Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Epstein Files December Release | Bombshell or Bust?

Episode Date: December 23, 2025

The Epstein files were finally released, or at least that’s what we’re being told. But the more people dig into what was actually made public, the more obvious it becomes that this wasn’t transparency, it was a controlled leak. Names are still redacted. Documents are missing. Timelines don’t line up. And once again, the most powerful figures connected to Jeffrey Epstein seem to remain just out of reach. The question isn’t whether files were released, it’s why so much is still being withheld. Tonight, we’re going to talk about what didn’t come out, and why that matters. Was this about protecting ongoing investigations, or protecting reputations? Was this damage control, political insulation, or something even bigger? When the crime touches intelligence agencies, global elites, and untouchable institutions, the truth rarely comes out clean. So we’re going to speculate, connect dots, and ask the uncomfortable questions the media still won’t. Because if this was the full truth, they wouldn’t still be hiding so much.Visit our merchandise store here

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My beautiful wife Sherry On tonight's episode The Epstein Files were finally released Or at least that's what

were being told But the more people that dig into this what was actually made public, the more obvious it becomes that this wasn't transparency. It was a controlled leak. And names are still redacted. Documents are missing timelines don't add up.

And once again, the most powerful figures connected to Jeffrey Epstein seemed to remain just out of reach. And the question is that whether files are released, it's why so much is still being withheld. And we're going to talk about what didn't come out, why that matters. Was this about protecting ongoing investigations or protecting reputations? Was this damage control, political insulation, or something even bigger? And when the crime touches intelligence agencies, global elites, and untouchable institutions, the truth rarely comes out clean. Guys, welcome to the show.

It is December the 22nd, 2025. The name of this song is Rumors by Daxton. We are just a few days away from Christmas. And we do not know if we're going to have another episode until Christmas after this one. We may have one on Christmas Eve where we're not going to talk about pedophiles or Epstein or anything else. Yeah, I told Chad, we need to talk about the Christmas. Christmas story, the story of Jesus being born. Yeah, for sure.

I think it would be fun to read the Bible on the podcast and actually read the story of Jesus's birth. Yeah, anybody that wants to, you know, be a part of that, we may do that Wednesday. It just all depends. We are so behind on Christmas. We're so behind on a lot of stuff right now. But we did have to talk about this tonight because obviously just a few days ago on Friday, the DOJ had a deadline. They must release everything they had as unredacted as possible. if they did redact certain sections, it was in the actual runoff petition, or not runoff

petition, but the discharge petition that says you must clearly explain why there are sections that are redacted if you do redact them. Obviously, we know that they have to redact things such as victim names and all of this, but the reality of this is there were hundreds of pages that were released that were completely blacked out. And not only that, like how many files did they actually release? We're going to get into all of that because it was a lot of files. that they have not released.

Some people are saying that they probably only release 5 to 10% of what they actually have. And I actually asked Grock, I said, you know, according to what you know, how many gigabytes is actually out there versus what was released. Grock is also somewhat confirming this. We'll get into all of that on this show.

I know so many of you all the time reach out to us and you constantly say like, why are you guys not covering Epstein? We've covered Epstein probably 30 or 40 episodes. I would say over the past four, five years. And it's just something that we have to talk about tonight because yet again, we feel like the government is covering up stuff. They're covering up and protecting the elites or institutions or intelligence agencies or countries. A lot of people, obviously, we get so many

messages that, you know, there's one side of the fence that's like, oh, you know why you're not talking about Epstein is because you're trying to hide Donald Trump's involvement or blah, blah, And I don't even understand like how people would question us on that anymore because we criticize any and everybody that we need to criticize. Once we have evidence of Trump being involved, if he is, obviously we're going to be talking about that. Or some of these redactions or a lot of these redactions because Trump was involved, we don't know. We don't know. But what we do know is that this was a massive sex trafficking ring. This was a pedophilia ring.

And this is not a pedophilia ring that Jeffrey Epstein himself, along with Gisland Maxwell, decided to do on their own free will. I think this was a setup. I think this was a blackmail operation from not only U.S. but also foreign intelligence. I think that's why when they talk about some of the things they can't release is due to national security. And so what would that mean?

Obviously, they're not trying to protect the victims there. They're trying to protect national security. What does that mean? Well, likely it means that they're trying to protect intelligence secrets. They're trying to protect maybe working or close involvement with other intelligence organizations or agencies. All of this is just one giant cluster. And it's just the more the Trump administration continues to botch this release of the Epstein

files, the more they talk about it, the more people just lose all credibility in Pam Bondi, in Cash Patel. And yes, also even in Trump. You know, I've talked so much, obviously, before Trump's actual running for president in 24. And there were so many people that said, look, we have to have Trump in. We have to have someone like Trump in to save America. We need to make America great again, especially after that four years we went through with Biden and Harris, where you didn't actually know who was president.

You didn't know who was running the country. So many people saw Trump as this big strong figure because of all the shit he talks on social media and all the ways that he is kind of visceral in a lot of his responses, especially to the media. He's not afraid to go out in front of the media and clap back at them just like they clap at him. And so a lot of people took Trump as a strong individual, a very rich person, a very successful person, a very successful family. He gained a lot of people's trust. And then obviously after the assassination attempt, it was just almost like a done deal for Trump to come in and basically take everything. And that's what the Republicans did. They took the House, the Senate.

They won all of the swing states. Everyone expected that this was going to be a new and improved version of our U.S. government. and the White House, and yet so many people right now feel completely let down by the handling of this. It's almost like Pam Bondi, Cash Patel, and even Trump, are insulting people's intelligence. You know, the way that they talk to reporters, especially when the reporters are asking the same questions that all of us are about Epstein's involvement, was he connected to intelligence? How many kids did he traffic to who? And when your president of the United States, you voted for is calling this a hoax and that anyone that continues, to talk about this, just might as well leave MAGA.

You're not MAGA worthy if you're going to keep asking questions about Epstein. I think it has really pushed a lot of people back from the Trump administration. I think it has lost a lot of people's confidence in our government. Just, I mean, as if we, you know, did we really need more lack of trust from the American public after the Biden Harris, after COVID, after everything we've witnessed? And yet, here we are. It's like they keep doubling down. They keep trying to prove to you why the U.S. government is not trustworthy, how they do lie to you on a regular everyday basis.

Well, all this has shown me is in past history. This is all that any governments do to their people to any country. You know, Russia does it. China does it. Israel does it. There's not one country that I feel like does not have a corrupt government in it. And they use the same intelligence playbook and they just change it. around to control and influence people into blackmail.

Yeah. And then they use people like Epstein. The intelligence uses people like Epstein. Our intelligence also has help from other intelligence agencies or I guess you can say their allies. I mean, this is all a part of this master plan. And unfortunately, you know, when Biden was president and, you know, we had all these people that were coming through our border on a regular basis, millions of people coming across

our border. we also obviously found out that during that time there were over 300,000 kids that went missing. Kids from all around the world that we have still no idea where these kids are. Now, the Trump administration and Cashmattel has said that they have recovered some of those kids. We don't know the exact number. We don't even know if that's necessarily true. You would think they would have a huge press conference on this and be talking about how they did this and how who they found and how many kids they found. We haven't really got that.

What we have got is a lot of bragging and a lot of saying, hey, yeah, we've recovered a lot of these kids. but like why were there 300 plus thousand kids that were missing to begin with? Why was the Biden administration actually facilitating a lot of the trafficking of these children in buses or airplanes to various, I believe, handlers across the country, whether it was in California or New York. A lot of these kids had no idea where they were going. They did have, however, people waiting on them in the United States once they crossed the border. And so the amount of money, probably that the cartels and the actual major sex traffickers in foreign nations, nations made on sending children across the border and making sure that the coyotes, as they call them, made sure they got to the border.

And then the Biden administration did the rest of the work. They said, well, we'll send the kids wherever they need to go. Yeah, whatever is taped on their little shirt, the address they put on them where we're not even going to look at who these people are. We're just going to send them there. Yeah, exactly. And it wasn't just that. I mean, some of them had like hand tattoos, actually.

There were some that literally tattooed addresses that had gotten tattoos, whether it be in Mexico or wherever they came from. of the address. That's how important these kids were to get to these addresses to where they had tattoos on some of these children, as young as three and four and five years old. So we also know that there had been whistleblowers during the Biden administration that came out and said that a lot of these kids actually showed signs of rape along the way already. Yeah. On the way over to America, they were being raped. A lot of these kids that came across our border, most of them did not come actually with their families. A lot of the mothers or the parents of these kids were paid

whatever amount of money to take these kids from their parents. You've got to ask yourself, well, how would these coyotes, how would these cartels or whoever was involved in this, how would they be able to afford all of these kids, 300 plus thousand kids that they were paying for, that they were then sending across the board. Why were they paying for these kids? Because the amount of money these kids were worth in America, to whoever they were trafficking them too, which likely was some also backed intelligence operation, I would not doubt. That's how they got the money.

You know, intelligence will give any amount of money. And if you think Epstein is the last guy that's ever going to do a blackmail operation on young girls or child sex trafficking, you're wrong. I'm sure there are many people like Epstein still out there to this day that we'll probably also never find out about. We're already seeing this is kind of how this goes. So let's break it down just kind of in a 50,000 foot view so far of the consensus of the Epstein file. So this dropped December 19, 2025 from the U.S. Department of Justice under the Trump administration. And it was less than transparent.

And it was more like a redaction theater on steroids. I mean, this is, we almost never seen some of the stuff redacted like we've seen in the Epstein files. And so we're going to break all of this down. What actually came out? What's still buried six feet under the ground? Who's botched this mess? Who appears to be protecting who?

And the theories that are kind of lighting up the internet like a freaking Christmas tree right here before Christmas. I mean, this is what's happening. What did we actually get on the 19? So there were thousands of pages, emails, internal memos, forensic reports, witness statements, and a batch of photographs pulled from the various federal investigations into the Epstein trafficking network. And we're talking grim victim testimonies, detail in recruitment chains, images of Epstein posing with high profile figures, and documentation going all the way back to complaints filed in 1990s,

that the FBI apparently ignored. We'll get to that in just a little bit. Bill Clinton features heavily multiple photos including one of him in a hot tub with a redacted young woman and another with someone sitting on his lap. Now references to him repeated on flight logs the Lollila Express are scattered throughout other names and faces that surface include Michael Jackson, Chris Tucker, Richard Branson, even a book by Donald Trump sitting on Epstein's shelf. It's pretty ugly. It's confirming of a lot of what we've been suspecting and it also shows Epstein didn't operate alone. he had a Rolodex full of enablers in elite circles on his desk at all times. He also had many pictures always with him in almost every single one of his properties.

But the real story begins where the release was a fraction of what was promised. And it was botched from the very jump. The DOJ admitted they couldn't meet the full deadline set by the Epstein Files Transparency Act, which is the very law President Trump signed just last month, mandating everything pretty much to come out except child exploitation, material and protected victim identities, but they also wanted to make public by December 19th everything else. They dumped a partial batch on Friday, made some corrections on Saturday, but then, you know, poof, over a dozen files including photographs involving Trump

mysteriously disappeared from the public web page with no explanations. Some were quietly reposted later, unchanged, hundreds of additional pages remain fully redacted, grand jury materials are shielded, full flight logs are nowhere to be found, and deep financial connections of figures like Les Wexner or Bill Gates barely even get a mention in any of these files. Now, Survivors, we've been talking about the survivors for quite a while. They are rightfully furious. A coalition of Epstein accusers called it an abnormally and extremely redacted sham that exposed some victim information by mistake while hiding far more.

Now, we actually also talked about this. It was probably about a month ago when they started releasing some of these files. Somehow, victim names and pictures and all this stuff were actually. accidentally leaked. And so then there was a lower court judge or a federal judge that actually came through. They are working right now on trying to stop the full release or any release any further of any of these files because it violated the Victim Act, right? So what we had talked about on one of the other episodes, it seems like they intentionally release victims' names and they intentionally release victims' photos and faces so that this would happen. So that then a judge or a

victim or a lawyer, whoever, would come along and say, oh, nope, you violated this. So we're going to stop the full release and then to hold it up in court until probably Trump gets out of office. That's likely what's going to come. That's why this slow release is happening. They're waiting on the courts to actually make a ruling and say that nothing else is going to be released because you violated this until we can do something. And then it's going to be held up in court for God knows how long.

So this isn't just sloppy. It's a direct violation of the transparency law. Lawmakers on both sides, including those who are. sponsored a bill like Rocana and Thomas Massey are now threatening contempt charges against attorney Pam Bondi and her deputy for failing to deliver. Victims say that they're ready to name

names themselves if the government will not do it. We've talked about that many times. And then that brings us to the burning question. Like who is this and who are they protecting? And so look at the pattern. Clinton's name and image are everywhere in this drop. Almost like they're tossing him under the bus for optics. They don't, you know, they're saying,

hey, look here, guys. This is Clinton. This is what you want, MAGA. This is exactly what you So like, why do we need to release anything else? We got Clinton, although he'll also never be arrested, I guarantee you. But Trump mentions, no. There's like nothing that mentions Trump. But we also know there are hundreds and hundreds of files that are completely redacted. Now, there are a couple of old photos on a bookshelf.

And there's a check with his name, nothing criminating and nothing new, but it does mention or show Trump in a couple of photos that they have released. Critics are pointing out that under the Trump DOJ, Republican-connected names and seem conspicuously light, while Mark Epstein has gone public claiming sources told him files are being scrubbed of certain GOPA figures at a Virginia facility. Others argue deep state holdovers are still shielding Democrats. And the truth is probably uglier. This looks like the same bipartisan elite protection racket we've seen for decades as the powerful on both sides, politicians, billionaires, possibly intelligence assets, had skin

in Epstein's game and not one of the uptop wants a full picture out. Nobody at the top wants this whole story. thing to be seen. And so obviously the theories are everywhere. Some say this is partial chaotic release is deliberate. It's a distraction from bigger global moves happening right now. Other see it as kind of a controlled burn, leak enough to look transparent while kind of burying the parts that could bring down major players.

And then you also have a few voices, even tie it to emerging victims coming forward last minute, forcing delays. But the bottom line is this all remains. If everyone involved is as clean as they claim, then why is all these games? happening. Why is all the redactions? Why are they releasing 10% of these files? Why are the files vanishing? And then, you know, you think about if you release files that 118 pages are completely blacked out. What is that even about? So it literally looks like the pages, if you look at them, it looks like they have sticky notes on top, like square sticky notes on the pages all over it.

There's not, there's like two little words that are showing on each page. And that is it. Yeah. And I, and I think what, you know, in these in these large file dumps, you know, especially when there's 118 pages here and this many pages there of full redactions, they don't even want you to see sentences that could even possibly link to something, right? So they want to make sure whoever and whatever they're protecting, we got to make sure, guys, that we do not let anybody even draw any conclusions about what might be said here. Okay. So there was also a file, which we'll get into in just a little bit about there. Trump was actually mentioned by a witness in a case.

It was in a grand jury hearing. And, you know, this was from her mouth. So we don't know for a positive that it was true. She did actually tell, I think it was a New York Times reporter about all of this. It came out that Trump was in Epstein's apartment in New York or Epstein's, I guess you can say penthouse in New York. And there was a time where Trump did actually have, you know, dealings with somebody that Epstein had there at the house.

This is from the witness mouth. Now, the interesting thing about this is this was released at one point in time, very briefly. And then in this new file release, what the DOJ just released, this same file that talks about Trump and what the witness said in the actual grand jury hearing is all redacted. Yeah. It's all redacted. But it came out before.

So that's so crazy. Like, it's almost like they made this mistake. Oh, we published it a couple of years ago. And we forgot we published it. So we better redact it. Like, I almost think. I think it was a mistake on their part. Because why would you redact it when it was not redacted before?

It was, well, what it is, is a system to where someone has said any mention of Trump's name just automatically redact. And I'm sure they put it through some system, you know, obviously you know how AI is. They could easily do that now to where it says any mention of Trump, make sure you redact or any mention of this person, make sure you redact. And it's not just Trump. It's just, I'm just telling you, in the new release, that same file that came out talking about the victim's story about what she experienced with Trump and Epstein at the New York

Penhouse is now completely redacted in this new release. Right. So what that tells you, though, is that the mandate on any files being released is to redact any and all mention of Trump's name. But I just wonder, has anyone really truly put their eyes on these files like a human being and read all of them? Are they just putting them through like mechanics like AI and having them do all the work? Has someone sat down and read the files themselves?

Well, yeah. I mean, there's like human being. There's obviously been, you know, these mainstream media outlets that want desperately to destroy Trump or whatever that's been reading through all of them. And that's, you know, that's why a lot of these news agencies are coming out. I mean, not, I'm talking about the ones that are not redacted. I know. Yes, that's what I'm saying. You don't think they have reporters on this 24-7 right now.

They're reading through everything. And they're also getting assistance from AI. They're doing anything they can. But that's also why the Trump administration is going to make sure that any mention of his name or his, maybe the people he's protecting or the intelligence of protecting, all of that stuff's going to be redacted. That's just, unfortunately, the way this is going. And what does this tell us?

It tells us a lot. But I want to get into this quick clip. And this guy actually does a pretty good job at kind of breaking some stuff down. And the way he breaks it down, he puts it in a decent timeline. But we're going to break in and out of this clip quite a bit because I'm going to elaborate on each thing that he's talking about because, you know, there are clips like this coming out where it's trying to say here's what actually happened here's what happened we're going to kind of break through and say what's BS and what isn't like what is true is all

of this stuff true because um you know even with this one clip this clip has uh 300,000 views in one place two or three million views in another and so a lot of people are seeing this and we just have to talk about whether or not these points are true so let's go ahead and start with this clip we'll be breaking in and out a lot uh but I just want to kind of elaborate and explain more on what he's actually talking about here. All right. So the Epstein files were supposed to be released this past Friday, but of course the government continues to try to cover for Epstein's clients.

So we only got reportedly 1% of the total files and 80% to 90% of the documents and pictures they released were redacted or were publicly available already. So we probably got less than one tenth of a percent of the Epstein files, but still this release had some disturbing stuff in it. And this proves there's a lot of evidence they have in their possession that they obviously don't want out there. So it must be really bad. You know, if this is what we're allowed to see, I can't imagine what they're trying to hide. So what he's talking about here is how many files have actually been released?

We get to talk about that because this does matter, right? So based on recent releases under the Epstein Transparency Act, the full disclosure by December 19th, they were supposed to have the Department of Justice made public portions of the material available. but here's kind of the analysis. The DOJ's main release on December 19th included 3,965 pages totaling about three gigabytes of data with additional batches on December to 20th,

e.g. Grand jury materials, flight logs, and FBI testimony. Prior releases in 2025, such as those from the House Oversight Committee, which was 33,295 pages in September, and 20,000 records on November, bring the total to over 60,000 pages disclosed this year. However, the pre-release estimates of unreleased DOJ holdings, including nearly 100,000 pages plus 300 gigabytes of digital evidence from computers, drives, CDs, etc.

So I would assume these are all the videos, this is all the blackmail material, this is all the pictures. They're very incriminating stuff that you want to see. It suggests that the drops are far from comprehensive. They release three gigabytes versus 300. Victims groups and bipartisan lawmakers have criticized the process stating that the public has received only a fraction of the files. with extreme redactions, over 550 pages entirely blacked out in some documents, and at least 15 to 16 files removed from the DOJ website shortly after posting, some later restored after review.

And so this is fueled speculation, obviously, over the cover-up or selective disclosure, and this is obviously potentially violating the Act's mandate for full searchable release. Now, the public discourse on pretty much social media frequencies, sites that figures around 10% are only released, implying 90% is unreleased or inaccessible due to redactions. So for context, if we approximate based on the 300 gigabytes, total digital estimate versus the three gigabytes released in December, that alone points to roughly 1% of data volume.

But that doesn't account for all the physical pages or prior disclosure. So the effective percentage could be higher, meaning like 10 to 20% when including the 60,000 pages. So that's still, you know, 80% is still not really. released. And I just wanted to make that clear. It seems like there's still about 80% of the actual files and information videos, pictures, et cetera, not release. And as this guy says, if they're releasing, even some of the photos we're seeing where Bill Clinton is swimming with a naked Gislane Maxwell with a young girl, you have all this other weird stuff like scrapbook pictures of Jeffrey Epstein

with sayings and writings on their necks and their arms and stuff of quotes from the Lolita book, which is a pedophile book. And that's what his plane was named after. Yeah. But, you got to ask yourself like what kind of crazy shit are we not seeing, right? But it's interesting that he said that grand jury indictments were in these files. They may be in the files, but we don't see them because they were blocked out. Yeah. So they can say they released them, but we don't see anything. No, we don't.

No, they blacked out everything. And they even released a lot of pictures and images that were completely black. I mean, it's crazy that they would even do this. It's like, here's a picture. Here's like a hundred pictures. and it's just all black rectangles or squares. So they're trying to like play you dumb. That's the number one thing I just want to say.

They're trying to play us as a fool. Let's listen to some more. One of these documents that came out confirms one of Epstein's victims in the first whistleblower reported him to the FBI and NYPD in 1996 because Epstein sold pictures of her naked 12 and 16 year old sisters to his friends and then threatened to burn down her house if she tells anybody. So the authorities were alerted about this in 96, but they did nothing. And Epstein continued to go on victimizing underage girls.

And apparently he would even check girls' IDs. Okay, so I want to stop there for a second because we got to talk about that. So what he's talking about here is artist Maria Farmer, who had been employed by Jeffrey Epstein, to acquire art for him, reported him to FBI after he stole nude and partially nude photographs. She had taken of her underage sisters, age 16 and 12 at the time, for her personal artwork. Now that's weird in itself, right?

You can be an artist and like take pictures or use that for art, but like why would you be taking pictures of 16 and 12-year-olds? Yeah, it makes zero sense to me. And so Epstein had also asked her to photograph young girls at swimming pools. The complaint specifically allege

Epstein's involvement in child pornography related to these stolen images, though no videotaping or other forms of secret recordings were mentioned in a document. Note that Epstein was separately accused in later years of secretly videotaping people in his properties, but this obviously does not, this is not what we're talking about here. The FBI took no immediate action on the report, effectively ignoring it for about a decade

until Epstein's activities came under broader scrutiny. And this was leading to his 2008 plea deal in Florida for soliciting prostitution from a minor. And then a 2020 Department of Justice Internal Review of the FBI's handling of the Epstein cases made no reference at all to this 1996 complaint. and the agency did not acknowledge it to Farmer herself until a public release just the other day in December 2025. So attorneys for Epstein victims have stated that acting on the early warning could have prevented harm to hundreds of others. And so Epstein warned Maria Farmer that he would burn her house down if she declosed information about the stolen photos. And then after she and her sister Annie were separately assaulted by Epstein and Gislane Maxwell with Annie, then 16, reported inappropriate touching and a topless massage during 1996 visits.

visit to Epstein's New Mexico ranch. And then the pair allegedly threatened to ruin Maria's career and life. Maria had described living in fear and going into hiding for years following her attempts of reporting Epstein, citing ongoing harassment and intimidation tied to him and his associates. So there were his harassment, there was threats, and it's not just from Epstein. It was not only that. It was people high ups, maybe even law enforcement in some ways, threatening, intimidating. And then all of these reports went completely unnoticed or not unnoticed.

they just got ignored. And the reason for this, guys, is because even back in 1996, this was a government operation. This was when they were starting to bring Epstein into the realm. And so that's why there was nothing done about the earlier FBI report.

And then even obviously, these girls also then later got molested at Epstein's house in Florida. And I think it's also important to mention right when you stopped the recording, he was talking about he even looked at their IDs to make sure they were under age. Now, why would he want to make sure,

they were under age. Yeah, well, that's pretty easy. I mean, he wanted to make sure that they were going to be able to blackmail people. Exactly. So, yeah, according to recently released documents from the U.S. Department of Justice, which include FBI interview notes

and witness testimonies from investigations dating back to 2005 or, sorry, 2005, in 2019, there are multiple references to Epstein insisting on verifying the ages of girls brought to him to ensure they were underage. There was one set of FBI notes from a May 2019 interview with a redacted witness describes a period where recruiters were running out

of girls and Epstein became frustrated with older individuals being provided. And so the note states at one point redacted witness, him asking for ID to girls, I wanted to make sure under 18 because he wasn't believing them because redacted messed up by bringing more older girls. This occurred in the context of Epstein rejecting girls he deemed too old or not fitting his preferences, such as being thin and blonde and preferring those who were of school age. Now, the same notes mentioned Epstein paying a girl he didn't like, but instructing a recruiter to keep looking for girls, emphasizing younger ones.

Additional testimony from a 2019 New York grand jury hearing reinforces this with an FBI agent recounting how Epstein used victims to recruit others, most of whom were under 18, and rejected those who didn't meet his age criteria. And so those details emerged from the initial batch of over 23,000 documents released starting December 19, 2025 under the Epstein Files Transparency Act. And if you guys ever remember, I'm sure most of you watched the documentary about Epstein and about how they would recruit these underage girls. They would go after initially these girls that were underage and less privileged.

Maybe they had bad backgrounds. Maybe they were being abused at home. They were runaways in some cases. Right. They would recruit them and groom them. And then they would use them to go back to their schools to find more. friends to come in to recruit. And like Chad said before, he wanted to make sure that they were in high school or,

you know, younger so that he could blackmail his clients. Yeah, you're absolutely right. Now, you may ask yourself, you know, this stuff was going on in Florida back in the day, right? But when it was found out, Epstein got a sweetheart deal, right? And so it was a 2018 non-prosecution agreement that Jeffrey Epstein secured with federal prosecutors in the southern district of Florida. This is federal prosecutors. And so allowing him to avoid serious federal sex trafficking charges despite evidence of abusing dozens of underage girls. Instead, Epstein pleaded guilty in state court to two lesser charges, which was soliciting

prostitution and procuring a minor for prostitution. He was sentenced to 18 months in a Palm Beach County jail, but served only 13 months, during which he was granted extensive work release privileges allowing him to leave jail for up to 12 hours a day, six days a week, to work at his office. He also had to register as a sex defender and pay restitution. Now, here's the weird part. Here's where this kind of goes full circle. And some of you know this, some of you may not. The deal was negotiated

under then U.S. attorney Alexander Acosta, who later served as Secretary of Labor under President Trump until resigning in 2019 amid backlash of the agreement. So Trump brought Alexander Acosta in after he knew

that Acosta was the main guy that negotiated this sweetheart deal in this case. And obviously, Acosta being in Florida and, you know, knowing that Trump's obvious huge ties to Florida area. And then also, Pambani was Attorney General after the Attorney General that actually worked on this plea deal with Alexander Acosta in Florida, that Pambani became the new Attorney General in Florida.

Now Pambani is here in the White House covering up the same shit. So it's just kind of all weird, right? The deal was negotiated under a U.S. Attorney Alexander Acosta, who later served, obviously, under Labor. Acosta's office granted Epstein an unnamed co-conspirator immunity from federal prosecution, effectively shutting down an ongoing FBI investigation into broader allegations of a sex trafficking network. Critics, obviously, including victims and legal experts, called it a sweetheart deal because it was unusually lenient given the scale of the accusations.

And federal charges could have led to life in prison. And because victims were not properly notified or consulted, they said, violating the Crime Victims Rights Act, a federal judge later ruled on this in 2019. Then Acosta had defended this arrangement, arguing in 2019 and again in 2025, congressional testimony, that going to trial was risky or a crapshoot

due to potential witness credibility issues and that the deal at least guaranteed some jail time in the sex offender status rather than risking an acquittal. So what he was basically saying is, these girls are, they're risky, they're probably lying, they're doing all this shit. And then it's just crazy that Trump brought this guy in as the Secretary of Labor and until all shit went to hell when everybody figured out like how

dirty this deal was and then he resigned later on. And you have to ask yourself, how did he get this sweetheart deal? Why did he get this sweetheart deal? Because if it was anyone else, they would have been probably spending life in prison. And he got 18 months. And out of the 18 months, like they said, he was at his office, quote unquote, 12 hours a day. How does somebody get away with that? Yeah.

Well, it's called the federal government and you are there, you're, you have handlers and the government is your boss and foreign governments are your boss and you're their employee and they're like, look, dude, we got to do this. I mean, you at least got to kind of go to jail, kind of. I mean, you can stay, you know, at home for 12 hours day, just come to jail, quote unquote, at night, go to sleep and then we'll get you out of here before anybody even wakes up every single day. And that's why in my belief, I know this is bigger than Jeffrey Epsey. This is way bigger. He was just a person that they were using. And it was a huge operation. And he was their standby guy.

And he was their fall guy. And that's how he ended up getting killed in jail. Yeah, because they had no use for him anymore. Yeah, by the way, it's something we're, I want to make sure I mention this because I don't actually think I have it on the list of things to talk about. But, you know, the DOJ allegedly released Epstein in his jail cell, which keep in mind, they said his jail cell cameras were supposedly not working. That's what we've heard the entire time. And now the DOJ just yesterday, was it yesterday, two days ago, released a video of Epstein in jail or in his prison cell trying to kill himself supposedly. Now, first of all, I watched a video.

It's very short. He's sitting like on a bed. First of all, the video looks AI to me. But he's sitting on a bed. And you can't even tell what he's doing. But they're trying to tell you that this was when he was trying to kill himself or like the first time or another time. I don't think it was necessarily the video of when he actually quote unquote killed himself, but they were trying to say that this was another time that he was sitting there trying to kill himself,

although you absolutely cannot tell what he's doing. And to me, this video doesn't even look like him. And thirdly, it looks fake. It looks like his AI. Well, in fourth, he was on suicide watch and he should have been watched 24-7 by guards. And if they saw them piddling around with something, they should have took it away from him. Yeah. Well, I mean, but the thing is, when you're on suicide watch, you can't just piddle around with stuff.

You know, that's that's first and foremost. And then, you know, the other thing is like if you're on suicide watch and just miraculously, the cameras, the night you quote unquote kill yourself just don't work. You know, that's astonishing to me. And it's just like, I just can't believe that they think people actually believe this. And with him being a high profile in me, I would think they would have direct eyes on them, not just a camera. That's just my opinion. For sure. All right.

I backed it up just a little bit. because we were talking about the underage girl thing. He wanted to check IDs, but here it is. We're alerted about this in 96, but they did nothing, and Epstein continued to go on victimizing underage girls. And apparently he would even check girls' IDs to make sure that they were underage. Also, some of the pictures that were released

that Epstein had framed in his house were with him and children on his private jet, the Lolita Express, which is a reference to a book Epstein was obsessed with about a petal who's attracted to a... Apparently, he would even check girls IDs to make sure that they were underage. Also, some of the pictures that were released that Epstein had framed in his house were with him and children on his private jet, the Lolita Express, which is a reference to a book Epstein

was obsessed with about a pet file who's attracted to a 12-year-old. And Epstein would write quotes from this book on his victims. And he also kept this really creepy scrapbook with pictures of them. And the quotes are talking about how little they are and how little they look. And some of this stuff is just so bizarre. I don't know how to describe it. But there's also this picture that was released where it looks like Epstein is dropping off a young girl to meet with some old guy with his shirt off.

And they left him unredacted, surprisingly. And there's also this text message that was released by the House Oversight Committee that was part of the files where someone is talking about sending over girls in the price and they give her measurements, height, and weight. It definitely sounds like trafficking. but if you remember the director of the FBI, Cash Patel, said there's no credible evidence of trafficking in the files. Okay, so what he's referring to here is when Cash Patel was in front of Congress and people were asking them questions. And this is what Cash Patel had to say about there's no evidence, basically, that any of this and what you're saying is true whatsoever.

You've seen most of the files. Who, if anyone, did Epstein traffic these young women too? besides himself. Himself, there is no credible information. None. If there were, I would bring the case yesterday that he trafficked to other individuals. And the information we have, again, is limited. So the answer is no one?

For the information that we have. In the files. In the case file. Liar. See, and that's why, obviously, Cash Patel, he has lost 100% all credibility. Yeah. And Kennedy here, he knows he's a lie. too. Yeah. And of course, Thomas Massey, this was a follow-up after Cash Patel says there's no credible

evidence that he was trafficking to anyone. And this is what Thomas Massey had to say about that. Listen, you replied, according to the transcript, there is no credible information that he trafficked them to anyone else. According to victims who cooperated with the FBI in that investigation, These documents in FBI possession, your possession, detail at least 20 men, including Mr. Jess Staley, CEO of Barclays Bank, who Jeffrey Epstein trafficked victims to. That list also includes at least 19 other individuals, one Hollywood producer worth a few hundred million dollars, one royal prince, one high-profile individual in the music industry, one very prominent banker, one high-profile government official, one high-profile former. politician, one owner of a car company in Italy, one rock star, one magician, at least six billionaires, including a billionaire from Canada. So there you go.

That was Thomas Massey, obviously calling out Cash Patel and saying you're a liar because this is an FBI possession. You know this. I mean, if Thomas Massey knows it, we all know this. We've heard all of this stuff before. And give you to mind, Cashberte tells the guy that went on all the podcast saying, oh, he's seen this stuff before he ever even, he ever even got in the FBI. now all of a sudden you don't see anything.

Like you knew more before you were an FBI FBI director than you know as an FBI director. Isn't that strange? It is very strange. And when he was talking about the magician, we all know the magician was now because we did see that photo. It was David Copperfield. Yeah, that's crazy. I actually had not seen the David Copperfield photo. But, I mean, that's wild.

I've not seen that. Yeah, it was a photo with him, Jislene, and Jeffrey. And they were all in white robes. and David Copperfield had his leg like wrapped around disling. Hmm, that's interesting. Yeah, I mean, but does that, I guess, prove necessarily that he was pedophile? But like I said, with all the stuff that has already came out, it's like anybody that was around Epstein long enough, there's no way they could not have known what he was involved

in, what he was doing. There's just no way. But whatever. Here's some more of the video. Before he was at the FBI, he was talking about how the FBI needs to release all the files and prosecute the clients. But now that he's there, he's covering. for them. And that's the same thing with a lot of people. Like, they have no credibility anymore.

And they just want this to go away so badly. Because they obviously know how bad the files look. You know, they're so desperate and they just cannot shake it. And it seems like everything they do just makes things worse. First with the binder stun, then Cash Patel on Rogan, then the DOJ memo concluding basically there are no files. And then Trump calling it a hoax. That's where people just lost it. So Trump's administration had to do damage control. You know, they started calling every influencer to beg them to stop talking about the files or to get them to do damage control. Like Alex Jones admitted he got a call. He said Trump's administration called him and asked him what it would take to get him to shut up about

it. Then also Tim Dillon, he didn't just get a call. He got a free seafood dinner with J.D. Vance. So you could tell these people are just so desperate. They're trying to do anything they can to get people to slow down and stop talking about the Epstein files and stop pushing for the release. I had dinner last week with the vice president. He told me they do not have videos of any.

any powerful person in a compromising position, that's the party line that they're going with. And I can tell you a lot more. I mean, I've, you know, I've had the White House call up and be like, last week, what do you want? Yeah. I'm like, oh, you think I'm doing all this just to get something. I've never asked for anything.

I want you to do what you were elected to do. Yeah. So it went from, you're bad. We're going to have our influencers attack you two weeks ago to what do you want. Yeah. Well, they wanted to go away. They want this to go away. And then beyond that, Tim Dillon also said something because, you know, Tim Dillon was a pretty big figure.

He had been on, you know, Joe Rogan so many times. And, you know, his podcast was starting to really get big, especially this year and the end of last year. And so Tim Dillon has been one of those voices that's not really political, but he talks about stuff. You know, he was, he was someone that kind of was, like, pretty supportive of Trump leading up to the 2024 election. I think there was a lot of people like Tim Dillon that was like, hey, we're going to support Trump, we got to do this because we want America back. We want America to just be normal.

But then Tim Dillon actually said this on his podcast in July of 2025, where he questioned, like, who's really behind this? Is Trump actually scared to release this because he fears for his own life? We'll talk about that, but listen to the clip. I think Trump knows they'll kill him. I think Trump knows that they'll kill him.

I think he does. truly, I believe he knows that. I believe he knows that the people that killed all of those people would find a way to kill him if this came out. I believe that he knows that. I believe he believes that some faction of those people tried to kill him already. Don't quite know who, but I believe that is what he believes. I don't know that. I don't have any information on that.

You know, like, I can't tell you, like, it's not like a guy, like I call, like someone told me that. I don't know what else evidence-wise you would need. I think Trump likes living. I don't think, I think he's got a lot of good things about him. some bad things, but I don't know that he's a selfless hero. I don't know if you look at his life. I mean, yes, he's done a lot. You know, Bannon talks about, you know, the hero's journey or whatever, pumping the fist.

All that's incredibly impressive. I don't know if he's dying for this. I don't know if he's dying to drop a dime on everybody. I can't. Now, there's financial reasons. He probably doesn't want it out and there's business deals and there's the future. but you've got to remember, let's go back to the very real reality of the people that fuck with this die. They're gone.

And I don't think that's lost on Trump. Again, this is my theory. My show is my theories. You don't think they're interesting. You don't have to listen. And maybe you think they're entertaining and I'm wrong. But do you think it doesn't cross his mind that all these people have died? You think that doesn't enter into his mind?

Someone's killing someone. Someone's killing. I mean, all these people are dying. It seems weird. Somebody's getting killed somehow with this case. And that's not lost on him. I don't think he doubts that if he were to do something here that would, complicate the level of people we're talking about his life might prematurely end, might not.

But it's certainly a possibility. It's on the table. The other thing that's on the table that the media is now running with, bless their heart, is that nothing happened. That's actually a theory that Epstein was like a creep. And Trump even said, this creep. A creep is a guy. that goes up to a woman at a bar and goes, how's your husband? I'm a big fan of that guy. That's a creep.

A creep is not a guy that imports a 14-year-old from the Balkans to be raped in America by a billionaire. That's not a creep. That's an evil monster. Yeah, he's right. But I do have my theories on that as well. Go ahead, Sharon. Tim Dillon, I just want to say that Trump came out and said,

we have to protect the people, not the victims, but the other people. He came out and said, we must protect the people talking about the people that were raping these children. He said it himself. And maybe you are right, Tim Dillon, that he was protecting the people because he doesn't want to be shot and killed. And they have tried several times. And they have not been successful with that yet.

But they could be one day if he does not. keep these files from being seen by other people. Too, like the fact that J.D. Vance met with Tim Dillon for dinner and basically tried to convince him that, you know, nothing's happening here. Don't worry about it. It's no big deal. And it was also interesting how Tim Dillon says, no one's told me this necessarily. You know, it was like it was almost like someone kind of behind the scenes somewhere told him that Trump's in fear of his life. And is that just some kind of, you know, manipulation tactic? you know, but also obviously, if Trump was involved in this, then he's implicated at the very

least. But if he's not involved, then obviously he does know the real risk that this carries. I don't know even that Trump really truly maybe even knows who's behind it completely. Like who is behind the actual mass blackmail operation of Jeffrey Epstein? Like who are the actual real elitist and players behind the scenes? Is it the CIA? Is it Mossad? And I think there's a lot of stuff that definitely points back to Mossad.

and CIA, which we'll get to in just a moment, especially about, you know, we know for sure that Epstein was linked to the CIA. We know for sure that he had ties and links with Mossad. And so all of these things are not, you know, they're not theories. They're not conspiracy theories. Yeah, but these governments had benefits to what he was doing. It was a win-win situation for these government agencies. Yeah, absolutely. So listen to a few more minutes of this. They're clearly panicking over the fallout from the DOJ memo, you know, sending the vice president to meet with a comedian podcaster. Like, they must have been so worried about this.

Also, it's ironic J.D. Vance wants us to go away because just a few years ago, he said, what possible interest would the U.S. government have in keeping the Epstein client secret? And if you're a journalist and you're not asking questions about this case, you should be ashamed of yourself. What purpose do you even serve? Maybe try doing your job once in a while. But of course, now he's done a complete 180 and he wants journalists to just shut up about

it. And he's helping keep the files hidden. I wonder why. You know, he's trying to protect the clients, I guess. But even with all the damage control they're doing, it doesn't seem to be working. I mean, it seems like they're trying to release just enough to make people happy. But it only seems to make things worse. I think with this recent files drop, they're hoping the pictures of Bill Clinton would placate

Trump's base and maybe get Democrats to shut up. You know, because, of course, there are a bunch of pictures of him in the release. As expected, I think everybody knows this guy's a creep. And most people want to see him prosecuted. But we know it'll probably never happen. We've been hearing this for such a long time. It's so funny, people are still like, oh, shit, we caught Bill Clinton. This is it.

It's over for him. But everybody knows this is going to lead to nothing. It's pathetic. I mean, we've been waiting for Pam Bondi to prosecute Epstein clients. And if Bill Clinton's one of them and if he's a pedophile, then go after him. But of course, it's never going to happen because it's one big club and Bill Clinton's in it. And I'm sure if he goes down, everyone goes down with him. Because if that weren't the case, I think they would have thrown him under the bus right away.

It would have satisfied a lot of Trump's fans. And it seems like that might be kind of what they're trying to do now, but it's too little too late. And I don't think Pam Bonnie will ever prosecute him. But they're clearly throwing these pictures out there to try to satisfy Trump fans for a little. You know, it's like just tossing out some breadcrumbs to try to keep people happy while they try to cover up everything else, including Bill Clinton's involvement. You know, they literally release these pictures. So they don't have to release them or damning evidence. I mean, you'll see people post these pictures and act like, whoa, it's not looking good for Bill.

Even the press secretary retweeted the picture and is like, oh, my. but if you're disturbed by this, then demand for the full release of the files and prosecute the clients. It makes no sense to be like, oh my God, this picture's horrible. But the files are a hoax and we should move on from talking about them. Like you can't have it both ways. You know, these people always go back and forth. First, they claim their files, then there weren't files, then there were again, but they're a hoax. But now they're real and only a hoax when Trump's involved.

I mean, it's so funny because people would be like, man, did you see that birthday letter, Bill Clinton sent Epstein? That was really creepy. but the one that Trump sent him is totally normal. I didn't think anything of it. But it seems like they know Trump's involved, but they're just too closely associated with him to jump ship now. You know, they'd rather just help cover up a child sex trafficking ring.

It's wild. So now if the files actually do come out, the collateral damage isn't be catastrophic. You know, it's going to destroy so many people's reputation. And it's already destroyed people's credibility like Cash Patel and Pam Bondi. They're a complete joke. And Dan Bongino, he's stepping out at the FBI, which has gotten mixed reactions,

but it'll be interesting to see if people still trust him. Because before he was at the FBI, he kept telling everyone for years to stay focused on the Epstein files and continue to push for the release. But then once he got the position at the FBI, he just wanted people to move on from it. Also, now a lot of people even try to downplay Epstein's crimes. I want to pause for a second because we got to remember,

like, Dan Bongino, before he was FBI director, was on everything. Deputy Director. Yeah, before he was FBI deputy director. He was on everything. Obviously, his own show, talking about how much inside information he had and sources and this,

and he knew all this. And then all of a sudden, as FBI deputy director sitting next to Cash Battelle, he was like, no, he killed himself for sure. We know this. It sounds like a Dave Chappelle skits. There's nothing.

Yeah, there's nothing that we need to see here. This was actually Dan Bongino that says something about some country. outside of the United States that had involvement that he knew about. And he actually did this on the Tim Pool podcast. And this was probably about a year or two before he became the deputy director. Listen. A year and a half after that, I'm in a green room at Fox.

And I'm not going to say who because they didn't give me permission to share it. But what the short story, but not who they are. Says, you know, Epstein's an intelligence asset for people in the Middle East, right? I'm like, no, I didn't know that. I'm like, you sure that? The person, let's say, is like, I'm absolutely sure of that, that he's either a winning or unwitting asset, intelligence asset, meaning his plane and that island, the cameras, there's a big assumption out there that these videotapes were exclusively in the custody of Epstein.

That's a huge mistake. The reason they wanted this story to go away is because there's an assumption like, oh, yeah, Epstein had him. No, he wasn't the only one who had him, according to this source. These assets, that's why this blackmail story makes so much sense. Which Middle Eastern countries they are, I don't know, but this person who is a very, very good reporter. I mean, Aces, right, swore Epstein was either a winning or unwitting intelligence asset, and they may have had his plane wired up, and they're the ones who have all this stuff.

So the point is, to sum it up, how do you know some of these countries aren't going to some of these power players who aren't making decisions? Because, hey, he wouldn't want this video out there, right? How do you know? 100%. Oh, weird. Strange. Middle East. Well, I just want to talk about the CIA for just a minute and how they recruit their people. Let's just talk about that for a second.

Chad, when CIA recruits people, who do they look for? What do they go after? Well, just normal people that are, you know, they don't go after, obviously, like assassins or, you know, people that are even ex-law enforcement. They actually go after people that don't have a track record or federal government, like employed history or any of that stuff. go after normal people, but they also go after sociopaths. They go after people that are just close enough to sociopaths to where they'll go to that line, but they're not completely psycho to where they can control them, but they can also get them to do unmaral things.

And that's the people they go after. It's not necessarily that they look for people that are going to be like, you know, Mr. and Smith Smith, the movie or Jason Bourne. Right. They literally go after everyday normal people that they think they can train, manipulate, and and brainwash. And then also have dirt on because a lot of times they'll put dirt on their own assets because they do the exact same thing all the way down the line to where they'll say, well, look, you know, here's a deal. If whatever when you leave the CIA or when you leave Mossad or whatever it is, we'll kill you.

Or we'll just completely destroy your reputation based on this. And if you think about Jeffrey Epstein and his background, let's just go there for a minute. We did a podcast a long time about how he even got into like this social, circle of influence. This guy didn't even have a college degree. He worked at Dalton school, and he was a math teacher. But Dalton School, I was researching, and this was a school for, like, elites, where their kids went. And so he kind of got into the elite circle, but then he started crossing boundaries with some of the students, and he got fired, but it wasn't huge news. It was quiet news, and they just quietly let him go. And from there, he went to Bear Stern,

which was a offshore banking institution. And that's where he learned about tax evasion or like avoiding taxes and offshore banking. So, A.K., he learned how to funnel wire money where it's out of government purview, I guess. Exactly. And in that circle, he started meeting up with these billionaires. And you would think to yourself, well, this guy had no education. He had no degree to even do that. He had no certificates in financial anything, and they allowed him to come to this company. Could he have been planted by the CIA in this company, particularly?

And then he got fired and it, you know, it says that they totally were with the law and they called him out and blah, blah, blah. But after that, that's when he got with Les Wexter. And in your monologue, you brought up Les Wexer. Les Wexer was a millionaire. And he actually gave. I think he was a billionaire. or a billionaire, sorry. Yeah, he's a billionaire.

And he actually gave Jeffrey Epstein power of his attorney. He gave him a Manhattan mansion for a very low, low cost. And he transferred all of his billions of dollars for Jeffrey Epstein to take care of, not even having a certificate in this kind of banking or dealings. And you think about him being a plant and people putting him there for a reason. You just don't get into those kind of circles. without a college education. You're usually implanted into these kind of things.

You know, even when you're saying like the Bear Stearns and like was he planted in there or even or even the Dalton school. Yeah, was he planted in Dalton School to get around the elites? Then they put him in the position of influence. They told him how to do it. They told him how to get in. Or maybe the handlers are people that kind of put him in Dalton School

were already ready and waiting. Maybe that's why less. Because he wasn't even a math teacher either. He had no degree. Like how many teachers? teachers do you know that can teach at any school without a teaching degree? Well, exactly. And he was basically accountants for billionaires.

And he had no, you know, background on that. But Les Wexner, he's a huge influence on Epstein from the very beginning, right? Obviously, he basically gave his fortune to Epstein, supposedly to do whatever the Epstein had no idea what the hell he was doing with all this billions of dollars. Yeah, who does that? I wonder, I'm just curious because, you know, we're talking about Middle East. and we've obviously talked about Massad. Yeah, we've talked about all those ties. Because usually if you are a CIA asset, you're also an asset for other countries.

I'm going to look up Les Wexner Israel. And I think that countries work together a lot. I think CIA and Mossad do work together. And if it benefits the countries, then let's do it. Let's go on with this. I'm looking up Les Wexner, Israel, Jewish. I'm just looking that up because I'm just curious. Okay.

AI says, yes, less. Wexner was Jewish. He was born in 1937 in Dayton, Ohio to Jewish parents who were immigrants from Eastern Europe. Wexner has spoken openly about Jewish identity and has been heavily involved in Jewish philanthropy, especially in education, leadership. Oh, education. Maybe that's how he got a job at Dalton, leadership development and support for Israel. He founded organizations like Wexner Foundation, which focuses on Jewish leadership programs

in the U.S. and Israel and military. I was just curious about that. Interesting. He does a lot of education stuff. then Epstein was at Dalton school even though he didn't have a degree, didn't have any idea what the hell he was teaching. Then Les gives him his billion

billions of dollars fortune. Yeah, and he has no training. And he has nothing on that either. That's very interesting, very interesting. And you know, that's why I asked you, how does CIA like find and recruit people? They look for normal people. And he was a normal person.

He didn't come from an elite background or anything like that. And then when I think about Gisleine Maxwell, she did come from an elite background. And maybe they were paired together on purpose. Well, they were. You know, they didn't just come together. I think this was all a huge operation. Yeah, I mean, Gislane Maxwell's father was a Mossade agent.

And he was heavily involved in Israel and everything about Israel. Gisleine Maxwell herself was anything about Les Wexner. He obviously, I just want to look that up because he has heavy ties to Israel, the military, also education, which is also where Epstein was teaching adult in school. So all that, yeah, all that, all that matters and means something. Let's get back to the video. This recent release a few months ago, Megan Kelly said some wild shit. I think she got a call from the administration because she said she also has a source.

And she was acting like, is Epstein really a file? You know, I heard he just like barely legal teen girls. I'm going to play the actual full clip in this entirety because he only plays a short clip of this. And so I want to make sure in context it is exactly what Megan Kelly says because I think he plays about 15 seconds of it, but it's actually a minute and 48 seconds. So for Megan Kelly's on benefit, I at least want to play the entire clip so you can hear it as it is because how he's implying this is Megan Kelly was trying to downplay Epstein and what he actually did. I'm not saying that she doesn't in this because, you know, that's kind of the lead up into this one minute and 50 second conversation. But I'll let you guys hear what she says exactly and decide on what you think. is happening here.

For Epstein, I've said this before, which is a reminder. I do know somebody very, very close to this case who is in a position to know virtually everything, not everything, but virtually everything. And this person has told me from the start years and years ago that Jeffrey Epstein, in this person's view, was not a pedophile. This is this person's view who was there for a lot of this, but that he was into the barely legal type. Like he liked 15-year-old girls.

and I realize this is disgusting. I'm definitely not trying to make an excuse for this. I'm just giving you facts. That he wasn't into like eight-year-olds, but he liked the very young. Wait a minute. She's saying that he wasn't a pedophile. He liked barely legal.

Yeah, 15-year-olds versus eight-year-olds. Like what? What the hell? May and Kelly, what are you talking about, bro? Like, what? He liked barely legal? 15? I mean, is this biblical days?

Or maybe you're in the Middle East because I think that's allowed in the Middle East. Yeah, it is actually. And it's been a lot. It's been, you know, you can read a lot of historical context on how young they had, not just women, but boys. You know, a lot of the Roman leaders had these boy toys that were like 11 and 12 years old that they would abuse. And it was legal and okay. Yeah, well, because they were the leaders. They were the ones that was doing this.

And it kind of sounds similar to our own government, other governments, around the world, they still operate in this evil satanic stuff, right? I mean, this is what it is. It's good versus evil. And most of who controls nations or especially some nations, a lot of nations, are evil. She's saying he likes barely legal girls, 15. So she's trying to basically say that 15's okay, but eight would be bad, maybe. Maybe eight would be bad unless.

Yeah, what is the cut off, 10? Yeah, I don't know. Like what, like what at what point is, is it not okay? Because it's just crazy to me. Megan Kelly says here, barely legal is 15. So that's not that bad. Like, that's what she says. But she's like, it's not like he necessarily like eight year olds.

What? All right. Anyways, just continue. Damn, this is, sorry, Megan. I was trying to give you a benefit of doubt, but I guess, I guess we're not going to be able to do that. Teen types that could pass for even younger than they were, but would look legal to a passerby. And that is what I believed. that was what I reliably was told for many years. And it wasn't until we heard from Pam Bondi

that they had tens of thousands of videos of alleged, forgive me, they used to call it kiddie porn. Now they call it child sexual abuse material on his computer that for the first time I thought, oh, no, he was an actual pedophile. I mean, only a pedophile gets off on young children abuse videos. She's never clarified it. I don't know whether it's true. I have to be honest. I don't really trust Pam Bondi's word on the Epstein matters anymore. Yeah. So I don't know what's true about him, but we have yet to see anybody come forward and say I was a, like a, I was under 10.

I was under 14 when I first came. So 15 is cool is basically what she said. And well, Megan Kelly, I think what her point is, is that there are some 12 year olds, some 13 year olds that are fully mature now because. of the hormones in our foods and they look much older. But that is not what the law is. The law is based on their brain development. And until you're 18 is when people say you have full brain development and are okay to

make decisions. And you can make decisions. Yeah, rational decisions. Right. It has nothing to do with what your body type is or what you look like. It has to do with your brain development. Yeah. It's just so weird how she said that.

But anyways, let's move on. So I don't know why anyone would try to make this point. this is insane. I mean, literally the name of his plane is referencing a pet file. And there are alleged victims as young as 11. And the girls in some of these pictures, you can't see their faces. They're blocked out, but they look really young. So with all the information out there and knowing more is coming out to try to make this point is wild. Like she must have not thought this through at all. But maybe the recent file drop changed her mind. I mean, Epstein said he was checking IDs to make sure girls were underage. Also, I saw it now. They're deleting files because they forgot to redact

some with Trump in it, which just draws more attention to them. So I don't know how they didn't catch that before the release. You know, I figured that's what they're looking out for. But the DOJ always acts like they're rushed and they didn't have enough time to release everything and censor the victim's names. But this has been going on for like six months at this point. And their reports to them six months ago redacting names. And every time it comes down to actually releasing them, it's like, we need more time.

The files aren't ready. They're not with us or we're protecting the victims. And by victims, they probably mostly mean the clients. that's all they really seem to care about protecting. But now since they didn't release all the files and they deleted some, people think Pam Bondi should be impeached. Even Trump fans, they hate her too. Because she just insults everyone's intelligence.

I mean, she's gone back and forth on this so many times. Like, first they did that binder stunt and she gave everybody already publicly available information and said it was the Epstein files and said they're the most transparent administration. So that completely backfired and everyone just got pissed at her. So then she's like, all right, well, now a bunch of files just got to my desk. I just got a truckload of evidence. I have hundreds of hours of videos.

It's all coming out. We're the most transparent administration. But then soon after that, the DOJ announced they had nothing. And then they also said Epstein killed himself and she lied about the cell footage. So every few months, whenever the Epstein stuff heats up, they do this whole runaround where they talk about how transparent they are, but they just need more time to protect the victims. Mr. Blanche, I want to follow up with you on what you just said. You were referencing the 15 files released Friday.

They disappeared from DOJ's website yesterday, including this photo of what looks like a desk with a drawer open containing photos of Donald Trump. Just to be very clear to put a fine point on it, why were these files taken down? You're saying it was at the direction of a judge? Well, you can see in that photo. There's photographs of women. And so we learned after releasing that photograph that there were concerns about those women and the fact that we had put that up. So we pulled that photo down. It is nothing to do with President Trump. There are dozens of photos of President Trump already released to the public seeing him with Mr. Epstein. He has said

that in the 90s, in early 2000s, he socialized with him. So the absurdity of us pulling down a photo, a single photo, because President Trump was in it, is laughable. And the fact that everybody's trying to act like that's the case is a reflection of their true motivation. But the reality is Anybody, any victim's lawyers, any victim rights group can reach out to us and say, hey, Department of Justice, there's a document, there's a photo, there's something within the Epstein files that identifies me, and we will then, of course, pull that off and investigate it. Are you saying that one or more of the women in one of the photos or several of the photos is a victim or a survivor of Jeffrey Epstein, and that's why you took those files down,

and will they be put back up? No, that's not what I'm saying. We, of course, if we knew that, if we had, if we believed that. Well, by the way, Blanche, you literally just said, well, if victims come forward and they say, take my photo down because I'm being exposed, you know, he's trying to act like, guys, we're looking out for the victims, okay? I mean, we want to make sure that these victims are heavily protected. But these victims have already exposed themselves.

They've gone on camera and say, we want everything released. We want it done through the government. We don't have, we don't want to do it through ourselves. That should be on the government, not us. But he just got caught. Yeah. Right? Because he was like, well, he was trying to make it out like victims had reached out.

And it was like, oh, my God, my face is in this and all this stuff. And she's like, well, so were these victims? And he's like, that's not what I was saying. So it was like, which is it? Anyways, let's continue. Graph contained a survivor. We wouldn't have put it up in the first place without redacting the faces. But notwithstanding what we believe.

We don't have perfect information. And so when we hear from victims' rights groups about this type of photograph, we pull it down and investigate. We're still investigating that photo. The photo will go back up. And the only question is whether there will be redactions on the photo. And, of course, if there are survivors in any of the photos, we will redact them as Congress expects us to do, as President Trump expects us to do, and as the Attorney General and

Director Patel have directed the department to do. So I don't think we'll ever get the full files, but now there's more pressure to release them than ever. And obviously, the more that comes out, the worse it looks and the more people should be demanding for the release. Of course, the DOJ was hoping that the files that were released on Friday would be good enough for people and they'd shut up about it now. But it didn't work and it never seems to work. You know, they've tried to get people to move on from this so many times already. It's not going away. And whenever they get caught, it's like, give us time.

You know, we're in the process. We just need to protect the clients. I mean, victims. but people are running out of patience. I mean, I'm glad they released what they did, but it's just nothing in the grand scheme of things. I mean, the Bill Clinton pictures look bad, but they're probably nothing compared to the redacted files about him.

You know, I'm sure there's so much worse about him in the files. I'm sure they just released the least damning evidence, and we're probably just hoping it would satisfy people with these pictures of celebrities. I mean, also there's a picture of Michael Jackson and Epstein in there, which I think was a new development, and of course it looked pretty creepy. But some people seem to think this is a red herring.

Like they put this in there. So would catch people's attention and they just focus on that. Because also the deputy press secretary tweeted out this picture of Bill Clinton, Michael Jackson, and Diana Ross and their kids. And they blocked out their kids' faces. So it makes you think they're victims. But this picture had already been publicly available on the internet. So I don't know why she's acting like this is a big bombshell in the files. Well, it seems like they might be trying to use this as a red herring, you know, because of Michael Jackson's controversy.

obviously when you see this, you think the worst. So also some other celebrities that were in the files are David Blaine and David Copperfield, which David Copperfield has this picture with Maxwell that looks pretty bad. You know, because most of these other pictures look like they're in a professional setting. And just because you've taken a picture with Epstein doesn't mean you're involved with him or you're doing anything wrong. But the pictures of David Copperfield and Bill Clinton probably look the worst. So a few other ones were Chris Tucker, Mick Jagger, and Kevin Spacey,

which Kevin Spacey has already admitted to being on Epstein's private jet with young girls. I felt he put the president at risk on that trip to South Africa because there were these young girls. And we were like, who is this guy? So I will say this. So young girls on those flights. They were young girls on those flights. Yeah. It also doesn't help that a lot of these people already don't have the best reputation.

And the entertainment industry is known for supporting profiles and abusers like Roman Polanski, who is convicted of drugging and raping a 13-year-old. but even after that, everyone still supported him and worked with him and he won an Oscar. Then also Harvey Weinstein, you know, everybody loved him. And I think they had a good idea of what he was doing. But then once it came out, then they're all like, oh, this is terrible. And he also was friends with Epstein and his company was mentioned in the recent files release. So it seems like in the entertainment industry and in politics, this stuff is really prevalent.

Because also it's much easier to get away with when you have power. Like nobody seemed to care about Epstein, Weinstein, or Palanel. until they had to. I mean, people would openly make jokes about this stuff. People would defend Polanski and get mad that anybody would even bring up the fact that he raped a 13-year-old. Like, one of the craziest things that shows how depraved and morally corrupt these people are is when Quinn Tarantino defended him on the Howard Stern Show sometime in the early 2000s. And this will occasionally resurface from time to time. And just recently it did because Quinn Tarantino started some drama with Paul Dano and everybody took Paul's side. And then they

pulled up this clip because this is wild. More than Europe and more than China. With a 13-year-old girl and you're in a grown man, you know that that's wrong because she has to- Giving her booze and I'm not talking. I'm not, look, she was down with it. Oh, you're crazy. And she's talked about it.

She's talked about it. I believe it's right. I don't believe it's right. I mean, not at 13. Not for these 13-year-old party girls. Oh, my. Really? 13-year-old party girls.

What is that? And obviously, if somebody said this, nowadays, they'd be canceled in a second. You know, their career would be completely over. But at the time in Hollywood, I don't think anybody even cared. And they probably liked it that he was sticking up for Roman because everyone acted like Roman was the victim in the situation. So this shit was basically normalized in Hollywood and in politics.

But surprisingly, I don't think Tarantino is directly connected to Epstein at all, even though he was best friends with Harvey Weinstein. And Weinstein produced all of his movies. And he's connected to Epstein. But it seems like a lot of this stuff was out in the open. Nobody really cared about, though, until the Me Too movement. You know, then Harvey Weinstein got taken down. Then people stopped working with Polanski.

And then Quentin Tarantino had to apologize for this clip. And Epstein got busted. But up until then, it seemed like you could get away with anything if you had influence in power. Like, the way Quinn Tarantino is talking about this, he makes it sound like it's no big deal. Like, it's just a normal thing. You know, like everybody knows how these 13-year-old party girls are.

So around this time in Hollywood and politics, I'm sure there's a lot of this going on. And I'm sure there still is. but it used to be obviously really easy to get away with. You know, Epstein had been doing this for decades. And then even when shit at the fan, a lot of people around him acted like he was being treated unfairly, like he was being canceled. There's this letter in the files that he got from someone who is like, I hate that you got into this mess with the girls.

You know, they knew what they're doing. You didn't put a gun to their head. But you got to watch it, you know, when you're a rich, famous man, you're a target in this world. So the amount of people that just ignored what he was doing and even defended his behavior is wild. but let me know you guys think about it and make sure you chat my page all right so there you go um and by the way that guy to put that stuff together is too lazy to try y t on youtube too lazy to try yt and listen you know just like what you just heard i mean this is normalcy for evil satanic

hollywood evil satanic government this is horror for the course and you know i i go back to like our podcast like five or six years ago when we talked about the child sex trafficking rings. You even think about, which I don't even want to talk about, ETSA, something that rhymes with ETSA gate, you know, and where they tried to say that was complete lies. That was utter bullshit. Like, oh, my God, there's no type of elite pedophile sex trafficking ring. This is before Epstein and all this stuff even came out. And then we find out like how evil this stuff really was. So anything about like the Itza Gate scandal or any of that stuff. And you're like, okay, that's probably also not

BS. And also keeping in mind, during that investigation and after the investigation into that, you had seven police officers, allegedly, that were tied to that investigation in New York that died somehow miraculously, all tied to that investigation. And it's like any time you go and you say something that is not, you know, especially it goes kind of against this ring, this elite sex trafficking ring, this child pedophilia ring,

you're going to end up dead. There was, you know, we know about the Clintons specifically. And there was one guy that, you know, the guy that can't even remember his name right now, but the guy that supposedly shot himself multiple times with a shotgun and then was, I think, also found hanging. It was kind of strange. And that was all, that was like one of Clinton's main people. But that person actually knew about all of Bill Clinton's, you know, doings on Epstein Island.

And I think that's why that guy was executed. Now, to kind of close this. the CIA and drug running airline in Epstein. This document trail no one wants to talk about. And this isn't gossip. It isn't paperwork. And it's pretty ugly. So Mike Benz has been digging through the Epstein era documents and flagging something pretty explosive.

Jeffrey Epstein appears as an authorized signatory on contracts tied to Southern Air Transport, which is the CIA-linked airline and implemously busted for moving drugs and weapons during Iran. contra affair. And so in the mid-1990s, Southern Air Transport allegedly shifted operations from Miami to a military base in Columbus, Ohio, to service a private Epstein-connected entity. Not the CIA, not a defense contractor, but Epstein. And so that raises pretty obvious questions. Who exactly had the leverage to ask a proprietary CIA airline to relocate its operational footprint, to move it closer to Epstein? Benz's theory points backwards to Adnan. Ken Ghashi, a Saudi arms broker whose money intersected with Iran-Contra logistics to about a decade earlier. Now, Epstein, he argues, was managing that guy's linked finances.

And so some ecosystem, some planes and some era, he said, look, it was all just I was managing this guy's finances, but this was a CIA 747 aircraft. And so to be clear, this is not a conviction. it's just a pattern of contract, signatures, timelines that don't belong to a math teacher turns, you know, hedge fund guy. Right, right. And this is, this is the big problem. Now, I'm not saying that, and maybe they're trying to shift everything to, whether it be CIA

or even Iran, but I want to play you this quick clip of what Mike Ben says about this actual airline that Epstein was connected to, or not airline, but airplane. Here you go. Jeffrey Epstein negotiated the first. fucking contract to move the CIA's proprietary airliner Southern Air Transport, which was busted running drugs and guns during Iran-Contra. He personally was the authorized signatory on the deal with Southern Air Transport to move it to a military base in Columbus, Ohio to service the limited. Hey, any of you guys got any bright ideas about how you would go about in 1994 convincing the central

intelligence agency to move its proprietary CIA airline used for covert operations based in Miami to fucking up and move its entire operation to fucking Columbus, Ohio, just to service your personal company instead of the CIA? What do you think he cold called the CIA? You think he just smoothed the CIA? Or is it because he was handling Adan Khashoggi's money? during Iran-Contra that purchased the guns that Southern Air Transport a decade earlier was moving. There you go.

So what I want to say here is that I think this is all pretty obvious. This is not Epstein, a single guy that, you know, just happened to get into child sex trafficking. This is a government intelligence operation 100%. It's a multiple government operation. Yeah, yeah. I think it's not just the United States. I think Israel is also involved. I will say it.

And I think there could be. say Assad. And there could be other governments involved. Whoever can benefit for this thing in blackmail elites in America, they're going to do it. Yeah, but I don't think that's the thing. I mean, there's only so many close allies to the United States. There's only so many close intelligence operations that work alongside CIA. I mean, you could say MI6, right, which is Europe and UK and all that, but likely, I mean, maybe, maybe they had some involvement, but But this came, this came directly out of the Russian playbook. I'm not accusing Russia of anything, but they did this during the Cold War.

If you look up Compromat, you look that up and you go down that rabbit hole, you'll see they use this during the Cold War. This is nothing new. It's just a reorganized playbook that intelligence uses. Blackmail has always been something that, you know, governments or nations or whatever have always use to make sure that they have the power and the control over who they want. Who would most benefit over blackmailing U.S. politicians? Well, you have to ask yourself that. I won't be the person to say that, but who would most benefit?

Yeah, we say deep state, we say CIA. CIA already basically has a lot of control over our dignitaries, our government, our elected officials. But like, would it be more beneficial to a foreign nation that wants complete control and blackmail and manipulation over our politics, over what we do, how our foreign policy evolves, how we react to certain things that happen in certain areas of the world. And if you have that blackmail on politicians, would you want to make sure that they are put in power when you have blackmail on them or stay out of power?

Because I think you would want them in power so that then you can have all the power of the U.S. government and then tell them and say, hey, do you remember all this shit we have on you? If you don't play by our rules. Those little girls? Yes. So then you also got to look back as like, who was the biggest funders of presidential campaigns? Who were these people that are funded heavily? Who are these people that are funding Congress members or Senate or whatever?

And then you tie all of this stuff into kind of just a little puzzle. It's not even a big puzzle. Like who are the people that are funding these people? And then if they're in power, how do you make sure that they do what you want them to do based on whatever it is? whatever it is. And it goes beyond money because now they realize this, just giving people money is not enough.

So we have to have a way that we can forcefully say, this is what you're going to do for us or else. Well, and you even think about Bohemian Grove, for example, when Alex Jones came out and investigated all that and went in and found all that stuff out, it was a blackmail scheme. Yeah, yeah. And that was, and who knows who was actually even in control of that. You know, we don't know.

You know, we don't know. Was it CIA? Maybe. Was it a foreign nation? Maybe we don't know. A lot of nations together. Exactly. Unfortunately, our government, our politicians, and the United States of America is under

control of something or someone or some faction. We don't know. We've known this for a very long time. We've been saying that there is this deep state. We've been saying that there is this global initiative to globalize the world to take over the world. And so the question you have to start asking yourself now is like, who are those people? Because maybe some of this is shifting a little bit as figuring out like, all right, well, who are the major players?

Who are the people that are showing up at World Economic Forum? I want you guys to do your own research. And I'm going to give you guys some homework. Go do your own research. Go look at the World Economic Forum. Go look at the people that represent the World Economic Forum that go and meet every year in Dabba, Switzerland. And they're the ones that are trying to figure out how they control the world, how they especially control the United States

and then just go look into the backgrounds of those people and especially the U.S. representatives, foreign representatives, look up their political history, religious history, ties to intelligence, look up all of that stuff. And I want you guys to come to your own conclusions about maybe who the deep state is, who the New World Order really is.

Things are shifting. Things are changing. And we're starting to get. get deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper and we're starting to figure out more and more things. And so without even me trying to tell you guys what it is or what I think it is, it doesn't matter. I want you guys to go do your own research. And when you do your own research, if you guys can present us some things about who all of these people that go to World Economic Forum are every year, go look at their, like I said,

political background, religious affiliation, national affiliation, all those things. I want you guys to report back to us. Send us some message on social media. send us at Investigate Earth Podcasts at Protonmel.com. And we will do a special episode based on your guys' research on the World Economic Forum and who these people are and maybe who actually is controlling the world. And that way, I can't get in trouble myself. It'll be you guys. I'll blame it all on you.

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