Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - CIA Cover-Up? | JFK Files, MK-Ultra & COVID Whistleblower Testimony

Episode Date: May 15, 2026

Tonight on Investigate Earth, we’re digging into explosive new allegations involving the CIA, hidden documents tied to the JFK assassination and MK-Ultra, and claims that files were removed before they could be publicly reviewed. We’re also breaking down the latest whistleblower testimony before Congress involving alleged intelligence community efforts to shape and suppress information surrounding the origins of COVID-19. From secret programs to government cover-up accusations, tonight’s episode dives into the stories fueling major questions across America right now.Support our mission by checking out our merch store

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I'm your host chat alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. On tonight's episode, we're diving into the explosive new allegations involving the CIA JFK files and MK Ultra. A whistleblower is now claiming CIA officials entered offices connected to DNI and removed documents that were reportedly being prepared for possible declassification. And if this is true, the question becomes what was in those files that somebody didn't want the public to see? We're also talking about the CIA whistleblower testimony in Congress

surrounding COVID-19 origins, investigation, and alleged efforts to suppress them from tied to the lab leak theory between secret files intelligence agencies and whistleblowers suddenly stepping forward tonight's show is going to raise some serious questions and we're here for it guys welcome to the show it is may the 14th 2026 the name of this song is end of the world by tom macdonald and john rich felt like i would play that because it seems suitable yet again it seems like we're in the same cycle as we were when this song came out which was like three years ago i believe and i also wanted to play it because we've not heard a ton out of Tom McDonald the past year and a half.

He's released a couple of songs here and there that kind of toes the line, especially at politics. But, you know, he's also probably sitting in his house thinking, what in the hell do I write now? Because, like, we wrote everything about the Democrats and the liberals. And that was literally what he built his entire career on, the corruption of that side of politics. And then there's just been a lot that's happened over the past year and a half

in the Trump administration. So I can only imagine if I was Tom. McDonald and you built your career around this like what the hell do you right now how do you frame it how do you not lose your audience and sherry and i were talking before the show is like you just going to do it because i mean the truth is always going to set you free it's always going to be what eventually will come back around and justify what you're saying and i think that's kind of the way we went with it we're never going to sugarcoat anything just because you know we did i guess encourage people to vote for trump during the election of 2024 also 2020

but you know you got to call like you see it you got to call balls and you got to call strikes and I think that is what is the respectable thing to do and I think more people will respect you regardless of whether they agree with you or not I at the very least hope people understand that we are genuine in how we approach all of this the politics the the every episode we do we try to literally approach it from a non-biased opinion and I think it's almost just inevitable now like I don't think we can be biased anymore in most cases. because like for example, like Thomas Massey is right now running up against Ed Gallerine in Kentucky. And that is a huge race.

Now, obviously, I want Thomas Massey to win that because if you look at who the funders are of Ed Gowlerine, you know, it's like he's already been funded $12 plus million from all Israel packs. They want Thomas Massey to hell out of Congress. And this really started when Thomas Massey signed the discharge petition for the Epstein files. He was pushing that pretty hardcore. he's obviously been against a lot of the stuff that it seems like a lot of MAGA supporters have kind of left for for that reason and so Trump kind of pinpointed him as the enemy the Israel Pax came in to support Ed Gowlerine which is his opponent in Kentucky and so this is a huge race there's a lot there's a lot of stuff going on but the biggest story tonight is the

CIA coup is what some people are calling it they literally went into the office of or the Department of National Intelligence, which is Tulsi Gabbard's office. And Tulsi Gabbard, it sounds like, had these files ready to declassify. And for those don't know how important of a role the DNI is, D&I is literally over, or they're supposed to be kind of the head leadership over intelligence in, you know, for what most people would believe. And Tulsi Gabbard is a leader of D&I. Now, Joe Kent, which was also counterterrorism director, obviously he resigned and he said

why he resigned, especially after the Iran War. There was a lot of stuff he didn't agree with. There was a lot of the things that he thought that, you know, Trump wasn't listening to everybody that was surrounding him, including Joe Kemp. And I think, and I'll be honest with you, I think it's a matter of time for Tulsi Gabbard. That's what I was getting ready to say because she has always kind of been on the fence anyway. She's not, you know, well, obviously she was a Democrat before he made her into this new role. But she's always kind of been on the fence.

and I don't think she is too, like, totally keen on Trump. So she kind of stays in the middle of the road. And we really have not heard a lot from Tulsi. She's been very, very quiet during this position. Well, and here's what I think. Here's what I think. And we're going to get into, like, what we're even talking about because some of you might have zero clue what we're referring to when we're talking about the CIA coup.

Well, let me explain it. So Tulsi Gabbard had these files on her desk. and they were files about the JFK assassination, and they were files about MK Ultra. Now, if you've listened to our podcast for a while, you'll know that we've covered MK. Ultra quite a bit. MK. Ultra was a mind control program that was created and utilized by the CIA and potentially other intelligence agencies within the United States government for many years. It, I believe, started back in the 70s, and maybe even earlier.

And then, I guess once it was revealed that they were doing this, They said that they stopped doing it, although if you kind of research directed energy weapons, I don't really think they need drugs, which is what they used in MK Ultra. They would use various drugs, LSD, you name it, to make people make decisions that they wouldn't normally make. So the government was essentially trying to control people's minds and they would use drugs on people and then brainwash them into doing certain things. Now, they first started with the U.S. military.

They would have unsuspecting U.S. military members, take these drugs, and then they would see how they would react to certain things. And they would see, essentially, like, what can we make this person do if we get them high, brainwash them, and then make them go and try to do what we want them to do. And then they started doing it on unsuspecting civilians.

Civilians that had no idea that they were a part of this MK Ultra mind control program. They started to utilize an MK Ultra on civilians. So obviously, there are tons of files that have never been released about the MKUULTRA program that is CIA led. And then there's also files. on the JFK assassination.

Now, you guys might remember, I think it was probably three or four months in the Trump's administration where he said, hey, we're going to release the rest of the JFK files. And so the JFK files came out. We did an episode on it. We actually have quite a few episodes on the JFK files release. And come to find out what they released was just a bunch of BS. It was mostly redacted. You couldn't read hardly anything.

And what you could read is shit that we already knew. I mean, literally there was no smoking gun in any of these files. That's why now every time they say, hey, guys, we're going to release some files. We're going to release UFO files. Everybody's like, okay, we'll wait for that. All the black lines and the redactions or just not release anything whatsoever. And so the Trump administration pretended like we released the JFK files. And RFK Jr. was behind it.

He was very excited about it because he's like, hey, this is my family. And not only was it his family, I mean, you know, we also think about Robert Kennedy. You know, and Robert Kennedy was at the time of the JFK assassinated. the attorney general. And so he was also assassinated, most people believe, and probably likely by the same group of people that assassinated JFK because of the fact that Robert Kennedy was about to go after certain people that was around LBJ and all of the crimes that he was committing in whoever and however he was connected.

So that's why probably Robert Kennedy actually got assassinated as the attorney general. So all of this to say this. Tulsi Gabbard comes in. And if any of you have ever watched any of her interviews with Joe Rogan or any of the other podcast she's ever been on, one of the things that Tulsi has always said is like, look, you know, with this administration, the next administration has to get ahead. They have to start releasing files. We have to be transparent with the American people. We have to go and look at the JFK files. We got to go look at the UFO files.

We got to go look at the Epstein files. And we have to do something to be transparent to gain trust back from the American people. to the government. And that is something that Tulsi Gabbard has always said. She's always stood for. And she's always been very transparent on podcast where most people were like, okay, so she was a Democrat. And even MAGA welcomed her with open arms because of what she said.

Maga was like, yes, we definitely want transparency. We do not want to protect the swamp. We want to drain the swamp. We want to take care of the people that have been in government and has been hiding all this corrupt and just mundane, crazy, heinous shit for years. and so Tulsi was that person. But yet now she, what I think's been happening is she behind the scenes has been going after these files.

I think this has been a huge thing on her plate since day one. She finally got the JFK files and the MK Ultra files on her desk. And right before and during the process of declassification from what we're hearing, the CIA came in, rated her office and took 85 to 90% of the files. And what's crazy is after they supposedly went in and raided her office, you have all these influencers already saying that was a bullshit thing that didn't really happen. Yeah. They're trying to cover already for something that really possibly did happen. Yeah.

So it was Anna Paulina Luna that actually went on mainstream media and first said something about this. And she said that the CIA came into the director of national intelligence office, which would be Tulsi Gabbard, and took 85 to 90 percent. of the files. Now, I want to play you this quick clip on Jesse Waters. This is from last night when all of this stuff was breaking. And of course, a lot of stuff has been changing as the day has went on today, especially with the conservative influencers. They're trying to protect the image of all of this because it doesn't look good for

the administration, especially if the CIA is coming in and raiding your DNA. And all of this shit is going on while Trump is over in China. It's like you leave the kids at home and everything's going crazy. Well, that's why I think a lot of the influencers are trying to cover for this. But here's Jesse Waters and what they talked about this last night. Tulsi Gabbard's office. Agents hauled out dozens of boxes, files on the JFK assassination, and MK Ultra, the CIA mind control operation, which she was in the process of declassifying.

Today's whistleblower said it during his deposition, and Congresswoman Annapoleon, confirmed it moments ago. The reason why this is troubling is, A, there was an executive order that the president had directed the full declassification of JFK, but then also to the MK Ultra files. The CIA famously has said that, you know, all documents were released and other documents had been destroyed. So these are allegedly those documents that apparently never existed. Can the CIA overrule the president?

No, the CIA cannot overrule the president. and the CIA cannot even overrule the Director of National Intelligence. In 1975, the Church Committee, which became the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, specifically ordered DCI William Colby to release all, all of the MK Ultrafiles. He famously went back to CIA headquarters and ordered that all of the files be destroyed. 85% of them were destroyed. He was held in contempt of Congress, and then CIA employees lined the halls and contributed cash to pay for the fine that he was ordered to pay. We only know what we know about MK. Ultra

because of the 15% of the files that weren't destroyed. These are among those 15% of the files. They are mandated to be declassified. The American people have a right to know what is in these files. And the CIA can't raid offices, least of all the offices of the director of national intelligence. It's just real life isn't supposed to work this way. This is crazy. This is something out of a movie, but the CIA was experimenting with LSD on willing and unwilling participants during the Cold War for intelligence operations and to exploit people. And it didn't go well a lot of the time.

And they threw it all in a wastebasket, right? Like, it never really worked. Is that why they don't want anybody to know about it? I think they don't want people to know any more than what we know about, for example, dosing innocent citizens of San Francisco, California, or a small village in France and putting LSD in the yeast at the only bakery in the village just to see if everybody in the village would go nuts, which they did, of course, or coming up with a program in San Francisco to hire prostitutes to dose Johns and see if they would cough up their innermost secrets.

So there you go. that was on Jesse Waters last night. Now, I want to explain who that guy is that's talking on Jesse Waters. That is John Kariaku. And so a lot of you may know who John Kariaku is. He is an ex-CIA officer that was very pivotal in exposing the torture program from the CIA. And he actually went to prison for that, for the exposing of that. And to the point where he said when he was witness to this, because he was put on a deed,

that was very close quarters to this torture program. Many of the people that they actually brought in to torture to get information about, quote, unquote, terrorist in various countries, a lot of them did not come out alive. And not only did they not come out alive, they were brutally tortured by the CIA. So John Kariaku noticed so many of the CIA officers that were witnessed to this were very distraught. I mean, I'm talking about it ruined some of these people's lives going forward. Ford because of what they witnessed, because of what they had to be a part of on behalf of the American government.

And, you know, John himself said there were people that were very close to the actual torture program that he knew for sure was going to blow the whistle on this. And then it come to find out they never did. And he got to the point where he said, I have to say something. I have to because like I can't let this continue. And as he has said in many. interviews, a lot of these people that were tortured or were a part of this torture program were not terrorists. These were family members of people that may have been connected to

terrorists. So we're talking about women and potentially children and whoever that they were trying to get information out of to try to somehow connect them to whoever they were looking for. So it was John that was very pivotal in exposing the torture program. And because of that, he got arrested and charged and went to prison for espionage. He now, since lives, I believe lives in Russia. He definitely does a radio show for RT, which is basically a Russian state media group. And so he's, you know, he's, I guess, sparred with other ex-CIA officers on various podcasts about why he does that.

Should he really be doing that in Russia? So on and so forth. But. And he was pretty much like, F, the government, you know, I went to prison. think for like 15 years. I'm going to do what I want. And the only reason I went to prison is to tell the truth to the American people because they had a right to know about this stuff.

Yeah, to expose the crimes. That's exactly what he did. And, you know, there are people, you know, we only live on this earth one time, right? At least as far as we know. And some of us may die at 18. Some of us may die at 80. But what you choose to do with your life now is what you choose to do with this. And so for some people, like we've talked about the Beagle.

stuff and Wayne Sung and all of those people that like their goal and their mission in life is to save the beagles from these heinous farms that they're torturing, right? That's that's something that calls them. That's something that they are willing to put their life on the line for. And I say life because of felony charges and who knows the attacks because when they go to these farms, they usually get pepper sprayed or hit with bullets or bullets, rubber bullets, you name it. And they face a lot of prison time as well.

And so John Kariaku felt like this was his calling. He needed to say something. He couldn't just stand by and watch this happen. And to me, when people actually stand out for telling the truth, not stand out to cope, not stand out to be a voice for the propaganda, those people I don't give a shit about. The people that actually are going to put their neck on the line against what the agenda is, against what the overall goal of whatever your government says, you must do, those people, I come in because those people are actually doing what is best for humanity not what is best because

of your republican or your democrat now the reason why i wanted to play that clip is because jesse waters just had john karyaku on his show last night this is fox news jesse waters is obviously probably the biggest show on fox news right now uh used to it used to be tucker crosson until they fired him because i guess they didn't like him saying the truth about the voting machines and whatever else. And it was part of the lawsuit. But Jesse Waters is certainly the biggest, I guess you can say talk show host on Fox News, period right now. And probably also in mainstream media in a whole.

And so they bring on John Kariaku all the time. And it's because of his knowledge and intelligence as far as what he knows about how the CIA works, how the intelligence agencies work, how the world works, how the U.S. government actually works. because when you're a part of the government, especially in an intelligence operation, and especially when you're a high up senior intelligence officer, which is what John Kariaka was, he wasn't just some low-level fruit. This guy was high up. He knows the Middle East, probably better than damn near anybody that's been in CIA.

That's why they bring him on. And so he had also talked about this. He said, this is his thoughts on why they got rid of the JFK files. And he thinks that the raid wasn't necessarily about, I guess you can say the MK Ultra files. More so probably the reason why they don't want the JFK files out is for this reason. Listen. So I have a friend who is close to the president. And I said to him at the time that the documents were released about a year ago, I said,

thank God that the president finally released the remaining documents. And he said, no, he didn't. I said, yeah, he did. He was compelled by law. Congress passed a law twice demanding, compelling the president to release all documents related to the Kennedy assassination. He said, there are 10,000 documents that are never going to be released. And I said, why? And he said, because every single one of them points directly at Israel.

And I said, oh, man, that's not one that I was thinking of. He says that the Israelis were so angry that, A, John Kennedy wouldn't give them nuclear technology. But more importantly, B, he was actively trying to disrupt the Israelis from acquiring nuclear technology. And they decided they had to take him out. There you go. And. Well, and I also thought that JFK was trying to make them register. as a foreign entity when it came to our elections.

No, he was. Yeah. So FARA, which is a foreign agency act for the United States, if you are a foreign nation or you are connected to a foreign nation in any way, shape, or form, you are supposed to register with FARA. It happens with every other country in the entire world, except for somehow Israel. It does not happen with Israel. And so JFK was heavily pushing that Israel must register with Fara.

That was his number one thing. And on top of that, he also wanted the IEA or whatever the nuclear organization is that goes in and inspects nuclear and all this stuff. He wanted them to register with that agency and organization. And number one, he did not want Israel getting nuclear warheads. He was pushing very hard against a nuclear powered Israel. And for various reasons. Number one, you're in the Middle East. Number two, because of the intelligence agency.

of Mossad and all of their long history of all the shit they've been involved in, JFK did not feel like it would be the best country to have nuclear warheads would be Israel. And especially considering if we look what's going on right now in the Middle East with Lebanon and Iran and Gaza and you name it, this is a country if we're literally talking about a nuclear war potential and the height of global tensions right now lies in the Middle East. and you have this pivotal moment right now where it seems like, regardless of whatever Trump says on mainstream media, it seems like Trump really wants to hell out of this Iran war now. And he's going to say whatever it takes to try to convince you that a deal's about to happen.

A deal's about to do this. This is about to happen. But yet every single time Benjamin Netanyahu goes on mainstream media, he's saying this war is not over. You know, we're going to say when it's over. It's not going to be anybody else that says when it's over. That's why you don't really want a country like Israel to have new. because obviously the United States can't really control what they do. I think that's pretty obvious, if anything, is probably reverse.

And so when you look at the JFK files, now at the very least, we've done many episodes on the JFK files. And the book, The Men on the Sixth Floor, was probably the most pivotal book that I've ever read as far as the JFK assassination, that 100% proves at the very least that it wasn't just Lee Harvey Oswald that committed the murder. it was at least six people in that school, the schoolbook depository building during that time. Also, you got to think about Jack Ruby, which was the nightclub owner that killed Lee Harvey Oswald. Well, he was Jewish and he was very connected to the Israel lobby. Yes. And people are saying that maybe he was even working with the CIA. Yeah, his name actually was Jack Rubenstein.

Yes. That was his real name. And they changed his name. Yeah. That's crazy. And it's also crazy to me thinking about Israel is the only. country that does not have to register nuclear weapons. So nobody really knows that they have them.

We know they have them. But they don't have to say that. But every other country in the world has to register these things. No, you're right. And so the story right now, where we're out on the show, just to let you guys know, that the official story yesterday was that the CIA raided Tulsi Gabbard's office. They took the JFK files, which is what I think they were mostly after, because they didn't maybe 100% know what was in the files that Tulsi Gabbard was able to obtain.

And obviously, they also took the MK Ultra files, even though a lot of what we're hearing on mainstream or social media is MK Ultra files, but that's not really what this is about. As John Kiriaku already said, we only have 15% of the MK Ultra files because 85% of them were destroyed. So likely the CIA is not going to raid a DNI office for the, you know, literal remaining files, whatever was the most damning shit that they had was probably in that 85%, which is why they were destroyed. I think what they wanted to make sure of when they raided this office was about the JFK

files. And as you heard John Kariaku just saying, he says, when he says a friend, he's talking about someone high level government that knows all of that shit that is going to tell him this. This is not just someone that, you know, someone on social media that told him in a message. This is John Kariako, a senior ex-intelligence officer that literally, literally, sacrificed or was willing to sacrifice his entire life for the cause for the cause of humanity and morals that's what he was willing to do so i i believe in john carey i i do trust him but when you have people like nick sorter and let me point this out to me and nick sorter have talked

multiple times you know throughout three or four years i've always liked nick sorter and especially leading up to twenty twenty four we were in spaces together We talked back and forth. We had various ideas. We bounced shit off of each other. He was going to come on the show at one point in time. But we've always talked. And obviously after 2024 and he started to go out and try to do like a Nick Shirley thing, trying to expose whatever.

It was, you could see like in his post, there was a huge shift. And now it's just he copes for the administration. No matter what they do, he's going to defend it. It does not matter. And then so today Nick Sorder came out and said, breaking up, date, despite claims made by Anna Paulina Luna, D&I's Gabbard's office was not rated by CIA or anyone else. White House and DNI officials confirmed to me.

Luna has since sidestepped her claims as well. The age of US reps saying anything just for some TV time needs to end is what he says. But I don't think that's the case. I think, and especially if you look at, for example, Laura Lumer, Laura Lumer five hours ago. Now, if we know anything about Laura Lumer, obviously she is Israel first, no matter what, But she is 100% one of the social media influencers that for whatever reason has direct contact with President Trump.

She is in his ear all the time. I think she's a psycho personally. And I've also talked to Laura Lumer personally multiple times. But I'm just telling you, she's psycho. And so she goes and post this five hours ago. And if you want to know, like, who's probably doing the right thing for America right now? Just listen to this post. And it's kind of long.

But I want you to hear it for context of. all of this. She posts civil war within the intelligence community. Trump-Haten Senator Rand Paul subpoenaed a CIA official yesterday to testify about the origins of COVID-19. So she already don't like what we're going to talk about next, which is the CIA whistleblower that was subpoenaed in front of Congress about the origins of COVID-19 and the CIA. But then she goes on to say, but this wasn't just any CIA officer. James Erdman was in the director's initiatives groups, Tulsi Gabbard's handpicked hatchet men responsible for running politically motivated investigations that advance her personal agenda.

The group has since been shut down. During the hearing, Erdman was flanked by Carolyn Rocco, another Gabbard political operative, whom I previously reported on, and Ivan Rakeling, who continues to promote the debunk theory that a CIA police officer was responsible for the January 6th pipe bomb. Tulsi Gabbard clearly tried to undermine President Trump's negotiating position with China on the first day of his historic China summit, Rand Paul and his father, Ron Paul, have consistently criticized President Trump's foreign policy,

and now they are attempting to sour the relationship with China even further while we're on the precipice of a deal. Tulsi maintains an incredibly positive relationship with the Paul family, which makes sense given their hate for Trump and their deeply anti-Semitic views. See, she got to bring that in. And by the way, I don't know if you guys know this, but Rand Paul and. And Thomas Massey and all these people that are being ousted from MAGA right now, the ones that Trump is tweeting or not tweeting, but true socialing about.

And the ones that all of these influencers, including, you know, Laura Lumer are posting them out. All of those people are actually the ones that truly did support Trump, truly did support the MAGA movement and the America First Movement. These are the ones that were literally the most transparent. the ones that are completely surrounded Trump right now, all of them literally in office, are the ones that have always said they hated Trump. I mean, I'm talking about all of them. Oh, yeah. Marker Rubio, a guy from South Carolina, why can I not think?

I'm trying to erase his. Lazy Graham. Yeah, I'm trying to erase that dude's mind or name out of my memory. But all of the people that surround Trump in the White House are literally everyone that has hated him the entire time that Trump's been even in mention. of being a president of the United States. Well, and I don't like that the fact that Laura Lumer came after Rand Paul, because if you remember correctly during the whole COVID thing,

he was up Fauci's butt the whole time saying what in the heck is going on. We deserve the truth. American people need to know the truth. You know, he questioned him on Capitol Hill many times. And that was when Ron Paul like really went after Fauci. And that's when he changed the definition of getting a function. Yeah, exactly. And we're going to get into the CIA COVID cover up because this, you know, it's important.

It's definitely important. And Rand Paul, as Sherry said, has been pivotal in the COVID cover up in the COVID planemic. And he is a doctor himself. And he is someone that especially when we covered COVID during the time from 2020, I guess, to 2023, 24, especially as Congress started to have some of these. investigations or at least testimony from Dr. Anthony Falci in Congress, Rand Paul was always the go-to guy because number one, he's a doctor, he knows all this shit, and he was very hardcore on Dr. Falci. And just leading up to the last day to prosecute Dr. Anthony Falci,

Rand Paul was all over social media saying we must prosecute Dr. Falci. And of course, I had a couple people the other day say, well, you can't prosecute Dr. Falch, you idiot, because he was already pardoned. But the reality of it is that was actually me asking you that too. No, no. There was a lot of people that sent sent me messages about that. I was wondering as well. Well, but the reality is that that was the whole point of why everybody said, why did you kill the investigation into the auto pen that Biden used to pardon these people?

Biden himself did not even pardon people like Dr. Anthony Fosci and Hunter Biden. It was whoever was controlling the auto pen and who the hell knows who that even is. Well, I'm sure Biden pardoned in his own son, even though he said he wasn't going to. I know. I'm sure he did. But it's still done with Autopin. All of the pardons were done with Autopin. And they killed the investigation because they didn't want to prosecute these people.

And that's exactly how this system works. The same people, the same evil people that were behind the Biden and Harris administration are now also behind and control in this administration. I hate to tell people that, but it's true. But anyways, Laura Lumer goes on to say, watch the clip below where a senator. Senator Ron Johnson attempts to smear CIA director Ratcliffe, the president's most trusted intelligence advisor. Tulsi's allies are now openly attacking Ratcliffe, likely because he is far more competent or competent than the Bumbling Jew haters and chronic leakers over ODNI.

This hearing was almost amplified by Trump hating traitor and Tulsi Gabbard's close friend Joe Kent, who is currently under FBI investigation for allegedly leaking classified information. The CIA was absolutely right to call this an act of political theater. If Erdmann's close testimony was truly so insightful, Tulsi could have simply declassified it like she did for the HPSCI hearings by former intelligence community inspector General Michael Atkinson. During the hearing, Erdman and Senator Paul seemed to have a very friendly and familiar relationship. I'd like to know how much they actually communicate. The hearing seemed 100% stage. It probably was knowing what we know about Tulsi and the fact that it was scheduled for day one to

President Trump's China summit. Now, I want to point out something, too, is that the fact that Laura Lumer is so hardcore protecting the CIA should also tell you everything you want to know. And it also should probably tell you how really connected CIA and Mossad Air. Okay. So I have a question about this whole thing that happened when they had this whistleblower, this James Erdman, come out and talk about that CIA was behind covering up COVID and the origins of COVID, none of the Democrats showed up to this meeting.

If these so-called Republicans that are going against MAGA are coming out in its opinion, these guys, why would the Democrats not be there? Because wouldn't that be like pro-Democrats if they're going against MAGA? Well, probably. But, you know, I would assume the Democrats probably thought that this hearing was going to be to go against Democrats. and how the Democrats and the Biden administration handled COVID on behalf of the CIA. And I'm assuming that's probably why none of the Democrats showed up because they were like, this is going to be a witch hunt for us.

So they weren't going to go. I mean, some of them did go. It wasn't either way. I want to play you guys a quick clip here before we go any further. And this is what the interaction between Erdman and Senator Ren Paul were us about the COVID-19 pandemic and the cover up. listen. Good morning, Chairman Paul and other members of the Oversight Committee. Thank you for the complimentary introduction, and I appreciate the committee's dedication to transparency and accountability. I am a career CIA operations officer, and as you mentioned, I was on joint duty assignment at the Office of Director of National Intelligence, Director's Initiatives Group, or the DIG, between March 2025 and April 2020.

I was responsible for leading the Diggs investigation into COVID origins, anomalous health incidents, and unidentified anomalous phenomena. I'm here today to discuss the COVID cover-up, the national security implications associated with the DIGS investigative findings, and CIA refusal to comply with lawful oversight, as well as how we remedy these problems. Intelligence community leaders and senior analysts downplayed the possibility that the COVID pandemic originated as a result of a lab incident. Motives are difficult to define given the scope of the digs review. Intentional or not, the ICs actions resulted in a cover-up, wasted resources, and a failure to properly inform policymakers.

I want to pause for a second because, and I'm sorry, I know some of you're like, I hate when you pause during a video and say something, but I got to say this because I think what people don't understand about this hearing that as you listen to this clip, I want you to put in your head. You have to ask yourself, why would the CIA be covering up for a lab leak in China? Think about this. Just put in your head for a minute and ask yourself, why would the United States most clandestine intelligence agency that we know of be covering for the Chinese government? Why would they be doing that?

Well, I already know the answer. Do you want me to say it? Well, no, you don't get to say it. But I'm just saying because there is an answer to this. We'll talk about it in just a moment. But I want you to think about that. Intelligence community leaders and senior analysts downplayed the possibility that the COVID pandemic originated as a result of a lab incident. Motives are difficult to define given the scope of the digs review.

Intentional or not, the ICS. These actions resulted in cover-up, wasted resources, and a failure to properly inform policymakers. Public health policy would have been very different had the American public been made aware that a virus from a lab in China was going to serve as the foundation for an emergency use authorization MRNA products, being mandated by the former administration. Dr. Fauci's role in the cover-up was intentional. Dr. Fauci influenced the analytical process and findings by leveraging his position to ensure the I-C consulted with a conflicted list of curated subject matter experts, public health officials, and scientists. This included some of the authors of the paper, the proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2, and other

public health experts who have been in his orbit for the last 20-plus years. Some of the scientists were part of the Biological Sciences Experts Group, or the BSEG, an office of a director national intelligence advisory body whose members often receive considerable funding from NIAID and public health agencies. The BSEG scientists influenced national laboratory, WMD research, policy decisions, finished analysis, and other intelligence matters, creating misaligned incentives and conflicts of interest, as well as counterintelligence issues.

Since 2006, the BSEG consulted part-time on biodefense issues for the IC, while conducting government-funded research and holding academia positions, as well as maintaining roles in public health institutions and serving as members in the National Academy of Science. They received funding from NIAID and other agencies for vaccine research, USAID's Predict Project, the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program, and even worked with Chinese scientists on coronavirus and other pathogen studies pursuing vaccines. There was no oversight monitoring how this web of relationships influenced research, policy,

and public health in any holistic way. for over 20 years. In fact, several of the BSEG scientists helped Dr. Fauci rewrite definitions of gain a function in 2015 to lift a funding pause on dangerous research. Still others participated in planning event 201 in 2019. This was a coronavirus pandemic tabletop exercise, curiously similar to the events that played out during the COVID-19 pandemic. And it was attended by Dr. Fauci and individuals with IC ties like former. DNI Averill Haynes. The CIA and DNI analytic managers responsible for examining the

origin of COVID made decisions inconsistent with the conclusions of subject matter experts and analytical tradecraft, consistently favoring the theory of zoonosis or natural origin. Following the CIA's COVID relook that culminated in 2023, the CIA retaliated against analysts supporting the lab leak hypothesis. CI analysts were not bribed. The analysts that supported the 2023 lab leak conclusion took every administrative measure available to them to address their deep concerns regarding the analytic integrity

of their finished intelligence. CIA managers retaliated against them for their refusal to agree with management's middle of the night, anonymous rewrite of the analysis, which changed the assessment to a non-call judgment. Dr. Anthony Fauci's influence over the IC's COVID-origin analysis and the winning and unwitting role some BSEG scientists and IC personnel played in the cover-up exposed why this issue is of deep concern. Failure to address the United States government's inability to differentiate between public health and biodefense and the oversight.

resistant ecosystem of life science actors has been fertile ground for increasingly dangerous continental United States gain of function research, as well as similar research conducted in U.S. government's supported labs abroad. Post-9-11 changes in public health and biodefense roles and responsibilities have blurred the lines between scientists, the military, the intelligence community. It has resulted in a deliberately opaque and excessively redundant biodefense research policy and financial infrastructure, seemingly intended to escalate bureaucratic blow. This is a national security crisis caused by the inability to provide real oversight. The systematic failure is associated with muddled boundaries between biodefense and public health

and an overly complex infrastructure have been exacerbated by documented efforts to circumvent oversight. CIA did not comply with lawful oversight during the dig's investigation. The behavior significantly impacted Director Gabbard's implementation of several EOs, issued during this administration, and tasked to the dig. The CIA refused to provide information necessary to understand why analytical standards at the CIA were violated. The CIA illegally monitored the computer and phone usage of DIG personnel, their investigations, and contact with whistleblowers. These were Americans being spied upon illegally while executing duties directed by the president and under the authority of the director national intelligence. One CIA contractor, assisting with the Diggs investigation into the events that transpired between 2022 and 2023,

was fired by the CIA one day after meeting with the DIG. When the DIG ceased operations, the CIA also took back 40 boxes of JFK files and MK Ultra files being processed for declassification by D&I Gabbard. The legislative and executive branches will continue to be misinformed if this type of behavior is not addressed. The partial solution to dangerous gain of function has already been laid out in Executive Order 14292, improving the safety and security of biological research. We need a comprehensive review of government-funded, life science research, and a move back to pre-911 definitions of gain of function, WMD research, particularly in the IC and DHS. More broadly, we need effective oversight.

We must hold agencies responsible for failure to comply with executive order 14292, and oversight must have teeth. You must be willing to pull the purse strings, and if necessary, convene another church committee. The results of our investigation would have been impotivized. without whistleblowers willing to come forward. They are indispensable agents for reform. Despite statutory law, agency regulation, and training requirements,

whistleblowers are almost never protected. Whistleblower protections always seem to protect the agency. Every time the CIA investigates itself, they coincidentally find no wrongdoing. When they do identify issues, they hold the system responsible. That last statement is a verbatim response from a Europe and Eurasia Mission Center lawyer when the CIA Office of Inspector General did identify shortcomings so serious, oversight bodies were holding meetings about it three years after the events transpired. It was in response to the question, was anyone held accountable?

Apparently, the system is good enough. The only way we solve this issue is with real accountability for failure to comply with executive and legislative branch oversight and an escape valve where whistleblowers can continue to contribute to mission free from retaliation. All IG elements need to be removed from the agencies and fall under a separate entity controlled by the IC. inspector general. The personnel in IG elements should be 1811 certified with regular DOJ and legislative oversight reporting responsibilities. Thank you. And my written statement provides far more details related to these issues. I look forward to your questions. There you go. And so that was, in my opinion, groundbreaking testimony. I mean, I don't think, and the fact that mainstream media is not really covering this a lot.

This guy's CIA whistleblower. He was there during 25 and 26. And one of the most concerning things that I think you all need to take from his testimony, and we're going to cover each thing he said, was WMD Research. He said the fact that the CIA is trying to cover up this because it is weapons of mass destruction research. So all of the bullshit that you guys have always been told about why there gain of function in viruses, like the coronavirus, for example, that then turned into COVID-19.

He literally tells you right here in this opening testimony that COVID-19, the gain-of-function aspect of this that we sent to China, likely just to be able to blame it on China, was for weapons of mass destruction. This is what this virus was created for. It was not created to study a zoonotic virus. It was not created just in case there was evolution of a zoonotic virus like coronavirus that somehow one day infected humans. No, the research was done for weapons of mass destruction.

They were trying to find one of the most deadly viruses they could infect a mass group or population of people with. and it just so happens that coronavirus was what they had been working on with Dr. Ralph Barrick in North Carolina and the doctor in Texas and Dr. Anthony Falchie. Now, Dr. Anthony Falci is nothing more than a evil mad scientist that the CIA created. I want you guys to understand this. This is what I believe. This is my opinion. My opinion tells me that Dr. Anthony Falci is basically handled by the CIA. if you know we always think about intelligence agencies have all these officers around the world that do various things they go to various countries to overthrow governments they infiltrate foreign intelligence they do all this shit on top of spying on you the everyday citizen but they also have doctors mad scientists something that you would see in a movie that create viruses for death and destruction they have these people and doctors

Falschie, it sounds like, was just the public facing. I don't necessarily know that he wanted to eventually be public facing, but the fact that his name was behind the NIH and behind a lot of this COVID research is what they tried to push this off as. Dr. Falshie was a CI operative is what he was. He was, it sounds like a doctor for our intelligence agency to create a weapon of mass destruction that was originally created and gain of function, meaning. made more deadly inside of the United States.

Then we send that off to China. We then released that virus, which is probably intentionally, in my opinion, I think this lab leak wasn't on accident. I think it was intentional. During the time this lab leak happened, by the way, we had a military games in China. Yeah. And there were a lot of- Blaming us.

Well, yeah, China was. Yeah, China said this was not us. There's no way in how we did this. Now, obviously, China would have known that we had this pathogen in the Wuhan. Hunt Institute of Virology. And if I was China, I would have probably never let that happen if you're just, you know, if you have America and American doctors saying, hey, we got this virus, we're going to send to you guys.

You can continue to do this research. One of the most deadly viruses there has been in a long time, although it wasn't, it wasn't as deadly as they tried to make it out to me. But I think this whole thing was a control op. It was a mechanism. They had event 201 months before because they wanted to pre-plan. before they released it in China that we know of. We don't think China had an event 201 style simulation,

but the America did with all of our doctors, social media companies, mainstream media, Dr. Falsci. Well, there's people around the world that they invited to. Yeah, but they, it was mostly our people. It was John Hawkins University. It was it was the social media companies, it was mainstream media. It was all of these intelligence agencies.

And, but make no mistake, COVID was a weapon of mass destruction. That's what it was. He literally just told you that. Dr. Fachi was never elected to office. And I think we tend to forget that it's so hard to have oversight when it's not a government entity. Yeah. When it's a different entity, how do we protect our citizens from these other things? Well, you're talking about private corporations.

Right. Yeah. I mean, it's the same thing with the UFO program. It's the same thing with diverse engineering. It's the same thing with pharmaceutical. It's the same thing with the weapons of mass destruction. bio labs, all of that stuff is done outside of the purview or at least the, I guess, government hierarchy.

And that's how they do it to get away with it. Yeah, they get away with it. But I also think the government is part of it and they're the ones getting away with it. Well, of course they're a part of it. But that's what I'm trying to say. So since the FOIA Act came in play, which is a Freedom of Information Act, the government does something very smart. they move a lot of their stuff into private organizations, you know, and that's how they get away from the FOIA Act.

That's how they get away from a lot of these files that we're still dealing with today, like the JFK files and the UFO files and all this stuff. That's why it's so hard to get files like this for transparencies because they don't have to give you their files. They are private organizations that are heavily funded by the United States government. But the United States government understands that as long as it's not within our organizations, like, like our departments, and we basically, I guess you can say, subvert those things into private organizations, then we can get away with anything. We don't have to give files for shit because these are private entities and they don't have to comply with freedom of information acts and so on.

Even in some cases, like when's the last time, for example, that you've had a private person, like, for example, from Skunkworks or Lockheed or one of these other companies, whether it's about reverse engineering, UFO files. have you ever seen these people in Congress? Have they been subpoenaed? No, because they are so protected by the government. You don't even know who the hell to subpoena. They're not in the public facing or the public eye like Dr. Falki is.

So it was easy to subpoena him because he's ahead of the NIH. He was front and center during COVID. He was the one that was propagandized and everything. That's just the way it goes. And then as this guy also says, like the overrides, everything that Tulsi Gabbard has tried to do since her existence as the director of national intelligence has been overridden by the CIA, which is not at all the way it's supposed to happen. The CIA, as he said, literally came in and took 40 boxes of files.

Now, this is previous to the actual allegations from Representative Luna. Now, Luna said that I know, based on what people have told me, that Tulsi Gabbers' office was rated by the CIA, took all these files, the JFK files, MK Ultrafiles. And this guy, before that was even out from Representative Luna, this guy says under oath in Congress that we know the CIA came in and took 40 plus boxes of files from the DNI office, which is Tulsi Gabbard's office. So we know it's not bullshit. We know that happened.

And yet you have all these influencers now that are running to social media to try to say, oh, no, no, that didn't happen whatsoever. Don't worry, guys. And I think a lot of these influencers are trying to do this to protect Trump because they're trying to, because it sounds like Trump doesn't have control whatsoever of what the hell is going on. And he doesn't because neither did Biden, neither did so many presidents that we've known about. And the last time probably a president was trying to gain in rain control, they got

executed, which was JFK. And I think that was a direct message for all future presidents. you start screwing with the things and the way that our system works, we will put a bullet in your face. Like, that's just what's going to happen. And even the way that we've looked at these UFO people, the people that are connected to propulsion and, you know, reverse engineering that are disappearing or being suicided or being weirdly murdered in their front yards. This is what the intelligence agencies do if you step out of line. And so that is a very strong message for those people. And by the way, this guy went like towards the end of his speech.

He was getting emotional. Yeah, you guys couldn't see it. Yeah. But when he started talking about the whistleblower's protection. Yes. He was like. He said they're not protected. No, there's no protection.

And he was subpoenaed. He was forced to come and testify. I think he probably wanted to, but he was subpoenaed. Well, he was. And when he was saying that, he was probably thinking in his head, how long will I be alive after this? You know, because this. What I'm going to say, you know, it's going to ruffle a shit ton of feathers. It's going to confirm a lot of things that a lot of people have suspected, especially about COVID, all of that.

But the fact that he said, and as he had served during the 2024, 5 and part of 26 period, you know, everything that Tulsi Gabbard has done has been overridden is what it sounds like. They're not letting Tulsi Gabbard investigate a damn thing. and they're coming in and literally stealing boxes of files that she's trying to declassify. I think Tulsi is in there with her arms up to like, what is it called? Elbow deep. You know, she's elbow deep in the shit and she's trying to do what she possibly can to get what she came out. But she is being overridden. She is being ridiculed.

You have now the influencers and, you know, Laura Lumer and other. have been coming after her for at least six months. And just think about Joe Kent was her right-hand man. Kind of, yeah. I mean, she was over Joe Kent. Yeah. But Joe Kent was in that kind of aura, I guess you can say. And he was like, you know, I'm just done with it.

I can't be in this position and continue without telling the truth. Yeah. And then he also says like the CIA was retaliating against anyone that was close or investigating the lab leak theory. The people that were connecting with Wuhan Lab, the people that were talking. with the people that were close to ground zero that knew what happened. Those people were being monitored, retaliated against. The CIA was coming after them.

And even if you think about people like Dr. Robert Malone or in specific, Dr. Peter McCullough, now, Dr. Peter McCullough was not witness to ground zero or what the inner workings were of what was actually going on behind the scenes. But Dr. McCola, we've had on our show a couple of times. and he's one of my best friends, best friends. And, you know, when you talk to McCola and you hear everything he said, you know, that's literally what almost got Joe Rogan canceled. That was the one show over any show that Joe Rogan's ever done that almost got Joe Rogan

canceled was Dr. Peter McCola. When McCola came on as a heart doctor and someone that knows the human body probably better than damn near anybody, especially, you know, the cardiovascular system, how viruses work. He also does epidemiology and all that. This guy comes on and says, this is a bunch of bullshit. This is a pandemic. They're doing something.

And yet everyone tried to cancel them. They tried to take his medical license. They took his residency out of Baylor University or I guess he was a professor there. And he also had medical papers proving that other medicines were more beneficial towards COVID than what they were prescribing in the emergency rooms. Yes. And what did the government do? Well, they sued or tried to arrest people that said that, hey, vitamins work.

They tried to take vitamins off the market that were actually beneficial. And we're talking about like NAC in acetyl-sistine, which was something, by the way, before antibiotics were around NAC, NAC, you can find it at your local, I guess, vitamin shop. But that has been around since like the 40s or 50s. And that was what doctors gave people that had chest congestion or, you know, lung infections. They would give them knack and it would make, you know, it would alleviate the inflammation of the lungs. And so this has always been something that has worked for a very long time. And when the government found out that people were taking knack during COVID to save their life,

what did the government do? Well, the government moved to ban a knack off the shelves of all vitamin shops. And they did it primarily online. I know a lot of the local companies still had their, I guess, backup supply. and I think they've reversed that now. But the reality is it was like it was like the government wanted to kill you. Yeah, but I think Peter McCola, he was more into Ivermectin and hydrochloricloroquine. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, he was into those and he saw like really. Yeah, that's it. And he saw really promising benefits when he was prescribing him to his own patients. Yeah. And when he came out with a paper, because it was not peer reviewed by so many people, people, they called it false. Yeah. And also, keep in mind, this guy is also saying here in this testimony that the foreign

labs that we fund, aka Ukraine. Now, Ukraine had 14 or 15 or 16 bio labs on the border of Russia. Yep. And this was kind of right around COVID and all this shit was going down. You had, obviously, the Biden administration that was sending people to go talk to, you know, Vladimir Zelensky, that it was almost like they were trying to entice Russia to attack or just trying to, I don't know, trying to screw with them and say, yeah, we're going to bring you into NATO, don't worry, even though they knew that was Russia's red line.

But more specifically, you know, Russia had mentioned multiple times, like, we're not going to have, number one, U.S. weaponry on our borders. That's pretty obvious. Obviously, the United States is never going to allow that to happen. But number two, we're also not going to have bio labs on our border, which was like, Victoria Newland, I think was, I think it was Victoria Newler, whoever. She accidentally came out and said that. Yeah, she's like, yeah, yeah, there's bio labs in Ukraine.

There's like 13 or 14 of them, US funded, you know. It's all good, though. And then people wonder like, well, why would Russia ever attack Ukraine? But I just, my whole point to that intro was Dr. Falschi was extremely pivotal in the cover-up. And as he says, like, Dr. Falsci was collaborating with the CIA on multivocene, on multiple fronts talking about, hey, here's how we're going to frame this. Here's how we're going to say this. We're going to change the name of gain the function.

We're going to do all of this shit to make sure that we cover this up. And guys, what I'm asking you is, and the question I asked you at the beginning of this, why would the CIA be trying to cover for China? Because that's literally our biggest adversary in the entire world. We do anything and everything we possibly can to counter China all the time. So why would the CIA a United States intelligence? agency be trying to cover for China because it wasn't China's virus. It was a U.S. virus.

This was a CIA operation that either accidentally leaked or on purpose. And I think intentionally. Yeah, but our tax dollars were still funding that virus in Wuhan labs. Oh, absolutely. It was. I mean, and that's what we do. Like, even when, and by the way, after COVID and all that shit happened, there were multiple universities in the United States of America.

I believe Boston University. was one. I know they have a bat lab in Colorado. I know they have labs in California. Well, there's labs everywhere. Well, yeah, there were labs and still are labs in the United States of America that are actively working on coronavirus to gain a functionate. And so you would think that like after all of that shit that just happened with the pandemic, that that would never happen again, what is. And college campuses are actually doing it to this day. And that is what is the most mind-blowing thing that you can possibly imagine. Well, and with that being said, I just want to bring the Hanta virus up that was on the ship,

you know, and we just did a podcast about that the other day. It's just strange to me that the ground zero was at a landfill where a doctor was watching birds. But you think about a landfill, people go there every day and they dump their garbage. And they work there. And all of a sudden, this man comes down. with the virus and now he's able to spread it from human to human when it's normally just a rodent to human and they say that anti's virus has been around for a long time like since the 90s but but the difference is that from what we understand according to one of the lead hantavirus

experts that that virus has never spread person to person so which is it you know that's the thing and now all of a sudden is spreading and now you're starting here mainstream media talk about oh, this is more contagious than we once thought. We started hearing this shit during COVID. I'm not saying hentavirus is going to be a pandemic. No, I don't think so either. But I just think there's something fishy with it. But we also don't know, like, what the hell they got.

You know, we don't know how they may have manipulated hantavirus. So it's hard to say, like, could this thing actually be highly contagious? We don't know. Because we don't know what the hell they experimented with and how they may have gained a function in this virus. We don't know. Yeah. And in my opinion, they did gain a function of this virus because like we played on the last episode where the doctor, one of the leading hantavirus experts says this never spread human to human. Yeah.

And now all of a sudden it is. I did research it. It said that the Andes virus has been like that since the 90s. Well, that doctor said this never happened. Yeah. I don't know. Anyways, very strange, very interesting. I did want to play you guys this clip because Ryan Madda, he's out there.

He talks a lot on social media. I follow a lot of what he talks about. I did want to play kind of what he thinks about all the CIA Tulsi Gabbard stuff. Listen, in case you guys didn't hear, the CIA went into the offices of Tulsi Gabbard to the director of national intelligence, and they raided her office and they stole the documents that were related to, that we know of, that were related to the declassification of the MLK and the JFK files. Now, these are the files that our government told us the CIA told us never existed, that didn't exist. There was never any MK.

alter our mind control programs. Well, and it's kind of weird timing consider when we feel like our president is a mind-controlled puppet right now. We look at Joe Biden. We look at how is it possible that every time we get a president into office and he comes out swinging, he promises all the world, and then he gets into office and he doesn't carry or deliver on one of his campaign promises. President Trump made 21 campaign promises. This is what he ran his entire campaign on. And then he gets into office and it's like, boom, he doesn't follow through on any of them. And then watching last week when he was getting interviewed, and the reporter goes, well, hey, Mr. President, how do you feel about the American people getting crushed under the weight

of inflation because of this war? And President Trump looks at him and goes, honestly, I don't care about the American people. When I talk about the Iran war, the only thing I care about is them not having a nuke. And now everybody in our country knows that Iran never wanted to have a nuke. Iran never even really cared about nuclear energy or nuclear power. They were just doing it because you realize that if you don't acquire that type of power, well, then you're allowed to get blown up by every other country around you. and Israel wanted to wipe them off the map and take over half their country and subvert the will of their people and destroy their nation.

So it's like you look at what's going on in our country and you look at our CIA going in and raiding the offices of Tulsi Gabbar, the director of national intelligence. And you just ask yourself, like, what in the fuck is going on here, America? Because I don't know what country this is, but a country where the president gives an executive order and he has the military to back him up. And you have this rogue agency called the CIA ran by John Ratcliffe, who just happens to be one aligned to God's chosen people. and is obviously willing to sell it the American people, sent his thugs into the national director's office to raid them and seize their documents. Please tell me what the fuck is going on in our country. All right.

So that was Ryan Mata. And I agree. I mean, it's weird because you have presidents that campaign on all these things. And then they get in office and you're like, what the hell happened? Like, who has taken over this president? Because it's like nothing that we felt like this president. president was or what he stood for exists today. Well, maybe it's because the deep state ties their hands and they think they can get away

with it and go around the deep state or take the deep state out and they really can't. Yeah, but I know. But the thing is, when you think about Trump, though, for example, like Trump was one of those guys. And I think that's why everybody got behind Trump because everybody felt like Trump was not going to be the guy that they're going to control. Like there's no way that Trump is going to be controlled like Biden was. There's no way they're going to have any way to manipulate him or to do their bidding.

And yet it seems like 100% that's happening. And it's happening in plain view. It's happening every single time Trump talks. And yes, Ryan Matta is correct when he says that Trump was asked the other day about what he felt like as far as the Americans that were feeling like that, hey, look, you know, they're not able to pay for gas. There's inflation is spiking. They're still not able to afford groceries. Do you consider American financial situations in the Iran war any of that?

He says, I don't even think about American financial situations. Literally, that's what he said. I don't care. I don't even take that into my consideration whatsoever as far as the Iran war. That's literally word for word what he said. Yeah, but if he really has it in his mind that they have weapons of mass destruction or nuclear weapons, that's what is on his mind. And he doesn't care if our gas prices go up right now because he's trying to save lives if that's what he really thinks. Yeah, I don't think that's what he really thinks.

And I kind of do think he thinks that. Well, okay, but how do you, how does he think that when like the six months into his presidency, he said he blew the hell out of their nuclear program? It was obliterated. They're never going to have nukes again until Israel just so happened to attack Iran because Israel said, shit, we can't just have it at that. So we could attack Iran. And then Donald Trump comes on and he still bullshits about this Iran nuclear capability. And we know that Trump bullshits about it because we know from the actual inside report

that Benning Johnson himself, the Trump loyalist, the Trump influencer, all of the people that were around Trump, including Mark Rubio, J.D. Vance. literally everybody, General Raisin Cain, his main general. Everybody said after Benjamin Netanyahu's presentation about Iran, they all told Trump that he's full of shit. Yeah. And then what did Trump do the next day? Well, we got to stop Iran from nukes.

So Trump knew that they didn't have nukes. Yeah, but did he want, I don't think he wanted to be played by anyone. And he's trying to play it off. but now, you know, look at what B.B. is doing now. He's going after Turkey out of anybody. Well, yeah. I mean, he wants to go after. He wants to take over the entire Middle East. And he already said, he just said yesterday, he said, we're going to be a superpower. We're going to be one of the biggest superpowers in the world. And I think that the unfortunate part about this is, is that the United States is going to usher in Israel becoming potentially even bigger superpower than the United States or America. imagine that. Like imagine if that becomes the case because I think. Well, Mossad is like better than the CIA in a lot of ways.

I think the CIA and Mossad are one and one at this point. I really do. Like if we think about like the JFK files and and if Israel had involvement in the JFK assassination or or any of that stuff or or even 9-11 or Epstein. Any of that stuff. All of it. All of our major issues. Isn't it weird now that everyone's calling. Israel that had some part of it. Well, and like I said. 9-11 to JFK to COVID to anything. And listen, I'm not one of those people that want to just harp on something just to do it because

that's what people do. And actually, to be honest with you, it's like the thing not to do anymore is not to blame Israel. That like all of the mainstream tells you not to do it. All of the mainstream says if you criticize Israel, if you criticize any of their involvement in anything, whatever they're doing in the Middle East, you are anti-Semitic. but that's also kind of how you have to understand what to go after because anytime the mainstream media or the consensus tells you not to look here, you should definitely look there.

If they tell you, if they tell you to look the other way, you should definitely look that way, right? And so that's what I'm saying is like this is all a system that we should all be used to by now. We should all understand how this works. And unfortunately, a lot of us don't quite understand how it works still. And I think in large part, like, for example, Thomas Massey right now is up against Ed Gallorine in Kentucky. Ed Gowlerine is funded $12 to $13 million. We said this to the beginning by all Israel packs. These are all Israel funded donations to Ed Gallorine, which basically means whether Ed Gowlerine originally was pro-Israel or Israel first, he's going to be after this election.

Yeah. I mean, because if they buy his election, he has no choice. And that's just the way this system works. Well, and it's weird that you're talking about that because, you know, Trump never takes a paycheck as being president. But I just saw the other day that he has gained like multi billions of dollars just recently. Yeah. Yeah, he does. And net worth.

Yeah, for sure. And where did he get that? Well, and that's the way a lot of the politicians do, you know. And, but, you know, you say that he don't take, you know, like, I guess a paycheck, but also the reality, like Mary Adelson has paid him $250 million. And she's like one of the main pro-Israel donors. And there are various other Israel donors that do that as well. But I guess the question is, is like, you know, a lot of people feel like right now, the big divide in the Republican Party, period, is the Israel thing. It's the Israel cause.

And you might say, like, look, it's maybe Epstein or. this or that and it could be all of those things but there's a lot of people believe a lot of that stuff goes back to israel and we can't necessarily prove it but i think if you go to the epstein files you can kind of connect a lot of dots at the very least which is why we're never probably ever going to see the remaining three and a half million epstein files and i'm sure there are far more files than just that but it's also the same reason we're probably not going to see the jfk files or anything else all right guys one last clip i want to play to you mike bens talks about the c i's role in COVID and I think it's good because he breaks down some stuff we have not got to yet.

So listen. Tomorrow, a CIA whistleblower will testify before my committee that the intelligence community has covered up the origin of COVID for years. Evidence shows the U.S. government funded the research in Wuhan and the virus likely escaped from the lab. Tomorrow, there's going to be a formal CIA whistleblower testimony hearing in the Senate. CIA scientists concluded that COVID came from a lab leak. Then someone scribbled out their conclusion at 2 a.m. and changed the report.

Holy shit, dude. This is something we've spent a lot of time on these streams going over. The CIA's role in COVID. Top the bottom. In the creation of COVID, in the censorship of COVID, in the cover-up of COVID, it was a military operation and to a significant, but slightly lesser, but related extent, a CIA operation because of the CIA's role in clandestine support for the military. Remember, the CIA only has two reasons to live.

live as covert support for the State Department or as covert support for the military. It is the ugly stepchild of the State Department, Department of War, dual nexus of national interest, national security, just as plausibly denial of dirty work for either our national interests or for national security, for our economic and diplomatic interests or for our military interests. And USAID, of course, provided $15 million worth of funding to the Wuhan lab. And as I have said many times when it's too dirty for the CIA, you give it to USAID. Any long-term CIA covert action becomes a USAID program over time. Let me just make this as patently clear as humanly possible. On a long enough timeline, every CIA program becomes a USAID program. And the reason for-

And by the way, I want to stop for a second. You remember USAID, right? That's what the Doge was supposed to do. And then Elon got a black eye. That shit just completely wrapped up. We found out about some of their stuff, but that stuff ended very quickly. And you might wonder why. Well, USAID, as Mike Ben says here, was kind of like a money laundering organization from the CIA to do all of their really dirty work. More specifically, stuff that we never even found out about when Elon Musk was investigating through Doge, USAID, but we know that USAID was heavily funding Wuhan Lab.

And it sounds like they were just funding Wuhan because of this was a CIA operation, but they wanted to not have it on American soil when they did whatever they were going to do, which was likely potentially purposely released the virus, then they could blame it on China. This is a logistical one. If you think about how a CIA activity starts, you have basically covert action. 50 from Linda WPHD, what I want to know is who are the projection. janitors of the projects where the idea of people who go to the CYAers who implement the plan were usually upstream. A good primer on that is Chris Newby's book Bitten about Lyme disease.

This is a good short book. This is good because it basically goes through internal government military documents on the biological warfare programs. And you can see how that trickles down into the scientific community and the Montana Rocky Mountain Lab, which, as we've gone over many times, played the key role in both COVID-19 and Lyme disease. And then I did another post on this, because there was another attempt at smuggling. Someone just got indicted for trying to smuggle BSL-4-level viral pathogens to this same lab that was used for both COVID and Lyme. In the 1950s, the U.S. government in the middle of the Cold War, they viewed biological warfare agents as a humane alternative to kinetic war or to nuclear weapons. If you could create destabilizing sublethal illnesses that could destabilize a country,

country economically and destabilize them militarily but would not result in hundreds of thousands of deaths, then that was viewed as a humane alternative to murdering hundreds of thousands of people or doing the Hiroshima option. And so starting, I believe, in the Korean War in 1950, but then released in the late 1950s with Cuba in our attempt to roll back the Cuban revolution under Fidel Castro, the U.S. military, together with the CIA, devised a plan to do games. into function research on ticks and basically bugs and insects, superjuice them with diseases, pathogens, viruses, and then drop large quantities of those ticks and insects over the agricultural crop workers in Cuba, the sugar cane and fruit and agricultural base of Cuba that forms its

main export to the world, so that since there was not the ability to declare war on Cuba militarily. The idea was, without having to militarily invade Cuba, which we don't have the public will for, this is what Operation Northwoods was about, trying to create a pretext to convince the American people in Congress to declare war on Cuba. The idea was, rather than killing hundreds of thousands of them or invading militarily, we could force them to their knees by having a freak, this was the language, right, a man-made virus, which would appear to be a biological origin. We went over the receipts on this many times. This was in the JFK files released in March of last year, 1962, I think it was.

The group, the special group, then turned to a discussion of agricultural sabotage. General Carter from the military emphasized the extreme sensitivity of any such operation in the disastrous results that would flow from something going wrong, particularly if there was obvious attribution to the U.S. He went on to say, however, there would be possible to accomplish this purpose, agricultural sabotage by methods more subtle than those indicated in the paper. He specifically mentioned the possibility of producing crop failures by the introduction of biological agents which would appear to be of natural origin, but they were not of

natural origin. Biological agents, which would appear to be of natural origin, he's talking about souping up Lyme disease in ticks, dropping them in Cuba, and then pretending like it came from ticks, not from military scientists at the Rocky Mountain Lab. Goes on to say, we could induce crop failures in Cuba by introducing biological agents, which would appear to be of natural origin. Mr. Bundy said he had no worries that any such sabotage, which could be clearly made to appear to be the result of local Cuban disaffactation or of a natural disaster, but that we must

avoid external activities such as the release of chemicals unless they could be completely covered up. So we should only air drop ticks with Lyme disease on Cuba if we can argue that it naturally came from ticks, not from the U.S. military, and we could cover up the U.S. role in planting them in Cuba. It goes on here. Again, this is all public declassified documents that were classified for 60 years until just last year. I can't believe this thing only got one point. I'm grateful to get a million views on something. But we did this in a private stream in our JFK file. stream. And I feel like this should be public knowledge. It's so incredible. Now it says on a most discreet, strictly need to know basis. Defense, to the War Department, is to submit a plan by February

2nd on what it can do to put a majority of workers out of action in Cuba in order to economically destabilize them, to force them to their knees so that the U.S. can win Havana back. So this is a most discreet, strictly need to know basis. Defense is putting together a plan to put a majority of Cuba's agricultural workers out of action, unable to work in the cane fields and sugar mills for a significant period during the remainder of the harvest, it is suggested that such planning consider non-lethal biological warfare, BW, biological warfare, insect-borne. Now, you guys see the brackets around non-lethal, insect-borne biological warfare agents? That's because that was classified until March 2025. And this is just batch released in the JFK files. I mean, this is an unbelievable

disclosure that should be taught in history books to every American introduced secretly. So this is the U.S. military with a plan to put Cuban sugar cane and cane field workers out of action by secretly introducing non-lethal, insect-borne, biological warfare agent. to the target area in Cuba by the Navy. And this is biological warfare information for this planning can be obtained from Mr. Robert Edwards at Fort Detrick, Maryland, the same place where the anthrax strain was amazingly taken after 9-11 to drum up the anthrax, the al-Qaeda anthrax scares. If you remember the samples when it was discovered that actually the anthrax strains after 9-11

that were targeting members of Congress who were hesitant. to declare war in Iraq. It was discovered that they were actually a military strain from Fort Dietrich, the same lab used in Lyme. And Mr. Cornelius Roosevelt at CIA, okay? The plan will require policy approval before implementation. So this is a Department of War, biological warfare plan to drop a sublethal animal-borne virus, but the animals were gain of function freak given the virus by military scientists,

working together with the government-funded lab and the same. CIA, who is taking care of the planning details. Okay. So what you have is a military biological warfare program that is being spearheaded clandestinely by the CIA. That is, I think, a very telling anecdote for how you have, for example, who was Tony Fauci? He was a military guy. He ran NIAID. 20 from Linda W PhD research indicates that messages have to be repeated seven times before customers start to grasp them. Not surprising these connections aren't sticking. I think they will. I think they will. I haven't made a crusade out of it. I think I talked about Joe Rogan offhandedly, but I don't think I put the receipts on screen, which is a miss. But I actually think

that with the CIA hearing tomorrow with Rand Paul, I've been meaning, I haven't even clipped our like five-hour super stream on Johns Hopkins and Event 201 and Avril Haynes, which is another huge thing here because coming back to this Rand Paul thing, CIA scientists concluded that COVID came from a lab. Well, who was the, deputy head of the CIA. Again, the deputy is more in the weeds than the director. In any, whether it's state department, Department of War, CIA, USA, the administrator, the director, the number one has to deal with the interagency, the stakeholder consensus, the political, the funding. The head of the agency doesn't do the in the weeds work. People report up to the deputy is the

workhorse, the keeper of all of the knowledge. In fact, there are many things that the deputy will deliberately not tell the head of the agency and that the head of the agency will tell the deputy don't tell me this because it's the head of the agency who gets called to testify before Congress. And they want to be able to say to Congress, I have no information about that. I haven't heard anything about that. Not to my knowledge. And if there's some written communication from the deputy to the administrator about those details, then the plausible liability is blown. So it's the deputy who really runs the nitty gritty and is the keeper of secrets, much more so than the actual head of the agency. The head of the agency is, for the most part, the veto vote on the deputy.

But the deputy is the workhorse, the grunt, and the keeper of secrets. And the deputy head of the CIA, when the U.S. military and ODI and I and CIA were working on gain of function coronaviruses in 2015, the deputy head of the CIA was Avril Haynes. Avril Haynes then played the key role in representing the U.S. intelligence community in the event 201, coronavirus outbreak pandemic simulator in October 2019, and then was made the head of the OD&I by the Biden administration day one, January 2021 at the peak point of the virus. Why was Avril Haynes made the head of the OD&I? The most important geopolitical issue, trade issue, intelligence issue, global issue at that time in January

2021, and for all of 2021, was COVID-19. So how did Avril Haynes become the head of the entire intelligence community? Probably because she was the keeper of secrets from the CIA about the coronavirus outbreak in the first place. And we know that, for example, Ralph, and we covered this multiple times on stream, but I'll just play the greatest hits again. In September 2015, the CIA and OD and I reached out to Ralph Barrick to discuss a possible project in coronavirus evolution in adapting coronavirus to humans. Less than two months later, Ralph Barrick and Zhang Li Shi, Dr. Zhang Li Shi, the Bat Lady, the Wuhan Institute of Virology Bat Lady. This is her. Zhang Li Shi, the Bat Lady. Two months after Ralph Barak meets with the CIA in 2015 to discuss adapting gain of function coronaviruses with bats,

he meets up with the Bat Lady to publish a SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses, shows potential for human emergence, funded through U.S. AIDS Predict Program, funded through USAID, which gets back to this USAID CIA thing. In 2018, Barak and She, Ralph Berrick and She, the Bat Lady in China, were listed as collaborators on the proposal to DARPA to insert a Fern cleavage site into a coronavirus, which is the defining feature of COVID-19. DARPA is, again, the U.S. military. And then January 2020, right as the outbreak is happening, Berrick was summoned to the ODNI, which would come to be run one year later by Avril Haines, who was the deputy head of the CIA when they first started working together and who was a key player at the Event 201.

But Ralph Berwick was summoned by OD&I's biological sciences experts groups to brief officials from OD&I and CIA on origins of the coronavirus, discussing a possible accidental lab release at the WUNA Institute of Vibrology, the very place Ralph Barak was working with the Wuhan Institute of Virologies Batley. including a proposal to insert a fern cleavage site into a coronavirus, which is the defining biological feature of COVID-19. And not only that, Ralph Barrett even mentions in this exact set of receipts, he says to the CIA, you guys see this here? So this is September 2015. Barack Obama is still in office. Avril Haynes is the deputy director of the CIA. The CIA, c.gov, writes to Ralph Barrett. you get an email from CIA.gov as Ralph Barrick saying request for your expertise. This is in 2015 or Obama. The CIA writes to Ralph Barrett, Ralph, I just wanted to reach out again to see if you

would have a chance next week to discuss a possible project. And what does Ralph Barrett reply to the CIA and to the director of national intelligence? My apologies for not responding earlier. I was traveling through Montana out of touch probably because he's electronic skin and skiff. Unfortunately, I have to leave for Beijing on Saturday. So can we do next week? So he's going straight from Montana to Beijing. Where do you think he was in Montana? But you know the answer to this. Montana was the site. This was the Rocky Mountain Lab, the same lab that the military used. Again, military and CIA to create sublethal biological warfare agent viruses, which would appear to come from an animal. Tony Fauci run lab in Montana, that's the Rocky Mountain Lab. They say Tony Fauci run, but it's NIAID. It's military run.

It's the military medical agency that Tony Fauci is in charge of. Experimented with coronavirus strain shipped in from Wuhan a year before the COVID pandemic began. And again, a year before is so relevant because a year before is when DARPA had a proposal to insert a fern cleavage site into a coronavirus. And Ralph Barrick and his Chinese Wuhan Institute, virology partner Bat Lady were listed as collaborators on that proposal to insert the fern cleavage site into coronavirus. Now, the official story on this is that it was a proposal, but it was never implemented. But what if it was? What if it was implemented by Ralph Barrick and Zhang Li Shee in secret at the Rocky Mountain Lab in Montana, the same lab that produced Lyme disease,

in which we now know, thanks to declassified records, were literally planned to be used to accidentally leak them into Cuba and, quote, drop biological agents, which should appear to be of natural origin, and then completely cover up the U.S. role in it, the Rocky Mountain Lab in Montana. So while Ralph Barrett is working with the CIA and ODI&I and his research is being funded by USA and the military, gain of function operations, again, research. But that exactly lines up. Working directly with the CIA, ODI and I, the military gain of function lab in Montana, and Beijing, where his partner, the bat lady, saying Lee She, they were mutually working on a U.S. military project

and U.S. aid funded project worth tens of millions of dollars to do this for the military. Does that make sense in terms of answering? Yeah, it makes sense. And I need a vacation. Remember this. Listen, Mike Ben's given the props, he went through all of this to connect all the dots.

And I do encourage you guys. I will actually, let me repost this right now on our X post. So if you guys want to see the whole video, there's six minutes left of this video of Mike Ben's connecting all the dots. I'd literally just repost it on our X account, Investigator of the podcast. This is not a China virus, guys. This is an American virus.

This is a CIA intelligence virus. This is literally what the whistleblower in front of Congress said to you. Yeah. Weapon of mass destruction. Yes. And he also mentioned M.K. Ultra and Jeff K. During his, like, initial speech. Yeah, because all of those are.

kind of connected, right? I mean, and they are and they aren't. But the CIA has been doing this for a long time on other countries. They, Lyme disease and all this stuff. If you think about the Rocky Mountain Labs, have you guys ever heard of Rocky Mountain spotted fever from ticks? Is that kind of weird?

Well, what about the Lone Star Tick that's like really getting out of the GAL syndrome? Yes. To where you can eat meat. But then you have to start asking yourself if, you know, we've always heard the CIA was never to operate. on U.S. soil. They were always to operate outside of U.S. soil to protect national security. But so you think about that and you're like, okay, well, cool. Then the CIA is protecting us from

foreign adversaries or terrorists or whatever the case is. But we 100% know Edward Snowden, all the other whistleblowers, that the CIA listens to all of our conversations. They spy on us on a regular basis. So if they're doing that, think about the fact of all these programs that the CIA has had and utilized against other nations to disrupt their agriculture, to disrupt their governments, to disrupt their way of life, everything that they once felt like was a normal way of life. They have programs. They have biological weapons.

They have all of these things to disrupt countries, to overthrow governments, to create coups. So as we say, like the CIA, I think is heavily connected to Mossad. And I think that just the same way that the CIA, we know spies. on us on an everyday basis. Do you not think that they would also do shit like this to hurt Americans? Oh, well, and think about like just the major viruses that come out every four years, which is really strange.

I'm talking about like the swine flu, the bird flu, like all these different flues. They've all been gained a function. But if you look at them and you look at the timeline, the timeline is very specific to voting times. Yeah, for sure. Well, either way, I think that we, unfortunately, guys, we have a really. rogue government. I mean, I hate to say that, but we do. And when I say rogue, I think because the way we look at government, like our elected officials, quote unquote, and our presence we put in place, those people are not really the ones that are controlling the shots. They're not the ones that are

actually controlling the United States of America. And that's why I think that Trump thought he could do a better job than what he actually can do, because he thought he could control like this deep state or this, whatever it is that he's, you know, bargaining with. And now it's he's not, it's not working. But listen, the guys that he's up against, the intelligence agencies, they are the best at manipulation. That's what they do. That's how they train their officers.

And they know exactly how to control Trump. And they know exactly how to make Trump believe whatever the hell it is. They're going to put people in place around Trump that are going to, that are going to say the right things that are going to influence him in the right ways, that are going to do whatever they can to make sure that he feels. like he's in control because that's what they'll always let you do they'll they'll let you feel like you're in control but you're really not and that's just the way it is right now but i think the biggest thing from this entire podcast is sounds like covid 19 was a u.s virus it's i mean we knew ralph barrick

we've talked about him the entirety of the covid 19 episodes we did back in 2020 21 and his involvement with the gain of function stuff uh although we did know that he potentially was connected or in some way, I guess, in collaboration with DARPA, which is basically a government, military, biological in most cases, a unit. But yeah, it's pretty mind-blowing. But do you remember when the coronavirus started hitting and Trump was like, oh, fuck, everything's great. Our economy is great.

Everything's perfect. And I thought at first, well, maybe this is a way to take him down because he's doing so good. But do you remember when he would come on every day and he'd say, yeah, this is the China virus. But I don't think he really knew anything different. Like, I don't know that he knew. Well, that's what they were pushing to him. Yeah, because I don't think he knew the behind the scenes thing that was really going on.

He just knew it was from China. Yeah, but I almost think that it was reverse psychology. Like mainstream media, because look, the mainstream media is a part of this whole sciop. and when mainstream media continually was like, no, no, it's definitely not China virus. Nope, they didn't leak it. They didn't leak it. It was almost like they wanted you to believe 100% it was a China virus and it was reverse psychology.

And this is something that probably someone in an intelligence operation. But it did leak from China. It did, but likely on purpose by way of probably U.S. intelligence, I would guess. But do you remember when they first came out and they said they came from the animal? Yeah, I get it. Yeah, the bats. Yeah. and from a wet market.

Yeah, the wet market. But what I'm saying is, is like, how hardcore mainstream media was trying to tell you it didn't come from China. It was almost reverse psychology to make you 100% believe that it came from China. And although, yes, it likely leaked from China, but we sent it to China. It was our research that we sent to China, put in a China lab that just so happened to leak. I get that, but I don't think Trump knew that. Do you?

No, I'm not saying he knew that. No, of course he didn't. That's what I'm trying to tell you is. They manipulate him. They sciop him into whatever the hell they want him to believe. And look, Trump is a perfect, I guess, culprit for if you want to control someone and you want them to believe that they are like the God and the leader or whatever, it's so easy with Trump. Because all you got to do is just blow smoke up his ass, tell them all these things and say,

you're going to go down in history for this, just like they did with the COVID thing. And they're doing it with Iran now. And it's no different. It's just now it's Iran. And then it was COVID. And it's going to be something else. So guys, I don't know. Let us know what you think.

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