Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Andrew Tate & Tate Brothers | Victims of Matrix or Criminals?
Episode Date: March 10, 2025With Andrew and Tristan Tate finally returning to the United States after being permitted to leave Romania—where they faced years of accusations and criminal charges related to sex trafficking, tax ...evasion, and other alleged crimes—the debate surrounding them has reignited. Are the Tate brothers victims of what they call the Matrix, or are they criminals who have skillfully manipulated public perception? While many argue that they have openly admitted to their alleged wrongdoings through their own words and actions, their influence continues to grow, particularly among young, impressionable men who idolize their lifestyle. Are they the voices the right needs, or are they figures that should be rejected outright?
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Real me in to get it going, open me up, sweet talking like you mean it, but you're making it so complicated.
I fucking hate it.
Every time I get too close, you push me away, don't want a stick telling me you don't want any obligations and how you hate them.
Hello and welcome to Investigator Earth podcast.
I'm your host, Chad, alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry.
On tonight's episode, we're diving into one of the most controversial and polarizing stories in modern media.
which is the rise in the fall and the battle of the Tate brothers.
Love them or hate them.
There's no denying the impact Andrew and Tristan have had, not just on social media,
but also on the global conversation about masculinity, power, and control.
From their meteoric rise and influence to the legal battles that have kept them in the headlines,
the real question is how much of what we've been told is the truth
and how much is carefully crafted narrative designed to take them down.
We're breaking it all down tonight.
Guys, welcome to the show.
It is March the 9th, 2025.
We have sprung forward today.
So we have one extra hour of daylight.
Thank God.
And I hope that President Trump and his team will just keep that the way it is.
I know.
But you do lose an hour of sleep, which is really hard, especially when you're working like a eight to five job.
Yeah.
Yeah, but I like that extra hour.
I like the extra hour of daylight.
I mean, think about it.
If you go to work eight to five and in the winter, you get off at five o'clock, you have, what, 20 minutes of daylight?
Yeah.
So I'm right there with you.
I wish they would just keep it and not change.
it back and forth because it's so hard to adjust, especially when you get up early in the morning.
Yeah, absolutely. But tonight, guys, we're going to be talking about Andrew and Tristan Tate.
We've talked about the Tate Brothers probably two or three times on this show. And I believe our
first episode on them was very critical of the Tate Brothers. I'll be completely honest with you.
I, when I started hearing, watching the videos, watching some of the audio that came out from them,
but even just more so, if you just watch their content, especially two or three, four years ago,
you didn't necessarily have to go and search for it.
They set it on a regular basis.
And then for some reason, somehow, the right, the people on the right have kind of
gathered around the Tate Brothers and supported them and kind of champion the Tate Brothers
is like, hey, here's our guys that are not there speaking truth.
And I think part of that may be because of how much the left went against them.
But more specifically, it's like a very big pendulum swing.
where on the left you have the they want to make you think that all men are bad especially if you're
white male you're you're horrific you are evil we must get rid of you we don't even want to date
you anymore so we'd rather just be lesbians than ever have to date a man and then so you had to
take brothers that kind of came on the other side of this where men felt like damn i ain't shit
anymore even though i work my ass off every day i tried my very best to support my family and
all this stuff and then you hear mainstream media and the left
consistently putting you down as a man, you then had the Tate brothers kind of coming out
and champion the masculinity role. And so obviously the left, they would say, well, this is misogyny.
And the Tate brothers and a lot of people that followed him said, no, this is alpha male type energy,
right? This is what we need back in society because we've lost so much of that.
You know, if we ever got into a war nowadays, especially like in the Romans days, right,
where you actually had battlefield commanders and you had these guys that had sword.
and spears that would go out there and spear each other.
And it was, you know, not only was it like a sport, but it was just part of their alpha
nature of being a man, the hunter nature.
This is what I think society has lost a lot of because of all the beta males.
Let's just be honest.
Yeah.
And we've gotten so woke with the other administration.
They want men to be beta.
And Andrew Tate especially, yeah, beta.
Andrew Tate especially does not believe.
believe in beta males.
And he also preaches about the Matrix a lot.
And I think why that's why the Republicans gather around him and support him more than the
Democrats.
Yeah, I think in guys and girls, I'm going to go ahead and tell you right now, if you
have kids or whatever and your kids are listening along, may not want to listen to this
episode because there's a lot of clips we're going to go through and there's a lot of stuff
we're going to go through that you probably don't want kids listening to.
and some of these clips are coming from Andrew Tate himself,
where he has recorded his interactions with females in the past.
We're also going to just play clips to where he's talking about things he believes in.
And so there's a lot of cursing in some of these clips.
But I think it's important because it is interesting, right?
He is now in the United States.
He just recently flown to the United States from Romania,
which we're going to go through the charges and a lot of the stuff he's kind of went through
alongside his brother in Romania.
And obviously, once he started all of this and he started getting arrested and being accused and I guess also charged with sex trafficking and conspiracy and racketeering, there's so many charges that he's been charged with in Romania, although none have actually convicted him of anything yet.
They've held him not only under house arrest, but also in jail for quite a while without actually officially saying, hey, we technically have probable cause on all of this.
stuff. They really never, it seemed like, could get probable cause. But what I want this podcast
to do is we want to talk about the role of a man in today's society, right? That's number one.
And I've asked quite a few people this question on both the male and female side over the past
couple weeks, just kind of leading into the show. And it's interesting how many women actually agree
and support Andrew Tate, but then I also have a lot of guys I've asked. And I've actually, I was going to
have a couple of guys on the show and they're like, I don't know if you want me on the show because if you're
going to go anywhere in like the other direction.
You know, I don't know if I want to be that hated by everybody that loves Andrew Tate.
Yeah.
Or sorry, everybody that hates Andrew Tate is what I meant.
Because a lot of people agree with the Tate brothers.
I mean, a lot of people just do not believe that the stuff that they say is bad for society.
And although I think that the Tates are like chamellions or they are like lizards to where they
will adapt to whatever scenario they are in, if you go back and look at their content,
even just four or five years ago.
and now you look at the content they are producing now,
they've definitely went more on the political side
to where they are utilizing this matrix attack scenario, right,
to where they want to bring on that whole right base of people that says,
yes, we know about the matrix attacked because, you know,
Donald Trump was attacked.
And many people on the right feel like they themselves were also attacked the past four years.
So there's a common bond of people that say,
they look at Andrew Tate, they look at Romania,
they look at what they've been through in the legal system,
and they're comparing that to Donald Trump.
They're comparing that to people on the right.
And so they think it's very similar, almost identical.
But I think that there is some things that are not necessarily as identical.
No.
And we have to talk about those on this show.
Sure, you've obviously heard the line of, and I've always known this, right,
is a lot of women go for assholes, you know,
You've always heard like the nice guy finishes last.
Yeah, that's why I'm married to you.
Which is because I'm a nice guy?
You actually gave me a chance.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
No, but there's a lot of women to go for assholes, right?
And why is that?
Like, what is the pull of an asshole guy for women?
Like, what do you think it is?
I think you have to go back to evolution and you have to think about the strongest and the fittest.
And women or females, even animals, they go for the strongest male to mate with.
That's true.
And it goes back to that.
Women want strength in their family.
And they want, you know, some of them are like the crazy girls on the Democrat side.
No, we're equals.
We're 50-50.
That's all bull crap.
I don't believe in that because women want the strongest man to be a part of their family and be the hierarchy of the family.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, like you said, I mean, even in Africa, right?
The female lions, they want the strongest males because not only are the strongest males in the field or in the Sahara or whatever,
not only are they going to protect them, the lionesses, which, by the way, a lot of times the lionesses will also protect the males,
but they want that male to protect their tribe, their group, their pack, I guess.
What is it called a, what's the lion group called?
Oh, gosh, why did you even ask that?
That is a trivia.
A pride.
Yeah, the pride of lions.
So females often go for the strongest males.
And the strongest males typically battle it out with other males to be awarded that female.
And oftentimes a female, the same thing in wolf packs as well.
You talked about that before.
Like in a wolf pack, you have the strongest males typically.
And even if you look at a line of wolves, and oftentimes when they travel over long distances,
you will have in some cases like 40 wolves.
And you always think that.
the alpha, the most alpha wolves are traveling up front. They actually are not. A lot of times,
and it's very interesting how nature works, but how they coordinate the strongest males
versus the, you know, kind of mid, the mid males, and then probably you have some beta males
somewhere. I think they put them maybe up front. I think they put them up front. Or maybe the
mid up front, I would think. I don't know, but the alpha males are always near, not only the,
you know, the young wolves and the females, but they're usually somewhere in the middle. They also
put them in the back to protect the back of the pack because oftentimes attacks come from the
back.
But without getting off topic, the thing is, is that there's so many guys who are like, well,
I'm a nice guy and, you know, I treat women good and I do things for them.
I open their car doors.
I get them roses.
I take them to dinner.
I buy them nice things.
And then she won't even text me back.
I don't even get it.
Why does she not text me back?
It's like, because you're not a big enough asshole, I guess, right?
Like you shouldn't open your door for the woman.
And this is Andrew Tate talking now.
Why would you ever open the door for her?
You must make her open the door for you.
And this is kind of Andrew Taiton's, you know, mentality.
It's like, I don't need a woman.
You know, you are afforded me because I allow you to be in my life because, you know, I am the most alpha.
I am the, you know, I am the king of the jungle per se.
And that's the way that their mindset thinks.
And there's also a correlation between testosterone levels and men.
And men, when you, obviously, when you start seeing transitioning, even in the trans community,
where number one thing you have to do for males is you have to bring down testosterone, because
testosterone is going to give you that alpha type mentality.
It's going to make you feel more of a man than it would ever a female.
And then the same thing kind of goes back and forth.
You have to screw with people's, what do you call it, their either testosterone or estrogen
or whatever, the hormones.
Yeah, you've got to screw with that.
And I know when my testosterone has been low, you know, it affects you in so many ways.
It affects like your.
Yeah, it makes you out.
Bitch.
No.
Just kidding.
No, but listen, it affects your vigor.
It affects your like want and need to like want to go work out or want to go do things.
Right.
Even sexually.
All that stuff it affects.
But as your testosterone is raised, especially if you work out, you're in the gym all the time,
you're building muscle.
You're also building testosterone.
And which then in turn, and Sherry knows that.
Like even when I work out consistently, my mindset and the way I believe about things and the way I feel about things, I'm a lot more aggressive, I guess, in some ways.
Same way you would take testosterone if you're injecting it or a steroid.
That's why it makes guys roid rage, I guess, in a lot of cases.
Because when you're building that testosterone level up, your mentality for fighting and that almost primal nature about who you're supposed to be based on our ancestors comes out.
and it comes out in the testosterone levels and just your mentality.
So a lot of people look at entertain them and say, well, their testosterone is going to be
through the roof.
And that's why they're as alpha as they are.
That's why they believe that every especially female is beneath them.
And so the big question with this whole podcast is going to be, is this the right way to look
at the way men should be?
And are these good role models, especially for people that are growing, young kids that are
growing up 13, 14, 15 years old, males, are these the right role models?
Or is this just as bad as the left saying that you should be a beta male and eating
soy or drinking soy lattes and maybe even one day transitioning?
You know, in my mind, it's like two very, very stark differences.
But I think it could also be equally as bad for young males.
If I weren't married right now and I was dating and I was dating a male, I'm much
rather have an alpha male than a beta male.
Well, of course, yeah.
You would think so, right?
And I think most women are like that.
Yeah, some.
Now, there are some women that probably have too much testosterone in them and they want a beta male.
Well, but there's also the ideology now of like, especially women on the left that hate the male masculinity aspect, right?
They hate that.
And so if they are going to go out and look for a male, they're going to look for the exact opposite of what you're saying and what many women have wanted for
many years. And this all goes back to the fact of, you know, back in the day, or ancestral days,
the male had to go out and hunt. They also had to protect the family. They had to go out and fight
wars and battles. And do you want a beta male to go out and do that for your family? Hell, no,
you don't because you're never going to see them again. As soon as they walk away,
they're going to probably fall in a ditch and die because they don't know how to get out of a ditch
or maybe they get hypothermia.
Maybe they got stuck by a briar and they've panicked.
It's just the society and the world we live in today has changed a lot.
And I think that there has been a concerted effort to demasculate men, especially over the
past 10 to 15 years, because men are the biggest threat to globalist.
They are the biggest threat to the globalist power and regime because you can't just go
and invade a country with a bunch of alpha males that are like ready to fight.
They're ready to take up their arms and are ready to whoop your ass if you're going to come
into this country or you're going to try to say, hey, you're going to, oh, you're going to be
a totalitarian government over us.
You're going to be a dictator over us.
All right.
All right.
Bet.
Let's see what happens, right?
But if you have a bunch of beta males that are also conformed with the socialists and
globalist system, then you have no people that are there to fight you.
And I think literally that is why they've been trying to demasculate men for many,
many years because without real alpha men, then you can easily walk into a country and take it over.
And that's the scary thing.
And it is.
And I want to just reverse the role for just a minute.
What do men find more attractive?
Alpha women or beta women or in between?
Well, number one.
Because what do you consider me?
Well, you're definitely not beta woman.
I mean, you're like if you're on like on a scale, you know, you want to be alpha.
But you do, I mean, amongst amongst, like, you know, most women that are kind of either
submissive or something like, you're, you're submissive to like a degree, but you're also not.
And so that's why we've butted heads before.
We have a lot of the same traits and personalities.
You know, I've often said this, especially with wolves, and I didn't get to this, but
wolves, the female wolves, when they have their partner, their male wolf, the alpha wolf, you know,
when the male wolves are in a fight, you actually see the female wolf come and put her head up under the male wolf's neck.
And the reason why she does, yeah, the juggler vein.
And so as this fight starts, the female will go up under the neck and try to protect, you know, her, I guess, alpha male from getting bit in the throat because that's usually how wolves will die.
But this also allows for the male wolf an advantage to be able to possibly get the other wolf.
So it's a very coordinated plan.
And wolves are different because you do have alpha female wolves in wolf packs, right?
They're not as submissive as some other animals or some other packs of animals or whatever the case is.
Even lionesses, to where lionesses are not like that.
They will defend their children or their cubs or whatever you call them, but they don't necessarily fight for their males as much as female wolves do.
So that's a very interesting thing.
So I want to get to this real quick.
Let's go over some of what Andrew and Tristan Tate have been accused of.
They are obviously former kickboxers.
They turn social media influencers.
They face multiple legal challenges across several countries,
primarily involving allegations of human trafficking, rape, and organized crime.
In Romania, the initial investigation and arrest in April of 2022,
the Romanian authorities initiated an investigation into the Tate's following reports
that an American woman was being held against her will at their residence in Pipera.
A raid uncovered two women who claimed they were detained leading to an inquiry into
human trafficking and rape.
Then you also had the detention and charges.
So December 22, on December 29th, the Tates were arrested on suspicion of human trafficking,
rape, and forming an organized crime group.
Prosecutors alleged they were using the lover boy method to lure women into producing
pornographic content against their will.
The indictment in June of 2023, the brothers, along with two associates, were formally indicted on charges of human trafficking, rape, and forming a criminal organization.
And they have consistently denied all allegations.
Now, the expanded investigation, August 24, remaining authorities expanded their investigation to include additional charges such as trafficking minors, sexual relations with a minor, money laundering, and attempting to influence witnesses.
Now, this phase identified 35 alleged victims, including one,
who was a minor at the time.
Then you also have United Kingdom.
There were past allegations in 2015 that Andrew Tate was arrested twice in this year,
following accusations of rape and assault by two women.
Despite a four-year investigation,
the Crown Prosecution Service did not file charges,
citing insufficient evidence.
You also have European arrest warrant in March of 2024.
Westminster Magistrate's court issued a European arrest warrant for both brothers
on charges related to sexual aggression between 2012 and 2015.
Romanian courts approved their extradition to the UK to occur after the conclusion of the Romanian trial.
So they are still awaiting that.
So likely they will be extradited to the UK in Westminster.
Now, they also were wanted for tax evasion allegations in July of 2024.
Devin and Cornwall police initiated civil proceedings against the Tates for alleged tax evasion linked to their online businesses.
Approximately 2.8 million in unpaid taxes were seized following a court ruling.
And then the latest thing, which we're also going to talk about, the United States.
They returned in February of 2025 just towards the end of the month.
And after remaining authorities lifted travel restrictions, the Tates returned to the United States arriving in Florida.
Now, the decision reportedly followed pressure from the Trump administration, though official confirmations are lacking.
And Trump has denied even knowing about any of that.
He's actually been asked about that by a journalist.
And he had denied even knowing anything about what was going on.
Now, the Florida investigation, which has happened recently, I mean, literally a week ago, Florida Attorney General James Uthmeyer announced a criminal investigation into the Tates emphasizing the state's zero tolerance policy toward human trafficking and Governor Ron DeSantis also expressed disapproval of their presence in Florida.
And this is just one of the things that Ron DeSantis said as the Tate brothers arrived into Florida and keeping also in mind, the Tate brothers are United States citizens.
And so as Ron DeSantis came out in this press conference and said this, that they're not welcome in Florida.
And you had people like Candace Owens and others, which have interviewed Tate.
And, you know, Candace Owens has actually been a pretty big supporter of the Tate brothers.
They said, how is the governor of Florida going to say that they're not allowed in Florida when they're American citizens?
And there's no charges against them in the United States.
And it's like she said, aren't we glad that Ron DeSantis is not president?
So this is what Ron DeSantis had to say.
This is a very brief clip, but this is something he had to say about the news about Trump,
or sorry, not Trump, but about the news that Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate were arriving back into Florida.
Listen.
Is he welcome here?
What the state should send back to Romania or whatever?
We have no involvement in that.
I read about it through the media.
Clearly, the federal government has jurisdiction, whether they want to rebuff his entry into the United States.
and I have confidence that whether it's Pam Bondi or Christy Noem, that they will be looking at that.
I do know our Attorney General, James Uthmire, is looking at what state hooks and jurisdiction we may have to be able to deal with this.
But the reality is, no, Florida is not a place where you're welcome with that type of conduct in the air.
And I don't know how it came to this.
We were not involved.
We were not notified.
I found out through the media that this was something that was happening.
So the big question here is, is that Ron DeSantis, knowing that the Tate brothers have yet to be actually convicted of anything, there's technically no evidence.
They have had to throw out essentially most things.
I mean, now the cases in Romania are still pending.
But they have been for like two years.
They put them in jail, take them out of jail.
Put them in jail, taking them out of jail.
And took all their money.
Took all their assets, took everything they possibly.
had, then they would return some of the stuff.
Some of the stuff they still don't have back.
But how do you, as a Florida governor, go in and say, well, you're not welcome in Florida,
although you're an American citizen, and without any charges at all?
It's like they're looking for charges.
So who is in charge of telling the DeSantis team that, hey, the Tate brothers are in your
state, we need you to help us to screw them.
It's almost like, for some reason, Romania let them go to the United States, maybe in an
effort to get the United States to charge them.
and prosecute him some way.
Possibly.
But the backstory I heard was that Trump offered for them to come to the United States for a
safe haven for them to come back and nothing would be happening to them is what my backstory or
what I heard.
And then when they got to Florida, I hear this DeSantis stuff saying, no, no, no, you're not
welcome in Florida.
You're not coming here.
My opinion is they've done nothing criminal as to what I know of in Florida.
so there are no charges to charge them.
So why would they not be welcomed back into Florida?
And I just want to briefly say that the charges that were in Romania,
all those quote unquote victims came out and said,
no, this is not happening.
Every person that was a Jane Doe or whatever,
people that were living in the houses in Romania,
where they're making all the money with the only fans or whatever they were doing,
none of these women came out and said they were held
against their will, being raped or anything to that matter.
They were there on their free will.
Yeah.
No, you're exactly right.
And I do have to play this because Dana Bush, which is a political commentator on CNN,
and obviously we do not trust CNN whatsoever, but I just want to play this clip to you
guys to make you understand what mainstream media is saying about the Tate Brothers.
This was just released in February 27th of this year.
And this is some of what they were talking about as far as the Tate Brothers.
This is what mainstream media wants you to believe.
I even asked my mom today if they knew who the Tate brothers were, and she did.
She did?
Yeah, I was like, wow.
So this must be all over mainstream.
So here's what CNN has to say.
Accused sex traffickers and right-wing media personalities, Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan
are back in the United States.
The Tates left Romania on a private jet early this morning and landed in Florida moments ago.
Authorities in Romania banned them from leaving the country, where they are facing criminal charges
for human trafficking, rape of a minor, money laundering, and launching an organized crime group.
They have denied wrongdoing. The Financial Times is reporting that the administration pushed for
their travel ban to be lifted while awaiting their trial and that Trump special envoy,
Richard Grinnell, brought the brothers up when talking to the Romanian foreign minister earlier this
month. Now, Romania's foreign minister denied that he came under pressure from the Trump administration.
Grinnell told the Financial Times, he did not have a substantive conversation with the foreign
minister, but he did say, quote, I support the Tate Brothers as evident by my publicly available
tweets. The brothers rose to international fame on their social media platforms for rants about
men's superiority and the submission of women. She belongs to her man now. They're married,
they're happy, they're in love, they have a child. The saddest, most miserable women of the world
are women who are sluts.
All of them.
They are unhappy.
Arranged marriage, all works out perfect.
Let's go to Saudi.
We need to bring it back.
Where the 19-year-old,
I've had one guy from high school just broke up.
She's fresh, and I can put my imprint on her.
CNN's chief media analyst, Brian Stelter, joins me now.
Brian, the Tates are very well-known in the so-called manosphere.
Why is that overlapping right now with Maga World?
It's a reaction of feminism.
It's a celebration of far-right ideology.
it's in some ways an attempt to make America misogynistic again.
If you think about the MAGA slogan,
make America great again,
this effort by these podcasters,
these online influencers in the so-called manosphere,
is an attempt to drag the country
and drag the world back to norms from many decades ago.
And it has been embraced and sanitized
by some figures in MAGA Media.
Hucker Carlson, for example, traveled to Romania
to interview Andrew Tate while Tate was under house arrest.
And he really sanitized and minimized the charges against Tate.
But today, Dana, there's a real severe,
divide on the right about the Tate's coming home to the U.S.
A few moments ago, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis said the Tates are not welcome in Florida,
and I'm seeing real arguments on X among MAGA media influencers about whether to
embrace or condemn the Tates because of their alleged behavior.
You know, the pair also faced sex offense charges in Britain, which they have denied.
I'm curious to see if Kier Starmor has asked about this later today.
Women there in the UK have charged Andrew Tate with rape, coercive control, and other trauma.
But even if you believe his denials, just watch his videos and see what he has claimed in his own words.
Look at his tweets in his video history.
He has bragged about choking, strangulating, abusing, beating women, manipulating and controlling them.
This is a portrayal of masculinity that most men not only don't recognize, they would never want to talk about.
But there's this phenomenon on the internet of rubbernecking where people slow down and they look at this crash.
They look at this accident.
They want to see what he's talking about.
And that is why, Dana, these men have gained millions of followers.
Really, really stunning.
So there you go.
And that's what CNN is essentially saying about the tape brothers.
Now, you know, it goes one of two ways, right?
You, as stealthor says here, that, you know, they want to bring America back to the way
misogyny used to be in America.
But there is some good about male masculinity.
Yes.
There is a lot of good.
And I actually think that there's a breakdown of the nuclear family in the United States or America because of the fact that you have both male and female that are working and the school systems or daycare or whoever are taking care of the kids predominantly.
You know, back in historical days, you had the male always out there working, providing for food and shelter and insecurity.
And you had the female in most cases staying at home, taking care of the kids,
taking care of the house.
And there are two very distinct groups of people that believe one way is the way it should still be today.
And then now you've obviously have this push from the left that says women are equal to men,
even to the point of maybe we should start allowing men to play in women's sports and vice versa,
and we're going to start transitioning.
But I think that we look at the problem with our kids nowadays.
Right.
And even especially like in inner cities where there's, you know, fathers are not at home anymore.
And it's a big problem, I think.
It really is.
And if you think about it, Chad, when I was growing up, it was more.
The mom was kind of still at home, taking care of the kids, doing homework with them.
And, you know, maybe had a part-time job or something, maybe.
But the male was the main role that went and got the money and brought it home.
And mom was at home.
Well, I'm just telling you, that is a.
full-time job being a mother to your children.
Yeah.
That is a glorious job to be a full-time mom.
I wished so bad when my daughter was growing up at the time I was divorced.
Thank God I met you and we got married.
But, well, I was divorced.
I had to work and I could not take care of her the way I wanted to.
And I think also when you're talking about inner cities, think about Chicago, for example.
You know, so many of these kids don't have male role models.
They have mom.
They have grandma.
They don't know what it's like to be in a home with a mother and a father.
Which is why they oftentimes go to gangs because they find a role, sorry, a role model in a lot of the, you know, senior gang members.
Right.
That's why they go to gangs in most cases.
So a lot of the gang activity we see, if you look at the house of these gang members, oftentimes they do not have dads in the house.
and that is because most of the time their dads are locked up.
They left the family.
They were also involved in gangs and there's a perpetual cycle that never ends.
And you think about the times when like leave it to Beaver was on, for example.
I don't even think we knew what a gang was back then.
There were gangs and some, yeah, I mean, you got to think even back to Cowboy days on the show.
They had gangs.
They had the posseys and all that stuff back in day.
But still, I would safely say that the nuclear.
family was still more put together then than ever is today. But you have to have a male role model
in a house and you also, I believe, need a female role model in the house to play both roles.
When you have both of those missing in whichever way, it can hurt in some ways. It can hurt the
development of a child. It can hurt a lot of things. And the same thing goes, though, if you are
in an abusive household or whatever, that also highly affects you going forward in your life. So it's a very
interesting concept. I think obviously the left is trying to push so hard towards the other side.
And then you have the right, many of the people on the right that are embracing the Tate brothers
because they are, it's like we've always said. And I think it's almost similar to what happened
potentially in 2024 with Donald Trump. You saw what happened under Joe Biden and the Kamala Harris
administration. And then there was a massive pendulum swing on the other side to where people are like,
ain't no damn way in hell. I'm going through another four years under the Biden and Harris administration
because I've been worried that we're going to be in nuclear war
and we have a president that came and speak.
So what did they do?
Well, they voted hardcore on the other side.
And I think this is kind of what we're seeing with the Tate brothers.
You're seeing the males come out in support of him,
even if they would have never necessarily supported brothers like that
that have said some of the shit that we're going to get to in a minute.
Right.
And I just want to point that out too because there are some things they kind of go overboard with.
And I don't think that most women like what they say about women,
and calling them sluts and thinking that they own women,
I don't think a marriage means you own a woman.
I think marriage is not 50-50, but it's 100,000, in my opinion.
And you have to give that support to the woman as much as the woman gives it to the male.
Yeah, absolutely.
So here is what some of the Tate brothers have said themselves.
Let's see in Andrew Tate's own words, what good people they are, according to this Post.
on X, and we will play this.
It's not that long of a clip, but let's listen.
Girls were groomed, trafficked, abused, raped.
Formal charges against Andrew Tate include rape, human trafficking,
the trafficking of minors, sexual intercourse with a minor.
I was 14 and 15 during this period when I was raped and trafficked regularly.
I asked around to my other friends and my classmates,
who are also 15, 16 at a time.
And a couple of them also told me they received messages.
It was a pretty well-known fact that he had kind of a network of young girls.
So Vivian's moving six years.
Vivian's like 21.
Vivian's 21.
And at this point, been her girlfriend for six years.
It means that they met when she was 15 years old.
Just as I'd found in Rotherham and Rochdale,
the gangs of abusers use the boyfriend model of exploitation to lure in their victims.
The boyfriend truck is a type of exploitation when it comes to victims of you and trafficking.
It's also known in the house, the lover boy method.
I'm accused of using a method of human trafficking called the lover boy method.
It's basically where someone is dependent or is people dependent on that person, gets them falling in love with them.
They then exploit them.
My, my M.O. was fine girls, make them love me and make them work for me.
And that's how I got rich.
While my abuses threatened, raped and violated me, they were also kind.
You cannot run this business through fear.
And this is one of the biggest things people don't understand about the pimp game.
Even street pimping.
They think that you can do it through fear, that you can scare it.
and you can intimidate girls.
If you're going to scare a girl and put her on the street,
she's just going to walk off and leave.
We never see her again.
She has to respect you and love you.
That's right.
Lock the door, you knew I was going to beat the...
Okay, to that last clip, there is a clip where Andrew Tate is with this girl.
Don't know how old the girl is.
Would love to identify who this girl is.
But this was a video that was posted,
and Andrew Tate was asking her to show him,
bruises that he had put on her and why that he did this.
This is a very short clip, but I want you to hear this.
And towards the end of the clip, it has her running into the hotel room.
It looks like they're in the, I guess, the hallway of some hotel.
And so, you know, when I guess he's not, he's looking the other way or whatever,
she runs into the hotel room and locks the door.
But this is the conversation between the two at the time.
And so you guys can, I guess, take from it what you.
will. What are you matter about, woman?
Bruges.
Bruges why?
Why?
You can't be it.
Being with what?
With what?
You have.
I'm a f***ed out because you're a jerk.
Show me the bruises.
One, three.
I have an idea.
I'm an idea.
You knew I was going to beat the fuck out of you.
If you behaved, I wouldn't have to hit you, would I?
You don't get out.
You can't say enough forever.
So that was when she ran in the room and locked the door.
He said, yeah, you ran in and locked the door because you knew I was going to beat the fuck out of you, didn't you?
And that to me is an abusive relationship.
Yeah, that's very abusive.
Like 100% abusive.
And so we got to play this stuff because I want you guys to understand there are a ton of people on the right that are coming up in defense.
all these big time podcasters, Patrick Beck, David, the Hodge twins, basically anybody that can get the Andrew Tate or the Tate bros on their show will get them on.
They will platform them and they will make them out like they are the smartest guys on the freaking planet and we should all be following them.
But there's this guy that I kind of ran across one of his videos last night.
And I also want to say, these guys are innocent until proven guilty in a court somewhere, right?
because this is very controversial stuff.
We don't know exactly to the extent anyway of how guilty they are for the allegations
of trafficking and so on.
But at the very least, I want to play some of the clips to you guys so you understand
where a lot of people are coming from when they're saying,
why are people defending the Tate Bros?
Now, the misfit Patriot over on X, and he has a post.
He says, one day you'll all be thinking me for being obsessed with Andrew Tate.
This guy has been obsessed.
he post videos all the time about the Tate Brothers.
And it sounds like he's more on the right, obviously, than he is on the left.
But his entire thought process is why in the hell is the right defending this guy?
Why are they platforming him?
Just like last night at the UFC event, you had the Tate brothers or Andrew and Tristan Tate.
The night before, Dana White welcomed them into, I think it was like, I don't know, some of the, not the prelims, but the slap contest or whatever that thing, the new thing he's got.
But wasn't Andrew a fighter?
before he became this YouTube star.
Yeah, he was.
But, you know, and so Dana White says,
welcome to the U.S. boys and all this stuff.
And it's just like everybody is championing the tape brothers.
Now, I'm not saying that that's a bad thing or good thing.
We don't know for sure if they're guilty or innocent
until they go through court and, you know, court is played out.
But this is what the misfit patriot had to say about his thoughts on this.
Listen closely.
Good morning, Internet.
You know, I've covered a lot of topics over the years.
and sometimes I go really hard at some of them.
I highlight them because I think that they're important issues.
And I notice that when I do that,
people who don't want me to talk about those things,
they're like, you're obsessed, go touch some grass.
And I'm like, yeah, okay, yeah, maybe.
Maybe I am.
But you know what else you can do?
You can shut the thup because it's my page.
Why am I obsessed with Andrew Tate?
Right?
Is it jealousy or am I?
Am I trying to pull a fire alarm because you idiots don't see what I see, which is this motherfucker is trying to hurt Donald Trump bad.
Last night, here's a nice little photo up with Dana White.
Dana White is one of Trump's best friends.
What have I been warning you about when you have Timu Epstein charged with
sexually assaulting minors in two different countries
now under investigation in this country,
it might be a good idea not to stand next to that mother
and take a photo.
But some of you are too stupid to figure that out.
Yeah, motherfucker's been here a week.
He's already buying black people.
And yeah, I said buying because this interview
that these tooth and retards did
is a puff piece, all right?
And you probably only do a puff piece
on somebody who's got very credible accusations
of sexual assault.
And he's talking about the Hodg twins, by the way.
If you don't know who the Hodg twins are
or the conservative twins, as they call themselves now,
that's who he's referring to.
They just didn't interview with Andrew Tate
after a PVD podcast.
If the Mucka paid you,
guess prostitution's legal in Vegas again.
Look, I understand that
I in no way more about this than you
and you're not interested, so you don't want to see it all over your timeline, all right?
But you can just scroll on.
I don't know how many mothers I've woken up with the reporting that I've already done,
but trust me when I tell you, based on the conversations that I've been having, it's working.
So, I'll be obsessed.
Andrew Tate praising Yaya Sinwar, Hamas, right?
Praising him.
Andrew Tate became a Muslim, by the way, right?
I don't know if you guys remember those people sometimes blow up buildings and shit.
They also have a history of, you know, fuck little kids.
The Iraqi age of consent is nine years old in 2025.
But I don't think that Andrew Tate's a real Muslim because he's smoking, drinking, and gambling on Ramadan.
No, no, no, it's a grift, right?
He had a grift to be a Muslim when he was accused in Romania, and now he has a grift, and he's changing it up again.
follow along with me. I'll take you down the rabbit hole.
Okay, so not that long ago, you have Andrew Tay praising literally a terrorist leader,
okay, calling Israel genocidal, saying that they're committing a genocide.
He went on Pierce Morgan, and he started repeating those talking points, but then he pivoted.
He stopped saying that, and now he's much more reserved. He's like, oh, no, I don't hate Jews.
I like the Jews, and his language has changed. Why?
Like, this really isn't hard to figure out, okay?
Cash Patel, FBI, that guy can fuck his life up.
J.D. Vance, vice president, close to Trump.
Elon Musk, close to Trump.
Hegsth, close to Trump.
Grinnell, close to Trump.
All Zionists, right?
This Muslim is now praising a group of Zionists.
And his supporters aren't happy about it, but he doesn't give him.
Why is he doing this? Well, this is a theory, and I'm going to call it a theory, call it a conspiracy theory, if you'd like. But I think that Andrew Tate is trying to throw a Hail Mary pass to get in close with the Trump administration in hopes that our administration will intervene in his Romanian case. And coming to America was part of the plan the whole time. One of his victims,
in Florida, right, who he immediately filed a restraining order against when he landed here,
said, I was rescued from a compound in Romania run by Tate and his brother.
Now I've gone into hiding after they've touched down in my home state of Florida.
Jane Doe, alleged traffic victim.
Now, look, I'm not saying you believe all women.
I don't think the Me Too movement is what made this possible,
because we're overcorrecting.
And we're saying, don't believe any women.
Let's just believe the guy who's on camera
slapping around a 15-year-old girl
that he admits that he pimped out.
We got to find the middle ground.
This chick might be telling the truth.
Now, I don't know if you guys were paying attention to my post
the other day, but the very, very chubby,
not Mexican lady, who has been stalking me,
literally texting me and doxing me, my whole family,
and coming at me so hard,
is a conservative.
Now, I don't know if you guys also remember,
the woke left came at me pretty hard a few years ago,
so I understand the patterns of cancel culture,
like doxing, harassment, and smear campaigns.
This bitch is perfecting it.
And it just so happens.
She is fully doxing that victim who went into hiding.
Right here, same pudgy, not Mexican lady.
So let's recap.
And by the way, I'm not Ian Carroll.
of conspiracy theorists. I'm not going to ask a bunch of questions and make a bunch of foregone
conclusions, right? Where I'm like, whoa, is Ander Tate paying all these people? Is this the CIA?
Is he Mossad? No, I don't know. Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to use critical thinking
and deductive reasoning to paint a possibility that Intertate is funding a bunch of conservatives
to run a PR campaign so that he looks innocent to,
Trump, forcing Trump to align himself with Timu Epstein 2.0, which will fucking destroy the party.
And if I'm wrong about any of these details, okay, here's another fucking just common sense
thing that we could do. We could just wait until see and see if the fucking conviction happens.
Like, I mean, he's got a case in Romania with, uh, seven victims, hundreds of thousands of pages of
documents. He's got a case in the UK, and he's got an investigation that just opened in Florida.
So I'm not saying like, oh, we should, we should just condemn him totally. I do, but that's because
I've seen the actual evidence. You don't have to do that, right? You just have to ask yourself one
question. What if he's guilty? What if you're wrong? Is that going to be something that will hurt us or help us?
If you see a picture of a guy who eventually does get convicted of anally raping a 15-year-old girl,
and Donald Trump's with him like, do you think that the left and the mainstream media are just going to be like,
oh, Trump probably didn't know?
No, they'll fucking bury us.
So be smart.
Wake the fuck up and stop cozying up to potential pedophiles.
you idiots.
All right, there you go.
And that was a very seven or eight minute clip of this guy has been investigating the Tate Brothers for a very long time.
He has put a lot of pieces together.
I think that, and I even go quickly back to Epstein for just a moment, the Epstein files have yet to be released.
And you'll let me tell you why that there's, I've started thinking about this.
And I saw a couple of people post this as well.
there's likely some people in the Epstein files that will destroy the Republican Party, likely.
And so even though you might have, say, three or four, or five or whatever, on that side, the Republican Party side, that is heavily pushing for redaction and for non-release and so on and so forth.
Because even if you have, say, 300 Democrats in the Epstein list.
And then a few.
And you have five Republicans side.
Guess what media is going to talk about?
Yeah.
They're going to talk about that.
Yeah.
That's it.
And so they will do whatever they can to destroy the Republicans on that side, which I
think that they should be destroyed as much as anybody else should.
Oh, obviously.
They should.
But Sherry, what is your take on just his understanding and belief of the Tate brothers?
Do you agree with him on this?
I want to bring up one thing about this, how he turned to a Muslim, you know, turned into a Muslim or whatever.
I don't know.
I think he was a Christian.
He was a Christian, yeah, and then he turned Muslim.
But then do you remember, it was probably six months ago when he was going off on Christians for not sticking up for themselves?
Yeah. And why do you just pray for people and then why don't you stand up for people?
It goes back to him, I think, really wanting to be a Christian.
Why did he even change into a Muslim in the first place?
It was probably the best suited thing for his following, right?
I mean, you, as influencers, and we don't do this.
I think that's why if you look at some of our ratings, keep in mind, by the way, guys, if you like what we do, please go ready to five stars and wherever you listen to us.
But the reason why we have a mid rating on shows is because we talk about what we actually feel.
We do not appease the base just because.
So whether or not, you know, if we conform to a certain narrative, whether it is we're pro-Israel or even pro-Palestinian, for example, right?
And Sherry and I have went back and forth on the Israel and Palestine thing because, you know, I'm a Christian.
Sherry's family is from the Jewish side of things.
And I think that finally Sherry and I are coming to some agreement on some of this stuff and which we're going to have an entire episode on that coming forward because I think it's very important.
And for anybody that's been following us for any amount of time, especially since the war broke out October 7th and all that, you'll understand that we've went back and forth.
And there's been episodes we could not release.
there's been episodes we've recorded and we're like, well, we're not releasing that one.
And there's been episodes that I've gotten mad and walked off.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
But I think that we're finally, I think we're finally understanding kind of the pieces of the puzzle.
And so whereas you can't always, you know, what we do is, yes, at times we will change our minds about things, right?
And then when we do.
And that's okay to change your mind.
Absolutely it is.
And when we do, we're transparent about it.
And we'll say, look, you know what?
I thought this at one time.
Same thing with Tate, by the way.
The first episode, I think they were released about Andrew Tate.
We were the allegations.
We were most against him, I think.
We were mostly against him.
Yeah.
Then a lot of new information came out and there was a lot of stuff that didn't make sense about the remaining courts.
That's when all the girls kind of came forward and said, listen, this is not true.
Yeah.
This is not really happening.
This, I am not being forced to be here.
And it's not all the girls either, by the way.
So they wanted you to believe that it was all the girls saying this, but there are definitely still girls in the back.
you know, kind of in the background right now that are still awaiting whatever trial comes up or whatever supposedly happens.
See, in my mind, that's what I'm thinking is when those recently, we were researching all this.
And to me, it sounded like, no, this is not happening.
They're just using these things to put these guys away because they don't like him because they're more on the woke side than being on a manly side.
I'm talking about the government.
They almost used this against him where it was a business where girls were free to make a choice to do what they wanted to do.
It didn't sound like they were being held against their will that they wanted to be there.
Yeah.
I mean, specifically, let's talk about that for a minute because some of the charges talk about being held against their will,
which obviously is a big thing.
And they have this huge house where a lot of these girls lived.
Yeah, well, lived and worked.
So they had their webcams.
They did sex work on.
webcams. And so I guess a lot of that work was at their compound or house or whatever. And so
some of the first allegations came out that said that they were not allowed to leave. Now a lot of
these girls that were supposedly not allowed to leave came out and said, that's a lie.
I traveled freely. I was not able to not leave. But then maybe there might be other girls
that do have a story still to tell. That are coming forward. Yeah. Now. And especially the minor
children. That's what concerns me is when you have charges against you with a minor,
there is no free will with a minor. They don't, they're not old enough to make that decision on
their own. You know, you have to be 18 to make your decision as an adult, right? Yeah. And
Andrew Tate, I even have a clip of him in just a moment, which will play in a second talking about
whatever age it is of consent. Oh, you know, he was talking about some girl he's having sex with
and he didn't remember exactly where or what's what country he was talking.
about because in Romania is different.
In other countries, age of consent is different than it is in the United States.
So he had to correct himself with what he was saying.
He's like, whatever the age of consent was in this country.
And it's just like, that's crazy.
Yeah, that is.
But we have to understand.
And I want to point this out is that if we are wrong about Tate, and I'm saying, not
we, but like people out there supporting Andrew and Tristan Tate and they're being championed
by the right, that does look very bad on the right.
And not just the right, but Trump and his entire team.
and then, you know, all of these people, so many of the same people, by the way, that are also championing the Tate brothers are the ones that are screaming for the Epstein files.
Right.
And so we're like, we need the Epstein files released.
We want to know what the hell these pedophiles did.
Yeah, but it's okay what Andrew Tate's doing.
Allegedly.
We don't know.
But it isn't it interesting that this whole story came out?
Did you hear the story the same as I did that it sounded like.
Trump invited them into America or back into America?
But Trump's denied that.
I mean, he's denied that at least as of now saying that, you know, I didn't know anything
about this when he was asked about it.
And so that's a very interesting take on it.
I don't know if Trump, Trump likely did not know about it.
From what I'm understanding is it was someone in Trump's team somewhere down the line
that maybe got these guys into Florida, probably have talked with them, discussed stuff
with them.
But it's interesting to me how they would not let Donald Trump himself know if that's what
they're, if that's what they were actually doing.
And it's also interesting how he's flipping back and forth.
And I mean more Andrew than Tristan because Tristan's not as vocal as Andrew.
But it's, it's interesting that he flips back and forth too with the Hamas Israel thing.
And likely what he said is because he knows the administration that's in charge now is pro
Israel.
No, absolutely.
They're Zionists for sure.
So if you're going to go against Hamas, I mean, go against Israel and go for Hamas,
you're not going to do good in this country.
No, especially under this administration, you know, with Cash Patel and Trump and all of
them.
I mean, like it or not, a lot of them are pro-Israel.
They are Zionist.
They are a Zionist administration, probably more so than the Biden-Harris administration, for
sure.
Even though if you look at the APAC funding, there was more APAC money going to Democrats than
than are Republicans.
But I think they had to do that because mostly Republicans were just in line and on board with Israel regardless of money and funding.
So it sounded like APAC potentially had to fund more Democrats to get them in line with whatever their agenda was inside of the United States, which is entirely other subject in itself.
But I still have to go back to the DeSantis thing.
I still don't think that you can legally say you can't come to my state because of things you did in other countries.
Well, okay, so, but here's the thing about Florida.
So for the Tate Brothers, they're under criminal investigation in Florida.
Oh, yeah, because there was a minor or something.
Well, here's the thing.
So the human trafficking in Florida statute 7807.06.
Florida has some of the strictest anti-human trafficking laws in the United States.
Under 787.06, it's a felony to recruit, transport, or harbor individuals for labor
or sexual exploitation through force, fraud, or coercion.
Coercion is the key here.
Even if you convince someone in that case to do it.
Like that lover boy thing.
Yeah, that's human trafficking technically.
You can't engage in sex trafficking of adults or minors.
If any alleged victims were trafficked into Florida forced to create online content or coerced into sex work in the state, this law could be used to prosecute them.
I think also the same would go on the opposite.
So if you took someone from Florida to Romania, same thing.
And then so you have RICO, racketeering influence corruption organization act, which is if prosecutors claim that the Tates operated an organized criminal enterprise, they could be charged under Florida RICO laws.
Now, the law targets criminal networks involved in fraud, human trafficking, and financial crimes.
If evidence shows that they're running an operation that involve coercion or fraud to exploit women financially, Florida could attempt to seize assets and bring charges.
You also have the sexual cyber harassment, a revenge porn, Florida statute 784049.
If the investigation involves allegations that detates coerced or exploited women into create an explicit content and then distribute it without full consent, they could face cyber harassment charges.
This could be relevant if only fans' content or webcam material was uploaded against a victim's will after the fact.
You have money laundering if authorities suspect that Tate's funneled illicit profits from human trafficking or fraud through Florida-based businesses or accounts.
They could be investigated.
So all these things.
And then promoting prostitution, if prosecutors can prove that Tates ran a business where women were coerced into sex work, they can be charged.
Now, how would Florida have jurisdiction?
For Florida law enforcement to investigate the Tates, they must.
to be a direct connection to the criminal activity within the state itself.
So, for example, a victim came forward in Florida and reported trafficking coercion or fraud.
The Tates used Florida-based businesses, banks, or properties to conduct financial transactions
tied to illegal activities, or they were physically in Florida when they committed an offense.
Now, we got to ask the question, was there any victims in Florida?
There was, and there is evidence suggesting that at least one alleged victim from Florida
has come forward with accusations against Andrew and Tristan and Tate.
Now, the individual claims she was lured to Romania under false pretenses and subsequently coerced
and to participate in pornographic activities.
In addition to this, a 23-year-old American woman has filed a civil lawsuit against the
Tates in Florida, alleging attempts to coerce her into prostitution in Romania and defamation
following her testimony against them before Romanian authorities.
Now, these allegations have prompted Florida's Attorney General to initiate a criminal
investigation into the brothers' activities within the state.
He has directed the execution of search warrants and the assurance of subpoenas as part of this inquiry.
So the Florida thing did not necessarily just come out out of nowhere.
They do have some ties to the Tate Brothers in Florida with a victim, alleged victim.
And so that's how it sounds like that they're going to issue subpoenas, warrants, whatever.
And I think they should if there is a victim in Florida that is in hiding in Florida and was lured in.
into Romania and got back to Florida.
And now she said she isn't hiding because they're there.
It definitely needs to be investigated and they need to be investigated.
Yeah, it's like the Misfit Patriot said there in that clip we listened to earlier.
I guess as soon as they got to Florida, the Tate brothers put out a restraining order on this girl for whatever reason.
I guess there was probably like a public PR move or whatever the case is.
But Jason Whitlock, which is a big proponent on the right, he's a big.
talking head on the right.
He says the Andrew Tate is going to be necessary to win the information war.
So very interesting take on this, but let's listen to what Jason Whitlock has a say in this
clip.
Listen.
In this type of war where there's a segment of white men in white America that feel like
them and their way of life is at stake and hanging in the balance, will they say
to themselves. Hey, I got a former
ally ship with Andrew Tate,
a Muslim, a pimp,
an idiot,
but he is
someone who will
tell young men
the next wave of soldiers
that I need in this information
war. He will tell them,
hey, quit apologizing
for being white.
Defend yourself.
Defend Christian culture.
defend the accomplishments of white men.
It's unfortunate.
In my view, this conversation shouldn't be about skin color.
The conversation should be defend Christian culture.
But I look at myself and other evangelical conservatives or people that claim to be conservative.
We don't want to go anywhere near this.
conversation. It's too heavy. The risk are too high. And we just want to remain in our safe
space and make sure that our 4,000 square foot home, the mortgage is caught up and, you know,
my wife is happy and I've taken no risk. Those men and though that mindset is going to continue
to allow America and all these Western civilization culture to get.
get destroyed. He's going to continue to be necessary to win this information war. And so that's
why I'm telling you, I, I hadn't realized these things. I hadn't come to these conclusions
on all the previous things. And so I'm not in any way defending Andrew Tate's previous
behavior. I'm not even, I'm not even defending his current behavior. I'm not calling him a
criminal.
I'm just explaining why there are some people that believe he is necessary and perhaps he
actually is necessary.
So there you go, the dumbest take I've ever heard of this.
Well, it kind of goes back to the Christian view when he was going off on Christians for
not standing up for their religion.
Yeah, but here's the reality of this.
Like, if you're going to even at all try to say the Andrew Tate is sticking up for the
Christian culture, then that's a very important.
very bad thing.
But in a way he was.
No, but listen, he's not.
And let me tell you why, because number one, and here's my whole theory on this,
the fact that you even put Andrew Tate's name in Christian culture or even, I mean,
even for Muslims, in my opinion, like that you would ever even want Andrew Tate saying
that he's a Muslim, even though keep in mind, let's talk about this for a second.
God, I don't want to get into this.
But let me just put it this way.
Muslim culture is definitely very different than Christian culture.
And I'm glad actually Andrew Tate went to the Muslim culture for various reasons.
He fits more in line with their beliefs on some things, especially in terms of women.
Maybe think about Muslim nations.
Yeah, they have to be covered.
They don't respect women.
If they do the least little thing wrong, they are stoned or beaten or murdered or raped or all the above.
just go read, go watch videos.
I mean, it's not like it's a conspiracy theory.
This has been the Muslim culture for a very, very long time.
And so when you even come out and try to say that Andrew Tate or the Tate brothers in any way, shape, or form is trying to defend or connected it all to the Christian culture, then you are completely off base.
And if that is the Christian culture, I don't want anything to do with the Christian culture.
There's a difference in being masculine and alpha and being respectful to a woman.
I think that you have to be respectful to women.
You have to be.
And although we don't always get it right as men, that's just the way it goes.
And women don't always get it right for men either.
I mean, we live in a time to where women have, especially women, women have so many options
to go out there on the internet, show a little boobs, show a little butt.
Show little toes.
Yeah, or whatever.
And then, and then you have all of a sudden 30,000 followers or 50,000 followers.
So this is what guys are trying to.
to compete with and keep up with.
And so, and I can even tell you, I mean, I don't ever hardly get on Instagram, except for
like investigator or podcast page, but it's like all of these platforms continually try to push
like girls that are half-necked or whatever the case is.
That is the promotion of Facebook and especially Instagram.
They try to push that on a continual basis because that is where a lot of these women are
getting the followers to make the money on their only fans accounts.
And so guys are trying to compete with 50,000, 100,000 other guys that want to be with these women.
And as if guys did not already have a hard enough problem to begin with.
Just when social media was around, that's without only fans, without all this other stuff.
But women have always had it easier, in my opinion, to find someone else if they didn't want the person they were with than guys did.
That's just always been the case.
I don't understand that.
Because if a guy announces he's single, how many messages are you going to get on your social?
social media.
I don't know.
I'm not like,
you don't get messages if you're like saying you're single.
Probably.
I mean,
it may be like one or two or something,
but then,
you know,
you're like,
oh, damn.
I'm like,
why these two?
Anyway,
but women,
if they announce their single on social media,
they'll have like 5,000 messages.
They'll have many pictures,
which you won't even go into that.
And they,
they even still do that today,
even when they're married.
And they have a picture with their husband on their social
media accounts.
I've known that.
Trust me,
I know this.
This has happened to me.
And,
but my whole,
whole point to this is do not defend Christian culture. We don't need Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate
defending Christian culture because that is not the culture that should be Christian or tied or anything
to that. As I'm reading through, by the way, everybody, announcement, we're going to start a book
of Enix series, but more specifically, it's just a Bible series. We're going to go back into it because
I've been reading and read 24-7. I'm trying to wrap my brain around everything. This goes back to
this. In the book of Enic, Enix's son, Methuselah, he had a wife named
or he had a girlfriend named Edna, which Edna was, she was a fierce warrior.
She was supposed to give herself up to the Nephlem because at that time, Neflam were saying they basically came
into, actually it was the Watchers at first, but they came into the cities.
And these were the gods that were to fallen angels.
They come into the city and say, hey, we have a quick announcement for everybody in the city.
All the women in the city, you are to come to us by 8 p.m. tonight and we're going to basically
rape you.
And we're going to have kids with you.
and then you're going to die when you have a kid.
Yeah, most of the women died because of, you know,
they would be able to have the kids,
but they would die because of, you know,
Nephlam obviously were much bigger.
It stretched her wounds out,
all this stuff.
But the point is Edna and Methusla,
which was Enoch's son,
Thuselah, met this girl, Edna,
which was supposed to turn herself over to the gods.
And instead, Edna was like,
I really like you.
Like, I, you know,
and she was kind of like a fierce warrior.
She was not a typical girl.
She was one of those, like, wanted to fight, wanted to go up against the, you know, the gods, which they necessarily believe were to gods, or especially in Nephlam.
And so long story short, though, the storyline of Methuselah and Edna, and even Enoch and Edna, which was same name, by the way, Enoch had a same name.
His wife was the same name as Methusla, his son's girlfriend.
But even kind of reading through kind of how they treat each other and how sweet they were to each other, especially even in battle, it was, it was a good story.
And it's like they took up for each other.
They loved each other.
They, you know, back to what you said earlier, 100, 100, 100.
And that's what they did.
It wasn't back in like historical, historical, historical times like the book of
Enoch that you had Methuselah, which was a warrior.
Enoch was not necessarily a warrior.
He was a high priest.
So he was someone that was not much on the warrior side, but his son was.
But you didn't have Methuselah, the son of Enoch, go on and be like,
give me a sandwich or whatever right i mean you just didn't have that this guy loved his girl he
treated her like he loved his girl he protected his girl but his girl also protected him and it shows that
throughout the storyline yes but this concept of because you're alpha male because you have a fallen
because you're rich and famous as andrew tait always wants to remind you of and where he goes over
no that's all he ever says oh because i'm rich and famous and blah blah i don't need women and they got to
they got to serve me if they want to be with me.
I just don't understand how any woman with what Andrew Tate has said in the past would
ever want to associate with him in any way, shape, or form.
I have no idea why.
Like you are degrading yourself by if you knowingly know how they think about women and what
they think about you as a person.
And then you know only go there and be like, hey, I'm here, Andrew.
You know, and they still do this.
I mean, you know, they just had a party in Florida, had women everywhere.
There were women everywhere.
Some of the prettiest girls you'll see on internet, TV, whatever.
They had them everywhere, knowing everything that's out there, knowing the take of Ender Tate and what they think about women.
I don't understand like how this is a thing and how women just don't give a shit.
Because it's the fame and the glory.
So they care more about the fame and the glory than their own self pride or self.
Sometimes women do.
Yeah, of course.
Especially when they're young.
I mean, I was one of those girls once that I was young and I loved it.
You know, if I could be in the spotlight somehow with somebody.
Yeah, I'd be willing to degrade myself a little bit.
And I think that comes with age.
When you get older, you're like, fuck that.
Sorry, excuse my language.
But when you're younger, you're like, oh, yeah, I'm all about it.
Yeah, I'm going to be hanging out with all these people that are really rich and famous.
I want to be right there.
I think that comes with age too.
Yeah, I mean, it does.
I mean, for sure.
And I'm hoping that as women mature and as they get older, they start to realize that like, yeah, I can have an alpha male, but not a complete jerk off.
And unfortunately, Andrew Tate has gotten older over the years.
But he's not necessarily, in my opinion, gotten any wiser.
And I say wiser.
I say it in biblical terms.
Just because you can speak well and talk good things and say there.
right things and all this shit does not mean anything.
I don't know, I don't know if most people realize, but one of the biggest traits for serial
killers has always been their charismatic ability to talk and to speak and manipulate.
I mean, the biggest criminals and the biggest killers in the world are the most charismatic
people you will ever meet.
They are the biggest talkers.
They can manipulate.
They can control you in the way that they talk to you.
and they can make you feel like they are the best thing on the planet at that time.
That is what they do best.
And I know this because I have a cousin like that.
And I'm going to say, I was kind of worried about that when I first met you because you were like that.
We would talk hours and hours and you were chryismatic.
You were very expressive, you know.
Expressive.
Yeah, expressive in your words.
You had a lot to say and you still do.
And I think that's why we do so great on the podcast is because,
you can express your thoughts in so many different ways.
Yeah.
And that really attracted to me to you, but I also was a little bit nervous about that in the
beginning.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, I've always just been one that says it like it is.
I mean, I try to anyway.
And I mean, don't get me wrong.
I mean, you know, back in a day, like, you know, if you got to talk some shit to some
girls, like, you know, but that's the reality.
I know that because that's what a lot of guys do.
There are some guys that are better at that.
There's some guys that are not so good at it.
And the guys that are not as good, don't not have.
the girls and the guys that are really good at it, you usually see them with the prettiest
girls and whatever it is.
But then also on the criminal side of shit, like you don't see non-charismatic dudes
typically that are criminals unless they just break one day and go kill a bunch of people.
I'm saying serial killers and people, especially for women that eventually kill 10, 15, 20
women over the course of years is because of their charismatic nature is because of how good
they are at doing what.
And they're also smart.
And they're good looking most of the times.
And they're smart.
So that's the other thing.
Like, you know, being a serial killer back in a day, you still had to be smart to do it over an extended period of time.
And a large part of the smartness was also why and how you were charismatic, right?
Like, you know, what you said.
That was all part of the smartness.
The same game plan as.
Yeah.
Serial killers are just as smart now.
But I think it's because we have internet.
We have internet sleuths now.
And we have detectives.
And we have much more data and DNA and all that stuff.
That is much harder to not get caught now.
But listen, so let's talk about briefly, and we're going to get to a couple more clips.
Let's talk about the lover boy method.
Now, if you were ever going to charge anyone with a lover boy method, it would be the Tate's.
Because, I mean, think about how good they talk.
Think about how good they speak.
And the interesting thing about that is, is that I don't know how much of the front of what they say on camera is a front as far as how they treat women or at least how they've said they've treated women.
but think about like, do they actually treat women like that as soon as they meet them?
Or are they very charismatic and they kind of whine and dine and say all the right things?
And then they get them there and it's kind of a different story.
That's alleged.
That's alleged.
Well, no.
That's what they said.
They said they get women to fall in love with them.
And then they get them to go to work for them.
Yeah.
Supposedly.
Allegedly.
Well, Andrew Tate said it himself.
Yeah.
True.
That is true.
Here is one thing that the Tate brother said.
They were speaking about how he actually recruited more girls in the adult entertainment industry than almost anyone.
This is a very short clip.
But listen, this is what Tristan Tate was saying.
That's a good question.
Tips on raising daughters so they don't end up 304's prostitutes on the poll, only fans, etc.
Most men I know don't have daughters for these reasons.
I'll chime in very quickly and I'll say one, I have recruited, I think, although you've worked with a lot, more girls into, I guess,
the adult entertainment industry than anyone else.
I really have.
And the one type of girl I couldn't recruit were girls with rich parents.
Oh, do that for money.
I don't need money.
My family's rich.
So when I see these broke boys on Twitter and on Instagram, be like, oh, my daughter,
I'm raising her right.
And she's like nine years old.
But he like works some crappy job.
He's a wagey.
I'm like, she wants, she's going to get that Louis Vuitton purse one way or another.
So you might want to level up your game and buy it for my G.
So there you go.
I mean, that's what Tristan State said, because he's essentially
saying, look, if you want to get women into the industry, well, just buy them some shit.
And they're there.
And they do that.
And I just think that, and I'm not saying this against women at all.
I'm just saying that women, it's funny, women have to up their standards.
And when I say up their standards, I'm not talking about towards rich dudes.
I'm talking about you have to start up in your standards towards good, genuine guys.
And that is the up and of standards.
It's not do not go after money or what they can buy you necessarily because guess what?
You need to go after character.
You need to go after passion, drive, all that shit.
Regardless of whether they are rich at the time you meet them or not, if they have the
qualities of passion and drive and enthusiasm and love and passion or not passion, but
caring and being sentiment on stuff or sentiment.
What the hell is that word?
Not sentiment.
being sincere or you need to go after those type of traits because oftentimes if you find a guy
that has all those traits, the richness or the money or the whatever will come.
You know, I don't know when, but it will come eventually.
If you go after someone that automatically already has money and they're allowed to be a
complete jerk off because they have money and so you're just, you're just submissive because
you're like, well, I don't really have money, but he does.
So now I have to basically submit to whatever he does.
It's kind of like going to work for a major corporation.
Well, I don't actually have the money.
I'm showing up here every single day at my job, nine to five, five days a week because
they are the ones paying me, but I have to be here to get the money.
You're doing the exact same thing if you go look for a guy that has money, and that's
why you're with him.
It's a job.
You might as well just go get a freaking job because likely,
the job has rules and laws that protect you from, you know, shit that guys you're not going to
necessarily be protected from.
And I feel like the Tate brothers, a lot of girls go there and they get into this and they're
like, well, I'm about to have everything I ever want until you realize that money is not
everything you ever wanted and your self-respect is now gone.
And I think that unfortunately in this, in this situation, a lot of girls are going to come
out against the Tate brothers.
they wanted this to begin with.
They knew who the Tate brothers were.
They knew the amount of money and power and influence they had.
They, I'm not saying all of them, but I'm saying a lot of them probably knew this, understood this and went there still.
And then once they realized that holy shit, I feel like a piece of shit or I'm being treated like shit.
Now I'm going to be like, well, I did not want to do this.
I was coerced, right?
I am standing up now for my rights and my freedoms.
So there's the fine line.
Like how much of your own voluntary decision should it be held liable on the Tate's behalf?
If you are willing and volunteering yourself to what you're going to do, should the Tate brothers be put in prison for that?
I don't necessarily think so.
And regardless of whether they're good guys or not, personally me, I don't think they are.
And I, you know, I just don't.
I think they're con men, in my opinion.
I think they say and do whatever the hell they got to do to maintain their fame, maintain their fortune.
And I just, it's just hard for me to believe when you talk to women like the way they have or talk about women like that.
How the hell do you?
And I'm sure we're going to get comments on this podcast where there's going to be guys or girls both.
They're like, oh, Chad's such a beta.
Well, I think it too, it has to do with the self-confidence of the woman.
normally when you go into a relationship or you're going into a friendship whatever and you're going
into it because of money and richness and power, you're going into the relationship in the
wrong reason to begin with.
And it's because usually you don't have self confidence in yourself because if you did,
you would know or believe in yourself that you can establish that power, um, richness on
your own. You don't need a man to do that, right? Yeah. And I think a lot of these women just,
and I'm just trying to put myself in their shoes as well and as a younger woman, what I would do.
I mean, because I was all about that fame and stuff and power and money when I was younger and, you know, young girls look up to that stuff. They like that stuff.
But in a lot of ways, that's why guys drive towards that. Yeah.
actually is because of not just the money.
They're like, well, I'll have more women if I get rich and famous.
Right.
Right.
That's a lot of guys drive for rich and fame.
Is to get the women.
The women.
Even sometimes over the money.
Yeah.
I mean, like a lot of times guys will want the money just so they can get the women.
They also, and even the car, like, oh, I'm going to go buy a Lamborghini.
Do you want to buy a Lamborghini because you just want a Lamborghini so bad?
and it's going to be the most badass car.
Well, there is that, but likely you're buying it because it's going to get more women.
Chad, you don't get a Subaru ever again then.
A Subaru.
By the way, no one, when you say you're not going to ever get a Subaru again, everyone's like, well, that's the most beta shit I've ever heard.
No, whatever it was you had.
Well, yeah, I had an STI, and it was a rally car.
I mean, you know, it was badass.
But when you just say Subaru, though, Sherry's like, you're never going to get a Subaru Forster ever again.
Like, what am I going to do?
The grocery getter vehicle?
No.
No, my brother, I remember my brother dated this girl named Laura back in the day.
And he had this.
He finally bought a car.
It was like this red.
I don't even know what, I don't even know what make this car was.
It was like a 1980 something little tiny station wagon.
It was like the smallest little station wagon I've ever seen.
It was red.
And we used to call it the grocery getter.
But because it looked like it.
It was like the perfect size.
It had like a, you know, like a back area to have the lift up thing.
But anyway, so yeah, I'll never forget when he went and picked up his girlfriend in the grocery getter.
And then, so I tease him about this show and I'm not even going to go into what he said about that.
But anyways, yeah, it was pretty funny.
But yeah, he went and picked up the girl and, you know, they're not together anymore.
It's probably because, you know, he didn't have a Lamborghini.
He had that little piece of shit red station wagon.
Well, I guess it's better than a pinto.
Yeah, well, it was close.
It was kind of one of those cars over close to that.
Now, I wouldn't play another quick clip.
Patrick Bet David had the Andrew Tate on his podcast a few days ago.
And if you guys have not heard that interview, if you want to listen to it, go listen to it.
But this was when Ben Shapiro was actually talking to Patrick Bet David about the Tate's.
And I want you to hear because they kind of had a disagreement on this.
And it's not a very long clip.
But I want you to hear the exchange between Ben Shapiro.
and PBD.
His, you know, lover boy method or some of the things that he was using to get girls involved.
What is the lover boy method?
Let's unpack the lover boy method.
It's what?
It's using persuasive lines to get a girl to fall in love with you.
Is that the lover boy method?
If that's the lover boy method, 90% of men who are 18 years old, 20 years old, who have no clue how to get a girl, would love to learn that language.
Lifestyle-wise, the way he makes money, I think there's a lot of different ways to make.
money, you know, some you agree with, some you don't agree with. In his environment, where he is,
that is a normal, that is not an abnormal way of making money. It's not the traditional way of making
money, but there's many camera, you know, girls that you do that with and you make, there's a lot of
guys that do that in that country. There's a reason why he's in Romania. And then the last thing
I would add to you is the first time I interviewed with them. When the interview was done,
I walked away and when we went back to the hotel, I met him. I met him.
him and I met Tristan, I went back to the hotel and I said, I think, and I think I even asked them on
the first question, I said, I think, I think someone in the Muslim faith is influencing you.
Because the language he's talking about, he's talking about the language that I remember living
in Iran where that was the language, where it's men here, women here, you better or else.
And it's not maybe you better or else. It's my job is to protect you. Your job is to have kids.
and that's it. That's the relationship we have.
And that's where I felt the influence was taking place,
where he went from being the guy that was the fighter,
then a lot of women,
then he's trying to see what he's going to be doing,
then he found a way to make his money,
then he's getting all this fame with the camera,
he's got a way of speaking.
And then he's like, okay,
there's a lot of chaos going on in my life.
I better settle down.
I no longer want to play like I did at 25 or 30.
I got to get my act together.
I want to have this, I want to have that.
And he kind of tried to figure out it would have settled down
by converting to Islam and Muslim.
But I felt like someone was in his ear from that faith.
Yeah.
And so, but what PBD is saying here, he's trying to make it out.
And PBD, I believe, grew up in Iran, Iran.
And he actually called Iran, by the way.
And he's Iranian.
No, he said Iran.
Whatever.
But regardless, I don't think they, I don't think his method is trying to protect the women.
I just, I don't think that's what it is.
And to be honest with you, like based on, and, and look, it could be.
be propaganda. I'm not over there in Iran or I'm not over there in the Middle East and understand
exactly how the system works between men and women. I understand a large part of how, you know,
there is hierarchy, but also understand when women step out of line over there, they pay the ultimate
price in a lot of cases, which is also why I've always said, like, the LGBTQ community that is
so hardcore for, you know, basically Hamas. Hamas.
Hasbalah, all that.
And yet if they go over there, they're going to get murdered or stoned or whatever.
But I don't think at all that Andrew Tate's ideology around the fact that he joined the Muslim culture, the religion, is why he treats women or says the things he does about women by protecting them.
Because I just don't think that's the case.
I think, especially in that culture, they believe that men are over women and they believe that women are much.
lesser than men and I go back to this I just because you're at home taking care of kids
and and you as a as a male are going out and you know hunting and gathering and whatever I mean I'm
talking about historical or working right providing for the family that should not give you the
right to come back home and treat your wife like shit because that no you feel like they are
lesser than you because without that other counterpart of your life which is the woman raising your
kids and protecting the house or not protecting, but taking care of the household, including
you, you know, your life would be much different. And so I just don't think this is, you know,
we always want to talk about equal rights and all this shit. I think if anything, the most equal
rights should be is not equal rights, but yeah, equal rights is men and women. Women should treat
women equally and vice versa. And yes, there are two different roles, though, that are played by men and
women.
But that does not mean that because a man does this and a woman does this, that a man should
be able to reign over a woman like that you are now their slave.
Right.
And that's what it seems like the Tate brothers feel.
Yeah.
And I think that's when they go overboard.
But I think a lot of times, is this what they, I guess it is probably what they truly
think.
Or are they just doing this to be popular and make money?
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Well, and so even on PBD, Fox contributor.
Rob Smith, and he's on Fox all the time, says that the investigate and the two self-confessed
sex traffickers for which there is evidence of them trafficking, according to this post,
Florida resident is a political move.
And this is what he says.
This is all just yet a political move.
Listen to what Rob Smith says here.
It's a political play by Team Desantis here in Florida.
I think to just go out and kind of like have the attorney general say that, you know,
we're going to investigate, et cetera, et cetera.
What this has to do is with the fact that Casey DeSantis is rumored.
to be running for governor, right?
So this is all politics.
And what it speaks to me, and this is the reason that DeSantis got destroyed in the primary,
it's the reason that honestly, a lot of people that were on team DeSantis are so dead
in D.C. and Maga World right now is because they do not read the room.
They're all about politics.
Now, Florida politics is very insular in the way.
And I understand that Byron is running for governor of Florida as well.
So he said what he said.
And he said, look, if, you know, the attorney general in Florida wants to investigate,
this and he finds something I support him and that, right? But this is naked politics and this is also
Team DeSantis trying to run to the left of anything that they see as sort of unseemly or any
cultural figures that are very powerful in Maga World. This is the reason that they are dead in D.C.
I do not think that there's any real particular reason why they wanted to pick this fight
other than to try to look good or more moderate or to the left of what they see as hardcore
or MAGA or even trumpets in some way.
And keeping in mind with all this as well, that Epstein operated in Florida for years.
And they had connections in law enforcement and this and that, they always protected them.
And yet you had the tape brothers come one day.
It was like, what, four days.
Tate brothers over there.
I think they made the mistake of going on PBD, which is, I think, I think it was like the day after that the Attorney General announced a investigation into the tape.
brothers. And obviously Patrick Bed-David being a billionaire, living in Florida, in Ron DeSantis's
territory, Patrick Bet David has always kind of been critical of Desantis. And actually during the,
when DeSantis was run against Trump, they had invited Ron DeSantis on their show and said,
look, we want to bring you on. I think it'll be a good thing if you come on our show.
And they never even got a response from DeSantis. It was like they just ignored their show completely.
And so I think, if anything, PBD has a little bit of a bad taste in their mouth about Ron DeSantis as it is.
And I'm not saying that Ron DeSantis is good or bad.
I think personally that Ron DeSantis is a politician.
He is in every word a politician.
And whereas Laura Lumer, very interesting, her take on this, which I was kind of surprised because Laura Lommer is, she's a Jewish woman, very pro-Israel, very pro-Jew.
and yet she's even kind of defending the Tate brothers against DeSantis.
Well, you know who else is defending them as well?
Ben Shapiro said that they needed to be pardoned, that Trump should pardon them.
And also Alex Jones said that too.
A Tate brothers?
Yes.
Well, I know he said that they needed to pardon.
No, I'm saying.
The Tate brothers?
Yes.
I didn't see that.
Yes, I saw both of them say they need to be pardoned.
I did see that the Tate brothers.
said that Derek Chauvin with the George Floyd should be parted.
I saw that too.
Which should be a whole other podcast episode, which we'll talk about that maybe on another
episode.
But yes, Ben Shapiro and Alex Jones.
So here's a-
Stan for the Tate Brothers.
So on Pierce Morgan uncensored, just I think it was a couple of days ago,
Vinia and Shana, which is on the PBD podcast, thanks.
Ron DeSantis opposed Andrew Tate being in Florida because his wife, Casey, will be
running for governor.
This is just what he has to say, and we'll talk
about this in just a second listen.
Love him or hate
Andrew Tate. You have to at least
admit and respect the fact that this guy
moves the needle. Okay, from when he started,
Pears, talking about masculine,
men trying to be masculine, you know,
talking to girls, being a man,
trying to be the best that you could be. The moment
peers, nobody, everybody was fine with it.
The moment he started talking about the system,
the same system that's been trying
to destroy Donald Trump, the same system
that shot Donald Trump in his freaking
head and tried to kill him. This is just him.
in a different country and in a different way.
Okay, peers, I've hung out with this guy multiple times.
He's not what the media says that he is.
Has he messed up in the past?
1,000 percent.
And if there's a crime, Pears, and you get convicted, go to jail.
Okay, period.
Anybody that's guilty, go to jail.
For him to come here, he has a passport.
He was born in the United States.
For Ron DeSantis to last minute be like, hey, you know what?
Don't come here.
You're not welcome.
What kind of authoritative attitude is that, peers?
And then I tried to think why it appears?
Why would Ron DeSantis all of a sudden say, don't come here?
The guy has a passport.
He's from here.
I think it has deeper implications.
I think it's because his wife, Casey, is going to be running for governor.
And they don't want anybody that's a male that's implicated anything.
But where's the crime?
Pierce, like DeSantis is about to act like, because I know they're looking for them right now
or they're trying to put a crime on them.
If that's not the same weaponization of the justice system that by
Biden was doing to Trump, then what is it?
How are we different than these people?
What did they do, peers?
It's different if you actually committed a crime,
but looking for a crime to get somebody in jail is absolutely ridiculous, Pierce.
That's communism one-on-one.
All right, Batsia, your response to that?
I just can't believe a single person on the right would defend this degenerate,
a person who has bragged about beating on women,
bragged about trafficking them.
He makes the left's case for it.
You know, the left is out there demonizing men.
demonizing masculinity.
And then this guy shows up and says, I'm a real man.
I beat on women.
And the right is like, yeah, right on.
This is a real man.
It's disgusting.
And I'm so proud of the American right
because I've never seen a leftist
have a sister soldier moment
in the last 20 years
and stand up to the extremists on their side.
But I've seen so many people
on the right, conservative,
saying this does not represent us.
A man is a man who protects women.
A man is a man who raises his chance.
children. A man is a man who makes people safe. Like you both did, when you serve this country,
you serve in the military. That's what makes a man. That's what real masculinity is protecting and
serving, not this disgusting degenerate who has bragged about beating up women. So yeah,
I think the justice system should work fine. If there's a crime, they should prosecute. If there's
not a crime, they shouldn't. We can all just say this person is disgusting and keep him away from my
daughters and keep him away from my women.
But I'm so proud that there were so many people on the right who stood up to someone
who's ostensibly on their side and said, this is not what represents us.
There you go.
And I got to say, what side are you on?
I think I'm on her side more on this.
Yeah, I think she's right.
If there's something to prosecute, then you should prosecute.
But you can't just say you can't come into our state with nothing to prosecute against.
Yeah, yeah.
You shouldn't be able to look for a crime because of the man, right?
And that's the whole thing to Andrew Tate said on PBD.
he said you can't find a man and then or sorry see a man then find the crime right you should find
the crime and then find the man yeah find the man that committed it right and I understand that
completely but she's right in terms of what a man really should be yeah a man should be a protector
yeah and and also he should not be a complete asshole to women around him and it's okay to open
your woman's door in the car yeah I just this whole situation is crazy to me I like like a
said, I don't know if Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate are guilty or innocent.
I have no idea.
The accusations against them are pending.
We do not know if they are innocent or guilty.
But in my mind is I have been so flip-flop on these two guys since the beginning.
Two, three years ago, you know, at first I could not stand them, you know, listening to them, how they talked about women and how they portrayed women as lesser than men.
And then when I saw the actual charges and the women saying, no, we weren't there against our will, then you can't charge them for that.
Yeah.
You know, now it's back to this.
It's so flip-floppy.
It's hard to, like, get a adjust of, like, your opinion or what you think should happen.
But definitely, if there was a minor girl.
Sorry, go ahead.
If there was a minor girl in Florida that is saying, you know,
she was prostituted or...
Well, we don't know if she was minor.
We do know that...
No, it said she was a minor.
Well, they say that, but it was 23 years old when I looked up on AI.
We don't know for sure.
But she was 15 when it started.
Maybe.
We don't know.
We don't know that for sure.
But AI did not say that.
So I just want to make sure that we know that.
We don't know if she's a minor.
We know that 23 is when she came out with accusations.
So we don't know how long that actually fully went on.
But, you know, even Andrew Tate's clip here where he's talking to some podcaster,
very, very short clip.
But listen to what he says here.
I'm fucking all these 15 or not 15, sorry, 16 year old women or 18 year old women, whatever, the law is in America.
18?
It's 18, usually.
You're married at 16.
All right.
In Romania, 16, sorry.
So I'm fucking all these 18 year old women.
One of my main chicks is 200,000 Instagram followers.
And I took her Virginia when she was 17.
So he go.
That was Tristan.
And then first, Andrew.
So he says that at the very beginning is, I'm, I'm effing all.
of these 15 year old women.
And then he realizes that shit, I'm in the United States, whatever the law is here.
I mean, you know, how, like how was that, I guess if he's saying this, if he's literally
saying this, what I will say is this, if that is my daughter that I found out that he was doing
this to at 15 years old.
But I don't think he was saying that.
No, he did say that.
He was saying they are alleging that he did.
No, no, no.
Replay that clip.
Okay.
We'll replay it.
Let's see what he says here.
Exactly.
Because he's bragging here, in my opinion.
No, I think he's alleging that's what they're, that he did.
Okay, well, let's listen again.
And I'm fucking all these 15, not 15, sorry, 16 year old women or 18 year old women, whatever, the law is in America.
18?
It's 18 usually.
You've been married at 16.
All right.
In Romania, 16.
Sorry.
So there you go.
It's not.
Well, it's cut off in the beginning.
So you don't know exactly what he was saying.
The context.
That's true.
Yeah.
But it sounded like he was saying, you know, he wanted to correct himself based on
laws of what he was trying to maybe brag about.
We don't know.
But then you also have clips of him.
Here's another clip.
We'll play this too.
I just want to play everything because I want,
I want everybody to get a good take on it without being one side or the other.
Here's Andrew Tate as well.
They didn't teach you in self-defense.
Here's a little move.
When I grab you by your neck and you start annoying me trying to resist and I just
and then I grab you by your neck again.
Then what the fuck you're going to do when your face is collapsed and your fucking
cheekbones broken. You're not going to do shit, but cry. I guarantee I change the way you look at
sex forever. You're going to be fucking crying. I won't cry. I bet you cry, bitch. I bet you can't cry.
You're saying I wouldn't cry. You're challenging me to a fight. You're saying I can't hurt you.
You're at your fucking mind? I don't even have to fuck you. Forget this sex part. That's a distraction.
My dick can stay in my pants. I'll just start beating the shit out of you. How about that?
We walk in the bedroom. I start kicking your ass. No sex. No sex involved.
But you cry then.
I perfected this in Pimp school.
When I got my PhD, we had to practice if a girl comes at you,
ha, you're cheated, you're cheating.
It's bang out the machete, boom in her face, and then grip her up by the neck.
But shut up, bitch.
Her panties get wet.
Machetees on the floor.
Her panties are all.
You go, fucker.
That's how it goes.
Slap, slap, slap, grab, choke, shut up, bitch, sex.
This is the basic moves of a pimp.
So, there you go.
Okay.
So anyways.
That's Andrew Tate.
And that's what he said himself.
That's not AI.
That's not nothing else.
So the right is champion in this guy.
And I'm sorry, guys, I know this is very, you know, it's very foul language and all that stuff.
But I think this is important to talk about.
I think it's very, very, very important to talk about because I think that we are in this realm now to where it's like, okay, if we don't want censorship, which we don't ever, we want people to be able to expose who they really are.
And so what censorship sometimes does is not allow you to see who people potentially really are.
Now, you could say, well, how long ago was this video?
I don't know.
I don't know exactly.
I think it was like four or five, six years ago, maybe.
So then you could say, well, he's changed.
He's a changed man because now he's Muslim.
Anyways, not even going in that.
But I think to Republicans that stand on his side,
Their point is, is he's against the Matrix.
That's number one.
He always preaches against the deep state and all that thing.
And he's got that, you know, point on.
He really does.
Yeah.
As far as, you know, we've not played any of those clips.
We have not played any of those clips where he talks about the deep state and how bad it is and how they're ruining the world.
Yeah.
The Matrix attacks, which you guys can find those everywhere.
He's a good talker.
I mean, you know, I, I, and here's the thing.
I don't think that I have to play the clips of him being a good talker.
I think for anybody that knows Andrew Tate, you can go look at Andrew Tate's videos.
You'll see that he's a very good talker.
He speaks very well.
He gives his opinions on a very based level, especially for people on the right.
He is playing into what the right has felt oppressed about for at least 10 years.
Especially white men, Christians, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And the men is the thing.
The men is the key there.
It's like the men follow the same.
guy like he's a prophet. And if I ever saw a prophet like Andrew Tate, I can tell you that I'm
definitely going the other way because I would believe that that's a false prophet. If I ever
believed in anything about the Bible or religion or spirituality or God or the teachings and workings
of people in biblical context, I would tell you that if there's someone out here like Andrew Tate
that is preaching this to people that people are going to follow, that is a false prophet.
And I think God himself would say that. And I don't, I'm not a religious,
person necessarily.
I'm just telling you that this is, and it's not even, in my opinion, it's not even like a wolf
and sheep's clothing.
This is a wolf and wolf's clothing.
Yeah, he comes out and tells you exactly what he does.
Yeah.
Which is a shock and all factor.
I've always said, you know, there's been a lot of people that are influencers and the reason
why they are so famous is because they do not give a shit and they will say the craziest
shit possible.
Like, for example, Andrew Tate, his new thing for the past six or seven months has been saying the N-word, like all the time, like on X or whatever.
He says it all the time because he's like, well, you're not going to tell me what to say and what I'm allowed to say and what I'm not allowed to say.
But I think it also goes back to the ability to make money.
And if you want to make a lot of money, you have to have that shop factor and you have to become viral in some sense of, you know,
know, or, for sure.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, so we should start just saying some crazy shit, I guess.
Yeah, like you have a booger up your nose or something.
Yeah, right.
Oh, yeah, sure.
That's going to do it.
That's going to do it.
But I also think, you know, and I want to point this out, I think this is the way it is
for people to get famous, is that you have to go hardcore on one particular thing.
You know, for some people out there on the internet, they're anti-Jew right now.
It's like a huge thing.
this anti-Zionist movement, this anti-Jew thing, huge.
And there are also people out there that are pro-Palestinian, that are big, they have huge
takes on this.
Now, what I will say interestingly enough about these people that are out there that
are already, we're already big people, big names.
But as they are trying to make the case for the pro-Palestine side, they're not ever
allowed to get as big as the people that are on the other side, right?
So, for example, the pro-Israel side or the whatever, it just seems like there's always kind
of a give or take, and it seems like on one side of the factor.
I don't know.
Ian Carroll's pretty damn popular.
Yeah, that's true.
Ian's probably the biggest right now.
And he is definitely not a Zionist.
No, absolutely not.
No, Ian is probably one of the biggest names in influencers today, like over anyone, even
almost Joe Rogan.
Yeah, because that whole show went viral because of Ian Carroll.
Yeah, I mean, basically everything Ian does goes viral, like everything.
Even when we had him on our show, what, three or four times.
I think there were probably three or four lives we had them on our show.
I don't know if we ever had them on our podcast audio or not.
Yeah, I think we did on once.
Maybe we did once.
I don't remember.
But yeah, when we used to have him on quite a bit and, you know, he was pretty big thing.
I think he had probably five or 600,000 followers.
Now he's over $1.2 million plus probably just going to keep.
keep growing and growing and growing.
But, yeah, Ian's, Ian's, uh, interesting.
I, is, it's strange because it's like the guy, the, the misfit patriot.
He was like, well, I'm not even girl talking about all this massad connections.
No, conspiracy theories.
But, you know, but there are a large faction of people that want to, you know, they're
trying to find, uh, all the deep dives on Israel, Mossad, the connections of the United
States, which is very important.
I will say that.
I just think that everything is not always about Massad.
Everything's not always about the CIA either.
And even in this case, like, I let me make a prediction.
At some point in time, the Tate brothers in somehow, some way, some possible connection to the CIA or some shit.
And they're going to come out.
Yeah, they're going to say that, hey, well, we were controlled.
We were controlled by the CIA.
We did this for whatever.
There's going to be something.
But my intake to this is, is that if you have a son and you're a woman out there,
because I know there's a lot of women out there that follow and believe in Andrew Tate and whatever he says,
if you're a woman out there with a son that's 12 or 13 years old,
do you want your son to grow up acting like Andrew Tate?
That's the question I will propose to you.
And more specifically, if you are a mother of a daughter out there,
would you want your daughter to be an Andrew Tate's house tomorrow?
because I don't have a daughter.
I have a stepdaughter,
but even her,
like if I found out she was at Andrew Tate's house,
I was like, oh, hell no.
Hell no.
Okay, I would do anything to keep that.
In the same breath,
do you want your son or daughter
to act like these crazies
that don't know what sex they are either?
Absolutely not, no.
But there's a freaking medium to that.
Like, whatever happened to be normal,
you can be an alpha male.
you can be a badass.
You can be a,
you can be someone that protects your family,
your wife,
your son,
your kids.
You can go out there
and if someone comes to your house
and starts screwing around,
you can,
you know,
you can handle your business
in a fight,
a bar,
whatever it is.
You can be that alpha
without also treating
your wife like dog shed.
Exactly.
And I think that's where
Andrew Tate is on one extreme
and there's got to be a middle,
you know,
a middle.
Yeah,
there has to be.
And I think you can go out there
and say a,
lot of the same things that Andrew Tate says as an alpha without putting down women on a regular
basis.
Yes.
You don't have to put down women.
I think that's the wrong messaging.
I think so too.
And I'm thankful that you're my husband and you believe in this way.
Well, I mean, I do.
And it's like what the woman said earlier.
She said, you know, they're literally putting in the laps of the left.
What exactly they want, the MAGA movement, the MAGA guys, the masculine side.
they're they're they're going to use and your tate against the right they're going to use that especially
against the women and they're going to do whatever they can to convince the women of this now like
i said i don't know what the allegations what the trials will unfold and what that will mean
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this movement, this movement that we're still a part of and we're going to be a part of for the rest of our lives because the control system of the globalist is never going to end.
And I go back to biblical teachings where I even said this before is like, well, how depressing is it looking at the future if you believe in the Bible?
It's like, well, it's already written.
Well, if you believe in the Bible, it shouldn't be depressing.
It should be like you should be thankful and want to be with God.
God in heaven.
Yeah.
And to that, yeah, but also to that point is that we need more warriors now.
And I don't think we need warriors in the warrior realm of treating women like shit.
I think we need warriors for God and for good.
And for family.
But also just because you're a warrior and you're respectful to women and you believe in God
and you are a Christian or whatever, you believe in Jesus, doesn't mean you can't be a badass
as a dude.
I mean, look, some of the greatest warriors.
were back in biblical days.
I mean, some of the greatest warriors were in biblical days.
And guess what?
They believed in God.
They believed in the things.
You don't have to be a beta to be a good person or good day.
Well, no, I think a lot of people are a lot of men that are beta are non-religious at all or don't even believe in God.
That's true.
It's possible.
But, I mean, they're definitely probably betas as well in that realm.
I understand a lot of people's takes on if you're Christian, well, you're just supposed to turn the other.
cheek. My mom always just say, if I would get in fights in the school, she'd be like,
why didn't you turn the other cheek, Chad?
Do you not listen Sunday at church where he talked about turning the other cheek?
I was like, I turned his other cheek.
He was what I did.
No, I'm just kidding.
That's so stupid.
But that's going to do it for us.
By the way, we got a lot of good episodes coming out for you guys.
We've got to talk about the Syria conflict that's going on.
We're going to be talking about that very soon because there is allegations and a lot of
viral clips going out about this ISIS Islamist group that is going through Syria and killing
Christians.
And it's not just Christians.
There are also basically anybody that does not agree with their extremist views,
they're killing everyone.
And there's a lot of bad videos out there.
But this is very important because as we have a lot of protection, it seems, for the Jewish
community and for all these other communities, it seems like there's not necessarily anyone
standing up for the Christian community right now, especially when we see these heinous things
happening around the world.
That's not just in Syria.
There are northern African countries where there are Islamists coming through.
And I'm not just blaming this on Islamists, but, you know, it is basically Islamists.
They're coming through and killing Christians and villages.
They are destroying entire villages.
They're beating them.
They are murdering them in very heinous ways.
And we have to talk about that because we have to stand up for Christians because no one really is anymore.
Yeah, but we are standing up for Jews because of what's going on in Hamas and Israel.
and what's going on on college campuses as well.
Okay.
Well, I'm just saying there's enough people standing up for Jews right now.
We get to start standing.
I'm going to start standing up for Christian,
especially with all this stuff is happening.
And so we're going to talk about that very soon.
But guys, until next time, we're going to play this out,
sleepless 4 a.m., loving caliber.
I wanted to play this song in the intro and also the outro
because it kind of makes sense to what we talked about tonight.
This is a guy's take on a girl that he's trying to figure out
and he can't do it because girls are confusing,
which is maybe why you got Andrew Tates in the world.
Until next time, we love you.
Peace out.
Peace out, guys.
Real mean, sweet talking like you mean it,
but you're making it so complicated.
I fucking hate it.
Every time I get too close,
you push me away.
Don't want a stick telling me you don't want any obligations
and how you hate them.
Just because you don't be.
Maybe I'm not.
I think about it way too much.
and every single thought
just making me
bait up
making me
bait up
give me something
straight from your heart
all this insecurity
is tearing me apart
you're making me
sleeping
I keep teasing
I don't want to be
a 4 a.m.
I'm suffocating
just by waiting on
maybe I'm not
I think about it way too much
and every single thought
just making me
sleeping
making me
Give me something straight from your heart
All this insecurity is staring me apart
You're liking me, flanking me sleep
Yes, yeah, don't beat me slowly
Nah
Maybe I'm yours, maybe I'm not
I think about it, wait too much, and every single thought
All this insecurity
