Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Elon Musk Donald Trump X Space Interview Breakdown

Episode Date: August 13, 2024

In this episode, we dive deep into the highly-anticipated Trump-Elon X Space interview, offering our analysis both before and after the conversation. You'll hear the full interview between Donald Trump and Elon Musk, and we’re joined by special guest El Dave from Alien Addict. Together, we dissect the key points and share our perspectives on how President Trump performed in this groundbreaking discussion with Elon.

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I'm your host, chat, alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. On tonight's episode, we got a good one. We are going to be commentating the Elon Musk and Donner. on Trump interview live on X at 8 p.m. Now obviously this is recorded live. We are not going live necessarily for this episode. But we do just want to bring you some of our commentary, kind of like a pre-show pregame to the interview.

And there is so much shit going on with this. The EU is coming out and saying, hey, Elon, you better watch what Trump says. There's all kinds of people trying to silence and censor this interview, which is exactly why we have to put in our podcast. By the way, we have an amazing guest again. end by the name of L Dave from Alien Addick. Dave, how's it going, man? Doing great, guys. Thanks for having me.

Man, not a problem. You're always a welcome guest here on Investigator's podcast. Everybody loves you that listens to you. So that's why we just keep getting you back on. And, you know, welcome. Well, I have a dumb question before we even get started, guys. And Chad's probably going to roll his eyes. But who is involved in the European Union?

do this is a trivia question does anybody know because i don't go ahead dave european countries there you go except except the uk yeah they left the eve okay yeah so um so guys this this this episode tonight is going to be very interesting right because you have elan musk which has been pretty prominent in his support it seems like for donald trump especially the past six to eight months you have donald trump which has not really been on x right he has true social. This is something that he has been trying to build himself, his own platform. And then today, he leading up to this interview, he has had three posts, I believe, on X today, mostly campaign ads, it seems like. So it's not Donald Trump just talking shit on X right now,

which is what we actually want to see. But he's been posting the videos of campaign ads more so than talking shit. Did he call Kamala a copycat on X? No, not on X. Oh, okay. Sorry. No, so Dave, how do you see this, this actual meeting slash, live space playing out. Is it going to be all policy related or do you see that maybe Elon may ask him some questions that more people really want to know? This is the biggest social media event in the history of the world. Wow.

And it's a shame that Joe Rogan didn't take up the mantle that Elon had to step in. Like it shows like I love Joe Rogan, but this is cowardice and foolishness on his part. I mean, it makes, I mean, not to knock him, but he was a Bernie Sanders supporter. And he's, I don't know. Like everybody has their own opinion. they're absolutely right to that. It's his business. He can do what he likes.

For sure. Just from a business perspective, he missed a golden opportunity. And Elon built a multi-billion dollar empire being a savvy businessman. He knows what this is. Well, and he also took a little shortcut saying RFK and going with RFK because we all know if you write RFK on the ballot, your vote is pretty much wasted. Yeah, it is. I mean, in reality, because there is not a large movement for RFK that unfortunately is not

the way this system works. You do not have a. choice. In reality, you have a basic two-party system, which is Republican and Democrats. You either vote for right now Donald Trump or you vote for Kamala Harris, at least at the time. The DNC is coming up next week. We don't know what shit might actually happen at the DNC. Biden's coming out and saying he is not happy with the party right now and he's finally coming out and talking about it. Yeah, and Trump's even made some, Trump's even made some accusation as like, what actually may happen at the DNC? Like, could Joe Biden come under

be like, hey, you know what? This is my damn shit. I'm the one running right now. Right, guys, right? And then he walks, you know, to the back and then he gets lost. I mean, who knows? But could they also insert someone else? I mean, you know, obviously Kamala Harris has not been voted for by anyone.

They installed Kamala Harris as the Democrat nominee. Do you see the DNC playing out like it should? Well, not like it should, but just them going with Kamala Harris, Dave? I see, that's the thing is everyone sees like this organization. I don't see disorganization. I see market testing. I see them taking samples of markets. They're testing these things.

They're getting people together. They're using AI. They're seeing if anyone catches that. They're having concerts. They're seeing what's trending. All the while, all they're sick of fans in Silicon Valley are making it impossible to find out what happened to Trump. The shooting, the details, the evidence behind it.

It's all getting hushed and watching under the rug. They're actively changing history while they're market testing how they can push their whore of Babylon. Yeah, absolutely. And so I want to play this, or not play this, I want to talk about this for a second. The European Commission, basically the European Union, came out with a letter to Elon Musk today. And it says, Dear Mr. Mus, I am writing you in the context of recent events in the United Kingdom and in relation to the planned broadcast on your platform X of a live conversation between a U.S. presidential candidate and yourself, which will also be accessible to users in the EU. I understand that you are currently doing a stress test of the

platform. In this context, I am compelled to remind you of the due diligence obligations set out by the Digital Services Act, or DSA, as outlined in my previous letter. As this individual entity ultimately controlling a platform with over 300 million users worldwide, of which one-third is in the EU, that has been designed as a very large online platform, you have the legal obligation to ensure excess compliance with the EU law, and in particular the DSA in the EU. This notably means ensuring, on one hand, that freedom of expression and information, including media freedom and pluralism, are effectively protected. And on the other hand, that all proportionate and effective mitigation measures are put in place

regarding the amplification of harmful content and connection with relevant events, including live streaming, which if unaddressed, might increase the risk, profile of X and generate detrimental effects on civic discourse and public security. This is important against the background of recent examples of public unrest brought about by the amplification of content that promotes hatred, disorder, incitement of violence, or uncertain instances of disinformation. It also implies informant EU judicial and administrative authorities without undue delay on the measures taken to address their orders against the consent considered illegal, according to national and or EU law. Also, number two, taking timely, diligent, non-arbitrary, and objective action upon receipt of notices by users considering certain content illegal. And number three, informing users concerned in the measure taken upon receipt of the relevant notice. Also, publicly reporting about content moderation measures.

In this respect, I note that the DSA obligations apply without exceptions or discrimination to the moderation of the whole user community and content of X, including yourself as a user with over 190, million followers, which is accessible to EU users and should be fulfilled in line with the risk-based approach of the DSA, which requires greater due diligence in cases of foreseeable increase of risk profile. As you know, formal proceedings are already ongoing against X under the DSA, notably in areas linked to the dissemination of illegal content and the effectiveness of measures taken to combat disinformation. As the relevant content is accessible to EU users and being able to.

amplified also in our jurisdiction, we cannot exclude potential spillovers in the EU. Therefore, we are monitoring the potential risk in the EU associated with the dissemination of content that may incite violence, hate, or racism in conjunction with major political or societal events around the world, including debates and interviews in the context of elections. Let me clarify that any negative effect of legal content on X in the EU, which could be attributed to the ineffectiveness of the way in which X applies the relevant provision, of the DSA may be relevant in the context of the ongoing proceedings and the overall assessment

of X's compliance with EU law. This is in line with what has already been done in the recent past. For example, in relation to the repercussions, the amplification of terroristic content or content that incites violence, hate racism in the EU, such as the context of recent riots in the United Kingdom. I therefore urge you to promptly ensure the effectiveness of your systems and report measures taken by your team. Oh, my gosh.

Why are they so afraid of Trump? And I'm just going to say right now, anything I say tonight is allegedly, in my opinion. Well, whatever. Why are you even scared the EU, dude? This is a freaking United States of America. Well, I mean, that is a free, like, trip to Europe. Yeah. Dave, what is your thoughts on this whole thing, right?

I mean, to me, it sounds like election interference in the United States, but I don't know. It's worse than that, right? So we always have to take into context. Violence starts when the conversation ends, right? And violence only ends when the conversation restarts. What you have Europe doing is trying to end free communication, free speech. That's insane. Everybody has a voice.

Whether you hate them or not, everybody's got a voice. What you see here going on is they referenced it interesting. Like I've read that thing several times today and it makes my blood boil. because what she's implying is that the EU can govern anyone with a large social media presence. And where does that end? Is that podcast? You got a million people that listen to your podcast. You're now under EU law.

You're now subject. How? I'm not subject to anything. I'm not your subject. I am a free man in the free nation of America. In 1776, we told all you people what you can do. Right. Keep it, stick it, move on.

No, you're absolutely right. The audacity. What's that? No, I said, and I said you're. absolutely right. I mean, that, that's the reality is, it's like, since when is the EU and the UK become our mother and dad's? Yeah. When have they become our law enforcement? The audacity, the boldness, the arrogance to write something like that could only be done by a bureaucrat. Yeah. Could only be accomplished by a bureaucrat who believes that is. And when you read it, like, you take the time to

read it, you realize it's probably got three writers and one of them used a lot of AI. And what is the deal with amplification, their fixation on amplification. I feel like that is a defining word they're going to start trying to apply to social media. Like that's the language in which they're trying to structure this to be able to write laws and use their nonsensical enforcement on. Right. Like, well, you're amplifying hate speech. What is hate speech? This is subjective. And one of the things I took away is it's towards the bottom. I believe it's like the third paragraph in the bottom when they're talking about that they have individuals who will be monitoring and then turning it in and they expect reports back on how he is to address.

And when you look at it, it's how they perceive something to be illegal. For sure. They consider it to be illegal. It is up to their own observation, not the letter of the law or any stated law. No, you're absolutely right. And you know what's even more mind-blowing? Check out this clip. This was a Washington Post reporter in the press conference today with Kiong, John

Pierre, whatever the hell her name is. and I always screw up her name, and I'm glad I do. I don't know her damn name, and I don't care. And so this is a Washington Post reporter that just asked a press secretary what they plan to do about this live X-space between Elon Musk and Donald Trump. Listen to shit. This is crazy. Elon Musk is slated to interview Donald Trump tonight on X. I don't know if the president is going to do that.

Go free to say if he is or not. But I think that misinformation on Twitter is not just a campaign issue. It's an America issue. What role does the White House or the president have in sort of stopping that or stopping the spread of that or sort of intervening in that? Some of that was about campaign misinformation, but, you know, it's a wider thing, right? Yeah, no. You've heard us talk about this many times from here about the responsibilities that social media platforms have when it comes to misinformation, disinformation.

Don't have anything to read out from here about specific ways that we're working on it, but we believe that, that they have the responsibility. These are private companies, so we're also mindful of that, too. But look, I think it is incredibly important to call that out as you're doing. I just don't have any specifics on what we have been doing internally. So that's what was asked. Basically, they asked the press secretary if the Biden regime could intervene and stop Trump's interview with Elon Musk on X because they are afraid of disinformation and misinformation.

I mean, this reminds me so much, Sherry and Dave, about if you guys remember the Me Too movement, right, where everybody got on board with this. And it just seems like now in 2024, we're, you know, what, a couple, two, three months from the election, they are desperately. trying to do the Me Too thing, but it's just on free speech. They want to completely kill and destroy free speech. What is your thoughts, Dave? I totally agree.

I mean, not only that, her language, I think, is telling, right? Like, I can't tell you what they are. So they are doing something. That's a confirmation. And she didn't say, listen, this is America. Everybody has the right to speak. What does it matter to the, what does it matter to the White House? Well, someone else, a candidate for president, someone who's running to be duly elected

by the citizenry to run this country. What does it matter what they're saying? They're a functionary to do a job. She's the mouthpiece of the president. The president should have no opinion on this. And he shouldn't use the weight of the White House to push for his campaign. Nor should the VP Camilla Harris. If Biden's even alive, I've only seen a guy six inches taller than his wife walking around.

So I don't know who that is. It's evil. And we're on the cusp of something dark. So why do you think they're sending this letter, guys? Like, why are they so threatened by this interview? The EU? I think they want to outlaw and ban X from the EU. Just because of all the chaos going on in UK?

Well, not just that. I mean, because as you remember, EU, UK, all that, they're different. But at the same time, I think it's a global push. It's a global push to silence opposition. It is a global push to silence any platform that is arbitrary to the, their agenda and through their narrative. I mean, we're seeing it with the, with the World Federation of advertisers, which are going hard on Rumble and X.

They're trying to take all of the revenue dollars, all of the advertising dollars from these platforms, the platforms that specifically go against them. And especially on X, we got to understand that regardless of whatever people think about Elon Musk, X is by far the number one news platform, period. I mean, Elon posts this many times is validated and proven that there are. are more people getting their news from X than any other platform anywhere. And so when you have something like this, I mean, you know, you think about some momentous platform like X.

X is the big foot in the woods. I mean, that's what X is. And he's dominant. He's powerful, even though he is being, I mean, you can find X a lot easier. And they're still using the, they're still using the community notes for people. And I think. And they're weaponizing that shit. Yeah.

And I think you're kind of against it. But at least it's giving people. opportunity as a whole to say this is what I think about that. For sure. I don't know if you guys noticed. The Donald Trump's space is up. Really? Okay.

Yeah. Is it already up? So it's going to be on Trump's actual platform, right? Is that true? It's Donald Trump's space is the one I'm looking at right now. He says he's the host. Donald J. Trump is the host. I haven't clicked to listen.

Okay. Well, I'm going to go ahead and go join the space right now. So it's on truth social. No, no. It's on X. Oh, on X. Hold on. Let's see if there's anyone talking yet.

Okay, no one's talking yet. So I guess this will be sitting here for about 10 minutes, but that is the pregame music right here that you hear. Oh, my God. That reminds me a Pac-Man a little bit. I want to get to another quick clip before we get to this. It's very quick. But Dave, I want your opinion as well about this. We've actually mentioned this on one of our other podcast about something that Greg Gutfeld explained Donald Trump so eloquent.

as far as what his thoughts were on who Donald Trump really is. And this is kind of like someone recording a television version of this. Sorry, guys, but you're going to have to hear it this way. It's not that bad. But I just want to get the message across as far as Greg Gutfield's explanation of how he sees and views Trump versus how they're trying to make you perceive Trump. Check this out. Oh, wait. You know what I'm going to do?

Yeah, I'm an idiot. No, it's not that. It's the fact that I'm actually still in Trump's space. real quick, but let me go ahead and leave this for just a second. And then we'll get to Greg Gutfeld's take here. Here you go. Because he is. There's not that phony engagement of the establishment politician where they say exactly

enough. It's neat and it's tidy. And it's almost impossible to remember what they said after they said it. Politicians are trained to say nothing, you know, and he can't do that. He never got that training. So I think when you're watching vintage trucks. You have to realize that this is how he's going to be in meetings with people who aren't friendly to the United States or people who want something from America and we demand scrutiny and reciprocity. So just replace the media with all those people.

He's not a figurehead. So if you're looking at him, but I can't stand there. He's not a figurehead. He's an agent. He's your agent. He's America's lawyer. He's in the room there to represent his client. America. Your needs and your concerns, he's supposed to be an asshole. You know, he's not

interested in impressing the other people in the room. I want an agent or a lawyer with that relentless energy that makes people upset. And the country needs that. We've had four years of perk hungry elites who are there for the pomp and not for the people. So it's kind of, you have to look at this stuff as a necessity that this guy is going to be that way in a room. people that have been screwing us over forever. Do you want him or do you want Kamala? Who do you want in that room? You want the guy that nobody likes because they don't like him for a reason.

There you go. Dave, what is your first thoughts and reactions to that? Do you agree with that? I think it's 100% accurate. I think it's 100% accurate. That's who he is, right? The art of the deal. If you've read the book, other people who have seen him work,

that's he's who he is all the time he's cunning that's the thing is people portray him is dumb because of the language he uses i see him as clever he's a well-educated man why does he speak at the level he does because he knows who he's speaking to yeah those people drooled over obama because he used 10-cent words that he didn't use correctly all the time and people oh they fond over the intellectuals and the egg heads oh they loved it common man hated him because they felt spoken down to they felt like he's being pompous and not actually actually trying to communicate. He's trying to speak beyond them and rule from a place of authority.

Trump doesn't do that. He's just a dude. Right? He speaks locker room talk. She's the guy on the golf course, talking shit, playing golf, having a good time. And I think it tells a thousand words when Iran is trying to already collude this new election going on. And they're trying to interfere with election, even hacking his website, because it's telling

them they don't. campaign. They actually hacked his campaign. Yeah, they don't want him to be president. And no wonder why. Why do you think they don't want him to be president? Yeah, I mean, that's kind of the initial reports we're getting right now is that Iran. This was a report that came out yesterday that Trump's campaign was hacked. And I guess the investigation so far is saying that it's Iran. Now, that could be bullshit. That's what Microsoft says. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Microsoft, of course, says it. But you also got to do. I got to remember that, you know, Microsoft and others have been trying to say, oh, Iran is the one that wants to kill Donald Trump. Yeah. And you're forgetting about crooks.

Yeah, you're forgetting about crooks. You're forgetting about if it was a deep state internal plan to assassinate Donald Trump. What else better way to do it? We didn't even hear about the Iran assassination plot, supposedly, until after crooks tried to freaking kill Trump. You're talking about the guy that got arrested the day before? Well, it is as a matter. We did not hear anything about an Iran, Iran assassination attempt until after. after crooks tried to kill Trump.

We did not hear anything about that until then. Don't you think that's kind of convenient, Dave? I don't think it's convenient. I think it is synchronized. Yeah. I think one, I think both failed. I think it,

and that's, that's kind of the craziest part, the fact that they can't even kill a president anymore with that kind of guarding and that, like, this is your best play you moved at. Like, boy,

you guys are incompetent. Like, you showed your hand. You showed your hand that you're incapable. Yeah. no you're right and have you heard about all the other guys like for example i know we had um well there was the japan guy that was running for president in japan that was assassinated if you remember not that long ago i think it was about a year ago you also had the uh attempted was it attempted

or actual assassination from the guy from god what country was that like god why cannot think about it now we just talked about on a podcast a few days ago but all of these people seem to be people that are against the New World Order, against the World Health Organization, pandemic treaties, all of this stuff. And then these countries that are against this, that are against the wide open borders, the mass immigration, the globalist move to take control over the world, very similar, by the way, to what's going on with the UK, even especially with the European Union letter to Elon Musk and X talking about we are going to make sure that you don't say this and this on your platform

about your elections in the United States. guys this this movement for a new world order is is going very very very very fast don't you think i think the speed is picking up because the center cannot hold right everything's fraying at the edge and what people are waking up to thanks to you know Elon musk hate him love them think he's the anti-christ whatever at this moment the enemy of my enemy is my friend yeah so that's what I have to go with. That's why I'm on team Trump, right? Is it because I love Trump? Yeah. Is it because everyone that I despise hates him with passion? Sign me up. Give me the hat, right? Here we are. You know, they're shooting it as both. I'm going to go get in that hole. You know what I mean? I think they have to escalate things. I think a lot of the, there's a lot of things going on. And because there's so many things going on at once, we're missing things. Like all the cancer experts that diagnosed,

plane crashed together. Yeah. Which is nuts. How many words there? Like 15? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And this was coincidence, right? Of course. Sure. I'm sure. Where is Ashton Forbes orbs when you need them? Right?

I mean, damn it. Where were the orbs then? Because they did not save that plane. That plane was in a flat spin. And by the way, we're talking about the Colombian ATR that crashed. And I think it was at 17,000 feet and then somehow got into a dead spin. and you know they've never seen a plane crash like that before well it's interesting right i mean being kind of involved in aviation for as long as i've kind of been when you see that just

flat spin which basically is like it got to some point in this flight to where there was no more forward momentum to the point where it wasn't just crashed you know nose diving down right this thing got in a spin now that's all very possible what that tells me though is that at some point in time this plane stalled. And if you're at 17,000 feet flying in a four trajectory and you somehow get to a stall type position, which is not that hard, especially if, say, for example, an engine goes out or your feathering an engine in a certain way, especially ATRs are tough. But nonetheless, it's still weird because even if you're trying to pull that nose up,

which in ATR, especially with the way those planes are, you know that that's not what you want to do because those planes are not very aerodynamic as far as, You know, that's why anytime I would see an ATR or if I was ever going to go on a flight and there was an ATR that, you know, that was my flight. I was like, nope, ain't no damn way because I've, they actually do have a decent crash history. They're not, they're not the safest airplane. So they're kind of like Boeing. Yeah, but they're actually made by Airbus. Airbus is a company, I think, that makes.

Because I'm glad I'm not an astronaut right now because they're like 60 days in space right now and can't get home. On a side note, I guess I didn't get to tell you. So I have a NASA contractor. He's kind of my NASA insider guy. Yeah. And I was asking him about that. He sent me, oh, what was it? Capricorn 1.

He said Capricorn 1. That's all I'm going to say. So we need to investigate that. Yeah. Where we were going to send them in to the Mars. Right? And then they're in the movie. It's a movie.

They're pulled off last minute because, you know, they say there's a safety reason. Like life support wouldn't make it. But we have to pretend that you're going there. have to pretend so we can film it back. And they take them, hold them their family's hostage and make them act out the entire thing. Wow. The reporter is trying to figure it out and people are trying to kill other people. And it's the government.

It's a crazy movie that's been overlooked. And I thought it was weird, but he put that out there. Yes, that is weird. Like, is something else going on? Yeah. And maybe they're not in space. And you got to remember, too, you know, Donald Trump just going to his campaign event in Montana the other day, they had to make an emergency landing with their aircraft.

and it sounds like it was hydraulic issues, but let me explain something to you guys. They try to just kind of discredit the hydraulic issue thing. Oh, it's just nothing more than hydraulic issue. But if you actually want to sabotage an aircraft, hydraulics is a great way to do it in a lot of various ways. There's a lot of things that airplanes work off hydraulics, especially landing gear.

But there are other parts of the aircraft that work on hydraulics, especially the older Bowens that Donald Trump has. And so there was a lot of people who are speculating? Are they trying to kill Trump in an airplane? because there's, you know, that was something that was said. Like, I would be very careful about flying. Oh, yeah. Who's around your airplane?

Who's touching it? What they're doing. You know, you've got to watch that shit 24-7. Well, look at what happened to the Iran guy in the helicopter. Exactly. The main leader. They've crashed into a mountain. Like, how does that happen with the main leader of a country?

Yeah, that was interesting. I don't know. But I'm a sad probably. They probably tell you how that shit worked out. I don't know. So, so let me check a real quick. Okay, so it's still loading. Now, it's 8 o'clock right now, everybody.

And so it should be starting momentarily. But the last time. Let me do this. I'm going to turn this down. Trump made us wait like 10 minutes, his last episode. Yeah, you're going to hear this sound in the background. But that way, at least we can hear as soon as it actually starts. We'll hear someone talking.

But Dave, so Dave, do you think that Elon's going to ask him any questions that are like hard-hitting questions? Do you think there's going to be any? I think they're just going to talk. Really? Okay. I think Elon understands something that the media doesn't. Like, all Trump does is interviews. No one just talks to the guy. And his best moments are just conversation.

Because that's who he is, right? When he's in a meeting or a board or he's working the room, just a conversation. He's out there trying to be somebody's not. He's just working it. Yeah. That's why I think it's a tragedy that Joe Rogan missed this opportunity. Yeah. Elon has taken this from him.

Like X is now going to surpass the Joe Rogan experience. Yeah. but Elon is so alien like in this conversation. You know, he's like a computer almost like. He's very methodical. Yes. Yeah, he's definitely thinking before he speaks. Yeah.

Yeah, and that's what's so hard for some people like myself at times. Like, you know, I don't necessarily always think, but you can always see Elon when he's asked a question. He's computing. He'll be like, um, and he's computing that thing, right? And whatever it is. Because he's got the neurolink in his brain. He probably does. Have you thought about that?

I mean, I think, like, if you created NeurLink, why would you not having it in your brain to, you know, make yourself more productive? Because Elon is running all these companies. He says it doesn't get very much sleep, but yet he's able to do all these various things. And that's not easy to do. I have an interesting insight into some people in Silicon Valley. And I can respond with this. The people that I know, they don't let their kids play around on iPads or social media or anything like that. They haven't read physical books, do physical math.

they're not influenced like YouTube's incredibly monitored you know like they get maybe half hour a day or something like that and then it's back to outside or and these are the people doing all the development and they're like yeah I'd like for my kid to develop and they're like why don't you want them

there's like everything is designed to entrap it and snare it's what they design yeah the flash pattern screen rates cycles colors all that especially yeah colors I've always known that colors are a huge thing right and there was there was a video I watched not long ago about the effect of blue lighting especially and how you could actually really be either affected both emotionally and also physically in a lot of ways with blue lighting.

And it was something that I think that it was a guy that was a huge tech guy. This guy was extremely smart. He kind of knew how all this stuff worked. And he said, if you guys think MK Ultra is something that was so far out of reach, like it didn't actually exist, which it did, and I believe still does. He said, you don't even got to do that anymore. You're just got to watch a screen now. They affect you with all kinds of things, subliminal messaging and audio and visuals.

And some of that is also lighting, screen patterns. All of these things that you don't realize or affecting you or making your conscious decision to do this or that are all of these things. And then you can even, and that's not even talking about the manipulation of other people, that you don't even necessarily know or manipulative. manipulating you. So why would Biden go for his address and he had all red and looked like it was all demon? You know what I'm talking about?

His presidential address? Yeah. And he had those two soldiers standing next to him. Like it was like military style address. He wanted a very authoritarian viewpoint, I think. I think he's shown power. So apparently the thing is up, Trump and Elon are both up. Yeah, I'm listening, but there's, I'm just, I'm not.

Still nothing. No, right here is what I hear right here. Yep. So they still have not started yet? It says there's 115,000 people have joined this space right now. Yeah, mine says 117. I'm trying to log in and it's freeze in my whole system. Well, at least we're in right now.

I'm actually seeing other reports saying that they are not able to get in as well. It's probably going to crash the whole system. I don't think it's that they're going to crash it. I think that other governments are heavily vested in crash. Oh, that's, yeah, that is a good point. And by the way, keep this in mind, guys, for people that don't believe, believe that's possible, it's actually not even that hard. If you can overload a system with packets, packets basically meaning data, which is what the system

partakes as you. So you're bandwidth. All of these things that these servers depend so heavily on. That's why Elon last night was doing this, you know, this stress test on the system. But you don't, you also don't know what, you know, what type of, what type of attacks you can get. And attacks can be very easy and very methodical, but also instead of it being 115,000 people, they could be sending packets to whatever servers that some hackers have figured out what the servers are actually on. And they're going to overload the servers to where it actually can't ever get out.

So do we know about his stress test last night, how it went? Must have went fine, I guess. And they gave the green light. I do know I just tried to listen to Alex Jones. So he has 245,000 sitting. And my computer froze again. Like it won't even let me listen to him. So it makes me think is X.

Crashing itself. Like X is crashing. Wow. I told you if Rogan had done this, he would have shut down the world. This is the biggest event in history. It is. Nobody's had direct accent, access to United States president like this. That's why they hated him so much with Twitter originally because you could talk to him.

Yeah. You know, some people got their feelings butt hurt, you know, with his tweets. But, you know, I'd rather have somebody that talks like that and acts like that that is a businessman and keeps our country like running the way it should be. Yeah. And I'm just on Elon Mosque, or Elon Musk. Elon Musk, I'm on his ex account, not seeing anything new. So as of right now, it seems like it's still going to go off. Right now it says 106,000 people have joined, which, you know, it was up to 123 a minute ago.

Now it's 106. people are probably getting in and out, I would think. I can't listen to any other broadcasts either. I think those numbers are grossly wrong. Yeah, they have to be. Yeah, I mean, there's no way. It's only 106,000 people unless they have a system where it cuts off the actual live listeners during the space.

That would be smart. Yeah, just because, you know, if you don't want to overload your servers, whatever the case may be, then you would think that you would have a way to cut off how many listeners are actually going to be able to get in the space. Because I just don't, I don't see it. I mean, I could be wrong, but I don't see it almost be impossible for one million people with X's platform to be able to listen live.

I think it would, I don't know, I don't know they would go so well. What if it's even more than that? Yeah, exactly. I mean, it could be 10 million, you know, we don't know. 30. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, the EU is worried about this for a reason. I've seen people like, because my friends at the other show, they're all European.

They're, you know, from the UK. and they know people that are staying up to watch this. Yeah, that's crazy. What time is it? Yeah, 2 a.m. Now, are you able to still get into Alex Jones? No, I haven't been able to get into anyone else's. So Ashton Forbes is allegedly hosting one.

I can't enter it. Hmm. I can't enter any broadcast. That's very interesting. I'm going to go actually. And guys, you're just kind of hanging out with us. So if you're obviously, a lot of you're going to be listening after the fact. But we, this is what we're experiencing live right now.

it is 8.06 or sorry, 808 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. And I'm just going to go in here and just check out what's going on. Let's see if I can get an Alex Jones. Let's see. Nope. Nope. No, everything's frozen. What about truth social or whatever?

No, he's not hosting on true social. Yeah, but he could be streaming at there. He's not now. The whole thing with this is that he is kind of like his return to X. He's not going to utilize. true social in any way, shape, reform for this. That's all on X. And I would assume Elon Musk and Trump agreed to this and said, hey, like, we're doing

this on X. This is what we're going to do. I think this is the greatest testament to Trump and that everyone is sick of this woke. Mind virus, nonsense, gender swapping, kid mutilating not like foolishness. Amen. It's because so many people are tuning in and it is shutting down. Like, I'm looking underneath the comments and it's gayway pundit, not working for me. John Rich is there.

Isaac's office there. In Wokeness, Tony from Tony Merkel, Valentina Gomez, who just ran for office, Libs of TikTok, Wall Street Apes, big people with huge followings. You know what I mean? 385,000 views, 230,000 views, 500,000 views, 730,000 views on different comments.

Yeah, we're actually also, yeah, we're also seeing Hodge twins saying anyone having trouble listening with the space, so Trump and Elon, I wanted all day, Amber Rose, I waited all day for this and can't get in. Yeah, Bill Malugian, I can't get into the Trump Beeline interview, says space not available. So the view ticker is still going. Yes.

Yeah. It's 11.1 million views. Oh, my gosh. I bet you, yeah. I mean, Joe Rogan missed on this one. Yeah, he did. You know, that affiliation he has for Bernie Sanders is costing him. You know, you're like, dude, you left L.A. for a reason.

Yeah. Seriously. Like, open your mind. to the rest of the world. Like, I get that you live an isolated life, but come on. I think he really changed

when they went after him during COVID. You know, when they all went after him, it was no longer was he going out there on the limb. He was trying to, like, play both sides. Well,

he was trying to conform. Yeah. Yeah. And I think he's, I think he's been still doing that. Yeah, because he used to be my favorite podcaster. I used to listen to everything he ever had.

And now I don't really even listen to him that much like I used to. I don't know. No, I don't either. So right now live, it says, 199,000 people have joined the space. So there are people still getting in, but, you know, it seems like, you know, to your point, obviously there's way more people trying to get in.

This thing is overloading, I believe. I think you have 10 to 20 million people trying to access it at once. Hmm. He has 85, or 88.5 Trump, Donald Trump has 88.5 million followers on X. Yeah. All right. His fan base. base is is rabid they're fanatical they absolutely show up they come out they show up so how many of them

are up here just like yeah i'll click it i'm gonna listen to that i'm gonna listen to that i'm gonna listen to that my wife never listens to things like this she's like i'm gonna try and listen to that good for her a quick funny i saw today because i have a couple people that are you know far left on my facebook and this girl today tweeted about tim waltz he's like she's like tim waltz only has 250,000 people on Facebook. That tells you guys what we need to do. Let's go and follow him. I just thought it was so funny.

They only had 250,000 people on Facebook. How many horses follow him? Yeah. By the way, I do want to say that the left is doing what they're calling the blackout of the space tonight. They want to black out X. They want to get off X platform and not have anything to do with it and post some kind of nothing but black i don't know what the hell that yeah get off so we can watch well they're not well

they say they're not going to watch but they're damn sure going to watch they want you to believe they don't watch but they're going to yeah everyone's saying anyone else having trouble ryan garcy is post on elon musk what happened to the space oh man is this space not going to happen that is the question i think it's too much yeah i mean because for a lot i think if they would have recorded it and posted it, they'd be having the same problem. That is how popular he is right now. And that makes you feel like really good about it because there's so many people that make you feel like you're the minority.

You're the only one that is a Trump supporter. And everyone loves Kamala Harris and Tam Walt. Everyone loves them. You saw the picture of them, I think was Kamala outside her plane with thousands of people at the plane, which people are now saying it was AI. generated. Yeah, it was. You know, I don't know about Camilla's popularity unless you're an elder man working in a

position of power in the L.A. area. She's pretty popular there or used to be. As far as Tim Walts, I know he's wildly popular at the Kentucky Derby. He's a horse's number one fan. Yeah, and so I still don't know what the deal with that story is, which I guess we've got to be careful of that a little bit. because yeah you got a tiptoe around it you guys can do your own research yeah he he did something horrible with biological matter from a male horse yeah and i've tried to research that to see like

what the legitness of it i don't know and that's why i don't know but it's hilarious yeah it's funny it is pretty funny it is pretty by the way nicholas flintaz let's talk about this while we're waiting nick flintez obviously one of the biggest jew haters there is on uh the x platform and just basically on any platform. He's banned on everything a little while back. And although I do agree with some of his stance on America first and, you know, Christ is king and all these things, he has said that after the Donald Trump interview tonight, he is going to start a war with the Trump campaign. And he's, Trump's not going to be able to not listen and all this shit. And I will say this again. Nick Fuentes reminds me of like a Harry Sisson, but on the right.

And that's what's so strange. Even though Harry Sisson is just, you know, he's, constantly sucking up to Biden or whoever. Now Kamala, right? But the interesting thing is I still think that in my opinion that Nick Fuentes in some way, shape, or form is a paid opposition. He garnered a lot of his base on the back of Trump and the support for Trump until when he went to, I guess, turning point and Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro. and then he came out so heavily hating not just Israel, but Jewish people in general.

I mean, let's make no mistakes about this. Nick Fuentes hates Jewish people, period. I mean, there is zero question about that. He makes it very well known, very apparent all the time. And now it's like he's trying to also now shift his large following that has followed him for a very long time based on his support for Trump. He's now trying to start a war with Trump and trying to turn people away from Trump. he's saying that is because oh well we we got to make sure that Trump's campaign is run right and we got to make sure that you know Trump fires these people that are doing this stupid shit in his campaign it's not what it is he's been going after Trump this entire time and in my mind I don't know who he's getting paid by but I think he's getting paid by somebody like he's an implant to shift someone but how did he get these people on his you know side in the first place well I mean I don't he was a commentator he was

was with these major turning point and in some of these other ones. And so he built this mass following. But then he really started obviously going against Israel and Jews and now he's going against Trump. So it's just it's kind of like a methodical thing that keeps going and going and going. He's definitely the classic guy that the liberal media needs to point out and say that everyone like Trump is anti-Semite. Everyone that follows Trump is a racist. Everyone that he's the guy that gets quoted. Mm-hmm.

Right. He's like the person that they have stood up. it proves them right. Yeah. And if they're pulling out all the stops, then like, hey, you know how we've been doing this? We need you to go after Trump now. What? Just do it.

The checks will keep coming. Just do it. Yeah, absolutely. I want to see, I want to see the latest. Let's see. Let's see what's going on. I can't get in you. Nick Puentes, space is down for anybody else.

Everybody having trouble getting on Trump space. I mean, the devil. I mean, we're in the space. that's the that's what's weird get out because oh yeah don't get out yeah yeah we're in space it's it's so bizarre because when i look up like elon or donald sometimes it shows that they're on a thing sometimes it shows that they're not people are posting snapshots that they're inside and able to see everyone there yeah we can see pictures of all the people there is that what you're talking about yeah yeah it's it's in there yeah it's very interesting i just got in oh yeah

Hey. Yeah, I just saw Tim Cast. He was on the top of the list. Isn't that his name, Tim Kast? No, Tim Poole. Oh, Tim Poole, whatever. Yeah, it's, but that is his show name, I think, is Tim Kast. Yeah, so I was right.

So why are you saying I'm wrong? No, I'm just saying. His name's Tim Poole, but Tim Kast, I guess, is what they call his show. It's not letting me in because it's saying I'm already in a space. Like, it just pumped me out. This is interesting. I mean, at the very least, if they were able to actually do the space, wouldn't they just have already started talking by now, regardless of, you know, who can get in,

who can't, wouldn't they just talk and then it would be recorded and it would be out? I would think so. So I'm in here where it says it has 212 other thousand listeners under Donald Trump's space. I cannot join the space since you're already in the space. I'm not in any space. I am in trouble though So X recently suspended me for 12 hours And why is that?

Yeah, explain that Yeah, the lady who wrote that letter I told her she could shove an authoritarian cactus up her fascist Which really, I mean, I've said worse That's the one that got me 12th, that was funny if anything 12 to life baby, you know, I mean, it's like, you know, it's tough doing hard time on X 12 hours

no I've said this before which is also very interesting is that we have been banned or censored on X more than we've been on any other platform we really have I mean we've been suspended at least four times on X yeah and Facebook was like once or showing the naked dude running through the hotel room that everybody thought was Hunter that we still don't even know for sure that is definitely Hunter

So Elon Musk one minute ago, there appears to be a massive DDoS attack on X. Oh, what did I say? What did I say? Boom. There you go. There appears to be a massive DDoS attack on X working on shutting it down. Worst case, we will proceed with a smaller number of live listeners and post a conversation later.

So at the very least, we are in. And I did warn this just before this happened. I said that it's not actually very hard to do an attack, a DDoS attack in particular. There are kids in basements that can do this shit. I'm not kidding. And I used to be one of those kids, I'll just say. So who do you think is doing the attack? Do you think it's Iran?

It could be, no, not. It could be anybody. Or people from America. Probably Democrats somewhere. NSA. Yeah. Who knows? NSA filtering it through to look like people.

They're doing something that couldn't be traced back to them. And that would be easy for intelligence agencies. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I mean, the federal government. already took shots at him, why would they let them speak? Like, it's a full on war.

For sure. You know, very potentially like you were talking about with the airplane thing, you wanted them down, that's the way to do it. Yeah, I just wonder. So, you know, with Elon's point, though, you know, they have an attack working on shutting it down. Worst case, we'll proceed with a smaller number of live listeners and post-conversation later.

I just wonder if whoever is actually in this live stream right now will be able to hear this or not. But we are in as far as we know. so hopefully this will proceed without a hitch. Hello, everyone. Oh, here we go. My apologies to the late start. Here we go.

We unfortunately had a massive distributed denial of service attack against our servers and saturated all of our data lines. Like basically hundreds of gigabets of data were saturated. We think we've overcome most of that. And so it's not time to proceed. But as this massive attack illustrates, there's a lot of opposition to people just hearing what President Trump has to say. And so, but I'm honored to have this conversation. I want to emphasize it's a conversation.

And it's really intended to just get a feel for what Donald Trump is just like in a conversation. So it's hard to catch a vibe about someone if you just don't hear them talk in a normal way. And when there's an adversarial interview, like no one's themselves in an adversarial interview. And this is really aimed at kind of open-minded, independent voters who are just trying to make up their mind. And so you can understand like what is, you know, what does it just like to have a conversation? So, I'm honored to, it's a, Donald, great, great to speak. We had a great conversation yesterday. As you mentioned yesterday, if we could just record that conversation and post it, it would have been excellent.

And I hope we can have something like that today. Well, I think we will. I'm pretty sure we will. and congratulations because I see you broke every record in the book with so many millions of people. And that's an honor. We view that as an honor. And then you do want silencing of certain voices. Usually those are voices that have something to say that are constructive, oftentimes constructive.

And so we have to consider it an honor. But congratulations on breaking every record in the book tonight. That's great. Well, thank you. Well, maybe we could start off with, I mean, the assassination attempt, which was an incredible thing. And I have to say that, you know, your actions at that assassination attempt were inspiring. You know, you instead of shying away from things, instead of ducking down, you were pumping your fist in the air and saying, fight, fight, fine. And I think that's, I mean, you know, the president of the United States represents America.

And I think that is, that is America. That is strength under fire. And so that's, you know, a big, you know, part of the reason why I was excited to endorse you as the president of the United States for having another term here is that was just incredibly inspiring. but I mean, what was it like for you? Not pleasant. I have to be honest. I said there was blood. I didn't know I had that much blood.

The doctors later told me that the ear is a place that is a very bloody place if you're going to get hit. But in this case, it was probably the best alternative you could even think about because it went at the right angle. and, you know, it was a hard hit. It was very, I guess you would say surreal, but it wasn't surreal. You know, I was telling somebody you have instances like this or like a lot less than this where you feel it's a surreal situation. And I never felt that way.

I knew immediately that it was a bullet. I knew immediately that it was at the ear. Yeah. And because it, you know, it hit very hard, but hit the ear. And I also heard people shout bullets, bullets, you know, get down, get down. Because I moved down pretty nicely, pretty quickly. And we had bullets flying right over my head after I went down. So I'm glad I went down.

The bigger miracle was that I was looking in the exact direction of the shooter. And so it hit me at an angle that was far less destructive than any other angle. So that was the miracle. That was for those people that don't believe in God, I think we got all started. thinking about that. You have to, you know, I'm a believer. Now I'm more of a believer, I think, and a lot of people have said that to me. A lot of great people have said that to me, actually. But it was amazing that I happened to be turned just at that perfect angle. And all because I put down a chart on immigration that showed that the numbers were so great. I love that chart even more now.

Maybe it's a sign. Maybe that's a sign. It's an immigration sign. You highlighted a serious issue at that moment. That's right. The bullet missed your, you know, hit your ear, but, you know, most, you missed your head. I mean, the amazing thing is that the sign, I said, bring down that sign on immigration. And it was literally about an eighth of a second where it would be good. And after that, it was going to be a disaster, no matter which which way you were facing. But it just had that perfect angle, which was exactly at the end.

this shooter, very sad situation. Such a sad situation. As you know, we lost somebody that was great Corey, who a firefighter, a great gentleman, a great trumper. He was just a fantastic family and a fantastic man. And a friend of mine came up, Elon, and said, I'd like to give the family some kind of help. And I said, that's great. He said, do you mind? I said, I don't mind at all. And he wrote out a check for a million dollars gave it to the wife and you know she said this is really nice but I'd rather have my husband back which is

a nice thing to somebody to say to be honest she's she's great the family is great and we raised a lot of money for them and for two other gentlemen who are unbelievable people also they were hit really badly they thought they were not going to make it and they did the doctors in the

butler area I tell you they were incredible they saved the two and they were really hit tough, both of them. Equally. And we thought, my first question was because I heard bullets flying over me, and I said, how many people were killed?

Because we had a massive crowd there, a tremendous, thousands and thousands of people. And there was no land. I mean, it was just, it was all people. So I said, how many people have been killed? Because I knew there were other shots being fired. And they said, we don't know yet,

but some people have been badly hurt. And I haven't to give the secret service sniper, they call them, or a sharpshooter, but sniper because he didn't know there was a problem. He's been, he's an extraordinary shot, obviously, and he didn't know there was a problem. And he was able to pick and roll out within five seconds. And he used one bullet from very far away, I guess, probably about 400 yards. The shooter was 130, but he was on the opposite side of the field and the podium. And he saw the smoke and the flame from the gun, immediately recognized it, and immediately took a shot.

And it was one perfect shot from very far away. And if he didn't do that, Elon, he would have, I mean, if he would have, a lot of people, a lot more people have been, could have been badly hurt and killed. So I have to take my hat off to him. Because that's also a surreal, you know, he's been with them for 23 years. and he's never had anything like this and all of a sudden he has to act and it's a very tough thing to act and to be shooting somebody

but he saw the he saw the gun, saw the smoke, saw the flame from the gun very far away obviously has very good eyes he's got very good vision which I assume you have to have in that particular work

but he took aim very quickly and it was they say it was approximately five seconds from long range one bullet if that didn't happen because the shooter had a lot of bullets. He had a lot of cartridges up there with him. So I mean, I mean, that's clearly, you know, he was, he was very competent in taking that shot to stop the attempted assassination. But, I mean, that does seem to be, I mean, some pretty significant failings elsewhere in the system.

Like, there's just no way that, like, how on earth does a shooter get? on a roof 130 yards away. That seems crazy. I think most people are wondering how that on earth could such a thing happen. Well, you know, I view it as two ways. There should have been nobody in the roof. There were people, because there were so many tens of thousands of people there,

there were people that were seeing him. And there was one woman with a red shirt and Trump all over it. And she's screaming, that guy's got a gun. You know, you saw it probably. Yeah, yeah. There's a guy up there with a gun. It's like I'm just, I guess, I mean, for my part,

and I think probably many members of the public are wondering how the heck are, you know, basically people wondering by, pointing out there's a guy on the roof with a gun. Yeah. They're seeing it, but somehow it's not being addressed. That just seemed crazy. Well, they're going to learn from this.

The communication. between the local police who sort of had an idea and then ultimately a man lifted himself up to the roof could barely do it because he was pulling himself up and he saw the man with the gun

the man with the gun pointed the gun at him he thought he was probably going to get shot but you know he was like pulling himself up and because of that he couldn't get to his gun and he fell down actually very badly hurt his leg

his ankle, I hear very badly, but he fell down. And he did, you know, from what I understand, he did say there's a guy up there with a gun. And the shooting started very quickly after that. I think it forced the shooter to go maybe quicker. You know, you're supposed to be a very good shot. My sons, Don and Eric, they can't believe what happened. But they said from 130 yards,

a bad shot would hit that target. almost every time. They said it's like in golf, sinking a two-foot putt. Yeah, it's not a tough shot. No, it's not a long shot. The Secret Service person had the long shot. He had to, you know, triple the distance, actually.

So, you know, it was a terrible thing. Look, it's hard. I have to say this about the Secret Service. When I went down, and, you know, I went down based on, I think they're screaming. but other people also because people saw this happen. You know, you had so many people.

One of the miracles was that nobody ran. I mean, if a gun goes off, the crowd control people showed us this. When guns go off, and it does happen in stadiums and a soccer match or some kind of a match, everybody flees. They call it a stampede like cattle, but everybody, and a lot of people get killed with those stampedes. We had more people than you'd have at, you know,

some of these matches or these games and nobody left. You know, you had a small group behind us in the grandstand, and that was full, and you look at it as it was taking place. And normally they'd be running. They didn't leave. They saw that I was hurt. They saw a lot of blood, and they saw that I went down,

and it's almost like they wanted to be with me. Well, out front, you had thousands, tens of thousands of people. As far as the eye could see, you had people in Butler, as far as the eye could see. And a lot of press, too. It was, you know, many cameras on watching this. It's what makes it so different because normally things happen that aren't good, but you never have a picture of it.

Here we have all these cameras shooting it. So, you know, sort of amazing. But one of the interesting things was that you didn't have anybody flee. You didn't have anybody stampede. Sure. Nobody. And there were some people behind me. They stood up and they're looking like, you know, I mean, I'll tell you want to have,

you want to have them in a foxhole. with you. I want to meet some of those people. Because it's so different from what you heard. But so I was down. But the Secret Service guys, there were bullets flying right over my head. You could hear him go whizzing. And these guys came

jumping on top of me and a young lady, Kate, would jump. They moved so fast. And let me tell you, that took tremendous courage. Now, there was a lack of coordination. There was, you know, obviously everybody

understands that somebody that building should have been covered. Yeah. I mean, I think that's like, I mean, looking at the aerial views, that building would be like the number one spot for a sniper. It's like if you were to pick like what is the favorite police? So if the goal is to assassinate, what's your favorite spot that building? You're right. That would have been this one.

It's like you couldn't, you can ask for a better location. It's like, no one. That would have been this. You know what people think is when the local policeman, who by the way, He really, he did what he was supposed to do. He couldn't hold on any longer. And then when he got his head just peeking above, this guy standing there with a gun at his head.

And when he fell down, again, hurt his ankle very badly, but he was making the calls. But what happened is the firing took place very soon. So what they think is that this guy ran to his site, which he had all planned out with the gun. He ran to the site, and he started shooting fast. And maybe that's why he, well, he sort of missed. I mean, you know, he got me, but it could have been, it could have been a much bigger problem.

But he totally would have hit if you hadn't turned your head. So, like, you know, there was a, it was a very near thing. It was a miracle. If I hadn't turned my head, I would not be talking to you right now. As much as I like you. Exactly. I would not. Yeah.

I would not be talking to me from another realm. Yeah, that's right. We'd be talking from a different place. But it was a, you know, it was a very terrible experience. The Butler Hospital, they did such a great job. The doctors were so good. Everybody was so good. There was, there was a mistake if somebody knew, because people were hearing, you know, there was just a bad feeling that there was somebody was around. You know that story. Now it's been. And if somebody could have said, because they've oftentimes said, you know, like there'd be a lightning storm or something, because I've done, I think, over 300. I think I did a lot more than that, but we did a lot.

And oftentimes they'll say, sir, could you wait 10 minutes, please? Sir, could you wait 20 minutes? There's a storm overhead or lightning or something, right? And that happens often. And this would have been a perfect time for that to have happened, but it didn't get coordinated. That was the problem. Well, it was, I think your actions in the heat of,

fire in you know like what i find admirable there was that you can't fake bravery under such circumstances the courage is instinctual or it is not it's not a rehearsed action and so i just want to say that i think a lot of people admire your your your courage under fire there and yeah so thank you very much i appreciate it i didn't i don't think i didn't think of it i just wanted to get up and i want to stand up i want to let people know you know i felt i was good when when they were on top of me covering me actually, very much covering me and very bravely. But I wanted to get up. I said, I want to get up. And they wanted, you know, they have everything there. They have, they wanted stretcher. I didn't like the stretcher. And I knew I was hit in the year, but I knew I wasn't hit anywhere else.

They felt I was hit someplace else because it was such a lot of blood. And they were sure that I was hit someplace else. And they were saying, sir, you were hitting more than the year. I said, nope, I was hit in the ear. I want to get up. Let me get up. And so I got up and the crowd didn't know what to think. I mean, this was so, so many people and you could see they were confused. They didn't know what to think. And I wanted to let them know I was okay. It was very important for me to let them know that. And they went wild. You've seen the after, they didn't go wild when I got up because they didn't know was they alive. You really couldn't tell. When I stood up before the hand, before the, you know, the fist in the air,

they didn't know if I was alive. Nobody did. And when I put the fist up, they were, they were just relieved and happy and thrilled. And the place went crazy. It was pretty amazing. It was a terrible thing, but it was incredibly moving. Well, and I mean, speaking of the sort of slide that, got you to turn that saved your life, really.

Where's the illegal immigration slide? Maybe this is worth talking about that. It was, that slide says saved your life. You're right. No, the illegal immigration saved my life. You're right, but it would be at the exact angle. I mean, that's a great one. Saved by illegal immigration.

You know, the incredible thing, though, when you talk about the odds, you had to be exactly at that angle. But the incredible thing is that the chart, I used it less than 20% of the time. It was just a moment. It's always on my left, never my right. And it's always at the end of the speech. So here we have it. It's on the right, not the left.

It's at the beginning, not the end. And even the people that put it up, they were unprepared. And they did a great job. They got it up immediately, fortunately. But I looked to the right and the bullet came whizzing by hitting my. year. So it was amazing. But when you think of the odds of that, and, you know, that normally you wouldn't use it. Normally, I wouldn't have the thing. And then, you know, it would have been a very different story. It's very much, I say an act of God. It's a miracle that it happened. And I'm

honored by it. I'm honored by it. Well, what, what were you about to say about illegal immigration before you were rudely interrupted. Well, I was going to say how good the numbers were. By the way, we're going back to Butler, and we're going to go back in October. We're all set up, and the people are fantastic in Butler. It's a big, it's a great area. These are incredible people.

Like the three that, in the case of Corey killed and the other two, the families are, I get to know them a little bit, and families are great. But we're going back to Butler, and I think I'll probably start by saying, As I was saying, prior to being so horribly interrupted. Yeah, so rudely interrupted by an assassination attempt. No, but the chart.

Some people have no matter. Elon, the chart was just a chart that in my last week, we had the best illegal immigration numbers, meaning stopping. It was at the lowest. You've seen the chart. It's become quite a famous chart. But that was the lowest point ever recorded. it was a really, I mean, I was very proud of those numbers. And then you see what happened with these people.

Kamala and Joe, you see what happened. They just let it go. I had remain in Mexico policies. I had all these different policies that was so good. Guys like Tom Holman and Brandon Judd from Border Patrol, these are all people that they've been on television. They said the best numbers we've ever had, we had so many different checks,

release in Mexico, not the United We had catch and release in the United States. We had it in Mexico. We had so many things. We had things where if people, many people come in there, they have contagious diseases. We had everything passed. If you have a contagious disease, I'm sorry,

but we cannot allow you into the country. So we were setting literally records and all I was doing is showing that. And I used it sometimes. And in this case, I'm glad I used it. I can tell you that. But there were fantastic numbers.

But I'm going to sleep with that chart always. I'll be sleeping with that chart. That chart was very important, very important, for a lot of reasons. Well, I mean, would it be accurate to say that you're supportive of legal immigration, but that we obviously need to shut down illegal immigration and especially unvetted illegal immigration because you, you know, and that's not the same as saying that our, everyone who's an illegal immigrant is bad. In fact, I think most people who are illegal immigrants are actually good, but you can't tell a difference unless there's a solid betting of who comes

across the border. Does that, does that actually represent your position? I say it very simply. They have to come in legally. They have to be checked. Because look, Kamala was the border zone. Now she's denying it. Everything that I do, she's saying she was strong on the border. We're going to be strong. Well, she doesn't have to say it. She could close it up right now. They could do things right now. It's horrible. No tax on tips. And all of a sudden, she's making a speech. And there will be no tax on tips. I said that months ago. And by the way, they had just the opposite. You know, they had not only tax on tips, but they hired 88,000 IRS agents. And many of them were assigned to go get waitresses and caddies and all of this on tips. They have a policy. They had a policy that

They were really going to go after you and we're really harassing people horribly. And then all of a sudden, for politics, she says, you know, she comes out with what I said, which I think is terrible. And I think it's also hitting them very hard. These people are fake. Now they're also saying they did a good job in the border. We had the worst numbers than the history of the world, not of our country. There's never been a country in history that has had a catastrophe like this.

We've had, I believe, and I think you believe this too, you know, you hear 12 million, 13. I believe it's over 20 million people came into our country. Many coming from jails, from prisons, from mental institutions, or a bigger version of that is insane asylums. And many are terrorists. And I'll tell you what, they're coming not just from South America. They're coming from Africa. They're coming from all over the world.

They're coming from Asia. They're coming from the Middle East. They're coming from countries that are stupidly and horribly bombing Israel, October 7th. They're coming from all over the world. And you know, you look at, it's so sad October 7th, because it should have never happened. It's so sad when you look at Ukraine. It should have never happened. We have a defective government. These are defective people, and they're not people that should be running it. But where you see it the best is the border, because you have millions of people coming in a month. And then she gets up and she tries to pretend like

she's going to do something. She had three and a half years. And by the way, they have another five months that they can do something, but they won't do anything. It's all talk. She's incompetent and he's incompetent. And frankly, I think that she's more incompetent

than he is, and that's saying something because he's not too good. Yeah. No, I think it is essential to have a secure border. I mean, you're really not a country unless you have a secure border. And secure election. Absolutely secure elections.

And so it's just essential to have a real border or we can't function as a country. And our service, you know, our central services are being overwhelmed in a lot of cities. And but I, as we were talking about earlier, I think having a legal immigration process that is smooth and efficient and done well. and I'm speaking as someone who is a legal immigrant. And I think that that, I mean, like one way to think of it is who do you want on your team? You know, who do you want on Team America? And I think we want to just say, okay, we want to let in people who are going to, you know, be great contributors to our society and to our economy and, you know, and who do you want on the team? And it's not to say that, like in my opinion, actually, I'd say like probably most of the illegal immigrants actually are actually good, hardworking people.

That's my opinion. But some are not. And you just have this sort of adverse selection process where, you know, if somebody's, you know, if somebody is like, you know, has a career in, in theft or robbery. I don't understand what's taking them so long to get here because we're at such a target-rich environment. I mean, you know, why aren't more people who have a career in, you know, bad things coming here sooner because it's, I mean, it's a piece of cake to go rob, you know, houses in L.A. or

New York compared to other parts of the world. and in a lot of places in America, if you try to stop the person who's robbing you, you'll be arrested. It's right. I mean, what's happening with crime and our police are so good, but they're not allowed to do their job. But I have to tell you, Elon, I hate to say it, because it's such a downer to say it.

I hate to say it. I hate it, but you have a lot of people that just shouldn't be. I think it's a much bigger number than you think. They're allowing you. Again, they're allowing people from their jails. And if you were running one of these countries where they're coming from, you would have had all of them. As an example, Venezuela, their crime is down 72%. They're taking their drug dealers.

They're taking, frankly, their prisoners. They're emptying out their prisons. They're taking their criminals, their murderers, their rapists, and they're delivering them into the... That's what Castro did. Yeah, well, they did. On a much smaller scale, you know, is a much smaller scale. but this is a massive scale because this is being done worldwide. But here's what's happening.

Crime all over the world is down. And wait until you see the numbers that we have, you know, this is migrant crime. This is crime that's going to be. And I saw it today in New York where somebody was knifed, where they raped the girlfriend of a man that stood there watching. And by the way, I just want to ask, I wonder if Elon or Trump will talk about UK, especially after the letter that the EU, the EU. and all that sent them earlier. Telling them, if you come back, we're going to kill you. We're going to give you the death penalty or kill you,

so they don't want to come back. But these are rough people. These are criminals that make our criminals look like nice people, and it's horrible what they're doing. And she's in charge of it because, you know, now she's trying to say she had nothing to do with it. And she's such a liar because she was called the Bordersar the first day, and it was on the headlines of every newspaper.

She's the Borders there. And she never even went there. She went to one location which had nothing to do with where the problem is. You know, she went in and out, I guess, because she was getting a lot of pressure. Had nothing to do with the problem. But she was the border. And people can't allow them to get away with their disinformation campaign. Now she's trying to say that she wasn't really involved.

The whole thing is horrible. She was totally in charge. She could have shut the border down without him. He didn't know what he was doing anyways. He wouldn't have even known what happened. You could shut the border down. He wouldn't even know the difference. But the fact is that she was borders are.

But you don't have to call her that. The fact is you could just call her. She was in charge of the border. And the border was the worst ever. It's simply not working. No, it's horrible. Whether it's by, whether it's a question of intention or competence, either way, we don't have a secure border.

and we have people streaming over like it looks like a World War Z zombie apocalypse at times. And, you know, sometimes you've got to sort of wonder, like, is it real or not? So I, you know, because you see things here, like, is it real? I saw I went to the border at Eagle Pass, and I saw myself in Texas. And I was like, okay, it's real. I'm like seeing this in real time. I actually posted the video like just live. I just flew there one day and just to see, hey, is this made up or real?

and I'm just seeing people stream across the border. And I have to say, you know, at least the people I saw did not look friendly, you know. These are people. People can look at my video and say, hey, you know, these people look friendly. I don't look super friendly. These are people that Elon would not be the same man

if he had to walk across the street and look these people in the eye. These are rough people. These are really rough people coming across. And I know rough people. And these are people that we don't want in our country. And, you know, the caravans are coming in and they're putting and who's doing this as the heads of the

countries and you would be doing it and so would I and everyone would say oh what a terrible thing to say the fact is it's brilliant for them because they're taking all of their bad people really bad people and I hate to say this the reason the numbers are much bigger than you would think is they're also taking their nonproductive people now these aren't people that will kill you we have enough of them, but these are people that are non-productive. They are just not productive. I mean, for whatever reason, they're not workers, or they don't want to work, or whatever. And these countries are getting rid of non-productive people in the caravans, in many cases,

and they're also getting rid of their murderers and their drug dealers and the people that are really brutal people. And they're coming into our country at levels that have never been seen before. and I saw an ad just before I got on the air, I'm walking over here, and I saw an ad by Kamala saying how she is going to provide border security. Where has she been for three and a half years? For three and a half years. Yeah, no, no. We have 20 million people.

It's terrible. Yeah, I think this, frankly, I think this is a fundamental existential issue for the United States. And if we have another four more years of open borders, and it's going to be even, worth, with another four more years, it's going to be even worse than it's been for the past, you know, three and a half years. I'm not sure we've got a country. You don't have a country, Elon, if they get in, you will have 50 to 60 million people from all over the world, not South America only. You know, we think of South America, we think of Honduras and El Salvador, Guatemala, and Mexico, you know, the four, but it's not that it's everywhere. They're coming in

from everywhere. And I had to stay in Mexico. This is a super important point. Like people, it's like, basically, when I went down there, I was like, well, where are people from? It's like, it's like almost no one was from Mexico. No, Mexico less. It's just the border.

It's just the border with Mexico. But the people coming in, it's, it's earth, the rest of earth. And America is only, you know, about four, four or five percent of the population of earth. It would only take a few percent of the rest of Earth to overwhelm everything. We're already overwhelmed, Elon. We're overwhelmed. You had to see the news tonight about New York.

New York, and I love that place, and what they're doing to it is horrible, what they're doing to it. And all the courts do is they try and focus on Trump. Okay, let's focus on Trump, who did nothing wrong. I complain about her rigged election. Elon, what's happened is unbelievable. You have from Africa, from the Congo they're coming, from the Congo. And 22 people came in from the Congo recently. they're murderers, and they drop them.

They drop them. They take them out of jails, which is very expensive, you know, to maintain the jails, although they don't do too much maintaining, I can tell you. But they take them out of jails, prisons, they take them out, and they bring them to the United States. They deposit them in the United States and say, don't ever come back or you're going to be executed, and they don't want to come back. But they won't come back. Sure.

But they're coming from Africa. They're coming from Asia. They're coming from the Middle East. They're coming from South America. They're coming from everywhere, basically. And there are a lot of really bad ones. It's just an everywhere on earth thing. And it's just not possible for the United States to absorb, you know,

everyone from Earth or, you know, even a few percent of the rest of Earth. It's just not possible. Well, Elon, we're going to have, just to finish this up, we're going to have the largest deportation in history of this country. And we have no choice. Otherwise, we're going to have a country, what they've done to our country. Think of it with, you know, in Venezuela and in some of these other countries, crime is down 50, 60, 70, 80%. And you would be the same.

You would have, you would have. I'll tell you what, Venezuela has not gotten rid of all of them. They've gotten rid of about 70% of their really bad people. Their jails are about 50% put into the United States. Same with other countries. Some are 30%, some are at 50%. They're all different. But the bottom line is they're all going to be in 100%.

Why wouldn't you put 100% of it? And they're doing it right now while this third-rate phony candidate, don't forget, I beat Biden. He failed in the debate miserably. And, you know, some people said, oh, gee, it's too bad. It's too bad he did so badly. Or I did well in the debate. You know, the first night they said, wow, one of the people at CNN said, that was the greatest debate performance I've ever witnessed. And then two days later, they didn't talk about that.

they just said he was bad. But that's okay. That's the way I get treated, and I don't mind that at all. What I can tell you is this. We cannot have a Democrat. We cannot have her. She's incompetent.

She's as bad as Biden in a different... Look, she hasn't done an interview since this whole scam started. And say what you want. This was a coup. This was a coup of a president of the United States. He didn't want to leave, and they said we can do it the nice way or we can do it the hard way.

Yeah, I mean, they're just talking about back. behind the shed and basically shot him. Oh, what they did with this guy, and I'm no fan of his, and he was a horrible president, the worst president in history. And one of the reasons he was so bad, first of all, the Israeli attack would have never happened, Russia would never have attacked Ukraine, and we'd have no inflation. And we wouldn't have had the Afghanistan mess, if you think of it, and we wouldn't have had Afghanistan.

But you think of it, you take a few of those events away, and we have a different world. We would also have no... Inflation was caused by oil. Yeah. No, I think you make an excellent point here, which is that when other countries are thinking about invading or doing bad things, when they're thinking about that, they're thinking about, okay, what's the American president going to do? And do they fear the American president?

Or is there someone they do not respect and do not fear? And I think they do, they would, they have to rightfully be. I mean, you know, look at the footage with the assassination. They're like, okay, you know, President Trump is, like, don't mess with me. I mean, that's like, whereas I think people are not going to be, and they obviously have not been at all intimidated by Biden, and they certainly will not be intimidated by Kamala. And you have to really think about it in the context of global security, that's, that if the American president is someone, someone that, like evil dictators are scared of, that makes a huge difference to the security of the world.

So I had a good relationship with Putin, despite the Russia, Russia, Russia, hoax that lasted for over two years, just a hoax created by Hillary Clinton and Adam Schifty Schiff, some just bad people, you know, just sick people, frankly. I mean, Schiff is a sick person. He's going to end up probably being a senator. It's hard to believe. The whole thing is hard to believe. But, you know, they put our country in danger with that.

stuff, too. They actually, when they make up stories and you have to fight your way out of it for a long time. But I know Putin very well, I got along with him very well. He respected me and it's just one of those things. And we would talk a lot about Ukraine. It was the apple of his eye. But I said, don't ever do it. Don't ever do it. You know, I shut down Nord Stream too. That was the big oil pipeline, the biggest, I think a biggest pipeline in the world going all over Europe. I shut it down. Biden came. And then they say, you know, I was, I loved Russia. I was. a friend of Putin and I loved Russia. No. He actually said to me one time, he said, if you're my friend, I'd hate to see you as an enemy. I shut down his pipeline. The biggest

pipeline, they were looking at that to fund. And this pathetic president gets in there. And the first thing he did, one of the early things he did is he shut down, he shut down Keystone XL pipeline, which is our pipeline, that would have employed 48,000 people, pipeline workers, shuts it down. That was, you know, a massive job that Obama refused to allow. I allowed it in my first week because it was jobs and it moved oil. And by the way, in a much more environmentally friendly way, it's underground. It's not a truck that catches on fire or a train that catches on fire. But think of it. He shut down the XL pipeline, the Keystone XL pipeline. He shuts that down and he approves the Russian pipeline.

Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. It's like it's inconsistent. Certainly. But I mean, I think it's just worth emphasizing to listeners the immense importance of whether the United States president is intimidating or not intimidating and how much that matters to global security because there's some real tough characters out there.

And if they don't think the American president, is tough, they will do what they want to do. I know every one of them. And that puts the whole world in danger. Elon, I know every one of them, and I know him well. I know Putin. I know President Xi. I know Kim Jong-un of North Korea.

I know every one of them. And let me tell you, people will say, oh, this is terrible. He said, I'm not saying anything good or bad. They're at the top of their game. They're tough. They're smart. They're vicious. And they're going to protect their country.

Whether they love their country, they probably do. It's just a different form of love. But they're going to protect their country. but these are tough people at the top of their game. And when they see a Kamala or when they see Biden, Sleepy Joe, they can't even believe it. They can't believe this happened. All the stuff that you're seeing now, all the horror that you're,

look at Israel, they're all waiting for an attack from Iran. Iran would not be attacking, believe me. You know, when I was there, and I say it with respect, because I think we would have been good with Iran. I don't want to do anything bad to Iran, but they knew not to mess around. Iran was broke because I told China, if you buy from Iran oil, it's all about the oil. That's where the money is.

But if you buy oil from Iran, you're not going to do any business with the United States. And I meant it. And they said, we'll pass. They didn't buy oil. Other countries, likewise, you want to buy, you're not doing business with the United States. And they were at a point where they had no money for Hamas, they had no money for Hezbollah, They had no money for any of these instruments of terror. And it was amazing.

In fact, there were articles when I was leaving, which is hard to believe, actually, especially when you look at what's happened to our country. Our country is so bad right now. It's such a different place. We were respected. Think of it. Four years ago, we were so respected to a point where, when I said, don't buy oil, they didn't buy oil.

But they had no money. And Israel would have never been attacked. It is zero chance. And again, I said to Vladimir Putin, I said, don't do it. You can't do it, Vladimir, you do it. It's going to be a bad day. You cannot do it. And I told him things that what I do, and he said, no way.

And I said, way. And you know, it's the last time we ever had the conversation. He would never have done it. I got along well with him. I hope to get along well with them again. You know, getting along well with them is a good thing, not a bad thing. I got along well with John Lund. when I met with President Obama

just before entering, you know, it's sort of a ritual, and I sat down with him and we talked who was supposed to be for a very short period of time and turned out to be a long period of time. I said, what's the biggest problem? He said, North Korea. I had that problem worked out very quickly.

It was nasty at the beginning with Rocket Man and, you know, all the different things. All of a sudden I got a call. Those were some epic tweets, by the way. Yeah, no, they were epic everything. He said that he has a red button on his desk. I said, I have a red button on my desk too, but my red button is much bigger,

and my red button works. And then I called him Little Rocket Man of Little Rocket Man. Anyway, here's the bottom line. All of a sudden, I got a call from him, and they said, they want to meet. They want to meet me. And we met, as you remember, we met in Singapore. We met also in Vietnam. And I got along with him great. We were in no danger. But President Obama, President Obama thought we were going to end up in a war, a nuclear war with him. And let me tell you, he's got a lot of nuclear stuff too. He's got plenty of nuclear. He can do plenty of damage.

Yes, I mean, it's because, you know, people like Kim Jong-on, they respond to strength, not weakness. Well, he and I got a, he and I had a good relationship. Remember I met him and we walked onto his land. Nobody ever walked onto his land before. I walked on to his land before. I wouldn't say, let's bring up Secret Service again, I wouldn't say they were thrilled when I did that. I walked onto his land.

And it was an amazing period. But we were not in danger with him because of me. You know, I always say that we have enemies on the outside or we have enemies on the inside. We have some really bad people in our government and people that are, and controlling of the people. I mean, I'd mention names, but I really don't want to give them the credit. but we have some really bad, and I say they're more dangerous than Russia and China.

If you have a smart president, a president that gets it, we are not in danger from those countries because they need us and they need our help. I mean, we forced Obama, if you think about it, Obama and Biden and Bush to a certain extent, in all fairness, forced Russia and China together. And if you're a history student, the first thing you learn is you cannot let Russia. Russia and China aligned. But then they also got, if you take a look, Iran, and they have North Korea. That's, you know, they caught the access of evil in the old days.

You had the access of evil. Here we have a modern day access of evil. These are powerful countries, very heavy nuclear, which is the biggest threat. You know, the biggest threat, it's not global warming, where the ocean's going to rise one eighth of an inch over the next 400 years. The big, and you'll have more ocean front property, right? The biggest threat is not that. The biggest threat is nuclear warming because we have five countries now that have significant

nuclear power. And we have to not allow anything to happen with stupid people like Biden. You know, Biden did something with Russia. There was no chance of him ever going in. And when I left, and then after I left, they started forming big armies on the border with Ukraine, right? And I looked at that, and I thought he was doing that because Putin's a good negotiator. I thought he was doing that to negotiate. But then Biden started saying such stupid things.

For instance, he said that it can be a NATO country. Now, Russia, for as long as there's been NATO, has said, we're never going to agree to that. And we go right up front and say that. And we did things and said things through this president with a low IQ, very low IQ. he had a low IQ 30 years ago, by the way, but now he might not even have a IQ at all. There is nothing on the board that goes as long. He said things that were so stupid

that war would have been, that war had zero chance of happening if I were there, zero chance. He was saying everything the opposite, everything the opposite. And it's so sad, because many more people have been killed in Ukraine than you read about,

you don't read about how bloody it is. is that out desert. Hey, look, just in the two armies, you lost a half a million people. And, you know, Ukraine's having a hard time. Ukraine, I don't know if you saw the article recently, and it's true, you don't hear the true story. But if you think about it, Russia's gone, you know, Russia defeated Germany with us, and they defeated Napoleon. You know, they've been around a long time. They're a big fighting force.

And it's very unfair. And Ukraine now doesn't have enough men. they're now using young men and very old men to fight. And we're in a very bad position. And I'm not going to blame exclusively, but I can tell you I could have stopped that. And a smart president could have stopped that. It wouldn't have happened.

But we had a man that actually made it more prevalent. It was so bad. The words that he was using, the stupid threats coming from a stupid face that he was using, I said, this guy's going to cause this a war. He's going to cause this. And let me tell you, it can lead to World War III. That can lead to World War III.

The Middle East can lead to... We have numerous places that could end up in World War III right now for no reason whatsoever. I think you're right. I think people underrate the risk of World War III. And it's just... You know, when looking at the risk of global thermonuclear warfare, it's game over for humanity.

And, you know, that's something that people have... I think after the end of the Cold War, people have become complacent about, but they actually have forgotten that there are currently a lot of nuclear missiles that have targeting parameters for the United States from other countries. And one of the things we're going to do is we're going to build an iron dome over us. You know, Israel has it. We're going to have the best iron dome in the world. We need it.

And we're going to make it all in the United States. But we're going to have protection because it just takes one maniac to, you know, start something. We're going to have protection. And we're going to have, why shouldn't we have an iron dome? Israel has one. Some other places have one that nobody even knows about, frankly. But Israel has it. We're going to have an iron dome.

But, you know, with all of that being said, to me, that's so important, the most important. But with all of that being said, the elections coming up and the people want to hear about the economy and the fact that they can't buy groceries because they don't have enough money to buy groceries, the inflation has killed them. Food prices are up 50, 60, even. 100% in some cases. And this stupid administration allowed this to happen. And it's a shame.

And that's the thing that people most care about, in my opinion. They care about the border a lot. And we discuss the border at great length. It's nice to have a forum like this where I can discuss something at length. And by the way, you think Biden could do this interview? Do you think that Kamala could do this interview? They would take a pass on you. No, they could not.

So they don't need Elon. They don't need Elon screaming out questions. It's pretty sad when you think that somebody that does this for a living can't answer a question or is afraid to do an interview. And in her case, with a very friendly interview. She's got all friendly interviewers. It's pretty good. But the big thing now is the economy, Elon. And as much as, I mean, I view nuclear is the single most important thing.

But a lot of people don't understand that. But it doesn't have to. If I understand that that's all you need because if I was president, you're not going to have that kind of a problem. But the thing that they really is making them angry is what Kamala and Biden have allowed to happen to the economy. It's a disaster with inflation. The inflation, it doesn't matter what you make. The inflation is eating you alive. If you're a worker or if you're a just a middle income person, you can't afford.

You know, four years ago, five years ago, people were saving a lot of money. Today, they use all their money and borrowing. money just to live. It's a horrible thing that's happening. And we'll end that quickly. Yeah, a lot of people just don't understand where inflation comes from. Inflation comes from government overspending because the checks never bounce when it's written by the government. So if the government spends far more than it brings in, that increases the money supply. And if the money supply increases faster than the rate of goods and services, that's inflation. So really we need to have, we need to reduce our government spending and we need to re-examine.

I think we need like a government efficiency commission to say like, hey, where are we spending money that's sensible? Where is it not sensible? And we need to live within our means. We're currently adding, I think, a trillion dollars to the deficit every roughly every hundred days. And the interest payments on the national debt. have now exceed the defense budget. It's on the order of a trillion dollars. It's interest.

And it keeps growing. I rebuilt our military, largely rebuilt our military. Did a great job on it, which was so important. You know, we had jets, we had fighters that were, and bombers that were 70 years old. We did a great job. And then we, by the way, then we gave $85 billion of it back to Afghanistan, if you can believe it. We gave them $85 billion. You know, they're one of the largest sellers of military equipment in the world.

They're selling what we gave them. That was one of the most embarrassing days in the history of our country. But if you think about, let's go back to the economy, we have to bring energy prices down. Energy started it, the price of gasoline. Now, your cars don't require too much gasoline. So, you know, you have a good, and you do make a great product, I have to say. I have to be honest with it. That doesn't mean everybody should have an electric car, but these are minor details.

But your product is incredible. But the gasoline, Elon, is the cost of energy. Not only gasoline, it's the cost of heating your house and cooling your house. That has to come down. It's gone up 100%, 150, and 200 percent, and that has to come down. When that comes down and we're going to drill baby drill, you know, they stopped drilling and then they went back to drilling because they went back to the Trump policy. but if they won the day after they get into office,

this country will go out of business because they're going to go to an energy policy that's not sustainable. Wind and different things, you're not going to have anything. And I know you're a big fan of the AI, and I have to say that AI, and this is shocking to me,

but AI requires twice the energy that the country already produces for everything. So we're going to have to build, we're going to have to build a lot of energy if our country will be competitive with China, because that's our primary competitor for this on the AI. You're going to need a lot of electricity. You're going to need tremendous electricity, like almost double what we produce now for the whole country, if you can believe it.

Sure. Well, just going back to this, like this basic thing, which is that people try to make it sound complicated, but inflation is caused by government overspending. would you agree that we need to take a look at government spending and have perhaps a government efficiency commission that just tries to make the spending sensible and so the country lives within its means, just like a person does?

The waste is incredible and nobody negotiates prices. You used to have a lot of people making jets and you end up with two companies and they'll probably try and merge at some point. I mean, I went through it. Like Air Force One, just a thing like Air Force One, one of the first documents they asked me to sign a general officer. And sir, would you please sign this document? What is it?

Air Force One, that's with Boeing, which is basically two planes, two seven-forteons. And the price was $5.7 billion for two planes. Now, they're highly sophisticated. That's insane. They're even nicer than your plane, okay? But much more sophisticated. They're very, I won't say what's on it, but they got a lot of stuff on it. Anyway, but it's 5.7.

And that's a crazy number. But I said, I'm not going to pay 5.7. I'm not going to do it. I said, who made the deal? Obama and his people. I said, well, then I know the deal's no good. I'm not going to do it. And over the course of about four weeks, by my saying I'm not going to do it,

I got the price reduced by $1.6 billion for the exact same plane, other than we had a nicer paint job, if you want to know that two. But for the exact same plane, I got, I saved one. And I said to Boeing, man, you guys must make a lot. lot of money if you can reduce the price by that. But now what I do here is that they're going back to the Biden administration and wanting big cost overruns, you know, because they see these dopey suckers in there, and they'll end up getting some of the money back. But I shaved it by $1.6 billion for the exact same plan. And you can now take that and multiply that outtimes,

thousands of other items. Multiply it by a billion. Yeah, the numbers are astronomical. I agree with you. Well, I mean, I think it would be great to just have a government efficiency commission that takes a look at these things and just ensures that the taxpayer money, to the taxpayers, hard-earned money is spent in a good way. And I'd be happy to help out on such a commission if it were full. Well, you, you're the greatest cutter. I mean, I look at what you do. You walk in and you just say, you want to quit? They go, it's like, I won't.

mention the name of the company, but they go on strike and you say, that's okay, you're all gone. You're all gone. So every one of you is gone. And you are the greatest. You would be very good. Oh, you would love it. But, you know, if you look at Arjun... Well, I'd be happy to help out. By the way, congratulations. I just looked at the number of people that are listening to you and I chat. We'll call it a chat. But congratulations. This is very good. I mean, it's great. And you're an interesting character. You know, the new head of a place called Ardollinger. Argentina, and he's a big, you know, he's great.

And he's a big MAGA fan, you know, that he ran on MAGA. And he took it to an extreme, too. He ran on MAGA, and I hear he's doing really a terrific job. It's called Make Argentina Great again. It worked out perfectly. He came and they bought a lot of hats. He brought over it. But he's doing a big job.

He really cut. And I'm hearing, you're starting to do pretty well, inflation's getting down. You know, they had like 2,000 percent. They had inflation like, like not normal inflation. They had the real deal. But we're going to have that pretty soon.

We have, I think we have the worst inflation we've had in 100 years. They say it's 48 years. I don't believe it. I think we have the worst. They don't include a lot of the items that should be included, you know. Yeah. Well, it's, it's just from government overspending and not, just not spending taxpayer money effectively.

And having, you know, just departments, like so many departments, You can't even name them all. And what Malay is doing is, you know, he's cutting, govern spending, he's simplifying things. He's putting in regulations that make sense. And Argentina overnight is experiencing a giant improvement in prosperity. But it's also a lesson for the United States, which is that Argentina used to be one of the most prosperous countries in the world. You know, in the, I think in the 30s, 40s. And because of bad government policy, it ruined the country.

And if take Venezuela, for example, Venezuela should be incredibly prosperous. They have, you know, phenomenal reserves of everything, oil, everything. And it should be prosperous, but if the government's wrong, it impoverishes the people. And so I think we should not be complacent in the United States in thinking that and taking out prosperity for granted, because with bad government policy, we can run the country into the ground. And that's just something people should bear in mind. Don't take prosperity for granted. Well, think of education. So we're ranked at the bottom of every list of the top 40. We're ranked number 40, number 38, Norway, Switzerland, Sweden, different countries are ranked

good. Actually, China's pretty close to the top. They're at top six or seven. But we're ranked at the bottom, almost at the bottom, 38, 39, 40. In other words, horrible. And yet we spend more per pupil than any other country in the world. So we spend more. And what I'm going to do, one of the first acts, and this is where I need an Elon Musk. I need somebody that has a lot of strength and courage and smarts. I want to close up Department of Education, move education back to the states where states like Iowa, where states like Idaho, you know, not every state will do great because states that basically aren't doing good now you look at Gavin Newscombe the governor of California he he's terrible he does a terrible job so he's not going to do great with education

but of the 50 I would bet that 35 would do great and 15 of them or you know 20 of them will be as good as Norway you know Norway's considered great you can name them I mean just they're so Some of these countries are so good. But if you go into some of these really well-run states, you know, we have states that don't know what debt is. We have states that have low taxes, no debt, everybody work. You know, they're really well-run. And maybe they have certain advantages in terms of location, in terms of, you know,

the land or the sun and the water and the whole thing. You know, there are a lot of advantages that some people are. But if you moved education back to the 50, you'll have some that won't do well. but they'll actually be forced to do better because it'll be a pretty bad situation. But if you think about it, you'll have some of these states. I'll bet you'd have 30, 35 states. It'll be much better.

And you know what? It'll cost less than half what it is in Washington. And these people don't care about students in these faraway states. And it would be unbelievable. Yeah. I think you're making a good point in that If the states have to have to, if each individual, if each state has to compete against other states,

then people will naturally move to states where it's better. Well, like California, you know, as we said, it's a badly run state. I could go through, I got so many friends that are in those states, even if they're Democrats, I hate to mention certain states, but Illinois's badly run with Pritzker. He's a real loser. But, you know, some of these places are just badly run. But, you know, it's almost going to force them to run better. And they won't do a good initially.

But you're not going to do worse than you're doing right now. And I would say that the cost, you would cut your cost by 50 or 60 percent. And you'd have a little monitor. You know, you want to make sure they're teaching English as an example. You know, give us an English, right? Sure. Right. No, no.

I mean, two of what. I mean, some of these governors are doing so badly. I mean, they've got so many people moving out of their state. They should get you whole salesman of the year. award because they're driving so much you all. It's actually amazing. People move it out. Isn't it amazing to you as a businessman that they can even survive?

Like Illinois, so many people are leaving. And you wonder, how do they survive? I mean, how do they survive? I saw where you left California and you moved to Texas. Texas does a great job. But, you know, I mean, I just wonder, how do these states survive when big businesses, a big oil company just left California, as you know, and they moved to Texas. How do these big states survive when they lose so many businesses and their taxes are already really high? You know,

the taxes are among the highest taxes. You almost wonder, how do they continue on? And in many cases, the governors don't do a good job and their crime-ridden places? You wonder, how do they continue to just go on? It's not a good situation. I mean, I think the thing that's, though, the only thing that's going to force some of these states to change is if they risk bankruptcy and they're not getting bailed out by the federal government. Right. Well, you're going to get them to change. You remember the area in California where they had that where I guess somebody had sticky

fingers and they sold a lot of money. And they went into a form of chapter and it was very nasty for a period of time. But now it's probably the most popular place in all of California. So at some point, something like that may have to. happen. But the problem is you can't penalize people that loan money to the state when you have incompetent people like a Pritzker. Look, the family didn't want him in the family business. And then he ends up being governor of Illinois. So, you know, is he going to be a great governor? And, you know, you have people. I could name every one of them. I got to know every one of these.

And some are very good and some are just horrible. Well, I think that, I mean, that larger point here, too, you know, as you're saying, like the, you know, lot of people are concerned about the economy, a lot of people concerned about inflation. And inflation is effectively a tax on people that save money and for people that are working day-to-day. It's just a form of taxation. And if we can solve the government spending problem, we'll solve the inflation problem, which means people will have a better standard of living. And that's a really big deal.

Well, the people that got hurt worse are the people that did it the way they were taught to do it all through their younger life and their younger life. and their young life and their whole life. The people that saved money, and then they got no interest on their money, and inflation destroyed them. And frankly, they were almost better off if they didn't do anything like that.

I mean, those people have been absolutely decimated, and we're going to bring those people back and help those people. We've got to get the prices down. You know, when I look at bacon, costing four or five times more than it did a few years ago, when you look at some of the food products

and groceries, those people go, they can't believe it. They used to be able to buy a whole cart until they, you know, a lot of people just don't have the money. They go in and they can't buy anything. They look at, yeah. It's sticker shock. They call it sticker shock, right? I think it really just comes, like I said, things just comes down to really, I guess really two things, which is, is that if you solve government overspending, you solve inflation, which improves loving standards of the average person. And then, and then if you deregulate, like have sense. reasonable regulations. Because a lot of the regulations are nonsensical and cause the cost to be extreme for no reason.

But unless you've got effective deregulation, like Reagan did a great job on deregulation in the 80s, but it's been 40 years since we hadn't. That's right. During your administration, we made some progress. But I think there's an opportunity to make, I think, radical progress with sensible regulation. and those two things. Those are the big deal. We set a record. We did more deregulation and more restrictions on all of the different businesses than any other president. Remember, I had the rule for everyone we put in. You have to get rid of at 10 or 12.

And we did radical cuts on all of that. And a lot of that's being put back by this administration. And we did radical cuts in things that weren't necessary. But we were all set. You know, we had the best economy ever maybe in the world. And then what happened is COVID came in. And we had a focus on that. And nobody knew what it was.

And I always say I got good marks on economy, good marks on military. We knocked out ISIS. We did so many different things. We rebuilt. But, you know, I never got the credit that we really deserved on what we did with COVID. We never got the credit. But we were, had that not happened, a gift of it. from China, from Wuhan, came in from Wuhan, the Wuhan labs, and I always said it, and it

turned out to be right. But had that not happened, we were set to start reducing debt. We were going to reduce taxes further. I gave the largest tax cuts, and we were going to reduce taxes still further for middle income people, not only businesses, but we did it for businesses, because they're the ones that, that's why we had the great job numbers. But we were set to really start reducing debt. And, you know, we're sitting on the biggest pile of liquid gold anywhere in the world, bigger than Saudi Arabia, bigger than Russia. And we were going to drill and we were going to make so much money. We were going to supply Europe with oil. I had stopped the Russian pipeline, and we were going to supply them with oil and gas. We were going to make a fortune.

And then the COVID came in, and we really had to divert. Then what happened is when they came You know, we kept a lot of businesses alive. If I didn't do what we did, we would have had a 1929 type depression. But the problem is when Biden came in, he got trillions of dollars and just started spending it stupidly. You didn't need it anymore. You know, we got over that bad period where everybody was dying and, you know, it was just not a good period. Interestingly, you know, during his administration, many more people died during his administration of COVID. than during my administration, and we really got the brunt of it,

but people don't realize more people died during his administration than ours. But it diverted us from doing what I wanted to do, but we had the greatest for almost three years. We had the great, and you know that probably better than anybody. So many of your friends said to me, the best years we've ever had in business were during the Trump years. And also said that African-American, Hispanic American were so incredible.

They were having the best Asian American women, men, young people without a diploma, young people that graduated from the best colleges, from MIT, from the Wharton School, from all of the great colleges, Harvard. They were doing better, and people without a diploma were doing better. And everybody was happy. And then COVID came. The problem is they spent trillions and trillions of dollars. they wasted, they shouldn't have taken any money, and we wouldn't be having inflation right

now, which is killing our country. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I should probably say something about, like, you know, maybe my views on, you know, climate change and oil and gas, because I think it's probably different from what most people would assume. Because my views are actually pretty, I think, moderate in this regard, which is that I don't think we should vilify the oil and gas industry and the, and the,

people that have worked very hard in those industries to provide the necessary energy to support the economy. And if we were to stop using oil and gas right now, we would all be starving and the economy would collapse. So it's, you know, I don't think it's right to sort of vilify the oil and gas industry. And I, you know, the world has a certain demand for oil and gas, and it's probably better if the United States provides that than some other countries. And it would, it would help with prosperity in the U.S. And at the same time, obviously, my view is like we do over time want to move to a sustainable energy economy because eventually you do run out of, I mean, you run out of oil and gas.

It's not there, it's not infinite. And there is some risk. I think the risk is not as high as, you know, a lot of people say it is with respect to global warming. But I think if you just keep increasing the cost of a million in the atmosphere, long enough. Eventually, it actually simply gets uncomfortable to breathe. People don't realize this. If you go past a thousand plus per million of CO2, you start getting headaches and nausea. And so we're now in the sort of 400 range. We're adding, I think, about roughly two parts per million per year. So, I mean, still gives us, so what it means is like we still have quite a bit of time.

but but so there's not like we don't need to to rush and we don't need to like you know stop farmers from farming or you know prevent people from having steaks or right basic stuff like that like like leave the farmers alone i agree how crazy is that where i mean you have farmers that are not allowed to farm anymore and have to get rid of their cattle and the whole the whole world yeah but it's largely taken its lead from us i i just say though i've heard in terms of the fossil fuel, because even to create your electric car and create the electricity needed for the electric car, you know, fossil fuel is what really creates that at the generating plants. And, you know, so you sort of can't get away from it at this moment. I mean, someday you

might be able to. But I do hear we have anywhere from 100 to 500 years left. You know, much of it hasn't even been found yet. Yeah. But there are tremendous, like Anwar, I got Anwar in Alaska approved. Ronald Reagan couldn't do it. Nobody could do it. Everybody tried. Nobody could do it. I got it approved. The first thing that Biden did was unimproved to get rid of it. He ended it. His secretary went in and she ended it. And what a disgrace. That's Anwar. That's bigger or they think it could be bigger than Saudi Arabia in Alaska. Could be bigger than Saudi Arabia. But they went in and they terminated it, and I'll get it going very quickly because not only is it big for Alaska. I mean, you talk about economic development. That for the United States, I mean, that is,

they say bigger than Saudi Arabia or the same size and pure, really good stuff. And, you know, they end it. So I think we have, you know, perhaps hundreds of years left. Nobody really knows. But during that time, something will come around. That will be very good. Yeah. Well, I mean, And my estimate would be, you know, a little more aggressive than that. But it's not the sort of like we're all going to die in five years stuff. That's obviously BS. But, I mean, my view is like if you just look at sort of the positive million that increments every year, you know, you get sort of 203 post a million every year of CO2. I mean, I think some of that, it's problematic if it accelerates if you start going from 203 to say five.

and then there may be some situations where you get just a step change increase in the CO2. And I think we don't want to get too close to 1,000 ppm because that's actually makes it uncomfortable to breathe. Like just existing in 1,000 ppm CO2 is uncomfortable. That's like a, that's considered like an industrial hazard. Right. Just so, so it's, you know, that's, that's actually, you start getting headaches and stuff. So it's, even without global warming, it's not, it's not comfortable to live it. So you don't want to get too close to that.

But, I mean, I think we've got, I think we want to just move over. And like, if, if, I don't know, 50 to 100 years from now, we're, we're, I don't know, mostly sustainable. I think that'll probably be okay. So it's, it's not like the, the house is on, on fire immediately. but I think it is something we need to move towards. And on balance, it's probably better to move their faster than slower. But like I said, without vilifying the oil and gas industry and without causing hardship in the short term, I think this can be done.

Without, you know, people can still have, you know, a stake and they can still drive gasoline cars. and it's okay. It's like it's not, I don't think we should volify people for it, but I think we should just generally lean in the direction of sustainability. And I actually think solar is going to be a majority of Earth's energy generation in the future. And it's certainly training that way. And so you get the solar power,

find that with batteries, because obviously the sun doesn't shine at night. And then you use that to charge the electric cars. and you have a long-term sustainable solution. And that's what Tesla is trying to move things towards. And I think we've made a lot of progress in that regard. But when you look at our cars, we don't believe that environmentalism that caring about the environment should mean that you have to suffer.

So we make sure that our cars are beautiful, that they drive well, that they're fast, they're sexy. I mean, they're cool. In fact, literally, I mean, this sexy joke, Model 3, Model X and Y spells out sexy. It was probably the most expensive joke out there. But I don't know, I like cheesy humor, you know. So, but I'm a big fan of like, let's have an inspiring future and let's work towards, you know, a better future. And we can do so without demonizing people.

Right. I'm okay. You know, it's very interesting. You use the word global warming. And today they use the word climate change because, you know, you have some places that go up. So they were getting themselves at a little trouble with the word global warming because not every place. is warming. Some places are going the opposite direction. But, you know, I'm sort of waiting for you to come up with solar panels on the roofs of your cars and on the trunks of the cars. And it just seems

like something that at some point you will come up with. I'm sure you'll be the first. But it would seem that a solar panel on the roofs, you know, on flat surfaces, on certain surfaces might be good, at least in certain areas of the country or the world where you have the sun. But I would think, and I have no idea because that's not my world, but I would think that this would be something that would be interesting. But, you know, the one thing that I don't understand is that people talk about global warming or they talk about climate change, but they never talk about nuclear warming. And for me, that's an immediate problem because you have, as I said, five countries

where you have major nuclear, and, you know, probably some others are getting there, and that's very dangerous. That's where you need a strong American president, because you don't want to have this proliferation. But you have five countries and getting more. You know, China is much less than us right now, but they're going to catch us sooner than people think. They're way lower.

Russia and us are number one, and we're sort of tied. And China is far behind, but they're developing at a level that, you know, you're not surprised to hear very fast. It's going to, they'll end up catching up, maybe even surpassing. But to me, the biggest problem, is not climate change.

It's not, and everything's a problem, but it's the greatest. To me, the big problem is the nuclear power. The power of nuclear is so great. And when I talk about, I'll prevent World War III. I will. But the truth is that you have to, because this is no longer army tanks going back and forth and shooting at each other.

This is a level of destruction and power that nobody's ever seen before. Yeah, and actually, there's the bad side of nuclear, which is a nuclear war, very bad side, but there's also, I think, nuclear electricity generation is underrated. And it's actually, you know, people have this fear of nuclear electricity generation, but it's actually one of the safest forms of electricity generation. It's just a huge misunderstanding. And if you look at the injuries and deaths, you know, caused by, say, I mean,

I'm not trying to pick on a coal mining, but just any kind of mining operation. And there's a certain number of injuries per year. And you compare that to nuclear. Nuclear is actually way better. So it's underrated as an electricity source. And I think it's something that's worth reconsidering. But there's so much regulation that people can't get it done. So that, you know.

Maybe they'll have to change the name. The name is a rough name. There are some areas. Yeah, it's rough name. Like when you see what happened. Bad branding. The branding. rebrand it. We'll have to give it a good name. We'll name it after you or something.

You know, it has a branding problem. You know, when you see what happened... It does have a branding problem. When you see what happened in Japan where they say you won't be able to go on the land for about 3,000 years. Did you ever say that? And in Russia, where they had the problem, where they, you know, there's a lot of bad things happened. And they have a problem. And they say that in 2,000 years, people will start to occupy the land again. You know, you realize It's pretty bad. No, that's not true. But there's, you're right about it.

It's amazing. It's actually not that bad. So, like, after Fukushima happened in Japan, like, people were asking me in California, you know, are we worried about, like, a nuclear cloud coming from Japan? I'm like, no, that's crazy. It's actually, it's not even dangerous in Fukushima. I actually flew there and ate locally grown vegetables on TV to prove it. And I donated a solar-water system for a water treatment plant.

Yeah, but you haven't been feeling so well lately, and I'm worried about it. No, no, but I mean, it's fine, you know. It's like, you know, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed, but now they're like full cities again. So it's really not something that, you know. That's great. So it's not as scary as people think, basically. Yeah. Let's see.

I mean, I mean, there's some other topics we should touch on. Oh, you know, like law fair. I think, you know, we need to be concerned about. What they've done to this country. Obviously. Yeah. Well, we just won the big case in Florida. This was a Biden administration did something that's never been done in this country.

And that's go after their political opponent, me, with this nonsense and just nonsense. And the big case in Florida we won. But they always pick a judge and a jury. And they use local DAs. They use the local attorney generals like Fawney, you know, Fawny. spelled F-A-N-I-F-A-N-I-Fani. And it's all a big hoax. And it's all run from there.

Like in Manhattan, one of the top people from the Justice Department went in, ran Manhattan, ran the state. The Leticia James deal was run by a person from the Department of Justice. Biden. They've never done this before. And they set up a very bad precedent. It's called lawfare, warfare. It's a terrible thing. And never happened.

It does happen in our country. It does happen in banana republics and third world countries, but it's never happened. And the incredible thing is it actually drove my numbers up because people see, you know, fortunately, I have a platform like you or, you know, in all fairness, like a conversation like this where I can talk about it and people understand. I mean, you fight for election integrity and you end up getting indicted because you're fighting for election integrity. And when the day comes that you can't fight for election integrity, you don't have a country anymore. So what happens is when after their political opponent, me,

now Biden's close to vegetable stage, in my opinion, okay? I looked at him today on the beach, and I said, why would anybody allow him? The guy could barely walk. Why would anybody allow him? Does he have a political advisor that thinks this looks good? You know, he thinks this looks good because it looks so bad. and it's ridiculous.

I mean, and he's been doing that for a long time. You know, he can't lift the chair. The chair weighs about three ounces. It's meant for children and old people to lift. And he can't lift it. The whole thing is crazy. Well, it's clearly, I mean, it's clearly like we just don't have a president. You don't have a president.

And she's going to be worse than him because she is a San Francisco liberal who destroyed San Francisco. And then as attorney general, she destroyed California. You talk about location, and we're talking about the sun and the water and all. There's nothing better than California. She has destroyed that. She was the original DA. She was the original in San Francisco. She was the original Attorney General in California.

What she has done to California is, well, you know better than I do. You just left California for a lot of those reasons. And what she's done with crime, with cashless bail, where you kill somebody. I mean, we have states there you kill somebody and they let you out right away. I mean, you don't have to even put up and then they never find the people unless they kill again. And then they let them out again. Our country is becoming a very dangerous place. And she is a radical left, San Francisco liberal.

And now she's trying to protect. Now she's looking like she wants to be more Trump than Trump, if that's possible. I don't think it's possible. But he wants to be more Trump than Trump. I want a wall. I think that's. You know, she wants to release all the prisoners that are in detention, and some of these guys are really bad.

Right. That just came out today. She doesn't want to build the wall, even though the walls work. Walls and wheels. You know, in your business, everything you do is obsolete, or not the tunnels, but everything is obsolete. Even your rocket ships, like a month later, they're obsolete. You find a better way to.

The only thing that's not obsolete is a wall and a wheel. And the wall, you know, I built hundreds of miles of wall, and that's why we had such good numbers. I was going to add 200 miles. We bought it. We could have flipped it up in three weeks, and they sold it for five cents on the dollar. That meant, I said, wow,

that means that they actually do want to have open borders. She wants to have open borders, and now she's going like she's tough on the border. It's such a lie. Yeah, this is simply not true. This is simply not true. And everybody knows it's not true. It's a disgrace that she can say it.

No, I mean, obviously what's happening sort of overnight is they're rewriting history and and making Kamala sound like a moderate when in fact she is far left, like far, far left. Where's than Bernie Sanders? She is considered more liberal by far than Bernie Sanders. She's a radical left lunatic. And if she's going to be our president very quickly, you're not going to have a country anymore. And she'll go back to all of the things that she believes in. She believes in defunding the police.

She believes in no fracking. Zero. Now all of a sudden she's saying, no, I will, I really want to see fracket. The day, if they got in, the day she got in, she'll end fracking. And by the way, if people didn't think that, the lunatics that really believe in that, they won't vote for her. You know, like the Palestinians and Israel, she is so anti-Israel. And she's bad for both.

Biden actually did something that was impossible. Both sides hate them, you know, both sides. That was a hard thing to do, unification. Yeah, no, no. I mean, you know, Netanyahu came to give a talk to a joint Senate and House sitting, and I was there, and Kamala stood him up. You know, what does that say? I think it's highly disrespectful.

And I say, if you're a Jewish person or if you believe in Israel, if you're a person that, you know, is a very pro-Israel, if you vote for her, it's worse than Biden, and Biden was bad. But if you vote for her, you ought to have your head examined. And you see tonight, I mean, as we're doing this, I'm seeing reports coming that they expect an attack tonight or tomorrow from hundreds and maybe thousands of rockets. You know, their Iron Dome, as they call it, as we all call it,

but their shield that they built, that can be swamped. We'll use a term. That's appropriate. Swamp. But they swap it by shooting enough missiles. You know this better than anybody. By shooting enough missiles, they can't defend themselves. You know, they just obliterate the whole place.

And that's what some people think they're looking to do. And we have no leadership. There's no respect for the United States of America with these people. And I'm telling you, you'll be worse than him. Because she's a believer in being radical left, and he wasn't. I think you're right. I mean, it's important for the public that may be listening to this to say, to look at Kamala's track record, you know, before the last, like, month and say,

is that a track record you agree with? And I think if you're an independent moderate, you definitely would not agree with it, because it is, her behavior has been far left. And we're seeing just an overnight propaganda attempt to rewrite history and make it sound like Kamala's moderate when she, in fact, is not moderate. Well, her running mate approved, signed into legislation, tampons in boys' bathrooms, okay? Now, that's all I have to hear. Campons in boys' bathrooms.

And that means she believes in that too. I mean, she picked this guy because he was the closest to her. A lot of people thought she'd picked sort of the opposite, but she picked an anti-Israel radical left person. but she is far worse. They say than Bernie Sanders, if we have her as a president, if we have a Democrat at this moment as a president,

I don't think our country can survive. I think it's a massive, I think we're in massive trouble, frankly, with the Kamala administration, and that's my honest opinion. And I think, I think really it's essential that you win for the good of the country,

for this election. And I mean, that's, I'm just stating my opinion. Now, you know, you may have seen this, but I got a letter from the EU Commission, like, saying, you know, to not have disinformation on the, like, during this discussion that we're having. And, you know, there's like, there's a lot of attempts to do censorship and to force censorship, even on Americans from other countries. And, you know, what do you think about that? Well, I know the European Union very well.

They take great advantage of the United States in trade, as you know. We, through a different form, NATO, we protect them. And yet, if you build a car in the United States, you can't sell it in Europe. You just can't sell it. It's impossible. The same thing with our farmers. Our farmers find it very difficult to do business. You know, we have a deficit with them of $250 billion, which,

People don't know. It sounds so nice the European Union, but let me tell you, they're not as tough as China, but they're bad. And I let them know it. And that's probably why they notified you. No, they don't treat our country well. We defend them. You know, with Ukraine, so we're in for 250 billion, and they're in for about 71 billion. And they have the same size. If you add up the European nations in terms of an economy, it's about the same size when you say as us. And they're in much greater risk. They're right there. We have an ocean separating us from, in this case, the enemy would be Russia. Used to be for the Soviet Union, but let's assume they're close enough. And what happens is they're in for 70-something million. I think even less than that billion. And we're in for about 250 billion, and it could be a lot higher than that.

And I say, why aren't you going to equalize? Why aren't they paying what we're paying? And they're in much more, you know, it's much more important for them because of the fact that, you know, they're right near there. I mean, they're all sort of in that location. We're not. But they should, they should, and I did it with NATO. We were, there were only seven countries that were paid up in NATO out of 28 at the time.

And the United States was subsidizing NATO. tremendously subsidizing NATO. And I said, I went in and I said, you've got to pay up. If you don't pay up, we're not going to defend you any longer. I took a lot of heat. But you know what happened? Billions and billions of dollars came flowing in. Yeah.

I think a lot of the public isn't aware of the fact that the United States pays a disproportionate share of the NATO expenses. And then we can take an advantage of you have on trade. So think of that. Yeah. Well, I mean, the point of NATO is defending Europe. And it's, you know, It's like, okay, well, why is the United States paying disproportionately more to defend Europe than Europe?

That doesn't make sense. That's unfair. And that is an appropriate thing to address. Well, you know, when you talk about cost-cutting and savings and everything else, I mean, honestly, look, there's nobody that feels worse about the Ukraine situation than I do because I know it would have never happened. I know Zelensky, he was very honorable to me because when they went with a Russia hoax and they said I had a phone call with him. He said it was a perfect phone call. It was a great phone call. He could have grandstanded and, you know, said, oh, he was very threatening. He said, no, it was a very nice phone call. I called him up to congratulate him on his wind, and you end up getting impeached because these people are lunatics. You know, I was talking about the difference from the people within and the enemies on the outside. In many cases, the people from within are more

dangers for our country than the Russians and the China's. If you have a smart president, you're not going to have a problem with them. You're going to make, you're going to do things. Yeah. Now, they've taken advantage of us incredibly, but you're going to do things with the right person. Yeah, well, I think it's obvious that you're a believer and an advocate of a free speech because during your first time as president, you were attacked relentlessly every day, often very unfairly with false attacks. And you didn't try to shut down the media. you didn't try to inhibit their freedom of speech. And I think that says a lot. Well, the good thing is that you and I have, and some people, very few, we can get the word out.

Although sometimes it's hard because they don't want to print it, you know, like we're having a great conversation right now. Kamala wouldn't have this conversation. She can't because she's not smart. You know, she's not a smart person, by the way. She can't have this conversation. And Biden, we don't even have to talk about it. I mean, he couldn't have this conversation. He would have given up in the first half of a question.

He would have walked out. He would have said, where am I? Where am I going? So anyway, but no, he wouldn't have this. That's true. Not a lot of people would have this conversation, but, you know, we cover a lot of territory. But the beauty is that you, you know, we can have a conversation.

And I'm able to get it out without, because I get treated. This is a really big point. You can actually have a conversation with you. Yeah, it's nice, isn't it? And you can't have a conversation. with Biden or Kamala. It's like not, it's not possible. That's true. So it's like talking to an MPC.

So it's just impossible. But think of it. We need a man or person who's unbelievably sharp in order to stop all the nuclear danger and all the dangers that I'm talking about. And I got along with all this. You know, I got along with Kim Jong-un. We had dinner. We had everything. And he really liked me. And I got along with him really well. By the way, he's the absolute boss over there. You know, a lot of people said, oh, do you think you really? Yeah, that's not for sure. Let me tell you, I saw things that you don't want to know about.

He is the boss. But we had a good relationship, and he doesn't like Biden. He considers him as a stupid man, he said. He's a stupid man. Well, at least he speaks his mind. But, you know, in this country, you're not sort of allowed to say it, but I guess you are. You should be allowed to say that it's true. But we need really, we need smart people, and we need people that have an ability to lead.

and she doesn't have that ability. Can you imagine, now you know Chairman she very well. Can you imagine her and him negotiating or even standing together? It is, the whole concept is redact. She is terrible. She's terrible.

But she's getting a free ride. I saw a picture of her on Time Magazine today. She looks like the most beautiful actress ever to live. It was a drawing. And actually, she looked very much like a great first lady, Melania. Yeah. She didn't look like Camilla. That's right. But of course, she's a beautiful woman, so we'll leave it at that, right? Yeah. Well, you know, maybe, like, I think part of what, you know, people in America want to, you know, people in America want to feel excited and inspired about the future.

We want to feel like the future is going to be better than the past. And that America's going to do things that are greater than we've done in the past, reach new heights that make you proud to be an American and excited about. the future. They want the American dream back. You know, they want the American dream back more important than anything else. It's like, you don't have that today because the people, they've been just sucked. They see incompetent people running our, you know, the Biden thing is very interesting. People just found him to be incompetent. And when I debated him, I was like, is this for real? It was. Yeah, it was just absurd. But I think there are like, you know, some, some, you know, grand projects that, that we could do. I mean, I think, like, you know, we could, we could build a base on the moon.

We could send American astronauts to Mars. We could build high-speed connections that are, you know, more advanced than anything else in the world between our cities. So people have fast transport, you know, it's possible to solve traffic with tunnels. Right. We, you know, we've already made great progress in Vegas doing that. And, you know, and just. do things that are exciting and inspiring to make the future feel like it's better than the best. Well, I saw what you did in Vegas, and I'll tell you, it was amazing. I got to see,

I took a big glimpse at it, and it's incredible. You know, it's incredible. And you could do that all over. You could do that all over. It's deep. Yeah. You don't even need much structure, you know, assuming you're in the right area. No, it's straightforward. It's amazing. So, and like, I think we could do some, some things that, like, China's got incredible high-speed rail between its cities, but I think it's actually possible with tunnels. With deregulation, with an ability to actually, where it's like legal to actually do the tunnels, they could have high speed tunnels that are actually better than anything else in the world for high-speed transport between cities.

And that would be something that, you know, Americans can say, wow, okay, we've got something that's cooler than anyone else in the world. That's the kind of thing that makes you proud to be in a moment. much safer than surface trains where there is a danger there, you know, with people, with crazy people. It's much safer, much better. And, you know, it's sad because I've seen some of the greatest trains I find it fascinating. And I've seen the systems and how they work and the bullet trains, they call them, I guess.

And they go unbelievably fast, unbelievably comfortable with no problems. And we don't have anything like that in this country, not even close. And it doesn't make sense that we don't. Don't. Doesn't make sense. Yeah. I think also like there's, you know, I just kind of hopping on the excess regulation. But I think something that I think people can generally understand is that what happens with

laws and regulations is that they just, there's more and more of them every year. And unless there's a process to clean them up, eventually everything becomes legal. And that actually slows down the development of new technologies. I mean, if you take the sort of like I think we, there's room for some reform at the, at the FDA. for improving the speed with which we approve drugs that could help save lives and improve people's lives. I worked very hard on that. We got that down to the lowest number ever. And we got therapeutics approved in the FDA that people can't even believe the speed.

But I took them on. I don't think they like me too much. But I got things approved in the FDA at numbers that they wouldn't believe. And, you know, it's a very bureaucratic group. Actually, it's a fine group of people in many cases. I got to know a lot of them, but I was pushing them really hard for regenerants, for so many different things that were really pretty amazing. But the FDA takes too long.

It's 12 years to get a product approved. I got it down to four, and I got some things done very quickly. But it's really something that is going to have to be worked on because it takes too long. just takes too long. Yeah, it just takes too long, and it's, you end up in the same with the approval, but it just, you know, it takes years instead of something that, I think, could potentially take months, and that improves people's lives. I think, you know, and, but, but I just wanted to hop on this point that, like, there has

to be an active process for reducing rules and regulations, because otherwise they just keep building up every year and you get, like, hardening of the arteries, and eventually everything's illegal or takes forever. And then we just ossify as a society. We just, we can't make any progress. And that's a really big deal. Well, you know, Elon, just getting back to the FDA for one second, I got something done called Right to Try. This is where you can go in and if you're terminally ill, you can use a space age, you know, medicine or whatever it may be. We have the best doctors, the best labs in the world. We really do. But people would go to other countries because you couldn't use the product, even if they thought it worked because it's going through the FDA.

I got it approved where you can basically, look, nobody wanted. The doctors didn't want it because of the liability. The country didn't want it, our country, because they didn't want to get sued. These are people terminally ill. The insurance companies didn't want it and the pharmaceutical companies. Nobody wanted it. I got everybody into a room, and we came up with an agreement that you won't get sued. and also they didn't want it on their record.

If somebody's terminally ill and they die after taking a drug, they didn't want that on their record. So we set a separate list so it wouldn't count as a negative. And as you know, we got it done. We have saved right to try. They've been trying to get this done for 58 years. And it sounds simple, but it wasn't because, you know, I mean, you know, the insurance companies, nobody wanted it.

But we got it done. Somebody signs, you sign a document that you're not going to sue the insurance companies, the country, you're not going to sue anybody. And we got it done. And we're saving tens of thousands of lives, right to try. Hopefully you never need it. But if you do, you don't have to travel to Asia. You know, people, if they had money, they go to Asia, they go to Europe. If they don't have money, they go home and die. That's what happened. They'd go home and die. Well, I mean, actually, to give Europe some props here, it's like, if a drug is approved in Europe, which has a crazy amount of regulations, it should obviously

be approved in the U.S. I mean, they get more regulations than we do. So why would a drug be approved in Europe and not in the U.S.? That's crazy. Well, we did something that really, they've been trying to do it for 50 years, and they just couldn't get it done, and I got it done. And it's really something. But you're right.

Some people go to Europe because a drug isn't approved here, but it's approved in Europe. And it's a drug that, generally speaking, would work. It's pretty crazy. Absolutely. You're right. I think so long as people are properly informed of the pros and cons and like these the risk, this is the risk and like you make your own decision. That makes sense.

Well, I think just, you know, in sort of closing up, and by the way, I'm looking at the numbers. You've got a lot of people listening. I hope you don't get nervous because you got a lot of people listening to you right now, like 60 million or something. What is that number? It's crazy. It's amazing how you can see that right away. How many?

What is the number? Wow. What is it? Well, I think in terms of, That's bigger than you said. You said 25 and you're much more than double that number, 25 million. I think you're going to be 60 or 70. And I guess over a period of time, hey, I congratulate you.

Do I get paid for this or not? Well, I think actually in terms of the number of people that will hear this conversation over the next few days to weeks, it's going to be hundreds. That's what they say. Yeah, that's good. Well, look, it's an honor. But I just ask this, are you better off now or what you're better off when I was president? Nobody's better off now.

You know, we put out polls on that, and nobody's better off now. Inflation has killed it. And, you know, they also feel very unsafe. You look at what's going on with a lot of different things. You look at the riots we had in the colleges over, I mean, it's ridiculous, but all of the rights. They just feel unsafe. And now they really feel unsafe because you have a new form of, crime. It's called migrant crime. I call it Biden migrant crime. Maybe I'll call it Kamala migrant crime.

But, you know, I mean, with all these things, I always try to, like, try to get to the ground truth by just asking people. And, you know, my mom lives in New York. And I was like, you know, mom, you know, have any of your friends, you know, been attacked or assaulted? And she said, yeah, three of her friends and three separate incidents were assaulted just, just, just in recent months, just walking around the streets in New York. And I, and I said, well, What happened to the people that sold them? Oh, nothing. They got away.

Like, and they just know. They always get away. And they don't ever, and they don't even bother reporting it because there's not, they know that there's not, they're not going to, you know, people are not going to get prosecuted. They just, they just let, you know, violent criminals out in New York.

The only one that gets prosecuted is Donald Trump. They don't, they prosecute Trump. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's just obviously messed up. Oh, it's terrible. If violent criminals are being. are being getting off SCAR-free. And meanwhile,

the New York spending massive resources prosecuting you. And it's like, what's this, you know, and I think the sort of sensible public looks at this and says, what the heck's going on here? This is obviously abuse of the legal system.

You know, the legal system is supposed to be protecting the public from violent criminals. And it should be obviously allowing the public to make their own decision about who should be president as opposed to, you know, some, you know, legal case. Once they start this precedent, because this can go on with the next one, I mean, this is a very bad precedent what they're doing in terms of, you know, going after their political opponent.

And that's all it is. It's going after their political opponent. And then you get a judge who's, you know, a strong Democrat, and I'm being nice when I say that in many cases crooked as hell. But you get a judge and you go into an area where a Republican gets three or four percent of the vote. And, you know, you'll have a jury pool with people that hate Republicans or hate, it could also be the other way, though. Because it could start the other way in areas where they hate Democrats.

And you get into a Pandora's box. It's a very dangerous thing for this country and a very dangerous thing even for the state. New York City and state lose a lot of business over what they did to me because these people say, we don't want that to happen to us. It's no justice system. You have an unfair system. justice, and it's costing New York State a tremendous amount of money. People are leaving and companies are leaving, and they won't come back. So, you know, all of that stuff is important. But the economy now is

the big thing, and we can turn that economy up so fast, and people are going to be back again. We're going to get rid of the inflation. I think there's a lot of opportunity. Right. Absolutely. And I just want to congratulate you. You've done an amazing job. You have definitely got a fertile mind, you know, we can talk, you and I can talk about rockets. Let's get kind of you to say, thank you. Well, tunnels, we can talk about tunnels and rockets and electric cars, so many things. And now you're into the AI, and that's going to be another beauty, I'll say. So it's an amazing, it's an amazing thing you've done, Elon.

It's an amazing thing, and I congratulate you. I mean, thank you. Well, I mean, I just say, you know, here's to an exciting, inspiring future that people can look forward to and be optimistic. and excited about what happens next. And that's the kind of future that I think you will bring as president, and that's why I endorse you. Well, I appreciate that.

That endorsement meant a lot to mean. Not all endorsements mean that much, to be honest. Your endorsement meant a lot. And, you know, we have a phrase, make America great again. It's pretty simple, but it really says that we want to make America great again. And we can do it. We can do it now. But if we were going to suffer another four years like we've suffered for the last four years,

I'm not sure the country can ever come back. That's how bad it is. It's so bad. We have to do a lot of things. I think that's a very real risk. It's a big risk. That's a very real risk. And, you know, I just like to note to people listening, like, I've not been very political before. And I've just, if you look at my record, it's, I've actually been, I'm not like, since I try to paint me as like a far right guy, which is absurd because I'm like making electric vehicles and, you know, solar and batteries help in the environment. And, and I actually, I, you know, I supported Obama. I stood in line for six hours to shake Obama's hand when, when he was running for president.

And, you know, so it's not like I'm like some sort of died in the wall long-term republic. I'm actually, I call myself, you know, historically a moderate Democrat. And but now I feel like we're really at a critical juncture for the country. And, you know, I think a lot of people thought, you know, that Biden administration would be a moderate administration, but it's not. And obviously, we were just going to see an even further leverage. administration with with comla that's that's that's my honest opinion i mean her dad is literally i mean she was brought up as a as an actual it her dad is like is a is a moxist economist that's you can google it i mean it's not a we're not making this up you know um that's how she was brought

up so and and we we just we want to have a future that is prosperous and and i i think we're just at this critical juncture and and i think this is a case of the America is kind of at a fork in the road. And I think it will take it will take the path like you are the path to prosperity. And I think Kamala is the opposite. Then that's my, I mean, that's my honest opinion. I'm going to get attacked like crazy. And, you know, I've also experienced quite a bit of lawfare myself.

And but I'm just trying to tell people my honest opinion. And I haven't been active in really active in politics before. and I'm just trying to point out that my track record historically has been moderate, if not moderate, slightly left. And so this is to people out there who are in the moderate camp to say, I think you should support Donald Trump or president. And I think it's actually a very important junction in the road, and we're in deep trouble if it goes the other way. Well, I want to thank you. And, you know, I actually always did think of you as somewhat left. I must say that. So it's even more of an honor.

have your endorsement. I know how strong you feel about it. But, you know, when you think of her, San Francisco, 15 years ago, had a great friend Bob Tish. She said it's the greatest city in America. And now it's almost not livable there. And California likewise. And she was involved in the destruction of San Francisco and the destruction of California. And she will be involved in the destruction of our country if people are so unwise as to elect her. And I hope that doesn't have. happen, and I hope the elections are going to be run honestly, and we're going to turn this country around. We're going to do things that, and we can do it fairly quickly, and we have to get rid of the criminals that have been, you know, given to us by other countries as they laugh. They laugh at us.

They think we're stupid to accept these people. These are radical stone cold killers in many cases, and terrorists, and they're in our country by the hundreds of thousands. Yeah. And we have to take them out. Yeah, I mean, if I could summarize it perhaps, you know, I think these are issues that I think most people in America would agree with, which is that we want safe and clean cities, we want secure borders, we want sensible government spending, we want to restore both the perception and reality of respect in the judicial system, you know, stop the lawfare. and I think that's like and how are those even right-wing positions I think those are just that's just common sense and and that's uh I mean would you agree with that 100% I don't understand you know the whole they call it progressive they don't like the word liberal anymore but call it liberal or progressive I don't understand how somebody could say that it's okay for them to empty prisons into our country and again I told you their crime rates all over the world

going way down, which makes sense. In fact, the next time what we'll do is if something happens with this election, which would be a horror show, we'll meet the next time in Venezuela, because it'll be a far safer place to meet than our country. So we'll go, you and I will go and we'll have a meeting and dinner in Venezuela, because that's what's happening. Their crime rate's coming down and our crime rate's going through the roof, and it's so simple.

And you haven't seen anything yet because these people have come into our country and they're just getting acclimated. and they don't know about being politically correct law enforcement or lack of law enforcement. And our police, I have to just end with this. We have great police. We have great law enforcement, but they're not allowed to do their job. They have to be able to do their job without being destroyed. Well, absolutely.

And it's obviously demoralizing if you're a police officer risking your life to, you know, to arrest violent criminals who could kill you and do kill you sometimes. and then you arrest the violent criminal and then the DA doesn't prosecute and that's let the guy out well then like why should a police officer risk their life to arrest a violent felon

Well even worse Elon nothing's going to happen Even worse they prosecute the police officer They go after and they prosecute the police officer and they take away his pension They take away his job He loses his family He loses his house

Well, I thought it was very telling, like an incredibly telling that, you know, when there was a case where, you know, sort of a gang of thugs beat up police officers. I think it was in Times Square in New York. And then nothing happened to those guys. They were let out zero bail. And I think bunch of them were given free tickets to California. Well, what is, I mean, that is a gross indignity against the United States. and that's how, I mean, this is insane. Like, have we lost all pride?

How can such a thing be allowed to occur? I've never seen anything. You know, we see where they get shot. It's a very dangerous profession, but something they're very proud of and they want to be able to do their job. But I've seen them get shot. I've seen a lot of things.

But I've never seen where these guys are standing in the middle of a big street, everybody watching them, and they're literally boxing, like punching, stand up fighting. A police officer. There were two of them. And yet about six of these guys, and they're punching the hell out of them.

And in their own country, they would be dead if they did that. They'd be shot. They would be shot instantly. And, you know, they come from these countries. And it's taking them a while to realize that we don't do that in this country. But in their own country, if they stood on a street and had a fight with a police officer, they would be shot. There's no political correctness.

And it's such a sad, it's such a sad thing to see. And that's the reason you have. by the way, because we don't do anything about it. Yeah, we just cannot have a situation where our police officers are beaten up on camera by, you know, a gang of illegal immigrants, and then nothing happens to the guys that beat up the cops. I mean, and they're let out. This is unacceptable.

Well, we're going to change it, and we're going to get them out of the country. You know, when I first got involved, they said you couldn't get them back to these countries. You couldn't take them back. In the case of Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador. some others. You couldn't get them back. And I said, really? Oh, you can't get it back. Because under Obama, he couldn't get them back. They'd put up, they'd fly them in and they'd put planes on the runways in these countries. So you couldn't land the plane. They'd bring them back. And the general told me, the generals told me, sir, we can't bring them back. The countries won't accept MS-13 gang members.

They won't accept them. And I said, really, how much do we pay these various countries in terms of economic aid, which is also somewhat ridiculous? And the answer was $750 million. I said, good. Tell them they're in default. They're delinquent. We're not going to do, we're not paying them anymore because they won't accept it. And you know what happened? They all called me every one of them. They said, we would be... It was so easy.

But it's one of those things. And we got it back. We took in so many... You know, MS-13 is probably the worst gangs in the world. They're the most vicious violence. We took them out of here by the thousands and got them out of here, and their countries took them back. And because I said, you're not getting any more economic aid.

And once I said that, they were nice. They wouldn't take them back for Obama. They wouldn't take them back for anybody. And now we have a problem because we have this guy. And they, again, they don't take them back anymore with the Biden because they don't respect him. Yeah, yeah. So it's just got to, it's got to be done. We just can't have, whether they're citizens or not citizens.

We can't have, because they won't prosecute citizens either, not just not just legal. So if it's, you can't. have violent, repeat violent defenders that are not, that, that, that don't get, um, incarcerated. That's right. Because they will, they will, they will obviously, by definition, continue to, uh, to, to, uh, you know, hurt people. And, and I, I think where part of this comes from is that there's, um, and I, you know,

I do sort of concern myself liberal in some ways. I mean, I, it's just that you want to have empathy for people. Right. Obviously, you want to have empathy for people. I totally agree with that. You want to have empathy. but you also have to have empathy for the victims of the criminals. And if you just have empathy for the criminals, it's actually shallow empathy.

It's not real. You're not thinking. You have one layer deep empathy. You've got to say, like, if you don't incarcerate this person, who are they going to hurt? They might kill someone. They might rape someone. If you don't incarcerate them, you have to have empathy for the victims. And there's a lack of empathy for the victims of the crime.

criminals and too much empathy for the criminals. It doesn't make sense. That's why you want to have deep empathy for society as a whole, not shallow empathy for criminals. And we have to give our police officers the dignity and the respect that they deserve. And we have to let them do their job. They can do a great job, but we have to let them do their job. And if we don't do that, you know, it's going to all disappear. There's never been a society like this where you're allowed to do anything you want and nothing happens. And I'm talking about violent crime. And it's going to get more violent because these are really, really violent people. And we're going to get them out of our country and we're going to get them back to where, because they were sent here by the presidents and by the

various people that run those countries. And I know every one of those guys. And they're smart people. And they're streetwise people. And they really think that the USA is stupid. They think we're run by stupid people. And they happen to be right. But when I was there, we had no people. We had no problem. We got them out. We took out thousands of MS-13 gang members. We brought them back. And now, again, it's the same old story. We don't do it. And they actually gave them a big increase in aid. They raised it up to billions of dollars, and they get nothing for it. So, you know, it's, I hope everybody's going to vote for Trump and we're going to get this country. And I didn't need this. I'm like, I didn't need this. I had a very nice life. I didn't need

to go through court systems and go through all the other stuff and run. at the same time. I have to run. I have to go through fake trials with, in some cases, corrupt judges, totally corrupt judges. I didn't need it. I had a nice life. I have great locations. They have beautiful oceans that I have places. But I felt it was important. And if I had to do it over again, you probably think I'm crazy for doing it actually. But if I had to do it over again, I would have done it over again because this is so much more important than me or my life. This is we're going to save this country. This country is going down, and these people are bad people that were running against and they're liars. They make statements. They do things that are so bad.

They say they're going to make a strong border. They say they've been great on the border, and they've been the worst in history. They say they're going to stop crime. The facts speak for themselves. It's so incredible. It's got the point where people just don't even bother reporting crime in a lot of cities because they know nothing that's going to happen. You know, that's what I hear anecdotally from people all the time. So, you know, it's just, you know, my values, I'm just saying to people out there, like, my, you know, the things I think are important for the future is like we've got to have safe cities. We've got to have secure borders. We're going to have sensible spending. And we have, and we've got to have deregulation. And so we can have a prosperous future. And then we want to have some exciting, you know, sort of moonshot projects that people get fired up about.

And, you know, that's the future I'm looking for. And, you know, I'm pro-environment, but I'm not against, you know, I'm not like, I don't think we should vilify the oil and gas industry because they're keeping civilization going right now. And, but I do think we want to move, you know, a reasonable speed towards a sustainable energy economy. Those are my values. And I think, you know, and so, I mean, that's why I'm supporting you for president, you know. Well, I appreciate. We're going to make, we're going to give incentive to companies to come into our country, not to leave our country. We're going to be giving tremendous incentives.

We want companies to build here, not to build in other locations, and we want to create jobs. And again, it's about the American dream. You don't hear about the American dream anymore, Elon. You don't hear you're the American dream, and the truth says, but you don't hear about the American dream anymore, and you're going to hear about it. People, they need that incentive to go out and do it. And they're going to love their lives.

I mean, they're going to look forward to getting up in the morning and going to a job that they love, not a job that they can't send, or not any job at all, where they have no money, where they literally have no money. And then they end up with violence and lots of other problems. No, we're going to do. We're going to do some great things. And I learned a lot in the first. We had a great economy and all of that. We rebuilt the military. We did so much. But I also learned, and I also learned the best people. I learned the good people, the smart people, the dumb people, the people, the people that can do things. You know, you learn. When I first came in, I tell people, I was in Washington, D.C., only 17 times, according to the fake news media. I was in 17 times. I never stayed over. And you don't know people. You rely on other people to give you names. And then you realize the people.

you relied on weren't so good. Now, we had great people, but we also had some where I wouldn't have used them had I known. Now I know everybody. And I think we're going to really turn things around fast. We have no choice. Otherwise, we're not going to have a country. And I really appreciate this. To me, it's been a lot of fun being with you. You're an amazing guy. You've done an incredible job. And a great inspiration to people, a great inspiration. And I hope you keep going and just continue to do well and we're going to have a big election coming up and I think November 5th will be the most important day in the history of our country. I think that election will be the most important election and I think it'll end up being maybe the most important day in the history

of our country because if we don't win, I just feel so sorry for everybody. No, I think we're at a folk in the road of destiny of civilization and I think we need to take the right path and I think you're the right path. So I think that's what it comes down to. Thank you very much, Elon. It's a great honor. And we'll do it again sometime. And it's been really fun.

And I hope you got a lot of viewers. I hear you got a lot. But I know you got a lot of them. So I appreciate it. I'll see you soon. All right. Sounds good. Thank you.

All right. So there is the Elon Musk, Donald Trump interview. Guys, this has been quite a long interview. We did not necessarily expect Donald Trump and Elon Musk to go that long, although we did not know. But either way, I've been actually, you know, going back and forth with Dave and text. Oh, good thing. Because I was wondering if Dave was still there.

No, no, he's here. Now, we've been talking pretty heavily in the space. So, Dave, one of the things that we were talking about in text was one of your first things you said was this is historic regardless of how long it is and and whatever either party said it is historic what do you mean by that this is history like a presidential candidate and former president has direct access to the masses we we have no idea how many people he reached out to i i bet it it's the largest direct communication like this ever and it's in not in this preachy statesman false statesman-esque way or anything like it's just as a normal guy like if you

you cannot not listen to that and walk away not feeling like he actually cares about the normal dude he cares about normal farmers in america normal workers he's not talking about his rich friends and this and that he's like we we we got to help people with groceries yeah we got to help people with education we got to help people with their health care this is like crime in his streets he's a billionaire he's isolated from all this yeah and and i agree with you and and going i'm going to go backwards to forwards real quick because they have some notes here but you know one of the things that he said to your point, right? He's a billionaire.

And yet he's talking about the common man. And one of the things he said was, you know, I didn't have to do this. You know, this was not something I had to do. I had a great life. I had many great properties. I was happy. I was waking up every day and going and playing golf. And doing, yeah, and running massive multi-billion dollar businesses.

And I didn't have to do this, but he did. and now he's even knowing what came after Donald Trump during his first four years of presidency and then even after obviously with all the lawsuits, the assassination attempt, all of these things, he's still going after it. And it's one of those things when I hear people say, oh my God, Donald Trump's the worst. He's a fascist. He's this. He's that bullshit, dude.

I can't stand hearing that anymore because regardless of whatever your viewpoint is on anything, you have to look at the reality of. he is a billionaire he has a perfect life he did before this everybody loved him rappers talked about him all this shit and then once he realized that hey i'm going after the swamp that's what he ran on it i'm going to drain the swamp and then when he gets into office obviously there was a lot of the swamp that came around him and i think that was a that was some of the issue but even with that he still was able to do a lot of amazing things a lot better than many other presidents and then they went after him even harder because they knew

was like shit he is standing away of our agenda and our narrative and now we have to do something about it. So let's try to prosecute him. Let's try to put him in prison. Let's try to kill him if that doesn't work. And even you look at this live space tonight where there were where was a massive DDoS attack apparently to try to stop this space. And I think it, I think went off without a hitch. But it, I mean, Dave does not make a point where you're a billionaire, you run for president? You realize that the deep state, aka the intelligence agencies and others, are going after you. And literally now trying to kill you, which is going to lead me to my next point. But what is your thoughts on that?

I mean, is it not, is that not true to you as far as his intentions? Yeah, I think he genuinely loves America. I think, I think Elon made an amazing point that you're the path to prosperity and Camelon's the opposite. Mm-hmm. You know, that's what we have to take away. We have to see she won't even take an interview. Like I was messaging you.

She won't take an interview. Biden's probably, I don't know that Biden's alive. You know, you see a guy riding a bike who's six inches taller than him. This makes no sense. It's starting to not even really look like him. So nobody's heard from either of these people, yet Trump's going to X and his platform simultaneously to talk to it, 25, 50 million people by the time this is done directly. Yeah.

And by the way, there's already 63 million impressions on the actual live feed. So that kind of tells you where people stand. think. Well, it does, but I mean, I think it does in a large part. But, you know, as you look at mainstream media, which keeping in mind, mainstream media is a day of old, right? I mean, it is something that is in the past, although a lot of the boomers and a lot of the people that still watch that shit believe that is everything. But it really isn't because it is still on our TVs in some ways. And there are still people that watch mainstream news, but there's also a lot of people that don't watch mainstream news. They have YouTube on their TV. They're watching X. They're watching these

videos. And one of the things, one of the biggest things I think X has got to fix immediately is Chromecast and being able to cast videos or live spaces or whatever on your television. They said they were going to do this like six or seven months ago. And the reason I say this is very important is because like on YouTube, for example, if I want to watch something, I want to just cast it to my TV. I don't need, I don't want Apple play bullshit because not all my TVs can do Apple Play. Yeah.

And you don't want to watch it on your phone necessarily either. You want it on the TV. Yeah. And if you want to incorporate your family. or people around you or whatever the case is. You need that. X is still not done that. I don't know why they have not done it,

but they need to get on that very, very fast. Next point I want to get to because this has been a long episode, which we're going to edit out, which I'm going to make sure everyone knows that. I'm going to have to record something after this. Say we're going to edit out some of the intro stuff, some of the stuff we were kind of wondering what was going to happen. Is the video going to play?

Is the space going to play? But one of the first things is how Trump talked about the secret service. he basically defended the Secret Service again. And I say this again because almost every single time that Trump has talked about the assassination attempt, he has defended the Secret Service on every single occasion. And I still don't understand this. Is this just his utmost respect for Secret Service? Or is this him not wanting to be killed in the near future?

That is a good question. But I want to like reply real quick. I think he does defend them because they were the first to jump on him, like most of them within seconds, jumped on him. And he knows that. And, you know, I think part of his life being saved is because he ducked down and because he looked left instead of right or whatever. But he also made a big point with the sniper that actually shot him. There were a bit more people die and all that stuff.

And all those things are relevant, right? But it just seems like to me, if it was me in the position of Trump and may, and listen, and I'm not in a position of Trump. I have not been protected by Secret Service, so I don't understand the relationship as 100%. But, Dave, what is your thought on that? I mean, should he be defending Secret Service as adamantly as he is? I mean, he almost seems different when he talks about that.

Well, you have to understand that day, there were only four of his protective detail there from Secret Service. The rest was Homeland Security and FBI, right? It's Homeland Security, FBI, and local assets. they brought in another federal whatever that was there. Yeah. So he's praising one. He didn't say anything about anyone else.

Right? There's multiple units there. Everything was going on. And the reality is they did jump up there and do their job. Were they chaotic and messy? It's a chaotic and messy situation. It wasn't professional. He obviously doesn't have the top tier guys.

They still did their best. He's still alive. You know? Yeah, true. A sniper did take the shot. And as we've, you know, we found it afterwards. There was crazy cross-communication going on that day.

So it's an interesting thing. I think it's an interesting thing, and it's going to sound crazy, but it also, to me, reflects very, it has echoes of history. And what I mean by that is like the foundation of our country, right, from the revolution. We had men of wealth and means that helped lead our country out of the times,

out of the subjugation of, of England, right? And it cost most all of them, you know, their fortunes, their lives, their families, their holdings. It didn't go well. And here we have Donald Trump and Elon Musk billionaires, kings and to themselves. Yeah. They're putting it all in the line.

They're putting their money, their families, their lives. The things Elon said today, how do you think that's going to affect his stock prices tomorrow? For sure. They're going to come for him, right? He has signed himself up to go to war with the IRS and the government, the federal government after what he just said with this endorsement. I mean, you already had Kamala and her people have already put out a statement,

how dare Elon do this and back him with money and give this platform. Like, what? It's free speech. Yeah, they're panicking. And that's what we're seeing all across X. I mean, and he's right. He said at the end, he said, I know, even though he didn't say these exact words. But he said, he said, I know the hell that I'm going to have to pay based on what I'm doing.

And he's going to, right? I mean, we're going to see it all on mainstream media. We're going to see it on all the press, on all the channels, on everything you can possibly think of. They're going to demonize this interview. They're going to say this is hate-filled. This is whatever the case. Kamala Harris's campaign is already doing this. And mainly because Trump literally just said there are a lot of rough people coming across the border.

And a lot of these people are not only criminals. And I'm not, as he said, not all of these people. But there are a lot of these people. people that are coming across the board that are criminals. These are people that the worst of the worst places that have the highest crime rates are sending their people to the United States. It helps them. But also, they're also sending what Trump calls nonproductive people.

The people are not actually productive to society, that they are also going to implant into society in the United States. And then what are those people going to do? They're going to suckle off of the teat of the United States welfare systems and all this other shit that taxpayers are paying for. And a lot of these people will be criminals. A lot of these people will kill people that you may know or may not know just yesterday. I think it was yesterday.

Some dude came up to a Jewish guy in New York and stabbed him and said, free Palestine. Stabbed him in his stomach. And, and you know, this is, this sounds somewhat similar in some cases of what may be happen in other parts of the country or not country, but around the world. Yeah. This is a battle of culture and ideologies and also religions, but also good versus evil. I think it boils down to that. But he's right.

We have a problem. And if Kamala gets in, Dave, we're going to have 60 to 80 million people illegals in this country over the next four years. And it's going to be nuts. Chad, if she gets in, we have bigger things to worry about. They're going to come for the voices of dissent. Say that again? They're going to come for the voices of dissent. podcast like this.

Absolutely. You're not going to be able to speak against them. You know, and something else trumped tonight that I think is more subtle and it's very strategic. I think there's a reason this thing went three plus hours.

It shows his level of stamina, his strength, his mental fortitude. That's why on his true social if you went over there, they're doing a video of him talking. He's just sitting there talking to the phone. That's why it sounded weird.

It was a phone mic. But he's just, I mean, That's incredible. Absolutely. You know what I mean? No, it's. Biden can't do that.

Camilla can't do that. Well, Biden, yeah. Biden has passed out in some kind of incognito state. Yeah. I mean, it's absolutely bad shit crazy. And, you know, like I said, and Trump said, he doesn't need this. There were a couple other things. You know, the reality of this is, is that Trump said you want to wake up and you want to look forward

to your life. You want to look forward to your day. you don't want to feel so stressed and completely at, you know, like, like the world is against you. Like everything is falling down. And I think a lot of people feel that way. And the main reason for that is because the world is crumbling in so many ways right now. And not just the world. The United States is crumbling.

And as Elon said, if, if Kamala gets back in office in 2024, America will not survive. And I agree with him. I agree with Trump. I agree with anyone that says that. inflation is the worst that's ever been. You know, Kamala Harris keeps saying at day one of my presidency, we're going to do this and this and this. All the shit that they're allowing and making sure is happening actually in their presidency now. And yeah, she's trying to gaslight you and say, oh, don't worry, guys, we're going to get all this done.

No, the reality is, as Elon said, if you look up her dad, he is a Marxist. She is one of the worst and most left-leaning candidates of president in the United States history. I mean, we're talking about Venezuela type shit. We're talking about places like this that if you look at Venezuela, they're in a full-on communist state and dictatorship. That's what it is. And this is Kamala Harris's nation as we see it. And I just hope, I hope, and I do believe 100%.

I believe that a lot of the bullshit and a lot of the hoopla and a lot of the popularity and all this stuff that we're seeing. I think it's all fabricated. I think it's a sciop to get you to believe that Kamala is this great American presidential candidate like we've never seen before. This is all a sciop. And I think they're utilizing it, right? I just,

it's weird. Yeah, it's, it's a historic moment. It's a huge thing. The quotes that are going to get pulled and come out of this. I mean, they talked about it.

They covered so much. Yeah. They covered so much. And the brilliance of this is, I love that Elon phrased it as though it's a conversation. And it was a conversation between two intelligent, unbelievably successful individuals who have crazy power unto themselves, right? They're their own kings of their own little universes. And they covered everything from education, inflation, groceries, immigration, the economy, nuclear war, nuclear power, alternative energy. That's unbelievable.

is no debate that would ever give anyone the time to answer any questions like that. In fact, the modern debating system is ridiculous. Long-form conversations and interviews is where the information is. It's where you can find the truth. It's where you can get to see the person for who they are, not just the little bit they are, that sham and act, right? Yeah, you're right. It's a powerful moment.

This will change politics. This will change every federal election, every major governor, governor race, every person who wants to be any, you know, a senator, a congressman, a governor, whatever, along those lines. Yeah. This is the model that they're going to follow. You are 100% correct, my friend, I believe. And, you know, it's one thing that Trump says, are you better off now or under Trump? And I think you've got to ask yourself that.

And if you think that you're better off under Trump than you are now, you damn sure better vote Trump. because the next four years, if that doesn't happen, it's going to be way worse than what we've experienced the past four years. And as Elon said, we are at a critical juncture in this country. We either make the right choice or we don't. If we make the wrong choice, this country is over. And I truly believe that. Like I said, inflation, everything is at its worst right now in America.

And it's not just America. You know, oftentimes what America is in. distress. You'll see the world in the stress. That is just the way of the world. It's kind of like the market pinpoint of, you know, what is the market indicator? Well, the United States is the market indicator. I'm talking stock terms a little bit, but the United States is the market indicator of the world, right? It's like global peace is the United States. Whatever's going on the United States, typically you're going to see a reflection of that around the world. And so if you have a weak United States, you're going to have a very destruct world. And I think that's what we're

seeing. Oh, yeah. Our unique freedom and our First Amendment, our true First Amendment, right, gives us a shield that we carry on our backs that allows us to prosper. It allows us to live amazing lives. It allows us to do things we're doing right now with no worry of reprisals from our government, unlike our cousins over there in the UK. And in Europe in general, as that is deteriorating. But our shield that we carry in our back is so big and so broad and so powerful that it gives even those in Europe and in the West hope and light and a little bit of protection, right?

Like they can't really crack that boot down because America's not going to stand for that. Yeah. If we fall, everyone else falls with us. You're right. And we're so close. We're so close to that. And I agree. I agree with what you said earlier as well.

that say, you know, the Kamala Harris, if she gets in, well, you know, podcasts like us, people that actually you want to listen to, people that you want to get your, you know, your just bounce ideas off of or, or whatever the case is, any dissenting voice will be gone. Because that's, that's the next step. I mean, Venezuela is doing that. All of these countries, I mean, look at the UK. You post some shit on the internet that they don't agree with right now. You're going to have someone come to your house.

They're going to have someone come to your house and arrest you and charge you. you're going to be in jail as a thought crime. Oh, I listen to this podcast where I posted this or I retweeted that thought crime going to jail. That is not the world we freaking live in. God gives us our rights. Regardless of whatever your religion is, God gives us our human rights. And yet these governments want to be authoritarian gods. That's what they want.

They want to be the God in your life. And that's that. They want to control your thought. Yeah. Your belief. like the Harris waltz just sent out an email have you seen that floating around x right now i've seen it i have not uh talked about yeah i got it right in front of me so it's it's going to be trending right uh it says right now elan musk is interviewing donald trump live on twitter we're not

calling it x uh it's not enough that musk has pledged to donate millions of dollars to help reelect trump he's using his purchased platform one of the largest social media sites in the world to spread Trump's unhinged and hateful agenda to millions of user. Highlight and Blue. If that's all you need to hear, chip in 25 now to help Camilla and Tim give the resources to respond to their lies. But more time. Otherwise, let us remind you why this is a big deal. If you have to be reminded why this is a big deal during an election, you, my friend, are retarded.

The richest person in the world is a lack of. for team maga musk already ruined twitter by allowing hate speech and disinformation to flood the platform now musk is using his vast fortune in broad reach to try to control our democracy oh that's so funny and you know what the funnier thing about it is is like i've actually seen less I mean, I don't get me wrong. I mean, you do see disinformation, I guess, on X, but it's pretty apparent pretty quickly. You know, it's, it's one of those things. You can decipher because, hey, guess what?

We have brains. I posted this on not X, but I posted on our Facebook. And I also post the owner Telegram where, you know, have you saw the ad for a brain? It's like, and it talks about if you want a brain, talk to your doctor about a brain. It has side effects include, whatever. And it's hilarious. shit and it's so true because like if you have a brain just decipher what it is that you want you know like what is the truth and what is not and it goes without saying i mean if you look at

the um the x platform number one i mean like brian crassantine and ed crassantine they're literally on video on recording there are two of the biggest leftist accounts on x and they're on recording saying that, well, hey, guys, yeah, we get, this is what I remember anyway. Yeah, we get paid to sow disinformation, or not disinformation, but so divide. We get paid by the Democrats. They say it on video. It was an undercover video. And they're two of the, yet, yet they're two of the biggest left accounts on X.

And so there's no question that almost everyone has seen this video, because it has been shared a million different times on X. I mean, not everybody has seen this, but a lot of people have seen this. And yet people still look and listen to these dumb ass people, spew these bullshit talking points about things that are just asinine and ridiculous. And yet I do think there is a large bot presence with the support for Kamala or the left on social media and especially on X. And I still don't know that Elon has got a hold of that. I know for sure that happens on YouTube and all that.

And, you know, keeping in mind when YouTube remove the dislike button on YouTube, that was because of the Biden administration, I believe, because it wasn't until almost every one of the White House's videos under the Biden administration after 2020. And then any Biden video that came out, there were like 75% more dislikes than likes on those videos. It was awesome. I love that. So then I love watching So YouTube removed them.

Like 300 thumbs up and 5,000 dislikes. Yeah. So YouTube removed the dislikes. And ever since then, they have been gone. And that is because of the Biden administration. This is how hard the deep state left wing mainstream state controlled media is trying to control the conversation and the narrative in your mind. And so when we talk and we, we've had episodes. before about the mockingbird media

guys we're in a we're in a far crazier time than mockingbird media far crazier is it's like so blatant now but they're still able to do it because I guess there's still enough dumb ass people out there that believe it you don't even need some type of weird undercover sciop even though they still

kind of have it but they're so blatant with how dumb people are I think they've I don't know I think they just realize well shit there's just a lot of dumb people out there so I don't think we even got to be that secretive anymore. We can just, we can just kind of be apparently dumb and still get the votes. All we need is some,

some rappers twerking on the stage and, you know, some photos of a plane and a bunch of people with Kamala Harris signs. We will win. As long as they have the software, the votes don't matter. They just have to give the illusion that it is plausible that she could get 50.7% of the vote.

Absolutely. I agree with that. that. I agree with that. But listen, guys, it has been a long, long episode. I still get to edit, because we're going to edit some of our intro out, not intro, but, you know, towards the end of when we're waiting on Trump, because it did take quite a while for him to actually talk. And then the actual interview is freaking pretty long. So, Dave, thank you so much for coming on. We do appreciate you coming on and checking us out. And guys, Dave is from Alien Addict. I always encourage everybody to listen to Alien Addict. I think they're a great, great podcast.

and they're doing a lot of good things. I think you guys are released some more episodes too now, right? I mean, I'm seeing a lot of episodes being released. Yeah, we're trying to. We're trying to figure out the algorithm. I got to. And so people can find you on Spotify. I would all, most of our listeners know you guys are on Spotify.

Go check out Alien Addict. They talk about a lot of cool stuff. All you got to do is just type it in after you get done, listen to this, type an alien addict. And you'll find Dave on there quite often. He's not on every episode, but he's on a lot. and we'll definitely have Dave back on in the future. We also have some exciting news coming up very soon as well as far as some things we're kind of working on maybe a couple deals that we might have with some other platforms.

We're just trying to kind of work it out, but we will let you guys know as that happens. Some very exciting news. And we're also working on a couple special projects for this podcast audio. And we're going to try it out. It's going to be professionally produced, especially as we're coming. into kind of the fall winter season things are starting to get spooky i think we're going to start talking about some really spooky stuff so some some spooky shit some some stories out there that some are popular some are not as popular but we want to tell the story in a good way that you guys

can listen almost like a movie but it's audio and um we're excited about that as well but uh dave where can they find you you what is your account on x that people can go for mine is conspiracy mother ship. That is the L Dave temporarily. I'm just kind of has a placeholder. That's it. Yeah. I'm renting it kind of.

Cool. I got you. And then as I said, go listen to Alien addict. And if you want to find us, we're constantly posting on X. Go follow us on our X account. We also have Facebook,

Instagram and all basically other social media. We also have a telegram channel where we all talk about everything in there. There's a lot of people over there that people chat on a regular basis. Go check us out on Telegram. And I guess. I got to pull up the song. I want to probably end with the same song we started with, which is Hero by Surfer Girl. I don't think I mentioned who the actual song was in the beginning of the show, but it is

hero by Surfer Girl because I think it is fitting for what we have witnessed tonight, which is history. According to Dave and I believe the exact same thing. I think it is history. You have a presidential candidate going on a platform that was bought for billions of dollars by a billionaire in the United States, which is also a general. genius. It's kind of weird. It's kind of a weird scenario how that shit happens. But nonetheless, it's pretty cool. And so, uh, so we'll see. We're going to see what happens in 24. Dave, thank you again for coming on. Thank you. All right, guys, peace out. Until next time,

this is Hero by Surfer Girl. Sherry says by as well. Peace out. is smiling thunderstorms and locusts let's not resort to violence jewelry stores are closing with the pressure forming diamonds it's a tough pill to swallow tough fact to follow I sip it I sip to dash she go hollow into tomorrow but lead is a hero

it is a hero The crisis and people and let it's a row cities is crazy but I have no control so we smoking that she's thinking you want to flow Sell up and give in physical look inside I am as every other guy Money is power but that shit is mind The system is smoking it's open on both devices

Hard to stay afloat with rising tides and rising prices When the first world nation has an identity crisis We have to come together but you'd rather be divisive We were on the straight and narrow Now it's far when there rose Difting goals you think you owe the title of the fair row Collegular and hero Compassionable zero

But I and so all we need is a hero It is a hero Grab your life in the shit And you're sticking in the change come from The rest of the people are let us unroll. We say this is crazy behind my control. So we smoke in that shit they get you on the flow. Celebrate in person for look inside.

I am the same as every other guy. Money is power, but that shit is learning the system is broken.