Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Covid 19 Conspiracy Podcasts with Australian Attorney| Australia Lockdown Update | New Varient
Episode Date: March 19, 2022So with the Russia Ukraine war, we have not heard much about Covid 19 lately. China is now under the strictest lockdowns since early 2020 with a new varient spreading. We talk with a human rights atto...rney out of Australia on the past Australian lockdowns and what may be to come. We also talk about how this upcoming lockdown may be the toughest yet.
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for tuned in with us tonight.
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Yeah, it was a great song.
I love that.
It's a great song.
That is a lost touch by Flux Vortex.
Um, good song.
But, uh, guys, so we are doing yet again another COVID-19 podcast.
And we have, you know, I know a lot of you guys have been missing this stuff because
I know that you guys have thought about the fact that like, where is Dr. Falschey been?
Where has COVID went?
Yeah.
Where did everything go?
It is reemerging, just as we thought it would.
Tonight we actually have a special guest on the podcast tonight.
It is Attorney Tara from Australia, and we're going to bring her on.
We've been talking about this podcast.
We've been trying to plan it for some time now, probably a couple months at least.
And so obviously, Australia and U.S. time is tough, and it's tough to kind of coordinate everything.
So for us, it's 11.30 a night.
For them, it's an afternoon.
But we're going to have her on.
She has been fighting some.
I guess what you would call the good fight in Australia,
especially for the lockdowns and just for human rights and the basic,
you know,
basically what everyone is seeing and during this whole COVID-19 thing is like if you had a lawyer,
you want someone that's going to fight for what you...
Exactly.
You're right.
And that's where we're at.
And what's so funny is, it's not funny,
but I almost believe that this war, the Ukraine-Russia war,
is put everybody's mind on that.
And we're less focused on COVID.
While they're getting everything else ready, yeah.
Yeah, while they're second phase.
Yes.
And now everybody's like, did you hear about China?
We're going to have another lockdown.
Exactly.
This is going to happen, you know?
So guys, so before we get started, by the way, you know, this is an Australia,
United States communication over the Internet.
So if we do get disconnected or whatever the case is, be patient with us, they are kind of
out in the, I don't know if it's probably not the outback.
It's in the kangaroo area.
Kangaroo area.
Okay. Or the Kuala area.
But anyways, so let's bring on Tara now.
And her husband also may join us as well.
But Tara, can you hear us?
Let me make sure that we have everything here.
Okay, can you hear us, Tara.
Yeah, we can hear you.
Are you there?
Yeah, we are here.
Welcome to Investigate Earth.
Hi.
Hey, guys.
So this is Tara and Luke.
And so Tara and Luke, tell us, I guess, briefly,
where you guys live in Australia.
Do you live on a west coast, east coast?
Like, what is your situation over there?
Yeah, we're on the east coast of Australia.
We are in Queensland, and nowhere near Sydney.
But we're actually in the west at the moment, probably about two hours west.
So we actually did see a kangaroo jumping across the road.
That is so freaking amazing.
But they will beat your ass, though, too.
Oh, I know. I know they'll kick you.
Yeah, the big rats, you don't want to go have a fight with them.
But it's so awesome just to even be able to see that, you know?
Especially after all the wildfires.
Do you guys have bears over there?
You got, they have koala bears.
Yeah, but there's an argument that you don't call them bears.
They're just koalas.
Yeah.
Okay, so koala.
But there's a book about that.
It's a kid's book, right.
Right.
They're koalas.
We don't see much of them, but if you look up, sometimes you might.
mostly we see where we are a lot of kangaroos and bugs and spiders
okay yeah i've heard about australian spiders they scare they scared the hell out of me
but yeah and you guys have the brown snake in australia you got the i think also the fierce
snake in australia i think that's another we have a typan yeah typan and they're pretty much the
most dangerous snakes some of the most dangerous snakes in the world but we we have some brown snakes
It's not probably apparently, but we haven't seen them.
That's scary.
I don't want to see them.
Yeah, that's scary.
All right.
So, Tara, so this podcast is about COVID-19.
And by the way, you know, it's funny because we've been covering the Russia-Ukraine
war quite a bit lately, and it's because of what everybody's been covering.
But in reality, our most popular podcast that we've ever done has always been, it's
always been COVID because, I mean, COVID affects everyone's life around the entire world.
it is a in my opinion and a podcast opinion a giant they're using COVID as a giant power grab this is something that they're using to have an excuse to take away your rights and in many different um whether it be constitutions or rules or rights of people they always use a medical they've always had like a medical exemption as far as your rights go and this is this is part of the problem that we've seen across the world they say oh because it because of COVID and
and if you're sick, then it affects other people.
They use that as an excuse to affect rights.
But we've talked about Australia.
We've talked about kind of what happened to Australia.
And from the United States standpoint and many other countries,
Australia was the first one to kind of go in almost a tyrannical state.
Yeah, we were the test, we were the test sample, like we were testing that to see how it would affect the rest of everybody else, I think.
So tell me your experience.
from, you know, just, I guess you can kind of start from the beginning, how it started in Australia, how quick it ramped up, and kind of, you know, and also what you do, I guess start off with who you are, what you do, and then kind of talk about the Australia experience of COVID.
Yeah, sure. Okay. I represent people, a human rights lawyer, in particular, employment and discrimination law, I work in the federal system here.
which is the whole of the country.
And I found a very tough finding justice in the system.
And so I took a break.
So I sort of unwind and find some other medium to get through that time away.
And during that time, I spent seven months working from home as a lawyer.
And it did really affect us.
We didn't do, there wasn't much happening here.
It was sort of like around the world, this thing was out and everybody had to stay indoors.
And it was a bit of a joke at first.
We wear the mask or whatever.
And I never really wanted to do that.
And when I moved to the Gold Coast, which is on the East Coast, I saw a news article saying that, you know, people needed to be monitored.
They needed to stop people just spreading misinformation.
and tried to restrict people's freedom to speak
and acquire information of their own free will, you know, away from math media.
And I sort of, like, that caught me and I thought, you know, absolutely not.
This is against our rights.
You know, we shouldn't be monitored.
We should have the freedom to speak to be able to find information
and to make a choice about what we want to do.
And at that time, I mean, in Queensland, we'd only had maybe one,
or two cases.
And the year before, the flu itself killed more people than COVID and more people in
hospital, about 68,000 in hospital.
And that, they declared an emergency.
So to limit your rights, they have to be able to declare health emergency and they
declare a health emergency and basically gives them rights to encroach on your freedoms
of movement.
throughout the states.
I mean, friends of ours couldn't, you know,
they had their brother died and they couldn't come back
for the funeral.
And they had to wait for like to quarantine for two weeks.
And they were lucky to come back for it.
And lots of stories about that.
And then I started getting,
because I started speaking up about human rights
and having the choice to do things of your own body
and having, you know, freedom of your liberty and choice,
I started noticing on my professional profile that government agencies like the Home Affairs,
which is a security agency here, and pharmaceutical companies, the actual health minister,
the Department of Health here, looking at my profile.
And I thought, well, this is really odd.
If I'm just expressing legal rights, as we've always had it, why am I getting these people
visiting my profile, like a warning almost?
And you're talking about like LinkedIn, right?
Yeah, LinkedIn.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I've been,
lately,
it's been much more.
But,
and so I so thought,
because I was in the fence
about getting the vaccine at this time,
I was still walking,
we're still walking around
in shopping centers,
going shopping,
we're still walking around.
At this point,
it was just wearing masks.
And at this point,
it wasn't,
they weren't mandating,
the vaccine
and they weren't forcing people
to have it.
But that's when I started investigating
okay, well what's going on?
Why am I being looked at?
And then I went down
many rabbit holes, but information
was there for me to see and it was quite
disturbing and
it definitely changed my mind
about not only
the vaccine but also what was behind
the vaccine, what the motive was.
Because then I started
predicting things.
And part of that
was that to force
people to do something, you take
away their livelihood, and
that's when they started
bringing in the mandates for all the public
sectors. So, healthcare workers,
disability workers,
and...
It's a loophole. It's kind of a loophole in human rights.
I mean, if you really think
about it, I mean, even the United
States Constitution, they didn't say that
you're not allowed to do this if you don't do
this, but they got the business sector and the companies.
They forced them to do the mandates and therefore forcing you to either live or not based
on whether you get a vaccine or not.
Yeah, and that's the thing.
It's changed a little bit now, but at first it was, you know, you're a disability worker
and I was representing disability workers for helping them.
And there was parents of disabled people.
there was doctors saying we don't care
with disabled people saying we don't care
if they're vaccinated
that basically the order said you have to be vaccinated
to look after these people
they actually the human rights of the
disabled people were breached as well because
they should be treated
as much as possible
a normal person as a person
without a disability and they
were forced into a position of not being able to have
the opportunity to have
treatment or to have care
because the disability
worker was then forced into making decision about their own personal health and care of the people
they were looking after so you sacrifice yourself or you sacrifice them and that's pretty much how
it's been you you target the health workers you target people in these situations and they use
those people and said these are high risk you're you know the poor old people in the homes
the people in hospitals and disability sector and that was the
the way that they reached that to enforce protecting your community and protecting those vulnerable people.
But it's moved across from being just the vulnerable people into everybody now.
Now, Tara, tell me, tell me, was Australia, you know, that's always something that, you know, when we talk on this podcast about Australia, it's always something that, I don't know, I mean, did you consider Australia a free country before COVID?
Oh yeah, I mean look
Our nation is built on the working class
Fighting against tyranny
And we fought for rights
You know back in 1900s
I think just off to America
You know the rights to vote for men
Aboriginal people
We have had a strong
Background of
Governments which
Support you know the people
Their rights and the working rights
And slowly I sort of
saw that diminishing
probably around 2.15
when I started noticing
the laws
and I was still studying at this point
just finishing
the freedom of associating
with barkeys
here was a big thing
they took away
they took away
if you were associated
with a bike
bike member
if you were talking to them
you could be
made a criminal basically
be charged
of a what member
what is it
uh
so
uh
motorcycle gangs.
Oh, okay, I got to.
Okay, yeah.
We have a lot of motorcycle gangs in Australia.
They're quite proficient in the criminal activity here.
Yeah.
But basically they start with something like that to and still fear.
And say, well, these people are really bad.
How do we control that?
Well, we don't want them to associate and neither should you with them.
So we're going to stop those limit association with people like that.
And also stop people from protesting because we had a big climate change, big climate change back in here as well.
And people being fined for protesting.
And it was never the case.
It was always, you know, we protested about nuclear weapons.
We protested about our working rights.
And all of a sudden, we can't do those things without fear of being fined anymore.
Okay.
Well, do you think, okay, so Australia wanted to lie.
Like, how hardcore was the lockdowns do you think?
I mean, you know, just based on us over here in the United States, I mean, you know, the United States media pushed Australia like, you know, especially the conservative, right, you know, the right wing media.
They pushed the fact that Australia was getting royally screwed, I guess you can say.
I mean, was it as bad as people around the world heard about it being as bad, I guess?
Yeah.
Oh, look, look, we went to have.
some McDonald's the other day and um so i went on lockdown they've just um lifted the masks wearing the
mask uh we could go in an order uh but we couldn't sit down there because we're not vaccinated
seriously so yeah and i yeah so um i mean that's that's that's that is worse that's than the last
time i went in and i couldn't i couldn't get served because i didn't have a mask and but this time it's
like we don't you don't need masks but now you need to show that you give
vaccinated. So we can't go into a pub, a club, a sporting event, any, any sort of community
events without showing some sort of, we've got this app on our phone, why I don't have it,
but people have apps on their phone that show their vaccination status is a green tick.
And if you don't show that, those people can apparently lawfully turn you away.
Okay, and I want to stop you there right for a second.
So you said they have an app on your.
phone. Is this like a nationwide thing in Australia?
Yeah.
Wow. So a digital passport, basically.
Yeah. You have to register to your vaccination status with the government.
The government provide you some sort of, you know, authority.
Yeah. And it comes up on your phone with a special green tick.
And that is how you can show you.
So, Tara, how did you, okay, it was your husband, right, that listened to our podcast is how you kind of found us?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Luke, say hello to everyone around the world, Luke.
Hello, everyone.
Thanks for having to have to the one.
So, Luke, thank you for listening to our podcast, number one, because I'm glad we met you guys.
We've talked to you guys a few times.
We talked to both of you, and you guys are awesome.
I think you guys are great people that are doing a really good.
thing for humanity. I mean,
and just, you know,
even though you guys are in Australia, which by
the way, when I was looking up all this
nuclear war stuff, Australia is like the
safest country from a nuclear war
in the world. So I was like...
Well, go figure, look at that world map
and where they're located.
Yeah. So you guys, we're going to come
to you guys. Yeah, we're coming to your
house. It's probably because we've got to love uranium
here, and no one wants to bomb us for that reason.
Yeah, and if they bomb
the United States, the jet stream and
all that goes, it doesn't affect Australia.
Oh, that's awesome.
It will eventually, but it would take a while.
That goes away from them.
Yeah, but anyways.
So Luke, so you started listening to us, I guess, and so what, and I think I ask you
this, but you may not remember exactly.
Like, what, how did you find us?
And the reason I'm asking that is because, because what I'm about to talk about,
especially with this digital ID passport thing that you're talking about, how did you
find us Luke and what were you looking up if you remember um i was i was looking a lot at like the
whole great uh reset thing okay and um i just seen you guys come up and i'd know i just like the
name and i listened to i can't remember which um podcast was it must have been one very similar
yeah and um yeah i just i really enjoyed it and i was thinking you know these guys they talk a lot
about exactly what Tara and I talk about every night for hours on end.
And I told Tyra, I said, oh, you need to listen to these guys, check them out.
And, yeah, she finally did.
And then I heard you guys saying, you know, asking people, especially in Australia, to reach out.
And that's what I told her that she should shoot you guys a message.
And she did.
And then, yeah.
Yeah, that's so cool.
because we've had a lot of people from Australia
reach out, like email or whatever,
just giving us their life,
like what their life is like now.
We've had like only a couple people that's like,
well, I live here and I'm in the middle of nowhere
and I don't give a damn what the government says
because I just go fish and I,
there's a, what I have found about the Australia podcast
is there is a lot of self-sustainable people out there
as far as in different places
that don't give a damn about grocery stores even.
Like there are people that live,
by the water, they go fish and catch and cook and everything they do is their natural resources there, which is pretty cool.
Oh, yeah, we have the environment to do that.
And I'm really, sorry, to interrupt, I've really, I got contacted by a lady who's seen co-ops all over the country, which is people, doctors, lawyers, farmers, people that own, like, you know, come together and create their own business.
and sort of use it to connect and find services for each other.
That's cool.
And set up an alternative community outside of the mainstream, you know, social community that we're used to now.
And set up our own sort of community deciding on our own understanding of rights to do that because we can.
We're not restricted if we find alternative ways.
Yeah. So you guys, and Luke was just saying that you guys talk about, you know, some of the things that we talk about in the podcast, and we're about to get into this, to this ID, this vaccine ID thing.
But so what you and Luke talk about, say you guys are out in the, on your back porch or whatever.
By the way, I've seen somebody else's pictures of your house, like, or wherever.
I don't know. Do you all live in the country? Like, you can just see for miles kind of?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
There's hills on flat and these hills.
We're driving at the moment through very green hills and very ancient sort of looking mountains.
I think Aboriginal culture is the oldest culture in Australia, but in the world.
But yeah, so it's very different scenery everywhere you go here.
So you guys talk about stuff like we talk about on the podcast, like Great Reset or like, or not even the Great Reset, but like, why is this?
happening and like what is what is the root of why all of this is coming into play and so how do you
you know how do you as a as an attorney number one i i think you had told me i think previously
that a lot of the stuff you have been doing since covid has been more so a passion project for
you know obviously human rights rather than you know hey how much can i get paid to do this
and I think it's because your belief, your core belief of, like, I got to find the truth,
and I don't want to make a difference, right?
Yeah, because when we did go, when people restricted, and I sort of took a break from law,
we opened a coffee, then we parked up in the super center outdoor,
and we just wanted to connect with people because there was a lot of disconnect.
I felt, and what a great time to be able to connect with someone when you have any coffee.
Here, it's really big in Australia, having coffee.
talking to people and at first listening to the media and just the sadness of everybody
and, you know, people not being able to visit people and, you know, at first it was just,
well, everyone was just, you know, disillusioned and what's going on.
And people just wanted to talk and that's what we did.
We just started talking and then we would talk about things and I'd go and have a look at it.
And I wasn't working as a lawyer at the time.
just doing sort of pro bono work, helping people where I could.
And then people started contacting me, help, help I need help.
They're saying, I have to get the vaccine.
I don't want to get it.
I've got these, I've got a condition.
I've got tachycardia, which is, you know, irregular heart.
And they said that I, that doesn't matter.
It's not an exemption because here you have to have a medical exemption to not get the vaccine.
and people have had heart operations.
I had teachers, people in government departments, you know, in prisons.
I know a person personally in prison.
And they said, if you don't get the vaccine, we'll move you to general population.
And they didn't want to go there.
So everything started, people started coming to me because I always spoke out about people's rights on my social media platforms.
and I try to provide education for a small fee
but I was getting bombarded with people going
I'm going to get fired
I've been working this job for 30 years
I've been working this job for 10ians
I don't want to get a vaccine I've got diabetes
and then so you look up
you know here we have a reporting agency
where they report the adverse events
and I lost a lot of friends
or maybe three friends
who did not believe at all about these adverse
reactions to the vaccine
same.
This is not.
But how?
I don't understand.
Like,
and it's the same thing here.
Like,
people don't,
like, believe it.
It's like,
they don't believe.
It's like people don't believe
there's one adverse event.
Yeah.
Like, literally,
ibuprofen kills a lot of people.
But, like,
but for some reason,
yeah,
people are like,
oh,
no, that didn't happen with that.
Yeah.
Yeah,
you're full of shit.
And it's because it has been
media publicized,
politically agended,
and,
yeah,
and all that.
I mean,
so what is,
what is the deal with y'all's government like when okay i i don't know much about australia government
but what all like who is in power right now it's a very conservative conservative government
that's weird uh the the the the prime minister is um from a christian background that's
crazy yeah um and um we we we have we have really two major parties
labor and liberal. Labor
used to be always about the people
and working class and rights.
And liberal is always about big business
and...
So you're saying liberal.
Liberal?
Yeah, they're called the liberals.
They're not in the term liberal
as we see liberals as open-minded
more fluid.
That liberal party here
is the opposite of what
the term liberal means.
But they didn't used to be, right?
The liberal party
has always been
a more
business mining sector
focused
party.
Yeah, but now
there are more for government
is what you're kind of saying, right?
Yeah, they're like
the liberals are more for government?
Big government?
Yeah, yeah, big corporations.
You know, tax breaks for
mining magnates and
Murdoch, you know,
they're all in each other's pockets
basically.
And so it's weird that you say
that conservative
are the ones in power right now
because in the United States,
if we had conservatives in power right now,
we wouldn't even have any,
like, worry whatsoever
about COVID lockdowns.
You know, like, for example,
all of our states that are conservative-led states,
they were wide open during COVID.
And by the way,
they had the same, if not less,
hospitalizations, deaths, and cases
as the states that completely locked down,
which was the liberal.
and I found that always interesting.
But it is strange that you guys have the conservatives in power,
which is the ones that are crazy, like, tyrannizing,
locking down dictatorship type shit.
And if we had that, if we had conservatives here,
which is what Trump fought, you know, Donald Trump fought in the United States,
against the agenda of locking everybody down, taking away their rights,
so on and so forth.
But he was a conservative.
I mean, he was, you know,
Probably not the typical conservative.
That's why people hated him because he was somewhere in between.
But, you know, you couldn't really put a label on him.
But I just find it strange that you guys have a conservative government there because I swear.
I swear, when I heard all this stuff, I was like, they got to be Democrat.
Like they got to be like a Democrat, liberal left policy like we have here.
Yeah, but their government is not the same as ours.
You're right. It's not the same as ours.
Their government is not based on the same things.
Yeah.
You know?
Um, what do you guys think is, so, so have y'all ease the lockdowns now?
Um, yeah, look, it's really weird because, um, we, we can go out and we can associate with people. Um, we, we can't go to some places.
Based on vaccine, right?
Yeah. Um, I, I mean, look, in some places here, they just don't ask. There is businesses that just don't ask. They just let you.
come in and you know
they just ignore everything
but
it depends on where you are I guess
when it happens. The people
that are coming to me for help now in
the firm I met
whilst this whole Russia
Ukraine things have been going on
everything else has been blown up
behind the scenes
so at first they were
mandates they call it mandating but it's
the federal government
has no rights
over the states here
unless they make legislation
and then the states have to follow.
If the federal government don't make a certain,
like pass the certain act,
if they do, the states have to fall in line.
They have to have the same similar act.
And the federal government says,
oh, look, we're not mandating.
Everyone has the right to choose.
But they haven't brought any legislation in saying that.
So the states are just at their own will doing
and whatever they want.
And they've, I mean, in Western Australia is pretty bad.
Victoria was probably one of the biggest working class multicultural states.
I mean, you can't go to work.
No one was allowed to go to work.
And if you go into work, business will be fine 100 plus thousand.
Individuals will be fined.
I can't, like, this is approximately $6,000 to $10,000.
And people are getting, like, terminated because if you're a factory of work,
you can't go unless you prove that you've got the vaccine and now you have to prove you've got
to boost the shot as well um i think we're up to nearly the fourth now boost the shot here yeah
yeah and people are coming to me okay one of my clients works putting are fixing fences to stop the
rabbits getting into the farms all all across queensland in new south wales they said he has to
have the vaccination if they're mandating the vaccination don't want to infect their rabbits now
Other men, the landowners might not like it if you're on their land without the vaccination.
Let me ask you.
Can I ask our question?
Has it lightened up at all?
Like through the Ukraine?
So it's going from, this is what they say.
Okay.
This is the big argument now that I'm having with employers.
It's the health and safety actually have here.
We have to protect our employees.
helping safety.
It's a two-fold thing.
You have to protect your own safety.
They have to protect your safety and the employee's safety.
But they're using those, in order to fulfill our requirements of duties under this act,
we have to mandate this, you know, because everyone else is doing it.
And so now there's no, it doesn't matter if the health minister is directing people to do it.
They're just doing it now to fall into line as, you know, one does one.
other follow and
people are just beside themselves
which I don't know that's a bit of a slang term
in Australian which means
they're so upset that
they are forced into a corner
where you know a couple of my
clients have been working for years
20 years and their job and all of a sudden
they've put in all this work they've been loyal
and now they've been told well you for your
safety right you have to get this
shot yeah
now you do then
Well, it's the same thing with like our airlines, for example.
They were all about like vaccinations.
And if you didn't have that vaccination, you're not working for the airlines.
Yeah.
Well, just like two or three days ago, there's like they're now they're going back and saying,
okay, if you're not vaccinated, you still can come back now.
Yeah, now they're letting airline employees go back.
Oh, yeah.
Because there's work shortages.
Yes.
There's not enough people working.
Exactly.
And everything's falling over.
Well, so here's the deal with the...
I wanted to say something, sorry.
You said...
I'm sorry.
Yeah, go ahead.
But my job which I was working, I was delivering alcohol for Woolworths, which is a big grocery supermarket type.
National sort of place.
And at the start of COVID, I was considered an essential worker.
So during the lockdowns...
You better be considered essential.
Yeah, if you're delivering alcohol, you're essential, for sure.
Yeah, exactly.
But, you know, there was no one on the roads.
Everyone was locked down their houses.
We were driving around all over Brisbane.
So it's a pretty big area.
You know, being at risk of contracting COVID and spreading it.
You know, this is way before the vaccinations were even out.
And, you know, then they said to us, if you're not fully vaccinated, so that's your all three,
you're two and your busar by the 31st and March
like you've no longer got a job
so you know
and I no longer work there anymore
and part of the reason like we moved
but part of the reason was I was not going to get the
vaccination and it goes Charles working there for
six years and
you know when
when we were working in the middle
of the pandemic
like we were putting ourselves at risk
Well, apparently putting ourselves at risk.
Well, everyone was safe, locked in their homes.
And now because we don't want to get vaccinated, now we lose our job.
You know, it's...
And there's a lot of people who I was working with
who have left the company for the same reason I did.
Also, can I just say, physically,
what happened with Luke's job is they had a COVID outbreak
and didn't tell anybody.
And it got swept under the carpet.
and then when everyone found out a whole heap of workers, 100 workers walked off site.
And it goes to show where their position lies because they're not really concerned about it.
It's about business and money because if they're really concerned about people's health,
why did they not do the right thing, you know, do the testing, you know, send workers home,
make sure everyone's safe.
And when it came out, I mean, everyone went crazy here.
I mean, there was not enough people delivering food to the supermarkets.
And toilet paper, I don't know about you guys, but toilet paper became a very valuable item.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Oh, my God.
I mean, it's absolutely ridiculous.
Holy shit.
I mean, holy shit.
I should say holy shit.
It's not ridiculous when you're trying to use paper towels that don't go down the toilet.
Well, but listen.
So, okay, let's get back really.
quickly to the the we're going to get into to i guess a little bit of the conspiracy side of things and i know
you're an attorney uh you guys have listened to our podcasts or i know your husband has this
great reset and whatever but um so we got this vaccine passport now you you guys actually have
this it is a it is a digital thing that is on your phone yeah which by the way i would actually
love to know i would love to know and i'm i need to
looked this up and I actually didn't know you guys fully implemented that but I would I would like
to know who created this.
Yeah.
I actually am dying a corner now but I do remember looking looking at this.
And I think the company that creates this sort of technology is a company based in the US.
IBM?
It's not IBM, is it?
Hopefully it's not IBM.
Please say it's not.
I would have to double check.
Because when I was getting visits to my,
again, a lot of companies are pharmaceutical owned by,
the biggest shareholders of Vanguard and BlackRock,
which is the two.
Oh, yeah, they're the biggest companies.
They own everything.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so that's another rabbit hole.
And so I never used to believe in conspiracies because I was, you know,
I was all about justice and rights and everything will be fine.
You know, you just have to follow the process.
And then I met Luke and he was a very big conspiracy through it.
And when this all happened, I just let my mind open, but also I actually went and looked at things because we have the internet.
We have access to information.
And you can find what you want right in front of your eyes.
And that's what I found.
And that's when I realized a lot of things Luke talked about quite possibly don't are true.
And now nothing surprises me.
When I hear a conspiracy theory, I go could possibly be right.
Yeah.
Exactly.
So BlackRock and Vanguard and all them, they, it's kind of funny because if Luke listened to the Great Reset podcast, great reset podcast, one of the things about the great reset that they promise and they, it has to be part of their plan is the fact that they are, they want everyone to not own anything.
That's kind of a socialism thing.
and they want people to live in bigger, like, dwellings closer to cities.
They want everyone to live in a place closer to everyone.
Black Rock and Vanguard and all of them are buying up mega, mega giant condominium areas,
and they are making them government-assisted livings.
And it's kind of interesting because if you look at the Great Reset and the New World Order
and what their agenda is, they want everyone to live closely knit,
together. They don't want anyone to own anything.
But also...
But listen, I'm pretty sure that Black Rock...
I'm pretty sure that Black Rock owns part of IBM now.
So, I don't know that.
Microsoft as well, because I just looked at him up yesterday.
This was going on a bit of a, like, Robert Hall, a search.
And, yeah, they, Microsoft and Tesla as well, as I think the top.
And also interesting enough, they own a technology, well, they invest their shares in a technology company, which has, and I need to correct myself probably here, but has, produces technology that has something to do with metal oxidization and frequencies.
And I know you understand when I talk about frequencies.
and the effect that they can have on you.
And this is where I know.
Right. Oh, absolutely.
Yeah. And they have this,
they have like a big share in this company that
has to do with technologies in those areas.
Well, you know, IBM, I don't know if you guys know this,
but I know IBM.
Yeah, IBM was actually, I don't know if you know
when they first started was during Hitler days.
And IBM was the reason that
they're the ones that
but they were the reason
that Hitler was able to know
who all the Jews were
because
because what IBM did was
okay so Hitler and the Germans
they had to figure out a way
to figure out who all the Jews were
to cleanse the Jewish population
and so they needed
a company that could have some type
of back then data
back then it was an algorithm
yeah it was like a data thing it was like the first
first algorithm in our time, but
it was like an algorithm, but it was like data
driven, it was a punch card type system.
Yeah. And,
but when they did this to the Jews,
they didn't let the Jews know,
hey, we want to know who all Jews are.
It was just a system
they implemented.
To find out who they were.
The company is the one that implemented this.
Yeah. And this was an American country.
Well, I think. I don't know. But anyways,
but IBM's the one to implement this.
And this was
the very beginning of IBM
and then so then about a year ago
we hear the IBM is
working on and heavily working on and getting systems
ready for a digital ID passport
or a vaccine passport. Yeah saying
if you have the vaccination or not
if you're allowed. Yeah, if you're allowed anywhere.
And it's going to be digital.
And I think I goes even further than that because
my oldest son has everything on his
phone from his driver's license to his medical records, his vaccination stays to his cards.
I mean, I have my cards and my phone. It's very inconvenient when I don't have my phone, which I don't
want to be a part of that anymore, but he doesn't even have to have anything on him. And the next
thing will be, oh, let's make it easier. You don't have to have any phone. Yeah, let's go ahead and
plant this little thing in your arm and we'll just like scan you. Yeah.
Yeah.
But, you know,
I mean, China's like that anyway, isn't it?
You go, like, one of my friends went over there to get funding for an app.
And he said, you walk into a shop there, the locals, they don't need care and think they're scanned.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, and China's got this social credit score, which is what the world is trying to move towards.
Right.
And what population you're going to belong to.
Yeah.
But the thing about it is, too, is that this, this, nine months ago, or no, no, not, not, not two years ago.
Two years ago, this vaccine passport that is digital was a conspiracy theory.
If you talked about this on a podcast or YouTube especially, they would say you are a conspiracy theorist that's trying to push conspiracy theories.
Well, you guys are there now.
And the other funny thing is, like, how much stuff, how much you guys in Australia rely on IDs and things that tell you who you are and who you're not is all digital.
now. We don't have that in the United States
for the most part.
Because we have
we do have one party that fights
hard against that
because they know what the end result
of that is going to be. Like for
example, my birthday is Sunday. I've got
to go renew my driver's license.
I can't do it on the internet.
I have to physically
go to the DMV, which is the
driver motorcule vehicle,
like whatever it is. But I have
physically go to that building. I got to do
an eye test. I got to do all that stuff.
And then you get a physical license.
Yeah. So,
yeah, like, it's, United States
is different than there. But that's what I'm saying.
I feel like that's better to do that
than have to do online because,
you know,
uh,
yeah,
it's,
it's too difficult. There's so many
difficulties and everything and
are being present, uh, face to face.
They,
it's sort of like trying to make it easy, but making it more
difficult.
Exactly.
The distractions, the distractions where you have to, because it's all done
digitally, to get in contact with someone, you have to ring up with that business.
And you have to sit on the phone for 40 minutes and wait for someone to talk to you.
And then maybe the line drops out and then you have to ring back again.
Exactly.
It takes so long to do anything.
You don't have the time to, you know, for that.
Yeah.
And half that time you can't even talk to anybody.
Yeah.
If you need to.
Yeah.
So I will tell you guys, and hopefully Luke can hear me,
because I think maybe Luke is, I don't know, I think you both are this,
but I think Luke kind of maybe, maybe I'm wrong,
and you can correct me if I'm wrong,
maybe Luke got you into your open mindiness more than yourself did.
Does that make sense?
I think I was, I was always open-minded,
but I think when you get into the swing of life
and you get caught up in the way things are
and raising children, doing the work,
and being, like, working in the system,
you forget exactly that you're more than that.
And sometimes it takes somebody to rejig that in your mind.
I got to, yeah.
We both connected in the way that we like to talk about things and reflect.
And that opened up, it opened up, it re-hashed things for me.
It opened me up again.
Well, it helped you in your profession, too, obviously.
At the time when I was really struggling with feeling so depressed about the justice system
not working for people.
And it isn't working.
And it's because everything's so complicated.
It's not about fairness or justice.
It's about who can say, who can manipulate the words, who can be better reputationalized in front of the judge.
Who can, you know, and so.
I wanted to find a different platform for people, you know,
to look outside the box, find another way,
and really look at what defines you as a person, is it your job?
At the end of the day, when you retire,
and you're not worth anything anymore to the system.
You here in Australia, you get paid.
We're lucky, I guess, in some sense that pensioners here,
people that retire will get assistance, $350 a week.
Yeah.
But that's it.
And, you know, you see older people at the counters scrounging around to buy, you know, some shopping and they hate their struggle because they're not really worth supporting, even though they spent the past, you know, whatever how long working and paying their taxes and providing income to the government, which is supposed to represent us.
Exactly.
And just like you said, when they get their retirement, they get like nothing.
Yeah, I mean, they get a little bit.
They get a little bit to live.
Like, I laugh at that.
Like, everything people put into retirement, and then when they retire, they get nothing.
I mean, they get something, but it's just enough to get you to death.
Yeah, exactly.
But listen, here's my thing about, like, where the world's going, and we're going to talk about.
So, COVID has a new variant coming out.
Dr. Falsy is back in the headlines.
Everyone's been wondering where Dr. Falsy is.
Well, he's back again, and he's talking about, hey, guys.
we just better start thinking about lockdowns again and all this shit.
Well, because China is saying they're on lockdown.
China, yeah, China is now saying that they are at the worst lockdown they have been and the worst case of COVID.
And it's an Omicron variant.
No, it isn't.
No, it isn't.
That's what they said.
It's not Omicron Barron.
That's what I heard.
It's not Omicron.
It's like a variation of Delta and Omicron.
Yeah, that's what's come out here.
We had someone at the service station, petrol station.
saying, oh my God, it's been 50,000 people.
Funny thing is, last year, there was probably people or a thousand people apparently had COVID.
And I'm a good word that professionals in the medical, in hospitals saying there's no COVID ward here.
There's not been a COVID ward for months, yet they're all about COVID.
And all of a sudden there's thousands of people with COVID.
And we're not in lockdown.
and we're not wearing masks
and but you know
if you're unvaccinated
and the vaccine you can't mix with the vaccinated
because God forbid you could give them something
but I didn't think you could
No well that means zero sense
Zero sense
It doesn't and that's the problem
Why don't people understand this doesn't make sense
It's the same thing in America though
I swear to God
Some people in America
are the same people in Australia
No they are they don't freaking get
like the real like logistics of this whole thing.
No.
But listen.
So if we talk about the Great Re-Say,
we talk about all this,
this is where,
unfortunately,
I feel like we're at in this world.
Like,
I feel like we're living in a time right now
that we don't quite understand
the gravity of what we're living.
I feel like we are living in a situation right now
that it is,
if you read this,
what we're going through,
and what is actually happening,
happening in the world a hundred years from now in history. And you see this and you're like,
holy shit, this is crazy. I'm reading a book and it's like, oh, here's history. I think where we're at
right now with what people would be reading is about midways through the book. And let me tell you
something, midways through the book, it is not the climax. It is not the end all, be all. And this is
the crazy shit that happens. I don't even think we're midways. I literally think we're three-quarter
of the way through the book, and you're about to find out the grand finale, the crazy
shit that happens, we're almost there.
Like, we are a quarter of the book away from the grand finale.
The thing that took us away from COVID for maybe two months is Ukraine, Ukraine, Russia War.
And Russia War.
Which, by the way, has, from what many people say, has to do with bio labs as well.
I believe, you know, we're going to be screwed by a virus.
Bill Gates himself,
all these other people talked about
population control, population control.
But meanwhile, while we have population control,
let's lock down the people that don't die
from it. Let's make them be
scared as possible. But meanwhile, Putin's
pissed that we have biological
places in Ukraine.
Of course we do. You know?
Of course we do. I'm just saying if I were
him, I'd be pissed too.
Well, yeah, but I mean, look, I'm not
just fine at all.
I'm not just defined.
I don't think he's psycho.
But I'm just saying
if our enemies
had biological weapons
at our border,
I wouldn't like that.
You got to get rid of that shit.
You know, the question to me is
and what I've been going is
with the
what I've been looking into a bit
is the control of the DNA
and the sequencing of DNA.
And I'm not a medical person,
but I'm trying to
to learn.
Talking about the vaccine.
Yeah.
So I think it goes a lot further into manipulating DNA.
You control people by making the form.
And you can see that in history with Mao Zedong,
your own China,
you know,
where if you still fear
into people and create fear where it doesn't belong,
even in your friends and family,
you can have those people turn against you.
Exactly.
And we forget why, because no one questions it.
And if you stop questioning things and you lose your ability to be human and have choice and freedom.
And I think that's what they do.
They just cause so many distractions and so much confusion.
People look to the government to say, well, what are you going to do?
How are you going to help us?
How are you going to save us?
Yeah.
Yeah, when they're not supposed to be in that position.
And they're going to be there to represent us to take the money that we give them to make our life better and easier and happier, not to impose and crouch on our freedoms and stop us from being happy and to use us as an economic tool to line their pockets.
Because here the government says, oh, you've got free vaccinations, free rat tests, which is the rapid antigen test.
But guess who's paying for that?
And guess who's paying for the new compensation scheme that they have for people that have ads,
adverse reaction to the vaccine.
We pay for it.
Not them.
Well, what do you think, I mean, you know, here's the reality of what I think is that
we are in a time in our history and in this world.
I've often, I've often, I mean, we've talked about UFOs.
We've talked about, you know, like, if you're a civilization that has technology to get
to another planet, especially outside of the solar system, you don't have a
screwed up of a world as what we have.
You don't because you're never going to get to another solar system being as screwed up as we are because we're not.
I mean, I mean, look at even the space station argument right now.
I mean, Putin is trying to say that he wants to detach the space station.
He wants to leave our astronaut there and he wants to bring his home, even though now it's like, I guess they're both coming home.
Yeah, he said he said he wants to send the space station into the United States with our astronaut on it.
But I think this is not how we evolve as a species.
We are killing ourselves.
And I think in my mind, like how bad shit has gotten with people's, whether it be pride, whether it be just the stain for humanity or life in general, it's not going to be a comet that takes out Earth again.
It's not going to be that.
be people.
That is what is going to take out humanity.
Yeah, of course.
I think for me, like,
it's when we decided
that we
applied a value to
what we could do or who we were,
because once you can use
your cans or whatever as
a form of currency
or what you can do,
I can build something or I can be a farmer,
then you have this competing
system of, you know,
you're more valuable because you can do that more valuable and then you start
implementing system, car systems and you know you should work harder you should
have this family because you know you can sort of almost manipulate the way people
are by manipulating the way that they see themselves in the system as a member of society
valuable only for their economic contribution I sort of think that the
of humans isn't about money
and that is what
drives everything now
and once you attack
what do you guys think of the United States by the way
like I mean what what is Australia's
sentiment on the United States
and the government like what do you guys
hear over there like overall
yeah overall like just overall
like Australians about
Americans I'm just curious
yeah I'll just say
I've been to American I think American
American people are wonderful
I love the American people
but no offence to
the people who believe in their government
American people believe in their government
but
I along with a lot of
other Australians see the American government as
as a bully
you know like
like the ultimate bully
yeah
yeah like they
it just seems as though they love to get their
you know
love to have their hands in
in everything and be stirring things
up when they shouldn't be, you know, like,
but that's, that's just my opinion.
No, that's true.
It's also similar here.
I think, I think it's similar here as well.
Oh, absolutely.
I think the difference in the political system is, you know,
you get to, you know, people can vote in judges there.
I think we have a lot more, the government have a lot more control,
and the state's government have a lot more control after we vote them in.
and over
our judges and our system
whereas Americans have a lot more freedom
but then also it gives
you know
the people in power can also manipulate
people to the way they want in situations
but I just don't know
if there's any government that's really
Yeah
Do you not think governments have too much power then?
Yeah, I was going to ask Terry
I like that
I mean like yeah
Do you not think governments
I mean the reality
The reality is that we were supposed to elect these people to, you know, look out for us.
Well, that's gone.
We don't know about Australia.
We know about our country.
No, Australia's the same way.
Most countries elect governments to look out for the people, supposedly.
But the reality is that we always somehow get comfortable with just being ruled.
And the further we get ruled and more and more and more.
It's like the queen of England.
Yeah, they take away your freedoms one and one and one.
but like when is it like how who the hell i mean i say who the hell ever elected these people
to be over us but we did supposedly yeah but who but who thought that was a great idea yeah but i
also think chad like there's only 10% if you want to if you want to if you want to convince somebody
of something don't just go out and say it to their face slowly convince them of it whether it's
real or not and if you um if you want to control okay so at the market
moment, you can, you know, they'll say we need more teachers, we need more this, you know,
control your education, what people learn, you know, if they become, you become, the society
that you live in is, it's not about your choice and about what you want to do, it's about sort of
what you're told you need to do. And whether people have forgotten, I think people have forgotten
that, I don't, I think maybe, but how you get back to that, I don't know if you can,
but it needs to be some sort of shift in the way people think and the way in which governments are accountable.
So what do you guys recommend people doing?
You know, I know this is like, how have you guys fared mentally through all this COVID shit?
I mean, has a mental situation been, you know, have y'all been depressed?
How have y'all escaped that?
Is that something that you guys?
Yeah, we've been up in, I think just through a learning.
understanding that everything that we know might be just different to what we actually were actually being said to us and um just coming to terms with people and uh you know and i don't say this in a way where i'm saying people that have been educated more intelligent because that's not true but where i've got friends that have been educated to understand understand why i was taught about critical thinking and where people don't actually think critically anymore about what being told uh some people
people I've known that I would have thought would be really critical about what they were being told.
Absolutely weren't.
And so that was quite upsetting just to see the division so quickly arise between people.
Because between families and my clients come crying in my office,
boy, and arise at saying, I can't even visit my family because they say I, they won't see me
because I can't even see my grandmother because I don't have a vaccination.
Is that because you're a grandmother or because the government?
well she is really old and she didn't think it was oh well whatever she's told in it and the funny
yeah yeah and she went to her doctor and doctor told her well it might not be a good idea so uh she's believing
that i might kill her if i'm not vaccinated but she is yeah is that crazy though
yeah but it's not the government my my grandmother's german she she lived in germany she was in
Germany during the war
and her husband was in
the Hitler youth
and I thought it was interesting
but she said
you know she I was asked her what was going on
what happened there
and she said oh I just didn't know we didn't know
we lived in the country we had a farm
we just did our thing
all the while her father
is delivering notes to the soldiers
and has prisoners
of war on his farm
but I
find it hard. It's called, I believe, willful blindness because to try, for some people,
and a lot of people, it's better to look away and ignore it than to accept that it's so
controversial is actually truth rather than, you know, because it's so blatantly obvious. It can't
be true. Yeah. It's insane. Well, I mean, and hopefully, you know, with a new very
variance coming out. I mean, it's going to
wrap around back into, again,
it's going to be a, it's going to be another
wrap around. Yeah. No, no one ever thought
this shit was over, you know, a month ago. I mean,
people want to wish it is. No, it's not. And it's not
going to be over it. The Great Reset, the New World
Order. If anyone ever actually
looks into that, we've had many podcasts on that,
this is a, this is an agenda that they want to
control everyone.
to a further extent.
I mean, for example, the United States of America.
I mean, you know, like you said, yes, we have been bullies and many conflicts and many things that we created.
But the world has always kind of looked at the United States as like the freest country, even though it's really, it has been, and it was, but it's not now.
And so when America starts falling, and this is a thing that like, you know, countries around the world look at this.
And they're like, oh shit.
I mean, if America is starting to lose their freedoms,
then that gives governments around the world what they feel is the freedom to take away their people's rights.
And it's the same thing with Russia right now.
They know America is the weakest has ever been.
And yet, that's why they're doing this.
They know we're not going to do anything.
And we haven't.
And whether we should or shouldn't is a whole other debate.
But the reality is that strength is,
everything you need.
The appearance of strength is everything you need.
But I still go back to
who the hell said that
a group of people that are
95% of time,
the most corrupt people in the
freaking universe,
is who is over
the general population of people.
Because these same people are the ones
that divide the people,
the majority.
I mean, think about this.
You've got, you got...
a new concept. It's an old
concept of divide and conquer
and people hated
the government here.
People don't trust the government
that we didn't trust the government
but all of a sudden they trust the government now.
The government is trying to help to protect.
It is weird.
To see people
swing, I don't understand.
But I
say look, if something doesn't feel
right if you don't, if you don't
think it's right then it's not right you can't sit there you know because even people we know that
are quite steadfast in doing the right thing by the government and living by the rules or whatever
um say oh but it's yes it's not right that this happens but how can it be right or you know
how can that be right wrong then like you have you sort of have a part right and a part wrong
that you can't
do you know what I mean
you can't say that you can restrict all this
for that reason but it's wrong
yeah
well so what is your
so what are you going to do
kind of going forward
I mean you know
do you think you've got somewhere
as far as kind of what you guys are doing
with lawsuits
and if lockdowns come
again have you learned anything from the previous
lockdowns is there anything that we can do
at all
to stop the same thing
that happened before.
I think first of all,
it's about people speaking out
to each other about, you know,
and not being afraid of just being different.
Yeah.
Because sometimes people think the same way.
You know, and they just
are fearful of speaking out
or being different.
And whether that happens on a one-on-one basis
or two-and-two, and even starts
with a simple,
oh, no, this is really hard,
on me, yes, it has a been heart in your family, and creating justice support system for people
in the little thing that you can do, whether it's a brief conversation.
And putting a doubt in someone's mind, I guess that's the right way to say it.
Even speaking up about, you know, they always, they had this big media thing about violence
against women here and not being men in a group making jokes about, you know, rape or whatever,
you know and the big media thing was you know just speak up about it and don't agree with it you know
don't acknowledge it and speak up and that sort of breaks that culture of repetitive um you know of that
sort of culture manifesting so i guess that's what we have to do on the on the basic level
no i'm sorry okay now now i was going to the last thing i was going to say is you guys you guys
Do you guys live near, like, do you live near the coast in Australia or now?
We're about two hours, two and a half hours from the coast.
Okay.
We left because I went through a stage where we were both very fearful of,
there's some real stuff on the internet about quarantine camps being built around Brisbane, Gold Coast,
and even when we're near.
and a lot of changes to our biosecurity act which says that a person can detain another person
if they deem them a health risk and that health risk can just be on their own decision
and they can detain them for as long as they think that they're a health risk so that's a very
general broad word it's not classifying it is it they're sick they have been tested
it's saying if that person feels that their health risk that they can detain for as long as possible
and that they can treat that person if they so want to and children don't have to have their parents
only somebody that's in in like able to care like in the capacity of a carer so these like changes
have just been made in 2021 which is really scary and and I hope that doesn't have any any long-term effects
but possibly it could in that the next level is detaining people if they're not vaccinated
into camps.
So we wanted to remove ourselves from metropolitan areas.
So we could just get up and leave for one and two.
Well, you guys are camping this weekend, right?
Yeah, they're camping.
Going out and just chilling, hanging out.
Oh, yeah, beautiful waterfalls.
Lots of, lots of floods here.
Lots of people in very distrustful situations,
and our Prime Minister was absent for that for a bit.
Though he cares about everyone's health, he wasn't here,
to support people when they, like,
a lot of people died in the floods here.
And the second time, in the,
last time he wasn't available was when we had the big fires of 2020.
I remember those.
Oh, my gosh.
That was awful.
Yeah, so, and then we just had a whole lot of floods as well.
And so there's a lot of community support.
Well, a lot of people creating like-minded communities and talking.
I think that's a basic first step is to just decompensate and get back onto ground level
and talk to each other, reconnects and stop being divided, you know,
and finding those light-minded people and thinking outside the box.
And, you know, your life,
doesn't depend on the system that you've created.
At the end of the day, we don't have a lot of debt.
We don't have mortgages.
We don't have kids in schools, private schools.
So we could say, I don't care.
I'm going to, I'll just sell everything and leave.
You know, and if they want to chase me for a bill, well, they can chase me for it.
Yeah, I know it sounds crazy.
Like you said, like-minded people, but, you know, I hate to say it.
But in 2022, I just don't, I mean, we may convince a few people that are, that are so far gone, you know, that are on
that other side, you might
convince some of those people, but I think
for the most part, if all
hell breaks loose,
the shit hits the fan,
you know,
I think it should always, oh, I hope
it should always be something that everyone has.
Hope is one of the most,
I think one of the, the biggest human
attributes that we can use.
Once you lose hope, then you lose
everything.
And,
No, one of our friends
I was saying
Yeah, one of our friends
He's fully vaccinated
Got his booster shot
And he was there
While we were talking to you guys
For the first time
And I was telling him about you guys
And I said just listen to
The podcast you did on
Australian Tyranny
And he's gone and listened to them
I think he's listened to a few others
And so like
It's getting him thinking
Which is, in my eyes
It's a positive
You know, it gets one person thinking that they could get someone else thinking, you know, it's like a chain reaction sort of thing.
It's not about thinking who's right wrong.
Yeah.
It's about thinking about what's happening.
Another perspective.
Yeah.
Exactly.
And not just accepting things.
It's weird.
It's weird.
I wish I knew if you guys were like us here.
Like over here, like with social media and the left and right side, there is no other perspective to the other side.
I mean, it's like, there's just, it just doesn't happen.
Yeah, it's my way or the highway.
Yeah, even if you have 100% factual evidence,
nobody's going to believe each other's perspective.
Yeah, it's the same.
A lot of people like that.
Yeah, it's nuts.
There's a lot of people sitting on the fence too.
I think, even if there's a small portion of people that think like you,
that's a lot of power in there as well.
And you can only do as much as you.
you can do and I can
only fight as hard as I can fight and I'm fighting
to losing battle right now with some of my clients
and by the way you guys are going to do a podcast
I don't want to forget this so
and I think you guys
should announce what your podcast is going to be and we can
you know announce this
in the future as well but
so what is your what is your
podcast going to be about I know you said you're going to
start it and what is it going to be about and
what's the name of it and give me give us
all that information
um we decided to call it that on the car
Spell that.
Spell that so people know what you're saying.
Especially for Americans.
Because I hear Anikoff?
No, yeah, like Anakie, but like Anacoff.
A and A.
Okay.
Spell it again one more time.
A and A R?
Um, here.
We got to get it right.
You spell it.
It's N-A-N-A-C.
Okay.
So, A-N-A-R-C-A-S-T, An-A-R-C-A-S-T, N-A-C-A-C-A-C-N-A-C-A-C-R-K.
Okay, okay.
People write it down.
Chad, say it.
You can't even say it.
An-Cart.
Is that An-C-C-R-C-T?
Yeah.
And-R-C-C-R-N-A-C-R-N.
No, not-C-C-T.
You know, like, anarchy used to be a dirty word, but I feel like it's, I feel like it's a word that we should reflect on it at this point in time.
This has got to be an Australian word.
Yeah, because this is not dirty word for us.
Anarchy, yeah, you know.
Oh, Anarchy.
Anarchy.
Anarchy.
Okay, sorry.
Oh, Anarchy.
I don't know.
It's my pronunciation.
Anakai.
She says Ananaki.
You know.
Anarchy.
Anarchy.
Tara has a thicker Australian accent than Luke.
Yeah.
Have you noticed that?
Yeah.
She says anarchy.
Yeah, a redneck boygan.
She's a redneck.
So wait, wait, which one's redneck?
Tara is great.
So why sometimes when I get in the court, I sound much more, you know, particular.
So you would consider yourself a redneck over there.
Tara is a redneck in Australia.
I just consider it a thicker accent.
But like, so who's a redneck and me and Sherry?
Probably me.
You're totally erratic.
I think I think
I think we both rednecks
I like to get a bit of redneck on
and then we both
And you know
Because I work when I work in against other lawyers
Or I'm in the court system
I have to be much more proper
And speak differently
And not use certain slang words
But when I'm relaxed
I just talk about the way
I want to talk
A bit of a bogan
Well I wasn't even talking about
like your her language or anything
it's just the accent. Yeah, the accent.
Well, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's the accent. It's that's similar to like if I was to say
you sound like when you
like Texas, people with Texans.
Yeah. They're more of a southern accent.
No, but that's quite strong to me.
But we're in South Carolina. Like when I hear a southern accent
compared to another.
All right, listen, say if I say this,
hey boys, we're down here in South
Carolina and we love South Carolina.
Yeah, y'all come down.
now.
Oh, she's got it.
Tara, you are right now.
Tara, you got it.
We officially designate her as a redneck.
Tara can be a redneck.
So listen, Tara, if you guys come to the United States, you have to come to South because, you know.
Oh, yeah.
You've got the accent.
We can't wait.
We're going to have to smuggle ourselves in someone's back at this moment.
I don't even know if you can leave Australia.
Can you leave Australia?
Well, Rickman, can I quickly tell you that the new directions are that unvaccinated people can come into Australia,
and then you have to, I think, quarantine for seven days, and they're quite happily can totter off and do what they want.
But I'm not sure if we can leave, but they've eased all these restrictions.
And just notably, the Omnucon Bites came in, which came in by,
a vaccinated person
and
of course
they're like all these vaccinated people
yeah yeah but they're blaming the unvaccinated
yeah yeah and now
now they've
they've opened up our country to unvaccinated
people as well so I'm just
waiting for what you know that little
spin off
yeah yeah it's funny because you know
it's
Well, I'm just going to tell you both.
The spin-off is going to be as soon as it gets summer and gets nice in Canada and Australia.
That new variant's going to come around.
Yeah, it's going to come around and they're going to lock us down.
They're going to lock us down again.
I guarantee it.
I don't know if they're going to lock us down here.
They're saying it's coming into winter here when you're summer.
And they're saying that we're going to see a lot of problems.
Now, I just quickly mention this, sorry, one of the health ministers,
health minister I came out and said, we've introduced all this.
So we have a system of health where they will pay a certain amount of money for a certain treatment.
You know, not all treatments are paid for.
Some cancers aren't, treatments aren't paid for.
But on the same day, they said that they would give people that they might suspect of having adverse reaction to the vaccine with my heart.
itis.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, they would, the government would pay for the scan.
They are now saying that they have a new treatment because, and this is, this is what
we say in Australia, Riggie Ditch or genuine factual information on the government's
page I can send through.
The helplessness has said, there's going to be a lot of heart attacks next year.
Oh, of course.
And we've got this new, you know, we've got this new treatment.
to help people in these situations.
And guess who the company is that makes this treatment?
Probably Pfizer and Moderna.
Yeah.
Yeah. Well, you know, the funny thing about it is, is that, you know, blood clots and people from 18 to 34 has went up like 75% in the past nine months.
I mean, this is a thing that you look at death, sudden deaths.
We've talked about on the podcast before with the vaccine thing.
Like whether, look, I'm just saying this is not, you can look up the stats.
They, when they started having unvaccinated, okay, you guys, do you guys know in Australia that we've, like the United States, and it's probably around the world, but the United States alone had more deaths from COVID supposedly in 2021 than they did in 2020, which was the height of the pandemic, okay?
So that sounds crazy because guess what?
We had vaccinations in 2021.
So how in the hell could we have more deaths in 2021?
Okay.
Well, we've explained this before.
The reason we had more deaths in 2021 in the United States from COVID, even though we had vaccines
available, was because of the fact that they didn't classify you as fully vaccinated
until 17 days after your second vaccinated.
So when this death spike started coming in, it was from people that were also dying from the vaccine.
Exactly.
So they counted that for COVID.
And then they said, oh, you've got to get another dose now.
Yeah.
You got to get your third dose.
So they counted this for COVID.
And so there's all this lingo and all this bullshit that they talk about, you know, whatever.
But it's nuts.
But Tara, do you got, what vaccinations do you?
you guys use there? Like what?
Do you guys have Pfizer-Modernia?
Yeah, Moderna, Pfizer, Astridsonica.
We have another three or four coming in.
No, it's, I can't, I can't say the names of them at the moment. I can't recall them.
And then they've got, they've just been approved for another booster of Pfizer.
Yeah, so what I've, what I know, and I don't know anybody that died of COVID.
I know a lot of people have had it.
I do.
Vaccinated, and they've been vaccinated.
My son's had it.
He's vaccinated, and his friends at work have had it.
I still am not yet.
I haven't got it.
Luke and I haven't had it.
My kids haven't had it.
They've had outbreaks at school in the workplace.
But the people that I know that I've had it,
and the majority of people I know have been vaccinated,
some of my clients that I haven't had it,
the vaccine have had it.
And they say it's like a flu, you know.
So I feel like there's a misrepresentation here of reporting.
It definitely is on the government website about people that are getting COVID,
if they're vaccinated or not.
And the majority of those people that are dying from COVID,
if it's from COVID itself as a disease or whatever,
or if it's from the vaccine.
And I think that's the problem.
It's the lack of information.
It's the filtering of information to suit our agenda.
Man, it's crazy.
I mean, it's going to be scary what happens, you know, over the next couple years.
And I hope, you know, for all of us, I mean, you know, Australia, you know, whatever.
The one thing that I've learned talking to you guys and people from around Canada,
we've had people reach out from Ukraine and Russia.
we're all divided, I guess, by country, but we're all human beings and we all have the same beliefs, many of the same beliefs.
I mean, there's literally two sides of people on this, and there's sheep, there's people that believe everything media and government says, and there's people that are not, I guess, ignorant to the fact that there is a truth out there.
And I think that's the main thing that separates people now.
It's not race.
It's not country.
it's where like do we have a right to have rights and and or are we going to follow along and go into this tunnel of death
which is what you know many many of the people in in Nazi Germany I mean with with with you know with the Jews that they would just line up and go to these concentration camps not knowing and and so there's two factions of people now there's people that are going to fight
and there's people that are going to line up and just go.
Yeah, and I just don't know whether that's, you know, on multi-levels of thinking,
if that's a psychological thing, if that's a human socialization thing.
Also, it's a spiritual thing as well that determines different thinking,
you know, in the development of the cerebral cortex and reflective thinking,
questioning your existence and like nobody is born with a book that says that they have to
have a right but I guess we all believe that we have want to be happy and there's also another
book that says we have to do things you know and when rights were like established it was just
initially about protecting you know not harming somebody not killing them not maiming
you do what you want, you'd be happy, and slowly that's been, you know, changed, manipulated
into a set of principles, and now those principles are being limited and restricted again
to take away those rights of being able to be happy and do what you want, you know, without hurting
other people.
Yeah.
So I think that's the fundamental principle is whether or not think about if you're happy,
think about what doesn't make you happy and think about how you can change it.
And that might be changing your whole life, which is really quite confidential for a lot of people
to step out of their existence as they are in society and think,
or maybe this isn't the way I should be.
and who knows
I think a lot of people
will just follow the mentality of the mob
and the conditioning
just it's really easy
it's hard to think differently
I'm constantly criticised
we are constantly criticised
for a way of thinking
because it's different
but in the same token
the law here changed for marriage
with same sex
because they
acknowledge the fact that people have rights
to love each other no matter what sex they are.
Yeah.
And, you know, and the choice, the choice of doing that.
But yet, it's only for, it's only for a certain benefit, you know.
And the reason why we got that legislation through
was because people are outraged about the government was steadfast and not,
they changed legislation to say marriage between two people
because people were getting married
same sex. They changed to marriage
between a man and woman
and that's when we fought
really hard for equality.
So if we fought for equality
why aren't we fighting for choice and freedom
of your body and freedom
why am we saying you can't work
you aren't allowed to live
and earn your money or go out
into public and associate with people
you're turned away from being able to
sit with your children in McDonald's and this is this is okay yeah i mean it's discrimination
it's discrimination all over again i mean it's but yet the other year you were saying it's we can't
have that we can't discriminate against people that you know want to get married and love each other
but where do you draw the line between you know where where's people's uh thinking on that you know
you have a right to to take away someone's likelihood
Uh, yeah, it's just, it's, it's overwhelming.
My, my thought process has always been this, you know, if, if you're gay or if you like a girl and you're a girl and you like a guy and you're a guy, that's your thing, right?
Whether, what I do, this is my thing. Um, I like women. Uh, you like, if you like guy as a guy, you like a dude. That's, that's your thing. And, and, and, and, and, you know, whether I agree with abortion or not, it doesn't matter because that's not my choice. Like, like, that's your choice. That's your choice.
You believe on someone else and telling them they shouldn't do it.
That's when you're taking away.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, just because I say that like I, like, whether I agree with abortion or not, doesn't matter.
Because it's not my life.
Now, I can say like, hey, I don't agree with it or I do agree with it.
But that doesn't mean that you have to do what I fucking tell you because you're your own person.
And the problem is that the government has now made a role to say that I believe,
that all people should do this or that, and that's the, that's the issue.
In the same sense that government's trying to say that people should be able to do what they want to do,
but yeah, at the same time, they say, unless we don't agree with it.
Yeah, it's a complaint contradiction.
Yeah, that's the problem.
But guys, listen, I think we're going to, we definitely got to bring you guys back on.
Yeah, an hour and a half about.
We definitely got to bring you guys on.
I wanted to touch on the COVID thing, and I'm glad we brought you guys on.
I think that, listen, I will predict this.
I think even though you don't think Australia will be in a lockdown again,
I think that you guys will be in a lockdown within three months.
And I think we will be as well.
I think this is the next phase.
And the reason I say this is Anthony Fauci said,
a pandemic has seven phases and we are in phase three.
Yeah.
And I'm lucky because I can work from my own business,
a strategic legal group,
and I can work online.
And that's probably what's made us think about,
thinking about other alternative methods of working.
But a lot of people don't have that choice.
In the cities, like you were saying,
they're trapped in the city.
They have a job in a workplace.
And at the end of the day,
those people are going to feel
that anger and resentment
towards people that can choose.
So I'll best
look at three months time and see what happens
and it'll be interesting
like there's a lot of things going on in the world
and spiritual level and natural level as well
so it'd be interesting to see what happens.
Yeah, the great reset is going to happen man.
The great reset is going to happen.
Oh yeah.
There's no question.
And we'll definitely talk
about that on another podcast soon.
Yeah.
But Tara,
thank you so much for coming on.
Luke,
thank you for coming on.
We really appreciate you guys.
Thank you for being.
Happy birthday, Sherry.
Hope you have great weekend.
Sherry had to go tend to the dogs
because they were going crazy.
So she is there.
But guys, listen,
you guys have a great weekend.
We'll definitely bring you back on.
And we're going to spell out the podcast
that you guys are going to start on our website
and our Facebook. So if you guys are interested in our podcast,
definitely check our Facebook, check all that information.
And we wish you the best like. And we'll definitely bring you back on for other stuff.
Because I promise you, this COVID stuff is not over.
The lockdown stuff's not over.
And you better to keep fighting because it's not going to end yet.
I'll look like I said to you.
I'll go to jail fighting.
Well, that would be awesome.
Well, we need more people like here.
And just like Ukrainians, man, the Ukrainians are fighting for their country.
And I think all of us would.
and you are in your own way.
I mean, it's not, you know,
what is.
I mean, it's human rights.
And I think that's, you know,
we need more people to fight.
We need more people to fight for our rights.
And this is,
these are things that people,
because it doesn't,
because they're not getting shot in those chest by a bullet,
they don't feel like it truly affects them that way,
but it does.
And it will.
Yeah, yeah, it's not just a right for me.
It's the right for we.
It's a right for everybody.
Yeah.
And without that,
we don't have any.
think.
Absolutely.
Well, guys, I hope you guys have a great weekend.
Enjoy your weekend.
And thank you guys so much for coming on.
And we'll definitely have you back on.
Thank you, Tara and Luke.
Thank you.
We'll talk to you very soon.
See you guys.
All right.
That was Tara and Luke, guys.
They are awesome, man.
We really enjoyed really since we've, you know, this whole deal.
I mean, the whole COVID thing, they reached out with the COVID.
They kind of been a part of the Australia situation with the whole COVID lockdown thing.
And it's been crazy in Australia.
And we need people like them.
We need people that are fighting for people's rights.
And so thank you, Tara.
Thank you, Luke.
We really appreciate it.
Sherry did have to go and tend to the animals.
Sorry, guys.
But I don't know what's going to happen.
eventually with all this.
But what I do know is that the Great Reset to 30 on 30 plan,
the New World Order is in full effect.
And we're, this is not just going to all of a sudden get better.
This is a plan.
This is something that is on the agenda.
This is something that is not going to be let go.
The Russia Ukraine thing, the war is awful.
The people, people are dying.
They are in Ukraine.
And we've talked about it a lot.
And, you know, never let a good tragedy go to waste.
And that's essentially what they're doing with this.
They are hiding what their underlying plans are with the next phase of COVID,
the next phase of the Great Reset.
I mean, there's leaders around the world that have came out and said,
the Great Reset is going to be this.
This is what the Great Reset needs to be.
The New World Order needs to be this.
These are leaders around the world that have.
have said this themselves.
And so with the rush of Ukraine thing, yeah, it's happening.
How much has the United States instigated or possibly, I don't know,
tried to convince Ukraine to go into NATO and so on and so forth,
which got them kind of in this situation and vice versa.
It doesn't matter.
All I know is that the media is completely in, I guess, what you would call the
headlights, like a deer.
would be in the headlights. If you, if you catch a deer in light at night, they're going to stop
and they're just going to focus completely on the light. But yet everything else could be going on
around them. And that's what's happening right now. Russia, Ukraine is the light for the deer,
which is us. We're the deer. And everything that's happening around us right now, we don't know.
Because so many people are so apt into what is the media saying? That's how we know.
This is how we know.
And by the way, this is a problem with a lot of us.
And we've done a lot of Russia-Ukraine things,
but we haven't really been talking about the COVID narrative and what's to come.
And that's why we want to do this podcast.
And we want to bring Tehran and Luke and talk about the Australia situation.
But we're also guilty of that as well.
When everything's pushed and pushed and pushed,
we kind of forget about the things that are going to really affect all of our lives.
nuclear war could yeah you're right but if nuclear war doesn't
COVID will and these lockdowns will and so will the mandates
and so will the encroachment on our rights every single day
freedom of speech is gone I mean that's gone
whether you whether you believe or not yeah you can go out there and say
whatever you want to say in public which is why there's so many of these
videographers that go to these police stations and all this shit if you watch any of
those they do this because they want to say they want to make sure
their actual freedom of speech.
I mean, even though I used to hate these people, not hate them,
but I used to always look at these people as like anti-police.
And some of them are.
But then there's also some of them people that go out and speak the truth,
or not the truth, but they say what they want to say freedom of speech-wise.
And they do this in a physical, I'm here form to guarantee their rights to speak freely
because that's really the only way that you can see if your rights even exist at all anymore.
Because the Internet now has become everyone's life.
And the Internet dictates freedom of speech.
They dictate all of this, especially speech.
That's why the First Amendment is first because that is the most important, in my opinion.
The Second Amendment is the second most important.
Your right to bear arms and protect yourself from the government, by the way, is primarily against tyranny.
foreign or domestic.
So this is where we're at.
We're at a time in this world that we either,
we're going to keep going forward,
but there's going to be a breaking point.
I keep saying this,
I keep saying this,
it's going to happen.
And if it doesn't happen from some craziness
that happens around the world,
it's going to happen in countries around the world.
People are, you know,
they're going to this this entity which is the government and the people are going to keep pushing and pushing and pushing their powers on people and trying to take away as many rights as they can and eventually maybe somebody will wake up and maybe they won't maybe we'll all just conform and be freaking robots i don't know because we already are robots in a lot of ways so anyways guys thank you for listening to investigate earth podcast uh this has been another investigator podcast episode on covid 19 uh sorry sherry
I'm going to stay by for Sherry because she's not here right now because of dogs.
But we love you guys.
Thank you for listening.
We've been gone for a little while.
It's Sherry's birthday weekend.
We're going to celebrate for a couple days.
We will be back probably Monday or Tuesday.
And we're going to get deep into the great reset, the new world order, and what's really going on with all this stuff.
So, guys, thank you for listening.
We really appreciate it.
And until next time, peace out.
