Insight with Chris Van Vliet - Will Sasso Does Impressions Of Jesse Ventura, Scott Hall, Macho Man, Triple H, Ric Flair & MORE!

Episode Date: February 25, 2025

https://cvvtix.com - Tickets are on sale now for INSIGHT LIVE in Toronto & Las Vegas with VIP Meet & Greet! Will Sasso (@willsasso) is an actor and comedian. He sits down with Chris Van Vliet at West... Coast Creative Studio in Hollywood, CA to discuss performing his Jesse Ventura impression in front of the WWE Hall of Famer, how he perfects his impressions, his thoughts on celebrities in wrestling including IShowSpeed and Logan Paul, at the Raw on Netflix premiere, wrestling Bret Hart in WCW and he does impressions of Andre The Giant, Triple H, British Bulldog, Ric Flair and more! Quote I'm thinking about: "Doubt kills more dreams than failure ever will." – Suzy Kassem Please support our sponsors! PURE PLANK: The future of core fitness! Use the code CVV to save 10% on Pure Plank designed by Adam Copeland & Christian: https://gopureplank.com/?ref=tibcloux TIMELINE: Go to https://timeline.com/insight to get 10% off your order of Mitopure! VUORI: Get 20% off your first purchase! Get yourself some of the most comfortable and versatile clothing on the planet at https://vuori.com/cvv ROCKET MONEY: Join Rocket Money today and experience financial freedom: https://rocketmoney.com/cvv HUEL: Get 15% off plus a FREE Gift for NEW customers with the code INSIGHT at https://huel.com ZOCDOC: Instantly book a top-rated doctor today at https://zocdoc.com/insight BONCHARGE: Use the code CVV to save 15% off your infrared sauna blanket at https://boncharge.com/cvv BLUECHEW: Get your first month of BlueChew for FREE at https://bluechew.com RHONE: Rhone’s premium performance clothing is made to move you. Use code CVV to save 20% at https://www.rhone.com/CVV MANSCAPED: Get 20% off plus free shipping when you use the code CHRISVAN at https://manscaped.com PLUNGE: Get $150 off your Plunge with the coupon code CVV150 at https://plunge.com For more information about Chris and INSIGHT go to: https://podcast.chrisvanvliet.com If you have ever enjoyed any of these episodes, could I ask you to please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcast or Spotify? It takes less than a minute and makes a huge difference in helping to spread the word about the show and also to convince some hard-to-get guests.  Follow CVV on social media:  Instagram: instagram.com/ChrisVanVliet Twitter: twitter.com/ChrisVanVliet Facebook: facebook.com/ChrisVanVliet YouTube: youtube.com/ChrisVanVliet TikTok: tiktok.com/@Chris.VanVliet Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ladies and gentlemen, Chris Van Fleet. All right, here we go. Welcome back to another one here on Inside. I'm CVV. Chris Van Fleet, thanks for joining us in this one. And thank you for making Insight the number one wrestling podcast on planet Earth. If you haven't done so already, hit a 450 splash on that follow button on Apple or Spotify or wherever you're listening right now. Don't be like all the jabrones who just listen to the show,
Starting point is 00:00:48 but don't have the common courtesy that click the follow button. It's just a button, people. It's something like 70% of the people who are listening right now. Haven't hit that follow button yet. I'm hoping, I'm assuming it's not you. We just announced the special guest for our next Insight Live show. It's this Friday in Toronto. Natty will be joining me live on stage.
Starting point is 00:01:13 I can't. wait to chat with her. And we've got the Hurt Syndicate on Sunday. Tickets for both of those are still available with a limited number of VIP tickets still left. And that includes an exclusive Ask CVV before the show and a meet and greet after the show. Grab those tickets at CVVTix.com. That's CVVTiX.com. Man, Will Saso is just the best. It's just the best. I would have him on every single week if he weren't so busy being a successful actor, you know, and doing all the stuff that he does. Go check him out in Georgie and Mandy's first marriage on CBS and Paramount Plus, by the way. He's also hilarious in Loudermilk, which is available right now on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Well, let's be honest. He's hilarious in everything. And I know that people know him for his Jesse Ventura impression. Us wrestling fans know all about his Jesse Venture impression, but he also absolutely nails his Jake the Snake Robber. He nails Scott Hall, Rick Flair. He also does a rare impression of British Bulldog. Like, who does a British Bulldog, right? Will Saso does a British Bulldog. That's who.
Starting point is 00:02:29 And I'm sure you already know this, but he is a massive wrestling fan. So he gives us his thoughts on what the matches at WrestleMania might look like. He also talks about the match that he had with Brett Hart in WCW. Yeah, Will Sassow. The guy from Mad TV wrestled Brett Hart in an actual match on Nitro. Incredible. Snap a screenshot. Let us know you're with us on this one and tag us on social media.
Starting point is 00:02:56 He's at Will Saso on Instagram. I'm at Chris Van Fleet. And are you ready? Ladies and gentlemen, the one and only. Mr. Will Sassau. I just got to say thank you for answering my FaceTime. Of course. But that was so, that day was so ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:03:20 I bet. I'm with Jesse Ventura. Carrying Cross is there. He's doing Jesse Ventura for Jesse Ventura. Hey, should I face time Will Saso? He does the best Jesse Ventura. And he's like, who's that? I don't know who that is.
Starting point is 00:03:34 You'll have to educate me on who that is. How does he not know that you're doing these impressions of him? Because he lives, because I live in the Baja six months out of the year. And you know that. Chris, I don't have TV. Why would I watch American TV there? You know, I can't, I don't, we have satellite. I have solar.
Starting point is 00:03:53 I'm four miles from pavement out there. And I can't watch American news, but I tell you what I can do. I can put my hand into a whale shark's mouth in a lagoon. I can, they love having their gum scratched. And you look into their eyes and they're intelligent. That's why I don't know who will say so is, or whatever you, sasshole or whatever, the name only a proctologist could love. Would you stop?
Starting point is 00:04:23 I don't mean, Gene. He goes, I don't have a cell phone. I said, well, how are we supposed to reach you? Yeah, you're not. Yeah. Awesome. Yeah. You're not supposed to reach me.
Starting point is 00:04:35 I'll be down in the Baja riding my electric bike. You know, I charge my electric bike, and then I ride out, and I get mangoes. And I bring them back to the house. Of course, I always see large birds and I think they're drones. I'm afraid of drones. Because if you say the wrong thing about the government and then you go picking mangoes, you'll see an American drone.
Starting point is 00:05:01 You can tell they're huge. And I'm like, that's not, you know, that's not a bird. That's not a tropical bird of any kind. That's not even a raven or a crow. That's a big, that's a drone coming to keep. me. So no, I don't watch the American news. Oh, shit. Oh, my gosh. Sorry. Saso came on to just pull out a bunch of hack. Can you do that for five hours? You got it. Yes. It's the Jesse Ventura. You know what? The thing to do would be to do the Jesse Ventura podcast because he's not here for six
Starting point is 00:05:36 months. That's true. Find out when he's not here. Yeah. And just put up a, you know, hi, I'm Jesse Ventura. Welcome to the Jesse Ventura podcast. I finally have. have a podcast. Audio only. Of course. Carrying Cross and I will take turns. Who's doing it? I'm like, I'm fucking busy. Carian's like, yeah, I got this week. Okay. Yeah, I was in, uh, just to fucking, we're here. I'm in, I'm back home in Minneapolis. No, I'm not. Anyway. It's so funny how that all came together because like, I was talking with his son about, he's like, Jesse is interested in doing your podcast. I was like, I can't believe it. It was actually the day that you were on my show last year.
Starting point is 00:06:19 So last March, I left there. We left the studio. And I got a DM from Jesse, like the official Gov J. Ventura. And I'm like, what? And he was his son. And he's like, you know, Jesse's interested in being on your show. Could we set up at the time? I'm like, what are the odds that I just heard Jesse Ventura's voice in the studio coming from your mouth?
Starting point is 00:06:39 Yeah. And now I'm communicating with a son about setting up a real interview. That's crazy. But the actual Jesse Ventura. He's like, Mondays are pretty good for him. Just like, pick a Monday. And I'm like, oh, like, well, he's like, pick it, you know, in a few months. So we picked on random Monday in the summer.
Starting point is 00:06:53 It just so happened that Raw was in Minneapolis that same night. That's weird. We're living in a computer simulation. We are at 1,000 percent. We are. But I was like, what are the odds that I'm going to fly to Minneapolis on the same day? And who's on Raw? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Carrying Cross is on Raw. Yeah. So I texted him. I said, are you in? He's like, a thousand percent. I love it. course. I love the carrion whom now I've gotten to know. He's a wonderful dude who is, you know, and we, you know, we can say, you know, in, I don't know, do they say in storyline?
Starting point is 00:07:26 Look, on the show, you know, Carion Cross or killer, as I like to call him. Of course. You know, here's this absolute maniac, but he makes a lot of room to, and now they're getting to really see what his, his personality is, which I think is great on the show. And he, he, he, he, he, he, he, He does great stuff online and shit. But I love that he's like, yeah, I'm not so worried about the way it's going to look on the program. Yeah. The character. He's like, yeah, of course I'll come goof around and do a fucking bang on Jesse Ventura with Jesse Ventura.
Starting point is 00:08:00 That's like you would never see, you know, a big, you know, a WWE superstar in the past be like, oh, I do a good impression of that guy. I'm going to come do, you would never like come do a podcast. Yeah. Oh, DDP going, I do a pretty good Bill Clinton. Do you have them on your pot? What is, what are you talking about? Yeah, that's the thing. Like, Jesse Ventura, of course, exists in the wrestling world. But he's also a very prominent political figure. He's a big political figure. Of course, he's been a movie star. Yes. He was the governor. He was also the mayor. I was the mayor of the sixth largest town in Minnesota. And, you know, I was a radio host also. And, you know, they had a surplus out there in Minneapolis, the mayor and the, the, the city of, I think it was a billion dollars. And instead of giving that back, I mean,
Starting point is 00:08:49 that's the taxpayer money. And they spent it. So I said on the, on the air, I said, should I run for mayor? And the reaction was huge. So I had to. I didn't want to be the mayor, or the governor, but I did. I ran. And there were questions I didn't know the answer to in debates. And I would say, I don't know what that is, article this, that, or the other. And I said, but if it's important, I'll learn it. Trust. If I could, if they would actually debate with a libertarian or a green party candidate, but we've got the two-party system. And here I am terrified of drones at the end of the day, still terrified of drones. It was so funny when your face popped up on FaceTime, he's like, oh, hello, Will.
Starting point is 00:09:40 That's right. That's what I remember him going, hello, Will. Which was like, it is one of those things where I'm like, I don't, like, I actually truly revered Jesse Ventura. He's a legend. I fuck, but I love that guy. And it's like, I don't want to break his balls on, you know what I'm saying? So when he's like, hello, Will, I'm like, let me get this hackney bullshit out. And, you know, try not to fucking offend him.
Starting point is 00:10:05 And yeah, hi, hello me. How am I doing? And then it was, were you in the studio going, let's wrap it up? He's not, he's not going to, because he's not going to go like zoom, zoom back and forth with you. Well, what's funny is I had switched spots with Carian. And Carian came in and I'm like, well, I guess I'll just sit in the middle of them. But now I'm not miced up. So it's strange, like, I'm watching them do this interview.
Starting point is 00:10:30 And I thought it would be like back and forth, back and forth, like this gag. Yeah. Instead, he's giving serious answers to Carian's question. that were asked as Jesse. And I'm like, these are actually really good stories. That's hilarious. But now what am I going to do? Like, so after, I don't know how many minutes it was, it felt like a long time.
Starting point is 00:10:47 I was like, well, thank you so much. Carian, you are the man for doing this. And I'm like, get out of here. I mean, now, this, I don't know what's happening. I also had to run. I had to run out of this shot because Carian's gigantic, much larger than me. And the shot was framed for me. So the very start of it, Carian's head is like half cut off because that's
Starting point is 00:11:06 huge. so I had to run out of the frame and zoom out. Okay, that looks good. And then run back into the frame. Yeah, just a, yeah, whatever. I mean. But he's just larger than life from the moment he got there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:19 He just has this presence about him. Sure. And we did the interview like an hour or two before that now famous meeting with Triple H on camera where like they shook hands. Oh my gosh. It's Jesse Ventura working with the WWE again. I noticed when I noticed in the episode it's like, well, things might happen. We got two signatures left on the contract. And then it's like he's wearing
Starting point is 00:11:42 the same thing in the clips shaking Triple Age's hand. And it's like one of two things like, does he wear the same clothes? He went from our interview to the arena. That's awesome. Shook his hand, did the whole thing. And then the whole story came out with Saturday Night's made event. It's the same day. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah. And now he's back into the WWE world. Which is because Vince is gone. I had him deposed. during the, well, you know, because I wanted royalties. And he says, no, he lied. He said, nobody gets royalties, but lo and behold, Cindy Lopper was, Mr. T was, and Hulk was.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Anybody who's in show business was, of course, I knew Arnold Schwarzenegger from Predator and Running Man. And I was the only guy that beat Vince in court, and I was the only one who had an agent. So I said, we deposed him and I said, and my lawyer asked him, who, did you, how did you find out that Jesse wanted to unionize the boys? And he knew right where to go. He said, Hulk did it. So he's not my friend. So now that Vince is out, I can be on Saturday night's main event again. But, you know, did you see at the end of the interview?
Starting point is 00:13:02 goes like, it's been 30 plus years, would you ever consider bearing the hatchet, Paul Cogan? No. Yeah. Okay. Fair enough. I mean, all right. All right. Sure.
Starting point is 00:13:17 No. No. That's, okay. Yeah. Well, you and I, speaking of Paul Cogan, we were in the building not too long ago. Yeah. It was funny was we spent some time there sitting next to each other. You were in the seats where I was sitting, which were not.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Great seats. No, we were thankful to be in the building. Absolutely. They kept showing the celebrities, you know, right around ringside. I'm like, why is Will Saso not down there with McCulley Coulkin and O'Shea Jackson Jr. And Vanessa Hudgens. Yeah, no, I was sitting there eating my nachos going, big than that guy. I don't know who the fuck that is.
Starting point is 00:13:53 No. No, it was awesome, you know, just to be there. And, wow, the food over at the Intuit Dome. Oh, my gosh. Yes. They got like, it's fancy. There's Buffalo cauliflower. It was very fancy. Very fancy. Very fancy. It's very fancy arena. Yeah, there's like, you're not just getting a little slider. You're getting something with au jus at the end of it called ausue. But yeah, we were sitting in the same section. And then I was like, oh, you texted me. You're like, I'm right behind you. Yeah, I was like five rows behind you. And you turned around. I was like, hey. Then you came up and joined me because there were some open seats. What was so cool. was just being able to chat with you,
Starting point is 00:14:33 watching a little wrestling. And this guy was coming up the aisleway, and he saw me. And he's like, oh my gosh, Chris, I love you show. And I chatted with him for a second. And then he turned and saw you. And he was like, Will Sasseh.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Oh, my gosh. Oh, my, can I shake your hands? Is it okay? Can I shake your hand? Can I take a photo with you? Will Sound. Mad TV was the greatest thing ever. And you were just like, oh, hey, thanks, man.
Starting point is 00:14:56 So I took that motherfucker. We went down to the floor. I walked him over to ringside. This guy knows him. who I am. This fucking guy watched that, you know, this segment where Cain choke slams curly or some shit.
Starting point is 00:15:09 This guy knows who I am. Can I sit next to O'Shea? Can I sit behind Kieran Culkin? I don't have to beat, man, McCulley Culkin's, oh, what a pop, what a pop! And he's like, got the hat and the whole thing. Yeah, that was
Starting point is 00:15:28 fucking, he gets it. Yeah. But isn't it amazing that Mad TV went off the air 2000. Mad TV stayed on the air until 2009. You were on it to 02? I was on from 97 to 2002.
Starting point is 00:15:44 So I love that it meant that much to so many people. Well, some kids have had their minds warped by Mad TV at a very crucial age. They're like, I was one of them. Well, sure. And I'll always, you know, because there was that sort of put the kids in front of the TVs before all the tablet
Starting point is 00:16:01 and shit. People that, and, you know, there's a lot of people that come up to me and they were like, yeah, dude, I was watching that when I was six. I'm sorry, what were your parents up to? And yeah, they used to fight a lot. Dad wasn't around. Mad TV raised me. Well, see you later. Um, yeah, people are really, that show has always resonated with people in the weirdest way. And when I go back now and watch it, I'm like, ugh, like, there's, there's no way we could get away. with. The shit we got away with then was so insane. And it was always, look, Mad TV always punched up. We never, you know, made fun of people. If we did make fun of, well, you know, if it was anyone in particular, it was always a celebrity. We always punched up. But it takes on, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:54 social stuff and this and that. Some of it is obviously not for today. Comedy changes are social views sort of collectively change. You can you can make a case for none of it being hateful. But wow, when I go back, you know, I'm like so, so stoked that I got to do shit before anybody gave a fuck. And I'll be like, if anyone ever complains to me, I'll be like, there's a network signing off on this shit. Like, sorry.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Yeah. Oh, by the way, I was in my early 20s. I didn't know what the fuck I was doing. You know what I mean? Like, don't blame me. What's the bid or who's the character people always talk to you about? People like Kenny Rogers, which was not Kenny Rogers, if you don't know what I'm talking about. The first time I did Kenny Rogers, it was Kenny Rogers.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Because he sounds like, I'm Kenny Rogers and I love barbecue. Boy, barbecue. That's what he sounds like. But then I get bored with most things. And then, you know, a season later, I'm like, I'm Kenny Rogers. But that's the version people love. People, people, some people were excited by a dude going, here's an impression, but it's not an impression.
Starting point is 00:18:08 And I don't, I don't even know what the hell I'm going to do with it. And then it just got weirder and weirder. And then Kenny Rogers, a lot of people were like, a lot of people would get back to me and be like, I didn't even know Kenny Rogers was an actual guy because that's the other thing is a lot of people complain like, Will, do you do impressions of anybody who's under 70 years old? Like all my impressions, even on Mad TV were like of people that were at least a decade previous to like I started doing the show in the 90s. Yeah. It was always had to be 70s and 80s.
Starting point is 00:18:41 And now I have most of the impressions, most of the people that are doing impressions over dead. But, uh, yeah, that was fun. Steven Segal. People like that. He's not quite dead yet. Um, Randy Newman is still alive. Uh, Bill Clinton is still kicking. Um, no, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:00 That was like, that was a Bill Clinton. Yeah, no, I, I do that because I will be, I'll be running for, when you run for office, they say, Oh, Jesse's back. Yeah. Um, Bill, is Mr. Clinton there? Uh, uh, uh, that's my Bill Clinton now. It just sounds like a fucking broken fan. Uh, uh, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, uh, you know, it's funny because it's like, hey, you do impressions.
Starting point is 00:19:24 What do you do with those? I don't know, annoy my wife. like there's not really much thank you for having me on here where I can just trod them out because I literally you know I'm I like to say I'm an actor by trade that's what it says on my tax returns and so you can't just show up to work you know you're not going to annoy everybody they have things to do you can't just walk up to the you know camera crew the lighting guy and just be like you know hey how are you I'm Jesse they would love it well some of them But it's a useless skill if you're not on a sketch show.
Starting point is 00:20:01 How do you hone it? How do you hone these impressions? I don't. If I can do it, no, if I can do it, I do it. Or, like I said, sometimes I can't stop doing it. And then you're like, that's what I mean by annoying my wife. Because, you know, like, you know, if we're just, you know, doing anything, like, yeah, shopping for throw pillows.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Yeah. We're going... Oh, wow, the glasses. Uh-huh, yeah. It's a Saturday afternoon. Yeah, you might want to do something with your time. Household projects. Yeah, maybe catch a Lakers game.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Uh-uh. No way. My wife wants to shop for throw pillows. Yeah, we're going to Reformation hardware. Yeah, a little more expensive than something. Some of the other stores, not bad if you want to get a couch. Yeah, a sectional couch. You're going to want to invest some money, dear, aren't you?
Starting point is 00:21:03 Yeah, but throw pillows. Let's go to Target. No, I don't want to go to Target. Let's go to Reformation Hardware. Then you find yourself at Airwant. Yeah, I have, and speaking of, yeah, buffalo cauliflower, yeah, popo salad, salic, yeah, octopus in the salad. And that's the only time I get to do it. And she's like, shut up.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Like, I don't care. Your wife is a saint for putting up with this. You have no idea. I mean, you have no idea. Truly, truly, truly. I'm an annoying person. What an occupation you picked, though. It's the perfect occupation to be an annoying person.
Starting point is 00:21:43 It's the perfect occupation. Yeah. A lot of different occupations. Yeah, you could work for the city. Yeah. Making a manhole cover. Yeah. That's what you do.
Starting point is 00:21:54 You got a measure. They all come in a standard size, and that's something I don't even understand intrinsically. No, I don't. You could work in retail. You could work in food services, yeah. You could even be an attorney, yeah. You could be working in an office building. Nine to five, as Dolly Parton would say, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Lily Tomlin, Jane Fonda, yeah. Nine to five, check it out. Another old reference, yeah, from the guy who does impressive people who are no longer with us. Yeah, not even me. I'm no longer with us, yeah. Rest in peace, me, yeah. The greatest of all time, the macho man up on high, yeah. I don't want it.
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Starting point is 00:25:15 So I will, and again, my algorithms are just completely infected with all the other garbage I watch. So, yeah, I will catch like a story of, yeah. more often than not, you know what it is is you're in the shower, you've got the little, you know, a little portable speaker near the show. And you're just listening to your news program or your podcast of choice. And then if the next thing up, if it's not, again, Jim Cornett complaining about, you know, Dutchman Tail didn't come up with that idea. That was me. It's, you know, inevitably you'll get to like a Jesse interview.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Inevitably. Yeah. And then you're just, you're listening to him. It was in, I was in Bud, training, ballistic underground demolition, seal training, and, you know, climbing the hell week. It was one of the worst times I had. You'd be on the ropes so much that you'd get blisters and they would peel open and flap open. And my drill sergeant, he called them flappers.
Starting point is 00:26:16 He says, Jesse looks like you've got some flappers. Come here. And then he rips off my flappers. That's something you've probably never had as a man rip off your flappers. He got emotional during our interview. Did he? Yeah, there was a point where he teared up talking about Navy SEALs, just like what it meant to his life.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Sure. Wow. Yeah. We ran the gamut from the silliness of you and carrying cross, impersonating him in front of him. Yeah. To like him talking about, like, how veterans aren't treated with respect now.
Starting point is 00:26:50 He's big into that. Yeah. I don't fly commercial anymore. I was honorably discharged. I serve this nation proudly, and then I get patted down at the airport. You know, the problem with it, Chris, is I got used to it. And now I won't do that anymore. I sued them over the Fourth Amendment.
Starting point is 00:27:11 And the judge, you know, they were cowardly about it. You can't go against the Fourth Amendment. If you ask me what it is right now, I'm not sure. Exactly. But I did sue them because I don't want to get patted down. at the airport. I served my country. Yeah, man, look, that guy's lived legit five lives. For sure.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Legit, at least five lives. Because before all of it, he was like a bodyguard slash security for these mega bands. Oh, really? Yes. See, I didn't know that. You've got to dive even deeper. Yeah. For what bands?
Starting point is 00:27:47 Let me look into my notes here. Alice Cooper. He was working with Jake at WrestleMania 3, and I said, Alice, he said, that's not my name. I said, I know I'm keeping K-Faber, not exactly golfing, you stupid, son of the bitch. I have all these notes in my
Starting point is 00:28:05 in my phone of any person I've ever interviewed or will possibly interview one day. There's a family lead, everybody. Rolling Stones. What? Grateful Dead. Bruce Springsteen. That's crazy. Yeah. See, I had no idea. Now you know.
Starting point is 00:28:21 That's wild. Just another layer to add on to your impression. I was, uh, you know, was me and Mick Jagger. I was at Altamont for the stabbing. And Keith Richards was so fucking drunk out of his mind. He had no idea. He ran into the crowd with wielding his guitar like a battle axe. And I stopped him.
Starting point is 00:28:41 You know, what would have happened with we no longer had Keith because the hell's angels killed him? What would you have Eric Clapton in the stones? That's not the same style. You know, Keith will tell you he's preserved because of the heroin. You know, a lot of a hill outlive us all. You're the greatest improv actor for the time. This is unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:29:02 That guy at Raw thought so. And then Jimmy Hart waving the flag. He got fucking, like, oh, what's going on? He caught a strain. Yeah. Yeah. He had nothing to do with it. I think it was a week or, it was two weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:29:16 The anniversary of your match with Brett Hart on Nitro just passed. February 15. Oh, it was, yep. Ninety-9. It was February. Yep. Where was it? It was in Tampa, Florida, at the Tampa, you know, like the fairgrounds and the armory or something.
Starting point is 00:29:31 It was about a, hmm, maybe a 5,000 cedar. It wasn't a big, you know, hockey basketball arena. And Nitro in 99 is still doing okay. Still doing okay. It's before they changed the logo to the pointy logo. I didn't never like that logo. Me neither. Nobody liked that.
Starting point is 00:29:46 But yeah, it was, that was absolutely nuts. I got to think about this. You wrestled Brett. art. It's stupid. And like, you're already a massive wrestling fan. Yeah. Like, we're not just going to throw you in there for like a comedy bit, which you have done. Yep. But like, no, you're going to wrestle arguably the greatest wrestler of all time. In my opinion, the greatest in-ring performer of all time. Or just let's call it like it is, the greatest pro wrestler of all time. Because, you know, he, I've said this about that match that Brett could have a match with, you know, a whatever, a 300-pound bag of
Starting point is 00:30:24 which he did on that night. And for those who don't know what the hell we're talking about, when I was on this television program, Mad TV, we concocted this feud that happened between Brett and I, over a year or two from two different seasons and thing, and he gets mad at me. He attacks me. It was all, you know, cooked up.
Starting point is 00:30:45 And then all of a sudden it turns into a wrestling storyline where I'm going to be, it is an homage sort of to the Andy Kaufman and Jerry Lawler. thing and Brett was so game and it was great but Brett is also so old school that it's like you know we're doing the match fly to Tampa a couple of my buddies flew out to see it because they're like we're not going to miss this yeah and we go out to a bar the night before and we're all in the same car along with Brian Hart no relation writer executive producer mad TV also a huge wrestling fan made this whole thing happen it was Brian who was like I think let's get bread on the show and
Starting point is 00:31:22 I got a sketch for him and then what are we're doing? if we did this, it was really, it was Brian was the guy behind this whole thing. And we go into this bar and, uh, the night before and Brett's like, okay, uh, I'm going to go in first and then you guys, uh, you know, you can come in later. And my buddy's like, no, we want to go in with you. Okay. So you guys and Brian, you come in with me and then we'll just wait a half hour and then come in and don't sit near me. And I was like, come on. We got to, he's like, no, no, no. Matches tomorrow. I don't want. So we k-faved it.
Starting point is 00:31:55 I go into this bar that is also where Brett Hart is. So people are coming up to me like, we're following this thing. Yeah. And I'm on TV. I'm on like entertainment magazine outlets going, no, I'm going to sue the fucking, he attacked me on Mad TV.
Starting point is 00:32:10 I'm like, I'm going to access Hollywood going, I'm suing him. And it looks legit. It looked legit. He hit me with a chair. Yes. And he goes, how hard should I hit you with the chair?
Starting point is 00:32:22 and in order so that it would look gnarly on TV, I said to the excellence of execution, go ahead, Brett, hit me as hard as you can. You can't hurt me because I really wanted him to hit me. I had raised welts on my back for like a couple weeks. Because it wasn't a steel chair. No, it was one of those, it was a stingy, it was like a steel framed with the plastic.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Yeah. So it was probably better than getting hit with a real steel chair. But it was still a lot of, there was a lot of apparatus there to raise and, uh, and split your skin. Um, and then I had an alligator pad on my knee and leg and he starts wailing on my knee. And then he puts me in the sharpshooter. And I'm screaming. And so the leg was, and Brett never heard anybody. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Um, you know, taking a thing to your back. Even that, it's like, this is a surface thing and I pissed him off. So he did it. and then we get to this thing and cut to me in a bar with people going, you know who's right over there? Brett Hart's over there. I'm like, no. What?
Starting point is 00:33:28 Oh, holy shit. We got a match the next day. Come on. We're doing this. We're doing the thing. But crazy for him to be like, yeah, that sounds cool. Let's do it. What a great Brett.
Starting point is 00:33:41 We were talking on the flight about the match. And I didn't know. I was like, well, what are we going to do? What should we ask him to do in this and that? and Brian, again, the mastermind behind this whole thing, he goes, he knew what he wanted from the match. We show up, Brett's like, you know, because also it's like, you know, we know what the segment is. And of course, Brett's going to go over. The match isn't going to be all that long.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Eight minutes, five minute match, you know, commercial to commercial. And, you know, intros and outro. And then, uh, curtain, curtain. Yeah, curtain to eight minutes. So he goes, uh, so he's like, you know, so what do you want to do? you want to do like a cheap shot or something. And Brian's like, here's what we want to do. The match starts and you beat the shit out of will the whole time leisurely.
Starting point is 00:34:28 And Brett was like, because we hate as wrestling fans when like Jay Leno has Hulk Hogan and a headlock. Like that is, and to me it's like it's the, it's the two hands. There's two sides to it. Anytime I've been fortunate enough to go on the program and do a bit, with like Stone Cold or you did a thing with Kane years back and you know you get the shit kicked out of you. The other part of me is like I'm a wrestling fan. I don't want to see like I don't care to see you know the guy from you know this or that you know knocking out so and so or getting a leg up on the wrestlers. It should look like you go in the ring you do a bit or whatever. Then when you get
Starting point is 00:35:15 when your goose is cooked, your goose is cooked, and you should get chokeslammed by Kane or stunned by Steve Austin and, you know, like, catch the stunner and you're, this was a bad idea for you to do this. Wrestling should be on top. And I feel like with some of the celebrities, oh, that dude in the Rumble, that Braun Breaker. I show speed.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Oh, my God. See, that's how you do it. Because Bronner was like, ah, you're in here now. I don't know what papers you filled out, but enjoy this. What's so funny about that segment is I always tell people with any wrestling storyline, have a little bit of patience. Like with what's going on currently with Jay Uso, winning the Rumble leading up to Manny. Just have a little bit of patience. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:57 When I Show Speed ended up taking Tazawa's spot in the Rumble, people were like, oh, what the heck is this? Because they don't want the celebrity guest thing, which I totally get. What the heck is this guy doing out? This is so stupid, the streamer out there. 90 seconds later, it creates the most. viral moment of Royal Roman, probably history, shared like 300 million times in 24 hours on social media. So it's like, if you just had 90 seconds of patience to see how this thing would play out,
Starting point is 00:36:27 you'd see, oh my gosh, they were setting us up for that. Well, and they did it right because he got his just desserts for stepping in the ring. And that's what it should be. If someone comes into the ring, it should be. So our thing is like, here's this, you know, big goofy guy. from Mad TV who's had this this problem with Brett Hart and now it's getting settled in the ring and you've got you know Tony Chivani Mike Teney and the greatest of all time Bobby Heenan which that alone having Bobby Heenan call like you know like just unbelievable you know
Starting point is 00:37:03 like he it someone was like well maybe Will Sassau had some experience with wrestling perhaps in high school so what do you mean we're not detailing his high school wrestling career he's in there with the excellence of execution. What's going to? Because they're just calling what they're calling. Yeah. But I bet in the back of their heads they're like, man, I hope he doesn't get a move on Brett. This is dumb. And so, you know, Brett just kind of eats the shit out of me the whole time.
Starting point is 00:37:32 And Brian wanted him to, he's like, maybe you just even take a chair like, oh, is he going to hit him with a fucking chair now? Now he just puts the chair in the middle of the ring and drinks a bottle of water. And I'm like, I love that. And then the only look, I have said, I might have even said it on the program here. So sorry if you've already heard this, but he goes, we go out there in the afternoon. He goes, well, let's just go feel the ring out. And he gives me a Russian leg sweep. And then I went and took the ropes.
Starting point is 00:38:00 I think we talked about this. I hurt my, I hurt my, I took the ropes the wrong way. And I was like, fuck. It's like that elevator cable from the, you know, in WCW. Yeah. You know, LaParca can jump off it. And, and I go, I. go, I go, okay, he's like, you know, you'll figure it out.
Starting point is 00:38:17 You've watched this shit. I'm like, exactly. I've watched this shit. What are you talking about? I haven't been in there with you. You played contact sports. I'll throw you around. He said the only thing to remember, he goes, don't move.
Starting point is 00:38:31 I'll move you. I'll either do something to you or move you to do the next thing. So I was like, okay, easy enough. That's it. That was all he did. That's how incredible. It's all he told me. That's how incredible Brett Hart is.
Starting point is 00:38:45 He's like, and he would talk a little bit, like, clothesline, go off the ropes and clothesline. And I can't wait to, quote, unquote, sell. Or, you know, because I love physical comedy and falling all over the place. And, you know, 25 years ago, I was even way more into that than I am now, you know, just being a young dude like, yeah, fucking break my ass up there, do whatever. And one thing Brian Hart wanted him to do was, that quick leg drop that Brett does. He's just standing there
Starting point is 00:39:16 and bang, he drops that very quick leg. So Brett's like, don't move. I'll pick you up. I'll do the next thing. Or if you're laying flat on your back, stay flat on your back. I'm about to do something. Cut two, I'm laying flat on my back, and I'm just looking up at the lights.
Starting point is 00:39:32 And time slowed down. It felt like a minute. I was just looking up at the lights going, this is crazy. I'm on professional wrestling. I'm wrestling Brett the hitman heart. This guy's one of my heroes. He's one of my favorite. He's the best
Starting point is 00:39:48 guy to do it. What is what is going on? This is a fucking crazy. Anyway, and I start to get up. Yeah. Which, and this in reality it was two seconds. I'm just like this. Okay. Okay. And I start to get up and if you watch it, you see
Starting point is 00:40:04 Brett is in the air as my fat ass rolls over to get up. And in the air, he adjusts to make his needle like this so that my head falls in his pocket. How good is Brad Hart? Just intuitively not breaking my neck. Like he knows that he's like, oh, here's a fucking dude who's never done anything like this or any of this at all.
Starting point is 00:40:29 No problem. Let's do it on TV. He's the greatest. Man. And he's stomping the shit out of you in the corner. And then, you know, I remember just walking out afterwards and, standing my pals like that I just felt like like nothing happened like none of it nothing nothing happened does it give you like such a greater appreciation yes or obviously what the pros
Starting point is 00:40:54 can do people have been in there for 10 or 20 or 30 years fucking it's it's unbelievable but what about someone like Logan Paul who like yes makes it look so easy and he's only done whatever it is now it doesn't matches or something right no he look I mean he's he's built for it he's such a natural heel and he knows how to talk, obviously. But also, like, you look at him, you know, all the stuff he's ever done. Yeah, you just remember, you know, as a kid on Vine, he was, like, jumping out of windows in college. Yeah. He's already like a, like a beefy, athletic, you know, acrobatic dude.
Starting point is 00:41:28 And he was a collegiate wrestler, too. Oh, he was? Yeah. I know. Or maybe he's a high school wrestler, but he has a pedigree there. Wow. Well, you know, he's, it's shocking to see the stuff that he can do. he's got that new finisher.
Starting point is 00:41:42 That looks crazy. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's like that to me is, that's one of the coolest weird things. You can't even call it a crossover because he's legit a professional wrestler. But he's not a part-timer. No, he's a guy who's like,
Starting point is 00:41:58 I'm going to do this, but he also, I mean, what is the bulk of his, the bulk of his sort of work, his existence right now is impulsive. So he does his show. It hasn't gotten in the way of that. It's made it better. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:12 He gets, you know, he has all sorts of guests. I guess the podcast is his main thing. Pretty much. I can't think of anything else. They're filming the reality show right now. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Yeah. There's that. That maybe they only do that for a month or something. And, you know, he could be off TV. It's, it's perfect.
Starting point is 00:42:28 And he's a savant at it. And not for nothing. You know, they say like, you know, he's training with Sean Michaels. So that's to have Sean Michaels go like, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:39 here's how you do a kip-up kit. I'm not going to try to. Here's my Sean Michael. Your hat needs to be a lot lower if you're going to be Sean Michaels. Undertaker. No. Here's my. It's the slammy's a few years back.
Starting point is 00:42:51 And he goes, Daniel Bryan. That's my Sean. Daniel Brian. Logan. Here's how you do it, Kim up. I can't do. Hurricane Helms is producing all his matches too.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Ah. That guy's brilliant. That's cool. It's such a brilliant mind for putting a match together, making the moments creating certain things in the ring. See, that's cool. Chain Helms is brilliant. His shit was awesome.
Starting point is 00:43:17 The first time I saw the Vertebraker, I'm like, what is going on here? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And one of those dudes who came over from, you know, WCW kind of farting out there at the end, who they couldn't deny. Because he was in three count. Three count. And you're like, there's no room for that. But all three guys in three count were insanely.
Starting point is 00:43:39 talented. Shane Helms, Evan Courageous, and Shannon Moore. Oh, wow. Like so, and then Tank Abbott ends up joining later on, but we don't need to talk about that. But they were so talented when WCW was doing that cruiserweight hour, that first hour show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've completely gone off on a tangent here. No, well, the, the, well, yeah, but the, Logan Paul could have existed in that time, too. Sure. How much wrestling are watching now? Not a lot. I'm not really well. So you're watching like only 15 hours of wrestling a week. That's right.
Starting point is 00:44:13 I'm only consuming 15. No, I've missed out on the product a lot, dude. I have a, I'm doing this show. We're doing this series on CBS called Georgie and Mandy's First Marriage. And one of my cohorts on the show, Jesse Prez, is a huge wrestling fan. So we dork out. We talk about wrestling all the time. He came with to Raw.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Shout out to Jesse. Shout out to Jesse and Dougie Baldwin who came to Raw. And, but, But Jesse will keep me abreast of things. Like he's like, do you watch the Rumble? I was like, I only watched the men's Rumble match. That's it, just the main event. It's like, you didn't watch Cody versus Kevin Owens.
Starting point is 00:44:49 I was like, no, I miss. He's like, you got to, literally every other day at work. He's like, have you gone back and watch Cody and Kevin Owens? I'm like, I still got to do it, but I will. He's like, dude, you got to watch it. Okay. So he kind of keeps me up on what's happening. You're aware of what's going on?
Starting point is 00:45:02 I'm the storylines. I'm sort of aware on what's happening. Look, sometimes there are some years. as a wrestling fan. Because I've been a wrestling fan for, ooh, I don't know, 60, 70 years now. But there's sometimes where it's like, it's like sports.
Starting point is 00:45:19 You're like, I don't have time right now. Check it out in the playoffs. Sure. The playoffs are Royal Rumble on. We're getting there. We're in it. We're on the road to Russellmania. So I feel like I'm not doing my due diligence as a wrestling fan.
Starting point is 00:45:34 I actually do have to go back and watch Rumble from start to finish, except for a couple of matches that Jesse already told me all about. There was only four matches. Yeah, he already told me about the women's rumble. You know, good to hear that
Starting point is 00:45:49 was, I said it because I shouldn't say this. I wanted the, whatever. I was like, did she hurt everybody? Anyway, I shouldn't.
Starting point is 00:45:58 But, oh, did this, did she hurt absolutely everyone? And then break her ankle? No. Yeah. There's only,
Starting point is 00:46:08 Yeah, there's only four matches. You don't need to... I can tell you what happened in all of them, so you're good. Yeah, but I do have a take on a few of the things that's happening. I do have... Okay, look, CM Punk eliminates Seth Rollins and Roman Raines at the same time, which was... That was great.
Starting point is 00:46:26 That was fucking great. It's like, it's like, oh, these guys are, you know, Roman and Seth are mixing it up again. And then CM Punk is very involved with both guys, legitimately. he needs that favor from the wise man, for Paul Heyman. And it's like what's going to happen there? So I, here's, let me just, let me just hear it. Fantasy bucket.
Starting point is 00:46:49 This is, this is what I think is going to happen. With Cody Rhodes and the WWE championship, he is going to, this is, I'll just spit it, whatever. And then hopefully in the comments of this, you guys can get into the conversation. maybe this isn't new. This is what I see coming. CM Punk is going to ask Haman for that favor.
Starting point is 00:47:12 That favor is going to have something to do with what's going to happen in, you know, who's facing Cody, obviously, at Mania, because it's Jay Usoe and Walter. Still call him Gunther. Guzher, who I still call Walter, sorry. But over here with Cody, I think there's going to be a scenario where Seth gets
Starting point is 00:47:35 involved and Roman gets involved and CM Punk somehow gets involved. And because he's been winning, he deserves a shot. Seth has the thing with maybe the program goes to, you know, Cody and Seth jaw jacking at each other, CM Punk, he comes in. You can't keep Roman out of it. Paul Heymans, of course, got him in there. It's a, it's a mania, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:58 a rematch. Maybe that's how it starts, just the two of them. I think it's going to be a four-way dance between the four of them. and I think in the end, Cody is going to finally turn heel, and he's going to do it with Paul Heyman by his side. Wow. And he's going to move on to, I think, I think, at least, at least to Next Mania.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Wow. That's what I think. Until Next Mania as champ. Well, yes, because I also think that John Cena chasing the championship is going to take the entire calendar year. I think it's going to take a lot of the calendar year. I think that they're really doing the hero's journey with John Cena. Doesn't win the Rumble.
Starting point is 00:48:40 I feel like he's not going to win Elimination Chamber. But then what's an interesting match at WrestleMania then? Because I feel like John Cena's got to be in the main event at WrestleMania. I just feel like he's got to be one of the main event. One of the main event matches. Remember there's two. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's John Cena.
Starting point is 00:48:55 It's his last WrestleMania. I don't think you can just put him in an opening match or just a... Well, he opened the show a couple years ago against Austin Theory. He did. This is not, but this is the farewell. That's right. This is his last one. I don't think it's just a throwaway WrestleMania match.
Starting point is 00:49:08 I think it's a match that like we really sink our teeth into. I don't know what it is right now. Well, see, that's the thing is he can have a fucking great match. And I'm sure he's, you know, he looks great. Like he looks great. He's, he's, I'm sure he can, you know, or else he wouldn't be doing this if he can't do it to the best of his ability. And he's probably, you know, I mean, this is a great call because he's a guy. who's in great shape, and he'll have to continue to be doing what he does, you know, with his
Starting point is 00:49:37 work in movies and shit. So he could probably still do it for a few years. So to call it now, that's interesting. I don't know who he would. I don't either. So this is, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:49 I got it. I got it. Hey, Mama's cooking now. Mamas. Um, because, you know, you got to be with some of the real legends of a long time ago, you got to be a little ginger, you got to make sure no one gets hurt. John Sina, I know he kind of did a few years ago, but he didn't. John Sina, Underdegger.
Starting point is 00:50:12 That's not going to happen. Okay. No. I don't know who. Underdigger's very adamant. What about John Sina Braun Breaker? Sure. That could definitely happen.
Starting point is 00:50:22 I think John Sina only has like six to ten matches this year. That's what I think. And also, he has to work really safe, right? because if they're planning on riding this all the way till December, when he has his retirement match, he's got to work safe and not get injured, not get hurt all the way from now in February to December. Penta.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Don't see the Penta. Zero, Medio. He's so great. Zado, mea. Mieto. He's so great. Oh, he's fucking awesome. He's a bad.
Starting point is 00:50:52 I love Penton. I love Penton and AEW. So I go back even before that, him and Lucha Underground was incredible. Oh, I never watched him in Luch, He wrestled Chelsea Green in Luch Underground. Oh, it's a great match, too. See, now I got to go back.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Now I'm going to go to work and tell Jesse, did you see Penta versus Chelsea Green? He's going to go, of course I did. I saw Chelsea versus Eoskeye in Luch Underground. Yeah. Back when they were calling her Eo Shari. I don't really care for this new name. But at least they didn't cut her fucking name in half and just call her EO or Sky.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Good talk, Jesse. Okay, no. But there's a lot of major players here that we, If we're talking WrestleMania, we've got who's Cody Road's going to be in there with? CM Punk. Yeah. Seth Rollins. Who's Roman Rain's going to be in there?
Starting point is 00:51:38 I think it's those. Is Randy Orton going to return? Is he going to have a match? Randy Orton's, uh, uh, Seena would be great, of course. Which I think will end up being his retirement match. That's cool. I think it's going to be, it's going to be Randy Orton and John Cena retiring. Of course, John Cena wins number 17.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Maybe he is the champion going into his final. match and loses it to Randy Orton. That's cool. I could see that. Like there's talk right now of there being a PLA. I was going to call it a pay-per-view. We all know what we're talking about. Yeah, I call them still call them pay-per-views.
Starting point is 00:52:10 I still call him pay-per-views. There are whispers that they're going to have an event in Boston in December and call it ruthless aggression. That's awesome. Completely full circle. That's great. Yeah, at the Garden in Boston. Well, how about this?
Starting point is 00:52:25 Look, it's mania. You got to bring out the big, you know, it always, has to be the big names at mania. There's, there's, you know, also the rock might be peppered into this. The rock might,
Starting point is 00:52:34 the final boss might come back. Um, I feel like, uh, we talk about it, but Logan Paul versus Sina would be good at mania. Because that would get a lot of media attention. And that's what you want.
Starting point is 00:52:46 But I think people are like, well, Logan Paul tossed punk out of the rumble. Is there something there? Oh yeah. What am I even saying? I don't know. Okay, forget about the four-way dance.
Starting point is 00:52:55 I was talking. No, no. I love the, I love your fantasy booking. Well, is this fucking favor? The favor with the wise man has to be something.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Ah! Ha! Ha! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Logan doesn't have a match at Mania because whatever. He's a busy guy shooting his reality show. He's not going to be training. Let's just say, for argument's sake, doesn't have a match at Mania. He interferes
Starting point is 00:53:18 in that four-way match. That's who gets CM Punk out. So Punk saves some face. It's not his fucking fault. Heyman made made the whatever, like he made his provisions to help CM Punk get into the match. And that's all he's going to do. And now, you know, now Logan Paul somehow interferes with CM Punk.
Starting point is 00:53:41 You set up that program. Then you've got, then you've got Roman and Seth are on their way for a very cool program if you want to do that. Or just kind of reinvigorate that, that sort of thing. I think there's a lot of wrestling fans that are young wrestling fans that don't even know about the Shield. and Seth turning. That way you can keep Rome in a face and have Seth, you know, be really evil about shit. CM Punk stays a face, but really he's sort of a tweener. He's a tweener.
Starting point is 00:54:09 And you can do whatever, whichever way the wind blows there, whichever the fans want to do. And he can turn on a dime, as we know. And then you've got Cody fucking vicious heel in the suits, in the suit next to Paul Heyman in a suit, holding the fucking title for him. Cody doesn't even have to hold the title anymore. That would be so cool. He's just out there with the mic. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:54:34 I think it's going to happen. Cody Hill turn will happen. It's happening. We know it's happening, but it's going to be so old school when he does it because you're going to have, you know, Haman in there.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Hamon who, of course, came up under Dusty. You know what I mean? Like, or I don't know how he, he wasn't booking, but the old stories of, of him being a kid showing up in the room, taking pictures and stuff.
Starting point is 00:55:00 And it's like, what was the thing? Paul Heyman had a story where it's like, baby, what are you doing in here? He's like, well, I'm here learning from the best. All right, stick around, baby. You know, so, you know, it's like that he's known dusty roads. He knew dusty roads forever. It's brought him into ECW for a one-off.
Starting point is 00:55:18 There you go. I think the, the connection between Cody and Hayman. Cody's heel turn is inevitable. I don't know if it's this year or next year. three years from now, but I think it's inevitable. Yep. I also feel like they've been trying to make Roman and Rock happen for the last two years. It was supposed to happen at 39.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Rock says like something about the creative was off, which kind of tells me someone wasn't willing to put another person over. They were certainly going to make this happen at 40, but that never made sense. Cody wins the rumble and says, it's okay. I don't want my shot. That never made sense. I hated that. I'm so glad they righted that wrong.
Starting point is 00:55:59 I liked, but I loved that the rock came back as the final boss. Like he was wearing those. And if I may be a total fucking wrestling dork, that heat seeker outfit of his with the fucking like Samoa out, like with the sleeveless. And then the first he was wearing the Armani shirts like the $5,000 shirt or whatever like that from, from, you know, the attitude era. Then he comes in with these flared pants. Yes. That was so dope. And he was mean.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Yes. Mean as shit. But then he comes in Iran. He's not mean. And he, you know, was more of a standard rock appearance over the past, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:39 20 years since he's been having it. I think that was more to just say, thank you to the Netflix people who just gave us $5 billion. Right. We've got the biggest movie star in the world. And he's part of our universe too. Yes.
Starting point is 00:56:50 I think that that's what that was. I really feel like the Rock's promo at first raw on Netflix was just a one-off thing. But that for wrestling fans, I think that there's a little bit of like, okay, well, wait a minute, last year, in what we love, you were bloodying, you know, fucking,
Starting point is 00:57:10 Cody. Oh, what a segment that was. In the rain. In the rain, fantastic. Look at you now. Yeah. Look at you now. What you kept saying,
Starting point is 00:57:18 look at you now over and over again. Look at you now. Now look at you now. And look at you now. And look at you now. Um, and then this same guy that we've all, like, we're all so stoked that he's back and being a bad guy. Hey, you come out and do that. You're absolutely right.
Starting point is 00:57:33 That's what the Rock's going to do. But I think that in story wise, you know, I think they're probably going, all right. We don't, yeah, we're doing that with, with Rock because we don't have anything super lined up right now. Yeah, which is strange. Well, he doesn't need a mania match. You could do rain. Just one. You can do it at SummerSlan.
Starting point is 00:57:53 I don't know. I don't feel like Rock's going to wrestle again unless it's mania. Yeah, I think you're right. If I give you a like, if I just list off some people, can you do impressions of them? We can see. I feel like you've got a long list of impressions. A lot of impressions that I annoy my wife, my wife with. Yes, Chris.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Hulk Hogan. Well, let me tell you something. You know, I've always said, brother, that Hulk Hogan talks over here and he talks over here. or he likes to talk right down the middle. You say one thing over it. No. But, you know, my Hulk and the thing we used to do on the old, you know, we used to have this podcast, dudesy, where I was just, it just turned into such a meme of, hold on again, dude. Hold on, brother.
Starting point is 00:58:39 Hold on, Chris Van Bleet. Hold on. Because there's the prayers of vitamins. But I like the conversational. I don't know, dude. That was a different time, brother. Well, you know, Jesse will tell you one thing. dude, but the way he says you know is so deep, you know, you know, uh, I had it in my rider,
Starting point is 00:58:59 dude that I had a, uh, aluminum garbage can full of Miller light, dude, and the boss could drink from it, Andre, but, well, hold on, dude. That's why Jesse was upset, brother, because he didn't get to drink from Miller light garbage can, dude. That's why we had heat. And Muhammad Ali was there, dude, and Michael Jackson. They were all there at WrestleMania three. No, they weren't. I don't know about that, dude. Hey, you know, hot. It's so true. Hold on, dude.
Starting point is 00:59:29 WrestleMania 3, brother, in front of 250,000. No, it was 93 was the official count, but I think they say it was more like 80. Hold on, dude. I don't know about that, dude. There was a million people there, brother. It was the biggest crowd of all time. And Andre, everybody knows, swelled up to 900 pounds, brother. And I, well, no, he probably was.
Starting point is 00:59:49 And I was slamming that giant, brother. I slammed that giant, that dirty. giant right through the mat, dude. Five times in that match. No, no, you didn't. And no one had slammed it before, dude. No one had ever slammed. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:00:02 I fucking saw Ivan Putsky do it in 1977. Blackjack Mulligan did it every fucking three times a match. What do you mean? You know, I don't know about that, dude. Yeah, Greg Valentine slammed. Everybody fucking slammed Andre. He was 420 pounds. We're talking about some strong.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Nope. Never been defeated either. What do you mean he'd never been defeated? Fucking lust. I saw him lose to fucking Danny Spivey. Oh my goodness, can you do Andre? Not as good as Dan Soder. Shout out to Dan Soder.
Starting point is 01:00:35 My Andre is, I always loved how Andre would get the names of the title wrong because I used just too French for it. So he would go like, and now all good, their world, war, that team champion is mine. It's like, what? you made a new title. The World Continental tag champion.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Oh, all good. So no. The answer is no, I can't do that. There's a lot that you might, if you ask me some, there may be some that I haven't done since the seventh grade. British Bulldog? Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Well, I love this story where they cut a promo. Everybody knows this. Bobby Heenan and the Islanders, I think it was in 87 or 88, Haku and Tama, they stole Matilda, the British Bulldogs Bulldog, Matilda. Wow. This is a deep cut. Very deep cut. And Bobby Heen was like, they stole the dog.
Starting point is 01:01:37 And then the British Bulldogs had a promo. Like, where's the dog? And Heenan's like, I don't know where that dog is. Last time I saw him, he was woofing at our heels. We were out of there. But the Bulldogs, someone produced this promo with them having to be really sad. so now these two fucking baniacs are like having to pretend to be sad
Starting point is 01:01:58 about a dog you know so they're like so and Davy Boy goes Bobby Inan we know you've got the dog we love that dog Bobby please bring the dog back we know the islanders took the dog Bobby that dog's like a child to us please Bobby bring the dog back and then it cuts and then dynamites next to him doing the same thing
Starting point is 01:02:18 Bob Ian and we know you've got the dog we saw you take the dog we love that dog we love Mattela's like a child to us Bobby and please Bobby in and bring the dog back to the British bulldogs like the same fucking promo
Starting point is 01:02:33 from two guys you know it's like Bruce Bridger's like I don't fucking know you guys are sad and the dog's gone and well how do we be Bruce excuse me how would I be sad about another living thing you know do this
Starting point is 01:02:46 okay yeah yeah that's good I'm gonna do that too Dynamite, I'm already doing that. Maybe you could, I'm going to do this. It's not just that you do the voice. It's that you absolutely nail the promo. That promo's burned in my head.
Starting point is 01:03:04 That's my... One of my favorite interview moments over the last year is me talking to Jake the Snake Roberts about your impression of Jake the Snake Roberts. Well, because that promo... But that you nailed every word of that promo. I literally can't. forget the promo. And isn't it appropriate that the very money you grovel for is your own?
Starting point is 01:03:28 No, he goes, the money that you grovel for, is your very, the very money. It's literally in my head. Your very own. Is your very own, a victim of your own greed. Wordsworth couldn't have said about, though there are some of these promos that are so burned into my head from being a kid and watching this shit where you're Just like back in the day when you would rent, you know, Coliseum video and get the thing. And you just watch. And you'd watch it over. And over. Yep.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Over and over. That's how I feel about attitude era promos. It's the dumbest promos too. Yeah. You come out here. You got your Mickey Mouse tattoos. You're a do. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:04:16 When he's talking about the Undertaker, the Undertaker, the Undertaker, you come out here to face the rock. And you say, die, die, die. That one was great. Big show, you with your monkey ass. This is a deep cut. I was talking to Kurt Engel about the Sunday night heat promo where he was pretending to interview The Rock, like where he was asking questions and cutting it into previous Rock promos. The old weird Albin.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Exactly. Yes. Rock, thanks for joining us today. Yeah. That's super. Rock, let me start by asking you what you think about Stone Cold Steve Austin. Well, the Rock will tell you exactly what he thinks about Stone Cold Steve Austin and all his little shenanigans.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Sure, he's a piece of monkey crap and a gibrony. Isn't that harsh rock? And then the rock's like drinking some water in a completely different outfit. Sure, rock. Drink up. Oh, that's great.
Starting point is 01:05:11 But I'm talking to Kurt Angle about this ridiculous deep cup. Did you remember it? Yeah, of course. But for Sunday night heat, like, oh, yeah, that's, that's amazing. What about, uh, what about, Undertaker?
Starting point is 01:05:25 You're in my yard. Oh, wow. wow, that version of taker. Well, the thing about, well, this is something actually the aforementioned Brian Hart. We used to talk about this all the time that you would, it's like the dead man. He's the undertaker. He's an old West undertaker when they bring him in. But he's fucking, he's so Texas.
Starting point is 01:05:47 He's from Houston. Yes. So he's like, that's why, you know, you go Zuna, you, you know, next Sunday. you will rest in peace. Like on Tuesday night Titans. We went to Rivera on Thursday. No, that's not good. See, that's not good.
Starting point is 01:06:13 That needs work. You're going to have to annoy my wife with that one. What else is that? I'm just going to throw out random names from the United States. Some of them I can do. Can you do a DDP? It's me. No, no.
Starting point is 01:06:25 You can do that pass if you can't do it. Yeah, I don't think I can do a DDP. Nope, nope. Can you do Arnold Schwarzenegger? Not a wrestler, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, move on. Who else is there? You know, Arnold Schwarzenegger actually,
Starting point is 01:06:42 there was an episode of Smackdown where they had Arnold come on the show and he was sitting ringside with King and J.R. Yes. Do you remember this? Yes. They gave him a blue, you know, big eagle belt. And he punched Triple H.
Starting point is 01:06:58 He punched Triple H. Triple H comes out. He punches him. And, but the, the call that he had was so great because he, he didn't, he didn't really know who was a good guy or a bad guy. So, and he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, look at this guy here. He's, he's like the devil. He's got all this red. He's the devil.
Starting point is 01:07:17 He's, is like the devil in the movie, end of days. In the movie, end of days. But Kane was a good guy at the time. And Jared was like, well, I don't know about that. around these parts. And look at this guy. He's going to come here to save the day. He's the hero with the blonde hair.
Starting point is 01:07:32 I don't know about that. He's the unsavory character around here, Triple H, that dastardly game. JR hated Triple H. Yeah, always hated Triple H. Can you do mankind? Not McFolly, Mankind. Uh, we.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Uh, uh, you know, um, always finding it. Because you've got to have the right side up. You know, well, I'm better at Mick, I think. I wouldn't say that getting hit with a chair is something that I love to do so much as it is something that I'm good at. You know, it was the best was when Kredgley was happening, Edge, Christian, and Foley. Is that the real name? Credjali was the name of their fact sheem.
Starting point is 01:08:21 There was the regime and there was a faction. They're legit. They're, their thing. It's like, we need a regime. No, a faction. We'll call it a faccheem. So it was Edge and Christian and Foley when Foley was the commissioner. And they called it a fact sheem,
Starting point is 01:08:38 Predgley. Man, you remember some ridiculous things. Well, right? Wow. You remember that fucking Sunday night heat promo. And I remember they had a, they had a segment where Edge and Christian were the tag champs and they were like, we deserve our own dressing room. There's no way we shouldn't have our own dressing room, Mick.
Starting point is 01:08:57 This is crazy. The Rock gets his own dressing room. Stone Cold has his own dressing room. We should have our own dressing room. And Mick's like, you know, guys, I don't know about that. You know, all the years I wrestled, I didn't have my own dressing room. And then he's like, you never changed in anything. Just wrestled in what you were wearing.
Starting point is 01:09:16 That's a good point. Never got changed. Just wrestled them what you were wearing. How about Triple H? Because there's two Triple Hs, right? There's promo Triple H. Yeah. And then there's like the Triple H now.
Starting point is 01:09:33 Yeah, Triple H now is just, you know, we had a really good gate. And we're really excited about this new merger. And I'm going to let Nick Kahn take it away here. You know, back in the day, you know, Cactus Jack. Yeah. All right. What else? No, it's pretty.
Starting point is 01:09:53 It's all right. I used to be better at the game, Matt. No, the game. Yeah, not as good. Triple H. Well, yeah, the Rock's promo on Triple H. I am the game. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:07 The game. I am the best. I am the best. I have to smoke cigarettes to sound like this. That famous promo with Triple R with J.R. I am the game. J.R. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:27 I am the, that dastardly, that dastardly, triple H. I got to do the face, I'm sorry. Bell's policy is the real thing and J.R. is the fucking shit, but, well, that, Jezebel! Jezebel! He was so fucking, his shit was so fucking insane. Tactus Jack is dead. They killed him, King.
Starting point is 01:10:57 Puppies. How about Scott Hall? Oh, well, yeah. Hey, yo. Hey, yo. The bad guy, man. Well, you know, he started like, look at the clothes. I remember the first promo seeing his, like, promos and like, whatever that would have been.
Starting point is 01:11:14 But he was raising. But he was raising. 90, 89, 90, before he wrestled. Look at the clothes. Look at the goal. I'm a success. But the promo I always talk about is him in WCW. And this is fucking from the old podcast that I do.
Starting point is 01:11:34 We always, I love it. It's just, to me, this is Scott Hall. Brett Hart's in the ring. He's cutting a promo and Scott Hall and Kevin Nash come out and he goes, Hey, yo, Brett Hart, you like to talk about honor and dignity and doing the right thing. Big Kevin and I were in the back. And we just wanted to come out here and tell you that we don't care. And Kevin Dash is like, that's fucking funny.
Starting point is 01:12:05 And if Brad Hart's in the ring, I'm sure they probably, maybe they didn't get along. Brett was like, like, what do you say to that? Like, that's such a diffusing. He's a funny guy. Didn't we talk? We talked about that last time. He did. His shit.
Starting point is 01:12:20 Oh, my God. He's so, he's legitimately, like, that's one of those guys. Like, look at this six foot seven jock, big Scott Hall, like, back in the day. but he's also like got such a fucking sense of humor. Yeah. And then we'll sell for anyone like fucking sells like crazy. Uh, yeah, he's a great. Okay, so there's that.
Starting point is 01:12:41 And you do Scott Steiner? 33 times for, if I win 33.3% of the time, my freaks out there. No, no, can't do that. I just have to say, Kerrangle. Crangle. There it is. Yeah, that's it. Crangle, you come out here.
Starting point is 01:13:00 You want to. W.W.E. wanted me to take a steroid test. I said, pick me up in a limo with Triple H. Never heard about it again. Yeah. You got to mix it a little of Michigan accent. Kind of forget.
Starting point is 01:13:19 Make it sound like you're unsure what you're saying. Be really angry about it. Yeah, okay. That's a new one. Please, these are, this is fun. Give a flare? My flare sucks. My flare, my good,
Starting point is 01:13:33 pal Tommy Blacha, whom you need to have on the show, who was a writer with the, he doesn't like to say writer, but he replaced Vince Rousseau, my buddy Tommy, who's on WCW? No, on WWF. Oh, wow. WWE. I say WWF. Yeah, because, well, the story was Tommy wrote on late night with Conan O'Brien from the beginning, and at a certain point, a few years in, Vince McMahon was a guest. Then he says to Tommy, you know, Tommy goes and marks out and talks to him. And he goes, oh, we're always looking for writers, you know.
Starting point is 01:14:05 And Tommy's like, I don't know, not can I go write the fucking drama comedy writer or whatever. Then he was, he says like, oh, it's just laying awake at night, a few nights going, I got to do this. So he went off and did it for a year during like 99, 2000, like Attitude Era, came up with some really. Didn't he come up with one of the rocks lines? Oh, I don't know. The pour yourself a nice, tall glass. A glass of shut up juice.
Starting point is 01:14:29 Yeah. I don't know. I think so. Let me text him. But he, he, he, he, he's the, the EMT who's delivering the hand. He's responsible for him. With the blonde hair? With the blonde hair?
Starting point is 01:14:41 What? Yeah, he, he, like, kind of came up with, he did a lot of May Young shit. You know the guy who delivered hand? Delivered the hand. Yes. Wow. That's Tommy. And, uh, it's a hand.
Starting point is 01:14:54 Um, Tommy, he's one of my best pals. And he, he, he fucking, would tell me. he can say, see, you've got to get it so you can tell you this story. But I'll get to the Rick Flair. But he, anyway, he has a story about pitching Vince McMahon that it's like, look, you know, the Dudley boys are really cooking right now. You know, they're really, you know, they're heels and it's fucking going great. Look, I already talked to Bubba.
Starting point is 01:15:17 He says he can do it. I talked to May. And I think, you know, we'd really be able to protect her. And what the boys want to do is to, you know, a power bomb off the stage. We'll protect things. We'll have something soft and fucking boxes and look like she goes through a table. And he said that Vince McMahon would...
Starting point is 01:15:37 See, I'm talking at a turn. This is a secondhand story. But he said that Vince McMahon would be set up in a different room in the arena that was Vince's office. Right. He'd have his glasses there. He's reading.
Starting point is 01:15:48 Come on it, pal, you know, whatever. Not a good Vince. And he said, you'd pitch him something, and he would have one of two responses, which was... Get serious. you know, or write it up. There's two things like that.
Starting point is 01:16:03 And he says that he pitches this whole thing about putting May Young through, but, you know, like power bombing her off the stage. And he says, to the Vince, took his glasses down and said, It's got to be done. Went back to his work. But we, Tommy and I have this joke about Rick Flair back in the day, not knowing what a big town is because he was in the south all the times. He was the four horsemen, whoo!
Starting point is 01:16:25 That doesn't matter if it's no. York City, Los Angeles, California, or Raleigh, North Carolina, the four horsemen, you know. That's so good. Yeah. Tokyo, Japan. Woo! Chicago, Illinois. Or Richmond, Virginia.
Starting point is 01:16:48 That's my Rick. That is so good. Can you name some more towns? Yeah. You just named towns. Devinport, Iowa. Oh, wow. Toronto.
Starting point is 01:16:59 Yeah. Toronto, Canada. It doesn't matter, woo, if I'm in, if I'm even, if the foreman's in Canada. Montreal, Quebec. Dingman's Ferry, Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 01:17:10 Yeah, Digmansfairy, Pennsylvania. Aunt Ginnish. It doesn't matter if you're, Sponsome British Columbia. Woo. What an astute observation. Yeah, that's Tommy. He's like, oh, you ever notice it?
Starting point is 01:17:26 He fucking. Never did. Didn't know what a big town was at the end of it. It's so good. Yeah. Just it's always a small town at the end of it. Oh, I've kept you for far too long. This is amazing.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Such a pleasure always. No. Thank you. Thank you for always just coming in. Every cutaway to me is just me going, you look, you're doing the dynamite and Davey boy. You just look at like this and then you just have to cut in, bring the dog back. And I hope that at some point before I see you next,
Starting point is 01:17:56 I will talk to somebody else who you've impersonated about your impersonation about them. Yeah. There's that. You could get. Yeah. Maybe you'll speak to Scott Steiner. I am going to speak to Scott Steiner. See, don't mention that.
Starting point is 01:18:08 Yeah, because maybe I'll be at something. And Scott suddenly, Hey, you fat son of a bitch! You out of shape piece of shit! I don't sound like that. No, I know. I just started doing that. It's not even really impression.
Starting point is 01:18:21 I just yell really loud and sort of a pseudo-Michigan accent. Come here, you piece. If you can just nail he's fat. Have you seen that promo? Yes. Well, who is he talking about? Samoa Joe. Oh, he's fat.
Starting point is 01:18:33 He's fat. He's fat. That's it. Perfect. Yay. Done. We got a new impression. There it is.
Starting point is 01:18:38 Thank you. Thank you for that. I can't wait to go home and annoy my wife. Scott Steiner. We were watching the rumble and I was like, you know who this is? This is Scott Steiner's nephew and Rick, Rick Steiner's son. I don't know who those people. It was a Bronbreaker.
Starting point is 01:18:54 but what is his name is Brandon or something? His son. Okay. Bronson. Bronson. Reckinstein. Bronson Reckinstein. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:19:05 Oh, whatever. They're real. Yeah, they're real last name. Thank you. Thank you, pal. No, and I will, just because we have to, we're going to end it with the same way that we end every interview. Three things you're grateful for.
Starting point is 01:19:16 Well, Sassau, because gratitude is so near and dear to my heart. Cheers. And I, every day, my wife and I just kind of center our day. start our day off by going, man, I'm so grateful for this, this, and this. I am so grateful for my wife who truly saved my life. Without her, I don't know. I honestly don't know. I tell her a lot.
Starting point is 01:19:38 I do tell her all the time that she has a lot of patience because, you know, I'm a, you know, I don't know. She always says, oh, I got you. You were like a wild bear, you know, just like living alone for a long time. She would kind of shoe me out of rooms. Like, get, go, get out of here. Get away from the, why are you eating over the sink at 12? What are you doing down here?
Starting point is 01:20:02 You know, weird things. I'm very thankful for my wife. I'm very thankful for the new program that I'm working on and the wonderful people that I get to work with every day, truly on Georgie and Mandy's first marriage. Really, honestly. They don't do sitcoms like that anymore. No.
Starting point is 01:20:20 That's amazing. I mean, he's such a. Chuck Lurie. is the goat. He's the goat as far as, I mean, and he has all sorts of programs across media and stuff, and it's certainly not limited to half hour sitcoms, single or multi-cam. He does all sorts of stuff. But to work on a Chuck Laurie show with people who are just so grateful coming into work every day. And it's such a nice set. So I am like, and we all truly pinch ourselves every day. And, uh, last, last.
Starting point is 01:20:54 thing. De Niro face? That looks like a denierre. When I think, last thing I'm thankful for is, actually, this is truly what I'm actually, the last thing I'm truly grateful for is. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:21:09 Air one, Buffalo, Collie. You don't miss the chicken. No, not at all. Because they figured it out, something about the crispy batter. Stay away from fried foods. It's got Stainer will call you fat. But, yeah,
Starting point is 01:21:24 buffalo cauliflower. It's in Airwant, so it's probably $76. It's, you know, I like to cook. Give me some vegetables. I'll throw a fucking can of beans in there. I'm like my Italian parents. I'll get everybody dinner for $3.50. But every once in a while, you go buy Airwant,
Starting point is 01:21:42 you get $40 worth of fucking buffalo cauliflower, and then you regret it. We can do it for real now. Yeah. Yeah. Don't you worry about the hit on the head. Yeah. oh, I'm just, well, I'm just worried about where we go from here, Gene.
Starting point is 01:21:57 Is it the stratosphere? Is it the ionosphere? With the madness and the mania is one guiding force, we could go ahead and take the whole WWF. Thank you. Oh, my gosh. Thank you, pal. Ah, we could have talked for hours. We've had Will on once a year for the last three years, so three times in total.
Starting point is 01:22:26 But I feel like we need to change that to like two or three times a year. year. He's just amazing. I spend the whole interview just laughing or trying not to laugh. If you watch this on YouTube and they cut to a shot of me, it's just me like holding my face and like holding the laughter in. Love that guy. How good that flare by the way? He's so right. He was just randomly named some small town. He's listing off all the big cities and then just some random town mixed in with that and the British Bulldog. So good. We'll be in and so good. Snap, a screenshot. Let us know you're with us on this one and tag us. He's at Will Saso on Instagram. I'm at Chris Van Fleet. Grab those tickets for my two shows in Toronto this weekend.
Starting point is 01:23:10 At CVVTix.com, we've also got the tickets on sale for WrestleMania Week in Las Vegas, baby, April 17th, the Thursday night of WrestleMania Week. Those tickets are on sale right now as well. Susie Kassum had this great quote that I will leave you with. Doubt kills me. more dreams than failure ever will. So good. Be great. Be grateful, my friends. We will see you on the next one for some more insight. We've got Lex Lugar joining us on Thursday. We'll see you right back here for that one. Jim Rome takes on sports. Why? Because I have a job to do with rapid fire takes. So I don't want to hear from you lava pigs on this notion today. No idea what you're talking about. You're complaining more than you like to breathe.
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