Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Donald Trump vs Kamala Harris Presidential Debate Livestream with Commentary Breakdown

Episode Date: September 11, 2024

In this episode, we bring you the full, uninterrupted Donald Trump vs. Kamala Harris presidential debate, along with real-time commentary from special guests El Dave and Jake Chansley. We analyze the ...key moments, discuss who came out on top, and examine the truth behind the candidates' claims. Plus, we dive into whether ABC News showed bias against Trump during the debate

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Starting point is 00:00:28 Welcome to Investigator podcast for the 18th time tonight. Guys, for those that are listening on audio, you don't understand. For those that are on video, you 100% understand. This is our third attempt. We just got cut off, but I think they were good now. And we might actually be streaming on Rumble. I don't know. For those Rumble people, let us know in the comments.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Drink. Also, so we're going to be playing a drinking game tonight because I think that's what's going on. I think that I saw a Crowder do this. Sherry and I both saw this. Well, they did it the last time, too, and I think it's fun. We've used to do that on our podcast. Yeah. In the very beginning, like when Chad would say a word over and over, I would pick one word
Starting point is 00:01:08 for the podcast for night. Do you remember? Yes. Yeah, well, it was something I would say or whatever the case was. Yeah, but or you sometimes as well. Yes. But tonight, what we're doing is same thing as Crowder. Anytime that Trump says borders are or czar in just.
Starting point is 00:01:27 general, because he might say that quite often, we are going to drink. Anytime that Kamala says criminal or felon, we're definitely going to drink as well. If we really wanted to drink tonight, we could say anytime that the word border was mentioned, we could absolutely get plastered. If you want to really get drunk every time Trump does this. Yeah. No joke. But we're not going to do that.
Starting point is 00:01:53 But guys, just to highlight this again, because I want to highlight for our office. audio listeners. We will be releasing this on audio. And right now we are live. I believe on X and Rumble. So what I do want to highlight, though, is that tonight's show, I believe, is going to be a tell of two tapes where you have Donald Trump, which I believe is the undefeated champion of debates, especially in the presidential space. And you have Kamala Harris, which has yet to even talk to mainstream media. She will not answer questions from the press. She does not really do interviews. She did one little softball interview with her little friend
Starting point is 00:02:31 Waltz. And so it's going to be very interesting to see how this plays out. I 100% think the ABC has given her all the questions and prepared her and briefed her as much as they possibly can ahead of the debate tonight. You have to understand that Kamala Harris, anytime she's not on script,
Starting point is 00:02:47 it is word salad. That's what everybody says. It sounds like a mixed bag of complete crap. So tonight is going to be very interesting. I do think that regardless, they're going to do their very best to try to turn any and everything on Trump. They're going to fact check everything. Trump says, whereas they're not going to even bother fact check in Kamala Harris.
Starting point is 00:03:07 And that should all, you know, obviously come as no surprise as well. Kamala Harris in that campaign lies about every single thing they ever say. And this is something that we've been looking at for the past. How long has she even been the candidate now? Like two or three months? 40 something days. Yeah. So two, I don't know, over a month and a half, somewhere around there.
Starting point is 00:03:25 And then you have Joe Biden, which has spent. I believe they said, if I'm not mistaken, 40% of his presidency on vacation, which is absolute craziness. And especially in a time when the world is worse off now than we've been in a very, very long time. We have a threat of nuclear war from Russia. We have the Middle East completely on fire. We have freedom of speech that is basically going down the drain.
Starting point is 00:03:50 I mean, freedom of speech in this country and around the world. We're talking about places like Brazil. We're talking about places in Europe. look at what's happening in the United Kingdom. Look at the mass immigration that is happening over there. And what are they doing? Well, they're emptying their prisons in the United Kingdom. And they're emptying their prisons so that they can allow more of their own people into prison for anyone that criticizes any of the mass immigration that's actually going on.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Guys, this is a freaking problem. This is what is known as the replacement theory. But it's not a theory. It's an actual fact. This is called the replacement fact. And so we had just had on the episode before. Before Flat Earth Dave, we had Phil Lyman on. And I don't know how many in here that are actually in our live stream right now.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Listen to that episode. Let us know what you thought about Phil Lyman's episode because Phil Lyman is a candidate for governor in Utah. And what they did to Phil in Utah is probably also very similar to how they're going to do Donald Trump in this 2024 election. it is going to be a shit show of an election. I believe that it more than likely will be stolen. I don't think that we're, and I've said this, and I don't want to be a Debbie Downer when I say this, but I've said this. I don't think that they are going to ever allow a pro-American, pro-constitutional president back in the White House ever again without something very, very drastic happening before that. I think that we are headed towards communism.
Starting point is 00:05:21 I think we're headed towards a dictatorship and tyranny. I think we're already there. And I just said on X the other day, Sherry, I said, I think most people just don't understand and realize that we are already in war right now. We just don't get it. We don't realize it. Everybody is so busy and so consumed with their lives of what they believe is normal. What they believe are their freedoms.
Starting point is 00:05:45 But the United States really does not have much more freedoms than Brazil or the United States. or the United Kingdom or Canada. And I say all these places because I believe many of the people in Canada also believe they're free. But they're not. Look at what happened during COVID. We saw Canada, Australia, many places in the UK. We saw all these places that completely locked down their people. They were putting people in camps in Australia to where the people that were not vaccinated
Starting point is 00:06:13 or refused to get vaccinated. They were putting people in camps in Australia. We had talked with an attorney in an actually attorney team. husband and wife. Husband and wife team. And they were essentially fighting for the people against the government. And then what happened to them? Well, the government came after them.
Starting point is 00:06:30 And that's what happens. Whether people understand this or realize this, we are at threat for every single one of our freedoms to be completely stripped away from us. I think so many of them already are. I think that when we talk about freedom, I think that's kind of a mirage anymore. And so. you know, when we have people like Phil on and we have people like Peter McCola and stuff in the past, you have to understand that these are things that if these type of people do not get in office, get back in office, we're all screwed 100%.
Starting point is 00:07:09 So, Sherry, what are your thoughts? Who do you think wins this debate tonight? Well, like you said, I think that Kamala is already going to be prepared. I think she already has the questions and she's been preparing for the answers. and that's why she's not going, excuse me, on live TV. She's not going, you know, and going to the public. She's not letting people interview her off the cuff because she's preparing so heavily, kind of like Biden did on the first debate.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Yeah, that worked out. I don't think it's going to be as bad as what Biden was. I think that she'll be way more prepared. She's young. She still has her mind. And she's a prosecutor. So she's a prosecutor. She's used to doing things like this.
Starting point is 00:07:49 but, you know, she was already saying that she was going to be the underdog. Why is she the underdog? You're a prosecutor. You were, wasn't she like attorney general or something, too? Attorney general and prosecutor. But look, there's 100% no doubt the reason why that they are saying that she is, she is the underdog is because they want to go ahead and set up a failure in the event that Trump completely wipes the floor with her, which I believe he will do onto tonight's
Starting point is 00:08:16 debate, they're setting up a system and a kind of a scapegoat to where it says, just in case. Yeah, well, luck, you know, she's, she's very new to the thing and she's just been traveling so much. And I'm already starting to see it on MSNBC and ABC and all these other platforms. Oh, she's just traveling so much and she's so busy. She's tired and busy and she doesn't have time to do anything. No, she has been at home preparing for this debate because this is the most important
Starting point is 00:08:42 debate of her career. Yeah. If she wants to become the first woman president of the United States of America, she better be ready and she better be prepared. Yeah, absolutely. I just, I think that she's going to be prepared. She's going to be well spoken as long as she sticks to the script. If she gets off the script, she's going to be in trouble.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Yeah. And how do you, well, and you know what? To that point, Sherry, I actually believe that Trump and if I were, if I was his team, I would say find ways to either, number one, piss her off. off or get her off script, make her answer questions that maybe she's not prepared for. And so, by the way, I don't know if anybody knows this, but Donald Trump has been preparing for this debate with Tulsi Gabbard. So she, Donald Trump and Tulsi Gabbard have been together pretty rigorously ahead of this
Starting point is 00:09:35 debate. Tulsi is a very well-spoken woman. I mean, she kind of reminds me how she speaks with Kamala when Kamala is actually on script. but obviously Tulsi Gabbard. Didn't they actually debate against each other? Yes, they did. Tulsi and Kamala. Yes, that's what I thought.
Starting point is 00:09:49 And Tulsi destroyed her. And so, you know, I'm honestly looking potentially for Tulsi and them to join teams. But listen, we are about to go live to the debate right now, guys. It is starting. We're not going to interrupt too much on this. We're going to let you guys listen live. We will obviously commentate during the breaks. So let's go ahead and get into the debate.
Starting point is 00:10:12 And thanks for being with us. Absolutely. I must have said that that Trump sales tax would actually result for middle class families in about $4,000 more a year. Because of his policies and his ideas. Welcome to you both. It's wonderful to have you. It's an honor to have you both here tonight. Good evening.
Starting point is 00:10:33 We are looking forward to a spirited and thoughtful debate. So let's get started. I want to begin tonight with the issue that voters repeatedly say is their number one issue, and that is the economy and the cost of living in this country. Vice President Harris, you and President Trump were elected four years ago, and your opponent on the stage here tonight often asks his supporters, are you better off than you were four years ago? When it comes to the economy, do you believe Americans are better off that they were four years ago?
Starting point is 00:10:59 So I was raised as a middle class kid, and I am actually the only person on this stage who has a plan that is about lifting up the middle class and working people of America. I believe in the ambition, the aspirations, the dreams of the American people. And that is why I imagine and have actually a plan to build what I call an opportunity economy. Because here's the thing. We know that we have a shortage of homes and housing. And the cost of housing is too expensive for far too many people.
Starting point is 00:11:31 We know that young families need support to raise their children. And I intend on extending a tax cut for those families of 6,000. which is the largest child tax credit that we have given in a long time so that those young families can afford to buy a crib, buy a car seat, buy clothes for their children. My passion, one of them, is small businesses. I was actually, my mother raised my sister and me, but there was a woman who helped raise us. We call her our second mother. She was a small business owner. I love our small businesses. My plan is to give a $50,000 tax deduction to start up small business. businesses, knowing they are part of the backbone of America's economy. My opponent, on the other hand, his plan is to do what he has done before, which is to provide a tax cut for billionaires and big
Starting point is 00:12:23 corporations, which will result in $5 trillion to America's deficit. My opponent has a plan that I call the Trump's sales tax, which would be a 20% tax on everyday goods that you rely on to get through the month. tariff will be substantial in some cases. I took in billions and billions of dollars, as you know, from China. In fact, they never took the tariff off because it was so much money they can't. It would totally destroy everything that they've set out to do. They're taking in billions of dollars from China and other places they've left the tariffs on. When I had it, I had tariffs and yet I had no inflation. Look, we've had a terrible economy because inflation has, which is really known as a
Starting point is 00:13:06 country buster, it breaks up countries. We have inflation like very few people. people have ever seen before, probably the worst in our nation's history. We were at 21%, but that's being generous because many things are 50, 60, 70, and 80% higher than they were just a few years ago. This has been a disaster for people, for the middle class, but for every class. On top of that, we have millions of people pouring into our country from prisons and jails, from mental institutions and insane asylums. And they're coming in and they're taking jobs that are occupied right now by African Americans and Hispanics and also unions. Unions are going to be affected very soon.
Starting point is 00:13:46 And you see what's happening. You see what's happening with towns throughout the United States. You look at Springfield, Ohio. You look at Aurora in Colorado. They are taking over the towns. They're taking over buildings. They're going in violently. These are the people that she and Biden led into our country.
Starting point is 00:14:05 And they're destroying our country. They're dangerous. They're at the highest level of criminality. And we have to get them out. We have to get them out fast. I created one of the greatest economies in the history of our country. I'll do it again and even better. We are going to get to immigration and border security during this debate.
Starting point is 00:14:23 But I would like to let Vice President Harris respond on the economy here. Well, I would love to. Let's talk about what Donald Trump left us. Donald Trump left us the worst unemployment since the Great Depression. Donald Trump left us the worst public health epidemic in a century. Donald Trump left us the worst attack on our democracy since the civil war. And what we have done is clean up Donald Trump's mess. What we have done and what I intend to do is build on what we know are the aspirations
Starting point is 00:15:00 and the hopes of the American people. But I'm going to tell you all on this debate tonight, you're going to hear from the same old tired playbook, a bunch of lies, grievances, and name calling. What you're going to hear tonight is a detailed and dangerous plan called Project 2025 that the former president intends on implementing if he were elected to again. I believe very strongly that the American people want a president who understands the importance of bringing us together, knowing we have so much more in common than what separates us. And I pledge to you to be a president for all Americans. President Trump will give you a minute here to respond. Number one, I have nothing to do.
Starting point is 00:15:40 As you know, and as she knows better than anyone, I have nothing to do with Project 2025. That's out there. I haven't read it. I don't want to read it purposely. I'm not going to read it. This was a group of people that got together. They came up with some ideas. I guess some good, some bad, but it makes no difference. I have nothing to do. Everybody knows. I'm an open book. Everybody knows what I'm going to do. Cut taxes very substantially and create a great economy, like I did before. We had the greatest economy. We got hit with a pandemic.
Starting point is 00:16:07 And the pandemic was not since 1917, where 100 million people died. Has there been anything like it? We did a phenomenal job with the pandemic. We handed them over a country where the economy and where the stock market was higher than it was before the pandemic came in. Nobody's ever seen anything like it. We made ventilators for the entire world. We got gowns. We got masks.
Starting point is 00:16:31 We did things that nobody thought possible. And people give me credit for rebuilding the military. They give me credit for a lot of things, but not enough credit for the great job we did with the pandemic. But the only jobs they got were bounced back jobs. These were jobs bounced back, and it bounced back, and it went to their benefit. But I was the one that created them. They know it, and so does everybody else. Vice President Harris, I'll let you respond.
Starting point is 00:16:53 So Donald Trump has no plan for you. And when you look at his economic plan, it's all about tax breaks for the richest people. I am offering what I describe as an opportunity economy, and the best economists in our country, if not the world, have reviewed our relative plans for the future of America. What Goldman Sachs has said is that Donald Trump's plan would make the economy worse. Mine would strengthen the economy. What the Wharton School has said is Donald Trump's plan would actually explode the deficit. 16 Nobel laureates have described his economic plan as something that would increase inflation
Starting point is 00:17:36 and by the middle of next year would invite a recession. You just have to look at where we are and where we stand on the issues. And I'd invite you to know that Donald Trump actually has no plan for you because he is more interested in defending himself than he is in looking out for you. That's just a sound invite. They gave her that to say. Look, I went to the Wharton School of Finance. And many of those professors, the top professors, think my plan is a brilliant plan.
Starting point is 00:18:04 It's a great plan. It's a plan that's going to bring up our worth, our value as a country. It's going to make people want to be able to go and work and create jobs and create a lot of good, solid money for our country. And just to finish off, she doesn't have a plan. She copied Biden's plan. And it's like four sentences, like run, spot run. four sentences that are just, oh, we'll try and lower taxes. She doesn't have a plan. Take a look at her plan. She doesn't have a plan.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Mr. President, I do want to drill down on something you both brought up. The Vice President brought up your tariffs. You responded, and let's drill down on this. Because your plan is what she calls as essentially a national sales tax. Your proposal calls for tariffs, as you pointed out here, on foreign imports across the board. You recently said that you might double your plan imposing tariffs up to 20% on goods coming into this country. As you know, many economists say that with tariffs at that level, costs are then passed on to the consumer. Vice President Harris has argued it'll mean higher prices on gas, food, clothing, medication, arguing it costs the typical family nearly $4,000 a year. Do you believe Americans can afford higher prices because of tariffs?
Starting point is 00:19:15 They're not going to have higher prices. What's going to have and who's going to have higher prices is China and all of the countries that have been ripping us off for years. I charge, I was the only president ever, China was paying us. hundreds of billions of dollars, and so were other countries. And, you know, if she doesn't like them, they should have gone out and they should have immediately cut the tariffs. But those tariffs are there, three and a half years now under their administration. We are going to take in billions of dollars, hundreds of billions of dollars. I had no inflation, virtually no inflation. They had the highest inflation, perhaps, in the history of our country, because I've
Starting point is 00:19:52 never seen a worst period of time. People can't go out and buy cereal or bacon or eggs. or anything else. The people of our country are absolutely dying with what they've done. They've destroyed the economy. And all you have to do is look at a poll. The polls say 80 and 85 and even 90 percent that the Trump economy was great, that their economy was terrible.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Vice President Harris, I do want to ask for your response, and you heard what the president said there, because the Biden administration did keep a number of the Trump tariffs in place. So how do you respond? Well, let's be clear that the Trump administration resulted in a trade deficit, one of the highest we've ever seen in the history of America. He invited trade wars. You want to talk about his deal with China. What he ended up doing is under Donald Trump's presidency, he ended up selling American chips to China to help them
Starting point is 00:20:46 improve and modernize their military, basically sold us out, when a policy about China should be in making sure the United States of America wins the country. competition for the 21st century, which means focusing on the details of what that requires, focusing on relationships with our allies, focusing on investing in American-based technology so that we win the race on AI, on quantum computing, focusing on what we need to do to support America's workforce so that we don't end up having on the short end of the stick in terms of workers' rights. But what Donald Trump did, let's talk about this, with COVID, is he actually thanked President Xi for what he did during COVID.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Look at his tweet. Thank you, President Xi, exclamation point, when we know that she was responsible for lacking and not giving us transparency about the origins of COVID. President Trump, I'll let you respond. First of all, they bought their chips from Taiwan. We hardly make chips anymore because of philosophies like they have and policies like they have.
Starting point is 00:21:55 I don't say her because she has no policy. Everything that she believed three years ago and four years ago is out the window. She's going to my philosophy now. In fact, I was going to send her a MAGA hat. She's gone to my philosophy. But if she ever got elected, she'd change it. And it will be the end of our country. She's a Marxist.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Everybody knows she's a Marxist. Her father's a Marxist professor in economics. And he taught her well. But when you look at what she's done to our country, and when you look at these millions and millions of people that are of people that are pouring into our country monthly, where it's, I believe, 21 million people, not the 15 that people say. And I think it's a lot higher than the 21. That's bigger than New York state pouring in. And just look at what they're doing to our country. They're criminals.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Many of these people coming in are criminals. And that's bad for our economy, too. You know, you mentioned before. We'll talk about immigration later. Well, bad immigration is the worst thing that can happen to our economy. They have, and she has destroyed our economy. our country with policy that's insane. Almost policy that you'd say they have to hate our country. President Trump, thank you. Lindsay. I want to turn to the issue of abortion.
Starting point is 00:23:06 President Trump, you've often touted that you were able to kill Roe v. Wade. Last year, you said that you were proud to be the most pro-life president in American history. Then last month, you said that your administration would be great for women and their reproductive rights. In your home state of Florida, you surprised many with regard to your six-week abortion ban, you initially had said that it was too short. And you said, quote, I'm going to be voting that we need more than six weeks. But then the very next day, you reversed course and said you would vote to support the six-week ban. Vice President Harris says that women shouldn't trust you on the issue of abortion because you've changed your position so many times.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Therefore, why should they trust you? Well, the reason I'm doing that vote is because the plan is, as you know, the vote is they have abortion in the ninth month. They even have, and you can look at the governor of West Virginia, the previous governor of West Virginia, not the current governor is doing an excellent job, but the governor before, he said the baby will be born and we will decide what to do with the baby. In other words, we'll execute the baby. And that's why I did that, because that predominates, because they're radical. The Democrats are radical in that. And her vice presidential pick, which I think was a horrible pick, by the way, for our country, because he is really out of it. But her vice president, presidential pick says abortion in the ninth month is absolutely fine. He also says execution after birth. It's execution, no longer abortion, because the baby is born, is okay. And that's not okay with me, hence the vote. But what I did is something for 52 years. They've been trying to get Roe v. Wade into the states. And through the genius and heart and strength of six Supreme Court justices, we were able to do that. Now, I believe in the exceptions for rape incest and
Starting point is 00:25:00 life of the mother. I believe strongly it. Ronald Reagan did also. 85% of Republicans do exceptions. Very important. But we were able to get it. And now states are voting on it. And for the first time, you're going to see, look, this is an issue that's torn our country apart for 52 years. every legal scholar, every Democrat, every Republican, liberal, conservative, they all wanted this issue to be brought back to the states where the people could vote. And that's what happened. Happened. Now, Ohio, the vote was somewhat liberal. Kansas, the vote was somewhat liberal, much more liberal than people would have thought.
Starting point is 00:25:39 But each individual state is voting. It's the vote of the people now. It's not tied up in the federal government. I did a great service in doing it. It took courage to do it. and the Supreme Court had great courage in doing it. And I give tremendous credit to those six justices. There is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it's born.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Madam Vice President, I want to get your response to President Trump. Well, as I said, you're going to hear a bunch of lies, and that's not actually a surprising fact. Let's understand how we got here. Donald Trump's hand-selected three members of the United States Supreme Court with the intention that they would undo the protections of Roe v. Wade. And they did exactly as he intended. And now in over 20 states, there are Trump abortion bans, which make it criminal for a doctor or nurse to provide health care. In one state, it provides prison for life.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Trump abortion bans that make no exception even for rape and incest, which understand what that means. A survivor of a crime, a violation to their body does not have the right to make a decision about what happens. to their body next. That is immoral. And one does not have to abandon their faith or deeply held beliefs to agree. The government, and Donald Trump certainly, should not be telling a woman what to do with her body. I have talked with women around our country. You want to talk about this is what people wanted. Pregnant women who want to carry a pregnancy to term suffering from a miscarriage, being denied care in an emergency room because the health care providers are afraid they might go to jail and she's bleeding out in a car in the parking lot? She didn't want that. Her husband didn't want
Starting point is 00:27:28 that? A 12 or 13 year old survivor of incest? Being forced to carry a pregnancy to term? They don't want that. And I pledge to you when Congress passes a bill to put back in place the protections of Roe v. Wade as president of the United States, I will proudly sign it into law. But understand, if Donald Trump were to be reelected, he will sign a national abortion ban. Understand in his project 2025, there would be a national abortion, a monitor that would be monitoring your pregnancies, your miscarriages. I think the American people believe that certain freedoms, in particular the freedom to make decisions about one's own body, should not be made by the government. Thank you, Vice President.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Harris. Well, there she goes again. It's a lie. I'm not signing a ban, and there's no reason to sign a ban, because we've gotten what everybody wanted. Democrats, Republicans, and everybody else, and every legal scholar wanted it to be brought back into the states, and the states are voting, and it may take a little time. But for 52 years, this issue has torn our country apart, and they've wanted it back in the states. And I did something that nobody thought was possible. The states are now voting. What she says is an absolute lie. And as far as the abortion ban, no, I'm not in favor of abortion ban, but it doesn't matter
Starting point is 00:28:57 because this issue has now been taken over by the states. Would you veto a national abortion ban if it came to your desk? Well, I won't have to because, again, two things. Number one, she said she'll go back to Congress. She'll never get the vote. There's impossible for her to get the vote, especially now with the 50-50, essentially 50-50 in both Senate and the House. She's not going to get the vote.
Starting point is 00:29:18 She can't get the vote. She won't even come close to it. So it's just talk. You know what? It reminds me of when they said they're going to get student loans terminated, and it ended up being a total catastrophe. The student loans, and then her, I think probably her boss, if you call him a boss, he spends all his time on the beach.
Starting point is 00:29:35 But look, her boss went out and said, we'll do it again. We'll do it a different way. He went out, got rejected again by the Supreme Court. So all these students got taunted with this whole thing about this whole, idea. And how unfair that would have been, part of the reason they lost, to the millions and millions of people that had to pay off their student loans, they didn't get it for free. But they were saying it's the same way that they talked about that, that they talk about abortion. But if I could just get a yes or no, because you're running me, Jennifer J.D. Vance has said that you would veto
Starting point is 00:30:07 if you did come to your death. Well, I didn't discuss it with J.D. In all fairness, J.D., and I don't mind if he has a certain view, but I think he was speaking for me. But I really don't didn't. Look, we don't have to discuss it because she'd never be able to get it, just like she couldn't get student loans. They couldn't get student loans. They didn't even come close to getting student loans. They taunted young people and a lot of other people that had loans. They can never get this approved. So it doesn't matter what she says about going to Congress. So wonderful, let's go to Congress, do it. But the fact is that for years, they wanted to get it out of Congress and out of the federal government. And we did something that everybody said couldn't be done. And now you have a vote
Starting point is 00:30:46 of the people on abortion. Vice President Harris, want to give you your time to respond, but I do want to ask, would you support any restrictions on a woman's right to an abortion? I absolutely support reinstating the protections of Roe v. Wade. And as you rightly mentioned, nowhere in America is a woman carrying a pregnancy to term and asking for an abortion. That is not happening. It's insulting to the women of America.
Starting point is 00:31:14 and understand what has been happening under Donald Trump's abortion bans. Couples who pray and dream of having a family are being denied IVF treatments. What is happening in our country? Working people, working women, who are working one or two jobs, who can barely afford child care as it is,
Starting point is 00:31:38 have to travel to another state to get on a plane sitting next to strangers to go and get the health care she needs, barely can afford to do it. And what you are putting her through is unconscionable. And the people of America have not, the majority of Americans believe in a woman's right to make decisions about her own body. And that is why, in every state where this issue has been on the ballot in red and blue states both, the people of America have voted for freedom.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Vice President. Excuse me, I have to respond. I know the lie. It's another lie. I have been a leader on IVF, which is fertilization. The IVF, I have been a leader. In fact, when they got a very negative decision on IVF from the Alabama courts, I saw the people of Alabama and the legislature, two days later, voted it in.
Starting point is 00:32:32 I've been a leader on it. They know that, and everybody else knows it. I have been a leader on fertilization IVF. And the other thing, they, you should ask, Will she allow abortion in the eighth month, ninth month, seventh month? Come on. Okay, would you do that? They did not mute her.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Why don't you ask her that question? That's the problem. Because under Roe v. Way, answer the question with you veto. You could do abortions in the seventh month, the eighth month, the ninth month, and probably after birth. Just look at the governor, former governor of Virginia. The governor of Virginia said we put the baby aside and then we determine what we want to do with the baby. President Trump, thank you. We're going to turn now to immigration and bob.
Starting point is 00:33:13 border security. We know it's an issue that's important to Republicans, Democrats, voters across the board in this country. Vice President Harris, you were tasked by President Biden with getting to the root causes of migration from Central America. We know that illegal border crossings reached a record high in the Biden administration. This past June, President Biden imposed tough new asylum restrictions. We know the numbers since then have dropped significantly. But my question to you tonight is, why did the administration wait until six months before the election to act? And would you have done anything differently from President Biden on this. So I'm the only person on this stage who has prosecuted transnational criminal organizations
Starting point is 00:33:50 for the trafficking of guns, drugs, and human beings. And let me say that the United States Congress, including some of the most conservative members of the United States Senate, came up with a border security bill which I supported. And that bill would have put 1,500 more border agents on the border to help those folks who are working there right now. over time trying to do their job, it would have allowed us to stem the flow of fentanyl coming into the United States. I know there are so many families watching tonight who have been personally affected by the surge of fentanyl in our country. That bill would have put more resources to allow us to prosecute transnational criminal organizations for trafficking in guns, drugs, and human beings.
Starting point is 00:34:37 But you know what happened to that bill? Donald Trump got on the phone, called up some folks in Congress and said, kill the bill. And you know why? Because he'd prefer to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem. And understand, this comes at a time where the people of our country actually need a leader who engages in solutions, who actually addresses the problems at hand. But what we have in the former president is someone who would prefer to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem. And I'll tell you something. He's going to talk about immigration a lot tonight, even when it's not subject that is being raised. And I'm going to actually do something really unusual. And I'm going to
Starting point is 00:35:18 invite you to attend one of Donald Trump's rallies, because it's a really interesting thing to watch. You will see during the course of his rallies, he talks about fictional characters like Hannibal Lecter. He will talk about windmills cause cancer. And what you will also notice is that people start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom. And I will tell you, the one thing you will not hear him talk about is you. You will not hear him talk about your needs, your dreams, and your desires. And I'll tell you, I believe you deserve a president who actually puts you first, and I pledge to you that I will. Vice President Harris, thank you. President Trump, on that point, I want to get your response. Well, I would like to respond. Let me just ask, though,
Starting point is 00:35:59 why did you try to kill that bill, and successfully so that would have put thousands of additional agents and officers on the border? First, let me respond us to the rallies. She said people start leaving. People don't go to her rallies. There's no reason to go. And the people that do go, she's busing him in and paying them to be there and then showing them in a different light. So she can't talk about that. People don't leave my rallies. We have the biggest rallies, the most incredible rallies in the history of politics. That's because people want to take their country back.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Our country is being lost. We're a failing nation. And it happened three and a half years ago. And what's going on here, you're going to end up in World War III just to go into another subject. what they have done to our country by allowing these millions and millions of people to come into our country and look at what's happening to the towns all over the United States. And a lot of towns don't want to talk. It's not going to be Aurora or Springfield.
Starting point is 00:36:53 A lot of towns don't want to talk about it because they're so embarrassed by it. In Springfield, they're eating the dogs, the people that came in. They're eating the cats. They're eating the pets of the people that live there. And this is what's happening in our country, and it's a shame. As far as rallies are concerned, as far as the reason they go is they like what I say. They want to bring our country back. They want to make America great against.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Very simple phrase, make America great again. She's destroying this country. And if she becomes president, this country doesn't have a chance of success. Not only success will end up being Venezuela on steroids. I just want to clarify here. you bring up Springfield, Ohio, and ABC News did reach out to the city manager there. He told us there had been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed, injured, or abused by individuals within the immigrant community.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Well, I've seen people on television. Let me just say here, this is the people on television say my dog was taken and used for food. So maybe he said that and maybe that's a good thing to say for a city manager. I'm not taking this from television. I'm taking it from the city manager. I'm taking it from the city manager. dog was eaten by the people that went there. Again, the Springfield City Manager says there's no evidence of that.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Vice President Harris, I'll let you respond to the rest of what you've heard. You talk about extreme. You know, this is, I think, one of the reasons why in this election, I actually have the endorsement of 200 Republicans who have formally worked with President Bush, Mitt Romney, and John McCain, including the endorsement of. former Vice President Dick Cheney and Congress member, Liz Cheney. And if you want to really know the inside track on who the former president is, if he didn't make it clear already, just ask people who have worked with him. His former chief of staff of four-star general has said he has contempt
Starting point is 00:38:52 for the Constitution of the United States. His former national security advisor has said he is dangerous and unfit. His former Secretary of Defense has said the nation, the Republic, would never survive another Trump term. And when we listen to this kind of rhetoric, when the issues that affect the American people are not being addressed, I think the choice is clear in this election. President Trump will give you a quick minute to respond here. Thank you. Because when I hear that, see, I'm a different kind of a person. I feel. I feel fired most of those people. Not so graciously. They did bad things or a bad job. I fired them. They never fired one person. They didn't fire anybody having to do with Afghanistan and the Taliban
Starting point is 00:39:39 and the 13 people who were just killed, viciously and violently killed. And I got to know the parents and the family. They didn't fire. They should have fired all those generals, all those top people, because that was one of the most incompetently handled situations anybody has ever seen. So when somebody does a bad job, I fire him. And you take a guy like Esper. He was no good. I fired him. So he writes a book.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Another one writes a book because with me, they can write books with nobody else can they. But they have done such a poor job. And they never fire anybody. Look at the economy. Look at the inflation. They didn't fire any of their economists. They have the same people. That's a good way not to have books written about you.
Starting point is 00:40:23 But just to finish, I got more votes than any Republican. in history by far. In fact, I got more votes than any president, sitting president in history by far. Let me continue on immigration. It was what you wanted to talk about earlier. So let's get back to your deportation proposal that the vice president has reacted to as well.
Starting point is 00:40:46 President Trump, you call this the largest domestic deportation operation in the history of our country. You say you would use the National Guard. You say if things get out of control, you'd have no problem using the U.S. military. You also said you would, use local police. How would you deport 11 million undocumented immigrants? I know you believe that number is much higher. Take us through this. What does this look like? Will authorities be going
Starting point is 00:41:07 door to door in this country? Yeah. It is much higher because of them. They allowed criminals, many, many millions of criminals. They allowed terrorists. They allowed common street criminals. They allowed people to come in drug dealers, to come into our country. And then now in the United States and told by their countries like Venezuela, don't ever come back or we're going to kill you. Do you know the crime in Venezuela and crime in countries all over the world is way down? You know why? Because they've taken their criminals off the street and they've given them to her to put into our country.
Starting point is 00:41:44 And this will be one of the greatest mistakes in history for them to allow. And I think they probably did it because they think they're going to get votes. But it's not worth it. because they're destroying the fabric of our country by what they've done. There's never been anything done like this at all. They've destroyed the fabric of our country. Millions of people let in. And all over the world, crime is down, all over the world except here.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Crime here is up and through the roof, despite their fraudulent statements that they made. Crime in this country is through the roof. And we have a new form of crime. It's called migrant crime. And it's happening at levels that nobody thought possible. President Trump, as you know, the FBI says overall violent crime is actually coming down in this country. But excuse me, the FBI defrauding statements. They didn't include the worst cities.
Starting point is 00:42:33 They didn't include the cities with the worst crime. It was a fraud, just like their number of 818,000 jobs that they said they created, turned out to be a fraud. President Trump, thank you. I'll let you respond, Vice President Harris. Well, I think this is so rich coming from someone who has been prosecuted for national security crimes, economic crimes, election interference, has been found liable for sexual assault, and his next big court appearance is in November at his own criminal sentencing. And let's be clear
Starting point is 00:43:08 where each person stands on the issue of what is important about respect for the rule of law and respect for law enforcement. The former vice president called for defunding federal law enforcement 45,000 agents, get this, on the day after he was arranged on 34 felony counts. So let's talk about what is important in this race. It is important that we move forward, that we turn the page on this same old tired rhetoric and address the needs of the American people, address what we need to do about the housing shortage, which I have a plan for, address what we must do to support our small business. businesses, a dress bringing down the price of groceries.
Starting point is 00:43:55 But frankly, the American people are exhausted with the same all-tired playbook. Vice President Harris, thank you. Excuse me. Every one of those cases was started by them against their political opponent. And I'm winning most of them, and I will win the rest on appeal. And you saw that with the decision that came down just recently from the Supreme Court. I'm winning most of them. But those are cases.
Starting point is 00:44:18 It's called weaponization. Never happened in this country. They weaponized the Justice Department. Every one of those cases was involved with the DOJ from Atlanta and Fawney Willis to the Attorney General of New York and the DA in New York. Every one of those cases. And then they say, oh, he was, he's a criminal. They're the ones that made them go after me. By the way, Joe Biden was found essentially guilty on the documents case.
Starting point is 00:44:47 And what happened in my documents case? They said, oh, that's the toughest of them all. A complete and total victory. Two months ago, it was thrown out. It's weaponization, and they used it, and it's never happened in this country. They used it to try and win an election. They're fake cases. President Trump, thank you.
Starting point is 00:45:04 A really quick response here, Vice President Harris, on this notion of weaponization of the Justice Department. Well, let's talk about extreme and understand the context in which this election in 2024 is taking place. The United States Supreme Court recently ruled that the former president would essentially be, immune from any misconduct if he were to enter the White House again. Understand this is someone who has openly said he would terminate, I'm quoting, terminate the Constitution of the United States, that he would weaponize the Department of Justice against his political enemies. Someone who has openly expressed disdain for members of our military. Understand what it would mean if Donald Trump were back in the White House with no
Starting point is 00:45:51 guardrails because certainly we know now the court won't stop him. We know J.D. Vance is not going to stop him. It's up to the American people. Vice President Harris, thank you. Lindsay. Vice President Harris, in your last run for president. This is the one that weaponized, not me. She weaponized. I probably took a bullet to the head because of the things that they say about me. They talk about democracy. I'm a threat to democracy. They're the threat to democracy with a fake Russia. Russia, Russia, Russia investigation that went nowhere. We have a lot to get to.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Lindsay? Vice President Harris, in your last run for president, you said you wanted to ban fracking, now you don't. You wanted mandatory government buyback programs for assault weapons. Now your campaign says you don't. You supported decriminalizing border crossings. Now you're taking a harder line. I know you say that your values have not changed.
Starting point is 00:46:42 So then why have so many of your policy positions changed? So my values have not changed. And I'm going to discuss every one of the, least every point that you've made. But in particular, let's talk about fracking because we're here in Pennsylvania. I made that very clear in 2020. I will not ban fracking. I have not banned fracking as vice president of the United States. And in fact, I was the tie-breaking vote on the Inflation Reduction Act, which opened new leases for fracking. My position is that we have got to invest in diverse sources of energy so we reduce our reliance on foreign oil. We have had the
Starting point is 00:47:20 largest increase in domestic oil production in history because of an approach that recognizes that we cannot over-rely on foreign oil. As it relates to my values, let me tell you, I grew up a middle-class kid raised by a hardworking mother who worked and saved and was able to buy our first home when I was a teenager. The values I bring to the importance of home ownership knowing not everybody got handed, $400 million on a silver platter and then filed bankruptcy six times is a value that I bring to my work to say we are going to work with the private sector and home builders to increase 3 million homes, increased by 3 million homes by the end of my first term. My work that is related to having a friend when I was in high school who was sexually assaulted by her stepfather. And my focus then on protecting women and children from violent crime is based on a value that is deeply grounded in the importance of standing up for those who are most vulnerable. My work that is about protecting Social Security and Medicare is based on longstanding work that I have done, protecting seniors from scams.
Starting point is 00:48:32 My values have not changed. And what is important is that there is a president who actually brings values and a perspective that, is about lifting people up and not beating people down and name-calling. The true measure of the leader is the leader who actually understands the strength is not in beating people down. It's in lifting people up. I intend to be that president. President Trump, your response? Well, first of all, I wasn't given $400 million.
Starting point is 00:49:03 I wish I was. My father was a Brooklyn builder, Brooklyn Queens, and a great father, and I learned a lot from him. But I was given a fraction of that, a tiny fraction. and have built it into many, many billions of dollars, many, many billions. And when people see it, they are even surprised. So we don't have to talk about that. Fracking, she's been against it for 12 years. Defund the police, she's been against that forever.
Starting point is 00:49:26 She gave all that stuff up very wrongly, very horribly, and everybody's laughing at it, okay? They're all laughing at it. She gave up at least 12 and probably 14 or 15 different policies. Like, she was big on doing. fund the police. In Minnesota, she went out, wait a minute, I'm talking now, if you don't mind. Does that sound familiar? She went out, she went out in Minnesota and wanted to let criminals that killed people
Starting point is 00:49:59 that burned down Minneapolis. She went out and raised money to get them out of jail. She did things that nobody would ever think of. Now she wants to do transgender operations or illegal aliens that are in prison. This is a radical left liberal that would do this. She wants to confiscate your guns, and she will never allow fracking in Pennsylvania. If she won the election, fracking in Pennsylvania will end on day one.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Just to finish one thing so important, in my opinion. So I got the oil business going like nobody has ever done before. They took, when they took over, they got rid of it, started getting rid of it, and the prices were going up. the roof. They immediately let these guys go to where they were. I would have been five times, four times, five times higher, because you're talking about three and a half years ago. They got it up to where I was because they had no choice because the prices of energy were quadrupling and doubling. You saw what happened to gasoline. So they said, let's go back to Trump.
Starting point is 00:51:02 But if she won the election, the day after that election, they'll go back to destroying our country. and oil will be dead, fossil fuel will be dead, we'll go back to windmills and we'll go back to solar where they need a whole desert to get some energy to come out of it. You ever see a solar plant? By the way, I'm a big fan of solar,
Starting point is 00:51:19 but they take 400, 500 acres of desert soil. These are not good things for the environment, as she understands. Thank you. Lindsay, thank you. We have an election in just 56 days. And I want to talk about the peaceful transfer of power, which, of course, we all know
Starting point is 00:51:35 is a cornerstone of our democracy. and the role of a president in a moment of crisis. Mr. President, on January 6th, you told your supporters to march to the Capitol. You said you would be right there with them. The country in the world saw what played out of the Capitol that day. The officers coming under attack. Aides in the West Wing say you watched it unfold on television off the Oval Office. You did send out tweets, but it was more than two hours before you sent out that video message,
Starting point is 00:51:59 telling your supporters to go home. Is there anything you regret about what you did on that day? You just said a thing that isn't covered peacefully and patriotically. I said during my speech, not later on. Peacefully and patriotically. And nobody on the other side was killed. Ashley Babett was shot by an out-of-control police officer that should have never, ever shot her. It's a disgrace.
Starting point is 00:52:27 But we didn't do this group of people that have been treated so badly. I ask, what about all the people that are pouring in trouble? our country and killing people that she allowed deport in. She was the border czar. Remember that. She was the border czar. She doesn't want to be called the borderzor because she's embarrassed by the border. In fact, she said at the beginning, well, I'm surprised you're not talking about the border yet. That's because she knows what a bad job they've done. What about those people? What are they going to be prosecuted? One of these people from countries all over the world, not just South America. They're coming in from all over the world, David, all over the world.
Starting point is 00:53:05 are down all over the world because of it. But let me just ask you. David, one of those people are going to be prosecuted? One of the people that burned down Minneapolis is going to be prosecuted or in Seattle. They went into Seattle. They took over a big percentage of the city of Seattle. When are those people going to be prosecuted?
Starting point is 00:53:21 But let me just ask you. You might ask her that question. You were the president. You were watching it unfold on television. It's a very simple question as we move forward toward another election. Is there anything you regret about what you did on that day? Yes, sir? I had nothing to do with that. other than they asked me to make a speech.
Starting point is 00:53:36 I showed up for a speech. I said, I think it's going to be big. I went to Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of Washington, D.C., and the mayor put it back in writing, as you know. I said, you know, this is going to be a very big rally or whatever you want to call it. And again, it wasn't done by me. It was done by others.
Starting point is 00:53:54 I said, I'd like to give you 10,000 National Guard or soldiers. They rejected me. Nancy Pelosi rejected me. It was just two weeks ago, her daughter has a tape of her saying she is fully responsible for what happened. They want to get rid of that tape. It would have never happened if Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of Washington did their jobs. I wasn't responsible for security.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Nancy Pelosi was responsible. She didn't do her job. The question was about you as president, not about former Speaker Pelosi, but I do want Vice President Harris to respond here. I was at the Capitol on January 6th. I was the Vice President-elect. I was also an acting senator. I was there.
Starting point is 00:54:35 And on that day, the president of the United States incited a violent mob to attack our nation's capital, to desecrate our nation's capital. On that day, 140 law enforcement officers were injured, and some died. And understand, the former president has been indicted and impeached for exactly that reason. But this is not an isolated situation. Let's remember Charlottesville where there was a mob of people carrying teaky torches, spewing anti-Semitic hate. And what did the president then at the time say? There were fine people on each side. Let's remember that when it came to the proud boys, a militia, the president said, the former president said, stand back and stand by.
Starting point is 00:55:32 So for everyone watching who remembers what January 6th was, I say, we don't have to go back. Let's not go back. We're not going back. It's time to turn the page. And if that was a bridge too far for you, well, there is a place in our campaign for you to stand for country, to stand for our democracy, to stand for rule of law. and to end the chaos and to end the approach that is about attacking the foundations of our democracy because you don't like the outcome. And be clear on that point, Donald Trump, the candidate, has said in this election,
Starting point is 00:56:18 there will be a bloodbath if this and the outcome of this election is not to his liking. Let's turn the page on this. Let's not go back. Let's chart a course for the future. and not go backwards to the past. Let me just follow up here. It was a different term, and it was a term that related to energy, because they have destroyed our energy business.
Starting point is 00:56:42 That was where Bloodbath was. Also, on Charlottesville, that story has been, as you would say, debunked. Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity, Jesse, all of these people, they covered it. If they go an extra sentence, they will see it was perfect. It was debunked in almost every newspaper, but they still bring it up, just like they bring 20, 25 up. They bring all of the stuff up.
Starting point is 00:57:04 I ask you this. You talk about the Capitol. Why are we allowing these millions of people to come through on the southern border? How come she's not doing anything? And I'll tell you what I would do, and I would be very proud to do it. I would say we would both leave this debate right now. I'd like to see her go down to Washington, D.C. during this debate, because we're wasting a lot of time. go down to, because she's been so bad, it's so ridiculous, go down to Washington, D.C.
Starting point is 00:57:32 and let her sign a bill to close up the border because they have the right to do it. They don't need bills. They have the right to do it. The president of the United States, you'll get them out of bed, you'll wake them up at 4 o'clock in the afternoon. You'll say, come on, come on down to the office, let's sign a bill. If he signs a bill that the border is closed, all he has to do is say it to the border patrol, who are phenomenal. If they do that, the border is closed.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Those people are killing many people, unlike J6. We talked to immigration here tonight. I do want to focus on this next issue to both of you because it really brings us this into focus, truth in these times that we're living in. Mr. President, for three and a half years after you lost the 2020 election, you repeatedly falsely claimed that you won, many times saying you won in a landslide. In the past couple of weeks leading up to this debate, you have said, quote, you lost by a whisker, that you, quote, didn't quite make it, that you came up a little bit short.
Starting point is 00:58:24 I said that. Are you now acknowledging that you lost in 2020? No, I don't acknowledge that at all. I said that sarcastically, you know that. It was said, oh, we lost by a whisker. That was said sarcastically. Look, there's so much proof. All you have to do is look at it.
Starting point is 00:58:39 And they should have sent it back to the legislatures for approval. I got almost 75 million votes. The most votes any sitting president has ever gotten. I was told if I got 63, which was what I got in 2016, you can't be beaten. The election, people should never be thinking. about an election is fraudulent. We need two things. We need walls. We need, and we have to have it. We have to have borders and we have to have good elections. Our elections are bad. And a lot of these illegal immigrants coming in, they're trying to get them to vote. They can't even speak English.
Starting point is 00:59:11 They don't even know what country they're in practically. And these people are trying to get them to vote. And that's why they're allowing them to come into our country. I did watch all of these pieces of video. I didn't detect the sarcasm, lost by a whisker. We didn't quite make it. And we should just point out here as clarification. And you know this. You and your allies, 60 cases in front of many judges, many of them. No judge looked at it. And said there was no widespread fraud. That's the other thing. They said we didn't have standing, a technicality. Can you imagine a system where a person in an election doesn't have standing? The president of the United States doesn't have standing. That's how we lost. If you look at the facts and I'd love to have
Starting point is 00:59:49 you, you'll do a special on it. I'll show you Georgia and I'll show you, we'll show you, we And I'll show you Pennsylvania and I'll show you. We have so many facts and statistics. But you know what? That doesn't matter because we have to solve the problem that we have right now. That's old news. And the problem that we have right now is we have a nation in decline and they have put it into decline.
Starting point is 01:00:12 We have a nation that is dying, David. Mr. President, thank you. Vice President Harris, you heard the president there tonight. He said he didn't say that he lost by Whiskers. So he still believes he did not lose the election. That was won by President Biden and yourself. But I do want to ask you about something that's come up in the last couple of days. This was a post from President Trump about this upcoming election just weeks away.
Starting point is 01:00:35 He said, when I win, those people who cheated, and then he lists donors, voters, election officials, he says will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, which will include long-term prison sentences. One of your campaign's top lawyers responded saying, we won't let Donald Trump intimidate us, we won't let him suppress the vote. Is that what you believe he's trying to do here? Donald Trump was fired by 81 million people. So let's be clear about that. And clearly he is having a very difficult time processing that. But we cannot afford to have a president of the United States
Starting point is 01:01:09 who attempts, as he did in the past, to upend the will of the voters in a free and fair election. And I'm going to tell you that I have traveled the world as vice president. the United States. And world leaders are laughing at Donald Trump. I have talked with military leaders, some of whom worked with you. And they say you're a disgrace. And when you then talk in this way in a presidential debate and deny what over and over again are court cases you have lost because you did, in fact, lose that election, it leads one to believe that perhaps we do not have in the candidate, to my right, the temperament, or the ability to not be confused about fact.
Starting point is 01:02:00 That's deeply troubling, and the American people deserve better. I'll give you one minute to respond, Mr. President. Let me just tell about world leaders. Victor Orban, one of the most respected men, they call him a strong man. He's a tough person, smart. Prime Minister of Hungary, they said, why is the whole world blowing up? Three years ago it wasn't. Why is it blowing up?
Starting point is 01:02:22 He said, because you need Trump back as president. They were afraid of him. China was afraid, and I don't like to use the word afraid, but I'm just quoting him. China was afraid of him. North Korea was afraid of him. Look at what's going on with North Korea, by the way. He said Russia was afraid of him. I ended the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, and Biden put it back on day one, but he ended the XL pipeline.
Starting point is 01:02:47 The XL pipeline in our country, he ended that. but he let the Russians build a pipeline going all over Europe and heading into Germany, the biggest pipeline in the world. Look, Victor Orban said it. He said the most respected, most feared person is Donald Trump. We had no problems when Trump was president, but when this weak, pathetic man that you saw at a debate just a few months ago that if he weren't in that debate, he'd be running instead of hers, she got no votes, he got 14 million votes. What you did, you talk about a threat. to democracy. He got 14 million votes and they threw him out of office. And you know what? I'll give you a little secret. He hates her. He can't stand her. But he got 14 million votes.
Starting point is 01:03:31 They threw them out. She got zero votes. And when she ran, she was the first one to leave because she failed. And now she's running. I don't understand it, but I'm okay with it because I think we're going to do very well. We've got a lot more to get to. Turning now to the Israel-Hamas war and the hostages who are still being held Americans among them. Vice President Harris, in December, you said, quote, Israel has a right to defend itself, but you added, quote, it matters how, saying international humanitarian law must be respected. Israel must do more to protect innocent civilians. You said that nine months ago, now an estimated 40,000 Palestinians are dead, nearly 100 hostages remain. Just last week, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said there's not a deal in the
Starting point is 01:04:15 making. President Biden has not been able to break through the stalemate. How would you do it? Well, let's understand how we got here. On October 7, Hamas, a terrorist organization, slaughtered 1,200 Israelis. Many of them young people who are simply attending a concert, women were horribly raped. And so absolutely, I said then, I say now, Israel has a right to defend itself. We would, and how it does so matters, because it is also true. Far too many innocent Palestinians have been killed. Children, mothers. What we know is that this war must end.
Starting point is 01:05:02 It must end immediately, and the way it will end is we need a ceasefire deal and we need the hostages out. And so we will continue to work around the clock on that. work around the clock also understanding that we must chart a course for a two-state solution. And in that solution, there must be security for the Israeli people and Israel and in equal measure for the Palestinians. But the one thing I will assure you always, I will always give Israel the ability to defend itself, in particular as it relates to Iran, and any threat that Iran and its proxies posed to Israel. But we must have a two-state solution where we can rebuild Gaza, where the Palestinians have security, self-determination, and the dignity they so rightly deserve.
Starting point is 01:05:53 President Trump, how would you negotiate with Netanyahu and also Hamas in order to get the hostages out and prevent the killing of more innocent civilians in Gaza? If I were president, it would have never started. If I were president, Russia would have never, ever I know Putin very well. He would have never, and there was no threat of it either, by the way, for four years, have gone into Ukraine and killed millions of people when you ended up. Far worse than people understand what's going on over there. But when she mentions about Israel, all of a sudden, she hates Israel. She wouldn't even meet with Netanyahu when he went to Congress to make a very important speech.
Starting point is 01:06:33 She refused to be there because she was at a sorority party of hers. She wanted to go to the sorority party. she hates Israel. If she's president, I believe that Israel will not exist within two years from now. And I've been pretty good at predictions, and I hope I'm wrong about that one. She hates Israel. At the same time, in her own way, she hates the Arab population, because the whole place is going to get blown up.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Arabs, Jewish people, Israel, Israel will be gone. It would have never happened. Iran was broke under Donald. Trump. Now Iran has $300 billion because they took off all the sanctions that I had. Iran had no money for Hamas or Hezbollah or any of the 28 different spheres of terror. And they are spheres of terror, horrible terror. They had no money. It was a big story and you know it. You covered it. Very well, actually. They had no money for terror. They were broke. Now they're a rich nation. And now what they're doing is they're spreading that money around.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Look at what's happening with the Houthis and Yemen. Look at what's going on in the Middle East. This would have never happened. I will get that settled and fast. And I'll get the war with Ukraine and Russia ended. If I'm president-elect, I'll get it done before even becoming president. Vice President Harris, he says you hate Israel. That's absolutely not true.
Starting point is 01:08:02 I have my entire career and life supported Israel and the Israeli people. He knows that he's trying to, again, divide and distract from the reality, which is it is very well known that Donald Trump is weak and wrong on national security and foreign policy. It is well known that he admires dictators, wants to be a dictator on day one, according to himself. It is well known that he said of Putin, that he can do whatever the hell he wants and go into Ukraine. It is well known that he said when Russia went into Ukraine, it was brilliant. It is well known he exchanged love letters with Kim Jong-un. And it is absolutely well known that these dictators and autocrats are rooting for you to be president again because they're so clear they can manipulate you with flattery and favors.
Starting point is 01:09:04 And that is why so many military leaders who you have worked with have told me you are a disgrace. That is why we understand that we have to have a president who is not consistently weak and wrong on national security, including the importance of upholding and respecting in highest regard our military. Vice President Harris, thank you. They're the ones. And she's the one that caused it that's weak on national security by allowing every nation, last month, for the year, 168 different countries sending people into our country. Their crime weights are way down.
Starting point is 01:09:43 Putin endorsed her last week, said, I hope she wins. And I think he meant it because what he's gotten away with is absolutely incredible. It wouldn't have happened with me. The leaders of other countries think that they're weak. and incompetent, and they are. They're grossly incompetent. And I just ask one question, why does Biden go in and kill the Keystone pipeline
Starting point is 01:10:05 and approve the single biggest deal that Russia's ever made Nord Stream 2, the biggest pipeline anywhere in the world going to Germany and all over Europe? Because they're weak and they're ineffective. And Biden, by the way, gets paid a lot of money. Thank you. We have a lot of issues to get to. We'll be right back with much more of this historic ABC News
Starting point is 01:10:23 presidential debate from the National Constitution Center right here in Philadelphia back in a moment. Oh shit. Wow. Wow. I'm not even going to speak because I am fired up. The ABC News president. I'm going to go ahead and silence that. We're going to let everyone else speak because I am fired up right now.
Starting point is 01:10:42 Wow. Oh, my God. So guys, hold on. I'm going to go ahead and remove this. I think, okay, there we are. Guys, everybody, welcome Jake Angley-Chanceley to the live and L. Dave from alienatic podcast. What's up, guys? Okay, listen, first, first thoughts. What is your thoughts on how Camalo's doing and how Trump is doing? Jake, let's start with you. Yeah, I'm sorry I can't stick
Starting point is 01:11:07 around more. I will just say that thank you for having me. And thus far, what I've seen is what I expected it to be. And in all honesty, it's rather disappointing in that it's just talking points back and forth. They're saying the same things that they say about each other behind the scenes in front of a camera while they're both on the same stage. I thought that Donald Trump's performance in 2016 with Hillary Clinton was really good. I even thought his appearance with Biden in 2020, you know, his debates with Biden in 2020, he was pretty good. I think that now he's obviously better than Biden and he's definitely better than Harris, but I can say that I think we, we certainly need to find somebody within the next several years here that is going to take Donald Trump's
Starting point is 01:11:55 if and when he, you know, leaves the presidency in 2028. Because at this point, we really, the Republicans don't have much of a deep bench and all this political talking point stuff, you guys, it's not getting us anywhere. Yeah, for sure. Well, Jake, thank you. I know you can't stay, but thank you so very much for coming on. Dave. Dave, what is your quick thoughts?
Starting point is 01:12:17 And then we're going to get to the live commentary after. Oh, yeah. Well, I think it is, I think she has an earpiece in. I think she has the questions. of time because her answers are leading into the next question consistently and the moderators are stopping she's also falling to standard Marxist policy that she's accusing Donald Trump of everything that she is doing that's why he keeps calling her it's what marks actually said to do he's like you accuse them of what you're doing of what you are that way it breeds confusion and they don't
Starting point is 01:12:46 know what to do about it I think he's staying on point I think she should really go back to service and Willie Brown. Yeah. By the way, are you at a hotel room, Dave? Yep. Okay. Well, I did not know. I wish I was at a hotel room.
Starting point is 01:13:00 I need to get out of here. I want a vacation. Yeah. So what we've seen so far is a lot of, obviously, Kamal Harris is very well prepared. There's zero question about how prepared she is. We knew it. I knew. I told Chad, I said, coming into this, I know they probably gave her every question.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Is she prepared for every answer? Yeah. And just like you said, Dave, and it sets it up for the next question. Yeah. And by the way, I think I'm hearing that they're probably going to have about another 15 minutes maybe or so. I think they're going to get to a couple of hard-hitting questions and it'll be over. But also the thing is what I thought Donald Trump's missed our opportunity here was when they talked about Kamala Harris bragging about all the ex-Republicans that, you know, endorsed her, Dick Cheney and all these other people. Trump should have led with this and said, hey, that's a part of the system.
Starting point is 01:13:56 Just because you were a Republican doesn't mean that you are, you know, God. What about Tosie Gabbard, though? Yeah. What about the people that have gone over to Republicans that hate Democrats now? Look at RFK. Exactly. I thought he missed the opportunity there. And I don't know who advises him on that, but I just wish that someone that advised him said, hey, if they bring this up, make sure you talk about the system.
Starting point is 01:14:19 he might still do that at the end that would be more of a closer than an opener and she probably has a rebuttal for that so if i were him i would save it for the closing they're also not giving him the opportunity to rebut and they're allowing her to skip opportunities to rebutt so that she doesn't have to answer because anytime he takes it off task that she's not prepped with an answer you'll notice she doesn't get a rebuttal like or she won't rebuttal they just move to the next question or the moderators will turn and they're going into it with leading questions attacking trump And it's not even on policy. None of this is on policy. This is all personal digs and gets, which, interestingly enough, doesn't hold the appeal, the left and the mentally ill believe it does because it makes her look weaker to any, like the male voters, they don't operate off of feeling an emotional base set. And she's just constantly given emotional appeals. She doesn't have a logical argument.
Starting point is 01:15:13 It won't hold. It just makes her look weak. I 100% agree with that. What do you guys think about? By the way, I think it's starting. I think it's starting right now. Well, I was going to ask you guys a quick question. What do you think about her new plan that's on her website now?
Starting point is 01:15:28 All right. All of a sudden. Yeah, so it's getting back to debate. It's going to be about 10 or 15 minutes. We're going to have a lot of commentary afterwards. Here we go. To defend their sovereignty, their democracy, that it's in America's best interest to do so, arguing that if Putin wins, he may be emboldened to move even further into other countries.
Starting point is 01:15:48 You have said you would solve this war in 24 hours. You said so just before the break tonight. How exactly would you do that? And I want to ask you a very simple question tonight. Do you want Ukraine to win this war? I want the war to stop. I want to save lives that are being uselessly, people being killed by the millions. It's the millions.
Starting point is 01:16:08 It's so much worse than the numbers that you're getting, which are fake numbers. Look, we're in for 250 billion or more because they don't ask Europe, which is a much bigger beneficiary to getting this thing done. than we are. They're in for $150 billion less because Biden and you don't have the courage to ask Europe like I did with NATO. They paid billions and billions, hundreds of billions of dollars when I said, either you pay up or we're not going to protect you anymore. So that's maybe one of the reasons they don't like me as much as they like weak people. But you take a look at what's happening. We're in for $250 to $275 billion. They're into $100 to $1,000 to $1,000.000.
Starting point is 01:16:53 150. They should be forced to equalize. With that being said, I want to get the war settled. I know Zelensky very well, and I know Putin very well. I have a good relationship, and they respect your president, okay? They respect me. They don't respect Biden. How would you respect him? Why? For what reason? He hasn't even made a phone call in two years to Putin. Hasn't spoken anybody. They don't even try and get it. That is a war that's dying to be settled. I will get it settled before I even become president. If I win, when I'm president-elect, and what I'll do is I'll speak to one, I'll speak to the other, I'll get them together, that war would have never happened. And in fact, when I saw Putin, after I left, unfortunately left because our country has
Starting point is 01:17:38 gone to hell. But after I left, when I saw him building up soldiers, he did it after I left, I said, oh, he must be negotiating. It must be a good strong point of negotiation. Well, it wasn't, because Biden had no idea how to talk to him. He had no idea how to stop it. And now you have millions of people dead. And it's only getting worse. And it could lead to World War III. Don't kid yourself, David.
Starting point is 01:18:02 We're playing with World War III. And we have a president that we don't even know if he's... Where is our president? We don't even know if he's a president. And just to clarify here. They threw him out of a campaign like a dog. We don't even know. Is he our president?
Starting point is 01:18:15 But we have a president... Mr. President... That doesn't know he's alive. Your time is up. Just to clarify in the question, do you believe it's in the U.S. best interest for Ukraine to win this war? Yes or no? I think it's the U.S. best interest to get this war finished and just get it done. Negotiate a deal because we have to stop all of these human lives from being destroyed.
Starting point is 01:18:36 I want to take this to Vice President Harris. I want to get your thoughts on support for Ukraine in this moment. But also, as commander-in-chief, if elected, how would you deal with Vladimir Putin? And would it be any different from what we're seeing from President Biden? Well, first of all, it's important to remind the former president, you're not running against Joe Biden, you're running against me. I believe the reason that Donald Trump says that this war would be over within 24 hours is because he would just give it up. And that's not who we are as Americans. Let's understand what happened here.
Starting point is 01:19:08 I actually met with Zelensky a few days before Russia invaded, tried through force to change territorial boundaries to define. one of the most important international rules and norms, which is the importance of sovereignty and territorial integrity. And I met with President Zelensky. I shared with him American intelligence about how he could defend himself. Days later, I went to NATO's eastern flank to Poland and Romania. And through the work that I and others did, we brought 50 countries together to support Ukraine in its righteous defense. And because of our support, because of the air defense, the ammunition, the artillery, the javelins, the Abrams tanks that we have provided, Ukraine stands as an independent and free country. If Donald Trump were president, Putin would be
Starting point is 01:20:01 sitting in Kiev right now. And understand what that would mean, because Putin's agenda is not just about Ukraine. Understand why the European allies and our NATO allies are so thankful that you are no longer president and that we understand the importance of the greatest military alliance the world has ever known, which is NATO, and what we have done to preserve the ability of Zelensky and the Ukrainians to fight for their independence. Otherwise, Putin would be sitting in Kiev with his eyes on the rest of Europe, starting with Poland. And why don't you tell the 800,000 Polish Americans right here in Pennsylvania, how quickly you would give up for the sake of favor and what you think is a friendship with what is known to be a dictator who would eat you
Starting point is 01:20:52 for lunch. Vice President Harris, thank you. We've heard from both of you on Ukraine tonight. Afghanistan came up in the last hour. I wanted her to respond to something you said earlier. And please, I'll give you a minute here. Putin would be sitting in Moscow and he wouldn't have lost 300,000 men and women, but he would have been sitting in Moscow, quiet, please.
Starting point is 01:21:14 he would have been sitting in Moscow, much happier than he is right now. But eventually, you know, he's got a thing that other people don't have. He's got nuclear weapons. They don't ever talk about that. He got nuclear weapons. Nobody ever thinks about that. And eventually, maybe he'll use him and maybe hasn't been that threatening. But he does have that.
Starting point is 01:21:35 Something we don't even like to talk about. Nobody likes to talk about it. But just so you understand, they sent her to negotiate peace before this war started. Three days later, he went in and he started the war because everything they said was weak and stupid. They said the wrong things that war should have never started. She was the emissary. They sent her in to negotiate with Zelensky and Putin. And she did.
Starting point is 01:22:02 And the war started three days later. And that's the kind of talent we have with her. She's worse than Biden. In my opinion, I think he's the worst president in the history of our country. She goes down as the worst vice president in the history. of our country. But let me tell you something. She is a horrible negotiator. They sent her in to negotiate as soon as they left to Putin did the invasion. President Trump, thank you. You did bring up something. You said she went to negotiate with Vladimir Putin. Vice President Harris,
Starting point is 01:22:28 have you ever met Vladimir Putin? Can you clarify tonight? Yet again, I said at the beginning of this debate, you're going to hear a bunch of lies come in from this fellow. And that is another one. When I went to meet with President Zelensky, I've now met with him over five times. The reality is it has been about standing as America always should, as a leader upholding international rules and norms, as a leader who shows strength, understanding that the alliances we have around the world are dependent on our ability to look out for our friends and not favor our enemies because you adore strongmen instead of caring about democracy. And that is very much what is at stake here.
Starting point is 01:23:14 The president of the United States is commander-in-chief. And the American people have a right to rely on a president who understands the significance of America's role and responsibility in terms of ensuring that there is stability and ensuring we stand up for our principles and not sell them for the benefit of personal flattery. We've talked about Ukraine and Vladimir Putin. I do want to talk about Afghanistan. It came up in the first hour of this debate. I wanted to move on to Afghanistan. Trump did the most amazing thing I've ever seen. He got these countries, the 28 countries at the time, to pay up.
Starting point is 01:23:56 He said, I've never seen. He's the head of NATO. He said, I've never seen. For years, we were paying almost all of NATO. We were being ripped off by European nations, both on trade and on NATO. I got them to pay up by saying, one of the statements you made before, if you don't pay, we're not going to protect you.
Starting point is 01:24:14 Otherwise, we would have never gotten it. He said it was one of the most incredible jobs that he's ever seen done. Thank you. I want to turn to Afghanistan. It came up in the first hour of the debate, and we witnessed a poignant moment today on Capitol Hill honoring the soldiers
Starting point is 01:24:26 who died in the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan. I do want to ask the Vice President, do you believe you bear any responsibility in the way that withdrawal played out? Well, I will tell you, I agreed with President Biden's decision. to pull out of Afghanistan. Four presidents said they would, and Joe Biden did. And as a result, America's taxpayers are not paying the $300 million a day. We were paying for that endless war.
Starting point is 01:24:53 And as of today, there is not one member of the United States military who is in active duty in a combat zone in any war zone around the world the first time this century. But let's understand and how we got to where we are. Donald Trump, when he was president, negotiated one of the weakest deals you can imagine. He calls himself a dealmaker, even his national security advisor said it was a weak, terrible deal. And here's how it went down. He bypassed the Afghan government. He negotiated directly with a terrorist organization called the Taliban.
Starting point is 01:25:31 The negotiation involved the Taliban getting 5,000 terrorists, Taliban terrorists released. least. And get this, no, get this. And the president at the time invited the Taliban to Camp David, a place of storied significance for us as Americans, a place where we honor the importance of American diplomacy, where we invite and receive respected world leaders. And this former president, as president, invited them to Camp David because he does not again appreciate the role and responsibility of the President of the United States to be Commander-in-Chief with a level of respect. And this gets back to the point of how he has consistently disparaged and demeaned members of our military, fallen soldiers,
Starting point is 01:26:28 and the work that we must do to uphold the strength and the respect of the United States of America around the world. Vice President Harris, thank you. President Trump, your response to her saying that you began the negotiations for the Taliban. So if you take a look at that period of time, the Taliban was killing our soldiers, a lot of them, with snipers. And I got involved with the Taliban because the Taliban was doing the killing. That's the fighting force within Afghanistan. They don't bother doing that because, you know, they deal with the wrong people all the time. But I got involved.
Starting point is 01:27:03 And Abdul is the head of the Taliban. and he is still the head of the Taliban. And I told Abdul, don't do it anymore. You do it anymore. You're going to have problems. And he said, why do you send me a picture of my house? I said, you're going to have to figure that out, Abdul. And for 18 months, we had nobody killed.
Starting point is 01:27:20 We did have an agreement negotiated by Mike Pompeo. It was a very good agreement. The reason it was good, it was, we were getting out. We would have been out faster than them, but we wouldn't have lost the soldiers. We wouldn't have left many Americans behind. and we wouldn't have left, we wouldn't have left $85 billion worth of brand new, beautiful, military equipment behind. And just to finish, they blew it. The agreement said you have to do this, this, this, this, this.
Starting point is 01:27:48 And they didn't do it. They didn't do it. The agreement was terminated by us because they didn't do what they were supposed to do. I want to move on. And these people did the worst withdrawal. And in my opinion, the most important. A embarrassing moment in the history of our country. And by the way, that's why Russia attacked Ukraine because they saw how incompetent she
Starting point is 01:28:11 and her boss are. President Trump, thank you. I want to move on now to race and politics in this country. Mr. President, you recently said a Vice President Harris quote, I didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black, and now she wants to be known as black. I want to ask a bigger picture question here tonight. Why do you believe it's appropriate to weigh in on the racial identity of your
Starting point is 01:28:33 opponent. I don't, and I don't care. I don't care what she is. I don't care. You make a big deal out of something. I couldn't care less. Whatever she wants to be is okay with me. But those were your word, so I'm asking. I don't know. I mean, all I can say is I read where she was not black that she put out, and I'll say that, and then I read that she was black, and that's okay. Either one was okay with me. That's up to her. That's up to her. Vice President Harris, your thoughts on this? I think it's, I mean, honestly, I think it's a tragedy that we have someone who wants to be president who has consistently over the course of his career attempted to use race to divide
Starting point is 01:29:18 the American people. You know, I do believe that the vast majority of us know that we have so much more in common than what separates us, and we don't want this kind of approach that is just constantly trying to divide us, and especially by race. And let's remember how Donald Trump started. He was a land. He owned land. He owned buildings.
Starting point is 01:29:41 And he was investigated because he refused to rent property to black families. Let's remember, this is the same individual who took out a full page ad in the New York Times calling for the execution of five young black and Latino. boys who were innocent, the Central Park Five, took out a full-page ad calling for their execution. This is the same individual who spread birth or lies about the first black president of the United States. And I think the American people want better than that, want better than this, want someone who understands as I do, I travel our country. We see in each other a friend, we see in each other a neighbor. We don't want a leader who is constantly trying to have Americans point their fingers at each other. I meet with people all the time who tell me,
Starting point is 01:30:46 can we please just have discourse about how we're going to invest in the aspirations and the ambitions and the dreams of the American people? Knowing that regardless of people's color or the language their grandmother speaks, we all have the same dreams and aspirations and want a president who invest in those, not in hate and division. Vice President Harris. Thank you. Lindsay. President Trump, this is now your third time. This is the most divisive presidency in the history of our country. There's never been anything like it. They're destroying our country and they come up with things like what she just said. Going back many, many years, when a A lot of people, including Mayor Bloomberg, agreed with me on the Central Park Five.
Starting point is 01:31:32 They admitted. They said they pled guilty. And I said, well, if they pled guilty, they'd badly hurt a person, killed a person, ultimately. And if they pled guilty, then they pled, we're not guilty. But this is a person that has to stretch back years, 40, 50 years ago, because there's nothing now. I built one of the greatest economies in the history of the world. And I'm going to build it again. It's going to be bigger, better, and stronger. But they're destroying our economy.
Starting point is 01:32:02 They have no idea what a good economy is. Their oil policies, every single policy. And remember this. She is Biden. She's trying to get away from Biden. I don't know the gentleman, she says. She is Biden. The worst inflation we've ever had a horrible economy
Starting point is 01:32:19 because inflation has made it so bad and she can't get away with that. Thank you. Time is up. I want to respond to that, though. I want to just respond. briefly. Clearly, I am not Joe Biden, and I am certainly not Donald Trump. And what I do offer is a new generation of leadership for our country. One who believes in what is possible, one who brings a sense of optimism about what we can do instead of always disparaging the American people.
Starting point is 01:32:51 I believe in what we can do to strengthen our small businesses, which is why I have. a plan. Let's talk about our plans and let's compare the plans. I have a plan to give startup businesses $50,000 tax deduction to pursue their ambitions, their innovation, their ideas, their hard work. I have a plan, $6,000 for young families for the first year of your child's life to help you in that most critical stage of your child's development. I have a plan that is about allowing people to be able to pursue what has been fleeting in terms of the American dream by offering a help with down payment of $25,000 down payment assistance for first-time home buyers. That's the kind of conversation, I believe, David, that people really want tonight
Starting point is 01:33:45 as opposed to a conversation that is constantly about belittling and name-calling. Let's turn the page Vice President Harris. Thank you. Let's turn to policy. We have to move on. President Trump. Let's turn to policy, please. She has a plan to defund the police.
Starting point is 01:34:03 She has a plan to confiscate everybody's gun. President Trump, we do have to move on to other issues. She has a plan to not allow fracking in Pennsylvania or anywhere else. Okay. That's what her plan is until just recent. I just need to. The former president has said something twice that I need to respond to. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:34:19 I'm going to respond. One time to what he has said multiple times. This is now your third time running for president. You have long vowed to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare. You have failed to accomplish that. You now say you're going to keep Obamacare, quote, unless we can do something much better. Last month, you said, quote, we're working on it. So tonight, nine years after you first started running, do you have a plan?
Starting point is 01:34:44 And can you tell us what it is? Obama care was lousy health care. Always was, it's not very good today. and what I said, that if we come up with something and we are working on things, we're going to do it and we're going to replace it. But remember this, I inherited Obamacare because Democrats wouldn't change it. They wouldn't vote for it. They were unanimous. They wouldn't vote to change it.
Starting point is 01:35:05 If they would have done that, we would have had a much better plan than Obamacare. But the Democrats came up. They wouldn't vote for it. I had a choice to make when I was president. Do I save it and make it as good as it can be? Never going to be great. or do I let it rot? And I felt I had an obligation, even though politically it would have been good to just let it rot and let it go away.
Starting point is 01:35:27 I decided, and I told my people, the top people, and they're very good people. I have a lot of good people in that administration. We read about the bad ones. We had some real bad ones, too, and so do they. They have really bad ones. The differences they don't get rid of them. But let me just explain. I had a choice to make, do I save it and make it as good as it can be, or do I let it rot?
Starting point is 01:35:47 and I saved it. I did the right thing. But it's still never going to be great and it's too expensive for people. And what we will do is we're looking at different plans. If we can come up with a plan that's going to cost our people, our population, less money and be better health care than Obamacare, then I would absolutely do it. But until then, I'd run it as good as it can be run. So just a yes or no, you still do not have a plan. I have concepts of a plan. I'm not president right now. But if we come up with something, I would only change it if we come up with something that's better and less expensive. And there are concepts and options we have to do that. And you'll be hearing about it in the not too distant future. Vice President Harris, in 2017,
Starting point is 01:36:35 you supported Bernie Sanders' proposal to do away with private insurance and create a government-run health care system. Two years later, you proposed a plan that included a private insurance option. What is your plan today? Well, first of all, I absolutely support, and over the last four years as vice president, private health care options, but what we need to do is maintain and grow the Affordable Care Act. But I'll get to that, Lindsay. I just need to respond to a previous point that the former president has made. I've made very clear my position on fracking. And then this business about taking everyone's guns away, Tim Walz and I are both gun owners. We're not taking anybody's guns away.
Starting point is 01:37:10 So stop with the continuous lying about this stuff. As it relates to the Affordable Care Act, understand, just look at the history to know where people stand. When Donald Trump was president, 60 times he tried to get rid of the Affordable Care Act. 60 times. I was a senator at the time when I will never forget the early morning hours when it was up for a vote in the United States Senate. And the late great John McCain, who you have disparaged as being a, You don't like him, you said, at the time, because he got caught. He was an American hero.
Starting point is 01:37:48 The late great John McCain, I will never forget that night, walked onto the Senate floor and said, no, you don't. No, you don't. No, you don't get rid of the Affordable Care Act. You have no plan. And what the Affordable Care Act has done is eliminate the ability of insurance companies to deny people with preexisting conditions. I don't have to tell the people watching tonight. You remember what that was like? remember when an insurance company could deny
Starting point is 01:38:15 if a child had asthma, if someone was a breast cancer survivor, if a grandparent had diabetes? And thankfully, as I've been vice president and we over the last four years have strengthened the Affordable Care Act, we have allowed for the first time Medicare to negotiate drug prices
Starting point is 01:38:33 on behalf of you, the American people. Donald Trump said he was going to allow Medicare to negotiate drug prices. He never did. We did. And now we have capitalized. cost of insulin at $35 a month. Since I've been Vice President, we have capped the cost of prescription medication for seniors at $2,000 a year. And when I am president, we will do that for all people understanding that the value I bring to this is that access to health care should
Starting point is 01:38:59 be a right and not just a privilege of those who can afford it. And the plan has to be to strengthen the Affordable Care Act, not get rid of it. Fast as prologue in terms of where Donald Trump stands on that. I want to move to an issue that's important for a lot of... She made a mistake. At number one, John McCain fought Obamacare for 10 years, but it wasn't only him. It were all of the Democrats that kept it going. And you know what? We can do much better than Obamacare, much less money. But she won't improve private insurance for people, private medical insurance. That's another thing she doesn't want to get. People are paying privately for insurance that have worked hard, and made money and they want to have private.
Starting point is 01:39:44 She wants everybody to be on government insurance where you wait six months for an operation that you need immediately. President Trump, thank you. We have another issue that we'd like to get to that's important for a number of Americans, in particular younger voters, and that's climate change. President Trump, with regard to the environment,
Starting point is 01:40:00 you say that we have to have clean air and clean water. Vice President Harris, you call climate change an existential threat. The question to you both tonight is what would you do to fight climate change and Vice President Harris will start with you, one minute for you each. Well, the former president had said the climate change is a hoax. And what we know is that it is very real.
Starting point is 01:40:22 You ask anyone who lives in a state who has experienced these extreme weather occurrences who now is either being denied home insurance or is being jacked up. You ask anybody who has been the victim of what that means in terms of losing their home, having nowhere to go. We know that we can actually deal with this. issue, the young people of America care deeply about this issue. And I am proud that as vice president over the last four years, we have invested a trillion dollars in a clean energy economy while we have also increased domestic gas production to historic levels. We have created over 800,000 new manufacturing
Starting point is 01:41:01 jobs while I have been vice president. We have invested in clean energy to the point that we are opening up factories around the world. Donald Trump said he was going to create manufacturing jobs, he lost manufacturing jobs. And I'm also proud to have the endorsement of the United Auto Workers and Sean Fane, who also know that part of building a clean energy economy includes investing in American made products, American automobiles. It includes growing what we can do around American manufacturing and opening up auto plants, not closing them like happened under Donald Trump. Vice President Harris, thank you. It didn't happen under Donald Trump. Let me just tell you.
Starting point is 01:41:41 They lost 10,000 manufacturing jobs this last month. It's going, they're all leaving. They're building big auto plants in Mexico. In many cases, owned by China, they're building these massive plants, and they think they're going to sell their cars into the United States because of these people. What they have given to China is unbelievable. But we're not going to let that.
Starting point is 01:42:05 We'll put tariffs on those cars so they can't come into our country because they will kill the United Auto Workers and any auto worker, whether it's in Detroit or South Carolina or any other place, what they've done to business and manufacturing in this country is horrible. We have nothing because they refuse. You know, Biden doesn't go after people because supposedly China paid millions of dollars. He's afraid to do it between him and his son. They get all this money from Ukraine.
Starting point is 01:42:34 They get all this money from all of these different countries. And then you wonder, why is he so loyal to this one, that one, Ukraine? China. Why is he? Why did he get three and a half million dollars from the mayor of Moscow's wife? Why did he get, why did she pay him three and a half million dollars? This is a crooked administration and they're selling our country down the tubes. President Trump, thank you. Thank you. We'll be right back with closing statements from both of our candidates. An historic night this ABC News presidential debate from Philadelphia. Back at a moment. All righty. I'm going to go and take that off.
Starting point is 01:43:12 news presidential debate will continue and i'm going to go ahead and put us back on hold on one second i'm going to take us off full screen by the way everybody um oh i just hit it full screen uh for those that do not understand what we are doing right now i'm just saying i have my popcorn sherry has popcorn on the live stream right now as we promised we are getting ready for the closing arguments and so we'll see how that plays out but man there's so much to say here Dave, how do you think it's going since our last break? I think it's a shit show. It's unbelievable, man.
Starting point is 01:43:49 Like the sad thing here, and I've said it on the show with you guys before, and I've said it in other shows, as long as we're talking, right, there's no blood being spilled. Once we stop talking, blood begins to be spilled. We're moving towards a moment that the talking is going to stop. How many more times will Trump or people on his party continue to talk? He's not debating one person. He's debating three. The questions are obviously set up.
Starting point is 01:44:16 They're obviously leading. It appears that she has an earpiece. All of her attacks are personal, sensational, and emotional. None of them has anything to do with policy or logic. And she continues to reiterate the same things that anyone who listens to the news and there's a news hound like us knows to be false. And the most disrespectful thing about it, if you're a Democrat listening, Democrats are supposed to be the party of the working class, the little guy, the mom and pop,
Starting point is 01:44:41 keeping groceries down, trying to take care of your kids. She doesn't give a shit about any of that. Her under her as vice president right now, under her, they give $28 to $85 million a week to the Taliban. All right. They're giving billions to Ukraine. What does it matter? Ukraine has nothing to do with the U.S. It has nothing to do with the U.S.
Starting point is 01:45:03 Whether they're occupied, they win, they lose, they fold. It will not affect us in any way. We are America, not Ukraine. It makes zero sense. And God darn it, I don't think any of this would have happened if Trump were the president like he was supposed to be. And the election wasn't stolen the first time. I'm sorry. I don't think any of this would be happening right now.
Starting point is 01:45:26 You're 100% right, Sherry. And by the way, I want to ask Dave this as well. When we're talking about Russia, Ukraine, and one of the things she said here was that, you know, Putin would eat you for lunch. Oh, my God. Are you kidding me? Yeah, that was her statement. right okay so let's think about this for a second sorry guys i'm heeded i get you're definitely heath so russia and putin would eat you for lunch donald trump now we knew that they wanted to
Starting point is 01:45:51 invade ukraine at some point in time if ukraine moved more towards nato if ukraine continued to have the bio labs at the border also also potentially were housing weapons of the united States or NATO in their country. And then as Donald Trump says, three days before Russia invaded Ukraine, you met with Zelensky. And he said Putin and Zelensky, but in reality, wait, hold on. Don't forget, Zelensky was put into presidency by our government. Essentially, yes.
Starting point is 01:46:24 We cannot forget that. But she met with Zelensky. And what did that conversation entail? That conversation entailed that they promised Ukraine. essentially to join NATO. So instead of going over there and saying, hey, guys, listen, we got to start tampering down on some of the rhetoric. We don't want you to be invaded by Russia.
Starting point is 01:46:48 We're going to try to prevent that. And to the point is like, why didn't she meet with Putin? Why wasn't she meeting with Putin and saying, look, Putin? Because she knew she was going to be eaten alive. I understand that, that, you know, we've not had the best relationship, the United States and Russia, mostly, by the way, on behalf of the United States is why their relationship has been shit for a very long time. But the very least, she didn't meet with Putin because that's not their agenda.
Starting point is 01:47:15 That's not their goal. And that's not what pays them millions of dollars in their pockets by their bureaucrats. In particular, the military industrial complex, which is going to supply all these billions of dollars worth of weapons to Ukraine. So it makes complete sense. Putin is saying to Americans, listen, we know what a show. shit show it is over there. We will allow you come to
Starting point is 01:47:38 our country. Yeah, that's crazy. I mean, this is what's happening. Putin's asking people from America. If you don't like what's going on in America, come to Russia. And Dave, so, this is what's happening. So Dave, here's my question briefly. Do you think it's a good thing?
Starting point is 01:47:53 And I think it's coming back on. Do you think it's a good thing that how Trump treated Russia versus Kamala and Biden? Yeah, he obviously did a better job. they didn't go to war there. In fact, what's going on there started in 2013, but we can go back later. I agree.
Starting point is 01:48:11 All right, here we go, guys. Here is the debate. One that is focused on the future and the other that is focused on the past and an attempt to take us backward. But we're not going back. And I do believe that the American people know we all have so much more in common than what separates us. And we can chart a new way forward.
Starting point is 01:48:32 And a vision of that includes having a plan, understanding the aspirations, the dreams, the hopes, the ambition of the American people, which is why I intend to create an opportunity economy, investing in small businesses, in new families, in what we can do around protecting seniors, what we can do that is about giving hardworking folks a break and bringing down the cost of living. I believe in what we can do together. That is about sustaining America's standing in the world. She's Martin Luther King now. And ensuring that we have the respect that we so rightly deserve, including, respecting our military, and ensuring we have the most lethal fighting force in the world. I will be a president that will protect our fundamental rights and freedoms, including the right of a woman to make decisions about her own body and not have her government tell her what to do. I'll tell you, I started my career as a prosecutor. I was a DA, I was an attorney general, a United States senator, and now vice president.
Starting point is 01:49:37 I've only had one client, the people. And I'll tell you, as a prosecutor, I never asked a victim or a witness, are you a Republican or a Democrat? The only thing I ever asked them, are you okay? And that's the kind of president we need right now, someone who cares about you and is not putting themselves first. I intend to be a president for all Americans and focus on what we can do over the next 10 and 20 years to build back up our country by investing right now in you, the American people. Vice President Harris, thank you. President Trump. So she just started by saying she's going to do this, she's going to do that, she's going to do all these wonderful things. Why hasn't she done it? She's been there for three and a half years. They've had three and a half years.
Starting point is 01:50:27 they've had three and a half years to fix the border. They've had three and a half years to create jobs and all the things we talked about. Why hasn't she done it? She should leave right now, go down to that beautiful White House, go to the Capitol, get everyone together and do the things you want to do, but you haven't done it and you won't do it
Starting point is 01:50:47 because you believe in things that the American people don't believe in. You believe in things like we're not going to frack, we're not going to take fossil fuel, We're not going to do things that are going to make this country strong, whether you like it or not. Germany tried that, and within one year they were back to building normal energy plants. We're not ready for it. We can't sacrifice our country for the sake of bad vision. But I just ask one simple question, why didn't she do it?
Starting point is 01:51:18 We're a failing nation. We're a nation that's in serious decline. We're being left at all over the world, all over the world. all over the world they're left. I know the leaders very well. They're coming to see me. They call me. We're left at all over the world. They don't understand what happened to us as a nation. We're not a leader. We don't have any idea what's going on. We have wars going on in the Middle East. We have wars going on with Russia and Ukraine. We're going to end up in a third world war. And it'll be a war like no other because of nuclear weapons, the power of weaponry.
Starting point is 01:51:51 I rebuilt our entire military. She gave a lot of it away to the Taliban. She gave it to Afghanistan. What these people have done to our country, and maybe toughest of all is allowing millions of people to come into our country. Many of them are criminals, and they're destroying our country, the worst president, the worst vice president in the history of our country. President Trump, thank you. and that is our ABC News presidential debate from here in Philadelphia at the National Constitution Center. I'm Lindsay Davis.
Starting point is 01:52:26 And I'm David Muir. Thank you for watching here in the U.S. and all over the world and from all of us here at ABC News. Thank you guys for watching all over the world. Yeah, I'm giving you a thumbs up. By the way, this is, they were televised from the Constitution Center. And they had Kamala Harris in there. Thumbs up. Which I have to say, I think they did a pretty good job.
Starting point is 01:52:47 Yeah, they did. but I know that she had the questions beforehand. Well, but he didn't need them. As Dave said, though, you know, I don't know if you guys noticed. You could see one earring, but you can not see the other side. Does she have an earpiece? And what are the rules for that, I guess, Dave, is the question.
Starting point is 01:53:05 They can't. They can't have an earpiece. They, like, they agreed it whether they can have notes or not. They agreed no notes. She shouldn't have an earpiece because you could also see when they would put her on camera. She would snap up and change her. She was aware that she was on. camera. How is she aware? So I don't think the moderators did a very good job. I think it was
Starting point is 01:53:24 really one on dirt one on two. The gentleman kept chiming in. He was obviously guiding and directing the questions and the narrative in the way that Camilla had been prepped for. Yeah. This whole thing was to make her look likable. Her voice grates on your nerves. She's constantly irritating. The fact is they changed podium sizes so that she wouldn't look smaller than Trump. And the kicker is they're obviously filming Trump from a lower angle to make him look squinty and make his fake slip distorted. If I would bet you that they're even color distorting because his camera didn't change and he looked a weird tent. Well, you remember Joe Rogan when So did his background versus hers. I think of the days to come out, people will pull all those out.
Starting point is 01:54:10 Yeah, you went out for a second. But yeah. So Dave, Dave is in a hotel room. I'm going to tell you this is what Kamala reminds me of. Yes, this is the operator. You dialed zero. What could I do to help you? No, but listen. Listen, let's get to some real issues here, Sherry.
Starting point is 01:54:29 I'm serious, though. I know. Her nasalness just gets to me. I get it. But listen, so let's get us some real issue. She's talking about freedom. A woman's right to choose. Well, number one, Roe v. Wade was when the Supreme Court overturned.
Starting point is 01:54:44 Roe versus Wade, it took it back to the states, which is where it was supposed to be. Yes. It's not out, it's not outlawing abortions. There are some states, hold on. This is what people don't understand about the whole thing, though, is that Trump put it with the states where it should be. It should not be with the federal government, because if it's a federal government, it's one law all over the place. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:10 Yeah, you're right. But what I'm saying is here is that how she wants to talk. so boisterly about freedoms when literally the Democrat Party under the Joe Biden administration has done everything to try to take away your freedoms, their rhetoric, their speeches, what they talk to their base when they say, such as Kamala Harris talks about, we want to take away guns, we want to have an assault weapons ban from day one. And in particular, when she specifically says, and they've asked her this on shows where they say, Are you willing to do a buyback?
Starting point is 01:55:49 No, no, no, no, but not even just a buyback. A door-to-door type confus, constivac. Oh, you sound like me, Chad. Confiscation. Confiscation. Now, you can't say it. Confiscation. But listen, what I'm saying is, is that they want to do this.
Starting point is 01:56:08 She's made this very clear. She has talked about that she wants to do this. She wants to take your guns. and she wants to do it forcefully if need be. So this whole bullshit rhetoric when she talks about freedoms for women and freedoms for abortion and freedoms for this, that's the only thing that they are playing into the freedom aspect of this because everything else, the Democrats will want to take away your freedoms.
Starting point is 01:56:29 Dave, what is your thoughts on just that part in general? I think whatever they say is a lie. Like they say the opposite of what they want to do. If they're accusing him of these things, then they're not true because they wouldn't be accusing him of them. And you're right. He bringing it back to the states. He, I thought he covered that very well. It is a state's right issue. It isn't a federal issue. We need to pull federal government out. Federal government needs to shrink. The overreach and overstepped and overgrowth of the federal government is getting dangerous. Yeah. It absolutely is. She talked about Charlottesville.
Starting point is 01:57:05 She talked about the border. She talked about a militia. And when she specifically brought up a militia, where supposedly she said that Donald Trump was behind this militia. Are you talking about January 6th? Well, it's no. Well, yes, the January 6th militia, the proud boys or whoever. What they wanted to do with the January 6th, in particular, your proud boys, which was I guess a militia. I'm not even sure. In my opinion, that whole deal could be a government sciop setup type deal to where they want you to look at militias as people that
Starting point is 01:57:41 coordinate and plan things such as January 6th. Oh my God. And, but listen, the reality of what, what, what, uh, militia is in the second amendment of our constitution says a well regulated militia. And the reason why you are allowed to have that as an American citizen is that when and in the event that a government becomes tyrannical and goes against your rights and your freedoms and everything that you hold dear as you as an American citizen to your country, you are afforded.
Starting point is 01:58:11 the right to enact or organize a militia to protect your God-given rights by God and the Constitution are found in fathers, and that is why a militia is necessary and needed. But they are now trying to demonize militias because they want you to believe that militias are the same thing as a terrorist organization. Now, could they be in certain scenarios? Absolutely. But the reality is is that when you are given a constitutional right and they're trying to demonize it such as a militia, which is what Kamala Harris did tonight. She made sure of that by saying the proud boys and he got behind a militia. That's how she said it.
Starting point is 01:58:54 Chad, did you realize that you and I are on militia right now? Well, we're not because we're not three. Well, we're training with our dog. It's three or more is what the new. Yeah, well, it's three or more. Dave, what is your thoughts on the militia aspect of this? as well. I think that's showing some policy that she, the adamant, the way she was so adamant about that,
Starting point is 01:59:16 I think that shows policy you're going to be seeing coming from the Biden administration before this election. As far as proud boys, oathkeepers, it's been outed multiple times of the people in the top tiers of those are federal informants. Mm-hmm. Absolutely. Yeah, it's, it does, it's not going to end well. this rhetoric doesn't end well
Starting point is 01:59:40 taking away the ability to have dialogue and conversation open pathways of communication between opposing view sides isn't good if you look at like X or other social media you can see friends and family some people are like Campbell 1 she's amazing I don't know how you can take that away and people are like Trump dominated
Starting point is 01:59:59 it's like I don't know how you can take that away yeah people are pulling from their own personal biases there is no more middle ground to have a conversation. It's eroding. And I don't know how much of it matters anymore, giving the influx of illegals. I'm in a city right now that's overrun with homeless and illegals. It's unbelievable. This is unbelievable what's going on.
Starting point is 02:00:22 It has killed this whole city. And it's coming to a city near you. Oh, I think it's already with us. I mean, and what is your thoughts? I mean, just when how much Kamala Harris props up NATO, right? the biggest military alliance in the world and and specifically how she talks against our enemies right she says our enemies russia north korea and if you are a president of the united states you are not allowed to be friends with our enemies because if you are or not even friends just
Starting point is 02:00:55 you're not you're not even allowed to be cordial with our enemies you must hate and want to destroy them at all cost that is what kamala portrayed to me tonight Yeah, she has an IQ of 65. I mean, I mean, seriously, she's, she is a functional tard. To be able to say things like that. Like, first off, she talks about how she's been a public servant all these years. She's a multi, multi, multi, multi millionaire who's only ever worked as government service pay great. How did that happen?
Starting point is 02:01:31 Nobody, nobody talks about that. As far as what's going forward, like, this is my enemy and this is my enemy and this is what I'm going to do. That is ridiculous rhetoric. That is only damaging. It is only hurtful. It is only dangerous to the American people. That is not how we get through. Talking is how we get through. She's laying out a path. That only ends in conflict and blood. And what does she care? You know, she's a sociopath. Yeah. I mean, look at the video that's come out with her and Willie Brown and what she was doing when she was attorney general. When she was a prosecutor, she is evil to the core. Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:02:08 I want to bring up the bloodbath for a minute because they always use the bloodbath thing on Trump when he said it's going to be a bloodbath. But he was talking about China and the economic response that was happening if you, you know, saw that video in whole. But when they say, oh, yeah, he's talking about a bloodbath. If Democrats take over like we are, it's going to be a bloodbath. This is what he wants. Oh, wow. And you know what, Sherry, the funny thing as you're asking this, do you remember when the bloodbath comment came out?
Starting point is 02:02:45 Yeah, I remember. And you remember when we looked up the definition of what a blood bath is. It was economic something. Yes, it was. Yes. Guess what you look up, guess what happens if you look up blood bath definition now? What is it now? And it says, and this is on Wikipedia and Google and all this stuff.
Starting point is 02:03:01 Now it says an event or situation in which many people are killed in a violent manner. Oh, my gosh. gosh but he was actually talking about economic like distress i know but listen of our country 100 percent and that is an actual definition but my point was when he said it like it was a day or two later when they when the media ran with it and he talked about bloodbath we looked it up on google and the number one definition of it was was something to do with economic bloodbath it was an economic bloodbath now if you look it up on google it talks about a bloodbath it talks about a blood bloodbath in a violent manner to where people and multiple more killed.
Starting point is 02:03:40 Yeah, but that's the system. They change it. And then so now- It's like Fauci. It changes gang of function, for example. Freaking-Looley they did. When Falki was being questioned in Congress and the NIH's definition of gang of function, well, then they went and changed it because they changed it to what fitted to the narrative of what
Starting point is 02:04:02 Falsi was saying in Congress. Now exactly the same thing. blood bath definition live right now. And let me make sure. Let me just make sure. This is crazy. Yeah. An event or situation in which many people are killed in a violent manner.
Starting point is 02:04:18 That's literally the now definition of a blood bath. But we looked it up like six, eight months ago and it was talking about an economic distress thing or whatever. Yeah. So the other, so this is if you actually look it up, blood back, blood bath economic definition. A bloodbath is a major economic disaster or market bloodbath. Sentinemes for bloodbath include massacre and death. But regardless, they have changed what your parents or someone that is uninformed are going to go. And listen, they're like, oh, he wants a bloodbath.
Starting point is 02:04:53 But listen, we also have to remember that as Trump was talking about this particular topic, he was talking about it in a economic subject. and that's when he used the term bloodbath. Because guess what? Because guess what? When a guy like Trump that is all business understands the word bloodbath and what that actually means for the economy, he's going to use words like this. And so, of course, they used it against him.
Starting point is 02:05:23 And, you know, should Trump have used a different word, especially consider and he did not 100% fully understand? I don't think he thinks about that all the time. Yeah. Dave, let me just ask you this. what before we even see any reactions for anything and sherry and i are probably going to go on i know you're on a hotel room and and i want to know i want you to tell me about what you think about project 2025 because this is what they talk about all the time and trump says i'm not with it i
Starting point is 02:05:52 refuse to read it but tell me about what it is and why it's so bad it's a hyper right document that is to guide the Trump policy. It's very handmade tale-esque. It's extreme. I truly believe if you look into the roots and who put the funding behind it, you'll find that it was probably funded by some NGOs, you know, non-governmental international organization that paid to have this done and associated with Trump.
Starting point is 02:06:25 The fact that she continued to associate it with it means it's definitely on the left. Like if it was really a right, they would call it out. They would call who wrote it. They don't. They just put it out there, kind of like the Russia hoax report and the steel dossier, right? Yeah. That it was all about Trump, all about Trump, all about Trump. It had nothing to do with Trump.
Starting point is 02:06:42 It was totally fictitious. It came from an M.I.6 spy that was paid by the Clinton found. Mm-hmm. To make this thing happen as part of the play. And FBI knew about it. Like if you read American Gangster by Cash Patel, fantastic book. I highly recommend everyone read it. You can really see the inner workings of the swamp and what's going on.
Starting point is 02:07:01 And Cash Patel was one of the ones who broke that, stuck it. to steal and made sure it stuck to him forever. Yeah, absolutely. Well, Dave, listen, we don't want to keep you on any longer because I know you're in a hotel. You're with your. Yeah, have fun. I'm so jealous and envious. I want to be there.
Starting point is 02:07:18 I don't know. I've been texting Dave during this debate. I don't know if we want to be there or not in that city anyway. Well, I want to be somewhere other than our home. Yeah. We're going somewhere soon. and we may even be moving near Dave. We just got to get up there and look at some stuff.
Starting point is 02:07:36 We've actually been looking to like move towards you. Thank you for coming on. Obviously everybody, for those that don't know, Dave is alien addict. He's on there. They post regularly. We love the alien addict guys. And we're going to be back with alien addict very soon. We just got to schedule it and get all that stuff going.
Starting point is 02:07:53 Yes, I want to be back with them. They're awesome guys. But Sherry's like, we got to take a break. And most people are like, well, No, we can do that much, you know, you don't even do that many episodes. We can take a break and still do episodes. Yeah. Need to be out of this house.
Starting point is 02:08:09 Yeah, absolutely. But Dave, thank you. Yeah. Thanks, David. Thanks, guys. I'll see you. See you, man. All right.
Starting point is 02:08:19 The guys, that was Dave. I do have some other stuff to talk about briefly. But so as one of the things I want to talk about was how Kamala Harris, I want everyone to understand this very fully. And I know most people, like your moms or someone that does not understand how the world works today. And I even told Sherry, while this speech was going on, I said, I almost guarantee you that because of what the media is going to do to this debate tomorrow and the next day, and then
Starting point is 02:08:55 the next day, you can call your mom, not everybody's mom. mom, but Sherry's mom, probably my mom, some other moms that, you know, the boomers, you can call them tomorrow the next day. Give them a couple of days to watch the media and then call them and say, hey, how do you think that the Trump and Kamala debate went? And at least for, in my opinion, my mom and probably Sherry's mom, they're going to be like, I think Kamala did great. Trump is such an ass.
Starting point is 02:09:26 Like, I can't even believe like how chauvinistic he is. and this and that. Can you, and did you hear what Kamala said about this and this and this? And the reason why they will watch the debate. They will more than likely also be thinking very similar things to what we may be thinking about and what we were thinking about. But it's a clip that they're going to hear.
Starting point is 02:09:50 It is. Yeah. But it's just the mainstream media that is going to indoctrinate is going to, it's going to almost brainwash them. to thinking and narrative. And the more they do that, and the more they hear it on mainstream media, their trusted sources,
Starting point is 02:10:08 the nightly news, the 6 o'clock news. My mom's always like, if I call mom at 5.559. I can't talk right now. Yeah. The news is coming on. 5.59 or 6 p.m.
Starting point is 02:10:19 My mom is like, Chad, Nightingle news is coming on. I'm about to call you back. And I always tell mom, mom, do not listen to the damn fake news. You should listen to me. No, Chad, I got to go.
Starting point is 02:10:31 Sorry, I'll talk to you in 30 minutes. So, Chad, what do you think about her opportunity economics that she's got on playing? I don't even know what that means. She's talking about, like, small businesses and, you know, this is where she's coming along. Like, she wants to help people in America, like, establish small businesses. Well, that's all a complete lie because let me tell you what the Biden and Harris administration did to small business. Number one, they destroyed small business. You know, the capital gains taxes and the unrealized gains, gains taxes that they are proposing under a Kamala Harris regime would actually destroy small business.
Starting point is 02:11:15 Not only that, you got to think back to what, although, yes, Trump did and, you know, the COVID-19 thing came out. A lot of the people that were kind of, hold on, hold on, Sherry. Sorry, sorry, sorry. But listen, a lot. a lot of what the a lot of what the trump administration did during the time of COVID-19 was a large part of the bureaucrats that were in his administration he did not know better in a lot of ways and they took charge and they said hey Trump this is what we need to do this is what we need to do and Trump was kind of backed in the corner during this time because for Trump they were like hey
Starting point is 02:11:51 Trump if you even think about going against us the experts the fauchies the doctors the Dr. Birx, all these people. And you go against us and there are, you know, one million lives lost or 50 lives lost. It doesn't matter. If there were 50 lives lost, they would have used it against Trump to say Trump because you disagree with us and you went against what our experts said, because you're not a doctor, you're not a scientist. It's all new. And they would have prosecuted him for that. He would be sitting in prison right now. if he would have went against anything that that the system the administration puts in front of him and in the likes of Dr. Falci and the likes of Dr. Burke and all these other people. And this was at first administration. And the thing was is that he was backed against the corner.
Starting point is 02:12:49 Yeah. And he is not a doctor. He doesn't know that stuff. So actually he's going to put this to the experts. and he relied on the experts that were best at the time. And, you know, I think he relied on the wrong experts. Yeah, well, of course he did. I mean. But guess who's in the news right now? Who? Cuomo.
Starting point is 02:13:10 Oh, yeah, Cuomo. Yeah. Cuomo was actually in a congressional. No, you're fine. Cuomo was in a congressional hearing today where he had to answer for. Yeah, the nursing homes. Yeah, the nursing homes, the nursing home deaths. And I want to point that out for a second.
Starting point is 02:13:26 as well. The Cuomo thing, Andrew Cuomo in New York, and I know we're getting a little bit off topic, but this all goes back to Democrats and what the Democrats did during COVID. What they made Cuomo do was Cuomo and Trump, the Trump administration, sent two Navy ships to the ports in New York. We're talking about ships that I believe could house over 1,300 patients apiece. He sent two there. And so both of those ships set outside of New York Harbor completely empty. 100% completely empty. And the reason why the Trump administration sent those ships to New York Harbor during the COVID-19 pandemic was because Trump said, listen, we got to have a way to where we can house either mostly people that have COVID-19,
Starting point is 02:14:18 especially the elderly and the more susceptible. we got to put these people on ships, quarantine them to where they're, we're not sending them back in nursing homes. We're not sending them back to their families that maybe they have an older husband or wife or whatever the case is. Put them on the ships.
Starting point is 02:14:35 We'll take care of them there until they're better and then we send them home. Or, so hold on. He was also saying that maybe we use the ships as like normal like emergency room stuff, broken arms. Vice versa. It doesn't matter. Either way, New York decided not.
Starting point is 02:14:51 not to do any of that shit. Andrew Cuomo said, nope, we're not going to use a single bed of your ships. And instead, we're going to take these elderly patients
Starting point is 02:15:00 to have COVID, and we're going to take them and send them back into the nursing homes with other elderly patients that are very, very susceptible to COVID-19. And then we're just going to destroy
Starting point is 02:15:13 and take out the entire nursing homes. And they did this with thousands of people. Thousands of people died and there's zero question to me that they did not know this and i just wonder hold on hold on i wonder for his friends with bill gates i'm just saying i have no idea but regardless chris quomo the entire nine chris quomo then went on to cnn defended his brother he went on and made this big storyline about oh yeah guys um you know i'm coming out in my basement although we knew that was a bunch of bullshit because chris quomo is a liar and so andrew quomo what did they do to andrew
Starting point is 02:15:49 Cuomo. Well, Andrew Cuomo during this time, they all of a sudden, when he was getting heat for sending elderly COVID patients back into nurse homes with people that did not have COVID and killed thousands of people, they came up with sexual allegations against him. Yeah, to get him out of there. And then I said, well, look, oh, sexual allegations, get him to hell out of there. And then everybody was like, well, he's done. And then and how they use sexual allegations, they use it to shut you up, to silence you. And also they use to distract from what you actually are guilty of. So do I believe that Andrew Cuomo is a pervert? He probably is. But the reality of it is that it's definitely not more important that what he did and was
Starting point is 02:16:35 complacent in and I guess a part of during COVID-19. Yeah, but it was just interesting that he was actually having to testify today like Are they going to try to go after him? No, no. Listen, listen, it's the same thing as they want to show and pretend accountability. It's the same thing with Fauci. Is Fauci ever going to be arrested? Absolutely not.
Starting point is 02:16:59 Is Andrew Cuomo ever going to be arrested? Absolutely not. And we've talked about this with COVID-19 and Fauci and all this shit forever. Falshi will never, ever be held accountable. The only way that you can ever hold Fouchy accountable in a system. like we are in now is that if you completely take out every single person in the system and replace them with people that are not pieces of shit like normal people like us if we replaced every one of the bureaucrats and the people in power with people like you listening right now then that's when faulty would be actually held accountable and by the way we would not hold we would not hold faulty accountable accountable um without evidence we we would we would put him in a court, we would present the evidence, and we would let a jury decide his guilt. The problem in the differences with the Democrats in the system is that there is no jury.
Starting point is 02:17:56 There is no judge because they are the judge and they are the jury. They are the God. They are the almighty power. And so when you look at someone like Kamala Harris that sits up here in this stupid ass debate where she acts like that she is, she is holier than now, she cares so much about Americans. She cares so much about the, well, Donald Trump, all you did was divide on race. Can you believe she said that shit? That Donald Trump divided on race? She's telling Donald Trump this and not herself and Joe Biden. All the Joe Biden and Kamala Harris campaign has ever been about,
Starting point is 02:18:35 and administration has been about dividing on race. Yes. If you aren't black or if you're black and you're not voting for me or whatever it is. What was he saying? Well, if you're not voting me, yeah, if you're not voting for me, you ain't black. Yeah, stuff like that. But we got to remember, you know, there are so many times, and I'll have to pull this up, guys, give me a second. But there are so many things that Joe Biden used to say even before he was ever president.
Starting point is 02:19:06 But you got to remember in like the 1960s and 70s, how racist he was. It was with the Jim Crow, whatever. thing it was i don't know if i'm saying it right yeah yeah or whatever oh shit hold on hold on hold on let's see in 1993 racist joe biden delivered a hateful speech calling black men predators on our streets so i i just want to point this out for just two seconds let me present i'm probably going to screw this up guys i guarantee you that's okay because you guys are here with us so you're here with us and for our audio listeners you're not going to be able to see it but it doesn't matter you don't want to see joe by in anyway you're going to be able to hear
Starting point is 02:19:42 He has a little bit more hair and is darker. So hopefully you guys hear this because who knows after tonight's production. This is Joe Biden back in 1993. Here you go. Take back to the streets. It doesn't matter whether or not
Starting point is 02:20:11 the person that is accosting your son or daughter or my son or daughter, my wife, your husband, my mother, your parents. It doesn't matter whether or not they were deprived as a youth. It doesn't matter. matter or not whether or not they had no background that enabled them to have to become a socialize into the fabric of society.
Starting point is 02:20:36 It doesn't matter whether or not they're the victims of society. The end result is they're about to knock my mother on the head with a lead pipe, shoot my sister, beat up my wife, take on my sons. So I don't want to ask what made them do this. They must be taken off the street. That's number one. There's a consensus on that. Unless we do something about that cadre of young people, tens of thousands of them,
Starting point is 02:21:08 born out of wedlock, without parents, without supervision, without any structure, without any conscience developing, because they literally, I yield myself three more minutes, because they literally have not been socialized. They literally have not had an opportunity.
Starting point is 02:21:29 We should focus on them now. If we don't, they will, or a portion of them will, become the predators 15 years from now. And Madam President, we have predators on our streets that society has, in fact, in part because of its neglect created. Again, it does not mean because we created them that we somehow forgive them or do not take them out of society to protect my family and yours from them. Yeah. Hold on. Hold on one second. I want to play this too, guys, just briefly.
Starting point is 02:22:04 Because I think this is all very important to get to. One second. Let's see here. Let's share this. Share. There we go. And Sherry is crunching popcorn. Sorry, guys.
Starting point is 02:22:19 I mean popcorn. All right. Here's some few minutes of Joe Biden being a racist. I tell me, if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, and you ain't black. Poor kids are just as bright and just as talent as white kids. When you got the first sort of mainstream African Americans who was articulate and bright and clean or mice-looking guy. Biden recalling his early Senate career bringing up two segregationists Senate. senators Herman Talmadge and James Eastland, who called African Americans an inferior race. I was in a caucus with James O. Eastland, Biden said. He never called me boy. He always called me
Starting point is 02:23:04 son. At least there was some civility. We got things done. The senators that he is speaking of with such adoration are individuals who made and built their reputation on segregation. The Ku Klux Klan celebrated the election of one of them. Using the word boy in the way he did can cause hurt and pain. And we need a presidential nominee and the leader of our party to be sensitive to that. My Democratic colleagues don't like me saying this. I think the two-party system is good for the South and good for the Negro, good for the black. Other than the fact that they still call me, boy, I don't think they've changed their mind.
Starting point is 02:23:39 I was also known to Robert C. Byrd was a parliamentary library, a keeper of the institution of the Senate, and he was the institution itself. For a lot of us, he was a friend. He was a mentor and he was a guy. He bragged about getting an award from George Wallace. Biden bragged about an award from the notorious segregationist governor George Wallace and told the Philadelphia Inquirer, I think the Democratic Party could stand a liberal George Wallace, someone who's not afraid to stand up and offend people. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.
Starting point is 02:24:17 Unlike the African American community with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community. with incredibly different attitudes about different things. You're going to put you all back in change. Biden was remarking to an audience in South Virginia that included hundreds of black voters. And Haiti just quietly sunk into the Caribbean or rose up 300 feet. It wouldn't matter a whole lot.
Starting point is 02:24:42 The reason I was able to stay sequestered in my home is because some black woman was able to stack the grocery shelf. One thing Biden is being slammed for is the crime. crime bill he helped write 25 years ago that many critics say resulted in mass incarceration, especially of young African-American men. Unless we do something about that cadre of young people, tens of thousands of them, born out of wedlock, without parents, without supervision, without any structure, without any conscience developing.
Starting point is 02:25:17 It did contribute to mass incarceration in our country. There's about 100,000 of them if you want to be a rhetority. historically extreme about it that are the who are the predators. They are beyond the tail, many of those people. We have no choice but to take them out of society. It's awful hard as well to get Latinx vaccinated as well. Why? They're worried that they'll be vaccinated and deported.
Starting point is 02:25:43 Because I was 29. I'm like the token black or the token woman. I was the token young person. Even call centers was rushed overseas in the hundreds of thousands. How many times you get the call? I'd like to talk to you about your credit card. Again, you have to start off with what they start off with. There's less than 1% of the population of Iowa that is African American.
Starting point is 02:26:08 There is probably less than 4% or 5% of that is our minorities. What is in Washington? I think it's a vast majority. Yeah. So look, it goes back. to what you start off with, what you're dealing with. If you were, you know, the emperor right now, you're running the show. What are the things that you would do?
Starting point is 02:26:32 Lee Kuan Yew, who most foreign policy experts around the world say is the most, the wisest man in the Orient. Hunter once refused a date because of his own Asian hate. And the 2019 exchange his cousin Carolyn offers to set him up with one of her friends, to which Hunter replied, no yellow. But there's one more band member that I want you to meet. Ladies and gentlemen, our vocals tonight, Michael Jackson. Michael, would you please stand?
Starting point is 02:27:02 First on Hunter Biden repeatedly called his white attorney the N-word. He's a grown man. He is the smartest man I know. Hunter Biden reportedly wrote to his attorney, quote, How much money do I owe you because N-word, you better not be charging me Hennessy rates. In another message, Biden began a time. text to his attorney with OMG, N-word. And Biden responded at one point with true that end word.
Starting point is 02:27:27 He lied to voters, according to the New York Times, quoting aides of Biden's, about having marched in the civil rights movement. And I got involved in the civil rights movement just as a kid. I came out of the civil rights movement. I was one of those guys that sat in and marched and all that stuff. And the New York Times reports, quote, more than once, advisors had gently reminded Mr. Biden of the problem with this formulation, he had not actually marched during the Civil Rights Movement, and more than once, Mr. Biden assured them that he understood and kept telling the story anyway. That is really, really weird. The Washington Post has given President Biden for Pinocchio's, liar, liar, liar, liar, is how I'd describe it, for claiming he was
Starting point is 02:28:08 arrested as a teenager while attending a civil rights protest in Delaware. They write, quote, The primary source for this story is Biden. We've learned over the years that he's not always a reliable source. One chapter receiving fresh scrutiny comes from his earliest years in the Senate when he strongly opposed mandatory school busing. It was designed to achieve integration and a more equitable education. What's less known is how he followed the lead of some of the Senate's most fervent segregationists. Working with segregationists on an anti-bussing agenda is very, very scary. In 1997, Biden worried that his children would grow up in a quote, racial, his words, jungle if integration is not done in a, quote, orderly way, whatever that means.
Starting point is 02:28:53 Black people. And one of the things we talk about this with Derek Gibson, the black patriots for Trump or the N words for Trump, actually, more specific. He has a pretty prominent headline of his, you know, kind of movement. But the reality is. headline. But the reality of it is is that he did the headline because he wanted to wake up black Americans to what's really going on. We deserve the country as much as anyone else. And I believe that. I believe black Americans in this country deserve America as much as white Americans, as much as anyone that is a indigenous or what you would say, a foundational American,
Starting point is 02:29:36 a foundational black, a foundational white. We can go on. definitely with the Indian American thing or the actual, you know, Indians. My family was that as well. And I'm not Elizabeth Warren when Elizabeth Warren had 1%. But my point to this is now it's like we have a massive influx of people from around the world that are not Americans. I mean, and I don't want to sound racist or bigot or whatever the hell they're going to call us when we say this. But the reality is, is we have millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of people in this country right now that do not give a damn about America. They do not care about any of our values.
Starting point is 02:30:27 And although, yes, the United States of America has its problems. We have issues. We fight with each other. We have homeless people. There are blacks that are killing each other on a daily basis in Chicago. In Chicago and in St. Louisville, Kentucky, and in Los Angeles. There are also whites killing each other on a regular basis. But I also think that presidents have tried to stop that stuff by asking the National Guard to come into certain cities and stop it.
Starting point is 02:30:59 But that has been blocked. Well, it's been blocked. I mean, very similarly to how Nancy Pelosi blocked National Guard during. January 6th because it would help the Trump campaign. It would help the Trump administration. That's why they did not want to do that. If it's helping one campaign, they don't want to do it. Yeah, and that's also why when Trump proposed sent a National Guard to Chicago to stop
Starting point is 02:31:21 the gang violence, the Biden, or I guess not the Biden administration, but the Democrats specifically came out and said, absolutely not. This is going to be. This is where Obama is from. No, it's not. I'm not bringing National Guard where Obama lives. No, but they were trying to tell people that this is, this is going to be military police. This is going to be, you know, complete.
Starting point is 02:31:45 Oh, my God. I literally just lost my train of thought. Sorry. This is not, not train of thought, but this is going to meet Marshall Law as what they were saying. And the reason they said that was because they did not want Trump to end something to help to them. And if we know anything about the civil rights movement and the civil rights movement and especially what the Democrats did. The Democrats are the ones that created the KKK without question.
Starting point is 02:32:08 The Democrats have always been the most racist. The Democrats have always been the ones that were the slave owners. And so they are still wanting to continue to be slave owners. And they are. That's why they make the black communities and the minority communities believe that the only way that you can survive in America is by voting for us to where we can keep you poor. That's what they want you to believe. Vote for us so we can keep you poor. Do not vote for someone that's actually going to do good for you.
Starting point is 02:32:36 Vote for us so that you can continue to get benefits and continue to get the government assistance to where we control you on every single form and fashion. Yeah. And we're going to give you a government government assistance. But listen, you're going to have like gunshots going outside your sidewalks and going through your house sometimes. But that's going to be, you know, something that you have to deal with. Well, the reality of this whole thing is, swear to God. Is that Kamala Harris and what she said and what she proposed tonight is all lies. They are all lies.
Starting point is 02:33:12 Everything the Democrats say is lies. Is Trump the, is, is he the best presidential candidate? I mean, at least in my lifetime, yes. And that's why I wish that he would have at the very least when they talked about the, the former Republicans that were endorsing Kamala Harris. I wish you would have said, hey, that's the system endorsing you. That's not Republicans or Democrats. That is the system. I think there's no more of a tell of that of when George W. Bush was almost, I guess he was
Starting point is 02:33:45 rumored to actually come out and potentially speak at the DNC convention. But he's also completely went against Trump. He has in some ways, in many ways, supported Kamala Harris. He is friends with the Clintons. I mean, very much friends with the Clintons. And then you can think back to Bill Clinton, I mean, not Bill Clinton, but George W. Bush, George W. Bush was president during 9-11. He was the one in his administration, along with other Republicans, that promised and swore to you
Starting point is 02:34:12 that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, which was all a complete and bullshit lie. And so the same way that George Bush lied to the people to go in and infiltrate an entire country, hang up Saddam Hussein from his throat on live video. Yeah. And he wasn't even doing anything with a country. Well, he, I mean, he's done bad shit before. I know, but he was not doing what we said that he was doing. Absolutely not.
Starting point is 02:34:38 But they wanted you to believe they got the mainstream media on board with it. And then everyone believed that Iraq is bad. Muslims are bad. And they used it because they wanted you to believe that, hey, this is what we have to do. How much money is George W. Bush worth now? Probably multi-money. I was one of those that believed it. I believe it.
Starting point is 02:35:00 We all did because we did not have, we did not have access to information. Tucker Carlson still says to this day that the biggest regret in his entire life was his covering and how he covered the weapons of mass destruction and see, especially with CNN because he was seeing in. And he said, I am regretful to this day of covering the weapons of mass destruction lie that the Bush administration put out. um and made everyone believe this is why we have to invade iraq the reason why we had to invade iraq number one was oil uh you know he wanted to finish a job of his of his dad uh his dad also used
Starting point is 02:35:41 to be the c i director um uh i think they're the bushes looking back are some probably some of the most corrupt and not just the bushes i mean you think about the the clinton's they're all friends they're all buddies they all love each other guys this is all a um a um i come uh a a cabal, it's all a system, it's all a system rigged against you. Do you realize how many people still think that the invasion of Iraq was, we should have done that because they don't know the truth because they're the people that listen to like local, whatever it is. What is it?
Starting point is 02:36:19 Well, it's just mainstream media. Yeah, mainstream media. They don't know the truth still to this day. And they say, yes, we should have invaded. We should have done that. Because a lot of people don't even know the truth about what happened. Well, it's like, lied. Our government lied to us.
Starting point is 02:36:36 Wow. And people don't know that. Well, and the thing is, I think most people know nowadays that government lies to us all the time. They lie. Not all people, though. Some people do not think. They still think our government is great. Well, the reality is, guys, I hate to say this, but like if you look around, I mean, there's not a, there's,
Starting point is 02:36:58 not a lot of countries to actually compare this to. Victor Arbonne with Hungary. Actually recently saw another country. Was it Poland maybe that was defending their border with AR-15s and they were shooting tear gas and all that shit from, I mean, and listen, these invaders, these immigrants were that were trying to invade. They were Muslim immigrants. And then we're not saying anything about Muslims in general.
Starting point is 02:37:23 Just that's a whole other discussion. But the reality of it is, is that when you have a group and a, large mass of people that are trying to invade your country and you just let them through, which is what the United States has been doing for since the Biden administration has come through. Yes, there were definitely border invasion or crossings at the very least under Trump, far, far less. The most border crossings in history has been under the Kamala Harris and Joe Biden administration.
Starting point is 02:37:52 There is zero question about that. Kamala Harris is the borders are. she was literally tasked with making sure that we secure our border and she did the exact opposite. And that's not on accident. She did it because it is an agenda. They want to register new voters. They were going to do that. They are already registered.
Starting point is 02:38:11 I went to a driver's license office when I had to get my license renewed. And I went into this driver's license office and it was packed out the door. And this was a very small town. I actually went to a small town because I was like, I'm not sitting in line in the town. Yeah, the near town that we were closest to. So I went to a smaller town and this line was out the door. And one of the things I noticed during my time there, which was a very long time was it was mostly, I guess you can say Spanish speaking, some Spanish speaking, some Arabic speaking people.
Starting point is 02:38:52 And they all had a yellow pieces of paper. they all had yellow pieces of paper could not speak a lick of English they would go up to the desk they would present this yellow piece of paper they would go around uh you know where you would usually go and i guess get your driver's license they would get their little pictures taken give the yellow piece of paper never spoke a lick of english at all whatsoever and they would get their little driver's license and they'd go off and this was hundreds of people and this was it like i don't even know what time it was it was like the least popular time to go was it a little driver's license or was it a little ID?
Starting point is 02:39:28 I don't know. It was probably a driver's license. It doesn't matter because in America, in most places, if you have an ID and you, if you have an ID, you can vote. Period. Right. And so when I saw this, I knew immediately I said there's a system already in place to where our voters are no longer American citizens.
Starting point is 02:39:49 And I already knew this. This yellow piece of paper from some type of federal government, or our federal government, but I don't know exactly what the federal system was that gave them this yellow piece of paper. This is what they had. And this is what they were getting their drivers or driver's license or IDs. And when I say driver's license in particular, we're talking about the Haitians that are in Ohio. There are videos now coming out on X. And I, and I let's see if I can find this video for you guys. But there are Haitians that are now driving and have no idea how. you're talking about that.
Starting point is 02:40:26 I want to talk about today. I saw a like list of all these like illegal immigrants in America. Anyone that has caused anything that's criminal or whatever, right? They, they did a whole list. And with, well, they first had like all the people they've raped and murdered and blah, blah, blah. So there was a bunch of people they've raped and murdered. But then on the outside of the list, they're like, these are people that have caused. uh deadly car crashes for example yeah DUIs um things that we don't normally think of like
Starting point is 02:41:04 people do whatever but I'm just saying there's so many of them it was crazy no absolutely I want to play this clip I think this is a clip maybe this is a clip but they're literally a lot in Haitians drive in Ohio at the very least and these people don't know how to drive yeah we saw so many today at the gas station that didn't know how to drive absolutely we did we were at the gas pump today. I was freaking out. We were at the gas pump today and we were sitting, I was pumping gas. It's a pumped over.
Starting point is 02:41:34 There was some person that pulled in. There was another person that pulled in in front of them trying to direct them. Yes. How to pull in and they're like trying to figure this shit out. And they had no idea. That's what we're literally dealing with. Yeah. Let's play this clip real quick.
Starting point is 02:41:50 Is it this one right here? So this is about Haitians and driving. check this shit out guys because they probably never even drove in their own country most times they don't know I met up with Anthony Harris the guy who went viral for giving this speech
Starting point is 02:42:17 at Springfield's Town Hall These Haitians are running into trash cans They're running into buildings They're flipping cars in the middle of the street They're in the park grabbing up ducks by their neck and cutting their head off and walking off with them
Starting point is 02:42:31 and eating them like And who's been going live on Facebook documenting the constant car crash from the new Haitian drivers. We headed to the BMW to see how the Haitians are getting driver's licenses and cars so quickly after moving here, despite speaking zero English. Question for y'all.
Starting point is 02:42:47 What are your thoughts on the Haitians? They can't drive? This guy right here by a Haitian dude. Yo, yo, bonjour. You got a cat right beside him. Stop! Dude, Stop!
Starting point is 02:43:03 Bro, stop, dude. You said that shit, not me! You take that back. You take that back. I knew shit. I'll take that back. Come, come over, man. We're like, we be playing, bro.
Starting point is 02:43:13 There's nothing wrong with some jokes. Let's go see what's up. How y'all doing? Question for you. Do you know how the Haitians are getting driver's license? Can they transfer their license from Haiti? No, they can't.
Starting point is 02:43:24 Do they have to undergo the same test? I'm not allowed to answer the person. Questions outside of the office. Wow. You know what they have to do? I do not. I really don't know. No, but I know they're getting them quick.
Starting point is 02:43:38 They're getting them quick. Right? I can ask. What's she said? That is my You are not allowed to take pictures if you're, sir, sir. In the, uh, oh, go on, sir? Are they able to transfer their licenses from Haiti to here?
Starting point is 02:43:50 No, not without taking the test, but as the only question I can answer, I can't answer anything else. Do you know how the Haitians are getting their driver's license so fast? Uh, do you know. Okay. All right, that's all I got for you. I'll listen, you. Are they driving pretty good out here or what? No.
Starting point is 02:44:06 No? How do you got it put their car in? Why is that, do you think? I don't know how to drive in general. Okay. Like, I see them driving over there, like trying to learn how to drive, but I don't know if they think they have to drive at all. Okay.
Starting point is 02:44:21 I mean, I don't even think they should have license. No lights when they're driving around and nothing. Do you think it poses a threat to public safety? Yeah, it does. Yeah. Managed there nothing but a headache. All they're doing is raising our rent and our taxes and wrecking vehicles, and there's just been nothing but a hassle since they've been here.
Starting point is 02:44:37 It's been horrible. How would you rank their drive? from one to ten? A negative 10, they're horrible. Do you have to take a driving test here? We? Do you? Ah, Spanish.
Starting point is 02:44:47 How is possible to receive your license very rapid? No, it's that for now, I know, what I need to ask for the information. Okay, okay, all right, thanks. Go, with more confusion gained than answers, explaining how these Haitians are passing their driver's tests, I headed down to the Springfield Welfare Center where Haitians are apparently clogging the lines for locals, exhausting the town's resources,
Starting point is 02:45:17 and overwhelming the employees. Question. Where are you guys from? Haiti? 80. Okay. How many Haitians do you think will come out here in line today? That's what we're trying to I'll say 80% of the people that come out here will be Haitian. Okay. How long have you been here in Springfield? I've been here for seven years now. What takes so long? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:45:39 It's because they've got only two lines that they serve people in in there, sometimes three. And on all three of those, they got interpreters for each one, right? When it'll go a lot faster if you had one line for people that, like, couldn't, you know, speak English that well. Yeah. And then have another line for people that can go through the line faster. Because a lot of times they'll have paperwork with them and stuff. They won't have it in order. We tried the split line for a while.
Starting point is 02:46:13 It ended up being less efficient for everybody. Is this about as long as it gets these days? This is a normal Monday. Yeah, we've had worse. Francois? English? No. Standing in line, 30 minutes, they might only deserve four or five people.
Starting point is 02:46:31 Got it. How many people you think will come here this Monday? This Monday? Yeah. I'm telling you, out of this money, I figure at least they might see five money. What do you think the split is between New Haitians that have come in here and Springfieldian OGs, if you will? I don't know too much about all observationally. What have you seen? Nine to one, easy. Like, I'm just here because I'm just trying to get them to clear medical car.
Starting point is 02:47:01 Are the systems stressed right now in Springfield? Can they handle the? the amount of people coming in? No, they really can't. I've been trying to get a medical, just a simple Medicaid car since June. They took me off of them. I'm a vet. They took me off of the disability and made me start paying for my own disability. And I don't know why they took me off.
Starting point is 02:47:20 So I had to give them proof of income and disabilities and stuff. I gave them all that. They still ain't dead. So you're a veteran and you're competing with some of the resources they're getting and just came in here? Yeah. Ever this America. You did, you're saying?
Starting point is 02:47:34 But I'm saying that the things that the hoops they make us jump through can have you turn on each other in a sense or say negative things. I don't have anything that's negative to say or bad to say about anybody Haitian. Do you think the town's taking care of their local residents that were here first and foremost? Oh no. Hell no. Thanks for your service. Appreciate it.
Starting point is 02:47:59 Good luck in line. Like, and the thing is, there's people on Twitter and Instagram that don't think it's real. Yeah, don't think none of this is... We just saw it in real time. They're like, none of that shit's real that you're saying. There's no way they brought 20,000 people. Uh, English? No, no English?
Starting point is 02:48:14 Okay. That's crazy. If you're a local trying to get your Medicaid, your welfare benefits, et cetera, you're waiting two hours now. Crazy? Crazy is fuck. We're six minutes away from this woman's house. This woman has stated that people are throwing mattresses on her joint.
Starting point is 02:48:29 She is not expecting us. I am just going to show up and knock on her door and see what happens. Hi there. I saw your speech at the city council and I was wondering if I could interview. Noel, I've seen a video of a guy getting a Canadian goose, a Haitian dude, and I have rumors of Haitians taking cats. Tell me what's going on here. I'm cat lady, has you been a lot of cats. You have a lot of cats. Yeah, I have a lot of cats.
Starting point is 02:48:54 The goose story, I believe, originated in Columbus. I have not seen it here. And just for context, you are surrounded this entire community. Mostly Haitians now? Yeah, I believe we're looking at probably about 50% is what I'm saying. but um i'm renewal driver's life i have to actually take test i literally had to take a re some kind of weird retest all these fools had a yellow bees able uh presented it paper paper presented it stood up took their license or sorry took their picture got a driver's license peace out drove off and yet we have to get uh tested we got to have these driver programs you're your kids if you have
Starting point is 02:49:35 kids you probably got driver programs um oh god they're saying we can't hear could you guys not hear what just happened oh my gosh someone said they can't hear but i i'm not sure about that and if they can i'm just going to talk about that they went to the driver's license and you know they can't drive yeah so who heard of the video just now because i do see that we say chad we can't hear um I don't know why, but some people can hear. Some people can either way. What's happening is illegal. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 02:50:14 Do you not think what's happening is people are coming illegally and we're giving them IDs and driver's licenses. Yeah, for sure. And the reality of the situation is, is that we have a country that is being overtaken by people from all over the world. this what you used to think is America is no longer America and unfortunately we have a problem that is not going to be fixed overnight it's not going to be fixed by any president um and for those that don't understand is that if not if but when they take away the money that they are given all these people coming across our border when they take away that money that's when civil war starts, everybody.
Starting point is 02:51:03 And I want to remind you guys, it's not just people coming across the border. Biden and Harris made a program where they're bringing people over, immigrants over, and giving them job permits, giving them three or $4,000 to get started. You know what I'm talking about, right? Oh, absolutely, yeah, for sure. They flew them here on planes, and there was so many, like, immigrants a year or whatever. I can't remember the number or the percentage or whatever. But great, many of those people are also getting in trouble with crimes in America.
Starting point is 02:51:41 Yeah, absolutely. They're robbing people. They're hurting people. They're raping people. It's the same people. Yeah, everybody's saying read our chat. The last three videos they could not hear, which is very interesting. I'm not sure, guys, why you guys could not hear that.
Starting point is 02:51:56 But in the audio, we will try to put that in. to the audio clip tomorrow have no idea i think it's the cross browsers which is very strange um it's interesting this this cross browser stream yard thing it screws us continuously but i think we're going to end it here because we've had a lot of issues tonight we're going at least at the very at the very least we're going to get out what we have in audio tomorrow you guys can hear this on audio tomorrow for those are listening on audio we have had kind of a shit show of a video production tonight but nonetheless guys let us know what your thoughts are on the debate what did you think about the debate who do you think won the debate and we will
Starting point is 02:52:41 obviously have a reaction to this in a couple of days once we see what mainstream media does to the debate and how they spin it it will it be trumped at one one or kamala harris that won on the debate but nonetheless that's it for us guys until next time we'd like Love you. Peace up.

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