Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Easter Podcast | Transgender Day Of Visibility

Episode Date: April 1, 2024

Today is Easter, a significant day in Christianity commemorating the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus Christ as described in biblical scripture. However, amidst this religious observance, there h...as been controversy surrounding the Biden administration's proclamation of Transgender Day of Visibility on Easter Sunday. While acknowledging this debate, it's essential to remember the true essence of Easter: the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Easter Podcast | Transgender Day Of Visibility

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Starting point is 00:00:32 and welcome to Investigator at Podcast. I'm your host, Chad, alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. On tonight's episode, we are going to be talking about Easter, the resurrection of Jesus Christ, and how the Biden administration this year decide to celebrate Easter by declaring a proclamation on transgender day of visibility. 2024. Just what happens, by the way, to be on Easter. Is this a slap in to face to all Christians around the world?
Starting point is 00:00:55 Well, many people would say yes. I think it is a direct message that this administration, this government does not care about Christians whatsoever. There have been many Christians around the world that feel like they have been constantly under attack, especially the past few years. Now, there maybe some of you out there don't believe that. I'm just telling you, it seems like at the very least, that is happening. And I think this is a prime example of how that is happening by them creating religions,
Starting point is 00:01:20 which is transgenderism, the flags, who people worship to and who they salute. They no longer salute American flags. They salute these flags. This is wokeism. In my opinion, this is a lot of evil. stuff in the making. This is what our government is as a part of. This is what they want our kids to believe. This is what they want all of you to believe. But you know what? Although Sherry and I have struggled with religion and spirituality and what we truly believe and how we believe it,
Starting point is 00:01:48 we had to do a podcast because we have to speak out. There are so many people speaking out on the other side. And the other side is not so good, guys. But what I will say before we even get into this, we don't hate or dislike transgender we don't um none of that right i mean we love all people and i think if you're a christian you believe in god and jesus god and jesus would not hate transgender they would not hate uh gay or lesbian they would not hate black or asian or anyone you got to love all people right but you also have to understand that when the administration like what they're doing today what they're doing is absolute warfare between christians and and their ability to worship and their ability to believe and they don't want you to do that.
Starting point is 00:02:30 And so I think it's time that we speak out. And yes, we are going to talk about the Easter story. So if you guys never heard it or you want to at least hear our side of it, I encourage you guys to stick around. But yeah, Sherry, when I showed you this, you didn't believe me. Oh, no. I was like this, I'm calling BS right now. This has got to be a fake profile or something.
Starting point is 00:02:52 But we did go onto the official website. And it was there. I was like, why in the world? Would our administration pick this day out of any day, out of 365 days? Why would they pick Easter Sunday to salute the visibility of transsexuals? Transgender. Well, transsexuals, transgender. I guess it's the same thing.
Starting point is 00:03:16 It's the same thing. And I don't even know really what this even means, the visibility of them. What does this actually even mean? Yeah, we don't know. But let me just read you the official whitehouse. dot go on march 29th, 204 briefing room proclamation. And this is what it says.
Starting point is 00:03:34 On transgender day of visibility, we honor the extraordinary courage and contributions of transgender Americans and reaffirm our nation's commitment to forming a more perfect union where all people are created equal and treated equally throughout their lives. I am proud that my administration has stood for justice from the start, working to ensure that the LGBTIQI plus community can live openly in safety with dignity and respect. I am proud to have appointed transgender leaders to my administration and to have ended the ban on transgender Americans serving openly in our military. I am proud to have signed historic executive orders that strengthens civil rights protections on housing, employment, health care, education, and justice systems and more.
Starting point is 00:04:19 I am also proud to have signed the respect for marriage act in the law ensuring that every American can marry the person they love. Transgender Americans are a part of the fabric of our nation. Whether serving their communities or in the military, raising families and running businesses, they help America thrive. They deserve and are entitled to the same rights and freedoms as every other American, including the most fundamental freedom to be their true selves. But extremists are proposing hundreds of hateful laws that target and terrified transgender kids and their families, silence and teachers, banning books, and even threatening parents and doctors and nurses with prison for helping parents get care for their children.
Starting point is 00:04:59 These bills attack our most basic American values. Their freedom to be yourself, the freedom to make your own health care decisions, and even the right to raise your own child. It's no surprise that the bullying and discrimination that transgender American spaces worsening in our nation's mental health crisis leading half of the transgendered youth to consider suicide in the past year. No. Anyways, at the same time, an epidemic of violence against transgender women and girls, especially, women and girls of color continue to take too many lives.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Let me be clear, all of these attacks are un-American and must end. First of all, I don't even know what the hell he's talking about here. I mean, he's acting like there is an attack on transgender. I don't see that at all, like ever. Now, listen, I have a thought and theory on transgenderism and all of that, which we're probably not. going to get into on this episode because that's not what this episode's about. We're going to make this episode about the real reason of Easter, which is Jesus Christ. But I do want to at least highlight what this Biden administration decided to do on Easter.
Starting point is 00:06:04 And I'm reading from the White House.gov. And as he says, all of these attacks are un-American and must end. At the same time, my administration is working to stop the bullying and harassment of transgender children and their families. the Department of Justice has taken action to push back against extreme and un-American state laws, targeting transgender youth and their families and the Department of Justice is partnering law enforcement and community groups to combat hate and violence. So he's literally putting the Department of Justice into parental lives or lives of kids.
Starting point is 00:06:38 And keeping in mind, you know, this generation that we are growing up in, look, I'm not saying that, you know, we've had people that are gay forever. or I mean, I mean, literally forever since history began. There has been gays and lesbians. And I guess you can call them gays and lesbians, but there's been gays and lesbians. And has there been transgender? I don't know. But the very least, right?
Starting point is 00:07:02 At the very least, we know that what this administration and this woke ideology has been doing to our kids, well, it's what they did to the kids that are now the parents of these kids. And this is what the result. becomes. You then have parents that are either transgender or they're basically signing up for this woke religion to where they feel like that if their kid is seven years old because they feel like their transgender or their whatever, they feel like now they're going to force their kid, which is seven, eight, nine, ten years old, which has no idea what the hell they are because no one does at that age. Even when you're 12 and 13 and 14, you're figuring shit out. And yet they're trying to force surgeries and, and, and, you know, gender reassignment surgeries and castration.
Starting point is 00:07:54 And they do it chemical castration now. I mean, all of this stuff, they're trying to force on kids, which are affecting the lives of these kids forever. And these kids don't know whether they are or are not something. I mean, these kids will dress up for Halloween and think that they are Superman for a night. They believe in a toothberry. Kids believe in Santa. kids believe in anything that you tell them to believe in until one day they realize,
Starting point is 00:08:19 oh, well, Santa's not real and neither's a tooth fairy. But what if what if they wake up one day and realize that, oh, shit, I am actually a girl, even though, you know, now I somehow have a penis or I was a boy, I think, but now I don't have a penis because that's cut off because my parents, when I was eight or nine years old, cut it off and they made all the decisions for me. That is child abuse. That is not transgenderism. That is child abuse.
Starting point is 00:08:43 And so what the Biden administration in this letter is saying is that we're going to use the Department of Justice to ensure that our ideologies and our agenda is pushed upon every single kid possible. We want teachers to be able to go into schools and teach your kids, whether or not you like it or not, that transgenderism, they may not be a male. They may not be a female. You don't want teachers teaching your kids this shit. Because the reality of it is, look at how much time your kids are actually in school. versus how much time most kids actually see their parents. It is, they, they see their teachers more in most cases than they actually even see their parents. And so the number one fight obviously should be to keep that stuff out of schools.
Starting point is 00:09:26 That's why you definitely have to ban books, especially considering this woke ideology stuff, where it talks about sex. It talks about masturbation and BJs and all this craziness. And a lot of these books are in elementary schools. Yeah. And they want them in the libraries. And I just don't get that. And I see this firsthand, guys, I have seen kindergartners, little boys that start dressing as girls. And I almost feel like it's because their parents are woke and they want to stand out and be cool.
Starting point is 00:09:55 And they, you know, maybe their kids said, oh, I want to be a little girl for a day or whatever. They make them dress like this for a whole year. And many, many times after, you know, we have to call the kid a girl and say she instead of he, the next year in school, they want to be a he. again because they didn't like that. You know, I've seen it firsthand on the playground where little boys are little girls. They're changed into little girls. But I still see them rough playing with boys, wanting to play football, wanting to play soccer, wanting to hang out with the boys. They're not hanging out with the girls.
Starting point is 00:10:32 And that tells me that this thing has a lot to do with woke parents and people that are presenting these things to seven-year-olds. seven-year-olds don't know. Yeah, I know. I get it. Yeah, we get it. No, no, I mean, they don't. I mean, that's what I'm saying. I mean, these are kids, right?
Starting point is 00:10:50 I mean, so you can't say that, oh, well, and by the way, I still go back to, like, if parents are trying to gender reassign their kids, that should be child abuse, period. Because these kids are going to have to live with this decision forever. Some parents are not even putting male or female on the birth certificate when their kids are born now. Yeah, it's nuts. He also says my administration has also provided. and dedicated emergency mental health support through our nationwide suicide and crisis lifeline
Starting point is 00:11:15 and any LGBTQI plus young person in need can call 988 and press 3 to speak with a counselor trained to support them. Basically, they want to also manipulate your kid probably in this hotline. I would love to call this as a kid. We are making public services
Starting point is 00:11:35 more accessible for transgender Americans, including with more inclusive passport, and easier access social security benefits. There is much more to do. I continue to call on the Congress to pass the Equality Act to codify civil rights protections for all LGBTQI plus Americans. And he says, today we send the message to all transgender Americans. You are loved, you are heard, you are understood, you belong, you are America.
Starting point is 00:12:00 And in the entire administration, and I have your back, they say. Now, all these things he says, you are American, you are, and if you're transgender, you are loved, you are heard, you are understood, you do belong, and you are American. All those things are true, by the way. And no one should hate someone based on whatever the hell they're going through or whatever they think they are, whatever the case is. But there does become problems and especially considering the White House yet has made any recognition to Jesus or Christians during Easter at all whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:12:33 They have done nothing. They have not talked about it. They have not said it publicly. They have only declared transgender awareness. day as now the day on Easter. This is almost like if the administration wanted to incite violence, that would be like how you do it. Like let's figure out how to be the most disrespectful we possibly can to an entire religion.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Whereas if you watch mainstream media or the Biden administration, they say, oh, we got to make sure that there's not anti-Semitic hate and there's not xenophobia and there's not Muslim hate and all this stuff. But if you're a Christian, we don't care. We're actually going to change your holiday out with Transgender Awareness Day. And this holiday is based on Easter, the resurrection of Jesus. And they're even talking about the White House Easter egg hunt, the annual Easter egg hunt. They don't even want any kind of religious affiliation with these eggs. No, zero. Yeah. And I get, you know, the Easter bunny really has nothing to do with the resurrection of Jesus. But it's still a time for people to be able to tell children, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:43 why we're actually celebrating this day. It's not about Jesus turning into a woman. It's about Jesus resurrecting from the dead. And I don't even know if I'm a Christian, but it still aggravates me that at a 365 days, they pick Easter Sunday to make visibility of transgender gender people. Like, why this day out of all? And, you know, I also want to put it out there that, you know, anyone that's a Christian, you're supposed to love your brothers and sisters. You're supposed to love everyone. No matter of if you think they're doing right or wrong or if they're evil or good, you're still supposed to love them. And by Biden putting this out on Easter Sunday, it's almost like, oh gosh, if you even say anything, if you're angry about this, you're not a true
Starting point is 00:14:31 Christian. Yeah. You're not a real Christian. Well, he wants to create divide here is what he wants to do. I mean, that's, that's exactly what he wants to do. That's what they've always done. That's how, that's literally how they created, I believe, 100% the narrative around BLM, Black Lives Matter and Tiva, all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:47 They always want to create divide. You cannot rule a nation without division. And you can, especially if you want to, uh, you know, if you want to dictate or be tyrannical or you want to be a communist type state, the only way you can possibly do by dividing. You cannot do that if the public or the people are together. And if there's any large or any person on a very big platform that tries to start bringing people together, starts actually waking up a lot of people to what's really going on around the world, they will persecute you. They will find a reason to either have you in jail or get you killed or
Starting point is 00:15:25 whatever the case is. Look at M. Okay. Look at JFK. And I'm look at maybe, I don't even want to bring up Andrew Tate's name, but Andrew Tate. has a different kind of thing there, but there's a lot of them, Jordan Peterson, you name it. Now, guys, I want to play. I wanted to celebrate. Okay, sorry, I just want to make sure that was going to come on. I want to play this clip. This is Patrick Bet, David, and he says this is a spit in the face to all Christians in America,
Starting point is 00:15:49 God above all politics. And I want to let you hear what he has to say about this. Here you go. This is why, as I last year, I stopped praying for tolerance because of the things that taken place by Christians. Being way too tolerant the behavior that's been in place from the White House. Leadership at the top announcing that on Easter Sunday,
Starting point is 00:16:08 tomorrow, for many of you that will be going to church to celebrate. You know what you're celebrating. Resurrection. The White House chose to celebrate. Transgenders. The 0.1% of America. Transgenders, who in many cases are going through
Starting point is 00:16:23 challenges both mentally and emotionally, but we're wanting to celebrate the 0.1%. Not the Christian nation, not the Christian leaders. who have done incredible things for this country and the level of disgrace that this brings to us as a country to the rest of the world that our president wrote this and announced this yesterday for Sunday
Starting point is 00:16:43 is a spit in a face to many Christians around the nation and you shouldn't be okay with this and you ought to stand up for yourself and realize that this is not acceptable. It's time for Christians to stop being so tolerant with this type of behavior. By the way, this isn't a left-right center thing. This is if you're a Christian
Starting point is 00:17:00 in your life, God, comes before your political party, you ought to stand up. If your political party comes before your faith, don't do anything about it. You decide what you value more. How you vote or how you pray. If we get those orders right, the future looks bright. But if we stop fearing God and no longer wanting the favor of God, future doesn't look as bright as we think it does.
Starting point is 00:17:27 So there's Patrick Bet David, obviously at a horse race, it sounds like. But the word that stands out to me in his little speech or spill was tolerant. Christians are very tolerant of everything. And people need to quit being tolerant. And, you know, even I have seen some churches even be so tolerant that they allow anything to happen in the church because, you know, like I said, you're supposed to love your brother and your sister. And, you know, we're not ones to judge. Yeah, you should. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. I didn't mean to cut you off. You should never turn away people in a church, but you should never also not preach the word if you were a true Christian. Is that kind of what you were saying? Yeah, I was just saying that, yeah, I guess that's what I'm saying, yes. Yeah, because but also what you're saying is, and I think to your point, and I'm sorry, I interrupt you, I think what you're also saying is there are a lot of churches that are just
Starting point is 00:18:22 letting in everything. They're changing the Bible. They're not even preaching from the Bible. They're telling you that if you're this or this, if you do this or whatever, you're all getting into heaven. No matter what. It doesn't matter what you do. It doesn't matter. Now, because I want to just, I'm going to put this out there because I know for a fact that Christians do not believe in even homosexuality. They believe that a man and a wife, you know, a man and a woman are supposed to be together. And that's how we produce offspring. And that's what keeps us, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:51 generating new people. Well, P. Diddy would disagree with you on this. Anyways. So, you know, there's a lot of churches that, you know, they're acceptable accepting of these things, which is fine because we have to accept everyone. And I think churches accept people in the hopes that they can show the word and maybe people change to to see who Jesus is, you know, in the light of Jesus, I guess, is what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, I get what you're saying. I mean, and that's one of my things always, like as far as the gay, lesbian, whatever, you know, I think 100% I think. You know, there are people that are born gay. There's no way there are ever going to be anything other than gay.
Starting point is 00:19:35 That would be like telling me that I need to go have sex with a guy or whatever the cases. I would never want to do that ever. In a million, I would never do that. No matter what, I would rather take a bullet than to do that, right? And that's the way a lot of gay people feel as well. And so, you know, whether the Bible and Christianity thinks that's a sin, well, guess what? the Bible says specifically that everyone sins. And that is literally the reason for Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:20:02 And I just want to make that very clear. Oh, yeah. If you don't have Jesus in the equation in the world we live in, then yes, you are screwed and so are a lot of people that sin because there is no holy person. There is no Godlike person. You can try to be Godlike. You can strive to be Godlike. But that doesn't mean that you are God.
Starting point is 00:20:23 That does also mean that you're perfect because there is no one that is perfect. Zero people. I have seen people that go to church every Sunday and they are the worst people I've ever met in my life. Oh, absolutely, yes. And I also want to question this. You know, it's the same thing with, you know, since we are talking about transgender, we've kind of touched on gay and lesbian, which I, to myself, I'm more tolerant and I think they're in different, a different grouping than transgender. in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Because transgender is based on your appearance, where homosexuality is based on, you know, who you want to love. It's a whole different thing. And this wokenism or whatever, I'm sorry, wokenism is more based on the people that want to appear different. Ideology. Yeah. And it's almost like a religion. Yeah. I mean, and like I said, there's gay people that absolutely 100% cannot help who they want to love.
Starting point is 00:21:22 And, but I think transgenderism also called gender dysphoria. There's many psychologists that believe it is a mental condition where you feel like you're not what you are, but you are actually a female. Regardless of whether you think you're a male or not, you are an actual female scientifically. So without going too much in that, New York governor, Kathy Hatchell has ordered that New York landmarks be lit up in transgender flag colors on Easter Sunday. Hatchell issued a proclamation declaring March 31st transgender day of visibility as well. The landmarks that will be lit up include Niagara Falls, One World Trade Center, Empire State Plaza, the Cazzo Bridge. I'm probably saying that right, wrong. The state education building and many more.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Governor Kathy Hachell today issued a proclamation declaring March 31st, 2024 Transgender Day, celebrating the trans community in New York State and across the country. The governor also announced that New York State landmarks will be lit in pink, white, and light blue tomorrow, March 31st in celebration of transgender day of visibility. Now, Ben Carson has also weighed in. Dr. Ben Carson said, I thought this was fake news, but we checked it out. And in fact, it came from the White House. And it is true. Can you believe that we are distracting from the celebration of a resurrection of Christ on Easter this year by declaring transgender visibility day on that same day?
Starting point is 00:22:48 He definitely misspelled that. And then, you know, the White House literally banned Jesus from the Easter celebration this year. Now they have declared Easter Sunday Transgender Day. This is a direct attack on Christianity. Benny Johnson said, no Christian should ever vote Democrat ever again. The fight is not left versus right. It is good versus evil. People need to wake up.
Starting point is 00:23:07 And this is what he is saying. Now, let's get on to the actual important stuff. And before we do that, by the way, do you want to let you guys know once again, we are on video now. And I promise the next stream is actually going to be on Rumble. Actually going to be on our channel. We accidentally streamed it to our profile and Rumble, but it will be on a channel next time. And we have a new show coming up very soon. And Sherry keeps hitting her glass with a pin.
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Starting point is 00:25:00 Yeah. And I'm just, I want to put it out there. This subject is so hard to talk about. Yeah. Because you don't want to offend anyone. You know, I love all people regardless of what you are. Absolutely. The thing that really ticks me off is when things are being pushed on children.
Starting point is 00:25:15 That's what pisses me off. And I shouldn't even say that word, but that is what's happening in the schools today. Yeah. You know, they're going around even parents and trying to get these kids to say, oh, yeah, I'm a different gender now. I want to be a different gender because they think that's cool. And this is the way I was supposed to be. It's all almost like a fad. Yeah, yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:25:40 It is. I mean, and, you know, how long will it be? How long will it? It's the progressive nature, right, guys? but listen we're going to start talking about Easter right and I want to preface this again guys we are not preaching to you I want you to hear us out I want you to hear this out by the way I'm going to be hearing this out also while we want we say this and so this is just the Easter story and we're going to go through it I think it'll be interesting we'll talk about it or break it down
Starting point is 00:26:07 and guys we are in a battle with good versus evil and let me tell you something I don't dream a lot right most of the time I dream it's usually like if I wake up in the morning and I say like eat breakfast or something and then for some reason I lay back down and I will go to sleep for like an hour I usually dream then for some reason I don't know what it is about like waking up and then going back to sleep you're not like it in deep sleep yeah remember your dream yeah you remember it but like the past two or three nights I've had dreams about Jesus and it's very strange I don't know why Jesus has come to me in dreams I don't know if he's come to me in dreams I just dream about Jesus.
Starting point is 00:26:44 And usually he's just sitting around with us. He's in a white like robe thing. He's sitting around with us hanging out with us. I think he was at the house, one of the dreams. We were somewhere else with him. I don't exactly remember the dreams. I remember waking up. I was like, why don't I keep dreaming about Jesus?
Starting point is 00:27:00 But it is about Easter. Maybe, I don't know. I've thought about like maybe Jesus is trying to tell me like you got to talk about me. You know, and I don't know. And I think it's very important that we put aside our podcast to talk about Easter for one night, especially because of the
Starting point is 00:27:18 president in the White House, what they're doing, they're trying to get rid of is Easter. They're trying to get rid of any kind of religion that anyone has. And I, you know, that's the whole reason why people move to America was to be able to worship their own God.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Yeah, or whatever they do. Yeah. The freedom to worship God and it's being taken away once again. Yeah. Even though they're trying to act like, you know, this new day is the new religion. And we got to just forget the Easter religion. Anyways, all right, here we go, guys. Let's get into what Easter's about.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Let's get into the storyline here. All right, guys. So here's the thing. I wanted to read a bunch of stuff, right, about the story of Jesus. I wanted to read Mark, right? The chapter of Mark, which really goes through a lot of Jesus' trials and tribulations, who Jesus is. And especially in the book that we have actually a lot of times.
Starting point is 00:28:12 times we have referenced the book, the complete guide to the Bible on many of our episodes, on our biblical episodes and so on. And although we could do that to really tell the story of Jesus from the beginning until the crucifixion and to his resurrection, I think it's just better. We're going to talk about it, right? We've read enough. We understand enough about who Jesus was. And listen, this is something that Sherry and I struggle with often.
Starting point is 00:28:36 And for those that have listened to us for any amount of time, you will know why we struggle with that in certain ways. You know, as we said, Sherry comes from a Jewish household. I come from a Christian household. But the older you get, and especially with everything that's going on in the world, all the things were being told, all the things were seeing happening. You know, you question things. I remember there was a time in my 20s where, you know, I grew up believing in what I,
Starting point is 00:29:06 in my opinion, when I went to church at a Southern Baptist church, I felt. like often I was feared into believing in God or I was feared into believing in Jesus. And and there was something that always heard in the sermons, which was a very fiery sermon often. And it was always usually ending by saying that if you don't do this or you don't believe this, you're going to hell. And so as I got older and yes, that feared me in about 11, 12 years old to to where I was like, I'm going to go get baptized. I'm going to go get saved. I got to do whatever it takes to make sure I am not burning eternally in hell. And the same thing happened to me because, like you said, I grew up in a Jewish household.
Starting point is 00:29:50 But many times I would sneak to church with my friends and go to these sermons. And exactly what you were saying is I was feared into believing in Jesus. And if I didn't believe in Jesus, I was going to hell. And I remember going to the front saying, you know, I want to accept Jesus in my heart, did not tell my family. Somehow my dad found out and he was so mad that had been going to church because of that exact reason. He didn't want me to feel that fear that they put in you about heaven and hell, which, you know, I don't know if my dad was right or wrong. He was a Jew, but he didn't really believe in heaven and earth.
Starting point is 00:30:29 And he didn't want me, I guess, subject to that. And that's why he was so, he was really mad when I would sneak off to church. Well, I mean, especially there is obviously right now in this world today. There is a huge divide between Jews and Christians. And we saw it with Candace Owens and the Ben Shapiro break. We are somewhat seen it as far as the war in Israel right now or the war in Gaza slash Palestine. There's a big conflict. There are people on the side of the Jewish religion that are saying that if you say Christ is king, that is anti-Semitic, which I think is absolutely absurd.
Starting point is 00:31:05 but let's just break down at least just what I at least know about the Jesus story, right? And this is just Sherry and I talking about it. And I think on both sides, I think we should talk about that from the way you grew up learning and the way I grew up learning. Let's get into the story of Jesus. Yeah. You know, his crucifixion. Oh, sorry. Crucifixion.
Starting point is 00:31:27 And his resurrection. Yeah. And so here's the thing. We're obviously not going to go back in Jesus's teenage years. And when he was born and all that stuff, that's a whole number. other story. But let's just get to the point where, you know, he gets these 12 disciples of everyday average people. And they're not just average. A lot of these people are thieves or they're or they're less than holy, I guess you would call them. They're not, you know, snooty people.
Starting point is 00:31:52 They don't believe that they are self-righteous. Many of these men that he got to come along with him. He said, look, I know you guys are fishers. The first men he talked to, he said, I know you guys are fishers or fishermen he said but let me teach you how to fish for men and without hesitation these guys were like you know what yeah well i'm down to do this and for whatever reason they knew something about the way jesus talked to them um that they needed to go with him and then he went along the shore down just a little ways a mile or two he talks to other men and he says hey come with me we are going to be fishers of men now this can admit anything back in the day from slave trading do you name it and but they still did it because they believe
Starting point is 00:32:32 believed in it for some reason. This was during the time, by the way, John the Baptist was baptized in people in the water. Right. Right. Which, by the way, Jesus himself went and got baptized. He actually went and got baptized himself, which meant that although Jesus, although not a lot of people fully knew who Jesus was at this time, but he himself went and got baptized by John the Baptist. Because he even felt like, hey, I'm going to lead by example. I'm going to show that I am going to get baptized.
Starting point is 00:32:58 I'm not, I'm not greater than you necessarily. and so yeah he gets these 12 disciples of not just average men but a lot of these people were not good men and so he starts to run around town and he wanted to be fissures of men because he wanted to change people he wanted to he wanted to go and change people's lives he wanted to tell the story of God he wanted to tell the story of who he was but also primarily who God was he wanted people to understand this and and so as the Roman Empire and especially the Jews in the area, started seeing him run around with 12 people,
Starting point is 00:33:36 which were his disciples. But at the time, the Jews looked at these people as lesser than them or lesser than ordinary people. They didn't necessarily see Jesus in a good light either. Do you not think, Sharon? Oh, absolutely. But I think these men saw something in Jesus
Starting point is 00:33:52 that they have not seen in anyone else. Because normally, if you are someone that people call you scum or like worthless or, not worth anything. And somebody comes to you and says, hey, I want you to be a fissure of man, even though you are scum and nobody else treats you like with dignity or if you're worth being a human being. But I am here to treat you like that. And not only am I going to treat you like that, but I want you to be a fissure with me. And I'm going to teach you how to do that. So I think they saw the Lamb of God through Jesus because of his sincerity and his beliefs in
Starting point is 00:34:32 really he was going after sinners to help sinners. Yeah. He wanted these sinners. He wanted the tax collectors, which were Jews. And what they did at the time was the Jewish tax collectors would collect taxes from Jews. They would up their price, keep the money, and then get the rest of the Romans. So nobody liked the tax collectors at all. And we've all seen movies of this where, you know, they're really like scum of scum.
Starting point is 00:34:58 And a lot of these people sold out. They sold out to the Roman Empire. Yeah, they did. And so Jesus picked it very carefully, even though you don't think he did. He didn't just go out. You know, he really did go out and he found sinners. Yeah. Because the only true way to believe in God's way is you've got to have sinners preaching about sin.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Yeah. That's the only way you're going to have followers. Yeah. And to Jesus's point in the Bible, though, and how he talks about this and to your point is, obviously everyone is sinners. But what Jesus said was, you know, I don't want some snooty scholars that think they know everything and think they are self-righteous and think that there's no way that I would ever be able to talk to them. And Jesus knew there's no way I'd be able to talk to these people and say that I am anything because they will never believe me. So that's why I pick the sinners. That's why I pick the people that know they are sinners that I can maybe change.
Starting point is 00:35:50 And they're going to know a sinner recognizes a sinner. Exactly. But I think in the same aspect, the snooty people are looking down on these disciples. because they are scum. They are lower, you know, lower class. They don't mean anything to these people. You know, these people would not even have dealings with the people, the disciples he picked. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:11 So I'm just thinking if I was alive during that time and Jesus was picking all these disciples and I was like a normal person there, would I even believe Jesus because of the people he picked? Yeah. Because normally, you know, people are following back then, king. and prophets and, you know, pharaohs or anything that is, you know, higher class. Higher class. Gold, crowns, kingdoms. Self-righteous.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Right. That's what people followed then. They didn't follow somebody that was in a dirty robe with sandals. And by the way, they also did, they still do this to this day, which is the problem with the religion. It's also the problem with church. You know, there are so many judgmental churches today that many people that are actual centers that really need church won't go to church.
Starting point is 00:37:01 And those are the exact people that they need in church. Because you know who is, and I'm not saying everyone, by the way, guys. I'm just saying there are a lot of people in church pews that are there to be a part of a club. And they are part of a club because they think they are high and mighty. They are self-righteous. They know everything. And I'm telling you, I've met so many of these people.
Starting point is 00:37:22 And when you're around these people, I would rather be around gangbangers and the streets of freaking Chicago. And I had done that when I moved to South Carolina. You know, this is a huge Baptist belt. That's what they call it, the Baptist belt here in South Carolina. I started going to church because that was the thing to do. That's what all my friends were doing. And, you know, I was just being a follower.
Starting point is 00:37:41 And I followed and went to this major Baptist church. But after I was there for a while, it was not about going to listen to the pastor. It was going to see who had nicer clothes or a better haircut or more money or, You know, it was all about... Who was going to dinner that night or to the bar or who was going to be included in this little group trip. My friends even made me go to the grocery store and buy wine because they were so afraid to buy wine at the grocery store because they were Baptists. I had to go buy the wine for them. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:38:15 That's nuts. But yeah, so our point here is Jesus chose the sinners. And I think that is a very, very key point that is lost among religion and church today is that if Jesus was in the church today is that if Jesus was in the church today, day he would frown and he would be disgusted by so many people that are in the pews and you know he wouldn't be in church today he'd be out there in the places that you would probably never go right but he would be there teaching these people and telling them telling them hey follow me and let's go find some people and we're going to change people and we're not and by the way by changing other people is going to change you oh it definitely does and i think that's the whole giving nature right it's like
Starting point is 00:38:51 there's there's so many people that when they give they feel actually like they're they're receiving. It's like you're receiving. And that's so me. When I give a gift or if I give something, it gives me more joy to give than to receive. It just makes me so happy. And Chad sometimes gets me out of me. But I just like giving to people.
Starting point is 00:39:12 It just makes me feel good as a person. Sherry's definitely that way. I mean, she, even though I don't like sometimes how she does, especially when she interacts with homeless people or whatever. And she's by herself. And I don't hear from her. She don't have her phone, whatever the case is. and she's gone an hour giving all these people food and buying all kinds of stuff in the grocery store.
Starting point is 00:39:30 And then she's like, yeah, they were going to take me to their home. I'm like, Sherry, no, you cannot or not home, but their place they stay. Well, their tent. And I'm like, you got to still be very careful. Yes. But anyway. It just, it makes, there's something in my heart that when I give it makes me feel really good. And I think that's generally how most people feel.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Yeah. Well, yeah, most people would feel that way if they did it, right? I mean, but most people don't. And that's fine. And that's just something that we're making an example that Jesus picked what most people would consider unrighteous or unholy. Right. So getting to the Jew thing, right? So the Jewish religion and the Jewish people, for nearly 600 years, Jews had been waiting for God to make good on his promise, which was they had been looking for a Messiah.
Starting point is 00:40:15 And that's how long it had been since a Jewish king ruled Israel, a legit king from David's family, not a Rome appointed king like Herod the Great. but God promised David your kingdom will continue before me for all of time and your throne will be secure forever. Forever ended the summer of 586 BC. Babylonian invaders from what is now Iraq destroyed Jerusalem and dismantled David's dynasty of kings. But prophets insisted that God would send an anointed one, Messiah in Hebrew or Christ and Greek. And that's the term used throughout the Old Testament to describe some of God's special leaders, including selected kings, priests, and prophets. Now, the future Messiah would be the most special of all. Prophets painted pictures of a victorious warrior king who would restore the peace and glory of Israel,
Starting point is 00:41:03 but they also painted pictures of a suffering servant who would die to save others. Now, most Jews latched onto the warrior theme and ran with him. And so by the time Jesus began his ministry, the Jews had endured a century of oppression of Roman occupation. Messiah expectations were soaring. And the miracle work in Jesus looked like the right man at the time, but he didn't even try to free Israel. He declared at his trial, my kingdom is not of this world, John 1836. What a disappointment to his followers, which then preconceived notions of the Messiah. But the resurrection turned that frown upside down, and suddenly it dawned on his disciples,
Starting point is 00:41:41 what God meant when he promised that David's throne would be secure forever. They started spreading the good news, gospel of Old English. The Messiah from David's family had come as a. suffering servant. And one day he's coming back as a victorious king who will rule a glorious and timeless kingdom. So Jewish people, they, most of them latched on to the theory of this was going to be a warrior. This is who we believe will be our Messiah will be a warrior, an ironclad clothing or
Starting point is 00:42:11 armor. And he's going to maybe carry a sword. And he's going to fight for Jerusalem to come back. And although that is not necessarily what they got, Jesus. was a, I mean, he died. He died for all people. And Jewish people did not believe this was who they really, who really was the Messiah. Yeah, because they thought that it was going to be somebody that was, you know, like a pharaoh, somebody that stands out that is powerful. But Jesus' power was way different than a powerful prophet or a powerful Pharaoh or a king. His power was, like he said,
Starting point is 00:42:49 not from this earth. And thinking about that time, if I were that person or those people seeing Jesus, I might not see it either because he was pretty much a poor man in a dirty robe doing things that were, you know, he was making miracles, but people were not expecting him, I think. And when he did come back and he did start making miracles, people started taking notice of that, but when he started doing that on Sabbath days,
Starting point is 00:43:23 I think that's when Jewish people really turned on him. Yeah. So Jesus breaking Sabbath rules. Why are they breaking the law by harvesting grain on the Sabbath? So this is when the disconnect between Jesus and Jews began. And that's the question Jewish scholars have for Jesus. They saw Jesus and his disciples walking through a grain field with the disciples plucking grain snacks as they walked.
Starting point is 00:43:44 The disciples would snap off the kernel loaded grainhead. heads at the top of the tall stalks. They then rub the grain heads in their hands to break off the chaff and release the tiny grain kernels, which they had to pop then into their mouths. Jesus critics and scholars from a rule-minded group in the Jewish religion, Pharisees. As far as the Pharisees are concerned, Jesus' disciples are breaking the Sabbath by harvesting. These Pharisees get even more upset when on perhaps the very same Sabbath, Jesus heals a man with a deformed hand. They teach it is a sin to treat the sick on the Sabbath unless the patient is in danger of dying.
Starting point is 00:44:21 A deformed hand does not qualify. Now, the Bible doesn't forbid picking snacks or grain or healing people on the Sabbath day of rest, but commandment number four and 10 does say remember to observe the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. You have six days each week for your ordinary work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath day of rest dedicated to the Lord, your God, and on that day, no one in your household may do work. Exodus 28 through 10. Now, the Pharisees had taken it upon themselves to apply this law to everyday life. So Jews would know exactly what they could and could not do on the Sabbath.
Starting point is 00:44:53 But one famous rabbi at the time, Shammai, and I'm probably saying that wrong, not only opposed helping sick people unless their lives were at risk, he opposed visiting them or even praying for them. He argued that the Sabbath was a day for joy. Jesus might have told him to tell it to the hand a moment before Jesus healed it. I love that. Now, what he does say to Shama's kindred. spirits is that the Sabbath was made to meet the needs of people and not people to meet the requirements of the Sabbath. That is Mark 2.27. And it says, does the law permit good deeds on the Sabbath or is it the day for doing evil? Mark 3.4 says Jesus' words make common sense to thoughtful
Starting point is 00:45:32 people, which is one reason why crowds start following him. But most Jewish leaders are so saturated with their traditions that they have learned that they cannot process this fresh insight. Even if it's more kosher than the tradition. So Jesus tries to pound intellectual sense into them. He reminds them that David and his men are sacred temple bread reserved for priest. He reminds them that David and his men ate sacred bread reserved for priest. And he reminds them that a holy day is for doing holy things, like helping people in need. But all the Pharisees seem capable of processing is the punishment for desecrating the Sabbath. And they say, anyone who desecrates it must be put to death. That is Exodus 31.14. So they plot to kill him.
Starting point is 00:46:19 And this is the big turn on Jesus. Because he was helping people on Sabbath, which Sabbath, I don't know if I said that, is Saturday for Jewish people and Sunday for Christian people. And everyone has a Sabbath that has a religion. I'm pretty sure. I think Muslims are like that, too. And you are supposed to rest. And you are supposed to only think about God on those days. and even picking grain or helping somebody heal is work. And you're not supposed to do this on Sabbath. This is a tradition. And if this tradition was broke in those days and, you know, these people, like I said before,
Starting point is 00:46:57 are huge rule followers. And if you break tradition and rules, then there are consequences you're going to face. And it was a much harder time than it is then, it than it is now. Like, we break rules now. Half the time, we don't even go to. jail or prison or anything when we're supposed to. There is no accountability, I guess, compared to back then. Yeah, but keep in mind, you know, this is a time when Jesus was, like we said, he was going
Starting point is 00:47:25 around, he was doing things, he was healing people. There were multiple miracles that Jesus was performing. And the fact that you had put someone to death over a Sabbath thing that was broken is kind of crazy, but also keeping in mind that the Jewish people for 600 years were looking for a Messiah. Right. And I don't think they thought he was. was. No, of course they didn't. They didn't at all think that. And so most people will say that the Jewish
Starting point is 00:47:48 people missed the Messiah. They did not realize that Jesus was the Messiah. Now, we can go back how many every years and say that if they missed Jesus as the Messiah, which, by the way, there is a large group of Jewish people, which are, I believe, called the New and Reform Jews, which believe 100% to this day that Jesus was the Messiah. And so traditionally, I guess you could really call them Christians, because if they believe Jesus was the Messiah, the Son of God, or whatever, then they are pretty much Christians, but they are still Jewish people, right? So we're talking about actual Jewish people that have a bloodline or a heritage from the Jewish religion and from Israel.
Starting point is 00:48:24 And so there is a large group of those people that believe that Jesus is the Messiah, but there are also a lot of, well, I think it's actually what, 0.8% of Jewish people that don't believe in Jesus Christ. These are the Jewish people, right, that you would call Jewish today. And I'm just curious from where I was brought up with my dad, like, when I used to talk to my dad about Jesus and who he was, my dad would tell me, he said, yes, we thought Jesus existed and these things happened to him, but he was not the true Messiah, you know, is the Jewish tradition and religion is that they're still waiting for the Messiah.
Starting point is 00:49:00 They don't think Jesus is the Messiah, but they do believe that the stories we hear about Jesus actually happened. Yeah. Well, you're talking about even the miracles? Well, I don't even know. I don't know. That's a good question. I wish I could ask my dad, but he's dead. Well, because obviously, look, I mean, even in the Bible, it talks about the Jewish
Starting point is 00:49:18 realized that even with the healing of the hand, the deformed hand that Jesus performed, it wasn't that they didn't believe Jesus did it. It was that he did it on the Sabbath, right? And they didn't care what he was doing. But darn, if you're like performing miracles and helping and saving people, and if it's not even life threatening, but you are actually helping people, I would think the best day to do it would be on the Sabbath. But listen, but here's my thing.
Starting point is 00:49:42 It's like, you know, if you have someone that comes along and he starts healing people and he is maybe, I don't know if, I don't know if this time he's claiming he's the Messiah, but I know that some of his disciples and people that are following him were saying he's the Messiah. And it almost sounds like that maybe the Jewish people then used that Sabbath breaking rule as a way to condemn him to death. Because they didn't believe him. Yeah. Yeah, they didn't think he was a Messiah. even though he was performing miracles. Yeah. So I want to get to top 10 miracles, right?
Starting point is 00:50:16 So Raisin Lazarus was one of them, walking on water, feeding 5,000, turning water to wine, which that's a definitely miracle. Calm in a storm, healing a Roman officer's servant, healing a bleeding woman, hilling a man born blind, healing a paralyzed man, withering a fig tree. There are many, many things that Jesus did. And many people witnessed this, right? I want to play this clip because I think this is. is a good time to play this. Now, Charlie Kirk recently was asked at one of his events on a very
Starting point is 00:50:45 liberal college campus about why he believed in Jesus. I think it was even more specific. This guy was like, proved to me that Jesus existed. And this was at UNLV campus. He was asked, why am I a Christian? And if I believe the Bible by a guy wearing a pentagram shirt thinking it would show people Satan. Now, this guy that came up to Charlie Kirk in this particular encounter was wearing a pentagram shirt, which is obviously Satanism and whatever. But this is what Charlie Kirk had to say, and I think it's a great response. And I want you guys to hear it. And by the way, let us know what you think about this response.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Here you go. And make sure the volume is up there. All right, there we go. Very, very much. Like, why is that exactly? Oh, Jesus saved my life. I'm a sinner. Gave my life to Christ.
Starting point is 00:51:30 Most important decision I ever made. So you believe the Bible is real? Yes, I believe the Bible is true and real. Why is that? Well, I could give you the technical answer. There's never been an archaeological discovery that has contradicted the truth of the Bible. And then, of course, the wisdom. There is not a truth of the Bible that if you apply to your life, your life does not improve dramatically.
Starting point is 00:51:46 And then finally, we have the most accurate and transparent, historically robust account that one can have of the most important figure ever to live in the history of the world, Jesus of Nazareth. And the resurrection is the pinpoint of my belief that Jesus did rise from the grave so that we may live. What makes Christian mythology real? So that's not mythology, but that is theology. if Genesis 1-1 and the resurrection is true, anything in the Bible is possible. You're looking at the greatest miracle. The greatest miracle is creation. And then the fact that Jesus rose from the dead.
Starting point is 00:52:17 And I say, how do you know that Jesus rose from the dead? Well, show me another historical piece of a story where so many people willingly died a brutal death for a lie. Every single person around him had everything to lose. And yet they went to the absolute death from Paul to Peter to the half-brother of James saying that Jesus is Lord, Jesus rose from the dead. Not to mention, if you were going to fake a story, you would not use female witnesses in the ancient world.
Starting point is 00:52:41 In the scriptures, it said that the women were the first one to see Jesus Christ. If you're trying to fake a story, you would never do that. Not to mention the 500 people I saw Jesus after he rose from the dead, and then the later church that lived under persecution under the belief that Jesus Christ was the son of God. And that is very true. And to Charlie's point here is that the amount of people, either prophets or disciples or whoever that were willing to die because they said Jesus is Lord.
Starting point is 00:53:09 Jesus is, he has risen, he was risen. I know it. I know that he is the son of God because of all the miracles I've witnessed, all the miracles everyone's witnessed. And then you had all these first witnesses and encounters of Jesus being risen from the grave. And the reason why, by the way, Charlie Kirk says there that if you're going to tell a lie of a story in any situation that far back. You do not use women.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Right. Because women were nothing pretty much in back in those days. It was always the man. You would always use a man to convince people that something happened. But the reality of the situation was there was a lot of women there that day. And these were some of the first witnesses to realize that Jesus had risen and that they even saw him in the sky. And then he came back 40 days after and was still doing things after they killed him.
Starting point is 00:53:55 after he was buried or put in a tomb and all of these witnesses and not only all the witnesses, but all the people that were surrounding and following Jesus, you got to remember that up and leading up to the death and crucifixion of Jesus Christ, he had gained a ton of followers, right? I mean, he had gained a lot of followers in this time. He had been performing miracles. He was going to all these various places. And as he went to these places, there were more followers and more followers that were following him,
Starting point is 00:54:23 which obviously, which is in my opinion why Rome and the Jews wanted him dead. They wanted him crucified because he was a threat. He was a threat to them. Yeah, he was a threat. And the reality is that there were so many people that witnessed what he did, that he died, that he rose. And it's literally one of the greatest stories in history of our time. It's like the most undisputed story at the very least of a person. but not only of a death and resurrection.
Starting point is 00:54:56 We've never heard of a story in historical time like Jesus. But I have to go here for just a second. You think about all the stories in the Bible that do not make sense to us today, you know, like Goliath and David or Jonah in the fish, Noah's Ark, these incredible stories that you don't think could happen nowadays. Like if you saw a Noah's Ark right now, you would not believe it existed. Because it's just hard to imagine having an ark with every single animal on the ark, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:29 These are like stories that are unbelievable, just like Jesus kind of is. But I have to say, if you believe in Joseph Noah's Ark or Jonah in the whale or David and Goliath, which a lot of people say is Nephlim. The reason why they believe in these stories is because they have faith in these stories. You know, and I think faith is a huge word as far as believing in anything in the Bible. You have to believe things that you don't really know. You got to have faith in it and you either believe it or you don't. If you believe it, you have faith.
Starting point is 00:56:05 If you don't, then you don't have faith. And you can't believe in portions of this and that and, you know, whatever you want to believe. You got to have faith in the whole thing or you have no faith in it. Yeah, absolutely. And that's part of my struggle as well is, you know, You know, I am starting to believe in Nephlem now. And, you know, I never even knew about that growing up. You know, since we did in the podcast is when I've learned about Nephlem and how they were, you know, in the world and they had sex with human women.
Starting point is 00:56:35 And these are all things that are very hard for me to understand and believe. But I have to either have faith and believe it or I don't. Yeah. And that's what I struggle with the most as far as my spirituality and my religion. Yeah. Well, Sherry and I were looking up, like, what are the biggest religions and all this stuff, right? And Christian, I believe, is the number one religion in the world, followed by, I know, Islam is there. And actually, Jewish was like one of the least.
Starting point is 00:57:03 I mean, I was actually surprised because, you know, you hear a lot about the Jewish religion, right? You hear a ton about that, but there's not a ton of Jewish people on the planet. And, but one of my thoughts on the Christian religion, as far as believing in Jesus Christ, believing that he rose from the dead. and he is responsible for, you know, forgiveness from our sins. And he is the way into heaven, you know, whatever. Because to me, if you really understand, if you really understand the Jesus story is the most believable. And if you're looking at it from a skeptical point of view, especially someone like us, where we analyze everything. I mean, you guys know our podcast, we analyze.
Starting point is 00:57:46 That's what we do. We take a situation. We take a new story or we take a conspiracy. or a or whatever the case may be and we analyze it and we give you our thoughts like is this plausible is it not plausible and so the bible thing has always been something we have been back and forth and struggled with but the reason i think for that is because it's probably the most important story that we'll ever talk about it is the most important theory we will ever speak about um because the reality of this is is that you know as we talk about uh you know ghost or interdimensionality or
Starting point is 00:58:20 CERN, for example, which we're going to have an episode coming up on that when they potentially saw a figure of some kind in CERN. And there's a lot going on with CERN and the eclipse and you name it. But to me, especially with all I have struggled and the more I have researched and the more I'm trying to understand the Bible and history and biblical history, I believe in Jesus the most of anything. I believe Jesus did die. I believe there were so many and too many witnesses to deny that.
Starting point is 00:58:50 I believe there were so many followers of Jesus that saw his miracles that that could not be denied. And I think that he was persecuted. I think he was, well, we know that he was given to the Romans by the Jews because we just covered that. The Jews said that, you know what? This guy is full of it. He, you know, committed a deathly sin by, you know, doing this on Passover or sorry,
Starting point is 00:59:17 the Sabbath. The Sabbath. Yeah. Sabbath. And they committed him to death, which is eventually, I believe, is they turned him over to the Romans for execution. But I want to read this part to you as well. Jesus gets violent.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Jesus entered the temple and began to drive out the people buying and selling animals for sacrifices. And in the last week before his crucifixion, Jesus rides a donkey into Jerusalem. Crowds of Jewish pilgrims have come to their holy city to celebrate Passover. Many cheer Jesus's arrival, greeting him as the Messiah King and carpeting his path with cloaks and palm branches. The day is Sunday. History's first Palm Sunday. Jesus visits the temple and takes notice of how religious business is being conducted.
Starting point is 01:00:02 And there are four main worship areas. Huge outer courtyard, anyone can go into this area, but it is as close as non-Jewish believers are allowed to the sanctuary. Inside the courtyard for Jewish women, all Jews are allowed here, but non-Jews. caught this close to the sanctuary risk execution, and they can read the warning engraved and stolen, painted blood red, and set into the walls. The altar courtyard for Jewish men located just outside the front doors of the sanctuary. This courtyard contains the altar where sacrifices are burned and no women are allowed. And then the sanctuary, only priests can enter this building. So Jesus sees that the temple leaders have allowed merchants to set up a market in the outer
Starting point is 01:00:42 courtyard, the sanctuary for non-Jewish believers, and perhaps the merchants have to rent the space from the priest. It must have seemed a win-win situation. The temple gets rental money, merchants make a shekel, and worshippers get animals to sacrifice along with currency exchange services, which allow them to trade their pagan coins with pictures of Roman rulers and gods for their temple-approved currency needed to pay their annual temple taxes. And of course, the Wurchbers probably paid convenience store premium prices. So in this scene, Mark mentions just one type of sacrificial animal, doves, which poor people could offer as sacrifices.
Starting point is 01:01:20 But there were probably other sacrificial animals, too, like sheep, goats, and bulls. Now, the merchants probably were scattered all over the Gentile courtyard. Archaeological evidence suggests that the temple market was mainly under a tile-roofed colonnade hallway called the Royal Stowe. Almost 200 yards long, it opened without a wall into the court. And there are two main theories about why Jesus flipped over the merchant tables and drove off the entrepreneurs and their customers. Theory one is, he is protecting the holiness of the International Worship Center and all lowering non-Jews to worship in peace. The scripture declares, my temple will be called a house of prayer for all nations, Jesus says, but you have turned it into a den of thieves.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Theory two says Jesus is symbolically acting out God's judgment on the system of temple worship. and reinforcing his prediction that the temple will be destroyed. Mark 13, 2. Romans dismantles it 40 years later. In AD 70, Jesus' sacrificial death for the sins of everyone would make the temple's sacrificial system obsolete. And so when Jesus sacrifice himself, this would make the entire temple completely obsolete. Now, Jesus came into this temple and realized, and it's not just a temple. I mean, it is literally like a fortified.
Starting point is 01:02:38 where you take and sacrifice animals. Yeah, but the Jewish people said, if you're not Jewish, you ain't coming here. And there's a little section for you if you're not Jewish. And so there was speculation that Jesus came in and said, no, that I am for all people. God is for all people. It is not just for Jews. This is for all people. That's why he potentially flipped over to tables.
Starting point is 01:03:00 But he was a Jew. So he was allowed into all parts because he grew up a Jew. But Jesus was not here just for Jews. Jesus was here for all nations. I know. He was here for all nations, but he was a Jewish person, so he was allowed anywhere in this sacrifice temple. Yeah. So, we got to get to the story because I want to discuss this as well. Because I think it's very important. The kiss of a trail. You will know which one to arrest when I greet him with a kiss. On Thursday evening, Jesus eats one last meal with his disciples. They sing at him
Starting point is 01:03:37 and then walked down into the narrow Kildren Valley of Jerusalem East Side. They didn't climb the gentle slopes of a ridge called Mountain of Olives, which where Jesus wants to pray. It's a favorite spot for him, perhaps in an Olive Garden called Jessamine.
Starting point is 01:03:52 From a word that means olive press. Some speculate it was a cave, but that's because there's a cave in the area where an ancient olive press was kept. Now, the press wouldn't have been in use since the springtime and olives aren't harvested until late in the summer. Jesus is deeply upset and grieve him.
Starting point is 01:04:09 He's bravely committed to his mission. But he is certainly willing for a last minute change of plans. Maybe God would send the same angel who had stopped Abraham from sacrificing his son, Isaac. Everything is possible for you. Jesus prays, please take the cup of suffering away from me. Yet I want your will to be done, not of mine. So Judas had left the group earlier, but now he returns with an armed escort. Jewish leaders want to arrest Jesus privately without start.
Starting point is 01:04:37 starting a riot. And Judas agrees to help them for what Matthew's gospel says is 30 silver coins, probably shekels, which is basically the trade there. The coins Jews used to pay their temple taxes. That's about 12 ounces total or $120 on today's market when silver sells at $10 an ounce. Now, Bible writers don't say why Judas sold out Jesus. Perhaps they didn't know why, but some Bible experts guess it was for the money. Others guess it was to force Jesus. Jesus into starting an uprising by taking a stand against Jewish leaders and the Roman authorities who supported them. Now, Judas signals to the arrest and officers is a kiss on Jesus' cheek. Kisses like this are a common way of greeting in Jesus' day, just as they are in many parts of the world today.
Starting point is 01:05:24 They're like a handshake in some areas. And when the officers arrest Jesus, the disciples run away to avoid getting arrested themselves. So, and there's a picture here. It said, Jesus wept here. O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets. Jesus once lamented. The church of the Lord wept, or Dominus Flevus, the Latin name it goes by, commemorates the moment of grief in Jesus' life. The window designed with a chalice and thorns serve as a grim reminder that Jerusalem eventually killed him too.
Starting point is 01:05:58 So why did Jesus have to die? You think the Almighty God could have figured out a better plan of salvation, something less bloody, something that didn't involve his son on a slab. And to be quite frank, God isn't famous for explaining himself. Suffering, Job would testify to that. God essentially told Job, there are some things that physics-bound humans can't understand about the spiritual dimensions. In those cases, God expects people to trust him. Perhaps that's the case with Jesus' death. Yet the Bible does offer a few clues about possible reasons. Sin is a capital offense. it has been from the beginning. God told Abraham that it has, or sorry, Adam, that if he broke the one and only law, eating forbidden fruit, you are sure to die. That is Genesis 217. The Apostle Paul added, the wages of sin is death. It is though God can't tolerate sin anymore than matter can tolerate antimatter. We're not going to find them in the same vicinity. Life is in the blood. God said as much when he set up the system of animal sacrifices.
Starting point is 01:07:03 The life of the body is in its blood. I have given you to blood on the altar to purify you, making you right with the Lord. It is the blood given in exchange for life that makes purification possible. Jesus' death fulfilled the death penalty requirement for everyone. Our high priest offered himself to God as a single sacrifice for sins and good for all time. When sins have been forgiven, there is no need to offer any more sacrifices, Hebrews 10, 12, and 18. Jesus' death set the stage for the resurrection. It was the resurrection that finally convinced Jesus' disciples that he was God's son.
Starting point is 01:07:38 They were convinced enough that most of them died as martyrs. After seeing Jesus risen from the dead and hearing his promise, the same future for them, they died expecting that everyone who believes in him will not perish, but have eternal life. So the verdict was death, and they took Jesus to the high priest's home where the leading priest, the elders and the teachers of religious law had gathered. And they pinned him up on the cross, which we all know that story. And he died. Now, we could go into this, I mean, which is probably the most important part.
Starting point is 01:08:13 But we all know that he died. He was put in a tomb. And then back from the dead. He isn't here. He is risen from the dead. Mark 16 says, Sabbath ends at sunset on Saturday. That's the first chance anyone has to repair Jesus' body. for a proper burial.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Mary Magdalene and other women go to the market and buy fragrant burial spices to put on the body. By sunrise the next day, the women are already on their way to the tomb, wondering how they're going to make this massive disshaped stone that's parked in front of the tomb entrance. How they're going to move it? How are they going to do this? Needless worry, the stone is already rolled aside. And an angel was waiting for them. And the angel says Jesus is gone, risen from the dead, and that he'll meet the disciples up in
Starting point is 01:08:58 Galilee. The oldest copies of Mark end here. After verse 8, some early Christians writing seemed to confirm this cutoff. Early Christian writers was quoted Mark, who either questioned to confirm this cutoff, but the authenticity of verses 9 through 20, or who skipped any reference to those verses included. At some point, perhaps, an editor copy in the book decided that the ending was too abrupt, especially considering the ending's availability in the other gospels. And scholars, scholars guessed that the editor created an add-on ending by adapting material from all three other gospels, Matthew, Luke, and John. So that is technically where it ends with his resurrection.
Starting point is 01:09:40 The tomb was moved. There was an angel that said that he is now in Galilee. And then there are other verses likewise. Now, that's the story of Jesus. And you guys, all of you believe what you want to believe. leave, right? And we've kind of talked about our thoughts on this. Yeah. And I question a lot of things about as far as sacrifice, for example, why did God make people sacrifice something that has blood, that something's alive? You have to kill something
Starting point is 01:10:08 in order for you to be pure, pure, I guess, pure. Yeah, you said it right for some. Like, I don't understand that whole philosophy, but I guess, you know, you can't really understand God either because God, you know, most people that are not religious or are religious. I think God is, you know, he is almighty. He's more powerful than anything in the world, but he is not always a giving God. He's not always a good God. He's a God of pain too.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Yeah. And suffering. And sometimes, you know, when you pray for things and you want, you know, if somebody's dying on their deathbed and they have cancer or whatever and you pray to God, God, please help this person. It's not always the case that God's going to help that person. Of course, that person's going to die. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:55 Because God doesn't just give you what you pray for, right? And so I recognize that God is a loving God, but he also is not going to give us everything we want. But I still don't understand. Oh, there's so much. There's so much. The purpose of sacrificing, like, living animals in order for you to be pure again. Or a person in this case, right?
Starting point is 01:11:19 Yeah. I mean, and the thing is, most people don't understand that, like, biblical days used to be far barbaric than they are today. Well, it's just like you're reading about, you know, Moses, was it, no, oh, God, I almost did it again. What? I'm just saying that reading about people that are willing to sacrifice their kids, their animals, or whatever, in order to appease God still doesn't make sense to me.
Starting point is 01:11:48 That's what I'm going to say. By the way, look at the next page of this book. what is that number? I can't see it on. 3.3. Oh, that's crazy. 3.3. That is kind of weird.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Yeah, that's our angel number. Yeah, we've been seeing a lot of like three number numbers like all the time. We're seeing them constantly now. I don't know what that means. But anyways, guide, we just wanted to come on here, talk about our thoughts. I mean, listen, we do not have this figured out, obviously. And if you guys are probably listening to this, you're going to be like, yeah, they definitely know that they're figured out. We don't.
Starting point is 01:12:19 Well, I'm just asking. I'm asking like logical questions that I have about, you know, and I don't even know if anyone can answer me why you have to do that. And like in the Jewish religion, you know, foods have to be kosher. They have to be prayed upon before they kill the animal. You know, they still, because they believe in sacrifice, I guess still today because they don't believe in Jesus. Well, they started to sacrifice. Yeah. And so people that believe in Jesus, they don't have to have kosher foods.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Yeah, exactly. Because Jesus died for their sins and there is no, you know, your sins are washed away. Yeah. But I think Jewish people should go out and before every meal and just kill what they're going to eat. Because that's sacrifice and right. Yeah, well, you have to. It's not just killing a meal that you eat. You're giving it to God.
Starting point is 01:13:02 I think a lot of times they probably wasted the whole animal just to give it to God. Yeah, a lot of times. You know, and they didn't even use the meat or anything. I don't know, guys. And to me, you know, I'm an animal lover. I'm just saying. And I think if you have to kill an animal, you better use every part of that animal you can. the meat, the hide, the fur, everything.
Starting point is 01:13:23 Yeah. Well, like I said, what I will say with this whole thing is I believe in Jesus personally. I do too. I believe in Jesus and I believe in the story of Jesus. Yeah, I do too. And I'm very sickened by the way this government is made this Easter holiday a transgender day of visibility. It is sickening. I think if you believe in good versus evil or is sacred.
Starting point is 01:13:49 Satan versus God, then I think what we're seeing on the earth today is Satanism. I mean, it is Satanism or it's, it is evil. I'm not even going to say Satan. It is evil, right? It's both. It's evil versus good. And I think they're pushing it in our face. I think that this is something that Christians are being persecuted for sure.
Starting point is 01:14:11 I can't speak on other religions. I'm strictly saying Christians right now. I think they're being persecuted. I think that, you know, when people are out there saying that, you know, that are saying Christ as king is anti-Semitic. I think that is ridiculous. There's a lot that I don't understand. There's a lot we don't know.
Starting point is 01:14:29 Right? We're not evangelist. We are not people that go to church every Sunday. We're not people that read the Bible all the time. We are literally just trying to figure it out like so many of you are. And listen, there's definitely going to be you out there. It's like, oh, yeah, I know everything about the Bible and I get that, right?
Starting point is 01:14:43 But we're not those people. We're just trying to do our best to understand everything that we're trying to understand. And that's what we do with this podcast. But I think those that are Christ followers, Jesus Christ followers, I think the biggest thing in that religion is you have to follow Jesus and be like Jesus. Jesus was not a king. He didn't sit on his throne. Yeah, he had a throne of thorns, but he was not on a golden throne where he was a massive warrior.
Starting point is 01:15:14 He was a fisher of men. He was looking for sinners. People like you and I, right? and I think that's the biggest thing we've got to take out of this. If you are a Christian, Christians are, you know, it's told that you are supposed to be like Jesus in any way you can be. You know, you have to fish men out to tell them about Jesus and the love for Jesus and what Jesus did for you. So you can't normally like really be mad about what Biden did. You have to pray for people like Biden.
Starting point is 01:15:47 That's just my opinion on it. But I also think, you know, at the same time, it's like, you know, I think that because of that concept, right, what you just said, I think that's also why we Christians are getting ran over like crazy. Yeah, because you're supposed to pray for people that are. No, but listen to me. That are like wrong. That's where we a little bit disagree because Christians didn't always just pray for people. Like there were a lot of battles in the Bible. and, you know, the reality of it is, is that, and I'm not saying anything about it, I'm just saying
Starting point is 01:16:21 that I think for a long time, and especially nowadays, it's like Christians are being ran over. I think a lot of Christians feel like they're being persecuted. There are Christian, you know, villages in Africa that are literally being overrun with terrorists that are killing them with AK-47 shooting right in the face. This is happening in Mexico. This happened to South America. Christians around the world are being persecuted. and you can take that for what it is.
Starting point is 01:16:47 And let me tell you something. When Biden declared Transgender Day of Visibility, that is the first sign that Christians are not safe here and they are making a very, very, very clear statement to Christians. We don't give a damn about what your belief is. We care about what our new religion that we are creating is because they want to be God. They want to be Jesus.
Starting point is 01:17:05 They want to be the almighty and powerful. They do not care about Jesus. And listen, just like God did to the Egyptian, Pharaoh, when he wanted his people led out of Egypt, God will do the same thing for any ruler of nations that believe that they are bigger or greater than God or Jesus himself. And I think that's coming. I think that's why there are so many signs that we are seeing today. I think that, you know, you can look in the eclipse.
Starting point is 01:17:34 You can look in all these things. But there are so many signs in the Bible talks about, I will send signs from the heavens. We are seeing more UFO or UAP or something we can't explain in the heavens. There are declassified documents that talk about the spirituality, potential, or intermentuality of these craft. And I think that we are seeing a very, very clear sign that something is coming. And if you think that you are the almighty powerful ruler in the United States or Russia or wherever you are. Yeah. Doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:18:03 You're about to find out. Well, I think these powerful leaders that are in office right now are people that think they are pharaohs, our kings, or their God. Absolutely. They do. And they want us to worship them. And any religion you are are not religion. You should see that plain as day. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:20 And I don't even think they care about worshiping. I think they just want to rule. They are making their own religion. I know. But they just want to rule. Yeah. And they don't even care if you worship them. They are going to command you to worship them or you will be putting shackles or
Starting point is 01:18:34 in prisons. You will be slaves. And look, we've already had this in history. Yeah. They've already tested it out on us with the pandemic. Yeah. Exactly. But we've also had this in.
Starting point is 01:18:43 in very many historical situations. Yes, but I'm just saying in our lifetime, we've also experienced it. Yes. Yeah, I mean, but we weren't slaves during the pandemic. Well, what I'm saying is, is like I'm even talking about the Jewish people and I'm not even that. I mean, talking about black people, talking about everyone that's ever been slaves. Yeah. There's been slaves throughout our time because there were always rulers that came around and thought that they were going to enslave humanity of or lesser than people.
Starting point is 01:19:09 And this is, we're about to get back in that same realm again. They want to do. They want to enslave us. Yeah, I know. You're 100% right. But guys, that's going to be it for this episode. We're not trying to tell you anything or convince you of anything. We're just telling you our thoughts.
Starting point is 01:19:25 We don't know all the answers. What I will say is thank God Jesus did die. And thank God he did rise for our sins. And I'm very grateful for that because otherwise, without Jesus, I think it's a very dark future for everyone. That's all I'll say. Happy Easter God. guys. We love you. Happy Easter guys.
Starting point is 01:19:45 Peace out. Peace out.

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