Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Alex Jones Trial Conspiracy | Freedom of Speech Under Attack

Episode Date: October 4, 2022

Alex Jones has faced multiple trials in the aftermath of some of his comments he made in relationj to the Sandy Hook Shooting. We discuss on this episode what this trial truly means for Freedom of Speech.

And welcome to Investigator podcast. I'm your host, Chad, alongside my wife, Sherry. Hello, Sherry. And I am also the host. Just kidding. Co-host? Well, no, no. Host, co-host.

Hosts for the mostest. I am anything you want me to be. But anyways, glad you're here. Anyways, guys, welcome to the podcast. This is 758 p.m. here on the east coast of the United States here in South Carolina. We welcome all of you from around the world, no matter where you're living. listening to us from. We definitely appreciate all of you. We got a huge announcement to make at the beginning of this, which is finally we're going to have something for you guys video-wise

and we're going to talk about in the minute. But welcome, guys. Tonight's podcast is going to be about the Alex Jones trial, the Sandy Hook trial, the Alex Jones defamation suit. This is one of a few that Alex has been going through and having to be involved with. So we're going to talk about what this means for us, what this means for freedom of speech, what this means going forward for pretty much anyone that has a platform that they talk about their opinions or their right to speech in general. This trial and what's going on here really does set a huge precedent. And so we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about how it affects all of us. I think this is genuinely a groundbreaking trial, whether or not people,

will realize it. Whether it's good or evil, or good or bad, I should say, not evil, but good or bad. Yeah, what are you talking about? Like, good or bad? This is groundbreaking that what's going on with the trial is proceeding what could happen to other people in the future. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's one of those things that, you know, it's kind of funny because the media only wants

to cover this trial the way they want to cover, right? And so they only want to push out how bad Alex Jones is, how horrible he is, how this he is, how that he is. They only obviously show the narrative they want to show as far as how the trial even came about. You know, Alex Jones, they've essentially made him responsible for these kids' deaths, it sounds like. I mean, that's literally the way they treat this. And we're going to play a statement from Alex Jones in the podcast. We're going to talk about a lot of different things about what this all means. But guys, welcome to the podcast.

get you a glass of wine or water or Coke or whatever you like to drink. Get it, relax, chill. Because it's no longer sober October. No, we tried that. Well, did you see Chad's little Facebook thing? You put an NBM on it? Never mind. No, we were actually, we were considering sober October.

And they were like, you know what? Nat. Sherry got COVID again. And so this is what, your third time with COVID. And so Sherry's had COVID now for. a few days at the very least. And so she, yeah, last night we tried to do an episode. And we were just kind of, we were off last night. You had a fever. Yeah, I was hot. Remember we were talking about how hot I am? You had a fever and we just, we were kind of out of sorts of it. Yeah, we just weren't on

the same page and it just wasn't flowing. So we pushed the delete button. Yeah. So here we are again. And by the way, guys, if you want to get to the nuts and bolts, I guess, of the story where this story where this episode really begins about the Alex Jones trial. You guys can feel free to fast forward it to 15 minutes, but we do have a big announcement before you do that in case you're about to do that now. But 15 minutes, we're going to start the, you know, I guess the core of the show. But anyway, so I think that now we have officially got everything together. We hope and pray for our video and for us to transition to rumble, at least on the video side. Now, I want to explain this and be clear about this.

If you have not followed us on Rumble, go do so. You know, there have been people to ask and said, are you going to get rid of audio? Are we not going to be able to, you know, find you on Spotify or this or that? We're not getting rid of any of that. The reason why we are trying to make a big presence on Rumble and with all of you guys is, number one, you know, most of our platforms that we say three years ago, for example,

Apple, Google, all of these other platforms that really pushed us they you know when people would look up subjects about things we talked about you would find us on google you would find us on apple you would find us on amazon you would find us on many of these platforms and now all of these platforms are our least uh you know we basically get no one from apple we get we get hardly anyone from google and it's because they blacklist us they they shadow ban us and um it's you know for us in our opinion it's a matter of time before spot does this. There have been people that have already reached out saying they don't get notified. There's been people that have reached out and said that they can't find certain episodes or if they

look up a topic, they can't even find any of our episodes on there. So we are going to Rumble because right now Rumble is the only free speech platform. We're going to continue to release audio, but don't be surprised if you guys show up on day to Spotify or say that if you're someone that is dependent on notifications and Spotify notifying you when a new podcast episode comes out don't be surprised that you no longer get notifications when we release an episode. Don't be surprised when you show up

and we're not there anymore. But we're going to cross our fingers and hope that doesn't happen because there is a lot of people that like to use Spotify it's convenient for them and they like to listen while they're going to work

or at work or whatever. So we will keep Spotify as long as we possibly can for sure. I mean we're going to keep it as long as you know. So let's just not jinx herself and say

No, but listen, we have to make sure that we let people know that, you know, if they show up one day and we're no longer on Spotify, which happens, they ban people. It's not like they're, you know. Yeah, and that's why we're telling them to go to Rumble. I get that, yes. Yes, what I'm saying is, is that

after the Joe Rogan thing, Spotify started being worse at, you know, as far as, not worse, but they started cracking down a little bit more on certain podcasts and episodes. They have removed podcast episodes. And quite honestly, the bigger Spotify gets and the bigger market share that Spotify takes from YouTube and these other platforms, the more they're going to be controlled by the government. And the more podcasts like us are not going to be able to reach people. And that's why we got a good Rumble.

But guys, listen, so tomorrow night, this will be October the 5th. It is Eastern Standard Time. We are planning on doing an episode on Rumble. It is going to be our first live video episode. So for those of you to listen between now and then, you know, you'll be the first to know. But it'll be at 7 p.m. Eastern Standard Time tomorrow evening. It'll be our first video live stream. So bear with us at 7 p.m.

Just, you know, who knows what's going to happen? We think it's going to go good. But you'll see. But you never know. Yeah, you never know. Technical difficulties do happen. So we'll see. So it is going to be our first live video.

And, you know, we're going to make it to where you guys can chat with us. and we're probably not, we're going to do the video similar to how we do these, right? So we're going to talk about our subjects. We may do like a talking, so instead of like us just kind of give an updates and stuff like that, we may do like five minutes of chatting with people for the first five minutes. And then what we want to do is also take about 10 to 15 minutes

towards the end of the show to interact with the live chat, talk to you guys. We want to like hang out with you guys, get some of your opinions. If you have any questions or comments or anything else that you guys want us to talk about on air, we'll do that. I think this is going to be a really good move for us. And I think it's going to really help our mission, our goal, which is to reach more people,

to be uncensored and to fight back against tech censorship. And there has been some news stories about that today. Yeah, so I'm looking forward to it. I think it's really exciting. Chad was super exciting. He's like, I got it to work because he had to do all these. formations with the camera into the computer. Like there was a lot of stuff behind the scenes kind of stuff that have no idea how to do.

But he was very excited. So I think it's going to definitely work. So you're finally going to see us live tomorrow. Tomorrow night, 7 p.m. And so guys, like I said, we're probably going to start with one episode per week of video. And then everything else that we release will be audio. But the video episode will release two days later. And so what Sherry was saying, for the people that like listen to us on Spotify, because they're going to work or they're doing that, just so you know, Rumble has very similar aspects as far as how you can listen.

So Rumble has background player as well. So even though we may be live or you may be able to watch us on video, Rumble does have to where if you close your phone and you're still listening or still watching the video, you can still hear us. So it's very similar to Spotify in that way. and it'll even show up in your mini player on your phone in most cases. So it's definitely a big thing. There's a lot of big people moving to Rumble. I know Russell Brand's moving there. I know some of the other big YouTubers are as well.

So I think this is, you know, hopefully Rumble is going to be the future platform for freedom of speech. But that's until the government comes in and tries to destroy it. And we're already getting invitations from people that are at Rumble that want us to come on their podcast. So that's pretty exciting to you. So maybe podcasts can help each other. And by the way, yeah, so just look us up on Rumble Investingarth podcast, and you can find us pretty easily there. And yeah. So let's talk a little bit just briefly about some of the news that we've kind of come to hear today.

Actually, there was actually a big lawsuit. And this was a court that was in a lawsuit with YouTube. And it was a, the RT victorious and Google censorship. and this was Google censorship lawsuit. YouTube was forced to restore blocked channels. Now, this happened, and it was ordered by a Moscow Arbibration, arbitration, arbitration, sorry, arbitration court to restore RT's YouTube channels, which were blocked by the text giant following the launch of Russia-military Operation Ukraine.

And so the decision was announced on Tuesday as the court found that in favor of A-N-O-T-V-N-Vosky, RT's founding company against Google LLC in Ireland Limited and Russian Google Division. So they have been ordered to restore access to some 27 block channels. And if they fell to do so, the court will impose a penalty, which will be imposed on Google until access to all channels is restored. Every week, the amount of the daily penalty will double. So they sued Google or YouTube or both? Well, Google and YouTube are owned by the same company.

By the same company. So it's basically the same thing. But it sounds like it was Russian. companies that were suing. Well, it wasn't necessarily companies. It was our Russian whatever. Influencers or whoever it was. You know, so what Google and YouTube did was they blocked certain channels that had large

followings in Russia because these people, these influencers, whatever you want to call them, and in particular, RT, which is a huge news platform, they were just, you know, RT was literally just speaking on the side of. what the Russia voice was on this war. And they were trying to get their voice on this. And so then YouTube went to block them. But it wasn't just them. It was other people that spoke out in defense of Russia

or against the West, the U.S., and Ukraine. And so Russian court has found you either freaking restore the channels or you're going to get fined and it's going to double every day that you do not restore the channels. These are the type of things that need to happen in the United States and around the world.

It really does. And whether we agree with whatever the hell any of those people were saying? It doesn't matter. Yeah, you have to do that. And you can easily do that. The United States could do that. Anybody could do that as long as a court would go for that.

But at the very least, yes, this happened in Russia, but I think many countries need to take this up. And at the very least, attorneys for different people need to do this. They need to have the right judges in place to be able to order certain things like this. This can happen whether or not, you know, whatever these people, or saying was true or not or whatever, it has nothing to do with that. The reality is that this is a public square. You know, when you get this big, like YouTube and Facebook and all these, you know, you no longer have the same type of communication we used to have. And so used to,

talking to someone in a, you know, on Main Street or at a wherever, at a social event, was the public square. Nowadays, it is no longer that. We don't really talk to anybody, hardly out anywhere else. But, you know, it's now Facebook and Instagram and all this. This is how we communicate now. And so, you know, that's been the big fight between tech and government and so on and so forth. They don't want to be labeled to Public Square because they don't want to be told what to do, who to censor whatever.

But, you know, the thing is the governments are in control of these companies. They are basically state-run media at this point. The government tells these massive companies, who to censor, who not to, it forms the narrative. It does form a narrative. And that's the problem with people or companies suing in America right now is because the judges are basically on the government side. There's not going to be a win-win situation with people that want freedom of speech on YouTube. It's not going to happen right now.

So I'm really happy that it did happen in Russia because it does need to happen in Russia. It needs to happen everywhere. It doesn't matter what their speech. is, it's the fact that they have freedom to speak their speech. Yeah. And that's what's important for all of us. If they can't do it, then we can't do it, and then they can't do it, and then nobody can do it. So everyone needs to have that right to get their opinions out there and to show the world

or show people what, what, you know, their opinion is and to have the freedom to tell them what it is. Yeah. Yeah, that's the thing. I mean, they want to push a narrative. And so that was at least a win somewhere in the world. and whether or not we agree with it, it is what it is. All right, guys, let's go ahead and get into the story.

It is 16 minutes in now. Sorry, ran it a little bit longer. So let's talk about Alex Jones. Let's talk about what this means to freedom of speech, what this means to our constitutional rights here in the United States, especially. Now, for those of you that are listening outside of the United States, this also applies to you because all of us are facing censorship issues.

We are all a part of the major tech conglomerate, which is Facebook. YouTube and Google. We are all part of this web of systems that force us, try to force us, to believe whatever narrative they want to push. This is brainwashing so many people around the world. And at the very least, if you go against it, then you are anti your country. You are far right or you are a supremacist. You're a white nationalist. You're a white supremacist. Even black, you're white supremacist, they call you. It's nuts what they do to you if you disagree with the agenda, with the narrative,

which is also the New World Order, the Great Recept. And I believe that this whole Alex Jones thing has been a huge push by the globalist, by the New World Order, to silence Alex Jones at all costs. Because regardless of what you believe in Alex Jones, and regardless of what you know about him, Alex Jones has been right about 90% more than what he's been wrong about. You know, the 10% what he's been wrong about or whatever the case, look, if you want to compare Alex Jones and how much, you know, and say he's a huge conspiracy theorist. Well, I know many of you listen now are like, no, Alex Jones has been right about a lot.

But let's think about how much the media has been wrong, which is like 90% of the time. Let's think about the government. 90% of the things they say are lies, disinformation, and misinformation. This is just what information they want you to believe. Exactly. What the government considers misinformation is what. is against their narrative. It is not about fact or fiction.

It's not about truth or lie. It is about whether or not they want you to believe what they are saying. And if you say a factual statement or you say the truth, whether or not you see it with your own eyes or not at this point, you know, it's almost as if you didn't see it. They want you to believe, no, you didn't see this. No, your common sense doesn't play a role anymore because you're stupid and we're smart. And it's not even that anymore. It's not even like they try to convince you to believe it anymore.

It's nowadays they just say you are going to believe it or else we're going to label you a white supremacist or we're going to label you a terrorist, a domestic terrorist. You're labeled an outsider and you're not going to have any freedoms. And the other thing is look at what we're doing to this guy that thought that he was going to go against us. Alex Jones, look at what we're doing to him. Do you really want to talk about what you think is true? Do you really want to give your opinions on things? because let me just show you. We're going to blast this for everyone to see.

If you think that you were going to get away with speaking your mind about whatever it is, we're going to show you. And we're even going to go a step further. So let's talk about what is this Alex Jones thing? For those of you that don't really know a lot about the Alex Jones trial, why he's in trial, Sandy Hook, some of you, I don't know. I know a lot of people know about Sandy Hook, but we'll at least start here. Now, I'm going to refer to a New York Times article, so bear with me.

And the reason I say that is, is because they're fake news. But the trial this week was for basically damages that Alex Jones must pay parents of a child killed in a 2012 mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School. And they say has revealed interesting details about Mr. Jones and his Info Wars Media Company, which he used to spread lies about the shooting. And so, you know, they obviously refer to Alex Jones as a far-right conspiracy theorist. And they say he is the focus of a long-running legal battle, waged by families of victims of a mass shooting

in the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut in 2012. So they said that Mr. Jones used his Info Wars media company to spread lies about Sandy Hook, claiming that the attack in 2012 in which 21st graders and six educators were killed was a hoax. The families of the victims say Mr. Jones' lies have added to their devastation, and his followers have harassed them, threatening their safety. Defamation lawsuits came.

The families of 10 Sandy Hook families sued Mr. Jones in four separate lawsuits. The case has never made it to a jury. Mr. Jones was found liable by default. And we're going to talk about that. Or actually, we're going to let Alex Jones talk about that with the clip. but he was found liable by default in all of them because he refused to turn over documents. Now listen, this is a New York Times article, and I want to be clear about this. This is one of the biggest and oldest running newspapers in the United States.

The New York Times, you know, journalistic integrity used to be a huge thing, right? It used to be a massive thing, especially if you work for a company like the New York Times or the New York Post or to Washington Examiner, whoever. But I just want to make this clear. He says, Mr. Jones was found liable by default and all of them because he refused to turn over documents, including financial records, ordered by the courts over four years of litigation. So his line of defense, the InfoWords host, has claimed that his right to freedom of speech protected him, even though the outcome of the cases was due to the fact that he failed to

provide the necessary documents and testify. Okay. So I just want to make that clear. I want all of you to understand how this thing is playing out. And I also want you guys to understand how the mainstream media is reporting this. Okay. So if your mom or your grandmother or your son or wife or daughter or whoever is one of the people that, you know, hey, they still go to mainstream media, they still go to New York Times to read things and find out what's true and what isn't,

because there's a lot of people that still believe in these massive organizations, which is basically the right hand of the government in a lot of cases, in my opinion. But they just, as they said, they claimed his right to freedom of speech protects him, even though they say, New York Times says, the outcome of the cases, the outcome of these cases,

was due to the fact that he failed to provide the necessary documents and testify. So I want to make that clear. The outcome of these cases, a.k.a. guilty, aka you have no defense, is because supposedly, according to the New York Times,

according to the court, he failed to provide the necessary documents and or testify. Now, there's been three trials. There will be three trials in a total to determine how much Alex must pay the families of the Sandy Hook victims. The first happened in Austin, Texas,

and a second trial is currently underway in Connecticut. The third trial is tentatively scheduled for later this year in Austin, but a date has not been set for you that yet. Compensary and punitive damages on August 4th, the jury in the Texas trial awarded the parents of one of the children killed in their mass shooting more than 4 million in compensatory damages

and another 45 million in punitive damages. The current trial in Connecticut could be financially ruinous for Mr. Jones because of what is allowed by state law, which is a major reason why they wanted to make sure they had this case here, and they wanted to also make sure that he basically had no defense.

I mean, now, to explain, if you're in a court battle, say you're in a civil litigation, and say someone sues you for, I don't know, $10 million. And at any point in that case, right, if you are ordered by the court to do a certain thing, whether it be in discovery to where they say, hey, we want to see your text matches, emails, financial records, tax statements, and everything else. And then at any point during this that you then fail to turn over those said documents, number one, it's not just the fact that you can be held liable, meaning by default, so basically a judge would say, well, we're going to give a default ruling that you're guilty,

because you failed to follow the court orders. But also, you could technically be held in contempt, which would then put you in jail. And contempt is a very, very tricky law because contempt, a judge can order you to be put in jail until that judge decides that you're not in jail. I mean, it's one of those weird and screwed up laws in this country that they don't have to release you in 30 days. They don't have to release you in 60 days. they can literally hold you indefinitely for as long as they kind of want to do so if you're found either perjurious or in contempt. And so what the judge in this case found is that not found, what they say is that he refused to hand over documents or things that the court ordered pertaining to this case. Now, guys, if you had listened to any of this case at all, and Sherry, you've listened to some of it,

Number one, it's hilarious in some ways how Alex Jones interacts with the judge and then the plaintiff's attorney and the, you know, saying, well, did you call her evil? And did you call her, what was the term they used to the judge? I can't remember. She was a, I can't remember now. Kangaroo court. He calls it kangaroo. I mean, but. He's really pretty funny, even in court.

No, he has. And then so the judge was like watching. him when they were asking specifically about like the things he said about the judge and she was just looking at him like I want to kill you yeah and he's like yes I did say that yes I did say that but anyways one of the things that we're not going to play here on tonight's episode about the Alex Jones trial that I took away from listening to this latest trial was number one the plaintiff's attorney the family's attorney he's a he's a douchebag in my opinion. And he's one of those attorneys that it's almost as if Alex Jones is on trial for killing

the kids. It's not even as much about what he said. It's not about as much about his opinion on whether it was fake or not. It was more so about they wanted the media and people watching and everybody else to put Alex Jones as the killer of the kids in Sandioch. They want everyone to believe he is the killer. He's the reason why these kids were murdered. And these attorneys, that's what they're getting it paid to do. That's what they're there to do, is to make him look like he's the evil person. And that's what they're going to do is best to their ability. And they sure are. They are. And they're painting an ugly picture. And so is the judge. And so is everyone else is definitely not a fair trial by no means.

But the thing is, too, is, you know, yeah, they want to paint an extremely ugly picture of Alex Jones. They want to make Alex Jones, although he's not the killer. They want to put off the devastation of what people felt when you found out so many kids died in Sandy Hook. They want you, your heart and your soul and how they want to say, basically this is what they do. They say, hey, everyone, do you remember all the kids that died and were shot and killed in Sandy Hook innocently and how horrible their deaths must have been. And all they wanted to do was go to school and learn. And instead, they died.

And look at this man, Alex Jones. You know, it's literally like he is the killer. If you watch any of the trial and you watch how the attorney for the plaintiff, for the family, talks to Alex Jones and explains things about the deal. They don't even spend as much time on just the fact that Alex Jones said he thought it was a hoax a couple of times he said that. And he mentioned crisis actors. They don't want to spend a ton of time on that. What they would rather do is make you feel bad for those families and the kids that are dead.

Horribly bad. And they want to put it all on Alex Jones. They want to make you feel even though you know in your mind that he didn't kill the kids. but a lot of people brainwashed over and over and over and watching this are going to be like, yeah, this guy is evil piece of shit. And the way they ask him questions, it's like yes or no. And they ask questions where it's not a yes or no answer. And yes.

And to that point, Alex has to be very careful how he answers things. And what we're about to play was Alex Jones outside the courtroom today. And this was Tuesday, October the 4th. He was outside the courtroom today, and he brought on a very experienced and talented constitutional attorney that has been working with him for a while during this entire process. But I want to make sure that we get Alex Jones's side on this. I want to make sure you guys hear this. And then we're going to discuss what Alex says and what his attorney says. We're not going to get to the questions part of how they ask questions, but we at least want you guys to hear what Alex had to say outside the courtroom today.

this is something that the judge kept calling Alex out for was the fact that Alex gets in front of the cameras after these courtrooms. He says the truth. He says what he believes. He don't care whether the judge sees it the next day and he's in court. He doesn't care. And, you know, look, the justice system we've all known has been corrupt for a long time. Exactly.

I think we also, I think tonight's episode we need to talk a little. little bit more about what we were involved in. We don't have to say names or anything else. But it is similar. I mean, in some ways, even though it had nothing to do with, you know, school shooting or anything else, it was way less than that. But yet the outcome of that was pretty, pretty similar. Yeah.

So let's play Alex Jones. This is him outside of the courtroom today. This is after speaking to the press. And this was outside of the Connecticut courthouse where the San Diego trial was currently taken place. And this is him addressing the media. I want you to hear this. And then we'll discuss it as soon as he gets done.

So there you go. I really appreciate all of you for being here today. I have Robert Barnes, a well-known constitutional, First Amendment and criminal lawyer who also worked on this case for several years. He can give you documented evidence that we gave them all the discovery so they didn't have a case. So they were forced to default us because I'm this villain that deserves to be found guilty by this kangaroo court.

This is American justice on trial. Even the worst people in the world, which I'm not, but even if I'm a bad person, as some say, I deserve my day in court. Even the local newspaper admits, I'm not allowed to defend myself. It's not Alex Jones saying this. It's the Hartford current,

an article published yesterday. Alex Jones said to testify in Santa Hook defamation trial this week. Here's what we know. It says he's prohibited from defending himself. They've had three weeks of people up there lying about me, twisting what I said, and basically have a memorial for dead children I didn't kill. All in an attack, not just on the Second Amendment, but now, ladies and gentlemen, on the First Amendment of this country. This is not a trial. Now, I came here to testify two weeks ago. I came here this time to

testify. And the judge today said that she will hold me a criminal contempt. If I say I'm innocent, if I say I'm bankrupt, if I say I wasn't the first person to question Sandy Hook, and over 10 other things. No judge in U.S. history has ever told somebody what they can and can't say. I'm being ordered to perjure myself when they ask me questions or I'll be arrested if I tell the truth. This is outrageous, and you're all having your freedoms stolen. In this article, in the Hartford Current and many others, they say I gave over no discovery. Then on the last page, they say their whole case is based on discovery I did give them that they twisted that I can't respond to. Robert Barnes is my spokesperson.

He'll be able to give a statement here and we'll both take your questions. Robert Barnes. This is a case that has put the American justice system itself on trial. And the trial that has taken place here, this show trial, is an embarrassment to the rule of law in America and a disgrace and a travesty of American justice. Everybody knows you're supposed to get your day in court. Yet the one person who is being denied any day in court is Alex Jones. To such a degree that the court has made clear today that if he testifies honestly, if he testifies truthfully, he goes to jail. But if he answers the questions in the way the plaintiff's lawyers want, then he could also go to jail. No matter what he does, he goes to jail if he testifies in his own behalf, in his own defense.

That is a core American right. This is a case you have to ask yourself, what is the truth that the plaintiff's lawyers are so terrified that the people hear? What is that truth? That truth is that Alex Jones participate in discovery more than any media defendant in American libel law history. A lot more than the New York Times did just down the road in New York in either the Project Veritas case or the Sarah Palin case, as is detailed in the Hartford current publication, which talks about the internal emails, internal documents, internal financial records, all disclosed and divulged to plaintiff's lawyers. So this is a case where there has been a big lie, a fake case about supposed fake news.

It's a fake case because the story they told about Alex Jones was never true. The story they told about Sandy Hook was not true in the sense that they blamed gun owners and blamed Alex Jones for what happened when the reality is that school safety was not up to snuff at Sandy Hook. Democratic politicians decided to pocket money meant to protect little kids' lives and little kids died who didn't need to die because politicians lied. That's the real truth of Sandy Hook. But they can't have any of that truth come out. They can't have the truth that Alex Jones and Info Wars had nothing to do with promoting and instigating

and originating those who had doubts about Sandy Hook. That came from media professors and school safety people and people completely outside of Alex Jones and Info Wars. That's why they always had a fake case. And they won't allow them to tell the truth because the truth would let the world know that their case is based on a lie. And Bob, make the point you've made. You were involved in the first two years of the case.

We gave them all this massive discovery that you see on the screen. Then they sit around and say we didn't give it to them so we're defaulted so we can't defend ourselves. Absolutely. Throughout the entire time frame, I challenge anybody out there to find any media defendant who has produced as many emails, as many documents, as many internal policies, as many all the broadcasts that were relevant here that has ever been defaulted. This has never happened.

Default is now being used and politically weaponized to take away people's right to trial by jury. And here you're seeing it live. You're seeing it reported in Hartford Current. If he gets up and testifies, truthfully, he goes to jail. How is that consistent with the American legal tradition at all? How is that consistent with what we view as American law? You can hate Alex Jones all you want. Don't you want all of us to have the right to our day in court?

All of us to have a right to trial by jury? Because the moment that is taken away, this is no longer American justice. This looks like Soviet-style show trial justice. This looks like justice that even Castro would have been ashamed to do in the show trials in Cuba in 1961. That is what is taking place here in Connecticut, the heart of part of the American Revolution that established these founding principles that all go all the way back to the Magna Carter. your right to trial by jury, you're right to your day in court. And Alex Jones is now being told, if he asserts that right, he goes to jail.

If he testifies truthfully, he goes to jail. That is not American justice. Not allowed to say I'm innocent because a judge says I'm guilty. Absolutely. Not allowed to defend himself about anything. Not allowed to tell them he almost never talked about Sandy Hook. Not allowed to tell them that more than 99% of what InfoWords reported about Sandy Hook said Sandy Hook happened. And these plaintiffs lawyers have said, here and it says they want me silence, period.

Well, he was somebody on death road deserves their free speech. So think about that. They want me off the air because they want to shut down the American people. No, in fact, he said so in the opening statement the plaintiff's lawyer did. Why are they so scared and terrified of the truth? Why are they so afraid of the people hearing the truth? If what they say about Alex Jones is true, why aren't they willing to allow Alex Jones to have his day in court? These are questions every American should ask. But more importantly, every American, we must defend the speech we most disagree with if free speech is to stay alive.

This is one of the core principles of the founding generation. And that principle is at stake and at risk in this trial, which by itself has made the American justice system now in danger. Because the very things that we hold sacred in America, that we allow people a full chance to present their testimony in court, right to counsel, right to free speech, right to due process of law. All of them eviscerated simply to caricature and stereotype Alex Jones to the world and then to strip him of the means to ever talk to the world again. And they admit they're saying the precedent for everybody else using me, just like my deplatforming four years ago.

Absolutely. This is about freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom of press, freedom of inquiry. I mean, here you have a case where ex-fbi agents are current FBI lawyers, are suing who don't know anybody who died in Sandy Hook. Never said their name. How is that? I mean, if FBI agents can now sue people for raising questions about what took place in various cases, does everybody who questions the government now go to jail? Does everybody who testifies truthfully in their own defense?

Do they all get bankrupted into oblivion? Because that is the future we face if we allow precedents like this to be set. They have used the historical example of Alex Jones to set the template for mass censorship and the legal weaponization of our legal system against the interest of ordinary everyday people. And it will be turned on the rest of us if we don't turn back now. All right, Robert, we'll take a few questions. So there you go. And that's exactly what I was saying at the beginning of the podcast.

This is a trial that's going on trial, and this is going to lead to more and more trials. Oh, absolutely. If this happens and they don't give him a right to defend himself, and they don't. say he's in default or whatever and they don't even give him a right to explain or do anything, then you know the rest of us aren't going to have a right in trial either. Yeah, you're right. This sets the presidents right now. So here's the deal, too, is let's start with one thing.

Let's start with one of the first things he said. And we're going to get to what this really means for all of us, freedom of speech and everything else. He talked about this is not just an assault on our second amendment, but our first. First Amendment. Now, you might be wondering what does Second Amendment mean? Okay. Well, that's our... Well, I know.

That's our right to bear arms. But let me explain what this... Like, why would he say that? So the thing is, is that this also sets precedent with gunmakers. Now, Sandy Hook families settled with a gunmaker for $73 million over the massacre. They sued Remington, the maker of the AR-15. weapon that was used in the attack at the elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut. And so there were families of nine Sandy Hook school shooting victims settled a lawsuit for $73 million

on Tuesday against the maker of the ER-15 style rifle using the massacre and is what believed to be the largest payout by a gun manufacturer of a mass shooting case in history of the United States or anywhere else, for that matter, in the world. And they probably knew if they went to court like Alex Jones, this same thing was going to happen to them. So they had to pay out. Well, here's the problem is... Here's the problem. Why are they not suing the school districts

or the school or anyone involved in the actual protocol of what goes on in schools to make this not happen? Well, here's the thing. You know, you've got to ask yourself, can people actually sue gun manufacturers?

But to me, guns don't kill people. People kill people, right? Yes. But so a federal gun industry immunity law that was adopted in 2005 slams courtroom doors shut on many

civil rights or civil, not civil rights, civil claims against the gun industry. So there is a federal gun industry immunity that says that you cannot essentially sue a gun company if someone uses your weapon that you built or manufactured to kill someone, which is

a pretty obvious thing, right? I mean, That's like saying that because we manufacture kitchen knives. Exactly. I was going to say the same thing. Yeah, that we can sue you because somebody. Somebody stabbed somebody. Yeah, and killed them. I mean, that's to say that, you know, we can sue car companies because cars exist

and then also people can get in car accidents and kill each other. I mean, but this is nothing more than, like he said, an attack on the Second Amendment, this $75 million settlement they reached is, regardless of whether it went to the end of trial or not, it sets a huge president in as far as the immunity law and gun manufacturers. If we care about our Second Amendment, if we care about our right to bear arms, and especially in the United States, if we care about our right to defend ourselves, we have to protect the gun companies. I mean, I hate to say that the way it may sound to people that might not agree with that,

But the reality is you can't sue people for creating something that you choose to use the way it was not intended to be used. That's right. You can use anything as a weapon. Oh, absolutely. I mean, you could use a pencil and stab someone in the face and then they could sue the damn pencil companies. I think that you could even kill people with vizine, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, you can. Yeah, we've seen that. You can put in someone's dream. I mean, seriously, just think about it. If you're going to sue gun companies, then you've got to go after everything that could possibly kill people, which is pretty much everything. Yes. And so here's the other problem is

So when Alex Jones talks about the fact that he's not able to defend himself in court He's not able to say the truth He's not able to say he's innocent He's not able to say what really happened or what he did say or didn't say Or how many times it was said Well essentially when you're in a courtroom and a judge says Oh well you defaulted so here's the deal These are new rules we play by now

We say you're guilty now which means you are a criminal in the eyes of this court, right? Criminal, a.k.a. you're guilty at the very least in this courtroom. And once you're guilty in a courtroom, you basically don't have rights anymore. That's kind of the way the justice system is worked out. You have all these rules that are set forth that say, I can no longer say I'm innocent. I have to basically portray every answer that I answer to the plaintiff's attorneys as if I'm guilty. and if I don't do that,

then I will be held in contempt of court. So Alex literally has to think about every single thing he says before he answers it because the judge and the court is just waiting to hold him in contempt. Meanwhile... Once they do that, they put him in jail. But meanwhile, I think the court is a little bit crooked. I think they're in contempt

because I think in the default thing with all the records, they told, they said everything. and 99% of the time they didn't even talk about Sandy Hook and what they thought happened It was like the 1% time is what they were going after It's like Alex Jones says But he's not the only one in the world

That said that And he was not the first one to say that either So why is he getting all the charges? Because he had the biggest platform And one of the biggest platforms right And so you know It's similar to they wanted him gone Alex Jones has exposed more of what is going on in the world and the truth behind a lot of this stuff.

I mean, he's exposed a ton. And he knows a lot of people that are deep in the deep state. His family was heavily involved in special operations commands. And this is no BS. This is not like him just saying this and spouting BS, right? His family was really heavily involved in a lot of governmental shit back in the day, right? And so Alex has a whole lot of insight into how things work. He has a lot of communication with a lot of people that a lot of people don't have.

You know, he has people like such as whistleblowers, people that come to him that has been involved in certain incidents in the government or has privy of information that, you know, the government knows that they don't want them going to Alex Jones for them, for him to then expose. There's a lot of things in this that is, And when we were watching the case, do you remember when the plaintiff's attorney for the Sanyhook family said, we need him gone? They don't even say, like, we want him to pay the family for what he said.

No, they literally said, we want him completely gone off the Internet so he never speaks to anyone again. Right. And they said it in court. And this is what they're really after. They are after getting him off every single platform they have. And, you know, here's another thing is like when they banned him. him on everything. It was like they pushed a switch and it was YouTube. It was Apple. It was everything. I mean literally every single platform there was. Everyone banned him at the same time because

they're all with each other in the same little monopoly. Yeah, it's a systematic, uh, it's a systematic approach. It is. Not approach. It's a systematic system, I guess you can say, of how this whole thing works. You saw it with Andrew Tate. You've seen it with not just Andrew Tate. There's so many, especially people lean in a little more to the right, where probably about to see it with, you know, we're already actually starting to see it with Russell Brand, even though he was one of the biggest liberals, but now he's exposing truth. So now they want to call him a far right, even though he's never even been close to the right. But there was a bunch of people there banned at the same time that Alex Jones was banned too. Oh yeah, a lot of

people. Yeah. I mean, there was people like all over their internet saying, I don't even understand they were going to Apple and going into their headquarters and asking them, why am I banned? Yeah. I don't get it. Well, it's because anytime you expose truth, you have this system. have this system that says, look, we are the government, and we're going to tell you how to operate and what to do, because if not, we're going to screw you on all these other things, right? So, Alex Jones was banned, and what they really hated more than anything was we started seeing these lawsuits pop up once they started to realize Alex Jones was going to be just fine on his own. When they saw that he got banned on everything, and yet he had his own little InfoWars.com,

and he was doing great in merchandise and people showed up to support him. I mean, it was like, just think about like a team, just think about a high school football team that travels, you know, I don't know, six hours away. And it's a team that you believe in.

It's a team that you want to go see and you want to go support. And you might think, you know, when you're going on a six hour trip, man, how many people are even going to show up and then you get to this stadium and you get to this stadium. And you get to a stadium.

stadium six hours away, you're obviously the away team. And then you look in your away stands and you have all these fans that showed up for you. This is what happened on Alex Jones. When he was banned and deplatformed by everybody, the stands were full. People came. They supported him. And they still do. Yeah, and they still do.

And they never will not. I mean, and that's the scary part. Listen, that's the scary part is they want to shut him down financially completely, right? that's one of the reasons they started asking well so so Alex you also get funding from your people um through bitcoin through bitcoin and and he's like yeah i do yeah i absolutely do and and so when the plaintiff's attorneys are asking these questions what they what they mean is we don't think you should ever be allowed to have any money ever again in your life like that is what they're saying they're saying you know we're suing you for this amount of money but oh i hear you got bitcoin that

are trying to pay you. Like, they don't think that this guy should even be able to survive. Or make a living. No, at all. Even though he's not even talking about that. Well, now he is. But hopefully he is talking about Sandy Hooks. I mean, he is talking about that trial.

Yeah, he's talking about that trial. Yeah, he's talking about that trial. Yeah, he has a right to say that. Listen, why is he even on trial for speaking his opinion? I still don't even get that. Okay. There's a lot of, there's a lot of people that don't believe 9-11 happened the way it did. There's a lot of people believe that. Well, a lot of families don't believe it. Yeah, a lot of

Oklahoma bombing people don't believe that. There's a lot of things that people don't believe is that saying that they're not allowed to have freedom of speech? Well, look, and here's the thing, and we'll make this clear, Sandy Hook obviously happened, and we're not even going to get into the Sandy Hook thing whatsoever. We're not, but the reality is, even if he didn't believe it, does he not have a freedom of speech? Yeah. It's just weird the whole case. It's like, if you, I, I, this is what blows my mind. Okay, so supposedly, and I'm going to say supposedly,

based on what we have been told by the court and whoever, that Alex Jones's, some of Alex Jones's followers harassed and threatened to kill some of these families or whatever. Okay. Now look, regardless of,

if that happened, that's awful. But I bet they didn't have to come up with one document, did they? Probably not. Absolutely not. Yeah, I would, well, I mean, better yet, it's not just one document. You make a great point there.

But, you know, if these families say, because this is a big thing they've been pushing really hard, is, well, these families are harassed and threatened. Okay. Well, if you are going to sue someone for this amount of money and literally try to end their entire being as a person, as a anything, like you want to completely basically kill them financially and everything else,

mentally, financially everything, And you say, okay, well, you present in court, well, these families were threatened. These families were this and this and this. But did Alex Jones threaten them? But listen, no, he didn't. But listen to me, that's the thing. It's like, it's hard. That would be part of the jury trial, right?

Is the jury would have to say, okay, well, because Alex Jones had an opinion about something, right? And he stated his opinion on what he believed happened or didn't happen for that matter. And then someone that listened to him then went on to threaten someone because of that, which, by the way, the media, there's people that go out and threaten people on the right all the time because of the shit the media pushes. Look at the Supreme Court guys. There are people going to their yards and threatening to kill them. Yes. People. Yeah, they're literally in their freaking streets.

I mean, and they are threatening their lives. They are doing all this shit. I mean, they're harassing these people. I mean, are anyone, the media, are they responsible? Who should be held accountable for that? Exactly. But so in this particular instance, though, have we seen anything that says, well, okay, so if this family was threatened because of what Alex Jones said, okay, and even if you bring in, say, a text message or a freaking email or whatever, well, then you're going to have some forensics guys trace these emails to make sure that you know who the conspirators of this was on. every level, right? Because you can't just be like, well, here's a screenshot of a text

much. Oh, that'll do. That'll do. You know what I mean? I mean, anybody could go create a account and send something. But my point is, and I'm not saying it didn't happen, but what I am freaking saying is that this is ridiculous, guys. What is going on with Alex Jones trial is based on what he said or believed or opinion. And he was also based on opinions on what many media people were saying, and not just media people. There were thousands of people that questioned that entire incident. We were never one of them. but there were thousands of people that did. And that should be your right to question things.

And it's like this is a trial to say, if you ever questioned a narrative on anything, we're going to sue you into oblivion. And we're going to make sure that your life can no longer be sustainable because we're going to hammer you into the effing ground. And I still remember in 2012 why they questioned what they did. I still remember this. I remember seeing like this dude.

Well, we're not getting into that. We're not getting into that. I'm just saying that I saw people saying that they were crisis actors or whatever. Yes, that was one. Okay. So what Alex Jones claimed was crisis actors, certain aspects of how the shooting happened. I think they were at the Ferguson thing. There were somewhere else.

Whatever. Who knows? We don't know. We're not going into that because we don't know anything about that. Yeah, but I'm just saying that's what people were claiming. But even if people claim that, I don't understand how you can get sued for that. Well, it's because the reality is, is that in my opinion, this. seems to be, and we've got to be careful how we say this because we don't even got to say what

our opinion is on this. We're just telling you what's happening. And so what is happening is, is that the court has found Alex Jones guilty based on default. Based on default. Yes, based on they're trying to say that he did not supply them with every little thing they asked for. and so that could be literally just the court or the plaintiff's attorney or whoever could say well we know you have something that says this maybe and then if Alex Jones doesn't have that right and then he goes and then the plaintiff attorney goes to judge

and judge says well that's the fault sorry if the plaintiffs because obviously the plaintiff's attorney is you know they love the plaintiff's attorney I guess but in this event if if he doesn't supposedly show everything that the court thinks he should show whether or not he has it or not is default and once you're default you're screwed you have no right to defense and this is a major issue we went through this in in some ways we were sued um the entire court case was a sham bullshit and i'm going to get a little passionate here and i think that's why we're so passionate about this

is because it happened to us yeah we're not going to talk about why or what happened we were sued in default too for no reason. Well, I will talk about what happened. I'm not going to talk about names. But basically, I was one of the top salespeople for a company. And I was kind of almost in the process. I was probably going to be the next sales manager for this position.

And long story short, and this was a huge company. It was, the company was, I'll put it this way. They're not owned by good people. And they're not even owned by Americans. We can say that. I'm sure. Well, they are technically Americans, I guess, citizens, I would assume. But anyways.

So, yeah, they, what had happened with some of my, and, you know, keeping in mind, my job was, you know, moving a lot of money and a lot of product and merchandise and just stuff like that, right? And so we dealt with a lot of big money. I mean, it was, it was huge amounts of money. when my customers, whether bought something for me or whatever the case may be, it was huge amounts of money they were putting down, sometimes millions of dollars. And so when there were a few things that happened in the course of my position there that I saw was effed up, they basically left my top customers out to dry because they screwed up, right?

And then I defended those customers. Then it was kind of a situation where they said, well, it's either the company or it's your customers. and you can choose basically, you know. And I was like, well, I'm not going to screw my customers over. I'm going to make sure they're taking care of. And so I was basically fighting for my customers against the company. You're fighting for ethics. Yeah.

Absolutely. And then so then I left the company and never had a non-compete agreement whatsoever, ever, never signed anything saying I wasn't going to compete. I wasn't going to do this. I wasn't going to do none of that. So anyways, I got out of the company, started my own company, was doing great. and yeah long story short i got sued uh they lied in court the entire time they brought a blank non-compete agreement in that i never signed was never presented the judge was like yep that sounds about right yeah that's blank non-competit agreement yeah that'll work you know and by the way

this company is huge they i believe have have a have attorneys in the state yeah they're they're huge in the state they own that state kind of uh in certain aspects uh especially the justice system. I've never seen the justice system more corrupt than this. This is the first time I really actually honestly thought, oh my God, the justice system is corrupt because I've never been in that situation. I'm sure other people have all the time.

You know, even with traffic tickets are being arrested for stuff, you know, and that can go back to, you know, black people being arrested or whatever. I know the justice system has not been fair to a lot of people, but this is the first time I've seen it not, fair to us. Well, I mean, I've seen the justice not be fair a couple times. No, this was a big one. Well, yeah, I mean, when you're, when you're sued for millions of dollars and then you get a default judgment based on a corrupt bullshit kangaroo court, and it's not just a kangaroo court, it's,

it's a lot of corruption, a lot of people probably paid off. You know, these, when you have a company like this that has, you know, judges or whoever possibly in their pocket, not possibly, they did. Your own attorney says there's nothing I could do because they're corrupt. Yeah. That's a problem. And you're at the helm of the justice system. And they royally screwed us. And it was to the point where it was, you know, I look at Alex Jones and kind of what he's facing right now.

Even though $45 million is a lot of money, we weren't far off. I mean, it wasn't $45, but. Well, there's times they were, they froze our bank account account. could not even go and buy groceries. Which was illegal in itself because I was not even the person they were suing and they shut my bank account down. Yeah, exactly. And that was another thing.

It was like this court was in another state. Sherry, you had nothing to do with this. And they froze my bank account. Her bank accounts. And put $10 million on my bank account. Well, you're not going to go in like crazy details. Well, you're already said to millions. I said millions. I didn't say 10.

but whatever. Okay, 10 million. I think it was actually close to 11. Yeah, whatever it was. And so anyways, we went through many processes, worked a lot of shit out, but it was hell for a while. I mean, it was hell for really three,

this court case lasted for three years. So I understand how just systems are corrupt and flawed because it was 100%. You know, I was, my customers were getting screwed. I was getting screwed, and I left the company. And I started my own company. I never had a non-repeat.

never signed anything saying I couldn't do that, never did any of that. And basically I got screwed. And I didn't have the money to fight a multi, multi-million, probably billion dollar company. I just didn't have, we didn't have the money. This was three years. I mean, we had enough money to pay a lawyer for three and a half years. But it's like eventually that gets, especially when we realize we're screwed anyway. Like they had zero evidence.

We had all the evidence that they were full of shit. And yet the judge ruled on everything and was a complete dick to my attorney. This was, you know, a ongoing non-stop process. This thing was published in media outlets across the United States. Literally. I mean, we're not just saying this. This was in media outlets, major media outlets. This was...

What was in law, like, law advice or something? Hey, we're not going into, like, shut up. Okay. You're saying too much. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. But it was in like, no, just stop. It was in articles.

Yes, but it was not just that. It was in all kinds of shit. Who cares? No, we do care. You can't just say that. Okay. Sorry. This is why I shouldn't even talk about this because you're going to say too much.

The point is, is that it's screwed up, and the just system is screwed up. It is. 100%. And Alex Jones is no different. But I, you know, I saw it with my own personal experience. or our own personal experience and you know this is going to take precedent

what has happened to Alex Jones being sued for his opinion on something that he thought or felt or just even talked about that someone else said they're what they're trying to say is is that if you guys

if any of you that ever get a platform enough to where people care and you say something whether or not it's you know what you believe to be true and I think we all should know and I'm not saying this about San Diego I'm saying this about anything

if we look back on every so many different aspects of things I mean we look back on the Martin Luther King thing you look at that court case that happened where the court literally said at the end of the court at the end of the trial based on

hunt I think it was like how many witnesses it was ridiculous amount of witnesses that they called over four weeks Corretta Scott King was one and her family was was who brought this case to trial about Martin Luther King. Right. And then the court ruled that it was the government's responsibility of why Martin Luther King died.

Yeah. Why he was assassinated. It was the government was the one responsible. And that was one court case. And if you think about that and you go back to that date, you think about courts were corrupt back then. So don't think they're not corrupt now. But listen, the government's always on the courts. They always own politicians.

That's how they're all put in place. I mean, we look at JFK. We look at so many massive. That's, you know, if you think that JFK, which I believe most people that know anything think that the JFK narrative, what they want you to think happen with JFK is not what at all what happened. Like, if you just think about that, that's JFK. That is one of the probably greatest Democratic or Democrat presidents that the United States has ever had. and JFK was assassinated. And if you believe that the government

or some entity ever had anything to do with that, and yet you're saying that people should not be allowed to question smaller things? Or talk about it? And I'm not saying saying they're smaller. I'm not saying it's smaller. I'm saying people are not allowed to question things, but yet, you know, it's now,

it's like the older we get and the longer time goes, more and more people are understanding the narrative around the JFK thing. More and more people do not believe the narrative of what the government officially said. That's really going on with everything now. You know, people are so focused with what the media wants you to believe.

But now that we have internet and we have social media, we're able to expand our minds and look outside their little box. And we are seeing things that aren't right. Oh, absolutely. I mean, we all are. Well, you know, it's one of those things.

We've talked about this before, but it's like social media. And, you know, when someone gets murdered or someone goes missing or whatever, do you know how many cases have been solved by social media? By these people creating groups on social media. And like, you know, within a few days amasses, thousands of people in these groups. These are a lot of times are women that are stay-at-home moms, that have nothing better to do than to investigate the shit out of everything.

And these women usually know more than the law enforcement, and the news. I mean, seriously. And so it's like, it's one of those things. It's like, I was thinking the other day, I said, if we ever do a true crime podcast again, we're going to go to these groups and be like, look, you just come on our podcast and you talk about what you think.

We're going to question you. Yes. And we'll find like the top person. They are like the experts. Yeah, because that's what they do. And, you know, we don't have time to investigate everything like that, especially murder stuff. But that is, you know, I was thinking about that it is.

like if we do that again. But look, my point is, is that what this, in my opinion, what Alex Jones's trial wants to set the narrative for is that you are no longer allowed financially. If you care about your family and you care about your life you live and you care about your house and your kids and your ability eat, you better not question something, especially publicly. Because if you do, look, we'll just have, we'll make sure. sure that you, you know, you cease to exist. And this is, look, this didn't just happen, Alex Jones.

This is happening with everyone that they've allowed so many people to build a following like they should. I mean, you know, you've got these massive media corporations like CNN and Fox News and MSNBC and all this, and they can go on media and say whatever the hell they want to say no matter what. And they're not being sued. But it's the people, it's the people that are outside the mainstream media that are really the true reporters. These are the people that are trying to push or trying to find the true information. I mean, and literally independent journalists are the number one source for true news, period, anymore.

And depending on who you listen to. Now, I'm not saying Alex Jones was right about Sandy Hook. And I think Alex Jones will tell you he don't believe he's right. I don't know what he truly believes. But I'm just saying I know that he probably definitely. definitely ain't going to say he's right now because, I mean, you know, that'll just be more lawsuits. But apparently there's been FBI agents that are suing him.

No, listen, but there's FBI agents or sue him. He questioned it. He didn't say this is what happened. He questioned it. Yeah, I mean, he did, but I mean, he did also make statements on that. But regardless, I don't know. I don't understand how that's defamation. That's what doesn't make sense.

If you say an event that happened, you believe didn't happen the way it did, and yet families are able to. to sue you for defamation? Saying, you know, if we look up the, let's look up the definition of defamation of character, which is basically, basically what they're suing him for. Defamation defined is typically defined as a false statement someone makes about you, which they publish as a statement of fact and which harms you personal and or professional reputation or causes you other damages, including finding.

financial loss or emotional distress. Okay. So, but that's the thing. Like, they, it doesn't look. I also, let me put it this way. I get the fact if you want to say like, okay, well, if this mom or parent was a crisis actor or whatever the case is, and then someone comes after you, whatever. I kind of understand that aspect. Okay.

but and I never If it was directly towards that mom Or that mom or that person Should be able to probably sue you for defamation Defamation yeah I would I would guess so If you said oh Susie Joe over there is a crisis actor Then she should be able to be suing Yeah but the reality too is is that we gotta think about this

You know 45 million dollars is what Because he believes that something was not the way it should have been. I mean, the problem with this, the problem with this whole entire situation is, is that freedom of speech is under attack. It is, and it's under attack, and the legal system is going to come after you,

and this is going to set president for it, period. Exactly what I said at the beginning of the show. And they're going to say that, you know, if, you know, you're hurting this, or you're hurting this, or you're hurting the government, or you know, if you say that the government is not right about something, well, you're going to cause mass terrorism.

I mean, they're already classifying people that believe in what they call conspiracy theories as domestic terrorists. They, you know, Joe Biden basically had a state of the union where he classified half of America as domestic terrorist, which is anyone that supports Trump or, you know, the rule of a law or freedom of speech or the Constitution, you're a terrorist. If you have a 2A sticker on your card, you're a terrorist. What if I said, I'm not saying it, I'm just saying it, what if? What if I said the FBI are terrorists? Well. Could they sue me for saying that?

No, who knows? I mean, they could arrest you for being a domestic terrorist for saying they're a terrorist. You know, it's like, I mean, that's the thing. What we don't understand. What we don't truly grasp in this whole thing is how much control the government has. I mean, I don't, I still don't think people realize how much the government controls are live on a everyday basis. I mean, literally, everything we do is controlled by the government.

Everything. I mean, taxes. I mean, if, you know, if you look at your paycheck when you get paid, and especially the more money you make, the more you're going to have to pay, you know, we're paying all this money. And has anyone stopped to think at this point? It's like, I mean, everyone has always said taxationist theft, right? I mean, it's if you, if you, if you, if you, you,

tax me is theft. You're taking money from me and I'm working and you and you use this money for bullshit, which is mostly what they use it for. And especially now. I mean, think about the reckless, absolute insane spending this government does now. They send billions of dollars to Ukraine all day, but they spend billions and trillions of dollars on bullshit that no one cares about. No, it's just all political bullshit. And yet they want to take. about it, Chad, but... They don't care about what. They're not asking us what they...

Who doesn't care about what? We want them to do with our money. They should not have our money. And I think, too, even though they have our money and they're recklessly spending... But they should not have our money. The point is, is they're spending money that they don't have. Yes, which is what I'm... Which is what's causing inflation.

But it doesn't matter. The point is, is at this point, you know, money is not backed by gold. That's all BS. That's why we have inflation. That's far gone. But no, but the money being backed by gold is far gone. The Federal Reserve is a civil entity, not a federal entity, although it says Federal Reserve, it's not technically part of the government.

It is a civil, it is an independently owned company. But what I'm saying, they control money and currency. People that have personal taxes that are going to the government is not touching what they're spending. No, it doesn't matter how much they taxed us. They are not taxing us to make up for their debt because they don't care about their debt. They're taxing us to better control us to keep us living every day paycheck to paycheck to where we're not financially free or independent or self-reliant. That is why they tax us. They do not tax us to make up for the reckless amount of spending they make.

You could tax the American people endless amounts of money and you're not going to make up for the bullshit you keep spending, especially this. It is way too far gone now. I remember 10 years ago when we were talking about the national debt. And it was like, oh my God, national debt says, I mean, I don't even want to look at it now. Yeah, we're like in the trillions or something. We've been, oh, my God. We've been in the trillions, but like, I don't even think that the readings are like... I don't even think there's a number to even say what we're in.

No, because there was a report... Honestly. There was a report not long ago that they actually stopped reporting, like, how much you're even spending anymore. I mean, and we don't know what they're really spending. And that's what makes the dollar worth nothing. No, well, the dollar is worth nothing. It is... The dollar is based on faith, which is what they say, is based on faith.

God and your ability to pay back. But they don't even care about God anymore. No, it's not about God. Well, God is on the dollar. No, but they're saying that, I know that. But what I'm saying is that used to, the whole point of the dollar was backed by gold. And now it's like now the official term is that it is backed by faith, by faith that it can be repaid. And that's no longer.

There is no way we're ever going to revive or survive the dollar. So now Joe Biden and all of them just recently signed a executive order to where they want to bring in the digital currency. No, not Bitcoin. They want to bring in the digital currency, a new digital currency, their own digital currency, which is probably going to be a part of the World New World Order System, the one world currency, which it mentions in the Bible a lot. And so they sign the executive order on this. And what this really does besides the fact that it is making digital currency a government thing now, probably a worldwide thing. It's going to more than likely be a digital currency that is adopted by the World and

the World Economic Forum, the New World Order, so on and so forth. What they really want to do with this is they want to be able to control you in every aspect, to where if you don't do or say or think what they want you to think, they can shut your shit off in an instant because it's all digital. It's not as much bank-oriented anymore. It's not as much any of that. It is going to be 100% government-oriented. and if they don't like what you say or you do not comply with what they want you to do,

then they shut your money off. That is what this new bill talks about. And listen, y'all, it makes me worried about everything that I have saved my whole life. Like, if it's retirement, if it stocks, if it's money in this or that. Like, I really worry about, am I going to have that money when I need that? No, probably not. And the thing is, everybody right now, and this is what's crazy. I know your mom and I've heard of some other people talk about this.

And I've actually been preaching this for a long time to you, Sherry, is, you know, right now stocks are way down. If you have a 401k or you have any of this stuff and you look in it, it's going to really depress. Oh, yeah, my stuff is way down. It's going to really depress you. And the thing is, is everyone just assumes it's going to go back up. Oh, someday it's going to, no, it's going to go back up. Don't worry.

But what if everything crashes to the ground? Well, you might as well just burn the money. Like the money never existed. And there are a lot of people now that are not being smart about where they have their money, how they have their money, and what they're doing with it. I know people that have cash money in drawers and lockboxes. But I know you think that's going to be worth anything either. Yeah, but it will be worth something now more than it is in a stock market that just killed half your money. And that, you know, that's the reality is right now, cash by far is worth more than what you just lost in the stock market over the past year.

I mean, you know, say you have 300,000 of stock market, and now it's worth 150, okay? So we know inflation is skyrocketing. We know that the interest rates are also skyrocketing. We know the administration and what's going to happen with elections and everything. We don't feel like it's going to get better, which therefore means that when they roll this new digital currency out, which I think they're going to do sooner than you think. Well, I'm hopeful of November, though. What they want you to do.

Yeah, we do. But what they want you to do is they want you to roll all your cash. cash money into this digital currency to where they really fully control you. Because then they're going to start saying, well, we're not going to take cash anymore. We need this digital currency to take place. And we want any of your 401k, any of your retirement, any of your anything else, you have to switch this to digital to where then they have full control over everything. And then, you know, there will be laws and amendments and all this stuff that be being put in place. Now, all this can happen very easily as long as if we think that things are rigged or the same.

system is, I don't know, for the people that believe the 2020 election was rigged or whatever, we're going to find out. We're going to find out in 2020, I mean, not 20, we're going to find out this year, November, a little bit, but I think really we're going to find out in 2024. There are political experts that believe this is, at the very least, going to be a hung election, meaning that it is going to be a disaster. It very well could start the actual civil war. if it's Democrats, they're not going to release power. Or even in November, we might see a lot of crazy shit that you would never think would have happened. We're going to probably see some of that in November.

I think we've already seen it a little bit. I mean, I, and don't get me wrong, this is not someone I really want to be like, oh, yeah, Sarah Palin, I can't believe she'll. I mean, but the reality is I really can't believe Sarah Palin lost in Alaska. That is strange. but I just if we start seeing that across the board right this is not some political bullshit but who in the hell well even like uh who would think this is good and his like little guy that he's running against you know the weird guy that looks like yeah i don't know you know john fetterman yeah he's like this betterman yeah what about him please help us like who

it doesn't matter about that i mean look the reality is is that you have a lot of people It's not about how many people you have to vote. It's about how your system is for voting. And look, I don't give a damn what anybody says. I don't believe what happened in 2020 happened. And they can call me a domestic terrorist for saying that. Oh, they can. Because they do.

And also go watch that 2000 mules or whatever it is show. Yeah, watch 2000. And you'll see it for yourself. But guys, the moral of this story, what we want to talk about tonight is, listen, be on Rumble tomorrow night. We're going to try to have a, we're going to talk about different things. We're going to have to get a good show together. really we might just kind of hang out talk to you guys more so not try to be so like i don't know try to not really talk about one particular topic tomorrow but we may just try to talk about just

hanging out and figuring out the whole video side of things because i mean you know who knows you guys might have to help us about we'll probably get hot and heated like we usually do we'll see no we'll figure it out um but what this podcast is about is just understand that this I believe not just this trial, but many others, is it is an attack on free speech, and it is going to set president for future lawsuits. If people don't agree with you, and I say people or organizations,

you know, they feel like now they're going to have more power to do so, to attack you to say that you cannot say what you say. They're going to make you, and really what their whole goal is, to make you afraid of saying what you think. And that's what their whole goal is. I've seen it, I believe, with Joe Rogan. I think Joe Rogan is more scared now

to talk about certain things than he used to be. He doesn't ever talk about a lot of that stuff. He's changed, in my opinion. And, you know, I think that's a product of what he went through. But it's like they wanted him to go through that so that they could say, see, Joe Rogan, if you want to talk shit again, go ahead.

It's kind of like they tamed the horse. Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, because they did. And yet the mainstream media is still talking their bullshit and talking whatever they want to say. Exactly. So it'll be interesting to see what happens with Alex Jones thing.

It'll be more so interesting to see what really happens. Why can I not hear this music? Is that weird to me? Can you hear it? Like, I don't get that. I just don't get it. So look, I'll put it back in. I'm trying to start music, guys.

See, we hope. that the podcast. What? It's going to be funny if they can hear it. But I don't think they can. That is so strange. I wonder if they can hear this song. Sorry, guys.

This is a weird ending. Holy crap. What is going on with that? Well, let's see if this one works. Oh, oh, oh. Oh, my God, it does work. That is so weird. Why does this one not work now?

They don't want you to hear it. That's weird. All right, guys. Listen, we're out. Thank you for listening to another. other investigative podcast episode. We hope that you join us on Rumble tomorrow night. Yeah, we're so excited, really.

We are. I'm excited. Guys, this is called Slide on Me, Zorro. Don't judge me. I found a kind of a cool sound of song. Well, don't judge me either, guys, because you know what? I don't judge you. All right, guys.

We love you. Until next time, peace out. Have a good night. Peace out, guys. I do you.