Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Catholic School Shooting Breakdown

Episode Date: August 28, 2025

In this episode, we cover the tragic Catholic school shooting that unfolded today in Minneapolis at Annunciation Catholic School. During a back-to-school Mass, 23-year-old Robin Westman opened fire, killing two children and injuring at least seventeen others before taking his own life. We break down what happened, the emerging details about the shooter, the response from law enforcement, and the stories of bravery that came out of the chaos. Join us as we discuss this devastating event, its impact on the community, and what it means in the larger conversation about safety in America’s schools and churches.Our Merchandise Store

Welcome to Investigator's podcast. I'm your host Chad alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. On tonight's episode, we're talking about the horrific shooting at the Catholic school in Minneapolis today. During a back-to-school mass this morning, 23-year-old Robin Westman opened fire through the stained glass windows. Two children were killed, 17 others wounded, and chaos broke out inside what should have been a safe place of worship and learning. The shooter died by suicide at the scene and authorities are now investigating possible motives, including whether this was a hate crime. In a middle of the terror, there were stories. of bravery like one child shielding his friend from the gunfire.

This tragedy is another stark reminder of how fragile safety feels in America's schools and churches. And all of this, we're going to break down on tonight's show. It is August the 27th, 2025. The name of this song is hard in America because whenever we talk about stories like this, it is very hard to talk about. I'm going to be honest with you guys. I was debating even doing this episode because quite honestly, things have just felt off lately.

The past three or four days, for me anyways. It's just like the world fills off. There's something out there that feels strange. And I woke up today to just a kind of cluster of text and all these other things going on. And I think it was Sherry that told me, hey, there's another school shooting at a Catholic school this time. And one of my first reactions was anger, right? Obviously, you worry and are concerned about the children and their safety and well-being. But it's just anger because this happens all too often.

and although the very first thing we started hearing on mainstream media was blaming guns or trying their very best to politicize this in any way they possibly could except for likely what the real reason behind this shooting was which is as something we've talked about very regularly is evil and mental illness. Yes. And mental illness is rampant in this country. And instead of mainstream media and the government in most cases trying to do something to help people that are mentally ill, all they're doing.

in a lot of ways is condoning a lot of the mental illness they're hyping it up they're protesting they're having parades for stuff they're having all of these various things to encourage people to look you're not mentally ill you're completely fine don't worry about it right and then on you know there's some of the stuff in the manifesto today that i was reading that we're going to also kind of break down a lot of what he said in the manifesto and i say he but he actually changed his name to she which is robin he was originally Robert Westman changed his name to Robin Westman. Yeah, like in seventh grade. Oh, seven, seven grade.

Yeah, when he was still a minor. Okay, when he's still a minor, obviously his mom signed off of it. We're going to get into all of that. But this is a hard topic. This is something that we do not take lightly when we talk about this. And the reason why we feel like we have to do this episode is because just watching all the mainstream media, whether it's MSN, B.C. or CNN or all of the other various news sources. They are just trying to hide everything they possibly can about this entire shooting.

And what we want to do is at least expose the truth. We want you guys to know about what actually happened today. And we're not going to glorify the shooter, although yes, we are going to read and talk about the manifesto. We want to dive into like why and what would lead someone to this. Because I think there is some key points in the manifesto that we should go over because there are things that he glorified or was obsessed with, whether it be school shootings or other people recently that has been in the news like Luigi Mangione, where he killed the United Healthcare CEO. We did a podcast on that a while back.

This guy was obviously way off mentally ill. He was evil. He is no longer around. Thank God, even though he is a coward by killing himself. He didn't want to face the justice system. But I just wish he would have killed himself before he killed others is what's really sad about it. And he knew he had emotional issues.

I mean, he wrote it. It was all over his manifest. But even knowing that, you know, he was still wanting to carry this act out because it was just stuck in his mind and he could not get around it. And he even said, I am not going to go to therapy. I'm not going to get help because it's just going to make me a target where they're going to put me on a hit list where they're watching me. Yeah. And he felt like in some of his writing that he was already on this, but that just opens up a whole other conversation about. like, well, how are we reacting to people that do have mental illness?

Is there something that we could be doing differently? And that's just the truth. I mean, for people that do truly have these thoughts of murder, of mass murder, of school shootings, of all this stuff, they're likely never going to reach out to someone for help. Because obviously, as this guy said, and we'll read it in just a little bit, you know, he felt like as soon as he reached out to a therapist or friends or family, he was automatically going to be put on a list or he was going to be put in a mental institution. and that is what he feared, which is why he never actually went and got help.

But I want to go ahead and actually read the story. So a children's mass at Annunciation Catholic Church and school in South Minneapolis ended in tragically Wednesday morning this morning when a gunman opened fire killing two children and wounding 17 others before taking their own life. Now, police say the shooting began shortly after 8.30 a.m. as students and parishioners gathered inside the church sanctuary. The suspect identified as 23-year-old Robin M. Westman of Richfield. fired a semi-automatic rifle through the church's stained glass windows,

and Westman also was carrying a shotgun and handgun all legally purchased. Now, he also used these other weapons. He not only just used the semi-automatic rifle, but he also used the handgun and the shotgun. Witnesses had teachers shouted for children to get down as pews splintered under the barrage of bullets. Peritioners tried to shield students as chaos spread. The gunfire stopped within minutes when Westman turned a weapon on himself, and the victim so far officials confirmed the following fatalities two children age eight and ten injuries 17 people in total 14 children between the ages of six and 15 three elderly parishioners in their 80s and hospitals reported at least seven victims in critical condition many require in surgery and we're going to get to that interview as well now the shooter westman had personal ties to the annunciation she aka he she attended the parish school as a child and her mother once worked there as a secretary and

let's just make something very clear. She is a he. I mean, she or he changed his name to she, like Sherry said in seventh grade. But, you know, he is a he. Hours before the attack, Westman uploaded disturbing YouTube videos showing weapons marked with anti-Catholic messages along with a hand-drawn floor plan of the church. Authorities also recovered writings that express hostility towards religion, suicidal thoughts, and threats against political figures, aka Donald Trump.

And it wasn't just Catholics that he was talking about. He basically was talking about everybody. He talked about Jews. He talked about Catholics. He talked about you name it. I mean, he kind of hated everybody. Well, he hated Jews more than he did anyone. And that's what I was reading on X today is like, if he hated Jews this much, why did he go after a Catholic church?

And why didn't he go to a synagogue? Yeah, it doesn't make sense. That is weird. The FBI in Minneapolis police are investigating the shooting as a hate-motivated act of domestic terrorism. Officials confirmed that the weapons were legally purchased in Minnesota and a vestigeous. Investigators are reviewing Westman's online activity and manifesto for insight into motive. Community response, Mayor Jacob Frey called the killings absolutely incomprehensible. Governor Tim Watts pledged state resources for families and survivors.

Donald Trump ordered flags lower to half staff nationwide in honor of the victims. And Pope Leo through Cardinal Pietro Perlin sent condoluses and offered prayers from the Vatican. Bishop Kevin Kinney visited victims' families at Hennepin Health Care, saying, the church community was devastated, but united in faith. And a family resource center has been set up to provide counseling, mills, and financial support for those affected. So I want to go ahead and get into the press conference. This press conference was immediately following the shootings.

This was probably about two or three hours, I guess, after the shootings. Yeah, and this is a police chief, the mayor. We'll get into this. And then we're going to break it down. We're also obviously on this episode going to get into the manifesto. We're going to also get into and break down his video. It's a 10 minute long video where he was talking some crazy shit. And I do want to play the video because I think that you have to understand this type of person.

And it's almost like a possession. We've talked a lot about that on this podcast where people can get possessed. They can go so insane if you allow that connection in from the devil. And especially with how much he hated Christianity or religion or Jews or whatever it is. I mean, he literally had a target. a range target for firearm target. He had that where he showed it on video and it had Jesus Christ with the thorn crown on top of him as the target. Right.

The headpiece of the whole target. Yeah. Yeah. And he kind of, he's scary laughs about it. And that's what's so scary because in this manifesto, he does talk about the hate of religion that it is manmade. You know, and I've talked about this several times. And it kind of scared me when I was reading this stuff. is like, gosh, I hope he wasn't listening to me.

No. Because, you know, a lot of times I don't hate religion, but it's hard for me to totally trust in religion because it is a, you know, a man-made religion. And he was kind of going off that same picture. Yeah. Even though, I mean, you're definitely not like this guy. I mean, yes, you question things about religion and what religion you should be in and how you should believe and what you should believe.

But this guy is demonic. He had evil in him that is through. and through, it is pretty obvious, actually, with how much and how much time and even the way he laughs and talks and, you know, part of that you could say is show, but this guy actually carried out these heinous acts, you know, and I would assume that devil was walking with him as he did this and he was walking him through the entire process. And if you guys have not listened to a lot of our episodes where we talk about this stuff, you know, demonic spirits on this earth are very, very real. And it was not only probably one or two or three episodes ago, where

where Sherry now we're talking about the fact of like if you do communicate with these things or even like Ouija boards or, you know, just the paranormal. You got to be very careful and you got to be very careful because you don't know what may attach to you. Now, you could say that this is absolutely just a mental illness, but this is a scar. This is a wound in this person that the devil latched onto and utilized and infiltrated. And I think that's, I mean, I just don't know how else to explain it. I agree. But let's go ahead and get into the press conference. There are no words that can capture the horror and the evil of this unspeakable act.

Children are dead. They are families that have a deceased child. You cannot put into words the gravity, the tragedy, or the absolute pain of this situation. We are a Minneapolis family. But to everybody out there, do not think of these as just, somebody else's kids. Those families are suffering immense pain right now. Think of this as if it were your own.

Every one of us needs to be wrapping our arms around these families, giving them every ounce that we can muster. These were Minneapolis families. These were American families. And the amount of pain that they are suffering right now is extraordinary. And don't just say this is about thoughts and prayers right now. These kids were literally praying. It was the first week of school. They were in a church. These are kids that should be learning with their friends. They should be playing on the playground.

They should be able to go to school or church in peace without the fear or risk of violence, and their parents should have the same kind of assurance. These are the sort of basic assurances is that every family should have, every step of the day, regardless of where they are in our country. I'm so deeply sadden and I'm so sorry to the families that I know are suffering right now. My ask is to everyone, stand by them, love them. These families have forever been changed and we've all been changed with them. We need to do everything possible to support them through this time. We have a family resource center that has been set up.

I'm grateful for all of the law enforcement agencies from a number of different jurisdictions and all the different departmental support that we've received. They're going to be working tirelessly. There's also a family resource center that is being set up as we speak to make sure that we're there for everybody. Again, to the families that are suffering, to those that have experienced loss, I'm so deeply sorry. We're going to be with you every step of the way.

We love you. This kind of act of evil should never happen, and it happens far too often. The chief will provide additional details. My name is Brian O'Hara, B-R-I-A-N-O-A-A-A-A-A-A-I-A-A-I-A-A-I-A-R-A-I-A-R-A-R-A-R-A-R-A-R-P-A-R-R-P-E-R-R-A-R-R-N-C-ROTOTIC-ChCh on the block behind me. This worship service was marking the first week of school for children that are attending the Annunciation Catholic School. During the Mass, a gunman approached on the outside, on the side of the building, and began

firing a rifle through the church windows towards the children sitting in the pews at the mass. Shooting through the windows, he struck children. and worshippers that were inside the building. The shooter was armed with a rifle, a shotgun, and a pistol. This was a deliberate act of violence against innocent children and other people worshipping. The sheer cruelty and cowardice of firing into a church full of children is absolutely incomprehensible. Police officers from the Minneapolis Police Department immediately responded,

entered the church, and attempted to provide first aid, and rescue some of the children that were hiding throughout the building, while other first responders came, and EMS responded to rush victims to nearby hospitals. Two young children, ages 8 and 10, were killed where they sat in the their parents have been notified. 17 other people were injured. 14 of them being children. Two of those children are in critical condition. The coward who fired these shots ultimately took his own life in the rear of the church.

Our hearts are broken for the families who have lost their children. For these young lives that are now fighting to recover. and for our entire community that has been so deeply traumatized by this senseless attack. We will stand together to protect our children, our schools, and our houses of worship. This deliberate act of violence is just a sign of cruelty that is behind comprehension. Our hearts are broken for everyone that's been affected by this tragedy. As we begin the difficult path of healing, I want the community to know this, that even in the face of such evil, the Minneapolis Police Department and all of our law enforcement partners stand with our community. We stand with these families and with this parish.

We will continue to be here for you. With that, the investigation is obviously in its preliminary stages, and I will attempt to take some questions to provide further. information. Chief, what can you tell us about the suspect in this case? How old was he any kind of So we were looking. The question was what can be said about the shooter? We believe it is one suspect, a sole shooter. We believe he is deceased. He is in his early 20s. Does not have an extensive known criminal history. And we are looking through information left behind to try and determine some type of motive. How many children?

I don't have an exact. The question was how many children at the school? There were dozens of children inside the mass at the time. I don't have an exact count. The children have been relocated into the school, which is where their families are reunifying with them. Reg. Was the shooter a student, a former student? Was the former employee, do the question was, do we know if the student was, if the shooter was a,

former school employee or a former student, we don't have that information. Did you leave anything about... There's a vehicle. The question was, was anything left behind? There's a vehicle that we believe that the suspect used that is being searched. And we will be conducting other searches related to this. Is this a vehicle and where was the parking lot here? There was some neighbors who said that the door to the church had been barricaded. Yep.

So the question was, neighbors had said that the door to the church, church had been barricaded. The shooter approached on one side of the church building, and on that side, at least two doors, it appears there had been like a two-by-four placed. So not all of the doors around the building, but on the side where the shooter did fire. On the outside, yes. The question was, was there any explosives that were found? The question was, was there any explosives? There were reports of that. There were no explosives or improvised devices that we found. I do believe there was one, I guess you would call it a smoke bomb, like not an explosive, but a sort of a firework that would release smoke.

And which side of the building? The side that is closest to us here on this side. Yep. Was it a reason why related to at the evening or by home? I don't have specific information on that that I can release. Yeah, the question was, is he dead from a gunshot wound? The answer is yes, we believe he took his own life in the parking lot. Is this outside or both inside that he was shooting?

The question was, was he shooting outside and inside? He was absolutely shooting outside of the building on the side of the church, inside through the windows. It appears he may have gone inside, but I don't believe we've located any casings inside the building. So I'm not certain if he fired also while inside. It appears, if not all, most of the shooting happened outside the building. So, yeah, Taylor's asking, is this related to any of the other shootings? This does not appear to be related to any other shooting in the city.

Do you know approximately how many rounds were fired? The question was how many rounds? I would say it's in the dozens. We don't have an exact count. There's a sidewalk on the outside as well as a grassy area. So obviously we are going through and taking our time to process the scene. Question was, was he firing one weapon? We believe he had fired all three.

He had a rifle, a shotgun, and a pistol. The key, boys, this individual? Were the weapons, was he lawfully carrying the weapons? I don't have that information, and I don't have any information on any significant criminal history either. Was he dressed at all in any? It appeared he had some black clothing on his cargo-type pants. I guess you could interpret that as, you know, however you like. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for help.

All right, so that was the press conference. and sorry, it was mostly in the right ear there, but it seems like all of the press conferences that we are able to find is either in left or right ear. So I want to break down a couple of things. Obviously, the mayor was the first one you heard talk. He is the mayor of Minneapolis. And he says, you know, this is not about thoughts and prayers.

These kids were literally praying when they were shot. Obviously, the suspect in this case, Robin Westman, was shooting from outside of the church building or I guess you can say school. And, you know, that just kind of makes me even think, more cowardly shit from him. He could not face them. He wanted to shoot from outside. He did not want to see what actually was happening inside of the church.

That kind of is what it makes me think. Well, and he even barricaded some of the doors. And he shows this on the video. It's like this long planked board. And on the side, it's got like gas. And it says something bad about Jews. But he literally was barricading them in so they couldn't get out. Yeah.

Which the whole thing doesn't make sense about the whole Jew deal, right? Because he goes to a Catholic church. to write stuff about Jews on a board that he's barricading people inside of a church. That's also very strange. Well, and it's not just that. I mean, he has many messages about that in other things and other people. Yeah, and we're going to get into all that. But it's just weird, right?

I mean, you go to a Catholic church to kill kids, which is, I guess, what he wanted to do. This was a targeted attack, as they said. Yeah, against children. Yeah, as the mayor said, they should be able to go to school without worrying about being shot and killed. but you know you have to understand this church this school is a soft target why is it a soft target because there are no people with guns there if you have people in areas with guns then you're automatically on a level playing field with a potential shooter in this situation so for example like schools elementary schools high schools most schools in america have school resource officers now

and we had talked about that with nick duncan on many episodes where you know we're talking about even today, like all these high schoolers that are committing all these crimes, these shootings in Spartanburg and throughout the country, you know, how do you kind of interject into this and stop the violence between or at least, I guess, within the youth community. And the only way you can kind of do that is to infiltrate them in schools and figure out what they're doing, who they're hanging out with, what gangs they're a part of. But this, and in this particular instance, I guess they do not have school resource officers at a Catholic or private school.

I don't know that any actually private schools or Christian schools have school resource officers. That is one good thing about public schools they do. But even that, you know, Sherry, you were in the school season for a very long time. You know, you guys only have one school resource officer. Well, I don't really want to divulge that information to people out there in the public. But yeah, there are usually at least one. But you never know their schedule. You never know where they're going to be.

They can show up at your room. They can be in the administration office. and that's part of their job is to be out through the building inside and outside to protect the building. But like we were talking about earlier, it's hard for one resource officer to protect a whole school. Yeah. But at least, you know, with school resource officers, you do have someone there with a weapon that is able to potentially neutralize a threat if need be, which is also the reason why

resource officers are supposed to be moving throughout the building, never in the same place. because if you get into a pattern and someone is watching our case in a school, they're going to be able to figure this out. And this is what this guy did. He cased the place. He was a part of this school at one point in time. You know, he had a history here.

So he kind of knew how things worked. He knew the building. He likely also knew when this mass was going to happen in this particular area of the building. So we kind of had all of this planned out. But I just want to make something clear, like where the mass was happening was in the actual church. But the school is like almost a block away. So they had moved all the children into the church for this mass kind of opening ceremony, you know, fun times begin with school and, you know, how much fun we're going to have learning this year. And this is what this was supposed to be.

And it turned out to be a very, very sad incident. Yeah, for sure. Now, this shooter also had all of this writing with this white pen or white marker that went on all of his weapons. So not only it was writing on his weapons, but his magazines, you know, like we said in this particular case, he had three different weapons he actually took to the school. And they all had writing on them. And so let's break down some of that writing and what it means. So if you guys have saw the videos, it's kind of hard to decipher what some of this stuff

means. And some of these words are censored just to, I guess, kind of in brevity, what I would say. And some of them are in different languages. Some of it is English and some of it's Russian. Yeah. Breivik, it says, reference Anders Bering Breivik, perpetrator of the 2011 Norway attacks. That was one of the writings. Brenton Forever references to Brenton Terrant, the Christ Church Shooter, which also, by the way, the Christ church shooter had all of the very similar writings on his weapons when he committed the Christ's church shooting in New Zealand. He also has, like a Phoenix, we rise from the ashes, symbolic metaphoric statement of rebirth or resilience. He also had F-T-W references either F-The-World or For the Win.

There was also 6 million wasn't enough. It references the anti-Semitic statement regarding Jews. Born to shit, forced to wipe, references 2019 meme. He also had writing FD or FO unclear meaning on that, such as life is one of them. Soul Pais, which is referencing a teen shooter that was linked to a school threat in Colorado in 2020. He also had burn Israel on one of the weapons. He had destroy H-I-A-S or highest reference in highest Hebrew immigrant aid society, assistance refugees.

He also had F-E-E-E-E-T-E-E-E-E-S-E-E-E-E-E-E-S-E-E-E-E-O-E-W-E-E-E-S-E-E-W-E-E-E-O-W-E-E-E-E-W-E-E-E-E-RU-E-E-E-RU-E-E-E-RU-E-RU-E. There's also some more Russian writing that slightly misspelled correct spelling is kill yourself. He also had another Russian writing that says, I am a nightmare. He had also nuke India. He had the big one. He had a fart inward. He had Russian wording saying hate or kill yourself. He also had wording saying kill Donald Trump.

He also had rip and tear. He said, for the children on one weapon. He also had R-02, likely a weapon or magazine, nation. He also had May Vey, referenced in Timothy McVeigh, Oklahoma City bomb in 1995. He had Karen Brad, referencing username associated with Adam Lanzah, Sandy Hook

Shooter. He had the word fuck. He had sorry, mom on one of them. He had come, CUM. He had pain and hate. He had made in thee, and it's incomplete or unclear. It did not really, you couldn't really read exactly what that said. He had ha, ha, ha, ha, ha,

referencing the Joker style laugh. He had R-0-0-4. He had more than 10. He had F you eat shit. He had the F word as in faggot. He had R0-3. He had I Love You. He has Get Claped.

He has hate you. Vape good. F this world. R-06. Unhappy emoticon. Bird, unclear what that means. Mashala, which is Arabic, God has willed it. Lanza Rishkas.

Reschahov, referencing Adam Lanzah again. Whiteman Lapine references Charles Whiteman, possible homage to another shooter. Then you have Avere Holmes, referencing James Holm, the Aurora shooter. You also had N-51. You had Skabidi.

You had Psycho Killer R-Dash-Zero-1. You had a smiley-face emoticon. You had Change My Stars. You had Scum Gang. Trilolo-Lo. You had 69. you had the word F buck graffiti symbol unclear

kick a spick which is a racist slur upside down pinagram you also had 666 666 plus 79419 you had another one that says have fun you had killer sedist sponsored by black rock

on another one evil face drawing killer you had live or sorry live laugh love each on separate magazines you had a Vakili weaver. You also had in Russia vodka and Reb. Reb may reference electronic warfare or a personal code.

Number 74 is there is no message. Number 75 minus 51. Number 76 is 13. The number 13. You had Ada. You had a smiley emoji. You had extra thick T-H-I-C-C. You had Jew gas.

Then you had Guy Bartas referring to Guy Edward Bartkus, a man who carried out a 2025 bombing at a Palm Springs fertility clinic. You had eat shit. You had inverted cross. You had released the list. It says. Warning, no remorse. You had pain. You had freedom.

Where's your God now? F this world. Take this. All of you and eat. You had Bark Khazod. You had SSB-B-S-T-S. possibly personal code you had kiss me you had f optics uh riddler reference dc comics character maybe you had also humanity is overrated you had nothing ever happens also in russian i will

and it was an unfinished statement dot dot dot ted k probably referencing ted kzensky the unabomber um it also says do you believe in god hello brother play on which is an experimental film title it was in russian Kill Pitos. Robert Buehers. Miramie. Well, you're here. Rup now. You also have Follow Me. You Wu. You also have Waco, likely represent the 1993 Waco Siege. We live in a society, which is a meme or cultural phrase. Thank God, Per Breivik, which is Andrew Ravik, was responsible for the 2011 Norway attacks that killed 77 people. You had bowl-pilled, a meme slang. You had Kill Trump Now. You had Penguin artwork. We had We Was Kang. which is a meme or racial trolling. You have remove kebab meme anti-Muslim slogan.

You had Israel Must Fall. You had fuck Naija. You also had in Russian shoot yourself. And then you had E-Dups. And then you had Russian nightmare. So the interesting thing about all these writings, you know, let's not just make it about Jews because, you know, he talks about Muslims. He talks about India.

He talks, obviously, he just killed Catholics. You know, it was like he hated all religion. Yeah. But what was really sad is, like, Like on the barrel of the gun is where he had the smiley face, you know, almost like he was imagining that he was pointing at an innocent child with a smiling face. Yeah. It's pretty sick. It's absolutely sick. And we're going to go over his manifesto in just a second. And then we're going to break all this down. Like, what does this really mean? Is there a bigger meaning? Is he just crazy or is he just evil? But like what is the true meaning behind all of this? Because it's almost like with all the writings on all of his guns, you can't. really point to one thing. I mean, you know, you could say Jews, which I'm sure the Jews will run with or the Jewish people will run with or the Jewish propaganda media. I don't know that Muslims are going to run with anything because they don't really have a lot of say so in American. Yeah, the Russian language is another thing. And then he also had a lot of stuff in Cyrillic, I guess language. We'll get into that and just a little bit. But I wanted to go ahead and he had a video, which is highly disturbing. And guys, I want to go ahead and preface this. And I should have preface this in the very beginning. If you guys have kids or whatever, don't let them listen to this because obviously, you know,

you don't want your kids scared going to church or not church, well, church or school. Yeah. But this is a video that he had posted. And it's 11 minute video that was posted by this psychotic shooter. And he kind of goes through some of his manifesto, but he doesn't really talk a lot about what's in the manifesto. Instead, he just kind of has a lot of weird things going on. And you can just kind of hear his mentality and his sick mind in this 11 minute video.

And we'll talk on the backside of this, listen. Here's my note to my family and shit. Wow, some English writing. Wow. Hope you can read that. Yeah. Peace, love, unity, and guns. Fucka, my brother.

And he's throwing down ammo on his letter to his family. It looks like probably 40 rounds or so. It looks like 9mm. 9mm. Ah, get fucked. And he's talking referencing his beer coozy. It says, This message brought to you by Black Rock.

and Exxon Mobile. Sponsored by Pab's Blue Ribbon, Brandon Herrera for president. All right, I got to pause here. Obviously, he's talking about Block Rock again. He's referenced this in his manifesto. He says Brandon Herrera for president. If you don't know who Brandon Herrera is,

he is this huge guy on YouTube that has, he's known as the AK guy. He's also on X, obviously. but Brandon Herrera, donut operator, a lot of the, I guess you can call gun tubers or the gun influencers on YouTube. Brandon Herrera was a guy that was running for a seat in Texas. And Brandon Herrera is one of the most, I guess, most well-known gun YouTubers on YouTube besides Demolition Ranch and some of those others. But, you know, this is yet again a reference to a YouTuber. There was another school shooter.

I don't know if it was a school shooter. I can't remember exactly who it was. Yeah, it was the Catholic girl in Texas. No, I don't think that's what it was. Okay. No, I don't think, but I remember when they mentioned demolition ranch, ranch. But yeah, so he was referencing, there was some other shooter that was referencing Demolition Ranch or Matt is his better known name. Matt actually retired from YouTube.

He did his last video like seven or eight months ago, but I cannot remember who the shooter was at this time. But this guy talking about Brandon Herrera, he talks about he met Brandon at a shot show, which is a shot show is like a big gun expert. Bo Brandon Herrera actually went on to release a statement after hearing that his name was mentioned, which we'll get into that statement in just a little bit. But I just wanted to kind of explain Brandon Herrera for president. It's like he's trying to put everyone into the manifesto, everyone that he can possibly think of, whether it's Jews or Christians or Catholics or Muslims and the YouTubers that are on the right and Donald Trump and even, you know, what was it, the fertility clinic. and literally everything in all of this is trying to reference everything. It's almost like a puzzle is what he was trying to create to where you didn't really 100% know what he was pissed off about. But then he talks about BlackRock, Exxon Mobil in his manifesto, which we'll get into later.

He also mentions, you know, United Healthcare. So you think about Luigi Mangione, which also killed the United Healthcare CEO, which will get into likely why someone would be mentioned in all this shit. to me, from everything I have been thinking about on this, this guy is a product of complete insanity and brainwash for mainstream media and everything that he consumed on a regular basis. Like, Sherry, you remember when Luigi Mangione, after he shot the United Healthcare CEO, and supposedly that was because, you know, health care is so awful in America. We pay so much, but we get little health care, which he also mentions in his manifesto. And this guy mentions his manifesto. but you know i remember we did an episode on it and it was like on the mainstream media when they would bring out luigi in new york when they landed him in new york with a helicopter and they

do like the perp walk it was like a walk that they did in joker the movie or something like that where he was handcuffed um he had shackles he was in an orange jumpsuit he had like a hundred people yeah 50 to 100 law enforcement officers around him it was all like all the cameras were there ready to take this amazing shot they They almost glorified Luigi in a lot of ways of mainstream media. They made him look like this hero of the alternate side of anti-establishment, anti-capitalism. This has been a mass movement for quite a while, the anti-fascist movement, I guess you can say. Luigi was probably in that.

This guy seems like likely he is on the anti-fascist movement because he kind of hates everything. Well, and also, too, he has self-diagnosed himself with. having lung cancer from vaping. He was never diagnosed, but he says in his manifesto that I'm probably dying of lung cancer. And maybe that's why he hates health care. But I don't think he ever got diagnosed with lung cancer. He just felt like he was dying.

Yeah. Well, we're going to listen to a few more minutes of this. But I just want to break it down since you guys cannot see this video. And if you want to see the video, there's a lot of videos out there on X or wherever you want to see and probably mostly on X because I'll be honest. like everything everywhere we go to try to find information about this has been censored a band except for x is a facebook instagram youtube or chat gbt you name it everything is four chans banning it too yeah so it's like they don't want the information out they don't want

any of this information out for whatever reason maybe they think this guy is going to idolize other people but i think really it's more so on the on the term of like they don't want to be blamed because of how much they propped up you know whether it's the transmuth movement or the ideological beliefs of a lot of what people have established in our minds as like, you know, the system, everything about everything is bad, especially the right and especially capitalism and especially all this, is the anti-fascist movement. It's the socialist movement in whole. And I don't even necessarily think this guy 100% is one particular side.

I think this guy is just crazy and evil. But let's listen to some more of this video and we'll break it down as we see it. Yeah. I met Brandon Herrera at Shoshaw last year. He and I had a conversation, a brief conversation, but we agreed on a lot of things. So y'all should vote for Brandon Herrera for president. And vintage warfare promotes love and peace and accepting differences.

Tomorrow. I'm sorry to my family. But that's it. That's the only people I'm sorry to fuck those kids. Skavity. Shit. And right now he's just walking through his house. He's pulling out of vape now.

I regret everything. I didn't ask for life. You didn't ask for death. Yeah. watch my nine millimeter go bang now he's showing a picture of this this paper target and has Jesus Christ as the head of the target

now he's showing all of his weapons that has all the writing on them which we read all the writing already in the previous post and he's basically picking up all the magazines why so quivious where's your fucking God now And as you hear him, he's like, you know, where is your God now? Yeah, but it's almost like he's getting off on it.

Like having an orgasm about it. Give it a ris. It's Satan in him. That's what it is. He's connected with something. Skogang gang. This magazine says, for the children. Trun-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la.

And then this magazine is the one is. Kick a spick and 666. The big boy. And that's the double mag, right? Yeah. Fucking rip and tear. Rip and tear. That's the big one.

Just sickening. Don't forget to live laugh and love. Live laugh and love is on three magazines for his 9 millimeter. Each one having live laugh and love on them. And this one's for me in case I need it. And this is a revolver. Looks like probably a 38. This is for his suicide weapon.

Yeah. And he's actually putting it to his head, kind of showing this will be for him. Now he's showing the smoke bomb that they were talking about in the press conference. And it says extra thick on it. Eachit, motherfucker. I've got smart. He's showing his shotgun now, which has no remorse on it. released the list

is Roma's fall some other writing FTW which we talked about and this is all on the shoddy he has a lot of Russian writing on a lot of this stuff and the funny not funny but the weird thing is as he's looking at all this stuff

and he's shown now his AR-15 it's like he's possessed you know and it could be a show but you know the fact that he The fact that he went through with this for days. Something was in him for that long to make him go through this.

No, actually, he had these thoughts since he was in seventh grade. Yeah. Oh, another one. Where should get motherfucking bravick engine? And he has

near noise canceling earmuffs, which I'm assuming he probably used while he was shooting people. Well, he was saying because he wanted to listen to the cries of the children. Boy, he wouldn't be able to hear her because if you have noise-canceling headphones on, you don't. He said there were headphones that he could hear them cry. No, that's bullshit. Those are noise-canceling.

Those are range headphones. He didn't want to hear them is what he really. Well, he may have said whatever, but he didn't want to hear them. That's why he had those headphones on to where you couldn't hear him. Nor did he want to see them, which is why he shot from outside. which is also why he killed himself because he's a coward little asshole yeah and he's showing all of his holsters all this stuff i mean that's pretty much the end of this video does this sound like possession does it sound like somebody that's crazy does it sound what does it

what does it sound like to you guys i mean it sounds like a psycho to me i don't know how else to say it i don't know how else to kind of word it i want to go over some of his manifesto here because some of this stuff you know is someone actually tried to translate as much as they possibly could. I did too. Yeah, and you did too, Sherry spent all day. Yeah, so Sherry spent all day trying to figure out the manifesto where the manifesto was. Everybody was hiding it.

All of the social media, all of the chat GBT, all of the AI was hiding it and censoring it except for GROC, which is X's AI, chat GBT, as soon as they caught on to this, probably about an hour or two later, they wouldn't even write a news article for you or to tell you who the victims, not who the victims were, but like the number of victims, the number of injured, they said it goes against our community guidelines and so on and so forth. So I want to go ahead and get into this manifesto and what this, you know, what AI kind of came up with. All right. So like I said, this is, you know, sensitive.

It kind of expresses this suicidal ideation, personal grievances, justification for violence. Obviously, we do not justify any of this stuff. We want to read this just so you understand this psycho's mind. But fully transcribed manifesto, and I don't think it's complete, but core letter to the family and friends. It kind of essentially says, I love you all. I'll remember you.

I'll remember you. I pray for the victims and their families. I love you. Dad, mom, Jack, Martha, Teresa, Joe, Jared, Phil, and Liam. And it says Robin,

M. Westman 2002 to 2002 to 2025. It says also PST, get over yourself and make up with your mom. She loves you. You need to grow up and accept that time just keeps on FN moving. You either will stop in the past and rot,

wasting your life and happiness away, or you can grow up and move on from things. We all love you. This is the last page. of his farewell note. Yes, but let's go ahead and read the actual, I guess, farewell message to his family. To my family and friends, I don't expect forgiveness and I don't expect any apology. I have told I have hold much weight, but to my family and those close to me, I do apologize for the effects my actions will have on your lives.

Please know I care for all of you so much. And it pains me to bring this storm of chaos into your lives. This will affect so many people that the ones that are immediately involved. To my mother and father, I am sorry I didn't turn out. as you had hoped you did not fail me you gave me so much i truly appreciate the love you have given me i feel i was raised to be a good person i've kept those traits of empathy self-sacrifice and good character please do not think you have failed us as parents i was corrupted by this world and have learned to hate what life is life is love life is pain there is too much to accept

too many things to put up with just to live i am tired of the pain that the world goes out please move on and continue to give your love to your brothers and sisters and the rest of the world they may not forgive you but you need to move on from me forget my life and the pain i've brought i love you both thank you for everything i'm sorry to my siblings i'm sorry for forever tainting the rest of your lives your lives relationships and will be turned upside down please hold on to who you are not who i am change your names if you must i wish i could tell you that before i go please know that i love you all and truly appreciate the time i have spent with you i have so such an amazing family and it hurts me to throw this wrench into the works for you, um, for you of good people. I feel hope when with you,

I cherish our time together. I appreciate all that you have taught me and I felt inspired to be like you when I grew up. I hope you, you are able to move on and continue your lives without being forever followed, forever haunted by my actions. Um, forget me and all that I am. Hold on to yourselves and your loved ones. I love you all. And to my friends, I trust you all to give your memory of me however you see fit. I am sorry for the confusion and heartbreak this will bring. I truly appreciate all of you for showing me a good life and helping me through dark times. I've had so many good times that gave me hope. Unfortunately, this world has too much pain to deal with out that I cannot cover up the good

sides of life. I hope you all can move on and forget the pain I've caused. I have wanted this for a long time. I am not well. I am not right. I am a sad person haunted by these thoughts that do not go away. I know this is wrong, but I can't seem to stop myself. I am severely depressed and have been suicidal for years.

Only recently have I lost all hope And decided to perform my final action Against the world I don't want to kneel down For the injustices of the world I want to die I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees Constantly in pain I think I am dying of cancer

It's a tragic and it's not entirely self-inflicted I did this to myself as I cannot control myself And I've been destroying my body Through vaping and other means I think I have lung cancer I have felt many pains that make me think I am past a point of recovery I do not want to recover

I do not want to throw my life away by rotting in a hospital bed. I don't want the rest of my life to be a cancer patient in and out of hospitals constantly being fretted about the people afraid to be happy around me. Fuck that. I want to go out on my own means. Unfortunately, due to my depression, anger, and twisted mind, I want to fulfill a final act that has been in the back of my head for years. You all are what kept me going. I find no more interest in anything material. I have only an interest in my mission and love for my family. If I didn't have such an amazing group of people around me, I would have been gone much sooner.

I just want to escape from the world, escape from the constant bills, shitty jobs, shitty people, and injustice of America. I am done with this. I will not bow. I will not be selfish and leave you to pick up the pieces. It's my fault. Blame me, but please move on. Whether you accept my apologies or not, I hope you can all move past this and continue

your lives. Remember to be good people. Now more than ever, the world needs more love. Even if you don't get it in return, please find hope, find love, and stand up to injustice. So these have obviously appeared to be like a diary-like entry of additional thoughts. And there were some things written from Cyrillic, but meant to be read as English. And it sounds is kind of transliterated them to Latin script and then interpreted from a phonic English where possible, based on community analysis and grogks reading. They are fragmented and repetitive, focusing on planning, depression, and self-justification.

Not all are fully legible. But so here, here's some of it. And I got to kind of move on from where this Cyrillic language takes over because you don't really understand. But it says, this seems to ramble about filling like an abstract or damaged person concerns about filling a poem or role, possibly poetic justice or atomic act. Planning an attack on a combo location likely to church references to guns, weapons, keys to keys drop off or gun and expressions of risk depression. And finally, it's incoherent by echoes themes of self-destruction and escape from pain. from another page decoded, Who am I?

Where will this end? Help me. I don't want to help. The bottom says, kill yourself. So here's some other language, but Cyrillic pages follow similar patterns where repetitive phrases about alienation,

plans for a final act and suicidal thoughts. For example, one translated expert from community sources, when I was little, I wanted to be dot, dot, dot, dot, these thoughts that I, dot, dot, dot, I know how difficult it is to find the right words when you want to explain what is happening in your head.

Sometimes it seems like thoughts are moving too quickly, jumping from one to another, and it is impossible to catch them all. But I am trying. I am trying to find a way to express what is inside of me, even if it seems impossible. The world around me seems so alien, so hostile. The people I meet seem alien to me, as if they are speaking a different language. I feel detached, isolated, but I do not give up. I continue to search for meaning, continue to search for a path. If you like, well, and then it says dot, dot, dot, dot.

So these are obviously also thoughts, right? And then he also says, I have had thoughts of mass murder for a long time. I am very conflicted with writing this journal. I need to get my thoughts out without getting put on a watch list. Ha! Exclamation point. This journal is not going to be organized or easy to read. It'll be a brain barf of thought.

Lately, I have been entranced into setting off a mass shooting. I have known about these events for decades, even in the time being morbidly obsessed. As of lately, I have really let myself go indulging in every mass shooting video I can find. My interest in specifically school shootings started, I think, in seventh grade. I remember one day I was talking to Valerie. She was my crush and I was on and near kind of a high. I asked them if there was a school shooting, where would you hide? I don't remember why I asked that, but it seems to scare them and then I laughed off to myself.

I got in big trouble for this, but not too bad. I basically promised I didn't mean anything. I got suspended for a week. I think the police never went deep but would, but would be surprised. I remember every school I went to. I had some fantasy at some point or another of shooting up my school every, even every job. When I was in the seventh grade, I don't remember ever talking to a therapist. I was basically mad.

Sure, I was not a threat. Then locked down, me in the meeting room when I was at school for that week, laughing my ass off. I think that was my step in my thought and then realized in some feelings of hatred and malice in my head. I think that's committing a mass shooting is not the right thing to do. I cannot let myself do anything like that. But God, eff and damn, it feels so good to indulge my thoughts. I have so many reasons why I cannot do it. I cannot, I can't do it to my family. I love them and they love me. I simply can't do it to them. Another huge reason I glamorize is my addiction to entertainment. I have lost all long term, L.O.L. I wouldn't want people finding my skit clips,

laughing my ass off. Man, clips are so ass and I would get so effing roasted. I also don't really think my name sounds like a school shooter name, L.O.L. Robin Desmond. Nah, and my face isn't crazy enough. L.O.L. I ain't not enough of a freak. Ha, ha, ha.

Anyways, for the people that read this, if any, hopefully not abroad, laughing my ass off. Don't immediately freak out. I really just want to piece to my thoughts. I guess piece together. I can't talk to a therapist or family because I will immediately be reported and put on a watch list, bananas. I feel like I might already be on some kind of list due to my constant consumption of mass murder and violent content. I recently watched the film's Elephant Class Heart of America. I basically skipped the whole movies and just watch the massacre scenes.

I don't even know why the internet explicitly films. Funny story, you know, like it would probably be unsettling and suspicious if FBI or someone saw my YouTube history. but I don't think it is weird enough for law enforcement to step in. Sorry, there is going to be a lot of mistakes. I am tired and this writing style is hard and stupid. I am writing in Cyrillic text, but English is phonics. I also sprinkle some Russian words, I think, terrible grammar and spelling. I have been learning Russian for many years, but never really learned.

I also think I might already suffer that I could write in Cyrillic very inconsistently. But, hey, it works for me. Since I got access to the internet, I have been seeking. out gore and violence. I have been fascinated with firearms and weapons since I was little. I consider myself a pretty non-likeable person, not just on firearms, L.O.L.L. I definitely have a big ego and a bit of superiority complex. I think the reason I have let myself go lately is my fear of health complications. I have been smoking and vaping. For over seven years now, the consequences seem to be making themselves known. I am terrified of cancer and dying painfully. I think my major

aspirations have always been my ideal to take control. It seems to give me solace to visualize and thoughts of planning and attack. Today I assembled a school shooting cosplay. I have a ton of airsoft guns in gear and I put together a wicked layout including the AR pump shotgun and two pistols as well as many mags in gear. I have been really wanting to put together a racing for the moment any left to do and the gear is honestly felt amazing. I could feel the gravity of my outfit and I made and I made out as,

if shooting is my apartment, including a police shootout. And basically, it was really fun and satisfying. It was relieving and I didn't want to take it off. I have never really done that before, creating a layout specifically for shooting up a school around the time I was in seventh grade. Nerf guns, but never dressed apart. Today was a more serious feeling than I expected. I felt a bit of guilt, but many enjoyment. When I went to look in the mirror, I really didn't like seeing my face.

So I put on a skull mask. I liked that, but look still didn't like seeing my size and forehead. I put on a baseball cap and a direct call out to Nicholas Cruz. I almost found it weird. I wanted to see in my face. I have literally been creating shooting scenarios in my mind, including school, university malls and stores. I have tons of realism mods and stories to enact those events, mainly for the fun, but also

able to see how I could maybe cope with things. Nonetheless, I love it and crave more. I get bored of the NPC behaviors and crave more fear and devastation, which scares me. I don't want to do this, but I feel a deep calling to create devastation and death. I don't think I'll do it, but I can't be certain. So there are definitely shootings that stick out, and this is 524-25 that he wrote this. There are definitely shootings that stick out more clearly in my head than others. Some stand out more than others due to the kill count.

Devastation or good, maybe bad performance of the shooters. I wanted to see big events happen on my birthday, June 17th, and was so disappointed at what went down. The loser Brendan Clyde tried to shoot up a courthouse, idiot. it bro wasn't thinking mad shit and his tactical and in his tactical and got absolutely roasted by a security guard with a pistol bro killed no one barely grazed a guard's vest didn't make it into the building he ran away and bled out in a parking lot while pissing himself how pitiful what a disgrace i am embarrassed to have that be the shooting that happened on my birthday i think his biggest mistake was attacking a courthouse he also advertised his attack for days for posting across the street

It's all about surprise bro wasn't locked in. Bro wasn't after what I want to do. I have a deep fascination with some men in the particular, Adam Lanzah. What a effing freak. Ha ha, Sandy Hook was my first, I think exposure to school shootings. I can remember vividly when I heard about it. I remember sitting on the computer lounging in, I think, fourth grade. Wii you or something along doing work on our computers.

When a little notification popped up on the screen saying 20 children and six adults shot and killed at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newton, Connecticut. I remember not really knowing what that meant. I don't remember my classmates or teachers' reactions, but I know the image of the little notification popping up has always stuck with me. For some reason, I can't get it out of my head. It's such a perfect event. I love thinking about what it was like to be there on that day,

what it is like to be Adam to kill the rooms and the pistol and finished staff and teachers in annihilation. Still this day, one event from the shooting will be stuck in my head. Survivor recalls hearing a little boy scream. Don't kill me. And Adam replied, well, you're here. then multiply shots were heard. That raw skill shot was amazing, laughing my house off. I think I need to lay low, though.

Can't take any chances. Okay, I am adding it for AJ and I don't know what. I am explaining this. If someone reads this, don't interpret this as something real. This won't carry that much significance. And if I do something, authorities news will probably stop. It had nothing to read this. So F you guys.

I just hope I can plan this down the road. anyways i fn love the idea being that scary horrible monster standing over these powerless kids i scream for help met with blunt harsh uncaring attitude a cold bitch slap from reality to have your cries for help mock and then that ultimate horror as you feel death ripping through you i want people to hell under me begging for their lives i would not bend to your cries i would revel them before shooting nonstop i think the shooters who know what they're doing shooters the that planned the violence i must at Adam Lanza and Nicholas Cruz, Eric and Dylan Klebold, and Veleski, Roselofia, whatever his name is, Anders Berfecki, etc.

I reviewed her status. I feel obligated to follow in their path, maybe the same God. I want to kill Logan. I hate the vile effing spas, massive man-child stormweed, big liar and suck off. I hate his fake-ass personality. The kind of person who will always try to outdo your stories with some exaggerated story, I want him dead. If I ever shot at my workplace, I would want to see Logan Cowell.

in fear. I would shoot him on site aiming to kill shot, no chance for him to even react, give my luck. He would be the mother to ruin my one save, the day that one of my biggest fears is getting tackled and arrested, especially before I am able to inflict a lot of damage and deaths. I want to die in the attack. I've always, I want to die in the attack. I've always been suicidal at least since adolescence. I never could find in good explanation. I have a loving family and a good support system of people that want to see me thrive for some reason. The fact that I have pretty good life and the fact that I want to kill people I've never correlated to me. I simply did not really care about my life, only caring about my impact on other people.

I am only not taking action because I don't want to bring the pain on them. I feel horrible picture in their reactions. I could give an F about anyone else. I want people to feel the opportunity. I would take them out like Adam did his mother. Lord knows we need less of that in the effing pool of effing idiots. I have tried and failed to not be racist. I can't help it.

I have tried and acted like an open-minded person. But time and time again, I am forced to realize the stereotypes are all true. Damn, sitting next to those families of grobe-ass Mexicans, they are loud, obnoxious, and considerate. Trying to shoot was life destroying that has no gas and has almost made me lose laughing and encouraging them. The Mexicans speak are not really knowing for their intelligence. They are funny and wild animals, but they are being, blah, blah, dirty people. I hate interacting with ones that can hardly speak English, but like they are effing retarded. I also hate Arabs and Indians.

I feel like they're disgusting. N-words can be all right. Most of them not feel white. I don't know, loud, self-entitled, who was Kings as blah, as I truly admire killers for Dylan Roof, Brandon Tarrant, and Patrick Celeste, Crupcious.

I feel disappointed if white coward killers don't stand taller, planning for something much bigger, but want to die and have hard, fast attempt. All these events and stories have only fueled in fire for me to do the right thing, to take my time and plan for every outcome.

I often don't find myself aligning with these killers, specific ideologies. I think Nicholas Cruz and Patrick Crucius and Brendan Tarant are my idols. White people should rule the world and minorities should antagonism. I don't know. I think they should have rights and opportunities. I just hate them. Don't get me started on Somalis,

subhuman, crude, sad society, criminal, violent animals. I imagine also setting his apartment bombs didn't blow up, same as Eric and Dillon's bombs. Imagine how amazing the amplitude of destruction would be. I don't think I have ever heard of an attacker's bombs or some kind of second attack working. They either don't properly set that shit up or cops are able to disarm the threat before it works. So sad. Why? Or maybe they wanted. All right. So that is essentially his manifesto.

I mean, there's probably some other pages out there that we did not, you know, find or at least were able to translate. But, you know, when you read this stuff and as I was reading it, it just makes me sick. I mean, I hate even reading this, right? and almost feel wrong for reading it, but the reality of it is is that it is the news. It is what happened. And the only reason I even wanted to read this is because mainstream media will not read this. And I don't think this should ever idolize anyone.

I think if anything that this should, for people that are listening, should make you aware of not only your surroundings, but the people around you, you know, whether it's your kids, whether they are being brought up in a school or a ideology or a thought process or something,

that maybe you can recognize. Maybe you can get them help. Maybe it's not them that is going to speak out and say, look, I've got a problem. I have a mental issue. I think I need help. I idolize this or I idolize that. I think as parents, though,

I think parents need to do a better job recognizing stuff like this, right? And I know it's not always easy. I know it's not, you know, something you can just see from someone that is mentally unstable or crazy. We don't know what this guy's life was with his parents now at all. If we could be a fly on the,

wall in his house, obviously since seventh grade to where he said, you know, he wanted to change his name to Robin from Robert. Right. You know, this is an ideology or a thought process in his head that he already did not feel like he was who he was. And, you know, we've talked about this on many podcasts. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with transgender people, but I'm going to say that a lot of them have suicidal tendencies because of what's going on within themselves.

Yeah, I mean, well, you know, the suicide rate for transgender is one of the highest of any community or group of people. You know, it's a touchy topic because, you know, for example, the people that say, well, you know, gay is a sin and you're automatically going to hell and shit like that. Like people are born gay, dude. Like people are born just as gay as you were born straight. Mm-hmm. And I don't care what anybody says. I truly believe that. And like if someone came along to me and said, hey, look, you know, you have to go and be with a guy.

and because it's a sin for you to do what you're doing and you're going to go to hell if you don't do. There's no way I would ever go and be with a guy based on the way I feel and what's in me. You know what I'm saying? So even for trans people, it's kind of another layer, right? It's another layer of like not only or do they like the same sex or whatever the case is, but they also just do not feel like they are in the right body. And oftentimes this becomes a mental issue because of they're going to constantly feel like that they are battling themselves on a regular basis.

And then on top of that, you have this massive political issue, right? Which is, you know, you have the right to say, you know, trans are bad or not trans are bad necessarily, but, you know, trans is a mental issue. Right. And it's been so heavily politicized. And then on the left, you have people that are propping it up and saying,

no, everything's perfect and great. Yeah. And if you're trans, let's just take you the doctor and not tell your parents. Yes. And let's make you a girl when you're a boy. But I think there's. I mean,

they're so two extremes. Yeah, but I think there's an in-between, right? I mean, I think there is in-between. And to whereas, like, you have to understand that, and I'm not a doctor and I'm not a psychiatrist, but, you know, if you look at the group of trans people and you look at a suicide rate, there's obviously some type of mental issue there that is leading them to this. And I don't think it's just, you know, the, what the right says or what the left says.

I think it is a mental issue that they're battling with themselves on a regular basis. but that's the problem when the left and mainstream media and everybody else wants to instead of help these this community and help them figure out and figure their way through mental illnesses or things that they are going through because they feel like they are not in their own body instead of helping them through this what do they do well they idolize them they prop them up they put them on a pedestal all at the same time knowing that these a lot of these people likely need help they need some type of help we all need some type of help mentally we all do And for some people, it's worse.

I mean, for some people, they already didn't feel like they were themselves. They already didn't feel like that, you know, they were liked or cared about or whatever. And then when they start getting these thoughts in their head, as this person says, Robin, as, as he says in the manifesto, he says, you know, I would go to a therapist or I would go to my family for help. And obviously, he felt like his family loved him. He felt like his family was good people. but he also felt like that he definitely could not go to any of these people for help because as soon as he did all of his plans for his future everything that he was planning would have been disrupted yeah which meant shooting up a school or shooting up a church or shooting up something vulnerable yeah so i mean and the thing about it is too is what i will say is that there's likely going to be a lot to come out of this and i want to talk about this and i think this is the most important thing there's going to be every single group of people that are going to politicize and radicalize this entire thing, this shooting, right? I know the National Christian School shooting, you know, there was a manifesto.

There were cops to get fired for that. There was, you know, political influencers that actually got the leaked manifesto of that school shooter. And the reason why mainstream media did not want to release it whatsoever was because of the ideologies and the fact that I think her name was Hale or his name, whatever, was a trans shooter. Right. There's actually been quite a few.

trans shooters. And I'm not saying, obviously, all of school shooters have been trans because there's been a lot of white boys. But the last two have been trans. Yeah. So I actually have something on this real quick. But while you're looking it up, do you not think it's crazy that we learned so much about this Robin slash Robert

Westman more than we did Thomas Crooks and that we still don't know about Thomas Crooks? Yeah. Like we have learned everything in one day about every, all his thoughts, every ideology. everything that was going on in his head. Yeah. But still, we have no information about Thomas Crooks. Well, what we do know is like this shooting, we know that likely this shooter was identified as trans, the National Christian School shooter identified as trans, the Lakewood

Church shooter identified as trans, Colorado Spring shooter identified as non-binary, the Denver shooter identified as trans, the Aberdeen shooter identified as trans. The Iowa high school shooter was also a trans activist. So there is this radical gender ideology that, seems to be driving violence and kind of targeting innocent people, but at the same time, it's not just trans people. This is a problem in itself. And there is a problem with mental health in our country, massively.

But I said before when we see all these school shootings, it's usually white males. That's what they always talk about. It's a white male shooting up schools. Well, yes, Robert Westman is a white male, but he identifies as a woman. and now there is a trend of trans people shooting up schools. They're going to use this in every way, shape, or form. And literally, this guy made it very likely for everybody to use it. You know, the Jewish community is going to use it.

The Christian community is going to use it. The Republicans are going to use it. The Democrats are going to use it for gun control. I mean, that's an obvious. They already started to do that. And it's going to be a constant battle. But the one thing I see about this, the one thing that I noticed that was paying, painfully obvious today was the censorship of this. I mean, the censorship of people talking about

this was insane. It was insane more than I've seen a lot of shootings happen and how they reacted so fast. Now, whereas, yes, we do have the manifesto. I can't even tell you if it wasn't for X, we would likely not have any idea what this manifesto said. It would be banned from everything. You would not be able to find it. It was the people on X and people like Sherry and people like all of the people and number of people in telegram that was constantly trying to figure out what you know what was what what what did it say how are we going to take the excerpts of this and see what it says and guys you you might be thinking like well i don't even know why you guys are talking about this because in most cases they hide this information and we at least want this

information out there this information needs to be out there and as i said before it's not to absolutely in in no way shape or form glorify this this guy's a piece of shit he is evil and he is now dead. And I can't even imagine. Obviously, he doesn't believe in God or Jesus or any of that. He thinks that all just, I guess, spirituality is man-made and made up. This guy is godless. And as the children were praying, as they were being shot, and especially for the two victims that were deceased today, the two kids, as much as I hope that they immediately entered the presence of God, I hope that this asshole immediately entered the presence of hell. and Satan.

Yes. And whereas Satan obviously took over his life in this world and for whatever reason that you want to say, and I'm, you know, I'm not going to go into that. But I feel like that evil was definitely a part of his everyday life. He allowed that to happen. He opened up wounds. He opened up things that allowed Satan to penetrate and latch on. But what he doesn't understand is that that same thing that was driving him through this life

that he felt like he had to do this, this obsession, this call. in his mind, you know, I do truly feel like that the moment that he killed himself after killing those kids is the moment that he was an internal hell and actually with Satan that he thought cared about him. Yeah. But guess what? He's probably an internal damnation now. I hope he is.

I really hope and pray that he is people like this. I, if, if there, look, people debate whether there's hell or not, but what I can say is that if there is a hell, which I do believe there is, if there is an internal damnation, I hope that it is set aside specifically for people like this, you know, and some of my thoughts to this shit today was like, I had some very heinous thoughts. But do you think that he could have been mentally ill? And is that a okay for him to go to hell because he's mentally ill? I think, you know, and here's here's the weird thing. I think that, yes, there is a definition of mentally ill out there, right?

You have people that are, you know, God, I don't want to say the wrong thing here. But you have people that have actual brain problems to where they can't think clearly. Or maybe they're operating on a, you know, a seven-year-old level or highly autistic and or they don't, they don't maybe have empathy on certain areas that the other people do. But he proclaimed he had empathy and he learned it from his family. Yes. But that's what I'm saying. I you know was this just like a ruse like was he actually mentally ill or was he evil and like where's the line there right i mean you know there's a lot of people that try to use that as their

defense in court when they go and kill a bunch of people and they say well i'm mentally unstable and mentally unable to um stand trial but i think there is a huge difference in mentally actually mentally ill and evil and i don't know where the line is there i know and it's very blurred but if you read manifesto and you hear him talking like he does in the manifesto he understood what was right and what was wrong yeah but he also sounded very very crazy oh he is but what i'm saying is he understood the difference in right and wrong he understood the difference in he knew that like killing innocent kids or people in general was a wrong thing to do and he also mentioned how he was he wanted control he was egotistical um he felt like he had all of these kind of narcissists um sociopath type tendencies

the way he talked about like what some of the things he thought but he also knew what was wrong and so he made the decision to go and do what he did today he not only made the decision it wasn't a you know a crime of passion it was a planned out well-coordinated attack oh yeah or it was a evil plan And this was not something because he is mentally unstable or retarded. There were things that he also said. I saw something else. And like I said, we did not read all of the manifesto. But there was also an excerpt of the manifesto that says that, hey, for you feds out there that are thinking that you're going to find all this information in my in my logs or my computers, I am an engineer.

I think he said like a computer engineer or something. And you're likely not going to find anything because all that stuff is pretty locked down. An excerpt here, but it says to the feds, I'll keep this short because I do respect what you do for our country. To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly that I wasn't working with anyone. This was fairly trivial, some elementary social engineering, basic cad, a lot of patience. The spiral notebook, if present, has some staggering, sorry, straggling notes and to-do list that illuminate the gist of it. My tech is pretty locked down because I work in engineering, so probably not much info. there. I do apologize for any strife of traumas, but it had to be done. Frankly, these parasites

simply had it coming. A reminder, the U.S. has the number one most expensive health care system in the world, and yet we rank roughly number 42 in life expectancy. United is the indecipherable largest company in the U.S. by market cap beyond only Apple, Google, and Walmart. It has grown and grown. But has our life expectancy? No. The reality is these indecipherable, these indecifference, blah blah, have simply gotten too powerful. And they continue to abuse our country for immense profit because the American public has allowed them to get away with it. Obviously, the problem is more complex, but I do not have space.

And frankly, I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument. But many have illuminated the corruption and greed, e.g. Rothenlaw and more decades ago, and the problem simply remains. It is not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power games at play. evidently I am the first to face it was such brutal honesty. So he writes a lot of stuff about this, right? He was just pissed off of the world. He knew what was right and wrong.

He chose wrong. He chose the evil thing to do. And it's just, it's hard for me to imagine. It's hard for me to imagine like how you as a piece of shit person that obviously has issues are going to take out your grievances on kids. Oh, I agree. and during the videos, do you think that was a put on or do you think that was like literally how he acts? I have no idea.

I mean, likely he does not act like that in real life. But I think, you know, like you said, I mean, as he got closer to the time, I think that video that we listened to earlier was the night before. You know, as he was getting closer and closer to this, it was almost like some type of takeover of his mind and body. He was even seeing like tomorrow from Annie, tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow, you're only a day of. way. Yeah, absolutely. Like I said, we wanted to at least get out what this killer, what this nasty, sick person did today, what is thought processes. And I can expect that there are going to be many political factions and groups of people that are going to use any and everything they can to politicize this, to make this about their own agenda or ideology. And as I was talking about

earlier, if anything, I think that this may be used as a way to lock down social media and censor more people from what they can and cannot watch or listen to. I do fear that. You know, no good tragedy goes to waste. That's what they say. No good tragedy goes to waste. And I'm sure that this tragedy will also not go to waste. This happened for sure. And, you know, this, I don't necessarily even think there's a big conspiracy around this. I don't think that the CIA necessarily put this guy up to it or some, you know, you know, intelligence operation organization. But could he have been on a watch list?

Maybe. I mean, possibly. But even still, you know, it goes back to the fact of if what you're looking up on the internet gets to some watch list, that just completely talks about this mass surveillance. We do know after everything Edward Snowden has said in the past and how much actually the government knows about every single thing we do. And especially with AI and algorithms and how all of that. stuff is reported whether you're around your microphone on your remote for your fire for your fire tv or

your apple iphone or your maybe you have apple car play in your car there's microphones everywhere and all of that stuff is sent somewhere and it is it isn't a system in some shape form or fashion and just like we've talked about oracle and um paleteer palantir and specific to where palanterer is starting to build this system and they already have a system but the united states is going to start utilizing this to where basically everything is going to be centralized. You know, could you say that if someone wanted to make an argument? Well, Palantir found that this school shooter because we found out that he looked up this and this and this on his computer.

The reality of this, though, is that even if someone is looking up school shootings or gore or whatever, what are you going to come arrest somebody because they're looking up school shootings or gore or they're watching or maybe they watch horror movies or maybe they do watch like murders or, you know what I mean? Are you going to lock those people? Are you going to lock up the women? You do understand that people are going to go after law enforcement because he probably was on some kind of radar and why didn't they go and at least interview him? Because it's called civil liberties.

I mean, you know, he doesn't, even if they would have came and interviewed him, he didn't at that point do anything wrong. I mean, yeah, if he, if someone would have saw the manifesto with all these ideologies and stuff, but there's a line, right? I mean, you know, how much freedom are you willing to give up for safety? Right. I mean, that's the thing. because there's a way to stop all this. There's an easy way to stop this. And that is just to surveil everyone on mass scale.

And if they even think that you might have something to do with, like, maybe you look up or maybe all the women in this country that watch true crime every day, all these murders, maybe they should all be put in prison. Because maybe they're going to commit murder. But that's what I'm saying. But at what point do you draw a line? Right. You know, there's so many women that are obsessed with true crime and murder and stuff. I mean, think about all these women that send. letters to serial killers in prison.

Should they all go to prison? Should the women that watch murders and horror movies go to prison? Like, where do you draw the line? Because until they're doing something illegal, then you can't really do anything about that. We know they have watchless. Oh, for sure they do. But, you know, like this guy buying all these guns recently,

well, he didn't have a, he had no crime history or no criminal history. And he even talked about that in his manifesto. He's like, you know, I'm so sick of pretending I'm like this. second amendment right person and I want to get my conceal weapon to carry and he's like I'm not really there to do that. I'm really here to carry out the crimes that I want to carry out. But yeah, I don't know. The point to all this is like you, you know, like I said, how much freedom are you willing to give up for safety? Because at the end of day, we could all be put in prison for something if they believe, you know, if some government entity says, well, you're not allowed

to have a gun because you looked up murder yesterday or maybe you looked up. a gory movie or maybe you had, you know, you said something online that we don't agree with. This is kind of what is happening in the UK. If you even have a thought or a opinion on mass immigration in the United Kingdom and throughout

Europe, then you go to jail. But, you know, then the people that are actually committing crimes that may be immigrants of the country are being protected. And so I think that you have to err on the side of freedom more than safety in this situation. And you have to do something to secure to play.

like these churches and like these schools to make sure that, hey, look, if you have a gun, then we also have a gun. And you never know who's out there that may snap. There could be a law-abiden citizen like this guy was for many, many years. You could have a ex-military vet. You could have a freaking police officer that has served his entire life as a police officer, one of the most respected and reputable people in this community that one day gets his gun out and snaps and kills everybody.

Yeah. This happens. Yeah, it does. And it happens to where they kill their entire. entire families. But like, how do you secure soft spots like churches? You have to put,

you have to put guns in those places. You have to. You know, there's great examples. There was, for example, there was a attempted church shooting at that Texas church. That was like two or three years ago.

And guess what? They didn't last very long because the people in that congregation had guns. And as soon as that guy came in and shot like one or two times, he was down and shot and killed. That's what saves lives. guns also save lives. They don't just kill people, but they also save lives. I mean, are you going to send cops into battle or military into battle without guns because guns don't save lives?

No, you're sending them with guns because that is what saves lives. And criminals are always going to have weapons no matter what. Look at Chicago. Do you think that all these Chicago gang members are law-abiding citizens that have these legal weapons that are registered? Hell no. Most of these Chicago gang members are either stolen weapons. they're in some cases 3D printed weapons nowadays. You have the ghost guns.

You have all this shit. So you can get rid of guns from law of Biden citizens all day long. You're never going to get rid of guns in America, not at this point from the criminals, ever. That's just never going to happen. So the only answer, in my opinion of this, is that if you think there are soft spots, then there better be weapons in those soft spots to protect yourself in case someone comes into that area. And just like for this example, I mean, I understand that churches and schools and all this stuff don't necessarily want to spend money, but I remember when we had our contract security

company and we got called by a school in the South Carolina area. And I don't know if anybody ever actually took over the contract. We did not. We decided not to do it because of various reasons. But there was a school system, an entire county in the upstate of South Carolina that called us and said, hey, we want you guys, how many, how many armed guys do you have? What is the qualifications that they have, you know, so on and so forth. We want you to come and basically protect our schools and we want probably two two people per school. I mean, they were being proactive about this, right? There are going to be schools and organizations and churches that are going to look at this and reflect and do the right thing. And then there's going to be people that are not going to do

the right thing. And it may happen to them. You just never know. And it may happen to any of us at any given time. And that means being proactive with yourself, with your life, with the places you go. you have to be proactive or wherever you are. Yeah. Yeah, you definitely have to always be aware. We live in a very different world today. And I just want, we just want to come on and talk about this.

Let us know what your thoughts are. How do you think that these places should be protected? Do you think that actually doing away with guns would protect us? I don't think so. Or do you think that we need more guns in soft spots and soft targets? Because I think that's what we need. Yeah, I do too. And like I said,

I mean, I understand school resource officers do their very best job. that is one school resource officer usually per school. I mean, everybody knows that in almost all cases, unless it's maybe some huge school and somewhere else. But I think you need more officers in schools. I think that either counties or private organizations or entities need to invest more

into soft targets, whether it be schools, whether it be churches, we have to invest in security. And I think the quicker people start to realize that security is king. Yeah. And we need to put more money into that. Exactly.

The more lives are going to save. Yeah. And that's why I think he went to a Catholic church versus a public school. Yeah. Maybe. Maybe. Yeah. I mean, he probably knew, obviously, they had no resource officers, no security there.

Public schools usually at least have a resource officer. And that is good because, you know, as a shooter, you're always going to be thinking, where is that resource officer? You never know. And that resource officer likely will be the first and last line of defense against the school shooter. And like you said, it is good that hopefully they are always moving around the school. They're not stuck in one place. they're not leaving for any large amount of time.

Especially if school resource officers are leaving at a certain time and coming back at a certain time every single day, you don't want that because I think I've seen that before. But I think that you have to have some type of system worked in to where you're finally and totally going to secure your soft target. And if you are not securing your soft targets, then you are potentially at risk. It may not ever happen to you in a soft target.

But in the event it does, you know, that could be the last time it happened. So guys, that's going to be it for us. we do appreciate you listening to this pray for the families of the victims obviously that is the number one most important thing i still believe prayer works and uh it's going to be very horrific and very hard for them to get through this but we do pray for all of those families that were affected today and pray for the souls that are affected by evil as well because i think god would want you to pray for those people pray for the people that are so just completely lost and completely entranced in what they idolize and believe in or maybe that other side of

of not good but evil pray for those people as well because they need it more than probably anybody till next time we love you peace out peace out guys