Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Covid 19 Conspiracy Podcasts with Australian Attorney| Australia Lockdown Update | New Varient

Episode Date: March 19, 2022

So with the Russia Ukraine war, we have not heard much about Covid 19 lately. China is now under the strictest lockdowns since early 2020 with a new varient spreading. We talk with a human rights atto...rney out of Australia on the past Australian lockdowns and what may be to come. We also talk about how this upcoming lockdown may be the toughest yet.

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Starting point is 00:00:20 And welcome to And welcome to investigate earth I breathe you out Be higher It's only fair We let each other go without And welcome to Investigate Earth podcast
Starting point is 00:02:09 I'm your host Chad Alongside my wife Sherry Welcome to the podcast guys Hello guys What's up Hope everyone is doing amazing It is 1130 at night here On the east coast of the United States
Starting point is 00:02:21 On March 18th, 2022 We thank all of you guys for tuned in with us tonight. Yeah, and we're just going to say, I was just jamming on that song. Yeah, it was a great song. I love that. It's a great song. That is a lost touch by Flux Vortex.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Um, good song. But, uh, guys, so we are doing yet again another COVID-19 podcast. And we have, you know, I know a lot of you guys have been missing this stuff because I know that you guys have thought about the fact that like, where is Dr. Falschey been? Where has COVID went? Yeah. Where did everything go? It is reemerging, just as we thought it would.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Tonight we actually have a special guest on the podcast tonight. It is Attorney Tara from Australia, and we're going to bring her on. We've been talking about this podcast. We've been trying to plan it for some time now, probably a couple months at least. And so obviously, Australia and U.S. time is tough, and it's tough to kind of coordinate everything. So for us, it's 11.30 a night. For them, it's an afternoon. But we're going to have her on.
Starting point is 00:03:22 She has been fighting some. I guess what you would call the good fight in Australia, especially for the lockdowns and just for human rights and the basic, you know, basically what everyone is seeing and during this whole COVID-19 thing is like if you had a lawyer, you want someone that's going to fight for what you... Exactly. You're right.
Starting point is 00:03:44 And that's where we're at. And what's so funny is, it's not funny, but I almost believe that this war, the Ukraine-Russia war, is put everybody's mind on that. And we're less focused on COVID. While they're getting everything else ready, yeah. Yeah, while they're second phase. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:01 And now everybody's like, did you hear about China? We're going to have another lockdown. Exactly. This is going to happen, you know? So guys, so before we get started, by the way, you know, this is an Australia, United States communication over the Internet. So if we do get disconnected or whatever the case is, be patient with us, they are kind of out in the, I don't know if it's probably not the outback.
Starting point is 00:04:22 It's in the kangaroo area. Kangaroo area. Okay. Or the Kuala area. But anyways, so let's bring on Tara now. And her husband also may join us as well. But Tara, can you hear us? Let me make sure that we have everything here. Okay, can you hear us, Tara.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Yeah, we can hear you. Are you there? Yeah, we are here. Welcome to Investigate Earth. Hi. Hey, guys. So this is Tara and Luke. And so Tara and Luke, tell us, I guess, briefly,
Starting point is 00:04:52 where you guys live in Australia. Do you live on a west coast, east coast? Like, what is your situation over there? Yeah, we're on the east coast of Australia. We are in Queensland, and nowhere near Sydney. But we're actually in the west at the moment, probably about two hours west. So we actually did see a kangaroo jumping across the road. That is so freaking amazing.
Starting point is 00:05:22 But they will beat your ass, though, too. Oh, I know. I know they'll kick you. Yeah, the big rats, you don't want to go have a fight with them. But it's so awesome just to even be able to see that, you know? Especially after all the wildfires. Do you guys have bears over there? You got, they have koala bears. Yeah, but there's an argument that you don't call them bears.
Starting point is 00:05:43 They're just koalas. Yeah. Okay, so koala. But there's a book about that. It's a kid's book, right. Right. They're koalas. We don't see much of them, but if you look up, sometimes you might.
Starting point is 00:05:52 mostly we see where we are a lot of kangaroos and bugs and spiders okay yeah i've heard about australian spiders they scare they scared the hell out of me but yeah and you guys have the brown snake in australia you got the i think also the fierce snake in australia i think that's another we have a typan yeah typan and they're pretty much the most dangerous snakes some of the most dangerous snakes in the world but we we have some brown snakes It's not probably apparently, but we haven't seen them. That's scary. I don't want to see them.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Yeah, that's scary. All right. So, Tara, so this podcast is about COVID-19. And by the way, you know, it's funny because we've been covering the Russia-Ukraine war quite a bit lately, and it's because of what everybody's been covering. But in reality, our most popular podcast that we've ever done has always been, it's always been COVID because, I mean, COVID affects everyone's life around the entire world. it is a in my opinion and a podcast opinion a giant they're using COVID as a giant power grab this is something that they're using to have an excuse to take away your rights and in many different um whether it be constitutions or rules or rights of people they always use a medical they've always had like a medical exemption as far as your rights go and this is this is part of the problem that we've seen across the world they say oh because it because of COVID and
Starting point is 00:07:20 and if you're sick, then it affects other people. They use that as an excuse to affect rights. But we've talked about Australia. We've talked about kind of what happened to Australia. And from the United States standpoint and many other countries, Australia was the first one to kind of go in almost a tyrannical state. Yeah, we were the test, we were the test sample, like we were testing that to see how it would affect the rest of everybody else, I think. So tell me your experience.
Starting point is 00:07:50 from, you know, just, I guess you can kind of start from the beginning, how it started in Australia, how quick it ramped up, and kind of, you know, and also what you do, I guess start off with who you are, what you do, and then kind of talk about the Australia experience of COVID. Yeah, sure. Okay. I represent people, a human rights lawyer, in particular, employment and discrimination law, I work in the federal system here. which is the whole of the country. And I found a very tough finding justice in the system. And so I took a break. So I sort of unwind and find some other medium to get through that time away. And during that time, I spent seven months working from home as a lawyer. And it did really affect us.
Starting point is 00:08:50 We didn't do, there wasn't much happening here. It was sort of like around the world, this thing was out and everybody had to stay indoors. And it was a bit of a joke at first. We wear the mask or whatever. And I never really wanted to do that. And when I moved to the Gold Coast, which is on the East Coast, I saw a news article saying that, you know, people needed to be monitored. They needed to stop people just spreading misinformation. and tried to restrict people's freedom to speak
Starting point is 00:09:23 and acquire information of their own free will, you know, away from math media. And I sort of, like, that caught me and I thought, you know, absolutely not. This is against our rights. You know, we shouldn't be monitored. We should have the freedom to speak to be able to find information and to make a choice about what we want to do. And at that time, I mean, in Queensland, we'd only had maybe one, or two cases.
Starting point is 00:09:50 And the year before, the flu itself killed more people than COVID and more people in hospital, about 68,000 in hospital. And that, they declared an emergency. So to limit your rights, they have to be able to declare health emergency and they declare a health emergency and basically gives them rights to encroach on your freedoms of movement. throughout the states. I mean, friends of ours couldn't, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:23 they had their brother died and they couldn't come back for the funeral. And they had to wait for like to quarantine for two weeks. And they were lucky to come back for it. And lots of stories about that. And then I started getting, because I started speaking up about human rights and having the choice to do things of your own body
Starting point is 00:10:44 and having, you know, freedom of your liberty and choice, I started noticing on my professional profile that government agencies like the Home Affairs, which is a security agency here, and pharmaceutical companies, the actual health minister, the Department of Health here, looking at my profile. And I thought, well, this is really odd. If I'm just expressing legal rights, as we've always had it, why am I getting these people visiting my profile, like a warning almost? And you're talking about like LinkedIn, right?
Starting point is 00:11:19 Yeah, LinkedIn. Yeah. Yeah. And I've been, lately, it's been much more. But, and so I so thought,
Starting point is 00:11:30 because I was in the fence about getting the vaccine at this time, I was still walking, we're still walking around in shopping centers, going shopping, we're still walking around. At this point,
Starting point is 00:11:40 it was just wearing masks. And at this point, it wasn't, they weren't mandating, the vaccine and they weren't forcing people to have it. But that's when I started investigating
Starting point is 00:11:53 okay, well what's going on? Why am I being looked at? And then I went down many rabbit holes, but information was there for me to see and it was quite disturbing and it definitely changed my mind about not only
Starting point is 00:12:07 the vaccine but also what was behind the vaccine, what the motive was. Because then I started predicting things. And part of that was that to force people to do something, you take away their livelihood, and
Starting point is 00:12:26 that's when they started bringing in the mandates for all the public sectors. So, healthcare workers, disability workers, and... It's a loophole. It's kind of a loophole in human rights. I mean, if you really think about it, I mean, even the United
Starting point is 00:12:42 States Constitution, they didn't say that you're not allowed to do this if you don't do this, but they got the business sector and the companies. They forced them to do the mandates and therefore forcing you to either live or not based on whether you get a vaccine or not. Yeah, and that's the thing. It's changed a little bit now, but at first it was, you know, you're a disability worker and I was representing disability workers for helping them.
Starting point is 00:13:12 And there was parents of disabled people. there was doctors saying we don't care with disabled people saying we don't care if they're vaccinated that basically the order said you have to be vaccinated to look after these people they actually the human rights of the disabled people were breached as well because
Starting point is 00:13:28 they should be treated as much as possible a normal person as a person without a disability and they were forced into a position of not being able to have the opportunity to have treatment or to have care because the disability
Starting point is 00:13:44 worker was then forced into making decision about their own personal health and care of the people they were looking after so you sacrifice yourself or you sacrifice them and that's pretty much how it's been you you target the health workers you target people in these situations and they use those people and said these are high risk you're you know the poor old people in the homes the people in hospitals and disability sector and that was the the way that they reached that to enforce protecting your community and protecting those vulnerable people. But it's moved across from being just the vulnerable people into everybody now. Now, Tara, tell me, tell me, was Australia, you know, that's always something that, you know, when we talk on this podcast about Australia, it's always something that, I don't know, I mean, did you consider Australia a free country before COVID?
Starting point is 00:14:42 Oh yeah, I mean look Our nation is built on the working class Fighting against tyranny And we fought for rights You know back in 1900s I think just off to America You know the rights to vote for men Aboriginal people
Starting point is 00:14:59 We have had a strong Background of Governments which Support you know the people Their rights and the working rights And slowly I sort of saw that diminishing probably around 2.15
Starting point is 00:15:15 when I started noticing the laws and I was still studying at this point just finishing the freedom of associating with barkeys here was a big thing they took away
Starting point is 00:15:27 they took away if you were associated with a bike bike member if you were talking to them you could be made a criminal basically be charged
Starting point is 00:15:36 of a what member what is it uh so uh motorcycle gangs. Oh, okay, I got to. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:44 We have a lot of motorcycle gangs in Australia. They're quite proficient in the criminal activity here. Yeah. But basically they start with something like that to and still fear. And say, well, these people are really bad. How do we control that? Well, we don't want them to associate and neither should you with them. So we're going to stop those limit association with people like that.
Starting point is 00:16:10 And also stop people from protesting because we had a big climate change, big climate change back in here as well. And people being fined for protesting. And it was never the case. It was always, you know, we protested about nuclear weapons. We protested about our working rights. And all of a sudden, we can't do those things without fear of being fined anymore. Okay. Well, do you think, okay, so Australia wanted to lie.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Like, how hardcore was the lockdowns do you think? I mean, you know, just based on us over here in the United States, I mean, you know, the United States media pushed Australia like, you know, especially the conservative, right, you know, the right wing media. They pushed the fact that Australia was getting royally screwed, I guess you can say. I mean, was it as bad as people around the world heard about it being as bad, I guess? Yeah. Oh, look, look, we went to have. some McDonald's the other day and um so i went on lockdown they've just um lifted the masks wearing the mask uh we could go in an order uh but we couldn't sit down there because we're not vaccinated
Starting point is 00:17:22 seriously so yeah and i yeah so um i mean that's that's that's that is worse that's than the last time i went in and i couldn't i couldn't get served because i didn't have a mask and but this time it's like we don't you don't need masks but now you need to show that you give vaccinated. So we can't go into a pub, a club, a sporting event, any, any sort of community events without showing some sort of, we've got this app on our phone, why I don't have it, but people have apps on their phone that show their vaccination status is a green tick. And if you don't show that, those people can apparently lawfully turn you away. Okay, and I want to stop you there right for a second.
Starting point is 00:18:09 So you said they have an app on your. phone. Is this like a nationwide thing in Australia? Yeah. Wow. So a digital passport, basically. Yeah. You have to register to your vaccination status with the government. The government provide you some sort of, you know, authority. Yeah. And it comes up on your phone with a special green tick. And that is how you can show you.
Starting point is 00:18:41 So, Tara, how did you, okay, it was your husband, right, that listened to our podcast is how you kind of found us? Yeah. Yeah. Luke, say hello to everyone around the world, Luke. Hello, everyone. Thanks for having to have to the one. So, Luke, thank you for listening to our podcast, number one, because I'm glad we met you guys. We've talked to you guys a few times.
Starting point is 00:19:04 We talked to both of you, and you guys are awesome. I think you guys are great people that are doing a really good. thing for humanity. I mean, and just, you know, even though you guys are in Australia, which by the way, when I was looking up all this nuclear war stuff, Australia is like the safest country from a nuclear war
Starting point is 00:19:23 in the world. So I was like... Well, go figure, look at that world map and where they're located. Yeah. So you guys, we're going to come to you guys. Yeah, we're coming to your house. It's probably because we've got to love uranium here, and no one wants to bomb us for that reason. Yeah, and if they bomb
Starting point is 00:19:39 the United States, the jet stream and all that goes, it doesn't affect Australia. Oh, that's awesome. It will eventually, but it would take a while. That goes away from them. Yeah, but anyways. So Luke, so you started listening to us, I guess, and so what, and I think I ask you this, but you may not remember exactly.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Like, what, how did you find us? And the reason I'm asking that is because, because what I'm about to talk about, especially with this digital ID passport thing that you're talking about, how did you find us Luke and what were you looking up if you remember um i was i was looking a lot at like the whole great uh reset thing okay and um i just seen you guys come up and i'd know i just like the name and i listened to i can't remember which um podcast was it must have been one very similar yeah and um yeah i just i really enjoyed it and i was thinking you know these guys they talk a lot about exactly what Tara and I talk about every night for hours on end.
Starting point is 00:20:45 And I told Tyra, I said, oh, you need to listen to these guys, check them out. And, yeah, she finally did. And then I heard you guys saying, you know, asking people, especially in Australia, to reach out. And that's what I told her that she should shoot you guys a message. And she did. And then, yeah. Yeah, that's so cool. because we've had a lot of people from Australia
Starting point is 00:21:09 reach out, like email or whatever, just giving us their life, like what their life is like now. We've had like only a couple people that's like, well, I live here and I'm in the middle of nowhere and I don't give a damn what the government says because I just go fish and I, there's a, what I have found about the Australia podcast
Starting point is 00:21:28 is there is a lot of self-sustainable people out there as far as in different places that don't give a damn about grocery stores even. Like there are people that live, by the water, they go fish and catch and cook and everything they do is their natural resources there, which is pretty cool. Oh, yeah, we have the environment to do that. And I'm really, sorry, to interrupt, I've really, I got contacted by a lady who's seen co-ops all over the country, which is people, doctors, lawyers, farmers, people that own, like, you know, come together and create their own business. and sort of use it to connect and find services for each other.
Starting point is 00:22:13 That's cool. And set up an alternative community outside of the mainstream, you know, social community that we're used to now. And set up our own sort of community deciding on our own understanding of rights to do that because we can. We're not restricted if we find alternative ways. Yeah. So you guys, and Luke was just saying that you guys talk about, you know, some of the things that we talk about in the podcast, and we're about to get into this, to this ID, this vaccine ID thing. But so what you and Luke talk about, say you guys are out in the, on your back porch or whatever. By the way, I've seen somebody else's pictures of your house, like, or wherever. I don't know. Do you all live in the country? Like, you can just see for miles kind of?
Starting point is 00:23:05 Yeah. Yeah. Okay. There's hills on flat and these hills. We're driving at the moment through very green hills and very ancient sort of looking mountains. I think Aboriginal culture is the oldest culture in Australia, but in the world. But yeah, so it's very different scenery everywhere you go here. So you guys talk about stuff like we talk about on the podcast, like Great Reset or like, or not even the Great Reset, but like, why is this?
Starting point is 00:23:35 happening and like what is what is the root of why all of this is coming into play and so how do you you know how do you as a as an attorney number one i i think you had told me i think previously that a lot of the stuff you have been doing since covid has been more so a passion project for you know obviously human rights rather than you know hey how much can i get paid to do this and I think it's because your belief, your core belief of, like, I got to find the truth, and I don't want to make a difference, right? Yeah, because when we did go, when people restricted, and I sort of took a break from law, we opened a coffee, then we parked up in the super center outdoor,
Starting point is 00:24:23 and we just wanted to connect with people because there was a lot of disconnect. I felt, and what a great time to be able to connect with someone when you have any coffee. Here, it's really big in Australia, having coffee. talking to people and at first listening to the media and just the sadness of everybody and, you know, people not being able to visit people and, you know, at first it was just, well, everyone was just, you know, disillusioned and what's going on. And people just wanted to talk and that's what we did. We just started talking and then we would talk about things and I'd go and have a look at it.
Starting point is 00:25:02 And I wasn't working as a lawyer at the time. just doing sort of pro bono work, helping people where I could. And then people started contacting me, help, help I need help. They're saying, I have to get the vaccine. I don't want to get it. I've got these, I've got a condition. I've got tachycardia, which is, you know, irregular heart. And they said that I, that doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:25:27 It's not an exemption because here you have to have a medical exemption to not get the vaccine. and people have had heart operations. I had teachers, people in government departments, you know, in prisons. I know a person personally in prison. And they said, if you don't get the vaccine, we'll move you to general population. And they didn't want to go there. So everything started, people started coming to me because I always spoke out about people's rights on my social media platforms. and I try to provide education for a small fee
Starting point is 00:26:06 but I was getting bombarded with people going I'm going to get fired I've been working this job for 30 years I've been working this job for 10ians I don't want to get a vaccine I've got diabetes and then so you look up you know here we have a reporting agency where they report the adverse events
Starting point is 00:26:22 and I lost a lot of friends or maybe three friends who did not believe at all about these adverse reactions to the vaccine same. This is not. But how? I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Like, and it's the same thing here. Like, people don't, like, believe it. It's like, they don't believe. It's like people don't believe
Starting point is 00:26:41 there's one adverse event. Yeah. Like, literally, ibuprofen kills a lot of people. But, like, but for some reason, yeah, people are like,
Starting point is 00:26:50 oh, no, that didn't happen with that. Yeah. Yeah, you're full of shit. And it's because it has been media publicized, politically agended,
Starting point is 00:26:58 and, yeah, and all that. I mean, so what is, what is the deal with y'all's government like when okay i i don't know much about australia government but what all like who is in power right now it's a very conservative conservative government that's weird uh the the the the prime minister is um from a christian background that's
Starting point is 00:27:19 crazy yeah um and um we we we have we have really two major parties labor and liberal. Labor used to be always about the people and working class and rights. And liberal is always about big business and... So you're saying liberal. Liberal?
Starting point is 00:27:39 Yeah, they're called the liberals. They're not in the term liberal as we see liberals as open-minded more fluid. That liberal party here is the opposite of what the term liberal means. But they didn't used to be, right?
Starting point is 00:27:55 The liberal party has always been a more business mining sector focused party. Yeah, but now there are more for government
Starting point is 00:28:06 is what you're kind of saying, right? Yeah, they're like the liberals are more for government? Big government? Yeah, yeah, big corporations. You know, tax breaks for mining magnates and Murdoch, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:21 they're all in each other's pockets basically. And so it's weird that you say that conservative are the ones in power right now because in the United States, if we had conservatives in power right now, we wouldn't even have any,
Starting point is 00:28:35 like, worry whatsoever about COVID lockdowns. You know, like, for example, all of our states that are conservative-led states, they were wide open during COVID. And by the way, they had the same, if not less, hospitalizations, deaths, and cases
Starting point is 00:28:53 as the states that completely locked down, which was the liberal. and I found that always interesting. But it is strange that you guys have the conservatives in power, which is the ones that are crazy, like, tyrannizing, locking down dictatorship type shit. And if we had that, if we had conservatives here, which is what Trump fought, you know, Donald Trump fought in the United States,
Starting point is 00:29:18 against the agenda of locking everybody down, taking away their rights, so on and so forth. But he was a conservative. I mean, he was, you know, Probably not the typical conservative. That's why people hated him because he was somewhere in between. But, you know, you couldn't really put a label on him. But I just find it strange that you guys have a conservative government there because I swear.
Starting point is 00:29:42 I swear, when I heard all this stuff, I was like, they got to be Democrat. Like they got to be like a Democrat, liberal left policy like we have here. Yeah, but their government is not the same as ours. You're right. It's not the same as ours. Their government is not based on the same things. Yeah. You know? Um, what do you guys think is, so, so have y'all ease the lockdowns now?
Starting point is 00:30:04 Um, yeah, look, it's really weird because, um, we, we can go out and we can associate with people. Um, we, we can't go to some places. Based on vaccine, right? Yeah. Um, I, I mean, look, in some places here, they just don't ask. There is businesses that just don't ask. They just let you. come in and you know they just ignore everything but it depends on where you are I guess when it happens. The people
Starting point is 00:30:37 that are coming to me for help now in the firm I met whilst this whole Russia Ukraine things have been going on everything else has been blown up behind the scenes so at first they were mandates they call it mandating but it's
Starting point is 00:30:51 the federal government has no rights over the states here unless they make legislation and then the states have to follow. If the federal government don't make a certain, like pass the certain act, if they do, the states have to fall in line.
Starting point is 00:31:13 They have to have the same similar act. And the federal government says, oh, look, we're not mandating. Everyone has the right to choose. But they haven't brought any legislation in saying that. So the states are just at their own will doing and whatever they want. And they've, I mean, in Western Australia is pretty bad.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Victoria was probably one of the biggest working class multicultural states. I mean, you can't go to work. No one was allowed to go to work. And if you go into work, business will be fine 100 plus thousand. Individuals will be fined. I can't, like, this is approximately $6,000 to $10,000. And people are getting, like, terminated because if you're a factory of work, you can't go unless you prove that you've got the vaccine and now you have to prove you've got
Starting point is 00:32:01 to boost the shot as well um i think we're up to nearly the fourth now boost the shot here yeah yeah and people are coming to me okay one of my clients works putting are fixing fences to stop the rabbits getting into the farms all all across queensland in new south wales they said he has to have the vaccination if they're mandating the vaccination don't want to infect their rabbits now Other men, the landowners might not like it if you're on their land without the vaccination. Let me ask you. Can I ask our question? Has it lightened up at all?
Starting point is 00:32:40 Like through the Ukraine? So it's going from, this is what they say. Okay. This is the big argument now that I'm having with employers. It's the health and safety actually have here. We have to protect our employees. helping safety. It's a two-fold thing.
Starting point is 00:32:59 You have to protect your own safety. They have to protect your safety and the employee's safety. But they're using those, in order to fulfill our requirements of duties under this act, we have to mandate this, you know, because everyone else is doing it. And so now there's no, it doesn't matter if the health minister is directing people to do it. They're just doing it now to fall into line as, you know, one does one. other follow and people are just beside themselves
Starting point is 00:33:30 which I don't know that's a bit of a slang term in Australian which means they're so upset that they are forced into a corner where you know a couple of my clients have been working for years 20 years and their job and all of a sudden they've put in all this work they've been loyal
Starting point is 00:33:48 and now they've been told well you for your safety right you have to get this shot yeah now you do then Well, it's the same thing with like our airlines, for example. They were all about like vaccinations. And if you didn't have that vaccination, you're not working for the airlines. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Well, just like two or three days ago, there's like they're now they're going back and saying, okay, if you're not vaccinated, you still can come back now. Yeah, now they're letting airline employees go back. Oh, yeah. Because there's work shortages. Yes. There's not enough people working. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:34:24 And everything's falling over. Well, so here's the deal with the... I wanted to say something, sorry. You said... I'm sorry. Yeah, go ahead. But my job which I was working, I was delivering alcohol for Woolworths, which is a big grocery supermarket type. National sort of place.
Starting point is 00:34:44 And at the start of COVID, I was considered an essential worker. So during the lockdowns... You better be considered essential. Yeah, if you're delivering alcohol, you're essential, for sure. Yeah, exactly. But, you know, there was no one on the roads. Everyone was locked down their houses. We were driving around all over Brisbane.
Starting point is 00:35:05 So it's a pretty big area. You know, being at risk of contracting COVID and spreading it. You know, this is way before the vaccinations were even out. And, you know, then they said to us, if you're not fully vaccinated, so that's your all three, you're two and your busar by the 31st and March like you've no longer got a job so you know and I no longer work there anymore
Starting point is 00:35:32 and part of the reason like we moved but part of the reason was I was not going to get the vaccination and it goes Charles working there for six years and you know when when we were working in the middle of the pandemic like we were putting ourselves at risk
Starting point is 00:35:52 Well, apparently putting ourselves at risk. Well, everyone was safe, locked in their homes. And now because we don't want to get vaccinated, now we lose our job. You know, it's... And there's a lot of people who I was working with who have left the company for the same reason I did. Also, can I just say, physically, what happened with Luke's job is they had a COVID outbreak
Starting point is 00:36:16 and didn't tell anybody. And it got swept under the carpet. and then when everyone found out a whole heap of workers, 100 workers walked off site. And it goes to show where their position lies because they're not really concerned about it. It's about business and money because if they're really concerned about people's health, why did they not do the right thing, you know, do the testing, you know, send workers home, make sure everyone's safe. And when it came out, I mean, everyone went crazy here.
Starting point is 00:36:55 I mean, there was not enough people delivering food to the supermarkets. And toilet paper, I don't know about you guys, but toilet paper became a very valuable item. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Oh, my God. I mean, it's absolutely ridiculous. Holy shit. I mean, holy shit. I should say holy shit.
Starting point is 00:37:13 It's not ridiculous when you're trying to use paper towels that don't go down the toilet. Well, but listen. So, okay, let's get back really. quickly to the the we're going to get into to i guess a little bit of the conspiracy side of things and i know you're an attorney uh you guys have listened to our podcasts or i know your husband has this great reset and whatever but um so we got this vaccine passport now you you guys actually have this it is a it is a digital thing that is on your phone yeah which by the way i would actually love to know i would love to know and i'm i need to
Starting point is 00:37:51 looked this up and I actually didn't know you guys fully implemented that but I would I would like to know who created this. Yeah. I actually am dying a corner now but I do remember looking looking at this. And I think the company that creates this sort of technology is a company based in the US. IBM? It's not IBM, is it? Hopefully it's not IBM.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Please say it's not. I would have to double check. Because when I was getting visits to my, again, a lot of companies are pharmaceutical owned by, the biggest shareholders of Vanguard and BlackRock, which is the two. Oh, yeah, they're the biggest companies. They own everything.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so that's another rabbit hole. And so I never used to believe in conspiracies because I was, you know, I was all about justice and rights and everything will be fine. You know, you just have to follow the process. And then I met Luke and he was a very big conspiracy through it. And when this all happened, I just let my mind open, but also I actually went and looked at things because we have the internet. We have access to information.
Starting point is 00:39:06 And you can find what you want right in front of your eyes. And that's what I found. And that's when I realized a lot of things Luke talked about quite possibly don't are true. And now nothing surprises me. When I hear a conspiracy theory, I go could possibly be right. Yeah. Exactly. So BlackRock and Vanguard and all them, they, it's kind of funny because if Luke listened to the Great Reset podcast, great reset podcast, one of the things about the great reset that they promise and they, it has to be part of their plan is the fact that they are, they want everyone to not own anything.
Starting point is 00:39:43 That's kind of a socialism thing. and they want people to live in bigger, like, dwellings closer to cities. They want everyone to live in a place closer to everyone. Black Rock and Vanguard and all of them are buying up mega, mega giant condominium areas, and they are making them government-assisted livings. And it's kind of interesting because if you look at the Great Reset and the New World Order and what their agenda is, they want everyone to live closely knit, together. They don't want anyone to own anything.
Starting point is 00:40:18 But also... But listen, I'm pretty sure that Black Rock... I'm pretty sure that Black Rock owns part of IBM now. So, I don't know that. Microsoft as well, because I just looked at him up yesterday. This was going on a bit of a, like, Robert Hall, a search. And, yeah, they, Microsoft and Tesla as well, as I think the top. And also interesting enough, they own a technology, well, they invest their shares in a technology company, which has, and I need to correct myself probably here, but has, produces technology that has something to do with metal oxidization and frequencies.
Starting point is 00:41:10 And I know you understand when I talk about frequencies. and the effect that they can have on you. And this is where I know. Right. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. And they have this, they have like a big share in this company that has to do with technologies in those areas. Well, you know, IBM, I don't know if you guys know this,
Starting point is 00:41:30 but I know IBM. Yeah, IBM was actually, I don't know if you know when they first started was during Hitler days. And IBM was the reason that they're the ones that but they were the reason that Hitler was able to know who all the Jews were
Starting point is 00:41:49 because because what IBM did was okay so Hitler and the Germans they had to figure out a way to figure out who all the Jews were to cleanse the Jewish population and so they needed a company that could have some type
Starting point is 00:42:06 of back then data back then it was an algorithm yeah it was like a data thing it was like the first first algorithm in our time, but it was like an algorithm, but it was like data driven, it was a punch card type system. Yeah. And, but when they did this to the Jews,
Starting point is 00:42:21 they didn't let the Jews know, hey, we want to know who all Jews are. It was just a system they implemented. To find out who they were. The company is the one that implemented this. Yeah. And this was an American country. Well, I think. I don't know. But anyways,
Starting point is 00:42:37 but IBM's the one to implement this. And this was the very beginning of IBM and then so then about a year ago we hear the IBM is working on and heavily working on and getting systems ready for a digital ID passport or a vaccine passport. Yeah saying
Starting point is 00:42:57 if you have the vaccination or not if you're allowed. Yeah, if you're allowed anywhere. And it's going to be digital. And I think I goes even further than that because my oldest son has everything on his phone from his driver's license to his medical records, his vaccination stays to his cards. I mean, I have my cards and my phone. It's very inconvenient when I don't have my phone, which I don't want to be a part of that anymore, but he doesn't even have to have anything on him. And the next
Starting point is 00:43:29 thing will be, oh, let's make it easier. You don't have to have any phone. Yeah, let's go ahead and plant this little thing in your arm and we'll just like scan you. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, I mean, China's like that anyway, isn't it? You go, like, one of my friends went over there to get funding for an app. And he said, you walk into a shop there, the locals, they don't need care and think they're scanned. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Yeah. Well, and China's got this social credit score, which is what the world is trying to move towards. Right. And what population you're going to belong to. Yeah. But the thing about it is, too, is that this, this, nine months ago, or no, no, not, not, not two years ago. Two years ago, this vaccine passport that is digital was a conspiracy theory. If you talked about this on a podcast or YouTube especially, they would say you are a conspiracy theorist that's trying to push conspiracy theories.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Well, you guys are there now. And the other funny thing is, like, how much stuff, how much you guys in Australia rely on IDs and things that tell you who you are and who you're not is all digital. now. We don't have that in the United States for the most part. Because we have we do have one party that fights hard against that because they know what the end result
Starting point is 00:44:52 of that is going to be. Like for example, my birthday is Sunday. I've got to go renew my driver's license. I can't do it on the internet. I have to physically go to the DMV, which is the driver motorcule vehicle, like whatever it is. But I have
Starting point is 00:45:10 physically go to that building. I got to do an eye test. I got to do all that stuff. And then you get a physical license. Yeah. So, yeah, like, it's, United States is different than there. But that's what I'm saying. I feel like that's better to do that than have to do online because,
Starting point is 00:45:27 you know, uh, yeah, it's, it's too difficult. There's so many difficulties and everything and are being present, uh, face to face. They,
Starting point is 00:45:38 it's sort of like trying to make it easy, but making it more difficult. Exactly. The distractions, the distractions where you have to, because it's all done digitally, to get in contact with someone, you have to ring up with that business. And you have to sit on the phone for 40 minutes and wait for someone to talk to you. And then maybe the line drops out and then you have to ring back again. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:45:58 It takes so long to do anything. You don't have the time to, you know, for that. Yeah. And half that time you can't even talk to anybody. Yeah. If you need to. Yeah. So I will tell you guys, and hopefully Luke can hear me,
Starting point is 00:46:14 because I think maybe Luke is, I don't know, I think you both are this, but I think Luke kind of maybe, maybe I'm wrong, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, maybe Luke got you into your open mindiness more than yourself did. Does that make sense? I think I was, I was always open-minded, but I think when you get into the swing of life and you get caught up in the way things are
Starting point is 00:46:41 and raising children, doing the work, and being, like, working in the system, you forget exactly that you're more than that. And sometimes it takes somebody to rejig that in your mind. I got to, yeah. We both connected in the way that we like to talk about things and reflect. And that opened up, it opened up, it re-hashed things for me. It opened me up again.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Well, it helped you in your profession, too, obviously. At the time when I was really struggling with feeling so depressed about the justice system not working for people. And it isn't working. And it's because everything's so complicated. It's not about fairness or justice. It's about who can say, who can manipulate the words, who can be better reputationalized in front of the judge. Who can, you know, and so.
Starting point is 00:47:37 I wanted to find a different platform for people, you know, to look outside the box, find another way, and really look at what defines you as a person, is it your job? At the end of the day, when you retire, and you're not worth anything anymore to the system. You here in Australia, you get paid. We're lucky, I guess, in some sense that pensioners here, people that retire will get assistance, $350 a week.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Yeah. But that's it. And, you know, you see older people at the counters scrounging around to buy, you know, some shopping and they hate their struggle because they're not really worth supporting, even though they spent the past, you know, whatever how long working and paying their taxes and providing income to the government, which is supposed to represent us. Exactly. And just like you said, when they get their retirement, they get like nothing. Yeah, I mean, they get a little bit. They get a little bit to live. Like, I laugh at that.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Like, everything people put into retirement, and then when they retire, they get nothing. I mean, they get something, but it's just enough to get you to death. Yeah, exactly. But listen, here's my thing about, like, where the world's going, and we're going to talk about. So, COVID has a new variant coming out. Dr. Falsy is back in the headlines. Everyone's been wondering where Dr. Falsy is. Well, he's back again, and he's talking about, hey, guys.
Starting point is 00:49:05 we just better start thinking about lockdowns again and all this shit. Well, because China is saying they're on lockdown. China, yeah, China is now saying that they are at the worst lockdown they have been and the worst case of COVID. And it's an Omicron variant. No, it isn't. No, it isn't. That's what they said. It's not Omicron Barron.
Starting point is 00:49:23 That's what I heard. It's not Omicron. It's like a variation of Delta and Omicron. Yeah, that's what's come out here. We had someone at the service station, petrol station. saying, oh my God, it's been 50,000 people. Funny thing is, last year, there was probably people or a thousand people apparently had COVID. And I'm a good word that professionals in the medical, in hospitals saying there's no COVID ward here.
Starting point is 00:49:54 There's not been a COVID ward for months, yet they're all about COVID. And all of a sudden there's thousands of people with COVID. And we're not in lockdown. and we're not wearing masks and but you know if you're unvaccinated and the vaccine you can't mix with the vaccinated because God forbid you could give them something
Starting point is 00:50:13 but I didn't think you could No well that means zero sense Zero sense It doesn't and that's the problem Why don't people understand this doesn't make sense It's the same thing in America though I swear to God Some people in America
Starting point is 00:50:28 are the same people in Australia No they are they don't freaking get like the real like logistics of this whole thing. No. But listen. So if we talk about the Great Re-Say, we talk about all this, this is where,
Starting point is 00:50:42 unfortunately, I feel like we're at in this world. Like, I feel like we're living in a time right now that we don't quite understand the gravity of what we're living. I feel like we are living in a situation right now that it is,
Starting point is 00:50:58 if you read this, what we're going through, and what is actually happening, happening in the world a hundred years from now in history. And you see this and you're like, holy shit, this is crazy. I'm reading a book and it's like, oh, here's history. I think where we're at right now with what people would be reading is about midways through the book. And let me tell you something, midways through the book, it is not the climax. It is not the end all, be all. And this is the crazy shit that happens. I don't even think we're midways. I literally think we're three-quarter
Starting point is 00:51:32 of the way through the book, and you're about to find out the grand finale, the crazy shit that happens, we're almost there. Like, we are a quarter of the book away from the grand finale. The thing that took us away from COVID for maybe two months is Ukraine, Ukraine, Russia War. And Russia War. Which, by the way, has, from what many people say, has to do with bio labs as well. I believe, you know, we're going to be screwed by a virus. Bill Gates himself,
Starting point is 00:52:03 all these other people talked about population control, population control. But meanwhile, while we have population control, let's lock down the people that don't die from it. Let's make them be scared as possible. But meanwhile, Putin's pissed that we have biological places in Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Of course we do. You know? Of course we do. I'm just saying if I were him, I'd be pissed too. Well, yeah, but I mean, look, I'm not just fine at all. I'm not just defined. I don't think he's psycho. But I'm just saying
Starting point is 00:52:33 if our enemies had biological weapons at our border, I wouldn't like that. You got to get rid of that shit. You know, the question to me is and what I've been going is with the
Starting point is 00:52:52 what I've been looking into a bit is the control of the DNA and the sequencing of DNA. And I'm not a medical person, but I'm trying to to learn. Talking about the vaccine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:04 So I think it goes a lot further into manipulating DNA. You control people by making the form. And you can see that in history with Mao Zedong, your own China, you know, where if you still fear into people and create fear where it doesn't belong, even in your friends and family,
Starting point is 00:53:27 you can have those people turn against you. Exactly. And we forget why, because no one questions it. And if you stop questioning things and you lose your ability to be human and have choice and freedom. And I think that's what they do. They just cause so many distractions and so much confusion. People look to the government to say, well, what are you going to do? How are you going to help us?
Starting point is 00:53:54 How are you going to save us? Yeah. Yeah, when they're not supposed to be in that position. And they're going to be there to represent us to take the money that we give them to make our life better and easier and happier, not to impose and crouch on our freedoms and stop us from being happy and to use us as an economic tool to line their pockets. Because here the government says, oh, you've got free vaccinations, free rat tests, which is the rapid antigen test. But guess who's paying for that? And guess who's paying for the new compensation scheme that they have for people that have ads, adverse reaction to the vaccine.
Starting point is 00:54:31 We pay for it. Not them. Well, what do you think, I mean, you know, here's the reality of what I think is that we are in a time in our history and in this world. I've often, I've often, I mean, we've talked about UFOs. We've talked about, you know, like, if you're a civilization that has technology to get to another planet, especially outside of the solar system, you don't have a screwed up of a world as what we have.
Starting point is 00:55:02 You don't because you're never going to get to another solar system being as screwed up as we are because we're not. I mean, I mean, look at even the space station argument right now. I mean, Putin is trying to say that he wants to detach the space station. He wants to leave our astronaut there and he wants to bring his home, even though now it's like, I guess they're both coming home. Yeah, he said he said he wants to send the space station into the United States with our astronaut on it. But I think this is not how we evolve as a species. We are killing ourselves. And I think in my mind, like how bad shit has gotten with people's, whether it be pride, whether it be just the stain for humanity or life in general, it's not going to be a comet that takes out Earth again.
Starting point is 00:55:56 It's not going to be that. be people. That is what is going to take out humanity. Yeah, of course. I think for me, like, it's when we decided that we applied a value to
Starting point is 00:56:09 what we could do or who we were, because once you can use your cans or whatever as a form of currency or what you can do, I can build something or I can be a farmer, then you have this competing system of, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:28 you're more valuable because you can do that more valuable and then you start implementing system, car systems and you know you should work harder you should have this family because you know you can sort of almost manipulate the way people are by manipulating the way that they see themselves in the system as a member of society valuable only for their economic contribution I sort of think that the of humans isn't about money and that is what drives everything now
Starting point is 00:57:03 and once you attack what do you guys think of the United States by the way like I mean what what is Australia's sentiment on the United States and the government like what do you guys hear over there like overall yeah overall like just overall like Australians about
Starting point is 00:57:19 Americans I'm just curious yeah I'll just say I've been to American I think American American people are wonderful I love the American people but no offence to the people who believe in their government American people believe in their government
Starting point is 00:57:34 but I along with a lot of other Australians see the American government as as a bully you know like like the ultimate bully yeah yeah like they
Starting point is 00:57:48 it just seems as though they love to get their you know love to have their hands in in everything and be stirring things up when they shouldn't be, you know, like, but that's, that's just my opinion. No, that's true. It's also similar here.
Starting point is 00:58:03 I think, I think it's similar here as well. Oh, absolutely. I think the difference in the political system is, you know, you get to, you know, people can vote in judges there. I think we have a lot more, the government have a lot more control, and the state's government have a lot more control after we vote them in. and over our judges and our system
Starting point is 00:58:29 whereas Americans have a lot more freedom but then also it gives you know the people in power can also manipulate people to the way they want in situations but I just don't know if there's any government that's really Yeah
Starting point is 00:58:44 Do you not think governments have too much power then? Yeah, I was going to ask Terry I like that I mean like yeah Do you not think governments I mean the reality The reality is that we were supposed to elect these people to, you know, look out for us. Well, that's gone.
Starting point is 00:59:01 We don't know about Australia. We know about our country. No, Australia's the same way. Most countries elect governments to look out for the people, supposedly. But the reality is that we always somehow get comfortable with just being ruled. And the further we get ruled and more and more and more. It's like the queen of England. Yeah, they take away your freedoms one and one and one.
Starting point is 00:59:21 but like when is it like how who the hell i mean i say who the hell ever elected these people to be over us but we did supposedly yeah but who but who thought that was a great idea yeah but i also think chad like there's only 10% if you want to if you want to if you want to convince somebody of something don't just go out and say it to their face slowly convince them of it whether it's real or not and if you um if you want to control okay so at the market moment, you can, you know, they'll say we need more teachers, we need more this, you know, control your education, what people learn, you know, if they become, you become, the society that you live in is, it's not about your choice and about what you want to do, it's about sort of
Starting point is 01:00:08 what you're told you need to do. And whether people have forgotten, I think people have forgotten that, I don't, I think maybe, but how you get back to that, I don't know if you can, but it needs to be some sort of shift in the way people think and the way in which governments are accountable. So what do you guys recommend people doing? You know, I know this is like, how have you guys fared mentally through all this COVID shit? I mean, has a mental situation been, you know, have y'all been depressed? How have y'all escaped that? Is that something that you guys?
Starting point is 01:00:46 Yeah, we've been up in, I think just through a learning. understanding that everything that we know might be just different to what we actually were actually being said to us and um just coming to terms with people and uh you know and i don't say this in a way where i'm saying people that have been educated more intelligent because that's not true but where i've got friends that have been educated to understand understand why i was taught about critical thinking and where people don't actually think critically anymore about what being told uh some people people I've known that I would have thought would be really critical about what they were being told. Absolutely weren't. And so that was quite upsetting just to see the division so quickly arise between people. Because between families and my clients come crying in my office, boy, and arise at saying, I can't even visit my family because they say I, they won't see me because I can't even see my grandmother because I don't have a vaccination.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Is that because you're a grandmother or because the government? well she is really old and she didn't think it was oh well whatever she's told in it and the funny yeah yeah and she went to her doctor and doctor told her well it might not be a good idea so uh she's believing that i might kill her if i'm not vaccinated but she is yeah is that crazy though yeah but it's not the government my my grandmother's german she she lived in germany she was in Germany during the war and her husband was in the Hitler youth
Starting point is 01:02:19 and I thought it was interesting but she said you know she I was asked her what was going on what happened there and she said oh I just didn't know we didn't know we lived in the country we had a farm we just did our thing all the while her father
Starting point is 01:02:36 is delivering notes to the soldiers and has prisoners of war on his farm but I find it hard. It's called, I believe, willful blindness because to try, for some people, and a lot of people, it's better to look away and ignore it than to accept that it's so controversial is actually truth rather than, you know, because it's so blatantly obvious. It can't be true. Yeah. It's insane. Well, I mean, and hopefully, you know, with a new very
Starting point is 01:03:14 variance coming out. I mean, it's going to wrap around back into, again, it's going to be a, it's going to be another wrap around. Yeah. No, no one ever thought this shit was over, you know, a month ago. I mean, people want to wish it is. No, it's not. And it's not going to be over it. The Great Reset, the New World Order. If anyone ever actually
Starting point is 01:03:37 looks into that, we've had many podcasts on that, this is a, this is an agenda that they want to control everyone. to a further extent. I mean, for example, the United States of America. I mean, you know, like you said, yes, we have been bullies and many conflicts and many things that we created. But the world has always kind of looked at the United States as like the freest country, even though it's really, it has been, and it was, but it's not now. And so when America starts falling, and this is a thing that like, you know, countries around the world look at this.
Starting point is 01:04:13 And they're like, oh shit. I mean, if America is starting to lose their freedoms, then that gives governments around the world what they feel is the freedom to take away their people's rights. And it's the same thing with Russia right now. They know America is the weakest has ever been. And yet, that's why they're doing this. They know we're not going to do anything. And we haven't.
Starting point is 01:04:37 And whether we should or shouldn't is a whole other debate. But the reality is that strength is, everything you need. The appearance of strength is everything you need. But I still go back to who the hell said that a group of people that are 95% of time,
Starting point is 01:04:56 the most corrupt people in the freaking universe, is who is over the general population of people. Because these same people are the ones that divide the people, the majority. I mean, think about this.
Starting point is 01:05:12 You've got, you got... a new concept. It's an old concept of divide and conquer and people hated the government here. People don't trust the government that we didn't trust the government but all of a sudden they trust the government now.
Starting point is 01:05:27 The government is trying to help to protect. It is weird. To see people swing, I don't understand. But I say look, if something doesn't feel right if you don't, if you don't think it's right then it's not right you can't sit there you know because even people we know that
Starting point is 01:05:49 are quite steadfast in doing the right thing by the government and living by the rules or whatever um say oh but it's yes it's not right that this happens but how can it be right or you know how can that be right wrong then like you have you sort of have a part right and a part wrong that you can't do you know what I mean you can't say that you can restrict all this for that reason but it's wrong yeah
Starting point is 01:06:20 well so what is your so what are you going to do kind of going forward I mean you know do you think you've got somewhere as far as kind of what you guys are doing with lawsuits and if lockdowns come
Starting point is 01:06:36 again have you learned anything from the previous lockdowns is there anything that we can do at all to stop the same thing that happened before. I think first of all, it's about people speaking out to each other about, you know,
Starting point is 01:06:52 and not being afraid of just being different. Yeah. Because sometimes people think the same way. You know, and they just are fearful of speaking out or being different. And whether that happens on a one-on-one basis or two-and-two, and even starts
Starting point is 01:07:08 with a simple, oh, no, this is really hard, on me, yes, it has a been heart in your family, and creating justice support system for people in the little thing that you can do, whether it's a brief conversation. And putting a doubt in someone's mind, I guess that's the right way to say it. Even speaking up about, you know, they always, they had this big media thing about violence against women here and not being men in a group making jokes about, you know, rape or whatever, you know and the big media thing was you know just speak up about it and don't agree with it you know
Starting point is 01:07:48 don't acknowledge it and speak up and that sort of breaks that culture of repetitive um you know of that sort of culture manifesting so i guess that's what we have to do on the on the basic level no i'm sorry okay now now i was going to the last thing i was going to say is you guys you guys Do you guys live near, like, do you live near the coast in Australia or now? We're about two hours, two and a half hours from the coast. Okay. We left because I went through a stage where we were both very fearful of, there's some real stuff on the internet about quarantine camps being built around Brisbane, Gold Coast,
Starting point is 01:08:37 and even when we're near. and a lot of changes to our biosecurity act which says that a person can detain another person if they deem them a health risk and that health risk can just be on their own decision and they can detain them for as long as they think that they're a health risk so that's a very general broad word it's not classifying it is it they're sick they have been tested it's saying if that person feels that their health risk that they can detain for as long as possible and that they can treat that person if they so want to and children don't have to have their parents only somebody that's in in like able to care like in the capacity of a carer so these like changes
Starting point is 01:09:27 have just been made in 2021 which is really scary and and I hope that doesn't have any any long-term effects but possibly it could in that the next level is detaining people if they're not vaccinated into camps. So we wanted to remove ourselves from metropolitan areas. So we could just get up and leave for one and two. Well, you guys are camping this weekend, right? Yeah, they're camping. Going out and just chilling, hanging out.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Oh, yeah, beautiful waterfalls. Lots of, lots of floods here. Lots of people in very distrustful situations, and our Prime Minister was absent for that for a bit. Though he cares about everyone's health, he wasn't here, to support people when they, like, a lot of people died in the floods here. And the second time, in the,
Starting point is 01:10:27 last time he wasn't available was when we had the big fires of 2020. I remember those. Oh, my gosh. That was awful. Yeah, so, and then we just had a whole lot of floods as well. And so there's a lot of community support. Well, a lot of people creating like-minded communities and talking. I think that's a basic first step is to just decompensate and get back onto ground level
Starting point is 01:10:56 and talk to each other, reconnects and stop being divided, you know, and finding those light-minded people and thinking outside the box. And, you know, your life, doesn't depend on the system that you've created. At the end of the day, we don't have a lot of debt. We don't have mortgages. We don't have kids in schools, private schools. So we could say, I don't care.
Starting point is 01:11:15 I'm going to, I'll just sell everything and leave. You know, and if they want to chase me for a bill, well, they can chase me for it. Yeah, I know it sounds crazy. Like you said, like-minded people, but, you know, I hate to say it. But in 2022, I just don't, I mean, we may convince a few people that are, that are so far gone, you know, that are on that other side, you might convince some of those people, but I think for the most part, if all
Starting point is 01:11:41 hell breaks loose, the shit hits the fan, you know, I think it should always, oh, I hope it should always be something that everyone has. Hope is one of the most, I think one of the, the biggest human attributes that we can use.
Starting point is 01:11:59 Once you lose hope, then you lose everything. And, No, one of our friends I was saying Yeah, one of our friends He's fully vaccinated Got his booster shot
Starting point is 01:12:12 And he was there While we were talking to you guys For the first time And I was telling him about you guys And I said just listen to The podcast you did on Australian Tyranny And he's gone and listened to them
Starting point is 01:12:25 I think he's listened to a few others And so like It's getting him thinking Which is, in my eyes It's a positive You know, it gets one person thinking that they could get someone else thinking, you know, it's like a chain reaction sort of thing. It's not about thinking who's right wrong. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:43 It's about thinking about what's happening. Another perspective. Yeah. Exactly. And not just accepting things. It's weird. It's weird. I wish I knew if you guys were like us here.
Starting point is 01:12:54 Like over here, like with social media and the left and right side, there is no other perspective to the other side. I mean, it's like, there's just, it just doesn't happen. Yeah, it's my way or the highway. Yeah, even if you have 100% factual evidence, nobody's going to believe each other's perspective. Yeah, it's the same. A lot of people like that. Yeah, it's nuts.
Starting point is 01:13:20 There's a lot of people sitting on the fence too. I think, even if there's a small portion of people that think like you, that's a lot of power in there as well. And you can only do as much as you. you can do and I can only fight as hard as I can fight and I'm fighting to losing battle right now with some of my clients and by the way you guys are going to do a podcast
Starting point is 01:13:41 I don't want to forget this so and I think you guys should announce what your podcast is going to be and we can you know announce this in the future as well but so what is your what is your podcast going to be about I know you said you're going to start it and what is it going to be about and
Starting point is 01:13:57 what's the name of it and give me give us all that information um we decided to call it that on the car Spell that. Spell that so people know what you're saying. Especially for Americans. Because I hear Anikoff? No, yeah, like Anakie, but like Anacoff.
Starting point is 01:14:19 A and A. Okay. Spell it again one more time. A and A R? Um, here. We got to get it right. You spell it. It's N-A-N-A-C.
Starting point is 01:14:42 Okay. So, A-N-A-R-C-A-S-T, An-A-R-C-A-S-T, N-A-C-A-C-A-C-N-A-C-A-C-R-K. Okay, okay. People write it down. Chad, say it. You can't even say it. An-Cart. Is that An-C-C-R-C-T?
Starting point is 01:15:00 Yeah. And-R-C-C-R-N-A-C-R-N. No, not-C-C-T. You know, like, anarchy used to be a dirty word, but I feel like it's, I feel like it's a word that we should reflect on it at this point in time. This has got to be an Australian word. Yeah, because this is not dirty word for us. Anarchy, yeah, you know. Oh, Anarchy.
Starting point is 01:15:20 Anarchy. Anarchy. Okay, sorry. Oh, Anarchy. I don't know. It's my pronunciation. Anakai. She says Ananaki.
Starting point is 01:15:29 You know. Anarchy. Anarchy. Tara has a thicker Australian accent than Luke. Yeah. Have you noticed that? Yeah. She says anarchy.
Starting point is 01:15:39 Yeah, a redneck boygan. She's a redneck. So wait, wait, which one's redneck? Tara is great. So why sometimes when I get in the court, I sound much more, you know, particular. So you would consider yourself a redneck over there. Tara is a redneck in Australia. I just consider it a thicker accent.
Starting point is 01:15:59 But like, so who's a redneck and me and Sherry? Probably me. You're totally erratic. I think I think I think we both rednecks I like to get a bit of redneck on and then we both And you know
Starting point is 01:16:14 Because I work when I work in against other lawyers Or I'm in the court system I have to be much more proper And speak differently And not use certain slang words But when I'm relaxed I just talk about the way I want to talk
Starting point is 01:16:29 A bit of a bogan Well I wasn't even talking about like your her language or anything it's just the accent. Yeah, the accent. Well, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the accent. It's that's similar to like if I was to say you sound like when you like Texas, people with Texans.
Starting point is 01:16:45 Yeah. They're more of a southern accent. No, but that's quite strong to me. But we're in South Carolina. Like when I hear a southern accent compared to another. All right, listen, say if I say this, hey boys, we're down here in South Carolina and we love South Carolina. Yeah, y'all come down.
Starting point is 01:17:03 now. Oh, she's got it. Tara, you are right now. Tara, you got it. We officially designate her as a redneck. Tara can be a redneck. So listen, Tara, if you guys come to the United States, you have to come to South because, you know. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:22 You've got the accent. We can't wait. We're going to have to smuggle ourselves in someone's back at this moment. I don't even know if you can leave Australia. Can you leave Australia? Well, Rickman, can I quickly tell you that the new directions are that unvaccinated people can come into Australia, and then you have to, I think, quarantine for seven days, and they're quite happily can totter off and do what they want. But I'm not sure if we can leave, but they've eased all these restrictions.
Starting point is 01:17:55 And just notably, the Omnucon Bites came in, which came in by, a vaccinated person and of course they're like all these vaccinated people yeah yeah but they're blaming the unvaccinated yeah yeah and now now they've
Starting point is 01:18:16 they've opened up our country to unvaccinated people as well so I'm just waiting for what you know that little spin off yeah yeah it's funny because you know it's Well, I'm just going to tell you both. The spin-off is going to be as soon as it gets summer and gets nice in Canada and Australia.
Starting point is 01:18:42 That new variant's going to come around. Yeah, it's going to come around and they're going to lock us down. They're going to lock us down again. I guarantee it. I don't know if they're going to lock us down here. They're saying it's coming into winter here when you're summer. And they're saying that we're going to see a lot of problems. Now, I just quickly mention this, sorry, one of the health ministers,
Starting point is 01:19:06 health minister I came out and said, we've introduced all this. So we have a system of health where they will pay a certain amount of money for a certain treatment. You know, not all treatments are paid for. Some cancers aren't, treatments aren't paid for. But on the same day, they said that they would give people that they might suspect of having adverse reaction to the vaccine with my heart. itis. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they would, the government would pay for the scan.
Starting point is 01:19:38 They are now saying that they have a new treatment because, and this is, this is what we say in Australia, Riggie Ditch or genuine factual information on the government's page I can send through. The helplessness has said, there's going to be a lot of heart attacks next year. Oh, of course. And we've got this new, you know, we've got this new treatment. to help people in these situations. And guess who the company is that makes this treatment?
Starting point is 01:20:07 Probably Pfizer and Moderna. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, the funny thing about it is, is that, you know, blood clots and people from 18 to 34 has went up like 75% in the past nine months. I mean, this is a thing that you look at death, sudden deaths. We've talked about on the podcast before with the vaccine thing. Like whether, look, I'm just saying this is not, you can look up the stats. They, when they started having unvaccinated, okay, you guys, do you guys know in Australia that we've, like the United States, and it's probably around the world, but the United States alone had more deaths from COVID supposedly in 2021 than they did in 2020, which was the height of the pandemic, okay? So that sounds crazy because guess what?
Starting point is 01:20:56 We had vaccinations in 2021. So how in the hell could we have more deaths in 2021? Okay. Well, we've explained this before. The reason we had more deaths in 2021 in the United States from COVID, even though we had vaccines available, was because of the fact that they didn't classify you as fully vaccinated until 17 days after your second vaccinated. So when this death spike started coming in, it was from people that were also dying from the vaccine.
Starting point is 01:21:37 Exactly. So they counted that for COVID. And then they said, oh, you've got to get another dose now. Yeah. You got to get your third dose. So they counted this for COVID. And so there's all this lingo and all this bullshit that they talk about, you know, whatever. But it's nuts.
Starting point is 01:21:56 But Tara, do you got, what vaccinations do you? you guys use there? Like what? Do you guys have Pfizer-Modernia? Yeah, Moderna, Pfizer, Astridsonica. We have another three or four coming in. No, it's, I can't, I can't say the names of them at the moment. I can't recall them. And then they've got, they've just been approved for another booster of Pfizer. Yeah, so what I've, what I know, and I don't know anybody that died of COVID.
Starting point is 01:22:27 I know a lot of people have had it. I do. Vaccinated, and they've been vaccinated. My son's had it. He's vaccinated, and his friends at work have had it. I still am not yet. I haven't got it. Luke and I haven't had it.
Starting point is 01:22:41 My kids haven't had it. They've had outbreaks at school in the workplace. But the people that I know that I've had it, and the majority of people I know have been vaccinated, some of my clients that I haven't had it, the vaccine have had it. And they say it's like a flu, you know. So I feel like there's a misrepresentation here of reporting.
Starting point is 01:23:08 It definitely is on the government website about people that are getting COVID, if they're vaccinated or not. And the majority of those people that are dying from COVID, if it's from COVID itself as a disease or whatever, or if it's from the vaccine. And I think that's the problem. It's the lack of information. It's the filtering of information to suit our agenda.
Starting point is 01:23:36 Man, it's crazy. I mean, it's going to be scary what happens, you know, over the next couple years. And I hope, you know, for all of us, I mean, you know, Australia, you know, whatever. The one thing that I've learned talking to you guys and people from around Canada, we've had people reach out from Ukraine and Russia. we're all divided, I guess, by country, but we're all human beings and we all have the same beliefs, many of the same beliefs. I mean, there's literally two sides of people on this, and there's sheep, there's people that believe everything media and government says, and there's people that are not, I guess, ignorant to the fact that there is a truth out there. And I think that's the main thing that separates people now.
Starting point is 01:24:24 It's not race. It's not country. it's where like do we have a right to have rights and and or are we going to follow along and go into this tunnel of death which is what you know many many of the people in in Nazi Germany I mean with with with you know with the Jews that they would just line up and go to these concentration camps not knowing and and so there's two factions of people now there's people that are going to fight and there's people that are going to line up and just go. Yeah, and I just don't know whether that's, you know, on multi-levels of thinking, if that's a psychological thing, if that's a human socialization thing. Also, it's a spiritual thing as well that determines different thinking,
Starting point is 01:25:16 you know, in the development of the cerebral cortex and reflective thinking, questioning your existence and like nobody is born with a book that says that they have to have a right but I guess we all believe that we have want to be happy and there's also another book that says we have to do things you know and when rights were like established it was just initially about protecting you know not harming somebody not killing them not maiming you do what you want, you'd be happy, and slowly that's been, you know, changed, manipulated into a set of principles, and now those principles are being limited and restricted again to take away those rights of being able to be happy and do what you want, you know, without hurting
Starting point is 01:26:14 other people. Yeah. So I think that's the fundamental principle is whether or not think about if you're happy, think about what doesn't make you happy and think about how you can change it. And that might be changing your whole life, which is really quite confidential for a lot of people to step out of their existence as they are in society and think, or maybe this isn't the way I should be. and who knows
Starting point is 01:26:45 I think a lot of people will just follow the mentality of the mob and the conditioning just it's really easy it's hard to think differently I'm constantly criticised we are constantly criticised for a way of thinking
Starting point is 01:27:00 because it's different but in the same token the law here changed for marriage with same sex because they acknowledge the fact that people have rights to love each other no matter what sex they are. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:17 And, you know, and the choice, the choice of doing that. But yet, it's only for, it's only for a certain benefit, you know. And the reason why we got that legislation through was because people are outraged about the government was steadfast and not, they changed legislation to say marriage between two people because people were getting married same sex. They changed to marriage between a man and woman
Starting point is 01:27:45 and that's when we fought really hard for equality. So if we fought for equality why aren't we fighting for choice and freedom of your body and freedom why am we saying you can't work you aren't allowed to live and earn your money or go out
Starting point is 01:28:05 into public and associate with people you're turned away from being able to sit with your children in McDonald's and this is this is okay yeah i mean it's discrimination it's discrimination all over again i mean it's but yet the other year you were saying it's we can't have that we can't discriminate against people that you know want to get married and love each other but where do you draw the line between you know where where's people's uh thinking on that you know you have a right to to take away someone's likelihood Uh, yeah, it's just, it's, it's overwhelming.
Starting point is 01:28:42 My, my thought process has always been this, you know, if, if you're gay or if you like a girl and you're a girl and you like a guy and you're a guy, that's your thing, right? Whether, what I do, this is my thing. Um, I like women. Uh, you like, if you like guy as a guy, you like a dude. That's, that's your thing. And, and, and, and, and, you know, whether I agree with abortion or not, it doesn't matter because that's not my choice. Like, like, that's your choice. That's your choice. You believe on someone else and telling them they shouldn't do it. That's when you're taking away. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, just because I say that like I, like, whether I agree with abortion or not, doesn't matter. Because it's not my life. Now, I can say like, hey, I don't agree with it or I do agree with it.
Starting point is 01:29:27 But that doesn't mean that you have to do what I fucking tell you because you're your own person. And the problem is that the government has now made a role to say that I believe, that all people should do this or that, and that's the, that's the issue. In the same sense that government's trying to say that people should be able to do what they want to do, but yeah, at the same time, they say, unless we don't agree with it. Yeah, it's a complaint contradiction. Yeah, that's the problem. But guys, listen, I think we're going to, we definitely got to bring you guys back on.
Starting point is 01:30:02 Yeah, an hour and a half about. We definitely got to bring you guys on. I wanted to touch on the COVID thing, and I'm glad we brought you guys on. I think that, listen, I will predict this. I think even though you don't think Australia will be in a lockdown again, I think that you guys will be in a lockdown within three months. And I think we will be as well. I think this is the next phase.
Starting point is 01:30:29 And the reason I say this is Anthony Fauci said, a pandemic has seven phases and we are in phase three. Yeah. And I'm lucky because I can work from my own business, a strategic legal group, and I can work online. And that's probably what's made us think about, thinking about other alternative methods of working.
Starting point is 01:30:51 But a lot of people don't have that choice. In the cities, like you were saying, they're trapped in the city. They have a job in a workplace. And at the end of the day, those people are going to feel that anger and resentment towards people that can choose.
Starting point is 01:31:07 So I'll best look at three months time and see what happens and it'll be interesting like there's a lot of things going on in the world and spiritual level and natural level as well so it'd be interesting to see what happens. Yeah, the great reset is going to happen man. The great reset is going to happen.
Starting point is 01:31:26 Oh yeah. There's no question. And we'll definitely talk about that on another podcast soon. Yeah. But Tara, thank you so much for coming on. Luke,
Starting point is 01:31:36 thank you for coming on. We really appreciate you guys. Thank you for being. Happy birthday, Sherry. Hope you have great weekend. Sherry had to go tend to the dogs because they were going crazy. So she is there.
Starting point is 01:31:51 But guys, listen, you guys have a great weekend. We'll definitely bring you back on. And we're going to spell out the podcast that you guys are going to start on our website and our Facebook. So if you guys are interested in our podcast, definitely check our Facebook, check all that information. And we wish you the best like. And we'll definitely bring you back on for other stuff.
Starting point is 01:32:10 Because I promise you, this COVID stuff is not over. The lockdown stuff's not over. And you better to keep fighting because it's not going to end yet. I'll look like I said to you. I'll go to jail fighting. Well, that would be awesome. Well, we need more people like here. And just like Ukrainians, man, the Ukrainians are fighting for their country.
Starting point is 01:32:27 And I think all of us would. and you are in your own way. I mean, it's not, you know, what is. I mean, it's human rights. And I think that's, you know, we need more people to fight. We need more people to fight for our rights.
Starting point is 01:32:40 And this is, these are things that people, because it doesn't, because they're not getting shot in those chest by a bullet, they don't feel like it truly affects them that way, but it does. And it will. Yeah, yeah, it's not just a right for me.
Starting point is 01:32:54 It's the right for we. It's a right for everybody. Yeah. And without that, we don't have any. think. Absolutely. Well, guys, I hope you guys have a great weekend.
Starting point is 01:33:03 Enjoy your weekend. And thank you guys so much for coming on. And we'll definitely have you back on. Thank you, Tara and Luke. Thank you. We'll talk to you very soon. See you guys. All right.
Starting point is 01:33:16 That was Tara and Luke, guys. They are awesome, man. We really enjoyed really since we've, you know, this whole deal. I mean, the whole COVID thing, they reached out with the COVID. They kind of been a part of the Australia situation with the whole COVID lockdown thing. And it's been crazy in Australia. And we need people like them. We need people that are fighting for people's rights.
Starting point is 01:33:44 And so thank you, Tara. Thank you, Luke. We really appreciate it. Sherry did have to go and tend to the animals. Sorry, guys. But I don't know what's going to happen. eventually with all this. But what I do know is that the Great Reset to 30 on 30 plan,
Starting point is 01:34:03 the New World Order is in full effect. And we're, this is not just going to all of a sudden get better. This is a plan. This is something that is on the agenda. This is something that is not going to be let go. The Russia Ukraine thing, the war is awful. The people, people are dying. They are in Ukraine.
Starting point is 01:34:25 And we've talked about it a lot. And, you know, never let a good tragedy go to waste. And that's essentially what they're doing with this. They are hiding what their underlying plans are with the next phase of COVID, the next phase of the Great Reset. I mean, there's leaders around the world that have came out and said, the Great Reset is going to be this. This is what the Great Reset needs to be.
Starting point is 01:34:54 The New World Order needs to be this. These are leaders around the world that have. have said this themselves. And so with the rush of Ukraine thing, yeah, it's happening. How much has the United States instigated or possibly, I don't know, tried to convince Ukraine to go into NATO and so on and so forth, which got them kind of in this situation and vice versa. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:35:21 All I know is that the media is completely in, I guess, what you would call the headlights, like a deer. would be in the headlights. If you, if you catch a deer in light at night, they're going to stop and they're just going to focus completely on the light. But yet everything else could be going on around them. And that's what's happening right now. Russia, Ukraine is the light for the deer, which is us. We're the deer. And everything that's happening around us right now, we don't know. Because so many people are so apt into what is the media saying? That's how we know. This is how we know.
Starting point is 01:35:59 And by the way, this is a problem with a lot of us. And we've done a lot of Russia-Ukraine things, but we haven't really been talking about the COVID narrative and what's to come. And that's why we want to do this podcast. And we want to bring Tehran and Luke and talk about the Australia situation. But we're also guilty of that as well. When everything's pushed and pushed and pushed, we kind of forget about the things that are going to really affect all of our lives.
Starting point is 01:36:28 nuclear war could yeah you're right but if nuclear war doesn't COVID will and these lockdowns will and so will the mandates and so will the encroachment on our rights every single day freedom of speech is gone I mean that's gone whether you whether you believe or not yeah you can go out there and say whatever you want to say in public which is why there's so many of these videographers that go to these police stations and all this shit if you watch any of those they do this because they want to say they want to make sure
Starting point is 01:36:56 their actual freedom of speech. I mean, even though I used to hate these people, not hate them, but I used to always look at these people as like anti-police. And some of them are. But then there's also some of them people that go out and speak the truth, or not the truth, but they say what they want to say freedom of speech-wise. And they do this in a physical, I'm here form to guarantee their rights to speak freely because that's really the only way that you can see if your rights even exist at all anymore.
Starting point is 01:37:29 Because the Internet now has become everyone's life. And the Internet dictates freedom of speech. They dictate all of this, especially speech. That's why the First Amendment is first because that is the most important, in my opinion. The Second Amendment is the second most important. Your right to bear arms and protect yourself from the government, by the way, is primarily against tyranny. foreign or domestic. So this is where we're at.
Starting point is 01:37:59 We're at a time in this world that we either, we're going to keep going forward, but there's going to be a breaking point. I keep saying this, I keep saying this, it's going to happen. And if it doesn't happen from some craziness that happens around the world,
Starting point is 01:38:17 it's going to happen in countries around the world. People are, you know, they're going to this this entity which is the government and the people are going to keep pushing and pushing and pushing their powers on people and trying to take away as many rights as they can and eventually maybe somebody will wake up and maybe they won't maybe we'll all just conform and be freaking robots i don't know because we already are robots in a lot of ways so anyways guys thank you for listening to investigate earth podcast uh this has been another investigator podcast episode on covid 19 uh sorry sherry I'm going to stay by for Sherry because she's not here right now because of dogs. But we love you guys. Thank you for listening. We've been gone for a little while. It's Sherry's birthday weekend.
Starting point is 01:39:02 We're going to celebrate for a couple days. We will be back probably Monday or Tuesday. And we're going to get deep into the great reset, the new world order, and what's really going on with all this stuff. So, guys, thank you for listening. We really appreciate it. And until next time, peace out.

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