Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Area 51 Declassified Conspiracy Theory | Part 2

Episode Date: January 16, 2019

In part 2 of Area 51 Declassified Conspiracy Theory, we talk about the facts behind why aliens exist, we tell you why Bob Lazar was telling the truth! If you ever thought aliens might exist but dont know, you must listen to this.

Welcome back to Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast. This is Area 51 Declassified Conspiracy Theory Part 2. Since man has looked into the sky, we have seen unexplained sightings. Over the course of history, many Americans have questioned the existence of alien life. Many have wanted answers from our government but to no avail. Even after former government employees came out with the most concrete evidence in history, many officials made it their mission to discredit Bob Lazar. All right, so welcome to the podcast, guys.

Welcome back to Area 51 Declassified Part 2. This is going to be a really, really interesting show, I do believe. Got some really, really crazy stuff to talk about. And honestly, just, man, since all this research, it's just been crazy. I truly feel like where maybe I had questions before, I don't necessarily have as many questions now. But I am your host, Chad Freeman, and I am joined by my co-host. Hi, I'm Sherry Freeman.

And Miss Sherry Freeman is having some allergy issues this evening. So bear with us. We're going to go ahead and apologize for that. So in part one, we kind of talked about Area 51, it's history, kind of what it's all about. I know, you know, the history part of it isn't necessarily the most entertaining part of that part, or well, of this series. but I think today we're really, really going to dive deep into some craziness and with all of our research. One thing we definitely found out is just kind of we've been able to open our minds up, especially about, you know, alien life and UFOs and what really exist.

And when you really, really think about it, especially when you stop for a minute and they're like, you know, is this possible? It's one of those weird things because it's like, then you start questioning, like, like, you know, human life almost. So it's going to be something that, you know, I think we're going to blow you guys away with. Some of you have heard some of this, and we actually got the opportunity to watch the new Bob Lazar movie.

And it was very, very interesting. I think they released it just a couple of weeks ago. And it's a very, very, very interesting read, or not read, but watch, I must say. So let's get on. So Bob Lazar, as we talked about in our first episode, Bob Lazar is a big, big part of this area 51 conspiracy. Bob was someone that was hired by our United States government. And during that time that he was hired, he kind of came across some stuff that, you know,

I don't know that many people believed after it kind of came out. It's not necessarily that they didn't believe what Bob Mazar had to say. I think it was more so that the government and everybody around him was doing their best to discredit what he had to say. And so he was kind of in a constant fight. Actually, when he first came out with what he saw and kind of what he worked on and so on and so forth, you know, Bob actually didn't even go by his real name.

The first news report was I think he was known as Dennis, I believe. That was Dennis, yep. And he didn't want to be known at that time as his real name because he had this information that he was just blown away by. It was something that he witnessed himself. It was something that was entirely crazy that, you know, most of us can't even possibly imagine. I mean, we can think about aliens and we can talk about, you know, oh, there's UFOs up there, but, you know, to the depth and to where he went.

And we're going to give our opinion on why we think he is telling the truth 100% and not just us, but many experts believe that as well. Yeah, and maybe we should just back up for a minute because maybe, you know, maybe people don't even know, like, exactly where he was working. So this, you know, obviously it was at Area 51. This was in Nevada, but he was right outside of Area 51 in S3. S4. S4, excuse me, S4.

So it was right outside of Area 51 where he was working. And at the time, you know, we might want to go into like when the scientists had projects, no one, there was no collaboration with anything. The only thing

that they knew is what their, their part. They didn't know all the other parts coming into this. Yeah, that was something we

definitely touched on in the first episode was anybody that worked at Area 51, when you got hired there, no matter how,

you know, no matter what it was, whether you were hired by the government, whether you were actually working for the government,

or whether you were a contractor like the camo dudes that we talked about in the first part, which is their security. It was all, as Bob Lazar says, and others have said that have came out and said anything

about them working at Area 51, it was all what they call compartmentalized. And to where wherever you were working or whatever you were doing is the only thing you knew about what you know, what you were doing. You didn't know what, you know, Jack down the street was, or down the, not street, down the runway was doing. you didn't know necessarily even what was going on the other side of a hangar. Right. And I remember watching, I think I either watched something or read something,

like his first day on the job, he got there and he said, he felt like they're almost trying to keep them busy, but they gave him a stack of blue folders. He had about 20 minutes to go over these blue folders. And he said, really, I just had enough time to look at the pictures. And this was the first time I saw, these are pictures of pretty much UFOs. Yeah, exactly, which is crazy.

So let's talk about who Bob is. And we've talked about Bob and he worked at Area 51. He's actually formerly known as Robert, that is his real name, Robert Lazar. His actual job description was a propulsion systems expert, was what his expertise was in. It wasn't exactly what his job description of Area 51 was. Bob actually worked at what was known as S4. So S4, for those of you that know that area 51 thing, Area 51 was one thing and S4 was another. S4 was very close to Area 51, but it was just a different it was a different property all in itself. We'll get into why that was, but just to give you

a brief little history on why that was. Supposedly when, allegedly, I guess I should say, when the spacecraft or crafts crashed or however we got our hands on them, the government knew they had really one area to be able to take these craft, but they couldn't take them to Area 51 because Area 51 had many employees that just frankly weren't, didn't have the, you know, they didn't have security clearance to be able to, I mean, I don't think hardly anybody did, and that was a thing. So they created what was now known as S4. And so S4, you know, there's so much to be said about Groom Lake.

And, you know, we talked about Groom Lake in the first part. But, you know, Groom Lake was definitely something. But that's not really, if you're interested in the alien stuff, S4 was where everything was. And so Bob claims, and this is where Bob's notoriety and popularity came in, Bob claims that he was hired to work on recovered alien spacecraft, and that's where his story kind of begins, which is a very interesting thing. I mean, you know, obviously he didn't know that in the beginning. He had no idea what he was being hired for. Bob actually, how his hiring process started was he sent out his resume to different facilities that, or different

companies that specialized in physics or astrophysics, you know, jet propulsion, so on and so forth. He got a call back from a couple of them, and one of them that he interviewed for was, you know, actually turned out to be how he got the job. So the weird thing was Bob said that during the interview process, they were more interested almost, like they knew he knew his stuff. You know, it wasn't that they were necessarily questioning him on how good you are at this or how much you know this. He said it was weird because they did that, but it was just like they were more almost interested in his personal life, what he did, what his actions were, you know, what was his beliefs on certain things, and how did he, you know, what is his family life

and his friends and all this stuff. I mean. And that does play a big part later in the story, I think. Yeah. It does. And so it's, you know, it was, he knew then that there was some stuff that was, you know, kind of weird. But he. So, but actually, so he definitely had the qualifications. They're not going to hire some dummy that doesn't know anything, right? Exactly.

Yeah. And that's what, and later on, we're going to talk about that. And we were actually talking about this pre-show. But yeah, that's something to be said. They're not going to just hire somebody off the street. So keep that in your mind, people, before we, you know. you know, go too far. But Bob was, he was born in Florida, Coral Gables, I think,

and I think he was, it was 1959. He was born, even though he spent most of his life in Las Vegas. And part of that is because of what his, you know, career path he was trying to take. And a lot of that physics and jet propulsion stuff is out in desert area. So spent most of his life in Las Vegas. He has degrees in physics and electronics from MIT. and Caltech, even though if you look up Bob Lazard, there will be conflicting reports on whether or not he had these degrees. Many people say the debunkers say that he didn't have the degrees.

People have researched it, went to MIT, went to Caltech, but have no record to Bob Lazar. So a very interesting thing, and keep that in mind because it gets crazier, I guess you can say. he was very experienced with everything from i mean the one thing bob did before being hired anywhere um and it was something that he you know took from college and what his passion was you know bob was known um as the guy with a jet car um he had a jet car that he had in this neighborhood and it was literally a you know a jet car had a jet engine on the back of it um many people gave him hell for that especially people in the neighborhood, as you can imagine. But, you know, there was a couple of people that kind of took to Bob and kind of knew that, hey, this is a guy that builds all kinds of craziness.

But Bob even went as far as experimenting with fireworks and not just jet cars, but fireworks. He wanted to know how fireworks worked. And, you know, he knew how they worked, but he did a lot of experiments with fireworks, you know, as far as how they explode and what their velocity was, you know. and what their launch capabilities are and all this stuff. Sounds very minute, but it's like somebody that is passionate about, you know, propulsion and, you know, in any way. And all propulsion is is basically the ability to power something

from one place to another. And then so if you start talking about jet propulsion versus whatever, that's what he was highly, highly experienced in. Right. And needless to say, obviously, this man has a pretty high IQ if he's... Oh, yeah. if he's, you know, into this type of career.

Yeah, for sure. Definitely, very, very smart guy. So Bob was, he was hired for what is known as Galileo. It was Project Galileo. So when he went for these interviews and so on, the project that he was hired for was Project Galileo. at a time Bob didn't necessarily 100% know what Galileo was and what he was, you know, what he was even doing. But he was ready.

So S4, which we talked about earlier, it was made separately from Area 51, and it was specifically made separately to host alien spacecraft. And as we talked about, Area 51 employees didn't have the clearance. They had to take it to somewhere else, and that's why they created S4. um s4 consisted of nine hangers and bob was unsure if there were underground features he said when he first got to the to the s4 area um he did see nine hangers he knew that you know he didn't know how old the hangers were necessarily but he said they looked pretty new um and and that was a thing for him it was like you know uh he didn't know when s4 was created or whatever he came kind of after this happened obviously but he said that he knew the hangers had been there

within five years. Right. You know, the other thing he didn't know was because he only got to see certain parts of what he needed to see, but he didn't know if there was underground features of these hangers.

He didn't have any idea. He said it's definitely possible, but he just didn't know. And it's just weird that there were specifically nine hangers, not 10, not 12, but nine. Yeah. I don't know. That is strange.

Well, I mean, it's really not strange, but it is. Well, Bob says, So Bob was actually hired to replace a couple of scientists. Actually, when he got hired, he was told, hey, so, you know, someone just left and you're actually going to be replacing them. Later on, when he got to S-4, he actually found out that he was replacing two scientists that died.

And the reason they died was because they were working on whatever it was, which Bob believes was the spacecraft. and they were trying to figure out something with either the propulsion or, you know, how it works and whatever, did something and it exploded and killed both of them. That's pretty scary. Yeah. So just think about you're replacing two dudes that just died. Yeah. Doing what you're doing.

Yeah, he's like, oh, good luck. It's pretty risky business there. No, and that's the thing. Like, he didn't, you know, at this point, he had not really been briefed yet. You know, these briefings kind of come in very shortly after. You know, one thing he did say is he never interacted with aliens ever himself. And the reason, I know that sounds crazy. Like, that sounds insane.

Like, some of you might be like, oh, no shit. Like, he didn't interact with aliens. But the reality was, is like, kind of what goes to this story and goes further in that, he was briefed shortly after he arrived at S. You know, he knew that some craziness was going down there. He just didn't know quite what yet. They didn't go into full detail about whatever he was supposed to be doing, but they knew that he kind of, I guess they kind of told him,

look, here's the deal. Like, we have something that is we're not exactly sure what it is power-wise, but we want you to kind of be able to do this and do that. Figure it out. Yeah, they had mentioned, like, you know, very, I don't know what the word is here, but they had mentioned sparingly, like, the possibility of aliens, actually, in these briefings. And, you know, he was kind of like, when he first heard it, it was like, you got to be, you know, you got to be shitting me. So, so he gets briefed and he's kind of told, like, here's the deal, this is kind of what you're doing, but maybe not, you know, blah, blah, blah.

He said it was very vague. But he knew he was doing something very important. You know, the notion of even the alien thing, he said, he said he just didn't believe, you know, kind of what they even briefed him on, really originally. The strange thing was, not long after this, he was walking by one of the hangars. And as he was walking by the hangar, and this was shortly after a briefing time,

he had saw what looked to be an alien spacecraft. It was a saucer of some sort, and it was pretty big. I think if I got this on my notes later on, but it's like, I think it was 50 feet across, I believe, or in diameter.

So we saw that. And he said the first thought to himself was, oh, well, you know, this is, this is why everyone's been seeing, you know,

UFO signs. Yeah, things in the sky at night. Yeah, I mean, this is, this is, that was his first thought.

And he said he didn't once even think that, you know, this is an alien spacecraft. It just didn't come to his mind. It was, his first thought was, well this is why everyone's seeing alien spacecraft. And so that was very strange to him.

In his mind, he thought it was some kind of new, you know, military thing they were trying to build and try to replicate some type of, you know, the most stealthy whatever. Right. Because, I mean, that's what Area 51 is all about. Yeah. Building all these aircrafts. Exactly. So then Bob is in a situation not long after this that he is, you know,

he's in this building, you know, whatever part of the building. and he had access to. You know, keep in mind, he had what was called Majestic Clearance, at Area 50, or S4. And it was known both in Area 51 and S4, that Majestic clearance is the top of the top clearance. When you have Majestic, well, not the top of the top, but he couldn't go anywhere,

but he was privy to information that no one else pretty much was except for the higher-ups or whoever. So he was granted majestic clearance. during this time he was in a building he actually seen two autopsy photos and the autopsy photos

that they were reviewing it appeared to be some type of alien it was only a picture from basically the head in the chest he had said that one organ was removed and dissected or kind of cut up and they were kind of looking at

the different chambers or whatever it was of this organ in the photo and he could not tell how tall they were. He said maybe they looked to be four feet, whatever, but he said it was hard to tell because it was a photo. Bob did claim that there was active aliens

at the facility. He said that he, there was only one time that he kind of passed a hangar area, and he glanced and saw something that they were talking to. He didn't know, but he said he can't say, like, for sure that was anything. but you know his with his clearance and his other people that that he did talk to in his little realm

at S4 had told him about you know hey we we've had active aliens here you know actual live whatever wow so this was imagine that yeah this was people that he worked with you know and they even see the the photos yeah of the autopsy and it's just makes me curious too Chad like he saw the photo of the head and part of the body and had some organs. So aliens have organs, I guess. Yeah, I mean, you know, they're a living creature. I mean, if you believe in them,

then yeah, they're a living creature. And they're smart as hell. Oh, obviously. They made it to Earth from how many light years away did you say? Yeah, well, that's... Like 39 light years away? And so yeah, leading up to that, Bob says

that they actually kind of thought they knew where these aliens were from, and which I actually kind of did some research on that today. They think the craft originated from a planet that orbited the Zeta Redicule, I think it's Rediculi star system. And there's a Zeta Rediculi, and if I'm saying that wrong, you know, I apologize, but there's a Zeta Rediculi one and a Zeta Reliculi two. I believe. And so they believed throughout his compartment or department, I guess you can say,

they believe that this is where these crafts originate from. And I looked up today, I was like, well, how far is this? And it was 31 light years away. 31. Yeah, I think it was 31 light years, yeah. But how did they know that, I wonder? Like how do they know it came from that place? No idea.

He didn't know either necessarily. No idea. That's a good question. I mean, that's so much part of the mystery is like, you know, how did they know? But there's things that Bob Lazard doesn't know. Right. And maybe the aliens somehow could communicate, you know, where they came from somehow. Like, you know, obviously I don't think aliens can communicate the same way we do as far as what I've read and researched.

Because, I mean, you know, this is our own. I mean. They do like more telepathic kind of communication, I think. Well, you got to think, like just think about light years, for example. Right. If you could travel one light year, at 36,000 miles per hour, it would take you 18,000 years. Gosh, and you think about... At 36,000 miles per hour.

That's just crazy. So that sounds crazy, right? Yeah. It does. But you know what? Here's the crazier part about it. One of the reasons that Bob knew that this was, you know, Bob actually got the chance, and I might be jumping ahead a little bit, but this is important because we're talking about light years and how far the way this was. And so when you first think about this, like, okay, so this is 31 light years away.

So if you could travel 36,000 miles per hour, you could get one light year at 18,000 years, okay? Which is ridiculous, right? Yeah, it's not even. So that sounds unfathomable. And you're like, okay, so why would they even possibly think that these aliens were from there then? Like, that doesn't even make sense. But, you know, one thing that Bob knew very well. and one reason they really, really went after Bob to kind of get in on this project was because

Bob understood probably more, probably more so than most people, the science and physics of gravity. And he also understood the whole aspect of physics. And so what Bob says and many scientists will confirm is that physics or sorry gravity um gravity controls basically time and and space and that's just hard to think about in a hole it is it controls time and space gravity can bend light um for example and this is true any of y'all can look it up please do because this will blow your mind too we can actually see from Earth stars that are behind the sun, okay? So when we're in direct align with the sun, okay? So say that our part of the planet, the United States, South Carolina,

we are basically in direct line with the sun, right? If it's it, or not direct line, but you know what I'm saying. We can see stars from Earth that are on the other side of the sun. Right. And it's because of the... Solar system. Well, no, just period. And it's simply because the sun has one of the highest gravitational pulls, you know,

it's energy of anything. And so what the sun does is it bends light. That crazy force of gravity can actually bend the light around its gravitational pull. And that's how we're able to see some of those stars, which blows your mind, right? I mean, you know, some of the things we see in the sky, we don't necessarily know exactly like how far they are. Right. If there's stuff in between them, because the gravitational thing.

And that was one thing that Bob really was going to prove. And it was if he had this element, which we'll talk about in a minute, element, he could be able to somehow try to bend light. And there was an actual experiment that he did. And there's a tape of it out there somewhere, they've been, you know, I think they actually kind of found it. It was like a minute and a half long of him using something to try to bend light. And it's with this element that is all about gravity and so on.

So, yeah, I mean, so stuff this 31 light years away. I know we haven't dug too far in it yet, but just stay with us. Bob heard that he basically heard about the aliens and they were alive. during that time. He also had heard through the same people in his department that there were security personnel that entered this area where they were keeping alive aliens. And I think it was five or six security personnel.

And I'm not sure exactly, but Bob said something to do with the gravity or whatever it was. Some of their bullets ignited or not ignited, but actually exploded or whatever the case. Supposedly, allegedly Bob is saying that and there was a couple of people to actually kind of confirm this story but not really

there was some physicists that, you know, still are in the government that says, you know, I'm not going to go there, but, you know, Bob, you should believe him is basically what they said. But they said that during this time

during this time there was aliens that these guards that entered this place wherever they were keeping the aliens or whatever, there was altercation shortly after that. and they all got killed. And that was like five or six security officials.

And who they allegedly get killed by? The aliens. Gosh. The live aliens, literally. I mean, I know this sounds crazy. I know it sounds crazy, but it does. But it is what it is. So an altercation actually ensued,

and the security personnel were killed. He thought it was maybe six of them, you know. So Bob's job description, he was a senior, well, what they actually classified him as was a senior staff physicist. He said it was weird because they called him a senior staff physicist. And usually when you say that, it's like you're over-employees. He said he wasn't really ever over-employees that he knew. No, like that was his title, though, for whatever reason. So, and going back to the alien, it was, it was Bob's third time to be exact when he went to S4 that he saw the spacecraft in the hangar.

It was the third time he was there. And that was what was just, you know, it was insane. It was completely insane. So what happened on the third time he actually saw the alien or saw the photographs? Well, when he saw the spacecraft, it never occurred. to him that the craft was man-made. Like, well, it never occurred to him that the craft wasn't man-made. Right.

Like, it was something that, you know, for some reason, whatever the case was, he just didn't think it. He first knew it was not from this earth when he got in the spacecraft. They actually finally brought him to the craft. I believe maybe this was his fourth time there, whatever it was. They actually took him to the spacecraft. He was able to get in the spacecraft. and the one thing he said that as soon as he went into the spacecraft,

he knew without question this was not from the earth. And how did he know that by question? Well, the materials. First of all, you got to think Bob knew everything technology. And like Bob was probably the one guy that would know anything and everything any government had as far as technological advancements. You know, he knew what the capabilities of our government was. He knew what the capabilities of other governments were.

but he also understood that this spacecraft was unlike anything that he's ever seen as far as systems go. Like earthly systems. Yeah, the actual seating in the spacecraft was very small. He said it was very like tight. So it even had seating on the craft? Yeah, it had seating. It was very, very small like seating, you know, because apparently these dudes were like not very big. And I know it sounds like a movie, but I mean, and we're going to tell you all.

all this because like but the main like the the driving factor is is why we believe this and why many people believe this actually and also many of his colleagues I mean people that are physicists and some of the biggest physicists in the world believe this

but yeah so he got to see the spacecraft and he knew it was not from this earth and he said that you know it was weird because when he when he kind of set in in the spacecraft he was like he said you would think like being a physicist and being somebody that was Bob Lazard that just like

his mind was always blown with like propulsion systems and this and that and just technological advancements and so on he said you would think that I was I would be excited like I you know and just be like oh my god this is amazing but he said it was almost more of an ominous villain when he walked into the craft it was something that he felt like he shouldn't be there and it was like once he kind of was just you know examining everything um it was kind of for him him it was just like you know it was probably like like damn crap yeah like what what have i got myself into right um so how the craft works um according to bob and and this has kind of been you know with what bob has said and and and then comparing what bob has said with some of the top physicists

that also worked at s4 and and other and it has been verified um the craft it produces basically a gravitational wave or a gravity wave. Okay. So it doesn't actually have engines like you would find in any aircraft. It doesn't have, you know, a car engine. It isn't powered off of jet fuel or fuel of any kind, actually. When you're into craft, you're only influenced by, so basically, the craft works like this.

The craft basically creates its own gravitational field. Okay. So the only way that anybody and any physicist has ever been. able to understand how that could be a possibility is what is with the element um and i think it's uh element uh one 15 i believe is that what's gone yeah i think yeah element 115 yeah element 115 is a element is actually i believe it's on the the uh the table now the elemental table um but anyways element 115 can only be found in space um that's the only place that element 115 exist um It is the only element.

There's no such thing as element 115 here, but it has been proven that it exists in space. And it's a weird thing to even, you know, you guys can have to get read. Yeah, you really have to like wrap your mind around that, you know, the whole, that whole element. But it's proven to exist. Element 115 does exist.

But there's what's known as unstable and stable element 115. Unstable is in most cases. So for anybody to be able to stabilize an element 115 and use, it somehow for whatever, that's just a really smart ass, like, whatever it is that did it. Right. So basically the craft, it produces its own gravity. One of the things that Bob was asked is like, well, then how, you know, if it creates us on gravity, like, how does that affect the aliens or whatever inside of this craft, you know?

And the thing is, it doesn't affect them necessarily any way, shape, or form because they're in their own gravitational field. It's the same gravitational field that the Earth has. is the same whatever, but this craft itself produces this on gravitational field. And one of the thing Bob says is gravity, you've got to keep this in mind. Gravity distorts time and space. Yeah, it almost reminds me of time travel in a way. Well, it is in some ways.

Yeah. I mean, it is when you can manipulate gravity. Right. When you can wrap your head around that. And that's what Bob said is many people in the United States are nobody in the United States. or nobody in the United States understands how to manipulate gravity. Right. And that's the thing.

And they do. And so, but, you know, part of the reason they are able to is Element 115. And so we're going to get to that as far as the generations. This craft has three generators. So instead of engines, you know, engines, it has three generators. Yeah, it has three generators. It can fly on one or all three. I think all three is called the Delta.

pattern. So if it's if it's actually using all three, it's on a, I think it's called a delta pattern. When using all three, from what Bob says is, is they use all three in space for space travel. They don't use all three here, but they use it for space, right? Bob said that, you know, when, when this spacecraft is in our atmosphere and so on, they only have to use one generator to do whatever they do. You know, a lot of, alien sightings or UFO sightings or whatever. In the skies, there's one thing that's always pretty constant, especially the ones that are legit and like, you know, whatever.

The people that have truly seen them, there's one thing that's always said, and even pilots. Pilots have come out and said, hey, we saw this light in the sky. It was out there, and then it just freaking disappeared. Like it was gone. Yeah. And that's the one thing.

And it wasn't doing like a normal aircraft. It wasn't just going straight. It can like move and turn or whatever. And yeah, like just crazy. crazy flight patterns. Yeah, and pilots say that all the time. There's been so many pilots, and not just commercial pilots,

military pilots have seen it, and so on and so forth. But the reason for that is the way this thing's powered. It has three generators, and it's all powered on gravity, and it's through a gravitational field that it powers itself. Unlike airplanes,

where airplanes have a propulsion system, and they have something that is basically, you know, you have an engine that has exhausts coming out to back, and that's pushing you forward in motion. Gravitational, what they do is they manipulate gravity with this element 115 that is part of their generators. And when they manipulate it, so instead of, if they want to go forward, they basically have to manipulate the gravity in front of them. Bob actually explained it pretty well. If you put a bowling ball on the bed and then you stand on the bed, like near it, the bowling ball is going to roll down to where you're at.

Right. You know, it's a gravitational pull. this craft works the same way. It manipulates the gravity around it to be able to move. And so if you can do that, you could almost do it instantaneously. So in some ways, you're talking about time travel. It's almost like an instantaneous thing, right? That's just crazy to think about.

I know. I mean, it is insane. It is insane. And we're going to get to like, you know, we're going to get to like all the, you know, the people that have tried to discredit him and you name it. but yeah the craft basically works opposite of airplanes i mean you know it's it's not the same it um where airplane you know like i said it where it propels airplanes propel itself right this thing kind of does the does it backwards if that makes any sense like if they want to um i don't

know i'm not even going to get in and explain that because i'm not a physicist well and it has something to do with the work you know work is push and pull you know yeah but it it is based on gravity but not this extent of gravity, I guess. Yeah. So you're right. I mean, yeah, it's kind of... Well, force is a push or a pole. Yeah.

But this is using... Gravity. Yeah. Instead of force. So you're using gravity instead of a force, right? But gravity is the force. Well, I mean, you know, you're not really... Like, when a plane flies, you're not manipulating gravity.

You know, you're not. You're just pushing. Yeah, you're pushing is, you know. It's a push. Yeah, a push. It's drag. There's lift. There's all that stuff.

And that all has to do with air and, you know, all that. Right. They don't give a crap about air, man. They don't need air. I mean, they got gravity. They don't need air where they're going. They don't need anything. They don't need anything.

I mean, the question I would have is, you know, obviously life, if you think about it from Earth's perspective, life has to have what? Food and air, oxygen. Right. And I wonder if aliens need that. I don't know. That's something that's crazy enough as it is. You know, we got in these, you know, obviously I think we've been testing these UFOs at,

yeah, airy 51. 100%. Had they tested it just in our own atmosphere? Yes. Or have they gone into space with them? I'm glad you asked that. Okay. it wasn't anything crazy, but he had never seen this thing in motion.

You know, the thing that he'd been in there trying to figure out and, you know, whatever, he'd never seen it in motion until, you know, I guess they had test pilots that came in, that kind of whatever. I think they even built simulators to these flying softs. Oh, I'm sure they did. Yeah, they did. I read about that. They built these simulators for these test pilots to practice in, you know, because they

weren't used to ever flying anything like this. So they practiced in the simulators first and then. Yeah, I mean, how would you even simulate that? I know. Like, just do something that's like a hundred million miles an hour. Oh, just try to control it. Like, don't hit anything, you know, whatever. Obviously, they had to have known enough to where they could, you know,

because Bob said during the test flight, he saw this thing lift off. And he said it was the eeriest, weirdest thing because this thing had no sound. I mean, it was like silent. no engines yeah because it was all gravity right and so it had no sound but he said it was weird and say gravity on

I don't know but he said that it was so weird because you know when you saw this thing lift off he said you know you were expecting when they were in there and they were about to start this thing almost like a space shuttle

like sound yeah or something I mean even just a you know freaking lawnmower sound but no you heard nothing he said the weird thing was though he said he had a weird feeling in his ears and kind of all of them did

and it was probably because of that gravitational pull or I wonder if that's the buzzing that some of people, you know, some people say they've experienced. You know what's weird. I know that sounds crazy.

It could be just my mind, but whenever I'm like near a microwave, because that has to do radiation, which this thing actually produces radiation, he said. But when you're near a microwave, you feel kind of weird. Like, I don't know.

It's like, I don't know if it's just your head telling you like I shouldn't be near this microwave because it's going to get me cancer. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Which is strange because, like, they cure cancer with radiation. What the hell is that even all about?

Yeah. Well, they're killing parts of your body, but. Yeah. So he witnessed one test flight, and he said when it lifted off without noise, keep in mind, it went up and down and left and right. But it was a effortless movement. It was something that was like there, you know, left and right. It wasn't like, oh, I have to like try. It was just crazy.

He said it was a low, it was like a low event. um test flight it they didn't do anything crazy but they they they were testing the up and down left and right and he said it was just insanely like right and obviously there was no runway or they had to you know go really fast and take off it was just like straight up and down go yeah yeah done done deal and bob said it was 52 feet in diameter about so you know it's not huge what would that compare to i'm just curious i can't think 52 feet in diameter what would that be well i mean it's than the, it's bigger than our living room. I mean, by far.

It's, um, it's pretty big just to go straight up and down. You know, it's 52 feet's probably the size of his house. I mean, lengthwise on that side. Yeah. I wonder how much this craft weighs.

He didn't know. Um, that was the one thing that he, he wasn't sure of. But speaking in the craft, he, he, uh,

he thought it was metal, um, of some kind. Right. Like, not the shot. shining type metal, but the dullest. Well, he said it was like a polished aluminum almost,

or not really a polish, but like a, he don't know. But he said the one thing he did realize or recognized was this craft was it didn't have welds in it. You know, like if we created something typically, it would have welds or here, especially if it was all, like an all metal feature. He said it was just one whole piece. No seams. Yeah, no nothing. It was just one whole piece of, you know, a perfectly crafted whatever, you know, spacecraft.

craft. It almost had to be melted like that or formed, I guess. And keep in mind, guys, like this isn't even, like, we're not even talking about this happened in, you know, 1950s or something. This was in the late 1980s. Yeah, 1989. Yeah, that this happened. Yeah.

So that's the, you know, I don't know, for some reason my mind when I think about all this, I'm like, you know, that had to be a long time ago. And maybe the reason I think that is because in 1947 is when, you know, they thought the first craft. crashed, which who knows? I mean, that, that, you know, from 1947 to 1980s. Right. You know, that could have been the time that they were,

they were able to figure out enough to where they could fly this thing somehow, you know. But, but Bob said that, that he, uh, he had heard there were aliens in area, well, S4 during the 80s. So, wow. And he had thought more spacecraft had crashed is what he was pretty positive of. Yeah. I mean, like, wasn't there an exact number of? number of spacecrafts? Yeah, he had, I think there was nine.

Yeah, there was nine. Yeah, actually, yeah, you're right. Yeah, and doesn't that go back to the nine hangers? I mean, isn't that? Didn't he say nine? Yeah, he said nine. Yeah, there were nine spacecrafts and nine hangers. Yeah, that's true.

That makes sense. I mean, doesn't it? Yep. It's weird because you brought it up because I wasn't even thinking that. But yeah, I think Bob did say there were nine, eight or nine craft. Yeah, there were nine. And, yeah, there are nine hangers. That makes sense.

So that makes, I mean, and that's why I was saying before, why did they make nine? Well, because there's nine flying sensors. Well, and obviously there's people out there too that, you know, had to have been working on those other crafts. You know, there are other people besides Bob Lazar. And actually, I actually think that, that, I actually think the one guy that they interviewed, that was the one of the top physicists in the world, and still is, actually, I believe this day. which I'm trying to find yeah

Dr. Kringle Dr. Kringle was a physicist and they actually interviewed him Robert Krengell they interviewed him on Bob Lazar and he definitely confirmed that Bob Lazar worked at Los Alamos which is you know

And the reason why you say that is because there's no confirmation of anything because well there is Well, Bob Lazard has pretty much been like wiped clean. Discredited. He's tried to be discredited. Well, yeah. For college.

For where he's worked. Even the same, what is it, Alamos or whatever? Was Alamos? It doesn't even say he worked there and he worked there. Didn't say he went to college. How would he know about all these propulsion? Yeah, propulsion physics if he didn't go to college. So, I mean, obviously he did go to college.

He did work at these places. So it's a good thing. at least this physicist credited, yeah. Yeah, that he, you know, actually worked there. Yeah, he did. And that's the weird thing. It was like, okay, so they interviewed, you know, they interviewed him on Bob Lazar.

And one of the things they ask him, hold on, one of the things they ask him was, you know, how, you know, they asked him what his job was. And did they ever see him? And, you know, and yes. And Kringle says, said that yes he did he did see Bob Lazar at S4 because Kringle himself worked at S4 and that's a known fact he was in the same area as him I guess but they're in different projects yes yeah they were in different projects

and he said that you know he knew he he saw Bobin passing the S4 and it was one of those things that you know he didn't really question um Krengele said I'll tell you right here. Crankel has done contracts at Los Alamos pretty much all through the 80s. He still does contracts with Los Alamos, and he said not as many as he used to. But all through the 80s,

he was doing design projects or like what is called ancillary engineering. Their engineers had been beaten a problem, and sometimes they got too close to the problem when they can't see the forest through trees type thing. So he was one of the guys,

that kind of came in and tried to solve the problem or whatever that so this guy was like you know one of the top guys and he still works there he still does stuff for the government so he's basically a problem solver things that go wrong yeah fix those things so yeah he actually asked bob one day um he's you know and this is uh crangle um dr crangle he asked bob he said bob he said tell me man why did you why did you commit professional suicide is basically what he asked Bob. Meaning that Bob came out and said, you know, kind of told it all. Bob Lazar is the Richard Snowden of then. And Richard Snowden's really getting his ass reamed. And I think he was even accused of. He's a whistleblower. Yeah, yeah, they tried to, they threatened to charge him with espionage.

Yeah. And luckily that never happened, but. So he asked him why he did that. And what was Bob's answer? Well, Bob just said he committed. professional suicide. And Krengele said by doing the video that he did, which was the interview, where he was talking about the craft that he had exposure to, he went into quite a little tutorial on how a matter

and antimatter engine might work, which is how they get enough energy to power and energy in the craft to do what they wanted to do. And he broke the code. He broke from the fold. He talked about it. That's it. That's a death sentence is what Krengele said. and keep in mind,

Kringle is, you know, no one has ever questioned whether Krenge works at S4 or Air 51. They all know he's one of the top physicists in the world. So they ask him, why is it a death sentence? And he said,

Crangle said, well, with the security community, it's just a mentality that's up there. Don't talk about what you do. You're committing professional suicide. So, Corbel,

which is the interviewer, asking him, he said, verbal conversation with Bob at any point. Crengele said yes. And he said we, we chatted. He said it was after, obviously, he was gone from Los Alamos through conversations with peers and colleagues. I knew about Bob being over in the East Mountains of Albuquerque and his company, United Nuclear. He said, I asked him, why did he commit professional suicide? He said it was information that he really thought the world should know. But it wasn't just that. Once he kind of came out and said

anything, that was, I think, his initial thing. But then, Bob said when he Okay, so you remember when I said that when he first came out, he didn't say his name. Right. He didn't come out with his name. He was known as Dennis. Well, he started thinking he was like, oh shit. Like there's no way, there's no way in hell

that they're not going to know it's me. Right. So the reason he decided to do an actual documentary and interview on tape because they actually wanted to do an audio. They wanted to do like an audio recording and then report it to the papers and all this shit. And this isn't back in the 19, late 19. They wanted to do that and Bob Lazaro requested a video interview and he said the number one reason he requested a video interview was for insurance on his life on his life yeah because i think i was reading

because if he just shows up dead yeah exactly he's gone so this kind of gave insurance on his life yep and i think i was reading somewhere where he was saying that he was interrogated so bad that he didn't know if he was going to live or die that day like he really thought they're going to just shoot him dead that day yeah that was the day. Yeah, so speaking of that, so you remember I told you, he only had, he had only witnessed one test flight. Right. Of the, like, in person. But the thing Bob did know was he knew the test flight schedule. Yeah. He knew the test flight schedule. So obviously, he still had friends and stuff and family or whatever. Yeah, but this is after he left, I think, what you're going at. Nope. No, no, no,

he was still there. Are you sure? Yep, during this time, he was still there. When he brought his wife and I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I'm pretty positive. Bob was still there. So, but this is after they like almost shot him dead and he was like fearful for his life. And then no, no, no, this was before. This is before. Yeah.

Okay, before. This is before that. Which we, yeah. Right. No, but yeah, he said that he knew the test flight schedule of when they were going to do this. And actually, he even knew why they, why they did. They did most of their test flights at night, obviously. And they also did the test flights on Wednesday.

And the reason they did them on Wednesday was because their data or statistical people had this stuff like down to a science, like a math. They knew that the lowest population around that area was usually Wednesday evening. They knew that that was when the least amount of people were there. And most of the people around there at that time were at the St. what is it?

The church, the church they go to, the St. Lutheran, whatever. I don't know. Yeah, they're all Latter-day Saints or whatever around that area. And they were all like avid church members. And that's why they did it on Wednesdays because they all went to church on Wednesdays. So they would be like less likely to see these sightings. I got you. That makes sense.

I didn't know that. But yeah. So yeah. So he knew the schedule. Right. And yeah. And he decided for some dumb reason in my opinion, that's dumb. He decided to take a couple of his friends out, you know,

It was his wife. Yeah, his wife and his friends. Not to the base, though. Right. He took him, you know, like where tourists could go. Right. To, like, some hilltop or whatever, which is kind of funny because they kind of closed off certain hilltops, you know, whatever. Yeah, they expanded the area.

Yeah. The perimeter, which we talked about in part one. Right. But he decided to bring his friends and his wife, I believe his wife. He decided to bring them to show them a test flight one night, like when they were going to do it. And they did it. and they were sitting there and hanging out and of course the test flight happened

the spacecraft came above the mountains and Bob one of the things he said during this test flight though he said it went higher and it did different things than what he saw in person you know like when he was there but he saw this you know his family verifies it his friends whatever interview of his friend yeah

saying how the craft just went crazy like different ways that we've never seen before on earth yeah and um and he paid for that. I mean, he paid for that because they drug his ass in there very quickly. And that was when they actually held a gun to him, he said. Yeah, that's, that. They held a gun to him and they threatened him and his wife's life and said, if you ever, like, you know.

I mean, it wasn't even the fact that it was the fact that Bob knew what the test schedule was. And he brought somebody outside of his thing to even see that. Right. You know, it wasn't like saying, hey, I'm going to bring you in to area of it or to S-4. but it was just a simple fact that he even acknowledged the fact that they had tests on Wednesdays or whatever. And I'm sure that in their mind they were thinking, well, he's probably telling these people, hey, let's go check this out. Right.

So they threatened his life. They put a gun. They were screaming at him. You know, it was a big deal. And I'm sorry, but I'm making a connection because when you said earlier, like, you know, when he was first interviewing for the job and they wanted to know more about his personal life than his professional life. Yep. Yeah, I mean.

At the time, I think that, I don't. don't know if he was having problems with his wife or something was going on. And at that time, they said, you know, we don't want you on this project anymore. This is at that same time. Did you know that? Yeah. Yeah. It was because they were worried about him spilling the beans because if your personal life is not good, then, you know, you're not going to be able to keep this conspiracy, you know, this quietness going, I guess. Oh yeah, for sure. And not say anything. They got worried that he was going to be, you know, he was going to be a whistleblower. Right. in some ways.

And that's what he turned out to be. But it's just funny that they interviewed him and asked them more the, you know, the personal questions than professional questions, I guess. And that's kind of what happened. And that's why he was, that's why he was, you know, weirded out by. He was like, why did they, like, why they want to know this stuff? But yeah, so briefly back to interview, Kringle said that, you know, they, he knew that Bob was in the East Mountains at Albuquerque.

he asked him why he committed professional suicide. And Crankel said, look at Snowden. He said, had Snowden not done what he did, he would be the great kid that's doing the intelligence gathering, right? Right. And Snowden would still be like the dude that's doing all this crazy stuff. But he broke from the fold, you know. And Richard Snowden's life is at danger.

Oh, it is. When he gets caught, he's probably going to be put to death. And I mean, and just think about this. And, you know, maybe we should be saying those on the podcast, what I'm just saying. And like, we don't want FBI raid in our house, which we're going to go into that. So FBI, back off. Yeah, back off, ladies.

But no, seriously, like, think about it, though. I mean, look, you know, I'm as American as they come. I love America. I do too. I believe our country is the greatest country on the face of the planet, giving what we are afforded as our luxuries, okay? Right. That's what I'll say. But I don't necessarily believe necessarily that our government is any, in, and,

some ways any better than some other ones, you know? I mean, and, and, and the part, the reason I say that is because, like, look at Richard Snowden, you know, he was a whistleblower. He came out and said, you know, look, by the way, government is listening to everything you're doing. Everything you're, yeah. Which, you know, and before that, everyone was always like, oh, well, you know, be careful of what you said. You know, it's like a joke. It's a joke, yeah. But now he came out and said, it's no joke. This is really happening. He came out and said, no, it's definitely true. For sure, blah, blah, blah. And I think the thing with Snowden was, is that I think where he messed up,

and I believe this is what I've heard on a couple things, was Snowden. He, you know, the thing about him was I think he had some stuff, some documents possibly, that could prove this, which, well, he did actually. He put it on WikiLeaks, and he proved it through government classified documents, if I'm not mistaken. Right. What got Bob Lazar out of this was he didn't show government documents showing exactly what this is. The FBI did raid his home and they were looking for a specific element.

Yeah. And that was that. Well, they told him and yeah, they did. Let's, because I want to say that was the new documentary. That's what we talked about, the new documentary. Yes, let's talk about the FBI raid in just a second. And the reason I say this is because I want to get to, Kringle said, look at Snowden. Bob is, he said Bob is essentially the same thing as Snowden.

He broke from the fold, but at least he managed to keep going. I mean, where do you go from engineering physics at Los Alamos if you can't stay with your discipline? What do you do? Open a TV and ready repair shop or deliver pizzas? And the interviewer said, you open United Nuclear. And Krenel said, that's right, which is what Bob opened, even. even though it's like, I don't think it's that huge of a thing. But so,

so the interviewer said, and this is important, the interviewer asked this guy, Crankel, Dr. Crankel, said, you know, then again too, you're in the capacities that you've had to, you in the capacities that you've had to, or decided to work as a subcontractor for at least these agencies and businesses in the area, you two have been shown things that don't know,

necessarily line up with chronology chronology of our own development of technologies is that fair to say and crangle said that is fair to say but and corbel said we're not going to say anymore about that crangle said right exactly i'm not going to break from the fold laughter i'm not ready to commit at this point professional suicide and the interviewer said but there's there something that you have experienced that leads you to lean towards the idea that lazar and then the crangle said is credible. Corbell said it's credible. He said yes. So he basically said, is there anything that you've seen that you think that Bob Lazar is telling the truth? And that's pretty like, you know, he said yes. And this is the guy that still works there. Yes. And he said yes. He's basically,

he's basically not going to say anything about yes or no, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, that way he knows what he doesn't know. But he says he's credible. And guys, and guys, for this episode, I will definitely put this transcript up on our website. Our website is Do Without Fear.com, and I will put that on the show page. So if you get a podcast and look at this show, which is Area 51D classified, where actually you've got to go to Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast.

But go there, look at our shows, and you'll find the download for this. I will actually put this transcript on there so you can read it yourself. Check it out. It's definitely worth the read. If anything, it verifies everything we're talking about today.

I don't think that verifies as much. I mean, even though he is definitely, you know, a credible source. But there are many others. I mean, it's not just that. So anyways, so the, so back to the, you know, the spacecraft. It produces gravity. You know, the craft had three generators. It can fly on one or all three.

And as we talked about, it works opposite of airplanes. so Bob thought the craft was metal is the best thing he could think of so then Bob was involved on what was called Project Sidekick and he knew that he knew about it at Area 51 as well and Project Sidekick was the project to determine if the craft had weapons or not that was what Project Sidekick was that was something they worked on to determine you know does this Does this craft have weapons? Is it capable of firing weapons? What technology is on this craft as far as weapons go?

So on and so forth. So that is what the project Sidekick was. Later on, Project Looking Glass came around, and that was studying the time distortion and how that involved the craft. So there was a few different projects that all had names. Sidekick was to see what weapons had. Looking Glass was to see how it used.

use time distortion because you know like this said and you remember we were talking about they thought it was from that that you know that star system that's where they think they're where they're at right so obviously when i was like well they're 31 million light years away or 31 000 like whatever it is um yeah when they're when they're that far away you know how in the hell are they going to make it to earth and that all has to do with time distortion the gravity yeah yeah um so element 115 let's let's talk a little bit about this sorry sorry go ahead oh I'm sorry element 115 is a space element and this spacecraft had part of the generator made with element 115 and again that was the element that's not found anywhere on earth no right nowhere

nope and so the generator itself was partly made of element 115 um of that the craft that they were testing yes that craft yeah yeah so like I said instead of of the engines or whatever, it had generators, is what they called them. And that was what was partly made of that element 115. And remember how there are, you can have element 115, but there's unstable and stable element 115. Right, right. And you'd have to, like, look that up and see what the difference is.

I'm not going to, like, I'm not even going to try to explain that. But, you know, something about, you know, being able to manipulate gravity by using element 115 would be called stabilization versus not knowing what to do with it is not stable. Unstable. Yeah, or unstable, yeah. Bob was told that he had, well, actually, Bob didn't, he didn't tell anybody, but Bob said that he had 500 pounds of element, or sorry, no, my bad, let me rephrase that. Bob said there was 500 pounds of element 115 at S4 that they had.

500 pounds. 500 pounds of element 115. How do you get 500 pounds of element 115? They ask him that. They don't know. I don't know. That's weird. And Bob actually claims that he kept some.

Like in a container? I don't know. I have no idea. He said he took some with him. He kept some. So he basically snuck it out of the place? Pretty much, yeah. And you know, the thing about it is,

is like you can't discredit that because obviously Bob would have been working with element 115 if he's trying to figure out the propulsion system and how this works right so he would probably be the most readily accessible or it would be the most accessible to Bob would be the element 115 well how they got 500 pounds of it Bob wasn't sure he just you know he he he didn't know if it was from the spacecraft right and that's what I'm thinking it had to come from well keep in mind You remember we said there was nine spacecraft, but he said that, you know, that he said that there was only like two that were functional. And the rest of them, the rest of them. Yeah.

Oh, well, I didn't say that. So two were functional out of the nine. Two at the most he thought was functional or three. And then he said the rest of them they were taken apart, disassembling. To try to do the reverse. Yeah, they were going to try to figure out whatever. And I'm assuming that's where the 500 pounds of Element 115 came from, was from the rest of those spacecraft. It's just, that's hard to even imagine.

Like, is it a gas? It's not a gas, actually. It's pounds. Well, the thing about the gas is, so let me tell you this. So if any of you are always wondering, like, why aliens, or not aliens, why any, okay, so most of the people that actually see, you know, extraterrestrial vehicles or spacecraft in the sky, there's always one thing that they say that they see in us a constant light. It's not necessarily a blinking. And they say it's an amber light. Well, sometimes.

I don't know. It can be bright or whatever. Yeah. And it can be. It can be Amber. But they, they, what, the one thing they do see is it is some kind of constant light. And Bob simply said that, um, he simply said that the main reason that it glows is because of the gravity. He said anywhere that you have high energy or a high gravity system or whatever it is.

Um, and you put that in the sky with that much energy around it. that gravitational field that is that is moving with the gas of our atmosphere our you know our air around it that's what makes it the craft you know glow so and that's that's what causes a glow and it's it's not they don't really have like light they don't have a light like airplanes it's just the it's the gravitational system around it versus the gas around that makes complete sense of what people see the sky. Exactly. Because they see like a huge, you know, but I don't know.

I mean, mostly they see like a glowing light. Yeah. That looks like it's not a blinking light or not. Yeah. Right. So yeah, I mean, but the element 115 is the key here, is the key to everything. It's that one element of is how Bob believes that they were able to, you know, manipulate gravity. So element 115 is actually like a material.

element 115 yes I believe yeah it is a material and so if you look I'm going to look up just just see what the oh god I don't even know what the hell that is

it's a synthetic chemical element it's a synthetic chemical element with symbol MC and atomic number 115 so it is an actual thing but it's not from Earth okay

Okay, so I wonder if we can make this on Earth? No, it's not possible. It was synthesized in 2003 by a joint team of Russian and American scientists at the Joint Institute of Nuclear Research in Dunbar, Russia. It was recognized as one of the four elements by the joint working party. It's extremely radioactive element. It's the most stable-known isotope. It has a half life of only eight seconds.

In the periodic table, it is a P block, whatever that means. But anyways, it's from space, element 115, if you look it up. And I don't know what, I mean, Moscow, it says something else in Wikipedia, which is strange. So obviously, Russia knows about this element 115 too, because they're trying to replicate it, right? Yeah, it's a super heavy. It's one of a number of a number of super heavy elements. and it has an atomic number greater than 104 that are a short-lived that can be detected

can't be detected in nature creation of element 115 during a particle collision of American and calcium atoms so it's just some strange like weirdness but Bob says that it's from space it's not from you know earth

and most people will agree with that so anyway so Bob found out they had 500 pounds Bob was able to keep some So. And I'm guessing that's why his house got raided. Yeah. So we'll get to this.

We watched the new documentary on Bob Lazar. I think it's called Bob Lazar, UFOs and aliens. Area 51 and Flying Saucers. Yeah, that's what it was. Area 51 and Flying Saucers. And actually, during the taping of this, this is just released not long ago. So this was filmed, you know, over the past, I guess, I would say year or two.

It was strange because they were actually in this, I don't know, I think they were going to talk about Element 115. He had went to some special place with Bob, and they were sitting there talking during this interview, and he looks at Bob, the guy that's doing the documentary, and he says, Bob, you know, make sure that we have all our phones off and all this. And he said because he's like, even though you don't think you're being watched still,

but let's just take our phones away from us. We're going to talk about this. He said, this will only be on this video and this audio record, and I'll make sure I encrypt it until we figure out what we're going to do with it, whether we put it on a documentary or not. Well, it just so happens the very next day that they had this conversation

about this element 115, their house was rated by FBI agents by all of them. I mean, they looked, and supposedly the FBI was there looking for some, they said they were looking for some client that Bob has had in the past 10 years. that just might have got a hold of some dangerous chemical, you know, or whatever.

But what they were really looking for was element 115. Right. 100%. So after all this stuff, you know, it was strange because so Bob came out with all this stuff. I mean, he told everything. And that's when Bob started getting threats on his life. There was a white car that once pulled up and shot at his car. it actually hit his right tire and blew his tire out.

He saw the person that did it. Bob said that he was threatened both him and his wife by someone he worked with. And it was, you know, I would assume one of his, you know, one of his superiors. And they threatened both him and his wife's life and said, you know, we're going to kill both of you. If, you know, you ever say anything about this?

It's not just his career, but now they're threatening his life. Yeah. And the thing is, Bob never believed in aliens. before any of this. He said, if you came to me and said, you know, hey, there's alien spacecraft out there, he would probably laugh. And that was one of the things he said.

Everybody that's been close to Bob, you know, in this new documentary, his wife's there, the news reporter that first broke the story. There's many of his friends. There's many of his colleagues that all say Bob is the most truthful person that you will ever meet in your life. Bob himself even said, he's like, if I wanted to make up a lie,

I can make it a lot better than this. Right. I mean, he said it sounds crazy as hell. I would make it at least more believable, but he's like, this is what it was. This is what it is. Yeah. So guys, just to kind of say this as far as the proof of this and what we think and why we think he's telling the truth. Bob has been, he has undergone four or five lie detectors.

Four, I know for sure, but I think it was five most recently. And each of these times that each of these lie detectors were done. These are not done by people he hired or any of that crap. It was done by, you know, there was one Las Vegas detective or he was a Las Vegas police department detective that did a lie detector. There was somebody else that was a highly, like one of the top lie detector specialists in the world. And then not only did they believe that he was telling the truth on all of the lie detector tests without question. They even sent it to some of their colleagues to see what their thoughts and make sure and all their colleagues said 100% he's telling the truth. like if you even think like when you take a lie detector test especially the new ones like especially the stuff that's whatever yeah you can't fool it's very very hard to get away with that and especially something as big as that yeah especially something as big as that so he passed all the lie detector test um in addition and in which they ask him throughout those lie detector everything about his story and there was not one thing that he was dishonest on it's one thing to be extremely smart and tell a story like this

but then also be able to pass four to five lie detector tests. I mean, come on. I think there was one that was inconclusive, though. No. I never saw any of that. I did. I saw one that was inconclusive. I never read any of that because I looked that up.

Well, I did. Look it up and see. I'm just curious because I know I read one was inconclusive. But all the other ones he passed, you know, and it would be impossible to pass that. You know, you can't, you know, get away with it or whatever. That's probably the government probably said there was one that was in one. Well, and that's just like the government took away any credentials he's ever had. He's not worked this place.

He's not worked that place. He's not gone to this school. He's not been going to this school. Like they, you know. I don't see anything about it inconclusive. Well, I read that somewhere or saw it somewhere. I don't know. It was probably a debunker.

Somebody that was trying to. Yeah, it might have been. I don't know. I mean, I'm literally looking it up as we speak. But yeah. Yeah. I don't see anything. But I even typed in inconclusive.

I don't see anything about that. So, and, you know, they asked Bob, they said, Bob, if you could do anything, you know, if you could do this all over again, you know, what would you do? Would you do it all over again? Would you do the same thing? Would you? He said, I would have probably not came out with this at least as early as I did. Or maybe never. Because he said all it's done to his life has caused him.

negativity. Yeah, it's probably ruined his life. It's been a negative life since then. He's probably always having to worry. He's never made money on his head. Yeah, I mean, he's never made money. That's never why he ever tried to come out with anything. But to believe Bob is to, if you do the research, if you really did a research, and that's what we're trying to present to you here. You know, Bob Lazar is a guy that supposedly, allegedly, went to MIT and Caltech, even though they can't. find records on that but yet there has been there's been many colleagues sorry there's been many colleagues that have dropped him off at caltech and MIT they they were some of his colleagues were in class with him

you know I mean and these are things that you can look up and and these are people that said yeah he went there I've seen him I was there with him right and it's just funny like when you you look them up on Wikipedia they're like allegedly or he claims yeah because the government you know, they pretty much wiped him out. Yeah, I think they wiped him out completely. Yeah, I think they wiped his records 100%. I think they wiped his records. I think they got rid of anything that had to do with him being credible.

You know what I mean? If he had both these degrees, you know, there was something, I think there was something that someone asked, they said, you know, if Bob was, if you could prove right now that Bob went to both those colleges and you had a degree for both of those. you know, would it be, would you believe him that he saw aliens? And everyone basically said no. Well, I would because they wouldn't have hired him for the job.

But that's exactly a point. They have, well, let's get into that. They have proven, they have 100% without a doubt proven that, you know, he worked at Los Alamos. He was there. He has colleagues that were there that seen him there. And this is in Los Alamos is in New Mexico. Yeah, it was basically, I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, what they considered S4.

Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, Los Alamos, yeah. Los Alamos, and often gets confused, but, and let me, I'll just read to you. Los Alamos National Lab is the National Security Clarence is, is what Los Alamos is. And it's a material scientific lab. But, yeah, so, I mean, he was proven to work there. the project looking glass L-A-N-L

and that was all done at Los Alamos National Laboratory It's kind of funny when you look up Los Alamos Bob Lazard and Wikipedia comes up But yeah I mean so yeah he was proven to work there They have log books of him being there

That they've proven To me I think we have proven that the government's You know wiped his credentials out for sure. Unlike Richard Snowden, it was kind of a, it was an obvious thing that Richard Snowden, you know, he released documents and whatever on WikiLeaks and all this stuff. So there was really no way the government, you know, could really deny that, I guess.

It was easier for them to deny Bob Lazar because he didn't come out with documents necessarily and all this craziness that would just put him in the spotlight. But I think Bob was smart because maybe Bob. Bob didn't have, you know, I mean, I would assume he did, but he wasn't that done. He wasn't that done. He wasn't that done. You know, the internet was not as prevalent as it is now, even back in the 1980s. Yeah. You know, the way that social media is, the internet, you can find out about anything now.

You know, he didn't really have that avenue. Yeah. And so, yeah, I mean, well, and yeah, I mean, it was like whatever was reported then was truth. Right. And that's what everyone believed. And, you know, in some ways, it was, you know, was harder than. I think there's more, I think there's more options out there now for people to believe other things. Um, you know, and it's like we said in part one of this, it's like Bob's never, like Bob said, you know, the government's never going to come out and say, by the way, guys, we've been lying to you for, you know, how many every years that aliens existed. They're not ever going to say that. They're not going to say it for 70 something years. Um, what they would probably

do is dump a spacecraft out of the back of an airplane and then be like, oh, well, we found an air, you know, a spacecraft. You know what I'm saying? Right. already have. And regardless of our opinions, you know, the next broadcast we have, our podcast we have, we want to hear from the audience and we want to know about your opinions. Do you think, you know, what do you think about this? Do you believe in aliens? You're not, you know, what proof do you have? Yeah. Show me your proof. Show me. Show them the proof of the pudding. But let's, okay, so let's talk candidly now that we've, we've kind of got all the basics of Bob. let's talk about our opinions

you know my opinion to this whole thing is that obviously we're not alone in this in this universe there's no question without a doubt 100% I look I've always I've always thought you know before really really doing a ton of research on this

and that's the weird thing man it's like we should know in 2019 that everything you hear in the media is not true like if you guys don't know that by now then you're never going to know it 2019 is shown the biggest almost discredit to the media in history

and that's all and I'm not even necessarily talking about the political sides you know I'm talking about on both sides it doesn't matter if you're you know your political party it doesn't matter if you're Republican Democrat whatever it is media is based on what their agenda is and whatever and whoever's pushing that agenda

and it's funny like when while you're talking about that even like you're up when you're having Facebook conversations with people. You want a legitimate, like, group that you believe in, like a source that you believe in. Yeah, you want something. Right? You don't want this, like, crazy source that they're like, oh, no, that's just, you know. Yeah, yeah, well, it's like fake news.

Yeah, that's what I'm trying to get at, I guess. I mean, there's so much fake news out there, so much. And the thing about it is, is like, you know, what do you believe now? Because honestly, you can't believe the media. I don't believe that whatsoever, 100%. Well, I think there's reliable sources. I don't. I mean, you know, like I don't.

Like, I mean, it's hard to say. I believe there's a reliable media source. And I hate to say it, but, you know, it's like Bob said. Yeah, everybody has an agenda, I guess. It's like Bob Lazar said, you know, it is a, it should be a crime that the government is holding information back about this to the American people. And not only that, from his perspective on the science realm of this, okay, from the scientific, realm. Bob said you're never going to get anything accomplished in the science realm

in the science field without being able to freely share information and documents because there's no one group or no one person that is going to know the answer to any scientific problem necessarily especially as big as that.

And so by you just secrets, you know, making this whole thing a giant secret to where you're interviewing and bringing select people in and then you most of them wash out, you know, you're, you're, you're closing off what the possibilities are that we could actually figure something else out. And I think that was one of his biggest things is you're basically locking science out of this. Right.

You know, you're locking the science community out of this. And that is the, that's the worst part of this whole thing. It really is. But I, you know. And you wonder, why are they doing that? Is it out of fear? Is it, you know, why? I don't know.

That's a good question. How would you feel if the government came out and said, oh, by the way, you know, we have all these UFOs and we have aliens that are dead and alive. And we've been researching them for the last 20, 40 years, whatever. How would you feel about that? I don't know. I mean, here's the thing.

I don't know how I'd feel about that. But getting back to your question, like, why do they hide it? I mean, what is there a reason for hiding aliens exist? I don't know. I think some of it has to be fear. I don't know. They're afraid of fear of the public? Well, we should fear our own public more than we fear aliens nowadays, honestly.

Like, I mean, just think about it. Like, I don't think Americans are as fearful anymore. Americans especially are so desensitized to violence and crime and just craziness in 2019. So what is an alien going to do? Like, if you came out and said, hey, there are aliens here. I'm like, okay, so what? We got gang members like in my neighborhood. Like until these aliens are screwing my kids or they, you know, whatever, I don't give a shit about aliens.

You know, I mean, that's like, literally, that's probably how the public would be. They would just like, okay, well, there's aliens. Wow, that's cool. You know what I mean? Like, it wouldn't be a panic. Now, people would panic if, like, aliens just started to show up, you know, like Independence Day. Yeah, I was going to say, like, the movie Independence Day. I mean, that would be kind of freaky.

But that's not happened. Well, you know, I mean, I guess the good thing, the good outcome of it. Well, okay, so going back, if I had to, if I had to say one reason why we would be secretive about it, would be because of our own defense, our own, our own weaponry, our own ability to try to take something from this and use it against other countries in a war situation. Right, right. But like, but here's the thing. Like, there's been UFO sightings everywhere in this world. And you just read like an article about Russians and Americans working together on this.

Yeah, there was a couple things, yeah. But still, I think, you know. But I get what you're saying. You can't say the aliens just land or just crashed in, you know, the Western United States. Oh, yeah. It's probably all over the, you know, world. Well, there's been, like I said, there's been military bases that have reported crazy sightings at night. that they didn't know and they swore was aliens.

But it's just a weird thing because it's like, you know, what is the truth? Okay, I'll tell you my truth and this is what I believe. I've always believed that it was very possible that there were aliens out there. You know, I do have my faith in God, you know, and I do believe in God. And some of you may or may not. And some of you may have, you know, what you believe is God and what isn't. But regardless of any of that, even though I believe in God, maybe you don't, right? That still, to me, doesn't say aliens exist or don't.

It doesn't, you know, spirituality in any form or religion in any form is not going to say one way or the other, whether aliens exist. I mean, in the Bible, in the Bible, they say, you know, God's created the heavens in the earth. That doesn't say what the heavens are, you know? I mean, it says heavens, but it doesn't say heaven and earth. He created heavens and the earth. And the heavens in what many people refer to the heavens is space, right? Right. You know, but we don't know.

It's not a religion. To me, this is not a religious conversation. Oh, no. You know, to me is like, you know, okay, so we have a God. What if we had a God, right? Earth. What if there was a God for Earth for this, like, atmosphere? And what if there was a God for, like, these aliens?

It could be. You know what I'm saying? Or we could be like a little ant farm for aliens. Like, we don't know. Like if you really think about it. It could all be a simulation. I mean, who knows? We could be in like a little petri dish that these aliens are screwing with and seeing how, you know, I mean, we don't know.

We don't. And just to wrap your mind around that gravity and time distortion and all of this craziness, I mean, if you've ever watched a movie Interstellar, I encourage you to do so. Oh, wow, that was a cool movie. Because scientists have proven that what they did in that movie and kind of what they were trying to portray in that movie actually exist. that can happen. We don't have the capabilities of, you know, getting to what's known as a wormhole or any of that. It's almost like the time travel thing.

It is, yeah. It is. But it's like, I think, yeah, I think you're right. But it's taking the time travel into reality back to Area 51 or S4 or whatever. And I think the wormhole thing is not, I don't think it's as much time travel as based on what craft we're in. It's based on what part of space that we're going into. And I think that probably has to.

do with the you know that wormhole as they call it you know they call wormholes as places you can like really screw yourself over in time you know that's what interstellar says and that's that's a scientific thing too but i believe that all has to do with gravity as well i think whatever that gravity is there is different than here and so your gravitational pull probably in the wormhole is just instantaneous type thing to where if you come out of that wormhole going the opposite direction it might only take you in your time 20 minutes to come back out of the wormhole, but it might be 10 years later now here. Right.

And that's what's mind-blowing. And so for people to say that like, okay, well, aliens don't exist and the wormholes, space don't exist, you know, any of that shit, you're just, you're thinking close, you're thinking small-minded. Yeah, and you're close-minded. You're very small-minded. Okay, so what of this? And I might be getting off topic, but okay.

This is a discussion. Yeah, but I'm just saying, you know, when you think about what we need as humans to live, we need what? Air. Yep. Water. The sun. And beer.

I'm just kidding. That's a joke. But you know what? I don't even drink beer. You know what comes into play is we don't put gravity into play. We pretty much have to have gravity to live. Well, you don't have to have gravity. Well, I mean, the Earth has to have gravity, right?

So, right. Technically. So why is that not part of the, like essentials? I don't know. I mean, I mean,

I don't know. We should come out with an essential oil called gravity. Gravity. I don't know what it would smell like. It smelled like aliens. I don't know what aliens smell like. Yeah, what do they smell like?

It's Versace. And I want to know more about aliens. Do they eat? Do they breathe? I don't think they breathe. They have to eat. And I think they communicate like through their brains. But that is a good question.

Like, think about this. I was thinking about this today. When you were saying like the organs and stuff, like why would they have organs? Yeah, I was thinking about this. Well, they have, well, because I mean, at the basis of everything is life, right? So what sustains life?

And most parts, you know, like when we're going to Mars, but that's what it's here sustains life. Exactly. I know. Exactly. But see, this is the way it can get crazy. Yeah. What sustains life here may be different somewhere else. But, you know, when we go to Mars to try to investigate

whether there's water or organisms that are living, you know, and so they're like, well, we have to, they have to have water to be able to live in Mars. So we got to find water first before we find anything else. Maybe they don't need that on that planet. But maybe in Mars they do. Maybe our sciences are smarter now. I'm not a like big scientist guy.

Yeah, but maybe we don't need water to live in other planets. It's possible. Maybe we would. We would. But I'm saying other organisms, living organisms, don't need what we need here on Earth. Yeah, you're right. I believe that. Just like aliens.

It's just like if we go to Mars, for example, well, we're testing Mars to see if it is inhabitable for us based on what we need here. Right. But that doesn't mean that these aliens from, you know, wherever the hell that star system is, can't go to Mars and be like, hey, this is a cool zone. I mean, like, well, what did it? Like, why?

Like, it wouldn't be just like some crazy shit? They're like walking across Mars and they see our little rover if we actually have a rover there. And they're like, what the hell is this little thing? Like, seriously, they got a rover? Why don't they got people here, man? These people were stupid. I mean, and honestly, like aliens would have.

to be like, man, these people are dumb as hell. Yeah. But they were smart enough to come to Earth and figure out how to sustain life here. If they really are here and really are still alive. Well, I don't know that they're still here. Well, you said that where some were like cadavers and some were alive aliens. Yeah, then. Yeah. But we don't know if they're still alive. I think Bob Lazar actually went on record to say that he don't believe, he doesn't know. But he's like, I would assume that maybe, would they're probably not there anymore? He doesn't know. He doesn't know. He doesn't know. I mean, he doesn't know if they're there or not.

They got here based on their ways of living. It might not be air, son, you know, what we need to live. But also keeping in mind, yeah, you're right. Keeping in mind also that you remember, which is another thing we're going to do on an episode is the flat earth thing. Yeah. And a lot of what the flat earth thing has to do with kind of, if you're like a flat earth type person, you probably wouldn't believe in aliens necessarily if you truly are going to try to believe in some flat earth stuff.

Because, you know, the flat earth thing is not just about just having a flat earth. There's a lot involved in that. Like, does space really exist and all this craziness? Well, it's like basically we're an ant farm. Yeah, somewhat. Yeah, I mean. Really? That's what it is.

And so, but one of the things about that is like part of the, you know, part of, but the one thing I will take from the flat earth thing. and when Bob Lazar said, you know, is our aliens still at Area 51 or are they still, you know, at S4, which, you know, whatever, he don't believe they, they are necessarily, but he doesn't know. I mean, it's still highly secretive there. Right. He said, usually nowadays, you'll just see, you know, airplanes flying in there. You know, if you go around there, you'll see airplanes. You won't see typically the same sightings you used to see, you know, that they used to have. But it's weird because one of the of the things that flat earthers are big on is the south pole or antarctica and um what you know a lot of them say that antarctica is supposedly the edge of the earth right right or it could possibly be but here's the thing about that is like um you can't just get on an airplane and go to south to Antarctica you can but the thing is is that you're going to be escorted by tour guide you're going to go to the South Pole flag, which is pretty much right there. And you're going to be,

you know, you can't basically, if you go to South Pole or Antarctica, even though it's owned by no one, right? If you go to South Pole, you can't just like get in a little vehicle and go across the South Pole or Antarctica and explore. You can't do it at all. They, there will be guards. I mean, there are guards there with guns in Antarctica. I would like to research that. I don't know. Yeah, no, it is. It's 100% fact. It's crazy. so what if maybe there's some secretive thing in Antarctica? I mean, if aliens exist, which I believe they do, and I think this podcast, yeah, yeah, what if they move that to there?

I don't know. I mean, it's a weird thing why they would be so secretive and they're not just going to let you go wherever you want to in Antarctica. That is strange. And we really could go, like, dig deeper. Like when I was researching all the Area 51, then I started getting on to this. like hybrid stuff. And I mean...

Hybrid what? What do you mean? Hybrids. Aliens and humans. I was like, holy shit. So hybrid. There is really people that claim that aliens come to them

and take them like once a week and they actually... Once a week. I'm not kidding. Or like once, you know, like I've watched like a lot of stuff about that. I mean, it's really crazy. That's probably...

And they're actually taking like their, you know, ovaries or their eggs. you know, eggs out of their ovaries. See, I call that. I think that's bullshit. Personally. I don't know. I mean, who knows, man?

I mean, shit. I mean, we, we at once. But why are there so many people that, you know, are like on the same page that, oh, yeah, that happened to me? I mean, it's kind of crazy. I mean, it's not ever happened to me. No. I mean, but that's the thing, like, you know, I don't believe that. I mean, trust me, I know what you're saying.

But maybe you don't believe it because it's not happened to you. Yeah, I mean, possibly. I mean, but, you know, I've never been kidnapped, but I believe kidnapped has happened. But, okay, it's the same thing as ghosts. Do you believe in ghosts? You've not actually really seen a ghost, but do you believe in ghosts? Oh, man, that's going to be our next episode, paranormal. I mean, it's kind of like that.

Guys, by the way, our next episode is going to be about paranormal. Oh, well, thanks for let me know that, Chad. No, it is. It's going to be a series on paranormal and ghosts and, and, and, and, and, and, you know, And this is one thing that we definitely have had experiences with, Sherry and I, both. And it's insane. I mean, it is crazy that the stuff we've been through or experienced ourselves. We can't say we've ever really experienced aliens.

I have had, you know, and that's actually a good question for this. Have you ever saw aliens or what you thought was an alien? Yeah, because I think our third session, we're going to have people call in. Yeah, we are, yeah. And talk to us. Yeah. So anything that we've talked about in these last two, podcast?

Yeah, guys. Check our website. Check our website. Check do without fear.com. That's probably the best place to check it. I will put it right there on the homepage.

If you go to the homepage and you look and you just scroll down a little bit, I will put on there what the date of our live show will be. And it will probably be, let's see,

Thursday. I believe Thursday or... Maybe Thursday or Friday. Thursday or Friday. But I think it's going to be Thursday and we'll get you guys to call in. We want you guys' opinions and what you think and all that. About

everything we've said. Like, what do you believe in? Why do you believe in it? What proof do you have? Like, you know, what have you researched that we haven't? I mean, I don't really want to know. What have you seen? Let's talk about it. So yeah, I mean, we definitely want to get that going. It'll be a live show we'll be doing. And we're just going to take call-ins. And

that's going to be the whole show. However long it goes is how long it goes. If it goes three hours, we will. But I think it'll be... If it goes three minutes, it goes three minutes. No, it's not going to get. If it goes three minutes, then... You better call in. Then the live stream broke.

Call in. Yeah, but we're just going to... And how are they going to call in? We've got to figure that out. Yeah, no, we got it. Yeah, I'll have that information on the website. Okay. So, yeah, however we're going to do that, we'll get it done.

We want obviously the best quality. We'll make it the easiest for you guys to do that. So, yeah, we'll set that up for Thursday. But, yeah, I mean, the next series is probably going to be on paranormal. is something that we are pretty adamant on. And the crazy thing is neither of us until investigating this

were really adamant on on aliens really. I mean, we weren't, we knew the possibility of their existence. Right. But we never really understood kind of, you know, what really could be.

Right. And after investigating, I think that we both came to the same conclusion that we believe it. Yeah, for sure. After investigating it. Like, I wasn't so sure before. I didn't really even know about Area 51 until we started investigating.

But after investigation, I mean, I truly believe. So do you believe, do you believe Bob Lazard? Yeah, I do. I believe in flying saucers. Or extraterrestrial crafts. Yes. You know, it's just hard. Do you believe it more since the Bob Lazar and the heavy research?

Yes. Yeah. Yes. I do too. 100%. I mean, I always knew that was a definite possibility. Yeah, I've always believed that maybe there's been aliens. Maybe they can't get to us, but.

No, they can get to us. I think they got to us a long time ago. And we just didn't. And we didn't have the technology back then to deal with it. Well, there's a whole thing about ancient aliens. I don't know if you have ever read anything about that, but ancient aliens, I'm actually a part of a Facebook group on ancient aliens, and they basically believe that the ancient civilization and some of the things

that were created back in those times, which are pretty mind-blowing stuff, even pyramids back in the, I mean, some of the pyramids, which are massive. Yeah, probably have to do with that. Yeah, I mean, and not just that, some of the stone features that were back in ancient times. And maybe we should talk about that stuff too. I know. Yeah, I mean, yeah, that would be cool. Yeah, that would be a whole other thing.

Because I think that does make sense. Yeah, I mean, it's a, it's just a lot of, it's a lot of stuff that people didn't know that. Right. Everyone's always wondered how how people that far back could have possibly done that. I mean, it's insane. I mean, you can try to describe it however you want to, but, you know, I think the big thing is the society and the government, especially in the past, you know, 100 years, you know, they try to disprove a lot of stuff, especially when it comes to stuff that is outside of this world for whatever reason. You know, I don't know the reason to that.

Sherry doesn't know the reason that, but what I can say is that I do believe in aliens. I 100% believe in in Bob Lazar. I believe that what he says is true. I believe there is far more evidence for his truths than there is to discredit him. I believe there are far more people that are actually relevant people that said that they worked with him or saw him or knew him of this. Bob Lazard did not, you know, it's proven. You can look it up that Bob Lazar was hired by Los Alamos. He was actually working there. And so if he didn't have any degrees at all, there's no way he'd be working. working there and doing what he was doing. And I think that's what, if I had to give my biggest thing, that's the number one.

Besides all the people and the physicists that are world-renowned, they knew, they saw him, they all of that. But that's the one thing that I can say is like, you know, after all this, I 100% believe it. I think it's, I think it's something that. But maybe some of our listeners don't believe it. And maybe they have reasons why. And we want to hear from them. Yeah, for sure.

I mean, whether you believe it or not, yeah. Yeah, I mean, what I suggest to anybody, though, you know, before you just discredit anything, do research, you know, actually dig a little deeper. In this show, we've tried to give you as much information as we could is why we believe it. We're not crazy people or just believe any conspiracy theory that comes around. Anything that we're going to do in this, in this series, this whole episode, is strictly investigative. We're going to investigate any and everything. We're not necessarily people that are hardcore on. we've never been hardcore on aliens and Bob Lazar,

but we do heavy research on the subjects, and we kind of come up with our opinions. And we believe that aliens existed. We believe Bob Lazar story. We believe Area 51 or at least S4 was created for that reason. And it's something that you guys should definitely research as well to dig a little deeper. But yeah, I mean, I think that I think it's been good.

You know, if we have to dive back into this at some point, in time. We will. For sure. You know, if there's some new stuff that comes out or some of you bring the light, you know, some new information, we'll definitely dive back into this. We're not opposed to that. But just keep in mind, be checking our website for do without fear.com.

Just check that do without fear.com. You'll see it on the homepage. As far as the upcoming show, you'll see the little boxes down below. Also, you can check us out on iTunes, tune in, Spreeker, Google Play, pretty much everywhere you can get podcasts you can find us so be sure to check that out and it is investigate earth conspiracy podcast is the name of our show um and uh we've really enjoyed having you yes and remember we want to be interactive with you on the next yeah for sure on the next podcast yeah so call in so keep checking back on that on that website do without fear dot com and guys until next time we'll see you later

see you later