Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Epstein Files Released: Names, Power, and the Truth Exposed

Episode Date: February 3, 2026

In this episode we examine the recent release of the Epstein files and the questions they raise about power, influence, and accountability. We walk through what these newly unsealed documents actually... contain, what is confirmed versus what is still allegation or interpretation, and why the public reaction has been so intense. Rather than relying on headlines or social media claims, we focus on what is documented, what it means in context, and how information can easily be misunderstood when emotions run high. Our goal is to lay out the facts as clearly as possible while discussing the broader issues these records bring into the spotlight, transparency, responsibility, and the consequences when systems fail. This episode is about separating evidence from speculation, understanding the scope of what has been released, and having an open, direct conversation about truth, accountability, and the impact these revelations continue to have.Sheri and Pauline's Book - A Mothers Promise - The Mark Hays Story

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Starting point is 00:00:21 With every breath, I breathe you out, and each other go with out. Hello and welcome to Investigator's podcast. I'm your host chat alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. On tonight's episode, we're looking at the newly released Epstein files and the disturbing picture they reveal. These are not rumors or online chatter. These are official records that expose powerful names,
Starting point is 00:00:46 hidden connections, and behavior that many people find sickening. Even a brief look through the pages can leave you angry, unsettled, and asking how so much could stay buried for so long. This episode is a blunt conversation. about right and wrong, good and evil, accountability, and the abuse of power at the highest levels. We're going to break down what's actually documented,
Starting point is 00:01:04 call out the darkness where it exists, and confront the reality that when influence goes unchecked, real people get hurt. Transparency matters, truth matters, and ignoring it is no longer an option. Guys, welcome to the show. It is February the 2nd, 2026. And the name of this song is A Lose Touch by Flux Vortex.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Guys, I'm going to go ahead and give you a warning. If you have kids, this is not the episode for them, because this is pretty great. What we're going to be talking about. Obviously, we are discussing the Epstein files that was just released a few days ago, over 3 million files, pictures, audio, and video. Although I do not believe this is the entirety of the files that actually exist. This is at least what we are getting for right now.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Now, the Department of Justice are the ones that release the files, and this comes after the Trump administration has called it a hoax, and there's nothing to see here. Epstein did in fact kill himself. He was not murdered whatsoever, although there is. something I think, which is probably maybe the biggest bombshell in the entire file release when it comes to Epstein's quote unquote suicide. But then we're also going to talk about just how heinous these pieces of shit were.
Starting point is 00:02:10 I mean, we're talking about murder. We're talking about cannibalism. We're talking about sacrifice. And these are some of the biggest names we know in society today. And it goes from anybody like Trump to Bill Gates to Elon Musk. And what I will say is that although. we have 100% been critical of how the Trump administration has handled the Epstein file release and I still do not 100% understand why they call it a hoax or why they have handled it the way
Starting point is 00:02:39 they have. I don't actually think that Trump is technically involved on the pedophile level like so many of the mainstream media outlets are saying right now based on what we actually see in these files and we'll get into that in just a little bit. But guys, welcome to the show. this is something that this podcast has been chasing for quite some time. We have done many episodes on the Epstein files throughout the past three years. And it's so funny because it's like if we don't talk about it on every episode, people are saying that we're not talking about it. But if we do talk about it too much or we don't talk about the right things,
Starting point is 00:03:15 they're saying we're covering for someone or something. And so I want to make something very clear. And this is something that I guess over the past year we have come into more than we ever have is just we're not bias on political party at all anymore. Sherry probably is a little bit more than I am. But I've just come to the conclusion, I guess over the past year, year and a half, that political parties just don't matter. I mean, we're not in a fight versus Democrats. We're not in a fight versus Republicans. We're in a fight versus evil. And that could be people on both sides. And I'm telling you, it is people on both sides. There are evil people as Republicans.
Starting point is 00:03:52 and there are evil Republican politicians. There are people in the Republican Party that will screw you over as a taxpaying American citizen just as fast as a Democrat will. Now, are there more Democrats that seem to be crazy? To me, yes, I 100% think so. And are my values and morals and what I believe in and stand for more on the Republican party side? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:04:16 But I think that how far the political parties have become or went from a sinner. Right. I mean, where it used to be arguments based on abortion or marijuana legalization or welfare or whatever the old things were that Republicans and Democrats argued about, it's no longer about that anymore, guys. Now it is just like evil and it's good. And there are factions of those people on both sides of the political party. And there are factions of good and evil people as everyday citizens in America. And so I think what I want to say before we start this is that this podcast should and I hope tells you like don't fight based on Republican or Democrat. Don't fight based on if you vote for Trump or you vote for Biden or you vote for whoever.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Like just understand that we are in a fight 100%. But the more that they, the more they try to get you to think it's all about Republican and Democrat, the more they're going to be able to get away with the things that we're going to talk about on this show that is revealed in the Epstein files. And I just want everyone to understand that because the reason why they are able to get away with the shit that they are able to get away with like this is because we are constantly at each other's throat and fighting over stupid shit. That is what we're fighting over.
Starting point is 00:05:30 And, you know, it's just like the trans thing or the gay and lesbian thing or the weed thing or the abortion, whatever. Those are minuscule in comparison to what we're actually dealing with. I think that these files truly expose evil in this world on a mass scale. I think not only a mass scale, an organized scale, a deep state globalist demonic scale. And when I had mentioned earlier that these files revealed that there are, have been young women murdered by elites, there have been young women eaten by elites. And I'm talking about cannibalistic eating of these young women.
Starting point is 00:06:09 There are women that have had babies and their babies rip from their womb and taken to never be seen again by the mother. and what I would likely say was the reason for that is probably some type of sacrifice. And this is crazy. I mean, Sherry, you know like over the past year and I know we've talked about on the podcast. I've been reading a ton of books about like just ancient history and biblical books and Enoch and watchers and Nephlam and all that. And one of the things that just stands out to me so much is like these Epstein files kind
Starting point is 00:06:42 of sound eerily similar to some of the ways that the watchers and Nephlam what they did to humans, what they did to babies and how these people that worshiped Satan and Ball back then, they're doing the same thing today. Exact same thing. Yeah, we have tried to do this podcast probably for the last two hours. And I was like at the first part of the podcast, I was like, you know, I'm going to be, you know, black and white and I'm going to go with the evidence and I'm going to stick with evidence. But the more you get into it, how do you keep your emotion out of that when it involves small
Starting point is 00:07:14 children and young women being sacrificed. And then you think about the Bible, like before Jesus, you know, that's what they did. It was sacrifice animals. And sometimes they were led to have to sacrifice their own loved ones. And I'm thinking about that. I'm like, how awful is that to have to do that? And are these people sacrificing because of God? Are they sacrificing for their own well-being to have everlasting, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:44 know life and young life and longevity and youth over, you know, children's blood and, you know, taking body parts and dismembering them. Like, I'm not going to lie to you. I have been in a depression for the last three days going through these files. And I'm not going to get like emotional, but it's hard not to get emotional when you read these files. Yeah, for sure. It's just really hard to take in, you know, and we are.
Starting point is 00:08:14 a conspiracy podcast. We've done many, you know, like check and tell you, many podcasts about Pizza Gate and all the other things, Bohemian Grove and all this stuff that goes behind the scenes and it has to do with elites and blackmail and this and that. But when you really think about the sacrifices that are being made that shouldn't be, it's just like it's heart wrenching to me. Yeah, for sure. I mean, it's something that, you know, as I went to bed last night, I was kind of just reading through some of the stuff and I'd read through stuff yesterday and a day before. And then just thinking about like what so many of these young girls went through, what they're still going through to this day.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Obviously, they're grown up now. You know, there was also a recent post today. I just saw that a few of the lawyers, I guess, of some of the victims they say are trying to get these files taken down immediately. Sherry, you had mentioned, I guess one lawyer had said that like their, their client's name was mentioned, what, like a thousand times or something? No, 500 times. He has 11 of the clients that are victims.
Starting point is 00:09:17 And one of the clients was really upset or he was upset on her behalf because her name was allowed to be shown in these files 500 times. Yeah. Well, I mean, and that's the thing, though, because you see like on mainstream media where there is Thomas Massey and Marjorie Tate the Green and some of the people that kind of, they were the ones that pushed for this file release. And obviously that's when the Trump administration came out and started hating Thomas Massey. Marjorie Taylor Green, which a lot of people are like, well, then why, you know, if Trump isn't involved, like actually involved, why would he hate Thomas Massey now and Marjorie Taylor Green for releasing these files and exposing this? He's protecting other people.
Starting point is 00:09:56 I don't necessarily think he's protecting himself. I still, to this day, I don't believe, you know, and maybe I'm wrong. Maybe he is a pedophile. And if he is, he needs to be accountable like everyone else. But everyone else as a pedophile needs to be accountable and held to. the same standard. Yeah, I 100% agree with all that. And, you know, like I said, we've been very critical of the Trump administration because of how they've handled it. And we're going to go over whether or not Trump is implicated, whether or not he's not. Obviously, mainstream media,
Starting point is 00:10:26 social media, even at the Grammys last night, Trevor Noah, which was the host of the Grammys, tried to implicate it like, you know, Donald Trump visited Epstein Island all the time. Trump came out today and said, well, guess what? He's going to be sued now because he's not going to make claims. I was at the island when there's no proof. There's no evidence. And I never went to the island. So we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about the other names that are in the files and the horrendous stuff. But I think, like I said, the biggest bombshell surrounds, in my opinion, not just the cannibalistic nature or the almost satanic rituals. It sounds like they were performing on these young girls. But I think just around Epstein's death, quote unquote,
Starting point is 00:11:04 is one of the biggest bombshells. We'll talk about that. But let me just go ahead and get into a little bit of the overview of some of what we have learned so far. And obviously, January 30th, the U.S. Department of Justice released over 3 million pages. And this comes after 2,000 videos, 180,000 images as part of its compliance with the Epstein Files Transparency Act. This law signed by President Trump in November 2025 mandated disclosure of government files related to Jeffrey Epstein's investigations spanning two decades. The DOJ identified around 6 million potentially responsive pages in total, but withheld near
Starting point is 00:11:39 half after reviews for redactions, victim privacy, and sensitive material like child sexual abuse content. Officials described this as the final major release. The critics, including congressional Democrats, argue it's incomplete and questioned the redactions. The files include emails, text messages, FBI reports, internal memos, witness statements, bank records, photos, and videos from Epstein's properties, communications, and federal probes. They reveal Epstein's post-2008 conviction interactions with elites of substantiated tips to law enforcement and details on his sex trafficking network.
Starting point is 00:12:12 While much is redacted or uncorroborated, the documents highlight patterns of exploitation, power imbalances, and alleged cover-ups, disturbing elements include graphic descriptions of abuse, nude images, some inadvertently unredacted, and evidence of Epstein's grooming and trafficking tactics. So let's break this down. Now, obviously, this release has, you know, spewled global fallout. I mean, amongst, I mean, even Russia is talking about it. China is talking about it.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Everybody's talking about it. Okay, everyone. So here's some of the unsubstantiated but explosive allegations about Trump. We'll start with this. An FBI summary from summer of 2025 compiles over a dozen anonymous tips alleging sexual abuse involving Trump and Epstein. These include claims of joint assaults on young women with one tip describing disturbing acts at Mar-a-Lago or Epstein's properties. No corroborating evidence has provided.
Starting point is 00:13:06 and the DOJ labeled them unfounded and false, suggesting they may be election-related disinformation. Trump appears in at least 4,500 documents, mostly in news clippings or emails referencing him. One crazy detail, old party clips and emails show Trump and Epstein socializing in the 1990s and 2000s, with Epstein once boasting about stealing young women from Mar-Lago staff. And in evidence, FBI tips sheets and email change Trump denies wrongdoing and no charges stem from these. So I want to start with this. Where Trump's name is mentioned outside of the fact that Jeffrey Epstein, along with some of his associates, were sending emails back and forth about Trump in various occasions. When it specifically talks about Trump raping a 13-year-old was in one occasion, and these are tips.
Starting point is 00:13:54 A lot of these tips about Trump allegedly raping young girls comes around either 2016 or 2020, in particular around and leading up, to the 2020 election. So these are FBI tip lines. They are anonymous tips unsubstantiated with no evidence. And the FBI had literally no idea who these people supposedly were that were calling into some tip line and saying, I know about this and Trump did this at this time and this date and this is what happened. And there's no name behind this.
Starting point is 00:14:26 This was just all from a tip line. So then what did they do? Well, the FBI, because it had to do with Epstein, they automatically put it in Epstein's case log or, you know, case file. And so where Trump's name comes out when it comes to this alleged 13-year-old rape or whatever it is, it's in the files because someone called in around the time of 2020, alleged Trump raped a 13-year-old, and that was it. So that's the only evidence in the entirety of the Epstein files that talk about Trump
Starting point is 00:14:58 in this manner outside of Epstein or other associates talking about Trump. Well, and I found it suspicious that they named him President Trump instead of Trump. If this tip would have happened years ago and they said, hey, listen, Donald Trump did this in blah, blah, blah, time or whatever, I would think differently about that. But I think that because this tip line was out there and it happened, like you said, during these elections, I just find it really suspicious. And especially with how critical we've been about Trump's handling of the Epstein files, that was. that 100% if there was something in these files that implicate Trump in any of this, then we would be saying it. But you also have to understand, just because there's nothing in these files and this
Starting point is 00:15:43 three million pages of files that implicate Trump in any wrongdoing necessarily outside of these anonymous tip lines, FBI tip lines, that doesn't necessarily mean that without shadow of a doubt that Trump is innocent. I mean, because we can't say that. We don't even have half the files quite yet. Exactly. So we don't know. Do we have evidence?
Starting point is 00:16:04 Is there videos out there? Are there audio out there? Is there audio out there? Is there pictures out there that would implicate Trump further into actual wrongdoing when it comes to pedophilia or raping or torturing or any of this stuff? I don't know. It may be out there. But in these particular files, it doesn't appear that it is.
Starting point is 00:16:22 That's right. And I took a deep dive into them. And I searched everything that I could find that was legal and like not just the tip lines. But was he actually on? on the flight log. Well, he was. Was he actually at the island? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:36 We do know that he was on the flight log according to files. But, and Trump did actually at one point in time say he's never flown on that jet, never been on the jet. And then it comes to find out he is at least on the flight logs. You can look it up on AI. You can look it up in the actual files itself by searching Trump flight log. I think it's, how do you search FLT? I think is how it's spelled on there, Trump FLT. And you'll see that his name was.
Starting point is 00:17:01 on that Lolita Express before. Now, do we know that he went to the island or not? No, we don't know for sure. But we just at least know Trump has said that he's never been on that plane. And according to the files, it looks like he was. Yeah, well, and I dug deep. And according to some people, that's how him and Melania actually met was through Epstein. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Did you read those files? Well, that is possible because, you know, obviously Epstein had ties to literally everyone. Yeah. I mean, I'm talking about everybody, including Fidel Castro. and like all the world leaders. Now, I want to also say before we go further, what I think this file release unveils the most is some of the speculation that we have had before, right?
Starting point is 00:17:44 So why was Epstein a child sex trafficker? Why did this sex trafficking ring exist to begin with? Well, I think the biggest losers in this file release over almost anybody, at least from these 3 million files, is Massad, the intelligence agency for Israel. I think it is also in some parts the CIA, but not as much. And then also MI6, which MI6 is an intelligence agency from the United Kingdom. And a lot of people have speculated and rumored that Epstein was connected or an asset to Mossad.
Starting point is 00:18:21 And this entire sex trafficking ring was a blackmail operation to, I guess, specifically have power over U.S. politicians. And we'll get into that just to show you exactly what I'm talking about and how many times Mossad was mentioned in these files. But also Elon Musk was mentioned. Elon Musk Island invitations and wildest party queries. Emails from 2012 and 2013 show Epstein repeatedly inviting Musk to his private Caribbean island, little St. James dubbed Pedophile Island. Musk responded positively asking what day or night will be the wildest party on our island? and he says our island, which is interesting, very strange. What day slash night will be the wildest party on our island and mention that he'd bring his then partner to Lula Riley.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Now, plans fell through due to to scheduling and Musk never visited per his statements. Musk called Epstein a creep in denials, but the friendly tone contrast with his public distancing. No allegations of misconduct against Musk, but the exchanges highlight Epstein's access to tech elites. So it is very strange. It is weird nonetheless because it did seem like he was pretty adamant on wanting to go to the island. At least that's what, you know, Elon had talked about in the email. Now, you know, people are saying, and obviously Elon Musk himself has said that he did not have a lot of communication with Epstein. I don't think he said he's not had none.
Starting point is 00:19:49 But the evidence here is unredacted emails that are positively in the files. So I just want that to be clear. although Elon says and he's downplayed it by saying, well, look, you know, he's a creep and all this stuff. You know, Musk had posted on X, the nine island visits, but the reality is that that email does exist. So it sounds like Elon actually never went to the island, but at the very least, sounds like at one point in time he was adamant on going. Then you have Prince Andrew's palace invites and Russian gifts. Post-2010 house arrest email show Epstein offered Andrew a clever, beautiful, and trustworthy, 26-year-old Russian woman. Andrew replied he'd be delighted.
Starting point is 00:20:25 and asked for details. Epstein also invited himself to Buckingham Palace for private time. And photos include Andrew crouching over an unidentified woman on the floor and images from Central Park meetings. This builds on prior claims that Virginia Jew free of being trafficked to Andrew for sex multiple times around 2001. Now, the craziest part is emails reference Andrew Colin Gisland Maxwell, his best friend and accepting Epstein's haremitations. So there's emails, photos, Andrew denies all accusations of this. Then you got Bill Gates and extramarital consequences. Epstein's 2013 draft notes possibly unsent suggest he helped Gates with consequences of sex with Russian girls, including acquiring drugs. This followed a fell
Starting point is 00:21:06 J.P. Morgan deal brokered by Epstein for Gates Foundation. Now, there's no direct evidence of Gates involvement in the abuse as of right now, but the notes imply facilitation of affairs with married women. Epstein's internal memos, Gates rep called it absolutely absurd and completely false. And then we also find out that Bill Gates was having to, I think he was prescribed STD medication. Yes. That's what I was going to say. Yeah. That's in the files.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Yeah. That he wanted his wife not to know and he wanted the medicine from Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah. Yep. And by the way, Jeffrey Epstein didn't just have this STD medication. He also had a ton of drugs. I mean, we'll go over the drugs in just a minute. But Howard Lutnik's contradictory island visit, as Trump's commerce,
Starting point is 00:21:53 secretary, Lucknick claimed he cut ties with Epstein around 2005. But 2012 emails show him planning an island lunch visit with a follow-up. Nice seeing you. Message implying it did happen. No abuse allegations, but the contradiction raises questions about elite accountability. And evidence email chains, Lutnik declined, detailed comment. So this is one of Trump's right-hand guys. He's the Commerce Secretary.
Starting point is 00:22:17 He's in so many of the meetings with Trump. This is just another one. Richard Branson's in 2013 email show Branson inviting Epstein back to his British version island's property as long as you bring your harem after Epstein arrived with three adult women, not at the business meeting. According to the files, adult women, but we don't know. Disturban implications casual normalization of Epstein's entourage of women. Epstein emails Branson says contact was limited to group settings over 12 years old. So we know that it sounds like the women that were taken to Branson's island. was over 12 years old.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Then Sergei Bryn's island visits and dinners. Google co-founder Bryn visited Epstein Island, dined at his New York City townhouse, arranged by Maxwell, and was introduced to J.P. Morganese X via Epstein. Emails from Maxwell, dinners at Jeffries are always happily casual and relaxed, she says. No misconduct claims, but shows Epstein's networking leverage. And so there's emails, visitors logs, flight logs. This is Sergey Brin, the co-founder of Google. And then other elites talking to...
Starting point is 00:23:21 about Wasserman, Tish, Mandelson, and Ratner. Casey Westerman, L.A. Olympics had 2003 emails to Maxwell offering to see her in a tight leather outfit and accepting a massage that can drive a man wild. Steve Tisch, New York Giants co-owner, 2013 emails where Epstein connected him to women of specific ethnicities. Peter Mandelson, UK politician, bank records show $25,000 payments from Epstein post-2009. Photo of him in underwear next to a redacted woman led to his Labor Party resignation. Brett Ratner filmmaker updated photos.
Starting point is 00:23:51 a redacted woman on a sofa beside Epstein and another redacted woman in his townhouse. You also have nude photos and videos. Dozens of underdacted nude images of young women, possibly teens, were accidentally published, showing faces and bodies from Epstein's collection. The DOJ pulled some after victim complaints citing technical or human error. Videos include recruitment text and footage from Epstein properties. And then you also have files reveal passports of traffic girls, psychological reports on Epstein's detail. his jail time and 2019 suicide and
Starting point is 00:24:25 witness tips alleged torture cannibalism claims and child rape one set shows Lolita quotes written on women's bodies 2007 draft indictment unfiled charges detail Epstein's abuse of underage girls avoided via his controversial Florida plea deal
Starting point is 00:24:41 and emails and memos showing Epstein's cooperation talks days before his death hinting at potential deals to name names which never materialized now the broad are crazy elements like the files exposed Epstein's communications with Steve Bannon, which is Trump's ex-strategist. Steve Bannon obviously still has a big show.
Starting point is 00:24:59 And a former Obama White House counsel. Emails reference the Duke, possibly Andrew, and even a mod-eye related message details redacted on that. But then Epstein's network normalized grooming with elites exchange and women like commodities. DOJ withheld three million pages raised in suspicion of protecting powerful figures echoed by critics like Representative Rokana. Now, international ties mentions of foreign dignitaries, NFL owners, and billionaires with some files showing Epstein's influence in finance and politics. Now, some of the more sickening stuff with this is the victim allegations of extreme acts to echo elements of Pizza Gate and Frazzle Drip, such as torture, such as torture, ritual, ritual, ritual abuse, and coded language, for example, emails and message references, torture videos, including one allegation of someone saying they love the torture video.
Starting point is 00:25:47 and ritual sacrifices involving eaten children, like actually eating kids. One victim claims she was sold as a sex and torture slave with Prince Andrew allegedly involved in her torture and an accessory to her murder. So she was later murdered after she was sexually abused, raped, tortured, and then they say that Prince Andrew was a accessory to her murder. Well, we've got to remember Virginia Dufre. Yeah, yeah, Virginia Jofrey. Yeah, she was involved in an accident, which we had done a podcast about.
Starting point is 00:26:24 And supposedly she died because of that. Then it come out that she was barely injured because of witness reports and then she died a few days later. But it sounds like prior to the Epstein files release, someone did not want her alive is what it sounds like to me. Exactly. So also the details have revived speculation about cannibalism and extreme child abuse similar to Frazzlejip's hoax claims of a video show in child torture. and dismemberment. Pizza mentions and code words. The documents contain over 900 references to pizza, often paired with phrases like grape soda or in context like head count for pizza and butt cake sounds great, but I need pizza. Obviously, these are interpreted as code for a child sex
Starting point is 00:27:03 trafficking or pedophilia, which is obviously reviving the whole Pizza Gate claims. And the Pizza Gate was the whole, which we talked about earlier, John Podessa's name appear in these files, just like they didn't Pizza Gate files on Anthony Wiener's laptop. This is where the Pizza Gate thing in New York came from. All right. So I also want to talk about the ties to Mossad in Israel, right? The files contained the most extensive references to Mossad with over 1,200 mentions across various contexts.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Often Lincoln Epstein through his associate, Gislane Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell, a media mogul, widely alleged to have been a Mossad asset who died under mysterious circumstances in 1991. Now, many claims stem from a declassified FBI memo from a confidential human source or CHS in 2020, as well as emails and interviews. And so the FBI memo on compromised figures and Mossad links. A prominent unclassified FBI report dated around 2020 but released in the 2020s trance caches CHS claiming Epstein was co-opted as a massad agent leveraging his access
Starting point is 00:28:02 to global elites for blackmail and influence operations. The memo states that CHS became convinced Epstein was co-opted massage agent, pointing to prior FBI reporting on his ties. It alleges Epstein worked with Mossad to compromise U.S. politicians, including claims that he and Ghazlane Maxwell ran a honey trap operation to ensure figures for Israeli interest. The source also links Epstein's lawyer Alan Dershowitz, a vocal Israel supporter, as they co-opted by Mossad, and subscribed to their mission. Additionally, it references Epstein's extensive relationship with Israeli intelligence, including broker and security deals, e.g. between Israel and Mongolia, Kote Lavar, and even black channels for Russia and Syria. The memo ties this to the Epstein's close friendship with former Israeli Prime Minister, Ahad Barack, suggesting Epstein was trained during Barack's leadership,
Starting point is 00:28:52 and emails and visitor logs show Barack and his wife stayed at Epstein's New York apartment multiple times between 2013 and 2017 discussing logistics for visits and calls. Barack has mentioned over 500 times with Epstein advising him on engaging in Mossad for various matters. One 2018 email has Epstein asking Barack to publicly deny Epstein's Massad ties. Separately, files reveal senior intelligence officers Yanni Corrin, a Barack aide with Mossad connections, stayed for a week at Epstein's Manhattan residence while conducting official business.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Corrin had ties to former CIA director Leon Panetta and Epstein facilitated meetings between them. Victim accounts like those of Maria Farmer, a Jane Doan violent, described Epstein's network as a Jewish supremacist blackmail ring linked to pro-Israeli billionaires, including Les Wexner and Mossad. Libya asset recovery scheme, a 2011 email to Epstein outlines a plan to excess $80 to $100 billion in frozen Libyan state assets during the Gaddafi regime's fall, estimating billions in recovery fees. It explicitly states that former Massad members, along with XMI6, express willingness to assist in identifying recover and stolen assets. The senator describes this as involving sovereign, stolen, and misappropriated funds with Epstein's position as a key facilitator.
Starting point is 00:30:10 And then unverified FBI tips reference Epstein's role in arms trafficking linked to Mossad via Adon Kajnashki, an alleged Mossad connected dealer, and receiving funds from Israeli sources for his operations. Email shows Epstein broker in a UAE Israel Black Channel pre-Abrahim Accords, a 2025-25 hedge fund probe in the files ties his wealth to Israeli funding, potentially for spy ops. Now, Ghazel Maxwell in a 2025 DOJ interview denied any intelligence involvement but confirmed her father's Mossad rumors. DoJ memos flagged these as speculative and politically motivated with no prosecutions. So when it comes to Mossad, there was a lot, a lot of references. And so when it comes to CIA, references to CIA are far less frequent, around 300 mentions and more speculative, often tied to broader U.S. intelligence claims rather than direct operations. No files confirm Epstein as a former CIA agent, but they include hints of
Starting point is 00:31:05 protection or involvement, like Acosta's belong to intelligence claim. There are multiple documents revisited in 2019 report where Alex Acosta, which is a former U.S. attorney who gave Epstein a lenient 2008 plea deal allegedly said during Trump administration's vetting, I was told Epstein belonged to intelligence and to leave it alone. Acosta denied this in 2025 congressional testimony stating he had no knowledge of Epstein's intelligence ties. But the files include emails and memos debating this, with DOJ concluding it was likely a reference to vague rumors, not evidence. Now, I don't even necessarily know that that reference is even talking about CIA, more than likely when they were told he is an intelligence asset.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Whoever probably told him that was probably referencing Mossad, not CIA. But then you also had Epstein's meetings with CIA figures. There were Epstein calendars that were seized in 2019 raids, show three 2014 meetings with then Deputy Secretary of State William Burns, which was later CIA director under Biden. And so a CIA spokesperson in the files explains these as Epstein's offering a career advice via mutual contracts, but no inappropriate discussions. And then the same FBI, CHS memo, Lincoln Epstein, and Mossade also claims he had extensive
Starting point is 00:32:15 relationships to U.S. intelligence and other agencies acting as a dealmaker and a fixer at elite levels. And so file mentioned Epstein's role in facilitating U.S. foreign deals, but DOJ dismisses these as unsubstantiated. So there is what the files say about Epstein and Mossad and CIA. Obviously, Epstein was highly connected to Mossad on a very vast level to where he was broker in deals with Mossad. He was known by many people in the intelligence community that he was highly involved in
Starting point is 00:32:45 Mossad. And so there's just, you know, when you talk about a big loser here, it's the intelligence agencies. When it comes to these files, I think it highly exposes his involvement. And it exposes the judges like Acosta or if he's the prosecutor. I'm not even sure who he is. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:02 But he gave him a sweetheart deal. Like when he got arrested in 2008, he was basically. in jail for three hours a night and then he could go about his business and then go back to jail and do whatever he wanted. Yeah. That's all that happened. And Acosta was Trump's guy, keep in mind. So it's just yet another, you know, someone on Trump's team that was somehow getting involved
Starting point is 00:33:26 in Epstein and trying to protect him. Although obviously, you know, also in the files it talks about that Trump allegedly, which I don't know, that had went to a Palm Beach police department or I guess someone around Trump and told on him. and told on Epstein. We also know that I guess Trump had... That was in like 2008. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:41 And we know that Trump had, I guess, kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago. So we know all this stuff. But obviously, the way that the Trump administration has handled the Epstein files, it shows that Trump is protecting someone or something. Well, I have to say, though, when Trump was asked if he would help Hillary Clinton, he said he would not prosecute her, even though that's what he went, you know, against her in the 2016 elections. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:06 when everybody's like lock her up. Put Hillary in jail. Yeah. Hillary in jail. Yeah, but you know, they're not going to prosecute her. And by the way, I did just see that she and Bill Clinton have agreed to testify now as of a few hours ago. They denied it earlier. Yeah, they weren't going to do it.
Starting point is 00:34:20 All right. So we're going to get to some clips here in just a moment. But I got to talk about for just a second, probably the biggest, I think, bombshell in this entire file release. And I don't know if DOJ, look, the DOJ has. not done a very good job at releasing this stuff. I think they used AI to go through it and retract stuff. I don't think they personally did. How can anyone go through three million files?
Starting point is 00:34:46 No, they can't. But either way, I mean, they were leaving victims' names and shit that was supposed to be redacted, but wasn't. And then they had to pull files. And I think they pulled like thousands of files as of today that are no longer available. But this is pretty big. So the individual who anonymously posted on 4chan, the morning of Epstein's death, which was August 10th, 2019, claiming he witnessed weird happenings at the prison before
Starting point is 00:35:11 Epstein's death has been identified in the Epstein files. Listen to this shit. This is crazy. Now, this was a big conspiracy theory. This is what everyone said, oh, my God, this is on 4chan is some crazy shit. And by the way, the MH370 videos came from 4chan as well. But 4chan, this guy went on there and we'll talk about it. Robert Gravalia, an officer at the Metropolitan Correctional,
Starting point is 00:35:35 Center in New York has been identified as the anonymous prison employee who posted on 4chan claiming Epstein left his cell Friday evening shackled in a medical wheelchair while at the same time an unauthorized trip van arrived at the prison, which he believes took Epstein away the night before news broke of his death. Now, the day after Epstein's death, U.S. Attorney Jeffrey Berman of SDNY opened a grand jury proceeding and subpoenaed 4chan, Apple, AT&T, and Citibank for records aiming to uncover Dravalia's identity following the anonymous 4chan post. So when this was all big conspiracy theory, for those that heard about this, saying that they
Starting point is 00:36:16 think that someone took him from the jail or the prison and got him the hell out of there, this was a conspiracy. This is actually what started the conspiracy theory about they thought Epstein was still alive. They thought they switched his body. And so when you think that. that this was all just a big conspiracy theory. Well, behind the scenes, they were opening up massive investigations, and they were subpoena in 4chan and everybody involved in 4chan to try to figure out who the hell was saying
Starting point is 00:36:43 this from this prison. So if that's not true, why were they going to this length to try to find out who the hell this person was? So Garvallia's name is not redacted on his bank records included in the SDNY subpoena response from Citibank for his 4chan post and ties to the same. prison officer Robert O'Rovale, whose statements were released as part of the prison's investigation into Epstein's death. So he made statements in the investigation at the prison, and he was the one that posted in
Starting point is 00:37:16 4chan saying what he saw the night before. And so this is huge. We now have validation that 4chan posts from 810, 2019 is a legitimate eyewitness. And this accounts from an MCC prison officer that Epstein may have been switched out before news broke of his alleged suicide. And it even goes further and talks about, okay, this is what his actual post said. It said, not saying anything after this, please do not try to dox me, but last night after 0.415 or 415 count, they took him medical in a wheelchair, front cuffed, but not one triage nurse
Starting point is 00:37:50 says they spoke to him. Next thing we know, a trip van shows up. We do not do releases on the weekends unless a judge orders it. next thing we know he puts in a single man cell and hangs himself here's the thing the trip van did not sign in and we did not record the plate number and a guy in a green dress military outfit was in the back of the van according to the tower guy who let him through the gate you guys i am shaking right now but i think they switched him out this is an actual post from one of the guards and then also in corroboration with the tower guard and this is in the files this is absolutely 100% in the files. So when we're talking about the fact that Epstein may not even be dead, I think this is the biggest proof we have so far. And I'm not saying that, you know, you might say that sounds crazy, but it's not. I mean, they took him in a wheelchair. No triage nurse looked at him whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Van shows up with a military guy. They never have that happen at the time. And then the next morning Epstein is quote unquote, suicided. So I think there's a bigger reason why they're trying to hide the footage or manipulate the footage like they have of the cell area. Yeah, when they took away the eight minutes or whatever they did. Absolutely. And so I wanted to play this quick clip because Rudy Giuliani actually had talked about this with Benny Johnson. I want to play this real quick.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Check this out. So what about the prison? What about Epstein's death? You know, you built that prison, didn't you? You built the prison that actually died. I have to disagree with my good friends here, you know, who came to the conclusion. I find it highly unlikely that you could commit suicide in that prison. I know that prison.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Not only did I put probably a record number of people in there. Really quickly, Mr. Mayor, because you have so much insight on all of this. What's resurfacing in my timeline due to the release of these files is that the feds aggressively went after a guard in the prison who created a whistleblower account of what actually happened that night. He says right here, dated, that there was a medical wheelchair. that took Jeffrey Epstein out of his cell. He was cuffed.
Starting point is 00:39:59 There was no triage nurse. And there was a transfer van that showed up with a military guard under it. And that Epstein didn't return. And he thinks that they actually swapped out the body. Now, this seems insane and was like, obviously, something that would have been written off out of hand. But now we can swipe through and see that there are actual federal documentation that they went after this guard.
Starting point is 00:40:22 the feds went after this guard, they identified and went after him, went after his bank accounts, and attempted to prosecute him for this account. That seems a little odd. Do you think that it's plausible that they could have taken Jeffrey Epstein out of the prison and effectively this whole thing was just staged? Well, I mean, of course it's not plausible, but there is evidence that it may have happened. So you had to do a much more thorough investment. to discount it. Bar recused himself originally when he was when he was seeking to be attorney
Starting point is 00:41:00 general. Then he made the decision on the case and made the definitive statement that it wasn't a suit, that it wasn't a suicide. And then we find out that Barr's father hired him as an unqualified young man. That could be, that could be perfectly innocent. It might not be perfectly innocent. was ever really investigated? It doesn't seem like that. There are too many, there are too many, having investigated cases
Starting point is 00:41:28 where you come to the conclusion to prosecute, you come to the conclusion of innocence, or you come to the conclusion, you have enough evidence but not enough to win. You come to all three, right? You run down everything.
Starting point is 00:41:41 All right, there you go. That was Mayor Rudy Giuliani, which I do think did an incredible job as a mayor in New York City during the time of 9-11, and although, you know, the media and everybody has demonized him, especially after the 2020 election and a lot of his claims that he believed the election was stolen. And they went after him very hard. But, you know, as he says, and he was one of the ones that kind of built the prison that Jeffrey Epstein was in to what it is today.
Starting point is 00:42:08 And as you heard him, how many people he's probably put in that prison, he just, you know, even though he was kind of misspeaking there quite a few times, which we do all the time. So I can't say. I've done it a lot on this podcast because my brain is totally in a fog tonight. But what he's saying, though, here is that it sounds very plausible. And if the government is going after the guard that just made this account and said what he saw the night that he saw it, like, why would the government try to prosecute him? What they wanted to do was put him behind bars for the rest of his life, if not kill him. Because he had information they did not want to be let out. I'm sure they probably had for this.
Starting point is 00:42:48 to happen. They had the guards they wanted in place. They told them, I'm sure, shut the hell up. If you ever say anything about this, you'll be killed or prosecuted. This is a matter of national security. And if you don't think that they would switch out Epstein when he was as tied to intelligence as he was. I'm sure. This is what intelligence agencies do. That is what they do. I mean, just watch any of the shows. This is what they do. And I have not really thought about, like, oh, could he be really alive? I always thought, oh, no, they just staged his death to look like suicide, but they killed him.
Starting point is 00:43:19 That's what I always thought. And I never really thought about could he really be a lie. I think he is. But according to these files, I'm starting to rethink that. Yeah. I mean, there's two options here. If the guy's telling the truth and then you also have the tower guard, I think the guy's telling the truth.
Starting point is 00:43:35 The prison guards, I 100% believe is telling the truth. This was an account made when he witnessed this before Epstein allegedly killed himself. Why would he lie about this, right? and why would the Department of Justice and the government go after him so hard if he was just some random bullshitter on 4chan lying about what he saw? They wouldn't do that. They were going after him to shut him the hell up so that he would never talk about this again. Have we ever heard anything else from him since then? No, we haven't.
Starting point is 00:44:03 But that's what I'm telling you is that when shit like this happens, no matter how like closed of, I guess closed of an operation, which is what this likely was, is there will always be someone that talks. and intelligence will do whatever they can to try to shut that person the hell up. Now, I would like to know where this guy is today if he's even still alive, to be honest with you. Who knows? But this guy was brave enough to go on 4chan, which also, by the way, Epstein trafficked all the time. Epstein was always on 4chan, according to files as well. And not only was Epstein on 4chan. Epstein was actually banned by Xbox because he used to harass people, fellow gamers, in like, blackoffs and shit so much.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Oh my God. They banned him on the Xbox. I mean, that's a legitimate thing in the file. So not only is this guy raping and torture and kids, but he's also apparently harassing people on Xbox, which is pretty wild. And then here's a file.
Starting point is 00:45:00 This is just some random file, but as a subject, we don't know who it's from or two. Interview a purported Epstein victim is the subject. And so the first line says, thanks, whoever, redacted. I didn't realize Bush raped him too. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:14 And this is from SSA. FBI, New York. And then later, it says, I'd like to add a few other points disclosed by the purported victim. And here's the points. While on this yacht, he witnessed African-American males having sex with white blonde females, all of whom were bleeding during intercourse. He was a victim of a type of ritualistic sacrifice in which his feet were cut with a
Starting point is 00:45:36 skimotter, but left no scarring. On the yacht, he witnessed babies being dismembered, their intestines removed, and individuals eating feces from their intestines. He was also raped by George Bush 1. Victim disclosed he was escorted to the FBI building by Michael Moore, who is the creator of True Pundit, described by multiple online sources as a conspiracy-driven news website that attempts to paint the FBI in bad light.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Moore has a criminal record as a result of an FBI investigation. Let me know if you want to discuss the former FBI agent that called this into the head office, thanks. That's one of the files. I mean, it's just crazy. A young girl talks about giving birth and having her baby taken right after. There was blood everywhere. This is what this file says.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Pressure on the placenta question mark. Things would have to be different. She said, I had to be brave and strong and listen to her directions so she could help safely get the baby out. I was terrified seeing so much blood on the bed and the floor and started to panic. She had me flip over to my hands and knees and had me push and push. It was so excruciating. I could feel everything as she tried to guide the baby out. but I was so tired.
Starting point is 00:46:45 I felt like I was dying, but suddenly she had caught a beautiful baby girl who made more than a whimper but beautiful cries. She let me hold her and washed her and brought her back clean and perfect. She smelled so good and showed me how to feed her. But only after 15 minutes, Mr. M came to take her. I was hysterical and begging for more time. He said those horrible girls were in the car waiting, but I wouldn't let her go. The old woman promised that she would be safe and I had to let her go.
Starting point is 00:47:13 of four pounds, 10 ounces, 18.5 inches long with beautiful long fingers. I am dead inside. Life has no meaning. I don't want to be here. So this is an account from one mother that the baby was basically ripped from her and taken, never to be seen again by this mother. And another thing is, you know, Todd Blanche, which is the deputy attorney general under Pam Bondi, you know, in a press conference.
Starting point is 00:47:39 I want to play this real quick because if you, you know, as a. we talked about, although these three million files that have been released don't necessarily implicate Trump as being a pedophile. But this is what the DOJ and how they respond to reporters when ask about, you know, hey, are you going to prosecute anybody? Listen to what Todd Blanche says here. You said this is the end of the Epstein, of your review of the Epstein files. So just to clarify, or is the public going to learn the identities of the men who abuse the
Starting point is 00:48:09 girls with the information that you're releasing? If not, why not? And then I have a quick follow. You just baked in an assumption into your question that I have never said, and I don't know to be true. Is the public going to learn about men that abuse these girls? Like, what does that mean? I mean, I don't understand what that means. Well, I mean, the men who abused the young women through Epstein's...
Starting point is 00:48:37 We said in July, and it remains as true today as it was in July. If we had information, we meeting the Department of Justice, about men who abused women, we would prosecute them, right? We talked about the work that we're doing. That's why I said that. I said this earlier. There's this built-in assumption that somehow there's this hidden trance of information of men that we know about that we're covering up or that we're choosing not to prosecute.
Starting point is 00:49:06 That is not the case. I don't know whether there are men out there that abuse these women. And if we learn about information and evidence that that allows us to prosecute them, you better believe we will. But I don't think that the public or you all are going to uncover men within the Epstein files that abused women, unfortunately. Is this before? This was right before. What the fuck? I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Well, I mean, this is Todd Blanche. This is Pam Bondi's deputy attorney general. This is the – by the way, this is the same guy that Trump sent. to interview Ghislane Maxwell, which was what, in 2025, sometime around like June or July,
Starting point is 00:49:47 which is when they, Trump and the administration came out and said, Trump's totally vindicated because Tom Blanche went. But they clearly knew what was in the files. Even though they lied and said there was no files, and it was just like peto videos of not people on the FDN files. This is all bullshit. And I,
Starting point is 00:50:04 I am sorry. I, my head is like foggy. I cannot stand this. Yeah. Like, I cannot even talk about it. Well, and that's the thing about this guy, right? Todd Blanche, you know, this is the gaslighting that we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:50:17 You know, when we say that the Trump administration is handling this in the worst possible way and you have your deputy attorney general come out and say this shit, oh, we had any evidence that there was anybody that did anything to any girl. We would be prosecuting them. I mean, even just in these files, there is tons of evidence. And that's not even evidence that's, that's not even the files that's released. We're never going to see. I know.
Starting point is 00:50:40 And let's see. Are we going to prosecute anyone in these files? No. Is anyone going to be held accountable? No, no one's going to be held accountable. That's the shitty part about this. But either way, that's just what we have to work with. Now, there was also something in the files that talks about all the drugs.
Starting point is 00:50:59 There was literally a drug menu from Epstein files that would put Hunter S. Thompson to shame. And here's some of the drugs. Coke, one gram. Coke, yellow, pure one gram. Coke Pure.2, ketamine, HCL, ketamine, liquid, DMT, LSD, Xanax, Valium, Kalanapin, Perkissettes, Vicodon, Oxycodone, Oxycontin, Opan, Methadone, Morphine, Adderall, different milligrams, Dexadrine, dronabinol, MDMA, or Mali, Ecstasy, XCT Red, Cialis, I mean, it's literally a menu of drugs.
Starting point is 00:51:44 And I would assume probably that a lot of these drugs were given to the young girls, if I had to guess, probably forcefully. It's kind of like the ditty case. Yeah. So they drugged them. They did all the stuff. They raped. They tortured them.
Starting point is 00:51:58 It's just very sickening. Now, I also want to quickly just play a clip from Nick Fintas, which he kind of broke down, you know, just kind of like how this whole thing has played out. over the past six to eight months. This is a pretty short clip, but I think he sums it up pretty well. Listen. First, you said they're on your desk, now you say they don't exist.
Starting point is 00:52:19 You campaign saying you're going to release the files. Now you say there are no files to release. You talked about this sex trafficking ring. As a matter of fact, that's what Epstein was charged with and convicted for 20 years ago. Now you say there never was a sex trafficking ring. Two weeks before the war,
Starting point is 00:52:32 Elon's got a black eye and says, Trump won't release the files because he's in him. Now Netanyahu brings us giant trophy to the White House to commemorate their victory in the war. And right before he arrives, he gets this gift, which is the Epstein files are going to be buried. So people go, what's up? Then you get this extraordinary cover-up. Trump comes out as guilty and defensive as anybody could possibly be.
Starting point is 00:52:53 He says, if you are interested in the files, you're an idiot, you're a fake supporter, you're with the Democrats, you're with them. It's a hoax. The Democrats made it up. Why would they not get to the bottom of it under Biden? One line after another, one excuse after another, piling up. There are no files. It's only child sex abuse material.
Starting point is 00:53:12 The files are real, but they're a hoax. They're real, but they're fake. If you believe in them, you're not my real supporter. Then you have Republican members of Congress that break with the party and vote with the Democrats to release the files. Congress shuts down a month early to prevent this from going through. Thomas Massey, Marjorie Green, Nancy Mace, and Lauren Bober get together, and they, working with the Democrats, are going to compel the release of the files with an act of Congress. they're even going to bypass the Speaker of the House, the leader of their own party. Congress closes a month early for their summer recess to prevent this from happening.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Then when Congress comes back, comes back. Do we get the files? No, because Congress shuts down for 45 days. Longest government shut down in history. And in the end, the Democrats give up without any concessions. Kind of weird. Then a week later, we finally get this bill. It goes to the floor.
Starting point is 00:54:02 It passes. Marjorie Green, who pushed it, resigns mysteriously, after getting death threats. Then Trump tries to drag his feet. They try to delay the release of the files. They try to amend the bill. Doesn't work. It takes two months. Now we're in January 26.
Starting point is 00:54:18 We finally get the files. And there's six million of them. Now we finally get the files after they pulled out every stop to prevent this from happening. They shut down the government. They shut down Congress. They tried to trick us. They tried to postpone it. They lied.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Trump tried to guilt trip us. Try to tell us it. It's not real. Finally, they released them. There are six million files. and Trump is named almost 5,000 times. And you say, okay, so that was a lie. Everything they said about it was a lie.
Starting point is 00:54:48 There you go. And that was what Nick Quintess says. And also I do want to say, you know, according to the memo, also in the files, this is from a confidential human source. It says that Trump has been compromised by Israel and Kushner is the real brains behind his organization and his presidency. The allegations suggest that Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, wielded significant influences with linked to efforts by the Jewish religious group Chabad Lubavich to co-op the Trump presidency. The CHS described Chabad Lubavich as a messianic, ultra-orthodox sect with ties to hardline politics in Israel and Russia, noting that on the day Trump was elected in 2016, Ivanka Trump and Kushner visited the gravesite of Rabbi
Starting point is 00:55:31 Manachim Mendel, Saracian, a key figure in the movement. The memo also ties those claims to Jeffrey Epstein, a legend he was co-opted by as a Mossad agent with the connections to Israeli intelligence. So, you know, this is something that obviously a lot of people have been speculating. And yet here we are in the files with more, I guess, speculation or whatever. I mean, obviously we can't, this is from a confidential human source. There were multiple of these in the files, but it does say that he has co-opted or compromised by Israel. Now I also want to play this piece from Mike Benz. And this is just kind of a conversation between Epstein and the, at the time,
Starting point is 00:56:15 Ahad Barack, which was over Israeli military intelligence. This was a conversation of an audio file that was found in the files. And so I want to play this to you guys because this just kind of shows the depth of how complex Epstein was into the intelligence network. and what and how his mind thought. I mean, it wasn't necessarily just that Massad or CIA was controlling Epstein. I think Epstein was probably blackmail too. Well, it was, but it was also the point of Epstein was a brain for some of these intelligence organizations, I guess you can say.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Here you go. A level of access we may never get again. This is an incredible audio file on Justice. I'll put the source link below. I'm at the 210 mark. I'm just going to play this full exchange between Jeffrey Epstein and Ahuduq. For context, now I found this from a clip that Ryan Grimm posted. He deduced that this was a February 2013 meeting between Larry Summers, Hood Barak, and Jeffrey Epstein, for context, Hood Barak, was the head of Israeli military intelligence from from 1983 to 1985.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Then he became the prime minister of Israel at the same time that Bill Clinton was the president of the United States. Then he became the basically their version of the head of the Pentagon, the defense minister. He left that position in March 2013, and this is February 2013, one month before he leaves government office. Now, this is important because what you are about to see is a conversation, between the outside fixer, Jeffrey Epstein, and the still head of Israeli military as he transitions to the private sector and the conversations about how to create your own private business
Starting point is 00:58:17 and how Jeffrey Epstein shapes this. Listening to this conversation, I think, will give you a very deep understanding of the role that Epstein plays in mediating the lucrative success of private career. for formerly government officials. Tom appears to be Tom Pritzker, who is the chairman of the Pritzker Foundation. He's the head of the Hyatt hotel chain. His brother is J.B. Pritzker, the governor of Illinois. He told you at Doblos. He thought you should make a list of who has IOUs to you? is that who's the out of the people in the past who you think you're close to, he said he really wanted you to make this list of this person owes me a favor, this person owes me his life,
Starting point is 00:59:23 this person owes me his job. So what you're hearing him say, again, this is someone who led Israel's most elite, covert commando unit, and then became head of Israeli military. intelligence, then became the head of the country, and then became the head of its military, and is now going out on his own at the age of 71 to try to make money to convert what was government power into personal financial power. Now, it appears that Epstein played this role in the United States with CIA director Bill Burns. It appears that he played this role in the UK. It's probably likely that he played this role with the Saudis as well. But this is a very
Starting point is 01:00:07 instructive teaching moment for what a fixer tells a government official to do to convert his government power as it is cresting into a personal business empire. And the thing that he tells him to do is not market his skills or knowledge, but rather to compile a people index of people who owe you favors, people who owe you their lives. As I've said, time and time and time and time again for a decade, but publicly here on this platform for three years now, this is the way it works everywhere. And whether it's Jeffrey Epstein or whether it's someone from an NGO or foundation or someone from a fund, the incentive in government is to, accumulate people who owe you favors. That way, when you go out on your own in the outside,
Starting point is 01:01:09 you are placed on lucrative board seats. You get funding from the foundations and philanthropies. You get startup capital. You get a huge sinecure, not for your government work, but for the moment you go private after your government work, because people owe you, I oweUs from your time in government. This is how the State Department gets captured. This is how the CIA and Department of War and USAID and these things get captured because the incentive goes from being about doing what's best for the country to doing what's best for outside privateers who then OU favors IOUs so that you yourself, when you leave that government post, are able to get those board seats, book deals, stock options, consulting agreements, VC capital, you name it. I'm going to keep playing.
Starting point is 01:02:11 This person owes me and say, here is my first, because right now you're focused on opportunities. I need you to focus on your personal balance sheet in terms of competences. What's your real strengths? One of the liabilities is your 71 years old, so you can't be.
Starting point is 01:02:43 in business, it takes 20 years to make money. Yeah. We have to make money in the next three years. So, people, competence, things. So, I talked to Ian yesterday. I asked him to come. Yeah. He flew in London, he's great for an hour.
Starting point is 01:02:59 He's in person from the... He's... So, same thing. He built, because he's very connected to Samsung. Very. Who? Samsung. Korean.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Sam... Assook. Yes. Very. Yeah. They pay him $3 million. a year. Just to make PR? Yes. He has 10 companies like that now. Okay. So he said there's this company called Lookout. He said he mentioned it to you. L-O-O-K-R-A-D. He thinks they'll pay you a couple
Starting point is 01:03:35 million dollars to be on the board. It would be good. I understood. So Jeffrey Epstein is arranging through his network of friends and people who likely owe Epstein favors. for Epstein to then broker a board seat for $3 million or several million dollars to Ahud Barak. What do you think Ahud Barak's government salary was as the Minister of Defense in Israel? The Secretary of War in the United States makes about $250,000 a year. Suddenly it goes to $3 million because you got a friend named Jeffrey Epstein who can get people to back you, and part of that involves compiling that list of people who owe you IOUs, so they'll give you lots of money on the outside.
Starting point is 01:04:41 It's like an agent, if you think about it in the music industry, who negotiates on your behalf with the label, who negotiates on your behalf with the platforms. All right. So that was, obviously, one of the audiophiles where he, Jeffrey Epstein, is talking to the guy that was over basically the Israeli government. He was at one time the president of Israel. And so you see just how deep Epstein was and how much influence he had. And, you know, when we talk about Mossad, CIA, MI6, and you talk about that he was an asset or a part of those intelligence operations or groups, you also have to think about like how influential or I guess you can say a key figure and even the people that were a part of these organizations.
Starting point is 01:05:30 organizations to where he was, as the audio clip kind of portrays, a fixer. He was a guy that would set up these people that were leaving offices or leaving positions of power. And the number one thing he says here is you got to find who owes you. Who owes you favors? Like, who owes you with their life? Those are the people you need to manipulate blackmail into giving you jobs or money or influence or power.
Starting point is 01:05:54 So we see how influential elites, how they run things. We see what they do. We see how evil they are. I don't know. Like I said, for the people that are going to come after me and say, oh, well, you're trying to exonerate Trump. Well, that's not what I'm doing either. I mean, I'm just telling you based on these files, that it doesn't appear that Trump was
Starting point is 01:06:19 implicated in pedophilia or even necessarily being on Epstein's Island. If anything, it kind of goes contrary to that to some degree about him kicking him out of Mar-a-Lago, a report that he supposedly reported Epstein to the Palm Beach police. The Elon Musk thing, although the emails seem like he's pretty adamant on wanting to go to Epstein's Island. It doesn't appear that he actually visited. There are tons of names in these files, tons. But the problem with that is that we don't know which names were actually implicated, which names were participating in the rape or the torture.
Starting point is 01:06:57 We know pretty convincingly, at least, that Prince Andrew appears to have been involved pretty heavily and maybe even an accessory to murder, as the files say. But what we can say is just like the watchers and the Nephlam back in the olden days, back in biblical days did to people where they would have people sacrifice their babies. They were cannibals. They would eat people, eat babies. they would sacrifice or offer up babies to their to ball or to Satan. It seems like a lot of the ritualistic things that are involved with the Epstein sex
Starting point is 01:07:33 trafficking ring are all about that. When you think about how when you've heard the term, you sold your soul to become famous or you would do anything to become famous, it's probably no wonder why we see the celebrities like we do. It's no wonder why the celebrities take a soul. certain political side or a certain standing on things or the fact that they show up at all these weird parties where there will be cakes that look like people that are with blood coming out of it literal cakes that look like blood is gushing from the cakes i mean even in their parties they
Starting point is 01:08:12 they expose themselves of who they worship and what they're a part of and so i think that these at least these epstein files although we still don't have at least half of the files. I think the most horrific shit that are in the files, we're never going to see. I don't think we'll ever actually know the depth of how bad that some of these girls torture went. I just don't think we'll ever know that. And I don't think that we'll ever know the true context of these elites or the powerful
Starting point is 01:08:44 and how actually involved they were. and so when I say that like I am pretty much over politics and over government, it's because of the fact that when you read files like this and you realize that it's not just Democrats and it's not just a certain political party, it's both. There are evil people on both sides. And yet here we are in America hating and fighting each other because of our political beliefs when we have something this big above us. we have people this evil that rule the world, that rule our country, that are in charge of our
Starting point is 01:09:21 decisions. We as people are paying a lot of these people that are a part of this shit are hard-earned money and taxes. We work our ass off every single day, every workday, every week. And then at the end of the year, or well, at the end of every paycheck in a lot of people's cases, you have to pay these people money. And yet they go and spend your money for all kinds of stuff. stupid bullshit like wars and things that other countries want us to get involved in or probably
Starting point is 01:09:51 even contributing to some of the trafficking to be honest just like when the Biden Harris administration was in office and there were millions of people pouring across our border what were we using money for well we were using money for people that were pouring across our border and putting them in hotels and giving them food and bank cards and phones and everything else but we were also using 737s aircraft to take the children 300 plus thousand kids and traffic those kids around the country to whatever address that they either had written on their hand or tattooed on them because likely they were going to their handler. They were going to whoever was going to traffic them into this world that we're even talking
Starting point is 01:10:33 about today. And that's the sad thing about all this. Like we think that Epstein is the only one. We think that Epstein was the only guy and now he's dead. Number one, I don't even think Epstein's dead. I think he's probably still alive. If he was as big of an asset in intelligence as we think and know, it seems like we know he was now, according to the files, then he's probably still alive. And I would assume that the guard that made those claims is probably very accurate.
Starting point is 01:11:01 And I would assume that that's why they went after him so hard. But I guess the saddest thing about all this is, is the fact that Epstein's not the only one. He's not the only guy like this. I'm sure that regardless of whether Epstein's in protective custody now or in some other country living his best life, someone else has likely taken his place. They knew how beneficial that blackmailing these politicians with sex or sorry, with underage girls is. They know that.
Starting point is 01:11:35 And they still likely have most of these people under their thumb. That's why not only the Trump administration fumbled this release of the files, but nobody has ever released the files because they're all protecting the same people. And so that's all I have to say for this episode. It's going to be interesting to see what comes. Are they going to release more files? Like I said, they've already taken a lot of the files down over, I think, 100,000 files were deleted today from the DOJ website.
Starting point is 01:12:03 And so if you guys have seen anything that we have not covered in this episode, please let us know. You can find us on social media. you can email us, Investigator of Podcasts at Protonmel.com. And also remember, Sherry does have her new book out called A Mother's Promise, along with Pauline.
Starting point is 01:12:20 The book is called A Mother's Promise, the Marquay's story. You can find it on Amazon right now or Kindle, wherever you read books is on there. Check that out. They worked very hard on it. It's a story of corruption and murder that one mother had to endure. We covered that story on our podcast a few years back,
Starting point is 01:12:38 probably four or five years now. and the FBI was involved. Sheriff's got arrested. Judges resigned is one of the most corrupt small town stories you'll ever hear. And they did an incredible job writing a book. Make sure you go check it out on Amazon. I will put the link in the description. But guys, I think that's going to do it for this episode.
Starting point is 01:12:58 Until next time, we love you all very much. Get right with God because in this evil world, we need him more now than ever.

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