Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Flock Cameras Conspiracy: Why Americans Are Cutting Down the Surveillance Network

Episode Date: July 27, 2026

Flock cameras are appearing along roads across America, quietly photographing license plates, recording vehicle details, and adding billions of vehicle sightings to a searchable surveillance network. Law enforcement says these cameras help locate stolen vehicles, identify suspects, solve crimes, and protect communities. But critics believe the rapidly expanding system is creating a nationwide mass surveillance network with far too little public oversight.Now, people across the country are cutting down, disabling, and covering Flock cameras as the backlash grows. In this episode of Investigate Earth Podcast, we examine the Flock cameras conspiracy, why these license plate readers have become so controversial, how the collected information can be searched and shared, and whether a tool designed to fight crime could eventually be used to track ordinary Americans.Are Flock Safety cameras an effective crime fighting tool, or are we watching a nationwide surveillance system being built right in front of us?Check out our merch store

just what I like, but I just don't seem to like what's new to me. Now I'm no one's man in these streets that I've been walking. They make me feel like nothing. I tell my friends. And welcome to Investigator's podcast. I'm your host Chad alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. Tonight we're talking about something this quietly appeared on roads all across America. That is flock safety cameras.

Law enforcement says they're one of the most effective tools ever created for solving crimes, locating stolen vehicles, and tracking suspects before they can disappear. But not everyone sees them that way. Across the country, some people started cutting the cameras down, raising questions about privacy, government surveillance, and whether technology designed to fight crime could one day be used for something far beyond this original purpose. Tonight, we're taking an honest look at both sides of the debate so you can decide for yourself where the line should be drawn.

Guys, welcome to the show. it is July the 26th, 2026. The name of the song is Free Man by Cata, which I figured that would be a great song because it seems like we are becoming less free every single day. And especially with the more technological advancements that are rolled out, it's like us humans have no chance. And that's what it seems like. But we're going to talk about it because as I mentioned in the intro, a lot of law enforcement is saying, look, this is one of the best tools we've ever had for catching the criminals. You know, if it's your daughter, your son that goes missing, wouldn't you love to have

a flock camera be able to say, hey, this is who took them, this is where they were. Then we saw the car, you know, 10 miles away, 100 miles away. We can track that in real time and very quick. It might actually lead to some amazing stories. But then the other side of this, which is something that we have talked about on this show for quite some time. And we've got to talk about China because China has been. a mass surveillance state for probably 10 plus years now. Obviously, China has always in some ways

been ahead of us as far as technologically, and especially with AI and especially with their camera systems. And yet, what did China do? Well, they used it for exactly what the people in the United States fear that the United States government may use it for, which is mass surveillance, social credit scores. You not be able to do anything without the government's watching eye. and you know there's some people out there that say well look I'm not a criminal I don't care what the hell cameras see me and what I'm doing or whatever the case may be and listen that is all very true but you're not a criminal right now at least what I mean by that is it just depends on what makes you a criminal in the future and that could be the fact that you voted for the wrong person it could be the fact that you know you drank the wrong thing you ate the wrong thing you hung out with the wrong person, you said something that was offensive to one group of people or whatever. And then these camera systems start tracking you, they start harassing you and literally making your life a live in hell. And for a lot of people in China, this is already the case.

You can't get away with anything in China because literally every square inch of that country is monitored and surveilled with these camera systems. And the interesting thing, Sherry, is that, you know, we obviously have talked a lot on the show. for years about politics. And we have predominantly been on the right side versus the left. And we are also three-time Trump voters. This is something that most people that have listened to us for a while understand and know. And then as I started kind of looking into the flock system and the flock cameras and even Axon,

which I don't know if any of you remember or have heard of Axon body cameras, which is what most law enforcement uses. Well, Axon also has a very similar product, and I actually think they're all kind of together, but Axon has a very similar product. And there's someone in particular in our government currently that has a lot of vested interest in some of these cameras. And that would be the president of the United States, Donald Trump. And it's just so interesting to me because, like, as I said, as us being conservatives more so over the years. And, you know, the concept of why are you a conservative?

Why did you vote for Trump? Why did you do all these things? Well, in large part because we felt like under the Democrat rule that a lot of our freedoms were going to be stripped. We were going to live in a tyrannical dictatorship country, and we had preached that for years. But then when you start finding out about some of the things that Trump is doing behind closed doors behind the scenes and what he's investing in and who he's bringing in close into his vest and who he's given all the contracts to, it makes you kind of wonder, like, well, maybe he wasn't as like constitutional republic, America. first president after all. What? Does he have stocks in this company?

Oh, he's got huge investments. He's got huge investments in some of the biggest surveillance technology in the world. And we're talking about better surveillance technology than China even has for their mass surveillance system. Well, and I have to put a number three point on your two point log that you're talking about. And I think the number three point log is it gets abused by law enforcement using it for their own good for, For example, there's been many law enforcement officers that have been arrested or lost their job because they're looking up their exes on these flock cameras. Yeah. Yeah.

And that happens all the time. And it's almost like who is surveilling who and who's getting busted more. It almost seems like law enforcement is getting busted more. Well, right now. But, you know, and that's the reality. Like it seems like every department we saw something in Anderson County in South Carolina, I believe it was. We've seen something now in Greenville County. They had to fire two of their deputy.

and apparently it sounds like that either some of these deputies are concerned about their girlfriends cheating on them. So they're looking them up in the flock cameras, which is actually a pretty awesome way to find out what she's doing, where she's at, vice versa. Well, there's been many times when my brother was in law enforcement and I wanted so bad to ask him, can you look up this license plate? Or can you look up this, but, you know, they're not allowed to do that. They would be fired immediately.

But there's so many times that I would think if I were a law enforcement and I just wanted to know this, but you probably get caught. Oh, absolutely. But guys, we're going to talk about all that tonight on the show. And the reason why we have to talk about this is number one. We've talked about it here and there. But I just don't think people quite understand how fast this is getting out of control and how many cameras there actually are and how many cameras they're planning for the future.

And then if you look at the China situation in particular, it just starts to make sense because it's so interesting, you know, just like with the COVID vaccine, which, by the way, Trump with the CDC just gave a billion more dollars to Pfizer to produce more COVID vaccines. And this is just like a week ago. And Thomas Massey highlighted this. And obviously this is something that a lot of Trump voters did not agree with Trump on. Although I was wondering, even leading up to 2024 election, I was like, well, is Trump going to, you know, finally kind of step away from the vaccine? Yeah.

And kind of disassociate himself from it. No, he didn't. He doubled down on it, actually. And instead, he actually brought like Pfizer CEOs into the Oval Office and talked about how amazing they were. But long story short, with the whole thing is, is this is becoming a problem a lot faster than we realize. And, you know, just like COVID vaccine where they said it was safe and effective, they're telling you the same thing with the flock cameras. And it's not just the flock cameras themselves or the company themselves that is the biggest problem. All flock is doing or Axon or all

of these other companies is they are providing a utility, a tool such as cameras that then process AI data, that then sends it somewhere else. And then there are massive AI data companies behind a lot of these flock cameras. And so it's not just the fact that the camera is the problem. The biggest problem is the AI data and the infrastructure behind it. So if you guys remember, and this was one of my biggest things where I started to get worried when Trump was elected in 2024, it was six months into his presidency, maybe even less than that. he had Larry Ellison, Sam Altman.

He had, oh God, what's the guy's name that backed J.D. Vance? Why am I? Peter Till. Peter Till and he had all these people, Palantir, Open AI, Oracle. And he was basically just handing out $500 billion contracts. And they were saying, no, we're going to invest so much money. Which, by the way, if you guys don't know, all these data centers that are popping up all across the country. Well, that was the first initial step to the data centers. Was Trump bringing all these people into the Oval Office?

They had the press conference. That was the start of the data centers. And what was the big jump in the start into these massive, I guess, rollout of the camera systems, the flock camera systems, AXon and all the other contracts that are coming up was also that day. So I remember it was like the, I think it was like three days after that meeting and that live televised press conference. we came on this podcast and that was what I said. I said, guys, we voted for Trump, but this is not good. And I'm just telling you, it is not good because I don't think we realize what they're

going to use this shit for and how bad that really is. Like you're literally bringing in like Larry Ellison, for example, Oracle. Oracle, number one, is basically a security, quote unquote, infrastructure that a lot of computers run on. But if you kind of dig into Oracle, it was actually really built for the CIA. And not only that, then you think about Open AI. Well, Open AI just recently got a contract not long ago, which we're going to play a clip in just a bit, is one of the biggest Defense Department contracts ever. And so they have a contract with the Department of Defense.

So why would AI be having all of these contracts? Now, we understand that Trump keeps saying, well, we got to beat China. We got to beat them with the data centers. We got to beat them with these. Technology. Yeah, with the technology. But all Trump's doing is trying to tell you, and I say Trump, Trump's just a mouth. piece, but he's not just the mouthpiece.

I mean, if you're investing so heavily in a lot of this stuff, obviously you're a part of this, but he's trying to tell you that we must beat this country or this country. And don't worry, guys, we'll never use it on you, even though obviously they're going to. Oh, yeah, absolutely. And it's so weird that right after we did the Data Center podcast a week ago, I guess, um, it's probably two weeks ago. Yeah, maybe it's two weeks ago. Aaron Brockovich and Theo Vaughn, we're talking.

about the exact data center that is in our county, which is Spartanburg County, and how they got that to go through. They lied. They lied to get it to go through because everybody in Spartanburg County was pissed off. Yeah. And there was multiple, you know, public meetings at the county court or the county, I guess, meeting. Whatever. The county council. Right.

Is what I'm trying to say. There were so many meetings that took place and all these people showed up and they thought for whatever reason that their voice was going to be heard. And their voice was heard, but they don't give a shit. Yeah. And they booed. And they boot all the councilmen when they are trying to do their little speeches and how wonderful this was going to be for us. And everybody is like, what about our power bills? What about how ugly it is?

What about the noise? And the noise and the land use. Like everything that's going on. And we don't have a say in this. You know, you can say we get to vote, but we don't get to vote. No. No. I mean, and that's what we're starting to see, guys, is like, you know, if on one hand, the people that you're voting into office,

are literally just going to do what their backers want them to do, or I guess they're bankrollers, whoever's given them the most money, that's what they're going to do. They're going to lie to you long enough to get into office. And then as soon as they get into office, they're 100% immediately going to start working for the people that paid them all the money. And in 99% of cases,

it does not benefit you whatsoever because there are politicians in every state that are heavily manipulated, and I guess paid off to operate for all of these big corporations and other countries, which have zero to do with whatever the hell they're supposed to be fighting for in their state. And Lindsey Graham was a great example of that. So I want to give you a quick figure, though. As of July 26th, the best publicly supported estimate is more than 100,000 flock cameras are currently in operation in the United States.

And so there's talk that there's probably way more than that. They are spread across more than 6,000 communities and collectively conduct billions of vehicle scans every single month. For comparison, the network was estimated at nearly 90,000 cameras in July of 2025, meaning it may have been added roughly 22,000 cameras in or around one year. So as of today, flocks network has grown substantially. And what they're wanting to do over this next fiscal year is they're wanting to put in 300 to 700,000 more cameras. And that's, you know, as you hear in the past year alone, we've had about 112,000 or so, but it's probably more than that. And what they're wanting to do in the next six months to a year, they're wanting to bring in 300 to 700,000 more cameras. Well, it seems like to me, just driving around our communities and seeing where they're located, most of them that I have seen or been aware of are around stoplights.

and, you know, like cross sections or even some highways, but it's mainly by traffic stops is what I have, just what I've seen alone. Are they, I wonder, are they going to try to put it on every stoplight on every road in every community? Well, and so what you're saying too,

Sherry, is like there are absolutely cameras at many stoplights across the country. And those are not necessarily flock cameras, but they do operate in a very similar way. is probably just another company. They're going to have AI back and inside of them and communication back and forth. And so a lot of us probably think of a flock camera to where it looks like it has a like a little solar panel, which it does. They have, they have like probably a foot by a foot solar panel.

And then the camera itself is just below that. And then it's on a large, long black pole. That's usually about eight or nine foot tall. Yeah. It's about eight or nine foot tall. And so people are going through chopping these things down. And in some cases, they're putting them up so fast that they're literally just digging a short or a shallow hole and sticking them in the ground and putting the dirt back over them. And some people don't even have to freaking cut them down anymore.

They just push them over because they're barely even being installed. They're being installed so fast. So these cameras that I'm seeing like on top of the stoplights aren't necessarily flock cameras. No, but they are different type. Yeah, but they are likely into the same networks and they operate the same way. what a lot of county councils and the cities are trying to tell people all across the country. You can actually look at news stories that are syndicated news stories that have went out about these cameras.

I know just within probably six miles of our house, we have these brand new cameras that have been installed over the past year. There's been a lot of actually construction and stuff going on all along the roads for the past year and a half with them installing these things. And what I guess the local officials are saying is, oh, no, those. are motion sensors to see like when a car comes up to the light, which is all bullshit, because it's not. Because number one, I already know that our lights in particular that we're referring to

at our neighborhood and down the road already had motion sensors. But those aren't flock cameras. They're not flock cameras, no, but they, like I said, they operate almost identical. And I know they can read license plates. And you can test to see if they have read your license plate because we tried that, but it said that ours hasn't been read. Yeah. Well, there is a websites out there that you can look up and is, have I been flocked?

And so you can go check it out yourself. Do I think that they're actually going to let you know? Because that's probably going to go away. More than likely, those websites are up because they just want you to feel safe and secure. You know, it's safe and effective. That's what it is. Now, some of these cameras, I don't know if I should refer to them as flock cameras or others, but are they now setting them up as speed traps and then people get tickets in the air?

Well, yeah, they're going to do that all the time. Yeah, that's already happening in the United States. It 100% happens, you know, in places like China, for example. The reason I'm saying this is because even when Fox News was over in China reporting, which was not that long ago, I think, whenever Trump met with whoever and they were over there, Fox News actually got a ticket because they were parked in a, they were like an inch over the line of where they were supposed to be parked. And they literally got a ticket the next day at their hotel or wherever they were staying.

it showed up and it was like a crazy ticket. And they were like an inch or two over the line. And yet Fox News, by the way, I remember over the years, and I had actually looked this up today, Fox News had done so many pieces about China and how mass surveillance was horrible. And, you know, this is why China is one of our greatest threats. And they were doing this on the guise of that Democrats were going to be the ones that were going to put us in that position. and Fox News always compared the Democrats to China.

And they would say, well, if you want this country to be like China, then the Democrats are going to do this. And they're going to mass surveillance, give us social credit scores. They're going to do all of this stuff. And yet now they, Fox News, are reporting very good on flock cameras. They're like, flock cameras are the safest thing ever. And so if you guys don't understand how the system works, I just want you to fully understand that. Yeah, I think they're reporting more on the good of it, like in your monotaurals. in the beginning where it could be useful for people that, you know, maybe have a child that was

kidnapped or somebody that's fleeing a murder or things like that. Yeah, absolutely. I want to play this clip and this is going to better explain what China goes through and how their mass surveillance works and a little bit about how it started. Listen. Imagine a world where everything you do from meeting your friends to using a public toilet is recorded. Based on your actions ranging from what you buy to where you buy to where you're

you go, you are given a score similar to the way you rate an Uber drive. If the government believes what you do is socially beneficial, the score will increase, and if not, the score will decrease. If you critique the government, buy alcohol or play games, your score decreases, and when your score is low, you won't be allowed to travel, your children would be barred from applying to high school, you would be fired from your job, and the best part you would be publicly shamed. This dystopian future is a reality of today's China. According to People's Daily, China's facial recognition system has become so advanced that it can scan the faces of 1.4 billion Chinese citizens in just a second.

After the arrival of the Internet in China in 1994, it became a very critical channel of communication for Chinese citizens. In a place where speech and access to information were heavily restricted, the Internet became a medium where people could find unscensored news, speak their minds and even organised protests. However, as time passed, the authorities found a way to block the free flow of information and used the internet for their benefit. Within a decade, they built an extensive infrastructure of surveillance

combined with cutting-edge technologies. With the help of it, they tracked those who spoke against the government, and they were subsequently arrested or intimidated. Things worsened under She's era, when a ruling was made by Supreme People's Court in September 2013. According to it, a person could face a prison for three years for posting comments that spread rumors and are deemed to be defamatory by the authorities.

Soon, the state media revealed that the government had hired more than 2 million individuals as micro blog monitors to report on online postings to official censors. In 2016, a cyber security law was passed which further facilitated state control on the internet. Companies like Alibaba, Tencent, Baidu, were required to censor prohibited content to reduce the anonymity of people on the internet. They were instructed to ask people their real name with proof during registration. During the same period, the Chinese government was also working on Project Skynet. Skynet is a mass surveillance system that was created in 2005. However, the government revealed its existence in 2013,

when it had already installed a network of 20 million cameras across the country. By 2019, this number increased from 20 million to 200 million. Authorities claim that this network allows them to track criminals within minutes and keep the public safe. But the question is, who will save the public from the government? In the name of fighting terrorism, members of predominantly Muslim ethnic groups located in the northwestern part of China, are forced to give their biometric data, like photos, fingerprints, DNA,

blood, and voice samples. Police then flagged certain behaviors, like growing a beard, leaving their house via a back door, or visiting the mosque, and those who do such things are red flagged by the system, and interrogated by police,

wrongly accused, and put in prison camps. In some cases, authorities have installed surveillance cameras inside the homes of minority communities. The algorithms used in the surveillance network have become so good that they can detect the number of people the frame, their gender, ethnicity and age in real time. Moreover, they can identify the person

by their style of walking when under 50 metres of distance from the camera. The United States and other countries also use some of the same techniques, but their use is limited to track terrorists or drug lords, but Chinese authorities want to use them to track everybody. Thanks to the high demand for surveillance cameras by the Chinese government, it has become a booming industry. Chinese government wants a better and efficient surveillance system, and companies want to secure big government contracts. To get the contracts, companies are constantly improving their tech, ultimately benefiting the government efforts of making mass surveillance more efficient. But this is not limited to the camera on the streets.

Your face is scanned in restaurants to give you meal recommendations. You can pay while shopping through face scan. And if you want to use toilet paper in public toilets, you guessed it. Your face will be scanned first, and then the toilet paper will be dispensed through a machine. Surprisingly, according to the Times, the personal data of millions of people on the government servers was unprotected by even basic security measures. and they also found that private contractors and middlemen had wide access to personal data collected by the Chinese government.

Coming back to cyber surveillance, whatever you do online is being recorded. From your financial transactions to messages, everything is intercepted by Chinese authorities. Let's take the example of WeChat. WeChat started as a messaging app, then it transformed into Chinese Facebook, and then it added a ride-hailing service similar to Uber to its platform,

and then it added banking services to its platform, and now you can use it as an ID. If you're living in China, you can file for divorce through this app. This will make your life very convenient, but at the same time, it also becomes very convenient for state security to track you.

To combat message interceptions, they talk through emojis. A half-fallen rose means someone has been arrested. A dark moon means they're going to prison camps. A sun emoji means they are alive, and a flower means they have been released. Now, combine cyber surveillance with SkyNet, you get unimaginable power and control

over 16% of the world's population. China calls it the social credit system. Whatever you do from the moment you wake up to the moment you go to bed is recorded. Based on your actions, your social credit score increases or decreases. If you praise the government publicly, donate blood, help the poor, engage in charity work, etc., your score increases. If your score is high, you'll get tax breaks, free gym, preference at hospitals, and if you do something which is considered to be wrongful by the government, the opposite happens.

Due to the social credit system, people fail to look at the bigger picture as they are constantly busy improving their scores to avail the benefits which come with it. The ratings for every Chinese citizen are publicly available, and anyone can see them, completely eradicating their privacy and ruining their social life. If you raise your voice against the government, your score would decrease, and other people wouldn't know why your score is low. They might think it's low because you did something wrong, so they'd want to stay away from you. Soon, due to the fear of lower ratings and what others would think about them,

similar to what happens on social media, citizens will refrain from any kind of independent expression, both on social media and real life, as this might lead to lower ratings, leading to a denial of basic human rights for them. The complete eradication of privacy helps the authorities to quash movements and protests against the government before they even start. According to many, China's mass surveillance is a grave new threat to freedom of expression and a violation of fundamental human rights. There you go.

And that just kind of sums up what living in China is like, and probably what living in the United States is going to be like within, I would say, the next five to 10 years and probably sooner because as you heard the, I guess, prediction as far as how many flock cameras and all that stuff is going to be in service by, I think, just the next year, potentially 700,000. But you also got to remember, there are other cameras that government can use. And they are cameras like Sherry's talking about that might be at your traffic stop or your your traffic light. They may not look apparent to where they are flock cameras,

but they are cameras that will communicate. I know. But also, this is probably what's going to happen with flock cameras. The more that people cut the cameras down, the more they're going to start adapting to put them in places that you cannot access them. You would literally have to cut down an entire damn telephone pole to be able to cut

down the actual camera system. That's why a lot of, I believe, these camera systems you're talking about have been installed over the past six months to a year in our area. Now, one of the things that they make a good point on here is that in China, if you spread rumors, you get three years at least in prison. And so say that you have a theory about why the government killed someone for no reason whatsoever.

Well, that's a rumor. Or anything that we talk about basically on this podcast, we would be in jail for like life at this point. I mean, it would be multiple. How many episodes we got like 800? Oh, boy. We would have three, 800 times or three times 800. So do the math.

Yeah, that's crazy. But if you really think about us being judged based on scores, we do have credit scores that they've been judging us on. And that's based on money. Yeah, and it's based on money. But we do have credit scores because I've been working on mine for a long time. Yeah. Well, and keep in mind. So a lot of people probably think that the social credit score system is further out in the United States than you probably realize.

I mean, the reality of social credit scores is very easy because our social media companies already do this. They rank you based on what you post, what you talk about on your phone. I don't know if you guys have ever got an ad. We've talked about this so many times, but you're just talking amongst your friends in your house or at a bar or whatever the case is. And maybe it's not even you talking about it. Somebody else can. But your friend next to you talking about something. And then literally five minutes later, you're scrolling your Facebook or you're online somewhere and that ad for whatever they're.

were talking about comes up. Now, they always say that this is because of targeted marking. And there is these little pop-ups that say, would you wish this app to track you outside of the app? Always, by the way, say no to that because. But we still say no and we still get it because you talk about those stupid electronic mountain bike things and they pop up the e-bikes or whatever, yeah, or anything, right? But what I'm saying is, is that social media already does social credit scores.

And they already have a rating system. they already have a score system they put behind every single account. There's one way you can actually identify this is that you can go to GROC. If you're on X, go to GROC, go type in to GROC. Hey, what do you think about this account, whether it's our account or your account or another account on social media? Just go ask it what it thinks about that particular account. Like I did this with ours and it says, well, they're far leaning this and they don't believe

in this and they have all this. and we rate this profile this. All of these systems on social media already have a social credit score for you. So when the government comes through and they say, hey, we have this mass surveillance system now. We need this social credit score system that you guys have been working on for years. That's very easy. They do it literally in a click of a button. They say here's all the data.

Here's the information. And so everybody right now also that's use an open AI or chat GBT for example and all these things. Yeah, that information is stored somewhere. Oh, it is. absolutely. So many people use chat GBT now over anything. And they ask it everything. Literally everything.

Oh, yeah. Medical stuff. Money things. You name it. You ask it. And all of that shit's being stored. And it's all being stored and analyzed by the government. And I know for sure because I ask a lot about our Beagle Maverick, especially when he

went through the pancreatitis and all that. But if you ask like a week later about some kind of probiotic, I should put my dog on, that it remembers. and it recalls everything you had spoke to it before about his conditions. And it will come up saying, seeing how he just got over, pancreatitis, this is what I suggest,

blah, blah, blah, is crazy. But I also feel like a lot of it has to do with algorithms of what you're looking up and researching. Yeah, everything has an algorithm.

Yes. And sometimes I almost feel like our brain waves have algorithms in some way because I told Chad this the other night. sometimes I can be thinking in my head about something and it'll pop up on my Facebook or as an ad somewhere and I've not even said it I'm thinking it well and you know what the funny thing is so Sherry after you told me that and I feel like that I've had that happen before but not a ton and part of that's probably just what it knows you're probably going to want to look at it knows you that good so when you open your app and you're thinking about something it probably can narrow down

likely what you're going to either want to look at or want to watch. That's how these four you pages are. That's how all these algorithms work. But have you ever thought about like, number one, you've had the vaccine. You've had it twice. Oh, yeah, having something in me or something. Yeah, like a communication device. The nanotechnology, by the way.

So if you go back to the COVID vaccine and the nanotechnology conspiracy theory, quote, unquote, that a lot of people believed and including Dr. Peter McCullough and others, which we've interviewed multiple times, that this nanotechnology potentially can communicate with outside sources, right? So if you got the vaccine, you have this nanotechnology or something in you in your bio. Yeah, like a chip or anything. Yeah. In your biome that can communicate with outside sources.

Imagine if that's what's actually communicating when you're opening your app and whatever you're thinking in your brain is somehow being processed into that app. I know that sounds wild and crazy, but it could be. But have you tried to like think something and see if it pops up on you? No. It does me. Like I can do it right now, I bet. And I look up my phone and there'll be an ad exactly what I'm thinking. Well, if it's a freaking beagle, then that's pretty obvious.

I mean, come on. Not that beagle. But if I thought about something else that I'm not thinking about. Yeah. I think it'll pop up. And I think that's really good of you to think about that as far as the vaccine. Because I did have two. I had the regular vaccine and the booster.

Well, the only reason I say that is because after you had told me that I looked that up. and I saw a video of a compilation of people that believed the same thing and they were all vaccinated. And so that was that was very interesting to hear that. So I don't know. That's a whole conspiracy theory on its own. We don't know if it's true. We're just saying at the very least, Sherry told me that the other day. I was like, would not surprise me.

Also, what China does is, you know, if you visit a mosque or if you have a certain religious preference or you, whatever, have a certain religious belief, it was more likely that you had cameras installed in your home because of that. And so they really targeted religion, targeted spirituality, because what the Chinese government knows is that with religion comes freedom and not just freedom, but also I guess you can say prouership to your own, well, your own human, what am I trying to say? Your own human virtue of what you believe and what you want to do and you believe that, hey, God gives you the rights, not the government. The government doesn't like that because the government wants you to believe they are the gods. They are the prison guards because in China, you're in a prison.

No matter whether you think you are or not, you are in a prison and you are controlled at all times. But obviously in China, you know, it's said in northern China, they had a lot of Muslims. So I guess believing as a Muslim is allowed there, they're just censored more. Yeah. And in China, too, keep in mind, I had read a couple of stories that even, China could access the home web cameras from anybody. So there were people that started putting little black pieces of tape on their home webcams and then their social credit score went down.

And some people actually even went to prison for putting tape over their home web cameras on their laptops. What do you do if you're being intimate with your husband or wife? It doesn't matter. China wants to know about it. They want to teach you hard. They want to know about it. And so even home webcams.

And it's funny because that video says the U.S. is limited in what they do. but that's not true. If you think about FISA, right, the FISA Act, which Trump was so hardcore just six months ago telling all the Republicans, you must pass FISA because we need it to protect Americans. Now, for those that don't remember what FISA is, it's basically the government's ability to be able to spy or at the very least warrantless searches, seizures, and spying.

And so what it basically did was the government could essentially go and say, hey, look, we're going to do this because we fill it. like it's in national interest or national security interest to do this. So we don't need a warrant. And they basically go to a FISA court, which is a bullshit court. They'll sign anything. And then they can spy on anybody. And so Trump just hardcore push that so hard to be signed.

And it was signed. It was redone. And so fice is just one of them. And it's so funny because if we really think that the U.S. is limited in what they're doing as far as with these cameras or their AI algorithms or systems, you're wrong. And I want to play this part too. When we talk about chat GBT, and we're going to get more into the flock cameras in just a moment. But we talk about chat GBT and the AI systems that you likely use on a daily and regular basis. And that

could be your kids using it, your mother, your, your, your dad, your wife, your husband, whatever, they're going to know everything. And when they know everything, you also have to think about who was in control of, say, for example, chat GBT, which is open AI, which is Sam Altman, and he was one of the guys he had in the office. And so here's a story, and we're not going to play the whole thing. We're just going to play the first part of it about ChatGBT, GBT, and the Pentagon. Welcome back, Open AI, facing some criticism over domestic surveillance concerns as the company signs a new agreement with the Pentagon to deploy its advanced AI systems in classified environments. The two sides, creating new language around those concerns, reading, quote, AI systems shall not be intentionally used for domestic.

surveillance of U.S. persons and nationals. The Department understands this limitation to prohibit deliberate tracking, surveillance, or monitoring of U.S. persons or nationals, including through the procurement or use of commercially acquired personal or identifiable information. Gentlemen now is the chief financial officer of OpenAI, Sarah Fryer. Sarah, it's great to see you again. Thanks so much for being here this morning. And of course, we've been talking so much about what went on at Anthropic, and Anthropic saying, look, we're not. not going to even work with the Pentagon. We're afraid of this surveillance. One of the companies, your company's top research executives resigned over the weekend over this Pentagon deal,

citing concerns of a surveillance of the American people. What can you tell us about this and the worry over surveillance? Sure. Thank you, Maria. Look, Sam, I thought, answered this really well last week at the Morgan Stanley conference. He started, and it's something I agree with saying, look, we live in a society that is a miracle. And the reason it's a miracle is largely, because of the democratic process. And because of that, we think really three things. Number one, national security decisions must remain with democratic governments. AI companies need to operate within democratic processes.

And we think that ultimately an elected government needs to retain this authority over just how powerful these technologies have become and are being used to protect the country. But second, it's going to require collaboration between the labs and the government. And because of that, we felt it was important that we set aside set in place strong guardrails to make responsible collaboration possible. So in particular, as you've noted, clear red lines on no autonomous weapons, no domestic surveillance. And in fact, making sure that some of our people can be deployed into the government, fully badged, but forward deployed engineers from Open AI to make sure it's happening appropriately. But most importantly, we view this as part of the democratic process. Yeah.

And you think you can do that because, I mean, look, Sarah. All right. That's all we're going to play on that piece. But it just goes to show if there is a top executive, and that was actually two at Open AI, that resigned because of this contract. And they said, look, guys. And for those that do not even know any history about Open AI, well, Open AI was created because of it was supposed. to be an open source platform, non-monetary, I guess non-monetized platform. It was never supposed to really make money.

And it was supposed to be a tool for the people. And so it was always supposed to be open source. That is all changed now. It is a huge moneymaker. It is now becoming part of the government. And it's making a shit ton of money. But also, it's going to be used against us. And that's why these top executives resigned because they're not dumb.

And maybe some of these top executives actually had good. intentions with Open AI and likely they were probably a lot of the people that were with the company when it first started when they had this vision of, hey, we understand AI now. Let's do this for the people, but it's always going to be open source. We're never going to allow it to be in the government because obviously we don't want a tool like this to be in the hands of the government at the very least to use on a mass scale for mass surveillance, which is likely why both of these executives resigned. And then of course you have Fox News coming out with this.

lady, you know, trying to do damage control because there was a lot of people that were up in arms about it. Fox News is going to do whatever they can to soften the blow of what actually is going on, which means that a open AI system that was never supposed to be monetized or ever be in the government hands is now doing both those things simultaneously. And not only are they doing that, they're being streamlined right into government technology and government systems to where they're going to use it against you, no matter what this lady's saying about. a democratic country or a democracy. If we really think that we're actually living in a democracy anymore, then people are still asleep.

Let me ask you a question. When I get on the internet now, and if I go on to any platform, just say Google, Amazon, PetSmart, even like Beagle accounts, whereas a Beagle community on Telegram, just say that. They all have their own bots now that can answer your questions and go into the database. to answer your question, do these particular companies to set up these bots or is it just, does it just come about? I don't understand. Like Amazon, for example, when you go on Amazon now, it's all AI. You can, I know, but I guess do each company establish their own AI?

Yeah. Because on Amazon, I can compare like different paints or, you know, different whatever and I can compare the prices or what I'm using them for and I'll do a breakdown for me. Yeah. So basically a lot of these companies, especially major companies, they get contracts with these huge AI algorithms or I guess you can call them models. And even you yourself, by the way, can have your own AI model. And basically you run it off of your computer. It is not stored anywhere else. It is not communicate with anything outside of your computer, also known as your server.

Right. So just imagine your computer being one server, right? And it's not biased that way, I don't think. No, all these, it's uncensored actually. And so these AI data centers that are coming up, well, just imagine like if you had the best of the best, most top line gaming computer that you can possibly buy right now, say it's like $10,000. Just imagine an AI data center having like, I don't know, 100,000 of those in one building. And that's what they're doing. They're running all of this data through all of these hardcore systems.

And they're probably systems that we came to imagine for as far as a gaming perspective. I mean, we're talking about multiple GPUs, multiple things, which is why Nvidia and all these other graphics card companies are doing so well in the stock market. And my brother's made a decent amount of money with them over the past year or two because they are providing a lot of the powerhouse behind a lot of the data centers. And so it's like, it's funny because there's a lot of people right now making a ton of money in the AI stock market. And all you got to do is just follow who's supplying what to who. And so even for the data centers, like who's supplying all the data centers. go look those people up, go look those companies up because you're going to make a lot of money on them as things keep unfolding.

But to your point, likely a lot of these companies like Amazon and whoever are using AI models that they're under contracts with companies like Open AI and others, Open AI being one the biggest, but there are tons of AI data sets. Right. And I'm sure like with Amazon, they're saying, okay, with this AI bot or whatever, they call it a bot, you want to sway the customer. to get the most expensive product. That's what I've noticed with Amazon.

Oh, absolutely. For sure. And I wanted to ask you one more question about this whole thing in general. You know, even going back to the credit score, not the credit score, the social score, you know, are they like, you're thinking of billions of people that were watching on a daily basis. So they have to have some kind of like red flag or they put in some kind of target that they're looking for. Like how does that work? How do they watch all of this at the same time all day long?

Well, it's facial recognition. I mean, you know, for example, like on my phone, which I do, unfortunately, on my camera phone, I do have facial recognition enabled to where if it sees my face, then it'll unlock the phone. And the funny thing is, is that it don't even need a lot. Like, it can tell through even sunglasses. Like, I'll have my sunglasses on. Mine does. If I put glasses on, I have to push in my code.

I wish I had sunglasses right now. But yeah, mine does. If I have sunglasses on, it'll still unlock. If I, but the thing is, if it doesn't see your eyes, it will not unlock. That's what I have found. I have covered my eyes completely, like, completely with like, you know, whatever and close my eyes and it will not unlock. So I can wear sunglasses.

I can wear sunglasses. And I guess that camera is strong enough to see through your sunglasses, to see your retina. Because what I think it does, I think it scans your retina. and you know just like the the I guess you can say the tech movies or those sci-fi movies to where when you look into something it scans your eyes and it lets you in the door whatever especially in like government facilities but I don't think people understand that like our camera phones now especially like the more advanced iPhones have this ability to scan retinas to scan all that stuff and you know if you allow that then it'll do it and so that's in the that's in the

system. It's weird. And by the way, that's going to be more, the reason I'm saying this, that's going to be more beneficial to the government than simply, you know, getting your fingerprint done or whatever the case is. Absolutely. But it's just weird to me that that doesn't work with me with glasses. You know, I have probably 50 pairs of, you know, dollar tree glasses.

Does it have to do with the size of them or the magnification? I bet it's the magnification. Because if it works with your sunglasses, but it doesn't work with my eyeglasses, it's strange. It's probably because when you set it up, you weren't wearing glasses, which it scanned your retina. But then when you put your glasses on, it magnifies your retina. So it looks different potentially into the camera. So maybe that's why it's not opening.

That is very possible. I want to play this next clip because over the past two weeks or three weeks or a month or whatever, I've been seeing a lot of law enforcement officers, you know, especially sheriffs and police chiefs all over the country because they're getting their cameras cut down. And they're having to come out on your local news talking about. how amazing these flock cameras are and why no one should be shutting them down or I guess cutting them down and and why they are actually beneficial listen this is in Knoxville by the way I believe here you go what would you say to ease people's minds about these I can speak for the Knoxville police department and I can speak for our commitment as an agency to use this technology the right way our commitment to to building again policy strong

policies that ensure that the technology is used the way it was intended to be used and that we are committed absolutely to being transparent with how we're using that technology. Just talking about LPRs is, again, circling back to this, it is one of the most impactful investigative tools that have come into police in decades. And so I want people just to really hope that people will take the time to understand how their police department is using LPRs, the policies that we have in place, and how we deal with these situations, whether it has to do with LPRs or anything else, when there might be anything that's outside of policy. And so that's what I would say when you're looking at technology, the RTIC.

We're an open book. We've got nothing to hide. And we want the community to understand what technology we're using and how we're news enough. Okay, so that was Knoxville. And by the way, when I was talking to my good buddy, Nick, the other night and Nick and Nick and Brittany, hopefully, are going to have their own podcast soon. We were talking about that. But for those that have been following our podcast for a while, Nick was actually running for sheriff in our county. And he didn't get sheriff, unfortunately. He should have because he would have been the best candidate for sure. But, you know, one of the things, Nick, Nick has been in law enforcement for quite a long time. And, you know, he, I believe was an investigator when he got out. But either way, it was like kind of what he was saying is like, well, me and Brittany, his wife, don't necessarily 100% agree on like the flock camera system and all that. Obviously, from Nick's perspective, he's in law enforcement. So he sees the benefit of it. Brittany is kind of more like us as far as the thinking thought process of how it could be used bad.

And the funny thing is, is that what a lot of law enforcement don't realize is that these potentially are being used in a way that they do not even realize, right? And so, and by the way, that guy, the police officer there that was on the local news, he talked about LPRs. Well, LPRs are licensed plate readers. And you probably don't know this, but a lot of police cars now have license plate readers in the back and the front of them. And they used to be very visible because I used to see police cars have these big things. They would have like two looking cameras on the back of them and two on the front. And they were extremely visible. I don't see police cars with that anymore.

So obviously they have put these LPRs, license plate readers, either in their windows or in the front or maybe even in somewhere in their their like trunk area or lights. I don't know. But LPRs for law enforcement, absolutely. If you are driving down the road and there's a stolen car somewhere or someone kidnapped or whatever and it sees your license plate, whether it's your back reader or your front reader, it will alert you and say stolen car or kidnapped, you know, potential. Or Amber Alert or whatever. it'll say all of this, Bolo, you know, be on the lookout. And so it'll automatically alert you to this to where obviously you're probably not going to see this.

And so that is a good beneficial use to LPRs. The problem is flock cameras are different, though. And although they could be used for that as well, and they are probably used for that in many agencies, but they, you know, for example, the owner and I guess executives of the flock camera system says, well, they don't track people whatsoever. This guy actually demonstrated this pretty clearly. Because if you go to Flock's website or see any of their videos, it says, well, we don't track people. We only track vehicles or license plates.

But this guy decided he was going to test that theory. Listen. We are getting this flock camera and submitting this Connect 36295 Bluetooth signal. It will randomly imagine. that you can see it right there we observed it 32 seconds ago I can start this back up and you'll see we'll observe it consistently this specific unit is obviously set off by human motion whether that's taking a picture of me is questionable but the IR element definitely is set off from human motion as you can

see no cars are coming there's that connects a signal it's a Bluetooth signal you can see at the top there it's coming from the back of this battery pack. I believe it's coming from that white battery module, emitting a Bluetooth signal. This looks to be a standard Falcon AR,

ALPR unit. So it's not going to be the AI video powered condo unit. The easiest way to tell is the camera. The IR unit is more towards the top of the camera as opposed to the condor where they're on the middle. You'll be able to see this triggered by the cars. All right,

so there you go. So he was just saying that he has this device that he shows, when he walks by it, it connects it and it shows that it's connecting, as engaging as he walks by, when no cars are coming, it is engaging. There's also a lot of reports of there was many children's playgrounds that have flock surveillance cameras all around them. Now, you might say, well, it's in case someone gets kidnapped.

But the problem is we don't even know fully who has access to all these camera systems. Oh, that's scary. What if pettos have access to it? Exactly. And so, you know, there's been so many things come out with these flock cameras. But another way they're using camera systems like this in Florida, which is crazy, considering the fact that you got old Ron DeSantis down there. And we thought that he was so like, you know, we should all be free and all this.

They're using them on garbage trucks. Listen to this. Very interesting things that we are exploring right now with AI. code has already looked at a software that will put cameras on trash trucks that drive up and down every single street. And that software has the ability to identify bad roofs, broken windows. We could ease, if we deploy this, we could look at saying, tell us when there's construction material at the curb.

because if someone's got an entire tub in a kitchen at their curb, it's likely they're doing a remodel that needs a permit. So we're not there yet. We've demoed it and we've looked at it. The issue then becomes, well, what if we get 3,000 of them a week? Then we don't even have a manpower issue to resolve. So we're exploring how to best deploy it, figuring out what the costs are.

but there are some very unique and innovative AI software tools that are coming out to help code with some of these issues. So they want to put camera systems on the garbage trucks because they go to all houses and they want to identify if you have a code violation. So if you're doing something that's not permitted or you have not got a permit for or, but yeah, HOA. I mean, you know, you don't do something correctly. your grass isn't mowed quite high enough. There are some neighborhoods that they measure the grass. Yeah. And if you've mowed it too low, you get a fine or you get at the very least a letter or a warning letter.

And if that shit is not mowed higher next time, you're going to get a fine. And so this city in Florida, this particular, I think it was actually a county in Florida, is wanting to put these camera systems on garbage trucks, use an AI to identify any code violations or anything they could possibly see to find you for or to screw you over. So if you're doing just a bathroom remodel and technically that's supposed to have a permit, well, they want to find you for it. They want to come and wreck your life for that shit. Now, Tucker also had a great piece on flock cameras and I want to play that right now for you guys.

We're going to get into the guts of why this is about to be very bad for all of us. But here is Tucker. 40, you probably were assigned the George Orwell novel 1984, not written in 1984, written in 1949 right after the Second World War. And it is famously a picture of the dystopian future where the state controls everything. And if you can think back, the novel, not quite as widely assigned now. Your kids are probably not reading it. If you're under 40, you may not know exactly what it is, except it's like a synonym for

the state being overbearing. Big Brother is watching you. But it's worth remembering what 1984 describes because it is so, so prescient. It does not describe a lot of physical repression by the state. In the end, there is torture and their allusions to killing. But the state in 1984 doesn't spend a lot of time putting gun barrels in people's faces. It doesn't need to. What it does instead is spy on them. They're carrying. cameras everywhere in 1984. Something called the telescreen, which when the novel came out in 1949, seemed very space age. It was a screen and it listened while you spoke.

It eavesdropped on you and it bombarded you with pre-recorded propaganda messages. And again, when this came out, it was impossible to imagine, say, the iPhone, which is listening to you at all times, or one of those seatback screens on Delta Airlines. lines that's yelling at you without your permission about some credit card deal. No one reading 1984 first came out had any reference point for this level of surveillance. There was famously a guy called Jeremy Bentham, who was a liberal reformer in the 19th century who had the greatest idea in the history of human progress called the Panopticon. And the idea was we're going to build prisons with a round design so one officer can see everybody

in the prison. All the cells will be open and one guy can see everybody. And of course, can't see everyone at once, but inmates will never know when he's looking, so they'll know at all times that they could be under surveillance, and that will compel them to obey. They'll be a lot more obedient once they suspect we're watching. That was the whole idea of the panopticon, meaning see anywhere. So apart from that kind of kooky, supposedly well-meaning, but actually totalitarian.

theory of Jeremy Bentham's, nobody had really constructed a state capable of watching or listening to everything that people did because the technology wasn't there. You just couldn't do it until 1984. And it painted, once again, a pretty accurate prediction, as it turned out, of what the future was going to look like. But what's interesting, there's a scene in there where the protagonist in the novel, without being boring about it, but a guy called Winston Smith, meets another person and has a kind of low-grade love affair with this woman called Julia. And the reason this is notable in the book is because there are very few love affairs in 1984 or in a world with this kind of surveillance because they're impossible.

One of the things you learn when you lose your privacy is that you can't have intimacy without it. Intimimacy is by definition exclusive. It is a relationship between a very small number, usually two people. You can't have an intimate DMV line or concert. Your bedroom, you hope, is intimate. And that's because not everyone's invited. So without privacy, there is no intimacy.

People can't say what they really think. People are afraid that everyone can hear what they're saying. And so they don't say it. And after while, they don't think it. So the main takeaway from the novel is you don't need to beat people or shoot them to get them to comply, you only need to spy on them and then tell them that you're spying on them. And they will know that they have to constrain their own behavior.

They will be so terrified and alone, so completely isolated, that after a while they won't be capable of having revolutionary thoughts. They will accept whatever you tell them. So stripping people of their privacy is the key to enslaving them. So in the novel, Winston Smith and Julia decide, we're going to try to have a normal conversation. and so they go to Paddington Station in London, and they take the train out to the countryside, and they stand in a pasture,

and they have a conversation. And that's the kind of extent of their intimacy. But it's thrilling within the context of this dystopian privacy-free world. They go out into the countryside, and there they can talk freely. There they can be truly themselves. There they can be honest and be intimate within other human being. Break out of the prison of solitude that the state has.

cast them in. What's interesting if you think about it is that even Orwell, who died months after finishing the book, his last book, even Orwell couldn't have imagined the world that we live in now in the United States in 2026, where even driving to the countryside, much less taking the train to the countryside, is no escape from nonstop surveillance. because cameras are everywhere. And cameras aren't simply recording you. They're listening to you and analyzing your biometrics, your gate, your face.

There is almost, if you live in a metropolitan area in the United States, no place you can go from your bedroom to the grocery store to the sidewalk in front of your house or apartment where you're not being surveilled at all times 24 hours a day. and who knows what's happening to the images and sounds those cameras are capturing that data we actually don't know and there's really no legal safeguard in place to let us know or to protect us from the misuse of that information. So there you go. There's Tucker.

And by the way, I want to bring up one thing about this that reminds me of. And it was Nancy Guthrie. We think alike. So, okay. So, okay. Did you really? So what he's talking about. And it don't even have to be a government camera, right?

That's what you have to remember. Nancy Guthrie did not have a service or a hard drive to where, you know, whatever her ring doorbell camera. And for those that do not know who Nancy Guthrie is, Savannah Guthrie's mom that disappeared from her home in Arizona. But she didn't have a hard drive to store whatever was recording on her camera. Because she was not paying the monthly fee. No. Well, it doesn't even matter. She didn't even have a hard drive because she never.

even signed up for a service like this. And so there was no storing of any video footage at all on our camera system. And yet somehow, guess what? They were able to get it. Yeah, of course they did. Oh my God. We worked really hard and trying to figure out this. No.

Well, I guess because it was over road or whatever, they could go back into it somehow. Even though it was like re-recorded on, they can go back to the original. Yeah. But either way, the point is that. You know, I think that whole everybody getting cameras, like ring doorbell cameras and Vivid and all these other companies. I think the whole thing was some type of government operation on the back end from the very beginning to get as many cameras in every home as possible to be able to surveil us without saying, hey, there's mass surveillance now. But yet this ring doorbell camera thing took off like wildfire. And it's like, I don't even hardly know anybody that doesn't.

have a ring doorbell camera or some type of camera system. And so even though you're walking down the street in your neighborhood and in a very quiet neighborhood and you think that that shit's not being recorded somewhere and given to somebody or someone can't monitor that, they can't. Well, let me just tell you, because of the ring cameras, I make sure I always pick up Maverick's poop in everybody's yard because I know I'm being recorded. Yeah. Like honestly.

And then you think about Airbnbs, for example, when you rent them, they have camera systems all over and they can record your every move while you're renting an Airbnb. Yeah. Like is that going against your privacy? For sure. I mean, I would think it would. But it is their house. You're renting from them. So a lot of these Airbnbs do have cameras in their house.

They can monitor everything in all times. They can even watch you when you're in the house. And there was. In the shower on the toilet. Yeah. I mean, there are literally cameras in some Airbnbs or some, you know, whoever rents their houses that are in bedrooms. And it's like, that's insane. And I know that Airbnb and other companies have gotten trouble for that before to where.

But it is also scary, especially if they are able to record people in the bedroom. And if they are intimate, I'm bringing it up again, if that can be used against you or they can put that somewhere on the black web. Yeah, for sure. Well, and so when all these law enforcement officers say, well, it really helps us because it is, you know, it is internal to us. It is what we do, you know, that really helps our department and all this stuff flock. And all of them say, like, the federal government doesn't have any access to these cameras. These cameras are being used by your local agencies that contract with us to put these cameras in their, in their counties or cities or, you know, across various states. but listen to the quick story in Oregon.

Check it out. Run for flock safety cameras in the city of Woodburn. In 2025, a total of 23 cameras were installed across the city to help police track down suspect vehicles. And while police say the cameras help solve dozens of crimes, community members raised concerns that the system could allow federal agencies to access its data. Flood security cameras that are present in Woodburn contribute to the terrorites.

of our community. City Council in November suspended the use of the cameras while the police department conducted a full review. That report confirmed what many people were afraid of that federal agencies had access the system showing nearly 6,100 searches on the city's camera network between January and November 2025. However, that number is just 0.18% of the more than 3 million total searches. And the police department says none of the searches conducted by federal agencies targeted Woodburn exclusively.

The city's cameras were included in system-wide searches, contrary to city policy. According to the report, a temporary flock safety trial is what allowed federal agencies to run broad safety searches across several camera networks at once, including Woodburns. That trial, however, appeared to have ended around June 24th when Woodburn police, say federal agency searches stop. While Woodburn police say the cameras were used in more than 350 investigations and led to arrest, stolen vehicle recoveries, and drug seizures, concerns over the technology ultimately brought the program to an end. All right. So how it says here that, you know, there was some testing system that was going on during this time. Well, it was when the department brought it to the federal government's attention of those particular cameras, the federal government having access.

Then I'll look this up and there have been multiple cities and states or a couple of states that are trying to outlaw these cameras. Tim Burchett's one of them. He wants to outlaw flock cameras in general because he knows the government is watching the camera systems. They are downloading anything they want. There were 6,000 searches just in that year from the federal government in this particular camera system, although they tried to make it out like, oh, this was a camera-wide system

search and it wasn't necessarily just targeting this area, but we don't know that. at the very least, the flock company, along with Axon and others, have always said, oh, the government does not have access to these cameras. So when the cities and when the counties or installing these cameras, the government can actually use these cameras, but they can. And they made that very obvious. And there have been many cities across the country that have identified the federal government utilizing their cameras for searches. And so, yes, in this particular case, it was about ICE because obviously Oregon and they hate ICE and they hate Trump and everybody. else. But when it's not ice, like when it when it's maybe you are in a neighborhood that is pro Trump and there's someone else in office that hates Trump or hates your way of thinking,

then your cameras are going to be targeted by the federal government. They're going to be able to identify every single thing you do. Don't believe this bullshit about like, oh, it's just the cities and the states. Yes, it does help law enforcement. And they're going to push that hardcore to you. They're going to come out. They're going to come out. They're going to going to get law enforcement officers to come out and say, look, this is really helping us with all of these things. And so it's good, guys. Don't worry. It's definitely good.

But it's just interesting that it can be used in a way that it's good in a way that it's bad. Because you think about like areas like of South Chicago, for example, where they have all these shootings on the street and all these kids are getting killed daily. I mean, that could be a help to identify the shooters. Yeah. Right. Yeah. But in the same sense, you know, like... But do you really think the government is putting flock cameras to identify the shooters in

Chicago? No. They don't give a shit about the shooters in the Chicago. So, like, the cameras that are out around our area, Chad, I know they can record cars going, you know, back and forth and stuff, and they can read license plates, but they can't identify the person is the difference, I think, maybe. No, I mean, they can. I mean, 100%.

If you think they can't identify the person, if they can see you through, through the car window, they can identify you. I'm sure that there are some system that these cameras have that as soon as they patch that in, whether it's your license plate, vehicle type, or face, or any of those things, they can absolutely identify who you are, where you've been, where you're going. And then if they utilize, just think about this, say that they also have access to camera systems that are at your local grocery store. So whether it's outside or inside, they can track you from the time, like Tucker was saying,

from the time you leave your bedroom to the time you get into the grocery store to the walk around the grocery store because I have cameras in there too as well. Yeah. And James. And then where is the black line? Like where do you draw the line where it's good and okay to use and it's bad and not okay to use? So it's a black line for you and not a red line, huh? Oh, well, I don't know.

Okay, the red line. You know I'm dyslexic. Shut up. Red and black. So black is the opposite of red. in your mind. Okay, I got you. Yeah, because everything is opposite.

So where is the red line? Sorry. Where's the red line? Where do you draw it where it's okay and it's not okay? Where does, where do you? Well, listen, but I think the reality is there's a lot of people already draw on the red line. They're cutting down cameras. Like, what else can you do?

And I mean, I'm not encouraging anybody to cut down cameras like this guy that I'm going to play in just a moment. And he's not even encouraging, by the way. He actually does this video pretty smart. And it's pretty funny. But James Lee, and he's a friend of ours, not like a friend, friend of ours, but he follows as we follow him. And we've kind of communicated back and forth here and there.

He has a ton of great content on X. So you should find him on X and check out his content. But listen to what he said in this video. Listen. Ock Thing is almost certainly a deep state sciop. And I got all the receipts. You know, one of the content creators for the administration, basically a binder guy, an Epstein binder guy all of a sudden is saying, the flock cameras are wrong,

and then you did a deep dive, and you found out something really interesting. I found pretty much like at least half a dozen cities that have canceled flock, but then signed up for another surveillance system, Axon. Except who has ownership in this company? Well, turns out Trump. Earlier this year, he bought $5 million. worth of stock in Axon. The minions of President Trump going out now against Flock,

and meanwhile, Americans don't realize they're just being replaced with a different surveillance system where Trump is getting some royalties on the side. Now there's reporting that this guy's come out with, Tony Ortiz, saying that he's spoken to at least two influencers that have been approached about getting paid to post negatively about Flock. So there you go. Then I looked into the investors.

So Flok is invested by Andresen Horwitz. That's Mark Endreson, part of the Silicon Valley Technocratic Elite. Founders Fund, that's Peter Thiel's group, as well as Y Combinator. That is a group that Sam Altman used to run. And if you look at AXON, Axon is a publicly traded company. So that's old school. That's banker finance money. So their top shareholders are BlackRock, Vanguard, and State Street.

Right. Why are they pushing anti-flap? Oh, is it because potentially they want to steer these city, contracts towards Axon. Is that a possibility? I have one more thing to share. This is the headline. Epstein could have made $100 million on a secret police tech investment.

Former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak helped convict a sex trafficker quietly invest a million dollars into a police tech startup in 2015. So Axon just bought last year the company that Epstein founded back in 2015 called Carbon. So now you have the tie of Epstein and the Israelis involved with this Axon company. And Trump. And Trump versus the technocratic elites. But the thing is people aren't paying attention because everything is like anti-flock, de-flock.

We need to get rid of these flock cameras. But they're quietly putting these axon cameras in replacement. And they're tied to Israel, Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump, Black Rock, Vanguard. So that's the point. That's the point. It doesn't really matter what evil group is behind it. We need to make sure that we're knocking down all surveillance cameras.

By the way, I swear to God, I did not know anything about the Israel thing in that video. No, but Chad, do you remember? I think it was around Charlie Kirk's assassination. Yeah. I'm pretty sure. And that Israeli guy came on with the security like systems, the video systems or whatever. He's saying we have the best of the best. And we are trying to get it, you know, everywhere.

Yeah. Into the government. Do you remember that? Well, yeah. He actually said, he said, we have a system. a software that's about to roll out in the government. The government's going to use this. So is law enforcement and all FBI, all of them.

And he's, and by the way, this guy was an ex-Massad dude. One of the top Mossad guys on Fox News saying we're not only going to be able to capture people after they commit crimes, we're going to, we're going to red flag things that if people start saying the wrong things or maybe they have a different mindset than we would like that might lead to them committing a crime. Right. Then our system's going to identify it. Then it's going to be flushed through.

We're going to have. So, yeah. I mean, and this is Sherry saying it. I can't remember the guy's name, but I remember clearly when he went on. I was like, holy crap. I can't remember his name either. And then listen to this shit. So you just heard all that, right?

Well, as flock safety faces obviously all this backlash, which, you know, James Lee believes potentially is a sciop to get you to go over to Axon, which sounds like might be connected to Israel. but and I don't I don't like making everything about Israel and I swear to God the like the last video and this video I had no idea I had anything to do with Israel. I mean I didn't even watch the end of that video the last one but I knew James Lee and I knew what I had heard a lot of his show but I did not hear anything about Israel. But then you have this big conference that just happened not long ago and this is what happened at this conference. It was Axon came on and started talking about their system. Listen.

I'm also excited to announce that we are working with another industry leader, ubiquia, to turn streetlights into smart ALPR and live streaming cameras. Without having to add a single pole in the ground, this partnerships accelerates deployments and turns existing infrastructure into intelligent, interconnected tools for public safety. Now, streetlights can do more than light the street. They can protect it. We call this.

Haxon LightPost. And to share more about this partnership, please welcome the CEO of Ubiquia Ian. I'm sorry, Ian Aaron. Thanks, Rick. So at Ubiqui, our mission is simple to make the world smarter, safer, and more connected. We actually do that by leveraging the existing infrastructure that's already in the ground. That's 60 million streetlights in the U.S. and actually 450 million worldwide.

And we make them intelligent. We built a reputation with more than 900 cities and utilities for turning ordinary streetlights into extraordinary tools for public safety. Our UBHub platform is easy to install, simple to relocate, and built to scale, allowing police departments to deploy and expand their video and LPR capabilities quickly. And today, we're excited to announce our collaboration with Axon LightPost, creating together a powerful streetlight-based platform for video surveillance and LPR, all integrating seamlessly with Axon FUSUSES. We believe this will be a game changer giving law enforcement

more eyes and real-time intelligence where they need it and when they need it. Here's a brief video to show you how we do it. All right. We're not going to play the video because this is just Axon and Ambiguia talking about how they're going to turn every streetlight in America into a camera. And that's what I was asking earlier if they're going to do that. So yeah, they are. And so that's Axon, keep in mind.

And what we just heard about Axon kind of makes you wonder. And so James Lee made an amazing point here. You often don't think about these little things about why there's so much outrage about flock cameras. What they're trying to do is they're trying to do is they're trying to. back-end another camera system that Trump and potentially Israel, it sounds like, has huge investment and ownership in to where it's like less demonize flock while we can bring in all this shit behind the doors.

While flock is everything in the media, we're doing all this behind the scenes. And this is going to be the real mass surveillance. Well, and let me go with a bigger picture, you know, whatever just went through Senate where we're going to collaborate with Israel on a military government aspect. Could this have anything to do with that? Well, I mean, and that's going to happen. I mean, if it passes the Senate, I know. And what is it called again?

I forgot the name of it. The NDAA is Section 218, I believe, is the section to where it essentially combines technology and intelligence and basically our military with the Israeli government and military. and intelligence. And all but I think four Republicans voted for it. And so now it's going for the Senate and who knows what will happen in the Senate. But they're just as controlled even though. I just wonder, do they have this stuff in Israel?

I don't know. I mean, I think they do in places for sure that, well, I 100% believe that. I've not looked that up. But if you think about Mossad and all of their. Think about West Bank, though, when, you know, you made me watch that documentary where they had the West Bank originally, like the main people. And then they built buildings over buildings. And then they have over top of them.

The settlers coming in. I'm sure that they have like some kind of camera, something going on. Well, no, but so what Sherry is saying is basically Israel has built entire towns and stuff over top of the over top of the Palestinians and the West Bank, whether it be Christians or Muslims. And then the people, the Israelis up top throw shit at the Palestinian. as they're walking underneath in this basically prison. Yeah, and they've got like this wire cage. Yeah, like cages.

They're not allowed to get up and they got to close their businesses down anytime the settlers come through their area. They've got to do everything. And the IDF is just walking alongside of them. Anyways, here's a quick video and this is what you absolutely should not do at all with flock cameras at whatsoever, which is probably this video alone was probably part of the sciop if you think about what James Lee said. but listen to this guy.

Leave flock cameras alone. There's no need to label all the flock cameras in your area. And don't put plastic bags over them either because all that does is cost the company, time, and money. Grow up. I know that you can use a $50 high-powered blue or green laser like this one to permanently blind flock cameras. But come on guys.

Why? Definitely do not use the camera map on deflop.org to find cameras, approach them from behind on foot with a spray paint extender and spray them. And if you do do that, at least make sure that you have your phone in your pocket so we can identify you using the Bluetooth and 5G. There is no reason to spend $20 on a hard hat and high visibility vest

and then buy a $30 saws all with diamond tip blades to cut down the entire pole. That's because the cameras and solar panels are clamped with a simple 8mm socket, so you're just doing too much. The cameras have about 12 hours of backup batteries, so they will be transmitting Bluetooth and 5G that we can use to track you. So under no circumstances should you put the camera inside of a Faraday bag while the battery runs itself out and then break them down for parts because that would prevent us from finding you and nobody wants that. If you do any of these things, it's important that you do not buy a pair of Vader facial recognition blocking glasses because then it would be impossible for us to identify you and charge you with a class four misdemeanor, which is typically just community service or a small fine. And for the love of God, do not attend your city council meetings and demand that they cancel your city's flock contract.

we need these cameras. Peter Thiel is a benevolent overlord. And we should all be grateful that he loves us enough to keep us safe. Grow up. That's so funny. I want you to play the other guy that we love. Oh, I'm going to. JP, serious.

He is so funny. And that last, the last bit he came out with. Oh, my God. That was dying. Well, and it's funny, as you just heard him,

he didn't even, well, I knew there were glasses like this, but he said, and whatever you do, don't buy the glasses that they can't facially recognize your eyes. Because there are camera, there are glasses they actually make that does not allow cameras to be able to recognize your eyes.

Now, I'm going to buy a pair of those glasses and try to get in my phone and see if it works. I guarantee it doesn't because I'm telling you, my regular sunglasses are easy for my iPhone camera to identify my retina. Yeah. Yeah. So just understand that. Last video, you got to hear this. J.P. Sears.

I love this one. He always does funny-ass videos. He did, I mean, he's done so much stuff. He's done a lot of Charlie Kirk. stuff and Erica Kirk and he's done the Iran War and he did flock cameras. And this video just set it up. It's like him as a flock employee, a worker. He has a vest on with like a hard hat.

And he's like talking to someone off camera or whatever, multiple people off camera. Listen. It has been cut down, completely sprayed over with an American flag on it. Would everyone please just quit cutting down our flock cameras? Camera that once stood here is gone. All that's left is this pole across the street. Another one taken down as well. Why is everyone so outraged about these things?

They help protect you. They just cut down another one. This destruction of property. Yeah, Kevin, I'm talking to you. Last four digits of your social, 7-829? Yeah, you. This is getting nuts. People across the country cutting down our flock cameras?

You see what the problem is, these lunatics things, that are cameras that are surveilling the masses at all times are some kind of mass surveillance network. Hey Lisa, as the kids. No, you don't know me, but I know you. I'll be seeing you. I'll be seeing you. I knows you've been shaking with that camera a little bit. You've been hiding something? You should tell me, our AI surveillance already knows the answer. Just admit it. As you can see, we're installing more of these things rapidly at all times. We need to get to the point where we have surveillance cameras surveilling our surveillance cameras. cameras so we can catch these people cutting down our surveillance cameras.

Oh, you're putting your privacy ahead of public safety? That's real mature. Loser? Was it 1905 Ocean Drive? Yeah. Yeah, I know that. People are pissed because they think our flat cameras are used for warrantless spying. Spokes are just misinformed. We're not spying. We're surveying. We're surveilling. Warrantless surveilling.

The technology itself has drawn criticism in the past from people concerned about the data they're collecting. If you're not doing anything wrong, then why are you even concerned about your data being collected? What you've got to understand. All our flat cameras are doing is reading license plates. And then alert police if that car is associated with a crime. I mean, safety.

This is for everyone's protection. Weem some license plates. Just got a $1,250 ticket in the mail for having my phone on my lap, face down, and both hands on the steering wheel. Well, what crime was she about to commit with her phone in her lap? One forced trauma to her boyfriend's head? Sounds like we saved the life. Look at this.

What flock cameras were able to do. A three-month-old baby was recovered after abduction. The baby was detected with our flock cameras. What does the community note say about that? Local community members claim police stated that flock was not necessary for this case, and it appears flock may be paying news agencies for favorable coverage. Well, I wish they never found that baby. These are flock cameras meant to read license plates and alert police if they're connected to crimes.

See, that's all they do. Read license plates. Nothing more. Have you seen these guys? They were cutting down flock cameras. Those are people. I thought you said the cameras are just to read license plates. Oh, they are.

We can also use them for anything else. These guys look like they're bipedal hominids. Let me know if you see them. Yeah, we're looking for. bipedal hominids cutting down our cameras. So just started arresting anybody that fits that description. What do you think of this? Leave flock cameras alone.

There's no need to label all the flock cameras in your area. And don't put plastic bags over them either because all that does is cost the company, time, and money. Grow up. I know that you can use a $50 high-powered blue or green laser like this one to permanently blind flock cameras. But come on, guys. Why?

Definitely do not use the camera map on Dflop.org to find cameras, approach them from behind on foot with a spray paint extender and spray them. Oh, I think that's great. Finally, an ordinary citizen looking out for flock cameras, everybody should take his advice. Protect your privacy. Yeah, but people are naive. Flot cameras, take your data at a local level, and then from there, the federal government can just easily access it. And do you know who's better at protecting your privacy than you? The federal government.

they're very powerful, but they can't protect your privacy unless they have it. We help get that done. Oh, yeah. We can see inside people's windows. Heads up on the dog coop right there. All right, so that was J.P. Sears, and he always has some freaking awesomely funny videos. You guys should follow him on YouTube and X, and wherever you, I guess, do your social media. And I also want to mention when he was doing this funny video, there was also like a really serious video.

that came out and there was actually people that went to these flock camera like associates where their buildings were and they're totally hidden. You know what I'm talking about? Yes. And they were surveilling the surveillance companies and it was so funny but it was like they called the police. They got them out there. It was really bad because they did not want them to even video around their area.

Yeah. And that's the thing. It goes back to James. Lee when when I think about James Lee and what he's saying as far as potentially the outrage against flock is a sciop to get axon to come in to be the real people that is a incredible theory and I think very likely true and especially if you see as he talked about all the people that are actually investing into that company Donald Trump and Israel and so many others that are connected including Epstein which is literally they bought Epstein's company or the company that Epstein

investing in this all starts to make a little bit more since now but guys that's going to do for us let us know what you think about flock cameras do you have them in your town or your county uh and how fast do you think this is really going to start affecting us i think it already is and i think that there's just so many people that believe it's like well i do have my iPhone yeah we do have cameras yeah we do have ring cameras everywhere and i just don't think we realize how master we already are and that could be also the reason why there's so much cancer too besides you know the obvious things that have happened over the past five years. But the amount of radiation and signals that are going off on a everyday basis from things

communicating with other things, you know, that is radiation. And that is definitely detrimental to our DNA. And even back when like you weren't supposed to live near high tension power lines or the or the huge power line systems, you know, what we are around on a regular basis is high radiation. But bigger than that, I think that we just. have to understand that we are there. We're damn near where China is, and I don't even think we get it.

But until next time, guys, this is Anise. Free me. Until next time, we love you. Peace out. Peace out. Oh, take a bite from you. So you can...