Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Epstein List Cover-Up | President Trump Doubles Down

Episode Date: July 17, 2025

As outrage over the Epstein client list grows, the Trump camp has dismissed the whole thing as a “Democrat-made hoax” — even claiming the files don’t exist at all. Tonight, we break down this baffling response, why it’s infuriated many in the MAGA base, and what it says about the movement’s willingness to hold the powerful accountable. Has MAGA abandoned its promise to drain the swamp when it’s politically inconvenient? We dig into the backlash, the facts behind the files, and why the demand for truth and justice can’t stop now — no matter who it implicates.Check out our merchandise: https://investigateearthstore.com

Hello me life, show me love, make it change, time is up, we can wait for the days, but the days won't come, show me life, show me love, show me life, show me love, make you change, time is up. We can wait for better days, but the days won't come. Hello and welcome to Investigator's podcast. I'm your host, shout alongside my view. beautiful wife Sherry on tonight's episode we need to have a serious talk about something this lighten up the maga circles and not in a good way the Trump camp's response to Epstein files as you probably seen by now Donald Trump has dismissed the Epstein revelations as some kind of Democrat made hoax and instead of walking that back after the backlash from is on base his team has yet doubled down and let's be real

this isn't just bad politics it's insulting to the millions of us who have demanded the truth about epstein his client list and the powerful people who abuse children this is one that the biggest scandals of our time and pretending it's nothing but a partisan smear is a slap in the face to everyone who cares about justice including his own voters maga has always claimed to stand for draining the swamp for calling out corruption no matter what party it hides in and this is a moment of truth for the maga movement will it stick to those principles or excuse the inexcusable just because it's politically inconvenient tonight we're breaking down what this response means and why it was so tone-deaf what it means for trump's base and why the american people can't let up the

pressure to get the whole truth out no matter what guys welcome to the show it is july the 16th 2025 the name of this song is show me life by scene featuring frank moody and i'm going to go ahead and tell you some of you just looking at social media this episode is probably going to piss you off and it's so crazy how we have a certain faction of people from the maga movement or the maga group or that faction of people that no matter what trump does you know you'll excuse him right and this is the exact problem that MAGA and conservatives and Republicans were calling out the Democrats for the last four years. No matter what, no matter whether the Democrats literally walked a senile president out onto the stage and possibly even drugged him, it was all okay. And the Democrats

consistently made excuses for this. And see, this is not what Make America Great Again means. The MAGA movement is not Trump. It is not about Trump. It is about making America great again. that is about making America better than it was. And so if we're going to pretend like the Epstein files and everything that happened with Epstein is some Democrat hoax, that is definitely not making America great again. So tonight, we're going to talk about all that. Like I said, keep your mind open. We were some of the biggest Trump supporters.

We campaign for him heavily on this podcast, pretty much everywhere. And Sherry, I guess, was probably a little more of a supporter fully than I was at times. Anyway, there's certain things since Trump has been in office. I don't necessarily agree with. Obviously, we're never going to fully agree with any one president. That's never going to happen. And although I will say that I think Trump and his team have done and been doing a lot of great things since he's been in office, this one particular thing is very, very important to a lot of people for obvious reason. I agree with you.

And I am still a Trump supporter. Like I said, on the last Epstein podcast we did or the episode, I was a little aggravated with you because you took your Trump bracelet off. and I put it on because I feel like in my heart there is reasoning behind that and we just don't know what it is yet. And I'm not going to give up my support until I absolutely 100% can support my reasoning for not supporting Trump any longer. But like you said, he's done so many fantastic things in the first six months of his presidency, this term, including the last term, the last four years that he was president, America was

great. We had the best economy. We had the best stuff going for us. And he's getting us back to that. He's trying to get us out of wars. He's dealing with Putin, which is a little harder than what he thought it was going to be. But overall, I think he's doing a fantastic, phenomenal job as president, his second term. And I'm not going to let the Epstein files turn me off or away from Trump at this point.

Now, later down the road, if, you know, things start coming out where he's hiding things, because possibly he was on the island and he's hiding the list for some reason or he was a pedophile, maybe I'll start thinking differently. Yeah. And look, I will be the first to say, I don't think that is why Trump is hiding the list and doubling down on saying that this is some big Democrat hoax. And I'm going to read you what his full true social post is or was today. We're also going to go through some clips of him talking to the reporters today. And a lot of people were actually expecting when Trump talked to reporters today that he would kind of do a 180 or a 360,

180 really i guess you would say he would turn around on this subject he would go the other way especially hearing from his base loud and clear on x which is literally x is one of the if not the biggest social media platforms on the planet right now it is already on most app stores the number one news platform on the internet period and so the number one trending thing consistently for the past week has been the trump administration cover up to the epstein files and especially when You know, you have Laura Trump come out. She went on the Benny Johnson show, which I'm going to play that clip in just a moment, where she said, hey, don't worry.

Things are going to be coming out. You know, Laura was one of the main people. I think she was, I guess she was over the RNC during the campaign for Trump in 2024. That was after they fired the other chick, which was not doing a great job whatsoever. Laura Trump came in. She did amazing for the Trump base and the Trump team and the conservatives pushing the agenda, the mag of movement, everything to get as many people out there. They also were making sure that lawsuits were being filed,

wherever they thought that maybe some voting corruption was happening or whatever the case was, Laura Trump came in and did the dirty work. She made sure that it was a fair election, that Trump was in the right places, on the right podcast, doing the right things, saying the right things. And she was really a brilliant PR person. But, you know, and then she goes on Benny Johnson.

And she goes on Benny Johnson and says something, which we're going to play in just a moment. And then the Trump team, this was two days ago, basically came out and said complete opposite. But when she came out on the Benny Johnson, so everybody was like, okay, okay, at least we have someone that is actually saying that is talking to the MAGA voters. Because listen, this is not necessarily about Trump and MAGA and the MAGA voters at this point. We do have midterms coming in 2026. If you are conservative, right now it looks very dim.

It didn't, you know, two months ago. Well, two weeks ago, even. Yeah, two weeks ago, you know, everything was looking really good for conservatives. Democrats have basically nobody that are going to run in 2028 as of now. I mean, you're thinking of people like Gavin Newsom, maybe. Maybe even talked about AOC. But all of these people are, you know, they're very far left. They're very progressive.

They're going to, you're going to get exactly the same stuff that you got from the Biden-Harris administration. And I think what we may be seeing, and this is just kind of my take. My take is it almost feels like that, and I've said this before, no matter who is in office, that's not really who's running the show. And I know everybody has said that for so many years, but I really truly think that it doesn't matter what president is in office. And I actually think that's what we're seeing today. Because, you know, Trump just attended a massive AI conference yesterday.

That was something I've been critical with Trump about. I understand the AI is advancing. I understand that we have to keep up with China and other countries. But I also understand that the people that surround Trump and the companies that are surrounding Trump that are pushing and investing billions of dollars in AI infrastructure. infrastructure into the United States, those same people are going to be the, what I would call evil scientists.

They remind me similarly to Anthony Fauci or some of the P, some of the same POS people during the COVID pandemic that were on TV every day telling you what you should and shouldn't do. These people are going to be the same exact way. They're just going to do it on the tech side. And they're going to make sure that governments or deep state or entities, even probably the new world order, the, you know, the globalist move. they're going to ensure they're going to be able to utilize their technology to control and to surveil you.

And they're going to do that on mass scale. And they're going to be able to do this because of all the investments under the Trump administration into AI to where they're building out these massive facilities throughout the United States. They are ramping up very fast, I might add, the capabilities and technology of what AI is going to be able to do. And we're not just talking about AI in a sense of surveillance and control, but we're also talking about the amount of jobs that are going to be lost because of this mass investment

into AI. And that was something that someone said yesterday. They said, well, kids, you know, AI is not going to be able to go out there and do HVAC or plumbing or build houses. So if I were you, I would probably definitely go the trade route. Right. And in my opinion, I disagree a little bit because it is building back America as far as bringing companies to America and building within America. So I disagree as far as losing jobs. I think we're going to be gaining jobs. And if we're not going to do it here in America, it's going to happen somewhere else, no matter what. Chinese are going to do it. The Russians are going to do it. Everyone is, you know, it's kind of like the race to science, the race to AI. The race to the moon. Yeah, the race to get there first. Race to space.

Yeah, for sure. You know, and if we're not going to do it, somebody else is. Yeah. All right. So I do want to go ahead and read the Trump. Trump True Social Post, and this was today earlier this morning, about seven or eight in the morning. And he says the radical left Democrats have hit pay dirt again, just like with the fake and fully discredited still dossier, the Lion 51 intelligence agents, the laptop from hell, which the Dems swore had come from Russia, no, it came from Hunter Biden's bathroom, and even the Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia scam itself, a totally fake and made up story used in order to hide

crooked Hillary Clinton's big loss in the 2016 presidential election. These scams and hoaxes are all Democrats are good at. It's all they have. They are no good at governing, no good at policy, and no good at picking, winning candidates. Also, unlike Republicans, they stick together like glue. Their new scam is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein hoax. And my past supporters have bought into this bullshit hook line and sinker. They haven't learned their lesson and probably never will, even after being conned by the lunatic left for eight long years.

I have had more success in six months than perhaps any president. in our country's history. And all these people want to talk about with a strong prodding by the fake news and the success star of Dems is the Jeffrey Epstein hoax. Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats work. Don't even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success because I don't want their support anymore. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Make America great again. So that is what Trump said today. It's all just some big Democrat hoax. That was his true social post. And he also said, for those of you that still care about Jeffrey Epstein, and the fact that all of these elites were being trafficked minors too, and they were having sex with minors, that's all just some big hoax. And if you still believe that, you should just keep walking because he doesn't need your support anyway. Although he just did need your support, which literally allowed him to win all the swing states, the Republican House, the Republican Senate, everything that Trump has right now is because of his supporters.

And I would guarantee that probably 80% of his supporters really, really care about the fact that they felt like, when Trump and his administration came in, we were finally going to have transparency. That is what he campaigned on. Let's drain the swamp. Let's make sure that we are forthcoming about the shit behind the scenes that Democrats have lied to so many people about for so long. Cash Patel went on every single podcast possible and said day one, day one, when I get in there, we're going to expose everything.

We're going to lock them up. We're going to bring them to justice. Pam Bondi for literally the entire term, since she's been AG, she has been on camera multiple multiple times saying hey you know what i have i have thousands of videos of uh these these you know elites basically having sex with children with children and we're going to expose this and the next day it was like oh it was a whole different story and then the next day she had videos again and she had truckloads of fbi documents that they said they're going to release guys listen i understand that there are people out there all on social media right now and especially the paid

influencers because I'm telling you there are paid influencers on both the right and the left. This is not just a left and right thing. This is not just a left thing to where they had paid protesters leading up to the election. I can't tell you how many times I would look at Joe Biden's post. And this was, you know, three or four months before the 2024 election. And he would post whatever he posted. And there would be thousands of comments that looked exactly the same. They were bots. Yeah. They were exactly bots. And they would change one or two things. But then he also had very prominent influencers that would also comment up under all of his post like Harry Sisson and the gauge guy and whoever,

whoever some of the other big ones were, the Crasantine bros. I mean, there's so many of them. But all of these people are paid and propped up to gain influence to then influence the base based on whatever their agenda is. And in that case, it was the Democrats.

Well, I promise you, there are Republicans that are doing the exact same thing. they also are getting money from the RNC and from different packs and whoever and these people are very, very easy to spot. And let me tell you why they're easy to spot because there have been people, some of these people I'm talking about a year ago when Trump and Cash Patel and Dan Bonjini would always talk about the Epstein thing. These people, you could go back on their timeline and see everything they said about Epstein, how in support that they were in holding everyone accountable that was hiding the EPSTine. that was hiding the Epstein files.

They said how big of pieces of shit the Democrats were because they were covering up the Epstein files. They said everything they possibly could. And then now, as soon as the Trump team comes out and says, this is a hoax. And then they all in unison come out with the almost exact same messaging and say, if you're not MAGA now and if you're not supporting Trump now, then you're a fake supporter. You're woke. You're a far right or far left in some cases they're calling us now.

these are paid supporters and it's because they exactly align and go with every single messaging point that Trump has. If Trump came out tomorrow and said, guys, or not even Trump, say Cash Mattel came out tomorrow or someone on that team, if they came out and said the opposite, you would see in unison those same accounts go exactly with whatever that messaging was. These are paid influencers and it's not just bots. There are actual people behind some of these accounts. And so I just, it just I understood and I've always known that there were paid influencers on the right. I mean, and I would probably include Benny Johnson in that. You know, obviously Charlie Kirk.

Charlie Kirk. I mean, you know, he has turning point USA, which is a massive, massive thing. He didn't just do that by himself. He didn't just put all the funding into making this movement, a mass movement, especially on college campuses and high school campuses, all of this. These influencers are also paid. They are influenced. They have to say whatever the messaging is.

If they don't say what the messaging is, they don't get paid anymore. And this is their entire livelihood. But you also have to understand that a lot of these influencers have a lot writing on them saying the correct thing. There's probably a lot of different organizations are involved in. There's a lot of different speaking engagements they get paid for. There is a lot of money coming into these people. And so what I'm saying is that for the people out there on social media, and I'm seeing some of them, And I know that some of you guys, some of our listeners, I've seen some of you, comment on our post or some of our friends like close friends on Telegram would say trust the process. This is what I hear.

Trust the process. You know, he's doing this behind the scenes. He's got something big coming. He's got some big thing coming behind the scenes and he's playing chess. Donald Trump's not playing chess. Donald Trump is doubling down on covering the Epstein case up. And the biggest question is why. That is the question. It's not that he has some big. conglomerate plan in the background because I can tell you guys that I've heard that shit too for the past four years I've heard that Trump had Trump was behind the scenes he was the one really in charge and he was in charge of the military you know where all of that messaging comes from Q and on it is all from Q and on accounts there are Q&on accounts on telegram there are Q&Q&O Q&N accounts on X there are Q&O there are Q&AX there are Q&O which by the way for those that do not know I believe is a government sciop I believe

Q is a government sciop I believe number one they heavily use it obviously during January 6th. You had, you know, you had guys like Jake Chansley. They referred to as the QAnon Shaman, which Jake has been messaging us lately. And he has a lot to say about this. No, I'm not saying Jake's paid. What I'm saying is, is that they, the media and the Democrats, heavily used the Q&on thing for January 6th.

But what I don't understand is when they campaign on this thing, yes, the first day I get in office talking about Cash Patel, Pam Bondi. we are going to release those files. They're on my desk. We're going to go through them. We're going to let the public know. We're going to protect the victims, but we are going to out the perpetrators. We're going to let you know who these people are and we are going to find justice to these people.

Why now the turnaround when they campaigned about that is what I don't understand. Something to me feels like something has happened behind doors that we don't know about because this is like, I said, this is what they campaigned about. They said, we want these files out as much as you do. And then, you know, it's 180 degree turnaround. Yeah. There's something going on that we don't know about. And maybe it is the NGOs.

Maybe it is foreign countries that are blackmailing like we talked about in the last podcast. But there's something going on that they can't tell us. And I'm hoping when people say trust the process, that the process will come to an end where there is disclosure in transparency. Yeah. Because it's not going to stop. It's not going to go away until people have the truth.

No. And it just makes Pam Bondi look like complete shit right now. And especially when Trump was interviewed the other day by his plane and they were asking about the Epstein files. He's like, you know, Pam Bondi is doing a fabulous job. I'm so proud of her. She has briefed me very slightly. which makes me feel like he doesn't know a lot about it or he doesn't want the public to know he knows a lot about it.

And he said whatever decisions she makes, she's making the right decisions. Yeah. So he's putting it all on Pam Bondy. And Pam Bondi is almost like the fall guy. You know the person who we need to hear from? And I always say her name wrong. It's either Gisling or Gisling Maxwell in prison because she's the one that knows the truth. Well, you know, Jayes Lane just literally reached out to her attorneys.

She told the media and the government and whoever, she wants to testify. She knows who's on the list. She said she knows exactly who's on the list. And this is not some hope. Of course she does. She was there. Yeah. And so she knows everybody.

She knows the whole deal. She wants to speak in front of Congress and she wants to tell Congress what she knows. And she's getting shut down. Well, here's the thing. So Marjorie Taylor Green, which, listen, I got to be honest, there's really not a whole lot of people in government right now. I trust a lot. and I know there's a lot of people that talk shit about Marjorie Taylor Green. One thing I do respect Marjorie Taylor Green on.

She did campaign for Trump. She campaigned very heavily for Trump. She did a lot for Trump. And when Trump started to do this shit about the Epstein files or there's been certain things, she will call him out. She'll call him out in public. She'll call him out on the news. She doesn't give a damn.

And I do think that she truly does care about like, you know, transparency and truth. There are a few of those that still care about transparency and truth. Well, and Laura Loomer is another one. That's like that. Hummer is not. She campaigned for Trump pretty heavily. Oh, absolutely. She was Trump camp, but she is like, what the hell is going on here?

Yeah. Release the files. We need transparency. And if we don't have that, that is going to divide the Republican Party. Well, I mean, the reality is, too, that, you know, if it is true that potentially Israel has anything to do with this, Laura Lumer is going to wish she did not campaign so hard for the transparency of these files because obviously she. She is a, she's Jewish and she's big on the Jewish side in the pack.

She always supports Israel. She always supports A-PAC. She supports all that stuff. But she's been very critical about the Trump's administration and their handling of the Epstein file so far. But I do want to play this real quick. This is, um, this is Laura Trump. She went on the Benny Johnson show and this was kind of after the initial backlash when

everybody was going crazy and saying, what in the hell is going on? There's a lot of people right now that just feel betrayed. They feel like, damn it. I thought maybe we finally had someone in that was going to not lie to us. And I think a lot of people right now feel like there is someone yet again lying to us and maybe as someone that you voted for. But then again, when the JFK files came out, we kind of felt lied to too. Yeah, exactly. But, you know, I mean, that's what the government does in whole.

And that's why it is always very important to have someone in government that is speaking on your behalf. All right. So now I want to jump over to the Benny Johnson interview with Laura Trump. It's not very long. It's about two minutes and 26 seconds. but this was Laura Trump going on to Benny's show and this was after the initial backlash when Trump was basically like, look, who gives a shit about Epstein anymore? Why are we still asking about this?

This was after our first episode on the Epstein cover up just about a week ago. This is what Laura Trump came on to say and this was before the happenings over the past couple of days. What would be your advice. You know, given this back and forth, you know, we're just coming off of turning point here in Tampa. You know, this was the topic of conversation. What would be your advice in order to take the temperature down on this issue from within the administration?

Well, I do think that there needs to be more transparency on this. And I think that that will happen. I mean, look, I don't know what truly exists there, but I know that this is something that's important to the president as well. He does want transparency on all these fronts, that everything we're talking about, because it's frustrated him as well. He sat for four years like the rest of us did and saw lie after lies, our country just being sent down the wrong path. And it was really frightening, very upsetting to a lot of people to see. And I would actually say it was the past 10 years. We've all kind of endured this. Prior to that, it was probably happening, Benny, but we just weren't as aware of it. It wasn't until Donald Trump came down

that golden esclair, then he just kind of blew the doors of everything. People starting to wake up and realize, wait a minute, things are not as they have always been presented to us. And I do believe that you will see that. No, as it relates to the president, I know that this is probably not his number one thing he's focused on. He's focused on a lot of other important things. We've got this big announcement with Russia going on. I think as we're speaking right now at the White House, we have, you know, Middle East who are trying to get peace over there. We're trying to make sure that Iran's nuclear arsenal is obviously completely decimated. We want to make sure everything is on the right track for this country. Fortunately, you've seen no border crossings

in the last month, zero, by the way. I think that's incredible. And no one's talking about that enough zero illegal order crossings in the month of June. Amazing how that's all gone. So I don't know that this was top of mind for him, but he hears all the noise and he hears all of the consternation out there. And I think he's going to want to set things right as well. So I believe that there will probably be more coming on this. And I believe anything that they are able to release that doesn't, you know, damage any witnesses or anyone underage or anything like that. I believe they'll probably try to get out sooner rather than later, because they hear it and they understand. it. So hopefully we see that happen sooner and the later. And that, I guess that would be my

advice. But to everybody out there who's all worked up about it, there's no great plot to keep this information away that I'm aware of. I do just believe that maybe it's been slow roll for reasons that hopefully we understand down the line. And I think we're probably going to get more transparency on it very soon. Okay. So as you heard, Laura Trump says that, you know, Donald Trump really does want transparency and he is you know he does care about this and you know he campaigned on making sure that we were fully transparent and but she also said that it was not the most important thing on his list which it's not war is number one to him economics is number two yeah which we're about to send more weapons to ukraine again and which you said that we were not going to do but

you know maybe you can solidify or justify that by saying that you know trump or not trump but but putin is not playing by the rules and he's got 50 days and you know i understand that you know but also you got to keep this in mind as well. You know, Trump in his campaign said on day one, I could have stopped that war. When I get in office, I will stop it within 24 hours. And I'm sure Putin's over there like, the hell you are. Well, I really believed him. And I think he believed himself.

I thought he could stop the war, you know, between Russia and Ukraine. And I thought he had a better relationship with Putin. And Putin's kind of like F off Trump. I don't care who you are. Yeah. You know, and Trump, he is a little bit of a narcissist. And he thinks he can get things done. And that is why he is successful and prosperous in his life because he knows how to get the deal done.

He knows how to do the deal. And with Putin, it's just different because he is playing level grounded heads with a man that will not back down. And it's just very disappointing. But you also have to remember, like Trump said, he came into this presidency with us already in a war. Well, not us. but Ukraine and Russia in war. Basically. He's trying to stop this problem.

He's trying to save lives and get this war stopped any way he can. But this problem was handed over to him. Yeah. And we got to remember that. I understand that. But, you know, it's like I said, you know, when you're going to campaign and you're going to consistently say that you'll stop it within 24 hours and Putin's going to listen to you. Yeah.

You know, Putin is a massive, massive leader. And he is someone that is not just going to bow down to Trump because he's Trump. I mean, that's just not going to happen. And I think probably the messaging leading up to the campaign is likely maybe why Putin is like, nah, screw that I ain't freaking working with Trump. But there's just a lot of stuff here that doesn't make a lot of sense. You have Laura Trump. As she said, you know, the base was sick of being lied to for four years.

Trump wants transparency. He wants clarity on stuff. And so today, Trump was asked in, I think this is the Oval Office. He was asked about the Epstein again. And this is what he said. This was just today to the reporters. Listen. I don't move past all this intrigue over the Epstein files,

but I do want to ask you to clarify something you said this morning. You said this was all the hoax. Has your Attorney General told you this was a hoax? What evidence have you seen in that? No, it's not the Attorney General. No, I know it's a hoax. It's started by Democrats. It's been run by the Democrats for four years.

You had Christopher Ray in these characters and Comey before him. And it's a bad group. It started actually look at the Steele dossier that turned out to be a total hoax. The 51 agents, the intelligence, so-called intelligence. agents. It was a hoax. It's all been a big hoax. It's perpetrated by the Democrats. And some stupid Republicans and foolish Republicans fall into the net. And so they try and do the Democrats work. The Democrats are good for nothing other than these hoaxes. They're bad for policy. They're bad for picking candidates that can get elected. Like in New York, we have

a communist running. He may get elected to, actually, but he's going to destroy the city. No, no, I call it the Epstein Hooks. It takes a lot of time and effort. Instead of talking about the great achievements, we've had a great gentleman. Yesterday, as you know, went on CNBC, and he made a statement that Trump may go down as the greatest president of all in the United States. And instead of talking about the things we've achieved, we've had tremendous achievement. They're wasting their time with a guy who obviously had some very serious problems, who died. three, four years ago, I'd rather talk about the success we have with the economy, the best

we've ever had, and all of the things we've done, including the Middle East. I mean, you see it. So he's just not only doubling down. He's calling a lot of his supporters stupid. Yeah, that was not a good look for Trump. No, I mean, and it's the same thing that a lot of people think about when Hillary called Trump supporters deplorable. I mean, it's like, oh, now you're basically saying that the people that want transparency

on the Epstein case, deplorables. And listen, I want to make something very clear for a second. We have to talk about this. He's saying this is a massive hoax by the Democrats. And that's just not true. He's comparing it to Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, you know, the Russia collusion thing. He's comparing it to the laptop.

He's comparing it to, you know, all these things that they, the spying on his campaign, the New York prosecution against him. And, you know, he's literally putting the Epstein, case in the same bucket, which is nuts. And like whoever is advising him is psycho. And, you know, I was, it was funny, I was watching him respond again outside of his aircraft. And Caroline Levitt, which is his White House press secretary, you know, she always wears the cross.

She's a big Christian girl. And he was sitting here saying, it's a hoax. It's a hoax. And you could just see her face. She was trying to kind of keep it together like, this is crazy. Well, her face was like halfway in the video. but I agree with you, but why is he turning it into a hoax now? And you know, what's really odd to me is when Pam got those files,

remember the binders? Yeah. Oh, yeah. There was binders and binders and binders. In the cover page of the binders said White House, Trump will be transparent. Yeah. Is what it said on the top of the binder. Well, yeah, and they had all these influencers.

Or something like that. But listen, they had all these influence. to the White House. It was a big photo op. It was all propaganda, in my opinion. And when I say that there are paid influencers on the right, well, guess what? All of these people that showed up at this event, I guarantee, were paid influencers. That's why they went along with this bullshit, this photo op.

This is all it was. Why don't they just take those binders and redact them? There's nothing in the, no, listen, there's nothing in the binders except for what everybody already knows. We already know what's in those binders. Okay. So release those binders. They have.

It's all the same shit that we've always had. It's public information that we've always had. And they tried to pass that on to the public. Like, hey, we got the- And it's not. It's all the same bullshit. It's very similar. So you're saying they don't have the information.

No, they have the damn information. Listen, if they didn't have the information, they wouldn't be covering up for it so much. Trump wouldn't be getting pissed off every time he's being asked about it. But what if they don't have the information? They do. Well, then they would say that. If you don't have it and it's been lost or destroyed, then you would obviously come out and say, look, I think the Democrats destroyed this evidence or not the Democrats, whoever, someone destroyed

the evidence. We can't find it. We don't know where it is. We have had all of our agents from the FBI go through everything we possibly have. We cannot find any evidence anymore. Maybe it was destroyed. We don't know. But we can't find anything.

They're not saying that. They're saying this was a hoax. That is what the president of the United States is saying, that this is a Democrat. propaganda hoax. The Epstein thing was all lies. Well, let me tell you, it wasn't all lies. Let's just go through it for a second. Epstein's criminal charges and guilty plea 2007, 2008. In 2007, Epstein was formally charged in Florida with soliciting a minor by prostitution and procuring minors for prostitution. He struck a secret non-prosecution agreement, or also known as an MPA, with the U.S. Attorney Alexander Acosta. This was exposed later in the Miami

Herald's perversion of justice series. Epstein pleaded guilty and in 2008 to two state felony charges of soliciting a minor for prostitution. He served a 13-month sentence in Palm Beach jail with work release, which basically means he was hardly ever there. And then Epstein arrest in 2019 on federal sex trafficking charges on July 6, 2019, and this was obviously under the Trump term at that time because Trump was elected in 16. Epstein was arrested by federal agents at Teeterborough Airport in New Jersey upon returning from Paris.

He was charged in the Southern District of New York with conspiracy. to commit sex trafficking of minors, sex trafficking of minors. U.S. attorney Jeffrey Berman announced that Epstein's abused dozens of underage girls in his Manhattan Mansion and Palm Beach Estate between 2002 and 2005, paying them to perform sex acts and recruiting others.

Jislane Maxwell in her conviction. It was Epstein's obviously closest associate. We've already talked that she wants to go in front of Congress. She was convicted in 2020 or sorry, 2021 of conspiracy to entice minors to travel to engage in illegal sex acts. Conspiracy to transport minors with the intent to engage in criminal sexual activity. The sex trafficking of a minor and transported a minor with intent to engage in criminal sexual

activity. She was sentenced to 20 years in prison. Then you think about the witness testimony and victim lawsuits. Dozens of women, many under oath have testified that Epstein lured them as teenagers under the guise of massage appointments, assaulted them repeatedly at his Palm Beach estate, Manhattan Townhouse, and in his private island, Little St. James, in the U.S. Virgin Islands, asked them to recruit other minors. Many of these women followed civil suits, many settled.

And in many of these suits, there were many high-ranking elite and politicians that were mentioned that were never, ever released. The names were redacted in many of these cases. We don't even have none of that because there's gag orders in all these cases. I mean, think about Virginia Jew free versus Maxwell. That was one of the witnesses, and now she's dead, of course. And then you think about Epstein Island, Little St. James. Epstein owned Little St. James Island in the Virgin Islands, court records and victim

testimony described as the site of frequent sexual abuse of minors, a secluded location he used to avoid law enforcement scrutiny, and staff have testified that they ordered not to speak about VIP visitors, VIP visitors, aka the politicians, the elites, everybody. And property records confirm he owned it. U.S. Virgin Islands Attorney General filed a civil suit in 2020, calling the island the center of a massive sex trafficking scheme. And this was the U.S. Virgin Islands Attorney General that filed this because the United States wasn't doing shit about it. They weren't going to expose anything.

And that was when the Attorney General down there in the Virgin Islands said, we got to do something. I mean, we know what the hell is going on here. We got to stop it. Yes. And then statements from his own legal team allies. I mean, Pam Bondi, obviously Trump's AG, Bondi did not publicly exonerate Epstein, but she called his conduct disgusting and defended Acosta's MPA decision as the best

deal that could have been struck. And it was a sweetheart deal. That's all it was. They wanted to try to keep him quiet then. But then came the Southern District of New York in federal charges that brought these charges on Jeffrey Epstein and then, of course, Maxwell. But she said it was the best deal that could have been struck at the time, acknowledging his crimes but downplaying prosecutorial failures. And then Alan Dershowitz publicly acknowledged Epstein's illegal behavior, but claimed he himself was falsely accused. And in our last episode, Dershowitz went on the record and said, look, there's a lot of politicians and elites on this freaking client.

obviously he would know because he was his attorney. And they're Republican and Democrat. Yes. And then Ken Starr, even Ken Starr, who helped Epstein negotiate the NPA, later called the conduct heinous. And then you think about the flight logs and BIP guest, FAA flight logs released in litigation and by investigative journalists show many high profile people flew on Epstein's plane, dubbed the Lolita Express to Little St. James, although this is not necessarily

prove that everyone that flew on this plane was complicit. But it does confirm his use of the island for. private gatherings during the same period victims say they were abused by VIPs, politicians, and other people. And so this is why it's not a hoax. Epstein pleaded guilty to crimes against minors. He was federally charged for sex trafficking and died awaiting trial. However, that happened, likely killed.

Jisleine Maxwell was convicted of trafficking minors for him. And then dozens of victims testified and were awarded settlements. U.S. Virgin Islands formerly accused as a state of running a child sex ring and his own lawyers acknowledges his crimes. So this is not a hoax. This is not some propaganda hoax by the Democrats. Right. So the biggest question that everyone should be asking themselves right now is why in the hell is Trump in front of all the media?

Saying is a hoax. And like we're supposed to believe that. No. And that's why it's to me, like it said, anybody that was on the flight log, you can't necessarily accuse them in engaging in sex acts with minors. But you can accuse them of being on the island and probably knowing anything. inappropriate things were happening on the island during their visit. Yeah, for sure. And I hate to say it, but Trump was one of them, just like Clinton, just like many other elites.

We've all seen the list of the many, many Hollywood stars, the elites, the singers, everybody's been there. Well, listen, we don't know, I mean, I don't know for sure that Trump's been to the island. I mean, I think that maybe. I thought his name was on the log list. I think it was maybe on the flight log. And we do know that, you know, Jeffrey Epstein was at Marlago, although, allegedly. I guess he was later kicked out because maybe Trump felt he was weird. Something happened with that.

But I want to get to this real quick. And this is Alex Jones take. Now, we played Alex Jones on the episode a week ago. And there's going to be a couple of videos where Alex Jones talks about us just briefly. But this in particular, Alex Jones says, Trump says he will excommunicate anyone from MAGA that continues to question his admin's bizarre handling of the Epstein case. And the reason why I like to play Alex is because we've covered Alex a lot on this show. over the past seven years, eight years, however long it's been. And, you know, Alex Jones has been a very big supporter of Trump.

I mean, he talks to Trump decently often, or at least he did. I don't know he's going to now. But, you know, Alex can't not come out and say something about this. And I believe that anyone that has any type of sanity can't call Trump on this shit. Because if you don't call Trump on something like this and Trump's team, then you are in a cult. That person can then tell you to go and jump off a bridge together and you believe it because you're in a cult. You should never make someone a cult like figure of any type, whether it's a politician, whoever it is. I understand that we desperately want and need a president in office

that's going to be there for the people and for justice and transparency. But that does not mean that you have to worship this leader like God. And I think that's what a lot of people have done. And I think a large part of that is because of what they had for the past four years. And, you know, Trump didn't have to deal with this Epstein thing in 2016 and beyond. But he does now. And he's not doing a very good job handling this. This is what Alex Jones had to say when he first heard about Trump's true social post, which we just read a minute ago. Here you go.

I'm glad the Democrats aren't in. And I like a lot of the success you're having. And we're all having together. And your statements about, you know, you people that bring this stuff. I don't even deserve to be involved in this movement. You are excommunicata. You are henceforth ex-catheter from the mouth of the God King. You are expelled from the Church of the Holy Golden Toad, Donald John Trump.

Well, I was never in the Church of the Holy Golden Toad. I do like you being a maverick, standing up with the country. We have the same enemies. I respect your stamina and courage. Been a big cheerleader when I agree with what you're doing. But if I'm being excommunicated, let me be clear, I was never in your church to be excommunicated. So you can't excommunicate me because I was never in your church. I was never in a cult.

And I never said Manga was a cult. I said a lot of people want it to be a cult. You know, there are Dallas Cowboy fans that are. in a cult and literally commit suicide if they lose, you know, the playoffs. The Dallas Cowboys is an occult, but there are people that have made a cult out of it. So being a dog owner doesn't mean you're in a dog worship cult, but the Zoroastrians do worship dogs. So you see what I mean? But now Trump, if this continues down this line, if he starts saying I'll excommunicate people,

well, you're not allowed, unless it's a cult, to say to people, you either agree with everything I do and don't question things or you're not in our club. I don't want you. Well, that kind of sounds like a thoroughbred cult to me. and if I keep hearing more talk like that, I'm just, it's basically where I'm already at. And I already said this. I'm going to give Trump report cards.

It's basically what I already do. But we're officially going to start doing it on basic issues. I'm going to get the head of the John Burns Society on who actually puts out report cards or the experts on it, the really good report cards. And we'll just start doing a monthly report card on Trump and say, okay, in our view, he did good here. You can look at the report card. You can look at where he did bad. And that's it. And so I'm not going to be emotionally invested in this because I've never been a joiner.

I pride myself and then I'm the captain of my ship and people support what I do or believe a lot of what I'm doing is right. Then you support us. But when somebody starts saying don't question things or you can't be in our club, yeah, that's a cult. And I'm not a cult joiner. I never have been. You know, my operation's not a cult.

My crew is not a cult. You don't have to agree with me around here. People see my host saying different things than me. I respect them. I think they're smart. We agree on 90% of stuff. But that's what I want is to have good patriots that really care. And we agree on 90, 95% of stuff.

But I don't, people say, I don't get this. Harris Smith says something different than you. And so did Owen. What's going on there? We'll see. Because this is about individualism. We're not in a cult. And so I pride my relationship with God.

my family, my country, and my ancestors being ridiculous badasses across the board, just goes from incredible to insane. And I never get into all of it, but it's prestigious on both sides, just all the way back to freaking, you name it. And so, I mean, I got the blood of the Vikings that conquered England. All right, anyways, we're not going to get it. We're not going to go to whatever. That obviously pissed him off.

Yeah. Well, I mean, I think it has everybody. And it does piss me off too because I am a proud Trump supporter and I am a Republican, but I am wanting answers to these questions as well. I want to know the why behind it. Why are you not releasing them? Why are you lying and expecting us to believe the lies you're giving us? It's a hoax.

It's not a hoax. there is a list there have been victims all over the country by elites by politicians by prominent attorneys by princes yeah by a lot of people and we're protecting them why are we protecting them who is tying your hands behind your back well i do have a theory and although i do not know this theory and we talked about it about a week ago on the first epstein cover up episode and we talked about israel and if you guys have not listen to episode go back and listen um we talk about you know some of the ties especially as far as you know epstein and gisling maxwell or gislane maxwell and you know i i agree with alice jones on this

and you know the name of this podcast is not the chad and sherry trump podcast it's not the chad and sherry conservative only podcast we talk about things on both sides we always are do our best to expose corruption that is our number one you know i'd say something the other day. We're kind of heavily involved in our area in South Carolina with this sheriff race, this in Spartanburg County, you know, and, you know, there's a lot of people out there that are running that were a part of the Spartanburg County Sheriff's Office for and under Sheriff Chuck Wright, which was the one that allegedly did a lot of bad shit and was very corrupted. And, you know, I, one of my things I've told people recently is like, you know, if, if some of these people,

and I'm not saying they're bad or corrupt necessarily, but, you know, you did at least work under him you likely especially if you had a high up position like as a corner or like as a lieutenant or like as some of these high up positions don't tell me you did not see the warning signs all over the wall because you know nick did nick duncan saw these warning signs all over the wall um that's why he literally stuck his neck out and left spark murray county and uh to pursue that he wanted to make change in sparking sparking his sanity his livelihood his everything um You know, his popularity, his sleep. Because, you know, you go against Chuck Wright in Spartanburg County.

Oh, yeah. You're going against God. Yeah, basically. I mean, you're, it's like kind of the same way with Trump right now. It's like one of Trump's big, I don't know, say Cash Patel left the White House and went against Trump and exposed his corruption. It would be the same thing. Or Dan Bonino, I think, would be more appropriate right here.

Or whoever. But, yeah. But, you know, that's basically. what Nick did for Chuck Wright or, you know, against Chuck Wright to expose all that stuff. And so one of my things I've always said is like, you know, you have to have leaders that are not afraid to risk it all to expose corruption. And it doesn't matter. And even if it's an unpopular thing.

Yeah, absolutely. And even if it is, you know, it's your sheriff, it's your president. It's the guy that's in the same party as you. It's the guy that you hold a lot of the same values to. Maybe it's a guy that's helped you in the past. Maybe it's a guy that helped you along the way. But the reality of this is, is that I think that you have to have someone that is willing to put it on the line for the truth. No matter what it means, no matter who it exposes, no matter what it does to you, you have to have the integrity to stand out and stand up.

And that's why, and this is not a campaign ad for Nick Duncan, but I'm just saying. And that's what I'm saying is that Trump has to step up right here. He has to either drain the swamp and expose the corrupt. or he's going to be one of them. And all that's going to do is divide the Republican Party. And that's what makes me so sad is because we had such a united front going into this thing when Trump ran for president and became president. It was unanimous.

Everybody wanted change. Everybody wanted this. And they believed in him and they stood by him. And now it's like backing us up and the midterms are coming up. And it's like a huge divide. And it just makes me sick because we were such a united front. And because of the Epstein files and something is tying Trump's hands behind his back, at least what I think, he says he doesn't really know a lot about it. I'm sure he knows more than what he says.

He knows everything about it. I guarantee you. But there's something there that is tying his hands. Yeah. I agree. And like I said, it's not about Republican or Democrat or any of that stuff. I mean, look, there's, in my opinion, just as many shitty Republican. in the party as there are Democrats, they're shitty, probably.

And I think we've seen that time and time again. There's been a lot of those same Republicans that have went out against Trump. I mean, he's called out many of those people. We've called out many of the people in the Republican Party as well. And that is the problem. But I want to go over something, too. We're talking about who may be tying his hands behind his back. We've talked about Israel briefly.

But Benny Johnson had this special just two days ago. This was right around the time Laura Trump came on. And I also found it funny, too. You remember when Sherry that, you know, they were talking about. well, we don't want to expose victims or we don't want to hurt national security. Right. Like, what does national security have anything do with Epstein unless he is an intelligent asset or agent? Yeah, maybe with the CIA or something.

Or Mossad. But this is Benny Johnson talking about there is clear evidence that Epstein operated on behalf of Israel's intelligence. Listen. Pre-Epteen should have gotten life in prison when he was first charged with solicitation of underage prostitution in 2008 here in the state of Florida. just so happened to have a very interesting conversation with the attorney general in the state of Florida. There's a lot of motion. There's a lot of things happening beyond the scenes that are really exciting about this moment. Because of this movement and because you refuse to pay taxes to child predator cults,

we are going to save this nation. It's an amazing thing. And so much happened over the weekend. And I guess I should just like start with keeping the main thing the main thing. which was this weekend in Tampa, Florida, Student Action Summit, Turning Point, USA, there was a series of speeches that just burned the freaking issue to the ground. Some of the biggest names in the entire movement, Steve Bannon, Megan Kelly, Charlie Kirk, Tucker Carlson, humbly, to a much lesser extent, myself, were all on stage demanding the release of the Epstein Clinalist.

And without a doubt, and let me just tell you from first-hand experience, this is the number one, motivating issue for the base. You don't have a political movement if you don't have a base. And if that base feels like you're betraying them or not telling them the truth, then they're not going to like that. I'm not saying I love President Trump. I'm not saying turn on Trump or anything like that. Okay?

This is without question the MAGA movement is without question the best vessel forward. And I think the MAGA movement could really be a durable 100 year movement. What I'm saying is. is that there are pressure point issues that have to be resolved here. And what happened this weekend was we were able to demonstrate what the pressure looked like. Here's a couple of good examples here, right? Here's Tucker Carlson. It's probably the speech that went the most viral.

Tucker Carlson talking about Jeffrey Epstein at Student Action Summit, ladies and gentlemen, and explaining what the real problem is here. Take it away. The fact that the U.S. government, the one that I voted for, refused to take my question seriously and instead said case closed shut up conspiracy theorist, was too much for me. And I don't think the rest of us should be satisfied with that. And by the way, let me just say really quickly, because I was so mad about it that I think I found out part of what's going on. I think we are going to find out more. and I think the truth for whatever it's worth in case you're interested is that the DOJ didn't release lots of incriminating sex videos with Epstein and his billionaire pals because they don't have them.

They don't have them because when the original search warrant was served 2007, I think, possibly 2006, I think seven, it was basically designed to protect Epstein. The search warrant was written in such a way to make sure that the feds never got their hands on the actually incriminating evidence. It's another way of saying the cover-up has been. going on since 2007, almost 20 years. And so the real question is not, was Jeffrey Epstein a weirdo who was abusing girls? Yes, we can answer that. The real question is, why was he doing this on whose behalf and where did the money come from? And those are the questions that need to be answered. And I think it's entirely fair to ask them. And it's not adequate to say anyone who asked them is somehow desecrating the memory of little girls who died in Texas are not going to

put up with that answer. I don't care who gives them. that answer. That is not acceptable. And I think the real answer is Jeffrey Epstein was working on behalf of Intel Services, probably not American. And we have every right to ask on whose behalf was he working. How does a guy go from being a math teacher at the Dalton School in the late 70s with no college degree to having multiple airplanes, a private island and the largest residential house in Manhattan? where did all the money come from? And no one has ever gotten to the bottom of that because no one has ever tried. Tucker Carlson getting at the very root and heart of the issue here, which is that you're not allowed to go commit crimes on our soil as a foreign nation, and we're just supposed

to shut up and take it. I don't care if you're our greatest ally. That just doesn't, that, And that includes so many countries. That includes Mexico, Saudi Arabia, all of these countries, China, where do you think the fentanyl comes from? Like maybe put a stop to it now and put a stop to it eternally and put a stop to it on all fronts. But yes, absolutely, there is an enormous preponderance of credible evidence that Jeffrey Epstein was working with Israeli intelligence. Let me just go off the top of the dome, okay?

Top of the dome here. Don't consider myself the world's greatest expert, but, well, we have a lot. asked a few questions about this. Jeffrey Epstein's, Madame, the procurer of the entire sex trafficking operation, Jelaine Maxwell's father, was Mossad. Got a state funeral in Israel. The Israeli prime minister at the time that was eulogizing him said that the benefits to the state of Israel that Robert Maxwell gave, the story will never fully be told. The guy literally arms trafficked, war trafficked, broke every Geneva Convention imaginable on behalf of that state. That's just a matter of historic record and fact.

That's Jeline Maxwell's dad. Jeffrey Epstein's pseudo father was Bill Barr's dad, who was a founding member of the OSS, which led to the creation of the CIA, who hired Jeffrey Epstein at the Dalton School, even though he didn't have a college degree, who wrote a book about how you can rule a planet through pedophilia, and in trapping the population through blackmail.

He wrote the book. It's called space relations. Anyway, the point is that Jeffrey Epstein is raised by the CIA guy. Jeline Maxwell is raised by this Mossad guy. They put them together. And then lo and behold, what happens next? Well, multiple Israeli prime ministers literally lived with Jeffrey Epstein. Ehud Brock's one of them, but he's not the only one.

Jeffrey Epstein, there are many emails connecting Jeffrey Epstein to his ability to open up resources and opportunities in Israel. And I guess if you're looking for something that's totally anecdotal, how about this one? On this program, on this program, I asked Jeffrey Epstein's lawyer, Alan Dershowitz. I know you all love Alan so very, you all love Dersh so much. Don't worry with check the comments. The point is that Dersh knows what he knows. I'll put that, put that one up too. man, that's a great article Klein. Thank you for grabbing that. Just so happens that Jeffrey Epstein

bragged about being a CIA agent and a foreign operative. By the way, the importance of the CIA in this story is woefully undercover. The CIA is not allowed to run ops on American soil. Now, that's not saying that they don't. Of course they do. But that would be a big, naughty, big, time naughty thing for them to do. They're a clandestine organ of our federal government. They are not supposed to do that to American citizens. So let's go with the Boy Scout answer here and ask yourself this. Who would benefit? Which Intel agency that's not allowed to operate in America would benefit from an island and international waters to do their crimes on. Yeah, you're exactly right. And, you know, that's what it kind of all goes back to. When we think about there are certain facets of

the deep state, like who is the deep state, right? And when we think about Israel as our greatest ally, why? Why is Israel such our greatest ally? We know it's not because of Christian beliefs. Because even if you're in the Middle East. It doesn't matter. It's not because they're in the Middle East. I mean, we literally bomb the Middle East all the time. I mean, that's what the United States does.

There's no country in the Middle East that has any capabilities to hurt the United States in a way shape or form. Yeah, but we're not allies with them. I understand that. But we don't need to be allies with Israel either. We have no reason in because there, it's not like Israel is right next to Russia. It's not like Israel is right next to China. Israel is literally in the Middle East.

where basically no one has almost any threat to the United States unless you're talking about 9-11, but then you can go down that route as well, which we won't go into. But what I will say is that, you know, Jeffrey Epstein and his father, which your pseudo-father, as, you know, as Benny Johnson says here, you know, was the creator of the OSS, which turned into the CIA. Then you have Ghislane Maxwell, which was her father was a Mossad agent. I mean, he literally had a funeral in Israel. And as Benny Johnson, which I didn't even know this, but, you know, there were many ex-prime ministers of Israel that stayed at Jeffrey Epstein's house or houses. You know, he's highly connected to Israel.

And what Benny Johnson was saying makes a lot of sense to me because I've always wondered, how does a math teacher become a multimillionaire and have properties all over the world? Well, it's because he was recruited. That's what happened. He was recruited. Gislein Maxwell was recruited. Because you don't get rich being a math. No, but then as Benny says here, you put these two together and you create this massive blackmail sex trafficking operation. That's what you do.

And you use it to hold power and control over the politicians, over the government. And so even just on a surface level, you know, I think the deep state goes much darker and much deeper than even child sex trafficking and Jeffrey Epstein and CIA and Mossad. I think there is a darker layer even beyond that. And when we talk about beyond that, what do we mean? what we're talking about probably the Bilderberg groups. We're talking about the World Economic Forum where they meet every year. And they're kind of similar to the United States and Israel in a way. But their job and their goal is to manipulate and control the world in all the countries.

They have a much bigger job. But then the people that are behind them, right, the people have the nucleus of the World Economic Forum and the Bilderberg groups, where all of the world elites, the most powerful and rich people in the entire. entire world. They meet every single year. They have some public meetings. They did this about COVID. They did this also with Event 201, where you had John Hopkins University, the Bill Melinda Gates Foundation. This was literally a few months before COVID happened, where they had Event 201. They simulated COVID pandemic where they basically stripped away rights around the world. They had this massive shift from, you know, in some cases, Democratic republics to more authoritarian regimes. I think that

we don't really realize how much of that control that we lost, or not even control, but freedom we lost during COVID in that era. But that was one whole big simulated event that they practiced before COVID ever came out. And then you think about, you know, how Trump and his team and all that and Dr. Berks and Anthony Fauci. They blamed all on China. Then the media said, oh my God,

Trump is a xenophob. He, he is racist. Fauci didn't. No, no, Fawchi didn't. Yeah, Trump did. And the administration did. But it was,

it led to kind of like a conspiracy where it was like China did this to the United States as a weapon of war. Yeah, but come to find out, America helped China do this. Yeah. Or maybe. America did it in its own space.

Yeah, and used China as a scapego. Yeah. Because we know, like I said, Falschi, obviously gain of function. We know Dr. Ralph Barrick from UNC. He was one of the original ones working on the coronavirus, which he was the one that was basically implanting humanized mice, the spike protein from coronavirus into mice. So the gain of function actually started in the United States.

We then sent off whatever we had learned and what, I, I guess some of our top scientists and doctors, including the NIH and Falschi, we sent off American taxpayer dollar funded gain of function to the Wuhan Institute of Virology. And then somehow, somehow this virus got released. Now, do you think it's possible that there could have been a spy in Wuhan lab that released this? Because why would we have sent it to Wuhan, number one, to China, like one of our biggest foreign adversaries? we, the United States of America, the NIH, and prominent scientists and doctors inside of the United States, worked on the gain of function before it ever even went to China. We worked on gain of function to make it more transmissible to people. We literally had the same T cells and cells in mice.

That's why they're called humanized mice. We had the same, even the mice, their lungs were pretty much almost exactly the same as humans. because of the way they genetically manipulated and mutilated these things. Not mutilated, but manipulated. But yeah, these mice had human lungs. And we figured out a way to make the coronavirus, which was at one point in time, I guess, a zoonotic bat coronavirus, allegedly. But either way, we figured out how to make a zoonotic virus more transmissible and more deadly. That was the whole point.

That was literally the whole purpose of gain and function with coronavirus. We had to figure out how to get this virus. into human cells and then make it very hard to get rid of and kill a lot of people. Well, the United States did that first. Then we sent it to Wuhan Institute of Virology. And then it wasn't very long after that. This virus escaped. It was right.

And then we blamed on China. Right. Weird. And then the United States and many other countries around the world, then locked down people. They forced vaccines on them. They rushed these vaccines. They gave these vaccine manufacturers, complete immunity with this emergency use authorization. We put kids behind walls or in their homes.

We locked them away. We told them they're not allowed to go to the store. You're not allowed to do this. We lost millions of people. And it wasn't just from the virus. We also lost millions of people to the treatment or from the treatment, which is putting everybody on ventilators. Yeah.

And we lost a lot of people to suicide as well. Suicide. We're still going to have kids that are never going to recover from what they lost during that time. And even the socialization aspect. I was listening to a podcast the other night about, I think they're called Generation Z now. Gen Z.

Yeah. And just their way of communicating and their lack of socialization skills just from being locked up during that time. They don't know how to socialize. No, they absolutely. They only know how to text. And when they give these little side eyes to people, I was watching it on Fox. It's just crazy. Like they have no respect for adults anymore.

But to me, what this reminds me of, Chad, when you were little, did you ever, like, experience having an ant farm? Yes. Yeah, I had those. And you think about the ant farm and how it works. It's just like long tray. It's a clear tree. And you can see all the little roadmaps and the ants all doing their own little jobs. Yes.

This is exactly what it reminds me of. And somehow who is correlating all these jobs? Because somebody is in charge of all these little jobs that are being put together, in my opinion, to form a one world government. Yeah. I mean, I think there's obviously a much bigger picture behind. the smaller pictures, although we think Epstein is huge, and it is. It is massive. But it's just a part of the puzzle. Yeah, it is. It's a part of the puzzle. I think it's all going towards like a one more government, a new world order. This is absolutely what is happening. I believe we've

been talking about this for years, this setup of the new world order. You know, during COVID, actually, we had many world leaders around the world that we're talking about. We're going to be the leader of the new world order. I mean, it was like it was so dystopian. It was like you were watching a scene of a movie of some futuristic doomsday like after the rapture world. And we saw that during COVID. I think we're still seeing it. And then you see someone like Trump that so many people voted for. And Trump is doubling down, tripling down in some case.

And I think he's going to continue to do this to where he's like, hey, whoever is still talking about this, screw you guys. We're moving on. We don't give a shit about you anymore. Peace out. And this is very, very, very bad messaging. All right. So I do want to play one more clip because.

PPD had this ex-CIA guy on. This guy actually went to prison for espionage. And he went to prison for espionage in part because what he did, and I do encourage you guys to go and listen to the PPD podcast, the title of it, if you just get a PPD podcast, go to live. The title is Epstein coverup, Jiselaun Maxwell and Israel's role with CIA whistleblower, John Curacao, or however you say his name. And so throughout this whole podcast, it's very important information as he leads into talking about what he believes is happening in the Trump administration and why they're covering it up.

Because this guy was over, I think he said, like special operations or some type of special program in the CIA. And one of his things was, and what he learned was like how to torture people. Like he told a story about how, you know, waterboarding and when that started and how it started. And then also like one of the most deadly ways that they would torture prisoners or people that they were wanting to interrogate was to keep them awake for 12 plus days. and oftentimes the keeping people awake sleep deprivation was actually killing more people than anything i mean he said he would be outside where they were interrogating people and they would roll someone else out

dead because they died in this process and it would be like on sometimes the ninth or tenth day and they were in these rooms and they would blast rock music at max level and they would have industrial strength lights on them and they would these these people would be chained up in handcuffs to a center post in the ceiling. And they'd be hanging from the ceiling for sometimes 12 days. And they would not allow them to sleep for 12 days. And this would eventually kill them. I couldn't imagine that because even like a half a night of not sleeping misses me up.

Yeah, absolutely. It screws me. But yeah, but this is how they torture people. And this is CIA. But this is what this guy had to say about what he believes and why he believes Trump may be covering this up. Listen. But anyway, on, on.

September 12th, all that changed. Yeah. So, so President Trump, okay, let's go through today. Yeah. The Epstein fumble that just, the biggest fumble of the administration so far. He's being interviewed by Rachel Campos Duffy. She asks in the interview, are you going to release the John F. Kennedy files? Yes.

Are you going to release the 9-11 files? Yes. Are you going to release the, you know, this is in it because somebody was sitting to a right. I don't think that's the one. It's a different interview. Are you going to release the Epstein files? And then she said, that's the one. Let me see if that's the one, Rob. No, no, that's not the one. Are you going to release this? Are you going to release that? And then that's it right there. So if you can play this. I don't know if you've seen this or not. Okay. So if you've seen this, you know which one it is once we get the video to work. And then he finally, when they

ask him about Epstein, he hesitates. Okay. And he doesn't want to release it for whatever reason. Now, we don't know what the reasoning may be. He says, well, you know, sometimes you know stories like that, get other people involved, and we don't want to do that. Great. Then now, Pam Bondi, Cash Patel, all of these guys who have talked about Epstein, there's a video of Dan Bongino who is on Tim Pool podcast and he's being asked about, and you've been on Tim Pool before and he's on the Tim Pool podcast.

You have been on there, right? Yeah. I think you have been. Yeah. And he's being asked about, you know, well, I'm in the waiting room of Fox News. And this guy's telling me that, you know, Epstein was Mossad. and that's exactly what happened. Okay.

And then now all of a sudden we get the report three days ago. No client list, no this, no that. And yesterday, when they're being asked about it, Pam Bondi says they found child porn. That's what they found and that's what they don't want to release. Is that the video, Rob, the one that President Trump is asked about Epstein? I think you just sat the video. How long is that video, by the way? This one is the shorter version.

No, you need the other one to find a bond. I have the entire one right here. Okay, play that one. Play down one, because I want her answer to also be in it. And I got so many questions with this on the CIA side. But go ahead and play this clip here. Go for it. It left some lingering mysteries.

One of the biggest ones is whether he ever worked for a American or foreign intelligence agency, the former Labor Secretary who was Miami U.S. attorney, Alex Costa. He allegedly said that he did work for a. intelligence agency. So could you resolve whether or not he did? And also, can you say why there was a minute missing from the jailhouse tape on the night and said? Yeah, sure. If I could, could I just enter for a little second? Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been talked about for years. You're asking, we have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things. And are people still talking about this guy, this creep? That is unbelievable. Do you want to

waste the time and do you feel like answer? I don't mind answering. I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on Epstein at a time like this where we're having some of the greatest success and also tragedy with what happened in Texas. It just seems like a desecration. But you go ahead. Sure, sure. First, to back up on that, in February, I did an interview on Fox, and it's been getting

a lot of attention because I said, I was asked a question about the client list. My response was, it's sitting on my desk to be reviewed, meaning the file along with the JFK, MLK files as well. That's what I meant by that. Also, to the tens of thousands of video, they turned out to be child porn downloaded by that disgusting Jeffrey Epstein. Child porn is what they were. Never going to be released. Never going to see the lighted day.

And I do want to point this out real quick. and we talked about us on the episode a week ago that we did. It is almost like so transparent how she's lying when she says this is crazy. It really is. I mean, it's like. I have to agree. I'm sure. You were a teacher for like 24 years.

And you know when a kid's lying to you. Yeah. And he thinks for a minute and he's like, these disgusting videos. No, I did not do this. Child porn videos. Yeah. No, that's not what you guys saw.

No. It's like if you ask a kid, did you do that to whatever Mr. Jacob or whatever and he's like, no, I did not do that. It was the person. He was disgusting and he spit all over me. Yeah, or something. Yeah. It was nuts.

But it's just like, it's so transparent how she is lying when she answers that question, especially the child porn thing. But anyways, I just wanted to break in and say that. To him being an agent, I have no knowledge about that. We can get back to you on that. And the minute missing from the video, we release the video showing definitively. The video was not conclusive.

And I do want to break in one more time. Since then, we actually know it's not just a minute. It's three minutes. There's at least three minutes. And there's also that entire area, which we talked about a week ago, that entire video doesn't even show his cell block whatsoever. So this is a janitor closet. It's a janitor closet. It's some of the

random room, but it has nothing to do with Epstein. There is nowhere in this video that you can see Epstein's cell block at all. And so obviously, either someone, gave this to them and they said hey this is Jeffrey Epstein's cell right here and they're like just release it don't worry people are going to believe you just release it because they are gullible yes now listen there could be some stuff behind the scenes where they do have some people in the administration that are infiltrated that are trying to make this look even worse but what trump

and his team is doing is making it look even more yeah but i do wonder about that chat is there people on his team kind of like in, sorry, 2014, when he did not pick the most appropriate people for his team. They went against him. I mean, could there be moles within his team? Oh, absolutely. And I think there is. But even still, like, you can't be this dumb.

And especially knowing that this Epstein thing has been out there forever. You are literally the sitting president of the United States. And yet your base and your people know more about this obviously than you do, even though that's not true. He knows everything about this. Well, I think he tries not to know about it. So he doesn't have to comment on it. Yeah, I know. But you have to understand that during this whole time, like we said in the first episode about this, is that during this time, Netanyahu met at the White House three times. I mean, he came three times. It was not about a piece still. This was about something much bigger. And it wasn't until after Netanyahu was meeting with Trump over the past month.

This is when Trump started to double down on. We're not talking about Epstein anymore. We don't give a shit about our base anymore. We don't care about the people that supported us. It's all either our way or the highway. But the evidence prior to it was showing he committed. You've seen this. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Okay. Body language, your job

is body language. You have to, as a sociopathic tendency, you have to be able to size up the other person's body. Absolutely. When you see this here, you see the president, you see bond, you see the way they're handling this topic. Yeah. In your mind, what are you speculating? That they're deflecting. Why? I think that this is one of those things where they just don't want people to go deeper.

Why? I don't think it has to do with, like, I don't think people are going to be implicated if the, people in the White House are going to be implicated in anything. I think it's more, I think it's more about protecting the Israelis, actually. Why? Jeffrey Epstein, in my view, is a textbook case of an access agent. I've said this before, but I think it's important, and it bears repeating, if you are a foreign intelligence service and you want information from Bill Clinton or Bill Gates or, you know, Alan Dershowitz or important people, You want the secret information from them.

You're not going to recruit them. They don't need anything from you. They don't have any financial vulnerabilities. So you do the next best thing. And you recruit somebody who has access to them. And you finance this person. He has a private island. He's got a private jet.

He flies these people down. All the bedrooms and bathrooms we learned this week were wired for video and for sound. and then you can get them, you can catch them in these compromising positions just in case you need to squeeze them a little bit. There's no evidence that any of them were squeezed, but just in case, and then you pass it back to your handlers. I had a trainer, one of my operational trainers who told us when we were going through the process that the, the best recruitment he ever made was a copy machine repair man. And I laughed when he said it. And he said, no, no, I'm serious. Hear me out. He said, all of us want to recruit the prime minister. We're not going to recruit the prime minister. We're not even going to have access to the prime minister.

But the prime minister's got a copy machine in his office. And every once in a while, that machine is going to need to be cleaned and serviced. So you recruit the copy machine repairman. And when he goes in there to make his repair or to clean the drums or whatever, he installs a little device that we give him so that every time somebody makes a copy, it transmits a copy back to the CIA. He said, I got a promotion, I got a metal, I got a photo op with the director. It made my career because every sheet of paper that went through that prime minister's office went straight to the CIA. One little chip was doing that.

That's it. So how do you do with those assets now you're getting? You know what the communication is. You know what they're thinking about. You know what their next move is. You know who their enemy is. You know who their ally is. Exactly.

Maybe it's what their position is going to be on trade negotiations. Maybe it's, you know, the prime minister's got some kind of health problem that you need to know about for planning purposes. You never know. You never know what's going to pop. Maybe it's just, you know, spam or it's a run-a-car application or stupid stuff. You just throw out in the shredder or in the burn bag. but, you know, that one nugget might come through. And I think that that's what Jeffrey Epstein was.

Now, we know all about Galane Maxwell's father, having had this long relationship with Mossad. I believe, I believe that he was a Mossad access agent. It makes perfect sense to me. So, you know, in this situation with Epstein and what's going on, who knows exactly what happened? The FBI or CIA? Well, see, that's really the $64,000 question right there. One thing that didn't surprise me at all was the conclusion that he committed suicide. I've always said he committed suicide.

And I say that only because of my own experience in the prison. You don't think someone killed him. No, I don't. You think he committed suicide. Yeah. And I'll tell you why. Please. Because the Federal Bureau of Prisons is the biggest repository of,

of semi-literate boobs anywhere in government. If you have an IQ of 65 and you want to work in government, straight to the Bureau of Prisons with you, right? Every flunky who couldn't make it through the local police academy or every loser who left the military and couldn't find a job because he lives in some rural area and there are no jobs unless you want to be a farmer and live in a double-wide, they go to the Bureau of Prisons. The guards, so many of the guards were so stupid where I was that they couldn't even read

so they couldn't do mail call because they couldn't read the envelopes. And so prisoners had to do the mail call for them. The only qualifications to be a prison guard are you have to have a GED or be working on a GED and no felony convictions. That's it. that's all and you're in so number one they're all morons number two the cameras never work never i wrote a blog i used to smuggle out this blog and my attorney would publish it and it became my second book um doing time like a spy uh but i wrote this blog about how i was working as a janitor

in the in the chapel and this is when you're doing your talk about you're doing your 23 months. When I was doing my 23 months, I was a janitor. I offered to teach a class because I, you know, did my PhD coursework in international affairs. And they told me if they wanted me to teach an eff in class, they would ask me to teach an effin class. Now pick up the sweeper, the broom and, you know, sweep the floors. So that's what I did. I said, fine for 16 cents an hour. So anyway, um, every time I'd go to the chapel in a period where there wasn't a, you know, some sort of religious service scheduled, the guys are having sex in there and I'd have to chase them out. And the reason they had sex in there all the time is because the cameras never worked.

And everybody knew where the cameras didn't work. They didn't work in the stairwell that led down to the mailroom, for example. They didn't work in the hallway that led to the laundry. And so people are constantly having sex in there. So when they say, oh my God, the cameras weren't working, it's a conspiracy. No, the cameras weren't working because they never work. And then they said, oh, the guards were asleep. Yeah, because the guards are always asleep.

Right? They're supposed to work eight hours. No more than eight hours. These guys were doing it. This is so hard to believe. It's awful. No, no, no. This is, this is naive to believe that.

For me, my opinion, you got a guy, this heavy weight of a guy that's got access to this information. Yeah. You're going to allow something like that to happen. There's a lot of guys that I've said that. But you're going to trust in your people that they realize, He's a high profile prisoner. He's a suicide risk. This makes me also,

what this makes me also think about is the following. So what did you say? You call them stupid people, right? People work there. Okay. But what did you call the other guy that was able to put a chip on the printer to get all the intel, right? If you're able to con a prime minister to get all the facts and stuff that's coming in,

how much easier is it if I'm dealing with stupid man to go and kill a guy that I want to kill? It's the easiest person to kill. I mean, cameras don't work. The prisoners are lazy. Guys, this is like easy job or a brand new elementary guy can go and take them out. Yes, but then the FBI at all are going to investigate that. And they're going to look at everybody's financial records. Has anybody made a big deposit?

Bought a boat, moved into a bigger house, you know. And there's no indication that anybody profited in any way. Not yet. We don't know yet because it's not. And even if you, you know, there's many ways. of doing it with, if a person wants to take them out, they're not going to have a hard time taking them out. But go back to this year.

So you said Israel. Yeah. So do you think, you don't think anybody from the administration is being implicated that they're on that list? I don't think so either. I'm not there. But who actually knows what happened? That's what I want to know.

You know, because in the CIA, you said something. I talked to Wolsey. Wolsey, Wolsey. Wolsey was like, I never talked to the president, Clinton. He was, you know, he's like, I was there for, two visits or two this and nothing ever happened. Literally. Like now you're seeing Gore was the one that would talk five, six days a weekend of briefing.

I want to stop for a second because, you know, one of the things I want to say, I don't necessarily agree with him on, you know, that these prisoners were so stupid and so dumb and so tired and all the cameras didn't work and none of the cameras work. And you have a guy like Jeffrey Epstein, one of the most maximum security, Southern District of New York prisons. This is not just a random prison in the middle of South Carolina or Georgia or Florida or Arkansas or Oklahoma. This is the Southern District of New York where they house the most notorious prisoners

or the most notorious people that are up on charges, including P. Diddy. I mean, some of the biggest people are here. So even if this guy says that everybody that works at the Federal Bureau of Prisons or whoever are just dumb or whatever. They don't even have their maybe a GED. Yeah, but still, you know, you would think if that's the case, which I have no idea, but if that was the case and what he's saying is true here on that, you would still think, that you would probably bring your best people, at least, to, like, the most.

Yeah, notorious people. Notorious people prison, Southern District, New York, where they literally house the worst of the worst, the people that are doing sex trafficking and drug trafficking and murder, like the big murder rings and gang members. And even when he went to prison, for example, and he had talked about this earlier on, where he met a lot of the mob bosses, the Gaudies and the, or people that were connected to family and Gambinos, which, you know, we know a couple of those people as well, at the game be knows, which is crazy. That's a crazy story. But yeah, so, but you're saying that

these, these guys are just so dumb and they just, you know, he just killed himself. It's weird that he would say that, I guess, is what I'm saying. And although I do probably agree with him on the Israel thing, one of the things he says here, which I thought it was right there, but it was probably a little bit longer in the interview, which we're not going to play the whole thing. But one of the things he says there is, is that every time that Mossad would come visit the CIA, headquarters in any fashion whatsoever. They had to check their bags. They had to scan everything they would bring in with them in any case.

And every single time that Mossad came in, they had a bugging device every single time. They were intentionally trying to plant inside of CIA meeting rooms, bathrooms, conference rooms, offices, whatever. And he said there was not one time that Mossad visited. And they visited all the time. but there was not one time that they did not catch Massad with a bugging device to where they were going to bug CIA headquarters. And this is our greatest ally. I mean, that that's what's nuts to me.

And so whether or not this is Israel or not, I mean, it seems like likely there is definitely some manipulation from a foreign government. And if it is, it's likely Israel. And, but it's not just Israel. I think, I think this is probably likely a cooperation between the CIA and. Yeah, I think it's too. I don't think it's just Israel. No, it probably isn't, but I think that both CIA and Mossad have a similar interest.

Yeah, and you guys know I'm a true crime junkie, and I watch every crime show there is. I've watched many shows even when O.J. Simpson was in jail, in and out of jail. And I've seen how they treated him, and they do treat him, or they did. Bless his soul, he's dead or whatever. And I know he probably killed his wife, but whatever. The point is they do. do treat people like that differently. It's even like Charles Manson.

I've seen those shows. They treat these prisoners that have high profile way differently than normal prisoners. Yeah, I mean, well, they put Epstein on suicide watch. I think in often cases, especially with high profile people like this, you will even put them on suicide watch to protect them. Because suicide watch is one of the most protected blocks on the entire or in the entire prison system. It is somewhere that they can monitor you. That is one place you definitely don't want to not have cameras working, but you also have more guards there. They are typically in padded cells.

In suicide watch areas, you have basically everything is taken out of that cell to make sure you cannot kill yourself. I mean, you cannot, you're not allowed to have shoe laces. You're not allowed to have certain things. Not even sheets. Yeah. Yeah, because you can hang yourself with sheets. Yeah. There are all these different things. I think they're called tear away sheets they give them. So you can't even technically wrap that up to kill yourself. It's like they make this to where you... It's impossible to kill yourself. Yeah, like, I guess you could bang your head against the padded walls as much you want, but...

Well, then they put a helmet on you. Yeah, exactly. So, and that's what I'm saying is like the fact that he killed himself, the fact that, as we talked about in the first episode where the medical examiner said, this does not look like a suicide. It looks like a strangulation or a murder. He has different breaks. It is not systematic with suicide.

This is a guy that had did over five. 500 prison, I think, suicide or murders in the past. He had done thousands, I believe, of other murders just outside of prison systems. But this guy said this is not a suicide. And then, of course, you have Cash Patel and Dan Bongino comes out and he says, this was a suicide. Cash Patel is like, I've seen many suicides and I know this is a suicide. Yeah, and you're full of shit. Yeah, how do you know this is a suicide, bro?

Like did, like, did you examine the body? And especially I know for a fact, it is full, they are full of shit when they can. came out with this 11-hour video that is bullshit. Yeah, it's complete horseshit. And so I guess to kind of wrap this up, and it's been an hour in 36, it's disappointing. It's very disappointing. And, you know, as Alex Jones says, I guess we don't need to get emotionally wrapped up in it, but also at the same time, we don't need to stop talking about it.

And we don't need to not call out this administration because it's Trump or because they're better than the last or whatever your justification is for why you're not going to speak up or speak out or criticize this administration. That is a cold if you don't criticize. I mean, you, kids criticize their parents. Parents criticize their children. And that is blood. Trump's not blood. Literally, the government is supposed to be working for us. That's not our daddy. That's not our mommy. That's not our freaking brother or sister. That is literally appointed officials that we elect to put an office to represent us on behalf of the United States of America. That is literally the reason why that government is supposed to work because we do elect

politicians to appoint or sorry to represent our, you know, our interest. And so we can't, so we can't not call out shit when we see it just because we've supported someone. Yeah, we have to call it out. But in the same stance, I still feel like something is happening where it's time. his hands where he can't be transparent for some reason. And it's either this. You drain the swamp or become the corruption. That is my bottom line.

You're either going to drain the swamp and you're going to come forward with these files. You're going to come forward with the people, how much it hurts, whoever it hurts, the elite, the politicians, the Hollywood stars. You've got to come forward or you're going to be a part of the problem. Hey, have you ever thought about this? Think about this for a second. and this is just kind of off the top of my dome you know butler pennsylvania thomas crooks yeah okay thomas crooks damn near killed trump yeah i mean very close yeah a hairline yeah very very close if trump would not have turned his head he'd been dead and unfortunately it did kill um cori comparatory

i think this is name yeah and um and um still praying for his family it sucks so bad that someone showed up and died and there were other people's other people injured but you know what's interesting is like right after that we started hearing these rumors mainstream media especially fox news started talking about how iran was likely maybe behind even thomas crooks and not just thomas crooks uh israel started running with this story saying that um you know there was this assassination plot on president trump on behalf of iran have you ever thought about that maybe i mean this is just literally just a whole conspiracy theory but what if the people behind the potential assassination of Trump could have even been Israel.

And then think about this too. Think about why Trump might be really covering up the shit. Because what if during meetings, during this process over the past two or three months and when this Epstein thing started ramping up? And then someone talked to somebody somewhere, maybe Trump himself, maybe Bondi, maybe Cash Patel, maybe all of them. Maybe they set him down and said, hey guys, do you remember about that? Pennsylvania by chance? I don't know how, I don't know how Israeli Mossade agents talk,

but just imagine, imagine someone in that accent. Hey, do you remember Butler, Pennsylvania? And do you remember the guy at your golf course? If you release these Epstein files, we're not going to miss next time. Just understand that.

And that literally could be all it is. I mean, listen, Trump understands that he almost lost his life. Yeah. And there's something that when, when you are sitting in a very powerful position, and you already realize that they, got that close before.

And there was definitely cover-ups that happened with Thomas Crooks. Now, I'm not saying it was Mossad. I'm just saying there was cover-ups. There was the, at the time, Secret Service that did not put in people that they needed to put in in the positions. I even think that they called for extra protection and they denied it. And so there was just, you know, it was like the perfect storm. It was a cluster fuck.

Yeah, it was a perfect storm. And that's exactly what they wanted. And so think about this. Who could possibly be that intelligent? Now, you could say CIA, you could go back to JFK, but you can definitely say Mossad. And so why would Mossad want to kill Trump? And I'm not saying this is the case. This is just we're theorizing here.

Why would Mossad have wanted to kill Trump before he would have become president? Well, it's because they were fearful of the release of the Epstein files because they knew that likely cash retail. I don't know if they knew Bonino, but probably they kind of knew in the realm, you know, especially hearing that X-CIA guy when he talks about. you know, Um, massad bugs, everything. I mean,

they know, they have spies in the United States. They probably, and the United States does the same thing. They do. And so does every other country. But I guarantee also Israel has people inside the White House as moles. I mean,

I'm sure there are people working. There's moles all over the country. Well, there is, but I'm saying it's also Israel. Yeah. And so what I'm telling you is that if Israel was a big part of this storyline, if,

if, if Israel was a big part of, of Epstein and the cover, or not the cover up, but the child, sex trafficking blackmail ring. I wouldn't put it past the fact that they may have had something to do with the lead up to that to then put pressure on Trump to say, look, dude, you know, just so you know,

if you release these files, you might get executed again. And they might not, you know, maybe they didn't even say it that it was them, but they may have said, oh, we have Intel. If you release this, there's a very bad faction of people that are going to do the work next time. They're going to make sure that you die. And there might even be people in your secret service that are going to do this. But anyway, so I just wanted to point that out, I mean, it's a big conspiracy theory.

I have no idea as far as the last part of that, whether or not that would be true. But it is something to think about. And I'm not saying it is true. I'm just saying that, you know, it's something to theorize. We don't know, obviously. I mean, Trump was hated by a lot of people. Thomas Crooks obviously had a lot of offshore accounts. He had money in his bank accounts, millions of dollars.

His house looked like it was professionally cleaned. It looked like a demo house. Like you would go to a new neighborhood that had a house set up. There was no freaking silverware. There was nothing. It didn't look like anyone even lived in this property. Yeah, he was definitely an intel of some sort. Well, he was an asset agent to some degree, an asset enough to get close enough to Trump to

where they wanted him to kill him. And who knows how they got him or convinced him to do this. There's no telling. You know, it's not really hard to find someone that's mentally unstable on the internet that you then connect with on behalf of an intelligence agency or some faction of government somewhere. and I just don't think that, you know, I don't think Iran would have wanted to truly kill Trump or any of this shit.

I just don't think any of that. You guys let us know what you think. I'm very curious. I'm going to be very curious going forward, you know, how Trump and his team continues to respond to this because I'm telling you, the internet is blowing up about this. And if this administration does not do something differently than they are doing now, this messaging is the worst messaging I have ever seen from almost damn near any administration.

And almost including the Biden, administration on shit. I mean, everyone knew that Biden was senile. And yes, they obviously played that shit off, even though that was so obvious that, you know, no one bought it except for people that were paid to buy it. But this is also one of those things. This is like the Biden's senile thing, but this is like, you know, the Jeffrey Epstein pedophile sex trafficking thing. And everybody knows that you're covering this shit up. Yeah. It's not a hoax. No. And to the last thing, I will say is I don't think there's shit going on behind the scenes as far as there's some big plan to down people. I just don't think that. And could there be? Yes, there possibly could be.

I just very highly doubt that is happening. Every time I hear stuff about Trump and behind the scenes and he's doing all the shit behind the scenes, I always think back to Q. And I'm not, you know, I don't want to talk shit about the Q thing. I have always said that I think Q is a government sciop that was created by the government for purposes of manipulation of, you know, obviously a mass sciop to be able to use in media, to be able to blame on January 6th, to be able to blame on a lot of stuff. Also, to be able to demonize conspiracy theories and to be able to make a certain faction of people that voted one particular way look crazy in some ways because of how far some of the

conspiracies go. And so although I'm not saying, don't listen to Q, you guys can do your own research and do your own thing. I'm just saying that every time I hear that, hey, there's some big plan behind the scenes, I often think of that. And so just be careful. Know where you're getting your information from. And, you know, at the very least, I will just say this.

We're committed to truth and transparency no matter what it is, no matter who it is. It doesn't matter if it's Trump. It doesn't matter if it's Biden. And I think that's what we need. We have to have that. We can't just have people that colonize, that worship. We have to have people to speak out no matter who is in office, no matter who you support. it one time or still do, you have to hold people accountable because they will definitely

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