Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Georgia Guidestones Conspiracy | Rosicrucians & The New World Order

Episode Date: February 17, 2025

In this episode, we dive deep into the conspiracy surrounding the Georgia Guidestones—unraveling their mysterious origins, how and why they were erected, and their potential connections to the occult and the New World Order. We also explore the possible influence of the Rosicrucian Order, examining its role in shaping the belief system behind the Guidestones, from themes of population control to the push for a one-world government. Buckle up for a thought-provoking journey into one of the most enigmatic monuments in modern history!

Just like in a dream, what true love can be. Cheers, I'm welcome to Investigator Earth Podcast. I'm your host chat alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. On tonight's episode, we're diving to one of the most mysterious and controversial monuments in modern history, the Georgia guide stones. And let me paint a picture for you. A quiet field in the middle of nowhere, Georgia, where a set of massive granite slabs once stood, carved with cryptic messages in eight different languages. some called it America's Stonehenge, others an eerie manifesto for a shadowy elite, and now it's gone, blown apart in the dead of night, but the questions surrounding it remains,

and maybe the mystery is deeper than we ever imagined. The guide stones laid out a chilling set of commandments, calling for drastic population control, global governance, and a new societal order, and for years, conspiracy theorists, researchers and skeptics alike debated their meaning. Were they a warning at prophecy or something for? more sinister, an open declaration for an elite group shaping world events from behind the scenes. And then there's the name R.C. Christian. The supposed benefactor of this monument, a pseudonym, perhaps a reference to the Rosicrucians,

an ancient secret society steeped in hidden knowledge and global influence. The timing of their construction in 1980 during the height of the Cold War tensions seemed intentional. But here's the thing. Their message feels even more relevant today. We're talking about population control, digital surveillance, whispers of global reset. Was this monument a roadmap for the future or a confession from pulling at the strings? And let's not forget the biggest twist. Their destruction.

The explosion in 2022 wasn't just an active analism. It felt like an erasure. Like someone somewhere wanted to silence the conversation before too many people started connecting the dots. Who had the power, the motivation, and the means to do that and why? And tonight we pull back the layers of deception. Look at what we know and ask the questions that they don't want you to ask. Because if the Georgia Guys stones were really just a harmless curiosity, why did they feel dangerous enough to be destroyed? Guys, welcome to the show.

It is February the 16th, 2025. I cannot believe we are in 2025, but we are. And we do have a new president. And thank God right now, we are not under a totalitarian dictatorship, at least as of right the second. We don't know because there's been a lot of stuff. he thinks Elon Musk is the president. We don't know for sure. Who is the actual president?

By the way, I also want to say the name of this song that we introed this episode with is only time will tell by OTE. Cherry, reminds me a lot of like the beach music sound, the R&B sound. And I think earlier when we listened this first, you said it kind of reminds you like Elvis. Elvis stuff. It definitely reminds me of Elvis more than beach music.

But if you think about it, the two were kind of at the same time. What do you think, Sam? And by the way, we have an amazing. guest that's been on our podcast and many times that I just love this girl. Sam, welcome to the podcast. Thanks for having me on, guys. Yeah, thanks for coming on, Sam. Do you think this is more beach music or Elvis-y? I think it's beach-y. I mean, it's definitely from that time period. I don't feel the beachy. I do see the Elvis aspect, though. I think it's just very like du-wop 60s-type sounds to it. Yeah, for sure. Well, I was telling Cherry earlier, it's like,

most people don't realize, but like beach music and orange music. B, and I don't know who started first, but I almost think like beach music was the original R&B. And so what we refer to now as like the Carolina Beach music is a lot of where the R&B genre came from. So that's kind of interesting, has nothing to do with this show whatsoever. And what I will say is before we get in this show, guys, we do not live very far from the Georgia Guidestones or from where they used to be.

And so I have always known about the Georgia Guys Stons for a very long time. It was kind of like a tourist attraction. And they even had camera set up at this place because they had so much vandalism that happened. Because so many people, when this monument was erected in 1980, they had so many issues. From the very beginning in 1980, people did not like this. And in particular, it was because of the commandments that was inscribed on the monument. And there was commandments that was inscribed not just in English, but they were, was inscribed in multiple different languages. I think it was known as the seven most relevant

and known languages in the world, which we'll get to in just a little bit. But Sam, we've talked about on this podcast so many times about the New World Order and the Global Reset and the Agenda 2030, especially leading into the 2024 election where you were faced with a choice. You had Kamala Harris and you had Donald Trump. But the there's so many people that said, hey, if we, if we have this person, then I think they're going to go more with the global reset, the global governance. If we go back to what President Joe Biden himself said in multiple different appearances, especially during COVID, where he said that we want to lead the New World Order. And then not only did Joe Biden say this, but, you know, the President of Australia and multiple other world leaders continue to talk about the New World Order. and I think what we're starting to kind of see as we are starting to kind of approach

that Georgia Guys don't think we're not experts in this right but it sounds like there may be a connection yeah I do think it's possible and interestingly I was just watching a podcast earlier today with Duncan Trussell and Kurt Metzker and both of those are comedians but to me comedians are having some of the most interesting conversations these days and Kurt Messker knows a lot he's went down a lot of historical rabbit holes about things like this and the one point that he makes often is that what is happening now is not new. He's like, this is the same playbook that has been used forever. And it feels new to us because it's our first go around. But if you look back historically, this has been the same challenge of humanity over

and over again. And I think this could just be indicative of that is that there's always like this running program in the background of a global world order. And it seems like there's always a group of people who are perpetuating this. And then there's another. group of people always seem to be trying to dismantle it and fight against it. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, and isn't it interesting, even back in like biblical days, Sam, you know, regardless of whether you're a Christian or not or whatever, in most biblical texts, even ancient history text, it talks about a new world order or a one world government

in Christian religion, what the Bible describes, especially in revelations, to where a one world government takes over the world. and if you do not have the what I guess in the Christian Bible says the mark of the beast, you are not allowed or able to buy goods. So whether if you do not take the market of the beast, you cannot buy goods, you cannot buy food, water, supplies, you don't have nowhere to live. You're basically hiding out. And I think that entire storyline in the Bible talks about the setup of a global governance system

to where if you do not comply with their world governance and their world system, whether it be a social credit score or, you know, even a lot of people compared like vaccine passports that were trying to be introduced during COVID-19. A lot of people correlated that with the biblical teachings of a one-world government. And I think that's why when in 1980, this monument was erected to Georgia Guidestones, there was a lot of people that hated this. And that's literally why Elberton, or Elbert County, Georgia had to erect cameras to try to protect this. what would now be known as $700,000 monument. I don't know what it would have cost in 1980, but yeah,

this was something that the county themselves, the sheriff's department had to protect because there were so many people against it because most people, I think, biblically think that this new world order, this one world government is going to come. And it seems like with all of the evidence that we see around us, that this has been a massive push for years now,

and it's just gotten closer and closer and closer as years go on. Yeah, and actually, another thing that they were talking about earlier today is the idea of a profit. And Kurt's point was that, like, most people think a profit is someone who can see the future. But he believes that a profit is actually just someone who is really paying attention to what's going on now and can recognize the patterns of what is going to come because of that. And I think that's sort of what, you know, we do and probably most of the people that listen to this podcast do is that like we're watching closely what's going on around. us and if it is true that history repeats itself, which it seems to be, it would make sense why sometimes things feel prophetic. I mean, look at Alex Jones, for instance. I don't think he's a prophet necessarily, but he knew so much and recognized so much of what was going on that he

kind of like predicted 9-11. So I don't think we're crazy to think that a new world order is coming. And I think probably even in biblical times, you know, maybe it translated to them a bit differently as to what like a one world government would mean. But probably they also saw the writing on the wall at that point. Yeah. And I think if you're around this game long enough, right? And you understand and recognize what's actually going on around you in the world and who may be the perpetrators of what's going on around you.

You know, if you look back in history and then especially when you start covering stuff like this, you know, so say that 10 years from now that we are still in the same game and we're still talking about the same stuff we're talking about now. but we're going to be much better at predicting things, you know, two, three, four, five, ten years from now because guess what, they're going to try the same things. And although they may be more successful in the future, depending on how politics kind of come about and all that stuff, but they're always going to continue the same game plan. It's just, are they going to be successful or not? And I think biblically it talks about that. And biblically, it says in the end, that they will be actually successful.

And they will take over the world. they will be the ones that are rulers of the world. And right now, I think that's why so many people, regardless of what your politics are, are, I think when Donald Trump was elected president in the United States or America, I think there was a lot of people that just gasp a large sigh of relief because they felt like maybe this is a pause to that global takeover because the United States is one of the main puzzle pieces, maybe the last remaining puzzle piece against the New World Order and the one more government, especially we look. at the, you look at Europe, the United Kingdom, Australia, how much they are, you know, censoring speech, people that post stuff on social media, they're being arrested, there are cops coming to their house. And that was what we were about to face. Had not Donald Trump been elected into office in the United States.

And I think that's why so many people are, you know, breathing a sigh of relief. But even he has a large uphill battle that he's going to have to fight the globalist, for Sure. Now, I felt something different with these things. I think, in my opinion, they, you know, they're like a mini stone hedge. And for centuries, people have been trying to examine the stone hedge and why it's so popular and why it's there and how these huge blocks got where they were. How could humans even put them there and put and arrange them where it's like astrological, it's biblical, it's everything. And the same thing. It's almost like to me, these stone hinges or guide stones in Georgia are like a mini stone hedge. And the reason why I think that is because of the way that they were built, they were built in a particular way where they were, you know, where the sun is at noon, where you have a compass, where you have astrology. And it kind of reminds me of the Bible. But it also kind of, it kind of reminds me of. The pyramids.

Yeah, the pyramids too. but it also reminds me these Ten Commandments, right? But the Ten Commandments are not like the Ten Commandments of the Bible. And it's just weird to me that the first commandment is to depopulate the world. And the first thing I think about is COVID. I think about Bill Gates. I think about Bill Gates Foundation. Like people that want to depopulate the world and say, we have too many people,

and this is the message on these stones. And of course, the first message is the most important. right? And that's what it says. Yeah, the first message, by the way, is maintain humanity under 500 million and perpetual balance with nature. If you look at globalists, they want to depopulate the world. They do not hide that whatsoever. They consistently say it. They say it in the world economic forum. And they look at people like Elon Musk. He keeps saying that I think that the world is very underpopulated, actually. And if you look at how many kids Elon Musk is having, he obviously believes that. And to be honest, I did not.

even know he had so many kids until my mom told me because she's the one that watches CNN. I had no idea. And I'm like, Chad, we got to look this up. He's trying to solve the underpopulation problem himself. He is a Superman. Sam, what do you just kind of think about that, though? Just in general, do you think, do you, how do you see the Georgia Geistons? Do you see this is something that, you know, if you think about $700,000, it would have taken to erect this in today's currency. Now, I don't know what that means for 1980, but still, it's the same amount of money.

And this person didn't want to be known. That's what's crazy about it. Yeah. Yeah. This is one of those conversations. Chad, you always say that like we should do a podcast of the way that we talk, just having like rabbit hole conversations. And this feels similar. Like, this is the kind of stuff I like to talk about because it has me thinking in all like different possibilities. So it definitely makes me think about the pyramids. Because like there is a whole, I've been peripherally aware of the Georgia guidestones, particularly when they were destroyed, but I had never done like a deep dive, but I did look into it, obviously, especially before we have this conversation. And to Sherry's point, there's a hole in the center that aligns

with the North Star. And then there's a slot in one of the slabs that's aligned with the sun's solstices and equinoxes. And then there is a capstone hole that's allowed a beam of sunlight that comes through at noon, which is marking the date. And so this does sound, like not just the pyramids of Egypt, but like we found places all over the world that, you know, are pointed in particular directions. And to us now in current day,

we think like, how did they possibly know that? And it really makes me wonder, like, is Graham Hancock correct? That we have had these civilizations in the past that have been very, you know, advanced technologically, maybe not in the same way that we are,

but that have been destroyed. And so now looking back, we have this idea that those people should have been so antiquated. that like how did they have like this futuristic information, but maybe they didn't. Maybe they live similarly to we do now and they understood all of this stuff.

So there's that aspect of it. But then I also think what if this is almost like a study, like these people are saying like, hey, we think that if these things would have been done early on, that like this could have made for like a better society. So I certainly don't believe in depopulation because the people are already here and they already exist. But I do think there's something to be said for the amount of people in the world

and how difficult it becomes when a society is that large. Because like the government, the structure that we have right now in the United States, interestingly, to your earlier point, Chad, the people that voted for Kamala also seemed to feel like they were going to be in tyranny if Trump won. And that seems to be what they think. So everybody has this perspective that, like there's a new world order coming of some sort. Everyone seems to have like this united fear of that.

We just are on opposing sides of it. But when you think about it like this, I always try to take society down to like the, we're on a deserted island analogy. And if it's like a hundred people that crash on a deserted island, it would be very strange to allow just one of those people to dictate everybody else. You would be a lot more cooperative.

And you wouldn't just like toss people in jail for like this or that. You'd have to make agreement. There would be democracy. We lose that when we get so large. Like that doesn't really scale up very well. So what if this is an idea of like, hey, if we do have some sort of destruction event, maybe next time we try to balance things a little bit better. Yeah, it's interesting to say that too, because even like with the deserted island thing, and even if you go back to like Survivor or any of that stuff where, you know, these groups build alliances, right? And that's essentially what the government is, is you divide and you can conquer based on the alliance building. And as long as you have the bigger alliance,

you're going to win. I mean, and that's just the way the world works. And so you have the United States, you have Europe, you have Australia, you have all these other countries, Canada. Either way, you have these alliances, these smaller alliances. But then say you have like this New World Order come in. They say, look, you know what? we have all these alliances, but we have all this money and all this power. And so instead, what we need to do is we need to create a, at the very most, I guess, a two or three part alliance. The more people we can bring on in our alliance, the better.

And I think it just goes even back to like the Survivor series or any of this stuff, where to survive in many cases, you've got to go for tribalism. I mean, that's the way even it was in the Indian days, you know, the Native America. They all had tribes. They all had various factions. They also fought each other other than the white man. I mean, Indians used to also fight each other. People forget.

And they used to kill a shit out of each other. Other tribes killed other tribes. And that's just the way it was. They tried to dominate the land. There's always a power grab in hold. That's always, always going to be the case. I don't know what changes that. But now you have this system that has been trying to be put in place for a very, very long time.

It's a hard system to not only kind of try for, but also actually achieve to where you have a global system, to where you control all people. And the global power structure, you know, if like I said, go back biblically, it says it will happen. And it'll happen in ways that they will use any and all ways to do this. Whether that's pandemics, wars, nuclear war, it doesn't matter. they just need a lower population because if there's no way that a global system is going to control 8 billion people. It's just damn near impossible. And so what is the best way to control the world is by making the world much smaller in population

because you have a much better chance of a control in 500 million people versus 8 billion people. But I think to your point, Sam, it goes completely back to alliances. And I think even that is what it is from Survivor Show. to politics, to countries, to then the New World Order, it is all a alliance system and who's going to gain the most power is the same way if you play chess. Is the other person going to win or are you going to win? And that's just one versus one. But then say you have two versus two and three versus three and ten versus ten, it just gets

bigger and bigger and bigger. But what the New World Order and the one more government wants to do is they want to achieve global power and dominance. And so what they want to put all of the most powerful people. people at the top. And they all work their money and their influence and everything else to control the world. And I think that's why many people should be against that. And I think that this Georgia guidestone, I guess, idea of what it actually says in some of these, I guess, commandments. These are the inscriptions are essentially 10 commandments. And I'll just go ahead and tell you

briefly. The number one is maintain humanity under 500 million in perpetual balance. Number two, guide reproductive wisely in improving fitness and diversity. And so the reproductive thing or reproduction is interesting because we've been hearing all about reproduction. Even if you go back to Planned Parenthood and how much a certain faction of people in the United States and abroad continually want to push for abortion. Interesting. But also unite humanity with a living new language. Rule passion, faith, and tradition. So it says rule passion, faith, and tradition.

tradition. You got to rule that because you cannot take over the world if you do not rule people's passions, their faith, or their traditions. And that is, you know, if you're a globalist, you're a new world order, I don't know, higher elite, you know that you cannot take over the world without trying to figure out how you're going to take over their tradition, faith, and passion. And then also project people and nations with fair laws and courts. And that says fair laws, but we definitely do not have fair laws in courts now. Let all nations rule internally, resolve in external disputes in a world court, in a world court.

See, that's where it goes back to globalism. Avoid petty laws and useless officials. Useless officials is in probably presidents, prime ministers, people that are over countries. They don't want that. They just want a global high ruler. What about USAID or U.S. aid? I don't know.

balanced personal rights with social duties prize truth beauty love seeking harmony with the infinite and be not a cancer of the earth leave room for nature leave room for nature it says that twice now i want to quickly get to a clip and we're going to break this clip down because history did a great piece on the georgia guy stones and where it really goes into various aspects of the georgia stone hinge and the apocalyptic powers potentially that this monument had. Now, this actually was done back previous to 2012, but I want to play this to you guys

to really get a full understanding. We're going to break this down multiple times throughout. So make sure you listen throughout the entire clip, and we're going to break in and discuss this. Listen. What better way to do something mysterious than to have a granite monolith, you know, rising up in the middle of a field?

So how long have we been driving from Atlanta? It's been about two hours. Oh. There it is. It's isolated. Why here in the countryside of rural Georgia? Well, if they wanted the middle of nowhere for guidestones, they got it. It looks like a little mini stonehenge rising up in the middle of somebody's corn field. There's no corn out there.

I was looking at the stonehenge, not for the vegetation. Scott's a city boy. He doesn't know. Hey, Scott, be cool. Somebody's watching us. That's a little creepy, isn't it? Who's watching us? I don't know. It's in a control room somewhere making sure we don't mess with their monuments. See the hieroglyphics up at the top?

Wow. Look at this. There's a whole Mac right here, buddy. It goes through the thing. You can see right up through this. Oh, that is very cool. Looks like there's a bunch of different languages. I just Googled this, and we've got English, Spanish, Swahili, Hindi, Hebrew, Arabic, Chinese, and Russian. They're the eight most common languages in the world.

like to me it seems like a weird new 10 commandments. Is it 10? 10? That's weird. Yeah, good catch. How and why the guidestones were built has never been answered. Here's what we do know. A man using the alias R.C. Christian shows up at the Alberton Granite Finishing Company on a summer day in 1979 and he tells them he wants to build the Georgia guidestones. Now this guy's got money. a lot of money. The only thing he absolutely demands is that he remain completely anonymous. To this day, no one has been able to figure out who he is. The stones were unveiled during a public ceremony in 1980. They were controversial immediately. Supporters like Yoko Ono, and come on, of course Yoko Ono supports him, right, praise their message as a stirring call to rational thinking.

But opponents attack them, calling them the Ten Commandments of the Antichrist. The first nine seem to be a benign call to higher thinking. Don't be a cancer on the earth. Seek harmony. Balance personal rights with social duties. Avoid petty laws. Resolve international conflicts in a world court. Protect people with fair laws.

Rule with reason. Unite humanity with a new language. Guide reproduction wisely. But it's the final direct. on the stones that sets off everyone's spider sense. Maintained humanity under 500 million in perpetual balance with nature. Wow. That's interesting.

That's a directive? The directive makes some believe that the guidestones are calling for the mass murder of billions of innocent people. So Buddy Mac and Scott are meeting with Raymond Wiley, who's researched the stones for many years. In fact, Wiley's even written a book about them. Might be able to shed some light on the story for you guys. What do you want to know? Who built it? Well, we don't know exactly who he was.

I mean, the biggest clue that we have is his pseudonym R.C. Christian, which seems to harken back to this guy, Christian Rosencruz, which connects this monument to the idea of the Rose Cross or the Rosicrucian fraternity. Does this particular design have a purpose? Yes, it's designed primarily for the astrological alignments that the guide stones mark. So if you'll notice the stones as they face out this way, those are to mark the sun rising at the extreme points of its east or west progress. The mail slot meant to mark the winter or the summer solstice.

A shaft cut through the center stone marks Polaris any night of the years. A slit cut through the top of the capstone will mark perfect noon time throughout the year. So you've got a calendar, you've got a compass, you've got a translator, a guide. It's a granite Swiss Army knife. There you is. Some people believe that it's merely a publicity stunt by the granite industry here to try. to bring tourism in. So yeah.

They could have done it so much cheaper. It just seems like so well thought out for a tourist stunt. This to us looks like a modern day Ten Commandments and everything on there, there's nothing to be offended by except that first one that says we need to limit population to 500 million. So with six and a half billion people in the world, somehow six billion of them have to be eradicated? There are people that believe that the Georgia Guidestones represent the plans of a Malthusian new world order that's going to take over the the Western world. Yeah, I started looking at some of those things and thinking, wait, that means

like an oppressive government is going to start telling me what to do. Well, this is many people's fears, and this is a lot of the reason why there's been so much vandalism here on the side. Many people have called for it to be torn down, even from the very beginning. If you try to deface this, you can go to jail. Yes. If you'll notice the Elbert. All right, I want to stop for a second here, because we got to break a little bit of this down. Obviously, they pull up to the Georgia guys zones. There is a camera box system that is. is monitoring everything that happens at this location at all times. And it is Albertson County, Georgia Sheriff's Department that actually monitors this.

And part of the reason is because of all the vandalism, but also some that don't mention in this clip is the land. Sherry and I, Sherry actually asked me earlier, said, who owns the land? Who owned it to begin with? Well, the land where the Georgia guys stones were built was reportedly owned by Elberton Granite Finishing Company. So this is the same company that actually built. built the Georgia Guaistons for R.C. Christian, whoever this person or group was, and this was at the time of construction. But the monument itself was commissioned later on, 1979 to 1980. After the guise stones were completed in 1980, ownership of the land and the structure was transferred

to Elbert County, Georgia. And this meant the county maintained the site until the monument's destruction in 2022. So I don't know who bought the land afterwards, but obviously they got rid of it. but the very interesting thing is the county themselves from 1980 and this is just my thought and Sam or Sherry you guys can give me your opinions on this obviously this guy wanted to remain so anonymous he went into the Elbert Granite finishing company and said not only do I want you to build this but I'm going to give you the money to buy this piece of land and then you are to erect this monument on this land because I am not going to have

any part in putting this monument up, and I do not want to be traced at all. So they literally gave them money to the finishing company, the granite finishing company, to buy the land to then put up on this piece of property. And then very, very shortly after, I don't know if they donated the land or how that worked out, but the actual county took over land until 2022 when the monument was blown up, although this monument was supposed to withstand apocalypse and it got blown up by an IED which is kind of interesting

but either way very strange right Sammy do you do you guys not think that's weird and why would you want to be so damn secretive what was the point of this guy stoned in y'all's opinion I really don't know

I mean I do think it's interesting that they were that anonymous I mean from what I read about it they are unsure if it was just one person that did this or if it was like a group of investors. I mean, clearly, this is to get some sort of message out. I don't think that this was any type of like stunt for tourism. I can't imagine that anything this intricate would have been erected for that reason.

But it does make you wonder, it makes me think about, you know, with what all we're learning right now about USAID and just how, I don't think we even understand exactly how propagandized that we are. I think we're learning more and more about it. But it makes me wonder if the person that put this up, like legitimately believed these things and was trying to pass this message on because they thought it was important for humanity, whether they're right or wrong about that. Or if it was put up to, you know, intentionally give the opposite impression to people and to mislead people into this idea. And especially because of the mystery behind it, knowing that people were going to read a lot into it, because it does kind of take you back to, the pyramids and so forth, it's obviously going to intrigue a lot of people.

And if the message is not genuine, but it seems that way, then I think a lot of people may start to follow that message. Yeah. I totally agree. And I also think that it might even go deeper than that, that it goes back to these occults, these Rosa Christians. I don't know the exact Rosa Christians, I guess. Yeah.

There's a deep set history in Georgia of free. Masons. And when you research this stuff, they're all kind of like octopus legs, I guess, of these occults. And Georgia had a huge free mason population. So that's why I'm wondering if that's why they put these Georgia guidestones in Georgia on top of a mountain. And let me remind you, most of you, I don't know if most of you know, but, you know, Stone Mountain in Georgia, I think is right outside of Atlanta is all granite. And these stones were made out of granite because that's where it comes from. Yeah, Albertin is one of the most, I think it's one of the biggest places for granite in the world. Yeah. And it can withstand like anything. Separate. Or tornadoes.

Yeah. Well, obviously we know. But when this video was being made, they thought it would withstand anything. Obviously, somebody blew it up because they didn't want people to know about it and they wanted to be hush. And I guess that would be the proponents of these people that didn't believe in the 10 commandments that they put on the stones or what they represent. I don't know. Well, and let's just talk about this.

In 2022, this was blown up. They have not caught the person that did the actual blown up of the Georgia guide stones. And I don't think, you know, I don't think necessarily that the person or people blew the Georgia guy stones up because the message are starting to get out there and people are getting upset about it. I think more than likely someone that got upset about the message, which they have been since 1980. Someone eventually finally said enough is enough and we're going to blow this shit up,

especially you get to remember this was done in 2022. So this was after COVID-19. This was after the pandemic. And if we all remember, during COVID-19, the pandemic, this population control thing really started to gain a lot of traction with especially Bill Gates and Operation or Event 201. And all of the things he said about vaccines and forcing vaccines on people. and then also just COVID-19. And then people started hearing about Dr. Falsy and the U.S. government and NIH and all of these

agencies, the bureaucrats, many of the bureaucratic agencies that, you know, that Elon Musk and Doge is finding through USAID and others to where the amount of money that went to these agencies to essentially go against you to either make you sick or force you into a vaccine or whatever the case is. We know in many cases that the vaccine has caused a lot of fraternal or, oh my God, fertility the issues, you know, the sperm count issues for men. There's so many different conspiracies around the vaccine and COVID itself, besides just how they actually responded to COVID-19, you know, the fact that they hid, you know, you taking vitamin D or all these other natural supplements that actually could have saved many

lives, but instead they only pushed either the vaccine or a ventilator. If you got sick and were sick enough, you either got on a ventilator or you took the vaccine, once the vaccine was available, and they basically demonized anything that was natural medicine. And so this was going on during the time someone blew this freaking monument up in 2022. And I think someone had finally just realized that, holy shit, we've been pissed off about this monument for so many years. We thought that the entire time this monument really meant the depopulation of the world.

And I think now we're seeing this. I think that's why someone blew it up. Sam, what's your thought? In terms of why someone blew it up, I think you're probably onto something with that. I think that there's a lot of people who see this as a, you know, symbolic to the idea of a new world order or all of these things that seem to be maybe coming into like culmination right now. And I can see how that would definitely inspire a particular group of people to take action against that. Just generally speaking, I think that one thing that doesn't get talked about a lot is that you don't really need everybody.

to be in on a particular conspiracy or agenda. In fact, you likely are going to have the vast majority of people who are really not in on it. So when you have something like the New World Order or like, let's look at what happened during COVID or just vaccines in general, because, you know, I've been on before we've talked about this. I believe that the vast majority of medical professionals do not intend to do any harm. I think the easiest way to get people to abide by a certain agenda or adopt a certain philosophy is to make them feel like they've come to that conclusion on their own. And so then they are truly acting in what they feel like as a genuine nature to their own beliefs and morals and whatnot. But ultimately, you are getting them

toward a specific goal. And so with something like the New World Order, you know, if you're trying to accomplish this, I actually think the New World Order goes against human nature. Because like you were saying, Chad, about like, survivor and alliances and whatnot, the need for alliances does not really occur until you have conflict, because up until that point, humans tend to be rather communal. We have to operate together in order to survive. One person can't do all of the things. That's why we have, like, division of labor and so forth. But once a conflict arises in a group, then you do start to have alliances, and then often you will break out into tribes, like you said. But then as the tribe grows, you kind of go into the same process again where initially everyone is very communal.

And then once there start to be disagreements, there has to be a way to settle that. And oftentimes they continue to break and break and break. And so that's sort of what I'm saying about the population like of the United States. I mean, and there are other countries that are much bigger, but it really doesn't scale up well. That model does not work at this size. And so I think that's why we have so much splintering like we do now. And I think the idea that we just have like a core government, quote unquote, that's supposed to be representative. I mean, the idea is that there is no way we can all participate in the system because there's way too many of us.

So we're supposed to just pick certain people to go and like represent our will. But that doesn't really happen anymore. So none of that's conducive. And so a world order where you have just one, you know, elite group at the top that everyone's falling under, we would just end up in the same boat that like those people at the top. And I think we're actually seeing this a little bit right now. I think this is like, I think a lot of people are waiting to see how this is going to pan out between Trump and Elon.

Because you do have a lot of people right now who have sort of like joined forces who are elite in their own way. But the odds of them completely agreeing and being able to move that goal together with no conflict, slim to none. And so then I think you just go through this breakthrough structure again, where you end up in alliances and then so on and so on. So, no, sorry. I, I, you had said not all doctors are bad. And I think this is a great point to talk about for a second, because if we want to talk about New World Order or even the, even the, the multiple power structures and a coldism, right? And I think there's a lot of people that may compare RC Christian or the structure of, of, of the religion behind the Georgia Guidestones, what many people believe,

may connect R.C. Christian to the, what is it called? Oh, my God. Rosicrucians. I don't think that you have to have all people bad in anything, right? To control the world, you do not have to have all people bad in any faction. So, for example, he said not all doctors are bad. You are completely correct. But if you are a global governance system such as the World Health Organization, or the CDC in a national sense, right? And to where you, for example, during COVID-19 and the pandemic, you had the World Health Organization when you would go and look at a YouTube video. And if this YouTube video said anything even slightly off topic or off agenda of what COVID-19 was supposed to be about,

according to the propaganda and mainstream media, the Mockenberg Media, if there was any like if if one creator or doctor in particular said one little thing, a little off kilter from the agenda, there would be a tag under their video from the World Health Organization and it would say this is known to be miss and disinformation and you should not listen to this and you to get the actual information, you need to go to this link, which is the World Health Organization. And then it was a World Health Organization system compliance and law. they were the judge and jury in court during COVID-19.

And then you also had the CDC. So you say not all doctors are bad. You're right. But the problem was is that we saw not only the biggest wealth transfer during COVID-19 that we've ever seen in the history of America. And a lot of that is because of pharmaceuticals. But we also saw the biggest transfer of local hospital systems and health companies in the history. So whereas you would have these smaller hospital systems in rural, rural places of whatever state you may live in.

And you started to quickly see these hospital systems, these smaller hospital systems, doctors offices, whatever. They were all started to be bought up by whoever the biggest players were in that state. They all started buying up the hospital systems. And then the hospital system said to the doctor's offices, especially to private doctor's offices, right? They would say, you either go with us or you're. going to be penalized, basically. You're going to have this. You're going to have that.

You're going to have this. So they all went with that structure. And then what did that do? Well, in turn, essentially put them under the power structure of the elites of the hospital and healthcare system. And this was all being set up during COVID-19. Same thing with the FBI, for example. Now, you could say the same thing with conservatives in Trump.

So Trump is electing Cash Patel and Pete Heggseth. And this has been the thing for years and years and years. You elect your cabinet. those people do what they're supposed to do, whether it be FBI or the health secretary, whatever. But those people are the leaders of all of the other agents underneath them. And when you get a bad leader, especially a leader that is imposed by a globalist agenda, such as I believe many of the people that were put in place under the Biden administration, were they had more of a globalist,

anti-American, anti-conservative viewpoint, that doesn't mean all the FBI agents, the CIA and DOJ are bad, but it does mean that they have figured out a way to put these people in place that had the globalist mindset

to destroy America. And that's what a lot of people thought. So I'll take this a step further, and I'll say that I think in general, human nature is not nefarious intent. I think the overwhelming majority of people want to do good things and want to be good people. The issue is that the very small percentage of people who do have nefarious intent, they are very manipulative and they know this.

And so in order to have a goal that's ultimately harmful, you have to be able to find a way to convince people that they are doing something good to be able to have enough people to perpetuate this. And so I think that's what we're seeing with all of the doctors and whatnot. Like that's just one example of, you know, many different faculties that we could look at. But I think that it's also like to your point about people that were speaking out during COVID, I heard somebody say, I wish I could remember who it was the other day, but they were talking about how if you listen to people who have been on like CNN or MSNBC

that have left or been fired or whatever, a lot of them will not speak against it. And most of them will tell you that they were never told what to say by the network, that they could talk about whatever they wanted to talk about. And that seems like a lie. But in reality, it's probably true. And it's because the whole reason that they ever held that position is because they got elevated to that by not going against the status quo of the network. So they were safe to the network. They knew that whatever this person was going to say was going to follow along with the agenda.

Once they move outside of that, that's when they end up getting fired. So when you look at it that way, that's kind of how you weed people out. So you end up with all of these agencies, you know, whatever the group of people is that's pushing toward this goal, you just weed out until you know that you've got the dissenters moved out of the way and that everybody that's left is following the same mindset. But I think in general, all of those people on the lower levels really believe that they're doing the right thing. they've been convinced of this and I think that's the only way you can get that many people toward a nefarious goal

is to make them believe that they're doing something good yeah and I believe you definitely to an extent for sure but I also think that you know there were at some point in time during that line a group of people probably some of their biggest you know stars or I guess personalities that they had to follow an agenda and I think I think in some ways even Chris Cuomo I think that's a great example

especially during CNN and now he's trying to kind of revamp his, you know, his image. But the reality of it is is that, yeah, I mean, I think, I think that especially the up-and-coming journalists, they set examples of people. If you talk against the agenda, guess what's going to happen? You know what's going to happen. You ain't going to be there very much longer. Mm-hmm.

But I think we have two different subsets of people. I think there are some people who will give in to the corruption because they also seek the power and the control and the riches that come along with it. And then I think there are other people that you can actually convince to do bad things if they feel like it is overall for a good purpose. Yeah, I agree with you. Yeah. And, you know, there was this mind virus during COVID.

I mean, because it was the perfect setup to brainwash people into fearing the system. And they did an amazing job. They did it with journalists. they did it with doctors. They did it with everybody. And then the few doctors or nurses or any of those people that spoke out, though, you got to keep this in mind. The people that did speak out that are very accredited doctors or even accredited journalist or whatever, those people that spoke out were demonized. And anyone that even entertained their conversation was demonized.

You were the problem. You are the sickness. You are the disease. And I can't tell you how many times during our podcast, especially back during our podcast, especially back during COVID where I was concerned like what we were talking about, even when we talked to, you know, Dr. Peter McCola and, you know, I was concerned. I was like, I don't know how, you know, the platforms will react to this. Will we get banned?

We don't know because, you know, I think our first interview with Dr. Peter McCullough, for example, was, you know, he had just won a lawsuit against his university, Baylor University. And he had been in hell because of what he had come out and, and talk to. about now Dr. Bina McCola and all these people that, you know, had all these protocols and trying to tell people like, just do this. It will save your life. Ivermectin hydrochloroquine. You know, they were demonized and called crazy conspiracy theorists in.

And now people are starting to realize, oh, Ivermectin does work. Hydroxychloricone does work. You know, it's just so crazy to see how everything is flipped and switched. And it's like, I think especially with USAID and regardless of what you think about Trump or not, what they're exposing with fraud and corruption and all the shit that's going on in Washington is insane. And especially if you think about how much of that money went offshore. It didn't, like most of it didn't even come back here except for whatever kickbacks or whatever money was paying the multi-millions of dollars to the congressmen or senators.

Because they made sure that these things went to supposedly all this aid across the world, which I don't even think the aid went across the world. If you look at the Hillary Clinton Foundation, supposedly she went and rescued Haiti. She spent billions and billions of dollars and Haiti's worse off now than ever before, but yet all that happened during the Hillary Clinton Foundation that went to Haiti was she got mega more rich. And a large part of that is because the resources that Haiti had. And it wasn't long after the Hillary Clinton Foundation went down to Haiti. They opened this massive mine that they were taking out tons of resources. I'm talking about everything from diamonds to, I think it was cobalt to, I mean, you name it.

No one ever knew who actually started and opened that massive mine, but it was during the exact same time the Clinton Foundation went down supposedly to help Haiti. And I think that goes back to what Sam's saying. I think the majority of the people think they're doing what's right and what's good for the people. And there is the top like 5% of the people that are doing this based on greed and, you know, getting richer. and doing what they want to do, forming a new world government or whatever, but the people that trickle under them, they get them to believe

that they're doing it for the good of the people. And I think that Sam's right on with that point. Yeah, and guess who, guess what Hitler's soldiers probably thought. They were doing it for the good. That's exactly right. Or they at least weren't willing to speak up. But like, to your point, Chad,

that's kind of what I'm saying is that you have an event like that happened. And then you kind of like, cleanse the system. So any of those doctors who did speak up and speak out, they got kicked out of the system. So they're no longer, a lot of them are no longer able to function within the medical community anymore. So now we're left with a medical community that is even more along that same mindset of like the WHO, for instance, because they've pushed the rest of them out. They've discredited them or even in some cases permanently taken their licenses or, you know, suspended their privileges or whatever. So they no longer get to operate within the system. And then to your other point earlier,

that system has now become much more centralized than it was before. Like we've talked about this many times that there's really no such thing as like a family doctor anymore or like an independent doctor. It is all these huge conglomerates. So when you first of all take all of that infrastructure and you push it into just a couple like a monopoly essentially, then you go through that monopoly and you cleanse out all the dissenting voices. Every time you do that, you're just, you're getting that group more and more in alignment with whatever the ultimate goal is. And unfortunately, the people who have the money and have the power, they are the ones who get to control that. Now, I do think there's a breaking point where enough people that have been either pushed outside of the system or who start to question the system, start to overwhelm the number that are in it.

And I kind of think that's where we are now. We seem to be like at this, like, the teetering point of which way is this thing going to go? And with, like, RFK Jr. being in HHS now. And then you also have J. Baudicharya over NIH. Like, I think we're at a point where we may start to see people rejecting this system. But I do think COVID certainly reinforced that the medical establishment was on board with whatever this agenda is. And I also think the event overall of COVID, I think there are things like this that they perpetuate every so often. And I think it is like it's like a barometer for society.

It's kind of to gauge like how much can we get away with right now? I think it's once they start losing power and they realize it. They're like, all right, we got to get something going again. We got to grasp that power again. And you probably need to check and see like how far out of power have we gotten? what can we get these people to do? It's pretty bad. Right now, we can't get eggs. So that's just the first step.

But even back to the point, like when we go to a family doctor, I feel like I'm talking AI, but it's like the woke version of AI. Like even my doctor, I'm like, hey, have you had your flu shot? Have you had your COVID vaccine? Well, let me, let me ask you this. And even when we try to talk to him about the COVID vaccine, he's like, nope, I don't want that's, that's misinformation. Okay.

That's misinformation. And he was like afraid to talk about anything because it was almost like he was afraid we had a recorder in the room or something that he was, his ass was going to lose his medical license. Seriously, it was like that. I mean, the function in the system, you've got to be like that. Yeah, he had to ask a series of questions. And I think it's because of what you said, they're not any longer a single practice of a family doctor. They're now in this colomerate of huge pharmacies and huge government and huge hospital systems that they have to go with the protocol that they say you have to do. Yeah, because there's a reason why they make all this shit tons of money.

And they did, they made all these, all these hospital systems made tons of money during COVID. And I think that was the push over to the new world system of global health care. Yes. It's a hive mind theory. You cannot have a group of people who are all critical thinkers and going to question the science and anything else. It doesn't work if you're trying to create some kind of, if you have a mass agenda you're trying to push.

You can't have people like that. You have to have the people who you can control, whether it be through fear or because you, you know, I mean, again, if you can make people believe they're doing a good thing, they'll do all of the work for you. Controlling people through fear and, you know, force, that's a lot of hard work. That takes a lot more people on the ground, you know, to continue that work.

But if you can manipulate people into believing that they're doing the right thing, they'll just do it. And they'll continue to do it. And they'll probably talk other people into doing it. Yeah, I mean, it's like the left. I mean, during COVID-19, that's like my body, my choice, unless it's the vaccine or anything that has to do with what the government's telling us to do right now.

And that's what's always been so interesting. And I do want to get to this next clip. This is a long, it's the same clip, we get we got to get a little further in this because for those that it's like where the hell the georgia guy stones go you have to understand that what we're talking about right now is exactly why people hated the georgia guidestones is probably the reason why people blew it up and so when we're talking about the georgia guidestones we may not be experts in whatever the hell is exactly on the georgia guidestones but you have to fully understand what the concepts of the world

global governance system is and how all of this has affected our lives recently. And I think that's what we're talking about right now. And this was erected in 1980. But even in 1980, people were like, hell no. This is really bad. We do not like this. This is like the New World Order, the one world government. And who would have thought in 2020 that the pandemic would have happened?

The government reigned so much control. We've been in this like perpetual cycle of just totalitarianism or at least a push for it. and we've seen it around the world. Let's listen to a little more about the Georgia geysons because it gets pretty deep, especially once we get into the Rosicrucians and kind of what they believe. And if they're a part of this, what does that even mean for our reality today? Listen. County Sheriff's Department has some surveillance cameras set up.

We thought the Rosicrucians were keeping an eye on. Oh, no, they've got the satellite for that. Now I get it. Yeah. So what do you think of that? There's some unsettled business for me. One is who was R.C. Christian? Is there anything to find out about him?

And is R.C. Christian connected to the Rosicrucian order? Don't you wonder what's running through the mind of a person that conceived of that idea? I have to admit, I think it's brilliant. I think it kind of is cute. And maybe it won't be needed. On the options that it is needed, it saved humanity. So you know what, though? So much arrogance in that because the people who are against this thing are going to say, well, so are you playing God?

You may be talking about a group of people who are tapped into a knowledge that modern technology can't get you. You know, I mean, this stuff is like we'll be around after computers are gone. I don't want computers to ever be gone. I can't live without myself. People think that the Freemasons are fascinating. let me tell you about the Rosicrucians. Christian Rosencruz is said to have founded the secretive Rosicrucian society in Germany in the early 15th century.

But some dispute that the man even lived at all. Some people say he's not even real. Some people say he's more than one person. To the members of the society, Rosencruz was a doctor who'd spent a lifetime gathering what he called sacred knowledge. He formed the Rosicrucians to pass on the learning to make sure that it didn't die with him. So at first, all the members were doctors. Each one took an oath to heal the sick without payment,

to maintain the secrecy of the fellowship, and to find a replacement for Rosencruz before he died. The sacred knowledge is said to include elements of alchemy and, just wait for this, psychic manipulation. Modern Rosicrucians are believed to have even been able to tap the ultimate power of the human mind. Some think the sect has evolved and they now seek to protect and guide human beings.

away from its own destruction. Others have accused the Rosicrucians of being out and out evil. To be clear, there are offshoots of Rosicrucians everywhere. Their main symbol is this. A cross with a white rose at its center. They call it a rosy cross. The R and the C from words rosy cross undoubtedly represent the founder's last name, Rosencruz. And some believe are a link to the R and the C in the Guidestones Benefactor pseudonym. R. C. Christian. Interestingly enough, if you look at the Georgia Guidestones from above, they do form what appears to be a rosy cross. Journalist Van Smith claims to have proof of the Rosicrucian's evil deeds, so Buddy, Mack and Scott are now on their way to meet with him.

The Georgia Guidestones contain hard evidence that humanity is currently under a very dire threat from a small cabal of cultists. Now, the Georgia Guidestones were built explicitly to survive an apocalypse. I believe that this apocalypse is going to be man-made. The most controversial commandment of all on the Guidestones is the statement to restrict global population to 500 million people. That would mean 6.5 billion of us roughly would have to go. It's going to occur probably within the next few years.

The guidestones themselves don't look like they're espousing evil. Pretty innocuous. What it really is is humanity's tombstone. And if you really want hard evidence that the Rosicrucians can be evil, look at Robert Kennedy's assassin, Sirhan Sirhan. The Rosicrucians have been accused of practicing something called assumption, the psychic ability to take over the minds of other people. and astral projection.

Astral projection? The ability to project your soul outward to distant areas and even move things with their minds, psychokinesis. If anyone was under mind control, Sirhan Sirhan was. If you read his diary, it is extremely chilling. This man was rambling and incoherent for months leading into the assassination of Bobby Kennedy. It looks like his mind was completely taken over and he had no control over his actions. Okay, no offense to Van here, but I've got to disagree.

Sure, Sir Han Sirhan was technically a Rosicrucian, but he became one by mail order. Mail order. I can be a bride by mail order, so that doesn't count to me. And it doesn't seem as if Sir Han represented anybody or anything but himself. Look at the historical record. During Sir Han's trial, five different mental health experts all testified that this guy was a paranoid schizophrenic. And the idea that the Rosicrucians were somehow controlling his mind mentally manipulating him to

shoot Senator Kennedy, that's just preposterous to me. All right. So got to pause here for a second because this host that is hosting this. Obviously, he's like, this is preposterous. There's no way that we could ever do some shit like this. The Rosicrucians could never do this. Okay. Maybe not the Rosicrucians.

I don't know anything about their mind control ability. I don't know for sure, but what I will say is that the U.S. government has long been interested in remote viewing and psychic abilities, primarily through classified and declassified programs aimed at exploring their potential use in intelligence gathering and warfare. So they had early interest in psychic warfare in 1950s to 1970s, late 1970s. So keeping in mind, you know, the Georgia Geistons was kind of erected in 1980. But the U.S. government, particularly the CIA and military intelligence, began investigating psychic phenomena due to cold war fears that Soviet Union was already developed in psychic warfare capabilities. Psychic warfare capabilities. So as this history channel host says, this is ridiculous.

Well, these are declassified and classified programs both alike. Reports suggested that the Soviets had spent millions on psychic research prompting the U.S. to explore similar methods. for espionage, reconnaissance, and even military applications. Military applications is in when they're talking about the Rosicrucians believed in what they said was assumption to where they believe that they had the psychic ability to assume their belief or their thought process on someone else from another location to influence them into doing something to what they want them to do. the United States government has practiced this for a millennial.

I mean, since the beginning of psychic time or anything we ever known. Think about Project Stargate, 1978, 1995. M.K. Ultra. Yeah, one of the most well-documented programs. Project Stargate was a top secret initiative funded by the U.S. Army, and it was later managed by the Defense Intelligence Agency or DIA to explore remote viewing. So they basically trained and utilized individuals with psychic abilities to conduct remote viewing sessions where they would attempt to visualize and describe locations, events or objects from

great distances using only their minds. You had Ingo Swan, Pat Price, Ed Dames, Russell Tark, and Harold Putoff. All of these people were able to do this. And the results were reportedly very successful in many cases. So this is not something that is just crazy. Not new. Like thinking about Stephen Greer, for example. Yeah.

And then like Sherry said, MK Ultra. in 1950s and 70s, while primarily known for its experiments on mind control in LSD, the program also explores psychic phenomena, including extrasensory perception or ESP and telepathy. So whereas this guy is saying here that, oh, this is crazy. There's no way, and this is ridiculous. This is not ridiculous. This happens. The U.S. government invest tons of money into this for various reasons, whether it be military applications or otherwise.

but you think about Sir Han Sirhan, which is supposedly the assassinator of RFK, was he potentially a subject or a victim of one of these cases of U.S. military intelligence? Like, how far off is that to you guys? I think you're spot on. And actually, RFK Jr. went and interviewed Sir Han, Sirhan, and he is pretty convinced that the guy, telling him the truth. And basically what he said was that he has no recollection of doing it.

He fully admits to being present there. But he said he does not remember pulling the trigger. He said he had absolutely no reason that he would have wanted to kill him and that he doesn't remember any of it. And that he feels like he was used as a Patsy. And RFK Jr., I mean, this is his father that was killed. Right. He believes this man after talking with him. And I mean, he is also fully aware of the shit that our government is up to, you know? Yeah. And since the CIA's inception, they have been doing stuff like this. And there is no doubt in my mind that like this playbook did not start with the CIA.

It certainly came from who knows how many centuries at least before this. And we just sort of adapted it into a way to use it in the United States. And when you look at the things that the CIA does, and now that we're learning all, all the things that like USAID does, you know, pretty much just as the CIA, but they can get away with it. Think about like the fake Twitter that they made in Cuba or the fact that we now know that they almost set up like these Truman Show type areas of the world where these people don't even really know that they're interacting with a lot of people that are actually, you know, assets of the U.S. government or whatever. You're operating within these systems like that where

you don't really know what's going on. And so you've got. people that end up being convinced to do these different things. They perhaps are hypnotized. They're doing, you know, astral projection or whatever. But from what I was reading about the Rocha Crucians, there's actually a debate as to whether or not they were real. And I don't even know that that matters so much because let's say that they're not, they were real to some degree. People participated. I think sometimes things like that are used to find people who are susceptible to that. And so like, maybe the Rosicrucians had nothing to do with why Sirhan and Sirhan did what he did.

But maybe because he did join it by like mail order or whatever they said, maybe that's why they found this guy and started grooming him to do this. Exactly. Because they were like, hey, he clearly is susceptible to stuff like this. He freaking joined a cult by mail. Like that seems like an easy guy to talk into doing something. Yeah. Let's groom him into.

doing this. And it, you know, in some, in some circumstances, it is grooming their mind as well. Yeah. It reminds me of Thomas Crooks. Yeah. The guy that tried to kill Trump. Absolutely. That's what I was thinking too. That entire scenario makes zero sense. And even if you go to Thomas Crooks and then the guy that also tried to potentially assassinate Trump at the golf course, what's the name, Ryan, or Ruth? Yeah. Yeah, Ruth. Ruth. Yeah. Well, that goes with JFK, who, who assassinated Jeff King, too. He goes with all of these people. Yeah, but you also have to think, so,

Libelsberger that blew himself up supposedly in Las Vegas, that essentially blew the whistle on or what many people either, I don't know, we don't know what the exact deal with it is. All we know is that Littlesberger, Matthew Littlesberger, that blew himself up in a Tesla cyber truck outside of Trump Hotel in Las Vegas, just what, two days after the incident in New Orleans. But he had sent this.

letter or this email and he talked about, hey, the drones you're seeing are Chinese government. And we are at a precipice of, we better figure some shit out because these are Chinese drones. Our airspace is invaded. We also have this technology. I know because I've been a part of this program. He also talked about other stuff. But he was at Fort Bragg. You got to also think Ryan Ruth was at Fort Bragg, the other assassinator for Trump.

Thomas Crooks, you know, he had various outings at the gun range where. CIA, DOJ, and others go to the gun range. And he did this for months. But I think what Sam, I think her main point, too, is what I agree with is the word grooming. They groom these people to do this. And then they're going to go away and say, oh, well, he was a schizophrenic and he was crazy and blah, blah, blah. And they used that to their benefit. Yeah, imagine if someone comes to you and says, hey, we want to, we want to recruit you for CIA.

and that's not at all how that works. Yeah, like, yeah, just, but just say that someone does this. So you think you're going to be a part of this mission that's going to be for the betterment of whatever. And then somehow you get in some type of classified system to where your mind is gone at this point. And then you are directed to do whatever the hell you got to do for the benefit of the system. And it sounds very similar to potentially Sirhan, Sirhan, I don't know, but even even as we're finding out more about the, JFK assassination. We're about to find out a lot, which I cannot wait for those files to actually be finally

released. But even Anna Paulina Luna has already talked about, from the evidence I've already seen, there was two shooters, which was never, you know, that's been hidden for years and years and years. It completely, in a lot of ways, takes out just obviously the single shooter method. And it also more likely implicates either Secret Service or CIA in a JFK assassination. But if you look at what the CIA does all around the world, this is what they do. That is literally their job around the world.

Their job is supposedly always been about protecting national interests. No, they do coups. They take down governments. This is what they do. Yeah, they assassinate leaders. They, you know, create uprisons. They do all of these things. But when they do that in America, that's when the problem arises.

But all I'm saying is that this host, I'm not saying he's a bad host. I'm just telling this dude. is that this is not so out there as you think it is. Do you not agree? Yeah, he's brain ash for sure. And, you know, it's one thing that, like, Doge is talking about doing right now is wanting to dismantle the Department of Education, which I wholeheartedly support for various reasons.

That's another podcast. But I have no doubt that the CIA does not start recruiting people as adults. I think that the people that they target, and I don't mean just anybody in the CIA, like, everybody in the CIA is not some like super top secret operative that's going to be involved in like a crazy mission like this. But if you're looking for an asset in the CIA, particularly if you're looking for somebody to groom to do something like this or to just be able to like, you know, having the chamber ready to go when like, I don't know, something comes up like a Trump like figure that you need to get rid of. You have to have people who are already like on the roster to be able to do this. And so you first all have to find people that are capable of being groomed because not everybody is. Like they've done studies that not everyone can be hypnotized, but there is a percentage of the population that can. And so you have to find these people first and then you have to groom them for a long time to at least be able to control them in some degree or to get them to believe whatever the agenda is. And so there's actually been this big thing that's come up online in the last few years about the gifted and talented education program, which I was. actually in as a kid. And there's a lot of people that say they wonder if this is a CIA program

through the Department of Education in order to start screening kids at a young age who seem to have like maybe high intelligence or they're on the spectrum or whatever to kind of like figure out, hey, if we got somebody that we could recruit for the agency. Now, I did not end up working for the CIA, at least if I did, I'm not telling you. Allegedly. Right, exactly, allegedly. But I I don't think that it, I really don't think that that's preposterous. The more and more we're finding out about what our government has been up to, I could not be less surprised if I found out that they are quite literally starting to find people when they're like five and six years old and following these people up through school. Like, I don't know that it's a coincidence that that guy was in like a Black Rock commercial that ultimately ended up trying to assassinate Trump. So was Ruth, by the way.

Wasn't, oh, Ruth was and then Libelsberg. Thomas Crook. Yeah, Thomas Crooks. Oh, sorry, Thomas Crooks. Yeah, Ruth was also, I believe, maybe in a Black Rock, but then Lible's Burger was on a show where they had like special forces guys. It's always someone in the media. Always someone.

They're like, hey, we'll be on a show. Seems to be embedded everywhere. So like, why would they not be in like Vanguard, Black Rock, State Street, all of that? I mean, that is who runs this country. So you can rest assured, exactly. You can rest assured that the CIA is in there for sure. Yeah, I agree. I 100% degree. I just wanted to break the show a little bit, and we're going to get to a little more of this because it gets more interesting. Just stay tuned. Listen. I see this dark cloud looming over all of humanity just on the horizon. And the evidence that I have uncovered in the Georgia Guidestones is so serious that if I had the time and resources, I would devote my life to uncover these bastards.

You're really scared. Yes. The next she was going to fall any day now. Pause. Sorry. Sorry, guys. It's been like five seconds, but I got to pause for just a second here because I forgot to mention something.

So what this guy is saying, I believe what this dude is saying. This guy is telling the history channel right now. And this was in 2000, I believe in 10 when he was saying this. And he says, we are going to have this thing that happens, that there's going to to be a dark shadow type government that comes in, they unleash something on the population, and it's going to be a dark time. Guess what happened? 2020, I mean, sorry, 2020.

It was COVID. And when I think about this in a lot of ways, I think about Anthony Falci, and I think about gain a function, and I think about all of the various viruses and the pandemic, potentially civilization killing viruses. that are in labs right now that our NIH or our various agencies, the bureaucrats, have funded. And so when you think about like what would be the civilization ending type thing, it could absolutely be a pandemic type virus. And this guy was talking about this in 2010.

It didn't come in, I guess, until 2020. So what about 10 years later? But either way, he was kind of sort of right, Sam. I mean, kind of what he was saying happened. but I almost think that COVID-19 was not, it didn't work as well as they wanted it to. I know that sounds crazy. Oh, I agree.

I think it totally backfired. Yeah, I actually just saw, I actually just saw on Joe Rogan when he asked, was it Mike Benz? I think he asked Mike Benz on Joe Rogan. He said, what do you think about the fact that this virus potentially could have been released intentionally?

And that's all that. And Mike Benz was like, well, you know, that's like the ultimate scenario, right? like to even think about that. But the reality is like how almost is it, how much almost was it not released in the general? Because I remember when the virus first happened, China blamed it on the United States,

like from the very beginning. And obviously there was very little talk about that, but I did hear it. China officially blamed the United States. They said that the military brought it over during the military games. I guess they had some type of military games around this time when COVID-19 was released. And so they blamed on the United States.

I don't know if that's true or not, have no idea. It doesn't matter. The reality is that we for sure know that Dr. Falci, NIH, various other doctors in the United States, were heavily funding and also preemptively gain of functioning the virus before it went to Wuhan Institute of Virology in China. So it's almost like we gain a function in the virus. We did all these studies in the United States. And then we sent it to China once it was ready to. be unleashed. And maybe we had an inside guy in China to where we could blame it on China that it was China that released this virus. Oh my God, China released this virus.

You know, and Trump came out as like the China virus, China virus. But what if it was the United States that did this shit? Because we were the original ones that was working on it. We were the ones that was funding the lab, which is why they have denied this shit extensively. Think about that. Which, I mean, I think it's possible. I don't know. I don't think it was meant to be, if this was an intentional leak, I don't think that this is how it was supposed to go.

I think that it was probably, the more likely scenario is that it was being developed as a bioweapon to eventually be leaked intentionally and methodically. But I think that this was perhaps an accidental leak along the way as they were trying to really hone in this virus to be able to, I mean, it would seem, based on the way this virus affected so many different people with like really specific symptoms that there was no doubt for me in the beginning that

it had to be, you know, engineered. I've never, I've never seen a virus that had such an array of symptoms and it affected some people so drastically in particular ways and then other people, not at all. And so I think that's what they were doing was they were trying to dial it in, and I don't think they were quite there yet. And so I think it did end up leaking. And that's why it just completely like wreaked havoc on the world. But I certainly don't think that we were over there just, you know, with our wonderful altruism of the United States,

trying to figure out vaccines for this stuff. Like clearly they were up to some nefarious shit. Yeah. But I think they took full advantage once it leaked to do sort of like a temperature check, like I said earlier, to see like, okay, let's see where everybody stands on this. How much can we get them to buy into? What can we get people like the overall public to agree to? I said from the get-go, like they're conditioning us.

Like it was very obvious to me. And I do think that that backfired a lot. I actually think that they took it immediately as a means of being able to push out a new vaccine. I think they thought they could get it on the childhood schedule. I think they thought all of these people who have been anti-vaxxers, here is our chance to finally shut them down forever. We will scare people enough that like they will buy into vaccines wholeheartedly from this point forward. And they actually ended up doing the opposite because when I was not vaccinating

my child initially, I was certainly the small minority and people thought I was insane. And then COVID happens, that vaccine issue comes up. And like, so many people started saying, wait a minute, what is happening here? And then they're like, hold on a second. If this is going on with this vaccine, let's look at these other ones. And now being an anti-vaxxer is not at all what it was 10 years ago. Yeah, absolutely. No, I agree. it's more relevant today because we witnessed something that affected everyone. And that is a very interesting concept. Let's get some more of this video because there's a decent amount left and it gets pretty deep.

So here you go. Sirhan, Sirhan, a Rosicrucian. Okay, that's one Rosicrucian to represent the whole. That's problematic. I don't think for a minute that Sirhan, Sirhan, Sirhan was under some sort of mind control, which is basically what we were just told. Well, the point is, some of these. groups, the Rosicrucians, the Illuminati, the Freemasons were interested in esoteric knowledge

that's given. So this kind of stuff is, they were thinking about it. Okay, buddy seems pretty intrigued by the idea of all things mind control. You know what my mom used to say about mind control? Fet. But he's been reading a book written by the Rosicrucians about how to unleash the power of his mind. So if we're serious about finding out what the Rosicrucians really stand for, sure, I'll play along. Let's test the power of mind control because you have no idea where the truth might be unless you look for it. You know what's weird though? I'm looking at some of these titles in the chapters. This is on the mystics developing your psychic powers. I think this is the stuff the Rosic Christians believe? Well, he was saying that this is some of the stuff they

really work to augment in their lives. So check this out. There are a couple of exercises to increase your psychic ability. I'm going to be practicing these because I actually want to work on my psychic powers. This is going to be good. This one. Multiply. two two digit numbers in your head like 24 times 67 the mental focus it takes to get the correct answer increases your psychic ability 24 times 67 you just go well the engineer can do that right yeah you just go 20 times 60 so you get 1,200 and then you take seven times that's really hard actually yeah here's how I increase my psychic powers yeah Google that's how I just use the calculator been built by a secret society known as the Rosicrucians.

The big question though is why? Some say the Rosicrucians are evil and that they're planning to murder billions of people so they can somehow maintain the world population of 500 million. I do not believe for one second that's true. Just use common logic. But the question remains, what's the Rosicrucian's real agenda here? On a remote hillside in Georgia, a giant set of stones are said to be the key to the future of humanity.

those argue, however, that the stones are no less than a call to genocide on a massive scale. Hey, Brad. How's everybody doing? How's those being adventure? It's getting interesting. I have someone. I think you should go speak to. Okay.

The person's name is Reverend Benner, and she is a Rosicrucian, and this is your chance to ask the Rosicrucian right to her face. This is your chance to get your answer. You're going to meet her actually at all places. I thought it'll be great at the Albertson's here. Hello. Hello. We want to learn more about Rosicrucianism, and we understand that you are a Rosicrucian.

Is that correct? Not exactly. If anybody comes up to you and says, I'm a Rosicrucian, the one thing you know is that they're not. What we usually say is that we're students of the philosophy. So what exactly is the Rosicrucian philosophy? Before the Roman church took over and decided that Jesus was a God who had become man, they actually were teaching and believing that Jesus was a man. man who became God. And the repercussions of that are huge because if Jesus is a God who became man,

then there's really nothing for us to do but worship him because he's unique. If he is a man who became God, then we truly can follow him. We truly can do as he did and greater things, as he said we should. Jesus was one of those. Absolutely. And there were others. He was probably the highest initiative we've ever had on this planet. Then he's a template rather than just something to be worship. Right. When we say we're going to worship him, you know, all we have to do is believe and we're fine. We don't have to evolve into. We believe that faith without works is dead. I like. And if you read in Revelation, it says you shall be judged by your works. Never once says you'll be judged by your faith. So I want to stop here for a second, because already,

Rosicrucians are saying that if they believe that the God became man, then you shall worship him. but because they believe that man became a God, they then believe that any man could potentially become God. And that's so true if you think throughout history with the pharaohs and everything else, all these kings that were wanting to be the God of society, it's easy to be a man that becomes God. But when you are a God that becomes a man, it's a different thing. Yeah.

So you're right, Sherry. I agree with that. And do you guys think that, you know, this, that this maybe is where a lot of our problems lie in the world is that so many of these, especially elitist, the globalists, believe that maybe along the same lines as the Rosicrucians believe, which is, you know, Jesus became a God from man. And maybe they also believe that I, too, can become a God. because Jesus, if he became a God, then I can do it.

Then I can do it the same. It's almost like, you know, the chicken or the egg, what comes first? Yeah. In my opinion. What do you think, Sam? I don't even know that it's necessarily tied directly to the concept of Jesus. I just think it's part of the human condition that there are always going to be some people who gain some power. get a taste for that power

and then I think they become overwhelmed with greed and usually power and money go hand in hand so you probably have both of those things active and once people start to gain power like that it's ultimately the logical conclusion always seems to be that they want to become gods

of some sort I think this is why we have AI right now I think this is why we have billionaires who have ran out of things to do here on Earth with their money. And so they're like, let's go to outer space. You know, they want to like literally change the direction of mankind. And yes, I'm completely talking about Elon Musk. I just think you always have that.

And if you have the right people who get in the right position to be able to further that, it's inevitable. Yeah, and let's all create, you know, let's create an all-knowing being such as AI, This is our friend Neeland. He's an all-knowing being. He knows everything according to what is available. But the interesting thing about it is going back to biblical history, they're saying, Rosicrucians, I mean, this is what she said. She's a student of Rosicrucianary, whatever.

I don't know if that's a word, but we're going to use it. She's a Rosicrucianist. Is that a word? I have no idea. But we're going to call her a Rosicrucianist. But she says that because Jesus was a man that became God, then we also, too, can be God. The then the finding line in the Bible, if people actually believe that would be the Virgin Mary. Right?

Because that is the entire story. And maybe that's in the Bible. Why? Maybe you don't believe in the Bible. But you want to create this facade or this belief that this child's, is the son of God. And so then therefore you tell the people that, hey, this is a virgin Mary. She's never had sex in her entire life.

She's a virgin. But God put the baby Jesus in her belly. You know, so that would, if that was a 100% fact, for example, it would take away their belief and their philosophy on the fact that Jesus was man and became God because then the actual inception of Jesus was godly. So I know that sounds, I mean, that's getting pretty deep. But if you think about what the Bible actually says, Virgin Mary, she's a virgin. And I put this baby inside of her because he is going to be the son of man.

So yeah. I think oftentimes you do get an origin story of a particular person after you get the narrative of who they are. I think this is why we often see prequels to series and movies and whatnot. That prequel didn't exist. There was no backstory necessarily to these characters. But once the movie or series is super successful, then you can go back and create a prequel to it in an origin story. And I think that we've, I think that's happened throughout history. Yeah.

Did you see the guy that debated? Do you think that happened with Jesus? I don't know. I mean, I'm so back and forth on what I think about the Bible in terms of like it's historical validity versus almost being propaganda in a way. Maybe not, maybe not like with bad intent, but to truly facilitate a good, like a working society that has, you can't have chaos in society and function well. And so I think even the Ten Commandments give us pretty good guardrails of how to keep a peaceful society in place. But yeah, if you had a person that was sort of the leader of this movement, which obviously people would start to idolize after a while. So like, let's say Jesus was just a man.

And I'm not saying he was or wasn't, but let's say that's the case. And there was a following and they believed that he was godlike because he clearly seemed to be elevated from mankind. And perhaps that's the origin story that they created to be able to explain how that could be true. Yeah, that's true. And Sam, I was asking you earlier, did you see the debate between Billy Carson and Wesley Huff? Did you ever see that? I did. Yes.

And did you see how Wesley Hunt or, sorry, Huff approached your Rogan about Jesus? Because I think maybe I need to play this quick clip. If anything, I got to play this. And Wesley Huff, by the way, for those that do not. know. He is a younger kind of, I mean, he's younger than I am, but he's pretty smart. Very, very smart. He's a historian, but he's, you know, he knows various languages, Hebrew. He has studied everything. He's a theologian, right? Yeah, he's a scholar on, yeah, theology. He wasn't, he didn't get into this to be a Christian or even necessarily believe in Jesus. He got into this to research

historical text. And he wanted to, especially when he went on the Jesus path, he wanted to see like the stories of Jesus' crucifixion, resurrection, and otherwise, he wanted to say like, how likely is this just based on historical text? And the reason I want to bring this up, and this is not a biblical episode, but, you know, as the, as I think the New World Order and the globalist movement and this entire podcast, that we're talking about as far as the movement against or away from Christianity or Jesus or God to where as she just describes, you know, this whole ideology is saying that you can then

become your own God. And I also think that even our last episode, which I encourage every single one of you to go listen to where we're talking about Alistair Crowley. And Alistair Crowley kind of believed a lot of this as well. Alastair Crowley believed that, you know, he was a god. And Nathan Jones actually said something to me the other day. He said, you know, he said, you don't me tell you the difference in good and evil. And it was interesting. He always asked me random questions like this.

I was like, yeah, I mean, or no, he asked me, he said, do you know the difference in good and evil? I was like, I mean, I could say many things to this. But he said, you know, good according to the Bible anyway, especially. But good, you do things for others because that is what God tells. tells you to do. It's not about you. It's about others. It's about your service to other people. That's not what the occult would lead. Yeah, exactly. And evil believes you do everything in yourself. Yeah, for yourself. So narcissism and just the extreme narcissism of that. It's like you do everything for yourself and you're the higher power. You're the God. You're the,

you're the almighty. And you want everyone to fall around you. And Jesus had all of this power that so many of us earthly beings want and desire. But instead of actually acting like the people that want that power today, including Alastair Crowley, he instead gave all of his love and all of his power and all of everything that he could possibly give to others. So if you believe that Jesus was almighty or holy and say that we know that and the fact that he still then went and gave everything he had to give to everyone else beside himself. that is essentially the message of good versus evil.

Do you care more about others or do you care more about yourself? I want to play this quick clip. This is when Wesley Huff confronts Joe Rogan about Jesus. And this is not a long clip, but I want to play this to you. Listen. What do you think of Jesus, like in terms of your own, like journeying and trying to find answers to ultimate questions. What do you think of the historical person of Jesus?

Well, it certainly seems like there's a lot of people that believe that there was this very exceptional human being that existed. So the question is, what does that mean? Does it mean he was the son of God? Does it mean he was just some completely unique human being that had this vision of humanity and this way of educating people? and spreading this ideology that would ultimately change the way human beings interact with each other forever. So is he the son of God?

Well, are we all? That's another question, right? Do we all have that inside of us? Do we all have that ability to change everything around us inside of us? Do we all have that unique connection to the divine? And is he a representation of the best version of that? or was he an actual person that was the son of God? And is it important?

Yeah. I don't know. I mean, what is it mean? It's just the fact that it's a question to ponder is a miracle in itself in a way. Just the fact that there's this concept of this person that died for our sins, that's the son of God. But you have to buy a bunch. You have to believe in a bunch of stuff to go that way. Like, just the concept of that.

is interesting to people because what it can do to people is offer them a very unique way to change the way they feel about the world itself. And if you do follow that, I know a lot of Christians or hardcore Christians or some of the nicest people you'll ever meet in your life. So it does work. You right? Like if you do live like a Christian and you do follow the principles. of Christ, you will have a richer, more love-filled life.

So it is true, right? But you have to submit to this concept that this guy was the child of God who came down to earth, let himself be crucified, came back from the dead, explained a bunch of stuff for people and then said, all right, see you when I come back. And you don't know how you can wrap your head around that particular claim. And if he came back, here's the thing. If he came back, who, though, could believe him today. with all the fake news and all the CGI and AI, like imagine that would be the most bizarre thing of all time.

If we get to a point where artificial reality is indiscernible from regular reality. And Jesus chooses to come back at that moment. Boy, that's the ultimate test of faith, right? When it's impossible to discern. if we really reach a point where virtual reality is indistinguishable from regular reality, which we're probably a hundred years away from that or something. Like how far, maybe not even that. Yeah, I don't know.

I mean, that's probably why Jesus came in the first century and not the 21st century. But imagine? Imagine if that's the big catch. Like Jesus does return, but when he returns, we're just so confused that we can't even tell. Yeah. Or maybe that's how we return. in the first place. Maybe it returns through AI. Yeah.

Maybe that's the portal to Jesus. I don't know anything about that. Yeah. That scares a shot. I really appreciate, I mean, guys that you're friends with, right? Like the Jordan Peterson's and the Douglas Murrays of the world or, you know, the Tom Hollins, not the Spider-Man actor, the historian, who talk about this stuff. I think I really like the way that Jordan Peterson articulates it. But I think he misses the forest for the trees.

How so? In that he sees Jesus as an archetype. And I don't think actually even Jesus. Jesus gives you the opportunity to see him as the archetype. Because I both, I have this love-hate relationship with all of Peterson's stuff because he seems to get so much right where he walks up to the line, but he doesn't want to cross over. And is the crossover, you think, connected to a life in academia? No. What do you think it is?

I wonder, and I'd love to talk to him about this, like how do you remedy this issue that, because he seems to think that the concept. of Jesus as an example is more important than the actual flesh and blood first century itinerant Jewish preacher who was crucified and rose from the dead physically, which is the claim of the gospels and the rest of the New Testament, that that's an example for us to look on and live by. But I actually think that Jesus condemns moralism. And ultimately what I see Peterson doing is looking at Jesus as a moral example. And if Jesus is nothing but a moral example, then you can save yourself and you don't actually need a savior. And so I think actually Jesus would have critiqued that because Jesus was very against moralism.

And how do you define Jesus being against moralism? Like, what do you mean by that exactly? Well, Jesus looks at the religiosity of his day with like particular groups like the Pharisees and the Sadducees who are these other like these other groups of Jews during his day. So we talked about the Essines, actually aren't mentioned in the Bible, but there are other groups like the Pharisees who are like lay scholars

and the Sadducees who are professional priest scholars. And he's constantly critiquing the fact that they have this hypocritical religiosity to them where they're doing things like tithing their mint leaves, like to make sure that they get all of, this is where we get the idea of the, letter of the law versus the intention of the law. Like, Jesus critiques them for that because he says, you're trying to do everything right and you're missing the point. So one of the things he says is, like,

if your donkey falls in a ravine on the Sabbath, do you pull it out? Or is that work? Like, what's the point of the Sabbath? Is it to not do any work? Like, is it to make sure that you're not working too hard because he might be breaking the Sabbath or like what is the point he says like the Sabbath was made for man not man for the Sabbath and that there's this intention this is the whole sermon on the Mount Matthew chapter 5 is he keeps saying you have heard it said but I say and he refers to the mosaic law and it looks like he's critiquing the mosaic law but he's not actually he's getting back to the intention of the law so and he he says you know you have heard it said do not commit murder but I say to you, anybody who harbors, harbors a hate for their brother in their heart has already

committed murder. And what he's getting to is like, what's the intention? What's the meaning of the law that God puts, gives to you? Because the law is like a mirror. It shows you how dirty you are. But his critique is he's like, you guys are trying to clean yourself with a mirror. That's stupid. It's just going to, if anything, it's going to make you more messy.

Like, get in the shower. The law is not what cleanses. you. The law is what reveals that you're dirty. And so in that sense, I think, you know, if Jesus is a moral example, it actually misses what I think Jesus actually said about what his purpose was in that you can't do enough. There you go. And that was something that Ger Rogen talked about Jesus. And the whole point of Jesus, and the reason I want to play that clip is just the reality of so many people believe, especially the Rosicrucians, that, and I think that's the problem with the world today is that so many people believe they are the God.

They want to hold and maintain all the power. And this is not something new. This has been throughout history. This has been even in the Old Testament, where you're talking about the Pharisees and the gods and what they call it as the gods in Egypt. to where these people believe that they were to gods and they ruled the land. And if they had the ability to rule more land than they did, then they would have. And so when you get to this New World Order of one world government perspective of,

I want to rule the world, that is essentially the god of the world. There are people in this world today, right now. They literally go and meet in groups in Davos, Switzerland. This is what I truly believe. they go and meet in these groups and they have, I believe it's a week long world economic forum and they call it an economic forum

but really what is what is really meaning is a world control forum and I think they say that about 20% of their meetings stuff that you guys will see on social media or whatever that's about 20% that's all public but the rest of that is all private and they are meeting behind closed doors

to figure out how they're going to rule the world. That's what they're doing. It's the same thing as what the builder board group did. And there's always the top power structure, the top elite that's over this group. There's always a power structure. Just like the military, just like your work, there's a manager, there's, you know, there's team leads. There's all these things. There's power structures and everything and including the highest level of power, which is the world economic form, in my opinion. in the world economic form that is inviting all of the most powerful people in the entire world,

these people also have a power structure. And there is a leader. And that leader wants to control the world and they want to utilize the power and the money and the globalism and elitism around the world to control the world. And that is what the one world government is. And so when we talk about Jesus, I guess, regardless of whatever you believe about Jesus, Jesus was someone that said that, hey, you know, I am this, but I do not want anything for myself. I want it for you. I want to give you everything.

And I think in the Bible specifically, when it talks about a antichrist or a one-world government, it gives you all the signs of what that means. Like, how are they going to present themselves? And what are they going to try to do? And how are they going to do it? It's like a playbook. And it's like the more years that go by in my lifetime. anyway, the more I'm starting to see all that playbook played out.

And I, you know, I've said this on the podcast many times. I remember when my mom, when I was young, growing up, and mom, I was like, she would watch these preachers on TV. And she's like, well, the end times is close. I don't know when. But like, looking back then, I was like, yeah, it's not that bad right now. But now it's like, I'm looking at this world. I'm like, damn, we're pretty close.

I mean, you know, we're in a battle right now. And this is not to be religious. this is literally just talking about the Georgia Guidestones and why so many people were in up in arms about the erection of the guidestones where it essentially laid out a man's ten commandments to the world global governance versus the Ten Commandments of the Bible. And it seems like the more years that go by, the further we get away from the actual 10 commandments in the Bible and God.

And so whereas we're moving more and further away from God into the structure and the power and the glory and not the glory, but the ideology of man versus God. And I think there's a lot of signs that are being put in our way right now that's showing us like, all right, keep on, keep on worshiping your man, your men. keep worshipping those people, those worldly beings, but I'm giving you signs. And I think that I think in a lot of ways that we are getting signs. I mean, damn. And I think people are waking up to that.

And I think there is a religious wake up call going on in America right now as well. Sherry, you mentioned something on Telegram last night about what was the video we just saw recently? I don't remember what we were talking about. The whale. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. I'm sure you guys have seen it. there's this guy kayaking in his dad or his father-in-law was video in him,

getting swallowed by a well. And I think about it goes back to Jonah. And guess what this guy's name was, Jonah? Yeah. And he got swallowed by a will. Of course, he got spit out. But I was like never in a million years when I heard that Bible story that I ever believe it, like a guy getting swallowed by a well and live, like I think a Jonah in the Bible story,

I'm not sure. I think he lived. Yeah, he lived. He lived. But he lived in the well for like three days or something. Oh, yeah. And then got spit out. But the premise of this thing is it does happen.

It happened in 2025. Yeah. And even going back to that a little bit briefly is like when we talk about CERN and what CERN's doing over there, which is the particle collider over in, I think it's Switzerland. But where they're starting to collide particles. And what they're trying to achieve is trying to find other. dimensions based on particle collision. And what they're finding is is that at the very least, we probably have 10 to 12 dimensions. And in those 10 to 12 dimensions, if you go and read and look into what it would mean to be

able to be in a 10th or 12th dimension, that means you have God like powers. And so it's like whereas science is trying to desperately prove or. They're trying to mimic it and say that we can have those powers. Well, yeah, well, that's maybe what they're trying to do, but what they're actually shown as probably where God may exist. So the fact that we've always said, well, we don't know where God comes from. We've never seen God. And that sounds implausible. Yeah, I think when I'm talking about, too, though, is like the remote vote viewing and being able to do like psychic things with our brains is in a different dimension than like the dimension we live in is what I guess is what I'm trying to say that they're trying to mimic.

Yeah, for sure. Sam, what's your thoughts on all of that crazy shit we just said? In fact, there. You mentioned that Nathan asked you the difference between good and evil. And that's very true. And it's sort of what I was saying earlier that I don't think people and become evil. I think that evil people just rise to the top. I think it's because you have. have to have that nature about you. This is why so many world leaders are narcissists. You have to have that in order to make your way to the top because you are going to have to step on some people to get there.

And then those people are incredibly good at manipulating people. And so that goes back to what I was saying about using the good of most humans to be able to get what you want. That's how you can get people to cooperate in these systems to ultimately drive toward a nefarious goal if they're doing a good thing. Yeah. I agree with that for sure.

What's going on. Yeah. And I think that's what's going on with the new world order. I think that these people who are meeting in Davos every year, I do not think they have good intentions, as they were talking about intentions there. But I do think the people, because otherwise, the amount of really powerful people in the world is so infinitesimally small.

compared to the rest of us. So you think, like, how does this even happen? We could just overthrow these people. But it's not the way that it works. And it's because they are able to manipulate people into following them and to doing these things. And it almost makes me wonder if that's why, you know, whatever you want to think about the Bible and Jesus,

like, whatever the ultimate conclusion is on that, there's so many warnings about the Antich. And to, what's his name, Wesley Hunt, Huff? Huff, yeah. about Jesus sort of condemning this moralistic idea and the idea of religiosity. I also think that religion in and of itself is bad, and it's because it creates a hierarchy. It creates almost a government of some sort.

And it does start to be a thing just for the sake of being, as opposed to having some sort of intention to it. And so like when you get into those waters with it, ballgame, And I think because if you have a group of people who are following someone who is good and they really are doing good things, it would be very easy for someone to co-opt to that group of people and to lead them into the wrong direction. And I actually think that we should all be very careful of that right now because I do think there's a large separation. I think we are all in this, probably everyone listening is, who is sort of aware

what's going on and we we see the patterns we see what's happening and we kind of have formed like a coalition at this point. I think we should just be very careful that we don't allow someone to enter into this coalition and to co-opt it and to turn us into the wrong direction thinking that we are doing what's right. Yeah. And Sam, you make a great point because we had talked about, you know, we had the biblical series on the show. We did the Old Testament and I had a lot of issues with it. and then I stepped away from it because I, you know, what we kind of both said, we're like, I don't know if I'm leading people in the right direction. Like if I trash what I'm hearing, is that the right way?

Because maybe I just don't fully understand it the way. I mean, and there was so many people to reach out to us on the podcast. As I said, you're not understanding the concept of this message, right? And I said, okay, I get that. I get it. Maybe you see it completely different. And that's kind of also why we stepped away from it because I don't want to, lead people in the wrong direction, you know, and that is the scariest thing to do is lead people

in the wrong direction. I don't want to lead Christians that may be Christians right now and believe exactly what they believe. And I'm a Christian. I mean, I consider myself a Christian. I believe in Jesus. I believe in God. How we all got to that, I'm not sure. And I have a lot of issues about all of that stuff. But I don't also want to, you know, lead people in the wrong direction. And I think the problem is, is that with the world today, that there are people that intentionally want to lead people in the wrong direction for their own benefit. And that's the difference, right? I want to lead people in the right direction for their benefit, not mine. And I think that's the difference, in my opinion. And when Nathan asked me any question, what's the difference in good and evil?

Well, for my definition, it's just simple. Like, are you going to lead people to the right direction for them or are you going to lead people in the direction that you want them to go? And I think that your answer always has to be that it should always be for the betterment of that person. And I think that unfortunately in the world today, people lead you in the way that they want you to go for their benefit. And I think that's the problem with this world is, and by the way, most cases of why they're leading people in that direction usually goes back to money.

Money is the root of all evil. They've always said this, but I think, you know, if you look at USAID findings and the amount of money that's being frauded and misappropriated and even resources in the world, it's all led by money, which is crazy. I mean, but that is the way the world works. And money leads to power. And whoever has power has power over the people. And that's the thing. Yeah. And if you have enough money, you have power.

I think it's that they have the money. Yeah. The money is the resource that allows them to further the power. Yes. Yeah, you're right. And so people might be looking at Elon Musk. There's so many people that when we talk good about Elon Musk, especially about Doge and what's going on with Trump, there's so many people to reach out to him and said, you just don't know about Elon Musk. But I don't get that because he's opening the eyes of Americans and the Americans that are still wanting to be asleep and go with, you know, how.

dare him get our social security numbers and blah, blah, blah, blah. But I, in reality, I mean, the Biden administration hired 80,000 IRS agents to go after us as Americans. And then when somebody goes after the groups, the groups, the people that went against us. Yeah, if they go after them and audit them, it's wrong. Like, I just don't get how you think that is right. Yeah. Yeah, it was perfectly fine by hiring 80,000 IRS agents to go after everyday citizens. It was perfectly okay to, you know, weaponize the FBI and the DOJ to go against American citizens. But when there's someone that goes against those people, those organizations go against the Americans, that's all the sudden when it's wrong. And see, that's where the problem is. And I don't know, I don't know the extent of Elon Musk. You know, there's been people that post stuff about, you know, I've been seeing stuff about his mom and all this stuff. I don't know about any of that. That's not my point.

My point is right now is that we at least have a government right now that I believe in a lot of ways has saved us at least for a few years away from the inevitable. And I do believe it is inevitable because, you know, if you believe at all in the Bible, then that's what's going to happen. That is what's going to happen. And right now there's a pause. You know, one of the things, but Project Stargate, not Operation Stargate, but Project Stargate with Sam Altman and the AI thing that Trump announced with Larry Ellison, where they're

talking about creating this massive AI infrastructure in the United States. And we did a podcast on that. You guys should go back and listen to it. But, you know, how China utilizes their AI is to surveil and control and tyrannize their people. That's how they use their AI. And so whereas Trump's administration may not do that in this administration, they probably and allow that to happen.

But what happens when that administration is over and you have now the infrastructure that is ready to control and surveil every freaking person in the United States or America? When that new administration gets in, that is going to to talentarianize the United States of America. Well, that's the scary part. But I think that's already been happening for a long long time. I think AI is just enhancing it. Yeah, we're getting closer and closer to it.

So the Georgia guys don'ts, we could play more of this clip. But I think the reality, we're already at two hours. And we don't usually do two hour episodes. We could do another hour, but we won't because it's 11 p.m. here. Georgia Guidestones, I feel like, was a message from someone. I feel like that is what the globalist want. I think that is why so many people had such an issue with it. I don't fully understand.

Number one, I don't think it was for show. they went to extensive lengths to make sure that that monument was erected in a certain way, just like the people in Egypt erected a pyramids for the constellations and the noontime sun and east, west, south, north, and all of this stuff. And then also inscribing their new Ten Commandments for an upcoming apocalypse. And what I will say, and I want to end this on a bad note, but, you know, let's just, Point this out. So what they say is,

is that every 13,000 years, there is a cataclysmic event. What many people believe about the Georgia Guidestones was that this guide stone was unveiled because of a 13,000 year cataclysmic event.

The younger Dryas impact, for example, was 12,800 years ago. It was a massive common or asteroid impact is believed to have triggered abrupt climate change leading to mass extinctions and the collapse of advanced human cultures like the globally tip tipa which i'm definitely saying that wrong and possibly

atlantis the event aligns with global floodmists and ancient oral traditions of a lost civilization you also have the solar cataclysm at the end of the ice ages 12 000 or 13 000 years ago and there are many researchers like robert shock and ben davidson proposed that sun undergoes violent plasma outburst called a micronova approximately ever 12 000 years And that's talking about solar flares and seeing a uptick in solar flares in the last two years. And keeping in mind, there are many space weather experts that are saying in 2025 it's going to get worse. So this could explain why massive ice sheets melted suddenly, causing sea levels to rise 400 feet, submerging coastal civilizations.

And then you have the magnetic pole reversals and crustal displacement. First magnetic poles weaken and flip every 12,000 or 13,000 years, making the planet vulnerable to radiation and geological upevils. And so how far are we from this event? So the last major cataclysmic event was 12,800 years ago at the end of the Younger Drys Period. And if you go into more of what this clip that we have been talking about already, cataclysmic events every 13,000 years, this is what the Rosicrucians believe every 13,000 years. There's going to be another cataclysmic event that they were not the only.

I guess what you can call religion that believes this. There are many religions. Science believes this. This is the recycle of Earth. Yeah, absolutely. And so if 12,000 to 13,000 year cycle holds, we are currently at the tell end of the next expected cataclysmic period, meaning we are very close to potentially a major event.

So how close is that? Well, some scientists suggest that modern climate shifts, pole movement, and solar activity indicate that we are due for another planetary upheaval within the next few decades or centuries. So we've talked about this many times. They always want to talk about global warming and climate change. But the reality is, is that every 12 to 13,000 years, there is a recycling of the Earth.

And so how many civilizations has Earth's had in its history? We don't know because there has typically been a recycling every 12 or 13,000 years. And we're talking about, you know, for example, Atlantis. And so the Rosicrucians also believe this. And so for some people believe that that's why the Georgia guidestones was erected to guide people in what they wanted. Like in a new world. The new world to be rather than necessarily the new world order now killing off seven billion people.

They wanted this to be, which is why they called it a guidestone to guide the new population of people. why they put it in all these various languages, because maybe there are this many people in Russia or China or the United States or whatever that survive this cataclysmic event, or maybe there's babies or young kids or whatever, and they survive this. And then someone finds this, and there's just new language and law among the land that this is the way that they think the world should go on. Yeah, but guess what? It got blown up in 2022. They get blown up. So that is not a godsend thing. So Sam, what is your, like, what is your close?

and thoughts on this. Like I said, we can get so much deeper on this, and we could, but it is 11 p.m. here on the east coast of the United States. What is your thoughts on the Georgia Guidestone? Do you think it was for evil purposes, or do you think,

because if you think about this in 1980, but into today's terms, that's $700,000 that was spent on this monument. And so someone cared enough to erect this, cared enough for whatever reason, whether it's the global agenda. Yeah, global agenda or not. What do you think about it?

I think it goes back to who did it because it could have been an elite evil person who was putting it out there with a nefarious intent. Or it could be someone who was convinced by an elite nefarious person and genuinely thought that they were doing the right thing. Yeah, about for $700,000? Well, it depends on who it is. if you think about Elon Musk, for instance, in my opinion on Elon, I'm very indifferent about him at this point. I do think that most of the time when you have an incredibly wealthy person who's wanting to have, you know, any type of control in a government, probably not great.

But I don't think that necessarily because he has money means that he cannot also have a goal of trying to do what's best for people. but for instance if he wanted to spend $700,000 on something like this, he probably would not even notice the money was missing. Yeah. So let's say that he is, he has good intentions, he's doing what's right for the country. And let's say that the goal that he has, that he's willing to spend $700,000 on, in our case is good. But let's say that it wasn't, but he thought that it was.

You know, that's why I say I think it's impossible to know if this is true. truly nefarious or if it's misguided. But either way, I do think it is a proponent for a new world order or, you know, global government. And I do not think that that is what's best for civilization. I also do not think that it will work. And I think that trying to get there is going to probably cause a lot of social unrest, likely more wars.

No good is going to come from this ultimately. Yeah. Yeah, it's a very interesting thing. And we've wanted to talk about the Georgia Guidestones for a while. And there's so much more to break down on this. And I mean, especially even going back into the Rosicrucians and kind of their belief systems and their psychic abilities or beliefs. But at the very least, I think that we did a good job, I believe, of just kind of trying to rationalize what people were angry about when this. monument was erected. And this was in 1980. This is not even now. You know, so. Well, and it's also that

we're taking it in today's world and applying it to what's going on today. Yeah. And I think that's what's more important than that. Yeah. And the crazy thing is people even believe that then, obviously. I mean, people knew this then. And we just don't hear much about it, you know, now to where what did people believe in the 80s and 90s? Most people do not realize and are awake like they are today as far as the dangers of the new world global governance system. And I think as we've talked about tonight, the system that has been put in place, whether it be the medical industry or otherwise, is a great example of that system. And that's what we always have to be on the lookout for.

And just because Trump is president does not mean that we are safe and we're protected. Because as I said, I think that he's going to be influenced. And the deep state in the global governance system is not going to stop their fight just because Trump's in. They're not just going to go and be like, well, we're done. We're closing. Yeah, we're closing up shop. No, it's going to probably get worse before it gets better.

And I told Sherry something the other day, I said, but it's been a very slow news cycle the past couple weeks, which is strange. Anytime you get a very, very slow news cycle as far as like nothing crazy has happened, man, you better get ready. I guess something is going to pop. And hopefully not. We don't want that. but we're just saying it's very ominous.

But Sam, listen, thank you so much for coming on the show. Thank you, Sam. Thank you for having me. Yeah, we'll definitely bring you back on. Guys,

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