Insight with Chris Van Vliet - Voros Twins: How To Go Viral on TikTok and The Importance of Writing Down Your Goals

Episode Date: September 20, 2021

Today's guests are The Voros Twins, Chris and Patrick Voros. They are professional wrestlers and TikTokers based in Vancouver, BC. They recently celebrated 1.3 million followers on TikTok which makes them the most followed active wrestlers on the account and the 4th most followed behind Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, Lana and Ryback. They talk to Chris Van Vliet about going viral with their DA VINKY video, their goals in wrestling, being invited to a WWE Tryout, the benefits of being identical twins, how they were able to grow their TikTok so quickly, the importance of physically writing out goals and much more! If you enjoyed this episode, could I ask you to please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcast/iTunes? It takes less than a minute and makes a huge difference in helping to spread the word about the show and also to convince some hard-to-get guests.  For more information about Chris and INSIGHT go to: https://chrisvanvliet.com Follow CVV on social media: Instagram: instagram.com/ChrisVanVliet Twitter: twitter.com/ChrisVanVliet Facebook: facebook.com/ChrisVanVliet YouTube: youtube.com/ChrisVanVliet 6DbWEyrZWNKnAnDxygxE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

All systems are good. Ladies and gentlemen, Chris Van Ralee! All right, welcome back to another audio adventure on Insight. I'm Chris Van Vley. Thank you so much for being with us on this episode. And for a lot of you on every single episode, if you haven't yet, make sure to hit subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you're listening to this right now.

If you're a TikTok user, you know exactly who the Voros twins are. They have absolutely blown up on there. And as we record this episode, they just hit 1.3 million followers, which makes them the most followed active wrestlers on all TikTok. Yeah, they're behind the Rock, Lana, and Ryback. But since the Rock, Lana, and Ryback are not actively wrestling, yeah, that means the Voros Twins are the most followed of any active wrestler. That's impressive.

You can find them on all social media, including TikTok. They're just at Voros Twins. V-O-R-O-S-Twins. Speaking of TikTok, I'm on there as well. I recently joined Chris. Vam-Vleet on there and then just at Chris Van Fleet on Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, all the other ones. Thank you to our fan of the week Mark out Matt, who says, I love this podcast.

This is by far the most positive. positive podcast I listen to and I always walk away with a fresh perspective. You're awesome, Chris. Well, you are awesome. Mark out, Matt. And thank you so much for leaving that review on Apple Podcasts. If you're listening on your iPhone right now, if you're listening on Apple Podcasts, please take a second to leave a review and I will read one out on every single episode as our fan of the week.

I know that the Voros Twins listen to the show. I was just thinking, have they left a review yet? Because if not, I think we've got to make that. happen. You know, I like to think that I have a lot of energy, but man, these guys blow me out of the water. Here we go. Please welcome Chris and Patrick, the Voros twins. Okay, how am I supposed to be able to tell the difference between you guys? Yo, we're the Voros twins. Sorry, we always have to say that whenever we start an interview. Yeah, all our YouTube videos start like that, so we got to get that out of And so people don't forget that you are, in fact, the Voros twins.

Wait, also so we don't forget. So we just got to figure that out. And I've got a 50-50 chance here of getting Chris and Patrick correct. So, uh, here we go. On my left, so my left. Is that me? Yes. That is Chris.

You got it. Oh my gosh. Isn't Chris such a cool name? It's the best name. It's the best. It's not like Patrick. We don't have, we don't have. You don't have.

You don't have. Named after a SpongeBob. character. We got him. We got them so good. We don't have middle names, so it's not just Chris, Moros, Patrick, Forres. We don't have like a van in our name like you, but.

How is the average person supposed to tell the difference between you guys? I think it's just like gambling. You just kind of like guess and stuff. But there's little things like Patrick would wear red. If I have red, that's Patrick. If there's blue somewhere, then that's Chris. Uh-huh. So I guess that's the main one.

But I think we're starting to do. But anybody who follows you guys on TikTok, you guys are dressed alike most of the time. Most of the times are like similar. Patrick's usually on this side of the screen for some reason. And Chris is there. It's just our better angles. I'm not sure. Well, congratulations on what you guys are accomplishing right now, both in wrestling,

but also in TikTok. And it's pretty crazy to think that you guys might be more famous as TikTokers than famous for your work in the ring. No, 100%. Like 1,000,000%, which is crazy. Like, okay, so now we're at, we just hit actually 1.3 million on TikTok, which is pretty cool. So just to drive right into it, we are the most active, followed wrestlers on TikTok ahead of us is the rock, but he doesn't wrestle. There's right back, but he sometimes takes other people's videos.

And he's cheating a little bit. Right back. And then Lana, and then I guess there's us. And you're right. The three that you just named ahead of you are not actively wrestling right now. We just wrestled. We just did a Mike Bailey seminar. Shout out to him.

Canadian wrestler, just like us. Yeah. Always good to talk to a fellow Canadian or fellow Canadians. So I appreciate this. You guys are based in Vancouver, right? Yeah. Oh, sorry, we didn't answer your question. What was the first question?

As far as I was getting recognized. No, there was a question before that. No, it doesn't. This isn't about answering questions. This isn't like a test, right? Yeah, we're not going to get scored at that. Wait, was it who painted the Mona Lisa? I think he asked that.

Yeah, who painted the Mona Lisa? Mona Lisa. Yeah. Yeah. Doving. Oh, there we go. That feels good. We still don't get tired of saying that.

That's the thing. You've worked it into your matches now, which is great. Yeah. It's in our entrance theme intro and everything. And you have a finisher named after this? Yeah. Da Vinci Code and everything. We're starting to, I don't know if you see our Instagram stories, but we always change words to like, if we're jogging, we say the joggy or when we're doing a friend flip, de flip here.

And it's now all our Instagram comments, Instagram.com slash moral strength. It's always like, does something, does something, do coffee and stuff like that. But it's a good meme. We're interested to see where it goes from because we thought it's going to die down in like three days, but it's almost been a year and it's still going strong. Okay, so let's back this up for people who maybe haven't seen it or don't have TikTok. You had this one video that absolutely blew up and went viral where you were answering these questions, basically. Oh, yeah. It's crazy.

It was in a compilation, and it was like, who painted the Mona Lisa Mona Lisa? Yeah, yeah. We didn't even think that one was the funniest one. I mean, actually, maybe we did. When we filmed it, we were laughing so much, too. But at the time, for those of you that didn't watch it, just search up. Da Vinci and then you'll just see our face with memes and everything. So you were saying Da Vinci, but you were incorrectly pronouncing it.

We were correctly. We were correct. You just said it wrong right now. Oh, sorry. Devinci is the correct way. Leonard da Vinci. Shout out to him. Shout out to him. Yeah, wherever he is. Where is he, by the way? What's he up to? I don't know. Yeah, good question. Yeah. Have you ever had? How many followers did you have when you made that video? And then how many did it start to ramp up to?

Okay, so we had 100K, so we had a good base on TikTok. Yeah, we had TikTok for six months posting every day. We jumped from 100K to 500K pretty quick, and then now we're at 1.3. But also, like, we had a bunch of videos go viral, so that pushed us. Like, I don't know if you ever saw our dumbbell videos. You guys play tag with dumbbells. Dunbell tag, dumbbell basketball, dumbbell volleyball, volleyball, soccer. I think a lot of people just recognize us

from now from the dumbbell videos, not even the demo. It's kind of like, and for you guys listening, if you didn't download TikTok, it's such a fun app. Like, like you just got on,

shout out your TikTok for us. Yes, thank you. I am on TikTok. So I joined two years ago and then didn't really post anything. But if you're on TikTok, I'm a Chris dot Van Vlead at Chris.

At Chris. VanVlead on there. And you're right. This is a black hole. When you get on TikTok, is a black hole of endless, amazing, videos. Like, their algorithm is so good. And it just knows exactly what you want. It just keeps showing

you more of it. Do you know, like, I like one grizzly bear video. Then all I see now is grizzly bear videos when I, uh, do you know who like Dixie Dameleio is and like Noah Beck and those TikTokers? Yeah. Like you know the community. You know the people. It's so funny. So I was having a conversation with my buddy the other day. And not to go off on too much of a tangent here, but we were like, Who were the most people follow or most followed people on Instagram, TikTok, and Twitter. We started looking, right? And it was so interesting that Twitter was very much a sign of the times. Like the top most followed people on Twitter are Justin Bieber and Lady Gaga, like people like that.

And then you go to TikTok and other than Will Smith being in the top 10, your average person doesn't know those names. And it speaks to like, this is this new upcoming, you know, generation of talent. And you guys are very much part of that. But it's like the top is like Addison Ray, Covey, Lame, Dixie D'Amillo. Dixie D'Amilio follows us. So that's our biggest flex. But it's funny because we never messaged her because I'm like, what if she unfollowes?

So we're kind of like playing it cool. Maybe we'll wish her happy birthday when it's her birthday or something. Yeah. But that's the biggest flex. With all the success you're having with TikTok, is wrestling still the main goal here? Yes, 100%. It was basically like, it was so hard like when wrestling, we didn't have it. I know some places in like America opened up sooner than here in British Columbia,

but there was like literally no wrestling here for like five months. It came back a little bit and total shutdown for eight months. So there was a big break with no wrestling. A lot of like wrestlers in the area just kind of stopped posting content and things like that disappeared. But we did the opposite. We just threw things at the wall and saw what stuck. Sticked? Sticked the plural of.

Sticky? Sticky. Sticky. You're able to make money from this now. Yeah, we have cameo and Patreon and stuff like that. So it's some Devinci t-shirts and stuff. And I see that you have some you have some integrations. You're doing some brand partnerships on TikTok as well.

Yeah, we did a McDonald's Canada, a couple McDonald's TikTok. So the Big Mac is so delicious. Wow. Oh, my goodness. We're not sponsored by them anywhere. You don't have to say that. Oh, no, actually, I mean, it's fine. Does the TikTok creator fund pay enough that you maybe wouldn't have to take indie wrestling appearances?

No, we're Canadian, so they don't even have a creator fund. We're Canada, which is incest. We don't make money for views on TikTok. Like, we could have been making so much money. How much money do you think with 1.3 million followers? How much money do you think you could be making monthly? I don't want to. It will make me sad if I look at it.

Are we talking 5,000, 10,000? I don't know. I think we'd be way more. Way more. I think. No. TikTok has given us so much that if it just didn't really...

I mean, there's nothing we could do. There's no creator. We didn't get paid for it. Kept us like just having fun with it and not putting too much stress on it. And it did give us cool opportunities. And we still are like stuff that we wouldn't have got without TikTok.

Like our wrestling year when we weren't wrestling was almost better. Then like, are your career still going? like this like every and now we're doing oh we actually have a piece of paper this is going to be a you're going to like this so you you always say vague goals get vague results right so for the people watching the youtube version we have a gold list we write every year voros twins 2021 goals it was so hard because there was no wrestling in january for us so hard to come up with goals where's it say oh it says interview by chris jericho or christ manned by chris manned at least and we wrote it down i like that my name is

somehow first on that list. Yeah, yeah. Is that insane, though? We wrote it down and now here we are. What else you got on there? Because you have a million TikTok followers. You crush that. Oh, that's on there.

100K on Instagram. We crushed that too. Gosh, verified on IG and TikTok. That was big. But then some of them like bench two plates. We couldn't do that. You could bench two plates. I can bench two plates.

I really do a plate 40. Maybe we'll like stack on each other and we'll like both push it. Yeah, if we lay on each other, maybe what else is here? If you wanted to bench two plates by December 31st, you could absolutely do that. That's true. That's true. We'll just keep eating. Thank you.

Thank you for the encouragement. But as fun as it is to like read off these and like congratulations on all the ones you've accomplished. I think that there's a real lesson to be learned here for people. Like so many people, number one, do make extremely vague goals. They'll say like, oh, I want to get more followers on TikTok. Well, you know, you get one more follower. Congratulations.

You've accomplished your terrible goal that you just set out. I think it's so important to not only set specific goals, but to actually write them down like you guys did. And we do this every day. It's crazy how powerful it is. Like we write the randomest goals down. Like even at one point getting a car was a goal off. But like that's long ago.

That seemed so far away. But also write it down in a spot where you could visually see it. I think that's super. Yeah, we put it on our door. So we'd always like first thing in the morning, see the goals list. Even subconsciously, the fact that we should have wrote down like,

I don't know. Go to space or something. That can be on next year's school list. I guess 2022. Not that. Not only is it important to write it down. I always say like put it out there. Like let people know that this is what you're headed towards.

Because if you're trying to just making this up, let's say your specific goal is to lose 20 pounds and you're posting about pizza and chicken wings and donuts, people can kind to be like, hey, wait, Chris, Patrick, what's going on here? I thought you wanted to lose the weight. I think it's important to put that out there. I 100% agree. I 100% agree as well as my twin. Do you guys answer all the questions at the exact same time always?

I think so pretty much. We're pretty like-minded. It's come to the point where the very time I'm by myself, someone says, how are you doing? I say we're doing good and I'm just by myself. So it's pretty bad. You guys are like, you're inseparable. Pretty much, especially now, like, we don't like have jobs or anything.

We're like always together. All the time. At the gym. Oh, no, your headphones. Oh, no, my headphones. How are you going to hear me? Come on. Okay. Geez.

All right, there we go. So if we take this way back, what's your first memory of wrestling that you had? First memory of wrestling was... I think our older brother maybe got us into it. Like, we'd watch with him a lot. But it was like 2003. So I remember seeing like Brock Lesnar shooting star.

Like that kind of the highlight reel at the beginning of Monday Night's rock because we didn't see Mania. I remember having the WrestleMania 17-20. TLC match on VCR tape. We'd like watch that over at the My Wave video. I remember the John Cena right now music video in like 05. That was a good music video. We had the John Cena like, oh, it's called CDia.

That was good. So when did you decide like, okay, this is something that I want to like try to do for a living? Okay. So we always like, so kind of like you, like we did the backyard wrestling. We did the backyard wrestling thing. Yeah. Which was cool. And our company was called NXW, which is one letter.

off from NXT. So we almost got it. Revolutionary. But then after high school, we didn't start at like 18 and stuff, but after high school, we didn't finish college just because it wasn't for us. And we didn't like being in debt. It was scary. It was spooky.

But then a wrestling school opened up right by our house. And perfectly, we always wanted to be wrestlers. So it just kind of started from there. And then so you started training and I guess you're automatically a tag team, right? Yeah. No, it was like not even a question. I think we've had like under 20 singles matches each. And even then like one of us is managing the other. Have you guys worked each other yet? We were in a fatal, a couple fatal four ways, fatal five ways. But we just teamed off throughout the whole match. I'm like, I'm not going to hit. It's like hitting, it's like hitting. It's not fair. That's part of the rules. Have there ever been a timely, obviously, it's tough being twins, right? And I say this because I'm an uncle to twins.

my nephews Colin and Clark are twins and I understand that when you grow up as twins for better or for worse you were looked at as a unit and I think that that's great sometimes but also you are not Patrick and you are not Chris you are always just the twins and in that has there ever been a time when you went all right you know what I don't want to look just like my brother

I want to dye my hair black or something lucky for us I think we're the exception I think we like looking, I don't know. Like we play Fortnite a lot and it would be like so boring if we play solos. Like duos is way funner. And just hanging out together, I think a lot of people are lonely or like bored. I never felt loneliness. Like how cool is that?

Well, you've got a built-in best friend right here. Like we're so lucky to be twins. We're super lucky. We hope that in the future people could clone themselves because it's pretty fun. Maybe we'll clone ourselves too. they'll be like four Vorovoros twins as well. And then we could be in like four on four tag team matches. That would be pretty sweet.

There's not a ton of twins in wrestling. So let's talk just in terms of siblings right now. Who are the best siblings in the history of wrestling? For us, I guess it has to be Hardee's, but a team we really look up to is the Uso's because they're fraternal twins. They never wrestle at each other as well. For the most part, yeah, they bick it a little bit,

but they've never broke paths of like, Everyone's like who's Sean Michaels, who's blah, blah, blah. And then obviously Youngbikes in AEW, we look up to them a lot. But there's like all twins, like Tate twins, the Regal twins. Even Devon Dudley's sons are twins. So there's quite a bit of twin tag teams we still want to wrestle at some point. And it's so hard wrestling twins. We wrestled the regal twins and beyond wrestling.

I feel so bad for our opponents because I couldn't tell them apart of the clues. I was like, why are you guys dressed the same or make it so difficult for us? And then we're like, oh, we do that as well. That is a good point. Like if you're backstage working out your match and you're like, all right, Chris is going to do this thing and then Patrick's going to do this, you're in the middle of the ring, you're dressed alike, you look alike, you have the same build. How do I know who's giving me the move? They don't.

A million times it's like, so when we do this thing, thing, I'm like, I don't know that. That's the other guy. It's pretty funny. Oh, no. When you were younger, did you ever use your twindom? That's not a word, but I'm going to make it a word. Did you ever use your twindom to trick people? Oh.

I don't think so. Did you ever send a different twin to a class? No, we definitely switched seats when it was like, what's that teacher? I think we use our idea. Like, sometimes we use each other's idea, which is like we know each other's bank pins, which is cool. We kind of share money. Is that a married couple? But I don't think we don't really, we don't really trick people because I think we'd be pretty,

embarrassed if they find out. Like maybe, you know, one of you shows up on a second date with a girl that you didn't really like the first date? Yeah, I mean, maybe we'll try it. Maybe we'll turn it into a TikTok or something. Oh, this is good. Yeah. Yeah.

Where do you get the idea for all these TikToks? Oh, it's tough. Like, if you guys don't know, we've been making daily content on TikTok since March 2020. I think one or two TikToks a day is the quota. Once in a while we repost, but like pretty much always just original content. Sometimes the ideas come like this, and then other days we're just like scrolling the fourth page. It's tough. But, uh, yeah, I don't know.

We just, we put no thought into it and a lot of thought into it at the same time. So like once we, the coming up with the idea is the hard part. Once we have the idea, filming it's like pretty easy. And our advice is to anyone posting content, don't be too hard on yourselves because. Whoa, so nice. Keep going. Oh, this is real. Okay. Don't be too hard on yourself. Like, just throw things at the wall. And you don't have to. The second time you said throw things up the wall.

We're throwing spaghetti at the wall, right? Yeah, just don't be a perfectionist. Oh, yeah, we don't eat spaghetti. It's so perfect. That's a good food to throw. I lost my trade of rice. Why don't wait? How can you not eat spaghetti?

Did you have breakfast today? Of course I did. What did you have? Oatmeal. Oh, nice. That's with protein powder. Yeah, it was with some almond milk, protein powder. Yeah.

What did you guys have? Oathemeal's a little dangerous for us because if we start eating oatmeal, it's an oatmeal phase. And we always call it bloatmeal because then we eat too much. But we like it. We had it yesterday as well. What we had today? Our breakfast is always Quest bar, egg whites, and a banana. And a banana.

Okay. Yeah. What a random question. Do you ask everybody where they had for breakfast? It's the most important meal of the day. We don't ask everyone, but like a lot of people, a lot of people. We always say, did you drink enough water? What did you work out today?

I have water right here. I drink so much water. I had an interesting relationship with carbs for a long time. And I think that we were kind of told for a long time that protein was what you needed and carbs, you know, carbs with the enemy. And I kind of realized that in order to actually gain any sort of mass, you needed carbs. And as soon as I started carving up, I was like, oh, wow. I'm like, now I'm putting on size.

Oh, same. I think we heard you talk about it on one of your intro. There was a time where we cut out carbs and we got way too skinny. and we're like, even orange juice, we're like, keep that away from it. But now we cut out carbs only get skinny, but you like, you just can't function. You waste away. No, but yeah, we eat carbs usually before and after the gym. And sometimes at night if we really need it.

But we just eat, just pick and choose when you eat it and stuff. Yeah. Let's talk about your WWB tryout. Yeah. When was that and how did it go? Okay, so it was Toronto. Oh, it went? Not Toronto.

What's the question? It was. In August, July, August, August 2019, it was in Toronto. Summer Slam, right? So first ever and the only Canadian WWE Triad, we were super fortunate to be a part of the 42 people involved. I think it went really well for us.

Yeah, I think we crushed it. Personally, we felt like we did great. We trained for it. Like, literally, we were in the ring for a month. Every day, we feel like we have good basics for all the roles and stuff. The only thing we wish is there was only one ring there. I wanted to do the full-on cardio, like the seven rings.

So it was a little bit less cardio, which we feel like we could have done really well. So definitely on our goals list, it says we want to do the Florida tryouts because we were, I think, over-prepared cardio-wise. We couldn't really showcase that. But leaving, they pretty said you, they said, you guys have a good look. Just keep wrestling. Work on your social media. And we feel like we've done both.

Yeah. And we're in better shape now. Like, we're in the best shape of our lives. Human-shaped. What do you mean? Some people think we're aliens, which is weird. I don't know. I could see it.

You know, it's so interesting. You guys don't really have a Canadian accent. Yeah. What kind of accent is this? It is a Hungarian slash Canadian accent, I guess. I guess genetically both of our parents are Hungarian. 100% generations. I'm sure the cavemen were speaking Hungarians when we were relaxed.

just, I thought we had coffee. We're so caffeinated. You speak Hungarian as well. Fluently, fluently. So you speak two languages, English and Hungarian? Yes.

And then Da Vinci. Oh, yeah, and all the Da Vinci talk as well. So, okay, do you think you have a Canadian accent at all? I think not at all. I don't know name drop, but when we did extra work,

we met Edge. And Edge was the only one that said, you guys have a Canadian accent. And then we're like, no, no, no, it's Hungarian. And he's like, no, no, no, it's Canadian. So Edge thinks we have a Canadian accent. He's the only one. What if you say the very specific Canadian words?

You know the ones I'm talking about? Like, a boot? That's it. You nailed it. I mean, maybe we'll start talking. Don't they say like, no, yeah, for sure or something? I'm not sure. Like American?

Oh, is that American? I don't know. Please and thank you and stuff. Yeah, please and thank you. That's the Canadian accent. Sorry, sorry. Sorry is a big Canadian. Do you have a Canadian accent? I think you do. I don't think I do anymore. I definitely did. In fact, I remember being in Vancouver. When I lived in Vancouver, I was hosting a show there called 969, which was on Razor, which ended up becoming MTV to Canada and also on City TV. And one of the producers is like, you have a really bad Canadian accent. And I'm like, I'm from Toronto. I talk like how everybody talks in Canada. And they said, yeah, you're Canadian accent. really bad. And I watch back the videos now and I hear it. Really? Yeah. Well, when I moved to the U.S. in 2010 and I decided when I moved to the U.S., I was going to like really work on it because I wasn't going to be able to get work in the U.S. if I sounded Canadian.

You guys have the great benefit of not sounding Canadian. We have this mix of a weird Canadian voice, weird Hungarian voice. But I think our voice is weird too because we're twins and we just talk to each other and like copy each other's voice. So I think there's some of that because we don't sound like when we go to Hungary and we speak Hungarian, they don't know sometimes what we're saying. In English, sometimes they're like, these guys are immigrants. So it's loose.

Do people think that you're tourists? Always. All the time. They sometimes, we don't really go to restaurants, but sometimes they show us like, this is the loony. And I'm like, no, I know what the looney is. That's so funny. Yeah, well, I mean, I guess you look very, like, Swedish. Probably Swedish.

That's probably what people think you are. Plus, when we like walk, we love life, by the way. So we're like, so when we look around and we're downtown Vancouver, we're like taking pictures, they always think we're tourists. Or like, we're just like, I don't know, yeah. Breathing air.

Breathing air is pretty cool. We stick out a lot. Like, we get recognized a ton for TikTok and just in general, always like we can't leave the house. We used to get recognized for wrestling because they see one of us, then they see the other in there. Oh, it's more. Now we literally can't leave the house without like people saying da Vinci.

Or like hiking their horn three times when they drive past the house. Like, Da Vinci and everything crazy. This is great. You know how many wrestlers wish that they had the mainstream recognition that you guys have? Like you're almost like reversing this. You've got the mainstream recognition. Now you want to just get on a bigger stage with wrestler. Exactly.

It's almost hard for us to like imagine these numbers that some of our TikToks got. Because when we were making our TikToks, we were just at home because everything was closed. But this summer when we were kind of like traveling, more wrestling in Calgary going out to like the beaches and stuff. But some of them like have like, I said beaches, by the way. We don't swear us. So beaches.

Beaches. Like the thing. But some of them having like two million likes or like a million likes that's not even used. That's a big number of people. So it's crazy to see, to think those are actually people watching. We always say like Sydney Crosby is pretty famous,

but he could maybe blend in a crowd a little bit. So more people might recognize us in a crowd. Just because there's a helmet all this. time. Even on the airport, he wears a helmet. It's so weird. What's your most viewed video on TikTok? It has to be. It's even too hard to count because it's Da Vinci for sure. But so much people would repost it and stuff. And there's like in some of them do insanely good on Instagram and lower on TikTok. But it has to be the dumbbell videos, the two towel challenge and obviously the Da Vinci video or the top three for that.

So how many views is number one? I would say easily. It's so hard to see of hundreds of millions, for sure. If you think of people that watched it, excluding like on top of ours. It's probably like 20-something million, but I know a couple big people got millions of views and from YouTube and everything else.

So it's a lot. So what was the feedback after the WWE trial? It was just like keep doing what you're doing and build your social media following? Oh, yeah, that's super nice. That's pretty much it. There's only so many spots, obviously. I know there's been some talks of us maybe doing like a tryout or something down the road,

but it's a little tough still with this COVID kind of setting. So we're just a lot of our wrestling opportunities, we're just waiting for that green light to really push forward with everything. Was anybody there that we might recognize? Anybody else that I try out that we might recognize? I know Bianca Corella is there. Stina Morella's daughter. Yeah, we heard the interview.

You interviewed her. That was cool. This is so great that you guys have listened to all these interviews. No, could we just list off some of our favorites? The J-lethal one was so good. Oh, he's the best. This has a very J-lethal feel, by the way. Really?

Thank you. We're just hanging out. Yeah, we're just hanging out drinking coffee, having a good time. The Enzo one was good, too. It was a longer one, but it was a, I like that one, too. I just saw him on the weekend. Love that guy. Oh, yeah.

Cool. Or no, other people from the Canadian trial, let me think. Uh, it's tough. Well, what you're saying is no one from that tryout has been signed yet. They said one guy to, um, NXT UK. Okay.

He was like, what's his name again? I forget his name. I don't want to say the wrong name, but I think he is, uh, Australian and he's Indian and Canadian and British. But I don't think they really used them too much on TV.

Uh, I think they did, yeah, they didn't really sign. I think they were just kind of like looking around to see, uh, how Canadian talent is. in the future. Do you think the Bella twins have been,

like are they the gold standard of twins in wrestling? I think they're the gold standard of even just like wrestlers in general. Like they still broke mainstream. They're living in the life. They have their neighbors to each other. How cool is that? But we know a lot of girls that just watch total divas and that got it. That's what we kind of want to do with our TikTok, like get casual people,

get them invested in us, get them invested in wrestling. Because I think the wrestling community could get a lot bigger. If more and more people branch off to this and this and this. And with AEW on TV now, it's especially cool to have more options and more people watching it and stuff like that. Yeah. Well, how about you guys work in an AEW dark match? Yeah, definitely on the goals list as well. Oh, so it's written down on the goals list? It's written down. It's written down. I love it. I love this. But I guess the biggest thing for you guys and for it was a big thing for me and for

anybody else. When you live in Canada, you've got to get over that hump of being able to work in the U.S. Yeah, no, it's definitely a challenge. Just to dedicate it all. Like, we do shows for like defy wrestling against Seattle and a bunch, but yeah, it's tricky for us Canadians, like the border and everything, but we make it work somehow. What is the ultimate wrestling goal for you guys? Good question. That's a good one. So basically, we like making vlogs and YouTube and so, like We sometimes like just watching aggressing interviews and connecting with the superstars. So definitely, what's the goal, though? The goal is, I guess, to make enough money to not definitely do it together, travel, wrestle.

And make people happy. Yeah, make them like laugh and joy. Forget about all this stuff. Just watch two twins being like silly or winning. Winning matches. Winning matches. I feel like you guys would be perfect on like the amazing race. Yeah, we love.

reality TV. We watched the challenge and Big Brother. So, never saw Amazing Race, but that would be cool. You should, you should submit for one of these shows. It'd be amazing, I think. Hold, let me write it on the goals list. Oh, it's getting added to the goals list. You have a Sharpie with you. Maybe you could, like, throw it wherever you are

and you could catch it out the window. Well, I just have a pen in my hand, but I'll throw it at you. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I caught it. Hey, there it is. Whoa. That's it. The earphones.

keep popping out. Okay, so that's the wrestling goal. What's the like goal in the mainstream then? Yeah, I guess we're kind of like new to this whole like influencer thing. So we're kind of like figuring that as it goes. It's basically all ends with the wrestling goal in mind. But like right now we're doing YouTube videos every Thursday on a YouTube channel. You're almost at 300K on your YouTube. I am. But the growth on my YouTube channel has been very, it's very plateaued. It's tough to grow on YouTube. with us. I think we're at like 27K. Because it's so competitive, but that's what TikTok and Instagram is for. But we're just like going through life. I don't know. Ideally, uh, ideally wrestling, content creation, meeting, uh, cool people. Yeah, we like doing blogs and stuff like that.

What if you started taking all of your TikToks and making them YouTube shorts? Oh, we have been. We've been doing that a little bit. Yeah, some of it's where some of them do really good like millions and some of them are low. I don't know. We're just figuring it out. Yeah, we're all figuring out. But if you had, like, you guys have figured something out here. What's the best advice you have for somebody who's trying to gain the following that you have? I think the main thing is just do it for fun. Like, as we're saying, we don't get paid for TikToks. And you have to get on TikTok now.

Because in like six months from now, it's getting already harder and harder, harder, harder to break through and post whatever. Like, there was times where we take forever editing YouTube videos just for like no one to watch. I think just keep posting. Because every day, you never know who sees something. and yeah because even you never know you never know who's watching your videos

even if it gets low views someone's gonna watch it like the internet's crazy like like Dixie Dimeleo follows us like who would have thought like actually a lot of TikTok I follow you guys yeah

with my 10,000 followers yeah and 300K almost subscribers yeah that's been good yeah but I think you could attest to this boy sounds so smart like we've been watching your YouTube videos like you been putting in the work for a long time on things and always growing your stuff. Like, you didn't

build your stuff in like a year. Like it takes time. Well, my YouTube channel is now 10 years old. I will say really started to, not unlike you guys, it really started to gain traction when I started doing the things that other people weren't willing to do, which for me meant driving. I drove six hours for that Tony Con interview. Or I paid for my own flight to fly to Austin Aries House to do an interview with him. Like, I've got dozens of examples like that. And I firmly believe that if you're willing to do the other things, do the things that people aren't willing to do,

then you're going to get the things that other people aren't willing to get. No, that is the same with us. Canadian wrestlers. Like, like, we paid our way. We did like Harley Race Camp, training with WXW in Germany. All these investments, like, we flew to Ring of Honor to do a tryout, which eventually we wrestled for them and stuff. So we have to do that as well.

And no one really knows this. we've been making YouTube content for like 15 years, just like grinding it out, doing vlogs, doing whatever, and you never know what. Like people say we got lucky with Divinke, but like it wasn't just an overnight thing.

Like we've been grinding it out forever. Yeah, it was just a matter of time that one of them was going to finally take off. And then we knew what to do after because we did all these videos. Like we know how to edit and we know how to do, or sorry, to edit it. Are you guys doing all of your own? to edity?

As a motion. That was one that told me off guard. I don't know. Editing takes a while, but it gives you a good feeling of like completion. So we love doing it ourselves. And every time we render a video, there's one mistake in it. Oh, you got to go re-render it. Always.

Sometimes it's my fault. Sometimes it's his own. But there's always something usually at the very end. So it's right. But I think there's another, there's a great lesson to be learned in that as well. I think there's too many content creators that just want to go, yeah, point the camera at me and I'll be entertaining. I think it's so important to shoot your own stuff, at least early on, edit your own stuff, write your own stuff. So then you know how every little bit of that process works. And maybe when

you get big enough and you don't have the time to do it, you hand it off to somebody who's the best at editing. I think early on, it's so important to figure out how to do all of that. That's a greatest lesson. Whoa, we're giving out lessons. You guys are giving out all kinds of lessons. Have you put out today's TikTok yet? No. And it's tough too because back to Fortnite, a new season came out. So we're like, should we play Fortnite? Should we make?

But we have a couple ideas. We have ideas. So you haven't even filmed it yet. No, I know. That's what's so amazing here. Okay. I would assume, because I don't know that much about it, I would assume that you have like five of them lined up ready to go.

No, maybe we should do that. Every day. Every day it's from that day. Sometimes we're like a day ahead, which is cool. But we're, if it takes. If you TikTok do is really well, we might like, don't put that much stress that we need a banger. But if we don't do a banger in like five days, we need a banger video.

How can we collaborate on one? It's tough because sometimes people meet us and they're like, let's film a TikTok. People think filming a TikTok is just like telling a joke. Just turn on the camera and be funny. But there's a formula to the app and stuff. It depends, like, what trends are going on. And if you can make that work with someone else. So it all depends where like the app is kind of going.

Because if you do an old trend, it's like everyone's, seen it before and it's going to get them early somehow yeah yeah there's more great advice from the boris twins this is amazing but have fun with apps see what other people are doing and don't should we start charging people and it's also like don't don't be afraid to like like we used to be so shy uploading our tics to instagram because we're like ticot could see it but instagram we're pretty shy to let those people see it but now we're at the point where we don't really care what we post We're just having fun with it now, but it definitely is hard to get your first few videos. And like for us, some of our videos are we get a lot of hate.

A lot of hate. Yeah, yeah. We get a lot of hate on our TikToks, a lot of positive. Who are these people messaging us? It doesn't bother us at all. Actually, I don't think it doesn't. It doesn't bother us, but I could see how it could bother other people too, which is. Yeah, yeah, when we were going through some family stuff, some of them were, I don't know.

Should we get into it? I don't know. Yeah. our dad passed away in March, which is crazy. Uh-huh. And we're still not fully done with. Yeah, that must be so difficult to deal with. And then like,

yeah, some people are saying like rude comments on death. And I'm like, that was like the only time hate comments. But it's as easy as like a block and a post. But yeah, that was a tough time in our life. Do you get hate comments?

Oh, yeah. Of course. But you're so likable. So are you guys. That's true. And you know this. But when people are saying mean things about you, it's just because they're upset with who they

are as a person. But I mean, I get it. We do look silly. And I like the silly ones when people make fun of us and her hair and stuff. Oh, like those are fine. Yeah, yeah. Like, we can do the joke. Those are fun. Like if someone says something about my appearance, I'm just like, oh, cool, that's great. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, I don't know. You just, you deal with the haters by going, that's, that's so unfortunate that you are not happy in your own life. That you need to say mean things about other people to make yourself feel good about yourself. But I could see how it does affect people like it doesn't affect us but i could see like the internet being mean to somebody affecting someone it's pretty serious i think people even in the wrestling community i've seen

we've seen like there's a lot of sometimes negativity of like this wrestler's character is portrayed like that but they're treating them like it's the actual first i don't know it's uh yeah yeah so with 1.3 million followers right now on ticot how long till 2 million do you think oh a good question we've been still going like this luckily we didn't plateau like we had to 1.2 in July late July I think that's a hundred thousand in two months I think it just depends how much work I think we'll be pretty close to it uh because it's not just going up with us doing nothing it's like us working hard at it is but if you got to do one with Jason DeRulo yeah that guy is the ultimate collaborator yeah yeah we just have to

get to California yeah come on down you can stay on my couch oh you're in California so yeah I live in LA whoa cool oh you're so There's room for two of you guys on there. Just a little bit with the COVID test there's to get into the country. It's still a lot confusing. Well, I'm actually flying back to Toronto. As we sit here right now, I'm flying back on Thursday. But you need a COVID test?

I did a COVID test this morning. Uh-huh. There needs to be a negative COVID test within 72 hours of entering the country. There's a lot. And it was expensive, right? Well, COVID tests here are free. What? I thought it was 200 American.

Oh, no. I'm not sure. I don't know where they, I mean, LA, they're free because they want to try to contain this. But in Canada, yeah, you still have to pay, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. In fact, when I flew, I was home a few weeks ago, months ago in Calgary. My sister lives in Calgary. And in order to fly back to the U.S., I had to get a COVID test. It was like $160. But it's possible. All this is to say, it's possible, you guys should be down here content with all the people who create content down here. No, that's true. There's a bunch of people,

you and a bunch of people on TikTok in L.A., so I, I guess you should go to VidCon. Yeah. It's in like three weeks. Oh, is this? Start packing. You're welcome to stay on my very comfortable guys. Likewise, if you need a place in Vancouver.

I'll be right. I'll be right up there. I love it. But you guys know that I end the interview with the same question every single time. So I don't know. Who painted the Mona Lisa? I'm just kidding. Yeah, exactly.

Who painted the Mona Lisa? Once again, Mona Lisa. Yeah. I don't know if you guys are going to answer this together or if you're going to answer it separately, but what do you think we're going to do? What are three things in your life for us, twins, that you guys are grateful for? Okay, I am grateful for water. Should I be serious? Again, we'll be serious.

You can do it either way. We are grateful that we are healthy. I think health is super important, super lucky that we aren't sick and stuff. Grateful for health. I guess grateful for our optimism because we're pretty. positive and I know some people get stressed out or anxiety. We're lucky that we don't really have like, we have a good support system

surround ourselves with positive people, which is cool. And we are grateful with how, come on, this is it, the moment of truth. Da Vinci. There we go. We actually are grateful for Da Vinci. We actually are, because we were like, as we were saying, there was no resting.

So people, it's a joke answer, but it's also the real answer. Yeah, I made her last year, of the pandemic, super fun, super cool, something we could focus on besides us. And as for us moving forward, like wrestling companies like NEDW and British Columbia, huge potential, they just did their first show.

So everyone keep their eyes on NEDW. We still have a wrestling vlogs. Every Thursday, we're trying to build up our YouTube. And you never know where the Voros twins will pop up next, which is cool. This has been great guys. Yeah, yeah. I think you are the, I think, I,

I had the Uso's on, so you're the second set of twins I've ever had on here. Well, number two, silver medal. Silver metal, good enough. Nice. That's right. The silver one looks cooler anyway. You think? No, I'm like, but I just say optimism.

Optimism, I love it. You guys are full of positivity. You're full of optimism. And most importantly, you're full of creativity, which is why you're in the position that you're in right now. This doesn't happen by accident. And anybody who's looking at 1.3 million followers on TikTok and going, I mean, oh, yeah, they had one video that popped off.

You know, they got lucky. No, that's not the case at all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is day after day after day of hard work, week after week, month after month, year after year. Yeah, yeah. No, we appreciate those words. We're just being ourselves,

and we know if we could impact people positively have them have a good day and stuff, then we're all for it. You guys are a must follow on all social media. It's just at Voros twins. Yeah, yeah, we kept it easy. No underscores, no anything. Just boros twins. No, no, even.

No, no, no, just boros twins. Keep it simple. V-O-R-O-S twins. Anything else, guys? I've just loved this. No, that's pretty much it, but I just want to say you're super cool. Thank you for this interview. This is the part where we hype you up, so.

Yeah. And that's pretty, is that it? Anything else? I think that's it. You have really shiny teeth, which is cool. Do you know when did the Cold War end? No. Summertime.

Oh, God. This is so good. Thank you guys. Thank you. Super fun. Can we get a yo? Sorry, we're asking for a lot. Yo!

Yo! There we go. You could be our third twin. You've nailed it. I look just like you guys. Yeah, pretty much. Mear image. Well, there we go.

The future is so bright for them, both in wrestling and beyond. Give them a follow on social media at Voros Twins. Check out their vlogs and their matches on their YouTube channel. which is also Voros Twins. And if you're not subscribed already, make sure to subscribe wherever you're listening to this right now and also on my YouTube channel. Big congrats again to the Voros Twins

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