Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Chinese Spy Balloon Conspiracy Podcast | EMP Test Run or Spy Balloon?

Episode Date: February 6, 2023

Everyone around the world had their eyes on the sky the past few days to see if they could get a glimpse of the Chinese Spy Balloon. Was this a spy balloon, or a possible EMP delivery device on a test run for penetrating US Air Space. Why did the Biden admin not shoot this "Spy Balloon" down thousands of miles before South Carolina? We discuss why this should worry every American on this episode of Chinese Spy Balloon Conspiracy Podcast | EMP Test Run or Spy Balloon?

Breaking headline late today, the Pentagon briefing reporters just before we came on the air, saying they are now tracking a suspected Chinese spy balloon hovering over the northern U.S. It was spotted over Montana and other northern states. Montana, of course, home to several sensitive nuclear sites. Now, we are told the suspected Chinese surveillance balloon is the size of three buses with the technology base suspended below. And for a time in Montana, air traffic control imposing a ground stop at the Billings Airport in the last 24 hours. And look at this tonight, the contrails from F-22 seen in the sky as they circled an area where the balloon was spotted southwest of the city. Tonight, a senior defense official saying President Biden was briefed that he asked for military options. So this evening, what next? And is there any possible threat here?

ABC's Terry Moran leading us off from the White House tonight. Tonight, a senior defense official says authorities are tracking a giant Chinese spy balloon that has been hovering over the northern U.S. for several days. This thing is up in the sky, and I have no idea what it is. The United States government has detected and is tracking a high-altitude surveillance balloon that is over the continental United States right now. Sources tell ABC News the unmanned high-altitude balloon is the size of three buses with a technology bay underneath. Officials say President Biden asked for military options, but decided to follow the recommendation of senior military leaders not to shoot the balloon down

due to safety risks for people on the ground. That balloon spotted over Montana, forcing a temporary ground stop Wednesday at the airport in Billings. That ground stop covering a 50-mile radius, no flights, including commercial air traffic, were allowed to land or take off for at least an hour. Montana is home to several sensitive nuclear weapons sites.

The U.S. moved quickly to shield them. Once the balloon was detected, the U.S. government acted immediately to protect against the collection of sensitive information. Well, this is really something. Let's get right to Terry Moran. He's live at the White House tonight. Terry, we know the Pentagon briefing reporters just before we came on tonight. So what are they saying about any potential threat here?

No threat to civilians and has the U.S. reached out to China. That's right, David. The Pentagon does say that they have been tracking this balloon, that it does not pose a threat to civilians. They also say it's not the first time that a handful of other times over several years, dating back to previous administrations, they've seen balloons like this. They say they do not think it poses. and intelligence risk, and they have communicated to China, that this cannot continue. David?

Still unsettling. Terry Moran leading us off tonight, Terry, thank you. And there was a spy balloon above the United States in cases no one saw it or heard about it, which, you know, you'd have to be living under a rock, literally. Welcome to the podcast, guys. This is an Investigator Earth podcast. I'm yours, Chad, alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. Say hello, Sherry. Hey, guys. We're so glad you're here. Welcome to the podcast. Yes, so there was a spy balloon In case anyone didn't see this or hear about it

In the news everywhere. We did. We were in Atlanta interviewing the Dr. Peter McCola The past few days, and we heard about it. We heard about it everywhere, even as we were getting ready for this very important interview

that we were so excited about. And so, you know, as soon as the interview was over, we had time to kind of settle and everything else. And we went to dinner, and we had, you know, kind of our night. We get back in the hotel room. I'd been hearing about this all day, but we're just watching the news, and that's all it is. I mean, you go on Twitter, you go on social media, you go on everything. Everyone is talking about the Chinese spy balloon. It was the story of, I mean, it could be

the story of the year. Like, if you look at how many people talked about it, how many news agencies were talking about this, you would have thought that, you know, China exploded a nuclear ordinance above the United States. I mean, this was how big this mass media operation or campaign for this story was. And look, there's a lot of things to unpack here. I mean, we got to talk about, number one, how was this able to happen? We're going to talk about the potential dangers of this. We're going to talk about the inaction of the government and why. Was there a good reason to not act? We don't know. but there's so many things to talk about. I think this particular subject,

although we are a couple days late, talking about this, we wanted to do it, like I said, in the hotel room. I wanted to get out all of our podcast equipment that we had brought to Atlanta

for this interview, which was a lot. We had like multiple bags in this hotel room. I literally wanted to get it out in the hotel room, do an episode that night. But man, it was just,

we had put so much energy in the Dr. McCullough interview with John Leak. John Leak is his author and not just his author. he was the author of the book. And so John Leake and Dr. McCola worked on this book. I think it's a masterpiece as far as the pandemic and what happened during that time and how

everything kind of progressed and how censorship began to happen and how the mainstream narrative, the global narrative, the globalist narrative took shape and how they were to silence doctors, especially ones that were as smart and as knowledgeable as someone like Dr. Peter McCullough. And I think John Leake took a liking to this because in a way this was criminal activity going on and that's right up his alley. He's into the criminal stuff. He's great at it.

And when it kind of crossed over to different genres, he's like, I have to get on this because this is criminal. Yeah. And, you know, for this interview, Dr. McCola spoke a lot and which is exactly what we wanted. But as John Leake spoke as well, he was very very. knowledgeable. Obviously, he's going to be. He's enveloped his life in this as well, you know, during the writing of the book, during his relationship and friendship with Dr. McCola. And so some of the questions we asked were questions that we wanted to know, we wanted to follow up on the book

and the things that kind of Dr. McCullough went through during the pandemic. But we also had to ask questions that related to the things that we talk about, which is New World Order, the World Economic Forum, globalist population control. We asked those questions straight up to Dr. And his answers were exactly what I would have answered myself but better because he's smarter. I mean, he's smarter. But you know what I'm saying? Like, he answered these questions in a way that was like I was blown away by. I think you guys will be as well.

We're going to be releasing the episode in next few days. Stay tuned for that. We cannot wait for you guys to hear it. Also, I wanted to make sure that we touch base on this briefly. Guys, you know, when we do cross genres and we do certain things like that, we like say if we do true crime, which we're talking about John Link does. He's a great true crime writer. You know, we're in a battle too right now.

One of the ways that you guys can help us the most is going to give us good ratings on Spotify or Apple or wherever it is, you know, Apple especially because there's Apple people. Oh, man. And what Chad's trying to say, when we cross genres and we do true crime, we get some audience that's... We get hate. There's audience that don't normally listen to our other podcasts. and then when they hear our other podcasts, they're like, ooh, God, I hate these. These people, I got to go give them a bad review.

Yeah. Yeah, and, you know, it's one of the things. It's like a restaurant, you know. Right. If you have a bad experience at a restaurant, you'll be the first to go and bad review them, right? Which I try not to do that. Actually, you know, like, I review a lot of restaurants, but I'll always try. If they did good, they went over and beyond, I try to go and tell them they did that.

You need to, you know, I guess if you think we're doing good guys out there, go give us a good rating on any platform you can and and vice versa. You know, and I think that's fair. But we got to, there's a campaign. There's a campaign against all people that tell the truth. There's a campaign against all people that expose the corruption and the BS. And look, you know, we also don't know, you know, there's something we've seen on Twitter that, you know, as far as bots and all this thing. I mean, they try to push a narrative.

They try to push people away from a story or away from people that need to hear what we have to say. And one of the ways that we can battle that is you guys going to raid us, you guys going to be our army and our soldiers just by supporting us any way you can. Oh, and sharing too. And sharing that get the message out. We would definitely appreciate that. That's all we got to say. It's all we got to say about that. But anyways, so listen, this, man, there's a lot to unpack.

So as you heard in the intro, this was an ABC News report about this spy balloon that made his way. across Montana. It was featured all over the news. It was featured on all social media sites. This was the biggest thing everyone was talking about. And so the U.S. Air Force said that it is a Chinese spy balloon. That was their official statement. And the Chinese claim it is a civilian weather apparatus that was blown off course. And they expressed regret for the event. But the equipment visible in photographs suggest that this is a lie. Beyond that, another similar balloon has been spotted over Latin America. And not just Latin America, there are new reports now that have come out. And, okay, so today is February 5th. There are reports that have come out today and yesterday, February 4th, that said that

there is potentially a third balloon that is right now over the continental United States. There are multiple credible media outlets that have reported this and based on their sources. But what we're hearing is that obviously the government or media or whatever or not covering us, the government is being very tight-lipped on it for obvious reasons because let's just face it, when that story of a Chinese spy balloon making its way literally across Alaska, down through Canada, all the way across the United States, was able to do this. It makes the United States look extremely weak. Their resolve looks lackluster.

They look like that anyone could get anything into the United States, but we also have to think about the state of our country, right? The United States. For those of you that live in the United States, and I know a lot of you are going to be listening to us from other countries, but think about this. You know, if we allowed this Chinese spy balloon to literally go across our entire country, and somehow they say that we knew that it was no threat to people on the ground or any of this stuff. So just let it go. Just let it go on by. Don't worry about it. Oh, and what's crazy is, supposedly we knew about this last Saturday. Yeah.

And to me, when we're interviewing Dr. McCullough, we're there Thursday and Friday, that's when I first heard about it. I hadn't heard nothing. And as far as when it came above Montana, the governor had no idea either. No one even briefed him about it. So did we really know anything? Or did we or did we not? Well, the Pentagon, yeah, we don't know.

I mean, that's a good question. I would hope that the United States, the United States, the United States. And that's the first thing I'll say. Number one, the United States is going to know anything to enters our airspace because we have extremely advanced satellites, right? I mean, our satellites, and including China, this is not just the United States. China has satellites that can read a penny, a date on a penny from space. Okay? So as soon as I already heard about this balloon being a spy balloon is ridiculous, right?

and because you don't need a balloon to spy on the United States for any shape, form or fashion. You just don't. Not with satellite technology anymore. None of that. But there are numerous theories as to why such a surveillance platform is what the media is saying will be used by the Chinese Communist Party and what is designed to look for. And so the immediate question is, obviously, is why the Biden administration had not destroyed the balloon. I mean, they finally did off the coast of South Carolina, our home state.

They did this off the coast of Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, Surfside Beach. We had friends and people that we know that live in Myrtle Beach that were texting us and whatnot and saying, hey, check this out. Did you see this? This is happening now. Some people saw this actual, you know, this was not far off the coast. Right. And they heard it too. They heard the explosion.

Yeah, they heard the explosion. They heard the jets flying over. And it appeared that fighter jets were flying around this balloon. throughout the United States. I mean, this wasn't just, you know, off the coast of South Carolina. Jets were tracking this thing for a while. If you went to flight radar, which is an airplane tracking system, you could see airplane refueling aircraft that were typically flying around where the fighter jets were.

So these jets were not even landing. A lot of them were staying up for a long period of time. They were getting refueled in the air and they would go back into, you know, the operation. But, so let's talk about what these high-altitude balloons are, first and foremost. So high-altitude balloons, they travel about somewhere around 80,000 to 120,000 feet. And so the average fighter jet can hit altitudes of about 65,000 feet, and new generation drones can climb to 50,000 feet.

So these balloons also emit little-to-know heat signatures, which makes them very difficult to target using missiles. So if laser technology exists that has such a range, the U.S. military is not talking about it, but it might actually be easier to shoot down a Chinese satellite than one of these balloons. They basically emit very little heat signatures. So we did see that it was shot down, obviously, by an F-22.

Now, we don't, I don't know that I've seen what the altitude of the balloon was at the time. It was shot down. I mean, it was obviously still very high. But yeah, it's not as easy of a shot as people just think it is. Right, because I think it was like 60,000, 66,000 feet. And normally, what are airlines, 40,000 when they're, like, cruising or what? Well, yeah, I mean, typical airlines are going to be 45,000 feet.

You know, that's a typical 40, 45,000, it just all depends. 40,000 is typical 35, 40,000. You know, the higher you go, you have to remember, the higher you go in the atmosphere, the more radiation you're subjected to, right? You know, for example, the radiation is from sun rays, right, and how it interacts with our atmosphere. And so, you know, there's a lot of airline pilots for a long time that would be exposed to similar radiation of x-rays, especially when they flew at higher altitudes, and especially a longer haul pilots. When you do this for 30, 35 years and you're flying at 40,000 feet or whatever,

you know, you're exposed to high levels of radiation, even in an aircraft. And, you know, I don't know if this is true, but I've heard that, you know, a lot of the long haul flights across overseas and all this stuff, there's like 10 hours, 12 hours, 14 hours. A lot of these flights are at night, or they try to make them a night because it's not as much radiation in the atmosphere, so on and so forth. So the Chinese ALTA, or also known as the Alta Balloon Program, for a few years now, DARPA has been playing with a concept for high altitude surveillance balloons using a technology called Stratt-O-A-W-L. Balloons have been fielded for centuries as surveillance weapons, but unpredictable wind and atmospheric changes push the balloons around, making them useless within a couple of days for any specific region. So to break it down simply, Stratowl is basically what it's called,

is the experimental use of lasers to read wind speed and direction far ahead of a balloon. The balloon then uses the data to increase or decrease altitude to ride airstreams in whatever directing the military wants the balloon to go. This could allow increased navigational control, but the holy grail that DARPA seeks is a high altitude balloon that can stay in one place indefinitely. That's what they're working on. There's also LiDAR observation from a balloon platform. The Chinese have been messing with LiDAR technology as of late. So LiDAR uses pulse lasers to measure small variations in

terrain to uncover hidden shapes and structures. It also has a knack for cutting through the forest canopy and other obstructions. The problem with the LiDAR is that the platforms commonly used to carry the apparatus are faster moving and only capture a snapshot in time. Also, it cannot see through the thick clouds, dust, rain, snow, or fog. So NASA and DARPA have both been testing LIDAR from balloons as means to keep the lasers in the sky longer above a specific area. So DARPA is basically wanting a balloon that can stay in a Pacific area without having to move with the wind, because a lot of these balloons are going to follow jet stream patterns and so on. And then how they would use LIDAR is LIDAR, you know, we've seen this on shows on the history channel.

We, you know, Graham Hancock, for example, when they would use underground penetrating radars that would try to show structures below ground to see old civilizations, for example, well, one of the things these balloons want to be able to do that satellites would be, it would be harder for them to do, right, is the ability to use LIDAR, right? So when you get this balloon in a particular altitude, so it's say 60,000 feet or whatever, and I did find that interesting. This balloon, I believe, was it like 55 or 60,000 feet? Typically these balloons fly, like I said, 80 to 120,000 feet. This balloon was lower and potentially lower for a reason, right? So if it was, if it did have LiDAR capabilities, what do you think the reason why they would have LiDar? which is ground penetrating, right? It is a below-ground structures.

They want to see nuclear... Right. ...systems. And that's why they were hovering over the particular areas where we had big presence of nuclear weapons. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of these sites had intercontinental ballistic missiles which are nuclear capable.

And so you've got to think about this, you know, in this way, these nuclear-capable bases, you know, obviously all these silos are below ground. And so what they potentially could have been looking for is, or doing is nuclear mapping, right? So this is a big problem. If this is the case, which means China is just think they're going to get away with this, right?

And they're just going to, which they did pretty much. Because I have news for them. China doesn't need that balloon back to get the data. No, they already got it right away. I mean, it was spontaneous. The United States literally allowed this thing to go across extremely sensitive areas. And I find it also very interesting. I know if you want to look at the jet stream, and I don't know what the jet stream was doing this particular day.

But the way it looks, you know, you've got Alaska, which, by the way, Alaska has a lot of facilities that have nuclear capability because it is very close to Russia, obviously. It borders Russia. And so it went above Alaska and went through Canada. That went through Montana, which is nuclear capable facility. I think there were multiple nuclear facilities that it potentially went over. And I think at one time it was in the area to where it could have surveilled multiple nuclear facilities within a statutory area. Right. But what I find very interesting about this whole thing, even before it went to Alaska, when it was launched in China, it went through China and it went around Russia.

It didn't go in Russia's airspace. It went around Russia to Alaska. Now, if this was moving just because of the jet stream and they has no maneuverability, I think that's ridiculous. Because how did it go around Russia to Alaska, you know, through Canada, down to Montana? Yeah. This had some kind of maneuverability. They had some way to direct this thing to go where they want it to be. So it's not all about the airstream.

They were maneuvering it and they were hovering over places. that are very, what's the word, important to us. And they're hovering. Sensitive, yeah. Sensitive, yeah. So we talked about LIDAR. LIDAR basically just tries to find, you know,

things that are built underground, essentially. So we also know that they could have had technology that is what is called the multi-spectral imaging. Okay. So what multi-spectral imaging does, much like LIDAR, is multispectral imaging tech is highly dependent on the platform that it is mounted on. So MI, which we're going to call multispecteur imaging, is used to measure wavelengths of light that are not visible to the human eye and is tested in many scientific applications. However, there are military applications including use in MI to discover hidden variations in terrain that do not match the surrounding environment.

In other words, it's meant to sniff out camera flodge buildings, vehicles, fighting positions, etc. So China launched two satellites from multispectral imaging in 2019 and may now be trying to test the same equipment on balloons. It's hard to say if they are looking

for a unique target or if they are just establishing baseline image maps to be used in the future for who knows what, right? Now, the third thing we got to talk about based on, if you want to talk

about the surveillance aspect of this, surveillance would only be based on something they could not get from satellite. And we know, well, we don't know for sure, but from what I've kind of researched, satellites have a tough time with LIDAR. It's going to be extremely difficult for a satellite.

Although a satellite, yes, can read things very close on the surface, given, you know, cloud cover or whatever. But what they don't do very well is figure out ways to find things underground, right? So why would a surveillance balloon be used? And is that even plausible? I don't necessarily know that that's what they were doing. I doubt that's what they were doing. But we're just at least saying if they were doing a surveillance mission,

it would be for LiDAR or the multispectral imaging. It'd be one of those two. They're trying to find what is underground and how many weapons, how many nukes they, you know, whatever, how their systems are implemented underground, so on and so forth. Tunnels. They could have been looking for any of it. of this stuff. Underground cities, you name it. Because the United States has those, by the way.

I think we have them all over the United States. So the other thing is, could this thing be a weapon delivery platform? So high altitude balloons are cheap and relatively effective surveillance platforms that can be used much like satellites, but with the right equipment could become far more maneuverable. So we know, based on at least what the government says, is that that this balloon was maneuverable. They said that this thing had the ability to maneuver. We don't know to what extent it had the ability to maneuver, but I mean, if you just simply look at the flight path,

and if you look probably at the jet stream that day, it looks like a typical jet stream pattern, so it was probably just following that jet stream all the way down through. And, you know, they could have used the maneuverability aspect of it to try to stay in an area longer than, say, the jet stream was pushing it. You know, and in aviation, for example, and we've talked about this in other podcast,

typically the higher you go, the stronger the winds are, right? I mean, you know, there are pilots that say, although, yes, it is more fuel efficient and everything to fly higher, say at 40,000 feet or 35,000 feet. You don't have near the resistance that you would at 10,000 feet.

But in some cases, too, you have a much higher wind speed up. So if you're flying to the West Coast and you have a hundred knot, you know, headwind hitting your head or hitting your nose, well, your ground speed is going to be a lot slower, which in turn, like, it kind of negates the fact of the, you know, you fly in a higher altitude. Some pilots will choose to fly at lower altitudes because, you know, the difference in 20 knot headwind versus 100 not headwind at 40,000 feet is a huge difference. So something we talked about in the UFO UAP podcast was, because, you know, these things that the fighter pilots were seeing off the coast that were able to sit in a place and an extremely high outtells and just sit there, you know, that's hard to do. And it would be really hard for a balloon to do because you have this massive surface.

Three bus size is what they're calling it. Three, you know, the size of three buses. I mean, they would have to have a really good maneuvering system to be able to keep that thing in place with that surface area of probably extremely high winds. Well, they must have had some kind of something because if you're going by just the jet string alone, I don't know if it goes around Russia. I don't think so. It would probably go through Russia. No, I mean, it depends.

I mean, yeah, but if you look at jet stream, and we'll pull up a map one day, because I've actually looked at Jetstream map even in Russia before. I mean, sometimes it goes to Russia, right, and then comes across Alaska. Well, I just think it does weird or ironic that it did not even go. through Russia's airways or in Russia's area. Yeah, you're right. Because if it would have, it would have been blown out of the air. Mm-hmm.

First thing, if it went into their international space or whatever, it would have been blown up. That's why they had to go around Russia, even though I feel like China and Russia are kind of buddies right now. It still went around Russia purposefully. I don't think it was jet strings, Chad. And I think it went around and then down to Alaska and then to Canada and then to Montana. and honestly, I don't even really know if we knew it was there or not. No. They say they knew it was Saturday, but if that were the case, why were any officials notified prior to this?

Why did Montana have to find out about it by themselves? Why did anyone notify? Hey, by the way, there's this balloon above you right now, and we're not doing anything about it, but, you know, you got all these nukes out here and you got all these military bases, but don't worry about it, you know, don't worry about it. That makes no sense. Well, and here's the thing. So we've got to look at two sides of an argument real quick

as far as, you know, what this, like, what would be the reason that we wouldn't shoot it down, right? Let's think about this. Well, they're saying because of civilians, but Montana has a lot of area where they could have shot that down in Alaska. Where they're not, yeah, in Alaska, that they would not probably have lost one life.

And another thing, if they would have shot it down on land versus the beach, the ocean, we would have been able to recover the materials way easier than in the ocean. Yeah, and we don't know what they were, I mean, we know there are boats that are,

I guess, I don't know if they're still attempted to recover, but as soon as that thing hits, it's going to sink. You think about 45 miles down or, I don't know, 45 feet, not miles, I mean feet, 45 feet down versus, well, what do you think it is? 100, 2, 300 feet.

Okay, well, that's big versus land. landing on land where we can collect the materials and see what the heck it is. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. And so, you know, but one of the things we got to think about, okay, so these things not only can potentially have LiDR, they can have these things, they can have these systems on it to look below ground, but they can also be used to deliver weapons packages. So, I mean, they could be used to deliver an EMP, a nuclear weapon. They could even deliver a biological agent, right? So this, this, this balloon could have potentially had some kind of biological agent that at, you know, at 60 to 80 or 100,000 feet,

imagine a balloon, the size of three buses, delivers some type of biological agent, you know, like a bioweapon above the heart of the country. And went through our whole country delivering this thing. But it, yeah, I mean, it goes throughout the atmosphere and kind of comes down. It comes across the United States. the reality is is that this balloon being able to make it across the entire country was a disaster that could have very well happened right then right we didn't know what they had on it but we should have shot it down regardless because you know the EMP delivery system you know if if you

have an EMP and we're going to talk about what an EMP means but um for example the Washington Examiner and many other papers dry run balloons called top delivery platforms for nuclear EMP attacks, okay? High-outube balloons, such as the one China has floated over the entire country this week, are considered a key delivery platform for secret nuclear strikes on America's electric grid, according to intelligence officials. Spy balloons used by Japan to drop bombs during World War II are now far more sophisticated, can fly it up to 200,000 feet, evade detection, and can carry small nuclear bomb that, if it's

exploded in the atmosphere, which shut down the grid and wipe out electronics in statewide areas, including potentially a countrywide type deal. The threat of balloon-launched electromagnetic pulse attacks was warned about by a congressional EMP commission and inside military several years ago. And in 2015, report for the American Leadership and Policy Foundation, Air Force Major David Stuggenberg, one of the nation's leading EMP experts, wrote extensively about the threat balloons carrying bombs posed to national security. He said using a balloon as a WMD, which is weapon of mass destruction or weapon of, or sorry, a WME platform could provide adversaries with a palette of altitudes and payload options with which to maximize offensive effects against the U.S., he wrote.

A high altitude balloon could be designed, created, and launched in a matter of months. there was nothing to prevent several hundred pounds of weapons material from being delivered to altitude, he added. On Friday, he told secrets that China's recent balloon fly over the United States is clearly a provocative and aggressive act. It was most likely a type of dry run meant to send a strategic message to the United States, and we must not take this for granted. Now, in the private sector, Stuckenberg, a national security expert and scientists who led the Defense Department's EMP Task Force and chairman of the American leadership and policy, Foundation, pointed to Japan's World War II Project Fugo that targeted the U.S. with balloon bombs as an example of the threat. Not since World War II has North America faced a threat of this nature. Project Fugo is in Japan used balloons to float bombs on the trade winds

across the Pacific to the U.S. and Canada, he told secrets. EMP experts have warned that China, North Korea, Russia, and Iran have programs to hit the U.S. grid. with electromagnetic polts weapons that would cut the cord for a year or longer to our energy or electricity. A congressional report has warned that a blackout that long

could result in millions of deaths, which obviously. I mean, if we had a countrywide blackout due to an EMP, not only would that alone destroy a lot of people and kill a lot of people, but it would also allow other countries to completely destroy, overtake,

and take over this country. But the thing is getting back to the whole thing where it was launched in China, and we are so good at knowing everything with satellites and we can read a penny from a satellite and read the date of a penny on a satellite, why didn't we do something when they launched that thing and we knew it was coming towards us?

I don't know. I don't understand how we even allowed it to get in our airspace at all, period. because even like you're saying, if it was something that was carrying a bomb or a nuclear bomb or something that could destroy our grid, why would we even allow it to come into that area when we knew it was happening since last Saturday?

That's why I'm saying, did we really know about it last Saturday? Are we just saying we did? And then Biden was saying, yeah, I wanted to get rid of it as soon as possible, but I'm going with what the Pentagon says. the Pentagon says wait until it goes through the United States, wait until it gets 12 miles off of the ocean,

and then shoot it down. And I don't want to say this to sound like a conspiracy theorist, right? But I don't even know if I want to say this, but it's a thought that has crossed my mind, right? You have the Pentagon, right? You have, now, 20 years ago, right? 20 years ago, if the Pentagon says, hey, we are not going to do this because of this,

Or we're going to do this because of this. Or the government says, hey, we're going to do this because we're going to defend you. We protect you. You are our people. You are our country. And we care about you. And we care about your safety. You know, as a person 20 years ago in America, you would believe them.

Because you'd be like, yes, our country does care about us. Our country, our country wants the best for us. And most people still believe that today. A lot. Yeah. Well, not most people. Some people. I mean, half the people probably.

Right. But the reality is, part of me did think, like, you know, the fact that we have allowed China to buy up farmland in the United States, they are, they are, whether people want to realize it or admitted or not, China is buying up massive swaths of land in the United States. And they are taking away farmland from the United States. They are trying to control the food supply in the United States. And they will. Yeah. That we are continuing to allow it. Like, we should not, we should take back and repossess every single piece of Chinese-owned land that is in this United States, period.

Yeah, I don't even understand how that's happening. Like, how do we let China buy our food supply, our farmland, for them to dictate when we have food and when we don't? That makes no sense to me at all. Like, who does that? Who lets a foreign adversary somebody who's against the United States buy our land here? Well, I'll tell you, you have to, it's a system, right? It is a long, thought-out world-in-game system that probably World Economic Forum and New World Order have a lot to do with. We're seeing it with the Dutch farmers that are losing so much of their land.

They're taking their land. I think as much as, I don't quote me on this, but like 40% of some of this land has been taken from the Dutch farmers that they're saying is, they are taking it because of the green agenda, you know, the global warming crisis, and they're taking away the farmland from the people. Probably because of cows, because they admit too many emissions. But they are just still in their land. I mean, and that's not just going to stop there. It's going to be widespread.

We're technically already seeing it with the China buying our farmland, but we also know that the government has sent out letters to farmers in America. about repurposing your land or not using your land, right, to for global warming, right? For the climate agenda. It's all a bunch of bullshit. But let me finish my point here. I want to believe that we are not willingly allowing China technology to surveil our country. I want to believe that.

Like, I want to believe that we do not have people in this government that is in bed, with China on that level to where they have worked out some kind of really, really dirty and sick deal with one of our biggest adversaries to eventually take over this country. Because we've said this on this podcast many times. We've said this on many episodes. It almost seems like, especially with this administration, it almost seems like China is running this country right now. Like, if you want to talk about bureaucrats and the people behind the scenes and the people that are, that we don't see, and so many people are like, why in the hell is this happening? This makes zero sense. It's almost as if a foreign adversary, one of our biggest competitors in the world stage, is running this country because everything we're doing is against the United States.

Everything we're doing is hurting the United States. And a lot of what we're doing is helping China. A lot of what we're doing is, I mean, we are depleting our military surplus as far as our weaponry to Ukraine. The UK just said that they are running out of weapons to even defend themselves because they have given them all to Ukraine. I mean, the West, the West is being destroyed from within and we are using tactics and methods. Whoever's doing this, which I believe is a New World Order, because we've said many times that the New World Order has to kill from the inside. the strongest nations or the strongest conglomerates of countries, which is the European Union and then the United States. Well, United States first, obviously. But the United States is being

destroyed from within. Like the fact that this Chinese spy balloon, which is not a spy balloon, I truly believe this balloon was used for a dry run more than likely for an EMP attack and more than likely for embarrassment to just for for China to show how weak right and how sad our government is um and it goes back to even but but also i but also they could have just sorry but they could have just accidentally got caught that the u.s was on board with this whole thing maybe but i'm thinking back a couple months ago when i think it was russia i believe that was off the coast of California spying on us in a submarine.

Same thing. And we had no... We had no idea they were there. Yeah, we did not know it. Like, how smart are we? Or are we just being blind on purpose because we're trying to destroy our own country?

Well, it's almost like China and Russia both have listened to our podcast and they're like, damn, is that country really that weak right now? We need to just try some shit out. Let's like, let's float some balloons over, heard Chad and Sherry say their country is pretty weak right now. Let's see if they're

right. But for people to see this balloon with their naked eye and we still do nothing about it. If people can see it with their naked eye in the sky, one of my best friends, she saw it from her deck, she's like, Sherry. There was this balloon. There was 11 planes around it. We're seeing it fly.

That plane's just kind of dispersed. This is crazy shit. Oh, and they say that this happened in 2019. I've never heard of a balloon coming through the United States before. And if it did, why didn't we know about it? Yeah, so for some of you,

and we're going to get into what an EMP can do in a minute. So you guys got to stay with us for that because we've got to explain the EMP thing. I think this is probably the biggest danger to what China could do to our country. And not just China. North Korea has the capabilities. I mean, we worry so much about North Korea nuclear.

I mean, you don't technically have to have a EMP weapon on a nuclear bomb. I mean, it is one of the good ways to do it because you can explode it in atmosphere and it just it would reach a larger size of area if you use it

on the back of a nuclear warhead, but you don't have to deliver an EMP through a nuclear war and there are other ways to do it. But we're starting to see news stories come out and I want to touch on this because you actually even heard it in the beginning of this podcast. ABC News reporting.

there was spy balloons that went across the country during Trump's term. This is starting to go around all the media sources. Now, let's just make this clear. But you even read in 2019 or something. I've never even heard of that before. So the news is claiming that China spy balloons flew over the United States during Trump years. Trump and officials, and many of Trump's officials, even people that have went against Trump in his own, you know, in his own administration said this is completely. complete BS.

And so the mainstream media has been working overtime to downplay Joe Biden's basically failure in this whole entire situation. And it's pertaining to obviously the balloon, but Bloomberg, Forbes,

the Associated Press, which is huge news outlets, they're all releasing stories over the weekend insisting that Chinese spy balloons had floated over the United States while Donald Trump was president and were deliberately not disclosed to the public. When, though? And how would that happen if people can see these things with the naked eye?

Well, yeah, but you don't necessarily see them because they could fly higher. And if they do fly higher, you wouldn't see them. But nonetheless, the balloon spotted, obviously, over Minnesota and this whole week. They're saying that with previous incursions occurring during Trump administration, Bloomberg reported, citing an unnamed national security official is who. told them this, an unnamed national security official. But numerous former high-level Trump officials universally denied any of these claims on Saturday. And former director of national intelligence, John Ratcliffe, joined Fox News Sunday to refute the mainstream media claims that spy balloons violated U.S. sovereignty on Trump's watch.

He said it is not true. I can refute it. Former Secretary of Defense, Mark Esper, refuted it yesterday. Former Secretary of State and CIA Director Mike Pompeo had refuted it. Ratcliffe told host Maria Bartramo. but Maria, the American people, can refute it for themselves. Do you remember during the Trump administration when photographers on the ground and commercial airline pilots

were talking about a spiveling over the United States, the people could look up and see it with their naked eye and the media that hated Donald Trump wasn't reporting? I don't remember that either because it didn't happen, he said. No, it didn't. And don't think if people see something, that's how we found out because people in Montana found this thing before our government even talked.

oldest what it was. They found it in Montana first before our own government said, hey, look, there is a spy balloon or a possible spy balloon or a Chinese balloon or whatever. You're going to see it in our atmosphere above you. We're just letting you know, you're safe, blah, blah, we are nothing. And Biden was completely silent anytime anybody tried to ask him about the spy balloon. On record, off record, going down the lawn, you know, during the press conference, says he ignored every question. And then he finally said something. I think it was, yeah, the day before yesterday,

he said, I told them to shoot it down Wednesday or whenever it was. Yeah, but he ignored everything prior to that. He would not even try to answer it. He walked away and smiled or act like he didn't hear him, which is complete BS. Yeah, so Donald Trump did officially respond to reports that his administration had a spy balloon incident themselves. And he went on to say,

the Chinese balloon situation is a disgrace, just like the Afghanistan horror show and everything else surrounding the grossly incompetent Biden administration. They are only good at cheating in elections and disinformation, and now they are putting out that a balloon was put up by China during the Trump administration in order to take the heat off to slow-moving Biden fools.

China had too much respect for Trump for this to have happened, and it never did, just fake disinformation. It's absolutely true, too, because I'm sorry, if you don't like Trump, Trump did have China under his finger. He had all the sanctions on him. China would not have done anything during that time. I don't think China would risk that because, I mean, you know, we, regardless of whether people hated him or not, you know, he was one of those people. And just like DeSantis, just like so many other ones.

It's not just Trump. It's not just DeSantis. Probably, I mean, so many other ones. I mean, even Obama would have shot this down probably. during his administration, right? I mean... But I also think, too, this whole Ukraine war is happening because of the current administration that we had. I don't think it would have happened in the prior administration because he was a businessman

and he put his finger on him and said, look, if you do this, this is what I'm going to do to you. He made these guys, these leaders, afraid of America, which is what they need to be, afraid of us, but they're not because they think we're weak. And they're proving it, right? And that's why they're doing this stuff. And they just got away with another thing. They started the Ukraine-Russian War. Now they're putting spy balloons in our country above us and getting away with it.

Yeah. Yeah. So let's talk about what electromagnetic poults is or EMP, because we get to talk about this. Why is this scary and dangerous? It is. Because you know, you can talk about a nuclear warhead. A nuclear warhead itself can kill millions of people. people. But let's also talk about an EMP. Let's talk about what that could do. Well, an EMP, also a transient

electromagnetic disturbance, which is also called a TED, is basically a brief burst of electromagnetic energy. Depending upon the source, the origin of an EMP can be natural or artificial and can occur as an electromagnetic field, as an electric field, as a magnetic field, or as a magnetic field, or as as a conducted electric current. So the electromagnetic interference caused by an EMP disrupts communications and damages electronic equipment, higher levels of energy, an EMP such as a lightness strike,

can physically damage objects such as buildings and aircraft. The management of EMP effects is a branch of electromagnetic compatibility, or EMC engineering. EMP weapons deliver high energy EMP designed to disrupt unprotected infrastructure. In wartime, the most likely, use would be to put the electrical network of the target

country out of commission, okay? So what an EMT essentially does is it disrupts radio waves. It disrupts all waves and can damage equipment even. This is something that can take out communications. We know that communications is huge, but it can also take down

entire power grids. And so we know if power grids are out, especially nationwide, and if an EMP can be so bad that it could take out military communications or even satellite communications. There is potentials that EMPs could be used to take out satellites from what I have read, which is nuts, which you're in space. And you think about these grids being taken out.

Like this has been happening even before this happened. I don't know if it's individuals or who's been doing that, taking out power grids of communities, cities, whatever. But just seeing that on a small scale, it's a major. thing for like these cities losing all power losing everything this is detrimental to human society in that area yeah you're right so you think about a large scale like that you know we just see it in a little scale when they're taking out power grids or whoever's doing that i don't know who it is but it's been happening but this is a little scale think about a huge scale of them doing this to us

yeah and so we got to think about some of the some of the worst ways too that this could happen. So a nuclear electromagnetic pulse or a N-E-M-P. So a nuclear electromagnetic pulse is the abrupt pulse of electromagnetic radiation resulting from a nuclear explosion. Okay. So the resulting rapidly changed in electric fields and magnetic fields may couple with electrical electronic systems to produce damaging currents or voltage surges. The intense gamma radiation emitted can also ionize the surrounding air creating a secondary EMP as the atoms of air first lose their electrons and then regain them. So NEMP weapons are designed to maximize such EMP effects as the primary damage mechanism

and some were capable of destroying susceptible electronic equipment over a very large area. A high-altitude electromagnetic pulse or a HEMP weapon is an NEMP warhead designed to be detonated far above the Earth's surface. The explosion releases a blast of gamma rays into the mid-stratosphere, which ionizes as a secondary effect, and the resultant energetic free electrons interact with the Earth's magnetic field to produce a much stronger EMP than is normally produced in a denser air at lower altitudes. So these systems, these nuclear electrical electrical,

electromagnetic pulses are probably the most devastating and damaging. So these are things that emit multiple EMPs off the nuclear EMP from the very start. And so they're saying that these balloons could even carry those nonchalantly. Right. This balloon could have potentially been carrying a nuclear electromagnetic pulse device. And it could have just been nonchalantly going across the U.S. And when it gets to a certain point, it would have been a flash of light that would have of just blasted everything.

Well, we got to talk about that too. Yes. Because that kind of did happen. And the government is saying it didn't. They're denying that that happened. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Well, so Billings, Montana.

So there was a video that came out. You're right. There was a video that came out. And this was when the balloon was over Montana. Right. And this was specifically in Billings, Montana. But this was Friday night because you woke me up at 3 o'clock in the morning. It was Friday.

Yeah. Was it Friday? Yeah, Friday, yeah. You said there is not confirmation, but there was something happening where there was a big explosion near this balloon. Yeah, so Tucker Carlson actually on Fox News, he had the Montana governor on his show on Friday. And Tucker said, hey, look, I know we don't like to do this stuff with social media, but we're seeing a video of what appears to be an explosion near the balloon. Can you confirm or deny this? And I know, because I saw this show, that the governor said, we are receiving reports of this, multiple reports from this.

And we are waiting on word from the National Guard as to what this was or what happened. But at the time, they thought the explosion was the actual balloon. Being shot down, probably. Yes. Is what the consensus was. Even the next morning you're like, Sherry, no, that shot down. I'm like, no, it's not, Chad. Yeah, I thought it was because, yeah, because, I mean, the, the governor acknowledged that there were multiple reports of this explosion.

So if you guys go watch the video of the explosion, and this was not just one, now, there was one video that got mega viral. Right. And then so when, you know, and if you go on that original post on Twitter of the video, and I'm going to explain what this video shows in a minute. But there were news outlet, news outlet, news outlet, news outlet, news outlet, just asking for permission. to use the video across everything, CNN, this, and this, and this. And then finally you would get to all these other people, but there were other people on the video thread because some people were like, oh, this is fake or whatever, whatever.

But it wasn't. Because there were other people in Billings that were sending videos or putting videos in reply to this video. So other people saw the explosion. They saw this thing happening, right? They were trying to, I guess, get a video at the time of the balloon above Billings, I believe. So what this video basically shows is this lady, she's an older lady, I guess, not older lady, but she's whatever. And she's taking a video of the sky and you see a con trail of what, you know, I mean, it looks like a trail you would see from an airplane flying in higher altitude.

But it was a much bigger control, which was strange. At first I thought, and what appeared to me, you know, people don't realize that missiles also create consequences. And actually when the balloon was actually shot down off the coast, a lot of people thought it was the jet flying in right to the balloon, but it wasn't. That contra was the missile. The missile creates a control as well. And so that's what it looked like to me. It looked like it was a control of a missile. And someone had said that they had heard some kind of almost like a fighter jet, which was normal because fighter jets were circling this thing for a while.

Exactly. But then all the sudden, and this was probably 6 o'clock at night, 5.30. So it wasn't dark. You know, it was fairly light outside. But whenever this explosion happened, it lit up the sky like it was daylight. Like for three seconds, right? So something exploded in the atmosphere. Don't know what it was.

No idea what it was. But obviously it wasn't a balloon being shot down. Yeah, because it was continuing to go down its path. It was still going. There were some kind of explosion near the balloon in Montana. And the government were saying they're denying it saying this is false. Well, they didn't deny it, but they did say that they could not substantiate it. Okay.

Same thing. Well, whatever. Well, yeah, yeah. But I mean, what I'm trying to make a point to that is, yeah, they didn't technically deny it. I mean, they said we can't substantiate it. So there's no, well, I mean, they did kind of both. But when you say you can't substantiate it means you can't prove it. Right.

But there's videos showing. this explosion. Yeah, in many videos. It wasn't just one. There was multiple. And everybody's like, what in the hell is going on? We're seeing these videos.

They're not just making up videos and shooting videos near this balloon that there's some kind of explosion and then it didn't happen. It did happen. Yeah, absolutely did. And so my thoughts on this

are a couple things. I don't know what that was, right? I mean... Maybe it was a trial run or something. Yeah, potentially. I mean, could it have... have been a missile actually fired at it that missed

but but you know that doesn't seem likely well it doesn't seem likely because it would have exploded and most missiles if it's shot and does not hit a target more than likely you're not going to

probably see that unless and I don't know exactly where this balloon was at the time and I don't also know exactly how missiles work as far as all fighter jets but typically they hit or they keep going If they miss, do they explode?

I think they maybe do eventually, but I don't know that for sure either. It depends on a weapon. It depends on all that stuff. But even still, if they would have fired a missile of this thing and they missed and it exploded, right? And maybe that's what you saw, which I don't think that's what it was. Then they would have tried again. They would have got it down and it would not have made its way to South Carolina. So that doesn't make sense.

Unless this was a target area. This is above Billings, Montana. This is not a, you know, a low altitude. It's not a super populated area. No, no, but it's one of the more populated areas in Montana. Like, this is not where you would see an explosion is what I'm saying, where they're trying to shoot it down. I mean, they would have done it over some random place, right?

So I don't know what, I don't know what this explosion was. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. You know, parts of me have even thought could have been a countermeasure. off of this balloon. You know how things can create, you know, like airplanes, for example, they have flares, or they have flares that they shoot off of them to, you know, if a missile, especially heat-seeking missile is... Right, to make the missile go towards that.

Towards the flares, right? The target, yeah. I've thought about that, but it's like, no, this was an explosion. And it was like a very weird, instantaneous light that lit up the entire sky in daytime. You know? What if that was a UFO? I'm just putting it out there. I don't know.

Who knows? I mean, I don't know, but it could be anything. It's just weird that people videoed this thing, and it was definitely an explosion. I totally believe these people. I think the videos are real. I don't think they're fake. Well, there's multiple videos. Yeah.

I don't think they're fake. But then government is saying they can't substantiate it makes no sense to me. No. And then this thing is still going across America. Yeah, and the thing is, you know, now we're starting to obviously see the media, you know, try to say that the Trump administration had the same problem. But that's probably BS. Yeah, I mean, it is. That would have been, oh, especially if Trump is a president and there is a spy, a Chinese spy balloon going across America, you know how much shit he would have got for that. Yeah, exactly.

That is total BS. Yeah, and also, not only that, I mean, he would have been the. first one to love to be able to shoot that down. Oh, yeah. To brag about it. Oh, yeah. He would have been all over Twitter. He has a little bit of a narcissist. Yeah. But, I mean, he would, he would have been that guy. So obviously, China reacted to all this. You know, China reacted and said they have strong dissatisfaction after the U.S. shot down the spy balloon. Yeah, it was like way over the top, they said. Yeah. China will resolutely uphold the relevant company's legitimate rights and interests and at the same time reserving the right to take further action

in response the ministry said. They published a statement today, actually, and they were stated as strong dissatisfaction in protest against the U.S.'s use of force to attack civilian unmanned airships. So the ministry continued to say the Chinese side clearly requested that the U.S. appropriately to deal with this in a calm and professional

and restrained manner. It added, for the United States to insist on using armed force is clearly an excessive reaction. I mean, come on This is the thing It's almost like nowadays We're living in some kind of twilight I mean it's like

You know For the people that think we're living in some kind of What they call it a simulation I mean It almost seems like a video game I mean You know I don't know of any country Into my knowledge

That would have not shot down a Especially an adversary Anything above in your airspace Right I mean, you know, for pilots, for example, in the United States, there are TFRs, which are put in place as no fly zones, right? So if you have a president to visit somewhere, or you have other things, wildfires can do it, space shuttle activities, there are so many different things that the FAA will put TFRs to where it lets all airplanes know, you cannot fly in this area. If you do, you can be shot down. like I don't give damn if you're in a Cessna or whatever.

If you violate this airspace that we have put in place, right, then you can be shot down. I mean, they can kill you. And if they don't kill you, you could be in prison and you could lose your pilot's license and all of these other things. But yet they allow our biggest adversary all up in our airspace all the way across our entire country. You know what I'd like to do, Chad? if I were like somebody big that could really do this, like if I was an Elon Musk or something, I would love to get like a hot air balloon

or something, a balloon and just float it over China and see what the hell they do. Like just a balloon with nothing. Well, you already know what they're going to do. But I just want to see what they're going to do because they said we used excessive force. Oh, yeah. Let's go do that.

But I'm going to make my balloon instead of white. I'm going to make it blue. So it's harder to see. That was one of the things that I didn't understand. Why in the world, Were they trying to make it look like a cloud? It doesn't look like a cloud. But if it was blue, it'd be probably harder to see.

No. But they didn't want to make it hard to see. They wanted to know that we saw it, I think. Yeah, I don't know. Because they knew we're going to see it from our eye. Well, that was one of the things I said. I said, you know, you would think they would have, like, painted blue. Yeah, like the sky.

Because it's like this white ball in the sky. That is three bus sizes big. and it's a white big bowl ball. Well, you know, this is a very dangerous situation. It really is, and it's scary. Listen, this is something we have to take from this. We have to take this from

this entire incident. Number one, what scares me the most about this entire situation is how China feels emboldened by this. It scares the hell out of me. Because although as Americans, or

not just Americans, but if you're in the United Kingdom, you're in Australia, you're wherever, but especially United States right now, as an American, you probably feel comfortable, you feel safe. You've always felt safe in the United States, right? We, as Americans, we've always felt this sense of comfort and this sense of security and the sense of we are the dominant powerhouse in the world, and we're never going to be invaded again, right? We're never going to be, you know, not attacked. We're always going to win every war we get in. We've, we as Americans have taken for granted for so long our power. And now we are, I believe, intentionally put in the weakest place the United States of America

has ever been. And it starts all the way from the bottom to the top. It starts, you talk about our military. And I'm not talking about the guys in our military. I'm talking about our leadership and our agendas that our government is trying to instill and brain. our leaders and our military members. I mean, even the vaccine, how many military members are probably injured? I mean, we know based on military reporting systems the huge increases in side effects and health issues now. We have weakened our military in so many ways, but just mentally alone.

I mean, you watch Russia videos or North Korea videos or China videos of their military being badasses and they're just doing crazy shit. And then you watch the United States. They have these woke things about transgenderism and how you need to be more accepting of this. I mean, it's crazy to me, right? I mean, this is not like we are intentionally weakened in our country. We, I believe still that the administration, whether you hate or love any of this, I think this administration is installed. I think this was an effort. that went forward that they put the people in place that they can fully and completely control in order to completely infiltrate our government and our country to destroy it from within.

Like everybody's so worried about a nuclear war. Everybody's so worried about the conflict between Russia and United States. What you guys should be worried about if you're an American is the nuclear bomb that has been going off inside of our own country for years now, for at least eight years. No, probably 20. No, but really, like the past eight years, it has been an ongoing effort to destroy the country,

and it's gotten, and it's in a fever pitch now. I agree, but I think it's longer than eight years. Even talking to Dr. McCullough about it, he said it's at least been going on 20 years. Well, I know, but I'm just saying like the... This whole thing. Yeah, the last... I'm not disagreeing with you.

I'm just saying that really we got to think about I'm just thinking installments and how they put these people in place that intentionally seem like they're destroying America. This is something that we as people, I guess, are just sitting back

and can't do shit about. And it's like we're just watching this happen. And it's so scary because I think about, you know, my mom is, what, 87, 88. And I think about all the stories she used to tell me about when she was a little girl when they had the airway, the air weight.

raids and they had underground bunkers that they had that yeah the sirens and having to go underground to get protected and blah blah we never had to deal with any of that in our lifetimes right no but it's probably way worse now than it was then yeah but now i feel like that threat level is back to when my mom was a little girl i think it's even worse i think it's far worse like i've thought about that and you're talking about probably the cold war and i believe well the world wars oh yeah the world war stuff yeah You know, the things where, like, Germany was coming over and they had the, you know, sirens. Everyone had to turn the lights off. I mean, she'd tell me stories of what they would have to do. And they had, like, these underground bunkers they have to go hide in. You know, I feel like we're no longer safe and feel safe anymore that we almost have to figure out ways to keep ourselves safe from things that are going to come. Well, yeah, I mean, but even what you're saying back then, I mean, you know, I think most people, felt like, though, that their government truly did want to protect their people.

Yeah, back then, I think they did. And now, you know, especially with the pandemic and everything is happening with that. I feel like that the government is turning another way. Sorry. Go ahead. Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying with the pandemic, is people have lost all trust. A lot of people have lost all trust in what the government really wants for people, for their people. I mean, a lot of people look at what's happened in the past four years as intentional as a, as a glist. globalist agenda. They have looked at this as a mass, not only sciop, but mass, one of the biggest crimes against humanity to ever happen. And so you're looking at this and our own people and our

government was protecting these people that allowed this shit to happen in the past few years. So why all of a sudden are you going to say, well, I believe that our government wants to protect us from everything else, though? Because, I mean, the reality is we talked about the underground cities. We talked about underground bunkers. Yes, our government has underground cities that they can go and live in indefinitely. Regardless of whatever happens, they can go underground and they can live indefinitely. Even if a nuclear warhead goes off, the elites and powerful people are going to be okay. That people like Bill Gates, the people that know about this, Bill Gates has bought up shit tons of farmland in the United States. There are reports that he has underground bunkers. know Putin has him. I mean, Putin has an underground bunker in Russia that he's been staying a lot in

since this war has been going on. He's been underground unable to be touched, really. I mean, really the United States, you would have to go into his bunker. You would have to have a massive military operation. If you really want to kill this guy, you can, yes, you could throw a nuclear warhead over there and blow up everybody in Russia. But he's going to be alive. And so is most of his cabinet. So as most of his important people. But yeah, you could take out a lot of the military, but don't think these countries don't have plans outside of that. I mean, you're going to have to have a mass military operation to go in and take him out,

and you're not going to be able to do that either. Because, I mean, look, there are crazy people that booby trap houses that go, say these people will go kill a whole family or kill their family or whatever, and then they wait on cops and they booby-trap their entire house, and the cops try to come in, and they break down a door and it blows up the damn doorway. there are crazy people that can do this. And Russia will definitely have underground bunkers booby-trapped and all this.

I mean, you're not going to get in. The United States is the same way. And the reality is, I think I think what we have to take from this is the sooner that people realize that our government and our officials don't actually give a freaking damn about us, the better you're off you're going to be.

They don't. They do not care. But my biggest concern is with the, you know, for example, Mike Glover. Mike Glover I've listened to for a while. He used to be, I believe, a Navy Sil. And he has a YouTube channel, but he does, he has a community to where they protect each other. And they learn survival stuff and all this.

And actually, I remember telling you this, Sherry, like four or five, six years ago. I always watched survivables. I've always been in the camping thing. And probably like, I don't know, it might have been even longer than that, four or five, six years ago when YouTube started to censor survival people or censor the preppers. But not even the preppers. Like the people that went out for long duration camping and the people that would show you how to survive in the wilderness. I mean, not even people that are prepping for like a nuclear disaster. YouTube was censoring five or six years ago. They started to censor people

that showed other people how to survive on their own. And this was not. And when we say YouTube, take that as a.k.a. the government. Take that because we all know now, especially with Twitter, that the government is so heavily involved in big tech. They pretty much own big tech, right? I mean, they do. You have hundreds of intelligence agency officers or previous intelligence agency officers in Facebook. We know that from based on a new report. We had tons of those people in Twitter. you know and I actually just saw a report today that said that intelligence agencies CIA DOJ they are courting now all of these

engineers and these tech guys that Elon must fired at Twitter meaning they are trying to get them to come work for them because you know it's a mutual relationship look we either work with you or you can work with us we're good either way because we're doing the same shit Our thing is psychological operations, and we've been doing it at Twitter. You just got to come over and help us do it at DOJ now.

I mean, yeah, you got fired, but we'll hire you here. It's no different. You basically work for the same company because Twitter, Facebook, and all the rest of them are the same thing. Big Tech is the government. And it's just scary. Like the way that we are living in our environment, there's so many people just don't get it.

Well, there's so many people don't even see it or they don't realize it or don't even really care. They're all about their everyday life. They go to work. They come home. They cook dinner. They take a shower. They go to bed.

They get up and do the same thing again. They don't look beyond their little bubble to see what's really going on out there. And it's so scary because there's so many people like that. They're just in their little bubble as long as my life is happy. And I'm going to work. I'm coming home. I'm eating dinner. I'm taking my shower.

Getting my kids ready for bed. They're going to school. Blah, blah, blah. they don't look outside that little bubble. Yeah. And there's so many people like that. Well, and I think so many of those people just assume that, like, well, if something happens, who gives a shit, I guess it's over. If it happens, it's over.

And if that day comes, it's over. But there's a lot of things that can happen that could drastically increase your lifespan based on a lot of things. I mean, look what happened with the COVID thing. I mean, I don't want to talk too much about that on this podcast. I want to know a blue thing. Yeah. Yeah, don't do the blue thing. But listen.

But look what happened. What happened during that? Paper, paper, or not paper towels, but toilet paper, you know, was out of stock. People are panicking. They were panic buying. And it doesn't take much. I mean, it takes a pandemic or whatever. But, you know, this spy balloon thing, there's so many things that could potentially happen with a weak government that we have right now. I am more scared for our country and invasion than ever. Oh, me too. You think about Pearl Harbor. You think about all that shit. Holy, I mean, China's got to be, you know, China, Japan, what Japan is our allies. But I just want to know why people are panic buying cat food. Well, they're not. They're just running out of cat food, just like so many other things.

I also just saw a report, which we don't know, which actually I'm not even going to talk about on this one. But they are putting a particular protein in chicken feed now from what I saw. Nice. Is it a spike protein? routine? Yeah, pretty much. Okay, figured. But that's what the report is saying, potentially. God, man, this, this world's so screwed up. But nonetheless, I still encourage people every single day. Like, do your part in, if there's anything you can do to be more self-reliant, do it, right? I mean, I know not everyone has the ability. I know not everyone has the option. But even if you're

an apartment or you're somewhere or you're this or that you know have things that you're thinking of as far as um you know here here is a particular area that i could go to a national forest or whatever i have i have a i have a little a corner in my room that has particular uh items that i would take with me to be able to survive for a long period of time like a bug out bag like a bug out bag but you know just really think about it for like if i had to take what i have in my car and pack my car with and I have to go to a national forest somewhere and find a cave or whatever. Like, what are the things I need the most to be able to survive for a long period of time? And I promise you, people are doing this.

Even our godson, he started buying seeds. He lives in like 1800s cabin. And he's buying seeds and growing alfalfa sprouts and growing these things and just trying things and figuring out things he can do and he can't do just in case stuff like that. happens and it's also fun to grow things like that you know my niece Taylor she that's she loves it I mean she grows she grows her own garden she lives off of her garden yeah you know and it's not only fun but it's really helpful if you really need it yeah well I think our food system's being tampered with now and and that's a whole another podcast we're gonna have to have we actually tried to do one about about that

not long ago, but we're going to do one on that because it's something we've got to really start thinking about if our food system is being tampered with. Oh, and it's being taken away by China. Yeah, but not just that. Okay, yeah, you're right. That and on top of that, like the food that we do have, we have to talk about it. Yeah. The things they're putting it.

And they've been putting stuff in it for a long time, steroids and blah, blah, blah, trying to grow their chicken, everything. But now they're going to, now they're going to a little step further. according to reports. And that was something I did want to ask Dr. McCola. We did not get to that. Hopefully, on a future interview, we will talk about that.

But there's so many things that we have to, that we're going to start thinking about because we've said this for four years. This situation is not going to get better. And it isn't. I don't care how you want to look at it. It's not getting better. I'm sorry I'm not trying to be a doom and gloom.

This podcast, yes, we want to be like, happy, go lucky. We do. And we need to start having happy-go-lucky things. Maybe we will find like a good story to talk about in the first part and the last part for like a five-minute story. And then we'll go back to like how effed everything is. I don't know. I mean this not like a doom of gloom.

But what we all have to, as you guys are listening, we're in this together. Yeah. I think what you're trying not to be gloomy. Trying to prepare. Yeah. We have to be prepared for things that are coming. We have to have our eyes open. I think that's what we all have to do together is we have to open our eyes. And if our

friends' eyes are not open, we've got to help them open their eyes too. You know, we've got to get people prepared. Not just you and I talking about you guys, you guys know what's going on, because you're listening and you're right there with us and you agree with everything. But we've got to open other people's eyes that are not opened. Yeah. And two, I also want to say that, you know, we are in an information war right now. I mean, like, World War III has already started. The fourth turning or the fourth industrial era. You know, that's happening.

You know, we actually did talk about that with Dr. McCola. And, you know, we are in a war for information. And whoever wins this war wins the world. And so I don't think people really understand the depths of the war we're in right now. You think of a typical war as like, oh, bombs drop in Hiroshima, you know, all these things, blood and guts and people being shot and all that. And yes, that's horrible, right? People's lives are lost and family members and families are completely broken up. But guys, we are also right now in a war.

We are in an information war. We are in a war that is to decide the fate of not only the United States, but this world. and I believe we're in a war against the world elites, I think, number one, and I think that the influence based on that elite party of Davos and the World Economic Forum and the New World Order, I think they are extremely powerful, just based on the influence and money and power

and the platforms they have that control the speech and control the information, media companies, big tech, social media, everything is controlled. phone companies. Everything is controlled by the people that go to these meetings. Everything. I'm talking about the phones you use on a daily basis. The people that make those phones go to the World Economic Forum, the same people that say, we want a new world order. We want to take away the shit that you want and put in our policies, our agendas, our thing. We don't want, we don't want national,

we don't want country. We don't want patriotism. We want you to follow our rules and our directives, period. And so the war has already started, guys. Like the World War III, World War Four, whatever the hell you want to call it, the New World Order War, which is what it is, we are in it. And so we have to win the Battle of Information at the very beginning. This is the front lines of this. The Battle of Information is being fought. Elon Musk is a general right now that had to do whatever he had to do. And look, some people don't like Elon. Musk, whatever, but this was a huge chess move in this battle. And we're still waiting to see what the chess move back is.

And it's going to be something big. They're going to try to shut them down. It's going to be whatever. You're going to see this with platforms like Rumble, which, by the way, we're going to start doing videos over there again. But this is a chess move. We are in an information battle. We're in an information war.

And this Chinese balloon thing, don't let us surprise you. I mean, this is not a surprise. We are weak. we are wounded, we are hurt, we are a gazelle in the African Sahara, and everything around us are lions right now. But I do have to say, I am so glad at least it was blown up in our home state. I hate it got to South Carolina, but I'm glad that South Carolina blew it up. Yeah, I'm surprised some country boy down here didn't try to shoot it down. Oh yeah, on Facebook with all these country, southern people down here, they're like, yeah,

get it to South Carolina so we can blow it up. Well, hell, they should have just let Alec Murdo out of jail and use his 300 blackout. Sorry. That was not funny. That was bad. All right, guys, we're done with this. We're done with this balloon shit. We at least had to talk about it.

We had to... Yeah, and if you guys see any more, like, we've got to figure out how to get these things out of the sky. I think the F-22s do a pretty good job of that. Guys, listen, we got the Peter McCullough interview coming up. We got a lot of other stuff. We did just want to touch base on this and come in and say our thoughts on it. But we got a lot of awesome episodes coming your way. And it is February the 5th.

And we hope that each one of you enjoy your February 6th. Until next time, peace out. Peace out, guys. Straight from your heart All this is search It's time Maybe I'm