Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Charlie Kirk UVU Report: Does It Back Candace Owens’ Claims?

Episode Date: September 29, 2026

Utah Valley University has released its independent review of the planning and security surrounding Charlie Kirk’s assassination. In this episode, we go through the decisions that put the event in an outdoor courtyard, the questions around ticketing, and the coordination between UVU police and Turning Point USA’s security team. Then we look at the claims Candace Owens has been making: does this report give any of them more weight, or does it raise a different set of questions about what went wrong that day?Check Out Our Merch

And welcome to Investigator Earth podcast. I'm your host chat alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. Tonight on Investigate Earth, we're going through Utah Valley University's independent review of Charlie Kirk assassination. We'll look at the decisions made before the event, how security was handled that day and where things may have gone wrong. We'll also talk about Candace Owens and the question she's been raising, does anything in this review make her theories more believable? Or are the security failures being used to support claims the evidence still doesn't back up? up let's get into it guys welcome to the show it is september the 28th 2026 the name of the song is fly duncan by kiley daily and guys this episode is going to be very interesting because we're going to be covering

the utah valley university independent investigation into september 10th the day that charlie kirk was assassinated on their campus we're going to talk about what they found who was at fault what did they fell at and could things have been done better and of course course we'll talk about and let you guys hear a little bit of Candice Owen's response to this whole thing. Obviously, when I first saw the tweets that were coming out or the post that Candice was, I guess, posting, the day that she went live, everybody was kind of like, what does Candice have this time? Because in the past, as Candace comes out and says, oh my God, I have some shit, I got to show you guys, or I got to tell you guys, you know, everybody just automatically goes

on attack mode. And it was kind of interesting this time around because this time, she came out with a tweet that says, my jaw is on the floor. We will be having an emergency live today. Details in a bit. I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. And that was three days ago.

So she did have a live. It was about an hour and 48 minutes long. I do encourage you guys after you listen to this episode. If you have not listened to the Candace Owens episode in full, I suggest you do so because she covers a lot of some of probably what we're not going to get to. We're going to get to the most important parts on the show today. And we are going to have. have two of the most important clips from the Candace Owen show about her thoughts and what she

had went over. And we're also just going to briefly go over in just a moment what Utah Valley essentially found as far as what was going wrong that day. And you know, Sherry, I've got to be honest, one of the things besides the actual independent review that surprises me the most is that Utah Valley University during the course of this investigation over the past months, I think it's like been six months they've been working on this independent internal investigation not one time could they get any response from anyone inside of turning point USA and yet this is the organization that charlie kirk built brick by brick he put all of his blood literally sweat tears in his life for this company and he thought i guess the day he died that he had a company of loyal people behind him that would go to the ends of the earth

to protect him, defend him, and make sure that, you know, what his mission was with this company was going to be successful. And it looks like from what Candace Owens has been saying since September 10th of last year, that Turning Point USA was a bunch of dirty, corrupt people behind the scenes and maybe were really the ones that were kind of out to get Charlie. Seems like that's kind of the case because what they have acted like since the assassination and especially considering the fact they didn't even respond to. one email, one request, repeated times UVU,

reached out at Turning Point USA, Erica Kirk, anybody, and no one would respond. Yeah, that's what I was going to say is it's not very, like, interesting to me because they didn't respond about anything. And as a matter of fact, when they were setting up this whole show for Charlie to be at, this whole thing, they were very vague in details about what actually was going on. I don't even think the police chief even knew it was Charlie Kirk coming to present at the time. They just said they needed a place in a pavilion and they needed a room for 600 people

and it must be in the pavilion. They didn't go into any details. And as a matter of fact, I think even two weeks before Charlie was booked to, yeah, to take the stage, they still didn't even know what was going on. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and as we get into this on the show tonight, I think the bigger thing is going to be how fast this whole thing came together. And was there a reason that it came together so fast? Was that

intentional? Was, was it maybe they finally were getting all of the things coming through that they wanted to do? The other strange thing is just how quick this whole event came together. And you got to ask yourself, like, was that intentional? Right. And it wasn't Utah Valley University, obviously, that was the ones that was planning this whole thing. I mean, they were helping or trying to coordinate this event with Turning Point USA. But it was Turning Point, USA, according to the internal independent investigation, that wanted this thing to come together very, very quickly. And so we'll go over all of that. Now, same day, Candace Owens also says a couple hours later after she says, my jaw was on the floor, that tweet that I just told you

about a minute ago, she says, I will take you all through the report page by page. This is the most damning document we have seen since. It confirms what I suspected all along. Everything about the planning was unnatural and it came straight from Turning Point USA headquarters. I, am so angry. And then she goes on to say again in another tweet about an hour or two later, there isn't a Department of War propaganda campaign from the gates of hell that can undo what I am reading. It's over for Turn and Point USA. The most damning part question, they refused to participate in the independent review while publicly lying about what took place. They lied repeatedly and publicly. I am thoroughly disgusted with Erica Kirk. All of this information was

at her fingertips. She attempted to be a helpless widow while allowing her employees to public lie. Link coming soon. Since she has done this live stream, she has been posting more. She says that, for example, today they gaslit me for a year when I instantly said there was something weird about how quickly this event came together. They represented to the public that the chapter requested it. No, headquarters requested and were being vague to the chapter leader about it. So what that means is, is that they were trying to say that the Utah Valley University chapter is the one that requested Charlie Kirk come to UVU on such a short notice because there was so many people that was going to be there and and they could plan this and throw it together really, really fast. Come to find out, that was a complete lie.

Who said that? Well, Turning Point USA headquarters is the one that blamed it on the local chapter. But all the while, it was actually Turning Point USA headquarters. That was the one that was saying, we got to get Charlie Kirk into Utah Valley University on September 10th. And they were literally planning this a month or two prior to the actual event. And the ones that really should be mad is the chief of police because everybody's been pointing fingers at him for the last year saying it's all his fault. But when we get into the documents and start reading through them, you will see that Turning Point USA, the headquarters, was so vague that they had no idea what was going on. Yeah.

Yeah. And that's what they're doing is like Turning Point USA is obviously trying to scapegoat and put it on the police chief in Utah Valley University. They're trying to put it on anybody they can but themselves. and currently Charlie Kirk's family is actually suing the police chief. They are suing Utah Valley University. They are essentially suing every single person they could possibly sue, except for the likely people that are actually responsible for this, which is Turning Point USA.

Now, obviously, you've got to think that Charlie Kirk's parents probably didn't want to sue the organization that Charlie Kirk literally died for building. So that kind of makes sense. But at the same time, Charlie Kirk is gone now. and if you are Charlie Kirk's parents and you are their attorneys, you know, I would be saying, hey, have you guys ever thought about like whose fault really this is? Like, have you checked, like who was responsible for the event? Who was really the most responsible for the security? You know, did the security team for Charlie Kirk work with the Utah Valley University? I mean,

these are all the questions that they should be talking about and especially with the family of Charlie Kirk. But how bad would it look ops wise that Charlie Kirk's parents? sue turning point USA. It would be huge and it would be disastrous also probably for the trial of Tyler Robinson because that's just going to give more ammunition to the potential at the very least that there might be more to this than meets the eye.

It's going to give more credence for what Candace Owens has been saying, what Ian Carroll's been saying, what Baron Coleman's been saying. So many of these people have been questioning facts around the case. So it's just a lot of weird stuff. And this report, I think, really shows a lot. And like I said, I think personally, it just makes Turning Point USA look even more guilty or at the very least more complacent. And now on Utah Valley University's website, it says learning from September 10th, strengthening campus safety.

And it says at Utah Valley University, fostering a safe and supportive learning environment is one of our highest priorities following the assassination of Charlie Kirk on September 10, 2025. UVU commissioned an independent external review to examine the university's planning, preparedness, response, and recovery, and identify opportunities to enhance campus safety. We are sharing the report so our community can understand what the reviewers found, where improvements are needed, and how UVU is moving forward. And you can read the entire report on PDF on Utah Valley University's website. It goes on to say a commitment to our community. September 10th will always be part of UVU's history, but it will not define a lot of the university. our future. Our responsibility is to care for our community, learn from the findings of this review, and follow through honest recommendations. This requires humility and honest examination

of our policies and practices and a commitment to act on what we learn. While we've made meaningful progress in strengthening campus safety over the past year, this review provides additional recommendations that will continue to guide our work as we move forward with care, civility, and resilience. And that is from UVU President John Anderson. So this is what this is just kind of the brief synopsis of what the review found. The independent external review identified a foundation of campus safety policies, personnel, and resources, along with inconsistencies and how those capabilities were put into practice before and during the September 10th event. It also recognized the strength of the response by public safety partners and meaningful steps

UVU has taken since this tragedy. The review also documented the planning and coordination leading up to September 10th, including the following. The event, originated with a July 2025 request form, or sorry, from UVU's Turning Point USA student chapter for Charlie Kirk to speak in Fountain Courtyard. In an August 21st questionnaire response, TPSA projected approximately 600 attendees and reported no security concerns. Now, this is interesting because Candace says here that it was not from the chapter, it was actually Turning Point USA headquarters, is the one that actually reached out and said, we need

to get this rally or this speaking engagement for Charlie Kirk on September 10th. I think the headquarters reached out through the chapter president. Okay. So at an August 25th planning meeting, UVU participants raised concerns about the outdoor location. Anticipated attendance, protest activity, crowd management, and access control and suggested alternative venues. TPUSA requested that the event remain in the courtyard and preferred to manage us on ticketing. The university's committee allowed those arrangements during subsequent six. security coordination ticket totals were not available, and thus UVU police chief was unable to obtain

crowd estimates through TPUSA's ticketing process. The report's timeline also documents communication between UVUPD and Turning Point USA began on September the 3rd, and then on September 8th, Turning Point USA security team raised a concern about access to elevated Hall of Flags outdoor pedestrian walkway above the area where Kirk would speak and requested access controls. On the morning of September 10th, TPUSA security team again raised concerns about people on the walkway. Chief Long responded to officers would arrive by 11 a.m. to address the request. UVU UPD officers cleared the area by directing people around and away from the area directly above the speaking location and blocked it off with the police tape. The UVUPD chief of police proposed meeting with Turning Point USA security at 11 a.m.

on the walkway above the canopy where Charlie Kirk would speak, but this. this meeting did not occur. A detailed timeline and verbatim text exchanges are included in the full report. Beyond document and the sequence of events, the review examined UVU's planning preparedness response and recovery and identified key findings. And this says after action report for Utah Valley University, quote, it is the opinion of the project team based on our review of all available information that at no time during the events leading up to the assassination of Charlie Kirk or in its aftermath, did any employer

agent of UVU act in bad faith or in willful and wanton disregard for the safety of others. So according to this independent review team that, I mean, it's not really, I guess you can say it's an internal review. It's UVU that went out to get an independent auditing company to actually do the investigation. And so according to them, everything that they saw did not show UVU in any fault, at least willfully. So what Candace Owens was going through in this report shows, lot that kind of gets put back on turning point USA and there's just a lot to talk about here so i guess

what i want to go ahead and do is i want to play the first clip of kandis owens and what she says about this listen i want you to put in a request for charlie to speak in the courtyard this is massive okay i cannot say to you enough i cannot underscore enough how massive this revelation is you are about to be hit with so much paid propaganda online to lie to you about what's in this document, so much so that you shouldn't even just take this episode. You should read it yourself in its entirety. You should read it in its entirety. But I want to highlight the opinion of the project team, and its executive summary at the top

on page 10. Scroll down to the blue in the middle there. It is the opinion right there. It is the opinion of the project team based on our review of all available information that at no time during the events leading up to the assassination of Charlie Kirk or in its aftermath, did any employee of, or agent of UVU act in bad faith or in willful and wanton disregard for the safety of others. With the benefit of hindsight, however, the project team identified several actions, omission,

circumstances, and institutional practices that warrant attention as UVU considers how to strengthen the safety and security of campus events in the future. So they are saying, this is our summary. They count contrary to what Erica tried to very quickly, the Kirk family tried to quickly file. our assessment is nobody at UVU acted in bad faith or in disregard for the safety of others, but we are going to make some suggestions for the future of how they could learn and strengthen the policies that are already on the books. Okay.

Now, I want to talk also about this major events assessment committee. Actually, yeah, let's go to page 11. I haven't been telling you guys about this. There was this Microsoft Teams meeting that took place. They have assessed on page 11 that this did take place, but it was Turning Point USA that wanted to have this event outside. We're going to talk more about that. The MEAC, that's the major events planning committee. And we're going to learn that Turning Point Security did not take place in this.

But it tells us here that the MEAC process was initiated on August 21st to determine whether or not the event should proceed. identify security concerns. However, several key event security decisions were deferred to Turning Turning Point USA's field representative, even though UVU staff members raised concerns, including concerns related to holding the event in the outdoor fountain courtyard area and using Turning Point USA's ticketing process. Turning point preferred to hold the event in the fountain courtyard and to use its own ticketing system rather than the university system. Those decisions placed the event in an area that was more difficult to control and limited UVU's ability to obtain reliable real-time information regarding anticipated attendance and crowd size. Because the event was

held on UVU's campus, UVU should have retained decision-making authority over key security-related issues, including the venue selection, the ticketing and access control, and other conditions that were necessary to support campus safety. Okay. I want to park that in the back of your mind, Okay. Let's go to the timeline on page 17. I love a timeline. They put together a timeline and this, I could not get over the first entry on this timeline. You will recall that very shortly after trial assassination, I said this event came together too quickly. Something is not right. And we were having a very hard time determining who requested this event. Do you remember they sent out Ali Stuckey, who has never headlined a tour with Charlie Kirk. She shares a, an ex-correspondence

between her and Andrew putting together an event last second for this exact tour as evidence that I'm somehow lying. I mean, what absolutely terrible human being, this girl is. I truly, like, I'm so sickened. I was so angry thinking through the amount of people that Charlie has helped in their career and how quickly they turned their back on him. So I noted to you, I said, who requested this event? Because the way it normally works is every single Turning Point USA chapter, separate from

National wants Charlie Kirk, Candace Owens, wants they, they want you to come to their campus. So they put in a request to Turning Point National and Turning Point National does their best. And typically the consideration is, has Charlie done this university in the past? How big is this university? How is the club performing? They'll also reward on the basis of how the independent clubs are performing. Okay. This year you're going to get Candace.

You're going to get Charlie Kirk. You're going to get this speaker. you're going to get this speaker. How can we divvy it up? Are the headliners available on those certain dates? And it is a process that takes place, as I said to you guys, the semester before, at a minimum, at a bare minimum, because the wait list is long. Of course, every chapter president wants to host them.

And I said, something is not right about how this event came together. Lo and behold, we finally get an answer. Let's go to the timeline. I'm shocked at this end. We learn that on July 10th, 2025, at the request of Turning Point USA's field representative, that's Macy Crofts. That means this was a complete flip. Turning Point USA reached out to a club president and said, hey, we want you to put in a request

for Charlie to speak in the courtyard. This is massive. Okay. I cannot say to you. I cannot underscore enough how massive this revelation is. This is not how events come together at Turning Point USA. They don't say, you put in the request and we want it in the fountain area. And let me tell you how insane this is beyond that.

They included Caleb's email in here. Caleb's email requesting Caleb Chilichit, the club president, requesting this event. And he didn't even know why he was requesting it. stunning. We're going to now, if you don't, guys don't mind pivoting. Let's go to page 39 where we can actually or it might be bought a page 40. I think it's page 309 where we could actually read.

No 40. Give me 40 page 40. The email. I think that's important for us to pivot to. Here it is. This is the verbatim email from Turning Point USA, UVU's club president to UVU club services. He wrote to them, My field representative for Turning Point USA has asked me to reach out to UVU Club Department

to ask about availability on hosting an event on the courtyard on September 10th from 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. She, referring to Macy Crofts, is being quite vague on what this event is. So unfortunately, this is all the information I have in regards to it. Are you able to tell me if this space, so she wanted it in the courtyard, Macy Crofts, It has to be in the courtyard, doesn't tell much else. Can you let me know if this space is currently available for the date and time? Quarters came to a club president and said, contact them immediately, see if the space is available, and it's got to be in the courtyard.

I'm like, I can't explain to you. Like, I'm like on the brink of tears realizing this. I told you there was something suspicious about how this event came together. that right there is suspicious. Just do it. Just email and see if we can be in the courtyard. He doesn't even know what's going on. She's being vague.

Why is she being vague? Why is she being vague? I have an idea why she might have been being vague. But I'm going to show you the Charlie Kirk timeline of what's going on in his life after we get through this. Let's go back up to that timeline if you guys don't mind. The timeline on the bottom of page 17. I mean, on page 17. Okay.

So that's July 10th. On July 18th is when he formerly, maybe he got more details from Macy, submits an event request. And the event is described as an appearance by Charlie Kirk to discuss current events. And that ticketing is going to be handled by Turning Point USA. It's going to be external. The university will not have oversight over it. On July 28th, the club's office advises that Turning Point USA's club and annual registration had to be completed. So they came back to them and they said, actually, you haven't even submitted your annual

club form. So you're not officially a club yet. So they got that done in the back end. So the event is not been approved. They are just suggesting that they want to do this event. And then after they submit that registration on August 21st, the club's office tentatively approves the event. They forward it to event services as a major event. So M-E-A-M-A-C is going to have to get involved. And at that time, in response to UVUs questionnaire, TPSA told them it was going to be 600 attendees. That's going to be relevant later because when we say TPSA, we mean once again Caleb Chilicott had no idea what was going on, which means he was not in control of ticketing. That is also unusual. Okay.

Turning Point USA National is handling the registrations. We're going to learn that elsewhere in this document. They say on August 21st, it's going to be six. and then they offer to connect UVUPD with Turning Point USA security, said that they had no risk factor for safety or security. That's all very interesting. Turning Point USA is the one that reached out to the chapter president. And I say quote unquote chapter president because they weren't a chapter whatsoever. When Turning Point USA reached out and leading up to the September 10th assassination of Charlie Kirk, Turning Point, U.S.

they told him, hey, you got to get your paperwork in because you're not even a chapter yet. Just get that shit in quick because we got to have this happen on September 10th. And so the club chapter president at Utah Valley University had no idea what the hell this thing was even about because they were being so vague about why they wanted to hold an event on Utah Valley University campus on September 10th. They didn't even know it was about Charlie Kirk whatsoever. Not until months later or a couple of months later. They finally found out that no, it's Charlie Kirk that's going to come speak. And then on top of that, once they find out, they specifically, Turning Point USA, request the courtyard. It is at this time, Utah Valley University, along with the police department at Utah Valley University,

and I'm sure other security council members go back to Turning Point USA after discussing the location of where Turning Point USA wants this event to be held. And they say, this is not safe. This is not the place we need to have this event. there are many other places on campus that are much safer because in the courtyard, there's just too many lines of fire, especially if you're going to put Charlie Kirk right here at the head of the courtyard. This is not a safe place to do this. But what a turning point USA do? They insisted, no, we have to have Charlie Kirk in the courtyard on September 10th make it happen. And so they said, okay, well, if that's what you want to do, then I guess we have no choice, really.

So it sounds like there was a lot of pressure from Turning Point USA to Utah Valley University to make September happen, September 10th happen in the courtyard. No exceptions. Although Utah Valley University continually told them, no, I don't think this is a good idea. This is not a safe place to do this. I think we should hold it somewhere else. And as a matter of fact, I believe they wanted to hold this whole entire event indoors because it would be a safer place for Charlie Kirk to be. and it'll be more regulated and there won't be as many opportunities for somebody to get elevated to shoot down off a building.

Yeah. Now, you're 100% right. And then the other thing, too, you got to keep in mind. It's just like Candice Owen said, you know, usually they plan this stuff six to eight months in advance. And it's not Turning Point USA that reaches out to the chapters at the universities. It is the other way around. There are chapters across the country that continually reach out to turn a point.

Point USA to request Charlie Kirk or other speakers, mostly Charlie Kirk, but there have been chapter presidents that have come out and said, especially the past two or three days, some of these chapter presidents are now resigned. Some of them are actually still active, but they have come out and said that they have requested Charlie Kirk up to 15 times in a year and never get Charlie Kirk, because he obviously was one of the most sought after speakers, period. And especially anybody in Turning Point USA, he's literally the founder, the builder of this company. Yeah, I just think it's very odd that all the sudden national turning point USA is requesting that they are at this university when it's just the opposite all the time. It just makes no sense to me. And it just seems very fishy.

Yeah. That it went the other way around because you think about it. There are universities like Chad said all over the country that are begging for him or Candace Owens to come speak. So why would they request that? Well, unless they had something planned, unless they had something up their sleeve unless when this thing that they were planning was coming together, they saw that this date was the perfect timing. They had everything ready for this date. So they had to push this through as soon as possible. And keep it in mind, guys, turning point USA is not at all over the past four or five days denying that they usually take six to eight months of planning to make stuff like this happened. They're also not denying that it's 99.9% of the time the chapters of the universities

that actually reach out to Turning Point USA and not the other way around. Or, I mean, I'm telling you, they would be saying this shit all over the internet if otherwise it was true. The problem is, is that there are X chapter presidents that are coming out and literally saying the exact same thing Candace Owens is saying and saying, this is absolutely not the way we have ever done this. and it is very strange that it happened this way on the event where Charlie Kirk was assassinated and where nothing is adding up. And then if you think about it, like how Turning Point USA has acted ever since Charlie Kirk was assassinated. And it's funny, I watched a video the other day.

It was a clip. And it was Charlie Kirk in the opening monologue probably about a month before he was assassinated. And the actual caption over the video says, this is the moment that Charlie Kirk realized that the people that he thought were loyal to him and had his back were really corrupt and turning against him. Leading up to his assassination, we've read the text messages about, you know, he thinks that someone's going to kill him. He feels like he's not going to live very long.

He basically was turning on Israel. They were putting so much pressure on him and basically saying, you know, do this or else. We heard about the meeting and the Hamptons to where people surrounded Charlie Kirk. They tried to say that was a lie, but they've never proven that was a lie. Charlie Kirk himself had been on multiple podcasts. Megan Kelly, Patrick Bet David, his own show, talking about things and I guess issues he had with BB Netanyahu and Israel and the whole narrative around October 7th. And he had even spoken about the fact that it just doesn't sound right that October 7th happened,

considering Charlie Kirk himself said, I have been to Israel. Like you can't walk anywhere there without the IDF. Everywhere. Every square inch of that place is the IDF. And somehow you're telling me that over six to eight hours that they just let this happen and there was no IDF anywhere to be found, that was one of the first things he started saying. And then I think he had a lot of pushback after that. That's when they started really putting a lot of pressure on him. And he started seeing things a lot differently. And that's when he started coming out and speaking out about it on podcast because I think that he was worried for his safety based on the shit that he was going through.

because of Israel. And there were there were times that it seemed like he was expressing those concerns, even on podcast episodes, that obviously the mainstream media and all of the Turning Point USA cult members are trying to cover and bury for you never to see again. But I do want to play this next clip because Candace Owens talked specifically about how Turning Point USA is trying to ruin the police chief's life. Said earlier that Charlie Kirk's family is sue in Utah Valley University,

the police chief, a couple of other people. and don't think that Turning Point USA has not been involved in that lawsuit. I'm not necessarily saying that there are attorneys that are suing Turning Point USA or the police chief, but don't think that Turning Point USA's attorneys probably didn't pressure the Kirk family to do exactly what they're doing with the lawsuits. Here is Candace Owens talking about the police chief. UVU is the one that decides, hey, we should up the security presence here. That's stunning. That is damning.

It is contrary to everything that they have told us as they have. tried to paint it as though UVUPD is who failed on that day. So on August 21st, event services then emails everyone that's required on their end to attend the major events committee meeting. And that is when the first time, now it's been approved tentatively, that Jeff Long, the chief of police at UVU, became aware of the event. Now, he is a crucial name because they have been throwing so much dirt on his name that when I got through this document, I don't see how he doesn't sue. I would, I would sue not just Turning Point USA. I would sue the university for allowing this narrative. I mean, Brian Harpole is out there saying that, oh, this is the text

message. You've got them saying security failed. Erica is filing a thing. They're pointing, I'm pretty sure she explicitly named Jeff Long in that filing. By the time you get through to this, you're going to be like, I cannot believe the audacity of that. And you just have to be a sociopath to want to ruined this person's life knowing what you knew. Okay. Turning Point knew that it was them that orchestrated every aspect of this event. Turning Point headquarters. This was not a slip up even on the chapter. So I am saying Caleb Chilicate did nothing wrong. Okay. He's a chapter president. Headquarters is telling him what to do. He's at an age where he's young and dumb and he wants to be favored. Right. Oh, a little stroke on the, Erica's going to bring you on stage and give you an award.

he's an idiot, maybe. That's the worst thing he's done. He's an idiot. He's a useful idiot for Turning Point USA headquarters. But Jeff, Chief Long? Yeah, by the time you get through this, you're going to be thinking he should sue Turning Point USA for allowing for an entire year for people to think

that he was the reason. That's explicitly what Brian Harpole said. What am I supposed to do with that? UVU police did this. They did that. Well, now we have an independent review. Let's keep going here. So we now know this is the first time he finds out August 21st.

And then you get this entry here, which is that instantly this was flagged by UVU. They have a free speech committee and they flag it because they say we're going to anticipate protests and they have reviewed insights from prior turning point appearances, including an appearance of Charlie Kirk at UVU in 2019 with me, by the way. That was with me. And we did have protesters. And me and Charlie sat on the floor. went through the protesters. So they're going, we're going to, we expect some action here. That's UVU that's saying that. Not turning point security. Then they have this mysterious entry that Brian Harpole stated in a public podcast on Sean Ryan that he first had a meeting

at September on September 10th. And they, that's when they started getting things together. Remember that Sean Ryan interview. But guess what? You have no idea was talking about. We're going to learn about that. They have no idea we're talking about because they weren't involved. The committee meeting, the major events assessment committee meeting, which happened just four days after the, Jeff Long learned about this, took place on August 25th. Guess who didn't attend this meeting? Not a single member of Turning Point Security attended this crucial meeting, but they tell us what happened.

UVU participants raised concerns about the outdoor courtyard location that Macy insisted on, the anticipated attendance, the protest activity, the crowd management, the ability to control access. This is the meeting. the security should have been a part of. And Macy said, no. We want the event to remain in the fountain courtyard, despite the concerns and suggestions of alternative venues,

turning point preferred that they, from the beginning. They didn't have a plan and even know what they were doing, but they did know that it needed to be done in that fountain courtyard. Okay. TPSA advised UVU that it would have approximately eight security personnel. And at that moment, and again, they spoke independently of other people on the phone. They've done, conducted interviews. this has taken a year, Chief Long requested contact with that security leadership.

So Chief Long is requesting on August 25th. We are now T minus 15 days and where's the security contacting him and asking about specs? We continue. We now learn that on the 25th, the venue selection remained, that's obviously crucial, that there was going to be no control in terms of protest activity. crowd management and access control. I mean, there just, there was no controllability. But that's what turning point wanted.

Then we learn that the free speech committee discussed possible EOC activation again. That's all happening during that meeting. And then I'm a 27th is when it's formally approved. And that's what I was saying is that they were not promoting this event. Everything was happening wadley in the day. It's insane that 3,000 people attended. And it gets approved. They start monitoring,

and concerns on August 29th, the free speech committee really went above and beyond here. And they had an anonymous caller that demanded that the event be canceled. UVU President Tumanez requested updates regarding event planning on the 31st. The free speech committee kept monitoring that activity. Notice, we're not seeing anything about what Turning Point USA was doing here. On September 2nd, Chief Long goes, hey, man, we're a week away from this event. And no security, I've received no security request from. turning point USA. I saw a point of contact. We had the M.EAC on the 25th.

that he, nobody was on that from security. We just had Macy Crofts. Hey, can, can I get a point of contact on their security team? And then finally, finally we learned that on September 3rd, T-minus seven days from the event, for the first time, Dan Flood and Chief Long get on the phone for just five minutes in 28 seconds. And Chief Long, asks Flood what Turning Point USA needs. And Dan Flood is focusing on, as I told you, the arrival, the departure, and the parking logistics. They were really concerned about Charlie's SUV having a clean exit.

And then he told him that Turning Point will typically have anywhere between 8 and 10 security personnel. Then they had a follow-up call, which lasted just 48 seconds on the same day on the third. and Chief Long and Dan Flood were talking about ticketing. And guess what Dan Flood says? He says, national office is handling ticketing. Tickets totals are not available. We can't tell you anything.

T minus 7 days, we can't tell how many people are going to come here. And so how could Chief Long be prepared for a crowd? The last update he's been told by Turning Point National is that it's 600 people. and Dan Flood, the chief security person is telling him, yep, sorry. That's it. We don't have, we have a, we got nothing. Got no updates here. Okay.

We now have. I want to pause for just a second because this is going to go on just for a few more minutes, but I don't want to forget a couple of the points that she has made here. And I was meaning to talk about this earlier. The ticketing thing is in. interesting how turning point USA wants to handle the ticketing, which is also not usual. Utah Valley University themselves says typically we handle ticketing for events like this, but Turning Point USA said, nope, we're handling it.

And actually, they didn't really even know for sure who was handling ticketing. I guess Utah Valley University just thought, well, we're going to handle ticketing because it was September 3rd at this time that the chief of security for Charlie Kirk talked with the police chief of Utah Valley University for five minutes. And that's when he makes him aware. Oh, by the way, we're handling the ticketing. So don't worry about it. And obviously the police chief's like, well, we need to know like how many people's coming.

Like, how are we supposed to prepare or plan for this if we have no idea how many are coming? The other interesting thing I looked up on the break or just a few minutes ago while Candace was talking, how ticketing actually works at Turning Point USA events. and the interesting thing is, yes, typically universities actually are the ones that handle the ticketing for events like this. It's not usual that Turning Point USA handles this. Number two, why does that matter? Well, most universities, including Utah Valley University, when you get a ticket for an event,

they get your information, right? They get your name. Usually you have to show a driver's license or a proof of ID. They get an email, a phone number. etc, et cetera, right? In the event something happens or whatever the case is, they at least have on record who attended the event. Now, why would that matter?

Well, because number one, how many people in the crowd, I believe there was two, one of them being, one of the older guys said, oh, I shot him, I shot him, which led all of the police to this dude, took all of the attention off of the tent where Charlie Kirk was actually dead on the ground and they were moving around and doing all kinds of shit. behind the tent, which I find interesting.

And at first you think, well, there were people in the crowd that was drawing attention to themselves to allow the shooter to get away. But what if the person in the crowd was actually drawing attention to himself to allow whatever the hell was going on around the tent and elsewhere to happen without the police swarming that area, right? That's one thought. But number two, if turning point USA is handling the ticketing, then certain, people that may have attended that day are not going to be on record potentially, or at the very

least, they don't have to be on record if Turnpoint USA don't want them to be because they're the ones that are in control of the ticketing. And so whereas there was only supposed to be 600 people of this event, there's over 3,000 people now. And I would just like to know if Turning Point USA actually has a record of everybody that was at this event. Because to me, if you look at the way this event looked, whether it was after the fact or before or during his speech, there are are students that are walking in and out of the breezeways. There's people coming out of rooms and hallways. These people didn't have tickets. They didn't buy tickets this shit. These are students that are just coming out of doors, coming into the courtyard. I guarantee you they don't have tickets,

right? I bet Tyler Robinson didn't have a ticket either. Oh, of course not. But I also guarantee the guy that was drawing attention to himself, didn't have ticket. The other guy that was also drawing attention to himself, which by the way, we've barely heard anything about, but I 100% remember. that during this time there was the dude that they arrested, which also was a guy that was around 9-11 when it happened. He was around some other bombings and shit that have happened in the United States, very interestingly enough. But also there was another guy.

I remember mainstream media reporting that day. There was another guy that was saying that he shot Charlie Kirk. And it was like four or five rows up above where this other dude was. I remember watching it live here in this. And I remember the police running over to someone else. three, you know, I guess ledges up and they were dealing with someone else. Now, I think they let that guy go and they arrested the other guy. But either way, I just want you to understand that's likely why Turning Point USA wanted

to handle ticketing. The police chief and Utah Valley University have multiple meetings leading up to September 10th. They try to get Turning Point USA security involved, which they do not show up. They do not answer any calls or emails back whatsoever until September 10th. 3rd, just a few days before the actual event. And they talked for five minutes and then 48 seconds another time. And this is basically just for Turning Point USA security to make the police chief aware that he's not in control of anything.

And they're going to handle everything, which is basically nothing, right? Yeah, they didn't even talk about the security of the actual event. All they talked about was arrivals, departures and making sure that Charlie Kirk's SUV had a free way to get out of there. Yeah. And that is shady to me. Yeah. It's very, very interesting.

More specifically, was it because of, you know, I mean, obviously they're going to say, well, it's because if an emergency happens, we got to know that we have a clear path out and all that shit. But they probably just wanted to make sure they had a clear path out regardless of however that day went down. But who plans a event for 3,000 people and doesn't have an official meeting? You have a five-minute phone call? Like, who does that? That does not make sense to me at all.

No, but listen, I think it's because Turning Point USA, if at all they were involved in this in any way, shape, or form, they wanted to be as absolutely vague as possible for various reasons. Number one, if they didn't talk to the police chief and they didn't coordinate with Utah Valley University and all of these things, then in their mind, they were probably thinking, well, we can just blame it on them once this shit goes down and say, well, we never talked to them. They didn't do anything to check this or check that or coordinate anything. That was their plan because, by the way, over the

past year, that's what Turning Point USA has been doing. They've been accusing Utah Valley University and the police chief of completely dropping the ball. They didn't do this and they didn't do that. And Erica Kirk has basically said the exact same thing. But now that we're hearing this report, it looks like it was 100% the opposite. It was Turning Point USA that did nothing for Charlie's security at all. Well, and we got to think about this too. If UVU was preparing for 600 people and they told Turning Point USA straight up, we have eight personnel. Yeah. We have eight people that are going to be managing the crowd.

Eight. Do you think eight people is enough for 3,000 people? Well, look, here's the thing, though. This is what you have to think about. The reason why planning is everything, and especially in events like this, and especially on the law enforcement side, is because if you have like eight cops or whatever it is that's on duty or going to be there that day, they can handle probably 600 people. That's not that big of a deal, right?

But it sounds like if you're going to be a conspiracy theorist with this thing, that Turnpoint USA's goal with handling the ticketing and being very vague with how many people is going to show up, their goal was to overwhelm the police department with so many damn people that when all of this shit went down, they could coordinate and do the things that they needed to do. Meanwhile, the police are going to be completely inundated with 3,000 plus people that they were absolutely not preparing for and better yet then as soon as the shot happens you have this guy in the crowd that's then taking all the attention to him and then you have another guy the police

run over there and all this while all this shit that's going on behind the tent which there's a lot of stuff there's new videos that have come out over the past few days that make this shit look even weirder like one of the security guys and i think it might have been harpole that that leans down as soon as charlie kirk hits the ground he leans down and i think it's dan flood or i'm not 100% positive who it is, but it's one of Charlie Kirk's other security guys. He runs around where Harpole is. And as he's running around him, Harpole is kind of bent down, attending to Charlie. The other guy runs behind Harpole.

And as Harpole was literally going down to the ground, this guy is grabbing something in Harpole's left side under his shirt. And he is turning it like a knob of some kind. And he's doing that all nonchalantly, but he literally has his right hand as he's running around him. He grabs whatever's under Harpole's shirt and he's pressing a button or turning a knob. Was that the button to call Ben Shapiro? I don't know. No.

No, it was something to activate, deactivate, or do something. And we've never seen that security footage before until just the past couple of days. And I do encourage you guys to go and watch that because obviously that's also very suspect as well. Let's listen to more of Candace. We're looking at another key decision point on September 8th. TPSA security is now concerned about, what do they say? The pedestrian walkway access above the area where Charlie Kirk's canopy was to be placed. And this, my friends, is why I think turning point USA executives are, I mean, it just, like, you want to talk about demonic possession.

You have kept up this lie. you allowed Brian Harpole to tell this lie and Erica reinforced this lie in that recent filing, that the Kirk family reinforced this lie and that recent filing that this text communication between Dan Flood was not about the canopy, but more broadly speaking, was about rooftops. And I told him from the beginning, this was a lie that Brian Harpo was telling. He was not only lying by omission by pretending these were his messages, what am I supposed to do with that? He says to Sean Ryan.

Nothing. because it's not your text message. It's a communication between Dan Flood and a communication between him and Jeff Long about particularly, amazingly, the two things they're concerned with is a clean exit for Charlie, Charlie's vehicle, and what's happening above Charlie's head. The exact, ironically, that's going to be where people would reasonably see someone on a Losey Center. They want that clear.

and they want a clean exit. That's it. We are told that Dan initiated that text exchange on September 8th, T minus two days regarding, again, the accessibility of that canopy area above the Hall of Flags. And that is when Jeff Long said, we got you covered in reference to, they make it clear, the Hall of Flags outdoor pedestrian walkway. Free speech committee is still monitoring. They're still doing their job.

I give the Free Speech Committee. and A++, by the way. And then we now have incident day. Now, I'm not going to get into the emergency response because that's a huge part of this report. And I want to make sure that I have time to separately go through that because some of it's irrelevant. They're making recommendations about what could happen in the future. A lot of it is not relevant to what we are trying to figure out, which is what took place on that day and which should have been told to us from Turning Point USA.

Right. So we're now incident day on September 10th. And we learn that Chief Long contacts the Utah SIAC regarding an anonymous threat. That threat is a shocking threat that we're going to get into later. It's a threat about EMPs. EMPs. Where did we learn about EMPs and whose family was super involved with EMPs? Lori France, Faye EMPs.

I'm very interested in that 723 a.m. threat. We'll talk about that in a bit. 9 a.m. The security arrives to campus. they've done nothing. They have not been there. They've had a couple of communications the day before with Chief Long, and Chief Long does not meet them until 9 o'clock a.m. They weren't even trying to come at 7 a.m. to get a lay of a land. Nothing. At 904, Dan Flood, text Chief Long, advising that the rest of the security has arrived onto campus. Chief Long engages in a series of

text communications with Flood to include several regarding individuals that are located on that Hall of Flags pedestrian walkway. They're really concerned. They don't want anybody up there across from a Losey Center. Now, you could say it's because they're worried people are going to throw stuff on Charlie's head. Yeah, that's reasonable too. That's a reasonable conclusion. You don't want somebody just above Charlie's head. But that's their main focus. And the text, it says, these text exchanges reveal we're going to read through them that the primary security focus for Turning Point USA was the Hall of Flags outdoor pedestrian walkway. We're going to be able to read through those messages. So there's no question anymore that that was Dan Flood's main focus. And we learn,

I want to point out 928 and 1028. Additional Charlie Kirk staff arrive onto campus at 928. And then an hour later, additional Charlie Kirk staff arrive onto campus. Now, when I read that, it's because they have call times. So my assumption, and this is me reading into it, is that at 9 a.m., that was the security call time. At 928, you have some staff, and I don't know what's that going to be. Is that going to be social media, but also at 1028, you have additional staff. My issue immediately, what I'm thinking about when I look at that is we are told that Tyler Robinson is going to go up to a girl. I know it's a girl.

I know who the girl is. And she's involved in social media. And he's going to leave, he leaves campus by what, Ashley, like 933 he pulls out of campus, 924. So unless this girl arrived with security. at 904, I am very interested in determining when the group of girls arrived, because that is very interesting. If Tyler Robinson has to go up to anybody before 928, it's likely just security.

They may have missed this. Now, maybe they did come a little earlier for some reason, but I just wanted to point that out that it makes that interesting, that entry interesting, Emma Tyler Robinson timeline. Of course, we then know what happens is there's going to be all this back forth between Dan Flood and Chief Long because, lo and behold, there are some people that are protesting up there before the event gets started and they have a communication.

Jeff, Chief Long requests that the UVUPD detective, along with a sergeant and additional officer, oh, I'm sorry, the initial UVUPD staff, including Chief Long, one patrol officer and one reserve officer, after observing the crowd size. That's a crucial entry at 11 a.m. So it was actually UVU that requested more people after observing the crowd size an hour ahead. They're like, what, we were told 600. This looks like it's 3,000. We need to up the crowd size. Turning Point USA did not request that. So they're there. They are obsessing things. And at no point did they communicate now that they're in communication, like, hey, we might need some more people.

We weren't expecting this many people. It also tells us that at 1049, Chief Long texted Dan Flood to meet at the Hall of Flags outdoor at 11. But the meeting did not occur. So UVU requested that they have a little powwow before. It doesn't happen. And UVU is the one that suggests after observing the crowd size that day, which would have been the only time they could have observed it

because Turning Point USA was in charge of. of registration, UVU is the one that decides, hey, we should up the security presence here. That's stunning. That is damning. It is contrary to everything that they have told us as they have tried to paint it as though UVUPD is who failed on that day, failed Charlie Kirk on that day. They're telling us who went up to the Hall of Flags and dealt with the protesters. That's between 1120 and 1130 and that the protesters.

did move away, and then the officers blocked them off with security tape, which we saw so that they couldn't run over, and those are the communications that Dan Flood has with him. Then at 1130, Chief Long goes up to the second floor of the Fugel Gateway Building because he established a command post because that building allows them to see everything. It gives them visibility over the entire event area. Guess who didn't join him in that command post? Any member of Turning Point USA's security team. I'm going to show you where that Fugel building is. That'd be a good place to be.

If you wanted to be high up, they take that top floor. They're observing what's happening below. That would be a good place to send one of your 12 men. If you were curious what was going on beneath and you wanted to have a good eyesight line, but they did not. So there you go.

And it sounds like that Turning Point USA was only concerned about the place right above Charlie Kirk's head. And then you got to ask yourself, why would they be so concerned about just that place? And especially if you are looking out from the position of where Charlie Kirk was sitting of all of the rooftops within sight to where a shooter could get on top of that roof and take Charlie out, which is literally like security 101, VIP Protection 101. And we know that a lot of Charlie Kirk security guys are ex-intelligence, probably. current intelligence, many of them from Mossad or Israel. But you know stuff like this, right? And this is something, it's just like the attempted assassination on Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania.

They literally saw the guy on the roof. This is Secret Service. Yeah. People were yelling at them. There's somebody on the roof. Nobody did anything. Yeah, the cops knew. The cops even had saw him on the roof or were trying to make their way up to the roof.

Secret Service knew this the entire time, but allowed this guy. this guy to take the shots. And it's like, you got to ask yourself how many coincidences can possibly be, right? And even that particular event, it was like someone had told somebody, hey, look, when this guy comes on the roof, let him shoot. Like, do not hit him. Only hit him after he takes those two or three shots. Once Trump went down, once he had his ear grazed or whatever to hell happen, that's when

finally Secret Service took the shot. And at this point, Crooks had already taken out the Corey Comparatory guy had hit Trump's ear. I think he'd also hit like a tractor hydraulic line behind or I guess a cross stage stage left area of where Trump was as well. But this stuff is just not all. They're just not coincidences. And just like Thomas Crooks, like how he was actually training on a government range essentially, Department of Homeland Security firing range, which I guess can be open to the public as well. But just the whole Thomas Crook's things don't make sense.

I mean, you know, how his house looked like a freaking demo house when they went in. And, you know, he basically didn't have any spoons or forks or anything in his drawers. And it looked like it was just a non-lived-in house. This guy had millions of dollars in offshore accounts. He was getting paid by somebody and probably another country is who he was getting paid by. And it's just like the same thing with the guy in Florida that was going to try to assassinate Trump and all of his weird connections to Ukraine. And he was a guy that was, I guess, kind of being the liaison of signing up U.S. soldiers and all this shit into the Ukraine war. And then find out he has connections also to Israel and a bunch of weird.

I mean, there's just too much weird shit that we just don't know. We don't know anything about crooks. We don't know anything about the guy in Florida. and we really don't know anything about Tyler Robinson. Tyler Robinson is going to be another guy that we're not going to know a damn thing about. And honestly, I know everybody's just waiting on Tyler Robinson's trial. I don't think he's going to make it to trial.

I really don't. I think that he will be taken out before he ever gets to trial. Or they're going to put it, they're going to get him in a position to where he takes a plea. That's what I think. And the reality is, is like, do you remember Sherry how, over the past year we've heard that number one Tyler Robinson confessed

to killing Charlie Kirk he confessed to his parents he told his parents yeah I killed Charlie Kirk he told him what gunny did it with the whole thing this is what mainstream media has told us this is what Cash Patel and you know all of them

have insinuated in most cases Dan Bongino all these people have said no Tyler Robinson confessed and there was a clip I saw today of Baron Coleman. Now, Baron Coleman is, I believe he's an ex-attorney. He now has a live show. He does once a week. And he's a guy that has been heavily researching the Charlie Kirk assassination alongside, you know, people like Candace. And Baron Coleman, as he has my respect, because this dude has come up with a lot of shit that no one else has. He has

has contacted and been in contact with people that no one else has, including Candace. He has talked with Tyler Robinson's family, right? So he has talked with them behind the scenes. And he, he knows of other people that have talked with Tyler Robinson's family and what their thoughts actually are and what actually was said from Tyler Robinson versus what was not said, according to what Main Street Media is trying to tell you is that he confessed, which is not true. So I want to play a clip of that real quick as a very short clip, but I want you to hear what Baron Coleman says about that. And if you can't talk about this, no problem. But have, Have you spoken with any sources in or around or in some way connected to the knowledge of like the thinking of his family and where they stand on whether or not at this point, whether or not they believe he actually did it?

Yes. They don't believe he did it. So is it fair to assume you're referring to like his mother and father don't believe that? Yeah. There's a guy on X. I know him. I believe him. I have personal knowledge that he has spoken to the grandmother. Okay. And that's well known. It's the grandfather's gun, right?

Yes. That was the alleged thing. Okay. Yeah. And he has spoken to the grandmother, and I've seen text messages between the, you know, family. They don't believe he did it. They deny that he confessed to them. They deny that he turned himself in because he was.

guilty. They don't think he did it. Now, did they think he did it at the time? No. They've never thought he did it. They never thought. And what's miraculous is that we get to the preliminary hearing, we've been told for 10 months by TPSA people, by their spokespeople, by their hangers on, their paid contributors. We've been told for 10 months that he confessed to his parents. And that's a key component of this. That's why we know he did it. He confessed to his parents. He turned himself in. He confessed to his parents. He turned himself in. We heard this for 10 solid months. we get to the preliminary hearing, they're not even on the witness list. Like, you talk about bulletproof probable cause.

If your mom gets on the stand and says, yeah, he told me he did it. Yeah, you're fucking. It's over. We don't need a trial. I mean, at that point, I'm going, well, maybe I'm wrong this whole time. Could part of it, I got to ask it this way is the devil's advocate, could part of it be like, there's no way my baby did that? And like, it's just setting in after enough time to think about it being like, you know what, I just don't believe it? If his parents told law enforcement that he did it, that would be documented.

If you put him on the stand and they deny that he said it, you impeach him with the documentation. He didn't tell him. I'm telling you. That is so much evidence that they've been lying to us this whole year. Otherwise, we would have heard from them. And so that's barren. And, you know, when you hear stuff like that, and like he said over the past year, we know for sure that media, Turning Point USA and basically everyone that's involved in this whole ordeal has been lying to the public's face over and over again.

And especially about the part that Tyler Robinson confessed to killing Charlie Kirk. And you've got to ask like, why would they do that? And specifically, it's like Turning Point USA, Erica Kirk and all of them. Like they have from day one said, no, this is absolutely Tyler Robinson. There is nobody else that we need to look at. this is the guy everybody else shut the hell up quit investigating we don't want you to look any further into this like why would you do that right that's that's just that's not something that's normal and i understand like if you think you have the guy okay but if you're going to lie about

the confession why do that especially yeah guys in the beginning who was the one that came out and said no he told his parents and his parents told a good friend and their good friend was law enforcement and he was the one that got him to turn himself in. Yeah. Yeah, that's exactly what was said. That was the official narrative. That was the story. That is the story that everybody has heard.

They have had it on every single Fox News nightly show. They've had all of the turning point USA spokespeople say this. They have had every conservative influencer saying this and pushing this. That has been the story. That is what the official timeline says that he basically put the gun in the woods. he then goes home, tells his parents that he killed Charlie Kirk. He then gets on telegram and acts like he's from the 1800s with his speech. My, he's like, my dear, my dear, I took the gun out of the, out of the whatever, the cupboard.

I'm so sorry, my dear. Yeah. I took the gun out of the cold. Yeah. I love you for eternity and I shall return or whatever or I shall never return. I will put the letter under your pillow. of my love I don't know dude

it's just it's just the craziest shit and it just none of it adds up none of it makes sense I wanted to play one more clip because this is also Baron Coleman on Danny Jones talking specifically about Google trends now this was something I had obviously seen

right after Charlie Kirk was assassinated this was all over X people had looked this up and we started to see Google Trends that was searching for certain topics prior to Charlie Kirk's assassination. Listen to what he says here. So after the Charlie Kirk thing the next day, he said, did you do that Google Trends thing on this shooter?

And I was like, no. He's like, you should. I was like, all right. So I kind of started running it, and I immediately saw so much weirdness. I thought, oh, my gosh, this is like the biggest signal I'd ever gotten on any one of these shootings ever. I mean, 8 o'clock the night before in Washington, D.C., people searching Thomas James Robinson, or Tyler James Robinson, excuse me.

The night before? Oh, yeah. Yeah, you should go back and watch some of those early shows. They are wild, the searches. And then... And you're doing this all live? I was prepping during the day and then doing a live show at night, yeah. Got it.

But at the time, I was only doing a show a week. So I would prep all week. I was still working full-time. So I'd prep all week in between things at work or at nights, evenings, weekends, whatever, and then I would do a Sunday night show on it. So the first one was pretty basic. It was just Tyler James Robinson, a few other names, really just looking in Utah, Washington, D.C., a few other places.

And then part of the analysis is you have to rule out that this isn't a common name that's searched all over the place. So you look in New York and Texas and California, is it showing up everywhere? Right. Because if not, now you might have something. But, man, the second or third show, I can't remember what it was. I started looking overseas, certain Middle Eastern countries, and I started seeing just every single name that I was plugging in was pinging over there. And they were all in a very tight window of June and July right before the September event.

What names were you searching? The medical examiner, the chief of public safety, the judge, the surgeons, the, the, judge, the surgeons, the defense attorneys, the roommate, I mean, everybody. Everybody involved in it seemed to be popping up in this area. And that's when it took a really weird turn. Because I'd seen where Ian Carroll said, oh, Israel must have done it, or other people were saying that. And so I thought, I wonder if they were searching.

And when I started seeing the bing, bing, bing, bing, I mean, just over and over and over. And the one that weirded me out the most, and I thought, all right, maybe I'll just give this whole thing up and stop. So it'll show you exactly what country those searches are coming from. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you can't say for certain. who is sitting at the computer terminal searching. Right.

You just know that there's somebody in this geographic boundary that an IP address originating that boundary. So if I set my VPN to Qatar, it's going to come out as if I'm searching from over there. But most people don't do that. Like if you're searching something, you just pick up your phone and punch it in and look, oh, okay, that's right. And what it made me wonder is,

and what I kind of wondered during the school shooters and mass shooters, is there some group of people that are sitting behind waiting to see, you know, what is out there on this person? What are people going to see when this news breaks? What are they going to find? What do we need to get out ahead of? What do we need to maybe mop up a little bit? You think they would do that more than 24 hours in advance? Well, I mean, but, you know, sometimes it's just a final.

Has he done anything this week's stupid? I don't know. Yeah, I guess. But it meant, I'm telling you, it was wild series. And that kind of landed on a few people's radars and the show sort of picked up from that. That's fucking bananas, dude. Yeah. And so what country specifically overseas?

It was Israel in front of it. Was there any other countries? Egypt hit quite a bit. Yeah. So there you go. And it's interesting it says Egypt because, you know, Candice did talk about the Egyptian plane, right? So that's kind of strange. But Israel as well, there were some also searches in Washington, D.C.

And keep in mind, guys, what specifically he's talking about. is Google Trends. And I know a lot about Google Trends. And I've talked about my marketing stuff in the past, but I know a lot about all the stuff as far as how searches act and how they're compiled and what the trending keywords are and how much they're searched and where they're searched from and how it picks all that stuff up. I mean, I have to know that stuff to run, you know, campaigns that are worth a lot of money. So the interesting thing is, yes, Barron Coleman was not the only one that pointed this out, but number one, Google Trends is 100% accurate as far as if you look up a certain term, you can see when that term has

been searched, right? So, for example, you might look up, say that you name your dog, like the weirdest damn name in the world, right? Whether it's a snumpy, luffagus pants. stuff you know stuffy lump against pants dog right and you type that into google trends you're not going to see a search for it i mean there there's not it google won't like put a arbitrary search out there like somehow someone's it's just not going to happen but not only that you can see how many times it's been searched you can see uh usually you can see around the time it is searched you can go back

six months a year however long that data is available you can go back and and you can put it on a graph. So if you look back for the year, you can see it looks like just a graph that goes up and down and how, and it'll have figures on the left side to show you how many times it's been searched.

And then you can narrow down into what country it's being searched from. And so you can look at the United States. You can look at the Middle East in its entirety and see what countries are being searched there. And so, yeah, Tyler Robinson was searched not only the night before in Israel

and Washington, D.C., and I also believe France and Egypt were two other places, which keeping in mind, those France and Egypt things could have been VPNs or they could have been someone from another country that was in France or Egypt at the time that was searching. It could have been an actual U.S. person, you know, whoever. But it wasn't just Tyler Robinson. It was literally the medical examiner, the doctors, the law enforcement people, like all of these names that were involved or around the Charlie Kirk assassination was not only searched. the night before, many of them were searched June and July leading up to September 10th assassination of Charlie. Now, also, think about this.

Think about this. We know based on those trend searches that this started, it appears, in June and July, predominantly in July. I think there was one or two searches in June, and then there was a pretty large group of searches in July. Now, what rings a bell about July? Do we remember anything about July? Well, that's when national headquarters.

quarters reached out to Caleb and said, hey, we need you to set up the courtyard because we're going to bring Charlie to your campus. Yeah. July of 2025. Yes. So, yeah. So at the same time that Turning Point USA is all of a sudden compiling at last minute, a meeting, reaching out to the Turning Point USA quote unquote president chapter, although they didn't

actually have a chapter because they didn't even have their paperwork submitted or done, they're reaching out at the exact same time that searches for basically everybody that was involved in around Charlie Kirk on the day that he was assassinated. These searches were pinging and not just Washington, D.C., but Israel. And by the way, this is actually not very uncommon. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. The same thing also happened for Thomas Crooks. Thomas Crooks was also searched in Israel. Thomas Crooks was also, I don't think Washington, D.C., actually, believe it or not.

But I know he was searched in Israel primarily, and there was some other country. I don't exactly remember. but he was searched like two to three weeks before and he was also searched six to eight months before that the interesting thing about the thomas crooks uh trend search was the fact that when they searched six to eight months before was around the same time that he was consistently going to the gun range that was primarily used by the department of homeland security there was also i believe the one thing that did come out about the offshore accounts that thomas crooks had that those accounts apparently were transferred around six to eight months.

So they were in an account that I guess could easily be, I guess, monitored by basically the U.S. government. And then around that six to eight month mark is when that money out of whatever, wherever that first account was, the millions of dollars was transferred to another account that makes it much harder for the United States government and other governments to be able to monitor that account. And that was six to eight months. Around the same time, the trend searches were going.

up. Okay. So this is not a coincidence. Well, this whole thing isn't a freaking coincidence. And you got to think about major events that I've

happened in America and around the world. You think about 9-11, for example, like the stock markets went crazy right before that. Or, you know, like a lot of people make money off these things. Yeah. You know, they were shorting

the airline companies, right? And they were doing this. I mean, it was an ABC Nightly News report. I can't remember what the guy's name was. the famous reporter, Peter, whatever his last name was. But either way, there was a big report on that. If you guys go back and listen to our 9-11 episode, you can go listen to the Richard Gage episode

or the one that we did after that, where we broke down the Fox News report about 9-11 and everything they talked about about 9-11. But there's a lot of things that when you look at them and actually look at them, that are not just, you know, crazy dude that decides to one day go and blow up a building, say like in Oklahoma City, for example.

We did an episode on that. You guys should listen to that as well. And listen, I'm not saying that every event that happens catastrophic is connected to a foreign country or the United States government or there's a big conspiracy behind it. But what I am telling you is that if you're talking about the Charlie Kirk assassination and everything that surrounds that assassination and that day and the way that the, event was coordinated and how it was set up and who was involved and the trending searches and and and just charlie kirk's own sentiment leading up to the september 10th there's no way you can

believe that's a coincidence and i want to play just a couple of clips because we're not going to be on here much longer but i want to play a couple of clips and everybody always ask well you know everybody wants to keep talking about israel when you talk about charlie kirk and all this stuff but this was charlie kirk just a couple of months before he was assassinated i'm going to play a couple of not just one, but I just want you to hear some of the things that he was saying leading up to September 10th. And I'll let you decide. Here you go. But the fact is now BB and the Israeli hard right government has a mandate.

I'm going to be careful the way I say this. They're going to try to ethnically cleanse Gaza. I mean, that's, and I don't use that term lightly. Okay. And Jewish donors, they have a lot of explaining to do, a lot of decoupling to do. Because Jewish donors have been the number one funding mechanism of radical open border neoliberal, quasi-Marxist policies, cultural institutions, and non-profits. This is a beast created by secular Jews. And now it's coming for Jews, and they're like, what on earth happened?

And it's not just the colleges. It's the nonprofits. It's the movies. It's Hollywood. It's all of it. It's like, time for you guys to wake up and say, no more. Draw a line in the sand. I don't care if you.

hate me. There's been many people in the Per Israel world that have been very sweet, very kind. And I, and I will say this, the behavior by a lot, both privately and publicly, are pushing people like you and me away. We're like, honestly, the way you are treating me is so repulsive. I have text messages, Megan, calling me an anti-Semite. I am learning biblical Hebrew and writing a book on the Shabbat. Charlie, what are you doing? Like, why are you? What am I doing? I'm sorry. Like, let's just take a step back here. Like, I'm an American citizen. My moral character is now being put into question, Megan. Not my decisions. Not like, hey, are you doing this? Is it smart or is it dumb? But no, I am a bad person if I do this. A claim I receive often is that Israel is committing genocide.

And one thing a friend sent to me, interestingly, which is, okay, Charlie, we've pushed back against the media on COVID, on lockdowns, on Ukraine, on... the border. Maybe we should also ask a question, is the media totally presenting the truth when it comes to Israel? Just a question, you know, that maybe we shouldn't believe everything the media says, because I know I've been conditioned to ask a lot more critical questions over the last couple of years.

The perception of legacy media is like owned by the Jews. I was going to say, Ben, come on. You Jews own the media, Ben. E. E.B. said, quote, you can't be MAGA if you're anti-Israel. I think you can have disagreements on Israel and still be MAGA, obviously. So that was just some of the clips that was probably in the last six months before Charlie was assassinated. And there are many other clips that you guys have probably seen.

If you haven't seen them, just go look up Charlie Kirk Israel or Charlie Kirk on Israel. And look at the dates. Look at the timestamps. See when he started talking about this. Charlie was very concerned, number one, about the fact that he had this massive organization, Turning Point USA. And then you had all of these donors in Israel in particular that was putting a shit ton of pressure on him. And especially after he started to speak out and speak up about Israel, about what he really believed.

And Charlie went even further, as you just heard, than just, necessarily saying it's BB Netanyahu or Israel to the point where people were calling him anti-Semite and all this stuff. And he's like, how in the hell am I anti-Semite? And I'm literally writing a book on the Shabbat. I visited Israel. I have been one of the biggest supporters of Israel of anybody in the conservative party, not to mention the amount of money that Turning Point USA was given by Israel over the years that Turning Point USA was being built. And in large part because I believe Israel wanted to control that in the event it got too big. And turning point USA did get too big.

It got too big because of the fact that Charlie Kirk was realizing what so many of us were realizing about Israel. He was just looking with his own eyes at October 7th and how that happened. He himself said, and I'll never forget this, when we did the episode about Israel on October 7th and how they knew about what was going to happen on October 7th a year in advance, which the Jerusalem Post was the one that actually wrote this article. They had a whistleblower from inside the IDF that came to them and literally had the report that Israel had one year in advance.

They knew about it. They knew what day it was going to happen. They knew what hour it was going to happen. And that music festival on October 7th was supposed to be held eight or nine miles inside of Israel. And I think it was like two or three weeks before the event actually happened. They moved it within a mile or two from the border. just for easier access for Hamas to be able to more easily come in and hit everybody they need to hit. And so my point to this is, is that if you want to know why Israel would kill Charlie Kirk,

it's because Charlie Kirk was ahead of the biggest conservative action pack organization in the United States of America and possibly in the United States history, especially when it comes to the youth, especially when it comes to the youth. And the youth obviously, obviously, is our future. What Charlie Kirk stood for was America First, America values. If you are Israel, knowing that you want to hold and maintain power and control and influence over all of the politicians in the United States, which they have a huge movement like Turning Point USA led by someone like Charlie Kirk that is influence in the youth. And then this guy starts going against Israel and speaking the truth is very detrimental to what your future plans are in the

United States. Yeah. And just look at everything this happened since Charlie Kirk has died. Imagine what, imagine if he saw Gaza and Palestine as it is today. Speaking of which, Google just released their brand new high-deaf resolution images, satellite images, three days ago of Palestine and Gaza and all the stuff. I mean, is a parking lot. There is literally not one building at all standing in that entire area. And so imagine if Charlie Kirk saw things like this. Imagine if we were now in war with Iran. which we are for Israel while they're also blowing up Lebanon and I'm sure they're going to drag us even further in the Middle East. And this was something also that Charlie Kirk was adamantly

against was us ever getting involved in a war for Israel and especially against Iran. Charlie Kirk himself went to Donald Trump and told Donald Trump, do not do this. Do not go to war with Iran. Do not listen to Israel shit because I'm telling you, this is not good for you. This is not good for the conservative party. It will ruin the conservative party. And guess what? done, it has, because the Democrats are going to win in November. But that's why if Israel had something to do with Charlie Kirk assassination, that's why. And what I don't understand is I'm sure Charlie had conversations with Erica about all of this. Yeah.

So why is she standing so highly and so proudly of Israel? Yeah. Why does she defend them? Well, she, but that's the thing. You know, I think what a lot of people... But I think it's her roots, what her roots go back to. Well, yeah, I mean, she was in all the CIA videos or family. is all connected to the military industrial complex, which then is connected to Israel.

A lot of people believe Erica is a honeypot. And, you know, I know it sounds weird because she's had kids with Charlie Kirk and whatever else. But, you know, depending on how much they thought Charlie was going to be an influence, you know, there's no telling how far some of these people go. I'm not saying she's a honeypot necessarily. I don't know. All I am saying is is that her actions and the way she's acted after Charlie's death

has been wild. The way Turning Point USA has acted after Charlie Kirk's death has been wild. And the point of this episode is literally just to highlight and bring to your attention that Utah Valley University did everything they possibly could, it sounds like, for the most part, to try to just get Turning Point USA to do their job. I mean, because it was Turning Point USA that was telling UVU, no, we have this handled. No, we got this. No, we're in control of this.

And yet when they would tell them to, you know, they were in control, they weren't actually doing anything. And I think it was all on purpose. I think they were vague on purpose. I think they were trying to pretend like they had it under control so that UVU wouldn't do anything. So that then when they didn't do anything, they could then blame UVU. And also all of the day's plans could go out to go off without a hitch. And it's just interesting to me that all these meetings that were planned for both sides to meet and plan the security never went through.

They never met together and who was responsible for the rooftops of these buildings because somebody had to be. Well, and that's the thing. It's like every meeting that Utah Valley University called and literally said, hey, we're going to meet on this day at this time, every single one of those meetings, turning point USA security did not show up for. I mean, there's a reason for that. Just like there's a reason that throughout this independent investigation, turning point, USA did not respond whatsoever to this group of people that were just trying to get to the bottom of exactly how that day went down. And part of that could be because Turning Point USA in no way wants to be held liable for any of this. But they're not going to be anyway. Turning Point USA

is protected by not only the government. They are protected by all of their donors. And that's just the way it is. And probably also obviously intelligence agencies. And I think in large part, that's what Turning Point USA is now. It is just the arm of the intelligence agencies to influence our youth. I agree. Do you think they will come out with a response to this report? I don't know. I mean, it depends. If they do, you know, it's probably just going to be finger pointing. It's going to be excuses. And the better question is probably I wouldn't think they're going to come out with a response anytime soon. If they do, like I said, they're definitely not going to put any blame on themselves. Number one, because of Tyler Robinson's case.

Number two, because of Kirk's parents suing Utah Valley University and suing the police chief. So don't think that Turning Point USA is going to come out and take any blame for any of this. Do you think this report will help UVU with the lawsuit? Oh, absolutely. It should. I mean, it should because most of this stuff can be proven, it sounds like, you know, whether it be email chains, phone calls, you know, I'm sure probably 50 plus people in Utah Valley University that know all of these things, right? So, and then you're just going to have turning point USA that's going to be helping the Kirk family or assisting the Kirk family to try to figure out every way possible to screw Utah Valley University to make this money. And look, at the end of day, Utah Valley University or whoever might have to settle.

They might have to settle with the Kirk family. Then a lot of times that's what happens. But they may not either. And regardless, it's taxpayer money. I mean, if they have to pay, that is taxpayer money. I think Utah Valley University, I'm pretty sure as a public university. So it's just let us know what you think. I mean, do you think that this whole thing was orchestrated?

That Turning Point USA was involved, that Erica Kirk was involved. Who do you think was involved? Or do you just still think that it was just Tyler Robinson one day that woke up, although never really political, never talked to his furry boyfriend about politics whatsoever? I find it also interesting that they really tried to push the trans thing so heavily as soon as Tyler Robinson did it. because this was like the cool thing to do. This was the narrative. And honestly, like even the other person,

number one, it was Natalie Hale in a Nashville school shooting. There was also someone else that wrote on the bullets, that, you know, wrote inscriptions on the bullets. Luigi. Yeah, Luigi Mangialon, but there was also someone else after Luigi. Can't remember. But this was like a thing to do.

It was like whoever planned and coordinated this, wanted to make it appear like it was the left. See, it's the left. Look, he's with a furry boy, and all this. Whoever orchestrated and coordinated this, if it wasn't just Tyler Robinson, obviously had picked out Tyler Robinson for various reasons, that he was living with a guy that was also trans, that he was probably also susceptible to MK Ultra type shit, because likely that's what they do. I think that's what they did with Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby,

Rubenstein, I guess, is what his actual last name is. But let us know what your thoughts are. And we will be back very soon. We still have a lot to. talk about we're probably going to be doing an episode tomorrow night as well that'll probably be coming out Wednesday and then we'll have another episode Friday because we actually got an episode out last Friday so some people responded like damn I've never saw you guys have an episode out during the day on Friday that's weird but we did have one and we're going to try to have another one for you guys this Wednesday and this Friday and Sunday we try to do them what we're trying to do is we're trying to do them like every two days because

Because last month we were a little slack and we're going to do our very best not to be a slack this month. Yeah, but we were slack because of your stomach. Yeah, for sure. And that is getting a little better too, for sure. So just keep praying for me. Hopefully it continues to improve and we can get more content out for you guys. Also, as we said before, go subscribe to Investigate Earth Live on YouTube. We will start doing live shows very, very soon and make sure you hit the bell to be notified when we go live.

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