Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Epstein Files Transparency Act: Will the Truth Finally Be Released?

Episode Date: November 20, 2025

In this episode of the Investigate Earth Podcast, Chad and Sheri break down the newly passed Epstein Files Transparency Act and what it could mean for the release of long-hidden documents connected to Jeffrey Epstein and his network. The bill received overwhelming support in the House and now heads to President Trump’s desk for final approval. If signed, it would force the DOJ to release unclassified Epstein-related files, including travel records, communications, and investigative material.But will the public really see the truth, or will the government find new reasons to delay full disclosure? We dive deep into what the bill actually demands, how “victim protection” and “national security” could still be used to block access and whether this moment represents transparency or another cover-up tactic. Stay tuned as we explore what might finally be exposed and who could be protected if the files remain sealed.Check Out Our New Merchandise Here!

Look you any mom, any sister, any job, any broke-ass car, and that's your car, or look you, any friends that I'll never see again, everybody but you thought. Hello and welcome to Investigator's podcast. I'm your host, Chad, alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. On tonight's episode, we're getting into something pretty big coming out of Washington. The House has now passed the Epstein Files Transparency Act, and by an overwhelming vote, it now heads to President Trump's desk. Now, this bill would require the Department of Justice to release all unclassified documents

tied to Jeffrey Epstein and his network, including travel logs, communications, and investigative records. But the real question is, will these files finally be released to the public, or are we about to witness yet another round of excuses to keep the truth sealed away for, quote-unquote, national security, or to protect the victims, or any other claims we've been hearing for years? But now we're going to break down what the bill actually forces the government to do, and whether we'll ever actually see the names, connections, and secrets that have been buried for decades. Guys, welcome to the show.

It is November the 19th, 2025. The name of this episode is the Epstein Files episode, but it might be called maybe the Epstein Files, because we don't actually know if Trump's going to sign it off to where we actually are going to see the files being released. We've been hearing excuses for years, for decades. And instead of, it seems like the government trying to protect the victims, and actually show transparency to the American people, seems like they're trying to protect pedophiles, which is something that really pisses me off.

Now, what I also will say is that Sherry picked this song. The name of the song is ABCDFU by Gell, and I think there's a lot of victims. I think there's a lot of American citizens. I think there's a lot of people that are so fed up right now with just the way the government operates and almost how blatant they are to lie into our face and especially people that are really actually awake.

we're not talking about tribal members of either party. We're talking about people that are here for truth and transparency. Not here for Trump, not here for Biden, not here for Harris, not here for the Republican or Democrat Party. We are here for truth. We are here to actually have transparency so that our victims can finally quit hiding away for years and years and years, although they literally themselves have entire list of names that they are not, they can't release because they're afraid of either being murdered. or they're sued into oblivion to where they will never see the light of day financially, you know, personally, anything. Because you have to understand that most of these people on this list and especially the ones that were really actively engaged in in pedophilia on the island. Some of these people are massive, massive names.

Oh, they totally are. But the one thing about the victims is they all have come together and they're standing together and they're like, F off. government. If you're not going to provide the files, we're going to have to do it. But I don't think it's up to them because like you said, if they come out with the files, it's all against them. Yeah,

and I think the government has to do that. And this is the time for Trump to stand up and say, I'm going to sign this thing off. It's not a hoax. It's real. I mean, I just don't even understand why he's playing this whole game about this hoax thing. If he's not on the list and he says he's

not been to Epstein Island, he didn't have the privilege to going. Why does he care about the files? Let them be released. Who is blackmailing him? Who is standing above his head and not making him sign off to this? Yeah. Because there's going to be more shit coming out that they're not going to release the files again.

And it's just really pissing people off. Yeah, we're going to get to that too. So right now with this bill, HR 4405, which is the Epstein Files Transparency Act, it is now going to Trump's desk. And so Pam Bondi, Cash Patel and all of them, of course, had a press conference today. They had a press conference about some drug trafficking sting that they have miraculously, you know, found, and they're doing all this great work. And of course, they say the same lines and the same things they always do. And so in that press conference, reporters were asking Pam Bondi specifically about the files, which will get into a clip and just a little bit about what she had to say.

But it may not surprise you. The reason why also I want to play that song is because, you know, I might edit the. the F word out because there is the F word in it. I don't think you should. It says A, B, C, D, F, you. Because listen, it seems like over the past two or three, four months, there are so many sensitive people that listen to our podcast

that because we criticize a faction or group or a person on one particular side of a party, then they automatically hate us. And that's fine, but the reality is that we're still going to continue to push on and deliver the truth, no matter what

anybody says on the internet, about anything that we say, anything that we believe. And honestly, we truly try our very best to research everything and look through all of the propaganda because it's propaganda on all sides. You know, even as I look now in November of 2025 and you watch Fox News, there's propaganda on Fox News. We obviously know MSNBC and CNN and all these other news organizations like ABC and NBC and all the late night shows. I've talked for years about the fact that anything that the late night, like World News Tonight and all that stuff says,

that's what my mom believes. So like at 630 or whatever time the local news goes off, they always have that, you know, national news, ABC National or NBC News. And so when they got compromised, this is where all your boomers, this is where all the people that are older than, say, 60, get all. of their news from is the late night news or the uh not the the world news it's late for them yeah it is 6 p.m. 6. 630 that's late that's late night news but this is where they get their information so it was always interesting especially during the biden harris term when i would talk to my mom or you would talk to

your mom or we would just talk to anybody like over the age of 60 65 70 80 in that realm you know they only knew what that six or seven o'clock world news tonight said and obviously everything they said was anti-Republican, anti-Trump, anti-conservatives, and really a lot of it was just anti-American. So we always stood very tall and very strong against that propaganda media. We always definitively stood against Biden and Harris and everything that that administration was doing to completely destroy the country. We have stood against every fashion and faction of groups or people that was against the

people of America throughout our entirety of this podcast. During COVID, we were one of the number one podcast talking about COVID. I mean, we had probably had like 18 to 25 episodes about COVID-19 and maybe more than that. We've had a lot of the top doctors on that came on to talk about what was really going on during COVID-19. And, you know, we've even criticized Trump when it was Operation Warp Speed with the vaccine. We did not believe that the vaccine was tested enough. We did not believe it was safe. I think that we have found a lot of evidence that shows that it wasn't.

and we criticized Trump back then and saying that, you know, even after the fact that he was out of office, even after that people were being forced to take the vaccine and they were losing their jobs and losing their careers because they didn't want to take the vaccine. Trump still doubled down and said that the vaccine was one of the best things he's ever done. And so the Republican Party even then was like, look, Trump, I would not continue to double down on this, especially since your base is not dumb. They kind of realize what went on there. And so it's no different, right? But now it's interesting because Trump's back in office with this Epstein thing or even if I mention Israel or talk about the Israel connection and Israel lobby in America and with Trump. But even the Epstein thing, people get very, they get very upset and very angry. And I guess maybe some of you might have.

And I want to say this because I think this is very important right now. especially with the landscape of the political, I guess, conversation online that maybe some people have a different idea of who I am or even maybe who you are. But who I am, I've always been here to find the truth. A conspiracy podcast is literally supposed to look at the conspiracies and find out who the culprits are. Like who are the people that are really in charge and who's behind the scenes. And so sometimes you've got to wait into your own group of people, right?

or your own thing that you maybe have voted for in the past. And I think that that's what's upsetting a lot of people. But it doesn't upset us and we're going to keep speaking the truth. I just want to make that a very, very clear statement before we went on. Well, and I just want to say, too, that I am more like a Marjorie Taylor Green or a Nancy Mace type person that I'm going to stand for victims, no matter who is up against them because we want truth and we want transparency. And I think it's important for these lists to come out. And it's important for us to know who these major players in Epstein files are. Yeah.

We need justice is what we really need. We need justice for these victims. And we need justice for the American people. Yeah, absolutely. There's a lot of people that, you know, they were waiting on Trump. They're waiting on this administration to come in. And finally that we were going to see, like, who the real evil pedophiles were that in, in large part, run our world, run our country, run our government. and you know when any any group of people any politician tries to downplay that and just pass it off like it's not important no one cares about it when we obviously know that's a complete lie that is when it starts to upset a lot of people that's why there is a complete fracture in the republican party right now the democrats leading into 2024 and especially after the 2024 election had everything gone they were completely screwed they had nothing to run on they had no candidate

it's worth of shit. They had no policies that made any sense. They had nothing. And guess what? They still don't have nothing. They still have nothing. They don't have any real true candidates for president in 2028. They don't really have any true candidates for 2026 in any of the races because of their

ideological craziness, I guess you can say, in a lot of the things that they want to do. And if you look at a lot of the cities that they run, that is absolutely likely what. what will happen to the country if they run it again. They will run it into the ground even further. But the difference is that Trump and the administration, all they had to do was come in, do what Trump does best, which is business, get the country back, you know, economy, lower pricing, do all this stuff. Make sure that it is America first, not foreign nations.

Make sure that the Epstein files are transparent. Make sure that we make, you know, make sure that all the things that a lot of the people that you now have in your administration, a lot of the people that you now have in your administration, a lot of the stuff that they talked about beforehand and promised the American people, they actually do. But instead they did the exact opposite. And when you do the exact opposite, especially to a base of people like Republicans and conservatives, you know, literally the ones that wasn't wearing masks during COVID-19 or double mask

or wearing masks in their car with no one else in the vehicle, these are the people that voted for you. These are not dumb people. You know, these are the people that care about the First Amendment. They care also about the Second Amendment. They care about patriotism in America and a history and the heritage. This is what they care about. They care about, number one, freedom.

And they care about the government working for them, not them working for the government. These are the people that you are now trying to convince that everything that they also believe that Democrats were constantly lying to the American people about, you know, especially the protecting of pedophiles. I got to say, the Democrats did a better job at protecting pedophiles than the Republicans are. because the Republicans are talking too much, especially if they don't want to release the files, you can't shut Trump up. No, you can't. And that is a problem with Trump is he loves to boast about himself. He loves to talk about himself.

He loves to tell everyone how many wars he's ended and how many things he's done great in this job because he wants his name to go down in history. And I get that. And I think a leader in that position has to have that type of boasting, I guess, and like critical thinking about themselves. But that's all he does is talk like great about himself. I mean, he always has. I mean,

that's part of the reason why he's in the position. Yeah. I mean, that's part of the reason he's in the position he's in. That's part of the reason he has been successful, successful in business. But the reality is that sometimes he talks too much, especially about stuff that maybe he has been just hoodwinked into believing.

I don't know any other way to say it. You know, we do have to understand that Trump is in his 80s. And so imagine like, I'm just imagine in talking to my mom, right? And my mom's a smart woman. But, you know, just if I imagine how easy it is that the government of the United States or America, if my mom was president and she's like seven years younger than Trump, how they could completely hoodwink her into believing whatever bullshit they wanted her to believe just

because she became president. She was in that position. I feel like maybe that's what's happening to Trump. maybe someone CIA, whoever, is telling Trump this is all a hoax. They're going to use this against you. They've had these files. They've manipulated them. They've tried to put your name in them.

Or they're going to highlight your name and take their names out. They're going to redact their names that they want to protect and keep the names they want to hurt. Right. That's the only way I can think that Trump would then have to kind of double down and start saying, well, this is a hoax. If anything, the administration should have came out and said and been honest about it and either said, look, we don't have the files, which we know they have technically said that at one point in time. Even though they had notebooks and notebooks and notebooks that they were showing like, we have the files.

They're on Pam Bondi's desk now. Yeah. And they had all the influencers come in. They had this photo op outside the White House. That was all a bunch of bullshit. You know, there was a lot of things that they did that was just the worst PR move that you could possibly do, especially when it relates to the Epstein file. So I do want to go ahead and, um,

Talk about what this bill actually says, right? So this is aimed at mandating the public release of Department of Justice records related to Jeffrey Epstein and associated individuals and entities. So the sponsors and introduction to this bill is Roe Kana, a Democrat from California for himself and Representative Thomas Massey, Republican from Kentucky. And this all happened the date when they sponsored and introduced this bill was back in July of 2025. and it was referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary. And so the key sections on this, Section 1, short title establishes the bill as the Epstein Files Transparency Act. Section 2, release of documents relating to Jeffrey Epstein outlines the core mandate for disclosure. And then also Section 3, report to Congress, requires follow-up reporting on the release process.

And so the main provisions of this, scope or materials, all records, documents, communications, and investigative files in DOJ possession, including FBI and U.S. attorneys' offices covering Jeffrey Epstein and Gislane Maxwell, flight logs, travel records, or any other transportation documents, individuals named or referenced in connection with Epstein's activities, entities with ties to Epstein networks, immunity deals, plea agreements, or non-prosecution agreements, internal DOJ communications, communications regarding the destruction or concealment of documents, documentation related to Epstein's detention, conditions of confinement or death. And then the format of this, materials must be released in a searchable and downloadable

digital format. And so the declassification mandate, the Attorney General must declassify covered information to the maximum extent possible. If full release isn't feasible due to classification, unclassified summaries must be provided. This is where it's going to get a little weird, even though I think they're already trying something different before we even get to a release of files where they highly redact a lot of stuff there which we'll get into in a second but and as it says here if the full release isn't feasible due to classification unclassified summaries must be provided

so how much of this are they not going to release and say well we can't release this because it's classified so what they're saying is well you got to say why it's classified like what are you protecting here and why so is it national security is it victims is it i don't know whoever else um and then no information can be withheld or redacted solely on grounds of embarrassment reputational harm or political sensitivity uh the bill does not introduce new definitions but references existing federal law particularly child sex abuse material or c sam as defined in 18 u.sc uh 2256 and prohibited under 18 USC and so the requirements for Department of Justice is directed by Attorney General with all actions completely completed promptly.

Any redactions must be justified in writing, published in Federal Register, and submitted to Congress. And then for any decisions made after July 1, 2025, the Attorney General must publish details into the Federal Register, including date, authority, and summary, and submit them to Congress. Now, the timelines, full release of materials not later than 30 days after the date of enactment. So that is today. Within 15 days after completing the release, the Attorney. General must submit a report to the House and Senate Judiciary Committee's detailing categories of released and withheld materials, summaries of redactions, including legal basis, and list of unredacted names of government officials and politically exposed persons.

And so then there are also redactions or withholdings are narrowly allowed only for segregatable portions of materials. So that contains personally identifiable information of victims or their medical files. So if disclosure would pose a clearly unwarranted invasion of, privacy, including the CSAM. It would jeopardize an active investigation or prosecution must be narrowly tailored and temporary. So here's the thing about this.

Pam Bondi in the press conference today. Remember this line in this bill said would jeopardize an active investigation or prosecution. That's what it says. Now, we know that this has been years that the Epstein files have been out there. Nothing's happened, right? Nothing's happened about the Epstein files because there's nothing more to say. see. It was all a hoax. Remember? All they found was child porn on Epstein's computer. And there was no evidence whatsoever of him ever being a pedophile or trafficking anyone to anybody. That's what Pam Bondi said. Trump's saying it's a hoax. But then today in a press conference, she comes out and says something that I think that you're going to find very interesting. Because it literally is highlighting a section of this bill that they're going to try to utilize to get around this. To extend it to what?

to not release it is what they're going to try to do, right? That's what I truly believe. So before we get to what Pam Bondi said in the press conference today, I do want to get to what Mike Johnson said. And then there is this. That's what many people said. Mike Johnson, this is a very short clip, about 35 seconds. But I just was wondering how long it would take for Mike Johnson or somebody like Mike

Johnson to say this. Now, obviously, Mike Johnson is Speaker of the House from Louisiana. And he is also a good PR rep. He is. He tries to make things like politically correct, I guess. Well, whatever, yeah. But either way, this is what Mike Johnson said about the files being released, because they're very upset over there on Capitol Hill about these files.

Listen. Security concerns, okay? The discharge requires the Attorney General to release within 30 days, quote, classified information to the maximum extent possible. This ignores the principle that. declassification should always rest and always has rested with the agency that originated the intelligence. Why?

So that they can protect their critical sources and methods. It is incredibly dangerous to demand that officials or employees of the DOJ declassify materials that originated in other agencies and intelligence agencies. Okay. So I will, hold on. Before we even say anything else, I just want to play that one more time because there's just some things you guys need to make sure you. you fully hear.

Okay? Listen to everything again. Here you go. National security concerns, okay? The discharge requires the Attorney General to release within 30 days, quote, classified information to the maximum extent possible. This ignores the principle that declassification should always rest and always has rested with the agency that originated the intelligence.

Why? So that they can protect their critical sources and methods. It is incredibly dangerous to demand that officials or employees of the DOJ declassify materials that originated in other agencies and intelligence agency. Okay. So number one, that is not what it says. The bill actually says unclassified documents. He said that it demands that they release classified documents. That's not what it says.

So he's wrong there. Number one, why would it be a national security issue to release the Epstein files? Yeah, that was my question entirely. Like, who is that going to involve if we release the files and it's a national security? Like, how is that going to hurt our national security? Well, I mean, the number one thing is, you know, he's literally talking about these intelligence agencies and, you know, methods and sources and it's going to really screw them up. So what are you saying, Mike Johnson? Are you saying that this was an intelligence operation?

Well, because he says it's agencies that protect other sources. Yeah. But that's what I'm asking. Like he's almost saying in this little presser and it was a longer presser, but he's almost saying this was intelligence operations that we can't release any of this because it's going to show something that maybe either we or someone else did. Not even necessarily just the United States, but someone else that we were working on some type of intelligence for whatever reason, maybe blackmail. I don't know. Let's just say blackmail. for example, how maybe intelligence organizations could blackmail politicians or foreign nations

could blackmail politicians. And we can't possibly release that because that goes against national security. So what we're saying essentially here is CIA was involved. I mean, there's almost zero question because even, you know, Marjorie Taylor Green and Thomas Massey when they recently did this press conference with the victims, which were going to play in just a moment. but the press conference with the victims, Marjorie Taylor Green, make sure to mention CIA in that presser

because I think a lot of people start to, you know, some people are starting to get like the mainstream perspective of this that intelligence agencies were involved in this. And likely that Jeffrey Epstein was an intelligence asset, whether it be for CIA or Mossad or both. Okay. Gislane Maxwell, obviously we know her father was a Mossad agent.

We also know his ties and Jeffrey Epstein's ties to CIA. we've been saying that for years. We've been called a conspiracy theorist and crazy and everything else. Everybody that mentioned that also said you're a crazy conspiracy theorist. But yet again, all those people that said that are once again about to be proven correct. So. But let's just say real quick, what if it was foreign ties? How is that going to affect our national security?

Well, if they're allies, that's how it protects our national security. if it's an allied operation whether CI and say another intelligence agency was involved, then that's national security. Okay. So if it was just our own like CIA, FBI, all that stuff, that would not affect our national security or does it have to be an outside influence? No, no, no, it's both. I mean, it doesn't matter. If CI is involved, FBI, if there's any secrets that our government holds that they are,

that they are utilized methods and sources to do something or some type of operation, that's when they would say it jeopardizes our national security. But they could also say that with allies. I mean, you could say that not just with Israel and Mossad. You could also say that if that MI6 or whatever. Yeah, MI6 or some other intelligence operation was also involved, right? So, you know, the national security thing almost tells us directly that it was an intelligence operation and likely, in my opinion, that Jeffrey Epstein was tied to one of the intelligence

operations. And as I've already said, Gislane Maxwell, which was his right-hand. hand girl, his madame, she was and her father was heavily involved in Assad. So this is not just all conspiracy theories anymore. Now, Mike Johnson also said this when a reporter found him in the hallway, and I wanted to play this briefly. Here you go. Any reaction to leaders soon? I am seeing the bill without adding amendments or changing it. I am, I am deeply disappointed in this outcome. I think I'm told I've been at the state dinner. I don't know. just told that Chuck Schumer rusted to the floor and put it out there preemptively.

It needed amendments. I just spoke to the president about that. We'll see what happened. So is he, do you think he may veto it? You say you spoke to the president? I'm not saying that. Is he supportive of it in its current form? We both have concerns about it.

So we'll see. I was standing with the Crown Prince. We could involve. Are you frustrated? All right, there you go. So Mike Johnson is very concerned about this bill coming out. Did he say at the end something about a Crown Prince? Yeah, he said something about he's.

meeting with the crown prince so we don't know you know that was today when trump was meeting with Saudi Arabia okay and of course on the day that the files released he goes to Saudi Arabia and he's over there and meeting and all this stuff but so Trump doesn't really have an official stance on this right now he obviously did not show up with the victims a lot of people that were out there with Thomas Massey and also with Marjorie Taylor green so I do want to play briefly that presser it's not very long but I will get to a at least a portion of what the victims say as well, we're going to break down all of this because there's a bigger message to all of this on this episode. We got to talk about like what this really means. Like who should we trust?

Are the Republicans also protecting the pedophiles? How big was this ring? How deep was this in intelligence? And, you know, there's a lot of people also asking the question, is Trump actually involved in this? You know, and the reason why people are asking that question is because as I've already said before, you cannot make yourself look more guilty. Yeah. It's the way he handled it. If he would have just said, yeah, I became president. Here's the Epstein files. Here you go. I'm not a part of it.

Yes, I once had my photo with him or whatever, but I never visited the islands and let it go. But it's the way he handled it and saying it was a hoax. That's why everybody was like, no, you're the hoax because this is not a hoax. Yeah. And listen, you know, the thing that people keep repeating, including especially Mike Johnson, where he says the Democrats didn't care anything about the Epstein files the entire time they were in office. Okay. And as I replied to Mike Johnson's post about that, and I had said on there, I said, okay, so you're saying because Democrats didn't care about it? Now all of a sudden that they're

trying to push it. Now you're going to go against it? What? Because it's Democrats? It just doesn't make sense. I don't give a damn what the Democrats did during their time in office. They're not in office now. The Republicans right now have the House, the Senate, the presidency. They have everything. They literally won in a landslide on all of the swing states. And part of that reasoning of why they did that was because the American people felt like transparency was about to happen. We were about to see people arrested and tried and indicted and everything else. All of the shit that we have heard and all the evil people that we felt like were just

able to reign supreme and stay out of prison and do whatever the hell they wanted to do, the American people felt like because this administration was coming in with the make America great again slogan, meaning like, hey, let's take out the trash in Washington, the swamp. That's what people believe. That's not what's happening right now. And in a lot of cases, a lot of people are feeling really betrayed or now, including myself, to be honest with you.

And I agree with you, Chad, real quick. I just want to say, and it's not just the Republicans. It's the Democrats, too. And I'm just wondering, as a Republican, I'm disgusted with politics in general because they're not being transparent and they're not coming out with the truth. Do Democrats feel the same way that Republican or half, half, half. of the Republican Party feel? I don't know.

Do they feel the same way? Like, they want truth now for sure because the Republicans are the majority. Did they feel like that before when the Democrats were in? I mean, no, because, you know, the Democrats wanted to protect it. And, you know, the Democrats are going to use this as a political bomb. I mean, that's what they're going to do because they have no choice. They have nobody to run anything. They don't have any good policies.

they don't have any good legs to stand on. Their cities are going to complete shit. They completely screwed up the COVID-19 deal. You know, I mean, the way that Democrats have ran this country is horrific. And so the Republicans right now and the reason of one of the reasons, the other reason I'm pissed off is because we are literally given Democrats a get out of jail free card. We are. Because what did they do before?

And did they even care about the files before? No, they didn't. They were protecting people too. Yeah, all of a sudden, they care. And, you know, it is on both parties. I think both parties have a lot of trash in them. Oh, for sure. I mean, well, we should have always known that.

I mean, Republicans and Democrats are both, they're both corrupt, you know, and they're, as we've said many times, they are just two wings of the same bird. Yeah. The bird is going in one direction. Yeah, the wings might be flapping in a different little direction, but it's the same bird. And they're both corrupt. And they all are corrupt, unfortunately, right? But there is hope in this, guys.

And we'll talk about the hope part of this because for the first time, like, we should all strive to somehow reconnect with the other side in some way, shape, or form. Like, let's just find some type of level playing ground, right? You guys might believe this and this and this and this. And we might believe this and this and this. But like, is there any common ground here with the other side of Americans that are politically completely divided? Is there anything that we can connect on? Like, even child pedophilia? like, you know, and these elites that are literally raping children, can we not at least agree on that that we should have transparency and justice for the victims and that the people that are responsible for this, no matter how high up they are, no matter if the Republican Democrat or a CEO of Microsoft, that they should go to prison and they should be held to the maximum extent of law, just like that the government would do to you on a much lesser thing, you know, a much lesser charge.

I would think that Republicans and Democrats could get on board with that. But instead, what I'm seeing online is that there's a fight now, not only in the Republican Party, but it's, you know, the Republicans are fighting with each other because you have a faction of people that are going with the thing that's a hoax and nothing to see here. And then you got the Republicans that actually give a shit that is saying, no, no, no, no, no, it's not a hoax. We know that. I don't care who you are saying that. I don't care if you're Trump. I don't care if you're Pam Bond, your casual.

We're not dumb. No matter whether we voted for you or trusted. in you, we're not dumb, right? So I wanted to play this quick clip and we'll break it down. Thomas Massey and Marjorie's Fader Green. Here you go. Today is the first day of real reckoning for the Epstein class. We're here to stand with forgotten and abandoned Americans against an Epstein class that had no regard for the rules or the laws. This is one of the most horrific and disgusting corruption scandals in our country's history. You had Jeffrey Epstein who literally set up an island of rape, a rape island.

And you had rich and powerful men, some of the richest people in the world, who thought that they could hang out with bankers, buy off politicians, and abuse and rape America's girls with no consequence. because survivors spoke up, because of their courage, the truth is finally going to come out. And when it comes out, this country is really going to have a moral reckoning. How did we allow this to happen? There should be no buildings named after people in this Epstein class. There should be no scholarships named after them. They shouldn't be enjoying the perks of being affiliated with corporations or, you know,

universities or writing op-eds are being lionized. And many of the survivors will tell you some of these people still are celebrated in our society. That's disgusting. There needs to be accountability. And he gave you, this is Rokan Democrat from California. He gave you a lot of clues there of some of the people that are on this list. Obviously, there's a lot of people, I'm sure Thomas Massey, Marjor Tether Green, Rokon, and others have seen probably the list from some of these victims. And so you're talking about university chairs.

You're talking about CEOs for massive companies. You're talking about politicians. You're talking about columnists. You're talking about news organization owners. You're literally talking about the elites of the elites of the elites. These are the people that they got to the islands because they had oftentimes these elites that we're talking about. They have all the control and power. They're the biggest funders to both parties.

And, you know, when you have that and then you can somehow blackmail those people, then you blackmail those people to do what you want to do on behalf of either some deep state operation or foreign nation. Right. Is essentially what that is. But do you not think the names that we've already seen been released from the flight logs would be the same names that went to Epstein Island? Or do you think some of the names were let they were on the list?

Yeah. Well, I know Gislane Max, so I don't know for sure that she's obviously telling the truth. but she said not everybody that was on you know the flight logs either was pedophiles or you know and the list there you know she tries to say there's not a list right and she was like do you really think that we would keep a list of all the people that were supposedly sex trafficking and all this stuff you're not but there's definitely ways in these files that you can connect the big people that've been there you know like bill clinton supposedly 28 times he had been to the island and you know the Bill Clinton thing has always been a big one, but there's a lot of people.

And I think it's going to really blow a lot of people's minds. I mean, I would guess, but we'll see. I want to recognize first and foremost the survivors. They are the ones who made today possible. Many of you had forgotten about this issue. And frankly, for decades, we have not done enough about this issue. And it's only because of their advocacy. Them coming here to the Capitol, they showed up here, a time.

and again and on September 3rd that the country started to pay attention. And I also want to thank the courage of two of my colleagues in particular. Both of them have suffered, as you know, extraordinary political consequences for what they did. One, my colleague, Congressman Thomas Massey, this would not have been possible if he hadn't led the discharge petition that got 218 signatures and is going to force a vote in the House of Representatives. And this would not have certainly been possible if it were not for the courage of Marjorie Taylor-Green. She signed the petition, and I would keep texting Thomas.

Is she going to drop off? Is she going to drop off? Because there was so much pressure against us, so much attacks against her. But she stood with the survivors. For Thomas or me, this has never been political. This is not about questions of Trump or Biden. This is a question of doing the right thing for survivors.

We're going to get a vote today. I expect an overwhelming vote in the House of Representatives, and I don't want the D.C. swamp playing any games. They need to pass this in the Senate, and they should not amend it. President Trump has said he would sign the Epstein Transparency Act. It's going to get overwhelming support in the House. It should go straight to the Senate, and it should be signed. No amendments, no adding loopholes.

Justice is long overdue. and I want to hand it over to my colleague, Representative Thomas Massey. Now, as probably a lot of you, if you've been on social media and you're kind of in this space to where you have Republicans and Democrats talking back and forth on X or Facebook or Instagram, predominantly X, though. And ever since Marjorie Taylor Green got on board and she's been on board for a long time to release these files, you know. And up until when it became very important whether or not Marjorie Taylor Green was going to make sure. that she signed off on this discharge, right? That's when she started coming under intense pressure. And, you know, Thomas Massey as well.

Everybody calls Thomas Massey a rhino. They call him a Democrat in disguise. He is someone that's just in the party that try to ruin the party. That's what Trump's called him. That's what Trump literally came out on a long, true social post, talking about how Thomas Massey is a disgrace and despicable. He, along with the administration, also called Marjorie Taylor Green a traitor, which she'll describe and say why they called her

that in just a minute. But they also met with Lauren Bobert. Lauren Bobert was one that was also going to sign off on this discharge. So the Republicans, it seemed like, or the administration, what I will say, did not necessarily know who they would need to not sign and who they wouldn't need because what they didn't want was this to get out. Now, you can say whatever conspiracy theories you want to, like Democrats have had it. They're going to try to, you know, shift it and.

twist it to it all looks bad for Republicans or Trump or whoever. I don't know about that. All we've been wanting is the Epstein files released. But what I do know is that as soon as any of the Republicans started to speak out about this and especially question Trump and about him saying it's a hoax or Pam Bondi or Cash Patel, they all got, like on the internet, all of the usual names that talk shit or are the paid influencers have went against Thomas. Massey in Marjorie Taylor Green.

They have vowed that in their districts that they will be primary. They will not win their next election. And so this has been forced. This has been them risking their careers. And so I am what I would say, if I was going to be in politics, I would be a Thomas Massey or I'll be a Marjorie Taylor Green. That's what I was going to say to. I would always stand against the bullshit.

Because to me, that is a real leader. Yeah, it has to be. You've got to stand out when everybody else is telling you no. even though, I mean, and it's always for the truth. It's not about for politics. Look, I mean, in Washington, D.C., what most people don't realize is that it is all politics. And I don't think that's ever going to change. And it goes back to the influence of all these PACs and all of the people that pay the politicians

and whatever those people that pay them, the funders of the campaigns, they expect them to do exactly what they want to do. And unfortunately, a lot of these people that pay the campaigns are probably people that are going to be in these files. these are the people these are the elites they were going to be compromised these are the people that their entire lives are going to be ruined because of their actions because they thought that it would never come to the light of day because they had all the power they had the money they had the influence and they've ran and lied and manipulated the american people and the american country for so long they felt like nothing would ever come from this and unfortunately hopefully they are wrong but i'm telling you there's still a fight ahead and we're about to see it this is

just the beginning, guys. Just keep that in mind. This is just the beginning of the fight. And I really truly hope for my own sanity that the Trump administration does the right thing. And they push this through. They make sure that it gets through. But I do not have high hopes for that. I want to start by thanking the survivors. I mean, they're giving everybody hope in this country. There are survivors of other sex crimes in this country wondering if they should come forward. They're clouded with shame and concerned that law enforcement, will do nothing. And these survivors have stepped forth taking that same risk, worried that they will be defamed themselves. They have been defamed for stepping forward. But we're going to get justice for

them. That's going to happen today in the people's house. The founders set up our government with three branches and two branches of Congress. And I don't think it's any coincidence that this fight is being started and it's being won in the House of Representatives. I have people, other survivors, of other sex crimes who come to me and say, thank you, you give me hope, you give us hope. There is hope here. We fought the president, the attorney general, the FBI director, the Speaker of the House,

and the Vice President to get this win. But they never, they're on our side today though. So let's give them some credit as well. They are finally on the side of justice. And as Roe said, don't muck it up in the Senate. Don't get too cute. We're all paying attention. If you want to add some additional protections for these survivors, go for it.

But if you do anything that prevents any disclosure, you are not for the people and you are not part of this effort. Do not muck it up in the Senate. So with that, I just want to say, I am hopeful, too. I didn't know that we would succeed when Roe and I started this effort. Most discharge petitions never make it, maybe only 4%. So we had long odds, but we had some brave women on the Republican side. My colleague Marjorie Taylor Green is one of them who's here with us today. You cannot even imagine the consequences that they have suffered.

My colleague Lauren Bobert and my colleague Nancy Mace, they stood so strong. They put their names on a document in here, and then they were pressured in ways that you cannot even imagine. And they stood strong. And that's why we're here today. And they didn't take us seriously over at the executive branch or in the Senate because they always thought they could flip one of these women. They could convince them or control them or intimidate them into taking their names off of this petition. But they did not succeed. This is a victory for those women and women all over the country today. And I'm just glad to be a part of it. With that, I want to introduce my colleague Marjorie Taylor Green.

And I want to say something just for a second. The fact that in America in 2025 that we have a battle in Washington, D.C. over whether to protect pedophiles or protect victims is insane to me. So like when you guys maybe sometimes don't always understand my anger and my frustration and or my contempt for some of these people in Washington, including people that I've maybe voted for. And we're going to see how this plays out. You know, as Thomas Massey just said, you know, Trump and them are now on the side, but they've been desperately trying to stop this from happening.

They've been trying to manipulate and influence and intimidate. None of it makes sense to me. And, you know, it makes me actually sick to my stomach to think about that, the fact that, you know, the best choice we had for an administration, we're still at this level of politics or cover-ups or corruption. But blackmail goes to the very top. Oh, it does. Absolutely.

And we don't even know how deep this is. But, you know, I even go back to Virginia Jew free where, you know, she died. I think she was murdered. I truly believe that Virginia Jew free was murdered. I did too. You know, they tried to make this car accident that she was in with a bus. like they tried to say essentially that she was in critical condition and all of this stuff because the bus accident and then come to find out all these witnesses said it was literally

a minor fender bender barely even messed up the car she was completely fine yeah but then they said they she had her like a rare like blood disease or something and they had to come up with something else because there were witnesses coming forward to say no she is not in critical condition because the bus accident and then they blamed her husband yeah then they tried to blame the husband or whatever they had to do was what they did. did because I feel like that if Virginia Giffrey would be alive right now, especially with the backlash and a pushback on this file release, I think that maybe somebody, somebody knew that she would either say, I will release the damn files myself or you're going to.

You're going to have no choice. Now she's gone. And so these other women really do have to be careful. And I'll be 100% honest with you. All of these women standing in front of Capitol Hill and even the politicians, Thomas Massey, Marjorie Taylor Green. Nancy Mace, whoever is on board with this and they're the ones that are being very vocal. I understand part of the reason they're doing that is to protect themselves as well.

But they better also be watching their ass because you can't even imagine what this fallout's going to be from exposing the most elite of the elite people as being pedophiles. Oh, yeah. And we've talked to top CIA agents and they say they can do a job and be ghosts and nobody will know what has. happened to those people. Yeah. So anyways, here's Marjor, Tether Green, and then we'll move on. Thank you, Thomas. Thank you, Ro.

I woke up this morning, and I turned to my weather app to check the temperature, and it was 32 degrees. And my first thought was, hell has froze over. I want to speak goodness and love and hope into the women standing. behind me and all of the other survivors whose names you don't even know but stand with these women they are survivors and they are strong and they are courageous and they are daughters of god they are not victims these women have fought the most horrific fight that no woman should have to fight and they did it by banding together and never giving up. And that's what we did by fighting

so hard against the most powerful people in the world, even the president of the United States, in order to make this vote happen today. I was called a traitor by a man that I fought for five, no, actually six years for. And I gave him my loyalty for free. I was called a traitor. I was I won my first election without his endorsement beating eight men in a primary. And I've never owed him anything, but I fought for him for the policies and for America first. And he called me a traitor for standing with these women and refusing to take my name off the discharge petition. Let me tell you what a traitor is. A traitor is an American that serves foreign countries and themselves.

A patriot is an American that serves the United States of America and Americans like the women standing behind me. And I want to tell you that this only became possible today because the American people whom we serve as representatives here in Congress demanded that this vote happened. And they put more pressure on every single elected politician. city than has ever been put on them. And today you are going to see probably a unanimous vote in the House to release the Epstein files, but the fight, the real fight will happen after that. While I want to see every single name released so that these women don't have to live in fear and intimidation, which is something I've had a small taste of in just the past few days,

just a small taste. They've been living it for years. But the real test will be, will the Department of Justice release the files? Or will it all remain tied up in investigations? Will the CIA release the files? Will a federal judge in New York? Sorry, a judge in New York release the information. That's information that needs to come out.

And will the list of names that these women privately hold and they hold it? because of their fear in their heart of what would happen to them if they release it on their own, will that list of names come out? That's the real test. So I want to thank Thomas Massey and Roe Kana for your bravery in doing something, doing something that is much needed in America, crossing the political aisle that has become bigger than the Grand Canyon in America. But these men cross that aisle. on behalf of these women. And that is more of what is needed today in America than ever in our history. I agree.

That just totally gave me goosebumps not only on my arm, but on the top of my head. Like, it is so hard to cross lines like that and to do the right thing in order to do what is right. You know, like you said before, they're sacrificing their political careers. They're sacrificing everything to help these women's. And these women have been fighting for years to have these files released in order for them to even live a normal life. Like they cannot live a normal life because they're in fear constantly. Yeah. Imagine.

I mean, just imagine the amount of weight that comes down on all the victims, just for being victims, for being in a sex trafficking ring of the most elite people in the world. Imagine what that fear would be, especially no way. that they know, that you know, who is the perpetrators, who are the pedophiles. And so they've always threatened. They've always intimidated when people would ever even think about going out to do an interview or to talk to a congresswoman or man, they would, there's victims, many victims said there would be black cars that would show up around their house at night, 10 o'clock, 11 o'clock at night.

They would just wait outside their house almost as a lot. intimidation factor. And we're talking about like, you know, you probably heard of like the conspiracies or just the rumors that if you had ever saw a UFO, like, and then there would be black vehicles that would show up at your house. And that's actually happened to some people, depending on what the situation was. They would show up at your house and ask you a bunch of questions. Or if you talked bad about this or that, I mean, we actually saw it during the Biden

Harris administration when there were people talking out against the government. They did not agree with what the Biden Harris administration was doing. they didn't believe the 2020 election results they didn't agree with the COVID-19 mandates all of this stuff and then you would start seeing FBI show at people's house and then there would be viral videos of this because they wanted that intimidation factor they wanted you to shut the hell up just like they are doing in the UK and all of that but now it's like you know all the the women that even thought about ever talking would be intimidated they would have vehicles following them they would have strange men that look like probably federal somebody that was behind them or around them, around their house.

And that's why I believe this is an intelligence operation. It is. And remember, these women at the time were children. They were children. They're adults now. But they were one time children and they were affected by this. They were raped by men of power. Well, and it's still going on. You know, you guys have to remember, you know, during the Biden Harris administration, when our borders were completely wide open and we have, we still, I believe, have over 300,000 missing children across our border. We don't know where they are.

I can probably tell you that I don't know how many percent of those are in a sex trafficking ring now. You know, we all think that Epstein is the only guy like Epstein. I can guarantee you there are many of Epstein out there. People that we've never even heard the names of. I know. That are manipulating and blackmailing. Another high profile one was P. Diddy.

And I believe that was a influence by CIA, FBI. all that stuff too probably i mean just to influence and blackmail the industry the music industry to do what they wanted i guarantee there's people like that in hollywood to make sure that they stay along the lines of you know for example the far left woke ideologies all the stuff it's just almost damn near impossible that you have an entire group of people that operate in one particular career that all have the exact same viewpoints that's not coincidental that's likely in an operation i mean that that's an intelligence operations. It just makes me so

freaking sad for those women, you know, out there because they were children at the time and they've been dealing with this their whole life. You know, you have one life to live and who wants to live their life like that? There's a lot of people and this is not just them. I mean, and this is part of their thing.

One of the things they say is like, you know, our lives in a lot of ways has already been ruined. And so the best thing that we can possibly do right now is speak out for the women and the young children right now. that are actually still in these sex trafficking operations for political or blackmail purposes. And I can guarantee you there are multiple of those operations still going on to this day

that intelligence operations operate behind the scenes. And when you start thinking about this and like how evil like what we're seeing, you know, and that's what's always been so wild to me is like if you criticize, like, for example, if you criticize Russia or Ukraine or Israel or America for bombing. innocent civilians or whatever the case is. And it's, you know, it's like, oh, you're against America because America's involved in this or Israel's involved in this or Ukraine. You know, remember when the Democrats were in office and all of the Democrats had the Ukraine

flag in their bios. And in many cases, they would have the Ukraine flag in their bios before they would have Russia flags. I mean, United States flags in their bio. And now it's like a switch from Ukraine flags in bios to Israel flags in bios. but it's always a common denominator, which is like not America. It's always someone else that we got to worry about. It's not the people in America.

It's not our veterans that are homeless on the streets or killing themselves every day. It's not the people that we actually sent over to fight our political wars in a lot of cases that we should be caring about. It's everybody else we care about. I care about everybody around the world. I even care about, you know, not even, but even Nigeria. Of course. I know. I care about any innocent life that's being ruined by corrupt politicians.

corrupt people that have money and use their money. Yeah, and they use their money to do what they want with people and get away with it. Yeah, they manipulate and that's what they're best at. And I just hate that. Well, I mean, you've got to think, like, you know, when you look at the most advanced intelligence agencies, those are also the most powerful nations because not only do they operate in other countries to where they just get into so much shit that we should never be involved in, but they also manipulate their own people.

And they use propaganda. intelligence agencies. I think it's also people with extreme beliefs that, you know, screw people over all the time. You know, there's so much evil going on in this world. Well, of course. It's of course evil. But that's what I'm saying. The problem is when you have evil at the top levels. That's when you really have some issues. That's when people's lives are really affected. That's when thousands and thousands of people are dying. That's when thousands and thousands of children are being molested and sex trafficked. And that's why we do this podcast. This is literally the only reason I even care anymore.

I don't give a shit about politics anymore. I don't care about what side that you're on or I'm on. I'm on the side of truth. I'm on the side of finding out who is the real culprits, the real piece of shit in this world. That's what I care about anymore. It's going to be very hard, very, very hard for me to ever on this podcast again, try to convince anyone to vote for anyone again unless it's just, but unless just is

mind blowing to a degree. What was the better choice? What would have happened? I understand that. I get it. If Kamala Harris was president right now. I listen. It'd be way worse than it is now.

I 100% get that. But I guess what I'm saying is just that my faith in politics has has just kind of, it's like someone busted my balloon. Right. And I'm just, you know, flabbergass with it. Now I just want, now we just really got to do what our job is supposed to be, which is to go after corruption on all sides, no matter what. And, you know, it's starting to become apparent on all levels. So I do want to go ahead and play.

I'm pretty sure this is the clip. I need to make sure this is the long clip. Long is in like three minutes is what I'm saying. But this is Pam Bondi and Cash Patel. This is when they are asked about the Epstein files. This is what they had to say about it. It's only three minutes, actually. AG Pan Bonny now says there is a new information or additional information on Epstein.

So remember what I said about what the actual release says. It says that unless they're not. is an investigation going on, then everything could be stopped. So then listen what Pam Bondi came out and said today when asked by a reporter about Epstein files. Listen. By the Southern District of New York, U.S. attorney, prevent the department from releasing all of the remaining files. So we have released 33,000, over 33,000 Epstein documents to the Hill.

And we'll continue to follow the law and to have maximum. transparency. Also, we will always encourage all victims to come forward. What are the next steps, Madam Attorney General, for the DOJ regarding the, what we assume President Trump will sign into law with the Epstein files? Is this going to be on the Justice Department website? What are you doing here over the next 30 days as we understand it? We will continue to follow the law with maximum transparency while protecting victims. When you say follow the law, Madam Attorney General, do you mean that you will provide all the files by 30 days? We will follow the law.

The law passed both chambers last evening. It has not yet been signed, but we will continue to follow the law again while protecting victims, but also providing maximum transparency. Pause. I'm just letting you know. she's just setting this up because there's going to be something. It's going to be redacted, redacted, redacted, redacted. Well, not only that. I think they're going to use this New York investigation.

Obviously, someone in this administration has got a judge to reopen some type of investigation. And now they're going to carry this out forever. This is going to be a new investigation. They're looking into some new people or something. And according to the bill, how it's written, if there's an active investigation, they don't have to release anything. And that's why she's saying, we will continue. to follow the law, the law, what the bill says, the law, the law, the law.

She just keeps saying all this bullshit because she knows she's lied to the American people this entire time, the entire time. Well, you can look at her eyes and see when she's lying. Well, she's lying everything she says. I mean, this is what is so crazy to me. It's like, I don't even think that Trump puts these people in. I think the deep state puts these people in. These are people that are put in place to protect what their secrets are, to protect what

their operations are to protect the blackmail. Well, if you remember, he wanted Matt Gates and he didn't get in. And I don't know if Matt Gates would be any different than Pam Bondi. I don't know. It depends. Well, the reality of this situation, though, is that even if Matt Gates would have got in and he and he butted up against the deep state, which would be controlling Trump and everybody else, he would be gone. He would be fired in a week. And Pam Bonnie and everybody knows that. They basically know. We- sick because it's both sides. It doesn't matter what side you go for.

you don't go for, they're all freaking corrupt. Yeah, they are. All right. Here's the last little bit of what she says. The DOJ statement earlier this year saying that the files would not release mentioned the fact that the review of the documents and the evidence did not suggest that any additional investigation of third parties was warranted. What changed since then that you launched this investigation?

Information that has come forward. information. There's information that new information. Lying. Lying. You are lying your ass off right now, Pam Bonnie. Listen, I want you to hear what this reporter ask her again.

Listen very closely. I mean, this is like so obvious. This is why I don't understand, like how you do not get someone in there at the very least that is better at PR. Like, that is better at public speaking and has a plan.

Yeah, better at lying. Like you need to get some CI. person out there that's like the master manipulator that says and knows exactly what to say on the spot because you don't have that right now you have pan bondi which is literally lying through her teeth she is not good at lying no but listen to what a reporter asked about back in like whenever it was five four months ago about there was no other investigations we're going to do listen transparency that madam attorney general will be d oj statement earlier this year saying that the files would not release mentioned the fact that the review of the documents and the evidence did not suggest

that any additional investigation of third parties was warranted. What changed since then that you launched this investigation? Information that has come for information. There's information that new information, additional information, and again, we will continue to follow the law to investigate any leads. If there are any victims, we encourage all victims to come forward, and we will continue to provide maximum transparency under the law. Madam General, on Ryan, waiting, you mentioned, Madam Attorney, the issue with the new information that you just indicated are, is the department seeking information perhaps from the Epstein estate because Mr. Blanche did not have that information when he interviewed

Galane Maxwell? What new information? And would you limit the new investigation? to just those named persons that the president talked about, or is this a broad, open-ended investigation? I would refer to the Deputy Attorney General's post that he put out on X, and we're not going to say anything else on that because now it is a pending investigation. Boom. Pending investigation. You know what me to tell you what the new information is, Pam Bondi?

You can just tell the reporters this, if you would like. It's the line in the new bill. That's the new information. that says that unless there is another investigation or ongoing or active investigation, you must release the files within 30 days. So what are they doing? They're creating a new investigation. Although literally, earlier this year when they were asked repeatedly by reporters,

this is before any bill was about to be signed or any discharge mentioned with Thomas Massey or Marjorie Taylor Green, Pam Bondi, Cash Patel, Donald Trump, all of them were asked. Will there be any investigations going forward from the Epstein files? Is there anything? And then they said there is nothing right now that we can see whatsoever that warrants any further investigation on the Epstein files. And so they let that go.

And unless this petition would not have come out, we would have never had an investigation in Epstein files. The only reason that it seems like they're doing this is because they're about to tie this up with a new investigation. as she just said, a pending investigation. She's literally telling you, you're not getting these files. And I don't know if you guys can tell who liars are or not, but when she continually mentions information, information, information, new information, new information,

new information, guys, like, she's horrible at this speaking thing to reporters and trying to make it sound like it's truthful. It's just lies. Well, no, she's horrible at lying. Yeah, she is. She's not a good liar. No, she's not a good liar and she's being directed and she is being told. Guess what, guys?

We're opening up a new investigation. Why? Well, because this is the only way we can keep these files from being released. It's the only way. So we have to open up a new investigation. This is how even though Trump may sign off on it and it's going to look like Trump signed off. Yeah. But then they're going to say, sorry, there's an active investigation going on now, guys.

Sorry, we can't release them. So what is the real meaning? behind all of this. Who is being blackmailed by who? Well, that is the real meaning about it. We don't know yet. That's what it is. And I feel like it's both Democrats and Republicans have been blackmailed in some form.

And I'm not necessarily saying it's Israel, but I'm saying they have been blackmailed by somebody. Yeah, for sure. Well, I did want to play this clip as well. And Sherry, you're right. We don't know who the blackmailers are, right? We've talked about it on multiple podcasts. That's definitely what it is.

Well, of course it is. It's got to be. But they've already said that. I mean, they've already acknowledged you. And essentially, Mike Johnson already said it's an intelligence operation. They already said they're trying to protect national security, whatever that may mean, whether it's CIA Mossad or whoever. And, you know, but we went, I want to make it very clear.

We went back and forth with like, you know, now all of a sudden we have a new investigation. We do have the files. We definitely have the files, but we can't necessarily release them because of national intelligence. And then when you hear the. when you hear the party saying national intelligence, national intelligence, we can't say that, we can't say that.

Then you have Caroline Levitt, which is the White House Press Secretary. That comes out on, I think this is Overton News or whoever. I literally never heard of Overton News, but this is what now the White House press secretary, oh my God, this is what the White House Press Secretary is saying

about the Epstein files. might sound similar. You look at how this Epstein story sort of evolved over the past week. It's classic Washington hoax. Yes. You have Democrats on the Oversight Committee leaking redacted information

to their favorite reporter at CNN, who then pops the story with that redacted information and does not reveal that the unredacted version is available. And the unredacted version proves that the so-called victim in this email is a woman who is a woman

who is unfortunately deceased, but prior to her death, said on numerous occasions that President Trump never did anything wrong and was always incredibly friendly in her interactions with him. And so it's a purposeful leak to try to manufacture this new cycle to drag the president. And we've seen this play out so many times. It's a classic playbook of the Democrats using their friends and the fake news to spin up a narrative about the president. And so we just don't tolerate it. we don't give in. We just call it out for what it is.

And we move on. And the victim that she is referring to is Virginia Gouffrey. But that's not really what the files only say, right? The files kind of also say that Trump knew about what was going on with Epstein. Right. That is essentially what the big thing was. Now, they did have the name. Well, obviously he knew about him because he said he banned him from Mara Largo.

Yeah, exactly. But they're trying to make this about a hoax and a Democrat, you know, game to where they're trying to drag Trump. And look, I'm sure that Democrats are trying to do that. Like, you would do that if you're on the other side. And especially, as I've said, how the Republicans are reacting to this. But it's not about the fact that the name of Virginia Giffrey was redacted, although yes, she has been public and transparent with that she is a victim, right? But we also hear from Pan Bonny just now a million trillion times in every speech she says, she keeps saying that we got to protect victims, protect victims, protect victims,

and that we're going to redact anything that has anything to do with victims. But I don't understand that when the victims are literally on a platform outside, all together, speaking with all these senators. Like, how are they, why even redact their names anymore? Well, everybody knows who they are. Well, for their names, I would assume that likely all of those victims would sign something saying you can release my name on anything, right? And with AI now, obviously, if you're the government,

then you could just put all those names in and make sure those names are not redacted. And then any names that maybe you have not communicated with victim-wise, you just don't release, right? Yeah, because there's like thousands or thousands, I don't know. Yes. But there's a lot of victims that have come forward also. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I mean, there's a lot, but there's not thousands, obviously.

There's a lot of people that are too scared. And for obvious reasons, if your government is calling it a host, and some kind of fake Democrat thing and then you see how the Attorney General's reacting to it, Cash Patel, all the rest of them, then you're probably not going to be as adamant to come forward either because you know even Marjorie Taylor Green Thomas Massey, look at what's going on and happening with them. So imagine what a victim would feel like to try to come forward. Yeah.

And I think it's going to happen to Nancy Mays really soon. Yeah. I think it's already starting. I think they're trying to kind of drag her and try to do whatever they can to make her look bad, even though sometimes she does that a little bit for herself. but, you know, I won't even go into that. So Benny Johnson, I want to at least play this. Benny Johnson, probably many of you know him.

I do 100% believe that he is a paid influencer for the Republican Party. I don't even necessarily think that he hides at all. I mean, he does often go to White House and meet with them and whoever. Now, do I think Benny Johnson's a bad person? No, I don't. I do think that, you know, he is a paid influencer by the Republican. party just like there were many paid influencers like Harry Sisson and and all the other, you know, kids essentially that they tried to hire on TikTok and whoever. I mean, we remember

the stage where they were hiring people. They were willing to spend like tens of thousands of dollars on just TikTokers that would just say something good about Kamala or Biden or whoever. But I think, you know, my opinion has Benny Johnson's paid and influenced by the Republican Party. And so this is what he came out and said. And even some of these influencers are starting to come out, but they're still saying some things that kind of make you think like they're trying to kind of push it on Democrats, not necessarily Republicans, but I did want to play this clip for you because I do like Benny. I think he's a good guy. I think he's trying to do the right thing.

But sometimes as an influencer, if you are influenced or paid by a faction or group or political party, it is very tough for you to really come out and say like stuff that we would say. Like if we were being paid by Republicans or Trump or whoever, there's no way in having to that we could ever release this podcast ever ever and so even for people that get mad at us for talking about this and and even potentially criticizing republicans or conservatives although we are primarily conservatives you know for the most part um at least you have someone that's being transparent and not paid an influence that you don't even know what the truth is and and that's what i always say like if you want that go watch mainstream media but and that's why i do like marjorie

Taylor Green said, like, we should have these influencers have to register with FARA, especially if they're, you know, if they are influenced by foreign governments at this point to speak on our political stage, on our political forums or on our public forums like X and whoever, that they're literally being paid to talk about foreign nations. But I also kind of believe that you should have to disclose if you're being paid by a political faction or a group. like if you're an if you're an influencer and you're a Republican or Democrat I believe that underneath whatever video you do from that point on you should say that this video is a paid sponsor by the Republican Party you have to do that via the FTC on you know any campaign ad if you try to run a campaign ad on social media you have to disclose that and many times I won't even let you do it you got to get a license you got to send your license in your address data you got to send all kinds of stuff if you ever want to actually uh

advertise a like a political message on social media. But even with ads, like there's a law that if you have an ad on your show that you're trying to push that someone's paying you for, you have to disclose that. And you'll say, hey, this is an ad or whatever.

But according to, uh, there are no laws right now about social media influencers that are paid by groups or factions or organizations that are trying to convince you of something. And there should be is what I'm saying. But anyways, let's get into Ben and Johnson. He's saying about this bill that I think he said this before the bill was passed, but even still,

I want you to hear it. Deal to protect the Democrat that works with the pet that was in bed with the pedophile trying to get Trump. It's indefensible. How can you do that? What a betrayal of every principle that we have. Do we have any principles? The basement.

Okay. Of every relationship. every relationship is will you lie to my face if your girlfriend your wife is is going to lie to your face if you catch them in just like a simple lie like i went to the grocery store but they didn't like if they're willing to just lie to you you don't have a relationship it's not a functional relationship that's abuse when the gop says they're against the operation of geoffrey epstein but then refuses to punish the people who were engaging, accelerating, creating the power vectors for Jeffrey Epstein to attack Trump, to attack their committees, to attack the Republican Party, to be used as an Intel op, to be used as a foreign operation against our duly elected Republican president, then you're lying to us. And here is where Benny Johnson is lying.

or just severely confused. It's one of the two. He's literally trying to say this is all Democrats doing this. This is Democrats trying to protect pedophiles. We know based on this podcast that that's not true. This is what Pam Bondi said. This is what Trump said,

Cash Patel, the entire administration. The backlash that Marjorie Taylor Green and Thomas Massey and anyone that was even thinking about this discharge petition, that's the, they didn't get heat from Democrats. They got heat from Republicans and this administration. If you refuse.

to punish the Democrats who did that when you have the open goal to do it. You have an open goal. There's no goalie. You have the ball. That's two yard mark. And you refuse to kick it in. Then you show us the game. That is about protecting pedophiles, isn't it? And they're protectors. It is about that. I feel like there's an energy right now. And it's coming from actually both sides. and it's an energy that is led by people who are so sick of being lied to, they're so sick of paying taxes to a pedo cult. And every time the Republicans take an action like this, every time that Mike Johnson and Republican leaders take an action like this

and let these scumbags, here are the people that voted for them. But quite frankly, it's not really these guys. It's Republican leadership that allowed for this to happen. Every time that they do this, they lie to us. and they prove that we don't have a functional relationship. We have an abusive relationship. It's not too much to just ask, are we paying taxes to people who protect pedophiles? And the answer today is yes, yes, you are.

You're paying the taxes, you're paying the salaries of all these members of Congress that just voted to keep Stacey Plaskett on the Intel Committee. Yes, you're paying taxes to a pedophile call. Yes. I mean, that was proven last night. some of the closest friends and allies of this show have been out now like saying that's exactly and precisely what happened. And so Republicans and Congressmen, they had better get their act together. I'm going to come full bore with all the full weight of this program and we're going to come in

swinging. Hell follows with us. You're going to cut a deal to protect a Democrat that was working. with Pito to attack President Trump, we have now the emails that show this entire operation, and you're going to keep giving our goodies just so that someone else might not get censured, weak, stupid betrayal. It's indefensible. I won't allow it.

We won't allow it. Not on this program. This is the program that God's given us. This is the audience that we have. we're proud of it and we've never lied to you and we never will all right so there's benning johnson and look my whole point to this is is that

he is obviously frustrated just like everybody is the problem as i've said at the beginning before i even played this clip is that he has a obligation to i feel like protect the republican party in this entire political nuclear bomb.

And I guess if you are, if he is paid and influenced by the Republican Party, I would like to know whether he is. I don't know if he's ever like admitted that or not. I'm sure that maybe he has. But either way, you know, as I've already said, if you are a, if you are sponsored, and this kind of goes back to even political people that run for office to where when they are getting paid by these donors, they kind of have to. go along with what those donors want them to say and do.

So if that's Israel or Ukraine or some other Microsoft or Google or Big Pharma or whoever, they can't really go against Big Pharma if you're getting paid multi-millions and millions of dollars. And that's literally one of the major reasons why you became president. But do you notice that he always goes after Democrats? Like why? Why can't we go for Democrats to have a common. ground with us. Yeah.

Well, so, and one of the things, like his big message in this clip is the censoring of that Congresswoman that I guess was communicating with Epstein back in 2015 during a congressional hearing in which that she was talking and supposedly they were trying to set Trump up in this and whatever. I don't exactly know. But that's not what we're talking about today. And they're trying to make this a big deal. I mean, they literally just tried to censure this Congresswoman Paddock or whatever

her name is. today or yesterday the vote failed they weren't able to do that and this was all because allegedly that she was communicating with Epstein back in 15 during a congressional hearing to where she I guess maybe was going to try to use something for her or the Democrats I guess political weapon I guess you can say or talking point in that congressional hearing I don't know but either way we are past that now we are at the point of release and now you have the administration that is, in my opinion, pushing back on this more than almost anyone. And unless there's something that we do not know as American citizens that is going on behind

the scenes as some massive sci op operation, you would think that if that was the case, though, that you would have Pan Bondi and Trump and Cash Patel and whoever coming out and saying, hey, look, guys, this was a CIA operation. This was a deep state operation. This was a Mossade operation. This was whatever. And because of that and because of the way they want to control this political party or control this country, then we don't know where the files are. We don't know how they're going to manipulate the files. We don't know if they're going to try to implicate only me or our, you know, I guess, political allies or and they're going to redact the names of everybody that's on their side,

but they haven't come out and said that. Instead, they've literally came out and tried to convince people that this is all a lie. this is all some made up story that Epstein is almost like they're saying Epstein wasn't a pedophile. I mean, Pam Bondi herself already said that all they found on Epstein's computer was child porn. That's it. Downloaded child porn, she said. So not even child porn that actually happened at the island. She was literally in that statement trying to protect.

It seemed like Epstein's legacy. I mean, you know, if all they found was child porn, he wasn't actually a child sex trafficker. He wasn't really trafficking to anyone. And then now they're. they've had to come back and come back and come back. And this is after she said, oh, I got thousands of files in, in these box trucks that we're going to get delivered. And we're going to finally have transparency.

And then supposedly this transparency happened. And they had these files and they got all these influencers, these political paid influencers to get on the White House lawn in front of the media and hold up their freaking binders that were empty with no files or files that everybody already knew about anyway. and they wanted to make this some huge thing. And then when Americans didn't buy it or take debate or, you know, take the bullshit. And they thought they would. Yeah, they thought they would.

And it would just be done and over with. And they would not have to talk about it anymore. But this is the time where Democrats and Republicans actually agree on one thing. I know. Or like a fraction of both. Like to me, that's more important than anything is if we can have a political party come together and agree on one thing. and go after the government for something. Yeah.

Because I know you would love that. The danger is, though, here is that, you know, Republicans are going to demolish themselves in the 2026 midterms in 2028. We're literally on a on a Amtrak or a train headed right for a brick wall that's about to implode everything. And all we have to do, all we should be able to do is be honest, be transparent. release the files because if you have nothing to worry about okay there's only there's only two reasons or three that republicans and they with trump and hotel and pan bondi and whoever else there's only a few reasons why they are pushing back and lying to the american people and pushing

back so hard about this here's a few are the reasons number one you have the president or people close to the president involved to where it's not going to be avoidable that you involve those people. And the reason I say that is because even if you try to say that it's a hoax and you try to say that the Democrats are manipulating the files to protect them and also highlight you, that would mean they have to at least have enough proof to really implicate you, right? So even if Democrats are involved and they don't release the names that are on their sides and their factions and their loyalties, if they have evidence against you enough, that's the only way they'll release that because they know that all hell will reigned down

on them if they don't have the actual evidence and facts behind that. that's number one number two is that this was a massive intelligence operation from either our government or a foreign or both right that's the other thing so you can be protecting that but that still goes back to how evil and corrupt this government or other governments are that would be number two right and then number three is that the political influence on people that are donors to you that you cannot technically release this because of the influence they have over your presidency or over your administration because of the amount of money that they just invested with you.

Say they just gave you $500 million or a billion dollars or this or that or this, then you're going to protect them. I mean, I wouldn't. You know, that's number one. I don't give a shit how much money they just gave me. If I found out that those people were involved in this or were implicated in this, I would say, take your damn money back. We don't need it.

Peace out. We're done. Here's your money back. Take it back. We're done. But would a politician do that? Probably not. So that's one of the only three reasons.

I believe that the administration currently would be pushing back. Because like I said, if it was an actual Democrat hoax, we never, ever heard that ever from anybody until this administration became president and in office. So you guys tell me what you think about it. We would love to hear it. We're obviously going to be on the file watch going forward. I know we all have Thanksgiving coming up. I don't know what will happen.

They have 30 days, apparently, from the DOJ perspective to release the files. That is if Trump signs off on it, I guess. Also, I guess has to go to the Senate. We will see what the Senate does. I think the Senate will pass it. They're going to put it on Trump. I mean, there's no question about that. They're going to put it on Trump, and then they're going to put it on the administration.

They're going to see what happens. Because for whatever reason, they feel like that, you know, this is going to hurt them more than us. And I think that's why the Democrats are pushing pretty hard about it. And it is them versus us. and it shouldn't be like that. Like we need to come together. And now Pam Bondi is saying, no, we have a new investigation. Yeah, of course she is.

That's going to prolong it. Yeah, of course she is. So, guys, let me know what you think. Comment. Listen, by the way, the best way that you can possibly help us, because as we talk about a lot of these sensitive issues, how we title and tag things, you know, if we talk about, I don't know, government corruption or Epstein files or whatever,

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