Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Diddy Scandal Gamestop Run Iran President Conspiracy & UFOs with Ian Carroll

Episode Date: May 22, 2024

Here's the audio version of our X live video session from last night, featuring our special guest, Ian Carroll. We delved into the Diddy scandal, the latest GameStop surge, the death of Iran's preside...nt, and UFO phenomena. Ian Carroll, a viral sensation with millions of views on various platforms, joined us to share his insights on these trending topics. This episode turned out to be one of our best yet! We explored whether the death of Iran's president is part of a larger conspiracy, the reality and origins of UFOs, and if the newest GameStop surge will reveal more about market manipulation by hedge funds than the first time. All of this and more on this episode of Diddy Scandal Gamestop Run Iran President Conspiracy & UFOs with Ian CarrollOur X AccountIan Carrol X Account

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey guys, welcome to the audio-only edition of our ex-live stream we did last night with Ian Carroll. Man, this was a great interview. We talked about all kinds of stuff from P-Ditty and all the allegations around P-D-D-D to GameStop to Iran's president to UFOs, you name it. We talk about it. It's an amazing interview. Ian Carroll is a viral sensation right now and an even better guy. So we hope you enjoy it. Oh, and welcome to Investigator's Podcast.
Starting point is 00:00:54 I am your host, Chad, alongside. my beautiful wife Sherry welcome to the show guys we have a very very very special guest I'm very excited to bring to the stage this evening or I guess this afternoon where good old Ian is
Starting point is 00:01:09 let's bring Ian up right now Ian how's it going man Hey guys good to be here man I'm so excited for this yes I'm excited all day I've been showing people your TikToks I'm like you know this guy
Starting point is 00:01:21 he's coming on our podcast I'm so excited yeah so Ian obviously we're going to push this to audio also. But for those that don't know who you are, let me first say that we actually found you because we do like deep dive podcast episodes. We go conspiracy, corruption, you name it.
Starting point is 00:01:39 We do a little bit of everything. But we have utilized a couple of your audios that I think we did for Diddy. And I think we might have for something else. And one thing I know about you is that you do an amazing job with breaking everything down very fast. So if your videos are five or six minutes, it's like, man, you know, there's probably people out there to think, oh, that's like so easy five or six minutes long. But the amount of information you break down in six minutes takes us like two hours, right? And so we were, we loved your work, obviously.
Starting point is 00:02:12 We connected, I think, kind of through Ashton Forbes and kind of that whole thing, the MH370 thing. But explain kind of what got you into this. And how do you do that, man? It's six minutes. Yeah, man. It is an art form to break it down quickly and understandably without, you know, being too simple or too complex. Yeah. And it's something I've developed over time. I've been doing this only for about a year so far. I got into it because I was, I was a GameStop investor and I was watching the GameStop community kind of unravel the corruption post-2020, doing a lot of research and digging. And I was just another guy on the internet reading and trying to learn. And eventually I just got kind of bored of waiting and realized that I had a certain set of skills that I could probably bring to the table. And someone needed to start making videos to communicate all the corruption that we were finding about the markets. So I just decided to build my platform TikTok first, just about corruption in general and about what's going on, trying to educate myself and just sharing that journey of education. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:13 And it hit big fast. I blew up on TikTok and has since diversified all over the place. And my questions have also diversified as I've learned more about the basics. I've started to ask more better questions. And that leads you to more better questions. Yeah, absolutely. This is like Diddy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:30 And so I got to tell you, so we're not obviously huge day traders. or big stock people. But I do have a Robin Hood account that I can't get into. Yeah. Well, so I remember when GameStop was blowing up, right? And so we are what you would consider the average consumer, the average investor,
Starting point is 00:03:47 like someone that was new to the scene. You know, we've dabbled in investing a little bit here, a little bit there. But it was fun because as GameStop happened and Wall Street bets and the whole thing went crazy, we had to at least try it, right? And it did not necessarily always
Starting point is 00:04:04 go correctly for us, only because there's something that you mentioned in your video that number one, GameStop is not necessarily a get-rich quick thing to do. And probably more so it was maybe back then for some, if you were kind of on the train when it was
Starting point is 00:04:20 rolling. But yeah, we had some very interesting things. I did a little bit better in GameStop. Sherry was basically by the time I said, hey, check this out, man. My account's going up. As soon as I said that, Sherry's like, well, maybe I'll buy. Then she bought, and then it was just dipping. Right. So that's how it worked.
Starting point is 00:04:36 But also I remember when freaking Robin Hood stopped, they halted trading. And this was when this whole thing blew up. They portnoy went all over the place. What is your analysis? First of all, let's go back to when GameStop started. You said that you had created the content around that. How corrupt was it then that they halted GameStop even back then when this whole thing first started? Oh, I mean, it's basically blatantly illegal.
Starting point is 00:05:02 And the only reason why it didn't get prosecuted is because they have, all their friends are the people that would prosecute them. And we're talking about the richest people in the world, the ones that are all the bankers, that are all the market makers. And so it's kind of just another 08 bailout kind of a situation where it's like, are you really going to go after the people that pay your bills and fund your campaigns? I don't know is it's technically literally illegal, but obviously the buy button has never been turned off in history before as far as I'm aware. And there's a reason why is because that's obviously fraudulent and undermines the whole concept of being a brokerage. So that was sort of its own unprecedented level of fraud and crime right in front of all of our eyes. But it also implied a lot more fraud and crime behind the scenes that before then was only kind of speculated at. And a lot of people didn't even realize there was a bigger story.
Starting point is 00:05:59 but if they were willing to do something so overtly underhanded just to protect themselves, that got a lot of people asking the question of like, wait a minute, how much were you going to lose and actually cover your shorts? Because if you actually covered your shorts, you wouldn't need to turn off the buy button because you'd be safe now. And so that was actually the move that ironically got all the GameStop community to decide to hold for three and a half plus years to today and start doing this huge amount of digging
Starting point is 00:06:33 and uncovering the actual fraud and the actual crime that went on that was way better than just the buy button thing. Yeah. And it's so interesting because how the media portrayed that, right? I mean, it was like they started to say, Wall Street Betts is who's illegal here. It's not the hedge funds.
Starting point is 00:06:48 It's not the people that are really screwing. The people over is Wall Street Betts. And that was what was so crazy to me. And by the way, guys, everybody that's listening, and Didler updates and all that stuff, we're definitely getting to Didler. But we started with GME. We'll roll with this for a minute.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Now, did you make any money off of GME in the beginning? Like, how did that work out for you? No, I've never sold a share of GameStop to this day. And I didn't get in, I didn't get in before the first thing happened. I got in right after it. I watched it happen. I learned about it part way through, watched it all happen. And once it dropped out to the very bottom, I was digging around in Reddit a little
Starting point is 00:07:26 bit and starting to get the inklings that there's something bigger going on here. And that's where I bought in and was like, I think there might be more to this. And I'm curious to just get involved. And the more I got involved, the more I realized like, oh, yeah, there's a lot going on here. And so I bought over and over and over for a couple of years there. And I've been holding all that ever since. That's nuts. So I want to get to since we're actually on GME, we got to get to this for a minute.
Starting point is 00:07:53 And I say GME because that's how I always look it up. I'm going to share I'm going to share this real quick and we're going to go over just a couple of Roaring Kitty's things the new Roaring Kitty. I love him. And that's what I was crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Obviously he had not posted and how long had he not posted on X since the original? Almost three years, maybe a little like two and a half or more years. I think there's a fair bit of evidence that he had some sort of gag order against him from a legally buying like from some sort of legal situation.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Yeah. That may have just been. lifted, but also for his own personal sanity, it's pretty understandable that he went dark based upon what had happened. For sure. Yeah, that makes sense. The real question is, why is he back right now in the middle of this run? And like, what's this all about?
Starting point is 00:08:37 Yeah, so we got this picture here. Obviously, he posted Ben Affleck outside of GameStop smoking a cigarette, which I thought was very interesting. And then, you know, he had the Steve Wilco show, which I really liked this one. Listen to this. Look at the screen. Yep.
Starting point is 00:08:54 That's my. and that's what you're going to settle for. So anyways, I thought that was freaking hilarious. And then of course he had, you know, all these memes when it came out. That one was a pretty great one too. There's so many to go through. That one's a little longer. But man, he's a meme lord.
Starting point is 00:09:16 And there's layers of tinfoil to be smoked about each of these things. And if anyone wants to get the full like tinfoil experience, on it. They should check out the PPCs show. They do a lot more than just info on PPCs. I recently was on there hanging out with them and they have spent all of last week. And they're like deep in the GME and the bed baths and beyond communities like in the retail stock communities. And they did like six hours a day, every day analyzing these memes just for fun and just for like the sake of maybe there there might be some stuff in there. And man, it was a good time. Oh, and there is. I mean, that's the funny thing. I mean, there is so much. He was basically telling
Starting point is 00:09:55 the audience like hey guys I'm gonna use memes to tell you what we're doing here I'm your commander and so I think this also you know I think this sums up the stock market just in this phrase check this out that's the tweet we're talking yeah and is this something that we should be tolerating
Starting point is 00:10:11 in our markets you know whether it's legal I don't think so I'm like what do you say fuck me for so I mean it's yeah it goes back to like this is what they think right they think that you guys, we are dumb, anyone that wants to invest in this and that you have these guys
Starting point is 00:10:31 coming on mainstream media saying, I think what they're doing right now is illegal. What is the legality in your opinion of say Roaring Kitty or say your account because you have a big account on X and you talk about GME or whatever the case is? Is that considered manipulation? Because I don't think it is. Oh, it's very clear. Go to Jim Kramer on CNBC any day of the week and he'll tell you to buy all kinds of stocks and that's perfectly legal.
Starting point is 00:11:00 That is just people discussing their opinions of the market and there's obviously no way in hell that they're ever actually going to be able to brand regular people talking about stocks as illegal. It only becomes illegal when you're coordinating buys in like a active collusionary way, which obviously is not happening. But the more important thing to just say about it is that we know Gary Genson the head of the SEC had openly said during this saga that we know now that 95% of regular retail traders orders like your buy orders from Robin Hood, my buy orders from Fidelity, they don't
Starting point is 00:11:33 actually go to the open market. They go to dark pools where they get shuffled around in their own private little trading spaces. They don't actually affect the real price. So that's one layer. The other layers, we don't have the money to affect the price, the way that it's getting moved. Like, you know, this massive shootup that happened last week by like $30 and in a couple hours, that's not ever retail money. That is institutional money making those moves. And it happened mostly before and after the market was closed, which most retail traders don't even have access to in the first place. And so it's just this open spinning of this bullshit narrative that we are the ones colluding and manipulating the price when it's like there are layers
Starting point is 00:12:11 of how obvious it is that this is institutional fraud behind the scenes. Manipating the price. And by the way, so Ian, you had talked about that is that is not retail, right? What you're seeing in that pump. Is that because they realized that they were about to lose based on a pump that was coming from the retail side. And so they had to buy back shares in order to counter their short. Do you mean in 2021 or do you mean right now? Well, even right now
Starting point is 00:12:35 or what happened over the past week. Yeah, a lot of speculation and I'm certainly not expert enough to break down the actual like there are ways to kind of dig through the data and the options change to really understand a little more about what's going on with the price. but without getting too deep into the technicals of how markets work, most of the trading movement that happens isn't from you and me buying shares of stocks. It's from people that are buying leveraged contracts like options and derivatives,
Starting point is 00:13:05 which is a way for you to spend, you know, $10, but leverage $100 worth of movement. And those are a lot of fun to trade. That's the real stock market gambling casino like place. And a lot of retail traders are doing that now based on Reddit and based upon games. stuff in 2021. And those sort of have this delayed effect where if a lot of those contracts are getting traded, then the people that the market makers, like the institutions that are providing those contracts, they have to hedge their positions against the risk that they're taking on the opposite side of all of our trades. And so there's a whole bunch of buying and selling that happens
Starting point is 00:13:39 institutionally to sort of offset the pressure of all of the options trading. And that kind of stuff does move prices in big ways and can cause what looks like. like short squeezes, even though it's actually just sort of reaction to sentiment that is leveraged and then magnified really big. Yeah. And Joe said here, what about AMC same circumstance? Now, was that also Wall Street Betts, same thing. Why did they go for AMC also? This is an interesting and complicated one. And there's a lot of division in the communities. Everyone has their stock that like they all kind of fight. And I'm really over it. I'm trying to get to a world where we fight less. And I've talked about AMC in the past.
Starting point is 00:14:19 now's a good opportunity for me to say like, I love you AMC investors. I got no beef with you guys. We all disagree on how the evidence sort of like tells us what is really going on behind the scenes. But the, I think a lot of us agree that what it looks like has happened is GameStop was the original sort of short squeeze situation that they got trapped in. But they have been trading behind the scenes with a bunch of baskets of swaps, meaning like they have all these short positions on all these different companies.
Starting point is 00:14:48 and they're trading like large portions of their balance sheet with other institutions in these swap trades that make it so that multiple companies are all manipulated and all that manipulation is kind of getting bundled and then put around the market as groups. And so when one moves, that forces the other ones to move in sort of a sympathetic way. And it's very complicated. That's a very oversimplified way to put it. But it makes it so that even if like AMC is a very different company with a very different leadership with a very different circumstance, but it is also heavily manipulated and heavily
Starting point is 00:15:21 short-rolled. And so they both move like meme stocks, which is actually just kind of a cover word to cover up all the manipulation that's happening and blame it on us. And like Bedbath and Beyond was another good example of one. Cost gets talked about it. Like there's a lot, there's a couple of them. And we have pretty solid evidence that they are joined behind the scenes by exchange traded funds that contain them all that are getting manipulated and then basket swaps that are getting switched around to kind of like hide things on balance sheets and do weird sketchy things in the background. We have pretty solid evidence that that's happening too. Well, I know you're a now you like RFK Jr. right? Is that kind of who you're? Yeah. So far I like him a fair bit. Obviously he's got a lot of
Starting point is 00:16:05 he's got some issues. But of the time, I mean, if you were to take all the content that I make and translate it into a politician, RFK is pretty damn close to that politician. He spent his whole life calling out corporations and corruption. And I mean, He can be a little better on Israel, in my opinion, but like, you know, it's complicated and nothing is black and white. Well, let me show you. Let me show you here. This is what RFK, I'm very aware of what the average retail investor has been saying about
Starting point is 00:16:31 the need for greater transparency in our market, stronger regulatory oversight, tougher penalties for market manipulation and criminal behavior. My administration will support the ape retail rebellion and enact aggressive Wall Street reforms. And to match action with words, I just invested 24,000 in game stuff. from bees I earn from suing Monsanto, where they're knowingly poison our soil and causing cancer. He said, I love the idea of making Monsanto support GME and the apes.
Starting point is 00:16:57 We need a free and fair market. Let's punish the predatory short selling to the moon. By the way, I ride with you and I'm not leaving. Wow. I mean, okay, at the very least, that's what's up, Bobby.
Starting point is 00:17:09 That's insane, right? Diamond-handed Bobby, baby. Exactly. To the moon and diamond hands. Yeah, the game shop investors are going a little wild over that. on today. It's pretty cool. It's crazy though. Like in, you know, it's kind of funny too. I saw Trump today said, by the way, I am now taking donations in crypto.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Yeah, Trump's taking a lot of donations lately. So what do you think, though, is going to be the end is the game stop thing? Is the primary reason really, not the reason, but is the big message just going to come from this that the system is rigged? It is not for the people. You're not going to make money. Is it Vegas? Is it not even Vegas? Say, for example, you go to a Biloxi, Mississippi casino, right? And there's a lot of people that say, if you go to certain casinos, especially if you say, for example, go to Aruba. There are casinos down there, and you are definitely screwed down there because of the regular, they don't have the same regulatory that we have in the United States. But is, let's just put it this way, is the stock market Aruba casinos? Is that essentially kind of like
Starting point is 00:18:15 Yeah, and it has been all long. But I think my current belief based upon a fair bit of evidence and all, basically all the GameStop investors belief at this point is that we still have them by the tail. And that's why the stock acts the way it does. And that's why it would shoot up overnight out of nothing on this random thing last week is that's like very strong evidence that we've actually still got them. And all we need to do is hold. And it's very possible, not necessarily there's going to be some like insane million
Starting point is 00:18:43 dollar short squeeze or anything. that's not necessarily certain, but it is highly likely that the end result, if we don't stop holding, is that there actually will be large collapses in these corrupt institutions. And that will probably rewrite the nature of the markets because, I mean, the markets are kind of overdue for being rewritten anyways. There's a lot of sentiment building around that because it is just a casino and we all know it by now. But there's no better way to start the construction of a new casino than by literally demolishing the old one. Absolutely. No, I 100% agree. And so look, the last thing with GME, because we got to get us some juicy stuff, man. We got a lot to talk about to me. Yeah, we got to get some juicy stuff. But I want one last thing. I'm going to share this for a quick. I need to pause this, share it. And I just want you to tell me what this means and what the deal is. And I'm sure there's people people probably asking this. But what does this mean? What does this mean from Roaring Kitty? So there's Roaring Kitty. That is his last. video four days ago, right?
Starting point is 00:20:47 So as you said, is he the meme king, right? I mean, look at that and he's like, I'm leaving. Is that basically what I'm saying? And how long is it going to be until he's back? That's a good question. Let me give you the sort of the three layers of interpretation there. The first two are super
Starting point is 00:21:03 quick. The bearish layer is like, see, he came and he pumped and dumped and he's gone. It's over. And you know, fair if you want, if you believe that interpretation. Then like the first first layer of bullish, like layer two, is that he came, that, that the, the thing came and imparted an important piece of information upon us and gave us something that we can hold on to. And his job is done and now he's on his way.
Starting point is 00:21:30 And that is also a perfectly legitimate interpretation. And he certainly did do that. The fun tinfoil version is that the GameStop people were analyzing the shit out of this. And they were, people have put them all into one big movie. so you can watch them all in one order. But over the sequence of the whole last three and a half years, there's been a lot of kind of recurring themes and tinfoil that has sort of gained momentum and some of it is not panned out
Starting point is 00:21:55 and some of it is still open. And one is a theme of watching things backwards. Like in Ready Player 1, the scenes about going backwards to go forwards has come up a lot. Ryan Cohen has tweeted things where it's written backwards. And so someone came up with the idea to watch all of Roaring Kitty's memes in reverse order. and they made a video of all of them in reverse order.
Starting point is 00:22:17 And man, it was interesting to see the, because he did have them all pre-made. Like he did. That's not pretty edited. Because you know he's not editing videos on the fly to publish every 15 minutes. That's not happening. So I think the most fun version of the tinfoil
Starting point is 00:22:34 is actually you're supposed to watch them all in reverse. And I don't necessarily have an opinion one way or the other. I certainly think that that middle opinion of like he imparted something important, important to us and then his job was done and he went on his way is perfectly valid just at face value because he definitely did that. Yeah, absolutely. Wow. So GameStop, you know, we're going to see what's going to happen. Where is it at right now, Ian, lastly? And do you think it's going to go up anymore? Do you think it's done? What do you think? And then it's somewhere, it's somewhere around $20
Starting point is 00:23:05 ish right now, give or take. But it's important for people to remember that have not been with this, that they did a four for one stock split at one point a couple years ago. And so, If you're thinking 2021 prices, you have to multiply today's price by four. So in $21, we're actually at $80 a share right now. And so all the short sellers that were shorting it to 300% short interest before the 2021 squeeze, when the stock was at $5, that's like from $5 to $80 is currently the picture. So we're still way up on the moon, so to speak. And personally, I think we have not even begun to see the end of this move.
Starting point is 00:23:43 And I also think that there's backwards really, really fast. Sorry. And I was showing the moon here because we actually do have a moon in our desk. And I think I think that the market moves that cause the movement today, like these options trades, these other like leverage bets, they often have ripple effects, even regardless of GameStop that take a couple weeks to fully ripple. And beyond that, like we're not going anywhere.
Starting point is 00:24:12 we're all holding in with all this new momentum, a bunch of new people bought in and started to hold and understand that it's just a hold play. And so, yeah, I think we're far from over. Oh, my bad. Okay, so let me ask you this. We're going to go to Diddy next. Should we play your video or do you want to try to explain what you're...
Starting point is 00:24:30 You can if you want to, but I could also just kind of free ball it on... Okay, all right, okay. All right, well, let's do that. So we'll get to the new video of Diddy soon. Obviously, there was a new video that emerged. Did he beaten the hell out of somebody and, you know, what's new? And then we're going to get to his apology.
Starting point is 00:24:48 We'll rate his apology from one to ten in just a minute. I think most of you agree this. A ten apology, I think he's really sincere. And so go ahead and tell me, look, I think the craziest part of your video that you highlighted about the Diddy situation was the amount of people that Diddy is connected to. I mean, I'm talking about industry players,
Starting point is 00:25:10 and it's not just industry players, Like if you look at the, what do you want to call it, the hierarchy, the pyramid, the whatever it is. And the amount of people that's connected to Diddy is freaking insane. Let me ask you, let me ask you this question, because I think this is going to be more interesting to ask this question with the Diddy situation. We have Epstein, right? Epstein had Epstein Island. Epstein potentially was a CIA informant, potentially even other intelligence. agencies as well.
Starting point is 00:25:43 We don't 100% know. He had cameras everywhere. Yeah, he rose to power in fame and money and fortune. And yet he wasn't really shit. He was really kind of nobody in a lot of ways. But for whatever reason, he kind of rose to power, got in there, I don't know if you want to call it right positions. But he manipulated politicians, famous people, you name it.
Starting point is 00:26:06 In Epstein, if you look at the ditty situation, Epstein's like, everybody was, focus on Epstein or like, oh my God, can you believe Epstein was such a bad dude like that? Can you believe this actually happens? And then you see Diddy. And this is just little people that were starting to find. How many people are out there, number one, but let's just first go into Diddy. What is the Diddy situation? And is there some type of a cult slash Illuminati in the way of, and I know this sounds weird,
Starting point is 00:26:35 but you always, you always see these dudes doing this or the people that do the Illuminati sign. and you see various signs in pop culture and Hollywood and music. Is the Luminati type thing, is that connected to any of the ditty stuff and how manipulation works in the industry, including politics, by the way? It's a good place to start this question. And it's a complicated answer
Starting point is 00:27:00 because in sort of conspiracy theory circles, the concept of Illuminati is more tied to like the historic Illuminati group and them thrive like that whole history. And in the rap industry actually, like the whispers in the rap industry are some of the most saturated with the word Illuminati of any conspiracy space there is.
Starting point is 00:27:26 And it's coming straight from the people in the industry. People like Kat Williams or people like 50 Cent. People like they're the ones that are using the word Illuminati to describe what's going on, which I don't, don't know if that's just a cultural thing of them all kind of like adopting that word and just choosing to use it as a piece of symbolism or if there actually is like some sort if like if the group might actually call themselves Illuminati. I don't know. But the symbolism is I mean at first I was kind of dismissive of it. But like yeah, it's like whatever. But the more I looked into it,
Starting point is 00:28:00 the more it starts to just be like, that's a lot of coincidences. That's an awful lot of symbolism. And symbolism is a powerful thing. And in cult and sort of like ritualistic groups, which are very common in big power structures, secretive societies, secret power structures. Like those things all kind of tend to go together. And there's precedent for that. So as for the Illuminati nature of it,
Starting point is 00:28:25 I don't necessarily know and I don't know necessarily matters a whole lot because there is certainly some sort of power structure in the music industry that is actively controlling at least portions of it. And there's sort of two big avenues that seem to crisscross here that we have pretty good evidence of both at this point. And one is the prison industrial complex's influence on rap music to sort of create a pipeline of people. And the other is this newly obvious sort of blackmail scheme that Diddy's running in the middle of some of the most powerful record label groups in the industry.
Starting point is 00:29:04 that just sort of implies that, I mean, if Lucy and Grange of Universal Music Group, the CEO of Universal Music Group is funding Diddy's Parties and attending Diddy's Parties, like they are responsible for one third of the Billboard Top 100 songs from last year, people like Taylor Swift. So that just implies a huge amount of subversion and control over the music industry just from a power dynamic. And so I have a lot of questions about how much are the, those two like interest groups the same how much they aligned are they different um how much bigger
Starting point is 00:29:39 and deeper does it go and i suspect much deeper and much bigger yeah and it's weird because you know when we were looking into this ditty thing and you go back to even justin beber right that's one of sherry's that's my guy that's one of sherry's man she she she loves justin bierer and look he's a great he's a freaking great artist i mean he is yeah um but there have been signs and and there's been things that when it comes to Pete, Diddy, I want to play you guys this clip real quick, and I need to make sure the audio is not on here, but I want to play this clip of Justin Bieber while we're here. And we're going to put this up on the screen and we're going to play this real quick. Check this out. Justin, he's in, you ever seen the movie 48 hours? Right now, he's having
Starting point is 00:30:24 48 hours with Diddy, him and his boy. They're having the times of their lives. Like, like, you know, Where are we hanging out and what we're doing? We can't really disclose. Look at his face. It's definitely a 15-year-old's dream. You know, I have been given custody of him. You know, he signed to Usher. I had legal guardianship of Usher when, you know, he did his first album.
Starting point is 00:30:53 I did Usher's first album. I don't really, I don't have legal guardianship of him, but for the next 48 hours, he's with me. so um yeah and yeah we're gonna go full I'm sorry I'm sorry
Starting point is 00:31:07 that's funny I'm sorry I don't want to get it off but yeah so you know you have you have Justin Bieber which is you know blew up right he freaking absolutely blew up and then I want to play one more video about Justin Bieber real quick we're gonna we're gonna put this one on full blast too because this is later on
Starting point is 00:31:27 kind of, I remember this one. Yeah, this is kind of later on. And it's funny what P. Diddy says here to Justin and kind of his response. And I thought this was kind of funny. Check this out.
Starting point is 00:31:39 And by the way, hopefully everybody can actually hear this. I'm hoping. Yeah, it's coming through. Okay, cool. All right. Don't act different, huh? You ain't been calling me and hanging out the way we used to hang out.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Well, I mean, you try to get in contact with me, you know, through all my, you know, you know, partners and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:31:55 But you never really got my number. Yeah, he's about to give him a fake damn number is what he's going to do. Because, like, by the way, if you're a dude and you ever went to a bar and a girl, you're trying to get her number and she might just give you a random number. Seems like that's what Justin was doing to OPD. If he's smart, that's what he was doing. Yes, but you could tell he was like standoff. She's like, I don't want you to have my number.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Yeah. So with the Justin Bieber thing and all of this, right? I mean, we got to go back briefly to, if you're talking about Epstein, you're talking about P. Diddy, how big do you think, Ian, that child sex trafficking or manipulation through either homosexual sex, which just seems to be for some reason, homosexual sex, which, by the way, we have tons of friends that are gay or lesbian. Actually, we have someone that works for us. What I'm saying is, like, how do you feel like, how big is this issue? Because even do you remember when the report came out about Instagram was one of the big traffic hubs of child sex trafficking, Instagram and Facebook? Although they censored everybody they did not agree with. When it comes to child sex trafficking, they kind of are today.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Exactly. How big do you think this problem really is, Ian? I think it's orders of magnitude bigger than regular people understand. And a good way to unpack it quickly is to. realize that, yeah, blackmail has been around for forever and video blackmail has been around for a long time. And it goes back to the founding of the FBI, the founder of the FBI, who was the lead director of the FBI for 50 years, Jay Edgar Hoover. He was blackmailed by the mob and the mafia collectively, having photos of him doing gay things with his assistant Clyde
Starting point is 00:33:46 Tolson. And actually the history of like homosexual blackmail is an intentional creation of the McCarthy era, and they created what was called the Lavender Scare, where at the time, being homosexual was way more taboo, and they stoked the taboo intentionally. Hoover was a big part of stoking it to try to front because it was in the Cold War,
Starting point is 00:34:09 and they were saying that if you're gay and you're in politics, then the Soviet Union could blackmail you with that. And so they built all this fear up about it, which actually they were the ones getting blackmailed for their homosexual activity, by the mob of the mafia. And that was like the first instance of photo and video,
Starting point is 00:34:28 like being widely used as a blackmail tool. But then you take that forwards, you know, 60 to 70 years. And the level of technology we have now combined with the amount of money that's out there now, combined with the size of the world. Like most people live in their little bubbles. And they don't realize that like all you need is like a couple warehouses in Mexico, a couple warehouses in Bolivia, a couple warehouses in some like middle of nowhere, Arkansas, and you can have thousands and thousands of people trafficking through these things.
Starting point is 00:34:55 And especially if you have people like people inside of agencies, people inside of government on the take. And if I mean, if we have Bill Clinton flying to Epstein's Island, you know, 50 times, 100 times, like what, I mean, that's how it's on the plane. But you get the point is that if we have these people at the very top of government are utilizing these services, then you damn well better believe that these networks are vastly larger than we're being told. Yeah. And that even takes you to a Bohemian Grove. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:22 I was so surprised to hear that actually happens. I'm like, are you kidding me? They really do this stuff there? Yeah. It's nuts. I mean, you know, Alex Jones obviously exposed Bohemian Grove quite a while ago. Alex Jones has been a ride about a lot of crazy things. I mean, and look, I still don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:42 I've actually been looking because we have, we have a pond in our backyard. And I've been, we have frogs. and I've just been seeing if any of them are gay or not. I think it's only frogs in the rivers that are turning gay. Maybe that's what it is. Yeah, they actually did. Yeah, they actually did turn gay. The river that was being polluted by whatever chemical company I was.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Really? Yeah, yeah, he was talking about a real thing. It was some sort of chemical plant or something associated with the big corporation that was dumping some sort of toxin into the river that was affecting the hormones of the frogs. And the frogs were all turning gay, literally. literally. Oh my God. Which is not uncommon.
Starting point is 00:36:20 There are similar examples with fish that are turning transsexual. Like they are getting born with both sex organs in rivers associated with other chemical plants because like your hormones are what determine your sexuality, your heart, like all of that. And actually the funny irony is that I'm adjacent to the bodybuilding community and like my personal fitness life. And the bodybuilding community actually knows this is there are steroid hormones that are sort of like the running joke in the bodybuilding community is that if you take trend,
Starting point is 00:36:46 you're going to start wanting to fuck guys. Can we swear on this podcast? Is that allowed? Yeah. It's like a running joke that like if you take trend, get ready to go and hook up with trannies and gay dudes. Because like that will just, it'll change your whole hormonal structure and you'll get all horny.
Starting point is 00:37:02 And it just, and it's like they've known this for a long time as your hormones are very important. And you mess with them and a lot changes. Wow. And you got to think about the food. You know, the food we eat and consume on a daily basis, the genetically modified ingredients.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Everything is. GMO. Even lettuce has GMO. Oh, absolutely. Oh, yeah. We did a podcast a little while back about they are actually going to a University of California, Irvine. And, you know, they're actually doing and going through these studies where they're putting the spike protein.
Starting point is 00:37:34 They're going to be putting MRNA into lettuce and not just lettuce. They're going to be put in many vegetables. They've already experimented with this. They're doing this. I don't know if they're doing it 100% right now. but I do know the studies went through University of California, Irvine. We are being poisoned in every single way, shaping form. But, man, Ian, you just made me think about something.
Starting point is 00:37:55 I mean, could it be the shift in the way things are nowadays? Is it chemical based? I mean, even like the rivers you're talking about how it's changing frogs and fish and we're eating these things. Yeah, that's crazy, dude. Yeah, I mean, I don't talk about it too much because, like, let's be clear. Like, like trans people are people. And they deserve all the rights of a regular person.
Starting point is 00:38:18 And they're like, and they're amazing. Like trans people in general are just, you know, they're just people. Judgment individuals. But it's important for people to have the discussion that like, regardless of how you became who you are today, be aware of who might be profiting off of you being that way and off of offering you things that might force you to be that way for the rest of your life. Because like, if we're going to shame a 17 year old boy for wanting to take steroids to get jacked because of all the risks of taking steroid hormones.
Starting point is 00:38:47 It'll make you more masculine. It's like I can't even describe the risk of taking the opposite hormones and taking puberty blockers and all those. It's like that is an incredible like risk to your health. But also it just locks you into a trajectory. And I was actually just talking to someone that's doing a documentary about it today. And they gave me a figure that was north of one million dollars is the lifetime, the lifetime monetary commitment.
Starting point is 00:39:14 so to speak, of a male to female transition. If you like transition at 18 or whatever, then you're talking about like over a million dollars worth of health care. Are you talking about chopping? Are you talking about chopping it off? Yeah, that's my understanding of what they were talking about is like a full on transition. Because then you like, you're relying on for your hormonal care, you're relying on for so many parts of what is regular human health.
Starting point is 00:39:36 And like if that's really your adult decision that you really do want to do that, like I would support people's right to do that if you're an adult and you have full consent. that's fine. The keyword adult with full consent. Yes. And it's important to have the conversation about like, who's benefiting off of that? And are they financially connected to the companies that are pumping us full of chemicals that disrupting our hormones? Because we know that hormones are being disrupted and like fertility rates, testosterone levels in men, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:40:04 So, yeah. I mean, and the thing about it is, like with the, with that whole thing said, I mean, when you're trying to push it on kids and you're a parent and then, when they're 18 or 19, they don't agree with or they feel completely screwed because now you've screwed not only with their sex, what their private parts are, you are screwing with their minds because hormones, oh yeah, absolutely, fuck with your mind. I mean, like, just go and find a female that goes into menopause and see how that shit goes for you for like a month or so, you know. Or find a man that's low in testosterone and then either starts a testosterone or just fixes his
Starting point is 00:40:42 issues and like it's it's crazy it's like yeah but and i think today in this world it is being forced on children as early is first grade i know firsthand that we already have boys and girls that are um trans jest like chans dressing and changing their names and they'll go like that like we had a little boy last year dakota he was a boy turned to a girl all year and you know he was fine with it, but you could tell the mom pushed it on him because the next year, he wanted to be a boy again. Yeah, I have a big issue with it because I come from a teaching background and both my parents are teachers. And I know intimately that children don't have a preformed understanding of what's right or wrong or what's real. And so if you educate children from the earliest age that gender is a whole other
Starting point is 00:41:31 thing, it's like you will rewrite their understanding of it and you will change the way they, like, that's not their original thoughts. And like, sure, we could be more like, inclusive of people that feel differently, but we don't need to train kids to feel differently from the start because then you're just setting them up for a hard life with a bunch of hormonal needs that are provided by big time. I mean, there's parents out there having babies and not even putting a gender on the birth certificate. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Yeah. But you know what they do have is they do have chromosomes that are either X or Y. And like I try to trust the science in what I do. And so that's sorry, that's just my flippant take on it. No, no. And one of the things we talk about too, and we'll get back to day. in a second, but one of the things we talk about, one of our best friends,
Starting point is 00:42:13 she is, she's a lesbian and we talk about all kinds of issues on our podcast, right? And one of the things we talk about is, you know, the LGBTQ plus movement, right? Just the movement in general. And one of the things we found is like all of our gay and lesbian listeners.
Starting point is 00:42:29 We have a lot, by the way, and we're very proud of that. I have best friends that are homosexual. Yeah, but they always come to us and say, you know what? The reason I listen to you guys podcast is because we don't agree with the
Starting point is 00:42:38 movement. Like, yes, I am gay. yes, I am lesbian, but when they try to put us in this category where the media or whoever it is, it says they're groomers, they're this, there are, there are definitely people in that movement that are. But it's just there are so many people out there that were born, gay or lesbian, and they really do not only be connected to the movement of what the media is portraying nowadays. And I think that's a major issue. Well, and I think, too, that it's a difference between sexuality,
Starting point is 00:43:08 what sex, you know, who you're attracted to or who you want to dress like. Yeah. That's a very different thing. And it's important for everyone when they're looking at the LGBTQ plus movement, like it's important to remember that this feels left field, but covert intelligence agencies have known their whole existence and the predecessors are just corporate intelligence agencies. Like if you want to achieve a large outcome the way that they do, subvert things,
Starting point is 00:43:36 you do it to movements that already exist. Like you go to the Black Lives Matter movement, which is protesting on behalf of black people's rights. And then you radicalize it, subvert it, fund it. And then you put pallets of bricks out on the street and a peaceful protest. And suddenly you've got a riot, right? Yeah. Textbook how you do it. And the CIA, that is their job.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Like their first job was to go and overthrow the government of Italy and to rig the Italian election to get the people in that they want. And they just keep doing that every. So when I look at the LGBTQ plus, movement. I see that. I see a movement that was very like what it was and it has shifted dramatically in the last 10 years to be very militant about a very specific thing and it becomes a very in-group thing. Like you
Starting point is 00:44:18 have to agree with all of it or you're an enemy. You're not an ally. And the moment you get that, that's a red flag. Absolutely. And you just mentioned CIA. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna play this clip. We're gonna get quickly back on old Diddy. Let's play this clip here. Let's go. But as far as
Starting point is 00:44:34 Meek Mills, Puff Daddy, whoever, none in each name. all you fake hard niggas, fuck you. Wait, no, hold on. All you fake hard niggas, fuck you. You know what I'm saying? I'll get fuck who, because you can't shoot nobody anyway. And the reason why you got talks is because you did a deal, you fucking fed.
Starting point is 00:44:50 You know what I'm saying? That's why you got to come in me because part of the deal for you to be a door and get out of jail is that you promise that you're going to go pull my co-car. So y'all niggas shut the fuck up about me. Now let me say it call. You niggas shut the fuck up about, you shut the fuck up about Michael. But as far as meek meals, puff daddy, whoever, none of these niggas. Sorry, sorry, sorry.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Sorry. So yeah, yeah, that's, I mean, that's that's yay, man. I mean, it's not exactly yay anymore, though. No. Do you think that's producing porn? Yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Are you kidding? I saw that. Yeah. I have not seen that. Oh, yeah. Something happened to yay. Yeah. And that's weird because, you know, think about this.
Starting point is 00:45:33 He called out P. Did he as a CIA. Um, op. Do you think that P. that P. Diddy is? Do you think that he's connected that high? I don't think he necessarily knows it, which is very normal. That's very standard operations. Like, covert intelligence is all about plausible deniability. And so the whole point is to go through like a corporation that goes through a middleman that goes through a person that then is hiring someone on behalf of an agenda. And they intentionally compartmentalize and only tell you what you need to know to get you to do the things you
Starting point is 00:46:01 need to do. And so I think Diddy was obviously promoted by the people in the music, industry that were above him that probably already had their connections to like and at this point like all of the western intelligence agencies are all one like the five eyes like especially MI6 massad and CIA they grew up together and they've been working together ever since they were all founded and like they're they I mean they have their own agendas sometimes but often they just work together for sure so their their tentacles have been in the media industries for a long time and we know that, like disclosed facts. And so Diddy came into a scene where those tentacles already existed.
Starting point is 00:46:41 And he was promoted by people that looked like they might be connected. We don't know for sure. But the operation that he wound up with is like, I don't think Diddy knew how to wire a mansion full of hidden cameras to a secret database. Like, just going to spitball on that one. And so it looks to me like he is a pawn in a bigger game. And he's getting protection. Like he knows that he has protection from people high up.
Starting point is 00:47:04 But he probably doesn't realize, like, exactly what he is. Maybe he does. Maybe he, like, gets it, but. I agree. And, you know, I think Dave Chappelle, I think Dave Chappelle knew about P.D.D. Back in day, check his out. Y'all not working like a team. I got shut the studio down, yo.
Starting point is 00:47:23 All right. The only way I open the studio up now, y'all got walk up town to the Bronx and get breast milk from a Cambodian immigrant. I only drink a finance. breast milks breast milk's oh my god it's 100%
Starting point is 00:47:47 Cambodian yeah it's the real shit breast milk you made my day So that's the thing, dude. Like, I think that the industry knew who PDD was for a very long time. I mean, talking about Canada. There's been a lot of people talking.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Jaguar Wright is another one who's been really vocal lately. And she's a little lower, like most people don't know about Jaguar. But if you want to know what's really going on and what's about to come out, go watch Jaguar Wright. She's in it. And she's fearless. But other people talk too a lot. Like 50 Cent has been not afraid to talk about Diddy.
Starting point is 00:48:31 And he's working on a documentary right now about Diddy, which I'm very excited for. The industry has been, I mean, it's a small industry. And I think it's kind of funny, especially being like a white kid that like doesn't really like live in that world or speak that language, so to speak. And so there's a lot of things that like rappers will say that like a lot of people outside of the industry and outside of black culture, I think don't really like process that they're factual statements when they're when they're shooting the shit together. But like they're all talking about it. And if you go back and listen to podcasts over the last 10 years, like the whole hip hop industry kind of knew what was going on. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:49:09 The rest of the world is figuring it out today. And it just seems it's so big. It's like even Usher. I could not believe like Usher is in this whole thing. And then it takes me back to my love. Oh God. I mean, both. And I'm.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Yeah. And I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. But there are definitely. that become abusers in the industry as well. Do you think Usher is an abuser that was a victim? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:37 I don't have enough evidence to have a take on him. But I'm not afraid of being sued. No, it's okay. But like I certainly think that Usher was, let's say, greasing a couple poles in order to get to where he got. Yeah. And, you know, like nothing wrong with being gay. It's more like the problem is more like the people that are
Starting point is 00:50:00 exploiting that in the industry. Right. And forcing people to do it. And I'm just wondering about Justin, honestly. Like, did he have to do these things to get as big as he was? Because he's a super, he is super talented kid. Yeah. And it's been really heartbreaking to watch Justin lately.
Starting point is 00:50:15 He's been like putting in yourself crying and like talking about drug addict. Like drug addiction is the number one like indicator that someone has been operated on, so to speak. Because that's the first step is get him addicted to drugs and then start doing the blackmail stuff. And by the way, who did they take that? that page out of what book? Well, let's see. The government's done that for a very long time. They drug people to manipulate them and test the shit on them. I mean, and that's the reality is like the playbook is out there, right? I mean, the playbook is out there. We had a guy on our podcast a little
Starting point is 00:50:44 while back when we were talking about COVID, the pandemic and everything to happen with that. And I'll just say this. He's a he's a high level guy in the Department of Homeland Security. He actually came on our podcast. And he's over like 3,000 agents. And so he came on our podcast. But the conversation beforehand, which I won't necessarily go into 100%, but I will say that the conversation before the podcast was like when I saw the pandemic, I saw COVID, I knew because he was in the position of, what is it called, like warfare manipulation or psychological warfare or whatever that case is. And he said, so when I saw the COVID thing came out and I saw what was going on in the government, I knew that this was like they were taking a page out of our playbook. and he said, I knew it immediately. And this is a huge big time dude in the government now. And there are a lot of people starting to come out.
Starting point is 00:51:36 We've had people to reach out to us, listen to our podcast that are in the government. Now, they're either trying to set us up or they're trying to whistle blow. We're not sure 100%. You never really know is the problem. Yeah. And so some of the guys will be like, hey, I'll come on your podcast, but I can't say my name.
Starting point is 00:51:53 You got to make up a fake name. But then this guy, the guy I'm referred to, he's like, I don't care. I'll say my name. and he did. And so he kind of basically went on record with what he was saying. I was like, I mean, I'm very admirable, by the way. But I just think there's a lot of people, even in the intelligence agencies now, because you can't remember.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Oh, yeah. Most of the guys that signed up for the intelligence agencies at one time were patriotic Americans. They wanted to do good for their country. And now you have the system in place to where they put these positions of power over these guys. And they either have a job or they don't. And so whatever their narrative is, whatever their. agenda is, is what's going to prevail. It's not about what, how patriotic you are, but then it goes back to like Nazi Germany, where it's like, oh, we're just following orders. That's what people are
Starting point is 00:52:37 doing now. And when are people going to wake up? And because the reality is they'll just replace them anyway. They're going to replace the people that drop out or say, I can't do this. And they're going replace them of people that are definitely not qualified, probably. And it's just, that's the issue. And I think that's why we're in a lot of those shit we're in now. It's a really important distinction to make though because a lot of people especially online they like it like conspiracy theorists like to jump to like blanket conclusions blacks and whites like and so it's always like all of the CIA is evil all of that organization is the is the new world order all but it's like no it's not it's it's complicated and it's made out of individuals and actually the individuals in these agencies that have morals still
Starting point is 00:53:20 are probably some of the most important allies to win over to our cause and that was lower testimony it could be some of the most potentially, like that's how you get people like Jeffrey Epstein behind bars. That's how you get people like Diddy behind bars. And so it's important for us to remember the nuance of what's going on to remember that like we may have allies in all sorts of places. So what do you think is going to happen to Diddy? Do you think these lawsuits are going to go through? I know he's already settled some, right? Yeah, the two that are big that hit the news were civil suits.
Starting point is 00:53:49 And so he settled with Cassie, the girl in the video that he's beating. Right. He settled with her prior and she dropped the suit. was her friends that started talking about it, is my understanding. And then the one with a little Rod that came up more recently that started this hype cycle on him, that's still going through is my understanding. And those are not going to send him into jail. But what happened with the raid is clearly investigation on a criminal suit that would have been opened based upon the evidence brought by the other two.
Starting point is 00:54:17 And they have like a 95 or 98% conviction rate. Like they don't open a case unless they got it done. And they haven't. we don't know of them opening it yet. Like we've not had any public announcement of that case investigation. But my presumption would be that they're going to hang him out to dry. They're going to get all the evidence they need. They're going to put them away.
Starting point is 00:54:35 And then the tapes that he had are probably never going to come out. No, just like Epstein. Yeah. And by the way, I want to quickly play this because this is the last thing we'll play about Diddy. We're going to get on to UFOs in the second and Iranian president because those are probably the two most contentious topics, I guess, especially on X, right? I mean, you have people, and we'll get a little bit into Ashton as well and some of this other stuff with the UFO thing, but also the Iranian thing.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Obviously, that's very contentious. Well, but I want to play this. This is the clip. I just want everybody to see it. This is the clip of P. Diddy beaten the hell out of Cassie. So here you go. Contained exclusively by CNN appears to corroborate some of the allegations of abuse against music mogul, Sean Diddy Combs. The video, captured on multiple cameras, shows Combs assaulting his then-girlfriend Cassie Ventura in a hallway at a Los Angeles hotel in March 2016.
Starting point is 00:55:33 A lawsuit filed by Ventura in November last year and settled the next day, referenced actions that seem to match those seen in this video. There is no audio. According to the complaint, Combs became extremely intoxicated and punched Ms. Ventura in the face, giving her a blanche. black eye, which according to the lawsuit prompted Ventura to try and leave the hotel room. The surveillance video obtained by CNN begins as she enters the hallway. The complaint says as she exited, Mr. Combs awoke and began screaming at Miss Ventura. He followed her into the hallway of the hotel while yelling at her. The complaint goes on to say he grabbed her and then took glass vases in the hallway and threw them at her. In the surveillance video, Combs can be seen grabbing Ventura
Starting point is 00:56:22 in throwing her to the ground. As Ventura lies on the ground, Combs then kicks her twice and attempts to drag her on the floor back to the hotel room. Ventura is seen picking up a hotel phone. Combs seems to walk back to the hotel room, then returns and appears to shove her in a corner.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Moments later, he can be seen throwing an object in her direction. According to Ventura's now... So where to go? Do you... Like, why is he not in front? jail yet, Ian. What the hell's going on? It's so heartbreaking to look at the
Starting point is 00:56:56 Cassie story. Yeah. Because the really sad truth is that actually that is super tame compared to what is written in the lawsuit. And I read the whole thing and it just, and I I read it once and I had to kind of read part of it again for a video and I just
Starting point is 00:57:12 like put it down. I was like, I don't want to touch this anymore. It's gross to read. He's a evil human. And not to mention he's abusing her, but there is also in the lawsuit saying that he potentially murdered somebody and blew somebody's car up. I mean, there's all kinds of stuff coming out. A lot of it.
Starting point is 00:57:31 And that's only what's in these two lawsuits directly pertaining to these two people. And that's like just small snippets of his bigger life and the rest of the story. But, but yeah, why is he not in jail yet? You know, it's a pretty good window into how our society really works. And I feel pretty confident he will go to jail. I think he's getting hung out to dry on purpose. Like he had protection for, you know, 20 years and now it's gone. Why is it gone?
Starting point is 00:57:58 And I would assume that it's because he got so sloppy and was getting so known in the industry that he was becoming a liability more than an asset. And they've probably got other assets in the industry doing the exact same thing that are still undercover, that are still under wraps, that are way more professional about it. So I think they're just cutting him loose. By the way, have you been seeing the new consensus here, which is they're going after Diddy like this, but they ain't going after,
Starting point is 00:58:23 oh my God, Dana White. Dana White. Why are they not going after Dana White like they are Diddy? This has been coming up. I've been seen on social media. There's been people even reach out to us and say, and let me be honest with this. I think that they're trying to make it a race type deal when they're saying that.
Starting point is 00:58:43 But, I mean, you know, respectively, what is the difference? I mean, Dana White, I guess, was accused of potentially abuse and his wife, whatever. Obviously, there is a huge difference with who P.D.D.D.D. is is coming out as how bad this dude is versus, I guess, the allegations against Dana, right? Yeah, I think people have to be careful with the types of analogies they try to draw, because you kind of undermine your own point. If you're saying the white guy abused his wife, but the black guy who ran a sexual blackmail ring with underage women, drugs, prostitution, like killing, bombing of cars,
Starting point is 00:59:17 is like those are not the same. But if Dana White is running a blackmail ring, then that's a big deal. And that'd be wild as hell. And I don't think he is. I've not seen any evidence that he is at all. I would not be surprised if he's done some horrible things to his wife. Too many men in this world are,
Starting point is 00:59:35 let's say have allowed shitty parts of themselves to become parts of themselves. And that's fucking their problem that they need to solve and that they answer for. And obviously people like Dana White in the fight. fighting community are in no way immune to that problem. But it is also not apples to apples. And people should be careful about the comparisons. They try to draw just to make a point because sometimes you undermine your own point by kind of looking like you're pandering. Yeah. And it's kind of interesting too because the Me Too movement, for example, there was so much shit that came out of the Me Too movement that so many people didn't believe, right?
Starting point is 01:00:10 I mean, it was just like, this is a cool thing to do and let's be a Me Too. Now, I'm not saying that every one of those Me Too movement allegations were incorrect. But I'm glad that they're getting the ditty thing right, right? I'm glad that everyone's on board with this and say, hey, here's the evidence, here's the reality of this. And we got to put a stop this shit because, I mean, this is what could go on. And you're right, Ian,
Starting point is 01:00:32 I think, I think in general people have to take responsibility for themselves. Both men and there are definitely women out there that, you know, abuse and do the same shit. But, you know, you got to take responsibility for yourself. We should pause on the Me Too movement thing for just a second because it's a return of the same idea we've been talking about. Me Too movement is a social phenomenon that starts to gain traction and it has a lot of power to threaten powerful people, right?
Starting point is 01:01:00 And so immediately what we all need to learn to be looking for as citizens is we need to be looking for subversion of that movement because it threatens powerful people like the Harvey Weinstein's, Jeffrey Epstein's in the world. And so the first thing that we should be looking for is for bad actors being put into the scene. in order to discredit the movement, and then for other types of subversion. And then we should be wondering why people that are clearly associated with Epstein are like, oh, me too is so great. And we believe all the women, but like we don't actually do anything when we have the whole Jeffrey Epstein thing. So it's like that is another one that strikes me as like a genuine movement that quickly
Starting point is 01:01:34 got subverted and swept away and under sure. Absolutely. No, I, I 100% agree. Ian, there's a lot of people in the chat there. It's talking about where, when are we getting the UFOs? And by the way, guys, I want to ask one more question. And this is a question. I don't even remember these names, but I got to ask this question.
Starting point is 01:01:54 What is the deal? It has to do with rap. What is it deal with the two rappers wrapping all this stuff about getting each other? Drake and. Yes. Oh, right now. Yeah. That's an interesting one.
Starting point is 01:02:06 It's, I mean, it's a, I don't follow enough to know. I'm not educated in this part of the world. But it's a beef that's been going on for a while of who's the greatest rapper alive. and then they're i'm i'm curious if any of it is connected in any way to ditty type situations in the rap industry or not um but i don't know there was a drive by shooting at the guy's house yeah at drake's house there was by the way we don't know anything about that as of right now right we don't know if they've connected that in any way to what what's the other guy's name oh my god um Kendrick lamar right yes yes yes yes yes yes that's terrible but kendrick lamar made some very very stark allegations against drake saying he likes them young he likes i mean he's trying to push the narrative of pedophilia essentially um and i think drake i wouldn't come out past drake honestly but i don't know yeah you don't know i mean you know he
Starting point is 01:02:56 but isn't he isn't his nickname lover boy or is that that was ditties as well but they have yeah they've all got some nicknames and they certainly run in the same crowds like i would honestly if i had to bet like today if i had to bet like today if i had to bet the odds on Drake being involved in some way or not, I would bet on him being involved. Yeah. The way he came to power, the way he came to fame, the type of person he is, it seems to be, like the type of rap that he has promoted throughout his career, I would put the odds on him being involved in some way.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Now, I'm going to make a very, before we get to the UFO thing, I have to talk about this with you for a second. Taylor Swift and. Yeah, and old Travis Kelsey. Now, we've never actually covered this on our podcast. but I'm going to take this opportunity right now to cover Travis Kelsey, Taylor Swift. So you have Taylor Swift, which is arguably probably the biggest superstar music artist in the world. I'm talking about you look back at Michael Jackson, you look back at people like this.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Taylor Swift is maybe on that level, if not maybe even bigger or probably will be at some point. And then you have you have Travis Kelsey, which is a, you know, he is a tied in for the Kansas City Chiefs. He is going into a Super Bowl. He has all of this stuff going for him. These two get together. But right as this is happening, you have Travis Kelsey that is promoting Pfizer. So Pfizer, sponsored by Pfizer guys.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Everyone pay attention to Travis Kelsey. Everyone pay attention because he is with Taylor Swift. And now he's sponsoring Pfizer. Yeah. And it's just when they got together, wasn't it? Pretty much. I mean, it was almost exactly the same time. Yes, it was.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Do you feel like this relationship? I mean, obviously we don't know, but do you feel like this relationship could be a coordinated effort from the, what Peter McCullough, we've had Dr. Peter McCullough on our podcast a couple times. Peter McCullough calls it the biofarmaceutical complex. So many of you might have heard of the military industrial complex. Well, you have a bio pharmaceutical complex, which in a lot of ways actually has more power over the government and what the government regulations and legislation is than even. even the military industrial complex. So you look at the situation with Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey, Super Bowl, huge numbers that Taylor Swift is doing on tour, like during this time.
Starting point is 01:05:25 I mean, the biggest numbers. Yeah. Was this a coordinated effort to push further this global vaccine that they want to inject everybody with? And by the way, Ian, I have no idea what your beliefs are on the vaccine, but I didn't take it. And I'm so glad I did not. I'm happy to talk about that more in the future, too.
Starting point is 01:05:42 but but yeah this this specifically like i think yeah obviously um i i doubt there's a lot of love in there anyways and i bet there's a lot of profit in there but the the deeper conspiracy theory that's a lot of fun that i is kind of tinfoil that i don't know about is actually the NFL conspiracy about the NFL being not technically the way it's like legally structured um and i could be getting some of the details wrong here but my understanding is that it's structured in a way that it's like a it is not a sporting organization. It's like a... Like a private government or something?
Starting point is 01:06:19 It's run in a way where legally it's not required to be... It is allowed to be entertainment like the WWF and WWE, not like FIFA is a sporting organization. And so technically my understanding is that the legal framework surrounding the NFL would allow them legally to rig the games and to plan the outcomes. And so there's a whole like... rabbit hole of conspiracy theories around that.
Starting point is 01:06:42 That is a pretty cool dig for people that want to get deep with their tinfoil. And I don't know about that one. But then you look at the Super Bowl and you look at the way the Chiefs won and you look at the odds before they went. And you look at the hype and you're just like, okay, I mean, like, I got some questions. And then Pfizer. Pfizer. Yeah. And definitely my question is not should I take a Pfizer vaccine because we are, I already, I've already got my answer on that.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Yeah, I love Aaron Rogers now. regardless of whatever. He took his neck out in line. And by the way, Nicole says, already have pots now. And I'm guessing that she said, I took the shot. I'll keep you all updated.
Starting point is 01:07:25 Already have pots now. And by the way, pots, just for people that don't know, is postural orthostatic ticcardia syndrome. And that's very prevalent now with the vaccine. And there's so many things coming out about the vaccine. Well,
Starting point is 01:07:37 and the turbo cancers are. out, you know, outrageous right now. Yeah, absolutely. It's young people. Heart attacks. Yeah. It's crazy, dude. All right.
Starting point is 01:07:45 So let's get into UFOs because we're seeing UFO chance in the chat. So. Yeah, we're about to go deep down a vaccine rabbit hole too. So yeah, we were. But we're going to be fine. We'll be, we're going to get through this. So here we go. I want to start this, this little series that we're about to do.
Starting point is 01:08:03 I want to start it with a clip. Now, many of you may have seen this clip, but we have to break this clip. down the end because I think this will be a good place to start with the UFO phenomenon. And probably in this clip, we're going to talk a little bit about Ashton Forbes because I want to highlight what Tucker Carlson said on Joe Rogan when he talked about the injuries and deaths from U.S. service members of whatever their interactions were with these craft of whatever they are, right?
Starting point is 01:08:33 Yep. So let's get into this real quick. And then we will talk about it. Here you go. U.S. servicemen have died as a result of contact with or being the proximity of these vehicles. And we know that because there are a lot of suits working their way through the VA system. Yeah. Where families, you know, can't get compensated for the deaths or injuries to loved ones.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Because it's all underwraps top secret. Well, that's just a fact, okay, that that is happening. So if there's, I guess, you know, when there are measurable physical effects of a phenomenon, we can say conclusively the phenomenon is real. Right. And so, yeah. I mean, it is. I mean, I guess we're sort of past the point of like, is it real? Yeah, it's real.
Starting point is 01:09:23 It's real in that there's these things that are moving in very bizarre ways and they have these propulsion systems that violate what we know about propulsion systems. and we know that there is a real effort and has been underway for a long time to to keep the public from knowing about it. But that's all known. That's established. I don't think any rational person would deny that. The question is like, what is it actually? I mean, now is sort of the point you have to ask, like, what is this?
Starting point is 01:09:58 And, you know, so that's how much what do you think is ours? Well, none of it's ours. None of it. Well, I don't know. I mean, clearly, you know, the U.S. government is huge. It's the largest human organization. I think there are two million federal employees and another 10 million federal contractors, so who are effectively government employees but don't have civil service protection, for example. So that's 12 million people in a country of 340 million working for the federal government. So it's kind of hard to overstate how big the federal government is and how well funded. And so to say the government, this, the government that. No, of course, it's people within the government. But yeah, they're working on all kinds of things, obviously, that are classified. But in general, no, they can't control these objects. So, no, it's not American technology.
Starting point is 01:10:55 Well, or Russian or Chinese. It predates, you know, all of that. Well, some of it does, right? Like for sure the Kenneth Arnold sightings that was really early on. It was like the early 1950s. He was seeing these flying saucers, these disks that were moving over mountains. Well, right. I mean, the prophet Ezekiel writes about it in the first chapter, wheels in the sky. Yeah, that's a crazy one.
Starting point is 01:11:20 Well, it is crazy. If you read it, it's like, oh, wow. Yeah. And not just, you know, the Hebrew scriptures, like it's all over every. The Vedic text. Of course. So these are spiritual phenomenon. There's no evidence there from another planet. I mean, I think that's the op. That's the lie that they're from Mars. Look, space, the atmosphere is really well monitored, right? Both for military, for defense reasons, but also because it would be nice to know when asteroids are coming. And there's no evidence has never been any evidence that are lots of these objects, these vehicles coming into our atmosphere from somewhere else, some other planet. There's no evidence of that at all. And that is 100% true, by the way.
Starting point is 01:12:04 I mean, well, the last part at the very least. We're going to break down this video first. And then we're going to show you guys some very recent videos of UFO sightings, which I think you guys will find pretty amazing. But Ian, can't wait to get your opinion on this because here's the thing. So the very last party says that there's no evidence of any of these craft or things coming from outer space. Or being ours. Yeah, or being ours necessarily.
Starting point is 01:12:29 But at the very least, let's just break it down from here. We don't have at least that we know of. We do not have evidence that these things have come from outer space. Typically, what we're seeing is these things are coming from the oceans or basically out of thin air. And so with that being said, it somewhat takes the logic out of, are these craft we're seeing and our skies coming from another planet? obviously the amount of satellites and technology we have in our low Earth orbit is insane. I mean, the amount of technology the United States has just to be able to see any and everything
Starting point is 01:13:10 that all governments around the world are doing is unprecedented. It is something that would below people's minds. And I think Ashton Forbes talks a little bit about this with the satellite and the Merset data and how all this stuff's connected. But let's just first talk about this. He says, Tucker says, that there is no way that this is technology that any of us harness. No way. Let's get to that.
Starting point is 01:13:39 What do you think? We've got to talk about like the reverse technology. Absolutely. But what do you think about his claim? Very bold claim is Joe says how much of this technology is ours. And Tucker says none of it. I think that it seems highly likely that we have. are reverse engineering parts of it.
Starting point is 01:13:59 And we're obviously not going to reverse engineer it correctly the way that it actually exists in original form. But I think it's highly likely that we have some forms of reverse engineer crafts that can approximate parts of it. And even if we don't, I think it's really important for us to operate from the assumption that we might because if you're looking at like the project blue beam ability of the whole idea, then the most important thing for us to keep tabs on is the, the government having access to this stuff and using it against us and telling us that it's an alien or
Starting point is 01:14:32 telling us it's something right and so it's a really high consequences mistake if we think they don't have it and they do whereas if we think they don't if we think they do have it and they don't it's like oh well we'll investigate deeper but i think it would be foolish for us to just assume that the government can't possibly have reverse engineered this kind of stuff because like we have some crazy technology these days that is publicly disclosed, let alone what's not publicly disclosed. And I think that Ashton gives a really strong case for why we might have some of it that is actually, and beyond that, there's a lot of whistleblowers, like a lot of whistleblowers talking about reverse engineering programs.
Starting point is 01:15:10 Like that's basically what every whistleblower is talking about. And so I'm inclined to believe that that is a body of evidence to support that we have reverse engineering programs that have some degree of success. I'm sure they're not nearly the same as the original thing. And I think you're right. I think we do have these programs, but I think the problem is, is some of these things we're trying to reverse engineer. We don't have the materials on Earth that they used.
Starting point is 01:15:34 Not to mention, perhaps we don't have the psychic abilities that are requisite technology or something like that, too. So, Ian, with Ashton Forbes thing, obviously we were the first, by the way, we were the first podcast at Ashton. We're very proud of that. We've broke ground on that. Yeah, we did. And a lot of our listeners like, hey,
Starting point is 01:15:53 I've seen this Ashton guy. I think Ashton maybe had, I don't know, like a 1,500 followers at this point or whatever it was. But the first time he was pretty mean to us. No, no. He wasn't mean to us. But Ashton came on. He's like, I don't trust you guys. And I don't even know what to do with this information.
Starting point is 01:16:10 And so I was like, and I was like, Ashton, where do you live? I was just trying to ask like, you know, basic shit. How is your dog? And he's like, I live just, just say I live in America. I'm like, okay. Whatever. good. That's funny.
Starting point is 01:16:23 I mean, he's right to be concerned, but it's funny how he was like really fresh to the game at that point. Yeah. Even like extra concerned, which is good. But he had this total disclaimer in the beginning. And then when I asked him,
Starting point is 01:16:38 could it be UFOs? He's like, no way. No way. Yeah. And then he's, you know, since his research has come out,
Starting point is 01:16:44 he's seen it could be something like that. But now he's playing it on their government. Yeah. Do you think that the videos are real? Ian? The MHC70 videos? Yeah. I think that I lean towards more likely real than not.
Starting point is 01:16:59 And part of that is my, I have a bias in general to if something benefits really powerful people in one direction and it only benefits regular people in the other direction, I'm going to tend to skew towards the regular people one because the powerful people obviously will always have so many more resources to undermine things, to discredit things, to try to vilify things. So that's my general bias,
Starting point is 01:17:23 but also the research that Ashton has done and the way he's engaged with a lot of the debunkers, I think it's highly likely that they are real videos. And also when you look at the bigger context, it's like, in order for them to not be true, you have to believe that that's not possible and that we couldn't have that, that technology couldn't exist,
Starting point is 01:17:39 that and I think that that is a kind of a narrow-minded way to look at the world these days, based on the sum total of all the evidence in every direction. Yeah. And by the way, I want to say this on the stream right now because there's been so many people with Ashton. Ashton's been our podcast probably five times. I love Ashton. And he's like, he's like our, we protect Ashton because we love Ashton.
Starting point is 01:18:03 Yeah. When those debunkers started trying to get him and, you know, get him on the podcast, oh, God, it made me so mad. Yeah, it made Cherry very mad. But, you know, I had offered Ashton some money at some point. I think it was like the third or fourth episode and he didn't take it. And so with the people that are like, he's a grifter, he's trying to make money, he's not. And he's not making shit on X either. Like X doesn't say, well, zero.
Starting point is 01:18:28 And he's on there every day. Yeah, he's making zero on X. He's making nothing on YouTube. And the reality of this is this is his life. And so I just want to call this out there right now because the UFO community, which he has kind of had to defend himself against. That's just be real. I mean, the X, the UFO community has had, he's had. to defend himself against that because obviously there's a there's an agenda there's a narrative from
Starting point is 01:18:53 the ufo community on exodus like oh no all this has to be UFOs and then ashen just calling out the reality of what he believes based on all which by the way ashen is i think who was the guy that said on joe rogen podcast he was talking about ashen and called him autistic autistic i think it was jeremy the like known cia plant in the industry i'm going to get his name wrong jeremy uh corbell corbell right To me, that's a compliment. Yeah. Yeah. Jeremy always gave me weird vibes.
Starting point is 01:19:24 Yeah. I could be wrong about him. I mean, like Jeremy seems like a perfectly legitimate, what lovely human being. But it's like, I mean, if Joe needs to talk to anyone right now, Joe needs to talk to Ashton. Like Joe Rogan would love that conversation. Oh, absolutely. That's exactly his type of evidence-based, like real look at the facts that builds on the sum total of what we understand. It's like right up to his alley.
Starting point is 01:19:47 Maybe Joe should do something. with Ashton like this. You remember how he had the, he had Graham Hancock on recently and the other guy, the other guy that was completely against him. Oh,
Starting point is 01:19:57 yeah. The one they talked about his dad all the time. Yeah, that's what he should do. He should have whoever the biggest opponent is of Ashton and have them both on and then let the public consensus kind of prevail on that. And I think, I think we get so past the public consensus.
Starting point is 01:20:14 Like there's one thing I know about X and this is why I love X is that the public consensus will prevail. And it will, whatever the truth is will come out. And it will be known. And it will be pushed and it'll be publicized and it'll be promoted by the people. Yeah, free speech always prevails. I mean, often it's, I was actually just talking about this on an interview earlier of like, yeah, there are there are downsides to the decentralized media space and to the free speech space where like we can get things wrong.
Starting point is 01:20:42 We don't have an authority figure to tell us what to believe. But like, man, I'll take the downsides of. the decentralized free speech media space over the centralized controlled media space every single time. No matter. Absolutely. Ian, do you think what is your thoughts briefly on UFOs?
Starting point is 01:20:59 And by the way, while you're thinking about UFOs, UAPs, but we're specifically talking about interdimensional craft. And I want to say interdimensional craft because we often think about you know, we often think about UFOs as coming from another planet or whatever the case
Starting point is 01:21:15 may be. Oh, sorry. Yeah, exactly. It's not that. No, that wasn't you. That was me making a sound effect for my... Oh, okay. No, I'm literally trying to pull this video up and then I was like, what in the hell? I just did. It was Ian. So anyways, Ian, watch this video.
Starting point is 01:21:36 I want you guys to watch this video and tell me just your thoughts on this. This is... This video is... Let me make sure I know where this is from. This video is from a UAP and Bend, Oregon. So here you go. It's very very strange, right? It looks weird.
Starting point is 01:22:01 I don't know. This one I don't think does, but interesting. I haven't seen this yet. Yeah, this has been Dorgan. There was quite a few videos on this. That's not even as good as what we've seen. No, but then we're going to go to another one. We're going to go to this is a pilot encounter.
Starting point is 01:22:21 We'll talk about this briefly here too as well. So this is a pilot encounter. He's flying. I think he flies. This could be a Boeing. I'll tell you right now in a second. It's Boeing. Watch this.
Starting point is 01:22:46 Yep, that's definitely something. And by the way, this pilot, this pilot has, you know, there was a lot of stuff that came out about this. This video blew up. The pilot officially in a DM somewhere said that, well, we think it was a balloon because, you know, we've seen this stuff before. And my immediate thought on this was, yeah, this is probably very, you know, it's potentially, he just wants to save his career because if you're a pilot. Yeah, you can't report anything. Yeah, if you're a pilot is.
Starting point is 01:23:17 You're thinking you're crazy. Yeah. Here's another video. This video is, we're just going to play all the videos. Three orb UFO seen flying information. This video was used in promotional material for Tom Dolong's secret machines. Obviously, a blink 182 guy that has the two to stars academy. But we'll, let's play this video.
Starting point is 01:23:35 Do you notice they fly in triangle formation? I mean, look at that. That's crazy. I mean, like footage like that is crazy. And I'm not saying that that can't be our technology, but whatever. Okay. So now let's also go to NASCA Peru. Now, Ian, do you know anything about NASCA, the NASCA mummies, the aliens?
Starting point is 01:24:12 Yeah, do you know a little bit about that. NASCA lines, all that. Yeah, yeah. So this is the NASCAR mummies or not, sorry, the NASCAR mummies. Maybe this is how they got here. Who knows? But this is in Peru. This was on May 16, 2024.
Starting point is 01:24:29 And this is when they are using lasers to try to call these things out in the mountains of Peru. Peru is very, for whatever reason, Peru is, has tons of encounters with UFOs, UAPs. This is what they saw. And just check it out. Yeah, yes, it was. Yes, it was. There's a good Yes,
Starting point is 01:24:51 See, She's Forescent There's the first one And look You see another one Coming up here To left
Starting point is 01:25:01 Two others Triangle Four Five That's That's cool They're thanking it I know
Starting point is 01:25:15 They're like Yes CC gross yes Thank you Mind to be of Stephen Greer a little bit
Starting point is 01:25:21 Yeah. Wow. Wow. Wait, wait, wait. Look how it's bright enough as they. I don't know. That's a omnia. Oh,
Starting point is 01:25:34 let what be. Let's what come. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 01:25:43 Chad, you're not translating. I don't know this. See how it comes in and out. Look at how comes in and out, kind of. Thank you. Thank you. Goodbye. That's cool.
Starting point is 01:25:57 I mean, you can hear that their take on it is way more like, thanks for interacting with us. Yes. Like they see, obviously they culturally, they are way more used to people seeing these things. Yeah. So, Ian, what do you think about? Okay, first of all, let me ask you this question because I think we have to ask this question. What is your religious beliefs? Do you believe in God?
Starting point is 01:26:20 Oh, gosh. Yeah. I'm coming. I'm actually sort of like a new convert to God, not in like a Christian belief, so to speak, but more in like a omni-religious belief in the sense that, yeah, I'm having a very deep spiritual 2024. Yeah, we are too. And I've very much come to believe in like the one God that's in within all of us that that sees through us out into the world that is always a part of us. And I think that applies perfectly well to the Christian God as well as to the God of most other religions. And I'm, most interested in the source religions that sort of were the original text that informed the text, that informed the text that informed the text we all read now, which is why I'm also a total nerd about ancient history conspiracy theories, like ancient Egypt and ancient civilization conspiracy theories, because I want to know where all these beliefs came from.
Starting point is 01:27:08 Yeah. I'm right there with you. So do you believe that these could be religion? Do you believe that these could be spiritual in nature? I mean, let's just be real. Like, think about Stephen Greer, right? you have Stephen Greer on X recently, and he posted something that a lot of people
Starting point is 01:27:25 just kind of went crazy about. And I get why, because Stephen Greer, Dr. Stephen Greer in particular, he had this post, and I'll show you guys the post, and I'll read this, and I kind of want you guys' opinion on this, what this means. Dr. Stephen Greer says, the entity which controls the UFO matter has more power than any single government in the world
Starting point is 01:27:48 or any single adult. identified world leader. This cabal is a hybrid, quasi-government, quasi-privatized operation, which is international and functions outside of the purview of single agency or any government. What do you think he means there, Ian? I mean, is he saying something like along the lines of Ashton's stuff? Or is he saying? Because obviously, Stephen Greer has been very big in the UFO space.
Starting point is 01:28:17 obviously he has the CE5 event for people that don't know what CE5 is it is essentially a get together or a gathering to where they go out in in different various places whether it be the desert or the mountaintops or whatever and Tim Burchett actually congressman Tim Burchett commented on this event he said I think what they're doing out here on the CE5 events is almost like a seance or a demonic type event right to where they are some summoning these craft or these beings or whatever they are. And look, there's a lot of evidence to show that Stephen Greer's CE5 events where they're going out there and they have 50 people or whatever,
Starting point is 01:28:58 these things show up. And by the way, you saw that Peru video we just watched. These things showed up. And I think it has to do with telepathy. Is that how you say it? Yeah, telepathy or whatever. But what does that mean if these things are showing up based on your mindset and your like weird,
Starting point is 01:29:16 almost like seance craziness stuff like what does that mean to you Ian well there's there's sort of two answers here and the first one is easy is to Stephen Greer's post what he's talking about is like what most people call the deep state and and most people think of it as like a like there's different versions of it but it's like come on it's like intelligence agencies and like the richest bankers in the world the you know the military industrial complex all of these groups have people at the top And those people at the top have always been collectively working together to, to, I don't know, smuggle drugs from Vietnam or smuggle drugs from Nicaragua into the United States or human traffic or all, like all sorts of things. You know, Epstein's network.
Starting point is 01:30:03 And in those groups, there are groups in those groups. And if there is recovered technology, which seems pretty likely, then that is quickly scuttled away into the most powerful secretive places ever and classified. And so he's just talking about the the sort of like multinational, multi-disciplinary cabal of the most powerful people that have compartmentalized that information in and then privatize that research. And most people don't know about it. I think that's obvious and legit. I think that would be a no-brainer of a truth, even if there's no alien technology involved, even if you're just talking about the global peak of military technology, that would also be a. somewhat similar kind of cabal conspiracy of the top scientists and spies of the, you know, Western nations or whoever it is.
Starting point is 01:30:54 So I think that's what he's talking about. And what's your second part? Yeah, as to the CE5 stuff and the, have you guys read the Kona Blue documents at all? Yes. Yeah. So in the Kona Blue documents, which are released by Homeland Security, which are, you know, take and relieve them. Tucker references them in that same Joe Rogan episode.
Starting point is 01:31:13 and he says that he has government sources that also corroborated them. And they directly talk about the crafts being controlled by psychic interface. And the CIA has a very long history. The Kona Blue documents are all filled with talking about remote viewers and remote access technology and psychic like transportation and information gathering and stuff. They even talk about transporting matter across space and time barriers. And so the way I see it is to me, if I like, if I rewind 10 years to like who I've always been, I'd be like, that's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:31:48 That's not how the world. That's ridiculous. Like, and I come from like a hippie town where like, you know, like I've done psychedelics. Like I get it. But at the same time, I would have been like, come on, man. Like, like, really? Right. But, you know, how many, you know, how many millions of dollars is the CIA going to spend on hiring
Starting point is 01:32:05 remote viewers before I'm like, okay, I mean, maybe the CIA knows something that I don't. Just because I can't remote view doesn't mean. that the CIA is spending millions of dollars on nothing. And if you put all those pieces together of crafts controlled by psychic ability, remote viewers involved in all these programs, everything about it speaks to interdimensionality of consciousness, which is like a really cool place to go and let your mind go there, it starts to make a lot of sense that what Stephen Greer is actually like smeared for
Starting point is 01:32:35 about this E5 stuff, he's probably on to something because these are probably beings that have some sort of psychic interface with the universe that we don't understand. and we probably are communicating with them mostly telepathically and mostly through a remote viewing. I totally agree with you because I swear to God, and most of the people on our podcast know, I have some kind of psychic something or something. Some people say it's the devil or whatever, but I have this thing where it's followed me
Starting point is 01:33:01 my whole life. And if you either have it or you don't, but because I do have it, I have seen things, you know, that are not natural or from this world. talking about like even spirits, orbs in our house, orbs outside. Orbs in this house. There's an orbs in this house.
Starting point is 01:33:19 I've been surrounded by, I've actually been surrounded by orbs. There are red orbs. And Jake said that that might not be good orbs. Yeah, he said that might not be good. Jake knows. He's like,
Starting point is 01:33:32 if they're red, it was not good. But we have videos of these orbs surrounding me. And I think that you have to, you have to put, have your mind out there. to experience these kind of things because Chad and I can go out a lot and see these exactly what was on the video.
Starting point is 01:33:49 We see these things. We've actually seen these orbs. It'd be one orb and it breaks up into like three. Yeah, I want to tell a quick story. And you can kind of give your thoughts on this, Ian. But two years ago, we were pretty heavily in the UFO topic. We were talking a lot about UFOs and UAPs and we've always kind of done on our podcast. We do that a lot.
Starting point is 01:34:11 And we, but Sherry and I are always the people that go outside, man. We like to go outside and we're also the people that like to take our shoes off. We want to ground ourselves in nature and like just get our feet on the ground. Get your own residence. Yeah, yeah, the Schumann residence, the Earth's heartbeat. This is what we like to do. I love that. And I know we sound like hippies, but the reality is like I've never been one of those people until you start really understanding how the frequencies work on Earth and how everything is kind of
Starting point is 01:34:41 connected to Earth's heartbeat, which is a human resonance, and how much similarities with the frequencies of the Earth's Earth's heartbeat and your brain waves and your heart waves, the frequencies that are using or being used in your heart, in your brain, those are all pretty much almost the same frequency waves as the Earth's heartbeat. And so we had went outside one night, and this was the craziest thing we've experienced. We went outside one night. We were in the backyard, and we were sitting by our pond. We were laying on our thing. We were just looking up in the sky and we started seeing these white like very similar to the videos you guys just saw a minute ago we started seeing these white orb things and so you know how you can
Starting point is 01:35:21 look you can see satellites that are passing over right i mean those little white little lights that are past over the yeah the little micro dots but these things look like they were in our atmosphere because they were a little bigger um they they looked more um blurry like like a bigger fusion type weird thing. And then not long after that, we saw fighter jets, which I've been in aviation for like 14, 15 years. Yeah, I've been in aviation for a very long time. Sherry and I also have an aviation channel.
Starting point is 01:35:53 We do a lot of marketing videos for jets and whatever. But these jets were from Dover. It's not even the same state that we live in. No, yeah, yeah. Dover. It was really weird. Dover, Delaware, I believe. Yes.
Starting point is 01:36:05 Because they actually showed up on flight radar, which is crazy. Yeah. And so we had looked at these jets when we're, seeing these things, and there were F-16s, and you could, you could barely hear them, but you could see the little red lights way up there. And it was almost like they were chasing. Yeah, it was like they were in chase to these things. And so these things were moving pretty straight, but then they would like kind of curve and go off to the left. And that's how immediately you know, that's not a satellite. Yeah, it's definitely not a satellite. So then some of these things started coming over,
Starting point is 01:36:33 and this was happening for what 30 minutes, right? So finally, we have this, this two or three orbs that kind of come over. And as these orbs come over, bro, they morph into one, I think it was. Yeah, and then they broke out. And then at the very end of where we could see it, they broke out in three.
Starting point is 01:36:53 And like, it was crazy. The craziness that happened. And let me tell you this, when these freaking things broke out in three orbs, our car alarm went off. Our neighbors car alarm went off. There was four other car alarms in our neighborhood that went off. And we had a radiation
Starting point is 01:37:10 detector at the time. And we were like checking things up. Well, I ran in the house because as this shit was happening, I was like, Yeah, we got to see what the radiation is. A Geiger counter. Did you get to see what it was? Well, it was off the charts, the radiation. And in my opinion, I think the radiation was what was causing the signals in our car alarms
Starting point is 01:37:30 to go off. But it was, it was nuts. We ran outside. I yelled at Sherry. I said, why are all the car alarms going? Like, this is crazy. I literally felt like I was going crazy. It was so exciting.
Starting point is 01:37:43 Listen, I've done gummies before. I was not doing any gummies of this night. This was legit as shit. I mean, gummies don't make car alarms go off. No, it doesn't. I mean, maybe. You've been like really strong asses. It doesn't make car alarms go off.
Starting point is 01:37:54 But this type of thing makes me so excited when you can actually see these things in the sky. And we do see them quite often. But listen, you could get, I mean, listen, you could do enough gummies to where you are actually breaking in vehicles in your neighborhood. and you don't realize that and all these car alarms are going on. I'm going to presume you weren't doing that. I mean,
Starting point is 01:38:14 I think that that sounds like an awful lot, like all the other stories that everyone else tells too, right? And when everyone is telling the same stories from different places without, like, like, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:26 Come on. I mean, come on. I know. So tell me, what do you think about as far as the interdimensional part of this? Do you think they're interdimensional?
Starting point is 01:38:35 Do you think they're from, you know, our solar system? and they just come into our atmosphere. What do you think it is? And can I add to that question? Because Ian, you said that you're kind of getting more to God, right? So, and listen, I don't know what that means like biblically or anything for you.
Starting point is 01:38:51 But what I will say is that there's something as sharing. And by the way, we're probably going to get our last topic of the night is hopefully not going to be contentious because I listen. I want to say this because we're going to talk about Iran, right? Oh, bring on the contention. Yeah. No, but there was our listeners when I said, Ian Carroll is coming on and we're talking about this. We had listeners that said, oh, yeah, Chad, well, you're, you pro-Zionist.
Starting point is 01:39:16 I'm like, first of all, I'm not pro-freaking Zionist. Me and him that fight all the time about it. But Sherry's Jewish. Sherry's Jewish, right? And I am 100% probably more on your side on that whole situation. But regardless. I come from a Jewish family. I'm not really any religion.
Starting point is 01:39:32 Yeah. But anyways, so when we were talking about this, I said, you know, the whole entire situation with everything that's going on, everything seems very nuanced today. It's like there's not always a clear answer to anything. But what is your belief as far as the Bible goes and, you know, think about this. Just ask him the question about interdimensional. I am, but it goes back to that.
Starting point is 01:39:58 Yeah, it's kind of tied together. Yeah, they are. In the Bible, there was Moses, the burning bush. There was all of these various sightings and things and miracles and all this stuff in the sky and and all of this. Do you think that was connected to UFO, UAP phenomenon, interdimituality? I mean, do you feel like that this, what we're seeing in the sky? Do you feel like it's connected to God? Like if, I mean, that's the biggest question I think.
Starting point is 01:40:25 I think if anyone can answer that question, they would be a multibillionary now. I personally, I think there's kind of two answers here. And one is that me personally, what I'm talking about, when I'm talking about God is not connected to you AP phenomenon. Because it's just connected to the fact that your soul is what witnesses you your whole life. And we are all conscious, we're all a part of this universal. Like my belief in God is more connected to like your own inner being, your own ideal self being your own God and being a representation of like every,
Starting point is 01:40:56 the ideal of everything. And I think that that's a thread. that strings through all religions, irrespective of the mythology that surrounds religions, when you start to talk about the events that are recorded in books like the Bible, that's where you start to be overlaying mythology that is, in that case, ascribed to the will of God and the happenings thereafter. And I think that that's where you could make the argument
Starting point is 01:41:25 that that might be talking about UAP phenomenon in some forms. But I don't really worry about it too much. sense that like there are supernatural things that have happened all throughout history and all sorts of places and times and certainly there seems to be a certain like epicenter of supernatural stuff that was recorded in the biblical scriptures and the all of the sort of like Abrahamic religions seem to tell a specific point in time when there was a lot of stuff happening but I don't really have any way personally to know other than like faith and belief if that was a genuinely more special and like God-filled time
Starting point is 01:42:03 or if it was just their beliefs made it feel more God-filled at the time and so they wrote that to be the most like important time there was but then you like go to other cultures around the world and they have myths that could just as easily be UAP phenomenon interpreted as God or as non-UAP phenomenon
Starting point is 01:42:19 that are like godly phenomena it's just like I don't read too much into the happenings in the mythology because how am I gonna know? Like I don't know and I've never been one to believe a book just because it was in the book in the first place I want to like see evidence. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:34 And so where I get most interested is kind of correlating all of them together to just notice that they all talk about similar myths, especially flood myths. Like this is where we're getting kind of Graham Hancock stuff. And that's where I get really curious about like ancient civilizations that might have happened before said flood and how a lot of the myths about the things that used to happen before that flood tell kind of similar supernatural stories. And that's where I think we are, it's not unlikely that. UAP phenomenon and maybe interdimensional beings are overlapping with stories about God.
Starting point is 01:43:08 Because if you lived in a world where these beings were here with us, I mean, what else would you call them? Yeah. But because we now live in a world where we don't have them like here with us right now, so to speak, I think that there's another relationship to God that is sort of true for most religious people, irrespective of that whole phenomenon. is like, I don't think that most Christians are like thinking about how they're like worshipping aliens at all. I think they would think that's kind of sacrilegious to even talk about.
Starting point is 01:43:36 And I think that that's the kind of the part of God that I'm trying to connect with more is like the universal human God of just like the righteousness that's within all of us that you know is right. You believe in yourself. And the wrongness that is outside of us that would corrupt us that we know when you see it, that's the spirituality that I'm trying to connect to. Yes. But I do think that it's pretty likely that a lot of the ancient scriptures,
Starting point is 01:43:57 especially the ones that are more ancient than the Bible, too, that it was based on those ancient stories, they sound an awful lot like UAP phenomenon to me. Do you, okay, so with kind of your stance on God and aliens and all that, do you feel like that, I could ask you a very weird question, which would be what do you think? Well, like, what do you think happens when you die? But I guess before I ask that question,
Starting point is 01:44:24 do you feel like, because I feel like the, more we've done this podcast and more you've researched stuff. I feel like that frequencies and radio frequencies and like even probably maybe what we're seeing with UFOs has something to do with frequency. Very similar. Let me break it down just in a weird way. Think about Wi-Fi, for example. You have Wi-Fi in your house. You have a modem. You have your little thing. And right here, this laptop, right? We're not connected to no internet. You see this laptop. But we are receiving this entire signal and we don't see it. We don't see it whatsoever.
Starting point is 01:44:59 But that is a frequency that is coming through. And I think that the weird thing about frequencies and the weird thing about radio waves is that the technology behind that, much like kind of Ashton is trying to prove with free energy and what is potentially what potentially happened with MH370, think about how much technology is around the first. frequency waves that are sending a signal to a device that is connecting a device to a thing that you cannot see. And so those frequencies are connecting device to device. Now, think about this. So you're a person. You're a human being.
Starting point is 01:45:38 You're a bodily functioning person. And inside of that, you harness a frequency, much like a modem does, much like this computer does. But when that computer dies or whatever the case may be, the frequency doesn't necessarily cease to exist. I think the frequency and the energy continues. I truly believe the frequency and energy continues, but how does it continue? And where is it put into? Like, where is the energy put into? Where is the frequency put into? And so then like when you die, what happens? Are you going to be yourself? Yeah. I'm going to first, I'm going to like re contextualize what you just said to make it even more concrete for people in the audience that need a little more concrete there. For sure.
Starting point is 01:46:17 is when people hear frequencies, it's easy for them to turn their brains off. But remember, your whole body is full of neurons that are electrical signal processors. And every electrical signal creates an electromagnetic wave that propagates out in all directions. And you can measure the frequencies of the body. That is not pseudoscience. That is like very clear science that our bodies emit electronic frequencies. And electronic frequencies are always paired with magnetic frequencies, EM radiation, etc.
Starting point is 01:46:41 So the frequency is 100% a real thing. And the way I see it is like, or rather than, the way I like to see it because it's kind of a faith-based understanding at this point for me and probably for most of us is like choose what you want to believe and what I believe that it looks to me from a very science-based perspective that we are essentially an evolved electronic tuning fork that is interfacing with all the frequencies all because I mean like when you get down to the like heavy deep science is like all matter is actually just energy all matter is actually and that energy at the most fundamental level is all just frequency vibrations all interfacing
Starting point is 01:47:15 And then when you get back up to the macro level, like we have this, somehow we've wound up with this electronic structure within us that is able to power itself and generate these frequencies from within us, but also interact with all the frequencies coming in from outside of us. And I like to prescribe to the kind of idea that consciousness is very likely a field. And I was talking with Ashton when I interviewed him about how if the ether is real, like it sounds very much like the kind of energy field that could be. be a consciousness field that we are just receiving and tuning into and we are briefly experiencing
Starting point is 01:47:51 here, but it is actually a far more complex and bigger thing. And that would make a lot of sense why suddenly the people that have the technology to harness the ether are showing up with psychic abilities and they're communicating with their crafts with their minds and they're like remote viewing the universe. Like suddenly, why are all these technologies showing up at the same time as where? Ether people have, you know, consciousness expanding capabilities. And that's crazy that you say that because, you know, in the beginning, when I start seeing these things, I'm like, is there like actually a dude, like an alien in there? Is there an alien in there like driving this craft or flying this craft or what's going on?
Starting point is 01:48:28 But that makes complete sense that maybe it is just this orb that is consciously being driven. Yes. I mean, when you actually like look at what's in the documents and the files and read those implications forwards, like just the idea of remote view. implies that we all think of space as like a proximity-based thing. Like, I am with my microphone, but I'm not with you guys. But the very idea of remote viewing blows that wide open. It's like, if your mind can connect to anything anywhere around the universe, like you can remote view it,
Starting point is 01:48:58 that means that consciousness field is inherently not spatially distanced the way we think of it. And so maybe the orbs are psychically controlled, but that doesn't mean that they need to be remote, like close to the controller. It could be someone on another planet. It could be someone under our seas. It could be anything. I mean, who knows at this point? Well, it's kind of like, it's kind of like the saying that, you know,
Starting point is 01:49:19 and even I think Joe has talked about this and whoever that our bodies potentially are capsules for our energy, right? And so, so the same way that, and I want people to understand this. We've studied the UFO thing for seven years, seven years. And here's kind of my consensus of what you might be seen in the sky. Okay. Ian, you can, you can give your take on that. I'm curious to get your take.
Starting point is 01:49:41 Yeah. So here's what I think we're seeing. in the sky. I think that we are potentially seeing a physical in our realm manifestation of a energy or a frequency that is being utilized
Starting point is 01:49:55 through some way, I don't know where, more than likely potentially even here, that is physically manifesting itself in a physical form. And so when you see these craft, which still doesn't make sense, because if we even think about Roswell, if we think about
Starting point is 01:50:11 these crash sites. Yeah, because they've actually crashed and then we have aliens. Well, or biologics. Well, supposedly, we potentially have biologics.
Starting point is 01:50:19 And then, but then you could go even deeper, which is going to sound even more tenful hat. But think about if you go even deeper to say that your consciousness, somehow that you figure out a way to manifest yourself in a physical form,
Starting point is 01:50:30 but not just in a physical form as a crap, but also as a body into another weird, morph dimension. And then if you crash, then your body's there. Which is, by the way, maybe why these aliens look, old as shit and that bald
Starting point is 01:50:45 and they're gray because it's like the hell you just went through. The grays are supposed to be the good aliens. Yeah, but the hell you just went through. Of course you're going to be gray, bald, and four foot freaking two. Because
Starting point is 01:51:01 like there's no way you're going through 14,000 different dimensions, even though actually technically, by the way, there's about 10. At least from what CERN is saying right now, by the way. 10 dimensions, yeah. They're starting to find 10 different dimensions. And I want to talk about that before we get into Iran thing.
Starting point is 01:51:19 But yes, what if the craft we're seeing as a physical manifestation of some type of... From another realm. Yes, from another realm. And it is just a physical manifestation, much like, by the way, I think that our bodies potentially are a physical manifestation of our souls on Earth. And I know you can go into like the people that go into the whole thing about like, hey, we are, we are, yeah, especially the evolutionaries, right? The people that say we evolved and we evolved from a single cell and all this stuff. But think about if it was a little different.
Starting point is 01:51:53 And we didn't evolve necessarily, but we are just a physical manifestation somehow that came along of a soul, of a frequency, of a energy, which I think also potentially could connect to what we're seeing. It's energy. Energy. Everything was created from energy. And that's what people don't realize. Yes, you're 100% right.
Starting point is 01:52:12 the universe was created based on energy. And so like if, and the fact that we ignore that. And by the way, when you talk about Ashton Forbes, free energy, these craft that are potentially warping something into another place.
Starting point is 01:52:27 Energy is the answer. And I'm not exactly sure how that's the answer, but I'm just saying it's the answer. Can I give another take on what you just said? That's really interesting. Yes, please. I like your theory here. And I might even go you,
Starting point is 01:52:41 I might even take you, one deeper to suggest that we have plenty of evidence to suggest that there might be more than one thing going on here, as in there might be more than one, quote unquote, species of event happening. I see no reason why there wouldn't be, like, or rather, I see plenty of evidence that there may be ancient civilizations on this planet that were not exactly what we think of as humans today or had capabilities that are not what we presume to be human capabilities. By any meaning, like people that built pyramids, for example.
Starting point is 01:53:11 Yeah, or creeds things that built pyramids and possibly now have underwater bases and possibly have bases under the ground or who knows what. Call them Nephilim, call them, like, grays, call them the reptilians, whatever. It's like, how are you like, there's a whole roundtians? Yeah. And that is, and they are possibly from outer space landed here, built a civilization, possibly they're from here, evolved here, built a civilization, who knows? There could be one or more of those going on.
Starting point is 01:53:37 And we have some evidence of that. And that would make a lot of sense for them to be physical beings. that have physical technologies that have like real homes under the water, under the ground, whatever. That would make a lot of sense. And we have some evidence that might support that. But there's no reason why that precludes or excludes having an interdimensional species that is actually literally an energy-based interdimensional phenomenon.
Starting point is 01:53:57 And a lot of the whistleblowers give us testimony that they allege says that there are multiple species doing different types of things with different agendas. And so I kind of land on like keeping my mind open to like there might be. multiple factions or multiple things. And they would probably be different. If there was more than one type of non-human entity in this story, they wouldn't be the same. They would have different abilities and interface with us in different ways and have different
Starting point is 01:54:22 types of technology. Well, I like to, yeah, that's what I always say on the podcast is like I feel like it's all of the above. It's not one thing. It's multiple things. And we're seeing multiple different kinds of things. Yeah, absolutely. Because in order to get a Roswell type crash, you can.
Starting point is 01:54:41 You kind of, like, you kind of have physical technology. But a lot of these orbs don't really look like the same type of physical technology. Absolutely not. No. No, they look like an energy. I mean, if you really look at these orbs, they look like an energy. Ian, to this point, by the way, back in on Stephen Greer, which I don't have it up right now, my bad. Producer, you asshole back there.
Starting point is 01:55:06 Sorry, I am their producer. I am their producer. But listen, back to Stephen Gurr's point, if, for example, that a single entity, or not single entity, but a single organization or a single body or a single private organization has control of a technology like what Ashton Forbes has talked about, like what we're talking about with the orbs, here's my big, and listen, I've told Ashton Forbes this on the podcast multiple times. I said, Ashton, my only hang up with your consensus. And I've told him, I mean, he would never get mad at what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:55:46 What I'm saying is my only hang up to this is that if what you're saying is true, that this is the United States government that has a technology like this. I just feel like as, and I want to say this in like a patriotic, but like kind of like not, you know, whatever. Like an evil way. Yeah, if the United States government has this technology, like we would all be screwed, I think immediately. Because you're saying they would have already used it.
Starting point is 01:56:18 Yeah, because against us or against other people. Yes. And to Stephen Greer's point here, he says, whoever or whatever, you know, organization or entity or whatever that has this technology, they have full control over the world. But we also have to look into, I'm going to let you talk. but even like the EMPs in Antarctica, you know, all of that where we say we have reverse engineering. You're talking about direct energy weapons.
Starting point is 01:56:45 Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. They're called. But go ahead. Sorry. But even my point is like if we had that type of technology, do you not think that we would control the entire world?
Starting point is 01:56:57 That's a good point. But look at nukes. Right. Now as in if only. one nation had nukes, then you're absolutely correct. But we have no reason to believe that only one faction has this technology. In fact, we have lots of reason to believe that China and Russia both have versions of downcraft technology. And I've been reverse engineering it for at least as long as us. And we have lots of evidence that Nazis were doing it. And it's kind of likely that the
Starting point is 01:57:25 Nazi groups that were interested in this literally moved to the U.S. and founded NASA and now us. That's a whole other abiddle. But yeah, there's plenty of evidence that that, that, that, every faction out there has some amount of this reverse engineer technology. And just like nuclear weapons, except even more secretive, I would assume there is some sort of like nuclear arms race going on behind the scenes around the technology. Absolutely. And that would actually, I didn't even realize this when I just said this, but now that I go to Ashton Forbes's ideas, and I think about the MH370 concept and the idea being that
Starting point is 01:58:01 that plane was full of people that were working on high-tech superconductor technology. and they were Chinese and Taiwanese nationals, I believe, defecting back to China with some of their trade secrets. Then it's like, okay, now it makes even more sense that we would deploy such a powerful technology to warp them out of there. Because if this is a nuclear arms race among like ether tech, that that's like, you know, cold red stop that transfer of knowledge. And just talking about that whole plain thing, you know, I was just hoping that. if they were warped, they were warped into another dimension or something, but.
Starting point is 01:58:40 Somewhere. But Ashton says it's not likely that they're just warped out of nowhere. And here's my thing, man, to Ashton's point, like how big he is getting this thing, I am a little worried about Ashton, even though he is, you know, that's the thing.
Starting point is 01:58:56 It's like, if you're going to really call out someone like the U.S. government in the way that he's doing it, man, you better, you know, I mean, but also at the same time, He has been putting his things out where he needs to. If anything happened to Ashton, everyone's going to know. Yeah, but the Bowen Whistleblower.
Starting point is 01:59:12 But the Bowen Whistle, there's been two of them. The whistleblower situation weirds me out. Yeah. It's so out of pattern. It's like, what do you think that? You think we're blind? Like, but no shit.
Starting point is 01:59:25 And it's now two guys. But Ian, I think, I think any more, dude, it's like, they don't give a shit what you think. It might be true. That would be very concerning for our line of work. I rely on them kind of on the cost-benefit analysis being like, it's not worth me my time to kill you and Carol because like, what am I going to gain versus the publicity? It'll be it.
Starting point is 01:59:46 But like Ashton Forbes is a good example of someone where like, if he's right about all of it and he is starting to get some traction, I could see them being like, yeah, fuck it, we'll kill him. It's like, they'll know we did it. Like, we'll send a message. Oh, Ashton, I'm sorry that we're even talking about. But that thing said, if they do go for that, if they do go after him like that, I will mobilize the whole freaking internet.
Starting point is 02:00:03 Oh, me too. Me too. They will rise up. Yes. They better not touch Ashton. Try to come for Ashton. I dare you guys. It'll be the Me Too Ashton movement.
Starting point is 02:00:16 Yeah, we're not standing for that for even. Yeah, we're not even going to go there. We'll ride. Yeah, absolutely. We will. Wow. I mean, and listen, and here's the thing. I think the UFO phenomenon is amazing.
Starting point is 02:00:29 And I think that regardless of how you look at this, it is the greatest. topic of discussion that could unravel the biggest mysteries of our entire civilization. And the fact that we are in a technology, I guess a technological advanced stage now. Which could be a recycling of what we were before. Exactly. 100%. And they may have already figured this out.
Starting point is 02:00:54 And maybe because they figured shit out and they utilized technology that they found from those things, they destroyed themselves, which is also very possible. And I think maybe potentially we're about to be there again. Because there's something that Trump says. And I know you're kind of like an RFK guy, but I kind of take him. I dig his supporters a lot. Well, the interesting thing that I always find about Trump, whenever they talk about nuclear war with him, have you noticed that when he says, when they say, yeah, Trump, so what is, how do you feel about nuclear war?
Starting point is 02:01:30 And he's like, yeah, well, nuclear war is cool and all. but do you realize the shit that we have that, like, could destroy this entire Earth? Does he really say that? Oh, absolutely. Interesting. Like, he has said that on, what, six interviews. And this dude is like, he's like, oh, yeah, people think about nuclear war. It is much greater.
Starting point is 02:01:51 I cannot do it. I cannot be trying to. I was actually pretty good. I mean, like, I can't do it. I didn't know he said that kind of stuff. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. He's like, he's like if people realized the way.
Starting point is 02:02:03 weapons that we have. He's like, you think nuclear, not even close. And that goes back to the Antarctica whole thing. Yeah. But also, you got to think we were talking to Black Patriots for Trump last night. We had that podcast episode last night. And one of the interesting things we kind of found with that was how connected Trump's grandfather was into the CIA and like all this crazy shit.
Starting point is 02:02:29 And I was like, damn. Yeah, we didn't even know that. knows more about shit that's really going on than what most people even imagine. I think Trump knows a lot of things. I think that on a different note, I think that Trump knows how the blackmail industry works. And I think he learned from a very early age. His mentor was Roy Cohn,
Starting point is 02:02:49 who's like, OG blackmail or blackmailing at J Edgar Hoover. And I think that Trump learned early enough that he became unblackmailable. Like he doesn't drink. He doesn't do drugs. He doesn't party. He doesn't like underage women. Like he likes mature.
Starting point is 02:03:02 he loves his wife and like that person. It's he seems like he knows a lot of things and learn to play the game for what it's worth. By the way. He's playing the game, but he's still in court with a prostitute or a sex trafficker person or whoever she is. Yeah. Stormy, whatever. Her name is.
Starting point is 02:03:22 I've been trying to not follow it too closely, but I've been seeing it come up on Twitter of like all the stuff coming out about Cohen, his lawyer and all the other. Oh my gosh. Can you believe what's going on? It's crazy. Cohen basically admitted that he stole all this money for Trump. Why is he not on trial? He openly admitted that he lied to the court and stuff, is my understanding.
Starting point is 02:03:43 Yeah. Well, his name's not Trump is why. It's exactly that way. Someone said, Jesse James Town said, we want the Tesla docs. Yeah, we do. So how we do? How do you feel like, before we get on to Iran, how do you feel like the Tesla docs or just the Tesla
Starting point is 02:04:03 Nikola Tesla in general. Do you feel like that like, where do you feel like Tesla came up with that? And how much of our technology now do you feel like that potentially contributed from Tesla? That's a good question. I've never quite actually thought about how much of our technology might be from Tesla right now.
Starting point is 02:04:24 I could imagine some of it. I think that Tesla, like it sort of seems unbelievable for us looking backwards in time to the technology at the day to think that he could have been on to some great like ether tech breakthrough, some free energy breakthrough, because we think of it as such a primitive time. But in reality, like, I think it's actually more, what we're talking about is just a rethinking of our base principles of science. Yeah. And so as long as science has advanced far enough to understand the principles of energy and the principles of like physics, then it's like,
Starting point is 02:04:56 there's no reason why they're not equipped back then to understand these principles of free energy. And we're more equipped now. I mean, in some ways, we're more dogmatically down our own train of thought about like Einsteinian physics now than he was, you know, he was way more free back then to think these bigger thoughts. And he had things like the pyramids to study. He had like these ancient pieces of evidence that he theoretically was drawing from. So I don't think it's that unbelievable that he did have some breakthroughs in this direction. And I certainly don't think it's that unbelievable that it looks like his breakthroughs were suddenly confiscated and put away in a dark hole where they wouldn't threaten, you know, the profits of the burgeoning electric and cable industry.
Starting point is 02:05:39 Yeah. And I think it's very possible that I think that at the time, it's likely that nothing was getting, like, done with his research because it was just a direct threat. But it's very possible that over time, you know, that got revisited by like, you know, quiet little groups in the government that were like, what can we re-engineer out of this? It's kind of hard to say. Absolutely. And Ian, before we get off the UFF topic, I want to propose something to you. And by the way, I propose it to, I propose it to Ashton. He's down. We got probably, I think, a couple other people. Oh, you're talking about the ghost thing? No, no, no, no. So we have a research vessel out of Savannah, Georgia. He's one of our listeners. He has a research vessel. We also had someone else reach out that says he has infrared flare cameras. He actually does government contract work with flare cameras. And then we also have someone else that reached out that has pretty much the highest possible civilian laser technology that they have.
Starting point is 02:06:37 He does it for government contracting as well. We all are trying to get together this summer to go out into, by the way, the ocean of where Ryan Graves and all of them, yeah, the East Coast, where Ryan Graves and all these people said that they saw on a daily basis, these UFOs and UAPs. You mean the Rebutta Triangle? Well, yeah, kind of, right? I mean, if you look at Virginia, which is where Ryan Graves was kind of going off up, and then you look at Florida, that's essentially kind of where you're talking about. But we're trying to coordinate that again for this summer.
Starting point is 02:07:14 And we were so close to doing it last summer and then some stuff happened. But I think we're going to be good. It was getting towards the colder months. If we can do this, I want you to come. come with us because we're going to document it on video. We're going to have a whole documentary on this. And we're going to see, can we summons these things? I can.
Starting point is 02:07:33 I know it. This is my scared face. This is me being like, maybe this is a bad idea. Yeah. Right, right. I know I can get them. I'm down. Like,
Starting point is 02:07:43 I'm kind of down. Yeah. I haven't yet yet, but like, man, that's sound that. I'm genuinely like, this is the first thing that I've, like, I've had offers for documentaries and I've had like lead. And I've never really been like, like that might get me killed. But maybe.
Starting point is 02:07:58 I mean, hopefully not. I mean, as long as it's all good weather and, you know, you got, you know, we're out there for,
Starting point is 02:08:04 I think it was like, we were planning on like two days. Yeah. So to see if we can just see. Two days. I think it's like 12 or 13 miles out. Yeah. And we're also going to go to a haunted jail and document.
Starting point is 02:08:15 Yeah, we want to do that too. But yeah. We want to be kind of cool. Ashton's going to come. We're going to all. We're going to have all cameras. Meet cool people and hang out with the homie.
Starting point is 02:08:22 Yeah. No, we're going to spend a night in this jail. Yeah, it would be cool. Yeah. To be fair, I don't really get worried about ghost stories, even though maybe I should. But UFOs, though. I'm immune to that kind of shit.
Starting point is 02:08:33 But like when we're talking about like ocean and UFOs and Bermuda Triangles and places where we know boats go missing and like government over, there's a lot of government like, like the Cone of Blue documents directly identify the Bermuda Triangle as a hot spot of a UFO activity that they want to study. As along with Skinwalker Ranch. So it's like. Yes. Well, and most people don't realize I lived in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.
Starting point is 02:08:53 for six years. And if you actually look at many, I guess many lists, they say Myrtle Beach, South Carolina is like the number one UFO sighting location, that and like Wrightsville Beach, North Carolina. And if you look out that way, guess what it's out there?
Starting point is 02:09:09 It's exactly where we want to go. So everybody that's watching, we will let you know if Ian is going to come on that trip. It'll be dope. It would be fun. I would love to do it because it's like a once-in-a-lifetime experience. And I think, you know, hopefully it's not the last lifetime experience. That's exactly what I was thinking.
Starting point is 02:09:30 All right, guys. So let's get to the Iran thing because this is the last thing we're going to talk about. And we've got to talk about this. And then we'll wrap it up. But here is the video of the Iranian president when they found the helicopter crash in Iran, in the Adjur-Bijan region, I believe, is where this actually video comes from. but here's the video. Check this out real quick. It's a good son.
Starting point is 02:10:39 Hazaa Ha'aidae. Tavdae. It looks like this dude is not alive, probably. Yeah. Just looking at this. shit. Right?
Starting point is 02:11:07 I haven't seen this yet. Oh, is he saying, oh shit? Oh, shit. I don't. It sounds like that.
Starting point is 02:11:16 Yeah, it sounds like it. Oh, shit. Oh, sure. Even I don't think that's what he said. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:11:21 Oh, no. Our president's dead. Oh, shit. Wild. Oh, shit. So essentially,
Starting point is 02:11:33 this guy got Kobeed. Yeah. Can I just, can I just say real quick how we now live in a world where we have direct video feeds into the world through everyone's pockets? And we are no longer like, that's no filter. That's literally just the actual first on the scene. Right. Assassination essentially, allegedly. And by the way, I want to ask you guys that question.
Starting point is 02:12:02 Is it an assassination? Hold on, hold on. We can't go there yet. We can't go there yet. Okay, okay. Can't go there yet. Yeah, we're going to get there because we cannot go there yet. But this is as they're taking his body out of the woods, the president.
Starting point is 02:12:18 There's a video. They're taking his body out of the woods here. You got, let's see, you got Putin here. He's flying to Iran. I don't know why they put this audio. Putin is going to Iran? Yeah. to give it condoluses for the funeral, right?
Starting point is 02:12:41 Yeah. And then so here's the funeral possession for the president. Oh, that crap. So there's a funeral procession of the, so there's a funeral procession. So there's a funeral possession. and if you look at here, I'm going to,
Starting point is 02:13:08 I'm going to mute this. Look at this crowded. Wow. I mean, I'm not surprised. I mean, you know, because the Western media
Starting point is 02:13:18 wants to tell you the Iranis terrorists, right? And they're terrorist backers. Terrorist dictatorship. And yes. Obviously, they all live in fear all the time.
Starting point is 02:13:26 Yeah, absolutely. But like, do you, if Biden died, would you see this in the street? No, no,
Starting point is 02:13:34 I don't think so. Yeah. So, I mean, I think, a lot of people would honestly be out celebrating as dark as that I genuinely think that there would be more people celebrating in the streets
Starting point is 02:13:44 than morning in the streets. Yeah, because they're like, yes, our eggs are going back down to a dollar. I just want to point out that I just noticed that we've got like six times what Rudy Giuliani's got in the live streams right there. Oh, nice. Just want to dunk on Rudy real quick. Love you, Rudy. Yay.
Starting point is 02:14:01 I'm so happy. Nice, nice. That's cool to see. Yeah, it is. By the way, guys, thank you all so much for watching this. Without your support, we have nothing. Yeah, listen, the reality of this is, and I want to, before we get to this video, because I think this is a very, I don't know, we'll get Ian's take on this video,
Starting point is 02:14:21 because this is going to be the video before we get Ian's take on something else. But guys, thank you so much for watching this video. We are the people. And I think that the number one thing of why we had to have Ian on this podcast is because I respect his work so much. And we've been doing this for seven years. And Ian said, hey, I started this a year ago. I mean, holy shit.
Starting point is 02:14:42 But that also proves like how good Ian is. Really putting shit together. He's a goat in this. He's a goat in this. Like I said, I was so excited. I was running around showing his TikTok videos. I'm like, he's coming on the podcast. Yeah, Ian's amazing, dude.
Starting point is 02:14:58 And so we cannot stress enough how amazing he is. So I want to point out this video, real quick. As we're getting into this Iran president death thing, he died, right? And as some of you might have mentioned, or sorry, heard earlier, I've been in aviation for like 14, 15 years. I know aviation
Starting point is 02:15:15 very well. I will not go into the details of my involvement in aviation, only because of the shit we talked about here. But nonetheless, what this guy into thin air points out is speculated, although Alex
Starting point is 02:15:31 Jones ran with this, I have looked into this. The weather? Yeah, there is weather data that is legitimately missing, even though the community knows is trying to push against this right now. Well, I'm going to have to give you guys my take, too. Yeah, you will. But yeah, so here is into thin air.
Starting point is 02:15:49 We probably won't play this whole thing. Well, it's only two minutes. We might as well. Let me let you hear what Into Thin Air says about the Iran weather right around the time this happened. Here you go. All right, everybody. Welcome back.
Starting point is 02:16:02 May 19th. 24 and I wanted to check out the weather that was taking place while they said the helicopter, the president of Iran was in a helicopter crash and they said it was due to some weird fog. Now I'm going to show you something very weird when it comes to the weather in this area called Jolfa. This is where the helicopter crashed. They said it was right here on the border, right near this city Jolfa and here's the border right here.
Starting point is 02:16:25 So it was in this area somewhere. So what I did was I lined this up with a weather chart. It's not exactly easy to get weather reports for this part of the world, but I did find some and that is here on the CIRA weather website. A very detailed chart you can use, and here we are. This is the Middle East. We are looking at Jolfo right in this area here. It can't get much closer without it being very pixelated.
Starting point is 02:16:43 But I want to show you something interesting. You can see the date up here. We're on May 18th. Now this happened the morning or early in the day on the 19th, and now it's obviously a whole different time. So as I move this, you're going to notice something weird. We get into nightfall. This is the beginning of the night of the 18th for this part of the world.
Starting point is 02:16:57 And as we move forward, you're going to notice something. We're going to get to the end of this bar here where we should be moving into the 19th. which is where we would see the weather and what's going on in this area when the helicopter crash. But look what happens here. They have removed the entire 19th from the weather chart. You're going to see them just about at the end of the data here. Watch it goes from the 18th right to the 20th.
Starting point is 02:17:16 There it goes, boom. It just pops from the 18th to the 20th removing the entire 19th day. So we cannot see what was going on here, no matter what setting I pick here. And I'll just show you on this chart here. This overlay here is meant to be able to see fog. We'd be looking right in this area here. And again, you move from the 18th across the day. These take a little bit longer to load, but once you get all the way to here, it goes from the 18th to the 20th, right there.
Starting point is 02:17:38 Again, one click covers an entire day. So they have removed 24 hours of weather from one of the biggest weather charts that exists is one of the most detailed charts we can use to find weather all over the world. And we would be able to see exactly what was going on in this area, but they have taken the data away. Once again, I'll show you here is May 20th, which is in about two hours for the East Coast. But look, I backtrack, it goes right to the 18th. So the entire day of the 19th is missing so we can't see. what was going on in this area. Take that for what it's worth.
Starting point is 02:18:05 If anyone can find the radar chart for May 19th of this part of the world, I would love to see it. Thank you. There you go. Yeah. Crazy. So listen, I got to point out a couple things. So community notes on X has said that this is bullshit, right?
Starting point is 02:18:20 They said that we have found this weather data. They have found it on Google. What is it called Google Earth weather? They found on something else. But the interesting thing about this was, is that I looked up the dates that this weather data was implemented into these charts. And it was after into thin air got like four million views on this video. And then all of a sudden, all these debunk videos started coming out and saying,
Starting point is 02:18:47 look, we have weather debtor right here. Here it is. Here's the fog. Now listen, I'm not a conspiracy. Okay. Oh, shit. I am. Damn it.
Starting point is 02:18:56 I was going to see I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I am. but if you're a conspiracy theorist, could they potentially implement anything? Listen, what is the motive? Ian, do you think that Mossad is real and either weapon manipulation had any play in this? I mean, or is it just some random accent? I mean, because there's a lot of random shit that has happened in Iran
Starting point is 02:19:19 over the past six months. Honestly, I think it would be ridiculous not to think so. Not because like, just like, if we rewind it, history, anytime that there's a conflict that involves the U.S. or Iraq, like, that is literally the CIA and Mossad's job is to assassinate world leaders and to overthrow governments. That's the whole point. And anytime that you're entering a time of conflict, like the Vietnam War era, the Cold War, like the Iraq War, like, there's a huge uptick in assassinations and overthrows of
Starting point is 02:19:49 governments and leaders in the places where we are in conflict with. And so it's like no secret that right now there's a sort of Western power base against a sort of like Iranian, Arab, kind of Middle Eastern power base. That is the conflict that's happening right now, regardless of which side you're on. Right, right. And you guys,
Starting point is 02:20:09 I think you guys are familiar with Mays on Twitter. A Mays Love, yeah. Yeah, Mays Love recently posted a tweet about the various attempted assassinations and attempted coups that have happened across the region. I think she may have included one or two that aren't necessarily, that might have been not real. I'm not sure. I was looking through them one by one
Starting point is 02:20:31 to make sure that they were all legit. And it's like, for example, like President Erdogan on the 13th, the Slovak Prime Minister assassination attempt on the 15th, Serbian president on the 16th. And so it's like, and that's not out, like that's not far out.
Starting point is 02:20:49 That's not like a conspiracy. That's just them doing their job. The question is like, A, like, do you think that COVID intelligence agents shouldn't do that. That's a legitimate stance if you want to take it. I mean, but there's a fair argument to be made that like assassinating leaders is allowed.
Starting point is 02:21:05 I don't think I necessarily fall in that camp. But I just see it as like obviously we're at war and we now live in a world where covert war is always the first type of warfare that's used. And so obviously there's covert warfare going on and assassination attempts are the bread and butter of that. Oh, yeah. What better way than to down a helicopter near a border where you could have anything from like a scam, like a jammer, something that would mess with the helicopters like,
Starting point is 02:21:30 saying, like, I don't know. I mean, I'm no pilot. There could be a million ways to knock it down. People are going with this other manipulation thing. Like, they weather manipulated it down, which is like, maybe, but maybe we're doing something else and knock it down and wanted the weather is the excuse. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:21:45 But you guys think about the Wagner group, for example, when they were trying to take over Russia or they went into Russia and they're like, screw you, we're done with your bullshit. We're going into the city. or taking you over. Like not even, not even a week later. He was in a helicopter and he's done. No, it was a plane.
Starting point is 02:22:03 Oh, plane. Sorry. Yeah, Putin knows how the game is played and he's a professional at it. Yeah. Yeah, you're a Putin sympathizer, Ian.
Starting point is 02:22:12 Yeah. I probably am a Putin sympathizer. So here's the thing about helicopters and I want people to understand this very clearly, although I'm not a helicopter pilot per se, but we have to understand about helicopters in general, especially. that old model of helicopter that was utilized as the Iranian president's transport to another region in Iran. But real quick, that equipment was not good. And why would you put a president in a helicopter?
Starting point is 02:22:41 Exactly. You don't do that, right? And so helicopters in general do not have the technology or the instrumentation, such as, say, for example, TBM-9-40-950 turboprop airplane, where you have G-3,000 cockpits, which are literal screens or computer screens on your instrument panel. You can literally see the mountains in real-time. You could be 100% in fog or whatever, and you can see the mountains because it is all laid out there right in your screens.
Starting point is 02:23:15 So you can see as you're navigating through the mountains, helicopters in general do not have this technology. Now, the newer helicopters do, but the reality of this is if you look at the helicopter that was actually used in transporting the Iranian president in this particular case, it was an older model helicopter. This is a helicopter you would never transport a Iranian president in bad weather conditions. And so, you know, especially considering, I mean, you think about all of the hoop law that goes
Starting point is 02:23:47 around transport in the United States president, Joe Biden, Trump, whatever, they have advanced technology and a lot of the helicopters. But if there is even bad weather in those situations, they do not fly. And they have more advanced technology than this helicopter had in Iran. And even with that technology, they say we're going to ground that. We're going to go either motorcade or we're going to go flight instead of helicopter. And yet for some reason, this helicopter transported the foreign minister and the Iranian president in a helicopter that is 100% not.
Starting point is 02:24:23 prepared for a instrument, basically IFR conditions, instrument flight rule conditions in this situation, which is basically zero visibility, very similar to Kobe Bryant. Kobe Bryant was putting in a position. He was flying over the mountains. With his daughter, yeah. Yeah. And unfortunately crashed. Now, we could say this is all one big accident, but we also have to understand the content and
Starting point is 02:24:48 everything that's been around Israel and Iran. Right. because Iran is supplying Hamas with all the weapons. Yeah, Hamas, and by the way, you have to understand how much connection with the Iranian president. And that whole top-down leadership actually has a role in a play in how much is actually given to these terrorist organizations or whoever wants to call them. You know, Hamas, Houthis, Hezbollah. I call them. You name it.
Starting point is 02:25:17 Yeah, Hoosies, Sherry calls them. But even still, this has been a very contentious, topic for sharing I. There was someone that commented earlier. So, yeah, you better, you're a Zionist. And so you better talk about this lightly, whatever. Chad is definitely not a Zionist. I'm not.
Starting point is 02:25:33 But the reality of this is, Ian, is do you feel like potentially Mossad had a role in this or the CIA or both or not at all? I think it's likely. But I'm also really curious for your take of why he would have been in the helicopter in the first place. Because obviously, Massad can't orchestrate to get the. president into the helicopter. No. But easily, once he's in there, I can see a million ways for them to get it down.
Starting point is 02:25:58 And I mean, I see every motivation to try. Like, I think that Mossad would be obviously failing at their job if they weren't trying to assassinate the leaders of Iran. Although, I would also argue that that's a big mistake because now Iran, you saw those processions. You saw those cunals.
Starting point is 02:26:14 Like, there's a better way to unify the Muslim world than to start assassinating their leaders. And, like, I don't know if that's the best look, but that's a whole lot of strategic thing. Why do you guys think that they were in that helicopter? I, you know, here's the thing, though. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:26:29 Maybe he was trying to transport without anyone knowing. Yeah, like, because Iran is a highly mountainous environment over there. It's like there are a lot of reasons that you would need a helicopter to get somewhere. So maybe it was just like kind of a quick emergency secret flight that no one was supposed to know about. But also at the same time, you have to think about this. Back to Into Thin Air's post, which, you know, you hear this weather manipulation stuff. And we've talked about this in the United States.
Starting point is 02:26:58 Look, first of all, everyone listening, there's zero percent chance that weather manipulation is not happening. So I want to let everyone know that number one. I was worried you're about to say the opposite thing real quick. No, it definitely happens. No, no. I mean, it's openly stated that they can and do. Yes.
Starting point is 02:27:15 Yeah, they do. And you go back to Dubai floods and which, by the way, was cloud seeding. And I think what happened when Dubai floods was they cloud seeded into a system that they did not think was a big enough system that was going to produce enough rain. And what they really did was invigorate that system to make it a beast rather than a boy up. And so, and that's what they did with Dubai. Then you think about Houston. What just happened in Houston, you had this system. And Into Thinare also kind of highlighted this.
Starting point is 02:27:45 There was these weather anomalies on the radar that was being shown over the course of a 12-hour period. period before the actual Houston storm that just happened last Thursday, there was a 12-hour period where these radars were showing this weird graph pattern on radar. And into thin, I remember watching this very closely. And he was like how, like, and obviously because National Weather Service said, hey, this is going to be a weather aware day. This is going to be a tornadic event weather. He's sort of seeing these things that were very anomalous on radar and some.
Starting point is 02:28:21 of the various scoping technology that we have available now, especially if you're a pilot or you're in aviation, you know how kind of a lot of scoping stuff works. But also to that point, he called this shit, into thin air called what was going to happen in Houston. And he said, this is going to be a massive weather event. And it's going to be not natural because of whatever they're doing. They're charging the atmosphere. We had a lot of...
Starting point is 02:28:45 And it was going like this. Yeah. So you had a count, you had a clockwise system on the east coast of the United States. United States that was clockwiseing towards the, basically the northeast. You had a system that was clockwise and also in the west, but then as it got down to the Houstonary, it completely changed this trajectory and went in a counterclockwise motion. And it kind of brought up this. And by the way, right before it went into counterclockwise motion, it just disappeared.
Starting point is 02:29:17 And then all of a sudden, you started seeing these graphs on radar. and it literally looked like a graph. If you look at a system that has like a weather radar anomaly, that's what it looked like. But it was not normal. Yeah, the night before. So we interviewed some people the other day and they were in Houston area and they said, and they sent us videos.
Starting point is 02:29:38 We saw tons of videos. And they said, this storm that happened, dude, it came out of nowhere. And it wasn't just a storm came out of nowhere. If you look at a radar, it popped up and it was violent from the very beginning. and then also if you I encourage everybody go to TikTok or whatever
Starting point is 02:29:56 watch the videos if as this storm's moving in it's like the storm's moving in and it's not crazy fast but there's something that happens with the light there's something that happens with the light
Starting point is 02:30:07 the light in the entire town is like someone switch the light switch off in your house at night was completely dark you know when you have a storm it gets darker or whatever but you can see
Starting point is 02:30:17 and these sorts in these storms was like so pitch black that this girl could not even get to her grandchild. Yeah. In her own house. In her own home. Yeah. And so it was pitch dark.
Starting point is 02:30:30 This is what happened. So then you think about the Iran situation. And you think about, so you think about the Iran situation. You think about number one as a pilot and as the fact that you're freaking transporting a president of your country, you're going to know what the weather is at that time. And you're not going to go in a in a complete.
Starting point is 02:30:50 zero visibility environment, which is what they show here in this situation. You're not going there. You're just not going to do that. You're not going to risk it. You know what you're going to do? You're going to put his ass in the airplane that has technology that is capable of flying IFR, which is instrument flight rolls to where you do not have to worry about mountainous regions or none of that bullshit.
Starting point is 02:31:11 You're not going to put your freaking president in a helicopter to crash into a mountainside. 100%. You're not doing, you can't even put yourself into the helicopter, even if there was because you would be like, I'm going to fucking die right now. So it was either, so it was either, in my opinion, something happened very fast, very quick for some reason. Suddenly there's a lot of weather. Yeah, suddenly.
Starting point is 02:31:37 I mean, that tracks. I think you explained that very well, that there's no reason to put the president on a helicopter in bad weather. So probably there wasn't bad weather. and it's like that tracks with the weather data all being just disappeared and then suddenly reappeared on Google on other platforms and obviously the Google has no connections to the CIA at all like they could never take data that's my god Ian what do you think how do you how are you with the Mossad thing and all that when we had the Homeland Security guy on he said he said I don't
Starting point is 02:32:12 know if you guys realize and by the way he was a very pro-Israel guy homeland security guy And listen, I'll be honest with you guys. My wife, Sherry, we have a podcast together. She comes from her Jewish family. And our biggest contention between us. And by the way, this has recently started happening even personally, which is weird how that shit happens. Because there was a guy that said today, he said, yeah, he said, I listened to y'all's podcast about the Israel-Palestine situation. And what he told us was, he said, I thought you guys pussyfooted around on that.
Starting point is 02:32:50 I don't think we did because we fight basically on the podcast. Yeah, kind of. But with all that said, my point is that, yes, if you're Jewish, obviously you have to like, you have to have a stance in your heritage. You know, you come from Israel, all of that, right? I mean, 100% good at. And I'm not saying I agree with everything that's going on. I don't.
Starting point is 02:33:14 So, and I'm going to remain silent in this whole part. But the reality is I think that, you know, my biggest thing here is, is that the lobbyist, right, in the United States for Israel. They don't even know what they're fighting for. That's what's crazy. These kids on these campuses, they don't even know. And most of it, and most of it is not even kids. These are people like Antifa that are coming to these college campuses and rallying. And peacefully protesting.
Starting point is 02:33:46 But what I will say is I think that because of that, what you just said, is taken away from the reality of, look, the reality is there is innocent people that are dying in Palestine. Of course. And it just came out with Net Haute, who or whatever his neighbor is, that he's starving people on purpose. You know, I don't like stuff like that. I agree, you know, I don't know. How close are we to a World War III situation? and what is your stance on Israel-Palestine, U.S.?
Starting point is 02:34:15 I think that we are already in a World War III situation, and most people are expecting it to look like World War II, and it won't. And it doesn't. And I think that World War III will be first cyber and second espionage and third the final pounce once whoever is weakened has been weakened enough. And I think that we're well into the cyber. espionage parts of it, the subversive warfare. And we are approach, and that includes financial warfare, economic warfare, technological warfare. And I think that the factions are all vying for
Starting point is 02:34:55 supremacy. And once someone's weak enough that the pounce might work, then we might get that. But I honestly don't even know if we're going to get to that point because of nuclear weapons. Yeah. But I think we're in it. And my stance on Israel, Palestine, and all of that is super over, and I'm not shy about it. And I'm certainly not an expert on it. But I like, I stand with underdogs normally in most situations. And I came into the Israel-Palestine thing without a lot of understanding about it just before October 7th. And I did a bunch of research on my own to like inform my own take about potential Mossad linkages to 9-11.
Starting point is 02:35:37 because I wanted to make sure I understood Israel and Palestine a little bit at least before I started talking about Massad in 9-11. But what do you mean about that? I'm confused. What about 9-11? There's huge amounts of FBI files that are public record that are, there's a huge Mossad spying operation in the years leading up to 9-11 called the Art Student files where they,
Starting point is 02:36:01 Massad had hundreds of Israeli assets agents approaching government buildings. approaching government buildings, pretending to be art students from Israel, trying to sell art to like DEA agents and DEA offices that were clearly just campuses in government buildings all across the U.S. trying to gather intelligence. And they were stationed out of all the exact same cities and places where all of the Muslim terror cells that eventually hijacked the planes were stationed out of.
Starting point is 02:36:27 And it looks a lot like a dual surveillance operation of surveilling the Muslim terrorists and also surveilling the U.S. government and trying to get a sense for what we were doing at the time. And that's very well documented. And then there's also a whole bunch of FBI files about the Israelis that were involved in moving companies on the day that were arrested and then investigated and then released. And there's not a lot of answers,
Starting point is 02:36:52 but there's a lot of files and questions. And so I was going to do a live stream on all that. And before I did that, I was like, I, because remember, this is before October 7th, when it was still very much kryptonite to touch Israel. any form on going to be in the public sphere. And so I was like, I'm going to be thoughtful before I fucking step into this. So I did a bunch of research on like my own level of understanding on the history of Israel and
Starting point is 02:37:16 Palestine. And my take is very much like I don't see Israel's like claim to legitimacy in any like meaningful way, which is not to me saying that I don't see Jewish people's like claim to their own rights and their claim to like live a peaceful life by any means like the situation we're in today is is completely divorced from the situation that israel was born out of but when i look back at israel's founding i don't see anything other than like a a place being sold by the british empire as a piece of a war strategy so you're talking about like a rock feller fellow the rothschild family Right, right.
Starting point is 02:37:59 Yeah, right. Yeah. The ballot for declaration. And, and my biggest, the biggest tragedy in my mind is that prior to that, the formation of Israel, Jews and Muslims and Christians lived all together there peacefully. And there was no hatred. And there was no, like, as far as I'm aware, it was just another place where a bunch of people lived. And there was nothing about it.
Starting point is 02:38:17 It was no big deal. And then there, the Zionist movement gains steam over time. And the more I look back at that history, the more I can't help but feel like that Zionist movement. is deeply dangerous to the world and has honestly is probably the most dangerous thing to the Jewish like people as well because if I look around at the people that I know and the people that I'm looking at, if I look at the college campus protests and like the actual kids that have that sentiment regardless of how educated they are, almost all of that is fueled by the actions
Starting point is 02:38:49 of people that I would call Zionists, not by the actions of like the Jewish religion in any way. Like that's fueled by anger against Netanyahu. that's fueled about anger over the war in Gaza. And re-clifying the civil... All of that kind of stuff. And so the way I see it is, I think that Israel is... fits all the markers of a colonial state
Starting point is 02:39:10 that's based upon a religious book that was written thousands of years ago. And if you're going to let people have claim to a land based upon a book that was written years ago, then how are you going to apply that to one person's book and not the other person's book? Are we going to allow Muslim people
Starting point is 02:39:25 to declare what's written in their book to be like their right or allow Buddhists to declare what's written in their book to be their right. And so I don't vibe with the religious argument. And I would vibe with, well, I would understand the genetic argument, like the lineage-based argument, is in we come from this place. Yeah. But like if the Israelis that actually live there now actually came from that place, I would presume that they would look a lot more like all of the other people that already all live there in every other country around there that look distinctly different than them that are like from that.
Starting point is 02:40:04 What are you saying they look white? I'm saying that a lot of Jewish people are a lot more white than all the other people that live there. And they have an most extremely high rate of skin cancer in Israel as opposed to the surrounding countries. But that's why Jesus is white. Well, he's not white. But he's not.
Starting point is 02:40:22 He's Middle Eastern. I've seen pictures of Jesus. He's white. Are you talking about the pictures you get from Walmart or Target? Exactly. That is not. And so the way that I see it is like, and that's a pretty contentious view. It's a pretty like, and like I don't see myself as being the expert by any means.
Starting point is 02:40:38 Like I don't know everything. And I'm always willing to have discussions. But I think that a lot of the discussions devolve into like arguing over like who killed who first in this battle. And like you started October 7th. And it's like it's all just a fucking tragedy. Like it's all horrendous tragedy. And every death is condemnable. and every person killed
Starting point is 02:40:57 like like yeah soldiers killing soldiers in war is like that's war and that sucks but anyone innocent dying is is terrible and anyone who's responsible of that is horrible and as a US citizen it's like I don't want to be involved in that I don't know that like I don't want
Starting point is 02:41:14 So Ian and I get that are you American first Are you American first? Yes Is that kind of I'm not I'm not American first in the sense that like I'm not Nick Fuentes Yeah I love and respect him, even though I disagree with him on, you know, a ton of things. But I am American first in the sense of like, as in I would almost argue that I'm like, in some ways, they're going to fucking hate me for this.
Starting point is 02:41:35 I would argue that I'm almost more America first because he's more like white Christian America first, which is like love and respect. I just don't agree. I think that America first should probably mean like all Americans first. Like I don't care if you're not Christian. I don't care if like, and I'm throwing shit. I'm putting words in Nick's mouth that he wouldn't actually believe like. Yeah. I get that. Let Nick speak for himself.
Starting point is 02:41:57 But yeah, and I'm not America First as in like we're better than other people. I'm America First in terms of like we should be taking care of our own problems first. Yes. Our tax money that is already being stolen from us in massive amounts should be fixing our problems that are massive right here. Right. Our border fixing our schools, fixing our drug problems on the street. Our homeless people. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:42:19 Veterans. And even the black community. Because we were talking to Derek. the other night about this whole thing. He said, we are not African Americans. We are black Americans. And there's a big difference. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:42:32 There are Americans. Yeah, for sure. Ian, can I, can I, can I, we're about done here, but can I, can I play the people, your video on the, on the Israel thing? Yeah, you can play anything you want, man. Can I do that? I don't know which video you're talking about, but you can play. If it's on the internet, I stand by it.
Starting point is 02:42:49 And if I don't get by it, I'm willing to talk about it. Well, you're talking about Congress passing a bill outlaw and Before you do that, what makes you want to have your hair down or up? Because sometimes you're like, I got to put my hair up for this. If I'm wearing headphones, it's easier to go down. If I'm like doing long form with no headphones and my hair's down, it just gets everywhere. Oh, so it's just like that. But it can get uncomfortable to have it up for a long time.
Starting point is 02:43:12 I got a lot of hair to hold up. All right, because you were like, I got to put my hair up for this one. Yeah. Yeah. All right, guys, I'm going to play you guys. Listen, and listen, there's what, 13,000 something people watching right now. which is amazing. Thank you guys for watching.
Starting point is 02:43:27 And listen, we're talking about the real freaking issues right now. And the reason I want to play Ian's video, for those of you out there, Sherry and I argue about this shit all the time. I want to let you guys know. And our listeners know that they will reach out to us to say, you're made a pussy about Israel or you're the opposite of whatever that is.
Starting point is 02:43:50 And so Sherry comes from a Jewish family. It's like, damn. But the reality is what, when Ian released this video. No, Chad, you put it out there like you want to put it out there and you sometimes make me mad. I do make her mad. But at the very least, Ian's video on the anti-Semitism bill,
Starting point is 02:44:07 I want to play to you guys. And I agree with this. This is stupid. Okay, I agree with it. That's the thing. Sherry agrees with this. No, I don't think it should be a bill. It's not a good look for anyone.
Starting point is 02:44:20 It's not a good look for Jewish people. It's not helpful. No. No, it's not a good bill. All right, Ian, I'm going to play this video, and then we're going to break it down and then we'll wrap this up. And we're not going to stay here forever. But here's a video, guys. This is Ian's video on the anti-Semitism bill.
Starting point is 02:44:36 I think this is important with what we're talking about with Iran. We'll get back to that. And then we'll go from there. Here you go. Did you hear that Congress is rushing to pass a law that's going to outlaw anti-Semitic speech, which includes talking about Israel? This is pretty wild. Check this out. called HR 1690.
Starting point is 02:44:56 It just passed the House. It's basically expanding on and reclarifying the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to outlaw anything that meets the definition of anti-Semitism as laid out by the IHRA. This definition they adopted in 2016, and they specify that this includes the contemporary examples of anti-Semitism that we're about to look at. This bill is like specific to any government institutions
Starting point is 02:45:19 or any institutions that get government money like universities. So correct me if I'm wrong, But I'm reading this as you can get kicked out of university now if you do any of these things. From the IHRA website, this is the one that was the option in 2016 that was originally written as a non-legally binding working definition that is about to be legally binding. Here's some of those examples that they were talking about in the bill. Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews. Right on. I mean, like, let's not dehumanize.
Starting point is 02:45:46 What do they mean by that? Such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews control. ruling the media, economy, government, or other societal institutions. We'll come back to that. Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide than to the interest of their own nation. We're looking at you, Anthony Blinken. Nying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the state of Israel is illegitimate. Yeah, that's illegal now.
Starting point is 02:46:18 I wonder why they'd have to make that illegal. applying double standards by requiring you mean double standards like not requiring them to, you know, listen to the International Court of Justice? Double standards like them not having to listen to the UN? Double standards like bombing civilians isn't a war crime? I mean, we would never want to apply double standards to Israel, obviously.
Starting point is 02:46:41 I'm not going to read that one. Holding Jews collectively responsible for the actions of the state of Israel. I mean, fair game. Lots of Jews are anti-Israel. for great reason. But I couldn't help but notice that in the bill, there's the section at the bottom that says constitutional protection. Nothing in this act shall be construed to diminish or infringe upon any right protected under the First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States. Boom. Game on, baby. So I figured I'd exercise a bit of that free speech in the First Amendment
Starting point is 02:47:09 of the United States of America Constitution, of which I am a citizen, and point out that these are the only seven senators in the U.S. Senate that have not taken APAC money. out of 100 senators in our government are taken money from the Israel lobby. You know, the one that brags about how they bribe all our politicians to keep Congress pro-Israel. Because, you know, when something's the right thing to do, you have to pay people to believe it. Otherwise, why would they believe it? And you have to ensure that any of those bad people that don't believe it don't get elected because they're bad. The single most influential big money group in Democratic electoral politics. Because, you know, Democratic electoral politics is all about
Starting point is 02:47:52 big money and using that big money to defeat all the bad people that don't love Israel. Like, take this one, for example, where they elected Chantel Brown. In the 2022 election cycle, Chantel Brown was the top recipient of Israeli money, over a million dollars. Just some random woman from Ohio. And that's because the ADL has this nice list of the most radical anti-Israel candidates in the 2022 primary. And Chantel's opponent, Nina Turner, is on that list. She's a very bad person.
Starting point is 02:48:23 But I just couldn't help going back to these myths about Jewish people. And like, I generally actually try to keep my criticism to Zionists and Israel. But like, when someone tries to make speech illegal, you know what I'm going to do? Is I'm going to do that speech. Because you can go fuck yourselves.
Starting point is 02:48:39 That's why. And I would use that speech to point out that Google was founded by three Jewish people. The New York Times was founded and owned by a Jewish family, the Soulsburgers. Instagram and Facebook are obviously both run by Jewish people. David Zoslav is the president and CEO of Warner Bros. Discover,
Starting point is 02:48:55 who is also CNN. He's Jewish. Bob Iger, CEO of Disney. He's Jewish. Just a quick reminder, how much Disney owns. We're talking FX, Marvel, ABC, ESPN, National Geographic, Pixar. You know, they even own Star Wars. Brian Roberts, CEO of Comcast. Remember, Comcast owns NBC, MSNBC, all those.
Starting point is 02:49:18 He literally goes to Israel every year to compete in the Jewish Olympics, the Makabiyah Games. Brian Levine is the CEO of Paramount Pictures and Nickelodeon. He's Jewish. The Newhouse family owns Advanced Publication. They're Jewish. In case you wanted to know who Advanced Publications runs, it's all these magazines. I mean, we can keep going, but honestly, the only two that really stand out are X is owned by
Starting point is 02:49:44 Elon Musk. We all know what they tried to do to him. And then we have TikTok. I already made a whole real, or 10, about how TikTok is actually getting banned for other reasons in China and how what's his name? Steve Mnuchin, who is Jewish, is going to try to buy TikTok with all of his buddies. Like, never mind. I'll just let you go watch that one for yourself. I mean, we can keep going, but so far we've hit all of these companies. So, um, Remind me again about the myth of Jews controlling the media? Or does this bill outlaw reading too? Because I've just been reading a little bit.
Starting point is 02:50:26 And obviously there's nothing wrong with Jewish people owning companies. And there's nothing wrong with Jewish people like being the CEO of basically every media company in America. As long as they're not more loyal to Israel or to the alleged priorities of Jews than they are to the interests of their own nation, which you obviously need look no further than Ben Shapiro and the Israeli. wire to like realize that that would never happen. Except all that's illegal now. So that's how you know it's not true. Be careful not to go reading the wrong facts out there because some of those are pretty
Starting point is 02:50:56 anti-Semitic. And don't think too much about how the Balfour Declaration was given to Lord Rothschild and was directly a trade of this land for you helping get America into this war. Or do I have my history wrong? Is it anti-Semitic to claim that the Rothschilds were the drive? driving force behind making Israel estate. I'm a little confused on what's anti-Semitic these days. And in case humor and sarcasm goes over your head,
Starting point is 02:51:22 obviously, not all Jewish people are bad. And obviously, not all Jewish people support Israel. Everyone is an individual. I'm just wondering if you're also going to be kicking people out of college for talking about Native Americans or Mexicans. Like, is it illegal to question the narrative around black slavery or... I mean, it's not illegal for me to criticize my own government. but it's illegal for me to criticize another government
Starting point is 02:51:48 and it's good foreign policy to let another nation bribe our politicians, but it's illegal to question the bribing of our politicians. Maybe you guys can help me out in the comments so I don't get in trouble with the big boys. So there we go. Wait, I have to start because Chad said I'm getting lit up about saying Jesus was white. But that was satire. Satire, you guys. Do you think Jesus was white?
Starting point is 02:52:15 No, I don't think so. But anyways, listen, holy shit, Ian. And by the way, guys, I want to highlight Ian's amazing ability to put shit together. He did a great job. In that amount of time, it is insane, Ian. Like, you have a freaking talent. And Sherry is a Jew, by the way. No, I'm not a Jew.
Starting point is 02:52:38 I'm not a Jew of religion, but I came from Jews. Well, she did. But the reality of this is, is that this is the contention of between Sherry and I on a podcast. And this is why people do not love how we approach this topic. And we're going to say it right now. We have, you know, I am probably more on the side of like we got to realize. You're with Hamas, the terrorists. No, hell no, no, I'm not.
Starting point is 02:53:06 But Ian, Ian, think about this. our podcast has been talking about and exposing the New World Order and the people that are canceling conservatives. I guess you can maybe say Christians if you want to talk about what predominantly conservatives are as Christians, right? But think about the companies that are canceling those people. Okay, think about the CEOs of those companies. They are Jewish CEOs in a lot of cases. Yeah, but that's why I got so mad at you the other night because because all these guys, guys, okay, they might be Jewish and they're like very rich guys and own these very rich companies,
Starting point is 02:53:44 but you can't blame their religion. You can't believe, okay, George Soros, for example, he's not a real Jewish person anyways. He's a liar. You can't, you can't go after these people because they're Jewish. No, I get it. You have to go after them because of their beliefs and what they're doing. It's not because. Because now I can respond and you guys aren't allowed to.
Starting point is 02:54:08 rebut me. Now I can just talk. And I will briefly respond while they work on that in the sense. And I've talked about this a little bit in my videos before. And I hope that Sherry can hear me because I'd be curious for her response to this. But she's right that you can't pin actions on someone's religion. Like a religion is not like what creates a criminal enterprise or creates like evil or anything usually. And in this case, I don't think that's ever the argument. I think that I look at this a lot like I look at the mafia, where organized crime always forms around some sort of tie that binds. And the mafia, as one example, is if you're all going to commit crimes together, it's going to be really hard to keep that secret if there's nothing that's making people more, have more allegiance
Starting point is 02:55:00 to you than to saving their own skin when they get caught or to, you know, selling you out to get more of whatever is you need something that makes allegiance stronger within the group than without the group. And racial and religious ties is one of the best ways to do that. And cults do it through initiation rituals and initiation rights and sometimes fear and blackmail and other things. But in order to have any kind of organized crime unit or syndicate, you need something to be the allegiance factor, to bring everybody together. And so the mafia does that around being Italian, right? Check. And the mob back in the 40s, 50s, 60s did that around being Jewish. The Jewish mob did. And they work together a lot to form the basis of the blackmailed
Starting point is 02:55:41 J. Edgar Hoover around it. And so when people talk about the Jewish conspiracy theories today, I think most of them don't articulate it very well. But what I am trying to articulate is that I am worried that there may be some sort of criminal syndicate in this world that is at least in part Zionist. And if you are, if you are Israel and you are doing any kind of like covert ops overseas, any kind of like interfacing with criminal enterprises, then Jewish people are the most approachable. And so naturally, if you're Israeli and you're like, if you're Mossad and you're
Starting point is 02:56:16 trying to approach a Jewish person, you have a way better chance of getting them onto your team to do what you want to do than if they're like Japanese. Because like, why would a Japanese person give a shit about this Israeli dude coming in to like, you know, ask them to do stuff? I agree. By the way, can anybody hear us? Oh, I got you now. I got you. Yeah, now we're talking. Let me switch my audio settings back to my headphones. Yay. By the way, Ian, I'm so glad.
Starting point is 02:56:43 I love your response, by the way. Oh, sorry. Sorry, sorry. Before you go any farther, I don't really think Jesus is white. That was like a joke in satire. Even though, I think he is white.
Starting point is 02:56:52 I think he's really white. Chat said that people are like me up or whatever. Chats are generally ruthless. I've learned to just like bring on the hate, hate chat. Ian, I do really love your response. about that. I agree. I understand like the end part that it could be like a, you know, like an
Starting point is 02:57:15 Illuminati kind of thing. Yeah. Well, it's a criminal enterprise. We need to be aware of and worried about it and look out. And as journalists, it's our job to be looking out for those kinds of syndicates forming in the world and not just if they're Jewish, but like Russians do the same thing. Like if a Russian wants to get an asset on American soil, their best chances are to approach Ukrainians, Russians, like, like Sevakians, Bulgarians, you know, people that have an affiliation with them. And that's why the U.S., when the CIA was founded, the U.S. had an intelligence disaster trying to infiltrate South Korea, North Korea, Vietnam, is because we don't look like them. And so we had no way to get agents into Asia and then into like Middle East and stuff
Starting point is 02:57:56 because they could just be like, you're an American. Get the fuck out of here. And they would kill us. Well, we could put tape on the side of our eyes. Yeah, exactly. Listen, Ian, here's my thing, too, is like, here's my thing. And I've said this with Sherry and Sherry gets mad at me when I say this. But we have said this and hold on. Wait a minute. What he was reading was the second thing when you said talking about all the people
Starting point is 02:58:18 owning Jewish like companies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what I'm saying is, listen, listen, this is what I'm saying is, is my biggest question to this whole situation is that the United States predominantly, I guess, supposedly build up on Christian principles, a Christian nation. And yet you are saying that you have to defend Israel. Although if you look at biblical, right, Israel and Jewish people do not believe in Jesus, which is literally the foundation of Christianity in America.
Starting point is 02:58:52 Which is why Christ's king is suddenly anti-Semitic. Yes, exactly. And the crazy thing about it is like, okay, so Christians are supposed to, to support Israel, supposed to support and be behind no matter what. They can't say that Jesus is the Savior. Well, nowadays, no, but the anti-Semitism, but you can't do it. I get that. And so the reality of this situation is like, okay, if you really look at the Bible,
Starting point is 02:59:17 the Jews did give up Jesus to the Romans to be crucified. Regardless of however people want to freaking turn it, that is what happened. And the Jews said that, hey, we are waiting on. our Messiah, which is the Savior. And they said, okay, well, they saw Jesus. There was many people from various walks of life that said
Starting point is 02:59:43 Jesus is a savior. He was washing the feet of homeless. He was doing all these things, right? Well, you're not even close to Jesus then. No, but listen, no. I don't wash feet homeless, but what I'm saying, I'm not Jesus. Absolutely not. But the reality of this situation is
Starting point is 03:00:00 is that Jesus was the Messiah that they did not believe was the Messiah because Jews believed that the Messiah was going to come back and this ironclad, some badass like someone that is going to have a warrior. Yeah, a warrior. And they saw Jesus and they're like, this dude ain't a Messiah.
Starting point is 03:00:19 Yeah, this is just like a dude in like rough robe clothes or whatever. Yeah. And so they gave him up to the Romans. and and nowadays it's like the sacrifice of the red heifer. Have you heard about this? I have. Has it already happened yet? No, it has not happened yet.
Starting point is 03:00:40 So what they're basically doing is they have to build a temple first, right? No, no, no, no. Yeah, they know. No, isn't the sacrifice to commemorate, like to prepare to begin. Yeah. Maybe you're right. Yes. And the red heifer is a perfect cow that's coming from Texas.
Starting point is 03:00:57 Yeah. But they have the heifers there. they have the site picked out. They have it. I'm a little concerned about that one. If I'm like, if I had to pick a like conspiracy theory that sounds completely insane, but is I like,
Starting point is 03:01:08 I've kind of worried. Like that's one of them. Because even if none of the supernatural stuff is real, even if none of the other part, like even if it's just is what it is, if the Jews and Israel believe in it enough to demolish the current temple there, the dome of the rock,
Starting point is 03:01:25 in order to fulfill the prophecy that they believe in, that is enough to start World War III in the middle East on like in full and that's a terrifying thought yeah because you got to think I mean the reality of of of Iran of them in the East we had some we had some Muslims over at our house six seven months ago we were we were we were hanging out with them chilling they're and by the way and so so they're like and this one guy the one guy in particular I won't say his name he was the cousin he was the cousin Yeah. He is a, he knows everything about the Quran.
Starting point is 03:02:01 And he was like, he's like, do you know that we believe in Jesus Christ? I was like, uh, no. I actually didn't know that. I mean, to be honest, like I didn't know that. And he said, do you know that that we believe he is the savior? And I was like, no, I didn't believe that either. And then he said, yeah, he said, we don't necessarily believe he is the son of God. But we do believe that he is the Messiah.
Starting point is 03:02:25 we believe he's going to be the one that comes back. And so I was like, what? It was crazy to talk. Yeah, the Muslim religion is, I mean, the way I see it is like just three stages of the same religion. Jews were the first religion. They wrote the first books. And then a new era of prophets came along. And Jews were like, nah, like, that's not legit, guys.
Starting point is 03:02:47 Like, we've got the OG text. And the Christians were like, no, this is the new text, guys. This is it. And then the Muslim prophets came along. And the Muslims were like, yo, these are the new prophets. And the Christians were like, no, like, we like our guys. But they're all like the same story just with new additions. And that's why Muslims actually, yeah, believe a lot of those.
Starting point is 03:03:08 Yeah, it was crazy, though. Because they were devout Muslims. Yeah. One of the last things I want to say, Ian, is in the book of Exodus, in particular, in our dog spark, in medicine, okay, in the book of Exodus and in the Torah, or God, God tells the Jews to go to Canaanite, which is now Israel. And he said, this is your land that I prepare for you. And as these Jews make their way from Egypt to Canaanite, which is now Israel.
Starting point is 03:03:40 Which it took like 50 something years or something. Well, yeah, it took a while. But the first group of Canaan or the first group of Israelis that came into the land, they were instructed by God to go and kill every living thing inside of Canaan. Right. Right. So they were told this is your land and you are to go and kill every living thing with anyone. With everyone in this place. And do not make friends with the people there.
Starting point is 03:04:10 Now listen, this is the Bible. Yeah. This is what the Bible says. So they go and they don't do this, right? Because obviously they're probably like, this is kind of harsh. Yeah, this is pretty bad. So how do I kill my neighbors? So then God is like, well, we're going to exile you to the badlands for 40 years until we have a new generation of, you know, I guess what God may call non-pussies.
Starting point is 03:04:39 Sorry, I mean, that sounds bad. That sounds really bad. And so then they have this new generation. And this new generation comes in. They kill a lot of people. But then they start making deals with people and they start forming relationships with people. And then because of that, the Bible says that the Romans, I believe it was the Romans actually during this time, came and destroyed Israel again. And so it's like, it's weird.
Starting point is 03:05:06 Yeah, it's like, it's weird because God's telling supposedly, supposedly God's telling the Israelites to go in and, and, and demolish this land. But then also at the same time, because they do not demolish all the land, they are being destroyed over and over again. they were all pussies. Even though I don't think that's the case. I think they're being destroyed because they're trying
Starting point is 03:05:27 to destroy the people in the freaking land. And I know it's a weird kind of like, it's kind of like Noah's Ark. He destroys all evil. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 03:05:37 Who knows? I don't know. Do you have my little piece of sacrilegious take on that at the end? Yeah, go ahead. I can, I can fuck up my,
Starting point is 03:05:44 uh, my brand here real quick before we finish. Firstly, Christians, I love you. Jewish people I love you. Muslims, I love you. But I'm about to shit all over books.
Starting point is 03:05:56 I'm always curious why we, if we were to receive a document today telling us anything crazy like aliens exist, everyone would be like, yeah, who fucking wrote it? And why did they write it? Like, do they have an agenda? Like, are they lying? Like, what's your source, bro? But like, we have a book thousands of years old that like if you like, a lot of books are a lot of Bibles are based off the King James edition.
Starting point is 03:06:20 and in the front of the one that I bought when I was like 22, it literally said on the first page, this is based off the King James version. It was translated here. The guy that translated that version was burned at the stake for misrepresenting the word of God. Because everyone had such strong feelings about what the books actually said. And they were translating it over the years. It's like been through all these iterations.
Starting point is 03:06:39 And through all those writings and iterations, like the number of power hungry men that had their hands on that text to get it down to us. And the number of like the amount of the population that was, illiterate throughout that whole time. Like, the more of the population is illiterate, like, probably more than 99% most of that time, that just makes it easier for the people in power that are illiterate to change the text that anyone knows. Because I can't read it.
Starting point is 03:07:03 And so I'm just saying that it's, I think it's weird that more Christians that are skeptical of everything today aren't looking back at the book and being like, but like, who fucked with our book on the way to today? Exactly. Because if you believe that you have a God that is like all knowing and all loving, and loves all of his children and all of those good things, then like, why is he telling these people to go and kill everyone on that plot of land? And it's like, like, and so I don't know anything about, like, I don't have any context
Starting point is 03:07:30 and I'm not making any claims about who would have done anything. I'm just saying that I'm skeptical of what the books say because I know the types of people that men are across history. And I know that they had their hands on those books for an awful long fucking time. And I don't have any way to corroborate that they didn't fuck up what's in the book. I agree. And I can think of a lot of reasons to change what's a lot of. in the book to make your empire look better
Starting point is 03:07:51 or to make that empire look worse or whatever it is. Not to mention the different languages they had to translate it from. Yeah. And two, guys, I want everybody to understand this listener right now because we have a good opportunity. We have a lot of live listeners. I want everyone to understand that what Ian's
Starting point is 03:08:07 saying with how much translation and the powerful beings that were in place in the translation process, think about what has just happened since COVID dude. Think about, think about Think about how science is no longer science anymore. And we all are illiterate.
Starting point is 03:08:25 And we all have the internet in our hands. Not alone like an entirely illiterate population who's never seen a book in their lives. Yes. Hell yeah. I literally posted on this guy's profile or on this guy's thing. And he was calling out Joe Rogan because he was on Joe Rogan podcast, by the way. And he was calling out Joe Rogan. He says, oh, yeah, these conspiracy theorists are saying this crazy shit and all this.
Starting point is 03:08:47 And I was like, and so I had to respond. And I said, dude, do you realize that conspiracy theorists during COVID were like predominantly right? And so I so my response to him kind of blew up. And by the way, we don't have a huge follow on on X. I mean, we do on Spotify, which is where our podcast is. But we don't have a huge follow on X. But I always like to engage with people that try to, try to convert or I guess. disguise the narrative of what did happen during COVID.
Starting point is 03:09:24 And to Ian's point, we have to think about this from a kind of like a study level perspective. We got to look at from since 2020 until now, look at how much shit has changed in, what, four years? And then think of history has happened. Yes, it's a rewrite. I mean, we are taking now statues. we are we are completely erasing history we have and do you think that is just new it's not dude it is not new and we don't know what the hell happened in our past i mean we would like to think we do but we don't know because we've been lied to our entire fucking lives yes and it goes back to what
Starting point is 03:10:10 you were saying you know about the ancient you know the ancient history i know they had contact with these beings before. Yeah. We are not the first ones to see it. No, we're not. And so that's why I'm a lot more curious about ancient civilizations and ancient religions and the universal beliefs. Because I feel like I can at least trust the universal beliefs.
Starting point is 03:10:32 Yeah. Yeah. And I guess that's my big hang up with, which by the way, I 100% believe that potentially MX30 was abducted by the U.S. government. But at the same time, you've got to look back on potentially that technology was in existence. you know, 1,400, 1,300. And if that's the case,
Starting point is 03:10:53 we've got to look into that. But nonetheless, I think that probably the United States government figured out a way to harness that technology, reverse engineer it. And that's a very, very telling. Yeah, and I think we've done it before and we've done way more in the past than we have now.
Starting point is 03:11:10 Yeah. I think we're really stupid compared to what we were in the past. Yeah, man. I listen we've talked about a lot of stuff here and so much fun yeah we're at over three hours right now we're like three hours and 15 minutes
Starting point is 03:11:23 holy crap by the way I love you I love your background so can you tell the people first of all it looks like you're in the woods out of your window yeah I'm in the woods okay you do okay and and do you have some land there or is it just kind of really
Starting point is 03:11:39 I rent I rent but I rent some really cool land it's like a best land ever that's awesome I'm up I got trails. I can run around for days. I got a couple of really awesome neighbors. We all got guns. It's good. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 03:11:52 Absolutely. How fun. And how important is fitness to you and stuff like that? Is it pretty important? I think it's the number one important thing and everything. I think that if we are electrical beings, like your electricity is generated by your body and your body as your health, like your hormones are generated by our body. And I grew up with some form of like a Crohn's disease like thing that I inherited from my mom's
Starting point is 03:12:11 side of the family. And so I had sort of like an early on like. slap in the face of why health matters and by kind of like fighting for my own life and not like literally but and so i got kind of queued into it pretty early and i've been on a very personal like kind of fitness journey ever since and now it's like i mean it's it's everything i don't put it on my platform because i intentionally want it to be my own thing but like i'm an ultra long distance runner and i do like i'm i'm a weightlifter and a crossfitter and stuff like that it's just i think it keeps me sane but i think it's also really important for just oh it's a great stress relief too
Starting point is 03:12:45 When you exercise, it just like relieves all that stress. And good thing, Ian is not vaccinated because if he has an ulster long distance runner, you would probably not have it, Ian, on this podcast right? That is exactly why I didn't get vaccinated. Because I mean, they're coming after us and I'm like, bro, I'm literally the healthiest person you can find. I have no need of this thing. And thank Lord, because I don't want no hard problems. I got to use my heart.
Starting point is 03:13:11 Absolutely. Well, we'll have to bring you on another podcast about, your whole health and diet. By the way, we hit 14,000 listeners right now. 14,000 guys. Yeah, and listen. I have to take Ian, too, because I don't think we don't have that without you. No, not on X, no.
Starting point is 03:13:27 This is probably Ian. So, guys, thank you, guys. It's all of us together. It is. It's the whole community waking up. It is. It is. Guys, listen, because this is being pushed to audio, we encourage you guys to go
Starting point is 03:13:42 follow Ian. Cancel. By the way, what the hell is your name about? Is cancel this clothing company? Okay. I mean, it's really just a joke. It was just me kind of thinking about the like the way our brains work is if I come up with the company that the name is really memorable. It's easy to cancel this clothing because it's like pretty easy.
Starting point is 03:14:00 But it also is confusing. It's like what? Like who got canceled? But it's also like I dare you to come and cancel this fucking company guys. I'm going to cancel me. I fucking dare you. That's funny. So it's kind of just a lot of things wrapped up in one.
Starting point is 03:14:13 And I mean, when you ever you start an idea, you just have to choose an idea and press go. So, you know, the idea that I press go on. I love it. That's awesome, dude. Well, Ian, everybody listening. And by the way, I know all of you did not see all the videos we should. But nonetheless, follow Ian. And by the way, if you want to follow us, please do.
Starting point is 03:14:36 Follow Investigate Earth podcast, investigate Earth. Yeah. We're trying. Everything. Yeah, we're trying our very best. And we got a lot of good documentary stuff coming out. And hopefully this summer, by the way, Ian, that you're going to be on a boat with us. I'm going out and investigating some of you.
Starting point is 03:14:54 That would be so much fun. Yeah, because we got it. We're going to, we're going to do. We're going to do a live podcast with extraterrestrial. It would be amazing. I'll ask for business some questions. Yeah, we can take this same camera and just live stream it in the, you know, because this camera, by the way, it's like a really expensive camera.
Starting point is 03:15:11 It's got a great night vision. I want to ask you about Jeffrey Epstein, please. Where is your boy, Jeffrey? It's probably Jeffrey that like comes down from the, from the freaking mist. And you're like, did you, did you get, did you get, did you suicide yourself? He's like, uh, no, bro. Like, I got fucking killed, bro.
Starting point is 03:15:33 I'm, I'm in a spaceship now. And I got some young girls here if you want to hang out. Yeah, he would. Yeah, you're like, no thanks, Jeff. I will pass. Don't talk to yourself, Jeff. Yeah, no shit. Ian, um, listen, man, I, I really appreciate you coming on.
Starting point is 03:15:51 Yeah, I think that, um, I've been so excited to have you on. We could talk about eight billion things. I know, we could talk all night, but I said we're not going to do that. No, but also, um, you could talk about eight billion things with anybody and you chose us to talk tonight. And we really appreciate that. And, um, and we love you so very much. And listen, we're a family, dude.
Starting point is 03:16:09 We're a family. I feel like, I feel like we are a family. And I feel like we have to. Yeah, we're definitely like, spirits on this journey, which is why I do so much fun before I even like met you guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 03:16:19 And I think that we're going to, we're going to expose the truth, man. We're going to, we're going to all help each other. And guys out there listening, if you follow Ashton, you follow Ian, you follow me or us or you follow whoever.
Starting point is 03:16:31 Or Sherry. Oh, no, I'm saying. You follow anybody. You got to follow all. people and you got to support all those people because we're trying to make a difference and listen, the reality of this shit is is that, you know, there is some
Starting point is 03:16:47 risk involved. We just did the Las Vegas shooting series and we had survivors on that episode. We had a lot of stuff and there were people that were reaching out to us and saying, you might not want to talk about that because there was this person that died
Starting point is 03:17:03 because they talked about this and all this weird stuff. Oh, yeah. But Ian, thank you so, so, so, so very much for coming on. I had so much fun tonight. Yeah, thank you. Right back at you guys. Thank you. Yeah, we all do it together. So yeah, guys, listen, go follow, go follow Ian on X or wherever you listen to him. And if you want to follow us, Investigator of the podcast on X.
Starting point is 03:17:27 We are primarily on Spotify. That is primarily where we do most of our podcast episodes until X starts, I mean, which I love doing this video stuff. I think it's cool. Just seeing, seeing you, seeing your, comments, seeing all this stuff. We're going to start doing this more. Yeah, we're going to start doing this more. And hopefully we're going to have Ian back on very soon.
Starting point is 03:17:47 Yes. But Ian, thank you so much for you. I mean, it was amazing. Thank you very much. Thank you. All right, guys. Until next time, peace out.

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