Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Gabby Petito Podcast | Body Found | True Crime Podcast

Episode Date: September 20, 2021

Gabby Petito went missing a few days ago while her and her fiance were exploring the backcountry in Wyoming. Now a body has been found in Wyoming with what the authorities are saying looks to be that of Gabby Petito. The boyfriend, Brian Laundrie was back in Florida with his parents shortly after her dissappeance. Brian Laundrie is now missing.

Time before you go. I've been feeling this way for far too alone. Welcome to Investigate Earth podcast. I am your host, Chad, alongside my wife, Sherry. Beautiful co-host. Oh, thanks. Say hello, Sherry. Hello.

How is everyone doing tonight? It is September the 19th, 2021 at approximately 9.20 p.m. Eastern Coast time. And so we wanted to do a podcast and an episode. on this particularly, unfortunately, it's not good news for what we have seen. We've been following this case for quite some time, basically since the beginning of this. And, you know, we've been doing, we've kind of been headfirst into some other cases that we've been working on, and this was something we had not got a chance to get to. And unfortunately, it does not look good for the outcome of this case, regardless. It's just, like, my heart just sinks tonight. It's just awful.

Yeah, this is about Gabby Petito. She went missing not long ago. She was reported missing by her family. And this was after she had been traveling with her boyfriend, Brian Laundrie. And but now... They left July 2nd for their travels. And just to give you a quick brief update, they were engaged and they were supposed to get married. But because of the pandemic, they decided to go on a road trip instead.

This was her van. they kind of converted her van into a road trip van. Yeah. And they're like, well, let's go, you know, see the country. Which is something we've talked about doing a lot of times. And so today, Sunday, the 20 or sorry, the 19th, her, well, human remains have been found in Wyoming. And from what they're saying, they are consistent with the description of Petito. So a full identification has not yet been completed.

And the FBI is the one to actually announce the discovery of the body. So local and federal authorities have been searching the Teton National Forest in Wyoming for any evidence of Gabby for quite some time now. And unfortunately, during this whole time, just to give you the other side of this, Brian Laundry, which is her boyfriend, he returned to their North Port Florida home earlier this month without Petito. He has been refusing to talk to authorities. Petito's family and their address. attorneys have pleaded with Brian's family, which is her boyfriend, to cooperate and help bring her home, just help with anything. So now, Brian Laundrie has not been seen since Tuesday. And so authorities

have been searching for him in a Florida nature preserve, which is 25,000 plus acres. And the reason why they're, they're searching for him is not because at the time there was no crime committed. But his parents, they filed a missing report on Brian. Yeah, they're not looking, they haven't been looking for him because he's the suspect, even though he's a person of interest. Yeah, his parents are like, he's gone. And I think, you know, I'm just going to say that's all fishyy do.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely. You know, his parents filed a missing report thing on him two days after whatever happened. And, oh, God, it's just crazy. Yeah, so an attorney for the Brian Laundry family. said in a statement that his family is remaining in the background at the juncture and have no further comment. Now, Petito, she is about 5-510 pounds with blonde hair.

Yeah, Gabby. And so there was a, there was, you know, not long before her disappearance, there was a body cam video of a law enforcement officer that pulled over. Gabby and her boyfriend Brian. And a third party had called in a domestic violence. I guess they seen them arguing or something pulled over the van. And this is the body cam. Yeah.

And so, yeah, we've watched a body cam. You know, there's one thing, you know, that's stood out to me a lot was, you know, if you watch the body cam and when the officer comes up, she's a mess, she's crying. he is overly nice Brian is like overly nice Calm Yeah well not really calm He was calm but he was overly nice He was like overly trying to

I'll say that this way kiss their ass And a lot of times just like I remember And this is before I knew a whole lot About this entire situation But just watching the interaction Between him and the officer When you come up to a vehicle And there's a girl crying hysterically

she seems completely distraught. And he's emotionless. Well, no. Well, he's just trying to kiss ass because he doesn't want, to me, it was like he didn't want her to say anything about whatever was going on. Yeah, and he didn't want to go to jail and didn't want them to go to jail. Yeah. Because a lot of times when, and I think in these groups, you know, I've been listening and reading, a lot of people have been through domestic violence. And domestic violence, unless you've been through it, you don't know.

Yeah. But when it comes to domestic violence, you're, you know, somebody calls the cops on you. You're going to try to do anything. A lot of times people lie and say it didn't happen when it did. Yeah. But the weird thing to me was, yeah, I first, it just stood out to me. This guy is trying to be overly nice, overly kiss-ass, I guess you can say, to the officer. They pulled Gabby out.

She was a wreck. You know, and it was one of those things. Everything she would say, the officer, she was deflecting. deflecting, deflecting. She was blaming everything on her. Yeah. She, I mean, she would say a couple things about him or whatever. What? You took my thought, but yeah, exactly. No, I'm just saying, go ahead. What did she say about him? Well, I was just saying that when she was talking the officer, it was all blame on herself. And to me, when somebody's blaming themselves like that, you're actually a victim. Well, not always. I mean, well, usually whoever the, yeah,

usually whoever is actually doing something is going to blame the other person. Exactly. If it was normal, like, I'm calling the cops on you. I'm going to blame you and say, you did this and did this. But she was the opposite. She's like, oh, no, it's all my fault. I'm just crazy. I can't handle myself. But a lot of times when you're in a relationship like that, people can make you feel like you're crazy when you're not. Yeah. And I feel like maybe that's where she was. I don't know. Now, there's two sides of this. And we're going to go into kind of what we think and all of that stuff. But, you know, as a police officer on that side of things, right, if you look at what he had to deal with and what his decision-making process was. Now, now, if it would have been another department, another officer, another whatever, would this have played out differently in this particular situation? Well, it could have. But, you know, but.

But keep in mind. If anyone says anyone touched somebody else, they're going to jail. Well, you're interrupting me. I was literally trying to finish what I was saying. Sorry, babe. But that's the truth. But, you know, had it been a different situation, a different officer, a different department, whatever the case may be, it may have ended up differently. But, you know, the officer was with her for an hour and a half at the least.

you know he thoroughly went through everything he possibly could to try to find anything that possibly could have been wrong or anything that he could have possibly done something to you know mitigate or interfere in whatever could have been happening there he was with her for an hour and a half at the very least so you know you say another officer could have taken it differently or whatever but look if someone is never they're not saying anything that is you know arrestable offense towards anyone else or whatever the case is,

then you can't really do anything. I mean, you're kind of left to, you have to let him go. But she admitted slapping him. She admitted slapping him. Yes. Yeah, but see, that's the thing. I mean, law enforcement, a lot of times, they don't take a woman saying,

but, you know, she could have been saying that, if you think about it, she could have been saying, she could have said that in hopes that she got arrested. Maybe. to get her away from him. And then what's crazy is when, you know, he ran over those, what are they called those little triangle things. And he said that she pulled the steering wheel, but she did not admit doing that. And what I feel like is crazy is if she was willing to admit all these things that she actually, you know, got, you know, mad at him, blah, blah, blah, blah.

I think she's pretty much telling the truth about everything, right? So why would she lie about the steering wheel? So I don't know if she like turned the steering wheel and that's how that ended up like that. But he said she did. She said she didn't. But when you're so honest about everything else, why would you lie about it? So Gabby, yeah, exactly. You're right.

Gabby was someone that during this whole process, you know, she embarked on a trip in June of this year. And they basically had planned to travel to the West Coast and visit all the states' National parks across the western United States. And she was extremely excited. If you watch the one YouTube video they put up, it was like they were the couple made in heaven for, you know, cross-country or anything. And so she had maintained, you know, regular contact with her family.

That was something that she always did. She was constantly in contact with her family. And, but that communication and her talking with her family stopped very fast. And actually her father even said that the last communication with her, he did not believe was her. Right. And that was August 30th. And usually you can tell. I mean, if you have a kid that you constantly text or whatever or whatever, and then someone texts, not them.

We've done that before, actually. If I'm texting someone for you and you're like, you're not going to sound like me. Yeah, exactly. Because you tell me to text them. But the last text is she was in Teton or whatever. ever. Yeah, Grand Teton. Did I say it right? Yeah, Teton. She said she was in Teton, but the way that the text appeared to come out, it was not the way she would say it. So they didn't believe the last text. So really the last text was, or the last time they had anything to do with her was August 29th. Yeah. So I think that's when she disappeared. And the thing is, according to the video, they were described as getting into a physical fight. I mean, based on if you watch the entire video, and in various articles they talked about. They were in a physical fight.

According to when they were pulled over, the conclusion was that, you know, it was a physical fight following the altercation about something. Well, I'm just saying that the laws are different. Was that in there? I think it was in Arizona, right? I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure it was Arizona,

but the laws are way different in Arizona than in the South. Yeah, but. Because if you get in a physical altercation with anyone, you're going to jail. Yeah, you can be arrested in the South for not even physical. It can be like anything, intimidation.

They can arrest you for a lot of stuff domestically. Yeah. But in this case, I almost wish she was arrested for supposedly slapping him or whatever. They should have separated them.

And they did separate them. They put him in a hotel. But the thing is, they desperately, both of them, did not want to see the other one charged with anything. Exactly.

They pleaded for that. And most people are like that in a relationship. Yeah. And especially a toxic one. Yeah, so, yeah, so they separated that night. And, you know, and she was, you know, watching that dash cam video, she was just distraught. I mean, it was, it was something that, you know, how, I mean, I've seen a lot of people distraught. I've seen a lot of people in a lot of crazy times being in emergency services, both fire department and the law enforcement side of the shit.

I've seen people kind of crazy, you know, and just distraught and, like, their, they're at their wits in. But yeah, seeing her in that body cam video is like she seemed very like it was almost like she was scared. Yeah, she was reaching out for help almost. But she couldn't. Yeah. Yeah. And because she thought that if I reach out for help, someone says something to him and then I have to go back with him. But man, I don't know.

But then again, she's blaming everything on herself. And she's like, it's all my fault. This is me. Blah, blah, blah. I'm just, you know, I'm a bad person. I'm terrible. I mean, that's pretty much what she's trying to portray to the cops. She put everything on her.

Now, so Officer Daniel Robbins, which was the one that filed the police support on that situation, had a statement that said after, or he put it in his police report, after evaluating the totality of the circumstances, I do not believe the situation escalated to the level of domestic assault as much as that of a mental health crisis. So that is what he actually put in his report. So, and, you know, I mean, you can't, I, with that particular situation, it depends. Like I said, you're probably right, though. Arizona versus the south, someone probably there was going to jail.

Right. If not both of them. And, you know, a lot of people want to say, like, you know, domestic violence things are too strict. And in some cases, they are. I mean, you know, some women and some men use that. Yeah. But they use that to. get back at whoever they're with and it's so easy and that and that's one thing all right i mean

that that's one side of the story they use that and it can ruin someone's life right and but then there's the other side of it that if you don't take it serious enough it can cause someone someone's life right and and then sometimes some people are so scared to even say anything like to me i felt like she was just all over the place i don't think i think she was taking the blame to take the blame off him. I don't know. I, you know, this is just the way I feel. I have been in domestic violence before. I know how you feel. I know what you do. Like, I would have done the same thing she was doing. Yeah. So, yeah, you're right. So, so Brian Laundrie returned to his home, drove the van.

Okay. Let's wait. Wait a minute. So after the encounter with the police, the police let them go. they put him into a hotel and gave them like a 24 hour break or whatever. So then he's in the hotel for a day and then I think they meet back. Yeah, and they go out and do their thing. You know, they go out camp, do whatever. And then when she went missing, he returned to Florida where his parents live. But no one knew she was missing when he returned the first time. No one knew it.

So when he got back with the van in Florida, the police processed a van. They did say there was material in there, whatever that means. And so they're going to go through that. But the reason why he supposedly returned home in the first place was some people say he returned in the van. Some people said that he flew home. But what I've read is... Well, the van was there, so obviously he didn't fly home. No, but the second time.

He went home twice. Yeah. Well, September 11th is when he, I'm just saying, September 11th is when her family could not get in touch her. Yeah, but I'm saying before that, September 1st through the 7th. He went home because his parents were getting a divorce, right? And they needed to get crap out of the house. And so they wanted him to put the stuff in the storage room, our storage facility. Some people were saying it was her stuff and she was a.

actually living with him. I don't know. This is rumor. But all I know is he went home and some people say he flew and left her in M-O-A-B, whatever that is, Moab, Moab, Moab, left her there so he could go home and get the

stuff in the storage room. But then people are saying, well, they're trying to get her stuff out for some reason. I don't know, but... Well, how did he get the van back? He didn't... No, they're saying he flew from where he was to Florida. But the van was back home. No, no, no, no. The first time he left well when was that like september 1st before it was 10 days before all this happened you're talking about to get the van no 10 days before you're not making sense okay listen 10 days before

he flew out to his parents house to help them get shit into a storage room right then he flew back to where they were he had left her there for a week or whatever four days and because you know she has oCD and she won't drive the van like she's scared to drive the van so he flies back to her and I think it's like a week or two weeks later is when he finally starts hitchhiking or whatever and then the van turns up home. Yeah, that's the other thing. Why was he even hitchhiking? And the van got home. There are people saying that he was hitchhiking. Now, whether it's true or not, I don't know. Like that story does not. It doesn't make sense. It makes sense to me. Because if you're hitchhiking, I mean, but look, that could be, that could be BS. I don't know.

No, there's people like saying there are, you know, these TikTok people like saying, I don't give a shit about the TikTok people. Yeah, that he got in their car and offered the $200 that he had and all that stuff. Yeah. But anyway, so yeah, so September 11th, he was there with the van. And so, yeah, I mean, and the crazy thing about this whole deal is the family has been absolutely non-cooperative along with him. You know, as soon as he got back, he lawyered up. He had, you know, whatever lawyers he needed he had. And, you know, the Petito family has been pleading with this family and Brian Laundrie to just give any information.

And it was actually a letter that they sent. And it says, please, if you or your family have any decency left, please tell us where Gabby is located. They said, tell us if we are even looking in the right place. All we want is for Gabby to come home. please help us make that happen. Right. And Joe, like, he was like, we don't even know what state to even search for Gabby in because they were all over the place.

They didn't know where her last place was. He wouldn't even tell them that. Yeah. So after all that, September 17th, you know, after many days of Gabby's family trying to plead with his family to tell him anything. With no response. The Brian's family, the laundry family, requested police to come to their home. and this was Friday.

Yeah, this was this past Friday. Where they said that they have not seen Brian since Tuesday. Okay? So this was since Tuesday. This is Tuesday through Friday. And they basically said we've been trying all week to talk to, and this is, sorry, this is what the police department, spokesperson said. Yeah, they're trying to talk to that family.

We've been trying to talk to them all week to this family to talk to Brian, and now they've called us here on Friday. We've gone to the home, and they're saying now they have not seen their son. So. And me, we. while there's people like basically rioting in front of their house demanding answers. Yeah. Right. I mean, there was a lot of people in front of their house.

Like, I think a lot of people went live and they showed everyone rioting because if you love somebody and they were your fiancé, ex-fiance, whatever. Yeah. You don't just plead the Fifth Amendment and say, I have nothing to say. If you truly love somebody, you're going to fight for them and try to find them or give their last, you know, known place you were with them or something. Even if you got in a fight with them and said, oh, you know, we got in a fight. I left, you know, at this place, you know, she walked out.

She was with them, whatever. Yeah. Say something. Yeah, you can't. I mean, look, everything that happened from the very beginning to now is just, it was, it's always been suspect. I mean, it's almost like how obvious can you be, right? I mean, now the police can't just go in and arrest. someone, bring someone. I've seen a lot of stuff in groups and in social media and Facebook

that say, no, you're guilty until proven innocent. No, that doesn't work like that. Look, man, we live in the United States of America and there's very little freedom left. But the one thing we do have still is innocent until proven guilty. And even though, but I say that we have that, but a lot of times we're not. I mean, the funny thing is a lot of people, especially politically, that want to say, it's just so crazy. It's the same thing with vaccine. Like, your body, your choice unless it's something that we agree with or you know oh we we need uh innocent until proven guilty unless it's something that we don't agree with that's the stuff that i can't stand and so so my point is is like look brian laundry regardless of how suspicious it may look and before the body at least

there is no crime there is no reason to arrest this guy right she was a missing person at that time so they can't arrest him or ask him to go down to the pre whatever to the room and talk to them or whatever they can't do that because it's not a crime they can ask him but they yeah but he said and he's got my lawyer he's got attorneys yeah so but i mean and the reality is is like you have to get probable cause warrants for anything i mean you you have to you have to have probable cause that he killed someone and the reality is is that now what it sounds like as as it sounds um they have they have possibly found her body. Right. And depending on what the... It's not a missing person. It's now a crime.

Yeah, depending on what, not yet, because they got to determine how she died. And because, you know, even still, like, say she got ran over by a car or eaten by... What I'm saying is, they're going to have to say, okay, well, she died from blunt force trauma or whatever the case is. Then he should be a prime suspect. He should, they should have a warrant enough, but it doesn't matter. He knew that. That's why he is now. So let's get to that part. He fled. He was,

okay, and like her. He's been missing since Tuesday, according to her family. And like her dad said, Joe said, this is perfect. Gabby is missing. What's his name? Brian. Brian is, wait, I forgot how he said that. It was really good how he said that.

I don't know idea what you're saying. Yeah. He was saying that basically, you know, before we knew any of this, that Gabby's still missing, we got to bring her home. Brian is not missing. He is lost on purpose. Yeah. Pretty much. Well, so, yeah, so leading to that, they are now searching for Brian at the Carlton Reserve, which is a natural area with more than 80 miles of high controls.

This is located in Venice, Florida. There's about 50 law enforcement officers. I think it's like five or six local. agencies and the FBI. They're all searching for them. And this was all day Saturday. And they started at 8 a.m. And look.

And they said he has an enormous amount of pressure on him to provide answers. Yeah. And there was pictures of like all these people search. I mean, there must have been like 50, 100 cars. But they were saying the problem was searching in this area is a really hard area to search. Especially they had rain and, you know, this is like a swine. Maybe it's a swampy area, I guess.

But they said it was a very hard area. Well, it's a wetland. Yeah. It's hard to swim. It's a wetland. They have, they have, they have, they're on side by sides. They're on four-wheelers. They have drones.

They have everything. Probably helicopters, obviously. They have everything searching for Brian. Now, the interesting thing is that what was the deal with his car? His car was there. And then it was back at the house. And so it sounds like, just based on the reports that someone, whether it be his family or whoever.

No, his family said they took his car back home. Oh, okay. Yeah, so his family said they took his car. So his car was there Tuesday, and they couldn't find him, and they started worrying about him, I guess. And so they went to get his yellow Mustang and take it home. It wasn't yellow, I don't think. Well, his Mustang or whatever, his car. And I'm just wondering, did he leave the car keys in the seat for them to take it back home?

Or do they have a spare? Well, listen. How do you get your kid's car home? Without the keys. Well, you have keys. But that's not even the important part. The important part is, is like, let's look at how obvious this whole thing is, right? I mean, his family didn't say that he was missing until Friday.

He was missing since Tuesday. I mean, they told them that. They know the enormous amount of pressure and national media coverage on the fact that, look, if me and you go camping in the back country and you go missing, right? And then I just disappeared to my family's house. I'm like, oh, I don't know. Let me get lawyers and peace out. Like, what is every, like, that's the most obvious thing that you can ever hear, right? Mm-hmm.

I mean, okay. I mean, at the very least, right? I mean, and it's strange because, like, you know, if it wouldn't have been for the, for the body cam footage of the law enforcement that pulled them over, if it wouldn't have been for that and then just looking at their YouTube video and pictures, you would think like, man, this couple's really happy.

Exactly. And all that stuff. And maybe, like, who knows? I mean, it would still be suspect. Yeah, I'm just saying, Chad, if we were together out in the middle of nowhere and I was scared to drive our car and all of a sudden you just leave me and take our...

This was her car, right? This was her van. So why would she be scared to drive her van? I guess she had OCD. but people said that she was driving it in the videos. I don't know. But a lot of people say that she was afraid to drive the van. So he was the only one that would drive the van.

But when he went back to Florida to move the stuff in the storage, she stayed there for a week waiting on him to come back. Yeah. She didn't move. She didn't go anywhere. The thing about it is that let's just get to like our opinions. This is opinions. We don't know for sure.

But before you do that, just want to ask you if we're out west right and we're in a van or a motor home whatever blah blah blah yeah would you ever leave me no i mean unless it was like to the store or something but not to go back would you even go camping a couple days away from me well no but but sherry we're that's us i know but i'm just saying not everyone like us sounds crazy too no but the crazy part is, is that you don't have to think about this case in any like I've saw all these posts on social

media and it's like, look guys I mean, you don't have to you don't have to think like oh my God, what are all these theories? It's not a lot of theories. Like he was with her. Point blank. She disappeared missing. He fled to Florida.

Now he's missing. It's not missing. He is running. He's on the run. Right. There is no missing. Yes, he's missing. from wherever, which I don't believe his family doesn't know exactly what he's doing, obviously. His family even said he had a backpack when he left.

Duh, yeah, he's leaving and he's going out and he's going to try to survive as long as he can. And look, whether or not he's in this wilderness area in Florida, I don't even know that's for sure. Yeah, they might have led the police to the wrong place. Well, if they do, though, that's really implementing them and some shit. Oh, yeah.

And they will be charged as well. So it would just. But we were talking about that too, that we have a daughter, you know, a little bit younger than them. Chad asked me, he's like, what would you do? What would you try to protect her? Would you turn her in? What would you do? No.

Yeah. Yeah. You got to. I mean, you got to turn her in. Yeah. I mean, look, I mean, I don't give it. I understand, like, as a parent, you want to protect your kid. But, you know, I mean, that's like way, like, too obvious, right?

I mean, that's like, especially your, your boyfriend or girlfriend or whatever. missing and you just come home like well sorry I don't know where she went yeah I don't know I know the police are everywhere I know we got pro-dutters outside but I mean like any obvious person is gonna know that like you probably you probably had like every everything to do with this but then there's like these theories like well maybe she went off and killed the other two people that were in the area at the time like there's all kinds of crazy theories yeah because there were two other women missing right and I think it was a lesbian couple it seems like like and um they went missing around the same time around the same area but that's i mean come on guys

with the theories man um that has nothing to do it i don't think he had anything to do with their the fact they're missing now well they're saying that maybe she killed him or something he was protecting her i mean these are the theories i read well now now a body's been found so that that wouldn't make any sense but but the point is too is that you know um could could could could whatever happened, because it seems like obviously something happened, right? I mean, obviously she's dead. Now, we'll have to wait and see what she died from. And by the way, we want to give our most heartfelt condolences to her family.

Like, that's got to be insane to go through that. And we can't imagine. I know her family was so bad wanting, you know, just something. To find her in there so close. But, you know, I will say this. And I'm going to say this directly to that family. of the Laundry family. You know, knowing that you,

that the family is desperately trying to have, to get some kind of answers for their daughter's disappearance. Imagine, right? I mean, I don't know, I don't know Brian Laundry's history. I don't know whether you gave a shit about him or not. But just imagine that you had a daughter.

I'm just going to give it a daughter perspective because maybe you hated your son. Who knows? You must not have hated him too much because you've protected him through this whole thing. But just imagine, though, that you had a daughter.

I'm just going to put in a daughter perspective. An innocent little daughter that is as beautiful as Gabby is, right? And you have her missing. Beautiful, blue eyes. And in this family of the boyfriend of your daughters is not saying anything. They're not cooperating in law enforcement. He's not saying anything.

Like, what would you think of that family? I'm talking to Brian Laundry's family. What would you think of that family, right? You would think they're total pieces of shit. Because guess what? They would be. You know, you have a family that is desperately looking for their daughter. They just want answers, man.

And in multiple quotes, they say they can't eat. They cannot sleep. It's literally just they're in mental anguish. Yeah, they just want to know what state to go and look for her. Yeah. The last time she was seeing or anything just to give them something to start with. But they gave them nothing. Yeah, so what I will say is, is I understand, I guess, you want to protect your son

because obviously y'all have been doing that. There's no question. And I say this, and I speak to them because, I mean, a lot of times when we talk, people listen. And a lot of times the people that literally we're talking to listen. I mean, and so the reason I'm saying this is because you guys are, are, it just shows your entire character and morals, the fact that, like, what family would not help another family? Find their missing kid? Yeah, that is just missing and no one's heard of.

Like, if that's a case, if you're in a court of law and you're in a court case, and you tell a jury, well, this family didn't do shit to help this family. But neither to me. And it sounds like, it sounds like this guy, they helped, they helped him actually escape. Yeah. Who takes their car away, you know, if he was missing, you don't, you don't remove his car and take it back home. No. That's, I mean, that's fishy too. There's something going on with this family.

There's something going on with him. And I think it's pretty obvious. And I just want to tell this family, like, you got to, you got to switch shoes. I know you protect your son or whatever. We all want to protect our children, but there's a time where you have to stand up. for what's right. That's obvious. You know, you have to.

I mean, look, and look, does his family know the details of what happened? I don't know. I mean, you know, he could have told his family some crazy outlandish shit to make them get on board for some reason with whatever. I don't know what that would possibly be. I don't know. I would never, like, do that, though. But let's think of like, okay, so what could have happened?

I mean, we don't know. We don't know. But obviously, they were already fighting. Yeah. Obviously, she was absolutely in mental distress. And in my opinion... That doesn't mean that she was mental, though. In my...

No, I'm not saying... I don't think she was mental. I'm not saying she was mental. I'm saying she was a mental distress. Yeah, but a lot of people are saying because of that video that she was mental. I don't think she was mental because of that video. No, I don't think so either.

She was upset. Yeah, I think... But look, I mean, you can tell a lot by somebody. I mean, even just watching her one video, their one video is... You can tell that she's not mental. She is outgoing. She's very open and she's very just personable.

You know, all these things that you can't really hide on camera. And we've done a lot of stuff media-wise. Media, here, audio, there's a lot of stuff we can't hide here. Like if I'm pissed at you or something, you know, it's hard to find or vice versa. You know what I mean? It's like it's so hard to hide things, especially over a longer video. because that video is a decent amount. And I'm just saying that I don't think she's mental.

She doesn't have any inclinations of being mentally unstable. I don't think so either. Now, someone can make someone mentally unstable in a certain situation. Yeah. And it seemed like to me, like I said, man, I go back to the body cam thing. If I was the officer in that situation, would I say that I could have done something differently? Maybe. Maybe I could have charged one of them or both.

But he was probably looking at it as this is a young couple. They're going across country. They're trying to have fun. Yes, they're arguing about something. They're in this small van and probably going crazy. And they both pleaded with the officer. Like, we don't, you know, this is, you know, whatever. And they separated them for 24 hours.

Yeah. I mean, there's not much more you can do. I mean, you could arrest them both. But even if he would arrest them both, they would have still been back together. I mean, it doesn't matter what the hell the situation. It could have even maybe made it worse. I mean, she could have disappeared before she did. You know what I mean?

I mean, that's the thing. We can't blame it on law enforcement. But what I do say is that that video, the body cam video, tells us everything you need to know, I believe, about what happened. Yeah. And I agree. And I believe she was, to me, she looked scared. She wanted to ensure that she blamed everything on herself.

Yep. And, but what I would be curious to know is, like, what friends, like, see what friends they had. Did they ever notice anything about anything? Yeah, and I just wonder, I know she messaged her family all the time, but did she message, like, her personal friends? Did they know anything about their relationship? And that may come out. You know, I would like to know, like, surely when he was, like, out hiking or doing whatever, there was times where she could talk to her friends and tell them. And some people, you know, they're going to tell their friends and not their parents about things that are going on.

at least for me when I was in a domestic, you know, abusive relationship, I never told my parents. I lied about it all the time. I lied about it. Oh, yeah, I got this black eye because we're in a car accident. My head hit the dashboard or whatever, you know? You just, you want to protect that person because you love them. Yeah, and this is not me, by the way. No, I said when I was younger.

So I'm just saying it, to me, the way that she was trying to. take all the blame she was trying to protect Brian. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's what it seemed like to me. So where are we at now? Body has been found. It was discovered in Teton County, which is in Wyoming.

And from what they're saying, it is very consistent with the description of Gabby. And so a full forensic identification has not been completed to confirm 100% that they found Gabby. But her family has also been involved in the discovery process. And so it sounds like, you know,

if the news is breaking of, it seems like, you know, they're saying that, hey, this is probably Gabby. Nicole and Joe already know, I'm sure,

and that's her parents. Yeah. And her, you know, step parents know too. Which is just, like, God awful.

And it just, it makes my heart really hurt for them because I watched, like, all their interviews. I watched, you know,

how they're like it was not about what happened with the police it's not about anything like this this is about bringing her home that's all they wanted is to bring her home yeah and so unfortunately they're not going to yeah and you got to think about their world is shattered tonight and it's just it kills me for not only them but it kills me for her and just I don't even know what she went through or what happened to her or you know did she Like, I don't know. Yeah, it's, it's a, I mean, it brings to light so many things about, you know, murder and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, this, this world today is depressing in a lot of ways. I mean, I can only imagine what the parents are going through, but, you know, that's why we do podcasts. Like, this is not just about, we, we've recently started doing a podcast to try to help families, you know, find answers for missing people or unsolved murders or whatever the case is. We're working on one right now that is actually that I think we're doing good on. And the Gabby thing is like we didn't get on it in time, you know,

but we did want to talk about it tonight because we want to share our thoughts. No, no, on time to be able to help any, like, because we do have a big audience. I'm saying people could hear this knowing the family or knowing whatever and it could help. I'm saying on time as in. Now a body's found. Right. And that's not, you know, that's not what they wanted. And like Joe said, there was millions of people.

Like, this is, this wasn't, not, national, sorry, national. International, really. Yeah. I mean, this is all over the world. And this was a big thing. And he said the focus is on bringing her home. And that was what he kept saying on every interview. And it just, it breaks my heart that he's not going to be bringing her home alive.

You know? But I will say, man. These families that are out there, or not families, these people that are out there on social media. You know, there's some crazy post on there, but...

Oh, no, there's people pretending to be somebody. No, but I'm saying, but I swear, man, if you want to find out information, like social media groups, like,

they have everything figured out and whatever. The only thing they're not doing, and some of them are, some are actually going to places to try to investigate. Oh, they do. It's crazy.

Yeah, people really get into investigating, There is. And there's a lot of law enforcement officers that investigate groups. They are all up in the groups. We know that. We've been in. We've been in.

We've done that. Been there. Been there, but there is a lot of amateur detectives out there that really can solve cases. Help solve cases. You know, there was in like I was in a group today or yesterday. Like they need to be searching this certain place.

Well, guess what? That's where they found her. Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy. And trust me, law enforcement looks at, of that stuff. I mean, I'm telling you. I promise you, we know. But that's about it. I mean, I think that's about all we have for this. I, what I will say is we pray, we pray for the family of Miss Petito, Gabby. We pray for them because it's going to be a tough

time, man. I mean, there's nothing you're ever going to do to get over it, but, you know, at least you know now. But the number one thing is bring who, whoever the hell it is responsible for this to justice. You need justice. And I think that sentiment is going to be nationwide. I believe that that dude, if this is the guy that did it, if it is. And by the way, let me just, let me just make sure I say this. You know, he's not convicted.

We don't know he did anything. Yes, it is hell of suspect what's going on right now, right? I mean, it looks like he's like 90% guilty. but we also don't know. We don't know. Yeah, we can't, like, say he's the one that did it. We are not saying that. But if he's not the one that did it, then he should be cooperating.

Like, if you're not someone that did it, you want to talk to long of respect, please help me. And if you really love this woman. Yeah, exactly. Who would be out there saying, doing anything possible, like, to try to help solve this. To me, and I'll finish it with this. it sounds like this guy is a okay a lot of people say he's a narcissist

well he's a self-centered prick if this dude did this right or even if he didn't even if he didn't do it he's still a self-centered because he did not go because he's more concerned about his own self than his fiancee so let's just say right let's just say for example

he didn't have anything to do with this shit but he maybe knew what happened, right? And he's not going to talk to the law enforcement. Obviously, he knows something effed up happened, right? He obviously knows that. He left and went back to Florida. I mean, this should not be like a cold, what would you call it, like an unsolved mystery case. The dude left, went back to Florida, and now has escaped with a backpack into the woods.

That's called a 100% prime suspect. Oh, yeah. I mean, and even if he didn't do it. he's still a piece of shit and he is a suspect now finally as a missing person they can't really go after him but as soon as they found her body

he is a prime suspect I guarantee and he's the last one that was with her yes now he's a suspect now they can go after him anyway I mean he he kind of did them a favor yeah I think he went missing and now they were already surging for him and they're like shit no I think they were

trying to take some kind of like tabs on them but they They couldn't really do that because he wasn't a suspect of anything because she was a missing person. Yeah. But once there's a body found and there's whatever, now they can really go after him. And the only reason they're looking for him is because their parents, his parents, you know, filed a missing person case and gave him their clothes, his clothes. Yeah, I mean, it's just nuts. The whole, the whole story is crazy.

We just pray for the family of Gabby. Yeah, I pray for all of them. And I hope they find this, dude. I mean, regardless, look, guilty or innocent, you still, I mean, if you're not willing to help someone that you supposedly loved help law enforcement with a missing person, you're a piece of shit. Period. I don't care. It don't matter if you did or not. You're a fiancé slash, I've heard of course that they were married or, you know, a fiance boyfriend, whatever.

But, like, you're a piece of shit. if you're not willing to help, you're a piece of shit and you're probably 90% involved. 95 actually. It's probably like 98. Okay? So, I mean, I don't think there needs to be any speculation of what happened. Speculation probably is.

Is that they got an argument? I don't know that he intentionally killed her. I don't think that was maybe his plan. If that was, if he killed her, right? And this is all hypothetical. This is allegedly hypothetical, blah, blah. I don't think he meant to kill her, if anything. I think he accidentally did that.

I think, uh, rage, I think happened. I think, I think it goes back to when the law enforcement pulled them over. I think whatever fight was happening then, it spewed over into those days. It could be.

And it was just a passion thing. And he killed her for whatever reason. And then he's like, shit, I killed her after the fact and then fled. He didn't know what to do. And that's what happened. But you're still a piece of shit because you did it.

And, well, I'm just thinking like during that whole integrity, interrogation. Interrogation, sorry. She was crying saying it was her fault, blah, blah, blah. And I'm assuming when the cops... Okay, so they're away from each other for 24 hours.

What happened when they came back? Like, what happens to most domestic violent couples when they come back together? They're like, loving, I'm so sorry. I didn't mean to do that. You know, let's start over, blah, blah, blah, blah, and then the next thing blows up. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it usually happens. but man I just hope

I hope his ass gets if he has something well regardless I hope he gets eaten by a fucking bear Well he might have gotten Well he's not getting eaten by a bear in Florida

but yeah gator Gator I hope it gets eaten to hell I hope his limbs Well I don't Because I want to know And I hope his limbs get eaten off

And then they find him And then he has to get Stant Trial with no legs I just want him to like Come forth and tell the truth He ain't going to tell the truth He's a pussy And that's pretty obvious

Because you leave your girlfriend slash fiance and whatever not leave her I mean regardless even if you didn't kill her you leave her you're a piece of shit

that's all I'm going to say about this I don't really think there's anything else that we got to say about it we pray for the family we hope and pray

that they can somehow find peace with this and it's going to be very hard but but I know that a little piece of something

will be brought back when you get justice especially from this POS if this is who did it and maybe we're all wrong and his family too and maybe we're all wrong

maybe we're all wrong. He handled this completely wrong. But that's like, I think that's like a four, three, three or four percent chance. Yeah. He's just handling this wrong. I don't believe that. Well, the next thing we need to do is we need to find this guy. And by the way, guys, most things in life, especially nowadays, whatever your instinct is, like, if you see something on news or TV or in real life or whatever the case is, 90% of times what you think is usually the case.

Oh, and exactly. I'm thinking about these YouTubers that I don't even know how to say their names but they these two YouTubers that were in the same area at the same time they actually drove past their van

that looked abandoned or whatever and they videoed it and they did put a YouTube video on it but they didn't realize it until like you know a couple days later they're like duh it was a brain fart but there's the van it's right here and it's

abandoned. I'd love to be to, and I just wonder if that YouTube video brought people closer to, because that was in. Yeah. It was in what? I don't know what you're saying. The darn place where they found her. Oh, Teton. Yeah. Anyways, yeah, Teton. I would love to be the one to find him in. I just, I wish we could just go to Florida. I'd find his ass somehow. Well, we get, well, they have dogs down there, but that's what, that's That's actually why they went in his house. They got some of his clothes to get sent. Yeah.

To get his scent. So, and the only thing their parents would talk about is him as a missing person. They would not speak of Gabby. Now, now, and the last thing we'll say is he, it either, he either is in this wildlife preserve backpacking, or they lied to police and he's actually somewhere else. Yeah. And they're misleading police. Yeah. And I can't say either or right now because of.

the way they've kind of like... Oh, they've hidden him from the beginning. They have misled a place from the beginning. The whole time. Yeah. And why, you know, all this stuff, why is a van in your garage? How did you get your son's car back from the, you know, it's just all like... But, you know, for them to get lawyers for their son and all this stuff and lawyer up, you know,

he had to have said some story to them. You know, he had to have said something that said, this happened, I need lawyers. I have to have it because this is exactly what happened. I can't, but you won't believe it, but this is what happened. You know, he had to have said something for them to be on board. Yeah. And he, yeah, he could. Yeah, he had to say something, you're exactly right.

Because I think if he said, she's missing. I need lawyers. Yeah, I accidentally killed her. No, he's not going to say that. No, he ain't going to say that. No. He's going to say some crazy shit, you know, to get his parents to believe it. And they're going to get lawyers.

And then, and then. And these people don't have a lot of money. No, but, you know, he was pretty smart. He got lawyers long enough for him to get the hell out of there. Yep. So they didn't have to question him or anything else. And he got out there. I mean, you know, will he be brought to justice?

I don't know. I mean, it depends. Will he kill himself? Probably not. He probably going to kill himself. I mean, he'll eventually be found. I don't think he's going to kill himself because the reason I say he's not going to kill himself because anyone that would leave their girlfriend or kill their girlfriend in that circumstance is a pussy.

And you're not going to. kill yourself. So I can guarantee he's not going to kill himself. He's going to be found desperate and afraid. And I just, you know, anyways, I'm not even going to keep going to this. I'm going to just leave this

as it is. But we do really feel for the family of Gabby. And, you know, we've been praying for her safe return this whole time. Yeah. And I hate it. Ended it this way. I just hate it. But at least

you know, they are going to have closure and they know where she is and they can bring her home. You know, there's a lot of missing people that, you know, they're never found. Yeah, a lot of them. And that does not give you closure. So, you know, I know this is not, this is not the news they wanted to hear, but at least they know where she is. Exactly. Well, guys, that'll do it for us on the Gabby Petito mystery. We pray for the family and we hope that justice.

This is brought down and brought down hard on whoever's responsible for it. But thank you for listening to Investigator the podcast. Until next time, have a great night.