Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - 9/11 Conspiracy Podcast | Episiode 1 | 9/11 Anniversary

Episode Date: September 12, 2022

The 9/11 Anniversary is today in America. 21 Years have passed since the worst terrorist attack on US soil. In this episode we break down the timerline of events, and our initial thoughts on why there... are more questions than answers.

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Starting point is 00:00:16 It's been hard in America. It's been tough, feeling sad. It's been hard in America. Ever thought it'd get so bad? It'd be dead plane. Fly the tears away. I'd find a river so... Hello, hello, and welcome to Investigarette Podcast.
Starting point is 00:01:20 I'm your host, Chad, alongside my wife, Sherry. Hope everyone's doing great. Sorry, I said it before you just. What's up, guys? I'm so glad you're here, no matter what time it is. Yeah, morning, day, or night, no matter where you're at, we welcome you. But it seems like a lot of people like to hear us at work. So if you're at work, get through it. Yeah, get through it. You don't have many hours left.
Starting point is 00:01:41 So we're proud of you for being there. You know what I used to do at work when I hated work? It was like, I used to tell myself I was quitting the next day. Oh, I do that too. I'm like, I'm retiring. I'm retiring. I'm retiring. Tomorrow. I'm retiring.
Starting point is 00:01:55 I'm done. Not doing it another day. Guys, we just tried to do this podcast second ago, but we got cut. Yeah, we got cut because we don't like it. So we're just going to redo it. No, it's okay. We're going to do this a little different. But listen, this is the 9-11, episode one of the 9-11 podcast, conspiracy podcast.
Starting point is 00:02:15 And here in the United States of America, well, around the world, it is the 21-year anniversary of the 9-11 terrorist attacks that happened in the United States. It's one of the greatest terrorist attacks. to ever happen in the United States. And there was a lot of people who died that they, there was a lot of families that lost people that meant everything to them. And so we've been talking about doing a series on 9-11 for many years. Actually, we've been doing this podcast for four years.
Starting point is 00:02:42 We've been talking about doing it for at least three. And one of the things that we used to talk about was, I don't know if we should even talk about that. I know. It was a really scary subject to talk about because, you know, so close to home and we're we don't want to ever offend anyone but we're doing this for the families yeah we are doing it for the families yeah we there there are many organizations and groups around the world but especially in the united states and and when i say around the world there are groups and
Starting point is 00:03:09 organizations you know in the u.k and in other places in the world that want answers to this as well because this doesn't just affect the united states affects the world and it did and we're going to talk about how it does but the 9-11 terrorist attacks uh there are more questions than answers and now and 21 years later. Right. You know, the more time this passed, the more questions have arrived. And, you know, you would think with something as huge as, say, a terrorist attack, that you would have more answers than questions 21 years later.
Starting point is 00:03:39 But it's just only turned up more questions and answers. There's been more evading of facts and policy and science. And so now there are organizations and groups of architects and engineers and scientists They're coming together to try to bring answers to the families that desperately need the answers for why they lost their loved ones on that day. And so one of the reasons why we do this podcast is because we want more than anything. Look, there's something I've always said, and there's something we've always said on this podcast many times is what is something you can do? You know, used to, it used to be, I would say, maybe like eight, ten years ago, and we've even said on this podcast. You've got to go vote.
Starting point is 00:04:18 You've got to go do the things to put in the people in power that you use. you want to, that you want to have in to make change. But I think the reality today is that it's not about sending people into vote or being or taking or encouraging people to go vote. It's about the fact that we have to talk about this. Like we cannot be silenced anymore. No matter how much they're trying to silence us, they've tried to silence the, the experts in this whole situation.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Architects, engineers, scientists that have come together by the thousands, not just the United States, but around the world, they have been silenced. There are instances where people from major universities that study, whether it be explosives, ballistics, you know, architecture, all of these things have been brushed under the rug just the same as if someone that said, hey, here's a pill, or here's four pills of natural supplements you can take and not die of COVID. Guess what? That was also brushed under a rug or demonized. And it's the same thing. but just in a different circumstance here.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Exactly. And I just wanted to mention, since Queen Elizabeth did die, it was very interesting that she ordered the National Anthem. We played in England when this all happened, and that was kind of against their policies. Yeah. And she had them play the natural... National.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Oh, my God, anthem for all of us. So I thought that was really sincere. Yeah, for those of you, people who say, quit correcting each other. Hey, go listen to another podcast. Yeah. Sometimes you have to correct me because my language is not perfect. Mine isn't either. But anyways, it's all good. So guys, this is the 9-11 podcast. This is going to be episode one. Like, we're going to do, you know, when we did it a minute ago, we'll just be honest, we were going to go through a timeline.
Starting point is 00:06:07 And although we do need to present you guys with facts of what happened and we want to kind of relive that day as much as possible, rather than going through a timeline, we would just talk about what happened that day. as easy as we can as far as to get through it as fast as we can so that we can actually talk about the substance matter of just our initial thoughts on it now we're going to have experts and we're going to have people come on in this series that talk about the science and the and the expert facts behind everything we're also probably going to talk about some other philosophical or opinionated type things that you know may also be at play but the reality is is that I think when you look at this whole situation with a fine-tooth comb, and you really evaluate the actual science.
Starting point is 00:06:55 You know, the government's told us during the pandemic, follow the science, right? But the reality is that what science has done over the past two or three years since the pandemic happened, it was like they tried to pretend like science is not facts anymore. Yeah, they've led us to the false science. Yeah, and so they've basically just twisted everything. They say, well, what science is now is what we are, our exes, experts, whoever they are, whether they're veterinarians or dentist or whoever. It's so true, though.
Starting point is 00:07:25 But those are experts that, you know, are going to tell you what you should or shouldn't listen to when it comes to your health or whatever. Exactly. But before we get into that, I just want to mention that we are here for the families and the victims of these people that day. I will never forget that day as long as I live. It's still traumatic in my brain. So and by the way, and for those of you out there listening that
Starting point is 00:07:51 That had lost someone in 9-11 or you were close to the situation You can always reach out to us investigate earth podcast on Facebook We're also going to be on Rumble very soon. Well, we're on there now, but you know Reach out to us. We would love to share your story about what you went through whatever We want to get as many People's messages we want to get the truth out there with this with this series We want the truth out there so does so many other people, thousands of people, and people much smarter than we are. Architects, scientists,
Starting point is 00:08:22 engineers. We want to speak about this. This is the only thing we can do. I mean, we're not architects. We're not engineers. We're not whatever. But we do have a platform and we want to use this to bring light to the situation. And by the way, we're not just saying this because of families are not saying this. There are thousands of, well, at the very least, at least hundreds and hundreds of family members and families of some of the people that died in this that want truth. They don't believe that they have been told the whole story. They don't believe they've been told the truth by the government. The official report was confusing and bullshit. And so we're doing this for you guys. And if any of you were involved. And just from my sincere heart, I want
Starting point is 00:09:01 you to know how much I hurt for you, as I did 21 years ago. My heart really hurts for you and I hurts for the victims. And we're here for the truth. And we're here for the victims that cannot speak for themselves. Yeah, you're right. So let's talk about September 11th. The September 11 attacks, or commonly known as 9-11, it was, according to media and government, was a coordinated suicide terrorist attack carried out by militant Islamic extremist, network al-Qaeda.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Can I just stop you real quick, and I just want to give this little fact. When this was all happening, I promise I will not interrupt again. Are you going to talk about where you were? No, I'm not talking about where I am. I'm talking about the terrorists that took over the planes. Well, they went through flight school in Vero Beach, Florida. You know where I'm going with that? Well, go ahead and say it then.
Starting point is 00:09:56 No, I see. They lived right next door to my best friend as they're going through the flight school, and she could hear them outside in the backyard every night speaking in some kind of Islamic language or whatever, but they lived right next to her during this whole thing. And I just think that's crazy. So go ahead, Chad. Sorry. But anyway, so according to the official report,
Starting point is 00:10:18 Al-Qaeda, militant Islamic extremist, they were to carry out a terrorist attack on September 11, 2001. That morning, 19 terrorists hijacked four commercial airliners that were scheduled to travel from northeastern U.S. to California. The hijackers crashed the first two planes into Twin Towers of the World Trade Center in New York City and the third plane into the Pentagon.
Starting point is 00:10:43 the headquarters of the American military in Arlington, Virginia. Now, the fourth plane was intended to hit a federal government building in Washington, D.C., but quote-unquote, crashed in a field following a passionate revolt. The attacks killed nearly 3,000 people and instigated the global war on terror. Now, by the way, for that plane that crashed in a field, if the pilot is listening on this podcast that actually shot that airplane down in Pennsylvania even though you'll never
Starting point is 00:11:19 I mean because I think this podcast is going to get pretty big but the official narrative of the airplane that crash into the field and we've talked about us on the previous podcast in Pennsylvania it was headed to Washington D.C. Yeah one of our There's some military pilot out there that is probably in a National Guard, I would assume, because I think they were the ones that was scrambled first, that took that airplane down. Not saying that was the wrong decision, just saying that some pilot out there in our American military is still living with that today.
Starting point is 00:11:55 And the official report says that it was intended to hit a federal government building in Washington, but it crashed in a field following a passenger revolt. Okay. And what they wanted to make out this airplane, now I want to touch on this briefly, and we'll touch more on it later, but what they wanted to make this out was a hero-type situation that happened in the air
Starting point is 00:12:17 that a passenger just had to take over and crashed a plane down into the ground so that it didn't hit Washington, D.C. That's literally the narrative that they've tried to push with that airplane. But the reality is, is that if an airplane, in any capacity, is headed towards, especially after they know what's going on at this point, is headed towards, say, the White House,
Starting point is 00:12:39 which is probably where this airplane was headed. That plane's getting shot down. Well, I'm just saying I've never even heard another narrative, but the heroes on the plane that overtook the hostage guys or whatever. And look, I'm not saying there weren't heroes on that plane. I'm not saying that, but what I am saying is that plane was shot down. And we'll talk more about that from an aviation perspective, an explosive perspective, and a military perspective. I think there's actual phone calls from that plane that happened.
Starting point is 00:13:12 But there's also... With people saying that they were going to take over and try to attack them. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But there were also people that were trying to take over on all the other planes as well. But when you look at that aircraft and how it crashed and how the wreckage and the damage was spread out over miles, It wasn't, if an airplane crashes into the ground, it doesn't, the wreckage doesn't spread out over miles. If a plane is shot down in the air,
Starting point is 00:13:39 wreckage is spread out over miles. And so that's the official, that was one of the first conspiracies. I mean, this is not even talk about the sinister stuff that we're going to cover later on. And by the way, I'm not saying that if the pilot that's listening right now that more than likely shot that airplane down, I don't think that he should feel guilty for that.
Starting point is 00:13:59 I mean, because the reality, is, is that that is his job. That is, you got to protect, you know, shooting down that many people versus killing thousands of other people in Washington. And I'm not trying to make it worse, but you think about the planes they're on, they were not on these
Starting point is 00:14:16 huge planes where it's a three, seven seat, three seat. You know, it was not the huge planes. Yeah, like the triple deckers or the 787. It was like a three by three seat or even by a two by two seats. So they're not, they were not, huge planes that they hijacked. Therefore, there was not tons of people on the plane.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Yeah. And when you are in that situation, what are you going to do? And obviously, you're not thinking for yourself. You're being told what to do. You either shoot the plane down or you don't, right? Yeah. But the person telling him what to do, you know, you have a plane with 37 passengers versus thousands of employees or people.
Starting point is 00:15:00 in this place where they're going to, you know, run into. Yeah, so speaking about the airplane, so the first flight, United Airlines Flight 175, was a Bowen 767-200. Now, the 767s are obviously bigger. Well, they're not huge. I mean, they're not that 787s, but they are bigger than 730. So if you guys have ever been on a Southwest flight, all Southwest airplanes are 737s. They're a mid-size, I guess you would call it a mid-size jet.
Starting point is 00:15:30 They're three by three, right? Three seats by three seats in the inside. I think so. And they're not, so they're not, they're definitely bigger than, say, something you would take, like on a regional flight, like the, the, the, the, the, the, the, um, the CRJs or whatever, which I know you guys, not in aviation, I'm not going to understand this. But, like the smaller, it's basically the commercial airliners that look like private jets, but they're just a little bigger. These are planes that actually look like airliners, but they're just a smaller version of a massive, like, say, international airliner. But the 757 is a little bigger than the 737s. They hold more people.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Now, we don't know. I know on the first flight it was 65 people, it was on board on the first flight. And it was, you know, it was an airplane that was capable of inflicting a lot of damage. It was bigger than the 737, like I said, but it wasn't as small. Most of these planes that are the 757 models, they travel cross-country, especially back then. Now a lot of 737s are used to travel, say, from Boston to California.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Back then, the 757s were more heavily used. They're not as heavily used now because they've faded those out. Now the 737s are coming in. They're more fuel-efficient, so on and so forth. But anyways, at 846 American Airlines Fly 11, the 757 we were talking about, it crashed into the North Tower of the World Trade Center complex in lower Manhattan. So this was the first plane, right? This was the first airplane.
Starting point is 00:17:00 That was hijacked. So 17 minutes later at 903, the World Trade Center's South Tower was hit by United Airlines Flight 175. Both 110-story towers collapsed within an hour and 42 minutes and precipitating the collapse of the World Trade Center structures, including seven World Trade Center and damage in nearby buildings, a third flight American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into the west side of the Pentagon in Arlington County, Virginia at 937 a.m. caused a partial collapse.
Starting point is 00:17:30 The fourth and final flight, the United Airlines Flight 93, flew in a direction of Washington, D.C., alerted of the previous attacks, the plane's passengers attempted to regain control, but the hijackers ultimately crashed a plane in a field in Stoning Creek Township, Pennsylvania, near Skanksville at 10.03 a.m. Investigators determined that flight 93 was targeting either the U.S. Capitol or the White House.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Now, suspicion for the attacks quickly fell on to al-Qaeda, the United States formally responded by launching the war on terror and invading Afghanistan to dispose the Taliban, which had not complied with U.S. demands to expel al-Qaeda from Afghanistan and extradite its leader, which is Osama bin Laden. The U.S.'s invocation of Article 5 of NATO, its only usage to date called upon allies to fight al-Qaeda. As U.S. and NATO ground forces swept through Afghanistan and bin Laden fled to the White Mountains, where he narrowly avoided capture by U.S.-led forces. forces. Although bin Laden initially denied any involvement in 2004, he formally claimed
Starting point is 00:18:33 responsibility for the attacks. Now this is, keep in mind, this is from 2001 and 2004, Osama bin Laden denied having anything to do with this. And I think that does, you know, at least just keep that in the back of your mind. That took three years for him to admit that he had something as a terrorist group. Right. Yeah. So Al-Qaeda cited motivations, included U.S. support of Israel, their presence of U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia, and sanctions against Iraq. After evading captured for almost a decade, bin Laden was killed by the U.S. military on May 2nd, 2011, supposedly. I want to say supposedly there because we don't actually... We don't actually have his body. Supposedly, we threw him overboard on a ship.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Yeah, I remember that day? I do. Yeah. So the attacks resulted in 2,97 non-hijacker fatalities. and over 25,000 injuries and substantial long-term health consequences. There are so many people that are suffering from crazy cancers, all kinds of stuff as a result of those attacks and everything to happen there. They're still suffering today, the people that survived. And in addition, there's about 10 billion in infrastructure and property damage.
Starting point is 00:19:49 It remains the deadliest terror attack in human history and the single deadliest incident for firefighters and law enforcement officers in the United States history, with 340 and 72 killed respectively. The destruction of the World Trade Center and its environs seriously harmed the New York City economy and induced global market shocks. Many other countries strengthened anti-terrorism legislation
Starting point is 00:20:10 and expanded their powers of law enforcement and intelligence agencies. Now, it's very key here. Because, look, this is... We're going to go in this series. It's probably going to be a six-part series, and they're going to be pretty in-depth. And this is, by the way, this first episode is going to be the least in-depth series as far as scientific fact and the things that we're really trying to prove of why and how this happens.
Starting point is 00:20:36 This is like the intro. But we want to at least touch on many of the things that we're going to talk about or cover in the future episodes. And one of the things I do want to talk about here is that we have to talk about how it strengthened the powers of law enforcement and intelligence agencies. And I think we're seeing to a large degree today how it strengthened it. But I also know that what Edward Snowden and why Edward Snowden is someone, Julian Assange is another one. These are people that were whistleblowers. Julian Assange was WikiLeaks.
Starting point is 00:21:16 These are people that kind of came out and just from even what they knew being in, say, for example, Edward Snowden and CIA. talking about how invasive the United States government is. And as far as essentially what Snowden said was, the American public has zero privacy. They have none. And that really started after 9-11. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:38 And that was a Patriot Act. They said they were going after terrorists. Terrorists. But in order to go after terrorists, they have to go after all of us. Yeah. And so our privacy is now gone in 2001, 2002. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Now, you're 100% right. You know, and the aftermath of this whole thing. The 9-11 tax resulted in immediate responses to the event include domestic reactions, closings and cancellations, hate crimes, Muslim American responses to the event, international response to the attacks, military responses in the events. You know, we've had thousands of soldiers lost in Afghanistan and Iraq. Iraq, you know, from, which is a whole other subject, but Iraq was supposedly to have weapons of mass destruction, which was never found. We invaded Iraq. We took a shit ton of oil, made a lot of money off of Iraq. We then hung Saddam Hussein in the streets.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Although Saddam Hussein was not a great person, whatsoever. But, you know, we did do that. And then we went to Afghanistan. We lost thousands of other soldiers for the quote-unquote war on terror. And we've had a lot of shit happen because of this. And I think people don't realize this one event. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:55 And this is this day. today, 21 years later. Here we are. Yeah. But to me, a president has to go after somebody. Somebody has got to be responsible for the world's biggest terrorist act in the world. You've got to go after somebody, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:15 So we'll talk about a little bit briefly about the Patriot Act. The Patriot Act was a, which is also, it was called the U.S. A Patriot Act, or also known as Patriot Act, it was a landmark act of the United States Congress signed into law by President George W. Bush, and the formal name of the statute is uniting and strengthened in America by providing appropriate tools required to intercept and obstruct terrorism, USA Patriot Act of 2001. And commonly used short name is contrived acronym that is embedded in the name set forth in statute.
Starting point is 00:23:52 So the United States Patriot Act, essentially, it was enacted following the September 11th attacks and also the 2001 anthrax attacks that stated the goal of tightening U.S. national security, particularly as it related to foreign terrorism. In general, the act included three main provisions, and this is important of why we're talking about the Patriot Act. It expanded surveillance abilities of law enforcement, including tapping to men, domestic and international phones. Okay? Number two, it easier, it was much easier to integrate communications to allow federal
Starting point is 00:24:37 agencies more to essentially more effectively use all available resources in counterterrorism efforts. So this is, it allowed federal agencies to essentially do any and everything they wanted in the name of terrorism that they wanted to do to surveil. But I'm just going to say back then, I didn't even really care if they're going. Exactly. You know, we had brand new cell phones that were just getting used to cell phones.
Starting point is 00:25:03 But I really, at the time, I didn't even care because I wanted them to get these people that were responsible for taking these buildings down. So I was like, go ahead and, you know, take my phone, see my phone, do whatever you got to do, invade my privacy to find these people. That was my, mindset back there back then.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Yeah. Now, so it also increased penalties for terrorism crimes and it also expanded a list of activities in which would qualify for terrorism charges. Now, we've talked about terrorism on this podcast before.
Starting point is 00:25:39 And terrorism is a very, very deadly and strong word. The United States government, if you want the deadliest word the United States government can ever say, It is terrorism. If you are someone that would ever worry about ever being put in prison based on maybe what you either thought, felt, or said,
Starting point is 00:26:01 terrorism comes to mind. And especially in 2022. Now, we got to think about this. I want to touch on this for a minute. You know, like I said, in this episode, we're not going crazy deep into the details of why and how and what. But we are going to give you our synopsis and what. we think and and and sorry that was my wine glass i'm about to get poured hopefully by sherry just don't pour it on the computer because then we are going to be this is going to be over but anyway
Starting point is 00:26:31 so you got to think so president bush signed in the patriot act um now the patriot act as we just said it allows the united states government basically 20 times the 30 times more power than they had before 9-11 now the only does it allow the government power as far as foreign terrorism, as we talked about. It allows domestic terror to be surveilled in essentially a, let's just take, for example, this is what happened with the Patriot Act. Say that you have a NFL game, right? And because of something that happened, maybe, I don't know, with whoever, now all of a sudden next week, you're going to say, hey, all the NFL games next week, we're going to have
Starting point is 00:27:21 no officials. We're going to have no referees. But you know what? We're just going to trust how things play out. You're just going to trust it. We're not going to have anybody that actually judges anything. We're not going to have anybody. We're just going to have, you know, an NFL game with no officials. And we'll have one guy.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Just one dude that's going to call what happens and what the results of this game are. Well, this is what the Patriot Act kind of did. It allowed for the rights of the players, aka the people, to no longer have rights and it was all based on one person. Now that one person may be a Green Bay Packers fan
Starting point is 00:27:56 and maybe a Chicago Bears fan. We don't know. But it doesn't matter because it takes the rights from the players. It also takes the rights from the people. And so the Patriots Act said, you know what? We're going to basically have free reign with no judgment and no authority or with all the authority to do whatever the hell we want to based on the terrorist attacks because what we have to do
Starting point is 00:28:17 is protect you because we're the government and we care about our people, which is bullshit. But so then also think about the president that all this happened with. Bush. President Bush. Yep. So, you know, some of you that have listened to our podcast before might say, well, Chad and Sherry are Republicans. Yeah, you guys are freaking Republicans.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Well, I've said before, I'm more libertarian. I think Sherry probably would be too. I don't know. She don't know, but I think you're a libertarian. I think you want less government and more freedom. At the time, I believed in what the government was doing was right. It's because I wanted them to hunt these people down and find them. But I did not realize my rights were under fire either.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Exactly. And I didn't know it was going to lead up to what it is today. Exactly. So let's think about this too. And I'm going to go back to the Bush thing. Or actually, no, I better say the Bush thing real quick. So the Bush thing. I just want to make this clear.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Bush was the president then. Bush was also the one with his administration that said we have weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, which was not true. We found that that was complete bullshit. We still went in Iraq. We had soldiers die in Iraq. We had soldiers die in Afghanistan, thousands in both locations. And at this time, CNN was huge. That was the only news channel that was showing the actual footage back then.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Yeah. But Bush was there. Now you've got to think to today, right? who has been someone that, and by the way, I'm really not trying to involve, I don't even want to say Trump's name, but I have to make this a point. So Trump was someone that came in, regardless of you hate him or love him, he came into the United States and he said, I'm going to drain the swamp. I'm going to get rid of the corruption.
Starting point is 00:30:05 I'm sick of this bullshit. He's a businessman. By the way, the United States is a business. I hate to tell people. And everyone wondered, like, why Trump was so good. Because we run on a business. You're right. You're 100% right.
Starting point is 00:30:17 The United States is a business. Everything we do is a corrupt business. And so what is Trump? He's a massive businessman. And how the world works is a business, but is a business on the biggest scale. But who was a Republican that came out so stark against Trump? It was Bush. Bush has been one that came out against him.
Starting point is 00:30:37 If you go watch what Bush posts now, like on social media or whatever, there is more shit talking on Bush's posts than there are good things about Bush. And it's because people understand and realize that he's a traitor. Are you talking about senior or junior or both? George W. Bush, babe. The one that was 9-11. Okay. But when he posted anything, especially like anything now, he's hated.
Starting point is 00:31:04 And it's because he came out against Trump, and he pretty much went on the Democrat side. I mean, he might as well be a Democrat. So does Mitt Romney, all of them. But it makes sense now. If you look back, if you look back on what he did during 9-11, what happened as the Patriot Act and what they were trying to really account. Supposedly it was for your freedom, or not your freedom, but it was actually opposite. Safety.
Starting point is 00:31:27 It was your safety. Yeah. But what President Bush did was take away. That was the first huge step of taking away our freedom was the Patriot Act. Yeah. And then also you look at the Iraq War, you look at Afghanistan. I mean, the Iraq War is probably for oil. but you know
Starting point is 00:31:44 we got to think about it this way like and Bush was a huge oil man would 9 of 11 have happened because of the oil I mean would they really kill that many people because of oil if the government had anything to do with it or would it be for a more
Starting point is 00:32:00 sinister control we don't know we're going to talk about that later but all I want you to understand is President Bush has come out so hard against Trump because all Trump wanted to do was drain the swamp He wanted to get rid of the liars. And I truly believe, regardless of whatever people think,
Starting point is 00:32:17 and by the way, I don't think Trump's a great person, like completely. I'm just saying that there was a disruptor in office. He wanted to get rid of people. He didn't have the agendas that the main politicians have. And I think what it really shows is that Republicans and Democrats are all corrupt. There's so many of them corrupt. And they're a part of the evil system. No matter what, there might be some that are not as much a part of certain things as the other ones,
Starting point is 00:32:41 but they're all corrupt. And when you have a disruptor come in that could unveil or they could investigate or they could have the power to unturn some crazy shit, then you've got to destroy them at all costs. And listen, I know this sounds crazy, but I do think it goes back to 9-11. I think this whole thing...
Starting point is 00:33:02 It does from 21 years ago. And we were actually talking to a listener about not this, but something similar to this. And he was talking about the problem, is until we can be one and unite together, we're screwed. And he was, he was absolutely right because back then it was, you know, divide, divide, divide, divide. But really, if you think about Republicans and Democrats, they're always going to divide our country, always.
Starting point is 00:33:31 We need something else to come in and make us one. Yeah, you're exactly right. Now, Sherry, I want to ask you this, and I'm going to ask you guys this, and what does this sound familiar to? I just want to, I'm just curious. So the reason the Patriot Act law is so controversial is basically just because of the authorization of indefinite detention without trial. Okay. That's happening now. Okay, what does it happen to one?
Starting point is 00:33:56 With the insurrection January 6th of. Exactly. Okay, you're exactly right. Bing, bang, bang. Bing, being. How many points was that, 25 points? Yeah. But it is, it is, it, I remember when the Patriot Act and then, you know, when people started just kind of understanding.
Starting point is 00:34:11 standing what the Patriot Act was, it was just the authorization of an indefinite detention without any trial whatsoever. And they say of immigrants, okay? And due to the permission given to law enforcement to search property and records
Starting point is 00:34:27 without warrant. Without warrant. Now, they don't, and not only without warrant, they don't have to have consent. The parties don't have to have knowledge. They don't have to have any of that. and so through generally they need a warrant or consent to conduct searches typically
Starting point is 00:34:45 is how law enforcement works and since its passage several legal challenges have been brought against the act and federal courts have ruled that a number of provisions are unconstitutional although they still exist but it does contain many sunset provisions beginning December 31st 2005 which approximately four years after its passage and so before the sunset date an extension was passed for four years which kept most of the law intact.
Starting point is 00:35:12 And President Barack Obama signed the Patriot Sunset Extension Act of 2011, which extended three provisions. These provisions were modified and extended until 2019 by the USA Freedom Act and passed in 2015. And in 2020, efforts to extended provision were not passed. Although in 2021, the House of Representatives and such law did pass. So it is still in some form, shape, or way still out there. It's still here and they're still doing it And it's probably worse than it was in 2001
Starting point is 00:35:43 Because we have way more technology And there is way more ways for them to follow Listen to us I feel like we're being listened to 24-7 If you want to know the truth Well we are No we are. Our Alexis
Starting point is 00:35:58 There's no question The Siri, the Alexis Anything else that can like read what your Voice recognition Yeah anything like that You know they have access to that. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:36:11 I mean, you know, and here's the problem is like the way the United States has been, and by the way, UK listeners in Canada and Australian, whoever, I don't think it's just the United States bound. I think this is worldwide. You know, there's, is almost gotten to the point where there is no need for laws necessarily to be passed or acts to be passed. because now we have authoritarian, I guess what we call intelligence communities or agencies that just don't give a shit about anything.
Starting point is 00:36:49 They don't care. Or doesn't. Who cares? They don't or doesn't. Sherry, come on. Sorry. Yeah, they don't. They don't care.
Starting point is 00:36:58 I really, they don't. Yeah, I was going to see what you're going to say. That's what I said. So if you're wrong, I'm wrong. Yep. Go ahead and laugh. Drink or drink. But yeah, there's no need for them to even have acts or bills because now they just, it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:37:17 They are, I believe in a lot of ways, the intelligence agencies are unconstitutional. They are ways to completely invade and control the public and the people. We've talked about this many times in the past. This is just, we are a number. We are something that they, we're dispensable. Right. They don't care. But what we've not done before is we've not related it all the way back to 9-11 in 2001.
Starting point is 00:37:46 And that's where we're saying it came from. This is when it started back in 2001. 21 years ago, this was already going in process. They already had this initiative going and knew where they're going. I'm saying going a lot. But they knew what was happening and they were trying to make it happen this way. This was not by accident. Yeah, and also, you know, we can talk about a little bit, you know, the military industrial complex.
Starting point is 00:38:15 You know, this is basically it threw us into an endless Middle Eastern war from since 2001. That's endless. I mean, yes, we're gone from Afghanistan, but we have wars all over. And let's not even get started about how we got gone from Afghanistan. Yeah, exactly. So here's some of, so let's just talk about, let's talk about on this episode because we want to get to some of the conspiracy theories of what people have talked about and said about what are the conspiracy theories. Number one, the Twin Towers collapse as a result of controlled demolition, not the impact of the planes. And this is one of probably the most popular opinions.
Starting point is 00:38:56 And this is something that you guys are going to hear, guys and girls, are going to hear throughout this series. and we're going to get way more in depth with is the Twin Towers Collapses as a result of controlled demolition. That's possible and how could that happen and everything. Yeah. But one theory states that the World Trade Center towers collapse because explosives have been planted inside of them.
Starting point is 00:39:19 There was a physicist Stephen E. Jones, architect Richard Gage, and software engineer Jim Hoffman, and theologian David Ray Griffin are some of the proponents of this theory. They contain that the structure sure the towers could not have been weakened enough by the impact of planes and they result in fire from jet fuel. Jones went so far as to suggest that government authorities might have used thermite or super thermite to ensure the collapse of the buildings. The fact that
Starting point is 00:39:47 both buildings fell in vertical fashion as is being pulled into the ground was used as further justification for this theory. Now we're not going to get too crazy deep in any of this, but this is a major theory and it's probably one of the most reliable theories and so on now why would be reasonable I guess
Starting point is 00:40:07 yes now why would this happen well number one we know building seven building seven which was not even hit by an airplane which was a you know a block or so over collapse as well which also happened to be one of the major buildings that was supposed to
Starting point is 00:40:22 documents were in there was intelligence agencies that resided in this building very almost similar to Yeah, that's kind of crazy when you think about it. It was not even hit. There was a similar situation in Oklahoma City as well. Yeah, but Oklahoma City building was a part of government documents and so on and so forth.
Starting point is 00:40:39 But this building was not even hit by anything and it still collapsed. Yeah. Now, it may have get hit by a couple of little pieces of shrapnel or whatever. Buildings of steel don't just collapse. No, they don't. And, you know, and we'll get into on later episodes of how, like, you know, how strong. I actually heard someone the other day and they were a Democrat leftist
Starting point is 00:41:03 I will say this I had even mentioned anything about this and you know what their thing was oh yeah yeah well the steel beams were like the weakest steel beams that they ever made which is just not true and it's like this is the stuff it's like when you talk to your mom Cherry
Starting point is 00:41:21 or my mom about a subject and you ask them about something and you want to hear what the official narrative is if you bring up a subject. And they will say some crazy shit. Yeah, but that's what they hear on media. And that's what they believe. But still is still to me.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Yeah. So number two is Israeli agents caused the terrorist attack. And it has been claimed that Israeli secret agents were involved in the collapse of the towers. Five hours after he attacks, the FBI arrested five Israelis who had been filming the smoking skyline from the roof of a white van in a parking lot of an apartment building for puzzling behavior. It was concluded that these two men, were Israeli intelligence operatives. That's number two. And that kind of goes with the religious doctrines that some of our listeners believe in.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Yeah. So I'm not sure. But we're going to get in depth with that. So number three, the Pentagon is hit by a missile. Some conspiracy theorists have argued that the Pentagon was not damaged as a result of a crash of American Airlines Flight 77. Instead, a missile was dropped on it. One popular conspiracy theory website claims that the holes in the Pentagon walls were far too small. to have been made by a bow in the 757.
Starting point is 00:42:30 That was one theory. Number four, a plane shot down by U.S. Air Force, and this is something that we were talking about. It is claimed that the United States Airlines Flight 93, which crashed in the field near Pennsylvania, was actually shot down by U.S. fighter jets. Some plane debris was found miles away in Indian Lake. It is contended that a mere crash could have caused the debris
Starting point is 00:42:50 to dissipate over such a long distance. And you are completely correct. Now, I want to talk about it. this for a second because the flight 93 situation we're probably not going to talk a ton about going forward I want to because I feel like that's important it is important but it's not that important
Starting point is 00:43:09 with the whole you know with the big picture it's everything's important well it is but what I'm saying is the flight 93 thing now I know aviation very well I know I know how planes work and I also know how crashed things where I've also watched crash reenactments of flight 93
Starting point is 00:43:26 I've watched in-depth aviation experts and even ground impact experts that have talked about and discussed flight 93. It is almost, no, it is not almost. It is physically impossible if a plane gets brought into the ground that you find wreckage or damage miles away. And it's not just pieces or certain pieces of the wreckage was miles away. if you look at the debris filled from this airplane, for example, all you have to do is just go look at any other airliner that crashes in a field or otherwise. I mean, for example, go look at the Sky King, as they call him, which is in Seattle, when he stole the airplane from Seattle's a coma.
Starting point is 00:44:18 You crash into an island, you know, you look at this debris field is pretty much even the whole, I mean, this is a small island, by the way, he crashed on, but the debris field is there. The impact, when it happens in that initial explosion of high heat, it contains into one area. It contains so much in that area. And that didn't happen with this flight. Yeah, you look at any other airline crash that crashes into a field or whatever the case may be. It is very well contained because of just the ballisticness of even when that plane hits, all the pieces that do fall off. also are being projectile into the ground, almost being speared into the ground.
Starting point is 00:44:59 I mean, there are people that have been to crash scenes that have had to pull or dig out with bulldozers parts of the airplane because of how hard the plane hit. I get that. So you're saying it was probably blown down by another plane, but we're not going to discredit the people that were rushing the hijackers on that plane because there is definitely information that is true that that did happen. Okay. But yeah, I get it. So there were... But I'm just saying there were heroes on that plane, no matter what. Yes, of course there was. And I think there was on all the planes.
Starting point is 00:45:34 But that doesn't... Based on professional and expert opinions, that's fine. That doesn't change the fact of what probably did happen. But I'm just saying this is my intel and what I know. I know there are heroes on that plane regardless of how that plane went down. There are definitely heroes on that plane. Yeah, that does not discredit anyone on the plane. I just want to make sure that we're aware of that.
Starting point is 00:45:56 No, you're right. And I'm not saying for fact that that happened. But what we are saying is that if you look at the best, I mean, I don't even know that you necessarily have to be an expert. If you just go and look at other crash scenes and any other situation where airliner goes down and you look at a blast radius or not a blast radius but a debris radius. And then you go and actually find out. And by the way, you know, that's the thing about media. They try to hide the fact. They've tried to hide how far debris fell.
Starting point is 00:46:26 And debris falls in long distances when it is blown up, especially if it's blown up by a missile. And listen, I'm not saying that is, I mean, I'm not even saying that that's some sinister thing. I'm saying that if an airplane is headed towards the White House or Washington, D.C., especially if you already know what the situation is, a military pilot is going to get the command to shoot it down. They're not going to allow that. And especially considering the fact that it was already near Washington, D.C., you have, I can't even imagine how many fighter jets you have around there that are there. Oh, of course. But as normal people in America, we never heard about that. No.
Starting point is 00:47:07 All we heard about was heroes taking down the plane and putting it in a field so that they would not attack whatever target they were attacking. Yeah, but if you're the government. That's what we heard as normal, like, you know, huge. Humans are people in America that listen to the news. That's what we knew what happened. Okay, but listen, Sherry. Yeah. If you're a PR person for the government,
Starting point is 00:47:29 are you going to say that we shot down this airplane and killed all of your family members? You want people to think there was a hero. Exactly. Yeah. But we also heard phone calls from that plane. Yeah, I'm not saying they weren't heroes. I'm just saying that the narrative from the government is going to be, hey, they took the plane down because they didn't want it to crash into Washington.
Starting point is 00:47:48 So that's kind of the thing with that. Yeah. You know, so it is what it is. And by the way, if they're heroes on that plane, they're heroes because they want to save their lives. It's not because they want to avoid Washington, D.C. I mean, there was a lot of narrative out there that that's the reason they took the plane down, which is crazy. I mean, I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:48:06 I know you want it to be so patriotic that, like, people are just, yeah. I mean, come on. They're going to try to take it down because they want to save their lives and see their family. Yeah. Yeah. I agree with you. And it sucks. And, you know, I mean, you know, people look at flights nowadays differently.
Starting point is 00:48:24 I mean, I look at everything differently now this. Even when I go, and by the way, this is not, you know, if we go to a grocery store now, you got to watch your ass. I mean, absolutely. Look at Memphis, which we need to do a whole episode on Memphis, but just look at Memphis. That's crazy. I think it's a pretty racial thing that happened in Memphis. I think there's reports coming out about a racial group trying to target whites to kill them. You've got to watch your ass no matter what nowadays and it's getting worse and it's going to continue to get worse.
Starting point is 00:48:50 But anyways, so number five was the fake passports and visas. So the 9-11 commission determined that 16 of the 19 hijackers did not carry valid documents to enter to the United States. They had fake passports. It is alleged that a conspiracy at the highest levels of the U.S. government allowed them to across the border. This is used as proof that the U.S. government wanted the attacks to be carried out. And so if you think back in this time, this was not a, this was not a 2020. America. You can't just come across the border back then. I mean, it was extremely strict. And especially as many hijackers that got into the country, it would not have happened back then.
Starting point is 00:49:31 But there was a bunch of them here. No, but they all got here on supposedly fake documents. You don't just do that in the United States back then. Well, they were all in the same flight school in Florida. That's what's crazy. But see, but that's the thing. They all weren't even in Florida. Many of them went to Oklahoma. Many of them, most of them learned to fly on flight. I mean, and I heard that. The Florida thing, I don't even know exactly. I've not even really heard much about the Florida. I've not.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Well, I just heard that firsthand from my friend. She might be wrong, but I don't think she was. I don't know. I don't know. But anyway, so, yeah. So the fake passwords and visas, it was as if they wanted them to come in. And by the way, God forbid, like how many people were letting across the United States border now. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Can you imagine terrorist attacks that are being set up right now? I mean, you have everyone coming in the border now. This was back when our borders were actually pretty damn secure. Exactly. And now you're saying that all these people just illegally came in. They were all terrorists. Right. Because these people that did come in, they had to come in through different routes.
Starting point is 00:50:37 They had to go to this place, to this place, to this place to even get into our country. Who? The guys that were on the planes. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. I mean, you have to understand, like, the Mexican border, even though back then it was like a million times stronger it is now, it was still the weakest point. And all the other borders around the United States, you know, are the hardest. I mean, especially when you're coming in from another country into like LAX, for example, or from Canada or whatever, Mexico is our weakest point. But even then, I mean, just to be able to bring all these people.
Starting point is 00:51:15 And also, I'll put it this way, from an aviation. pilot perspective. I don't know, man. That is a lot to still airplanes and then also be able to, I guess in fine detail and with precision, be able to navigate your airplane
Starting point is 00:51:36 in these 757s, which are not the easiest planes to control at all, directly into directly into the World Trade Center. But it did happen. I know. with precision.
Starting point is 00:51:51 But we saw that on video, Chad. That did happen. I'm not saying that the planes didn't hit the building. I'm just saying how did they hit the building? Who was in the planes that were directing this? They had to have been commercial, almost commercial pilots or airline pilots to be able to navigate on a navigation system and make sure that they hit this shit with the precision they did. I mean, they did it perfectly. Yeah, well, my friend was saying that they were in flight school and she was a flight attendant.
Starting point is 00:52:17 I'm not saying they weren't in flight school. But you know how good of a. freaking pilot I am, you're not going, I, even on, like, if I try to do that in flight simulator, that's not easy. But I'm just, it's not the easiest thing with the 757. Regardless if our government has something to do with that or not, I believe these guys were smart enough to put these planes into a building, for sure. Or they were electronically guided straight into their desired location.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Maybe that's one of the conspiracies, but I don't believe that. It's not necessarily. But I'm just saying that the precision that happened that day is. It's not that much precision. You see this big, big, tall building and you're going to run into it. No, it's just precision as far as navigation.
Starting point is 00:52:59 It's precision as far as the whole thing. It's not as easy as it looks or sounds. That's what I'm telling you. I promise you it is not, and I can bring pilots on in this spot. I wish we could call some right now. They will tell you it's not as easy to do what they did as you think it is.
Starting point is 00:53:14 It's not, especially with a 757. Because even with a 757, these guys probably have never flown a 757 or life, there's no way they would have, because you just don't fly 757s or big airliners. And listen, those planes are so bulky and just, especially fully loaded with fuel. You've got all these passengers. They are like extremely shitty navigation or extremely less nimble. I heard they were in flight school for at least six months.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Okay. I'm not saying, we're going to talk about that. We'll get into the details of what the narrative. And I'm not trying to disagree, but that's what I heard. No, I get it. but that's the narrative of the government. So it depends. I mean, it depends on what the actual narrative is.
Starting point is 00:53:55 I'm not saying they weren't. I'm just saying that, you know, the official story was, oh, these guys were in flight school. They used flight simulator to do this, and they were perfect at it somehow. Within six months. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:06 That's all I'm saying. And I don't believe that. Well, I'm just saying my best friend was neighbors with them. And listen, by the way, I know for a fact that's true. I'm not saying that they didn't, or at least I'm not saying the planes didn't crash into the building. not what I'm saying, because they did.
Starting point is 00:54:20 But I think these guys were actually on the planes and they were part of crushing the planes. They were on the planes. I'm not saying they were on the planes. I'm just saying we also don't 100% know how perfect and why they were so perfect at what they did. How much help did they have? Whether it be through navigation systems or otherwise. That's all I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:54:43 So anyways, the pretext to attack Middle Eastern countries. So some people state that 9-11 attacks were staged so that the U.S. and its allies could launch military campaigns against Middle Eastern countries. The terror attack was used as an excuse to justify these campaigns. The Zionist conspiracy angle, which seems to crop up every time there is a terrorist attack in the West, is also tied to this theory.
Starting point is 00:55:07 The 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq, which was founded on a debunked claim that the country held weapons of mass destruction, has sometimes been used as a further proof that the U.S. wish to declare war on certain countries. The group scholars from 9-11 Truth argued that the group of U.S. neo-conservatives, the likes of Paul Wolfferts, and Dick Cheney, wanted to resume U.S. domination of the world following the end of the Cold War, and hence plan the attacks. Now, this is, you know, based on what we have coming up in many episodes,
Starting point is 00:55:40 it's probably one of the, you know, least, I don't know. Yeah, this is at least, like. You're plausible? Um, and listen, it's going to get deep. Yeah. Um, number seven, no planes were used at all, which, which I think is, is probably the most bizarre theory, um, whatsoever. Because we see it on video, unless they could fake it. Like, we think they fake other things.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Well, listen, this goes back to what I think they wanted the people to hear as a conspiracy theory so that everyone discounted any other conspiracy theories. Um, and it's the most bizarre theory, but, uh, there was a former official under. Bush administration, Morgan Reynolds, claimed that no planes have been used in a 9-11 attack. Instead, a technique known as digital compositing was used to make missiles appear like planes in videos
Starting point is 00:56:28 of attacks. This theory through, though, has been debunked even by most conspiracy theorists themselves. But the thing is, it was a former official under Bush administration that claimed this. He was supposedly
Starting point is 00:56:44 a whistleblower under Bush that said, this is what happened. Well, what's crazy is I think that really could happen. They could, they could fake a video on TV. If they really wanted to, they could fake it.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Just like they have faked other things in our history that we're not aware of. Yeah. So that is plausible to me. Now, here's the funny thing. And guys, I'm reading, I've got this list together, and it's the best list I can find,
Starting point is 00:57:10 but I want to make this clear. This number eight, which is number eight on a list, I think it's funny. I mean, if you want to get into like... Well, nothing's funny about it. No, it's not funny. But what I'm saying is,
Starting point is 00:57:22 is that if you want to get into who or why or the big, like, what is the overall picture of why this happened, number eight could possibly be at number one. Especially with what we know now in 2022. And I'll just read it. The Illuminati carried out in 2011. And listen, don't think about...
Starting point is 00:57:44 Sorry, did you hear that? The Illuminati, don't think about it that way. But I just want to read exactly what it says. Some 9-11 truthers claim that Illuminati, a global society that seeks to create a new world order under a totalitarian world government, planned and carried out the attacks with the help of some of the world's governments. Okay? And that's number eight. But the reality of this whole thing is
Starting point is 00:58:14 And listen Being in 2020 Yeah in this series We're going to get into the details of like how or if And why these buildings could have collapsed Could they have collapsed from planes? Why and how? And what are the science and architecture behind it?
Starting point is 00:58:29 But let's think about the big picture of If they were controlled demolitions And we want to also talk about that But why would it be? Sorry We can't discount Illuminati back in 2001 either. No, absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:58:43 They were there in 2001, just like they are here now in present time. Yeah. And I want to compare this to something real quick. And I want to do it now, I guess, before. I would say let's do it later. But listen, think about this, if you hear this, if you hear number eight and you say, that's crazy. Illuminati. New World Order would actually do this.
Starting point is 00:59:04 That's 3,000 lives that they just killed in America, right? Isn't that nuts? No, it's not. But what if the New World Order? was behind millions of lives because of a pandemic. What if? I mean, wouldn't that be way worse? Like, wouldn't the pandemic if it was,
Starting point is 00:59:21 if the pandemic was conspiratorial and it was a true global crime of our history, wouldn't that be worse than almost any humanitarian crime and history, even over Hitler probably, even over everything? Because they killed everyone all over the world. Yes. Indiscriminately. But wouldn't that, so you can't say that the New World Order or World Economic Forum and money and power and control. And if you say, well, how do you even compare New World Order and all that stuff to the pandemic?
Starting point is 00:59:56 Like, what does that have to anything to do with it? Listen, it has everything to it because you got pharmaceutical companies that are controlled. And by the way, pharmaceutical companies control a lot of the governments and the politicians. But who controls the pharmaceutical? It is the World Economic Forum and the Global League. It is the billionaires and the people, the World Health Organization. All of the globalists control the pharmaceuticals, and the pharmaceuticals control the people, and they control population, they control, they control government, I guess, dissent,
Starting point is 01:00:27 they control government power, they control freedom of people, they control of people. And that is the biggest thing. And so when did they start? Well, I think they've started a long time ago. That's what we have to consider, because back in 2001, one, there were people that thought like this way. And this is the way I remember it. People would like use a dollar or a $10 bill and they fold it a certain way and show the
Starting point is 01:00:54 pyramid and the eye. And they're like, these are the people that are controlling our world. And I was like, oh my God, this is crazy. And I tell me a family and like, oh, that's crazy. But this was back then that people already knew about that. And most of these people were Christians. And I guess it comes from the Bible somewhere. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:14 But that's where they're coming up with it. You're right. And it had to do with the free masons and all that stuff. So here's another one that's pretty interesting. And the reason I say it's interesting because I've actually looked into this before we did this podcast. And at least from the aviation side of things, from what I've heard on some of the aviators that I trust and they're not conspiracy theory. Are there not people that just want to bullshit? So there was a U.S. Air Defense was asked to stand down prior to the attacks, okay?
Starting point is 01:01:51 So some truthers allege that the North American Aerospace Defense Command, or NORAD, you know, we've heard about NORAD, which is essentially tasked with shooting down misbehaving airplanes, was asked by the U.S. defense systems to stand down in order to enable the attacks. So think about this The Pennsylvania airplane Which was heading towards Washington DC And think about this is like This thing was headed towards Washington So this plane went down
Starting point is 01:02:21 This was the only plane that went down Which was the one that was headed towards Washington It was the one that could have took it out Politicians or possibly even people That were involved in this whole plot Right But the Pentagon airplane Yeah but the Pentagon airplane
Starting point is 01:02:35 I don't think it didn't hit in the right place though Well it went probably in the exact right place It didn't kill any truly important. Yeah. Well, maybe it did. So you're right. Maybe it was in the right place. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:02:47 As far as, like, truly important people in the government. Because no one, like, really died from that crash. But you also have to understand. We knew that these planes were misbehaving, quote-unquote, airplanes. These planes were, I mean, had all the signs. We even had people calling from the airplane saying this was hijacked. Right. And they had plenty of time from the time they took off to get to New York City
Starting point is 01:03:08 and two hit the buildings and then the second one hit the building there were people calling they were trust me NORAD which is our main defense system if Russia attacks or North Korea or whoever NORAD is going to be who saves
Starting point is 01:03:22 our ass over anybody and you're telling me that people are calling from an airplane it is to NORAD immediately when this happens those planes are scrambled within a minute I mean because this is what fighter pilots do they are scrambled within one minute if you've ever watched any scrambled
Starting point is 01:03:38 videos of fighter pilots. There are always fighter pilots alert, especially around big cities and the government like Washington, D.C. and so on. They scrambles, I've actually seen a scramble for it, Shaw Air Force Base, and they usually do them at night, and they practice this all the
Starting point is 01:03:54 time. They may be in their beds or wherever, but there's always fighter pilots that are on alert, and they'll sleep like within feet from their airplanes. And there's usually like six to eight to ten of them. And so their job is to be on alert and they do scramble alerts all the time.
Starting point is 01:04:10 And so what their job is is like they got to get up, get out in their plane, ready to go and rolling, oh, sorry, rolling within like one to two minutes. They're in the air and they are ready to shoot down, whatever the hell they need to shoot down. So they're better. They're better than Top Gun. Well, I mean, no, but I mean, Top Guns. Well, no, they're not better than Top Gun.
Starting point is 01:04:30 That's what Fighter Pilots do. I mean, and they have alert squadrons on all over the country. I know, I'm just saying. But they have alert squadrons all over. the country. And so what you're telling me is that these planes were able to take off, people calling in saying they're being hijacked, their first plane was able to hit, minutes later, another plane was able to hit the Pentagon, then you had this plane finally shot down, which is actually heading towards Washington, D.C., but there are many inside sources that was whistleblowing that got
Starting point is 01:05:02 put under the rogue that said NORAD was told to stand down. Wow. Pretty much to allow the attacks to have. Right. And if you think about the timeline on an Eastern timeline, it really, like Eastern time. It started like at 8, maybe 815 until 930, I think. Yeah, I mean, when everything was kind of rolling. Yeah, it was within an hour. But you're talking about they're going to be up in the air in three minutes. Yeah. So what happened to the whole hour? I don't know. Now here's another weird one. The hijackers were alive after the attacks was a conspiracy theory. I know you're going to thinking, what the hell?
Starting point is 01:05:39 What doesn't make sense? Unless they had a jack button like goose. Well, immediately following 9-11, the BBC published names and identities of some of the alleged hijackers. Some of the names corresponded with those of living people from the Middle East. Some 9-11 conspiracy theorists believe that this to be evidence that the U.S. was not attacked by Islamists from the Middle East. The BBC clarified that some of the names were fairly common in Arab countries, and thus it could have been a case of mistaken identity. but some passports belonging to alleged hijackers were found after the incident, adding fuel to the fire. Yeah, and so the passport thing and finding the passport after the fact was a huge thing because it was some of the same names that were still alive.
Starting point is 01:06:20 But these guys had fake passports, I think. Yeah, but it doesn't matter. I mean, they, yeah, what I'm saying is they were still found after the fact and there were still living people. The guys on the plane were of Arab descent. I know that for a fact, because I've seen the videos. I think all of them were, but I guess the point to that conspiracy theory was is that there were some people that believed that people were still alive. Who knows? So here's another very interesting.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Insider traders knew 9-11 was going to happen. Traders. So people that knew like, hey, we're not going to lose money. We've got to do what you got to do. This is like the stock market. Yeah. So, yeah, it was an extraordinary amount of put options were placed on United Airlines and American Airlines stocks. The same airlines that were hijacked during the.
Starting point is 01:07:04 the attacks. Just a few days before the attacks took place. So many speculate that insider traders on the U.S. stock market were tipped off about the attacks in advance. And it is true that many made huge profits off the tragedy. So there were put options, which means they knew that they basically knew that either it's kind of like shorten the stock or whatever. You're going to put it on the downfall of the stock.
Starting point is 01:07:28 And so there was shit tons of money made off of this because they put them days before the attack. Right. It's kind of like Nancy Pelosi. his husband what he did. Yeah. Inside knowledge. Inside knowledge.
Starting point is 01:07:38 And if they knew that, those are the people that should be in jail right now. Well. But they're just soaking in their riches because they got rich off this. Yeah. But that's the thing. I mean, you've got to think about it. If you know in advance anything, that is huge. You know, if you're basically betting on the downfall of something, right?
Starting point is 01:07:58 I mean, you're shorting a stock or whatever the case. And that happened a lot lately. People have done that all the time with 80s. Well, they do it all time. Well, they do it both. What was the big one? It's just all about insider information, but they didn't short that. They fluffed it up.
Starting point is 01:08:11 And then what the big people, the hedge funds did would like, Oh, is GameStop and all them. What they were doing was short. They were trying to short and short and short. They were trying to kill the stock while people were trying to make money off of it. But what this situation was is they knew inside information to where they basically put their money where they knew it was going to benefit them. And they did this days before this happened on United States.
Starting point is 01:08:34 and American. I'd like to have that list of those people. So, also, black boxes were concealed by the U.S. intelligence. So many people claim that the FBI concealed vital evidence or black bosses found from the sites of the attacks. The 9-11 commission states that only two black boxes were found instead of four. But Michael Bellon and Nicholas DeMossi, who worked extensively in wreckage in the World Trade Center, claimed they helped FBI agents recover three black boxes.
Starting point is 01:09:03 The 9-11 commission on the United States. On the other hand, states in this report that of the two black boxes found, one was too badly damaged to be of any use. Only the CVR from Flight 983 was intact. On April 18, 2002, the FBI allowed the families of victims from Flight 93 to listen to voice recordings. So there's some theories out there to say that they're hiding or withholding some of the black boxes from the airplanes. Because one plane had one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:33 And the rest were destroyed, I guess. Yes, right? Yeah, exactly. Now, the other thing is Ben Laden tapes are fabricated. It is alleged that the interviews and videos of Osama bin Laden follow in 9-11 are fake. And by the way, I remember this, when this happened. I remember there was a huge thing going around. And even this was even back then, this was probably, I don't know when, maybe 2000.
Starting point is 01:09:53 I don't know what year, maybe 2005 or something. Yeah, I was going to say five. I was going to say five too. This says seven. So we were close. Yeah. But there was a lot of people that were saying it was some kind of weird, like, faking, a deep fake, as you would call it. So in 2022 now, we have people, now, do you remember, Sherry,
Starting point is 01:10:11 the guy on TikTok that was supposedly a Tom Cruise lookalike that I've showed you videos of? Well, all that is is software. He's not, he don't even look like that. It is literally a software that is you just put on your face and it makes you look exactly like the person. So you're telling me that the United States government couldn't do that back then. You don't think the government probably has more technology than what the public has ever given years but years before well the thing with why we got bin assaman or whatever is a soma bern what whatever is whatever is briccan name is is bin laden is because he had graves of people and then he had like nuclear weapons or weapons he had not he had no nuclear weapons he was he had weapons you're talking about no you're talking about
Starting point is 01:10:55 sure you're talking about um oh my god bin salaman no what what are you talking about what are you talking about. I don't know his name. God. I forgot his name. You're talking about Saddam Hussein, number one. Yes. We're talking about Osama bin Laden, which is over ISIS. They had none to do with the weapons of mass. Sorry. But he was the original guy. We're going to wrap this up soon. Wait, wasn't he the original guy? No, Osama bin Laden was a riser guy. He had no, he had no nuclear weapons. They were trying to say that Saddam Hussein, which had nothing to do with the attack. That's a dude that had the mustache. Yes. Yeah. But so a lot of people say that Assam bin Laden followed 9-11 Oh, that's the guy with the beard, yes. In the...
Starting point is 01:11:38 In the caves. In the caves. Yes. But some experts claim that the translations of Lodin's tapes were fabricated, and the original tapes did not call for a terror attack at all. In 2007, bin Laden claimed responsibility for the attacks, but stated that Taliban and Afghanistan had no idea about them. This was contrary to the analysis of intelligence agencies and experts in the West
Starting point is 01:11:59 who deciphered that. the Taliban did in fact have some knowledge of the attacks. Over the years, most of these conspiracy theories have been met with ridicule. But the United States and his allies have presented various kinds of evidence to supposedly debunk the theories. So there were many people that said none of these videos said that he called for these attacks. Although Western media, which is us, the United States and UK and whoever... Said he did. Yeah, they used these videos and said, look, this is him saying that he's going to attack.
Starting point is 01:12:31 the United States. And there are many people that came out and said this is bullshit. He did not say that at all. And, you know, not only that, he, he didn't even claim responsibility supposedly until 2007. Yeah, or four. Yeah, 2004, which was like two or three years later. So listen, if you are. But if you think about it and you put it in today's thing, it's kind of the Ukraine. Yes, exactly. I was already thinking about that. Exactly. You know? Yeah, look, I was thinking about that. And I'm still following Patrick Lancaster. We're trying to get him on. on this podcast because I want to interview him to talk about what his, you know, on the ground thing is.
Starting point is 01:13:07 But yeah, Patrick Lancaster, he actually had a video or not a video, but he had a post today that said, Western media is telling you that this is happening. And these people are basically leaving and fleeing. And Ukraine is making, you know, huge gains. And Russia is, you know, basically, what's it called? Fleeting. Yeah, they're fleeing. But, you know, he's like, do not believe the West propaganda.
Starting point is 01:13:35 They are lying to you. I promise you, they are lying. And this guy is an ex-military vet of the United States. He's been a reporter over there. I mean, he's calling out this shit. There are many reporters that are still doing this. And listen, there's no question. Like, look, we can't say, the number one thing I want to say about this before we go is that,
Starting point is 01:13:55 because we're just doing an intro just based on some of these things. But look, we just see. Everything relates to it. I know, but we've just seen what happened with COVID. Right. Like, I mean, and if, and even with the Ukraine and Russia thing, I was talking to someone yesterday, and I said, so now something that say the left, and I only compare it to the left and Democrats, but some of the left and Democrats are so on board with right now, which is pro-Ukraine, anti-Russia. Anytime I see these people on board so much with something that they look at that they look at. the side of, you know, I guess
Starting point is 01:14:33 freedom and the side of people that care about rights and all that stuff. And they look at them and they're like, oh yeah, if you even try to say Ukraine is not being attacked because of no reason whatsoever. You know, it's like you are a white supremacism. I mean, they're doing the same shit they do with all the other craziness.
Starting point is 01:14:49 So you have to think about it. And then when the mainstream media is on board with this, you have to think about this. This is no different. I mean, the 9-11 thing and the narrative and everything that happened in 9-11 is no different than probably what's happening with the Ukraine and Russia. It's no different than what happened with the COVID.
Starting point is 01:15:07 We saw how the media did COVID. So why are we supposed to just all of a sudden trust a media on a certain source, but yet that we know for a fact they lied about everything else. Yeah, we know they lied about everything else. We can't trust anyone right now. That's the problem. We cannot trust the media. We cannot trust the people that are in charge of our country.
Starting point is 01:15:29 Yeah. In a 2008 poll by world opinion poll.org showed that globally people were divided on who they believed carried out the attacks. While some believed al-Qaeda indeed was responsible, many others fell that the U.S. government itself planned the attacks, and some respondents blame the attacks on Israel. But there was almost a 50-50 consensus, and this was in 2008, that the U.S. government or al-Qaeda carried out the attacks. And look, I find it very interesting that Osama bin Laden One of the most sought after
Starting point is 01:16:04 terror suspects in the universe Now, I remember when we killed when we killed Saddam Hussein We hung him, we showed him We actually had video releasing leaked the videos showing him
Starting point is 01:16:19 It was on CNN. It was on CNN. It was on mainstream media. That was mainstream back then, CNN. But yet you're telling me that you go in with a still team and shoot and kill on one of the greatest missions in the history of the United States and kill the most sought after terror, a terror suspect, the leader of ISIS that killed thousands of American citizens on their own soil, and yet you don't release shit and you throw his body
Starting point is 01:16:48 off a ship without any proof? Because that's what happened. They're probably putting on CNN 10. No, they're not. That's bullshit. They're probably showing it to students, so they had to make it. No, they're not showing shit to students. Make it PG. Yeah. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:17:05 Yeah, it's probably a blow-up doll. They could show students a blow-up doll being thrown off a damn aircraft carrier. And students nowadays would believe that. They just have to put a little grass on his... I didn't mean to go there, but it was kind of funny, so... But listen, the point is, guys, is we're just kind of just... I mean, this is... This episode is kind of a BS episode to where...
Starting point is 01:17:26 Not a BS, but I mean, we want to bring light to what happened. We want to talk about just all the narratives and all the conspiracies and all that stuff. And then we're going to break it down. You know? We're going to break it down. You've got to have the hole and then break it down. Now, you know, the funny thing is, you know, Cheney actually confessed, supposedly, that we did 9-11. And it actually appeared to be authentic.
Starting point is 01:17:50 And it was former president, Dick Cheney, surprised the world this morning. Or was it this morning? This is when the article was written. during an interview in his luxurious Jackson Hole residence when he admitted that the 14-year-old rumors that 9-11 was an inside job were actually true. So this was six years ago. Yeah. In an exclusive interview with the Hollywood Inquirer, Cheney explained that the only way to move towards a global Pax Americana
Starting point is 01:18:15 was by engineering a new Pearl Harbor. This is what he said. To the Hollywood Inquirer, when we assumed office in January 2001 and saw we were losing control of the, world, we all panicked, claims Cheney. Obviously, very emotional. We didn't know what to do. And Paul Wolfforts, our strategist, suggested we rig up an attack on America as a temporary
Starting point is 01:18:36 solution. The militarized state was only supposed to last for a few years. But as time went on, but as time went by and nobody seemed to notice, we kept playing along. Well, as far as I understand. And we don't exactly know what he meant by what these comments were. But the Hollywood Enquirer literally interviewed him and quoted this. and and you know Dick Cheney you know the Cheney's
Starting point is 01:19:00 Liz Cheney is a bitch No but I mean come on man Look at Liz Cheney Like why is she so out there with like anti Everything Anti any yeah She hates America And she's even got her dad to do her commercials
Starting point is 01:19:17 Yeah when she lost Yeah when I saw him I was like That's not Dick Cheney Who the hell is it? Yeah he looks so different Yeah he does Chad's like who is that guy That's Dick Cheney.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Yeah, he looks so different now. Guys, I don't know. Look, there's going to be a lot of stuff we connect in this series. And what we wanted to do with this series is we want to try to, I mean, look, no matter whether we prove based on all of experts that we bring on or whoever we bring on in a series, it don't matter if we prove anything. but you all have to know this and you have to talk about it because listen, the only way, like I said in the beginning of this, I used to say, well, the only way you can make change is by voting, but you can't do that anymore. So the only way you can make change is to not be stupid, not be ignorant, and you have to say what you feel and believe. You have to talk about it. You have to be proud of it. You have to know what you're saying. You've got to be confident in what you're saying. and I'm not saying to go out there in several relationships,
Starting point is 01:20:22 but you also can't back down from the truth. And that is something we are faced with every day. I find this as a narrative in society today that if it so happens that someone on the other side, say the side that is brainwashed, the side that is left, the side that is extremist, a side that is anti-freedom, communist, socialist.
Starting point is 01:20:41 It's like you are not supposed to or to be allowed to say what your opinion is. You're not supposed to tell them anything because they might get upset. And if you upset them, then it's your fault. Even though you're speaking the fucking truth, it is your fault that you're upsetting these people. And that's not the way it is, guys.
Starting point is 01:21:03 And listen, I hate to be this way. I've thought about this many times, but, you know, no matter what the consequences are of the truth, you have to talk the truth. Right. And if that means losing people, it might be, but that's the only way we're going to become one.
Starting point is 01:21:21 It's people need to know the truth. Half of the people in our world don't know the truth. And that's the problem. And I think some of them that do know the truth want to pretend like they don't because they don't want to be wrong and they don't want to be wrong
Starting point is 01:21:35 of the shit they've been wrong for for so long. Especially during Trump. There's got to be a way that you can come up with a common ground. Most of the time it's not possible. No, but I don't know. I mean, like, there was one thing that was kind of possible was the vaccine. There's a lot of, there was a lot of people on the left and the extremists that were like, nope, the vaccine's bad.
Starting point is 01:21:56 I don't trust this, whatever. But it's still just a lot of those people on the other side that are pro-socialists, pro-communists, and pro-this. Absolutely. They want to stick to that shit. Absolutely. And they don't care what you say about pro-freedom, even though they don't realize that they would be taken, you would be taken away their freedoms also. They feel like this is a team battle. Like we're going to be awarded all the freedoms
Starting point is 01:22:22 as long as we take away all of your freedoms. But what they don't understand is it's not a battle against freedoms. It is saying that you were cheering on the United States government, which by the way does not give a damn about either party, either any of us. They don't care if you are pro-abortion or anti-abortion. They don't care if you're pro-gate-a-abortion. or anti-game marriage.
Starting point is 01:22:47 They don't care about that shit. They don't care. All they want is to divide, and they want to be able to make sure that you fight with whoever is across from you and that you continue to fight because they have to do that.
Starting point is 01:23:00 As long as they divide, they win. And that's what I was saying. There's got to be a way that we all can come together and go against this tyrannical government. Well, it's not even the tyrannical government. It's not just a, It's the globalist.
Starting point is 01:23:16 Whoever it is. Yeah, I know. Our whole American society. We've got to come to one place where we can come together and open our eyes and understand we are not the sheep. We are the people that are going to control our country. In our destiny. In our future. And it's for we, the people.
Starting point is 01:23:36 It's not for the government. The government is here for us. Well, we the people, the government, the government and the globalist. And it's not just the government. It's the globalist. Those people believe that we the people is a terrorist statement. But they even say it in their own speeches. I know, but they also believe if you say it, we the people,
Starting point is 01:23:56 they believe that is anti-government and you're terrorists. But I'm just saying we, the people, us, all of us, we need to get on the same page and say, fuck this government. Yeah. I know. We just got to make sure that we spread the word. We got to make sure that we make sure that everyone we know is informed. We have to make sure that, listen, guys, one way you can help us and you can help the truth is to share our podcast with everyone you know, talk to your friends about it.
Starting point is 01:24:29 And not just ours, anybody that you listen to that you believe are trying to get the truth out and rather than the bullshit mainstream media, share their stuff. And it's not just us. Share everybody that you listen to because that's the way you help us. I mean, that's the easiest way you can have to share us. And we're not the best speakers in the world, but we're here to share the truth. And that's what we're here for. And we are like totally into that. We want to share the truth with people because we love our people.
Starting point is 01:24:56 We love people. Yeah, we do. But guys, listen, that's going to do it for this episode, the first episode of 9-11. We're going to be a lot more in-depth on future episodes of 9-11. We're going to bring people on. A lot of guests. And, but we did want to just kind of give the overall consensus of what we kind of believe. And we do, we not salute, but we honor the people that lost their lives today, 21 years ago.
Starting point is 01:25:23 Yeah, every family member, everyone that still suffering from that. We are praying for you guys. We love you. And we're going to do our best to find the truth. So listen, we're going to do this. We're going to make sure we get as much information out about 9-11 as we can and about every subject that they're trying to screw us the people. We love you guys. Until next time, peace out.
Starting point is 01:25:44 Peace out, guys. Love you.

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