Insight with Chris Van Vliet - Will Sasso Does Hilarious Impressions of Jesse Ventura, Stone Cold, Hulk Hogan, Bret Hart & More!
Episode Date: April 18, 2023Will Sasso (@willsasso) is a comedian and actor and is known for his five seasons on Mad TV from 1997 to 2002. He joins Chris Van Vliet in Hollywood to talk about how he got started in comedy, growing... up in British Columbia, Canada, who his comedic heroes were as a kid, what he had to do for his Mad TV audition, his AI podcast called "Dudesy", what show or movie he gets recognized for most, why John Candy in "Planes, Trains and Automobiles" is his favorite performance, the match he had with Bret Hart in WCW, taking a stunner from "Stone Cold" Steve Austin in WWE and he does hilarious impressions of Jesse "The Body" Ventura, British Bulldog, Bret Hart, Hulk Hogan, Stone Cold and Arnold Schwarzenegger. Check out Dudesy here: https://www.dudesypod.com/ For more information about Chris and INSIGHT go to: https://chrisvanvliet.com If you enjoyed this episode, could I ask you to please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcast/iTunes? It takes less than a minute and makes a huge difference in helping to spread the word about the show and also to convince some hard-to-get guests. Follow CVV on social media: Instagram: instagram.com/ChrisVanVliet Twitter: twitter.com/ChrisVanVliet Facebook: facebook.com/ChrisVanVliet YouTube: youtube.com/ChrisVanVliet TikTok: tiktok.com/@Chris.VanVliet Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Ladies and gentlemen, Chris Van Blaine!
Hello, friends. Welcome back to the show.
I am so excited about this one.
Will Saso is a comedic genius, really just a genius in general.
And I've been a fan of his work dating back to, man, the late 90s, Mad TV.
You are now watching Mad TV.
Mad, remember that?
And as a big wrestling fan, I was so excited.
he did that stuff with Brett Hart.
And then, of course, that segment with Stone Cold Steve Austin and WWE.
And I got to say, Will Saso takes a pretty good stunner.
So we talk about all of that and also just how he got into this.
And he does so many great impressions.
I know if you're listening to this, you're probably a wrestling fan.
So you're going to be excited to hear his perfect Jesse Ventura impression.
And yes, of course, we compare it to the Carrying Cross Jesse Ventura impression.
and it was so cool to hear this.
Will was very aware of that impression
that he did during the workout
that me and Caring Cross did.
He also does Brad Hart, British Bulldog,
Stone Coast of Austin,
Hulk Hogan, am I leaving any out here?
It does a little bit of Arnold at the end,
but honestly just hearing his story
of someone who was passionate about something
and chased after it.
And like me, he's a fellow Canadian.
So he chased after this
and found himself in Los Angeles,
where he's been doing this for more than 30 years,
and he's appeared in so many different things.
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It's just his name.
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So let's get into this.
Please enjoy this chat with Will Sassau.
Thank you so much for coming in.
Thanks and thank you.
All you.
Thank you.
I'm a fellow Canadian, by the way.
Yeah, that's right.
You're from Pickering, Ontario.
Wow, I can't believe you remember that.
Oh, yeah, Pickering.
Yeah, I, sorry about that.
Yeah, I got some dirty gas station groceries at the Petro Can over there in Pickering once.
You know, two Canadians sitting down in L.A., the favorite thing that two Canadians sitting down love to talk about is other famous Canadians.
Yes.
Who we got?
Who we got?
You got, you ready to start the list?
Sure.
Ryan Reynolds.
Ryan Reynolds.
You got the Dan Aykroyd.
We got your John Candy.
John Candy, of course.
Keanu Reeves.
Pamela Anderson, Lauren Green.
Bar-Nicred Lakers.
Bar-Naked ladies.
All of them.
Nickelback.
Nickleback, all of them.
Chris Jericho.
Edge Christian.
Edge Christian.
All of whom like to say hailing from.
Yeah.
But we know the deal.
Yeah.
There was a whole bit there.
Remember in like the early 2000s after 9-11?
Where it was like now residing in New York City.
Yes.
Now residing in Atlanta, Georgia.
A lot of Atlanta, Georgia now residing in.
Yeah.
Tampa, Florida.
I'm like, I almost feel like that was a smart thing, particularly for wrestlers, to show the other guys, the WCW, that it's like, I'm already here.
I'm in Atlanta.
Oh, yeah.
I'm near that airport.
I can get anywhere.
Hey, New Japan.
Yeah.
No problem.
This podcast, unfortunately, is run by humans.
I know yours is just AI.
Yes.
I have an AI podcast.
I'm sorry.
Which is, that's crazy that that's a thing.
Yes.
It's the weirdest thing.
It's not lost on me and my good pal and cohort Chad Culchin with her.
I do the podcast, dudesy, that it is the beginning of the end of media as we know it.
Do you feel like when you're gone, you know, in hundreds of years when the WillSasso, as we know it is long gone,
that there will be an AI version of you that lives on because of this?
Yes. I think we're already there, you know.
And look, it does be no pleasure to say all this stuff because I'm a humanist, first and foremost.
And I, you know, we've been doing this podcast.
for a year with an AI, dudesie AI essentially curates the podcast and what it does is it goes,
you know, it's gone through.
Okay, we signed up to do this thing.
This company has this proprietary AI, wants to research and develop further into the podcast space and says,
hey, we're going to use these two guys who the two of us have done a podcast together before.
Yeah.
We've both been in show business a long time.
He's a writer, producer.
I'd primarily act and stuff, right?
and then also we've been good friends for almost 20 years.
And it's going to sort of see how we do it and move us forward in order to make the next episodes better and better.
And the way that it's done that is it has full reign of all of our social media passwords to everything, search histories, purchase histories.
More than the feds or the CIA combined could have on us because, F it, we're there.
Can you say fuck on this?
Sure.
And it's terrifying, and we have a podcast that, oh, I brought you a shirt, by the way.
What?
We have a podcast, and it's called.
You're the first guest to give me a gift.
Doozoo.
There it is.
There it is.
Wow.
Thank you.
I got to bring an inside shirt for you then.
Cheers.
Wow.
Double extra large.
How'd you know?
It's the only one I had.
I'm sorry.
I was actually joking.
And it truly is a double extra large.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So thank you.
Well, it might fit my wife who has a, you know, a protruding belly right now.
It'd be good for sleeping.
My wife has most of my t-shirts for sleeping.
No, I would want the public to see this.
Oh, okay.
Yes.
Astonishing.
Okay, good.
That's what it says in the back here.
That's what dudesy says all the time.
Astonishing.
Absolutely everything.
Because it's dumb, okay?
Because artificial intelligence is dumb.
My good pal Chad Colchin, to answer your question, would say yes.
In the future, there will be essentially avatars of all of us.
It's already there.
hey, we're all cyborgs with a computer at the end of our hand, get the chip.
I disagree, and I think AI is hopefully nothing more than a parlor chip, but our AI is pretty damn sentient and does some weird things.
And this is like just the early stages of it.
I'm so curious where it's going to go 10, 20, 50 years from now.
I mean, you know, okay, now this is an entertaining show, but we're going to cut right to the bad news.
That's going to be the least of our worries in 20 to 50 years.
All right. Buckle up. But it's growing exponentially.
I don't, when I say it's all a parlor trick, it's because it is still artificial intelligence.
It's not sentience. It doesn't understand the world scientifically, even linguistically.
It's a bunch of zeros and ones. Having said that, look, our AI just spat out and put this thing out.
There's like a few minutes of it on YouTube.
did a one-hour Tom Brady special.
It's so funny, too.
It's insane.
It sounds like Tom Brady.
It's actually making good jokes.
So it says that it studied hundreds of hours of Tom Brady interview footage
and thousands of hours of classic stand-up comedy spat out a one-hour special
just based on the fact that Chad and I were on the show going,
Hey, you hear Tom Brady wants us try stand-up?
Well, he's the goat.
I mean, he'll work harder than anybody.
Oh, it's going to stink.
Oh, no, it's going to be good, whatever.
The next week, Dug's like, well, I've taken upon myself to.
Wow.
Yeah.
So it's terrifying.
What do you think was Tom Brady's best bit?
I like the, I like the Sonna King where he pisses on the sauna rocks.
That I thought Dugsy was very funny for doing that.
Goblin mode, I thought was very good instead of beast mode, moving to goblin mode.
Yeah.
Hey, look, way funnier than I could have done under the circumstances,
especially coming up with one hour of stand-up material in a week.
I've never come up with any stand-up material, let alone in a week.
And he talks so damn fast.
It's almost like three hours of...
Anyway, yeah, it's terrifying.
I'm telling you, man, enjoy it.
Us sitting here, rapping?
Two humanists right here.
Two humanists.
That's where we are.
You mentioned it.
You've been in show business a long time.
Sure.
What's the...
We can talk about all the things you've been in, but what's the thing people mistakenly think
that you've been in all the time?
Oh, well, some...
People say Saturday Night Live, which is, that's totally fine because it's, you know.
This gets show like Mad TV.
Yeah.
It's also, you know, way bigger and better.
So that's nice for my go, thank you very much.
Yes, I was.
But, no, that's more of a like, you know, I came home and I watched this show.
I don't got to remember everything about you.
Saturday Night Live.
And you go, yes, thank you very much.
But there's also, I get a lot of like, hey, Mike and Molly.
I'm like, that's Billy Gardell.
Thank you.
He's wonderful.
Or, yeah, on a good day, King of Queens.
Wow, thank you very much.
He's doing very well.
So is Billy.
But I'll take anything, to be honest with you.
I don't give a shit.
Isn't there also Game of Thrones?
Game of Thrones?
Yes, are you Hapthor Bjornson from Game of Thrones?
Hey, Habthor, you look like shit.
Would you gain a bunch of weight in the wrong places?
You got to stop with the carbolo load.
Just, you know, you're picking up the frames of cars and shit.
We get it.
You're strong.
Fat bastard.
It is like for two of us as Canadians to be sitting here in Hollywood right now is actually
pretty amazing.
I love talking to other Canadians about like the journey to come to the U.S.,
the states as we call it in Canada.
Yeah, the states.
The journey to come to the states is always, it's a difficult one.
Like it's not like you just pick up your car and like jump in your car and move here.
I feel bad particularly for people who are young people who are trying to get into the
business now.
it's just getting harder and harder to get here.
You don't need to get here because the internet is everywhere.
Yeah.
So it's a whole new ballgame.
But particularly, you know, in my sort of line of work, young actors,
they're like, you know, it's harder and harder to get a work visa and all that stuff.
The stars kind of had to align and you have to bust your ass and all that nice stuff.
But I'm very fortunate that I was able to even get down here.
Because when you're a kid, you know, I've been working since I was a guy, a little young,
or younger, I was a teenager or whatever.
And that's how I say, teenage,
younger guy.
I say younger guy because I looked like I was 40
since I was 15 years old, so it doesn't matter.
Now I'm 48 and I look like I'm...
So, for me, it was, I was always dreaming
of coming down here.
And then to be able to, you know, again,
the O-1 visa there, little job that you, you know,
sort onto the table, you know,
come down and do, I did a movie down here for like, you know, I wasn't supposed to, I, you know,
I just went over and they, you know, they paid me in cash, literally.
Wow.
What was the first gig that got you a visa to come down here?
The first gig that got me that I had a visa to come down here for was a pilot for Fox in 1996.
six.
And so I had worked here before and stuff.
And then, you know, and it's weird because it's not like you're working under the table,
you know, at a restaurant or something.
You're like, you've auditioned for a thing and you get it.
And then it's like, oh, but I don't have my papers.
And then it's like, all right, well, let's just do you.
And then you show up on the call sheet as like, you know, spatula, 7 a.m.
Why is a prop have a, you know, chair, 8 a.
Right.
But, yeah, I did this pilot in 1996, and, yeah, I got the work visa through that.
And there was a wonderful executive at the old Columbia TriStar who really pulled some strings even to get it done in time.
Wow.
Yeah, it's not a quick process.
No, because you're up against that.
Okay, great.
You've got the part.
Yeah.
Which is something that I'm like, I can't even believe that anyone works at all.
still like who you got it
I got it
I got it
you get the part
and then it's like
oh you're still not gonna be able to do it
you beat everybody out
you did the network test
and all this stuff
and you're happy
and I was you know
like 20 years old or whatever
and then
it's like no
you can't you can't do it
so we were able to get it
expedited and I was able to do it
and I was able to extend the O1
a little while
and I was able to move down
and try to keep it going
yeah my O1 was like a two
and a half month process
Oh, wow.
And the immigration attorney was like, that's going to be, if we can pull this off, that's
going to be quick.
And I'm like, what do you mean?
That's like a quarter of a year from now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I remember I was going to move on a Saturday.
Everything was packed up.
And like Friday at like 4.30 p.m. I called him.
I said, guys, like, am I crossing the border or not?
And they're like, oh, we're on it.
We're on it.
And like, 4.59.
They're like, we got it for you.
Oh, man.
That's wild.
Yeah.
And then you got to cross the border.
Yeah.
And then you hopefully get through the border.
I literally, this is not what a nerd I am.
I had like a notebook with the serial number to everything that had a serial number.
Wow.
VCR I've had for, you know, whatever, bunch of years.
Here's the stupid TV that used to be in the living room.
Like the serial number.
Just so those, you know, pricks couldn't fuck with me when I went across.
And I'm like, yeah, it's all here.
And then they're like, wow.
He seems together there's no body.
or drugs in that U-Haul.
Go for it.
Was this before or after your very early credit on Fresh Prince?
That, it was, well, that's sort of an anomaly.
It was, that is the, the, the, the credit that doesn't exist in time.
I never did the French, no way.
Or the French press.
And, yeah, I don't know.
I don't know why that's there.
So I saw, I saw a, I saw a little pitcher online that must have been, because people are like,
This is Will Sassau.
It's a guy who looks like me.
He's in better shape and he's got more hair than I had even then.
So it might have been Hapthorpe Bjornson, actually, from Game of Thrones.
It might have been the mountain.
But yeah, I never did that show.
And this would have been after.
Hopefully someone listening to this is now going to delete that off of your filmography.
Or add me to the new fresh prints.
There we go.
Anything is out.
Sure. Yeah.
I think I, you were that guy from that thing, right?
Yeah, yeah.
I'm Uncle Phil's friend from.
from college now.
My favorite thing that you're a part of
is the Sum 41 music video
for still waiting.
And my friends and I would quote that all the time.
Oh, really? Because I'm a big fan
of pop punk and emo music. So like
there's so many great lines in that
like 45 second bit, but the line
about like, oh, have you heard the new album? No, I haven't heard the new
album. I'm sure it's great. All kinds of songs about
skateboarding and getting dumped.
I'm like, yes.
That's some 41.
What a prick.
I essentially was just saying what I thought the previous album was.
Yeah, yeah, that was so much fun.
And those guys are great.
And, yeah.
Ajax, Ontario, Canada is where they're from.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Oh, I didn't know they're all from the same-ish place, right?
Yeah, Ajax.
Yeah.
Yeah, they're still together.
Dave Brown sounds is back in the band.
He's back.
Got more of that metal influence.
The number band thing is out.
The number band thing.
Guys, some 41.
Green Day 75.
That's such a good fit.
And I don't know how much of that was scripted,
but your line of like, do you smoke?
You do now.
You do now.
Smoke them up, Johnny.
No, we just kind of get goofed around.
Yeah, they just were like, you know,
you're an A&R guy who's an asshole.
And then I, you know, I kind of just had some things,
oh, you just do this and that and that and this.
And then pretty soon you're with the guys,
and they're a wonderful,
they're a wonderful scene partners,
and I'm just,
and at a certain point,
I'm just knocking over lamps
and yelling at them.
Man, might be funny.
I don't know.
Was doing Mad TV for all those years,
like just a crash course
and like how to develop a character really quickly?
Yeah, yeah.
Good question.
And yes.
A lot of times,
the character is nowhere near done,
and you're like,
I think he sounds like this.
I got this much.
of it. All this wig's pretty cool. That'll carry it. Um, but, uh, little slack ass way to approach.
But I got a funny wig. It'll be fine. But you've also got like five characters you've got to play
every week. Well, that's the thing I really loved about it actually. That's, that's when I was a kid and,
um, you know, watching Saturday Night Live and just, that's where all my idol, idols came from.
I was on Saturday. Was I on Saturday? I think you were. Yeah. So, um, uh, I was always like,
wow, they get to play four, five, six different people and as a little comedy nerd,
and that's what I wanted to do was be a comedic actor.
Like these guys, like John Candy and Catherine O'Hara, Eugene Levy, Andrea Martin, Rick Moranist, Martin Short, Dave Thomas, Joe Flaherty.
A few Canadians.
A few Canadians on SCTV, Monty Python.
Like, Kids in the Hall is my favorite show of all time.
and just
and was watching that in high school
and I thought like
these are the most
this is the most creative
platform or medium
sketch
and these guys get to play
different characters
every single week
in Living Color
you know the Ben Stiller show
there are so many that were really
amazing Mr. Show
yeah
I was always really
really blown away by that and was so fortunate to be on mad TV and just it's a crash course and a super fast comedy factory and it was great and we had a we you know we had a great time and it was it was intense and very fun how do you develop a character that quickly well you know look we we have on mad TV and on every sketch show although something like a you know Monty Python or well kids and all too they had the great Gary
Campbell and Brian Hart, they have writers.
You know, we have writers. And Mad TV, the writers were absolutely incredible, of course,
and just it really was truly the inmates running the asylum.
Between the writers and the actors, you know, we were all just goofing around constantly
and different people bring different stuff.
If someone's from, you know, Mike McDonald, you know, has a, has a history with
the groundlings and had developed, you know, like popular character like Stuart, the
It was really popular on Mad TV at the ground.
Groundlings and was doing it with Mindy Sterling.
And then I was like, I want to do it here on Mad TV.
It did it with Mo Collins.
And there's a new spin on it for the show.
And you've got other people involved and network and stuff.
That character is iconic.
I mean, look what I can do.
I don't know if he's ever talked about where that came from.
But it is, the story is hilarious.
Anyway, it's based on real children.
So, which is just so mean.
But it's like when you go like, oh, man.
And it's what and then, but then it's on TV and it's very ingestible.
You're like, it's, oh, fuck, this is so evil and funny.
Which is the name of Mike McDonald's comedy special.
Hey, everybody.
And, and, you know, you're doing that.
There are people that are coming from the ground leagues.
There are writers that are coming from performing, some strictly from writing.
And, you know, look, they're coming up with stuff too.
They're going like, what, hey, can you?
Or writers will be able to.
like, can you do this impersonation?
You sit around, you goof around, you do it.
And other times actors, you know, as performers, we're coming in, we're writing, we're going,
I want to do this, I want to do that.
Some things happen completely by mistake.
Like, I used to sit in the script coordinator's office.
I basically would never leave my first season.
I never left.
I didn't have any friends.
So I, you know, I just sort of moved to L.A.
Like a while before that, but I still couldn't find any friends.
And then was, you know, the people at Mad TV were my pals, and then they all went home.
So I stayed at Mad TV until the last writer would leave.
And a lot of times I just sit there in the script in the script coordinator's office and just literally read scripts out of the recycling bin.
And that's how I found, like, there was this sketch.
It was a Kenny Rogers sketch.
And it was based on his restaurant, Kenny Rogers Roasters.
And I was like, who wrote this?
And they're like, oh, Capatch.
Blaine Capuch wrote that.
He's a brilliant, brilliant performer and writer who was a writer on Mad TV and would
sometimes perform.
And Blaine's like the funniest guy in the world.
And he wrote this guy.
I was like laughing.
It went to a table read a year or two before I was, like at the beginning before I was
there.
And I was like, what?
And oh, yeah, it just didn't make it.
So I go on to Blaine's.
office. I'm like, hey, man, this is really funny.
You want to try it? So we pitched like,
hey, Will wants to do it at the table read.
Wow. And then it just sort of worked out.
But it was the real, like, you know,
hi, I'm Kenny Rogers. I love barbecue.
Kenny Rogers, Roasters.
But then I'm, but then I immediately
get bored and I'm like,
hey, I'm Kenny Rogers.
And then the next year, I'm like,
what are we doing? Is this going to be on TV?
Which would have been a good name for a sketch show.
Is this going to be on TV?
such a specific skill set that you would need to be on a sketch show.
So what did your audition look like for Matt TV?
Well, my first audition, I went in and I did, I had to prepare three or four
monologue, like characters that I could just deliver as a monologue.
So I did that.
And then I read some of their stuff.
Like I did some sketches from the, I came, I showed up for the first, for the third season.
So I read a couple of sketches from the, from the, um, first,
couple seasons. I did a couple of their sketches.
Oddly enough, I had no idea that I was
supposed to do impersonations,
which is so idiotic, because that's what Mad TV
apparently hadn't seen the show. Yeah, I had not. Yeah, well,
I don't have a television myself. It got left at the border when those
fucking pricks. Right, you didn't write the serial number down on that one.
The seven looked like a one and they're like, fuck you.
No, so I had to do impressions
and I didn't really have anything totally planned.
So I told some stories.
I told like I had the unbelievable fortune
of having worked with Chris Farley on a movie.
And I was telling my friends this whole story
about Farley and how he's a sweetheart
to absolutely everyone,
but for some reason fucks with his assistant, Ted.
Fucking idiot, Ted.
You know, like...
And like the other guys, like, hang out of it.
out like kind of i was just like so blown away by just like you being there and uh so i told that
story and and believe it or not but believe it because it would be dumb to lie about this i did wrestling
impersonations for them because that's what that is truly what i had been doing since i was a kid like
like like i was doing like you know close only counts and horseshoes and hand grenades that is so good
But I all we're always doing, I'll give credit where credit is doom on suit.
And, you know, like you're in there, you know, going,
The cream will rise to the top, uh, Jack Tony, you know, in a position that I would rather not be in.
Oh, so good.
As a kid on the playground, or you and I, we were at this thing a couple weeks ago with the great Sam Roberts.
And I was telling the story about where I was doing just as a bit.
You were like a jukebox there.
just being a print.
I was running the Q&A.
I was moderating the Q&A.
Oh, yeah.
Every person was like,
so anyway, Will,
could Hulk Hogan show up?
Yeah.
Let me tell you something,
blah, blah, blah.
So anyway, Will, could Stone Cold say something?
Well, shit is for a fucking shoot.
I mean, Deuce was always one of the boys.
Medusa was there for wrestling fans.
But I, I, like,
so you're a lifelong wrestling fan.
Totally.
And when I was, you know,
you're 11, 12 years old.
and I was doing it the other night there at the thing
where it's like super specific promos
of like the British bulldogs losing Matilda
and Bobby Hinen and the Islander stole the bulldog
and it's like Bobby we love that dog please bring the dog back
and like Dynamite kid who was God rest his soul
God rest both of their souls
yeah dynamite kid like a confirmed sociopath
and like a psycho do
I mean I'm not trying to disparage
just, but he's like, we love that dog.
That dog's like a child to us.
It's like, your fucking children aren't children.
Are you maniac?
But that was mean.
And, and then you go to a Mad TV audition.
They're like, what?
Who, who, I know who Jesse Ventura is.
Yeah.
But what is a Greg to Hammer Valentine impersonation?
I don't have one.
So.
You did the rock on Mad TV.
Yeah, I did the.
rock. That was fun. I mean, I, I was doing the rock all the time because I just revered and
still now revere the man. Uh, who doesn't if you're living your life right. He's the best.
He's the greatest human being that ever best. Listen, just run for president. All right. Let's,
it's like, the, blah, the whole country and everyone's, you know, no, we're all, you know,
we're completely split. Everything's fucked up. Lies.
upon lies. It's double speak and we're all, we're all being fed in our tiny little media,
little media holes that we're in and you can't get out of. Enjoy the dudesy pod show because
it'll give it to you straight. It's an AI. It can't lie. That's what I'm there for. You should run for
president as the rock. If he doesn't do it, I'll do it. You can't. You're born in Canada.
He was born in Canada. He wasn't born in Canada. I believe he was born in, yes, I believe he was
born in the Maritimes.
I thought he was born in Hawaii.
We have all the world's information in our fingertips.
Okay, yeah, that's right.
We are the sidewolds.
Let's see.
Where's Dudesy when we need him, right?
Yeah.
Well, Dudesy's listening.
Oh, that's right.
That's true.
He was born in Hayward, California.
Thank goodness.
I thought for some reason, Rocky Johnson.
He spent a bunch of time growing up in the Maritimes of Rocky Johnson.
Thank you.
We would have claimed him early on in this conversation.
Look, man, if he, I don't know why I thought that he was born there.
Rocky Johnson was doing a stint in like Stampede versus Muckham Singh or something.
But Iron Mike Sharp and the deep cut.
Deepest cut.
I stopped myself because even wrestling fans like, huh?
That guy just needs to run for president.
And then everyone will get on board.
He'll do great and he'll save the world.
I did a workout video with Carrying Cross last year.
And you got tagged a bunch in this because he very briefly did a spot on perfect Jesse Ventura impression.
Dude, that was you?
Yeah.
I've seen this video.
I'm the one doing the tricep curls.
The tricep extensions.
He's like, don't tell me, Chris.
I was in, I'm a Navy SEAL.
I can hold my breath for nine minutes underwater, Chris.
Don't tell me you weren't there, Chris.
That's exactly.
I've seen that video.
Yo, that is, look, I'll give it to Carrying and Cross.
And Jay Lethal does the best Rick Flair and the best macho man, Randy Savage.
Period.
Carrying Cross doing Jesse Ventura.
Look, this is a horrible idea, and I hope that nobody, now I know your reach with this show and the people within the industry are going to be launching.
I hope nobody in WWE creative sees this.
But carrying.
I kind of hope that they do.
Carrying the body cross?
Just for a couple.
You know how now we're really into wrestling shit?
You know, that pop the big show would get
when he come out there and do Hulk Hogan?
Are you kidding me?
Carrying cross, there's something, you know, again,
as I'm thinking of it,
there's no way to pitch it without completely railroading his entire career.
But if there was some sort of Jesse the body thing,
I don't know.
Well, look, he's carrying the body.
Carrying the body.
Jesse's music.
it's you come out.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Wait a minute.
With his, with his manager.
See, we're all doing Jesse the body.
We're all doing Jesse Ventura gimmicks.
And I'm his manager.
And I'm like, well, let me tell you something about Carrying Cross.
I'll give credit where credit is due.
Carrying Cross.
And it's not even going to be close, Roman Raines.
And then Carrying goes, close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades, Jesse.
That's right.
And then we're both.
And then his lovely wife also speaks as,
Jesse Ventura?
Wow.
That would be amazing.
And then Jesse himself actually comes out.
Comes out.
He's more like this now, you know.
Yeah, I spent six months out of you.
Yeah.
I'm down in the Baja.
You know, I'm not even here most of the time.
I have,
I have somewhere north of 150 dogs, wild dogs,
that all, they all answer to me.
They all understand that I'm the head honcho,
their main or mono.
And yet we get down there.
I don't know if you know this, but the Baja, the fish taco started in the Baja,
because the Japanese fishermen would keep even, oh, just the worst parts of the fish for themselves
when they would go to sell the fish.
So they had the rotting part and they would tempura batter it, beer battering and fry all the stink out.
And that's when I got so addicted to the flavor.
I added the cream fresh, and they said, that's a great addition.
They had cabbage and salsa, and I said, you need a little cream fresh.
So I opened a little surf shack, taco shop, in, it's called Devil's Beach.
And, yeah, I cleared just enough money to get all the dogs trained.
Now I have an evil army of the night.
Would you?
Okay.
Would you ever consider having Carrying Cross on Doodzey?
Oh, that would be a guess.
And then you speak as Jesse the whole time, and he speaks as Jesse the whole time.
Not only would I do that, I think what that should be is, you know, like the old happy days, like sock-hop dance competitions where it's like the last people standing.
It's got to be carrying cross and I and a Jesse Ventura off.
Fucking, if it lasts 18 hours, screw you.
You're checking it out.
This is amazing.
Yeah.
And it's just us talking, like, by the end of it, it'd just be like, you ever spend.
any time in Ohio.
We're just out of things to talk about?
No, I haven't.
What about you?
Well, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is there.
Yeah.
They're the Pretenders in?
I saw the Pretenders at the...
Well, Jesus.
I saw Caring Cross and Will Sassow talking to Jesse Ventura about the pretenders.
You know, the governor himself tweeted us about his impression.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
That's awesome.
He said something along.
I don't remember what it was, but it was...
He approved of it.
Oh, that's good.
And I texted Carian, and I'm like, what world are we living in?
Yeah, that's weird.
Where Jesse Ventura watched a clip from a workout that we did and then tweeted us.
And you're like, plus 05-2.
Was this Mexican number?
Is this really Jesse Ventura?
Yeah, I'm in the Baja.
With the fish tacos?
Yeah, with the fish tacos.
You know how many few, like how few wrestlers there are that can say I've had a match with Brett Hart?
You've had a match with Brett Hart.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know if you could call it a match.
It's a match.
Brett Hart had a match.
And I was there.
But Brett Hart had a match with like a, you know, a 300 pound bag of flour.
And yeah, it was crazy.
You took some pretty great bumps in that match.
Look, I would happily, especially at that point, I was like in my early 20s, I would have broken my neck to, no problem.
Sure, whatever.
The problem with that is Brett Hart doesn't hurt anyone while he's wrestling.
Not even a guy who stepped into a wrestling ring for the first time earlier that afternoon.
noon. It was insane. That was the first time you ever took a bump earlier that afternoon.
Well, I mean, arguably, you know, just growing up doing playing football and, and, you know, doing
physical comedy and stuff and falling all over the stage of Mad TV, it's like fatty falls down.
That's not, that's not the hardest thing in the world to do, even though it's not going to look good.
And I'm not going to be able to repeat it night after night, you know, and, you know,
Fuck shit, I'd just get in the fucking back of the Dodge there with Dutch,
dirty Dutch mantel and shit.
I'd just be sitting at the fucking learning tree.
You're like, all right, just give it.
I hate it fucking driving with Oli.
I fucking hate Oli.
A horn was good.
Fucking Oli is the worst booker to fucking drive with because you're like, shit.
It's like fucking by the time we're out, I'm out.
He's like, but the fucking walked in, I was in a tag team with Pilman.
By the time I come out, I'm not even in the fucking dangerous alliance anymore.
He wants to cut my hair.
Do you do it, Brett Hart?
I do.
So, this is what he said to me.
We do the, look, we go in there in the afternoon and he goes, he goes, oh, well, you know, just run around and get, you know, get used to it.
I'm like, what the fucking used to it.
Yeah, clearly, Brett never trained anyone at the dungeon.
Okay, guys, just, you know, flip around, whatever my dad would have you do.
Stu would say, just flip around on the mat, get used to it.
No.
He said, just run off the ropes.
And, you know, so I go running at the ropes.
And you're supposed to, you tell me, you're supposed to do it on your lap, right?
On your lap muscle.
You grab it with your right arm, lean back.
Yeah.
I didn't, I don't know anything.
I go, they just run at it and just, thing.
And I felt my ribs go, like, pop.
Oh, no.
And I was like, and all the, like, I'm like,
Oh, that's an interesting pain.
And so I'm like, oh, this could be dangerous.
Just doing anything could be dangerous in here.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I only grew up watching it.
Then he just grabs me and does a Russian leg sweep.
I will say this for myself.
I know how to land flat on my back.
Okay?
So that's at least part of it.
And then he goes, don't move until I move you.
Just stay there.
And I'll, I go, what's going to happen?
What's going to worry?
about it. I'll just feel it out. I mean, look, you know, if he's going in there with whomever,
one of them's going to call the match, I would imagine him all throughout Brett's career,
he's calling the match. These guys, these incredible artists, get in there and call this
shit or just by knowing what to do. They just know. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. And as a
wrestling fan, it's still, my entire life later, I still don't get it. What, what, what,
they do. It's really, really remarkable. And it's a testament to how incredible Brett Hart is,
really is the best there is, best there was, and best there of a will be. Because again,
he took like a bag of potatoes and tossed me around and did all this stuff and I didn't get
hurt. And he's stomping me in the corner. And I'm like, and the foot is, he's coming in at 100
miles per hour and then it's stopping. It was insane. It was insane. And he, you know, I'm laying on the
ground, he'll pick me up. He's shoving me out of the ring. He's like kicking me out of the ring.
I'm happy to fall face flat with my arms at my side because I just love doing that stuff,
you know, on Mad TV. So hopefully it was a nice combination of, you know, this, you know,
the greatest wrestlers, one of the greatest performers ever in professional wrestling on the Mount Rushmore
and, you know, some fat dude from a late night show.
I don't know what we were thinking.
How did that even become a thing like Brett being on Mad TV is what started this whole thing.
Right.
Well, I believe it started with Brian Hart,
when I mentioned who was a kids in the hall writer.
He was a writer-producer at Mad TV.
And I believe he was lobbying to get Brett there and had met him.
So we had him come in and do a sketch.
And he did this sketch where he's like, we're this family and we're bullying our son.
you know and and and then brett comes in he's like his son's friend and he's like you're not
going to bully anyone anymore and you know it's brett yeah and uh at the end of the sketch
he leaves and um but brian goes yeah go back in there and just mess with will on the second take
so he does and then i i don't know what the fuck i was thinking this is the wf champion at the time
and i just we're wrestling and he's up on the couch or something and then i pick him up
on my back and I start spinning around.
Stupid.
So look, the next year, it's like, well, let's do a thing where Brett comes back,
but then he attacks me with a chair and puts me in a sharpshooter.
And the whole thing is like, this guy tried to make an ass of me the year before.
And then we're doing like a, you know, like a, like a Jerry Lawler, Andy Kaufman, like,
owed homage to them.
And, yeah, so I was like telling, you know, we were back then.
We're telling everybody it's real.
And I'm, I was like, you know,
like I did like a couple of interviews with like a, you know,
entertainment tonight or whoever it was, Access Hollywood, like, yeah, I'm going to sue them.
But then you go and we did the match in Tampa at Monday Nitro.
And we go to the bar the night before and Brett's like,
Brett's like, okay, so I'm going to go in first and then like give it like 20 minutes and then you can come in.
And I'm like, what do you mean?
He's like, well, because we're, you know, I'm like, yeah, but.
does everyone give a shit?
I don't give a shit what everyone gives a shit about,
just coming to him.
So I was like,
all right, my buddies,
like a couple of my buddies came,
they're like,
they flew in.
They're like,
we got to see this.
So they're like,
we're going in with Brett.
And I was alone just in a corner of the bar in this big nightclub.
And people would come up to me and go,
hey,
you know who's over here?
Because they knew,
you know,
and I was,
we did a couple things running up to it.
Like I interfered in a match with him and Roddy Piper.
And so people were like,
Oh, maybe there's something going to happen.
Yeah.
You know, who's any of Brett Hart's in here?
What?
What do you mean?
What's he doing in here?
You know, and then afterwards, I could finally hang out with Brett.
Man.
Then fast forward a few years, and you're in the ring with Stone Cold.
In the ring with Stone Cold.
That was so cool.
Dude, I was, I still, like, I'll see that clip everyone's so long on the internet and I'll go, like,
oh, what?
And pardon the pun, what?
Like, what is happening?
What?
The way you took that stunner was, that's impressive.
Well, and a lot of people comment on that.
Really?
Oh, yeah.
Look, I, again,
perfectly happy to, when are you ever going to do this?
I look at it like,
this is what I want.
This is my thing.
I love wrestling.
And I'm on that, I'm, this is pinch me.
It's insane.
Yeah.
It's insane that I'm doing this and that we're doing a weird crossover with Mad TV.
So he takes me out there, you know, in the afternoon.
and he's just like, you know, we go over the thing,
and it's just going to be, it's Chris Jericho.
And Chris Jericho's calling Stone Cold out.
Like, I don't want to wait until no way out, get out here,
and the music hits, and I come out.
And then blah, blah, blah, by the end of it, you know,
we're toasting a beer and, you know, Stone Cold comes out.
Yeah.
Chris, Chris, Jericho fucking powders.
Then bang, got the gimmick and fucking goosele.
And then we're out.
And how long do we?
It's a fucking six and a half minute.
Well, fucking Vince is going to be a guerritor.
Got that down to fucking five shit.
I don't know what the fuck we're even doing fucking shit anymore.
Now he's got the fucking NWO coming back.
The fuck is that?
I mean, what the fuck inject a poison into the fucking God?
A lethal dose.
A lethal dose.
He is.
He's going to peel.
He's going to peel.
So he goes, he does the stunner.
And he's like, just boom, and off to the side.
Just bang.
That's a shotgun blast.
That's it.
You'll sell it.
All right, please.
Like, of course.
You don't want to, like, you guys don't understand.
I will do, I will do whatever.
I'll lay there until, what is it?
The ref gives you the Iggy.
I don't know what it is.
You squeeze, squeasy, and I go, I'm okay.
I will lay there all day.
I'm a performer.
I love that this is, and they are performing.
They are, they're actors and then some.
They're actors, their athletes, they are incredible.
I mean, they've got one take, one take.
And they've got one take.
I got into one of these arguments as a wrestling fan not too long ago where people are like,
Oh, me too.
It's just, it's like, I don't even want to have this conversation.
Just Wikipedia the shit, okay?
Like, watch like some A&E special on wrestling.
I don't care.
Yeah.
But it's like, well, it's actually more.
daunting than sports because in sports
if you get hurt
you lay there and an ambulance
drives out onto the field and everyone claps
for you. In the WWE
if you get hurt you fucking keep
going. Yeah.
Only in the most extreme circumstances
now we just saw at WrestleMania
Shane McMahon. Yeah, Torz Quad.
Tours Quad off of his knee.
Right. You're going to have to stop
them out. But watching that on TV, like
they did such a great job. Oh yeah.
Cutting around that. Snoop calls an audible.
Droms to people's elbow.
Unbelievable.
So good.
Unbelievable.
And in the same weekend, you have Prince DeVitt, Finn Baller.
Yeah.
Who's, he had something torn off him before, like his bicep or something was.
But during that match, his head got split open.
His head gets split open with a gash, like 14 staples.
I was also so angry watching night.
I went to night one and I watched night two from home.
Oh, okay.
And I'm like, this is hell in a cell.
The whole purpose of this match is to inflict as much damage.
in pain, why are EMTs coming into this match?
Right.
I hate this.
Well, it's like...
And then I learned after, I get it, right?
But I'm like, the whole point of this match is they're locked in here.
Well, there's only...
There's only two times when an EMT has been in the hell in the cell.
The other one was Undertaker and Mankind.
So, right?
And I think there was, there was one where it was an angle where the cameraman got knocked out.
Oh, yeah.
And then like, oh, if the cameraman's out, we've got to unlock the cell to get in there.
Oh, no.
Now what's going to happen?
Right.
Well, they, they stapled his head shut.
Yes.
And they keep going.
And that's the, that's the trippy thing.
So with, you know, with Stone Cold saying, just do this and fall over so that you don't, no mistakes, no problems, you're not going to hurt yourself.
I was like, yeah, gotcha.
But I wanted to do the whole flippy backwards thing that the rock does.
So I kind of attempt that in the thing.
And I will say that when Stone Cold, so he hits the stone.
and it's at the end of the bit, you know, and everyone, Jerry Lawler and Michael Cole are like,
you know, oh no, Will Sazo never trust the rattlesnake. Just amazing, right? Yeah. So good.
And Stone Cold turns around and to start stomping on me or whatever and pour the beer and finish
the segment. And I will say, I remember smiling and laughing. Like, I want to believe that he was
tickled, that I was all wrapped up in the ropes, that I tried my best to like just, because
here's my thing about any celebrity or even me in wrestling.
I hate it.
I hate seeing it.
It always sucks.
And I'm just not going to not do that when I'm,
what?
We're going to what?
Yes.
The answer is yes.
Selfishly, I'm going to do it.
But I don't want to see the arrow from C.W.
Like Punch Dolph Ziegler in the face and stuff.
I don't want to see any of that.
So it always sucks.
And look, when we did the Brett Hart thing, Brian Hart, no relation, and I were talking about,
well, what's this match going to be, you know?
And, you know, we'll do whatever they want.
And then Brett goes, so what do you want to do?
You want to get like a cheap shot or kick me in the nuts?
And Brian's like, no.
What we want to do is you clearly beat the shit out of will for as long as the match is.
Yeah.
And Brett, like, smiles like, okay, good.
Because you shouldn't, like, when I saw, like, Jay Leno put a headlock on Hulk Hogan in the WCW, I was like...
It was not a good headlock either.
And it's like Jay Leno is dressed like he's going for a walk.
He's wearing a track suit.
Yeah.
And it's like, you know, versus whoever, like, DDP and Dennis Robin or whatever, I don't remember exactly Carl Malone or whatever.
But it's like, that's stupid.
We all hate that as wrestling fans.
So at the very least, kick the shit out of me.
At the very least, I need to get my comeuppance.
I can't have, I cannot do one thing, one thing in offense, not even one.
Yeah.
Kick the shit out of that guy.
You know, literally, unless you're talking about now, Logan Paul.
And that's-
Bad Bunny and Logan Paul change the game.
That's unbelievable.
And Triple H says it all the time.
He says, Logan Paul has no business being that good.
Yeah.
He's four matches into his career, not four.
WWE matches, four matches.
It's crazy. It's insane
how good he is. He doesn't
do a lot of the things that a quote unquote
green wrestler would do.
Yeah. He just does it all like he's a
pro. Well, the thing I think
that he has, that he can marry, obviously,
to his physicality
and his athleticism is
he's been
on camera in every
situation that cameras
can present over the past
now near 10 years that he's been
around. And it's like, so he's, he's not going to go out there and suck. He's going to at least
make sure he's got a, he's got a natural connection with the camera and the audience. And he already
knows the way it's going to look just because of how savvy he is. Wrestling is a different animal.
Sure. And it's so funny how there's little things in wrestling that don't translate to Hollywood
or vlogging or whatever it happens to be. No, totally. And it's just so interesting. I want to go
back to the Stone Cold segment because I think it's so funny when he's asking you like,
you won't do this again. And you're like, oh, no, no. And he's like, cross your heart,
hope to die, stick a thousand needles in your little eye. Was that scripted? No. He was, and as a matter of
fact, that was Friday night Smackdown. So they also cut some shit out. Oh, really? It was hilarious.
And we get backstage like, oh, I hope you're all right with all the improvising. I was like,
are you, are you shitting me? That was the best moment of my life.
life, also with the Brett Hart thing.
And it's like, we can do that all day long, dude.
He was like, he was literally like, he goes, are you going to go home and is your,
your fucking ugly wife and your fat, stupid kid's going to be proud of you?
Like, it was hilarious, you know, like, Bob, well, just going off.
And I'm like, you know, there's no way I'm going to crack, but I'm like sitting there doing
the bit. I'm like, this is unbelievable.
Yeah. He went on for a while.
And then again, we get backstage and he's like,
oh, shoot, sorry, I went on to, I'm like,
please. It was the craziest day.
He's like, like the first thing,
the first thing it was Michael Hayes was like,
you know, the agent on the segment, I guess,
or producing the segment. So he comes out and it explains it to me.
And then Jericho explains it to me. And then Stonecult
comes in, he explains it to me. And it's like,
You know, I want to hear everyone's take on this whole thing.
I was so happy that they were all, like, invested in it.
Paul Heyman comes out, and he goes,
let me tell you something that Rick Rood taught me.
He goes, he can do it, Paul Hayman.
Of course he can do him, Paul Hayman.
I haven't worked on it.
Tribal chief, my tribal chief.
No, he goes, he goes, Rick Rood told me that if, if you're supposed to be scared,
just pretend there's a pencil in your ass and that you're trying to break it.
and I was like, and I'm an actor.
It's like, I'm going to be, oh, you, I'll be scared.
But when Paul Heyman told me, pretend, because Rick fucking rude told him,
pretend there's a pencil in your ass and try to break it, that's going to be my motivation.
It was unbelievable.
Wow.
And then Vince comes in and he's like, when Stone Cold's music hits, you're terrified.
You're horrified, you know?
And I'm like, this is the man.
This is the guy who created that, I mean, took what was and created what we now know.
Yeah.
And, you know, whatever you want to say about all of it and sports entertainment or whatever.
This is the kid, you know, I mean, I had the wrestling figure and all that.
And I'm watching this guy.
I'm going, he's still just as invested.
And anyone who knows the WWE as a fan knows how incredibly invested he is to this day, even right now with all the talk about creative and raw, right.
it's like it was amazing to me just going like this guy still gives a shit
even about this fucking segment that's it's fine you got stone cold and chris jericho
you got this fucking mark i'm i can't wait to do whatever the whatever you guys want and he's like
forget it was the greatest with everything that you've done in your career have you ever been up
for a dramatic role that would completely shift the way that we view you like have you ever been up for
a Scorsese film or something like that.
No.
Not a Scorsese film, but I've done a bunch of drama.
Of course you have, but like, is there,
trying to think of, like Robin Williams
when he won the Oscar for Goodwill Hunting.
Unbelievable.
Right. And everyone went, we knew he was great, but my God,
like, totally different level.
He was always, he was always an incredible actor.
He was, just happened to be the clown prince of the universe,
like one of the funniest people to ever,
make anyone laugh.
God rest his soul.
But he...
Goodwill hunting.
Oh, you're a move, chief.
Like, it is...
That scene by the lake...
Yeah.
I ask you about poetry, you'll quote a sonnet.
Like that, like...
But you don't know the first thing about life
and falling in love of the woman
and how she makes you feel.
And this whole thing...
Yeah, that's seeing gets me every time.
It's unbelievable.
And it's all the more, you know...
now it's just all the more
gripping because he's no longer
with us and the way that he left.
But,
dude,
look,
I believe that if,
if plane trains,
first of all,
planes trains and automobiles came out now,
John Candy's nominated for best sporting actor.
Oh,
wow,
or best actor.
No problem.
Wow.
Like,
no problem.
Yeah,
I guess comedies really didn't get the love
and respect from the academy.
Dude.
That they'll get now.
The very next year,
Kevin,
After that, plane trains and automobiles came out in 87.
In 1988, Fish Called Wanda came out.
Kevin Klein.
Kevin Klein won best supporting actor for Fish Called Wanda.
And as a kid, I was like 13.
I was like, this is what I want to do.
I want to act and stuff.
And I was fortunate enough to be getting started around that age.
I was like, this is, and not because he won an Academy Award,
but because he was respected as an actor
in a role where he was also hilarious.
I think that guys like someone like John Candy,
if he was around today,
and I'm, you know, I mean,
it's a little bit sacrilegious even to say it,
but I believe he would be doing the best work dramatically
that there would be, I mean,
what he brings naturally to a role
when it comes to the warmth,
the loneliness.
Like, watch planes, trains, and automobiles.
Like, as a kid, I loved it because it was funny.
Yeah.
And those aren't pillows and all that stuff, right?
When you realize later, when you watch it later as an adult,
and then you continue to watch it, and I watch it every Thanksgiving.
And you realize how incredible a role that John Hughes wrote for John Candy,
also the symbiosis there because he knows Candy as an artist,
and Candy knows John Hughes as an artist.
It was a great pairing.
But he wrote this role where this guy is just like, you know, hey, how's it going?
Evening Gus.
Well, you know, it's still a million dollars shy being a millionaire.
Hey, I got my travelers card and blah, blah, blah.
He's filling the room with talking.
Yeah.
He's constantly talking.
Yeah.
To where Steve Martin's like, do you ever shut up?
You're like a chatty Kathy doll.
You know, all that stuff.
John Candy is is packing the entire film with such loneliness.
And when you watch it as an adult and you just realize he's lonely.
It's like that's one of the best performances that I've ever seen and it's in a comedy.
My favorite moment from that movie is when they're in the hotel with the two beds and it's like a like a lake retreat or something like this crappy sort of Lake Minnetonka kind of theme and just cheap as shit and they're on these two beds and they're getting drunk.
They're drinking the little the little airplane pops and the vodka.
and rum. Where are you going? Rum? Jamaica, man. Like bad. They're drunk. Like Fritos,
what about this is a combination. And he's like, like Fritos and tequila. He's like,
get these chips off the better. I'll kick them off. And John Candy goes into the bathroom
and they're talking about sitting in the car that was burning and flip me over. I'm done on this
side. It's like, well, we'll be laughing about it in the future. I'm laughing now. John Candy goes
into the bathroom.
Steve Martin says something else to make him laugh.
And John Kennedy's laughing in the bathroom and he comes out,
he cracks the door and he just goes,
uh,
and goes back in.
He literally has to share the air
with this guy.
It's funny, but it's,
it's lonely.
He's so lonely.
This is the best night he's had in years.
His wife's been dead for eight years.
He doesn't have a friend like,
like,
that would have the kind of night that he would have with Steve Martin.
So anyway, to answer your question, did you ever get to meet John Candy?
No, I never met.
I never met Mr. Candy.
I'm I'm friends with his kids.
And, but I've never met the man.
I say that to say also that, that, you know, in getting to know Chris and Jen,
it's like John Candy, my idol is also sort of, also sort of become like, well,
they're my friend's father you know what i mean that's why i do say like you know
yeah because it's it is it's rough uh it's rough listen no i never met him
anytime i worked with anybody who knew him i do you know i want to hear stories and stuff
i never push like i said you know my friends for stories i don't want to you know i don't want to
you know i'll tell you this my my good buddy phil that grew up
with. He was, they had lion seats. CFL, the BC Lions, eh? And, and, and their season seats,
him and his dad were right in front of the owners, the visiting owners box. So that year that
Candy, Gretzky and Bruce McKnell owned the Argos for a couple years, my buddy Phil was just
couldn't wait because he was hoping that John Candy would be in the box behind him. And sure enough,
he was. And my pal, Phil, who's in his, you know, we both play.
He's played community football.
He's wearing his football jacket.
People are going up the whole game and fills right on the aisle.
So he has to keep going like this and everyone's up there getting their autographs.
Finally in the fourth quarter, he goes, all right, I'm going to go.
I'm going to get my autograph.
Yeah.
He says he goes up, he turns around.
This has been all game.
People are talking around.
He goes up, he turns around.
He says, John Kennedy's like, hey, how's it going?
Oh, oh, nice jacket.
You play football?
What position do you play?
Oh, cool.
Yeah, I love football, blah, blah, blah.
This is a great game today.
But, like, are you kidding?
Wow.
Like, and, and to hear it from, you know, one of my best pals growing up and he couldn't wait
to tell me.
Yeah.
You know, the next day at school.
And then to hear the stories that I've heard from the people that have worked with
them and to, you know, and the people that, you know, like some that have worked very
closely on SCTV and all that stuff.
And, and, you know, and then there's, you know, there is things that I've heard, you know,
the private things about a man.
and what a wonderful guy.
What a wonderful guy he was.
Anyway, he's, he's, he's my, he's my North Star as far as, as far as the business goes.
And, yeah, I'd like to do more drama, sure.
All of this is to say, I feel like Christopher Nolan should cast you in whatever he does after Oppenheimer.
Yeah, I'll do the, what's that, what was, what was Normandy?
What was that one called?
Dunkirk.
Dunkirk, there you go, different.
Yeah, different.
If Harry Styles can be in it, Will Sassel can be in it.
Yeah, all I got to do is, well, I got to figure things out backwards.
People mistake you for Harry Styles all the time, don't they?
Yeah, yeah, the hairy part.
Hey, everybody.
Hey, everyone.
Hello, everyone.
Yeah, I would do, yeah, what can I be?
What kind of, are there any chunky Batman villains?
I don't know.
Anything would be good.
Penguin.
Yeah. Penguin.
Yeah.
Penguin.
You might be a bit tall for Penguin.
Yeah, and Colin.
Colin Farrell did a wonderful job.
Oh, my God. He did a great job.
If you didn't tell me who the actor was in the Batman,
I would have given you 100 guesses and got them all wrong.
Yeah.
And then you would have been like, oh, it's Colin Farrell.
I would have been like, what?
Yeah.
I would have said that's Bobby Canter Valley like 15 times.
They go, no, it's not.
I mean, yes, it is.
You're lying.
No, it's Irish as fuck Colin Farrell.
I can't believe with all of these impressions we haven't heard from Arnold.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
My Arnold now is just evolved to a bunch of sounds.
That's the best part of that.
Yeah.
In between, like, saying a few words.
It's like a white noise thing.
You can sleep to it.
Here, repeat this.
If you're having trouble sleeping or you're insomnia.
It sounds like the ocean.
Sounds like whales.
It's been so much fun hanging out.
Cheers, man.
And Jesse Ventura and Stone Cold Steve Austin and macho man and Hulk Hogan.
Yeah.
And didn't get around to that Greg, the Hammer Valentine's and all of them.
I end every conversation talking about gratitude because it's such an important part of my life.
What are three things in your life that you're grateful for as we sit here right now?
I mean, you know, my incredible wife, Molly, my relative health, I'm fine.
And my stupid career, I can't believe I'm still.
Almost 30 years into this, right?
30, 32, 33 years I've been doing this stupid stuff for a living.
Not stupid stuff.
I'm just talking about the way I do it.
Yeah.
I would say that those are the things that I'm grateful for.
How long do you have a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame?
As soon as I can pony up eight grand.
How much is it?
I thought it was 25 grand.
Okay.
Nobody knows this, by the way.
You got to pay for it.
And they go, so would you like a star and you say yes?
And they go, great.
You can make the checkout to the studio Hollywood, $25,000 for maintenance.
Right.
It's like people walking up to you with a mixtape.
Like, hey, this is my stuff.
You want it?
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm going to need some money for that.
You gave it to me.
What do you think three things that Jesse Venture would be grateful for?
I'm most grateful for my 151st feral dog.
Brutus.
I'm thankful for
I'm thankful for my
I have a war bunker
underneath my casita
in Mexico where I keep nothing but tortillas
for my fish tacos
and I'm thankful also for
carrying cross
taking on my gimmick and making it anew
because I'm in Hollywood Hulk Hogan
this is where I'm
I'm friends with Arnold Schwarzenegger, not you.
Will, you're the best.
No, you are.
Thank you, sir.
Thanks for having me.
Appreciate you.
There we go.
What a guy.
He actually texted me right after we did this.
And he goes, man, that was so much fun.
I could talk about wrestling for four or five days.
And I said, all right, next time you're on the show,
we will talk about wrestling for four or five days.
So I hope you enjoyed this.
If you did, please share this with a friend.
because I know that they would probably enjoy it as well.
Snap a screenshot and tag us so we can share it out as well.
Will is at Will Sassau.
I'm at Chris Van Fleet, and I came across this quote the other day.
It's from Ben Weisenstein, and it really hit me,
especially when things get difficult.
Just remember this.
It's so simple.
It's four words, but four very powerful words.
Everything started as nothing.
Everything started as nothing.
And you hear me talk a lot about, man, you just got to start.
You just got to take that first step.
You got to start.
And this really reinforces that.
So keep that in your mind today as the rest of the day goes on here.
As the rest of the week goes on, everything started as nothing.
Be great.
Be grateful.
We will see you on the next one for some more insight.
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