Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Charlie Kirk Cover-Up? Kash Patel and FBI Clash Over Foreign Links

Episode Date: October 31, 2025

A growing power struggle is shaking Washington as Tulsi Gabbard, now leading the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, reportedly pushes for a full investigation into possible foreign involvement in the assassination of Charlie Kirk. But Kash Patel and the FBI are said to be shutting it down—raising serious questions about what’s being hidden and why. In tonight’s episode, we break down the latest leaks, internal tensions, and what this new FBI–DNI feud could mean for uncovering the truth behind Charlie Kirk’s death. Is this a fight for justice—or the beginning of another cover-up at the highest levels of government?Visit our merchandise storeOur New Song On Spotify

Welcome to Investigator's podcast. I'm your host, Chad, alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. On tonight's episode, in the wake of the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, federal officials now find themselves embroiled in a fierce internal dispute over exactly how far to go and pursue impossible foreign involvement. On one side stands Cash Patel, director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, who is reported to have blocked an inquiry led by the National Counterterrorism Center under Tulsi Gabbard and Joe Kent

into whether a foreign power played a role in Kirk's killing. The allegation, the DNI's office sought access to case files to examine a link abroad and Patel stepped in. It's a story that raises urgent questions about transparency, jurisdiction, and motive. On one hand, the FBI says it remains committed to following every lead in the killing.

On the other, critics argued that restricting the foreign involvement probe could signal something deeper, either a desire to keep roots strictly domestic or a fear of what might be revealed if the trail crosses borders. Guys, welcome to the show. It is October the 30 at 2025.

We are up in the club tonight. That's what it sounds like, actually, with the song. I'm going underground by Flux Vortex. And I am actually surprised we're already doing another Charlie Kirk episode. And I hope that you guys are following along with this because I think this is one of the most important investigations in the history of the United States of America. You know, it's, I think for a lot of people in this day and age, it shook a lot of people very similarly to probably the JFK assassination.

You know, when Walter Cronkite came on air and announced the death of John F. Kennedy, the president of the United States, it just shook people. And this was before that we had social media. This was before we had instant access. And literally being able to see Charlie Kirk assassinated right in front of our eyes, I'll never forget that day. And I'll never forget, actually, someone's sending the clip to me. And I watched it.

expecting what I was about to see. And I'm used to like gory stuff and you name it. But I saw and especially the fact that I had followed Charlie Kirk for so long. I respected his work. I felt like he was doing a lot of good for our youth in in America today. It hit me hard. I mean, and I remember we did a podcast like three hours after the assassination. And it was hard to keep it together that entire episode. And so. Super sad. And just to see it like, you said on national TV. Yeah. Or all over the internet, all over X, just watching somebody being assassinated in front of your

face is really hard to watch. Yeah, especially someone you almost feel like you know, right? I mean, we didn't know Charlie Kirk, but, you know, we actually knew people that knew Charlie Kirk and have been around Charlie Kirk. But, you know, I think there were so many that felt like they knew Charlie because of how open he was, because he was on college campuses. And he had a weekly podcast or show. And he was on everybody else's show as well.

And it's just a relationship you kind of start to build with people. The more you listen to them, the more you think you feel like you know them. And so if something happens to them, you care about it, right? You care deeply about number one, you know, is the investigation going to be fair? Is it going to be just? And are they going to get the perpetrator? And there's some people out there right now, actually a lot more than you probably think that don't believe that Tyler Robinson is even the shooter. Right.

And there is starting to be more people that are showing some. Not necessarily, I wouldn't say proof or receipt, but the fact that maybe Tyler Robinson never even stepped campus or stepped on campus at UVU that day. Yeah, a lot of people are saying, how can you be in two places at once? Yeah. It's almost impossible. Yeah. Well, it is impossible. And then you have these mass influencers out there, right?

And these influencers, they all call themselves conservatives or Republicans. And one side is calling the other side woke Republicans or the woke right. and it's interesting how the people that are calling the people that are literally just asking questions and, you know, maybe bringing up some conspiracy theories or even just, you know, some things that are not adding up. Those people that are calling the other side, they would probably call us or Candice Owens or whoever else is asking questions. They call us the woke right. And what they call for, by the way, is to shut them the hell up. Actually, Josh Hammer, which we're going to get to in just a little bit.

We all know old Josh Hammer at Turning Point USA. Well, he along with, I think it was the Daily Mail. It could have been the Daily Mail. I got the article actually pulled up. I'll get to that in a minute. But he went on there, I guess, with the Daily Mail. And they did an article specifically targeting Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes. And this was specifically after the Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes interview that just dropped

to four or five days ago. But what they're all doing, what these people on the typical right, right, the same people, by the way, that are, you know, lockstep and anything the administration says, right? Maybe three years ago when they were like, release the Epstein files. We must have the Epstein files now. Why is the government hiding the Epstein files from the American people? What are you covering up? Oh, are you covering for pedophiles? Are you covering for these people?

Now, as soon as the Trump administration came out, they said, oh, there's nothing to see here. Anyone that then questioned further past that, you can tell who all the paid influencers are. Because those are the ones that will go out and attack anyone that is asking the same questions that they ask prior to the administration, the Trump administration in particular, that took a different stance to where they said it's a hoax.

There's nothing to see here. So I just want to finish. But they're the ones that are calling us and people that are asking questions, including still about the Charlie Kirk assassination, the woke right. but they're the ones that are also calling for all of us to be canceled and silenced and shut up. Just like Josh Hammer with the Daily Mail literally called for Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson, however you want to take the article, we'll read it in just a bit, to be neutralized. Now, when a lot of people think of neutralized, you think of being killed.

Right. But then of course he came out and said, that's not what I was meaning by the term neutralized. But, you know, of course, Kansas Owens. And a lot of people kind of ran with this and said, he's literally calling for us to be killed, it sounds like. But would you call someone more. woke if they were trying to cancel the other side because that's what the woke left has always done is they wanted nothing more than for their voices to be raised up and anyone that contested what they believed or thought they wanted them canceled and silenced yeah and these people on

the right i guess you want to just call them the right they want people to be quiet and they want them to be silenced now and it's just so weird how this whole thing is played out and it's really been since the epstein files in my opinion you know when cash betel kind of changed his tune and said, oh, yeah, there's nothing to see when that's the whole thing he basically campaigned on. Yeah. And then now we saw the Charlie Kirk thing and we see more and more divide on the Republican side. And it makes me wonder, is there something more beyond just this divide? Did they do this on purpose?

Or I don't know what they are. But are they dividing the Republican Party on purpose to make it less powerful? Could this all be a sciop? Could all this be something more than what we're. are seeing in front of our eyes. Well, I mean, and I've thought about that. Do I think this is a sci-op? No. Do I think this is some kind of elaborate plan from the left to divide the Republican party? I don't think so. And the reason I'll say that I don't think so is because I think that the administration and their handling of all of these things are their own doing. I mean, this is

literally their own doing. Now, if the way that maybe you could go into that is to say that maybe the deep states doing this to divide the Republican Party. Well, somebody's got a hold of like Cash Patel and others. Oh, had to. Yeah, they had to have. And, you know, number one, they may just be withholding anything that Cash Patel would like to see about, you know, the Epstein files and so on and so forth. But even if that was the case, you would think that the Trump administration and especially

Cash Patel, Dan Bongino, and Trump himself would come out and say, look, we do think the Epstein files exist, obviously, but we know the Epstein files exist. because we've had witnesses, we've had, you know, the Gislane Maxwell trial, we've had even some of the witnesses turn up dead. And we also know the house was completely wired. We know all this stuff. He could at least come out and say, look, we do believe in the Epstein files, right? We do think that existed or whatever.

We just don't know where they're at. We don't have access to them. But instead of doing that, they said it was all a hoax by the Democrats. This was all something that they wanted to use to try to divide the Republican Party. and it just sounded so bad shit crazy. And so now Cash Mattel, just like he did with Epstein files, he's now stepping in with the Charlie Kirk assassination because Tulsi Gabbard and Joe Kent, which is the director of National Counterterrorism, D&I, National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, they want to look

into whether there was foreign involvement and if the FBI or the government has any information on that. So what they wanted was they wanted to start pulling files and see what they actually had. And this doesn't just mean necessarily Israel, if you guys are thinking Israel or some other foreign involvement. This could also potentially mean, you know, George Soros, NGOs, potentially funding Antifa. There's a lot of ways that you could take this. But in specific, you know, especially with some of the speculation and conspiracy around, you know, the fact that Charlie Kirk was kind of disavow in Israel with 48 hours and leading up to, not just 48 hours, but six months, eight months before he was assassinated, you know, it would be

something that would be very good for this administration to allow to happen, to investigate, and come out in full transparency and say, this is what we found. And the person that I would put over that would absolutely be Tulsi Gabbard. Because I think, in my opinion, Tulsi Gabbard is one of the least compromised people in the administration as of right now. And yes, she did. used to be a Democrat. She then, I think she's more kind of in the middle than Republican, but she was a,

you know, she's a veteran. But it's interesting because it's over the past two or three weeks. And then especially now when we're hearing that maybe there was a shouting match between Cash Mattel, Tulsi Gabbard, or Joe Kent, you know, over the past two or three weeks, we have heard,

and I've started to see online where there's kind of this movement that wants to get rid of Tulsi now. They're saying that Tulsi is a rhino. Tulsi is all of this. and she just wants to destroy the Trump administration from within. We're starting to see this. And who are we starting to see this from? The same political influencers that are going out there and they are likely getting paid by whatever

packs and they're making money to make sure that the narrative stays alive for whatever they want to use it for, I guess. Well, it just seems like to me, anybody that's in the Republican Party that is going against the narrative that the Republican Party wants us to follow. if you are not right on their line and that you want to question things that don't sound right to you, they're going against them. Yeah. It's just like Ron Paul, for example, Marjorie Taylor Green.

Thomas Massey. Thomas Massey is another one. There's a bunch of people that are not staying in the grain, but they're outside the grain, but because they're calling for answers and say, look, let's look at this thing. They're like, oh, no, these are the worst Republican. No, you're absolutely right. I mean, if you go against the narrative, if you step up. out of line, then you are going to be, well, as Trump has said many times, if you don't kind of fall in line

with the MAGA movement and what we are, what, you know, kind of what our agenda is, what our narrative is, whatever. And this is the same thing with any administration in reality, then you're going to be taken out of office. We're going to make sure that we go with whoever is against you in your district. So it's a tough thing for people right now. And it's a tough thing for people that want to speak out because they could be primaried, the Trump administration is going to go out and they're going to find whoever is running against you

and they're going to try to prop those people up. So with this, though, this is no different. Cash Patel, he shut down the Charlie Kirk foreign intelligence probe and explosive feud with Trump's counterterror chief, according to the Daily Mail. And this goes on to say FBI director Cash Patel crushed efforts by Tulsi Gabbard's closest advisor to see if a foreign power was involved in Charlie Kirk's assassination. The head of the National Counterterrorism Center, Joe Kent, analyzed FBI files to determine whether Kirk's alleged killer received assistance from a foreign power. Kent's investigation alarmed Patel, who believed the counterterror chief was overstepping

by interfering with an ongoing FBI investigation, according to the New York Times. Kirk was shot in the throat by a high-powered sniper rifle while speaking to college students at Utah Valley University on September 10th, Tyler Robinson 22 was charged with the murder and now faces the death penalty if found guilty. Now, the Times spoke with supporters of Kent who claim he was doing his job by chasing down any leads to ensure no foreign groups were involved in Kirk's death. After Patel discovered, Kent had gone through FBI case material related to the Kirk killing, a tense White House meeting was held to discuss the matter. A roundtable meeting between

Patel, Kent Gabbard, Vice President J.D. Vance, White House Chief of Staff, Susie Wiles, and senior DOJ officials were held at the White House. Kent told administration officials that he granted access to FBI files by a low-ranking agency. official. He was granted to files. The White House meeting was so tense that little was accomplished according to the times. Trump administration officials were worried that Kent's probe into foreign interference could provide ammunition to Robinson's defense lawyers, who could then argue more than one suspect was involved in Kirk's murder.

So that's very, and I want to, I just want to stop here for a second, because that's very, very telling. What you're saying is, is that if you look into this and you find what we, you find what we think that you're going to find, which would be evidence that there was foreign power involved in the Charlie Kirk assassination, you were then going to give Tyler Robinson's defense a case to where he could literally be found not guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Because, hey, if you release files that say Israel or Egypt or whoever was actually the ones behind the Charlie Kirk assassination, then obviously that's going to help the Tyler

Robinson freaking defense as it should right now that doesn't mean that Tyler Robinson still couldn't be the trigger man oh there's a lot of people that do not believe that just like that a lot of people don't believe including us that a 30 a 6 was used to kill Charlie Kirk it none of it makes sense and you know in the very initial stages of the investigation the FBI along with the DOJ came out and showed the rifle they showed a picture of it then they said it was taken apart then it was put back together it was for sure Tyler Robinson though, there were so many weird things about it. And then you also had, like we've said in the last episode, you had these people in the

crowd that were trying to divert attention away from whoever shot Charlie Kirk to where law enforcement would swarm these people to where the shooter or shooters could get away. Now, the article goes on to say the FBI and DOJ have traditionally tightly regulated evidence in active criminal investigations and prosecutions. But under the direction of Kent, the counterterrorism center collected material from other intelligence agencies regarding potential foreign ties to Robinson, as well as he evaluated any potential foreign funding from individuals associated with left-wing groups such as Antifa. But there have been long-standing issues regarding jurisdiction between Gabbard's office and the FBI.

And it is not clear if the FBI or the Counterterrorism Center is still investigating whether a foreign power assisted in the murder of Charlie Kirk. But the Daily Mail reached out to Kent and the FBI for comment. And the FBI says the FBI and intelligence community under the direction of President Trump will leave no stone unturned in the investigation of the assassination of our friend Charlie Kirk, said Patel and Gabbard in a joint statement to the Times. Kent was confirmed to lead the Counterterrorism Center back in July, where he has since focused on disrupting narco-terrorist cells and cartels. And so before joining Trump administration, Kent unsuccessfully ran for Congress

in 2022 and 24 in Washington auctioned himself as a MAGA loyalist. Now, the interesting thing about this is is that Fox News has this article a little different, obviously, because this is Fox News. And the reason why I say is Fox News is because the Trump administration is in power now. They are in office, so Fox News can't just necessarily go out there and say whatever the hell they want to say. And so their leading title for this article says FBI source pushes back on a report of internal Rift over Charlie Kirk case files. And let's just let me let you hear how this is worded differently. And it says a high-ranking source is downplayed recent reporting about internal tensions between FBI and National Counterterrorism Center over files connected to the assassination of Turnpoint USA founder Charlie Kirk. And it says the NCTC is part of the Office of Director of National Intelligence.

Its director, Joe Kent, was recently looking into the assassination case reportedly ruffling feathers among FBI leadership, including Director Cash Patel, who thought he was overstepping his duties and potentially interfering with a case against 22-year-old. suspected assassin Tyler Robinson. But the source told Fox News Digital that tensions in the report were exaggerated and that there was no serious dispute between the agencies or the leaders. The FBI and ODNI said in a joint statement they were not only working together, but also with federal lawmakers on a united front. And it says, as Kent was reportedly looking to ties to terror groups, including Antifa. So that's all it says, right?

So it wants to make sure that it's like, look, terror groups or Antifa. That's all you have to know about that. definitely not looking anything else. And, you know, this is not necessarily the case because what I will say is like, I know, for example, D&I, Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, you know, she definitely for sure has been critical of, you know, Israel's involvement in APAC and all that stuff with the U.S. government. Obviously, Marjorie Taylor Green has as well. She's oftentimes said the exact same things.

And so if I had to guess, and especially with all the conspiracies, and you got to remember, you know, Tulsi Gabbard has been on the podcast circuit. She's been on that podcast circuit for two or three years. She has dove into a lot of the same conspiracies and stuff that we talk about on this show. So I can only imagine that if you are the director of national intelligence, you're seeing all of this stuff out there. Would you not want to be the one that goes and says, hey, Joe Ken or whoever, go look into this. Let's see if there is anything on foreign involvement, whether it's Israel, Egypt, you know, Open Society Foundation. George Soros, look at it all so we know, right?

Because that's what the government officials should do, especially if you are an investigating agency or an intelligence agency or a federal law enforcement agency, your job should be, as they say in the joint statement, not leaving any stone unturned. And I do find it interesting how they both came out in a joint statement that said the same thing, but it's almost like when you hear that, I hear it in my head. like cash betel's like yeah we're definitely going to uh you know make sure there's no stone unturned and then it's like i hear also in my head where tulsie gabber's like yeah there will definitely be no stolen unturned you know what i mean yeah it's like you see two parts of the joint statement

now a very interesting tidbit also about cash betel is that he promoted every agent that was involved in operation arctic frost and fired the director of the fbi's utah field office to weeks before the Charlie Kirk assassination. That's what we're hearing. Now, I'll explain in just a moment what Operation Arctic Frost was, and it'll probably surprise you the fact that he promoted these people instead of firing them. But here's Ryan Mata, and he released this video today. Listen.

FBI director Cash Patel promoted all of these people in Arctic Frost, but yet he fired the person in Utah weeks before the Charlie Kirk assassination. So you know what's funny is I just recorded a video. on Operation Arctic Frost. And it wasn't until the Hodge twins tweeted this out and they said, hey, FBI Director Cash, why are you letting criminals work at the FBI? And then I looked down, it says,

Aaron Trapp, head of San Antonio, John Rothrock, head of FBI Dallas, James Barnacle, head of FBI Charlotte. And then he goes on to Devin Kowalski, head of FBI Puerto Rico, child trafficking hub. Wayne Jacobs, head of Philadelphia, absolutely. fucking cesspool. So then I started

thinking to myself, wait, wait, didn't cash just fucking dunk some chick over at Utah? So you mean to tell me the agents that were running Operation Arctic Frost, head, head, head, head, head, head, head, head, head, head, head,

head, head, head. But yet you can the head of Utah. Some chick who is a military vet served this country because she was allegedly a DEI, and yet all of these ass clowns that were literally committing treason, they were subverting our government. They knew that they rigged the election, and then they were going out and trying to target anybody who spoke out or questioned it. And cash just

promoted all of them. But yet the chick who is going to be responsible for overseeing the Charlie Kirk assassination, she magically got shit can and replaced. Make that one make sense, folks. Okay, so to elaborate on what Operation Arctic Frost was is the code name for the investigation by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the United States Department of Justice launched in April of 2022 focused on alleged efforts to influence or overturn the 2020 U.S. presidential election outcome. And so the operation included investigation of so-called fake elector schemes, alternate

states of electors, efforts to pressure state officials, and broader involvement of public and private sector actors tied to the 2020 election dispute. And according to recently released documents and whistleblower disclosures via Senate oversight, the investigation expanded from an initial focus on select individuals to a much broader sweep of conservative and Republican-aligned organizations, groups, or people. So the FBI, under his political law or election interference tracks is a lead agency. The FBI was the main lead on this. The DOJ, particularly via special counsel or politically sensitive oversight channels,

were the secondary in charge of this investigation to where anyone that questioned the 2020 election that thought maybe it was stolen or rigged, these people, the FBI, and the people that he just talked about who Cash Mattel promoted, I think is five or six guys that now they are over their agencies in various cities in America. Cash Patel promoted all these guys, and these were the five or six guys that were the lead investigators into this. Keeping in mind. That's crazy.

And then you have the Senate oversight of figures in Congress, for example, Chuck Grassley, Senate Judiciary, Committee Chair, Ron Johnson. He was the permanent subcommittee on investigations. They have released documents pertaining to Operation Arctic Frost. And then there were individual targets or subjects in the investigation, notably the government issued cell phones of Donald Trump and Mike Pence, were reportedly seized or obtained by the FBI under this investigation. And from what we understand, you know, I don't know if you guys remember when they raided Trump's

house and they did all this stuff. Well, there was a lot of things that were taken from Trump's residences during all of this that they kind of, you know, that was the classified documents case is what they called it. But there was a lot of things that they picked up in those raids that they used for this Operation Arctic Frost. Okay. So stay with me here. Because I don't know if you guys remember the Venezuela episode that we did where when we talked about China and Russia and where we were just trying to figure out like, why would the United States want to actually go into Venezuela?

Because I don't necessarily believe us about, you know, narco drug cartels and all this stuff. We do know that China and Russia has involvement in Venezuela. But the very interesting thing is that the deep state in particular, and I also think obviously the globalists like George Soros and the Open Society Foundation and others, they have a pretty big stronghold. hold in Venezuela in terms of this is actually where the voting systems during the 2020 elections seem to have come from was Venezuela, which is just also very interesting. But you also have to remember, keep this in mind as we go through, Cash Mattel fired two weeks prior to the Charlie Kirk assassination, the director of the Utah field office of the FBI and promoted, and this was actually he promoted these guys before, I believe he fired

Two weeks before he said, yeah. No, the two weeks before was he fired the girl in Utah. I don't know exactly when he promoted the Operation Arctic Frost FBI leaders. It doesn't really matter, but he fired the girl because he said his DEI. I mean, or is that just a coincidence? Was she really DEI and she's over the Utah field office to FBI? Was she maybe too close to maybe what was coming two weeks later? I mean, I know that's a conspiracy theory, but and then conservative organizations,

and Republican political entities, for example, the documentation shows involved. involvement of groups such as Turnin Point USA and other GOP aligned organizations. So they were also these same guys, keep in mind, these five guys that were the ring leaders of Operation Arctic Frost have now been promoted. And one of the main organizations that Operation Arctic Frost was investigating and seized information from was Turnipoint USA. Isn't that interesting? I spell something stinky.

And by the way, Ryan Mata, nobody has mentioned this yet. Like, nobody on the internet has talked about how their investigation in the turning point USA was very deep during Operation Arctic Frost. They potentially, you know, I don't know if, like, if you remember where the FBI and, I guess the Clintons and the deep state was essentially spying on the Trump campaign and, you know, they were looking through emails and they were tapping phones and you name it. They were doing all this illegal shit. I can almost guarantee you that Operation Arctic Frost was doing the exact same thing to

turning point USA. But why? Why were they? Right? And who were they doing it for? Because the one thing I can say, and there's a lot of people and look, there's a lot of law enforcement to listen to our podcast. But even law enforcement guys know that like just, yes, most law enforcement is good.

And we support law enforcement, you know, kind of in a blanket way. Like we know that law enforcement has. to exist. Law and order has to exist. All of that stuff happens. There's absolutely bad apples. The problem is, like with the FBI and these federal agencies, is that when there are leaders put in place for political reasons or geopolitical reasons or foreign or even potentially foreign influence reasons, that's where it becomes a problem. Are there good agents in the FBI? Absolutely. Do they have any power whatsoever with how investigations go or don't go? know because if there are actually good FBI agents that would actually do the right thing,

say there is a cover up in this Charlie Kirk assassination, right? Just say there is. And say that there was actually good FBI agents that had the opportunity to be promoted that would actually go after these leads that might really shake up like reality for a lot of people. Well, number one, they would never be able to hold those positions because they would be fired just like likely the girl in Utah was fired for it. but the dirty ones, the pieces of shit in most cases, are the ones that are promoted.

And this is especially what happens in federal agencies. I don't understand why Cash is doing it. But right now the way I feel about Cash Patel, and I hate to say this, but the way I feel about him is I feel like that it almost feels like that if you ever been in New York City or some big city and, you know, maybe this was like 20 years ago and someone, maybe it's the first time you ever been in New York City. And there's a panhandler that comes up to you. And he shows you this Rolex watch for like, I don't know, a thousand bucks.

And you're like, damn, that's a hell of a deal. Like, I got to buy this, right? He's like a panhandler. He had been a panhandler, I think, for a couple of years leading up to his nomination as FBI director. And I don't think it was accidental. I don't think it was coincidental that he was actually nominated and then put in place as the FBI director. I don't think it was coincidental that for two years and especially the year previous to the 24 election that he was on every podcast talking about all the amazing things he was going to do.

So you think he was just playing everyone for two years prior to him becoming FBI director. Yeah. I think it was all a plan. If he was playing everyone, including us, was he playing Trump or is Trump in on it? That's a great question. And I don't know, right? Let me give you a good example, actually, of this too. Do you remember when, so Elon Musk bought X, right?

and this was a $43 billion deal. And this is when that a lot of people were starting to feel like they were actually seeing the truth. They were like, oh, we got a free speech platform now. We're starting to see all the truth here. Right. For once, we're starting to see the truth. But as time has went on, you start to see these influencers that thinking back on it,

especially about Cash Patel, for example, I remember when it was, no one really knew at the time who was going to be the FBI director. But I did I do remember that there was this mass push on X in particular for Cash Patel. Yes. Of course we were because we were watching podcast of them. We were also seeing

influence on social media about the mass movement of everybody that said nobody but cash I think was a hashtag. Now going back to this, some of these people that were leading the charge of this hashtag, these people had millions and millions.

of followers. And these people were people like cat turd, where people like, I mean, there was a lot of these Republican influencers that were pushing this hashtag with their millions of followers to create this kind of push for Cash Patel to be put in place. But then also, like if I look at those same people today and I know how freaking completely full of shit they are in so many ways to where they are the narrative keepers, they are the ones that they get paid what to say and they cannot step out of line and if they do they're no longer going to get paid well those are the same people that most people thought why cash

betel was put into place as the fbi director or was that just a cover because they already knew he was going to be the fbi director they wanted to make it look like that the people wanted to cash mottel as the fbi director see look at social media guys look at all these people look at the hashtags trending but it was all really just a i think it was an influencer operation. And I think it was an operation on behest of probably the deep state, actually. I don't think it was Trump. I don't think it did it. I think the deep state knew the likelihood of Trump winning and or they wanted Trump to win by a landslide for whatever reason. Maybe they felt like, hey, I think that we might be able to control this guy more than we think we can and we can do

it in all of these different ways. I just, I personally don't, I feel like there are a lot of people that are placed and were put into place for a reason, not necessarily by Trump. And I also still believe that Matt Gates was taken out of the Attorney General spot for a reason. I do too, because he was gone quicker than he could say hello. When they did the first day of interrogations, they went crazy on him and he said, it's best for me to step back now. He didn't even try to go through it because everyone went through it. But I guess because they had stuff on him that he was supposed to.

dating this younger girl or whatever, and it just didn't look good. But, yeah, I don't think they really wanted him in there. And then they placed in Pam Bondi. And I know that you don't like her. And I think that she's kind of on the same page as Cash Patel. And what's crazy about Cash Patel is when he was on all these podcasts, he's like, I know about the Epstein files.

I have seen some of them. I have read some of them. And for him to come back and blatantly lie to us and say, no, there is no files we haven't seen anything the only files are is about child porn like pam bondie was saying that's a good point you make there's nothing to see here yeah that's a great point you make actually with that because you know there's something i never mentioned when he got when he when he used to go on podcast i i've always forget to mention like he did actually used to say like i've seen some of these files like and and day one we're going to expose this i never say that so i'm glad you said that

absolutely and that's a big problem because if you want to know if he's lying or not? Well, which time was he lying? Was he lying back when he was on podcast over and over and over again by saying that he's seen some of these files. He's talked to people inside of these different agencies that have seen the files and further files and all this stuff. Like, was he lying then or is he lying now?

And I think most people believe he's lying now. Now, we don't necessarily know whoever took over Cash Patel's soul because obviously someone did. I think it's the devil. But I think beyond that, like who are the physical handlers of Cash Tell Seoul. Someone has taken over. And just real quick, bringing up Dan Bongino, did he know how Cash was?

Would he have joined the FBI and then the deputy if he would have known what he knows now? Because I feel like there's a lot of friction between Cash and Dan as well. Yeah. Well, I mean, I don't know if you remember like seven months ago when there was the word that Dan Bongino was about to quit and walk out. Right. And this was from internal sources. They were saying, look, Dan Bond Union is about to quit and walk out.

I remember that someone had said back in the day, even when Dan was doing his show, that like if he woke up and saw a bad comment or like a bad email or someone questioned his integrity even on his show, that he, it really bothered him throughout the day. And so I can't even imagine like right now what this stuff is doing to him because, I mean, there are people that are tagging him. there are people that are sharing his old post there there are people that are doing a lot of this and it's like he's just lockstep he doesn't really say anything about his personal feelings anymore the unfortunate part is that regardless i think a lot of people are starting to realize that dan bonjino is now also compromised and like what is being the deputy director of the fbi worth like what is it really worth because are you ever going to be able to

if you leave or are fired from that position are you able to go back to your show and get people to trust you ever again. Yeah, I bet he wishes he never even accepted that position now. I don't know. He probably does because, you know, if you're the deputy director of the FBI, that's like on your resume. You're going to be able to kind of do basically whatever for the rest of your life. You're kind of protected for the rest of your life. But you're not being protected from your own integrity.

I know. I get it. But, you know, it's something that he's going to have to wrestle with. I would venture to say, depending on how this stuff keeps going, whether or not or how long Dan Bongino will actually be able to stay as the deputy director of the FBI. And I also will say that I don't think Tulsi Gabbard will last very long either. And especially if she keeps ruffling feathers, kind of digging, getting Joe Kent to dig on some things. You know, it's almost kind of like a movie.

It literally is. This whole thing is unfolding like a movie. But I wonder how close Tulsi is with Trump. And does he trust her or is he just going to kick her out? Like he kicks everybody else that goes against him. I think he will kick her out faster than anybody because she will be the outlier. She will be the outlier that is not, you know, standing in line and, and, and kissing the hand, you know, and whatever, you know, she's not going to be that.

And maybe she does. Maybe she goes forward and that's what has to happen if she wants to keep that position. But it's just, you know, and also there's probably going to be, you know, when you're in this kind of environment, right, you would think that if you got FBI director and Pam Bondi and in all these big time officials now and Trump himself and and Stephen Miller and you kind of everybody and then you're the outlier right and so then there's going to be starting you know there's going to be pressure that is going to start being put on you this is going to be like hey you're either going to stay you know stay in line we better not start hearing this shit about you reaching out

or you getting someone to reach out to Alex Jones which are going to play a clip from that in just a moment but there has been people reaching out to Alex Jones in the administration saying exactly what happened and how bad it really was and like what is to come and we're going to play that in just a second. So then also I want to play another quick clip because the Heritage Foundation. Now the Heritage Foundation is kind of like a turning point USA, but the Heritage Foundation is I guess they have some think tanks. They are a foundational organization to where they help conservatives win in different places throughout the nation. They also have supported Trump and all of Trump's appointees and, you know, Republican senators and congresspeople.

Just think of Heritage Foundation as very similar to Turning Point USA. And so a lot of people have started to say, especially after the Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson interview, that the Heritage Foundation is distancing themselves from Tucker Carlson. This has been all over the internet. We have seen that comment from those same people that I'm talking about, those Republican influencers that are all saying almost exactly the same thing. After the Tucker and Nick Fuentes interview,

the Heritage Foundation is distancing themselves from Tucker Carlson, right? And so this was a big thing. And everybody was like, see, Tucker is about to lose everything. Tucker's about to be canceled. He's done. And it's all because they're asking the questions that you're forbidden to ask.

Right. They don't want you to talk about this. They don't want you to talk about anything that is against kind of the, or I guess what they Foreign nations. Yeah, foreign nations or they don't want you to ever talk about something that they consider taboo is what I'm trying to say. But here is what the founder, Kevin Roberts, of the Heritage Foundation, came out and said in a video today, and I got to say, I respect this response and especially the pressure and all of these, you know, political pundits and these influencers that were. creating this narrative that Tucker Carlson is going to be left high and dry by the Heritage Foundation, and they're no longer going to support Tucker Carlson. But they came out today with the video in

response to that. Listen, I'll have more to say on this in the coming days, but today I want to be clear about one thing. Christians can critique the state of Israel without being anti-Semitic. And of course, anti-Semitism should be condemned. My loyalty as a Christian and as an American is to Christ first and to America always. When it serves the interest of the United States to cooperate with Israel and other allies, we should do so with partnerships on security, intelligence, and technology. But when it doesn't, conservatives should feel no obligation to reflexively support any foreign government, no matter how loud the pressure becomes from the globalist class or from their mouthpieces in Washington. The Heritage Foundation didn't become the intellectual backbone of the conservative movement

by canceling our own people or policing the consciences of Christians. And we won't start doing that now. We don't take direction from comments on X, though we are grateful for the robust free speech debate. We also don't take direction from members or donors, though we are inherently grateful for their support. And we're adding more every day. This is the robust debate we invite with our colleagues,

our movement friends, our members, and the American public. We will always defend truth. We will always defend America, and we will always defend our friends against the slander of bad actors who serves someone else's agenda. That includes Tucker Carlson, who remains, and as I have said before, always will be a close friend of the Heritage Foundation. The venomous coalition attacking him or sowing division. Their attempt to cancel him will fail. Most importantly, the American people expect us to be focusing on our political adversaries on the left, not attacking our friends on the right. I disagree with, and even abhor things that Nick Fuentes says. But canceling him is not the answer either. When we disagree with the person's thoughts and opinions, we challenge those ideas and debate.

And we have seen success in this approach as we continue to dismantle the vile ideas of the left. As my friend, Vice President Vance said last night, what I am not okay with is any country coming before the interest of American citizens. And it is important for all of us, assuming we are American citizens, to put the interest of our own country first. That's where our allegiance lies. And that's where it will stay. I could not have said it better, Kevin Roberts. And that literally makes me want to donate to the Heritage Foundation just for that message. I mean, because this is something that is taboo, though, to say.

You know, and he said it as best as you possibly can. You know, you should be able to critique foreign nations especially. I mean, if we can critique our own nation, but we can't critique other nations and especially one in particular, that's troubling. That's weird. That's strange. And I was, you know, I was, this is, I'm not getting into the, you know, the Israel thing, but I was on the phone last night with a close friend of ours.

and we were talking a little bit about that. And I said, you know, I said, I think the problem is that I think, number one, if you want to go biblically, like a lot of people just don't understand the Bible in certain aspects when it comes to Israel. But also I also think that because of the Israel thing that's going on and has been going on, a lot of people are kind of, you know, woken up to it. I think it's also keeping a lot of people away from Christianity in some ways or just or, or, or building their hate for for Israel or or even Jews in some cases. I mean, you know, the anti-Semitism thing is getting worse because of the protections or the. And it's on both sides. Of speech of it even, right?

Like, you're not allowed to say this. And whenever you tell, like, if you tell a kid, you're not allowed to do something, guess what he's going to do? He's going to go do it. Right. And so by being so hardcore about it, I think you're just making the problem worse. And are there real anti-Semitics out there? absolutely. Are there people out there that do not have, you know, beliefs or those, the hatred towards Jews that also, you know, feel like they can critique Israel?

Absolutely. So I just wanted to make that clear. And I also wanted to play another video. And this is Marjorie Taylor Green. Although, listen, I will be honest with you. I do not understand why Marjorie Taylor Green is literally going on the view again. And I think this is the second time. Oh, my gosh.

She's going on the view. Well, she's trying to hit that population, I guess. I know, but I don't quite understand it because it just, it kind of hurts a little bit of the things that she says. And especially when you go sit with these crazy ladies that they've been nothing but psycho and crazy for years. And all they have done is just talk stupid, crazy shit and lie on an everyday basis. I don't understand why she's doing that. But she does make a good point here when she says that. influencers now are the new mainstream media.

We've been saying this for months. And when I say that, like, you can't believe what you hear on mainstream media, you also have to be very, very careful about what you listen to and who you follow in social media. Listen. I can the first Trump administration, we found out about fake news, right? Yeah, we fake news CNN. Bye. All that stuff.

And then we went through the Biden administration and it was like, oh my God, the whole censorship regime of canceling people for being against COVID-vaxes and mask mandates and lockdowns and on and on. But now we're moving into something and I think you're at the tip of the spear, you and quite a few others, you guys have come up against something that is now being revealed and that's the paid propaganda social media influencers. It's so gross. Which I think is bigger and more dangerous potentially.

So that's bigger and more dangerous than like fake news CNN. ever was because they're everywhere. They're everywhere. And then what they do, what's dangerous about it is they have all their propaganda talking points. And it's like a, it's like a hive mind. It's like it's like thousands of little bees and they're all saying the same thing. So they're convincing the masses that they have to agree and believe this. Yes. I agree with that. And, you know, it's funny because there's been people that we've even been close to throughout this podcast, you know, and more than one, I guess I can say that I think that I feel like maybe they're being funded now, you know, I truly believe that without a doubt. And I could be wrong.

I could be wrong, but I don't think I am. I don't think I am because if you look at how they're doing things now, and I'm not necessarily saying one particular person, there's a couple. But if you look at how some of these people are doing things now and then you go to some of the other people that I have called out and talked about on this show, like they're, they're messaging, their responses to other people's posts, their, uh, tweets or they're, they're all the same. They're all very similar. Well, do you remember like what she was saying during like the COVID thing for,

for example? You could have 50 people that were news anchors and put them side by side and exactly the same words came out of everyone's mouth. Yep. I don't know if you remember that. Yeah, absolutely. No, I mean. And it's kind of the same thing with the paid influencers now.

And like she said, it could be way more damaging because people almost trust influencers now more than media. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, look, I can promise you this. We're not getting paid or influenced by anybody. And I don't think we ever would be. And I say I don't think. But, I mean, you know, if someone wanted to come and pay us something that I truly believe, right, and say, look, you know, this is what we got to do. and, you know, I would only do it if I truly believed that vision.

Well, Gavin Newsom is paying us on our commercials, I heard. Yeah. Yeah, we have heard. Yeah, there's Gavin Newsom commercials on our show, guys. We cannot help that. We have enabled political advertisements, but for you guys, hopefully you do not listen to that garbage. He's just wasting his money on our podcast. But yeah, there's been people's like, hey, by the way, guys, you got Gavin Newsome commercials on your podcast now.

And I was like, even during the COVID thing, when the vaccine, rolled out? Yeah. We had vaccine commercials on our podcast where we were talking shit and about the vaccine. We were like, hey, guys, the vaccine is deadly. And it's like, and then five minutes later, it's like, try the Pfizer vaccine, safe and effective, you know? And it's like, damn, who is their marketer?

Like, who was actually doing this? Because I would never put a vaccine commercial on our podcast. I mean, are you doing that just so in hopes that like one person has been listening or like, yeah, you know what? I knew it. I can change one mind on this. podcast. Absolutely. And you know, Candace Owen's posted and to your point, Sherry, and she said COVID Epstein and now Charlie Kirk. And it says, number one, something terrible happens. Number two, government officials tell us absurd lies.

Number three, public demands the truth. Number four, experts begin diagnosing people who are demanding the truth. And she points to you are here, right? And then the people are proven correct. This is what we see time and time and time again. Now, also to that notion, Candice Owens went on to say that there's a lot of people feeling this way about Cash Patel, and this is something that we've been talking about the last 10 minutes.

I wanted to let you hear what Candice says about Cash Patel on last night's episode. It's just a couple of minutes, but listen. Regarding Cash Patel showing his face there, I legitimately do not know how these people do it. I would literally die from shame.

I would pass away, right? immediately from shame before I would show up to that event if I was Casper Tal. Like, did they breed it out? Is this, is this a new breed of human that I don't know about where you feel nothing? There's just nothing. It's like a Josh Hammer thing. They don't feel any sense of shame at all. And they can just go, go, go, go, go. And pretend that you're honoring. I don't, I don't understand it. I truly don't understand it because I have to be a different species from whatever that is. I would melt. I'd rather melt at the floor, then show my face

knowing how badly I was dropping the ball. The whole world was dropping the ball. How do you show up to work, Cash Patel? And the answer is he shows up to work and he demands that everybody stop looking into it because he's got it under control. He wants to be, he's got a very small team of people at the FBI that are allowed to touch anything

pertaining to the Charlie Kirk case because you know, this is transparency. Finally, the adults are in charge and it's going to be the most transparent administration ever, except on the Jeffrey Epstein stuff for the Charlie Kirk stuff, who was a friend of the administration. That's, we got to be a little bit opaque on real headline, New York Times yesterday, pertaining to how upset Cash Patel was when he received an inquiry from Joe Kent, Tulsi Gabbard's office.

They lead the National Counterterrorism, okay, center. Joe Kent does. And him inquiring about details into this apparently alarmed Cassie. Patel. He says Kash Patel was alarmed. He called a meeting, in fact. He wanted to investigate the assassinated and pertaining to Joe Kent. They were like, hey, maybe people overseas were involved in his murder. Maybe they were thinking, Beebe saying too much. Can we look, can we just look at these files? It's our job overseas terrorism. And Cash Patel was so alarmed by this, so alarmed that they would look into these files that he held a meeting apparently.

Oh, what are you, this is not appropriate. It's not appropriate for you to be looking into this, okay? We don't want you knowing whether or not there was a foreign power or another entity that was involved in this. And this is the reason that Cash Patel decided to have a meeting with Susie Wiles and Joe Kent and Tulsi Gabbard and Trump officials. I think it said J.D. Vance was in this meeting as well and nothing was accomplished. Because why wouldn't you, if you're the most transparent administration ever, share, get the help. hey, we're supposed to be partners in this. Don't we all want to find out who killed Charlie Kirk?

We do. And, you know, Cash Patel does not want people looking into this at all. 100% he does not want anybody looking into any foreign involvement in the Charlie Kirk assassination. So I want to read this article that Josh Hammer alongside Daily Mail decided to do after the Nick Fintez and Tucker Carlson interview. Now, if you guys don't think that this is a propaganda hit piece that is influenced and paid by someone, then I don't know what to tell you. Just listen to the way this is. So the title was,

Tucker Carlson just hit a new low with this heinous betrayal of my friend Charlie Kirk, who is surely now rolling in his grave, Josh Hammer. And so Daily Mail Plus basically brought in Josh Hammer as a right. writer on this big article that they spent tons of money pushing a lot of money they spent a lot of marketing money pushing this article and it says on monday evening the most dangerous man in america tucker crawson he says set to interview a confused millennial now the pair who for months had been regaling the masses with a bit of low rent turf or implying the other was an undercover fed or federal agent decided to drop the fox hatchet once and for all. They did so not necessarily because

they care for one another, but because of their shared passion for tackling a mutual foe, Western civilization, which for millennia has claimed the Hebrew Bible Old Testament as this preeminent moral and legal wellspring. Just to be clear, I'm not talking about George Soros and Hassan Piker. This was a chat between the erstwhile king of cable news, Marker Carlson and Nick Fuentes, the Holocaust denier, who has been a leading anti-Semitic provocateur since he first burst onto the political commentary scene a decade ago. Fuentes, perhaps most infamous for a 2019 rant where he and analogized Jews massacred by Nazis to the Sesame Street character Cookie Monster, baking cookies in an oven in an attempt

to explain why six million dead Jews at the hand of the Nazis just doesn't make sense, stayed true to his form during the Carson interview. Carlson interview. At various points, Fentz mused about the evils of organized jury and contended that his discredited neoconservatism cannot be divorced from Jewishness. The host response, in turn, was so falling that it amounted to a laundering of Fentz repungent beliefs. Fentz, who has personally called me filth and said that Jews like me and broadcaster

Mark Levin are not American and do not belong here, predictably claimed yet again on Carlson showed that American Jews put the interest of Israel over the interests of their own country. In a monstrous, destructive lie, he claimed that Jews hate European because the Romans destroyed the temple in Jerusalem two millennia ago. It's simply preposterous. But the Jewish people themselves only represent the tip of the spear of what Carlson Fuentes-Kibal represents. Carlson personally saved his most seething hatred for his fellow Christians and those of a Zionist disposition in particular. Specifically, Carlson said that Christian Zionists are a dangerous heretics that he despises them more than anyone else on earth, certainly more than the

Sharia law proponents of whose behalf Carlson has taken, curiously, to offering meek apology. Ironically, it is Carlson himself who is the Christian heretic. In an August podcast episode, Carlson confessed to his guest that he just read his Bible's Old Testament for the first time last year and that he was shocked by the violence and genocide he encountered therein. and the pastor, due to his familiarity with the neophytes, and having read the Bible prior to his mid-50s, didn't take debate. As I noticed last month, the contention that God of the Hebrew Bible is not the God of the New Testament is quite literally heretical on Christianity's on terms.

In fact, the fringe doctrine that there are two gods, a vengeful Old Testament God and a benevolent God revealed through Jesus Christ. Make no mistake, there is a sprawling information operation afoot that has its goal, the fracture, of the is semical Jewish Christian biblical alliance that long ago built and which can alone sustain Western civilization

and that civilization leading light the United States. That's literally what that verse says. All right, not verse, but verse. That's literally what that paragraph says. I think there's some typos there.

The operation has its leading objectives, the distancing of evangelical Christians from the Jewish people, and the distancing of evangelical Christians, the United States from Israel. The operatives are cheering on the West Islamist and globalist enemies, whether they care to admit it or not. Carlson is their leading propagandist, and Fuentes, an opportunistic click chaser, is along for the ride. One man who was decidedly not along for the hellish jaunt with someone Carlson now has the audacity of purport to represent the and memorialize my late

friend and as a noted Christian Zionist Charlie Kirk. Perhaps no one in America despise Nick Fuentes more than Kirk. Fuentes tormented Kirk and his now widow Erica for years on end and over the fact Kirk would not allow Fuentz to attend Kirk's turning point USA conferences. In his final months, Kirk's hostility towards Fuentes only hardened. He was horrified to see the raging bigot gained traction and right of center circles, something he privately confided in me and few others. And by the way, this part of this article, I call complete bullshit, just so you know.

And the reason why I call bullshit, I'm not saying that that Fuentes and Charlie Kirk had a great relationship. They didn't. They hated each other. Nick Fuentes even came out and said that, that they were pretty much rivals. Yes. Yeah, they were. And then Nick Fuentes kind of responded to this article, which will play that clip in just a second. But what I think is interesting is that he, he, you also can't believe what Josh Hammer says because he's already been proven to be a liar based on.

what he said on other podcasts before uh before cannes so ones released wasn't around him for no no no no no i'm saying that when candace released the text messages saying that charlie kirk was basically disavowed in israel and he was in those text messages and he was literally the one that was you know writing back that's what i'm saying so and it also says in his final months kirk's hostility towards wednesdays only hardened and he was the most pro-christian zionist basically on the planet is what he's still saying in an article, although we know that now to not be true. Now, as of Salem Broadcast Network colleague Dinesh D'Souza revealed yesterday, Kirk was

livid at D'Souza for recently deigniting the debate, Fuentes. Kirk called Fentez a vermin. None of this was news to me. Kirk himself had encouraged me to express D'Souza my own frustrations. I neglected to do so for that very simple reason that DeSuzza so thoroughly and effectively skewered Fentz in their debate. But I have no doubt that. Kirk is now rolling in his grave after Carlson's latest stunning act of anti-Western subjugation

and personal betrayal. Carlson Fuentes, Kenes-Sohans, and their entire disreputable ilk, and incapable of acknowledging that an American might simply support the Jewish people because he sees in the Jews the origins of monotheism and thus all-Western morality. They refuse to concede that an American might support close-knit U.S.-Israel relations, not due to moral or financial blackmail, but due to an earnest assessment that the alliance further American interest. They can't bring themselves to admit such basic points because to do so would undermine the assertion that has become most foundational to their feted worldview. The Jews are responsible for all of Americans' ills. The Americans must therefore abandon them. And in order for

this to happen, it is not that the statistically insignificant Jews must necessarily come to load themselves, but that those statistically very significant Christians must come to loathe the Jews. If this looks like a war on MAGA and the modern American right, that's because that is exactly what it is. Carlson and his clan have declared that their jihad, not on the woke forces of the civilization arson on the Adel Brain Left, but on the forces of civilization's sanity on the MAGA right. They hope to burn down MAGA and build a neo-pagan, anti-Western, anti-biblical movement in its steed. the fox is now comfortably inconst in the hen house and unless the fox is neutralized

the victim could be the entire extant GOP coalition itself so that is what he says at the end and I don't think that by the way that Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes are anti-biblical or anti-Western I actually think it's a complete opposite of that no but I think there is a great divide

between the Republican Party with what they call the right and the woke right. Yeah. And I think that's what's going on. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, absolutely. And but what I do say is like I believe Tucker believes in God.

I definitely know that Nick Fuentes believes in God. But I also don't understand obviously some of the shit that Nick Fuentes says. I mean, he does have a very interesting merchandise line that you guys. Oh, yeah. Maybe shouldn't check. I know, we're not going to say it. You were telling me about it last night, though. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. He has a very, very. very interesting merchandise line and it doesn't have anything to do with Israel or Jewish people but it is very interesting and the crazy thing is according to some stats that he like he's selling out every single time he makes a merchandise drop which is nuts anyways so um Nick Fuentes kind of responded to this article right and this is essentially what he had to say and so think about what Josh Hammer was saying about how much Charlie Kirk despise Nick Fuentes, which like we said is pretty much true.

Right. We know that. But also you got to keep in mind that Josh Hammer was also saying prior to Candace Owens and kind of coming out and really starting to talk about their relationship. You know, Josh Hammer and Turning Point USA higher ups were talking about how Charlie Kirk was trying to distance himself from Candace Owen. No, that's not true though. but turning point wanted them wanted him to distance himself from candace owens and tucker carlson but what i'm saying is turning point yes but they were also going out after charlie kirk's assassination saying that charlie kirk wanted nothing to do with any of them and we know that's

false and we know it's false because we saw the text messages right so here is the clip of nick quintas and what he talks and he does i don't think he necessarily mentions the article but this was just a segment in his show last night which we will play now I think everybody has had enough. And it's like Charlie Kirk said, it's true. Charlie Kirk hated me. It's true. Charlie Kirk despised me.

He did not like me. And I didn't like him. I didn't like him for one second that he was alive. That's absolutely true. But you know what else is true? Two days before Charlie Kirk died, he started to agree with me. Not you. Two days before he died, Charlie Kirk said,

they are leaving me with no choice. He said, I'm going to bring Tucker Carlson to Amfest, and I'm going to bring Kanna-Sowens too. He said, because they are leaving me no choice. And I would bet you a lot of money that if Charlie Kirk lived a little bit longer, he would have brought me to turning point as well. Because that's a direction it was going in. That's a direction it had been trending in for years.

And by the way, I got to stop when he says this because it's kind of funny, right? It's funny to imagine that concept because, and the reason why I wanted to mention before we played this clip, when Josh Hammer and all the Turning Point USA higher-ups were like, no, no, no. Charlie Kirk, yeah, Charlie Kirk hated Candace and Tucker and he wanted nothing to do with them. And then the text messages were released. Now, obviously, the text messages didn't say, hey, by the way, can you imagine what the group would have said if he's like, by the way, maybe we should bring Nick Flintez.

Oh, and I loved how he say, if he would have just stayed. alive a little bit longer. I would have been there too. Yeah, it's nuts, right? It's crazy that he's saying this, right? I mean, is that true? Probably not. But you also never know.

Well, you never know what their relationship could have been after the fact. If he were alive, maybe their relationship changed. Maybe they stop hating each other. And maybe they start agreeing in certain areas. Yeah. I mean, and it's funny because sometimes you can have the biggest enemies that you can then come together on something that brings you. you together once and for all. And I'm not saying that that would have happened. But obviously,

I think that we saw Charlie Kirk leading up to the months and even probably about a year or so up to his death that he was really changing his views. And this is not to say, and keep this also in mind. He's specifically talking about the Israel government, Charlie Kirk and just their influence of politics in America. So when Charlie Kirk was like saying this stuff, in that text message chain. He wasn't saying that I hate Jews or whatever because Charlie Kirk would never say that. Like there's no reason. And I want to say this.

There's no reason to hate Jews in general. You know, the Bible and the more I had researched this last night is kind of funny because I debated Brie last night for like four hours. It seemed like. And I debated Brie because I think it was iron, sharpening iron. That's what Brie said. It's like, you know, we can debate this. And I think that we can get something out of it both sides. One of the things that the Bible specifically continually says is that there is a difference in Israel,

the kingdom and Israel the righteous, right? You were telling me about this. Yeah, and this is very important. The Bible says it more than once in the Bible. So that does not mean that the nation of Israel over there, right, and Bebe Me Netanyahu and whoever's the leading party and officials of the government, that doesn't mean that God was talking about Bebe Me Net and Yahoo and who's leading Israel. God was talking about the righteous Jews that followed God and not the kingdom.

That didn't persecute and in genocide or kill or steal or thief or continually all the way to the end go against the Messiah actually is what the Bible says. And so the one thing I've always said is like, I've never been against Jewish people. I don't I don't care either way. Like I care for Jewish people as much as I care for anybody else. I don't look at them and say, well, they're Jews. I hate them. That would be dumb. That would be dumb to do that.

My only thing has always been. And I think, I guess, kind of debating and going through stuff last night is like, my problem is not obviously at all with the Jewish people, the righteous Jews or whoever. It's against the kingdom. That's what it's probably against. It is the government. Well, yeah. And that's what you're saying, you're saying that the kingdom is the government. The kingdom of the government.

You will talk crap about our own government. Absolutely. And why can't you talk crap about our government and you can't talk crap about Israel? Yeah, exactly. And that's the problem. And I get that. And that's the problem. And I think that's why a lot of people, it's just fueling the fire.

When you say that you're not allowed to do this, you're not allowed to say this, that's fueling the fire. And all I'm saying is is that, look, the Bible is specific. specifically talks about the Jews and the righteous Jews and all this, the chosen people. And one day they're going to see it and all this stuff. You got to pray for them and all of this. But it also specifically talks about the kingdom, right? And there's two differences. There are two Israel in the Bible. One is the kingdom Israel and one is the righteous. And I just want everybody to understand that. When I ever talk about Israel or any of this stuff,

it literally has to do with just my belief on the government and the corruption there and the influence of our politics. feel like any government, no matter who it is, should influence the United States of America's politics, period. And I do feel like they are over-influencing the United States government. I feel like that, for example, if you are not funded or accepted by A PAC, which is the PAC for Israel, then you are not going to be in office, period. And that's on both sides. That's why oftentimes, guys, I don't know if you realize this, you don't see Republicans or Democrats talking shit about Israel because it is it is both of them that are funded by APEC.

I tend to disagree with that because I think Democrats have talked crap more about Israel. They just haven't talked up as much for Israel. But I think you're right. I think that, you know, America is its own nation. It's its own government and foreign politics, period, should stay out of American politics. Yeah, absolutely. And that's all we're saying. But I think that, you know,

we have to separate, like you're saying, a religion from a government. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. I don't have a problem with the Jewish religion. I mean, obviously, I'm a Christian. I believe in Jesus Christ. And I hope that one day they accept Jesus Christ. And there are actually some Jews that are Jesus believers.

Those are Masonic Jews. Now, let me ask you a question. Do you think if BB were not prime minister for the last 12 years and somebody else was in charge or in office because it seems like he? is more powerful than the president, do you think things would be different? Probably. I mean, they would be different. I don't know how different they would be, but I just feel like that.

Do you think they would still be influencing American politics? Yeah, I mean, I think they've influenced American politics for a very long time. I don't know, I don't know the roots and why and how of all that. But, you know, it's just very interesting, right? And I think there's a reason why people critique and talk. about Israel, I think especially after October 7th, although, yes, it was horrific what happened in Israel on October 7th. I think nobody can deny that. And especially, like, as we've done podcasts in the past, if they knew about it. I wish it never happened, though. Just like, just like,

okay, for example, just like, for example, you know, the Jerusalem Post talked about Israel government knowing about the attacks coming for a year prior to them happening. Just like we speculate and talk about 9-11 to where we feel like that our government was complacent on purpose. Right. And, At the very least to 9-11. It's the same thing that likely happened in Israel. But you realize how taboo that has been. Like, we have never to this day still done a 9-11 series because it is so taboo to talk about. It's not anymore.

It's not so much now in like the last couple of years, but it has been very taboo. Yeah, it's just there's so much. If you even contemplate that our government has something to do with it, you just don't talk about it. Yeah. Well, there's just so much. much to talk about, right? And that's why I've been waiting. We're when trying to get the right people to talk about it, like the architects and engineers for 9-11 truth, we want to bring those guys on. If anybody has a connection to any of those guys that can bring them on our podcast so we can

go through all of that, please let us know, email us, investigate earth podcast at protonmel.com Because, I mean, I do have like an entire file, I guess you can say of all that stuff, but I would still like to bring someone that's been doing this there and, you know, for ever since 9-11. That's what they focus on their whole life. Yeah, that's their entire thing. I'd rather do that because, I mean, I think that is obviously the most pivotal moment in our nation's history,

especially in my lifetime. I mean, obviously there's, you know, there's a founding, you know, the 1776 and there's, there's the Civil War. I mean, there's a lot of stuff that has been pivotal moments, but I think 9-11 was a huge moment. And I think it's caused a lot of things going forward. I mean, even you think about the Patriot Act and the erosion of freedoms after. that and the things that they utilized based after 9-11.

But anyways, let's listen to a little more of what Nick Fuentes says in this. He was emboldened. Charlie Kirk let Tucker come to SAS over the summer. He got nothing but pushback and attacked by Josh Hammer himself. Hammer leaves that part out. He was brutal to Charlie Kirk, as was Bill Ackman, as were all the others. so much so that it turned Charlie against them. And in his final days, Charlie said, you know what, F them.

I'm bringing Tucker back. And I'm going to bring Canna Soans too. How long before the Groypers would have been there? And the thing about Josh Hammer at the end of the day, he is not an American. No, Josh, you're not American. There's nothing American about you. You don't fucking look American. You don't sound American.

your wife's not American, you're not American. And you're not American, maybe most importantly, because you will never put America first. As long as you are loyal to Israel in any way, as long as you are advocating for America to give its money to Israel, to send its people to die for Israel. You are not loyal to America. You can never say America first. you will never be America first, and you will never be an American. So if you believe that Israel is the foundation of Western civilization, if you believe the Hebrew

Bible matters so much, if you have such a problem with Americans like me and Tucker Carlson, then why don't you go to Israel? Anyways. He does go a little overboard with that, I will say, because he is bringing religion into it. And I don't know, but I think, you know, we've had these discussions before and I don't really want to get into it because I don't want to get an argument. But, you know, talking about how all the Jewish people are like the top 10% of America and they rule America and all that stuff. I think that's kind of where he's going with that as well. Yeah.

Well, I mean, it's, you know, it also kind of goes back for Nick Fuentes where Ben Shapiro himself said that it's Israel first for him. Israel first. That is the thing. You know, Israel is a Jewish state. He is Israel first and he's America second. And I guess it's because maybe, you know, I, like I've told you guys on many podcasts, I am spiritual, but I'm not religious. I don't believe in man-made religion, whatever.

And maybe this man-made religion makes him believe in Israel first because that is where the Bible takes place. Well, yeah, I mean, I don't think, but I mean. No, I'm just trying to understand why Ben would be Israel first. Is it because that is like the holy place of the earth? No, it's because he believes that his alliance is to Israel before America. That's why. But is his alliance in accordance to the Bible or to the Torah.

He is a Jew in America. It's due to Torah. It's not the Bible. He doesn't care anything about the New Testament. Right, right. But I'm just saying, is that where he's getting his foundation is from the Torah and his religious beliefs and knowing where biblical times took place? It's a sacred place. And that's why he's pro-Israel.

I think maybe. I have no idea. I mean, but, you know, I guess he's, he is a Jew. And so he believes that his alliance is first to Israel and second to, I guess, America. Right. And I think a lot of American first people are just like, look, you live. in America though. Yeah, I know.

And I get that. But it goes the same sense too with Muslims. Like, Oh, absolutely. The sacred place on earth is in Israel. And we all know that. But it's not just Israel,

though. You know, a lot of parts of the Bible took place throughout the Middle East. Oh, it did. But I'm just saying the main foundation of it is in Israel. And I think that's why Israel is a fighting ground. It's a religious state. Yeah.

It's a religious place. know what the most important part about Israel as a land, a holy land is with the entirety of the Bible is Jesus. That is where he was born. That is where he walked. That is where he performed miracles. That is where he died. That is where he was resurrected. That is literally the reason why like that land, if anything, is the most foundational of historical, biblical foundation is Jesus Christ. Now, Jews don't believe that. Jews believe because they were walked out of Egypt and through the exodus and into their land by God, you know, but they don't believe in Jesus as a savior. Some do. Some have accepted Jesus as a savior. Those are maceonic Jews. But in my opinion,

looking at it from a Christian perspective, the reason why Israel is foundational as far as God or biblical is because of Jesus, period. But if you go to Israel and you're like, hey, can you guys show me like where Jesus was and like where he was resurrected as the savior and all this because that's why I would want to go to Israel? And that's why Beebe even invited Charlie Kirk to go there to see where Jesus was. Yeah, which is weird. I mean, it's just none of it. I think it's a respectful way of respecting others' religions.

Well, but that is not necessarily what happens in Israel. I mean, let's just be honest. It's not what happens in Israel. Well, it's not what happens in other religions either. I mean, there are Christians that are sped on in Israel. Okay. Well, let's talk about Nigeria. Well, yeah, they mean, they get killed Nigeria.

Yeah, by who? by Muslims, but but also, you know, you also have to understand that like it's, you know, yes, well, extremist Muslims kill people, but look, we got way off topic here. We're definitely talking about Charlie Kirk, but all I'm saying is is that, you know, you could say the same thing. We talk about like Muslims killing Christians, but what about Israel killing us 80,000. My whole point is, though, is I think that maybe an alliance with Israel is because it's a holy land. That's what I'm saying.

And I'm not saying that they should be in our politics at all. But I'm just saying that's why people, Christians, Jews and Muslims feel like Israel is a sacred place. Yeah. I don't know. Well, like I said, the reason why I feel like Israel is a sacred place is because that's where Jesus was born and died and resurrected. You know, so, but Jewish people do not believe that because they do not believe he was any of those things. You know, they do believe he was killed, right? they do believe he was a person.

They just don't believe he was a savior. They denied that, right? So I guess my viewpoint on why that Israel is a holy land is different than Jewish people's belief of why it's a holy land, right? That's all I'm saying. All right. So this next clip we're going to play is Alex Jones talking about how, number one, he was reached out to people high up in the White House about the Charlie Kirk assassination.

And in specific, I guess his sources into. the Trump administration has been talking to him a decent amount, right? And I would assume it's probably Tulsi Gabbard's people somewhere around, you know, because I know Tulsi Gabbard's been on the show before. I'm sure he talks to her quite a bit. And look, regardless of whatever people want to think about Alex Jones, whether he sensationalizes stuff or whatever, you know, he has been in communication with presidents and people within, you know, the intelligence communities and whoever for a very long time.

His dad was a part of the intelligence community, very much like Tucker Carlson and some of these others. So when he says stuff like about what he's about to talk about in this clip, understand that he's not just bullshitting you. He's literally saying it with good reasoning and the fact that it actually happened. You know, Trump has mentioned Alex Jones numerous times, not just Trump, but as I've said, many of the people that are in Trump's cabinet right now have been on either Alex Jones or they've, communicated very heavily. One of the things he starts talking about here, and I had to fast forward it a little bit, but there is this war on influencers. And it's not the influencers like, you know, what we've talked about already, that is

staying in line with the narratives or staying in line with whatever their agenda is. The war is on influencers that step out of line. And Alex Jones also says, I don't know if I, I don't know if we're at the part where he's says this, but it's like, it's not even the biggest influencers that are in danger. It's also the medium influencers. The people that, you know, have a million downloads on a podcast or whatever the case is. The people that do have influence over people, they are also in danger because there is this narrative shift right now. There is this mass movement to where things are not happening the way they want them to happen. Things are not going their way. And like Charlie Kirk, you know,

Charlie Kirk's assassination, in my 100% opinion, is not because of Antifa wanted to take out Charlie Kirk. Like, there was not, in my opinion, like, look at Antifa in Portland. Yeah, that sounds ridiculous to me. Like, look at Antifa in Portland. You know, they want to, they want to hype all this Portland shit up with how organized Antifa is and how all the, but if you actually watch the live streams of Portland, they're morons. and they are literally like either not necessarily all unemployed by the way some of these people work at Starbucks or some of them are engineers or software engineers or whatever but these people yes they are antifa but they're not like this some mass organized group now anyways I mean they may have been

in the past but I'm just telling you I don't I don't buy the Tyler Robinson was indoctrinated and turned by Antifa this mass movement to where there's this big conglomerate of maybe what I say intelligence, but like coordination and planning and all of this shit. And I even go back to Discord where they said, Tyler Robinson never planned anything on Discord. We've looked at everything he's done. He didn't do any of that. And then the FBI and all of them came out. So, oh, no, no, no, no.

He definitely did. He definitely did all this. We know it for sure, even though we'll never see that. But Discord literally came out and said, no, he didn't do this. And Discord's going to know. They're not going to also come out in a public standpoint. statement and lie. Yeah, and saying he was not on Discord saying the things he did.

Yeah. And especially knowing that like this is going to be one of the biggest investigations in U.S. history. Right. Discourse is not going to come out and just lie. I want to back you up just for a second before we go on because I want to ask you an important question. And the important question is this.

The Antifa we're seeing now like in Portland in other areas. Is it the same Antifa that we saw during Black Lives Matter, the summer of love? Is it the same Antifa? Because let me tell you what I'm seeing that's very different. From then to now, then they had blocks of bricks dropped off. They had weapons dropped off. They had things ready to go. They were burning down buildings.

They were doing really bad things. They were going into businesses and looting and taking everything and ruining people's businesses. I'm not seeing that Antifa now. When I see the Antifa now, they are. mostly peaceful. Yeah. Yeah, they are. I mean, I think number one,

it's because that whoever the organizers are of Antifa, especially since Trump was elected, have to be very careful now because you can't just be sending money to these organizations, factions, bank accounts, whoever, because the Trump administration is going to be able to find that pretty easily, right? And then it's going to be tied back. So it's going to be a lot harder for the Trump administration to go back in time,

right, to look at BLM and all. all that stuff, even though it's possible still, and it's very possible. But it's going to be harder for them to go back in time and look at where the funding was coming from than it is if they're literally still funding Antifa riots right now, because that's going to be like a real-time actionary thing. So are you saying the funding has changed? Yes, I think. I don't think they're funding anymore.

I think they cut all that off. They can't just start funding Antifa while the Trump administration is in office. And they have all the power and all the resources to find out who these, you know, where the money's coming from. Right. They're at the very least, the Trump administration will probably still find who funded Antifa and BLM and all that stuff then. But it's just going to be harder. And you're not going to be a moron and still be doing the same shit you did during the summer of love when the Trump administration is an office.

But how are they a moron? Nobody got in trouble. If they got, if they got arrested, they were in jail and then they were out the next day. My point to this is that they don't really, they're not going to. to be funding the same way they would have back then because the Trump administration is smarter now than they were before and they're looking out for that, you know, where those money trails are coming from and so on and so forth. So I don't think it's going to be the same. But either way, what I was saying is Alex Jones was talking about that they're going to start going after

influencers that are trying to turn the conversation around from the narrative. And the interesting thing is Alex Jones doesn't necessarily blame Trump or the administration. Alex can't really do that because he has a lot of people in the Trump administration that confide in him, kind of keep him close to their vest, all this stuff. So he's never going to say likely the things that you think he's going to say, but he says it still in some other ways. And let's start here with what he's talking about specifically about the influencers. And then he gets into the Charlie Kirk and who told him, who reached out to him about

what actually happened when California. Ash Patel shut down the investigation into Charlie Kirk. Listen. And I saw all the pre-programming, and they were just pissed because I knew it. And I didn't even say anything about journalists. I didn't say, go kill journalists. Of course, they didn't show you a clip because I didn't say it. I said, you better be ready if you're going to stay in your house.

You better be ready to defend yourself. You better have your battle rifle ready. And if you can afford it or do it and you're a prominent person, and don't think you're not important. Even if you're just somebody with a medium-sized show, you're probably on their list. They are coming to your house. So I was raising the alarm and saying they're getting ready to trigger this so that they wouldn't be able to trigger it. Because even back then, all the intelligence agencies, everybody listened, and they're all compartmentalized.

The average threat fusion center, the average sheriff's department, the average Pentagon, you know, intelligence unit, they're not involved in any of this. It's globalist corporate contractor combines that'll do the detonation, the trigger of it. and so, you know, I mean, if I woke up and I heard Trump's been killed, I'm in the car out of my house immediately, and I'm not even there most of the time now because I understand how red level the threat is right now. And so, you know, I wake up, God forbid Tucker Carlson's dead. I told Joe Rogan this, everybody, I said, believe me, buddy, you're on the list. And he agrees with me. The minute you see a nuke go off, they blame it on the Russians, whatever the thing is, a black college is blown up by truck bomb.

300 illegal aliens get shot at the demonstration. That'll be the pretext for the civil unrest to overwhelm local authorities. And then sometime around that time, they're going to roll out and you'll just hear in all the chatter, oh, all this stuff happened, all these people got killed, all these things happened. And they are just going to spring into action. They're going to attack police stations, the ones they don't fully control, and jurisdictions they don't control. They've got a list of police they're going to kill.

Folks, you need to listen to me. This is 100% going down if we don't get it word out. and I've advised on-air and off-air to people in the White House of the Pentagon, and they all know this. I just say, you need to have urgency, and I've studied this a lot, and this is what I think you should do. And I said when Trump first got in, he needs to move all his key people to military bases immediately, immediately, and then put them on high alert, which they've done covertly, so that they're unable to decapitate us when they make this jump.

so but just exposing them is why they're so pissed off because the fact that tens of millions are watching listening to this degrades their ability to carry this out very badly but how much we degrade this plan is how much you share it and promote it and I'm going explain something really powerful when we come back I'll start talking about it right now and I'm trying to get the archives to find it because I get stuff like this that's so interesting and so powerful and I ask these people why are you telling me and they go well we've decided we think you should put this out. So I, about a month ago or so,

I talked about it a couple times, and then of course, it didn't go viral because something's huge, and exclusive and real, from somebody with total credibility with this huge track record of being incredibly accurate. You know, it's like, eh.

I'm told by someone in the cabinet meeting, a private one, that Cash Patel has this big fight with Tulsi Gabbard, and J.D. Vance is there. This person in the room. that thought I should have this information. And that Patel killed an investigation to any accomplices of killing Kirk, foreign or domestic.

That's when I said, well, okay, it is officially a cover-up. And I elaborated on it some, but it's so. And then now it breaks yesterday all over the news about this exact meeting and that happening. Word for word what I told you. I mean, when I'm telling you this, like, people you understand, like, people always ask, who tells me what to say? I'm in charge. as much as anybody except like Trump or somebody,

I call the shots. I have like top current people in the intelligence agencies. He's called me and say, what should we do? I'm not bragging. You should understand the power of this broadcast, okay? I'm in command. You understand that? We'll be right back.

All right. I didn't say what I just said last segment to sound big or be on a power trip or anything. Actually sit back and think about who exposed the neural order more than I have. Who has done the most wide spectrum analysis of every facet of all these different. countries, interlocking systems. I've done it.

Because I've been totally immersed for 35 years in this fight, 31 on air. I've been obsessed with this since I was about seven years old. I've been absolutely just natural to it. And that's God's hand's been on me. And the bad guys know that. They know I accurately see through their plans. To me, it's so simple. And I've been reached out to many times by the Pentagon, many times by intelligence agencies,

many times by the DOJ asking my advice for decades now, you know, the good guys in there and what they think I think is going to happen next. And I'm just like, you don't know about all these, what they said here, there. It's all, they're like, no, give us a report. Now it's all crystal clear. So when I said, who tells Alex Jones what to say, I do. Cash Patel tried to shut down the director of national intelligence and the National Fusion Center Director,

which you're supposed to share intelligence, that was the point of the laws, passed for 9-11, wanting no investigation of accomplices domestically or accomplices internationally. So that's officially a cover-up. Now, I said that I got that from someone in the private cabinet meeting. You understand there's only members of the cabinet in those

and their aides. And I was called, and they said this, the information, they want you to put this out, that Cash Patel is doing a cover-up. And I said, who wants me to say that? And they told me who. And so I went on air and I said, I've been told to tell you this. Now, word for word, what I told you is now in the news, the exact meaning all of it.

I continue to point this out so some people out there that, you know, live in La La Land can get this. This isn't some 4chan Q drop with a bunch of gobbledy, gook, esoteric, gnaustic crap, vagaries that you're supposed to decode and you're magic, you know, decoder ring. This is what happened. And I'm giving these things all the time because the good guys want to boost my credibility. I've got to get 10 different assumptions to make this gunshot work. And maybe, right, Alex?

In the universe of worlds, maybe the jackpot power ball got hit. And all of those things happened. And that's what led to this 30-odd-6 round that passing through is now. If you want to believe that, and I know some people do, that's fine. But I'm sorry. I don't know anybody wants to believe this now, but the FBI. But I was told two days before Mattel came out, so we're looking at everything, all the angles, helpers, hand signs.

I was told from inside the White House, no, they're going with lone gunmen. They're not even looking at the trantifa saying he'll be dead tomorrow. So I was told by very credible people, there's a cover up. And I don't say that with pleasure. All right. So that was Alex Jones and where he's talking about that he had inside sources into that meeting that reached out to him and said, this is what happened. And why would they reach out to Alex Jones and say this is what happened? That's the question.

And it's because they know that the mainstream media and their official statements, they have to be a certain way. They have to come out in a combined statement like we talked about earlier with Cash Patel and Tulsi Gabbard saying the exact same thing, even though as we said earlier, you can envision both of their statements and how they're saying them. Tulsa Gabbin on one side. Yeah, there's definitely going to be no stone unturned. Cash Patel on the other side is like, no, there's no stone unturned here. Don't worry about it. We got this, right?

That's the difference. And so the reason why they have to reach out to people like Alex Jones is that they want the public to know. They want to know that there is a cover up going on and that maybe some of these conspiracy theories out there, some of these people, these pundits, that the right is calling the woke right now, maybe some of those people are not far off from their assertations of what they believe happened, right? And I think that's the entire reasoning of the messaging to people like Alex Jones. And as Alex Jones also had said that because of how fast information is getting

out and how big some of these influencers are getting is becoming a problem for the deep state. It's becoming a problem for the powerful, the elitism. Because they don't know. know how to combat this. It's hard. Like just for example, we posted on our Instagram yesterday. You know, Trump announced three weeks ago that I have said that the CIA is allowed to operate within Venezuela. Venezuela two days ago came out and said that they have captured some CIA operatives in

Trinidad and Trinidad and Tobago. I call BS on it. And maybe. And maybe it's true. But they did say in their official statement that they captured these guys that I guess you said Sherry, they were there on missionary trips, supposedly. Yeah. Which is like, would be the CIA operative cover.

They had weapons. Decrypted radios. They had decrypted or encrypted radioes. And they also had some kind of training manuals. Yeah. Like CIA manuals. Yeah. Why would you have CIA training manuals?

I have no idea with you. I mean, that seems like that would be the last thing. It seems like that would be the last thing you would do, right, on an operation is have an official CIA manual with you. But either way, that's what. the Venezuelan government is claiming is that they have caught some CIA operatives that were planning on blowing up a U.S. ship and blaming it on Venezuela. But I'm saying all that to say this, is that there is a fast release of information

nowadays that is happening on an everyday basis. And so when people like Alex Jones get information, and we get information too from people often, that they're like, hey, this is what I know, this is what I, this is what I've heard, this is I'm involved in this and this is why I know this. It's going to be tough. And this is something that I worry about more than anything is like mass censorship. You know, we worried about it obviously with Biden Harris because they wanted to win the election. That was a big thing.

And the deep state felt like, hey, look, we got a Cinaw president. We got Kamala Harris. She knows absolutely nothing about what's going on. We can control them to the ump degree. And they did. That's why we're heavily, heavily in debt. That's why I believe the Russian Ukraine war was allowed to happen. I think there was a lot of stuff that that took place under that administration that made people very, very rich, richer than they already were.

And I think there's a reason why that this administration might be cooperating or some of the people in the administration is controlled. Because there is still the same narrative. But I just, I've said this a million times. It's very hard to go into office in the United States or America not controlled. Right. even if you think that you're not controlled in the very beginning, you quickly realize how controlled you are. Yeah. And I keep putting my brain into like Cash Patel's brain, for example.

And when was he first controlled? When was it? Was it when he was doing the podcast? Yeah. Was it when he was being inducted as the FBI director or was it after? Yeah, for sure. We don't know. And like I said, it could have been before.

It could have been while he was on the podcast. It could have been all the things he was saying. kind of warming people up to Cash Patel being the FBI director and that trust that they're going to instill in Cash Patel to tell the truth. Although it's strange because it just seems like that everything that they've done so far has kind of been opposite of making people trust you and believe you. So it is very interesting. And the number one question I keep trying to figure out is like who are the they? you know when when when people keep saying they they who is they like if there are people that show up at your house or kill political influencers or just influencers in general like us or you know

i mean we're on the the the smaller scale i guess you can say from people like you know joe rogan or whoever but but you know if someone killed joe rogan or alex jones or tucker carlson or nick Fuentes or or whoever else you listen to, podcast-wise or influencer-wise, that has a decent-sized show, like who would it be that kills them and why? And I think that's the question

that we're asking about Charlie Kirk. Was it Tyler Robinson because of some ideological craziness that he had picked up along the way from the left that made him be able to go out get the gun from his

what do you call him old man which is very strange his grandpa's yeah his grandpa's gun but it was his old man that gave it to him right this guy's literally talking

like he lives back in the 1920s like was it Tyler Robinson that acted alone completely and is that just the official story that took the perfect shot of Charlie Kirk that they said was a 30 out six round that also had people in the crowd

that was you know making sure the law enforcement focused on them so that the shooter could get away, although the pictures that were shown about who the shooter was coming up the stairway doesn't actually look like Charlie or like Tyler Robinson. There's also a lot of weird stuff like right after the Charlie Kirk assassination, the people around Charlie Kirk, what their actions were right directly after this.

Like is all this normal? We don't know. But the question is like, who is they? Who is they? And you know, if you're a Bible believer, if you're a Christian, if you believe in the Bible, and some that people always tell me, it's like, well, it doesn't matter what the situation is. It doesn't matter, you know, about whether Israel was this or that, or it doesn't matter, like, who killed Charlie Kirk. It doesn't matter if turning point USA was involved or they weren't,

which I don't necessarily think that, but it's just, I think it does matter, even though, yes, it is written in the Bible. It is written for sure, but I still don't think that, I think truth is what compels people, right? And all we want to do on this podcast is try to find the truth. And it's very hard right now. It is so hard. And I don't even know who to believe anymore. No, but I talk to so many people and they're like, well, why do you guys even do this?

Like, you know, the water is so muddied now. You can't even figure out who to believe and what to believe and like what the truth is. But like if we quit doing this or people like us quit doing podcasts like this or shows like this, then they win. They win a lot faster. They went a lot easier. And although it may be written, that doesn't mean that God or Jesus especially ever told us to give up. It doesn't mean that he ever told us to quit disciplining or quit telling people about him. Right. But it also goes to a point where you have to look at your own beliefs within your own self and come to a point where where does truth and beliefs weigh in your mind?

Well, I mean, I think it goes back to we can't decipher what's actually going on in this world today. There's just no way to do that. There's no way to figure out like what is true or what is false. But I do believe, like I said, I do believe in the Bible. I do believe in Jesus. And I believe that a lot of the stuff or most everything that we're seeing today is prophetic. I think the Bible describes it in detail. If you really get into the Bible and you start researching,

and I do want to say something else. Like if you guys are not like big readers, but you have questions about things. And there are some Christians out there that like try to say this is bad to do, but use AI. Like a, I mean, AI is not going to lie to you about the verse.

Literally ask AI. Hey, I have a question about this. Can you show me the verses in the Holy Bible that pertain to this? Right. They'll show you the verses. And if you want to go a step further, go and actually open up the Bible and look and see if it says this.

Look at the context. of it leading up to that there's all those things that you can do you can utilize AI for good for yourself for your soul to figure out things to get questions to answers that maybe was a lot harder you actually had to read the entire Bible in some cases but there are easier ways to do that now and so I will say that and I think that you know I use AI for a lot of stuff we use it for research in the podcast we use it for um let me share you've used it for like your art stuff to try to like figure out how to do this and that but also feel like it's good to use it for your spiritual questions if you have a spiritual question ask a i to specifically read out or or show you

the bible verses that talk about those things as of right now anyway it's not misconstrued it's not making up things it's not putting in other words that don't exist you can cross-reference that with actual biblical apps or whatever but i think is the easier way to do it and i think that we're going forward we're going to have to really start heavily depending on on the Bible more than we ever have because when all of reality and truth is lost, which I feel like we're getting closer and closer and closer to that, because especially now with influencers that are being paid and influenced, people that you guys may have followed for a very long time and maybe you're starting to see them act differently.

Maybe you're starting to see them say different things. That's going to screw your mind up. It's going to make you think like what the hell is going on. And so the only thing I can say is like just be very kind of. careful of who you trust, who you listen to. But most importantly, if you are a Bible believer, if you are someone that wants to further your faith, use the tools that the world or whatever has provided us right now while they exist and while they can still do that to help you figure out things.

And I've used it, like I said, many times. So I just wanted to close to that. We just need to figure out who is the they? Who is they? We don't know. but I think that in the end, we're all going to know who the they is. And I think if you read the Bible, it talks specifically about who the they are. It is the globalist.

It is the New World Orderist. It is the elitist. It is the people that want to bring in the Antichrist that wants you to believe that this is the Christ, not Jesus. This is the Christ. Don't believe Jesus Christ. Believe in this guy and follow this person. And we don't know who that person is right now. but I can promise you.

I've said this on many episodes. When I was 12 years old, my mom used to listen to this evangelist on TV. And he used to scare to crap on me about the end times. And this was when I was 12 and I looked around the world and I was like, you know what? The world's not that bad, dude. Like, I mean, he's saying that we're getting close to the end times. But I think what he was meaning is like maybe kind of towards where we're at right now.

I know there's still a lot more that has to happen, I guess, even though prophetically, there's not a lot more that has to happen according to the Bible. but I do feel like we're in this war where everything that is good is bad and bad is good you're going to be confused. They're going to be nations against nations. They're going to be feast or not feast. There's going to be famines. There's going to be disease.

We're literally experiencing a lot of stuff all at once right now. Mass information war. COVID-19. All the wars that are going on. And then the talks and rumors of wars, we're talking about when we talk about World War three or the potential escalation between the United States and Russia or China. All of those things specifically say that in the Bible. So I don't know.

Read it yourself. Use AI to also help you understand like the times or the questions that you have. I think it will help you because I'm not a preacher. I'm not a pastor. I am someone that is lost and on a journey just like you guys are. And Sherry is also. We're not someone that's going to preach to you about what you should or shouldn't do. just telling you what is helping me, I guess. And challenge your own beliefs, right? If you believe

or are biased to something, challenge your beliefs in that. And go ask those questions, go look in the Bible and see if you're right or see if you're wrong. And I think that's very important. And I think the most foundational text that we've ever been given in the history of humanity is the Bible. That's what I honestly believe. And so no matter how crazy and how just I guess somewhat depressing some of the things we talk about on the show can be. Understand that there is a end of all this, which is eternal life through Jesus Christ. And I truly believe that.

And I truly believe that Jesus Christ died and was resurrected. I believe he was real. I believe he was a real man. I believe he was a miracle worker. I believe that if you believe and follow Jesus, that you are also going to have eternal life. I 100% believe that. And I just want you guys to know that.

and it's up for you to decide if you believe that. It's not up for me to tell you whether you should believe that, right? I think the only way you're really going to get to that point is by doing your own research, question your own biases, and just go into it. If anything, go into it as a non-believer and go into it as a conspiracy theorist. Go into it as you would question government, but do it as like you would question the Bible. I don't think it's wrong to question the Bible or wrong to question. those things.

But I think that I think that helps you get to a point to where you can kind of start seeing things that maybe you never saw before. So that's all I want to say. We're going to play out our song, the song we were talking about, break the chains by Revolution Code.

You can go pick it up on anywhere. You can go listen to it on Spotify, YouTube music, Apple, iTunes. Go listen to it anywhere you can listen to music. Go support us. Go share the music. Put it in your reels. By the way, you can put it in your Instagram Reels,

your Facebook post, whatever. It's on everything. and I think also TikTok. Do that. This song is about what we're literally talking about in this episode and many others. It's about good versus evil and it's about in the end that God, Jesus is going to break the chains from the evil that thinks they enslave us on this earth because there are a lot of elitist.

There are a lot of powerful people that are powerful on this earth right now because they feel like they are gods. But in the end, God will reign. Jesus will reign and he will come back and make. Make sure that he shows those people, hey, look what? You're not so powerful as you thought you were. So we're going to close it with our own song. Break the Chains by Revolution Code.

Until next time, guys, we love you. Peace out. Peace out. Forum phase. The veil is torn. A new world rises where truth is born. They dance with the serpent. They took his hand.

The fire consumed. They're stolen land Their darkness fall Beneath the flame The king of kings Will break their chain Under neon