LA ESCALOFRIANTE PREDICCIÓN DE LA OUIJA| Riggs
00:00 Very good days, tardes or noches. Beemnizabeth to a new chapter of insomio,
00:06 in where we going to narrate the most terrorificate experiences reales of the
00:10 audience. So, so you tryven. In this occasion, that comes to terrarn us,
00:17 not with stories of reptilians, but the, of macabras, is with us,
00:23 Riggs of Ricks, the Grimori of Ricks. How is Bromom? Herman, much
00:27 thank you to be here after after a after a a good a goodso like a
00:30 great of a good thank you no, I mean you know I'm a night of yeah,
00:36 I'm in the night of Ricks is a carac contending stories and that really, the real
00:41 to do you really, that's a story that you're that's a that's here that's
00:47 that's there where it is there that's reptile amarient biped biped
00:52 biped or a much many thousands, millions, I don't know, many people that
00:58 caused some these causes us and then I'm sure that's the objective principal. Yes,
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01:34 and the order of Camasots. And if all all all the year this year is all the new new
01:37 now. Oh, right. Very well. I felt very rare when said, I can say,
01:44 in my account that's YouTube and I said, I'm I'm doing to doion
01:47 to YouTube. Very very good my good my name. Oh yeah I'm to make
01:52 this question before that we we'd even of what's that's
01:55 the time. Okay. You, in any other have used that artifact? I don't, but in my
02:02 family did I'm a story about a about. Okay. Because this night we're
02:08 to talk of the table Ujha. The table maldita. Why don't have used
02:14 the table Uiha? No, has presented to an opportunity? In a moment,
02:18 I've told, if an friend in the school in the primary did the table
02:23 in a a piece of paper, with a plume. But the truth is that no passed nothing. Because we're just we're just, the fact of it, the
02:28 fact of it. And, and I've cared to that, something is that I don't put in the session. At the whole,
02:37 is the life to say, not it, probably. Probably. No, you know, but you're
02:41 curiousity, no? 100. Of course, I always, I've always have been, but,
02:44 it's been in two meet and greet with with two creators different, that has been at a point of
02:49 to occur one time not it not sure, and the the next that I'm
02:52 not about because I was talking about because I'm about it because I'm on the demision of podcast
02:58 that was the last time and I wanted to I'm going to get to participate in the session but for what I
03:04 can't so come around things. Sure. First the audience first. Yes, yes,
03:10 very. Very well, very well oh yeah, a very me says that you have you have
03:14 an experience, not you're not you but it's a familiar. Yes. Yes.
03:19 Yes. We can can't You can you tell? Of course, my my mom, my mom has a family
03:24 in Pachuka, in Real Del Monte. So, she me said, when I was a little, every time, every time,
03:31 every year, and my mother, with my mom and my tios, to pass there the vacations, no?
03:38 And the primos of my mother were more than some many and others some
03:43 many years. And she said that one night they were in a same in a
03:47 house very great, they were the kids little, for so to say, like I
03:50 would be in the six and the three years, probably and them my mom. They were in
03:55 a camera playing with his mukees, and in the camera of front, they were those
04:01 those 13 and the 15, 16, 16, and one of of them saw a
04:06 one of a stah and it was a scene because it was the other the other the other,
04:12 the other, the other, the and they're the And they started to And the truth is that the kids
04:17 didn't even they put attention. So, like, it's like they're that's,
04:19 I'm that she's she said, she was, she was with my mom and she he took him
04:27 and they're so, but so, so she was like, she was sat down in the
04:32 center of the camera, and she went to backals and she she was like,
04:37 reclamandoly to the other people. Like, like they had done like, they'd
04:41 have done, they were because they're in the So, literally, she fell to the camera. So she was She came to
04:46 So, she puttow, but they were they were, they were, they were, those other kids, and his
04:54 primos were and they said, no, it's that we're you're you're doing quite, but the greats,
05:01 they were, they're, they were, they were, they were they went, so, so, they were,
05:06 so, they they were, and then, he's, he asked, my mom, to, to,
05:11 the, to, the, , they said, why they went, and yeah, no they're
05:13 saying, and they said, and they said, and they said, it's that, when we were, when we were we said,
05:21 we were the signal of that we had we've contacted something, we've been it's a so, like, no,
05:27 no, it was, it was a form, but that something, that was, we were, we were,
05:33 we were in front, not you didn't, the other people, you, it was, and that was,
05:38 when we, when we were, the signal, when we were, the signal, there was something was when you
05:43 were when you were the so we're going to we've got to we've got to do you know, and we're there in real
05:49 of the mountain, there's there's like with that family, someone took an encounter
05:54 with the murder, like, with the parka, in the the people,
05:58 so it's like they're kind of that's, this type of that's, something that my mom in the city
06:07 that's the only experience paranormal that had been for the Uiha indirectly. I've documented
06:10 much of, not of the wija, but of things that are around, because when one's the stories, or the experiences propious and of people near, of people, of the audience, you start, you
06:25 start, you're, and you're some things that, that me at the beginning, me, cause in a reason, I was to ask them to ask them much, that one is, the
06:39 actually, muchissimo, but to understand exactly what is what is what he does the
06:46 table, because in reality, no, you know, this of the land of the place,
06:52 blah, blah, and all this. And all me say something, that's something,
06:56 and I still have, a person that I want to ask me, is a instrument,
07:02 not, it's an object to the thing is an object But it's an object that you know you're
07:07 to know that's to be able to use. Aser that's a reference to, for example, a ballon
07:14 of football or a cuth is to a certain point errone. If I you,
07:20 I think you think there there's things turbias around of that and that if you know
07:26 you put with a place of the is something, but it's but it's certain.
07:33 Sure. Me-Tient. For the disconcement that is. Exactly. around to? A me made
07:37 many questions that I think they're very interesting for example it's a commercialized much the
07:43 the word and the context of the word, for the supposed that no is beneficial in
07:50 any any for the unlaw for the question, you're so you do you
07:55 100% but you think you think the worded I'm the I think a man who
08:02 I've practiced a bruchery in Chile many many years and he he said that these
08:08 the demons, we're going to the entities oscuras, normally not they're not they're in Spanish.
08:13 And, he had to study various other languages like Arameo, how is Hebrew,
08:20 even a little like of Sumerio, the pockisimian what pockisim that's a would be more easy
08:28 to contactar to some in a language, more than in English. I would I'd say. For example.
08:34 For example. But, But in the table, you're not you're contacting with Demondos that's
08:41 not? The question is this what is what is rare. The table has no has a
08:47 language. The entities are that they are the language. So, so to
08:52 to know, it's like rare, no? Sure. That's, for example, it's a
08:57 question that there's a question I know, you know, you know, that's something,
09:01 but not about the Spanish? Or, or really exists that barrier
09:04 between she and we're going to talk to talk to talk about all the
09:08 language that's that I'm I'm a question if you do you say you
09:13 say you you're you're a that's that's that I'm that
09:19 I'm that I me intrigue much because I think there there are
09:24 there there there can't some but there there
09:29 there there there's there I'm know I know But we're doing what we should have weiram.
09:37 Exactly. With that is that we're doing, is that I'm read two books, if you want. But I what I consider is that that table, as well, there's a lot of much respect. And with much resale of the information that you're doing.
09:53 Yes, 100%. Because it's, it's a, I mean, what I said to say, I was the time, was the, to have a better, correct me. No, no, I, what I see a little bit of it. but you know, because I've never I've never seen one in person, a real,
10:08 I said, I think someone has a paper, but it's a table, I never have seen. I think, I think, if you have been in your house,
10:16 so, at least that has occurred something, as one of the stories that I've been one of the stories that I'm trying, but all of course,
10:22 if I'm going to go to the pharmacy and I'm trying and I think I'm here, I think, I'm not that would be that we'll,
10:29 that we're, the ritual of the initial, we're saying. of the fact you'll say a thing
10:35 as a video in Spotify and all we're going to put here some images of a
10:42 photographs that I took no no I don't not I'll not
10:47 not not to know but we're going to get to get
10:50 or it maybe when they're being this and if it's so it
10:54 there there's there there's in the channel her on
10:57 podcast paranormal where where there various objects super interesting there were
11:04 one, well, various, that me were really were a collection of wichas.
11:09 Okay. And there one of these wichas that pesable a chor. And I to say,
11:16 what on? I'm not I'm not I'm saying that that he adds more power or something
11:21 but I think we're we're we're doing the context. For that
11:26 so I know the of the to be everything you're to have to
11:29 care because If you know, not you're not going to and serran no, and also the if you think you think you think you're going to
11:34 say it's to be a lot of you're going to because if not, you're going to commit a grave, grave error. And in this
11:41 case, for example, the, that would be doing as, well, no, no, would be doing,
11:47 is, that's the thing, the, that's the thing, the, the, the,
11:52 the, the, the, the sacerdote, no-s- the church satanica in Guarararah,
11:59 Okay. He did a ritual in a pantheon with various, like the most of the most, the most of the most high power that were the Republic of Mexican,
12:10 Latin America, States, they were doing a circle gigantic around a tomb in specific of a saint. Okay.
12:18 With bells black, blah, blah, blah. Invocar on a demonio. And then they took the lapida, they were
12:24 and over the lapida, construed a table Uiha. Wow. And I was like, like, oh,le.
12:35 How do you know, how do you see that I know how much that's not, but but, but, but, but, I don't know, the piece is marmol, no, it's like, so, like, very impressionate. The story that
12:50 there's there that, animals that they've got there's a liquid vital, a ritual, belas negas, in a pantheon, these, these people on the tomb of a saint. And with that
13:00 construed a table Uiha. So, like, wow. I think it's of much respect. And I think with the stories
13:08 we'll see. We're going to make sure. Because right I'm doing much more question. Adelante.
13:15 Quere's start with the stories or you start with the stories? Let me come to
13:22 and you start. Adelante, me, I'm sure. The first story that there's
13:26 And many, justly, I think it has something to be this, and I'm surged at the when the law really you're really, you know, because one of the thing is what we're what we're going to, and other thing is what's the reality occurred.
13:37 Sure. This story, I mean a little Carolina, this occurred in Venezuela for there, the verano of 2009. She had 14 years.
13:46 She said, she'd go to go to the summer to do his family completely, a very, very Latino-American, the question,
13:56 And she was very fanatica of the questions of terror, the movies of terror, but even, I never had done no, I had never had even even experiences
14:06 paranormal, and curiously, the house was very great, but gigantic, almost, a mansion in where it occurs
14:13 this, no? So, she says that, in a certain manner, impregn-
14:18 or contagio to his other primos because of the things of the time, she said,
14:23 the time, in the house of her her abuela, he'll go his DVDs, the exorcist, of the
14:30 movies classic, no? Levering a point of the time, pasted a few days,
14:35 maybe a couple of some time, that the people are to have to get the cosquita of,
14:39 oh, and if we do we we're just, and she was a fanatica of the movies of
14:45 terror, but not she had to be not ever but the prime
14:48 great, that's him he's called Alejandro, he's don't
14:51 don't see to get the table wheeha to the place to the people. So, like, that's like not they really, until that night
14:58 that's a time. So, we're going to go to, weh, weh, weh. Weh,
15:05 apart, they were adolescents, all, all. All right, all. And from, there's all right.
15:09 And then, they're a house, enormous. Obviously, there were many, many of the
15:14 other of the other of the conversations, neither were, they're, they're, like, the laces,
15:20 the lampars, the, lampas, the lampars, were six primos, they put in a and they're not that night,
15:26 no contact a thing, they're saying that what they used like a puntero was a tequila of the cabalitos no,
15:34 no, he moved, also what he said, because no he's just he's just just didn't
15:38 do it, simply not something did not come to be a problem, others were all over,
15:43 oh, those tonteries, let me, let's do do this the day the next like the
15:48 prime major was more interested in to make contact than the same Carolina that was the
15:54 fanatica of the terror then he he's he said he's we're a little
15:58 and it's he's going to sound a little but it's put to end to investigate
16:04 being more more people so they're like in the movies
16:08 how it they're that how were that he was all that all this day
16:13 all this day passed watching movies of the work they're
16:16 not no book no The internet as well, still not was like today. No existian
16:22 our channels. Then says, well, in the movies, where I can and say, I see that
16:28 we're doing the night to the other people, we're going to do you again, but since
16:33 the primos more chiquot. Only us, only us, round them around the fours and
16:38 the 16, more or men, they're they're they're in this occasion, put them
16:43 various bells around, and they they're they're to use, and in
16:48 this occasion if you're in contact. He's to move after a time the caballito,
16:54 the basso tequilao still not, no, no, I was, not,
17:00 I was, I was not even thought about the way, but just was moving.
17:04 And in that Alejandro says, if you are not a signal. And at the second,
17:09 in the bano of the room of the room, begin three
17:13 three steps from the interior of the bathroom and obviously no there's
17:17 he said before the the second voice of the voiceiferate for that's if you're you're
17:25 doing that that's to make to get to the fourth goal no occurro he's
17:31 okay if there's okay if they're they're they're gonna ask you know things that you know
17:38 something that I'm going to get to when I'm to make one of them the color are my
17:43 clothes like to see, babosad of the boys were just going until one of the one of the
17:51 only one is a okay to you would be in a current of air and he came to be
17:57 a ball the bell and at the second and all the so not it not so it's almost
18:05 to the door of the room as like if someone he would have done
18:07 with a hand or he they'd be they're going to and then and then also, they're
18:14 to hear like a voice provenient of the that's not a very good
18:18 that's but it's there's a voice that not of the familyaries.
18:23 Alejandro see the the session as as it quickly quickly they
18:28 get the table and literally they're the table and every everyone
18:33 to go to so they're even before before to go to the
18:38 cell and they start to be a movie of a
18:43 and according they had kept because Alejandro they said I'm so you're not
18:47 don't be so no matter no the problem is that the problem is that after
18:53 the day they're to know first that that Alejandro act was different it was
18:59 like if was a person physically physically was he but act was
19:03 different he was he was like he was distant about about
19:07 he normally not about things even even even something that would not be a adolescent.
19:15 I'll know, of the apocalypse I mean, he said, he said, I mean, he said about some of the
19:23 thing that they not were not the, at least not the children, well, you know, of that you
19:29 know, that they're not even have been the Bible, I mean, I mean, I don't know,
19:33 I'm like, it's the quater was the problemista of the family. Then they said,
19:37 nah, the more they're not, they're going to pass the years and
19:41 they're not so they he'd It still with this attitude, and the The worst was that the other kids, the other kids also began to have experiences
19:53 strange. He said that they were sitting in some part of the house and heard and they'd say to a man in his ear. And they'd be a nobody. All.
20:03 Also, they'd beading sombers in the house, so they were seeing the TV or something and they'd bea a sombre to pass, and they'd no idea. Incluso,
20:10 They'd look at the abutations to be some of the primos doing it and they're
20:14 not there and they're to start and then to be able the doors of the apartments of the
20:20 abutations and no there's there were there's there's there and the
20:26 most inexplicable was that the redaders in the night the
20:30 ragaders of the bagers of they're going to be and it's it could
20:34 be some plomer to be well it's start to start to start
20:38 like like get about was the key abiered like if
20:42 someone it had been a one of the people said that they were
20:47 that they're to do you but in but in certain you're just a start of course, they're just like that's we're just
21:08 yeah yeah back to you know, yeah, it's just a lot of because aparted He says, Carolina, a me is to pass this and this, and this, and this. And he said one of the
21:14 primos, a me too, and the other to me too. And to all of they were passing and then they were to do it. And Alejando,
21:19 the only that was he was doing, but not so he did it a bit of a time, he said, he, he,
21:26 did the car, no, it was a real-a-a- he was a he said, to them, you know, to me,
21:33 I've seen a voice that me has been, and me he said, that if we're not we're
21:37 we're going to to be to be able. That neither we don't even we're even we're not even
21:42 we're in those kids when the kids are they put in a little a little a little
21:49 a little a little a little a little we're saying, we're saying because they're
21:55 not to because the parents and the mother, the wife, the daughter of the
21:59 house are they're they're no, they're going to we're going to castigarch and we
22:03 we're we're still the rest of the rest of the verano. What we're
22:08 what we what we do we do. We're going to again the session. Because we have to we need to start to this, so, we're going to do. The worst we can't do
22:16 is to get us as we're going to do this night. It's all right in the same room, they're in the same and the same thing.
22:32 It's a lot of coherent, he's supposed hostile. And, and while this occurred, Alejandro,
22:39 the only that'sier to be in a rizal a rizalona. Quenta Carolina that the
22:44 voice and the and the risa that was in the last time, was the voice of a woman,
22:51 being that he had a 16 years, oh, I'd get to start the voice,
22:54 but you know the voice still of a voice rasposa, aguardientosa, as we've seen here in Mexico,
23:01 like of someone that someone that that fuma a He was... But these...
23:05 This is not going to go to But yeah no We're saying, no-vamos. They're not... They're not... And you're not going to Go ahead. And they're going to
23:11 Go ahead of this. SIGING... They're not going. And in one of those it's... ...se abre the door but it's able the door.
23:19 They're open the door. They're spant. Like, yeah, they're... At the more, not were the grand thing, but...
23:25 Yeah, they're... ...sehapen the door. ...theirop... ...theirteenth... ...and turn... ...and... ...and...
23:30 ...and... They goren to the door to create to and not be opened the door. They're not going to be in a window. Because they're in the plant-bara. We're going to go to the window. The window, also, no, it wasn't any type of
23:41 those that's that you'd want to open. And, they could open. Between all, they could not have been able to be. Then, they said, we need to pay the help of the adults. They're going to get in the door, to burr-desperated.
23:52 Even says that one of the Tios had to romper, because with all and the key, no abria. rompe the and in when they're in a
24:01 house and we're the umo of the belles that's the energy
24:06 of the environment and it's to get to get to the house that was a normal
24:12 that's that's the sensation that they had all the family was like when when
24:19 you're when you there's a lot of a lot that's a cold that's a lot
24:25 that's a lot that's all the house. And, I mean, it was, it was a very far, but it was normal. It was, it said that a cold, sofocant, that no could even respirate and they'd want to vomit. It was something that even the adults that not
24:41 knew that was going to be able to get coming to the house. Tant to see anything, that's not saying nothing, without ever, the family entire, that were around of 20 people, salerone, out of the house, in in the night. Salen
24:56 corriending, they're the kids and the most little even, even they're not saying
25:02 to get them and they're having to their kids and the not the not the not the
25:11 one of the times he was a carolina and he was that you're you're
25:15 you're you're your and it's you're it and it's
25:20 the most impactant of this experience was that in the house there was a people
25:27 that was in a contra-luss and there was a lot of the family out of the not like when when it was
25:36 like if stuivian like if were all destroying all, it was that they were
25:41 that they were things that rompian that rompian that were a complete disaster in the
25:47 house they're they're they're saying they're to call the sacerdote
25:52 is that the sacerote not is to be right. It had to be until morning. It was a night horrible, the way that happened. At final, they were some good hours out there, until they saw that the thing was calmed out. Entering to the house, and, at least
26:07 of all what they heard, all of the nothing, rotto, no crystal, or no-web, all was, all about, all of the little disaster that had in the room where they had jubed, that were in the vows that were in the vows, and all over, and all of this, but all the other, like,
26:21 like, they said, well, that's a good that's a good they're
26:25 totally, Tontament they're not they're not even nobody knew, but it
26:32 there's about that the morning there was a carlopar out of
26:37 the house and and it was a but apart it was
26:44 the caskos of the car not trotando so despatch and like
26:47 a predator and the cadenas, arastrances on the pierre, the stender of
26:52 the road of the house. And many of the chikos were at a point of a lot of the last year
26:58 they said, no, not they're not so much it's the demonio that's that they're
27:01 not even they're not even to be able. There's what they're doing with alexandro
27:07 because that last night alexandro yeah not was alexandro he, I was
27:12 with a voice that was she was even in an obviously obviously
27:16 no know Carolina if is a a new but Balbucea
27:19 or she maybe was a old bit of a bit of he said things in other
27:24 idiomabba was like in a bit of a lot of the only the only
27:29 that was the family was encerrable in a house with all the images religious
27:35 that could obtain figures stampi truses blah blah blah blah and there
27:41 they were all the night and all the night he was he was he
27:43 was that he I got the Culpada counter the wall the door and the
27:49 and so they're in the morning the next the first the adultos they're not doing
27:55 not even nobody nobody and one of the family is going to look to the
28:00 people while they're doing the time they're sitting at the
28:04 question that they're in absolute there's there's there's he's a little
28:11 she's a gulfe it's you've been seen those videos where they're doing desalojos that tumble the doors
28:17 with a block so, in one of the of the doors of the bayon of a bit of a sudden, that was even that was too
28:26 that was a man, it was a thing, it was something really reallyably not destroes the door. They obviously
28:33 brinked, they were, they were the buses that they were there and they're on the mess with much
28:39 fear, abran the door of the door of the bay and other another. No,
28:44 there He got the Sacerdote Yeah I saw what He said He said he He said he
28:52 He said he was He was a He was a guy He was 16 A year Between six People, The guy,
28:57 The father He got around And the six Tovure Arrasras of the house And one When they were
29:03 Toes They said that when they They were In the car To get to the Cendero, the Porte'n't He was able
29:12 The porto no he was he was retinient something a natural, a force supernatural
29:17 to be able to make sure, the sacerote went overando in all this trajectory, or he put to open the
29:25 carro, the carrow and they're going to the church, and it and the
29:29 rest of the winter was terrible because during all the year
29:33 Alejandro no he's in the house. He wanted she
29:37 in the church in a kind of a sort of of the day of
29:43 today, that is more or less or my age, well, my age,
29:47 a bit of my age, a time, not they've never that's not the
29:52 time. He's going to know. Because during a month they
29:55 didn't know that the time, and in the house, the
29:59 activity paranormal cess salvo a and was, and it was that
30:04 they were and they they're all all and different moments
30:08 of day of the cell the cell with people
30:11 with people, and they'd a sombra to be on the stairs, but it was a
30:16 superably high, of a small, of maybe three meters of the height, that even
30:21 was to encorvary when I went to the and his and his back and the back after
30:26 the piece. And it saw, it was a summer three-dimensional, because it was a
30:32 not a not a a sombra, like a a sombra like a normal, it was a,
30:36 a, a, a, a, a, was a, and, He was back
30:39 the escalar and when the plant and then it's disvanesia.
30:44 So, it was all the month they're that this took a question with
30:47 alexandro when he goes to he goes and he and they asked the primus
30:54 oh yeah how you're what you did you did he's not he's not
30:59 he he's not the other the last he has the night that
31:03 he did the night that he doesn't the question that's functioned, no remember the second
31:10 session, no record what occurred that was the night, no record what happened when he was when he was
31:14 when he was the he said, when he took the camisetta to get to back to
31:19 the night in the house, was full the heartaches that's that today
31:25 of today has to the day of those are the only vestigues or the unique wheyes that happened
31:32 not, but there's those two elements that comprue in the veracity. The cicatrices in the body of Alejandro, that is an adult
31:39 and the sombra that still behind the escalars of the house of the abel. You know, you know, when you can't hear the caboing with the cadences? That's, I mean... How many times I've heard of that? Or the carroach, no? That's the caroge of the murder.
31:58 Yeah. So, that's the is the diablo. Yes. As well. Wow. What a potent history. You know, that no is, this not is like the WhatsApp, I go, the Messenger, that's Ceres a session and yeah.
32:10 Yeah. Apart, no, I remember if I'm going to do I'm going to that I'm going to a Wiham not, for example,
32:16 that I'm like you know, you know what's to say that's you, they're like to mark a chance, and like you can
32:21 answer a good person like you, you can't to get to someone in the reclusory, or an extortionator or
32:28 something, I don't remember who I'm who said, but it's a very good analogy. Sure,
32:32 because you know, because you know, that's you're asking, and you if you're You're not, you're
32:35 who you're you know, so, I mean, you know, or you know, or you're,
32:38 or you're, me to come it's, this story is called the message of the Uyja and it's a
32:45 story anonym we're she's, this chica that's no no no says some number
32:51 but some of some some of some important, and not that's a
32:59 finales of the Specifically to his Primo, that we're to put to know Daniel, he was
33:10 super, super, very, with Daniel. The family had a panadery. So,
33:17 she, she, she was a very young, in that panadery. And Daniel
33:22 also, he, he, went to to work there in the panadery family.
33:27 Then, then, they were there, the primos, convivient, and passing her
33:30 super Daniel, who was a man of the things of the stories, etc.,
33:39 a day he got to the panedry with a table wija. And the really
33:44 says that the same that's the other story, for the time, for the
33:50 lack of this access that's that the information that you know,
33:56 it's proviened and you're you're and you know, that's
34:00 not, that that's not, that's There is like an skepticism and at the time a curiosity of a curiousity of to know if really can get to move.
34:10 So, well, he said, Daniel, how does if we use? And she said, like, okay. And he was used in a moment.
34:27 But then, when we did a point of that the table, the planchette, really was moved and I'm immediately
34:35 like enamored of this table and maraud of this object and the
34:43 panaderos then obviously they gave curiosity see to these men of the t'em
34:49 and they're like they're like they they're like they're they're naturally and then
34:55 they're and then they're let's let's let's let's let's
35:00 the one-a-one started uners and they were doing and they were doing a little to
35:06 the table was moving first they thought that the other panadero was being
35:12 he was that he was that was he had given to the table was he had made a
35:19 trampa but with the time they were in the table was made he was
35:25 he had this ritual very established where there said there was
35:28 a session and they name of the entity or person. And then they'll start another type of questions. Yes. At least, Daniel was
35:38 quite well-instrued about how is utilized a tabla wihra. The panaders began to have too much curiosity. They're going
35:50 to continue utilizing it. For one the thing of that that never never is when you
35:57 learn to use it, when you learn to contact to certain entities in specific. Aprendes
36:04 to do the questions and understand the responses? Well, basically you can't ask what you
36:10 want to you want to the panaders they said, hey, Daniel, how you know,
36:19 how does if you know we'retes the table? Or we're to
36:23 the house of one of us because fiatate that in this house
36:27 there a patio. And in the part of the back of the apartment, a lot of a lot of a quartet of a room, but that's not used for nothing. No, it's a bodega, no is an area of lavado, simply
36:40 is a space, we can't put there a mess, a lot of a lot of years, we can't do a little more serious. And Daniel, clear, the two options me are present. And literally, in
36:54 that patio, in that quarter of lamina they were these panaders a lot of these
36:59 and they're having learned various things that he had said he did he's he said
37:06 for example we've heard much about that they they're in circle yeah
37:13 Daniels said that that's not necessary so they need three bells
37:18 negras three bellas never in form of a triangle then
37:25 then the Uiha and then then the ritual and so they were also also
37:33 Daniel used the whija in his house but not in his house he was
37:41 front to his and the first that was the one of this table
37:46 occurred something something there was there there was a park there was
37:52 there were the He said, about the table. The friends said, a little, this chico,
38:01 Daniel, he's got the table, he'll his belles, and they're and they're and the table no,
38:11 he was, it was, like if not was going like, these guys were like, this should be
38:22 a drama, but of a sudden, then, obviously, while the bellas they were,
38:29 and he like, like he thought that he was a way, like a little that they were a
38:40 lot of the people, but they were, and they and the table and the plan chat fell
38:46 they were going. But very very very. And these kids were running. Because
38:53 they did know that nobody, nobody had talked the table. Dechchch those
38:57 hands were on they had alighed when they were the
39:00 and they went to and this he saw he did the table the table, he went to
39:13 his house and he put down to his bed, he cost to to do but
39:20 he was he was he was to have had to have pesadillas he
39:24 was was like thinking in these things. He said that was very rare and, de-pronto, he wasperted. It was
39:32 yeah at the midnight, she stiro, he got the whiffa from the, of the camera. Well, this is something that also that many people know and that is
39:42 important to mention. The table wija no needs to be used to be two or more people. I'm justed. I'm used. I said, I'm used. Could be used to be used by one one one single person. I don't know, you
39:53 know, you know, you know, if you knowves. And, you know, So he simply had like a coroner, he put the table there on the table, he was on the camera,
40:04 and he was to use her. And then immediately the planchette was he started to move. And he was in circles
40:14 and the first question that he did, thinking in this of using, to use,
40:21 to use, to play, what was what was he asked, he asked, do you want me?
40:28 and the planchette so immediately to the but he had realized this question because this question has a
40:39 question has a question to play with me you can't talk about a communication with me but also maybe
40:47 could be if that that's entity wants to with the person to use so
40:53 not he didn't he was so she put it the head. Cere the session.
41:00 I'll go to guard the table. He said that that addiction that you had a man,
41:08 was it was more big. Of the actually, to give us to give the pan. And when
41:14 they went in the caminetita, Daniel had the table. And yet had
41:19 selected, some the different, some they were doing the time,
41:24 and they were doing the you. Separated here. Separate. They were, they'd, they'd, goll'd, zero vel, zero things, they'd, put down the table. Lista? Yeah, we'll have to open session, boom.
41:39 And they'd ask them to ask them to questions. And they'd, and they'd and they were. And the paddermen the table, present me the table, present me the table, let's, come, ben, come, ben. And so, yeah, so.
41:51 And so, yeah, she'd be pass One day she also she also she's victim
41:56 of this curiosity insatiable and he took the table and she he was
42:02 to get to his house when he was obviously his friend and he said to
42:08 her women want to talk to me and the her
42:14 and the hermann that had heard the stories that she
42:17 he had the stories that told him the prime Daniel said,
42:21 they said, we, we're going to use them. So these these chicas
42:25 can use the table when when of the door to the mom and it
42:34 says that they had a face to have a face, see what they're
42:39 what they're doing and they're not to but has a
42:45 moment I've a sombra, that advanced for the passio
42:52 and he went to my room. And this no can't be. Camine,
43:01 me I'm in my room and the sombra was standing to the
43:06 space. It was being and then then it's and then she that had
43:16 the table there went to the table and she our she,
43:22 our that she He asked, You know what was that that was that I was that I was? What was I?
43:35 Very, and who are you? I'm the demon. In that moment the mom was made elated, looking this
43:52 that was and he said, Preguntale if is going to go to see here? If I'm
44:05 to go back to? You can't respond to my mom has asked? The
44:12 will be to look. The mom simply I'm and she went and said that
44:23 she's like you don't have to have and rapidly they're
44:27 to start the session but the day the panaders she
44:33 she again again again again again with that this
44:37 same curiosity in in whatever in a space
44:41 at the the middle of the day, other again, using it, using it, and then the panaders were in this
44:52 place, and they said to Daniel, you're going to go to this night. I'm going to try it, but
45:03 no I think. You're going to be with me. Okay. They're these people, they're
45:12 put their bells in triangle, and they started to ask them, and the table
45:19 no was moved nothing what what's there there's there's
45:32 there's there's there's there nothing why don't you don't
45:41 how we can't how we're to help you're to see you always
46:14 you're you never you and they put down you that that night
46:20 that they're they're the table The next, the Primo gets to to work at
46:26 the panedry and the panaderos are very with him. And they say, you know,
46:31 what, he said, you know, what's very rare. He'd to start to ask,
46:37 but well, so, so, we know, wehah. And Daniel he was so bad.
46:46 Yes, he's altero. Why? Why did that? Because the table said that
46:52 said that he wanted to be of that we we'd be that we're quamando the table
46:58 but that has nothing to do you know what they're not they're not they're you know
47:06 you can buy another and literally to the days Daniel he bought
47:13 a table so then so this this this she's
47:20 that we let us put the name Julietta says that he was
47:25 a primro. He had the table, but no I was about. The table new. Then they went
47:34 to reparting the pan, he saw the the tree, and she was the he said, and he said,
47:41 you know, you're that we want to ask us the question? And I want to
47:53 you know to be respond to the truth I'm okay. We've
48:00 asked many things to the table. But you you'd to
48:05 you'd to ask to ask you When you're going to You know, you're You know,
48:17 you know, yes, like all, I said, and the Tala me said that's the my murder
48:32 is very very soon, that I'm that I'm a young. Julieta he said, well,
48:44 no, we don't have a way to to prove, that is certain what he
48:49 respond, clear. Some days after, they were there doing a work in the panadery
49:01 and he he said to her brome bromneando you did you know you did you know
49:12 today is Marches 13 we have we have we're gonna to have to do yougha mm sure
49:21 sure he said he he said just that he'll let's that was the last
49:34 that she she I was to Daniel. At the day next she went and Daniel
49:42 was to work to do you did he's very rare her his papa
49:48 her to reparting the pan and when they went after
49:53 after had reparted the pan she she not she
49:58 she he was rather that he was but when he
50:02 he went he in the panadery to her mom that was a
50:09 time, and a part of that all of the moment all was chaos.
50:14 They were to the hospital for the morning, the parents of Daniel
50:20 with Daniel and and then he was he
50:26 was he went to the hospital he did
50:29 the analysis and he was he was rapidissimo
50:35 what what said the medical is that they pneumonia. She said, how is possible.
50:44 If literally, I was a day before, I worked with him a day before, conversed a day before,
50:53 how it could be the people say that has no monia? It has no, it has no, but that was what
50:59 what happened. He's died. And there he had that phrase of Daniel, because the
51:07 table had said, that he was to fallyceer probably. The life had to continue to
51:14 her course and she had to continue working. And all this was super doloroso,
51:20 super doloros. But there was something that she is even more terrible that has
51:27 been to have been of the death of his friend Daniel,
51:31 announced by the Uiha. Recurras that there was that was a person
51:36 that said, that had to That same entity that had said that came they'd say,
51:43 yes. The panaders was they were they were a bit of them and he said, and he said,
51:54 pardon, but I have to tell you to tell you before, before that Daniel
52:01 falleceira, in one of the many of many times that we had to use the
52:07 table and that Daniel not was there, we we've we've
52:14 we're we're and the table was a thing it's like you
52:24 respond the same the same entity yeah we don't we we've got
52:29 we we're we're we're we but but it was
52:34 like it was a interference and it's moving rather
52:38 to other other other different and he he
52:42 He came to letterer, without a question. And, He said, No, I'm any spirit. I'm a chico, like him. A chico
52:57 that was with the whiha before you. A man who a time back. It was the table to that he left he went
53:11 to help it, kemen the table. Kemen it now. And And you know what? No, we'll quam most the table
53:23 in that moment. The quimamos time after, but we've continued playing. And I think that now
53:36 there's another spirit that's about in the table. Daniel. What horrible story. Horrible
53:48 for what the pasto. Because that's one of the doubts that me I'm kept with those
53:54 stories. So, you can contacter entities oscuras and also spirits of persons
54:00 that were that's the plan terranal. No see. And it's
54:05 like, this, I'm a complex. It's, but, but basically what's
54:10 me makes very interesting is that before Daniel, existio in a moment,
54:15 a conversation of a kid, that was that was that were that they were using,
54:22 and that they were to be to get to Daniel. Yes. And so they're
54:27 they're and now is like Daniel, not admitting that kemen the table
54:32 because if no someone else is going to do you know this like this the years from the time
54:39 from where is he yeah, what great story, oh, so, what interesting
54:44 but what that's interesting, but that's this story that you're talking about connect with the next thing that I'm
54:51 that made in many of the man peduda and that even and that even even
54:54 even to question me to me what I did at the issue of the episode of
54:58 if the table is a this story this story is the title the tabla so simply and the manned lusma this story not
55:11 he occurred to her directly but she's not that he had took when she was a little this year has more she is major in that moment was a in a new and the tio that protagonist is this history was
55:25 so uh so so she conviviered a time but But she was relatively Young. He never even even even even even even thought
55:31 to be here. And was just this Tio who he told a story referring to the Uiha
55:37 that he she was she was very she when he was when he was a adulto
55:45 young in his people were in a people of a friend very
55:51 very dear that was a mano even even this child he was in the
55:56 house with his and with the mom of the tio, I mean, with the tia-abuela. Casse it. Almost,
56:02 it was like, it was like like it. It was like to be a young, so they'd to get to
56:09 get a hueja. If you see, all the stories, comvices in the little.
56:11 They say the coquillita and they can get in the whiffa. Consiggin the wika, and the
56:17 friend says, but not we can't do we can't do you in the house or we're
56:22 to get a ideal to be a wheeha? What you suggest? And the Tio said, we're going to go to
56:30 the cemetery of the public. Van, they're in the cemetery they're going those little three vellas
56:38 they're on a lapid at azar that they were in the room more that's the pantheon
56:46 for that not those were to be the bellator. They're put in a question they're not
56:51 they've got not in an initial or they're they're they're they're they're
56:55 they're just themselves, they were that they were moving the planchette. They were they were doing
57:00 and they were saying those grosseries messages like obsenos they're saying they were doing.
57:07 But in that of this, they're a bit of the mends that they're at levita
57:14 what they describe like a sphere of a light black. A sphere
57:20 not very more small more small than a more little than a ballon. What you
57:25 15 centimeters of diameter, like, the size of a kind of a kind of and it's not very, but they were
57:32 clearly because they were completely obscured, a pantheon in a public, and a year, and the
57:37 night, obviously this resplandecea much and illuminate and itulminable a lot, the stumbas
57:43 and the cemetery. And this thing, of a only so it limited to get to
57:47 levita in the but it so it went to to them and they very
57:51 and they they're in shock because obviously this occurred in a time in a
57:57 time in a there's no idea no idea no way more than that's overnatural
58:02 this this sphere blank still and and the he said the
58:08 he said when they're they're they're they're they're in a wind
58:13 gelid but so not frio gelid so like when when you
58:18 these these congelators of carniceria so And what was not It was not
58:21 because they were in Guerrero. A Viento a lot of all the bells and, and also he stumba
58:28 the table. And they they gave a scalofry not of not of a fear, but of a
58:37 fear that literally, they've got to the call it, the caled to the guesos.
58:42 They, all are young, and to see this not had an explanation and what
58:46 had to do, the effect physical that had to have to have Edge
58:49 they're they're going to run to jump to walk into their car and they're have taken
58:54 the l enhances and the table even早 they're not getting they're you're going to
58:59 they're they're going to the time who has they're a point and what you think
59:06 you're down the table the table the table and the nemendid the
59:12 the same let's the same belas that they're they're So, no, there was a way that someone that was who had been
59:20 a bit of them, would have gotten before they'd have come to do it. It was impossible. It was impossible because of a part of it. They were going
59:27 as a woman that was in position like to play over the camera with the planchette and with the bells andcendid on the camera.
59:40 They obviously are even they're to start, without to be, without to be being, They're going to And the only
59:50 that occurs to do in this moment, apagin the bells, they're in the water, and the table,
59:56 they're to go ahead, and they're going to get a night, maybe a maybe a time,
01:00:00 and they're going, they're a lot of the house to try to do it in a
01:00:05 container of those of large they're they're going to the house because
01:00:11 you're they're there there and they're they're they're they're
01:00:15 they're They're going to to be a very they're in
01:00:20 the and then the morning when they're when they're the new,
01:00:25 the man, the man thinking what had occurred the
01:00:29 night and when he's up the in the roperer in the front of
01:00:33 there there's there's over the he he's he
01:00:38 he he's he's he's he he's you you're
01:00:42 you've you you're you're you're you're table in the hands, in when the
01:00:49 friend and be the table, he gets pallid and he desace the face the
01:00:52 terror. I don't have to say that to know that his friend was so he was a
01:00:59 surprised that he he was the he's the that he's then.
01:01:05 Then they do we let us let us go two times that we're going two
01:01:10 we're going to let's put her but you they're just they're to occurr things in
01:01:15 the house They're seeing They're seeing What's their They're going to This temperature This temperature
01:01:24 Fria that had In the cemetery Now he was in the Cemetery Which was, again No, I didn't Because it was Guerrero
01:01:31 What we talked about Right, of The Lugars Callidus And the Most Furt Occurred One night
01:01:37 In that The Tio So, Entra to Andra Andra, and Something Or someone
01:01:44 He can It's It's, I mean, they're they're they're they're
01:01:46 they're they're they're to do that he's going to the other and he's
01:01:53 wronged a thing, I'm I'm trepese no, so it was so, it was so
01:01:58 it's so he's a problem to impact with the lapamans the yeah,
01:02:03 it's the factura wow they're going to happen and the mom yeah
01:02:09 be that, I was that they're saying they're doing they're could be able to want to yorentarer,
01:02:45 they confiesan to the mom what, what occurred. And she was reaganed, he super enojou he was
01:02:50 at point of the carlors to goreels to the house and what he said, but what was, she said,
01:02:56 she made to that this perkeria to-or- right. It's that we're going to do you
01:03:02 do you're going to do you're to be to be in this moment of the house and they're
01:03:09 that I'm that I do you know, I do what I do. Yeah, we did it, we're going to throw it, we'll just to try it, we're going, the table, they're going to, and they're going to,
01:03:22 they're going to, and they're going to, that's a cause quite, rather, and they're going to, and this has to have to get to get. And poor, desgraciable,
01:03:31 the, that can gore that's the river. So, they're going, they're going to the house, and when they're the tally not was there. Then, they
01:03:41 So they're They said Well, I think that That's That's the So it's So it's
01:03:46 And then to They're And then And then When they're On the After the They're a
01:03:53 To get to And then And the And the Mesa of The table Yeah Yeah, it's
01:03:57 Mojada Yeah It's With the Planchet All And then Yeah
01:04:03 They just They're Yeah The reaction The Yeah The reaction of The
01:04:08 Mas So you Yeah I'm, I'm going to continue living with this. The mom, as a good senior Catholic,
01:04:17 I'm going to the sacerdote of the people for, for help, he gets with the and he says,
01:04:25 he says, and the can't go to try to the rio, but yeah has to be to be made to be made. What they did
01:04:33 the chikos was to get a tambbo of those of metal grandes, they chasiered the table in the
01:04:38 They let's charge gasoline and they They put their Fuego Sass Dice Dice that She says that Lusman
01:04:45 not is sure if his Tio Kisal he was he imagined for the terror that
01:04:51 but he said they were like voices gimyingando when when kemoh the table
01:04:57 you know you know that's the sound that's the yeah that's yeah
01:05:00 this not only only that crept the matter were like grits like
01:05:05 soyos no very very voices abhated. But notorious. Ah, so, so, so, they were
01:05:10 gritos. And, also the humo that was all year, not was a no-n-negrom like when
01:05:16 you're gonna like that's like a like a marriento like, like, like, toxic,
01:05:23 exactly. Exactly. So, they were there's until the final, they chasas
01:05:29 and then they were getting in senisas said, they're, let me, let me,
01:05:34 let me, first, recoged the tambo, it was brought to the river, vacillers to the nests,
01:05:39 and they were and they said, now we're si we've been to the house. And there was it
01:05:46 was still that it's not so. No me say that. Siggiener going to things.
01:05:52 The Tio passed the years and very gradually because it was very
01:05:57 gradually but was very gradually but was there's the Usma he was to know
01:06:02 to know to know to know to the father The abuela, they said, is that your tio, not was like, so, something like the story
01:06:12 that he told him, he started to degrade, he was just to be a legre, he was a little, and he was a child normal, and he's made a cadaver vivient. Oh, he yeah was very decadied physically,
01:06:23 but the doctor not diagnostickable nothing, it was not persons with cancer, but I don't see have seen those persons that fumman much and that's been
01:06:32 like rancas, literally, with all the respect of the power, that are like are like, like, like those,
01:06:37 but the the sir, but the sir, no, the don't know, you're saying, no, it's that
01:06:44 simply, well, as you're, but they knew they were something more. They'd that he was going to
01:06:49 something that day that came the table. Passed more years, and one day,
01:06:56 yeah, when Luzma had a one, I had a two, years, more or less
01:06:59 to the news of the people, that had had been Not that it was that not that was made
01:07:06 a person because no had a courtes of an arm black or like that's
01:07:11 like he was like a separate in a animal but but he was separated but not
01:07:18 he felt about but not I don't see if me explain. The they're
01:07:21 they're to be a taut serrado the sepelio all the question
01:07:25 obviously between the people many were a people many were in the
01:07:29 people and they're that that that they invoked that
01:07:33 that to them has disappeared like a sphere black that's
01:07:38 that's not a thing that not a good, and that he was he was
01:07:41 that he was the was the was the was the and they're in some years.
01:07:48 And they decide more for questions of space that they were getting
01:07:52 in the cemetery of the people, curiously the same in the
01:07:55 which they had had started this story, there's where
01:07:59 they're they're they're they're they're they're we're we
01:08:03 we're we we're we have here in the house, that's that's much in
01:08:06 Mexico malamente but when they're they're they're they're they're
01:08:14 disheered so it was the rest osio the polvo oceo was
01:08:18 they were like they had been profaned the tomb and they had some
01:08:23 what curious is that the attaute still and there there
01:08:27 there there had there there no there there no
01:08:31 there there of a um a A summaation, an exhumation illegal, a some of the tomb. Simply, they've
01:08:38 spumated many of the wessos, and between the wusses, the thorax, there was one. The costilla that had fractured when
01:08:46 was a young. Between some others, the hands, of the little, they'd, they'd
01:08:51 a little, the cranes, no, the cranium, no, the cranium, no, that's, it incinereran,
01:08:57 and the senisas, there's the family. But many years after, when Luzma
01:09:03 was a a day, a little bit after this he has to have been a contact with the family after having
01:09:10 been a after being after this he has been after the family, they're talking to but yeah
01:09:15 like a man, and a little bit more the Usma with the man who was a
01:09:21 man, he he's got to he said I know what I'm, between my my t'c't when they're
01:09:28 young and then they they're doing that this he's he says yeah that's
01:09:32 that we we were invocamos in that night in the cemetery. I'm sure that was what came to your tio.
01:09:40 And in part, I'm I'm going to be in Deuda always, and this is real, but I'm in a dream,
01:09:47 he said, he was, he was going to both, and he, as he had been the idea of, to have,
01:09:54 to have, he was the he, the he was the he, he did the he said, he said,
01:10:00 in a dream, that he said, he said, in some moment, and he said, let him, if you have to
01:10:05 get to get me. Confirmate with me. And at the days of having had this dream, he no he didn't want to comment to him, was that
01:10:11 they found the the body. And it's, yeah, to start the story, very, very aterrador,
01:10:19 that there are moments, there are certain nights of the year, no, he has not not known,
01:10:24 he has the characterist as the moon, no, no, but in certain
01:10:29 nights of the year, this sir he's a voice of his way
01:10:32 to the long, that's the name, and when it's, when it
01:10:36 happens when he says, he said by the voice of the voice of
01:10:39 his his blood a madera cremada. Like as you said what
01:10:46 you said, as you had been the table, a part of the friend
01:10:52 should have gone with her and that was what was the fall
01:10:56 Cement Wow Wow What history Yeah Yeah, I'm I'm Yeah, I'm
01:11:04 So I'm So it's a very good idea To quake the That's That's Yeah, I'm Yeah, I
01:11:09 Think of I'm too I think for the What is the supposed aspect of the Demol, a real
01:11:16 aspect of a Demonio No To me This same This same Amigo was a
01:11:21 He was a He was a little He was a 14 years He began to
01:11:25 do burrurea a little before the first time he made you he made he
01:11:31 he took a time he took years to be he made to learn languages and he told me he said that
01:11:38 the first that the first that he could contact something that he was he was a work in the
01:11:44 night he he lived very very close of a bush there in Chile uh uh
01:11:47 he puto velas he did he said he said that when he said when he said portal or that's a
01:11:56 chival, no. He said that the lume that was out of the lube so much the embo was more spese
01:12:03 and like to get a lot to get into a form humanoid a form human a form human a form a pure figure
01:12:10 and and a little bit of the demonio that he invoked that was a demonio I think he's
01:12:16 sumerio and I'm I'm I'm a I'm a what demonio that was a god
01:12:20 sumerio so it was a person was a humanoid without factions, without the figure
01:12:27 human of light. Tal qual was a womanoid. And a subcriptor about there
01:12:35 was a story that's then I'll tell you to know what I'm but it's a group of people
01:12:40 that one did a different and the little she said, Ben with me was an
01:12:45 humanoid of light that was a parted in the way in a carceria
01:12:48 in I think in I'm no you passes Yes, well, yeah, so,
01:12:55 is, it's a, it's a good, yeah, it's a good story, yeah, it's a good,
01:12:59 especially, I mean, I'm really, I'm gonna come, but, but I'm, to adverter, that I'm
01:13:08 to be, this, this, force me, much, because, because I think that's important
01:13:13 in this story, so, like, the, are very, very, very,
01:13:17 very important. Well, this, this, no, she, she's, of his
01:13:21 appellee. And it's a city. Okay. The actually, I'm going to say something.
01:13:28 This story is the that's something that me ask to ask me the,
01:13:34 the why the, but at final, at final I think, what is what I
01:13:38 ask me ask you. And in the last story, you're going to
01:13:40 make to be to be so. Okay, okay. That's story that's
01:13:43 called AtCity, the manna Carolina. And us says
01:13:47 that all commenced in the year 2014 when, she has his novi, and they decide in mudarse together.
01:13:55 There is where all all the novio, as obviously no, no, no,
01:14:00 he's going to expose, he says, we're going to call it, okay, okay, okay, Peter,
01:14:06 there's all, it was super good, all was super-padre, when they'd
01:14:13 when they've one to be living together, Carolina is does know
01:14:17 that there is a strange, rare, unusual. He's that they're there
01:14:24 they're in house and the and the really, but is that I
01:14:30 want to understand this because obviously when you you you know
01:14:34 you've a time with your time, you know, sometimes there there some of
01:14:39 there's, they're they're to get to get to to get to
01:14:44 you. But you it's, it's a good, that's like, you know, that's,
01:14:47 like, oh, my, more, how you super good, and then
01:14:53 you're so, you know, that's, that's, that's, she, should have
01:14:57 said that that's, that's, it's, but what the strange here is that
01:15:01 is that not, of these situations. Okay. The question is that is that all in
01:15:05 equilibrium, tranquility, pass, harmony, and and felicity, when when,
01:15:09 when, the they're they're to to discuss. But I said, I don't I'm going to
01:15:16 discusser. He commenced to talk to me. Of each what me said
01:15:23 no had a sense. It was like I'm like a monologue like a
01:15:30 like a monologue and then he said he never a thing like like the past
01:15:36 because you did this so simply it was in this moment this no
01:15:41 I'm not and he's to put to get altered. So, she was
01:15:47 so rare that they're to start to discuss to the nothing, that simply he said
01:15:53 that's something that something that had been that had been that was that
01:15:59 he was he was he was he and he and he decided he decided
01:16:03 to give us and he decided to he was he he was he
01:16:08 he said no me ignore What Rarer that she was
01:16:15 surprised to him because the voice not was the of Peter okay
01:16:20 I'm to make very clear with this for that you imagine
01:16:27 that that was that was that was a
01:16:33 voice grossa of that was a but very
01:16:43 very molesta very imponent very very powerful okay
01:16:50 and obviously he got of the on and he he said and he
01:16:59 he and then Pedro that was so he was to be the voice
01:17:16 of Peter and she she kept observing this confused more
01:17:23 than And Pedro he observed So, so with the footer he was he was
01:17:34 she was confused and he he was he he started to to carcagear
01:17:41 and she was like like what that's that's rarest simply
01:17:50 simply simply she went he's he's in the court so this
01:17:54 not this not passed various days, where all of apparently normal. And this Carolina
01:18:05 was in the house, was with Peter, but super normal. And she was doing the what to do barriending.
01:18:14 When of the pronto, she was in the room again was barriending when I heard a
01:18:20 so horrible. Boom! And he was going of the And he's He's found
01:18:27 a Pedro in the soil and he dismayed and obviously it's obviously it's
01:18:35 imagineate this I'm I'm going minus of 60 and Pedro me de like 1.90
01:18:43 so then she obviously she obviously she spanta no can move he's trying
01:18:50 to to hauler to help to help to help him to he's he's
01:18:55 he's is like, not totally boca-bago, but it's like to be made, almost, so she's, he's, he wants,
01:19:01 is turn it, for that he is, he's, like, be over-as- what's- going to be much force,
01:19:08 and when he's got back-up- up-ar-reva, Pedro is in a position like, like,
01:19:13 like, if was a body, in a ta-out. Okay? And, he'll observe, and when
01:19:24 he looks, he starts to buffer like an animal. Pasa! And he does much more a lot of fear and then
01:19:35 he's there he's got he's going to start. But you know, it was a rarestim. Because Pedro
01:19:42 had rapidissimo but he was like interdientes like if, of some had a
01:19:48 quality to talk to a unawoodita exaggerated. But it was not it was a murmur.
01:19:57 Literally was actually, I mean, she was she didn't recognize the language, or at the more,
01:20:04 not more, it was that she was so she was so she started to and no there was a
01:20:12 effect. And the only that he was called to do you know, he was him to
01:20:18 he was he said. And in that moment when he he grita Pedro, Pedro
01:20:23 he broke the eyes and he and he started to He was like,
01:20:28 he was kind of confused, observing, he's in the in the cell, he gets the
01:20:38 hands to the and he starts. And we say, imagine this.
01:20:44 It was a lot of a lot of a lot or was a heant
01:20:50 desconsolated. A man of one 90 of stature and
01:20:57 like a little she was a so was aogaba with a
01:21:02 little was a exageradisim exageradisim because she obviously she she was
01:21:08 she and when he was she could calm a little he he asked
01:21:13 what he he said I was I was I'm so I'm
01:21:22 so all was all I sawnees oscuras, things bad,
01:21:33 things terrible and when I was in that that I was playing with someone was playing with someone
01:21:45 in me but because you're she thought that was the moment more more
01:21:57 more more more more more of this that was going
01:22:02 and that obviously, like the fire, now is to extinguer. But no. The things were, to bad to
01:22:09 the bad to the day. Now, now, if, since that there was a demand,
01:22:16 he got to the morning the next, and the first that he called the attention, is that the
01:22:22 focus of the house were all all the so it's so it so it so it's
01:22:27 so he's the day next decides sersiorarse of the focus
01:22:32 they're after the day of the day he's not okay if it's my
01:22:37 error I've had to the fire the one does it
01:22:40 does do know that no doesn't do the
01:22:43 no the the fos had stalli okay then
01:22:48 then they started to start these marks like
01:22:54 if had had had had had the spalda, the
01:22:58 back, the back, the back, the and the little but I'm in a little,
01:23:01 but I'm a day, to get a little bit of a mancha of the and he asked a
01:23:08 pedro. You know, you know, that's from the mancha and said, no,
01:23:12 a tit you have to have done? To be a not a animal or
01:23:17 something, an animal in the middle of the cell? Sure. Volta to
01:23:21 up the obo a gotter of the techo Orchise, water with oxy-o
01:23:26 that they're confundering with the no? That's the that's there, no it's
01:23:31 so it started to do a day a day. A day Peter received the visit of
01:23:39 his friends, his friends of many, but of much time, but of
01:23:45 much time. Carolina says, I'm here I'm here I'm doing Maltercio
01:23:51 no, they're they're talking to football American video games and video games and so
01:23:55 so chido chavos, there's tending solos, and he's not, and he's a, but I'm going to, I'm here on the court, yeah, I'm going to be, there's enciar in the court, is there doing the show you. A little a rato after, the repente, open the
01:24:13 door, but yeah not he comes, but he's that they're there, he'll hear to come to the passio, and the the prune to enter, open the door with silence, the sierra,
01:24:27 and she'll turn to her, and he's going to get to get her again. She's a other way with this attitude that she's like
01:24:34 being like, like, that's like, what you and he doesn't, that voice, that voice
01:24:40 that voice that rara, and of a point, he says, and he's the eyes, and it
01:24:45 and she desploma. And obviously, well, she's spanta, open the door and he grita the
01:24:51 people helpen me helpen me these these people get on the
01:24:59 soil what happened help me to help us help them so like as like
01:25:05 Pedro of 1.90 well those friends also were some those
01:25:08 guys were those guys they're they're they're they're
01:25:14 they're they're just they're just And he said that it was like if there's a person hyper-pesada
01:25:24 that he would have the pecho pressionated to the piece. Wow. They'd they'd like the
01:25:32 body, but the be sure was being pushed out to the floor. Wow. And they were like,
01:25:39 like, what's going to what's going, no? Yeah. And she, when they can't be,
01:25:44 that no they're going to get up to other way, but no they're to be He's
01:25:48 He's not He's He's He's got He's got He's not He's not He's
01:25:52 So, if they're going to He's so I'm Yeah, so I'm So I'm
01:25:57 So far as She gets Let's say, Dehel He said, Baca Right, immediately
01:26:04 He got the back up back back here, like in a Cajamorto And she decided
01:26:10 to confront this that's there And he he's a Peter
01:26:14 that he says He's be done you're who are you
01:26:18 don't perteness here lette we're to restar for you go and you're
01:26:25 and he and he starts to start to and he and he starts to carcagear
01:26:31 and the people are there but what what is what is
01:26:36 what is and she he went to to see
01:26:42 to and he he said no I have to
01:26:46 be after this. I said, you're going to go, you're going, and in that moment
01:26:52 Pedro, he said, and he said, no, you're going to go to go. This is
01:27:00 with the eyes and one of his friends, murmur, she said, and he
01:27:13 said, and this chico and this he put palid and he just,
01:27:20 there's there right in the room apart. While Pedro was
01:27:23 there was serrados, Riednose in the Piso. And he said, Peter
01:27:30 never you know, obviously when I see the car confunded to Carolina
01:27:35 you know. Ase a pair of years Pedro was playing with the Uigha
01:27:45 with a woman called Atziri one and other time. Tartable
01:27:53 to get to get to his because the only what the only thing was
01:27:56 to contact to Atziri He said that she He said a scalo He said a He said to all the people.
01:28:29 He said to him. He said to him. He said, One of them He was He was when Peter was trying to recobra the aliento
01:28:39 and he said, Carolina, you know, I'm going to say something. This what did Peter
01:28:45 not is something good. You have to look help. I'm going to give
01:28:52 the telephone of a person. This person is a santer Cubano. Be with
01:28:59 him. He was to Peter. I think he'll help She's She's immediately
01:29:04 apunted the telephone and at the day next he's he says he's going to something
01:29:10 that's going to whatever blah blah blah and he's wait me before me before me
01:29:14 before me before me I'm first I don't you know I don't to be
01:29:18 to be to tell me then and here in my consultory we're
01:29:24 we're talking come both okay said Pedro you
01:29:29 you have to come with me Yeah. And they're to the house of the
01:29:32 santaero. They're this is the place. Tocan to the door. The santaer
01:29:37 and he and put a man to front to Peter. You don't you can enter.
01:29:47 She's she. To you I'm going to get from out of not you.
01:29:52 She goes so. Pass. Pass. Pasa. And he's the door.
01:29:59 And Pedro he of the out of what, what's what's
01:30:02 what? Yeah. And he says, a see, I'll sitate.
01:30:09 But is that's that's he's for favor. He put the
01:30:15 hand in the head in the eyes for favor? She
01:30:19 see the he's he's and he he he's that he is
01:30:23 recitando something like that also he doesn't he
01:30:28 And, of and then he's a head to you can open the eyes,
01:30:33 he'll open the eyes and he says, you are you know,
01:30:38 you're right? Yes? Did you? Did you? Yes. Well, in reality
01:30:52 no, you know, what's the thing, it was what was that was the entity.
01:30:58 Wow. That he gave on and she us comment that is
01:31:03 certain that literally when she begins to to end to
01:31:08 her she she was she embaras and when they were
01:31:16 to live together at a little he did
01:31:20 so she she she she was she was
01:31:26 she was a lot and he No permit her that any woman
01:31:36 is more more strong than I can confronter. No, I'm going to to tell me. I'm just
01:31:43 can't calmar. If you decide to get to that man, you also you're going
01:31:49 you're going to get the door, the santaero did some steps to go out of the house,
01:31:57 he did his distance with Pedro and he said, your curiosity for
01:32:05 the Uiha you have condemned She's never. She's not. Never you're going to
01:32:10 never to let's get. The question is this. We're going to talk about and we and we're
01:32:20 we're saying no, I'm, I'm sure, I'm going to you have done? You'd
01:32:26 you'd to your partner? With this situation? Yes. I think no.
01:32:33 She's she's separated of Pedro. So, so it's is how it's the
01:32:36 story. Okay. And you She said that she left all the he moved
01:32:43 to the and he he changed in her to get in this. But I concord
01:32:51 to a certain point with what she has she was the culpable. He was
01:32:59 irresponsible he took a decision and he has costed even the life to the
01:33:07 person that they were to try to I. I think is a good
01:33:11 decision that I took. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so, yeah, yeah, so that's a good
01:33:17 story. That's, before you know, before you was, I was, I was going to I was talking. So, what I'm,
01:33:23 yeah, it's a very difficult, and I suppose that Peter will be with that the rest of his life.
01:33:29 Tendrake to live with that rest of your life. That's horrible. Yeah, oh, you
01:33:33 don't know, but I'm that's the most, the most my, my friend, I think
01:33:44 I'm trying to you, because the my is a second is brief, but it's very terrorificate and it's
01:33:50 also a kind of to be with a kind of, in this case a piece of a
01:33:56 through the table. This is he sent a man, a man Rafael, Mexican
01:34:01 that radica in the United in Carolina of North actually. This is brief,
01:34:07 but me seems very very very much possession, no I don't know how it's when it's
01:34:13 a person when it's a kind of a question of this child of Daniel or Pedro, of Peter,
01:34:19 of Peter, no, not about that something, I think that's more more because that's
01:34:24 a certain way he's he's he's he's gonna. Rafael had a life
01:34:30 very complicated from from the five or six years, maybe a little more more chico
01:34:34 was abut for a person that's abhor is abu abu- for questions of the family decided
01:34:42 muders to Carolina of the North to get to be better opportunities get to in the States standing in
01:34:49 the United another prime of him he intently he'll get to escape the prime obviously was
01:34:56 more great apart he's the prime with the friends he's he'll be doing to
01:35:01 be a being being a a life very difficult by for questions terrenals
01:35:06 horrible but horrible the life, no? His, ancl emotional always was his abelita.
01:35:13 But in the 2013, when he was a adolescent, yeah, the abelita and he he's kept
01:35:19 without, he said that he said that he was full of his anger, and he
01:35:24 was a about his abel for having permitted that he was made to be
01:35:31 to be in a country in the he didn't he was he was he, but, they've been
01:35:37 bullied, he had done have been discriminated for having been for having been
01:35:41 for his life, he simply was infelis with his life, he was inconforme. And what
01:35:50 said a rato, what, the old about the about an action that he
01:35:55 no thought, a action stupid, but with much hate, much
01:35:58 resentment, years of resentment behind, and to get to get a table
01:36:04 whica, and he He didn't even know who contact or what contact he, he knew he, he knew he, he, he was he to understand, contact him, and he only did he understand, contact him, and he just he said a tabla. And it's curious, because he he was to disquited in specific with that person,
01:36:20 but he was, he was about of him of the the child. He was the, the, the thing that he took in an initial, he didn't even, he said, I want to go to my abuela, no, he said, I'm going for him. And he is what he, he asked him to the table.
01:36:33 help you to castigar a person that that made this when was a little
01:36:38 the the fletcha he did he he's going to he was he was
01:36:46 he was crying of a not of the and I'm I think
01:36:50 all of his abriminginged and he was he was enoched he was
01:36:55 he he's that night he's he did he did he's he's
01:37:03 He's He's on the with his his his arm on the person that he
01:37:09 had gone of the man he was put in and he other and other and other and other
01:37:14 again to his abhor out of his out of he did he did during
01:37:22 a good rato until what he was the person and he was a person
01:37:27 and he was a carne mollied embarrated of liquid and he In the way, in the same Sueya, he was in the same,
01:37:33 he was in the same, and what he had front of the end of the end of it, was a little, and he was he, in the Reflejo, be, in the Reflejo, be, what he was the arm in his hand, and
01:37:42 see, he's, in the liquid rojo of this person, but was a particularity in his, in his own own eyes completely blankos, and
01:37:54 a sonrisa of a loco, a sonrisa, a sonrisa, a person he'd get to literally, of o'recha,
01:38:00 o'recha. So, he deformed the rostro completely. But he was he. He knew that he was he. Despierta, a morning the next and then
01:38:08 he's in the door, remember the the sunno, be the table wheehae in the piece,
01:38:13 remember what he did much importance. In that moment, pass on the months, and for
01:38:20 azares of the destiny, as far as the family here in Mexico, he's he had
01:38:25 had bused of the man, had fallen, months after in a manner
01:38:29 horrible he had had in an accident completely deseched and he when he
01:38:36 when he he's he has been he has been he spanta and he spanta
01:38:45 not for the type but he he's what he kind of what kind
01:38:51 of what kind of what kind of so he enter like an
01:38:56 attack of panico, record we remember he was a adolescent, in when when he'll call the telephone
01:39:01 he's going to in an attack of a panic like, he said that there was a area like a
01:39:06 area a lot of a park, but more great, near the house, he's running,
01:39:12 still running without rumbo figo, corre, make, and when
01:39:17 he gets and the canza and the canstance he's he's put down on
01:39:21 his rodillas and trying to recuperer the alient and
01:39:25 he'll it was a little nubled but it was a little the world emerge
01:39:33 an clone a double exact to him with the same the same the but with
01:39:40 the eyes blackos and with the smile and the form and enormous that he had
01:39:45 seen in his years months after I'd the same the same
01:39:49 the same he's dismayed of the impression He's going to his
01:40:25 house and when when he gets to lavers the car and when he gets a in the
01:40:33 face, he'll be to see a face the face of this thing that's like he's but with the
01:40:40 eyes black and the face the form the smile the he gets a
01:40:46 a gritty and he goes to the family that was with him they're going to
01:40:50 get to what you what you And he says, is that the Spejo, in the Spejo, is it in the Spejo. Ben, and no there's nothing.
01:40:56 He's that when is the family with him, you know, that's a thing, he is.
01:41:02 And during many hours, passed that night entire in Vela, thinking what to do you did, if they
01:41:08 said, if he was not say nothing, for that that you don't think that's
01:41:14 a loco, but he knows that he's a fact, because that time, because
01:41:19 that time, and until the day of today, when he see in the spejo, normally, not always
01:41:26 but almost if he's only, or if the bayon is in the night, not see his
01:41:31 reflection, see this this entity. And of some months for this this is recent, he says
01:41:39 that has been to see it not through the space, but in the plan
01:41:45 physical, in the street, in the school, in the school, in the
01:41:51 one of these like hamburgesseries in the States Units that are until very late and when you come to a car, a seat, to his car, to go to his car, he's at his house, there's, there are, there, the arbusos, between the coaches, illuminated by the
01:42:04 farola of the the street, and he says that the time that I've been occurring of this, until he made the history,
01:42:13 every bit more closer, to this thing, every time is more and he's He's the question what will go
01:42:19 to pass the day that he'll to have to have to be a little
01:42:23 that he's a time that's that's a time that's a bit mimitisable
01:42:30 wow that terror yeah because the pacto was so you didn't
01:42:37 know he did he did he that's what I mean to he did so he's not
01:42:43 he's just he didn't he took what he sure he's over the I'm very, eh. Yes. I'm,
01:42:51 I'm, it's energy that he had, of the the of the odio,
01:42:58 of the and the and he gave much more power that thing, but much more power
01:43:04 to do that I think of the same. The thing, he did it was the only,
01:43:09 the ultimate story, the ultimate story, this story with the we're
01:43:14 to start is It's a peculiar. Okay. And it's called Isauro. Okay.
01:43:24 He's a person Camila. Camila us envied this story. And, I'm
01:43:30 I'm going to that a few things that I think super interesting because the person
01:43:39 not you do you think a question, simply you comment about
01:43:44 of that, well, she, she's a thing, et cetera, and simply you say,
01:43:51 no me just this is what's what was what was going to say, I can't say more.
01:43:55 I can't say more. She didn't that we did we the appellate because me said,
01:44:04 this story is what is, and I don't I'm looking fame, not I'm
01:44:09 looking viralization. No, no me interest. My name is Camila.
01:44:14 but Camilla's there are much So, so all this occurs for something for something
01:44:20 very, very peculiar result that that's that falle her mother
01:44:30 and in the moment in the moment in the mother mother and you know
01:44:37 well, you know, a lot of things the mother was a
01:44:40 house that had had pertensied to his that had pertenested to
01:44:45 his abelos. And this house was very a house that's a car that's in the
01:44:49 colony a girl and then he's a part of the family yeah that has
01:44:55 passed the duels to because now they're like those new the new
01:45:00 the house and they start to clean the house and there many
01:45:05 things that were many that's that the mother mother
01:45:14 primos, etc. Not are more than legends urbanas of the family. Courses that are
01:45:20 things that have no have been any sense and that they're but when
01:45:23 they're there, she said she said she she noted clearly that in
01:45:29 one of the mueles where there were books, revistas chucheries
01:45:34 so but more than it was like was like was a
01:45:39 matter that another that It was there was there was like there's like
01:45:46 like that's like that's like that's like that what you're what you're that's it's like
01:45:51 it's like a table placed there to do you so she she was in the
01:45:56 curiosity and he and he started to this table after the table
01:46:00 um botto a table uh behind this tableita well tablita
01:46:06 there there were various things there and met the hand
01:46:09 and he's to make These things that they say that there some
01:46:15 photos familiarers very super interesting there were vals gased
01:46:22 and they said that it's said that it was there the of the bell
01:46:27 that we we're that we is like transparent and the antiv and the
01:46:32 anti- and it is like very very dense no yeah so
01:46:37 and you make as these these these these this
01:46:38 this photography. There was a biblia of these, you've seen that are like little
01:46:44 there's, there's a bible a little a little a little and when it was a
01:46:48 back, it was like that was a very much that was about to but I
01:46:55 had written things in the pages. She the fact she said that I didn't
01:47:00 what said because she she said Latin. Okay there
01:47:05 had a lot of documents and things so and a table whiha. And this
01:47:13 tabla wihsa, it's that the fact, it was peculiar really a beautifully a remosa. Madera,
01:47:22 the letters were not like the classic that we know we were in a form more circular
01:47:30 the letters was very beautiful, and all this but but but about
01:47:39 this table wihah, when he's the paper, and he's the Bible, he's he's got the vels,
01:47:43 and he's all the and the last of the table, he's the planchette, and over
01:47:50 the planchette there's a aniel. Aniel anonio of silver. She has it's a
01:48:03 one, he, is a little, common, but for the endro has some inscriptions.
01:48:11 She's that she doesn't really what I said because literally what she
01:48:17 was that she said, I'm going to deletra the letters A. N.J. R.R.
01:48:24 Okay. A. N-H-Hir. I mean. No, no. She did. Simply
01:48:30 he was curious this an little what there there. Because the abuela
01:48:38 he had told me that is where there's where had had told to her
01:48:43 and, obviously, to the other people, that's that's practice
01:48:49 the spiritism in the years 20s and 30s. Okay. They, they thought that the
01:48:57 abelita a day this, was she went to and he was telling things
01:49:02 like that a more that a movie, or in a telenovel or in
01:49:07 a series of a television and he began to because she was
01:49:09 a person major, no? And, And never They've ever They were like
01:49:14 The drama of the legend Familiar of the Bissabuelos had been Spiritists She said
01:49:21 She said She said that revising these photographs not assume that is like a
01:49:27 reunion spiritista but that seems Okay Persons in that house
01:49:32 of that time sent to circle around the table that
01:49:36 is bigiss that is there in the salas, like no apagas, but like that's an
01:49:44 ambient of the dark, when you think you're in a photo of spiritists, you know, so with these robas, all those being
01:49:51 to the camera, satos, mannors to front, mann't in this case, no, but all there was
01:49:57 all going to the mess, like, it's a session spiritista. So, then they
01:50:03 were there were there, the primas that were there were in the night, yeah,
01:50:07 they'd have been determined, the most grandes, they were to be used to and they were to do with, and he said,
01:50:13 O'y- how did you we, if we're using, we're going, we're going to let's see in them, we're
01:50:23 to do our session spiritista. And the primas said, oh, all,
01:50:29 this primas were Lillia and Paola. Okay, there was Lila and our friend Camilla. So, then you know,
01:50:38 the truth says, we don't know how to do a session spiritist, we know how we have to use the tabla
01:50:45 Ouija. We don't have any the more remote idea. So, so they're their intuition and what
01:50:50 Hollywood has seen them. Pusierons various vellas around of them
01:50:55 in the piece, as forming a circle, they're the table Uiha at the
01:51:00 center, and she took the The anillo, he recorded, and simply he gave like a fear of leaving her. Then, he was just on a newweb. Regraced and he was sent to. Yeah, they were there, Lillia and Paola.
01:51:23 And they were a sabbado, apaged the lights of the bells, no, they knew what to do. Simply, they setarer there in circle and they're his dead
01:51:37 on the planchette and then he said said that they're even not because
01:51:45 the questions that they were very tontas and the planchette not so there
01:51:52 there were there there's a there's a spirit of light things so is
01:51:59 so the planchette simply not so they were so minutes and
01:52:04 And of And of It was like Like, Oh, Yeah, we're going to And one of
01:52:11 And one of And then of He said, no, wait, No, we've asked her
01:52:15 name. Okay. How you call? Fum. Fum. So, he moved.
01:52:23 It's like, like, like, if the dead to be pegated while
01:52:28 deleterable. Okay. And Saura was what he letreau. The prima Lilia, When
01:52:38 Marka Isauro Retira And he And he says Is the Tio Isauro And he says What's Tio Isauro
01:52:51 Result That Lila He likes Much the The The genealogy Family And she
01:52:57 He had Ashty I've been Before About this This This family
01:53:04 That This family That's He has Mucher Time And And
01:53:07 He And he You You know what? It's that I asked my mom about the people that conforms to the family that possibly I don't know.
01:53:17 I'm about of various people, but I kept always very grave to a man. Isauro, that, in fact, I'd be doing like our
01:53:26 our little an abuel, Isauro. Isauro me told my mom was a brother of the
01:53:35 that would be a ex-abuela. Okay. Okay. That isauro, my mom me said that did that
01:53:44 did he said, he said that he was commulgar that in that in that in an hospital
01:53:53 psychiatric because the people said that isauro practicable practicable with animals
01:54:00 and that a through an object about with angels inverted.
01:54:09 But I always I've treated like a legend familiar. So, they're looking
01:54:18 the table and they say, Camila, but yeah responded. Why don't
01:54:26 we don't we don't we don't he's where is? And more
01:54:34 than for curiosity I don't know what could pass. They'll to
01:54:57 and they're going to put up to ask her, they're going to ask. And no contest. No, it's continue. And continue, and continue, and continue, and no, so, we're going to continue. And no, it's going to move. But, even if they're going to get a session. But, But, no, no they didn't finish the session. Simply
01:55:08 what they did you were, we're going to use it. Guardemus and in that moment,
01:55:14 without that they're the planchette started to turn to tell it. He said that it
01:55:21 was a little and that more was like was like was like if it was like
01:55:26 like it's like so, and then he was moving and then
01:55:35 he came to the way to the the word, no. Okay. No, it was that they're that they're
01:55:39 and in that moment there was a second of silence, like they're to try to understand what
01:55:46 they've been that they're that probably probably could have moved to the planchet. Sure.
01:55:51 She moved solo. Yes. And to expressly they've been said, we're going
01:55:56 to have to use her, the planchette went to the word no. And Camilla had
01:56:02 that made much that's a very that's that I've noticed since that when they're
01:56:07 to get to and he and he went to see to see that he
01:56:12 said she's really she's really but the fear
01:56:17 in that the moment Lilia was there was there
01:56:22 with the face on the planchet with the book
01:56:28 abir and and and and the eyes were
01:56:34 they were were thrown to back. It was black like,
01:56:37 like, like, like, like it's like, collapse and when
01:56:43 he was her prima Paola, his prima Paola had the his
01:56:48 back, and he was and he said, Paola, you're good?
01:56:58 And when he was he was the nose was sangran so
01:57:03 then then she he he wanted to ask her to help her because at final she
01:57:10 only was she was coming the same to the nose but Lily was like well and when
01:57:17 she quiss he said that said that she sent a pressure in the pecho or ripilant like if
01:57:23 someone had put the man but otherwise would have put up in contra
01:57:27 of the movement that she had and he did he was not he
01:57:31 didn't he didn't so her Prima Paola commenced to do and of
01:57:40 when he was there when I'm like, and between the bava and the blood
01:57:50 and the and she was the was the annillo that she had had
01:58:01 in the world in what in what moment that he went to the
01:58:06 the person of the first that that that was that
01:58:10 was something was something was a terrible The only what he
01:58:14 was he was to work the table with all the planchette with the sand,
01:58:21 the bava and the aniel he put to the his prima Paola she went
01:58:27 and she went to clean to the kitchen and her prima Lilia
01:58:31 yeah had the eyes well and only was in silence no
01:58:38 he was not she was she was espantadishima. Lilia. Lilia, for
01:58:45 favor, talk about with me. Lilia. And he was a sustadissima. Simply
01:58:51 not she was she went and she and he started to put in the mess
01:58:59 all the things that had out of there. There was the table there
01:59:04 was the handio the photos. But you remember that you did you
01:59:08 did you did that was that a bonches of paper? Yes. those
01:59:13 he was to revisit. And there were all the type. Recetals
01:59:19 medics, things absurd, things that not have any sense. But
01:59:25 between this, there was a something, that she felt like a
01:59:30 punchad in the person when he got much me. It was
01:59:34 an act of defunion. That act of defunion was
01:59:39 of I And and He said that he was, well, that had fallen in the year of 1993. Wow. But the extrare is the
01:59:53 next. She saw the act of defunction and he was a little. Continued revisanded the papers. Her prima Paola had reversed, he was going to, he was very astustada, he started to attend a Lilia, she continued passing papers, viewing what are.
02:00:10 Another act of defunion. The act of defunion, 1957. Isauro. The Deja. He's to look. Third act of defunion. 1,971.
02:00:29 Mismombe. Isauro. How someone can be three times? Sure. Yes, yes. He left.
02:00:41 He was a little. He did a count of what What was going. There was a wija of with a wiffy-to-rojo, bava, an anillo maldito,
02:00:54 vellas, his primas, lastimed, yorenton, photographs of spiritists, three acts of defunion
02:01:02 of the same person. It was so. So, so it was in that moment, he was
02:01:10 a mom, desperate to her we need we need we need to us help and the and the mom he said
02:01:18 to get at here he went to go to the cell observed and he he said
02:01:26 to his subrinas to Lila and Paola go to the mom
02:01:31 not not not and she said that that was like that
02:01:38 was like to open the in those that you confias you guard a secret terrible
02:01:45 for your but you with your curiosity did something did something and help me and help me
02:02:00 and put all the whiffa the anillo the papers the photographs all what we're to do
02:02:09 what we're they're out of the part of the back to add room tambbito Tier it.
02:02:18 The mother entered to the kitchen, he started to look things saw the patio let's get
02:02:26 alcohol to all the he threw a serio and he started to get her the whiffa
02:02:34 she came the photographs and they came those papers the anillo evidently not
02:02:40 only just just it was it's cold and negreado when
02:02:44 when This, she said that he said he said he said he said to ask her
02:02:50 but he's going to but he a mirabing a different in her mom when all the
02:02:58 all the all I had prepared a frasco where he started with much careful
02:03:06 to throw all the sinis I heard even when the anio came to
02:03:12 to that the a snigued. When he was done to fill it with the sinises, he took salt of gran and
02:03:23 he was chero in the frasco. Then it he put in a box black, of a basura,
02:03:32 he did various nudes, he mack, he looked she just she never never I've never.
02:03:44 Never. It was so difficult to see to my mother that night. And with a voice serious and a temerosa, the mom
02:03:54 said, Listen me very well. Isauro, always he goes to bring. The mom's he went. Only knows that in
02:04:12 some place she desiso of the sandis, of the anillo, of all. And never
02:04:20 more, she was again, again, the number of Isauro. Oh, my God, what,
02:04:28 great story. Grand history. In serious. I mean, I don't even to understand to understand. It's a complex, right?
02:04:38 Demasiod. I mean, I mean, that's, like, it's a video literally. Wow.
02:04:45 Is that, is that's very rare the of the acts of defuncion? Yes, yes,
02:04:50 yes, to make a number to another person, but they're not so, they were very few years
02:04:56 for that were a person, So, they're They're very Pocos They're And they're
02:05:03 And they're For someone Yeah, Wow That's very Extrao This is what I'm
02:05:11 What I'm Here, Here, here I'm I'm What of the name and All
02:05:18 The Anillo I'm There's There Here's Anj Y-R-R Oh
02:05:25 What is That's My idea Angir with a R. Angir I don't know
02:05:33 if if you're in the Spanish doesn't mean it's not means nothing
02:05:36 no thing I'm think that were in the siglas of something yeah but of what
02:05:43 who who can know yeah and that eradicate in the in the
02:05:47 power so that that something that something I think
02:05:53 he's he can he he's he will use for that for that
02:05:56 to be to be where he's That, that's a a repent she he'll
02:05:59 be there. I don't I don't know if you don't know I'm sure that you put it
02:06:08 to come out of but it not the no, that's all that's the thing, and it's to go to
02:06:12 and it and he to the frasco that he's that he he said, the salt
02:06:19 the balls black, well the box of the black and the mother
02:06:23 and the man was to try to to where to get to do this thing to story.
02:06:30 That's too. No, not not. If I'd consider this in my family, if I'd not.
02:06:38 No, I'd not know. Yeah, because here could, I mean, the fact that he was a
02:06:42 spiritist, if he's a lot of, no see, it's that the fact of that the that's been
02:06:48 back, the time, and that the mom he would have said, he's, he's,
02:06:53 going to be going to be never. Yeah, no, no, I don't know,
02:06:56 no, I don't don't have no, Me, I love the Sanger, that history. Uff. Well,
02:07:01 so good that you so. Oh, yeah, this, thank you, thanks, for accept to not to be here.
02:07:07 To be there. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Muchism. Muchis. Thank you, thanks, my name, for
02:07:11 all the invitation. It was good great-sue. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, yeah, you know,
02:07:15 to thank you to do this. And you know, other way? Another way. Like, in the invitation, for favor,
02:07:24 your anecdotas, those experiences with that table, maldita. Diggins, tell us. What has happened?
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02:08:18 I'm sorry. Thank you. When you you're going to do one of Reptilans Part 2. For favor.
02:08:23 Yes, yeah. There I'm I'm, I'm, There are those things of that. Yes. Yes.
02:08:26 Perfect. Perfect. It's that. Oh, I'm. I'm going to. But, well, there's it. A lot. We'll see.
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