Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - DC National Guard Shooting | CIA-Backed Afghan Shooter?

Episode Date: November 29, 2025

Tonight on Investigate Earth, Chad and Sheri break down the shocking shooting in Washington DC where two National Guard soldiers were ambushed near the White House, leaving one dead and another critically injured. This attack has sparked nationwide outrage and intense speculation across social media. What’s raising even more questions is the background of the suspected shooter, an Afghan evacuee who reportedly served in one of the CIA-supported paramilitary “Zero Units” during the Afghanistan war. How did someone with that kind of training and history end up in the U.S. capital targeting American service members? And why was a National Guard soldier like Wolfe potentially singled out? In this episode, we go through what is known, what isn’t adding up, and why his past connections matter. We explore whether this was a lone act of violence or something connected to a deeper network or foreign influence. No spin, no sanitized headlines, just the real questions people are afraid to ask.Visit our merchandise store

Investigator's podcast. I'm a host chat alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. On tonight's episode, we're opening with a story out of Washington, D.C. that has left, obviously, the country stunned, the two National Guard members on duty near the White House were suddenly fired on in an attack that took the life of a young soldier and left another critically injured. It happened in broad daylight in one of the most secure areas in America, and the circumstances surrounding it continue to get more complicated as information comes out. What stands out most is the background of the accused shooter. He wasn't just any recent Afghan evacuee. Reports indicate he served in one of the CIA supported paramilitary units during the Afghanistan War, a group trained, equipped and guided by

U.S. intelligence, and now he's here in the U.S. Capitol opening fire on American soldiers. He raises serious questions about what he was involved in, who influenced him, and whether he acted alone, or is a part of something much larger, maybe that has not happened yet. Guys, welcome to the show. It is November the 28, 2025. The name in this song is May 4th,000. flies into fade and sun and happy Thanksgiving to everyone in America for those non-American listeners, then you missed out because Thanksgiving is very nice. It's a good time to eat with family and friends and turkey usually, even though we had our Thanksgiving last weekend.

We actually have been traveling for about a week. And so my Thanksgiving was ribs and beef and macaroni and cheese and stuff like that. It wasn't the typical American Thanksgiving. It wasn't a turkey and stuffing and all. of that stuff. I think we did have some signs. Yeah, but we did go to Cracker Barrel on Thanksgiving. Don't admit it.

And we had our Thanksgiving dinner. And I know now why they got so mad at changing the little symbol or the logo of the Cracker Barrel old man. Because I told Chad, when we were there, I just wanted to take pictures of everyone because they represent the southern. Demographic, I guess you're going to say to some degree. Cracker Barrel. Yeah, well, the Cracker Barrel that day. That's for sure. No, we actually, it was funny because we were traveling yesterday during Thanksgiving and got back in and we're like, you know what?

We want to try to eat some Thanksgiving. I mean, like a typical Thanksgiving meal. Yeah, turkey, dressing, macaroni and cheese, mashed potatoes. Yeah, we went into Cracker Barrel and it did not necessarily disappoint, although, you know, they had their like special Thanksgiving meal that you couldn't really change the side. You couldn't do this. So it turns out I actually didn't eat Thanksgiving at Cracker Barrel. I ate chicken and dumplings, which is what I always get for. Cracker Barrel.

So I did get the turkey and dressing and it was great. The sweet potato suflay, not so much. No. But it was still, you know, nice to have a Thanksgiving dinner since we didn't get to cook this year. Yeah, for sure. But yeah, we've been traveling. We are actually in the process of moving or relocating, I guess you can say.

We are finally going to get out of the area that we are in. We've been here for a while and we don't love it that much. And we want to be closer to the beach to a tropical environment. That's what we have been actively searching for this past week. And of course, while we were there, so much was going on. We've not done a podcast probably in like a week in a couple, two or three days. But we do promise you guys that December is going to be packed with content because we have so much to talk about. There was so much that happened while we were gone.

And we actually even did bring our podcast equipment, our road travel equipment with us. But we were really just so busy down there. And it was kind of good to just kind of, you know, disconnect from everything for a little bit, not really think about too much, but, you know, I still found myself on X on the internet, kind of looking up what was going on. And especially like the last two days, because we'd actually thought we were coming back a couple of days earlier than we did. And so when we had thought that, I started kind of research and just looking up what was going on, you know, I saw the Candace situation where Candace is talking about that the France government

or French government is plotting a assassination on her. Obviously, that drew a lot of attention from all of the, I guess you can say typical influencers out there, calling her crazy, calling her a psycho. And what we do know is I guess she did send all of this information that she had received from someone inside, I guess, the France government of this assassination attempt to the White House and to the DOJ. They did, I guess at least say they did have receipt of this, although they, I don't believe right now have valid or I guess verified any of the claims.

But we're waiting to see what happens with that. We may do a podcast on that in just a bit. But we also have three eye atlas, which we will probably be talking about tomorrow. There's a lot of new developments on this craft. And I'm going to start calling it maybe a craft because the more and more information that we receive from this, from actual, I guess you can say scientific led groups or these astronomical groups or astronomical groups other than NASA. We're starting to see a lot of things that do not add up with a typical comment. is something that we had been seeing over the past couple of months.

Obviously, when people like Avi Loeb and all of them were saying, look, this has a lot of characteristics that do not look like a typical comet. And so now there are things that are coming out that look even stranger. So we're going to talk about that tomorrow. Could this be alien life? Could this actually be looking more, more like alien life or some type of advanced craft that is kind of cruising through our solar system? And there was some kind of crazy news that just.

came out today and I think they're about to announce something tomorrow about this that I think might change and shake up everything we thought we might know about the three Atlas situation. So bear with us and stick with us. We will have that episode out tomorrow. But for this episode, we had two National Guard soldiers that were shot in broad daylight in Washington, D.C. by someone from Afghanistan. Now, you might think that, you know, from the get-go, and this is the first thing I thought, obviously, I was like, is this the false flag that we have been waiting on?

and we had been talking about this for a few months, and I had said, look, you know, there's likely going to be a false flag coming. And there's various reasons for that. But that was one of the things I have been talking about for a few months. But the more I kind of looked into it and, you know, especially just trying to see how the mainstream media is talking about it, how they're gauging this. Obviously, the right is going to use this against the Democrats because of the open borders, because of what the Biden and Harris administration allowed in across our borders during. their term from 2020 to 2024. You also had this program called allies

or allies welcome, which is actually how this guy was brought into the country. You might say, what is allies welcome? Well, allies welcome is pretty simple actually. In Afghanistan, the U.S. military, along with the U.S. government and the CIA, they actually

contracted people, groups, and I mean, in some cases, even kids as young as 15 and 16 years old, they would essentially train these people to be killers. And there was a group called the Zero Unit or the Afghan Zeros. Now, what the Afghan Zeros are, or they are a death squad. Some of you might remember the contracted groups like Blackwater and Armor Group and some of these other, I guess, militant or not militant groups, but I guess I can say

mercenary groups. The United States actually contracted to go over to Afghanistan and Iraq. And a large part of the reason why it sounds like the United States government did this in countries like Afghanistan and Iraq is because they wanted to get away with things that the U.S. military could not get away with, which is basically outside of the Geneva Convention. And the Geneva Convention obviously just has the guidelines and rules of war that the U.S. military has to operate under for moral and ethical reasoning from, you know, the greatest country in the world being the United States or America.

But how did the military or government, not military, but specifically the government and intelligence organizations or agencies get around that? Well, they utilize these mercenary groups such as Blackwater Armor Group and others, very similar to Wagner Group in Russia. When Russia wanted to do some very heinous, very horrific shit, they would send in the Wagner group. So it wouldn't necessarily represent Russia as much like the Russian military. And also, the Russians.

knew that, you know, look, we, we have a lot of these soldiers that are not going to do a lot of this very, very unmaral things, you know, like that we need done in certain situations. And so what they would do is they would contract and hire the worst of the worst. Like, who are the people that we can find the murderers, the rapist, whoever we can find that basically has no soul and no morals. Let's hire them, train them to be killers, give them and provide them all the weapons necessary to do so. And then let's send them in the war zones to where it's like, well, that's not up.

us, that's not the Russian military. I mean, that's some, you know, outlier group. Same thing to the United States does. And the United States did this also in Afghanistan with the zero group or the zero unit, which were made up of Afghan nationals, more specifically, Afghan army guys that were already trained in military type roles. But then they would take the worst of the worst of the people that they thought that they could, you know, kind of shape and mold into the most ruthless killers you could possibly have.

So if you talk to a lot of U.S. military members that worked alongside, for example, either the Afghan army or even Blackwater and Armor Group. But let's start with Afghan Army. The Afghan Army and I talked with a couple of people, Sharon I did before the show and especially military members. I said, you know, you guys worked with the Afghan army. And so I said, what was your kind of situation with that? Like, what did you think about the Afghan army? How different were they than ISIS? what was the role that they, you know, kind of completed in the operation, not just, what was the

operation of Afghanistan? But anyways, after 2001, after the 9-11 attacks, what was their role? And all of them basically said was the military essentially trained a lot of the Afghan army. And they were, I guess, in some ways, allies to the United States of America. But if you ask most service members, all of them will tell you, although, yes, they were supposedly our allies and we trained them, there were many times that they also killed us. So you couldn't ever trust them. I mean, this was not a situation or people that you wanted to trust.

And the reason of being, and I'm just saying it straight from military members mouths that had been there, done that. The reason is because religion in most cases always outweighs whatever the loyalty or the trust of value or whatever your connection with this group of people is. there was still extremists in the Afghan army, and oftentimes their religious values or whatever they believed, especially about the U.S. military, would always come out over their loyalty to the United States military. And when you talk about their loyalty to our military, why would they have loyalty to our military?

Then they would be granted asylum. Yes. Most of the Afghan army, or especially the zero units that we trained and we sent out there in the battlefield alongside U.S. military, we promised them all of these things. And one of the particular things we promised them was asylum inside of the United States. And this is what I'm talking about when Biden led in many of these people in 2021 on allies welcome. This was a special plan. And the reason being because of this is because we knew and, you know, look, if you're going to train these people to fight against Taliban and ISIS, then obviously if we just leave all those guys behind,

then they're going to be killed. I mean, Taliban's going to kill them. ISIS going to kill them. They're going to know who worked with who. And so this guy that shot these two National Guard members in Washington, D.C., was a part of the zero unit. And we'll talk about in detail what the actual zero unit was. But first, I want to talk about what we know so far about what happened in Washington, D.C. The shooting of the two West Virginia National Guard members in the nation's capital left a lot of questions unanswered. A visual state of suspect in Wednesday's attack is an Afghan national and some details have been released about the two guard members, one of whom has died.

The motive for the attack was not clear. And here's what we know. One national guard member has died. President Donald Trump announced that Thursday the specialist Sarah Bextram 20 died from her injuries and Staff Sergeant Andrew Wolf 24 was in very critical condition. Governor Patrick Morrissey of West Virginia said Friday. I want to go ahead and say that number one, we pray for both of these soldiers. It really kind of took me back yesterday when I was talking about.

talking to my friend and found out that Sarah had actually passed away. I think she was just sworn in a couple of days before. And I just want to pray for both of their families. You know, Sarah at 20 years old is now dead on the day of Thanksgiving. And what a heart-wrenching thing to, like, go through on Thanksgiving to lose your baby of 20 years old. And I am praying for Andrew Wolf's family as well. And I hope he does pull through.

So they were deployed as a part of Trump's crime fighting mission. involved taking over the district of Columbia's police department. Bextram and Wolf had been on orders in Washington since August, according to the West Virginia National Guard. A Bextrum of Somerville, West Virginia had volunteered to ensure the safety and security of our nation's capital. The Guard said in a statement. She graduated from Webster County High School in June of 2023 and enlisted that month, serving with distinction as a military police officer. The Guard said that she exemplified leadership, dedication, and professionalism.

Wolf of Martinsburg, West Virginia, entered service in February of 2019. He graduated from Musselman High School in 2019, said Carla Trotman, a spokesperson for Berkeley County Schools. Now, Principal Alicia Riggelman described him as an active, engaged and high achieving student who was embodied the Appelman spirit, contributing positivity to our school community, both academically and athletically. Now, Janine Pira, the U.S. Attorney in Washington, said the suspect, Ramalana, La Conwall drove from Washington State to launch an ambush-style attack with a 357 Smith & Wesson Revolver. A video reviewed by investigators showed the assailant came around the corner and immediately started firing at the troops, according to Jeffrey Carroll, an executive assistant police chief.

Service members ran over and held down the shooter, who was taken into custody, he said, authorities believe he was the only gunman. Carroll said that it was not clear whether one of the guardsmen or a law enforcement officer shot the suspect, but the suspects' wounds were not believed to be life-threatening, officials said. Now, the suspect and his pathway to the U.S. Now, Lackenwall, 29 entered the United States in 2021 through Operation Allies Welcome. Officials said the Biden administration program evacuated and resettled tens of thousands

of Afghans after the U.S. withdraw from the country. Now, Lock and Wall applied for asylum during the Biden administration, but it was approved during the Trump administration. Afghan Evac said in a recent statement. Supporters have said there was extensive screening and the program offered a lifeline to people at the risk of Taliban reprisals. The initiative brought roughly 76,000 people to the U.S. Many had worked alongside U.S. troops and diplomats as interpreters and translators. The program has drawn intense criticism from Trump and other Republicans over what they have argued are gaps in the screening process and the speed of admissions.

Now, before arriving in the U.S., he had worked with the American government, including the CIA as a member of a member of a partner force in Kandahar Afghanistan, CIA director John Ratcliffe said. Ratcliffe did not specify that work, but said that the relationship ended shortly following the chaotic evacuation of U.S. service members from Afghanistan. A resident of eastern Afghan province of Coast, who identified himself as Lackenwall's cousin, said Lackinwall had worked in a special Afghan army unit known as zero units. A former official from the unit said Lackinwall was a team leader and his brother was a platoon later. Both spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation

or the fear of reprisals. Now, zero units were paramilitary units with Afghans but backed by the CIA. They also served in frontline fighting with CIA paramilitary officers. Activists had attributed abuses to the units. They provided security around Kabul International Airport in the Afghan capital as the Americans and others fell back during the Taliban offensive. Now, there is an article on Roland Stone about who the actual zero units were. And they essentially called this inside the CIA secret Afghan army. And it says it was nearly midnight in February 2021 when Nasir and Dar's team of soldiers pinpointed the location of the suicide bomber's house behind a police station in Jalabad, a city in eastern

Afghanistan. They crept up to the gate and called up the rest of the assault force who would then surround the target and capture him. Andor ordered the Afghan soldier to climb a ladder and call the target out to surrender. under. The house was in the urban area and a firefight of suicide bomb would cause a civilian casualties. As the soldiers made his way up, Andar noticed a newer soldier on his team standing in front of the gate. That's not a place you want to be right before an assault. Andar, who in short but stout with shaggy black hair, jogged over to the soldier and told him to get to the side near the wall

just in case the terrorist open fire through the gate. The two of them then took two steps toward cover. Suddenly the soldier who had reached at the top of the ladder yelled, someone's coming out. They're going to open the gate. Andar looked up just as the man heading to the gate detonated an explosion. The explosion flung Andar into the air, and he landed in a heap, stunned by the blast. Andar knew he was alive because of all the screaming and gunfire, but he couldn't fill his legs. He patted his thighs and shins to confirm both legs were still attached and wiped his eyes. Blood poured from shrapnel wounds in both shoulders and his face.

He flexed his left hand but couldn't move his right one. All around him, zero unit soldiers with their CIA advisors exchanged fire with the terrorist. terrorist. Andar was stuck in the crossfire, pushing the rifle ahead of him. He crawled toward cover. He made it about 60 feet into a clearing before collapsing. And it quotes, this is the last moment he remembers thinking before passing out, I'm not going to make it. Andar, who grew up in Gonsie province, had been working with the American military for around 15 years since he was 18 years old. His team was part of a secret Afghan paramilitary unit led by the CIA called zero units because of their numeric designation, 010, etc. There was no other Afghan. unit on the battlefield with the same training or equipment as the zero units. Trained by American Special Operations soldiers, they acted as the CIA's secret army, carrying out some of the most dangerous missions of the war targeting al-Qaeda and ISIS leaders, plotting to attack the U.S., according to CIA officials who served with the units.

Often members of the Joint Special Operations Command, including SIL Team 6, would be a part of the missions to call in airstrikes, but the bulk of the fighting was done by the Afghan soldiers, led by ground branch officers, CIA. Andar rose in the ranks becoming a commander and eventually moving to the CIA zero unit compound in Jalalabad, where he did intelligence work. That's how he wound up being wounded by a suicide bomber that day. Soon, other wounded soldiers collapsed nearby, including a unit medic. Andar tried to help his teammates but passed out because of the pain, only to wake up with a CIA advisor standing over him shouting, you're going to be fine, you're going to make it. Andar wasn't

convinced. He thought about his new family, how a son would grow up without his father, his wife, a widow, he faded in and out of consciousness, waking again with medics started chest compressions. The third time he came to, tourniquets were on all four of his limbs. He was so cold. Andar learned later he was declared dead after he stopped breathing, only to be saved when a medic noticed his tongue was twisted and opened the airway. Andar's last memory was the helicopter ride to the hospital to the base outside of Jalalabad. Today, standing in his apartment in San Antonio, it is impossible not to notice Andar's service etched in his flesh. His right arm and torso bare jagged scars shaped like crescent moons caused by burst from an AK-47 rifle.

His stomach and chest are a patchwork of pink and white shrapnel scars from the suicide bomber. His arms and his legs tell the same brutal tell. Amid the scars, there are tattoos that mark a crude, faded reminder of his past. On his shoulders is the Afghan National Flag, the symbol of a country he fought and nearly died for. His left arm is marked with a shielded with crossed swords and wings, the Afghan National Strike Unit crest. And he says, we paid the highest cost, he tells me. Every family lost someone, one, two, three, maybe five brothers from each family. I lost two family members.

I'm not even the same person anymore, but I have to act like I'm whole, like I'm strong. I covered the war in Afghanistan for 17 years and the zero units were cloaked in legend. I first encountered them in 2005 at a small U.S. Special Forces base tucked in the Hindu Kush near Asanabad. I stood outside the Operation Center talking to some of the Green Berets when I saw a group of Afghan soldiers wearing night vision goggles line up vehicles with a raid. The night vision peaked my interest because you didn't see it on Afghan troops at the time. I asked one of the Special Forces soldiers who was the Afghan soldiers were. He shook his head.

This wasn't a conversation he wanted to have with a reporter. He says, I don't know what you're talking about, he said. A few years later, I spotted the Zero Unit soldiers again at Camp Chapman near coast on the Pakistan border. Again, I was told by a Special Forces Operation Soldier not to ask questions about them. By then, I had heard about the Secret Afghani War. Afghan army. The only news about their operations came in the aftermath of the killing of a terrorist leader or in accusations of war crimes. Even now, U.S. officials cannot officially acknowledge the

connection between the intelligence agency and zero units. And it quotes, we paid the highest cost. I am not even the same person anymore. But for the Afghans, fighting with Americans, zero unit slots were coveted because of the better pay, better training than a chance to work alongside elite U.S. operators. In later years, there were also opportunities to immigrate and resett in the United States after at least one year of service and a U.S. government recommendation. In the final days of the war in 2021, roughly 81,000 Afghan immigrants including almost 10,000 members of the zero units, alongside with many of their families, were evacuated by the CIA and resettled across the United States. Now, according to reports, many were promised

special immigrant visas for their service. Visas meant for Afghan and Iraqi nationals who worked directly for the U.S. government. They're also close to 4,500 living in the United States who are still waiting for secure legal statuses because of paperwork delays from the federal government. While the war in Afghanistan has been forgotten by most Americans, Andar's story offers a rare glimpse through the eyes of Afghan who believed in the promises made by Americans to bring freedom and opportunity to his country. Unlike his American counterparts, who fought the war in three months to one-year deployments, Andar was in harm's way every day for 15 or so years that he volunteered to fight the Taliban. Now 37 years old, he has a new country and mission to help his

fellow veterans acclimate to a foreign land as he mourns the loss of his homeland. No one just joined the zero units. Soldiers had to be recommended by a close family member or friend who vouched for their loyalty and are initially served in 2007 with special forces before joining zero units in 2012 after his brother referred him. Unlike other Afghan units infiltrated by the Taliban, zero units never suffered an insider attack. When Afghan soldiers were radicalized, turned against U.S. advisors, which former CIA officers say was byproduct of a strict vetting program.

Zero units were like a scalpel pursuing terrorists targeting at the highest level. They mainly operated at night. Their war was a series of high-stakes raids against targets making car and suicide bombs and terrorist leaders with bodyguards. When the zero units went out, they had a better chance than their counterparts to get into a fight, which left them wounded or killed. And he says, we were fighting for freedom, Andar says. We were fighting for our land, for our flag, for our dead.

dignity. We were fighting for our rights and for our humanity. We didn't want our soul to be used to hurt anyone else. We wanted Afghanistan to stand on the same level as other countries, to be respected, to be trusted. We wanted Afghans to walk through the world with the same kind of pride and recognition as everyone else. Despite high praise from both U.S. Special Operations and CIA case officers, the zero unit operations were surrounded by significant controversy. Media reports and human rights groups documented the unit's tactics, particularly in the coast and Nagahar provinces including allegations of war crimes. In 2018, New York Times published a report focused on the devastating impact of these forces on civilian populations. While the zero-unit-spot

militant groups such as the Haqani Network and ISIS, their tactics raised serious concerns about human rights abuses. Civilians reported brutal attacks, torture, killings, and property destruction. Many of the abuses, such as night raids and executions, were attributed to the loser rules of engagement and operational secrecy. that characterized the missions. Human Rights Watch documented several abuses between 17 and 19, including targeted raids that killed civilians, such as the shooting of innocent family members during nighttime operations.

In 2020's story, the intercept called the Zero Units, 01 in particular, death squads. The unit raids resulted in the death of at least 51 civilians, including women and children, according to the report. In 2022, ProPublica published a story that the Zero Units operations led to hundreds of Afghanistan's civilian deaths. The raids were frequently carried out in remote villages where many innocent civilians were caught in the crossfire. Critics argue that the zero units operations far from helping to neutralize terrorist threats, often made enemies out of ordinary Afghan families.

And moreover, critics say the Afghan government either lack capacity or political will to investigate, and the U.S. military largely ignored the issue because the zero units worked for the CIA. Now, this story can go on. And the thing I want to just point out for a second here, and we get to, you know, if you want to talk about like, conspiracy, right? Let's talk about conspiracy for a minute because the one thing that we have talked about so much on this podcast, especially during the Biden-Harris administration, obviously when the border was wide open. And we had talked about just the possibility of the amount of people that hated the United States of America that could obviously come right across the border and enter the

country illegally and risk harm to our country. That is what we talked about for four years. but then come to find out that the Biden administration, because of Operation Allies are welcome, brought in like 80,000 of these people during 2021 to 2023. Now, this was during the Biden and Harris administration. So not only did you have a wide open border with any and everyone that could have possibly came in, but you literally brought in 80,000 zero unit operators. And we're talking about the most ruthless, of the most ruthless Afghan nationals that were special operators that even if you ask many service members that said, do you trust the Afghan army or do you trust the people that you trained or worked alongside? Most of them would tell you absolutely not.

I mean, yeah, we trained them, but, you know, there were people that have told us in the military that said because of a lot of that is the reason why today I still don't trust anybody that I know personally. Because you can get close to a lot of these people, especially if you work alongside them, you train them. But then also knowing that a lot of these people turned on our military in many cases. So then what Biden Harris is going to bring in the most ruthless of the ruthless that the CIA trained to go out and kill supposedly just ISIS members or terrorist leaders. But we also know that they killed many civilians. And we don't actually know how many they killed. But these are people that do not have in most cases the same. same values or morals or just structure of life as Americans do.

They, you know, not to get too much into, you know, the Muslim thing, but yeah, they are Muslims. They, you know, when you talk about religion, religion in most cases in that area is the number one most important factor of their lives and their relationships and everything else. And in, in most cases, a lot of the Afghan nationals are especially the Afghan nationals that are in the Afghani army, you know, they are fighting for Allah, more so than in some cases they're fighting for their country. And when you think about this, a lot of the ISIS members and even Taliban, a lot of them came from the Afghan army. I mean, it's kind of like the way you would find any terrorist group. Think about how many, you know, military members come from different countries

and then go out and create paramilitary groups, you know, because they are trained. They are the extremist. That's what happened with ISIS. That's what happened with Taliban. I mean, for God's sake, the CIA essentially created ISIS. And then the CIA also created the zero units, which we then brought all of them into the United States. And then now that Trump is in office, I just find it interesting. You had all these Democrats start coming out, which they're calling the seditious six now. And they're all doing these viral videos where they're coming out and saying, hey, military, you don't have to obey Trump's orders if they're illegal orders.

Now, I understand illegal orders. but it seems like what they're trying to do is start a coup. But then think about, as we've also talked about, Sherry, I'm sorry, this is long-winded. I had to read the article and I had to kind of get up my point here. But then think about how we've talked about the CIA being a large part of the deep state, right? We know that Trump and whoever, just because you have John Ratcliffe as a CIA director or anybody that might be on your side of any given time as a director, do you really know what's going on in the CIA itself? You don't. I think that in large part, the CIA themselves are the deep state.

And I think that they operate for and on behalf of some type of globalist operation. We don't exactly know what it is. But I just think that now if you think the CIA is the deep state or has these connections to where they're really the ones controlling the government and calling the shots, now they have their own army inside the United States, potentially 80,000 strong of Afghan zero unit. death squad members. And an army with no rules. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I mean, but think about it. Could they activate these people inside of the United States?

And this is just one instance. And I'm not even saying to all of those people in this Afghan army are, or sorry, in the zero unit group are terrorists or extremist. But I don't think people realize how brutal the zero unit group was. Yeah. And it kind of reminds me of this movie. And I don't know if you're going to remember the title because I don't remember it, but it was a movie where this guy was in the military and he was in Afghanistan and he had

a translator and that translator went through like a lot of shit with them and they both got wounded. He was never allowed to have weapons or anything like that. He was just simply there to be the translator and that was it. You know, they didn't trust him to have weapons. He was just there to do his job and they had to protect him. Yeah. So they both end up getting injured and basically long-strand. story short, they both saved each other's lives.

And the American military guy gets out. And this was a true story. Yeah, I remember that. And he vowed he was going to go and get that translator and bring him back to America. And he went through hell in high water to even get him back. Yeah. Now, I'm not saying this guy is the same guy as the zero unit. I think the zero unit is a more brutal unit that was actually trained to kill.

Yeah, that they were there to kill. Yeah. But I'm saying some of the people from Afghanistan were there to do delicate jobs like translating. But I think in this unit, this was a brutal unit. And, you know, they say that they vetted all these people that came in. Did they vet them or did they just let them in? Obviously, the CIA worked with them closely. They trained them.

So. Yeah, but think about this too, Sherry. Like, you know, if you say allied, you know, allies are welcome, operation allies are welcome. and you know that you brought in this many zero, you know, it was it was either $40,000 or $8,000, whatever I just read there. But say it was even $40,000. You're bringing $40,000, zero units into America. And you as CIA realize how you train these people.

You realize how brutal and the shit they did in Afghanistan. Yes. And you're going to bring these people in. I mean, I understand that like, hey, we use them to help us, especially with our operations in Afghanistan and all that. And we promised them freedom in America. Yeah, but like how dangerous is that really? though. I mean, and although yes, this is only one case right now, but it did cost the lives or one life so far.

And hopefully Andrew Wolf pulls through. I know he's in very critical condition right now. But it did cost the life of one National Guard soldier that was just trying to do her job in Washington, D.C. And were. Were they even armed? Yeah. I think some of them were. I think they had sidearms. I think maybe all of them were. I think they did at least have handguns. But either way, you know, you have 40,000 of these people in the United States and if they were controlled by the CIA then who's to say that maybe they're not controlled by the CIA now now I did just want to play a quick clip from Fox News where they actually talk about this so this is not a conspiracy theory the zero unit stuff is not any of that they're even talking about it now on Fox News CNN and the rest of the mainstream media and I think

I think the reason why they're having to is because something they thought something was going to get out now we'll talk about the false flag thing in just a bit but let's first talk about this. Let's play this clip real quick. Here you go. You know, he was part of this CIA-backed elite Afghan unit. And this right now shows some details where they operated in Afghanistan, but also the vetting process. Supposedly, they went through biometric screenings, in-person interviews, which is very interesting. And Lock and Wall's connection here, he was assigned to this O3 unit, recruited and trained by the CIA to fight. against the Taliban, known that this group, also, Rebecca, known for their brutality and called

death squads. So you take that last point there that I just said, right, that they're known as these death squads, quite brutal, and that this man also went through a one-on-one interviews so we understand. What's your takeaway there? Could something have been missed in that process? Well, it's very disturbing, and this is such a tragedy. We're going to to learn more. But I'm reminded that in 2011, an Afghan Air Force colonel walked into an office at North Kabul Airport and blew up eight U.S. Air Force service members and a contractor. That was an ally. The risks here are just very, very large. And that's why I'm really glad the president is going to go and look at other cases. And we must keep an eye on this radicalization of Islam and this threat that, frankly, now, is

inside our borders. You know, there's been reporting that those who knew the suspect when he was younger say that he had mental health issues because of what he witnessed in Afghanistan. So you got to wonder, without painting all of the people who are here from Afghanistan with one brush, whether or not there are others, though, who could possibly be suffering the same type of issues. Yeah, I mean, our own veterans have PTSD. Yeah. And then take these guys, the zero units that were trained by CIA. Yes, they were brought over to the United States. But you also have to remember that, and I'm not saying that all Afghans are bad because

I don't think they are. And I think anybody that's listening to this podcast knows I don't think all of anybody is bad. But what I am saying is at the very least is that we do absolutely have very distinctive religious views and beliefs of the people in Afghanistan. I mean, they are Muslim. We are, well, some of us in the United States are Christian, not all. Like even with UK, you know, UK is.

40% Christian, I believe they say. And then there's 40% like non-religious. Yeah. And so in the United States also it's starting to become that divide between Christians versus non-religious. But now, you know, the more and more people that kind of come in

to the United States of America that are like a very distinct religion like Muslim or whatever it is, to where the Muslim religion do, and especially if we talk to U.S. service members, you know, their religion came first over anything, over loyalty, over The fact that you train them.

Yeah, very stern religion. You know, just because you became friends with some of these guys, you still could never trust them there. Because it's just a different, it's a whole different culture. It's a different world. It's a different everything. And you've got to imagine, too, these guys are in it for a lifetime. This guy started at 15 years old and it never stops for him. Our military servicemen, they go over for maybe six months to a year and then they're taken out of there.

Like the Marines are usually seven months. I think Army's like a year. These guys are here for the whole lifetime. He's been there since he was 15 years old fighting these wars. Yeah. And you got to remember what that does to your mental state. Well, he's, I mean, you know, there was a lot of people that said that they believe, you know, especially other zero unit members that, you know, media or whoever has talked to investigative journalists, a lot of them feel soulless. They have no soul.

And you almost have to kind of sell your soul. And when I say to the devil, but it's like the CIA. And in some cases, you know, the devil and CIA kind of work hand in hand in some of these situations. And especially when you're in in situations where you're killing innocent civilians. And this happened very often. You know, and it's just like I've talked to U.S. service members that worked alongside Blackwater to where they would go through streets and kill innocent people just for a laugh because it was cool, which is why Blackwater changed our name. They never really went away. They changed her name to X, I believe it was.

after everybody kind of found out about all the heinous shit Blackwater was doing. Yeah, they just changed their name and their LLC or whatever so they could get away with it some more. Yeah, but then I think eventually they went away, but it doesn't matter. The United States military and other militaries and governments around the world are always going to use these mercenaries because then if they use mercenaries, they can get away with a lot of shit than the military can't. And I agree with you as far as like the CIA using them on our benefit, but you also have to think about where they're a lot of. allegiance are. You know, their country as in Afghanistan and his allegiance is probably to Afghanistan over the United States. Yeah. And that concerns me a lot because that brings in conspiracy theories that go through my mind is, did somebody get to him over there? Other terrorist groups,

other militia groups over there that are saying, if you don't do this, we're going to kill your family or, you know, all kinds of crazy things could happen. Yeah, they could be blackmailed. because, you know, we don't even know where this guy's family is living. We do know that at least his brother, I guess, is here in the United States. And he was one of the main leaders in this zero unit. And so his brothers in San Diego, this guy was also a leader in some capacity in the zero unit. But, you know, keeping in mind, as we've already said before, there's between 40 and 80,000 of these zero unit members inside of the United States.

And we're talking about brutal killers. We're talking about brutal killers that were potentially killing hundreds, if not thousands of people in Afghanistan. And now you have these people inside of the United States in a very different culture with a government and military that has done a lot of shit in Afghanistan and Iraq that has made a lot of people in the Middle East hate America. I mean, there's reasons why the death to America chants are, they're paraded through the streets in these places.

And so can you trust these people, especially the zero units that are inside of the United States? Trump needs to do something about this. And obviously, as the story talked about, although yes, Operation Allies are welcome. was, I guess, done and brought over during the Biden administration. I guess some of the visas have been actually approved under the Trump administration, whether or not that is an oversight. Trump didn't see it. Who knows?

But obviously, Trump needs to be going back and looking into that. So I did also want to talk about this, too. Yeah, so Seth Harp wrote the book called the Fort Bragg Cartel, which if we would have had more time, we would have tried to get him on the show. But, you know, he had actually posted. And he said, not trying to promote my book off the horrible shooter in D.C., but I did write a lot about the criminal client state the U.S. created in Afghanistan, which was the drug-addicted Afghan killers on the CIA's payroll and how it's beginning to blow back on us in the form of statewide violence.

What he is saying here is that these zero units were essentially cartel members. You know, if you think about the Mexican drug cartels, well, the zero units and what the CIA created in Afghanistan was probably the biggest drug cartel in known history ever to, exist. I mean, we're talking about much bigger than anything you see in Mexico. Not only that, but they were CIA and special forces trained. They were running heroin for the CIA. And they were ruthless. And many of them also were drug addicted. And I was surprised when we were talking to some service men about that. They said that was the biggest industry in Afghanistan. It was the heroin industry. And they had some marijuana too. But what the troops would do over there was give them seeds to like grow corn or different crops to try to get them away from the heroin industry.

Yeah. And then, you know, he had also talked about Seth Hart earlier this year, Jamal Wally, another Afghan mercenary brought to the U.S. after Kabul fell, shot a cop in Virginia. There's a video actually out there online and it says traffic stop leads to fatal police involved shooting. This was when another zero unit member shot a police officer point blank. But as the police officer was coming up to his vehicle, He was seeing all these things like,

uh, white people. I'm so sick of these damn white people and all this stuff. He's like, you're about to find out basically today or whatever. And he was obviously Afghani. But he, the guy pulled a gun,

shot the cop point blank. And this is what we're going to experience. But the, I think the scarier thing here, in my opinion is, is that are we going to see an organized movement by this group? And not just an organized movement on their own behalf. I'm talking about could and would the CIA use these guys.

for death and destruction inside the United States, because we've seen it before. You know, you talk about the false flag thing. We do know, at the very least, that the shooter's name was looked up in research prior to the attack. So there was a spike in searches of this person's name

in the hours before the attack. And that means that people who knew that this was going to happen were searching to see if this had been completed. Was this task completed? A known CIA asset who was a trained member of this unit was searched prior to the attack. This name was searched. Now, there is also some stuff out there about, you know, the Sarah Bextram service member

that actually died. There is also a report. There's literally like one of the number one trending videos on X right now is that if you look up and I'll just read it to you right now, if you look up National Guard and then you look up CIA or just National Guard in general. one of the first posts that come up on X, and it's literally got over three and a half or four million views, it says she was Googled in Israel before the shooting.

The name of Sarah Bextram, the National Guard member murdered by Afghan CIA assets in D.C. was Googled by someone in Israel days before the shooting. Now, is this true or not? Well, I don't know. I looked it up on Grock. I had seen all this stuff. There allegedly was one or two searches,

maybe in Israel before this happened. There was also some other searches in other Middle East countries. So I'm not saying this is Israel. I'm literally just saying that this is, this post has almost four million views. Now, there is officially a community note on here now. And so what the community note says is Google trends, is it fully reliable for exact data, real time data or absolute accuracy? It has been proven that the same early search data appeared in results of countless

countries from Albania to Aruba, making the claim completely irrelevant. So I did want to point that out. And the reason I want to point that, I want to always want, always want to be fair. Obviously, there is no evidence whatsoever. This guy was at all tied in any way, shape, or form to Mossad or to Israel. And so I wanted to make that very clear because the number one post, or one of the number one post, when you look up National Guard, CIA, or any of this stuff, is trying to tie this shooting to Israel. And do I believe that's the case? No, I do not as of right now. I don't think this is reliable, although I did go pretty much deep in detail with Grock to try to see,

is this reliable or is this not? Grock at first. tried to tell me, I said, well, is what Google Trends is saying here? Is this true? And it says no. And then, but then towards the end, it said, well, there's nearly no searches before the shooting of her name. Well, too. Nearly. I mean, she could have been pen pals with somebody in Israel or something. You don't know. I don't know. Maybe. But, but even, even still. But then the other, the other search Google trend, I guess thing was also the lookup of the shooter within a the Washington DC area. Now, this is more prominent than obviously the Israel thing. There was multiple searches, allegedly, according to Google trends, a day or two prior to the shooting

of the shooter within Washington, D.C. And so that leads you to the question is like, why would someone be searching this exact person in Washington, D.C.? Unless they kind of had been following this guy. Maybe they saw communications about he was going to do this, or maybe he was traveling to Washington, D.C. And so maybe they had searched him things to see a C. and so maybe they had searched him things to see if there was any record of this, if there was anything. Maybe, maybe did he complete the attack yet? I don't know. It's just weird.

Now, obviously, you also had the, what they're calling the seditious six, right? And you're having these Democrats that have come out in unison and they have said, look, you know, for military members don't follow Trump's orders. A lot of people are saying, hey, this is going to be a coup attempt. And this is what Alex Jones had to say, I'm going to play Alex Jones because, you know, I don't always agree with Alex. says sometimes he becomes a little hyperbolic about some of the conspiracies or whatever, but he does have close connections.

General Flynn, in particular, he's talking about in this quick video, which I'm going to play and we'll break it down in just a second. Here you go. Two weeks ago on my syndicated broadcast, General Flynn, the former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, predicted that in the coming months or even weeks, the deep state CIA elements ally of the Democratic Party. with communist China, Venezuela, and others would begin triggering sleeper cells inside the United States, particularly Islamic. I'll post the interview below.

He was on my broadcast yesterday and pointed out that all the evidence is clear. We've also had whistleblowers that have talked to Jesse Waters and others at Fox from inside the CIA, that this whole program with the seditious sick, and the script they admit they were given, Brennan's the handler, former head of the CIA from my analysis, this whole operation they've been running of saying, implying Trump's putting out illegal orders, is ahead of major events to destabilize the United States with different paramilitary forces. And then when Trump tries to call to military, the corporate media would already pre-planted

the idea that his orders are illegal. This is sedition. This is the prep phase for a military. violent coup and I've been predicting it along with General Flynn as well. This is a very, very serious time right now. And now we know, as you see below, this has been released by CIA Director Ratcliffe. Laura Logan has posted the information and she's got incredible intel connections. I'll just leave it at that.

That this guy was part of a CIA strike force and that's what his ID says. in Afghanistan. And of course, her husband's been deployed over there for forever and was a leading commander. And there's also a very good source of information on that front. So this is a major message to Trump. This is a probe. This was just literally hundreds of feet away from the fence at the White House. And there's going to be more of this.

So people better get ready. It's very, very, very, very, very serious. Of course, Biden brought hundreds of thousands of these people into the country. and they need to be deported. The media is trying to spin it now because the Trump administration approved one level of his asylum last year. But that's just because that's part of the larger process that Biden set up. And now those policies need to be reversed and they need to go in and kick out all of these paramilitary Afghans, even if they, quote, work for the CIA.

But this guy clearly is working for these very elements. remember John Brennan is a Muslim and a communist. He brags about it. People always are blown away by that. I mean, look about people. He brags about it in Arabic. And they're working with these different terror networks. And they use them as a covert army.

And they're guaranteeing up the drug cartels and others to re-cavick in the station. General Flynn didn't just predict that. He has sources that give him the chatter. And the information is being picked up. And I'm getting that for other law enforcement, and sources as well. So I'm very, very sad for the two National Guard soldiers that were shot. The governor, West Virginia, came out where they were deployed from and said they were dead. And now there's conflicting reports, but we'll just continue to watch this as it unfold.

But everybody has put their head on a swivel. And we don't need to give it to this intimidation. The left wants the troops off the streets because they want the crown to be high. They want to be able to launch their civil war and bill it as George Floyd 2.0, a heavy race base. But the dog isn't going to hunt because we've been ahead of the curve, been exposed to plans before they do it. All right, there's Alex Jones. Some of the things that I want to, I guess, touch on with what Alex is saying, and this is just my opinion on this, but we as America, we have a rogue group, I believe, in this

government. I think that we've had it for a long time. I think that, you know, I'm not necessarily saying that the heads, you know, under the Trump administration are actively participatory. participating or involved in seditious or whatever type activities that we're referring to here. But when you think about the, and I got to touch on this just for a second because we got to think this all the way through, when even you think about the Epstein files, for example, to where we thought for sure that we were going to get the Epstein files or we're going to have transparency,

we didn't get that. And the one thing that I wish the Trump administration would have done during this process to ensure my security and my peace of mind with who we have an office right now as a fighting force against this deep state militia, which we have inside of America right now. And we're talking about, I'm not just talking about, you know, globalist, Klaus Schwab, these old dudes. I'm literally talking about operatives. I'm talking about CIA operatives that are within the CIA, our most advanced intelligence

agencies, maybe DARPA, maybe other dark military. forces that are in our government that have been commanded and are commanded by generals that are against Trump or against America. You know, how many of these generals, for example, that the Biden and Harris administration, which was a puppet administration, keeping in mind, you had President Joe Biden, which was senile the entire presidency. He, everything that he did was through an auto pin. He had no comprehension of what the hell he was.

was doing as president of the United States. Kamala Harris certainly did not. Like what was set up during that four years leading up to Trump's administration? Like what was set up in the background of this? How much organization happened and was planned behind the scenes? How much CIA and FBI and whoever else? How much were they involved in not only taking the people that we trained as death squads in Afghanistan to go after the most ruthless of terror members in Afghanistan and Iraq and all these other countries like Syria and Iran and you name it. But we literally brought all of those people, which are the most ruthless killers, the zero

units that went after the most ruthless people in the Middle East, the people that literally cut off Americans heads. They shout Allah Akbar before they blow themselves up right in front of our service members. I know service members that have suffered the rest of their lives after their war in Afghanistan because of these people. But we, the CIA and the U.S. government trained zero units that were to be more ruthless than even the most ruthless in the Middle East. So what did we do with those people?

Well, we brought them to the United States. The CIA and the Biden administration brought them over. They said, hey, guys, come on over. 40, 80,000 of you, we can use you. We can use you. Do you really think, I mean, let's just think about this. do we really think the CIA and Biden and Harris and the U.S. government really cared so much about these people that we used in the Middle East that we wanted to just bring them to the United States because of their loyalty and how good of people they really were? Do you really think that's the reason why the CIA and the U.S. government brought those people to the United States?

Do you think it was just like, oh, Operation Allies are welcome. Let's just bring all these good people in. They're very good people. I mean, all they did was just kill innocent people and just all the most ruthless people in the Middle East. Let's bring them over here because we know they love America. Like, we know they love America, although, you know, we see death to America be enchanted in their streets and we have for years over there. And, you know, you can ask also many service members, like, did they agree with everything that happened in Afghanistan and Iraq? No.

A lot of service members didn't agree with everything that happened in the Middle East while they were there. But it doesn't change the fact that we literally literally. brought in the most ruthless killers that the CIA trained into America. And most of those people obviously are from Afghanistan. They are from the country that we destroyed. In many cases, probably our military, our government killed their family members. And if we didn't kill them, ISIS killed him because of we were there. So do you think that all these people we brought in love America?

Do you think they're just are here like, oh, my, do you think they're flying the American flag? No, I don't. And that's why I don't 100% believe that they're still on the side of the CIA. I almost feel like their loyalties could change. You know, it's just like when we're talking to service members, they said they didn't trust anyone over there. And they certainly didn't trust them. And then when they trained them to be hired killers, basically, they could turn around and kill them. Yeah.

So if they could turn around and kill them, the people that trained them had to survive, why would they not come to America and kill us? not because of the CIA, but because of their allegiance to their countries. Well, it's the same situation, I believe, as 9-11. And I'm not going to get too much into 9-11. We actually have someone from architects and engineers that's going to come on our podcast very soon when we finally do our extensive 9-11 episode. But, you know, it's not like the CIA and the freaking government didn't know that these people really, or most people that were in the zero units didn't actually like America.

I mean, their loyalty at the very least was either to their religion or to their country. It was never to America. It was never to the U.S. military. So do you really not think the CIA, the most advanced intelligence agency in the world, knowing how ruthless these people were, how soulless they became because of what the CIA put them up to? And maybe they weren't like that in the beginning. But you also have to remember, if you're contracting or recruiting these people, training them at 15 years old, who do you become?

It's like if you train a pit bull to be a fighter when he's a year old or six months, what are they going to be? Do you think that you can then go assimilate a pit bull that has been a fighter that hates dogs? All of a sudden, you're going to assimilate them with other dogs? Right. But so what do you think the point of bringing them over here? Was it for the CIA to make operations on America and kill Americans? Or was it to provide them asylum? No, I don't think it was to provide them asylum.

I think that this was the deep state bringing in a rogue army, a rogue military unit that they could utilize for their benefits, for their political gain, and for their takeover of America. That's what I think. I mean, I really do. And I hate to say that because, like, but we also understand the CIA has been involved in so much corruption. I mean, if we think about the CIA was involved in JFK assassination, that was a president of

the United States. And so you're telling me that they wouldn't utilize a massive group of the most ruthless killers in the Middle East to do shit in the United States. They can use it for anything. They could use these people to kill Trump. They could use these people to kill any political opponent or adversary that they want. They could use these people to start a civil war in the United States. Because you know, you also have to think about over the past month or so, like in Dearborn, Michigan, for example, where you have Jacob Lang. Now, Jake Lang was a January 6th.

prisoner, you know, I remember probably about a year ago, we had talked with someone that was Jake Lang's family member. And I think they had reached out to us and say, hey, we would like to have Jake Ling on your podcast. We would like to tell a story about how, you know, he's been treated in prison because of January 6th, all this stuff. Well, Jake Ling got out. He has been in Dearborn, Michigan over the past couple of weeks. If you guys have saw any of the viral clips of all of the Muslims in Dearborn, because there are a lot. of, I mean, it's basically a Muslim town now. It is, yeah.

And so Jake Lane has been going to Dearborn, Michigan. He has been slapping bacon on people and throwing bacon on the Muslims as they're praying in the streets or he has been taking the Quran and burning it and doing all these things, trying his very best. It seems like anyway, to excite something with these Muslims. And he's been going to, he even went to a city council meeting in Dearborn, Michigan. and Jake Lange's speech about the Muslims was pretty horrendous actually.

I mean, you know, when you talk about America first, America first is one thing. But I still think like freedom of speech is freedom of speech. I think we should always have freedom of speech. But just because you have freedom of speech, it also opens up who you are. So however you speak about things, yes, you have the right as an American to speak,

to speak freely. But when Jake Lang went into that city council meeting, it was almost as if he wanted desperately to excite violence within that community and the Muslims and everything else. And then obviously it wasn't very long after that. You had the shooting. Will there be more shootings? Are we trying to ramp up, you know, some type of war?

People like Jake Lang, they're going to their, going to these cities and, and, and, and doing all this. Yes, it is free speech. And yes, it is, I guess, some form of protesting.

But it just seems like to me that there is some type of coordinated effort to start some type of civil war. And will the CIA activate those zero units to further that war? I don't know, but it's crazy because when we're listening

to the Tucker Carlson and the Pierce Morgan interview, they were talking a lot about that, how when you have people come in and assimilate to your country, does it change your country? It does. obviously it does. I mean, obviously it does, right? And, you know, it's the same thing as if America

moved into Iran. You know, is Iran government going to be cool with that? Is the people in Iran going to be cool with that? And in most Middle Eastern countries, no, because, you know, there is a big distinction in religion when it comes to the Muslim, you know, religion and Christianity. There is a difference. And that difference is is that, you know, it is very stern. A lot of Muslims, you know, Muslims do believe that not all Muslims, but there is a distinct group of Muslims that believe that you should because of what the Quran says, and they take it literally in some cases, that you should eliminate all non-believers. I mean, that is a reason why terrorists in Afghanistan or wherever, when they blow themselves

up and kill Americans or whoever, that they shout al-Aqbar. And yes, it is glory to God, but the reason why they shout glory to God, al-Aqbar, is because of what their belief is in the killing of non-believers. That's why that is shouted. Now, they also shout it in non-killing situations as well, right? And I get the religious beliefs side of it. And because of that, do you feel like it could be a false flag on the other side as well? Could it?

Because I think what you think is maybe where this happened because they want people to turn against Muslims again, maybe. Who knows? Well, I don't think that necessarily. I mean, I've, you know, the problem with me is that, and look, I've definitely got hate because of people that have listened to our podcast that are Republicans and they are 100% side with Israel and everything no matter what, just like they, just like people do with Trump, right? I mean, it's the same exact thing. If I criticize Trump in any way, we get hate. If I criticize Israel, we get hate. If I criticize Muslims, however, never hate.

We don't really ever get hate for that. Yes, we do. Yeah, but from Iran, maybe, but like not from Americans in most cases, unless, you know, there are some Iranian Americans that live here and they're like, hey, you know, when we've got messages from some of those are like, look, just because I'm from Iran does not mean that I, you know, support the Iranian National Guard or not Iranian Guard or support the government in Iran or what their beliefs or values are. And not all Muslims are bad and not all Muslims believe this. And I believe 100 percent, that's true. 100%, which has always been also my opinion on Israel. Okay. So let me ask you another question then. Do you think this could be a false flag that maybe Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan even have created in order to, it's almost like a reverse reverse psychology kind of thing?

Like thinking this is this group, but it's this group, but it's this group. No, I don't think so. I mean, I don't even necessarily think this is a false flag because it would have been done. differently you would not be connected to CIA I mean this stuff would not have come out so easily as it did there's a reason you got to keep this also in mind there's a reason why it came out so easily that it was CIA tied or connected oh there's a reason for this it was leaked is why yeah but it's it was leaked too easily and it was like it was almost immediate you know it's like the things they don't want you to find out about like Thomas Crook still don't know anything about him

still don't know anything uh we don't know a lot about Tyler Robinson we maybe never will. I mean, everybody just waiting on this trial and always keep saying that Tyler Robinson, the guy that killed Charlie Kirk allegedly, right. You know, everybody says, we're going to find out everything as soon as trial comes out. I'm still waiting on the trial to never happen. But. Probably so.

But either way, you know, I don't know what the actual reason behind this is. What I do know is that the Republicans are going to use this to blame the Democrats. And, you know, there could be something to that. Tim Poole actually had a video. It's a very short clip. And he was essentially saying if Donald Trump, P. Heggs, and DHA do not go after to people that are putting up these messages, this is the biggest and most impactful escalation towards a civil war we have ever seen in our entire generation. Now, that is something pretty confident to say as far as this is the biggest thing we're ever going to see from a civil war perspective. Here's what Tim Poole said.

Listen, ladies and gentlemen, let me just stress that this story that is emerging, may be one of the most horrifying that I have seen in a long time. You may be wondering what this image I have on screen is. It is part of a campaign to create factions within the military to defy Donald Trump and foment civil war or a military coup. I'm not exaggerating. To be fair, to hammer everything looks like a nail. But for what purpose have been Democrats?

calling on people to, quote, pick an effing side. That's a senator from Connecticut who said that. For what purpose have been Democrats, have Democrats been calling all of Trump's orders illegal, dictatorial, fascistic, and then calling on service men and women to defy the chain of command? This makes no sense. If it's no big deal, the National Guard were deployed to our city streets

and not doing it, but picking up trash. Why do Democrats pretend to care? Here's the story. These billboards have been popping up reportedly across the country. It says, did you go airborne just to pull security for ICE? Not what you signed up for.org. This is illegal. It is a crime.

I'm not exaggerating nor being cute. I have the law pulled up. This is an effort to foment factions within the military ranks. so that they defy the chain of command, Secretary of War or the President himself. I'm going to show you exactly where this goes. We're going to pull up this website, but I need to say this right now.

If Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth and the DOJ do not go after these people that are putting up these messages, this is the biggest, the most impactful escalation toward civil war we have ever seen in our generation. The fact that there are nonprofits being funded with billboard campaigns instructing our men in a uniform to defy the chain of command. And I'm not going to be cute with you guys. We know the intention.

They're not explicitly saying, hey, don't do it, but you don't get to play this wink, wink, nudge, nudge. Here's the billboard. You can see it. All right, so that was Tim Poole, and he was specifically talking about the billboards that we're seeing all across the country. It says, you saw the billboard, you have questions, you're not along. And this is on not what you signed up for.org. And it says, but first, here are proactive steps you can take to reduce risk.

And it says it says, be sure to access resources from a personal device, not a military or government computer email account phone or Wi-Fi network. Use an encrypted proton mail email account. use the signal app for encrypted text and calls and use a virtual private network or VPN like NordVPN. Support resources for service members about face is an organization of service members and veterans that connect service members who have legal or moral questions about their mission with peer counseling, legal support, and other resources. You also have a GI rights hotline they have set up. And then you have the National Lawyers Guild, Military Law Task Force. If you click the About Face, which is aboutfaceveterans.org, you have a website that leads to where it says veterans taking actions against militarism and endless wars. It says, we are post-9-11 military members and veterans organizing to end a foreign policy of permanent war and the use of military weapons tactics and values and communities across the country.

As people intimately familiar with the inner workings of the world's largest military, we use our knowledge and experiences to expose the truth about these conflicts overseas and the growing militarization inside of the United States. States. And this says National Guard and active military. If you are a National Guardsman or a active duty member and you're concerned about the moral ethical or legal implications of your situation, you're not alone. It says use the encrypted form below to request support, exploring your options. So it has a military support request form. It also has a join the movement to stop the cycle of endless wars. It has a subscribe. They want all of your information. They want essentially to talk to you. They want to tell you about your option. whatever those options may be, whether that is to try to set up some type of coup,

but maybe that's all hyperbolic. Maybe what the Republicans are saying are wrong and the Democrats are saying are right. We don't know. The problem with this is is that what the Democrats are trying to say here is that, look, we can't have militarization in our streets. And we don't want a, you know, obviously a martial law. We don't want the military that is going to be our police. police force and where any faction of government are going to use excuses based on crime for

militarization. Because listen, the Constitution specifically talks about that. They protect us from that because we do not want military becoming our police force. That is what happens in China. That's what happens in a lot of dictatorship type states. But, you know, is Trump right and has he been right for what he's done with the National Guard in D.C.? I think that if you have a, if you have a D.C. that is crime-ridden, especially the nation's capital and you are the sitting president of the United States.

I think it's probably good that you bring in National Guard if your police forces are not going to obey the orders of the president and they're not. And a lot of these police forces are led by the people that were put in place by Democrats that want high crime versus, you know, safer streets. So as president, you have to do something. What is that something? Not sure. But they're either putting in, they're either trying to start a coup within the military.

my question has always also been like how many of these generals and these high commanders in the military are still in place after the Biden-Henters administration left. Now, one thing I've not heard a lot about, especially since Trump has taken office, is that Trump has fired a lot of generals or a lot of people that are in high command in the military. I've not really heard a lot about that. So how many of those people are still left? You know, we know like General Millie and kind of their power and influence, especially after January 6th and especially during. in the Trump trials and that committee that was set up about January 6th that was trying to essentially you know burn Trump and the Republicans at the stake you know they would bring in their military generals to talk about this right and so I know that probably some of those generals are

gone but there are also many generals that are likely in control not necessarily about the Trump presence anymore but whoever that deep state faction is how many of those high leaders and military actually controlled by a deep state authority rather than the president and this administration. We don't know. And I almost guarantee you that Trump and his allies do not know as well. But I did want to play this quick clip for everybody saying like what did the Democrats say?

The seditious six as they were calling them. Well, they had went on, you know, this kind of campaign on mainstream media talking about how, you know, we got to fight back and you got to not obey illegal orders by president. President Trump. And if you think you are a bit, you know, if you think there are illegal orders, then you need to fight back against us. And so this is just a little bit of some of that we've been seen on mainstream media lately. I'll go ahead and play this clip. Here you go. A lot of people got upset about the video. And let me just say, they are trying to wield fear. These videos coming out of places like Chicago, it makes me incredibly nervous that we're about

to see people in law enforcement, people in uniform military get nervous. And then, get stressed, shoot at American civilians. It is a very, very, very stressful situation for these law enforcement and for the communities on the ground. So it was basically a warning. They are trying to wield fear. I don't, I mean, look, if you're going back to Nuremberg, right? This is about who we are as Americans and how we're going to engage with people who we disagree with. They don't want to be talking about the deployment of the military in our streets, the deployment of federal law enforcement in our streets. We're about to see people in law enforcement, people in uniform military get nervous, get stressed, shoot at American civilians.

They don't want to have that public conversation because they know it goes to the heart of who we are as Americans, as a democracy. Senator Alyssa Slotkin, former CIA officer. I want to speak directly to members of the military and the intelligence community can refuse illegal orders. But whether you're serving in the CIA and know that we have your back. Need you to stand up for our laws. Don't give up the ship. Yeah, so there is some of what the seditious says. said. And then you also have this post that says, is it legal for the CIA to have an active agent, Alyssa Slokkin, performed CIA operations inside the United States to promote a civil war?

This video was done a few days ago before she gave orders to her Afghan asset to assassinate our National Guard. Now, that is obviously a post on X. We do not know at all whether she gave orders to anyone, but she was CIA. And she was one. of the ones that has been leading the charge saying, all military, all active duty military, you don't have to obey Trump's orders. She specifically said illegal orders, but whatever. Let's listen to this post as well. CIA officer, the idea that intelligence officers could be asked to target Americans turns

by stomach. And it would shift us into a modern day surveillance state. Turning the federal government against Trump's enemies goes hand in hand with his use of force in American cities, both federal law enforcement and the military. As of today, the president has attempted to deploy more than 7,000 National Guard members across five cities, including right here in Washington. In August, the administration ordered the creation of two new National Guard units, a standing quick reaction force that can deploy anywhere in the country, and then separately, national guard units in all 50 states focused on quelling so-called civil disturbances.

At this point, Trump has been very clear about his intent. Aquano, speaking as commander-in-chief, he instructed his military brass to use cities as, quote, training grounds. And many times, he's floated the idea of invoking the Insurrection Act so that military units can raid, detain, and arrest Americans. The president has already deployed ICE and other federal law enforcement to these same cities across America. In some cases, these federal officers are playing fast. and loose with their tactics, which sooner or later could lead to a deadly escalation.

The videos out of Chicago are shocking, federal agents pulling their weapons on highways, firing tear gas into neighborhoods right before a Halloween parade, injuring and even killing civilians. Many are masked, not wearing uniforms and driving unmarked cars. For those of us who served abroad, it feels like another country. And it's only a matter of time before things get worse. By my estimation, we're about two weeks away from a bloody incident that spirals out of control. And this is just the kind of incident that Trump wants to justify more force coming in. There you go. And so that is supposedly ex-CIA girl.

What is her name? Alyssa Slockkin. And she had literally just said this a few days before this Afghan killed or shot, sorry, shot two of our National Guardsmen. a killing one and she said in this post or in this video she said we could be just a few days away from a bloody something happening because of Trump's deployment of National Guard in our streets. Yeah. And I was just thinking about like in my mind if Democrats were in office right now and they

were controlling our government basically like the Republicans are, what I feel the same way that I do today? Because right now I feel like we need the National Guard. to cut down on the crime. We're not necessarily going off after innocent civilians that are Americans. We're going after the people that commit crimes and make it not safe to go on our streets. But if their tables were turned and the Democrats were doing that, would I feel the same way? Absolutely not.

Now, you would think they were taken over our cities. I would feel. I probably feel the same way. With the military. Yeah. But, I mean, this coming from a C. I mean, we're not going to believe anything. She says, obviously.

But either way, it is kind of weird that a few days before this, she's talking about, you know, it's going to be just days away from a bloody something in our streets. And then this Afghan guy shoots two National Guards. But that's why. That's why I say, though, that's why I say, is the CIA going to use these zero units in our streets? Yeah, it's crazy. To go against military and really create some type of ramp up of either a country.

coup, a civil war, or something else. And my question keeps going back to, if this guy was a trained killer, why just take out two people? Yeah. Why not go for like a ton of people? Well, unless he was, you know, unless he was, I guess you can say, um, out there on a CIA mission to where he didn't want to hurt a lot of national guard. And you were specifically going to go out there and make a point rather than try to kill a lot

of people in our, you know, National Guard or military. I don't know. He was definitely going to kill because he shot the girl in the head. Yeah. So, I mean, he was definitely going to kill. Yeah, but also at the same time, this guy was, this guy was a part of a zero unit. He was a part of this group that was ruthless and they were heavily and highly trained by special forces in CIA.

And yet he went and shot two people. You know what I mean? It just seems weird. Yeah, he does. Especially considering that if you were in Afghanistan and you were going after these terrorists, you were going to go kill as many people as possible, as fast as possible. And you'd probably be the best at it because you've done this over and over and over again since you were 15 years old. And it just doesn't make a lot of sense because I would think that this guy would have been more strapped, been more heavily armed and would have taken out a shit ton of people.

Someone like this is not just going to critically injure one and kill one. This guy has the potential of taking out an entire block of people if he really wanted to. Yeah. So is this like a simple? or is this something that's telling us something? Like, we're only just taking two of your people out right now, but we can take out a lot more. Yeah. Well, here's what I said the other day.

You know, we were down at the beach and we were talking to someone that, you know, we don't really know. We just met him. And, you know, he was asking me about Trump. And, you know, we were talking about our podcast. And, you know, so he had some questions. And I have no idea whether this guy was pro Trump or not pro Trump. he had asked me specifically about the ICE question. Like, isn't it crazy that we're seeing, you know, federal officers in our streets,

taking people off the streets and putting them in vehicles and all this stuff? And for me, I didn't really get into that conversation because, you know, I do think that if you are illegal here, you've come across our border. We don't know who you are, especially if our ICE members are actually going after criminals. I think that you've got to do that. You've got to deport them. I think we have to do that.

We've preached about that, especially during the Biden-Harris administration. So I wasn't going to get in that conversation with him. but what I did say, and this is my view. And if we want to try to figure out what's really going on, this is just my opinion. And I could be wrong, but we've been doing this for a while. I think that the way the political parties are set up right now and the power structure that we see, whether it's the deep state and the political parties and all the people that are funding these political parties from outside sources, whether it's Israel, whether it's the World Economic Forum, whether it's Claus Schwab or or. or whatever other donors that are funding all of our political candidates and elected officials, whoever that may be.

You know, their mission and goal is number one. It's not really about America anymore. It's about their special interest, whatever that is, whether it's foreign or domestic, whether it is big tech or whether it's military or whether it's a foreign nationalist group that we're allies with or whatever the case. It seems like nothing is about America anymore. we don't really have a lot of American donors that are heavily influenced in our politics anymore. We have everything outside of that, whether it's big business, big pharma, big military,

big everything else outside of big America. We don't have big American donors that are truly wanting the best for America. We have everything outside of that. The question is going to be is that who will become the dictator in America? Because this is what I think. I think with the way the political party is set up right now, I don't see that not happening at this point. You know, the most successful experiment at democracy is the United States so far.

I think one of the most successful countries that have ever done it is America. And usually I think 250 years is about the top of the line as far as the success of a democracy. And we're at 250 years right now. How far will this go? And I don't think it's going to go too much further. I think that because of the power. struggle with the political parties and the deep state and the power that is hidden in the shadows that really controls everything versus what the people want.

I think it's a matter of time before whatever political party is the most influenced by the deep state that is going to carry out their agenda and their role going forward are going to become the king of America or going to become the dictator of America. Will that be Trump or will that be a Democrat? Will it be? We don't know. but it's going to be one of the two because one of the two parties is going to figure out a way to circumvent the elections.

They're going to cheat. They're going to do whatever the hell it is, whether they influence the military so much to where the next election comes and they say, well, do something about it. We're not getting out of office because you guys are going to destroy our country. You are going to take down our country. And so therefore, we're not going to allow you to ever hold office again in America. and that will be the new dictatorship, the dictatorship of America. It will be heavily utilized by AI.

It'll be backed by big tech and all of the billions of dollars is coming in that are back in whatever party that is that becomes dictator. It's going to happen. Yeah. And we have a political threat of civil war constantly, no matter which party is in favor. Like it's in office. If it's Democrat or Republican, you know, the opposite party is threatening civil war. constantly and would that be a would that happen uh well i i mean i don't even i don't think it'll come down to a civil war i think they don't have to you know they don't have to have a civil war eventually

one of the parties is going to figure it out and they know that like right now the trump administration knows and and the republicans know that we either somehow hold on the power as republicans or the democrats because i think both sides are pretty clear now that that you know there's going to be cheating. It's going to be conducted in a very, a very easy method of how they're going to circumvent elections. I think that actually happened in 2020. I think I don't know exactly how it didn't happen if maybe it did happen in 2024. We don't know. But either way, these two parties are at a power struggle right now. And one of them are going to come out victorious. And it may mean a war. It really may, which is why you see the Democrats and the decision should this just six and you see this influence of trying to encourage and and manipulate the military members to not follow orders and to go against their generals or go against the orders of the president.

They want a faction of the military to go against the orders and they want to use that that military as their own. But don't you think it's crazy that when the Democrats were in office, they changed our military to be woke and not to. be like manly or powerful. Yeah, but you also have to understand how many of those woke people have been doing mass shootings lately, you know? Yeah, that's true. I mean, they're, they're indoctrinating a lot of these people. And they're making those people feel like that this government or those people that they

are against are fascist. They are communist. They are dictators. They are the next Stalin. They are the next, you know, Putin or President Z. That's what they're making these people believe. and then that's going to make these people believe that we must do this to save our country or to save my way of living or the fact that I'm trans or this or that.

I got to fight for my people and my values. And so they're going to, at some point in time, there's going to be, I think, a divide. And as in what there is a divide. Well, there is a divide. But what I'm saying is there's going to be a divide in generals. There's going to be a divide in who's taking orders from who. And once that happens, I think that'll be a coup, that'll set up a civil war, that someone will become victorious. Well, you just said that there would not be a civil war.

No, but I'm saying not a civil war in the way you think it is. Like, I'm talking about a civil war between military, the factions that, you know, subvert from the other, like, who's not taking orders from Trump? Who's going to take the orders from whoever is in control of the other side? We're going to see that potentially. So if that were the case, do you think other militia groups will form? and go with opposite sides. Yes. I mean, I think that probably, I mean, but, you know, also during the entire presidency of Biden and Harris,

there was a reason why that Facebook and all the social media heavily monitored groups and chats and everything that, you know, there's also a reason why they were trying to pass and push through a law through Congress that, and I think I think they actually did to where they said no more than so many people can train with weapons. and all that stuff because then you'd be considered a militia. Yeah, it was three or more people. Yeah, they were one to outlaw militias. Yeah. And so there were reasons for all of this.

They knew what was coming. They did not want that side to be able to organize because they were organized in their side. And so if you have this big advantage of organization, like say, for example, if the CIA has brought in 40 to 80,000 zero unit members that are going to fight for you. And then you have at the same time, the big tech companies that are, are also siding with the Democrats, which they did and silence everybody and not allowed anybody on the other side to organize, then all of a sudden, if a civil war happens, you're going to be

heavily at a disadvantage. You're going to have so much organization on this side, like all of the groups and socialist groups and communist groups and every damn thing else is out there. And then you're going to have the right, which has no organization. They have no groups because they're not allowed to have groups. They're called a domestic terrorist. That's what everybody on the right was called for the entire president. You're called domestic terrorist if you criticize LGBTQ or trans or or basically anybody on the left.

You were you were considered a terrorist. And so now it's like the right doesn't have organization. The left still very much does. And I think that it's probably a lot more than we even realize. I think it's controlled by CIA. I think that they're utilizing all these Afghan nationals and probably a lot more groups, to be honest with you, other than just these zero units. I think there's so many other groups, such as the cartel members that have come in from Mexico and Venezuela and South America and you name it. I think the deep state has full control over these groups.

And guys, I hate to tell you, if you think that the Trump and Cash Patel and all that administration has control over all this shit, they don't. They don't even have control over the Epstein files. How do you think they're going to have control of all the groups that are likely organized already that are under? control of whether it be CIA or whoever it is inside of America. They don't have control of this. And I don't think they realized how deep it was. And I still probably think they don't realize how deep it is. So do you think the CIA is still controlled by the left?

Yeah. Well, I don't. I mean, yeah, the left that has been influenced. And I mean, but I also think it's not just a lot. I mean, I think there are people on the right that are influenced, but in the same faction, the same people. So I don't know what is going to be out. All I do know is that this is going to get bad.

And I think it's going to get bad over the next three years. I think it's going to get bad quicker than you think. We've been waiting to see like what would be the result of an open border. What would be the result over this operation allies are welcome and bringing in all these thousands of people. Now, to be quite honest, I had no idea about they brought in that many of the zero unit death squads from Afghanistan into America. I had zero clue.

Never heard about it until this guy shot two. National Guard members. Never even heard about it. By the way, they're all in the Washington area and some in California. Well, they're not all in Washington. I mean, they've got some in Texas. Yeah, I mean, they got some in Texas. They got some in Florida.

They're kind of spread out. And I'm sure there are larger groups in places like you say, Washington and California. But, you know, these intelligence agencies can utilize these people in any way they want. And I'm not, I'm not blaming or saying that the top. the heads of the CIA are going to, you know, the government and whole are the ones that are going to, I guess, kind of operate or activate these people. You know, I don't know. But what I am saying is that there's something much deeper going on behind the scenes.

And I think that we're probably going to see it sooner than later. And I understand this is about two National Guards members that were shot. But I think this is just kind of a little taste of what is to. to come. And I think it's going to get worse. And also at the same time, you get to think about it on both sides. Keep in mind, you got to be very clear-minded when it comes to what side and how do I take the sides of what I'm thinking about. Because you're going to have one side that wants a sedition. They want a coup. They want to overthrow this government. And then you're going to have this government that is going to go hardcore on the other side, literally including potentially martial law.

I mean, I'm talking about where they do bring in the military. Yeah, and you've talked about that a lot. Yeah, to completely take over the streets of America. Right. And maybe even, maybe even use as an excuse to become a dictator or to stay in power because of the sedition possibility or the coup, right? This could all be. And then the very top of this is this could all be some master plan to where they do create

this dictatorship. And they want you to believe we have to do this because this side is going to try overthrow our government and this side and this deep state and whoever is going to try to turn the military against us. So we have to do this. We get to lock this down. And is there going to be a attack that allows either Trump or whoever in the future to stay in power? I don't know. It has happened in other countries. I won't say who, but it has happened in other countries. But it's just so weird and so crazy how divided our country is. Like we are on opposite ends of the scale right now. And I don't remember a.

in my life where we're so divided than we are now. It's almost like there's people on Facebook that can't even be friends with each other anymore if they have opposite political views. Yeah. Yeah, it's weird because you see that online. You see it everywhere. But like we've been gone a week and I'll be honest. I haven't met anybody that would have opposite views.

I mean, I'm sure if you probably talk to some people longer than 20 or 30 minutes, you might find that if you talk about certain issues like we talk about in the podcast, that you might find that they hate you or, I mean, I don't hate anybody, but you would probably find some people that would hate you pretty quick based on your views or your outlooks. I mean, and people even to listen to this podcast hate us because of some of the things we say. You know, that's just the way it is. And we're trying to be the most unbiased people as possible. I mean, that's literally, that's literally why we talk about both sides.

Yes, we do. But why do you think we're so divided? I don't know. I mean, it's just influence. That's all it is. and they're using every group of people, every belief system, every viewpoint.

They're using it all to divide everybody right now. They're using everything because black and white didn't work. Yeah, it didn't. Like the black versus white didn't work. And they try it hard. Now they got to do everything else. They got to do they got to do Israel.

They got to do military. They got to do dictatorship. They got to do Russia, Ukraine. They've been doing that for a while. They're going to do everything to divide. But I think now they're just done with trying to divide. us as much anymore. They're more concerned about who's going to come out on top of this political war. Yeah, and who they can control more. Yeah, but like, exactly.

Which party they can control. But the deep state is going to take the side of who they can control more. And they're going to win the war probably. Yeah. And so we'll see how it all plays out. Because I'm telling you who, like, like you said, whoever that they can fully manipulate and, carry out their orders on a everyday scale, those are the people that are going to win the war. Those are the people that are going to be the head of this America that we've never seen before. And so, guys, let us know what you think. What do you think about what we're talking about? I know this kind of goes pretty deep in the rabbit hole, but there is a lot to say about this.

We've been thinking a lot about this as we've been gone. Let us know what you think. Do you think this is inevitable that we are going to have a dictatorship soon? Or do you think that it's just going to continue as a democracy and we're just going to keep hating each other and there's going to be political divide? Or do you think that one side or the other is going to, win. When is in becoming the king or becoming the dictator of America. Will we be the new China? But until next time, guys, we love you. We'll be back tomorrow with Three Eye Atlas episode. Until then, this is the river's going to cry when you're gone. We do send our hearts out to the

National Guard members that was shot, especially Sarah, that had lost her life. We pray so much for both their families. Until next time, we love you guys. Peace out, peace out, guys. would always when we sat there you and I the river's gonna cry when you heard you want to leave this place where we grew up this old town just leave it all behind the river's gonna cry when you're gone