Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Havana Syndrome Conspiracy Podcast | Direct Energy Weapon? | Or Alien Technology

Episode Date: February 25, 2022

What is really going on with Havana Syndrome and US Government officials falling ill due to a mysterious energy weapon that is causing brain damage to those affected. Could this be tied to alien techn...ology. We talk about how UFOs may be playing a role in this mystery, or if this could be another hostile country.

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Starting point is 00:00:16 Hello, hello, and welcomeated We're all fish in our streets. Swimming sorts of vicious trees. Hello, hello, and welcome to Investigator podcast. I'm your host, Chad, alongside my beautiful and sleepy, tired wife, even though she's not as tired now. Yeah, I'm waking up. This is part two of live. Yeah, and what an awesome song.
Starting point is 00:02:13 We got to talk about it again. Yeah, well, I didn't know what song I was actually going to play in the intro. I saw this song. I liked the song. And it's talking about Walking Dead. And it talks about getting in your brain. And this is exactly what we're talking about tonight. So that was perfect, babe.
Starting point is 00:02:29 It is. Good job. So listen. So for those of you listen and that we're listening live, we do apologize. Because we had a technical difficulty, which sometimes we have. And we're supposed to have Scott Banks' podcast on this episode. We're not going to have them on this episode, I don't believe, because it's kind of, we're having some issues. The microwaves are, like, messing it out.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Yeah, so we're having some issues, but listen, we're going to get Scott Banks podcast on. By the way, guys, I encourage you all to go listen to Scott Banks podcast on Spotify. His link is on our Facebook page. If you go to the Havana podcast post on our Facebook, you can find his link. It'll say open Spotify. Go check it out. Go support him. He's one of our listeners.
Starting point is 00:03:12 And we are going to bring him back for another episode. very soon. So, but we do. We had some technical issues and I don't know who side it was on, but we're going to have to just go with it from here. So, guys, welcome, welcome to Thursday night to 2422. We got one more day until Friday. Thank God.
Starting point is 00:03:34 We are very thankful for that. And just so you guys know, we've had to like redo one other podcast this week. So we did a double header. because it was deleted. Oh yeah, it was deleted. Yeah. So we had to redo that one. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:49 I was wondering what you're talking about. But yeah. One of our podcasts got deleted. Yeah, so we had to do a double header. So, yeah. We did. And now we're doing it again. Yeah, and now we're doing it again.
Starting point is 00:03:58 But we have to come to you because we just have to. I feel like, I don't know, almost bad if we don't do something. I know. Even on the weekends, though, I'm like, we should be talking. Yeah, we should. And not just talking, but being with our family. All right, guys. So let's just relax, man.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Look, you guys, we're going to give you, let's see, how long are we going to give you 30? We'll talk about random bullshit for a minute. You guys have one minute to go get popcorn, beer, drink, whatever you're going to drink. And then you're going to come back and we're going to listen and enjoy this show because, listen, this is very important. Listen, Linda. And it is very, like, conspiratorial. And this is something that is, like, out of the sci-fi series. and but yet we're actually living it.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Yeah. This is what's actually happening. And if you guys want to play a game. Havana syndrome. So what's our game tonight? What's the key words? I have no idea. If we don't get deleted or we don't start this over,
Starting point is 00:05:01 then you got to drink the entire bottle of whatever you're drinking. Or no, sorry, if we do. Not if we don't because then you're going to be screwed. I think we're going to, I think we're going to do it this time. Yeah, I think it's going to work. But anyways, guys, welcome to the podcast. Just sit back and relax. And that's something to share now we're talking about last night,
Starting point is 00:05:19 which I got to mention what we talked about last night again because we just did this and then now we're doing it again. You know, we talked about last night. We had the Russia Ukraine episode. And by the way, I'm actually going to kick my feet up right here. Because, like, I'm tired of, like, sitting up and just, like, trying to be all whatever. So last night, we talked about Russia, Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:05:40 and that's a very serious topic and it is and we also had someone on our Facebook page tonight which I don't even, I shouldn't even be giving them attention but we had someone on our Facebook page that was like, you know, we were just posting videos actually we had a couple people send us videos from their experience in Ukraine
Starting point is 00:05:58 Yeah, these are people that live in Ukraine Listen to us, yeah And so they send us some videos of like the fighting on the streets In their neighborhood. In their neighborhood at their house Yeah Like at their actual house like that's scary Could you imagine being in your own home and going outside and videoing and hearing like just gunfire everywhere around you and even people yelling?
Starting point is 00:06:20 That's crazy. That's crazy. No, it's crazy. I mean, because people are so accustomed and comfortable with their surroundings. And, you know, by the way, so is the Ukraine. And the Ukraine has been a sovereign and independent country for 30 plus years now. And so obviously, you know, anybody that's 30. years old and younger has known, well, I'm not saying necessarily freedom,
Starting point is 00:06:45 but they've at least known sovereignty and away from Russia and all that stuff. So, you know, just imagine being in the United States or being in Canada or being in Australia or being in the UK or wherever. And, you know, then one day some nuclear powerhouse country decides to invade you. And which, by the way, their military is 10 times what yours is. So even though they statistically, don't have a chance in this war. I am very admired by how the people and the...
Starting point is 00:07:17 I mean, I say admired, but damn it, I mean, they're going to have to fight. You're admiring them. Yeah, they're going to have to fight, and that's what sucks. I mean, it does. And it's going to cost... But what would you do for your country, I guess, you know? And that's the thing. Like, if another country invades us, I'm going to fight.
Starting point is 00:07:32 You know, and they're going to have to fight. And unfortunately, there's going to be a lot of people that probably die, and this sucks. This is a shitty part of war. It's a shitty part of... any of that. And I think we've got so almost desensitized or through TV and video games and everything else. No, I'm not blaming video games. I'm blaming Afghanistan.
Starting point is 00:07:52 I'm blaming Iraq because the U.S. media made us believe that just because it's Iraq and Afghanistan and those countries that they were nobody. Because this is the people that supposedly attacked us. And so it's okay if we go and kill whoever, right? even though we have Geneva Convention and all of shit, but I would love to know the number of civilians that were lost in Afghanistan, Iraq.
Starting point is 00:08:15 I would love to know based on us. I would also love to know based on civilians on other wars that have been fought. There are innocent people that are always, always, always going to be targeted in the crosshairs of any war. It doesn't matter what it is, and that could have been you. And so this guy that messages on Facebook night is like,
Starting point is 00:08:33 you're spreading propaganda. Why? Because I'm posting videos of what's actually happening, he believes that Ukraine is starting the war. Ukraine didn't start shit. You know, by the way, number one, and by the way, guys, we're going to get into the Havana situation in a second. We're just bullshitting for a few minutes
Starting point is 00:08:49 and then whatever. But we're just giving you updates. Yeah, and you're getting your popcorn if you don't want to listen to this part. But yeah, so, you know, but you've got, you know, the Ukraine prime minister or whatever the hell they call him, president. I guess maybe he's a president over there.
Starting point is 00:09:06 I mean, you got him saying, we're going to fight, we're going to do this, we're going to do that. And we're a free country, even though they're not free, but they're going to be, there are probably more free than Russia. But this guy's basically saying we're spreading propaganda because we're posting videos of Russia attacking Ukraine. And he's saying that they are responsible. Well, guess what?
Starting point is 00:09:24 There are countries around the world that are starting to blame the United States for instigating this incident. Not saying that's true. Don't know. I'm just saying that, you know, we've basically given our game plans day in and day out to Russia as far as hey guys and he reminded them today. We're not going to
Starting point is 00:09:42 interfere. This is our cards and we're going to show them to you. This is what we're going to do and this is what we're not going to do. You know, and we talked about this a whole lot more last night about the way we went about it and the timing
Starting point is 00:09:58 and, you know, all that influences it. Yeah. I think if things were done different, different timing, different circumstances, whatever, yeah. It'll be way different, I think, right now. And by the way, one last thing I'm going to say about this, there is some sources out there that are talking about.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Okay, so the general consensus, and by the way, if you guys are listened to us and have listened to us for any amount of time, you would know that general consensus is usually bullshit. Like the general consensus of what everybody is supposed to think is this, right? And most people that listen to us know that a lot of that's bullshit. So the general consensus, though, is that the Russia is invading Ukraine because of the fact that they could join NATO, which, by the way, the reason why people say America is instigating it is because they're instigating the Ukraine to join NATO. And so a lot of people are encouraging them.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Yeah. And so a lot of people have said, why did the United States not come out and say Ukraine's not going to join NATO? Don't worry about it. You guys stand down. Ukraine will be the same way they've been. And everything will be the same. Now that's one scenario. If that is the case, the United States didn't do their job there.
Starting point is 00:11:10 They didn't say, we're not going to push them to join NATO, right? I mean, and so it was just like a kind of back and forth because we didn't have any leadership in the United States, the only free country, the police of the world. We had no leadership to say, if you do this, we're going to do this, blah, blah, blah. And so in turn, you know, it kind of got off, got out of hand. And then, you know, Biden issued some bullshit sanctions, which, by the way, he came out today knowing that this is a full-scale, all-out attack on the Ukraine. And everything he announced today was what he already announced as far as what sanctions that he was already going to do.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Right, but he's going to already do. But the one thing that countries around the world are saying that you need to the, you have to take them out of this banking system, the international banking system. I can't think of the word right now, because we're not doing this podcast. But you've got to take him out of this banking system. And of course, Biden didn't do it. They also asked Biden, you can sanction Putin himself. And so he's like, yeah, I know. No, he actually said, we could even sanction Putin himself.
Starting point is 00:12:16 And there were reporters that said, well, why are you not doing this? Why are you not doing it today? Why, why the holdup? Why is it not important now? He's like, no, we're not doing that. And our sanctions, we'll wait a month or two and see how they go. His answer is, we're going to wait a month or two. Well, what's going to be happening in a month or two?
Starting point is 00:12:34 Ukraine will be taken over completely. Like last night, 40 people, like, they really started last night in Vegas. I think there's a lot more people who was dead. Yeah, they, well, it was 40 last night. But Ukraine's hold the ground, though. Because I heard it in the middle of the night. I was like, oh, they did it. They've down some, Ukraine is down some helicopters in Russia.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Like 17 or something. Yeah, they've down some. Now, from the aviation pilot perspective, right? they the only the only Antonov a n24 airplane the only last one that's in the world by the way that plane is the largest airplane in the world there is no plane bigger and in aviation it is the holy grail of airplanes because it is the biggest airplane in the world there's nothing bigger nothing ever built bigger there's only one of them left and it's in ukraine and so russia attacked that place where that plane is oh that
Starting point is 00:13:29 international airport. I don't know if it was the international airport. I think it was somewhere else. But the chief pilot officially, I guess, has come out and said it was not hit as of right now. But that's the only plane left of that airplane. And before we get into my new news about it real quick, I just want you to mention, ouch, I just popped many what you were just mentioning before. I just lost my intran of thought.
Starting point is 00:13:55 I want you to mention what I completely forgot about. How the hell am I supposed to mention? I'm not a mind reader. Bang. I just lost it. Well, anyways, I'll just talk about what. Okay, so it is now known that they've took over a place in Ukraine called sinnable or something. Sinable.
Starting point is 00:14:17 So they're all, they've already took over parts of Ukraine. Babe, don't even say the word because that's not the word. I'm never sure. But yeah, it's something, yeah. No, no, no, no. They've taken over many. They've actually flew the Russian flag in many. parts of cities.
Starting point is 00:14:31 They've went to the tops of these buildings where the Ukraine flag was. They replaced that flag with the Russian flag. Right. But they have not taken over. It was the sovereign places yesterday. Yeah, of course they did that. But today is a real place that's Ukraine. No, no.
Starting point is 00:14:44 They're attacking. I just saw that. I know, but they're attacking cities across. Oh, yeah. It's all over. Oh, that was what it was. I was talking about the red areas and what one conspiracy theory that you are reading up on. was about.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Yeah, so look, the last thing we're going to say about this before we can move on to the Havana thing is one of the conspiracy theories on this and not even, I don't know, I mean, it could be true, but, you know, Russia has bitched the United States for the past five to ten years that they did not want bio-weapons labs in Ukraine so close to their border. And so from what sources are saying that United States funds and possibly could be a part of, I guess, things in Ukraine, bio-weapon labs, that they either. or contribute to or possibly have something. I don't know if this is true. I don't know. I have not. These are just sources that are coming out right now. And it is kind of strange because if we look at the bio-weapons lab map, it's very similar to where they're attacking everything.
Starting point is 00:15:44 And then there was a report today that they did attack a lab, Russia. And so, but contrary to that, the only reason I would say maybe that's not the case is because I would think Russia, Putin would come out and like flat-out say, we don't want bio-weapons labs next to our board. border and this is why we're attacking. But has he really even come out and said anything why he's attacking? Is it all, does he say it's a little?
Starting point is 00:16:05 No, he hasn't really even said that either. I mean, do we even really know why he's doing this? No, we don't really know. No, I mean, he hasn't really said it. I mean, there's a reason for that. My opinion he's doing this is because he knows he can get away with it right now. And because he's doing this, guess what? China is now having aircrafts in no-
Starting point is 00:16:25 No-fly zones over Taiwan. Taiwan, Taiwan. Taiwan. Yeah, there's 19 aircraft that was in Taiwan airspace. Today. Yeah. They're next. It'll be the next thing because, I mean, look, when you got a weak-ass, bitch-ass president like the United States has right now, you know ain't nobody going to get involved in anything because the United States is essentially over NATO. And NATO is the biggest worrisome thing of any large country.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Like, especially communist countries. Well, yeah. But that's the whole reason. Like, United States is big, right? And if you look at United States versus China and Russia and the big countries, United States would probably win out wars against either of them, you know, in a war without nukes. But not necessarily militarily or ground wars, but then you have NATO, which, you know, encompasses many countries. And that's the whole, there's really the whole reason NATO was created was because they knew that we had adversaries that were huge that could screw over the only remaining, quote unquote, free country there is.
Starting point is 00:17:27 So anyways. So that's all we got to say. That's all we got to say about the Russia-Ukraine thing. Let's move on to the Hibvanus subject. But I just want to say I am praying for everyone. You know, my heart goes out to everyone that is experiencing that. Like, I just, I hate that that's going on. I really do.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Yeah. And by the way, you know, when I talk about the Russia-Ukraine thing, I'm not talking about it as in a sense of I sympathize with Russia or any of that. I want to make that clear. I'm just saying that, you know, we have to look at it. all sides. And I think that's one thing we always have to look at. And by the way, regardless of all sides, you see
Starting point is 00:18:03 some of these videos coming in and all that. These are citizens. These are people that have nothing to do with anything. There are protests all around the world. Even in Russia. Yeah. That are protesting this war. And these people don't deserve it. And I don't give a damn what the, I don't care what Putin's
Starting point is 00:18:19 in the wrong here. And regardless of Ukraine's government, whether they're good to their people or not, it doesn't matter. And by the way, if Ukraine's government is piece shit, you know, whatever. Maybe they'll be taken out before the people will. But either way, I just don't want the people to be taken out. And there's a lot of good people there's a lot of innocent people.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Yeah, and there's a lot of people that say, like, if you go to Ukraine and stuff like that, they're the nicest, coolest people you'll ever meet. And that's a very sad thing they're having to go through. And it's just like if we had to go through that in U.S. or Canada. I mean, and so that's... Or anywhere around the world. So that's the only reason... the, you know, the hot topic of like, what would I do as a president?
Starting point is 00:19:01 Like, would I intervene or would I not? I would have to in some way. And I would have to more than we're doing now. I mean, I know there's a big debate on that. But I can't just let those people be screwed. And by the way, if I was president, I would probably intervene more than maybe we do in some cases to protect people. Well, they're saying, based on the government. This has nothing to do with America or whatever.
Starting point is 00:19:24 But it really does. Well, it does. I mean, it does financially because this whole oil situation, the gas and all that, that's going to affect Americans to begin with. But besides that, this is human life. Right. This is something we're supposed to be protecting. Exactly. And I'm just saying, if I was president, I would have not ever let it get to this far.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Yeah, you're right. You should have started way before now. Yes. All right. So Havana syndrome, guys, this is going to be a very hot topic. And we're going to try not to tell. I mean, we're already 19 minutes in, Dan. We've had 19 minutes of shit.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Don't even have to do with this podcast, but whatever. Havana syndrome. Havana syndrome is an alleged set of medical symptoms with unknown causes experienced mostly abroad by U.S. government officials and military personnel. So these symptoms usually range in severity from pain and ringing in the ears to cognitive difficulties. And they were first reported in 2016 by U.S. and Canadian Embassy staff in Havana, Cuba. So beginning in 2017, more people including U.S. intelligence and military personnel and their families reported having these symptoms in other places, such as China, New Delhi, India, Europe, and Washington, D.C. The cause and validity of the illness has yet to be determined. This is based on Wikipedia.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Now, we're going to get at something in probably 20 minutes, and I want you guys to remember this particular line of what I just read that talks about military personnel and their families, okay? I want you to remember that. Because that's important. Military personnel and their families.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Okay? Because I think this one line, and this is based on Wikipedia and government information, this one line, I think, differentiates everything we're going to talk about. Yeah, I agree. I know exactly where you're going with that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:23 So what is Havana syndrome? Well, the U.S. Department of State has referred to events as unexplained health incidents, while the CIA, William Byrne, has publicly called them attacks. So there was a 2019 retrospective neuroimogen study of 40 affected diplomats in Cuba, published in the medical journal of JAMA, found evidence that diplomats had significant brain neuroimogen differences compared to healthy control group members, but it was not able to determine the cause of the observed differences and the states that the clinical importance of these differences
Starting point is 00:22:00 is uncertain and may require further study. While there is no expert consensus on the syndrome cause, an expert committee of the National Academic of Sciences, engineering and medicine concluded in December 2020 that microwave energy, specifically directed pulse RF energy, appears to be the most plausible, mechanism in explaining these causes and cases among those that the committee considered
Starting point is 00:22:28 but that each possible cause remains speculative. So they don't know for sure, but that's what they're speculating. The National Academic of Sciences and Engineering of Medicine says that they believe over anything that is microwave energy. Now, the reason that's also important that the National Academic of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine says this. This is a huge research group. Yeah, well, yes.
Starting point is 00:22:52 It's one of the top. So is JAMA. Yeah, and this is in Wikipedia. And JAMA is one of the biggest medical journals there are. But there are articles that have been media pushed, that have been government pushed, because if we know, we should know by now, that media articles, especially mainstream media,
Starting point is 00:23:13 they push articles based on what their narrative, they want you to believe the narrative. Yeah. So as of the past six to eight months, there has been articles being pushed by the same bullshit media that push articles such as Russia hoax with Trump. They push articles based on the January 6th insurrectionists. These same media sources will push articles that talk about how truckers in Canada are terrorists and white supremacists. And they're white nationalists and they want to overthrow the government. these same media sources have now come out and started pushing a narrative around this, the Havana syndrome.
Starting point is 00:23:56 They are pushing narratives. They have brought on three or four random-ass doctors, by the way. I read this today. It reminds me a lot of Joe Rogan, actually. It reminds me of the Gerrogan thing when they brought on 200 medical experts, doctors, when most of them weren't even medical experts. Yeah, they're like dead-ins and veterinarians. Cancelling them?
Starting point is 00:24:16 But listen, this was their first attempt to cancel them. And so this reminds me a lot of that because now these same media outlets that also say that if you are a Trump supporter or you believe in freedom or you believe in human rights, you are an insurrectionist, a terrorist. Or if you believe, or if you say anything against a narrative, you're a misinformationist terrorist. So these same media sources have come out and they brought three or four little bullshit-ass doctors with them. and they said this is all in the mind. This is all in your mind. It's bullshit. That's literally what they're pushing now.
Starting point is 00:24:51 This is all bullshit. So the funny thing about this is that this is went across administrations. This is not just, you know, this happened in Trump administration. It also happened. Well, it actually started happening, I believe, in the Trump administration. But there were reports that happened in the Obama administration and before. But they don't want to connect those occurrences. with when it officially quote unquote
Starting point is 00:25:16 started happening under Trump, but we will connect that in the minute of how these are actually connected. So their official narrative is that the Havana syndrome started in, or five years ago, and it has affected 130 people. But in reality,
Starting point is 00:25:33 what we're going to get to in a minute, it shows that it was going on longer than that. And yet they just wanted to discard that because it was connected with something they didn't want to connect it with as bullshit. So now that this is happening on a scale to where there's no way you can avoid the media on this, especially when it's CIA agents, U.S. spies, diplomats, and others, you have no
Starting point is 00:26:02 way to disconnect this because these people, which are highly important, prominent people in the government, are coming forward and saying, no, you're going to talk about what happened to me. Yeah, exactly. Because they feel like it is a. foreign adversary. Or maybe a terrorist operation, a domestic terrorist operation. Oh, a domestic terrorist.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Maybe it's domestic terrorists that are the elite. Who knows? Yeah. Well, yeah, you don't know. So that's where we're at. So what does the Havana syndrome essentially do? Like, what is it? So the Havana syndrome, it is
Starting point is 00:26:41 affected 130 people on record since September of 2021, but now we know it's affected more. And it's basically been causing brain impairments in spies, diplomats, military, and other U.S. employees stationed abroad. And not just abroad, this has happened to the United States as well. And something that all these articles leave out, by the way, is what's happened to some of our pilots, but we're going to get to that. So cases from Europe and other regions of Asia are also.
Starting point is 00:27:11 also included in the new cases. Havana's syndrome is a collection of medical signs and symptoms recorded by the U.S. and Canadian emacy since 2016, they say. The considerable barrier to their work and normal function of their lives are hampered to the point of their cognitive abilities and everything that they can function neurology. What was it, neurological? Yeah, neurologically. So it's things that cause them neurological symptoms.
Starting point is 00:27:44 And this can go from dizziness, severe headache, progress to nausea, fatigue, sleep issues, hearing loss, insomnia, and even memory loss. God, it sounds like me. Some people who have experienced Havana syndrome have also described hearing a loud, piercing sound, and feeling great pressure on their face. Tonight is ear pain, vertigo, brain fog, loss of balance, and muscle control are also some of the after effects that were observed in the last three to four years. And this is beyond the actual initial attack.
Starting point is 00:28:17 While the symptoms are gone for some of the affected people that were affected by this, some of the symptoms went away. There are others that have lingered and posed a severe impediment to their either employment or normal function of their everyday life. So some people, it went away. Some people, it didn't. And actually, there are reports that some people have died from this. I mean, there are reports from doctors.
Starting point is 00:28:47 From hemorrhaging or what? No, no. They were so fucked brain-wise. It was almost like, too much brain damage. A vegetable state. Too much brain damage. Wow. So then there was also a visit to China in 2018.
Starting point is 00:29:04 A U.S. envoy complained about hearing the same Pearson. sound in 2018, a Canadian officer reported having peculiar health symptoms, and when tested, it was discovered that the individual had suffered from brain damage, but no information could be extracted to determine why the brain damage occurred in the first place. And a 2019 academic study in the United States discovered that the guys who were unwell had brain abnormalities. Now, the one of the things that, when I started, when I was researching all this shit, And, you know, I'm reading right now to you guys what these articles say the official narrative is.
Starting point is 00:29:43 And so when you have mainstream media publishing things like this, it sounds like sci-fi, right? I mean, if you look at like 2021, think about this, everyone. You look at 2021, you would think this shit is a sci-fi book. You've got a global pandemic, which was more than likely created by a mad scientist and a conspiracy to create global unrest and, death and suffering. And then you look at UFO reports. You look at this Havana syndrome where people are targeting people's brains with waves of some kind of crazy direct energy weapon. Now you got the rush of Ukraine war.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Like, this shit just happened. You're about to have, you're about to have an invasion of Taiwan. Because trust me, that's going to happen too. We're going to have another podcast on that, probably in the next couple weeks. This shit sounds like sci-fi. But the reality is that the National Academic of Science and Engineering of Medicine they released a report in December of 2020
Starting point is 00:30:51 on the findings and they said that the possibilities to explain the symptoms of the Havana syndrome, they investigated symptoms of approximately 40 government personnel and listed below symptoms. So they said it was either from chemical, infection, or psychological factors, or microwave energy. And so all 40 of these people pretty much had the, yeah, just the 40, they researched.
Starting point is 00:31:18 And they all, so they brought this group that all had the same symptoms. They're kind of from the same work. So they investigated them to figure out what the hell is going on with them. Because how would you even know if you're just like, oh, come into the doctor's office and we're going to examine you. Oh, you've been hit by the, you know. because they knew because of what happened to them. And I guess they were governor officials. They had heard about this before.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Then they went to the doctor. And that's that main point, though. It's geared towards certain people. Yeah. Yeah, it is. And so this whole thing has been unexplained, but a new, what they call conspiracy theory, has been raised that it could be a weapon of war. This is a conspiracy theory.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Well, we know it's something. I mean, you know, the one of the, the one of the, One of the top science and engineering firm and medical organizations, the top that has the best scientists that study weird shit like this, right? They said that it was more than likely a microwave energy. Okay? So in the same article, they're talking about this is a conspiracy theory, that it could be a weapon of war. Well, look, if it is a human being doing this, then it would be a weapon of war. Now, Donald Trump in 2017 said that he believed it was Cuba is responsible.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Which makes me very... Yeah, but... The hit. Yeah, but... Yeah, but... Havana syndrome. Yeah, exactly. But, you know...
Starting point is 00:32:54 Because that's where it first started. And, like, I hate to say it to you to you Trump supporters, which, by the way, I'm more Trump supporter than I am freaking anybody else lately. But what I am saying is, I hate to say to all the Trump supporters. Trump supporters. It reminds me eerily of when someone blames Cuba for shit, you've got to look back at yourself. Kennedy.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Yeah. Yeah. I've rushed in Northwoods. And it's like, who do we blame? Because this is fucked up and we don't know what it is. Yeah. So let's blame Cuba. And we're going to name it the Havana syndrome.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Yeah. So one of the things that we, one of the things that Sherry shared with me last night when we, last night on the podcast after the Russia-Ukraine episode. After the episode, we were talking about, you know, we were going to do this podcast tonight. And I said to Sherry, I said, you know, it's strange because of this whole thing. And I was like, I think we need to do this. And it is, and by the way, microwaves are radiation. That is what it is. It is a radiation wave. So if you ever, if you guys ever remember someone saying not to stand too close to the microwave,
Starting point is 00:34:02 Well, where that actually came from was the fact that back in 10 years ago, even probably, but more so 15 to 20 years ago. And especially when microwaves first came out, microwaves were known back then to have a radiation leak. They didn't have the technology they do now to where if you stand next to a microwave now, according to scientist, quote unquote, even though shit. I hate to even say scientists now. I know.
Starting point is 00:34:34 I know. But it's, but. I don't know, Chad, because we even did that radiation like scanner. Yeah, that is true. Yeah. On our microwave. And it spiked. That is true, actually.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Damn, you make a freaking another great point, babe. Okay. So, so Sherry, I think, just proved me just now. But what I was going to say, let me, let me say what I was going to say. And then we'll say what you're saying. What I was going to say is I think we have technology now that can block those waves from microwaves in comparison to what we used to have, but Sherry makes a good point. So when all the alien
Starting point is 00:35:07 shit and all these things were coming out, and when we had our sighting, we got a Geiger counter. And a Geiger counter essentially just shows radiation. And so it'll detect radiation. It'll detect those waves and it'll spike. It's just like a graph. Or you can do it in different things, but you can do like a, there's different variations of how you can see spikes. You can do it in a number. variation. You can do it in a graph, like a bar graph, all that. And so we just wanted to make sure that this Geiger counter, radiation counter, actually worked. And so we're like, well, the only thing we know to see if this works is our microwave. So we, and this is actually a brand new microwave. I think when we had this. I'm not sure. It doesn't matter. But it was during the summer and you're like,
Starting point is 00:35:53 let's turn it on and close the door. We just put the Geiger counter near it and it spiked like crazy, which means it was getting intense levels of radiation. So maybe I'm wrong. So and actually also, by the way, Shary mentioned something on the first part of this podcast that, well, not the first part. It was the part, you all didn't hear. Yeah, the deleted part.
Starting point is 00:36:20 But Sherry mentioned something else that about cell phones. You know, people have always accused cell phones of possibly causing brain cancer due to radiation and waves. And then on the last podcast, and I'm just thinking better clearly now, last podcast I was like, well, there's supposedly been proof that that doesn't happen. It doesn't cause cancer. There's not enough signal to actually cause harm to you. But do you remember when we put the Geiger counter and that's a cell phone and it spiked like crazy? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:50 That's a signal. That is a microwave. Exactly. So who the fuck is lying? Because, and by the way, the cell phone. almost caused more than the microwave signal than the microwave. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:05 You remember? Because we went, I swear to God, guys, we went around the house and we just like tested different areas. We did various things. TVs, everything. TV's even admitted some signal.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Not as much, but you know, but, but yeah, cell phones and the microwave and stuff like that, huge. Wi-Fi. Actually, I tested the Wi-Fi up here.
Starting point is 00:37:24 It was another big spike. But the night we had our UFO encounter that was going on way the hell up. there, the car alarms went off and shit. I know that sounds nuts, but y'all go listen. But they really did. Go listen.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Go listen to our UFO encounter podcast. The night we had that, we had the Geiger counter. The only reason we had that was because we started seeing this shit for three or four days before that night. And we got this because, you know, we kind of knew about the radiation thing. And that night, our Geiger counter was going through the roof. And so. And that's what led me to believe this whole encounter that we're having or, you know, important people. are having these Havana, whatever's.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Yeah. Could be, you know, it says spike in radiation, right? It is, yeah, it is. Well, what causes radiation? All right, so. So, just think about it for a minute. So you make a good point. Well, we've talked about on other podcasts that, number one, we've talked about Bob
Starting point is 00:38:25 Bazar, we've talked about UFOs, and listen. Oh, sorry, this is saying, This is talking, and I did not mean to make this talk right now. But anyways, we've talked on other episodes about Bob Lazar, and we've talked about actually as recently as either a last podcast or one before that, about if Bob Lazar is right about UFOs, and he is right in the terms of, he said the reason why UFOs make light based on his experiences at Area 51 as a propulsionist astrophysicist.
Starting point is 00:39:03 It makes light based on radiation reaction because he believes that UFOs are powered by it's on gravity field, which then in turn reacts with our gravity field, which allows it to go supersonic speeds without affecting the being inside of the craft because if you're creating your own gravity field, you affect your own gravity, okay?
Starting point is 00:39:29 And we've talked about this before. We're not going to go deeper in this. But what I'm saying is the reason why we could not have a craft that disappears to the point of it's going so fast that it disappears is because we don't have a way to manipulate our gravity. Our pilot would be dead. Yeah, we've never. Even if it wasn't a pilot, our craft would completely break up. Yeah, it would disintegrate. Which they did.
Starting point is 00:39:51 They did have different materials, I think, too. Oh, yeah, they did, but we don't. And the thing is, is that even the space shuttle program, look how many. space shuttles we've lost because of reentry and or even, I mean, you know, they burn up because it's a very hard thing to, and the reason for that is because we are interacting with our gravity. Right. We're not creating, if we had a space shuttle that re-entered Earth's atmosphere with its own gravity field, we would have no issues.
Starting point is 00:40:19 It would just be like slicing butter with a hot knife. But instead, it's like the opposite of that. I mean, it really is. It's like I don't know what the damn comparison is But we'll move on for that But I just feel like radiation has a like a big role Well the radiation has a role in the UFO thing
Starting point is 00:40:38 If you believe the UFO thing Which we're about to get in that And I 100% believe UFOs are here And I believe they are from another planet I don't believe even they're from our future I believe they are from another advanced civilization Somewhere else And I believe they have figured out a way
Starting point is 00:40:55 To create their own gravity field around their craft and by the way, this all matters about what we're about to talk about with Havana's syndrome. And so Bob Lazard and other scientists and astrophysicist and physicists have said that if you have a craft, for example, that can create its on gravity field, and there were even scientists that said, if they may not have believed Bob Lazar or not, they were just stating on straight physics, if you had a craft that created us on gravity field, that interacted with, gravity it would create it number one it would create intense radiation because of the interaction between
Starting point is 00:41:33 particles of our gravity and theirs and then also it would also not affect anything that has to do with the craft itself or the people inside the craft right because their gravity field is moving based on the speed of our
Starting point is 00:41:49 gravity it's like an orbit around their craft kind of it's almost like this is the weird thing to think about it's almost like they are sitting still in their spacecraft. This was explained by a scientist one time, and he said, if you have an alien spacecraft that essentially creates their own gravity field, that interacts with ours, right? Then you would have the technology to be able to interact and maneuver, not the craft itself,
Starting point is 00:42:14 but you would have the maneuverability of the gravity versus gravity. But yet what happens inside of that gravity field around the craft never changes. It's almost like you're sitting still, even if you're going to speed of light. Well, it's kind of like when you're in an airplane. You don't feel the speed. Well, you do feel it more. Yeah, you don't, yeah. But you don't feel the speed of how fast do airplanes go, what, 500 miles an hour?
Starting point is 00:42:40 Yeah, about 5 or 600 or 600. I mean, like commercial. You don't, but if you are in a car going 500, you could never go 500 miles an hour. Because even when we. Well, you could. Well, I'm just saying when we've got 100 miles an hour in our car, I can feel the, the price. pressure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:58 But when you're in a plane, you don't feel that pressure. So it's kind of the same thing, too. All right. So I don't know why I just did this again. Okay. So let's talk about the connection here. Because it is a big connection, I think. And Sherry's the one that brought up to me to, well, she referenced Skinwalker Ranch.
Starting point is 00:43:20 We'll just go ahead and say it. And we're not going to get into Skinwalker Ranch yet. We're going to let this doctor talk about. real experience like legitimate real experiences and then we're going to talk about what he's talking about and then we're going to get on the skin walk around because I think that's the to me I think that's the bombshell um so when I said earlier in the Wikipedia documentation about how this Havana syndrome affected not only the military personnel it made sure to say the military personnel and their families.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Okay? And their families. Now, I looked into this a little bit because I was like, well, maybe their families were with them when they were attacked by this. Yeah, that's what I would think. Okay. But they weren't. Most of these military personnel were from pilots. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:11 And when they experienced this issue that they had, it was during the time they were on a sortie. And what a sortie means, a sortie is a training operation or a, you know, a, you know, in flight. Yeah. So it's essentially like if you have eight F-18s and you get scrambled. As a fighter pilot, you may be in bed at 2 o'clock in the morning. And you may get scrambled, they call it, to where your alarms go off. You have to be up and in and up and out and in your airplane within like three minutes and taken off within like five.
Starting point is 00:44:47 And your entire squadron has to be that you practice this all the time. and the Navy Marine Corps Air Force and all of them practice this on a regular basis. And they do it to where you were out of your bed and in your plane and taken off in then five minutes. Oh my God. Yeah. I can't even wake up and get out of my own bed in five minutes. But this is a very important thing because of, you know, a national emergency. Like, say Russia invaded us.
Starting point is 00:45:13 You have to have your aircraft in the air defending your country. And so a lot of these sortie pilots, they would go on these sorties. And a lot of the sorters take place over water. And the reason that they take place over water is because a lot of our foreign adversaries that would be attacking us come from the water. So whether it be Russia, China, any of those, Pacific Ocean, Atlantic Ocean, we don't have as many issues. But most of the sorters take place in the Pacific Ocean. Because if we have a foreign adversary who's going to attack us that is our enemies, it's going to come from Pacific. It's going to come from there.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Yeah. I hate to tell you, California people. Yeah, I'm sorry, California. California. Especially anyone's listening to us anyway. But so anyways, there's this doctor that decided to look at these cases of Havana syndrome. And he is one of the top doctors and neurologists and all that in the world.
Starting point is 00:46:06 And he tests brain of people who say they have had Havana syndrome. But he also went a step further because him and his team said, well, it's very strange because a lot of these pilots, military pilots, and what Wikipedia and mainstream media doesn't tell you about military personnel, the military personnel they're talking about are pilots. These are not military personnel on bases. These are military personnel as pilots.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Wow. Now, this doesn't tell you this in Wikipedia. Right. It just says military. Yes. And their families. But then I looked in this and I was like, oh, he's talking about, they're talking about military.
Starting point is 00:46:50 your personnel as in pilots, fighter pilots. So you gain that information by looking into it. That's crazy. So the thing about the fighter pilots, though, is that these fighter pilots only experience what is known as Havana syndrome during what they call a UFO encounter. Oh, M.G. Are you kidding me? No.
Starting point is 00:47:13 So these Havana syndromes, the exact same symptoms that these spies and diplomats have got around the world, whether it be in Cuba. They were pilots? No, no. Listen to me, Sherry. Okay. I'm lost. The diplomats and the spies and the CIA agents that have got Havana
Starting point is 00:47:27 syndrome that have been deployed in different places and even in Washington, D.C., they have had the symptoms the same as the military pilots that have encountered UFOs. Okay? He went a step further, though. He brought in people that said they had encounters with aliens or with UFOs, for example. He tried to bring in as many people that had the most, I guess, credible encounter with UFOs and then also tested their brain through MRI and Imogen scans. So this is what he says. And then we're going to talk about what the depth of, this is a short video, but listen, here it is.
Starting point is 00:48:10 We noticed a area of the brain that seemed to be disturbed, let's say, are different in many of these individuals. So it's an area that I've talked about before between the head of the cardiac and epitamin that it increased neural density. And it was larger in all these individuals. And so you asked the question, okay, what's unique about these individuals? Well, they're all highly functioning. And you have to make snap decisions. And so what is that?
Starting point is 00:48:41 That's intuition. One way to explain it would be intuition or just highly intelligent. And then surprisingly, when we looked in the family members, we found that the family members had it, which was fascinating. So that means that structure had a genetic component, whatever it was. Okay, so this is the doctor, like, you know, talking about. But they're saying a genetic component. That's way different than a family member.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Genetic, no, no, no. It's not what he's saying. He was saying genetic component as far as they're all smart. They make snap decisions. These people are able to rationalize and have a high IQ and all that. stuff. And so he was talking about pilots on this and also CIA agents. Okay, so it's not exactly their family members. No, no, no, no. But no, no, he said family members. They also had family members that also had this
Starting point is 00:49:35 similarly. And what they found was a, and by the way, this is a professor doctor. He's been testing brains of people who say they've been experienced Havana syndrome and or UFO encounter. And these are the symptoms they display. So Dr. Gary Nolan, he's a Professor of Pathology at Stanford University, who has published more than 300 research articles and holds 40 U.S. patents, has spent the last decade analyzing materials from alleged Havana Syndrome and Unidentified Aerial Phnomon or UAPs. So he's clumped it together like I did. Yes.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Wow. But he's done this on MRIs. He's done this on MRIs. Speaking to Vice Motherboards, Nolan opened up about his work and revealed what sparked his interest in UAPs. Nolan, who admitted to being an avid reader of science fiction, said his interest took flight when he reached out to a man named Stephen Greer, which we've talked about Stephen Greer on the podcast. He's another doctor who claimed a small skeleton was possibly an alien. Even though the alien, it wasn't actually an alien.
Starting point is 00:50:41 This doctor actually proved that it wasn't based on some kind of genome weird shit that used to happen way back in the day. So Nolan published a paper titled Whole Genome Sequencing. and it basically showed that what Stephen Greer thought could have been an alien was actually a novel mutation linked to what's called dysplasia. But his involvement with UAPs began after he was asked to use his blood analysis instrumentation to help with cases of pilots who were close to alleged UAPs and also had horrible brain damage. So keep in mind UAPs is Unidentified Aerophonomena or UFOs.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Yeah, I thought it was, yeah. So when asked if he could describe the more abnormal effects on the brains observed with the MRI, as Nolan said, if you ever looked in an MRI of somebody with multiple sclerosis, for example, there's something called white matter disease. And it's essentially scarring. So it's the same thing as if you looked at an MRI or a CAT scan of a lung that has had scarred in the lung. You're going to see a white spot. That's why this, that's why like if you're trying to diagnose lung cancer when somebody,
Starting point is 00:51:51 You got to see whether it's scarring or cancer. Scarring or it's cancer. Yeah. Which is like cells going out of control. So he said it's a big white blob or multiple white blobs scattered throughout the MRI. It's essentially dead tissue where the human system has attacked the brain. That's what multiple sclerosis actually is. He said that's probably the closest thing that you could come to if you wanted to look at a snapshot from one of these individuals.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Wow. You can pretty quickly see that there's something very wrong. And keep in mind, this is people that. have either experienced Havana syndrome. But more importantly, recently, he has done MRIs on these pilots that have had a UFO encounters. And I guess they're all at different, like, different extinct or what's a god? Never mind. Anyway, so approximately.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Different. I don't know. Approximately 100 patients, mostly defensive governmental personnel or people working in the aerospace industry were analyzed. So this was 100 patients. So symptoms of this studied some of the people from what Nolan called a smorgasbord of patients. You had patients with some of whom had weird noises buzzing in her head, got sick, etc., said. A reasonable subset of them had claimed to have seen UAPs, and some claimed to be close to things that got them sick. Ultimately, his team learned that people who they originally thought were damaged had an overconnection of neurons between the head
Starting point is 00:53:19 of the caught it and the Poudaman. The number of people that had this over-connection led to open question. Did coming into contact
Starting point is 00:53:28 with whatever it was cause it or not? Nolan said that approximately a quarter of the MRI patients who claimed they had an encounter who claimed
Starting point is 00:53:37 they had had an encounter with UAPs including military pilots had died from their injuries not long after he had seen them. Which is nuts. and by the way this is being reported by the sun
Starting point is 00:53:50 it's been reported by Daily Mail so and it sounds like a lot of these people that have had these encounters or this has happened to them it almost overreacts and that's what's causing
Starting point is 00:54:02 the issue yeah I you know yeah I'm gonna get at that in a second the majority were found to have symptoms identical to Havana syndrome okay so especially the pilots
Starting point is 00:54:13 that encountered UAP stuff but some people who had seen UAPs didn't have Havana syndrome and instead had a wide range of other symptoms, but they were still mostly neurological. So there was also a drawled, a
Starting point is 00:54:29 jaw drop in NASA report around this time that just essentially said that extraterrestrial life they believe does exist. And this is during the time that all these pilots are coming out and saying, we're having these UAP experiences, so on and so forth.
Starting point is 00:54:47 So then there was also something else that, you know, this was not long after this, the China Space Agency actually found a tiny hut on the moon and they dubbed it a mysterious house after spotting the cube on the far side of the lunar surface.
Starting point is 00:55:05 And so there are actual pictures of this. And it looks like a freaking little house on the moon. And so, yeah. And so China actually, I believe, has the closest imagery. Like drone
Starting point is 00:55:20 space drone or whatever. They sent this thing out like years ago. And it's been circling the moon for a while and it has imagery of some little hut thing. But anyways. That's crazy. Neither here nor there. But we've heard of things like that. Yeah, there's a lot of conspiracy bullshit.
Starting point is 00:55:37 You know, like structures on the moon and all that stuff. It's just really hard to believe. No, but China's, I mean, the most groundbreaking thing is China's actual craft and they released it and said, yeah. It's a hut. Here's the picture. Yeah, it's like a house-looking thing. I don't know what it is. But either way, let's get back to this.
Starting point is 00:55:56 So you have these military pilots that have been exposed to a UAP. They have either encountered a UAP or otherwise. And not long after that, they got similar symptoms to what Havana syndrome offers. Some of them had different symptoms, but the majority of them had Havana syndrome symptoms. So let's go to briefly the Skinwalker Ranch episodes. If you guys haven't watched Skinwalker Ranch at all, I encourage you to do so,
Starting point is 00:56:24 which, by the way, I want to go back and watch those. And I'm going to figure out where the hell we watched them out. You guys will have to look up where Skin Walker Ranch. It's probably Netflix. And we don't have that anymore, but. No, we still can watch it. But anyway, blink that out. But this is where my revelation came into progress.
Starting point is 00:56:44 So, yeah, last night, Sherry, after we were talking about the Havana syndrome and this whole deal, She was like, hey, do you remember what happened with Skinwalker Ranch with the radiation and whatever happened? So basically, and I'm not going to give away anything, you guys, deaths, you have to watch this. But Skin Walker Ranch is a group. Okay, Skin Walker Ranch has had the most sightings of UFOs and aerial phenomena pretty much of anywhere. Yeah, and this was a farm that normal farmers had before. And they sold it because they had to get rid of it.
Starting point is 00:57:14 They had to get out of there because it was just too crazy for them. They couldn't keep livestock. They kept dying. They didn't know why they were dying. They had investigations and everything else. They had incidents themselves. They got sick themselves. And they also had like things about like ghosts and spirits and all, everything.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Everything. And so Skinwalker Ranch basically has these scientists and doctors. They're legitimate scientists. These guys are legitimate. They're well-known scientists even that come to this ranch to investigate this to see if they can figure out anything that might have anything. to do with this. And, you know, this is a show that I think it was on Discovery originally, I believe.
Starting point is 00:57:53 I think it's a Discovery show or history or one of the show. But they go this, they go this ranch, and they are able to investigate this over the course of weeks and months. And some of the things that happen on this ranch are very, if you look up, just, if you connect Havana syndrome with radiation, which is what it is, this is what our, you know, top brass in the military and government are saying is they believe it is a microwave energy weapon but and it's a weapon yeah that's the main point is but a lot of a lot of what happens that skinwalker ranch revolves around radiation right now one of the things that someone said was okay and this is a very good point um if you have CIA agents that are in havana that are in all
Starting point is 00:58:47 these places. By the way, I don't know if you guys know this, but CIA agents, you're not just going to go find these dudes. You're not just going to go. Oh yeah. They're very secretive. We might have a CIA agent living down the street from us. Exactly. And you would never know. Yeah. So the point is, is that if you're going to have these CIA agents and diplomats and people that are highly secretive, just be attacked and then no trace of where this shit's coming from to a CIA agent. because I hate to say it, but like these CIA agents, they said that towards the end of all this, they started wearing this device that is like a,
Starting point is 00:59:27 actually we talked about this similarly on another podcast, like a necklace, but it was a radiation thing. No, no, we didn't talk about it, but the guy told us this, but it's actually interesting that. Yeah, because that kind of like, that's another connection. But this CIA agent,
Starting point is 00:59:41 that's crazy. This one CIA agent in this one particular instance, they had a device around their neck or somewhere. It was a necklace, I think. And so when it started happening, you started feeling weird, it was detecting that it was a radio radiation wave. And then they got this team to go behind them
Starting point is 00:59:59 to see if they could track down where it was coming from. And they tracked it to what appeared to be the freaking sky. This is a actual report from wherever. So it wasn't coming from a house down the road. It wasn't coming from wherever. They tracked this thing, this wave coming from the sky. And then their explanation this was, they could beam it out of some shit. I don't even know what they're explaining, but it didn't make sense to me.
Starting point is 01:00:28 So then you got Skinwalker Ranch that, you know, is a highly, you know, publicized thing. And one of the, like a couple of the guys on there had to go to the hospital because of the exact same symptoms of Havana. syndrome and when they pulled out their Geiger counters during this time and by the way they were having intense UFO sightings at night and this crazy shit happened yes yeah and he had to go to the hospital because he was dizzy he's about to throw up he couldn't cognitively understand what it was even going on they had to call EMS for him like the same exact symptoms as the Havana yeah and the original owners had the same shit going yeah and that's why they sold the farm because they couldn't deal with it and Dr. Travis I can't remember what his last name is but uh Travis you
Starting point is 01:01:16 You remember that guy. During one of these times that this happened, he went into a silo, which is a metal silo and it quit. Like he was experiencing the same symptoms, and he went into this metal silo thing, and it stopped. Like, he didn't have the symptoms anymore. So the reason that makes sense is because it's metal and it's going to deflect radiation. Yeah. And meanwhile, Chad didn't even, like, we have to tell about the part of the radiation. Like, this radiation is so intense that this is a farm with, like,
Starting point is 01:01:46 like live animals. And these animals are just like drop, you know, they'll just drop dead. All of a sudden, when these things appear. Yeah, and then they'll go put a Geiger counter on these animals, and they'll have high levels of radiation. Exactly. And also when that, when that one cow died, for example, they, the, it was either the day before or whatever, they had a, I mean, like, if you want to see a real UFO sighting on camera, and it's no bullshit. I mean, it's a literal, this is not a bullshit show. No, it's real.
Starting point is 01:02:16 This is real. Yeah, it's real. They had a sighting of a freaking craft or something that flew across the sky. And so it was the day after the cow died. Yeah. But so let's connect all these things. But okay, before we connect it, though, too, they've also had people dig underground at this ranch. And there's radiation there.
Starting point is 01:02:44 And there's. Well, they've had the, well, they had the underground radar. things too, where they would push it over and there was like some kind of large device there. But you know, I think kind of one of the things they were thinking of and I'm not going to give away. Yeah, but I want you guys to watch the show. Yeah, it's so good. But I think
Starting point is 01:02:59 this area is somewhat of a portal. Yeah, it's like a portal. Yeah. And that's what made me start thinking about like portals could really exist is through this show. Seriously. Well, yeah. I mean, they can. I mean, you've got to look at like what happens over the ocean. But man, these pilots have these
Starting point is 01:03:15 these instances of this Havana-type syndrome. I mean, it makes complete sense. Let's connect them real quick. Radiation. If Bob Lazar and anyone that knows how maybe these spacecrafts move, that's pretty much gravity fields, which then in turn creates radiation, is it the fact that,
Starting point is 01:03:36 but there's two sides of this. You know, if there's an intense, if there's a lot of activity of possible UFOs, like, say, skin walk a ranch, then you would think there's going to be radiation there anyway. But it seemed like with that particular instance of Skinner Warker Ranch, it was directed. Because there was seven people standing there. And it was the one dude.
Starting point is 01:03:57 And it was the one guy. And it had already happened to him before. Yeah. It was the one guy. It had happened to him before. And it was like a directed ready a wave. Yeah. Nobody else got that except for the one guy.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Well, there was someone else. Travis got it later on the show or whatever. But the one dude is the one that really experienced it. Yeah. And he had experienced. sit like six months before. Like they, I'm not going to get away.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Yeah, I think it was when he was there. I mean, he was there. Yeah. When it happened as well. So it's almost like it was a directed something towards that one guy. So yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:30 So this doctor also had brought in people that had the most credible UFO encounters. And he did their brains as well. And he saw the same shit. With their brains look different from normal people. Yeah. Like there was almost like a scarring
Starting point is 01:04:45 in their brain. Yeah, either a scarring or just a... He said there's a part of the brain. It's almost like a ball. That's like... I can't remember what the part of the brain is. But he said it's enlarged and it is not necessarily scarred, but it's enlarged and it can cause pressure and some other things
Starting point is 01:05:02 because it's not what your normal brain should be. Look, guys, I'm not saying this is the case, but we have to make the case because I'm just connecting the dots here. I mean, is it a foreign adversary? I don't know. Look, there is so many arguments to where this could be for an adversary. But damn it, you're talking about CIA agents in a lot of these cases. And by the way, what does UFOs like to do? They like to hover over military bases, nuclear power.
Starting point is 01:05:31 And so what else would they want to do? They wouldn't want to get our top operatives and our top brains. And, you know, it's similarly, and I know this sounds crazy, but we were talking about Ukraine and Russia, the hacking thing, right? and this is on a different scale, but think about this. When the media reports like a DDoS attack, which is what Russia is probably going to do to us soon, and this is what we're going to do to us, and they've already done to Ukraine.
Starting point is 01:05:55 Yeah. That on the surface, it just sounds like they're just attacking and shutting down a server based on packets overloading a server. But what you have to understand is that with any attack, it can either be completely offensive or it can be offensive and informative and information gathering.
Starting point is 01:06:12 And radio waves, we know, for example. Yeah. I mean, seriously. Radio waves we know, for example, can communicate back and forth. We know that cell phones, for example, can communicate information from one cell phone to another. And then when the cell phone returns information back to it, it returns it back. I think that's one of the best examples of microwave energy talking back and forth. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:06:35 That is a cell phone. So if you say that these people are having Havana syndrome, right? And it just feels like they're fucked because a lot of them do have brain damage. How much information is whatever that is gathering that, or whatever is penetrating that, are they getting back from that? Because I don't think if it is aliens, for example, or UFOs, they're not just going to fuck over people for no reason. They're probably gathering information that is in turn probably fucking these brains up a little bit. But I think they're communicating microwavably. Through the waves.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Yeah, because you guys have to remember, our brains are all electrons. Yeah, they're all electrons. They're electrons firing. Yeah. And in turn, it is a little. Yeah, it is electricity firing our brain. And if you can, and really, if you think about it, the best way that you can communicate or gather, like if you wanted to gather some kind of information off a brain, it'd probably be a microwave. I mean, it's kind of similarly to static electricity.
Starting point is 01:07:29 When we touch something to static, it is a electrocurrent, but it communicates and it gives you a little shock. Well, it communicates with our body. It does however that may mean. Right. And your brain says, oh, I got a shock. You got to move away from it. Yeah. Same thing is like touching a hot oven or anything.
Starting point is 01:07:46 But if you can penetrate a brain to where you have a device that can not only penetrate it, which would probably hurt the brain because the brain's not used to that, right? But if you can get that information back through microwave, which is you're just offloading that signal of that brain, we don't know what technology really holds in our future. But like you would have to think like if people already, like we know that we can have. Oh, we can do the audio stuff that misses people up. Yeah, the acoustic weapons, which like it can cause hemorrhgen if you're in a close spot or it can even make you kind of out of sorts.
Starting point is 01:08:24 Well, you were even talking about in the last podcast about the Travis Scott concert, for example. Yeah. Yeah, the weird sound waves that were going on before the concert during intermissions. It was making people freak out. Even dogs that hear shit we can't. There's a lot of things. and those are called acoustic attacks or acoustic weapons. But there's a huge difference in acoustic and microwaves.
Starting point is 01:08:49 And so I know that sounds out there, guys. I know, but it's really, it's true. These are two different ways that you can be attacked. But I think I make the best case. I think we make the best case for if this could be aliens, then we make the best case. Yeah. Because what I'm saying is the last thing I'll see is that these are CIA agents. So if someone is doing this, they are, they might as well just attack us because they already know every move that our top operatives are making.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Right. They know where they are. And you know how hard that would be to know? Unless it's someone inside her own government. Government. Yeah. But I doubt that. I don't think so either.
Starting point is 01:09:30 And it just is too coincidental that, you know, how we've talked about aliens so much and how radiation has to deal with all that so much. Yeah. Yeah. And the thing is, too, is like, we don't, we don't, you know, we communicate, like, say, for example, aliens are doing this. Let's just take this, for example. Aliens can't communicate with us the way we communicate. They can't, I mean, they could, maybe, but I don't know. We communicate through sound waves.
Starting point is 01:09:57 Sound waves. Which is a different thing than microwaves. Yeah, but, you know, yeah. And even if you look at like fire in the sky, instance, I can't remember what's damn name right now. But, but, Walton. Yeah. I can't remember his first name. But Walton, the guy that is one of the best cases for alien abduction ever.
Starting point is 01:10:19 If you watched a movie, watch a Joe Rogan podcast with him. You know, he said that when this happened, which, by the way, the guys that they were, the guys he was with that were working with, they weren't going to lie for him because some of them hated him. Yeah, they did not get along. And they were accusing these people of murder. Right. And they were like, dude, I'm telling you what happened. Like, this is what happened. And then Walton came back five days later and said his story.
Starting point is 01:10:46 And he was abducted. And he was abducted. But one of the things he said was, I was in this craft, which all of the other guys saw. There was like five guys. And he said, I was in this craft. And he said it was like they weren't, they didn't talk to each other. But I knew what they wanted for me. And it was telepathically.
Starting point is 01:11:05 They communicated in a different way than we did. and so if you which means they use different wavelengths than what we microwaves electric signals there are signals that we they're offloading information via signals but a lot of times
Starting point is 01:11:20 like we don't do it as much as probably but a lot of people are telepathic no a lot of people are not telepathic that's bullshit Chad I can know I can look at you that's just knowing me though babe that's not telepathic
Starting point is 01:11:35 I don't know that's knowing You're talking about an alien coming out and offloading information and what you're thinking. Yeah, I know that. But I'm just saying it's kind of like in the same. No, it's not. I think it is. Sorry. But I think it is.
Starting point is 01:11:49 No, no, no, no. Because that goes with like people that are psychic and people that can see more and hear more and do more or like can communicate with more. I get it. I mean, I'm not saying there's not people that know more or think more or feel more than others. What I'm saying is... No, I'm saying telepathic, like, psychics and stuff. Yeah, but I don't think aliens are psychic. I think it's...
Starting point is 01:12:12 But they're using the same brain waves or whatever. Maybe. That's possible, I guess, on a much stronger level. Exactly. I don't believe in what a... I do. Psychics, but... I do.
Starting point is 01:12:27 So, that's our theory. Yeah, and we're sticking to it. But look, I think we make the best case with that. I mean, no one's really, I mean, well, besides this professor and this team, they've made this connection. And the only reason you found them is because of my connection. Yeah, yeah, you're the one that, well, you're the one that said like, hey, think about this. And I was like, you're right. So yeah, that's your credit.
Starting point is 01:12:52 Thanks, babe. And then, so then I kind of started researching and I found shit that made sense and connected. I was like, okay, there's a professor and doctor in this team that's done the same thing. But it had nothing to do with Skinwalker Ranch. We mentioned Skinner Ranch. But then he talked about pilots that encountered UAPs. And I was like, holy shit. Even though he had no mention of Skinwalker Ranch.
Starting point is 01:13:16 That is strange. But it was still UAPs and aliens. Yeah, but we made the connection of... From a show we watched that, you know. Exactly. And then we actually saw what I would consider scientific evidence to a degree. I mean... Of this doctor, like examining people.
Starting point is 01:13:35 brains. Yeah, pilots, military pilots that have experienced U.S. But I still don't understand when he said, you said, keep this in your mind. The genetic thing. He was talking about, the genetic thing he was talking about was that he was talking about, that he was talking genetically was like a lot of these people genetically were smart that were, that experienced. Yeah, and that makes sense. Like, people, like.
Starting point is 01:14:02 They knew how to make quick decisions. they were very smart on their toes They probably use more of their minds than most people do But it's also probably why they were Targeted Or had that encounter And it goes back to psychics
Starting point is 01:14:17 Babe, I'm just telling you Maybe psychics use a lot more of their brains But also you got to think I know there's fake psychics But there really is real psychics But you got to think like If you're a UFO or alien or whatever And CIA, right
Starting point is 01:14:30 I mean you know You're looking after CIA agents And a lot of those guys are extremely smart. That's how they got in these CIA operative positions. It's the same reason that UFO sightings have been more prominent over nuclear bases. They want the best of the best information they can gather. And so, you know, and by the way. So they're going to try to use the smartest brains.
Starting point is 01:14:51 Yeah, smartest brains, the people that they feel like could be the threats to them. And it's not even the smartest brains. It's humans that use more of their brains, I think. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, I'm surprised I just I the whole thing Like this whole
Starting point is 01:15:10 I'm surprised that Elon Musk has not been He probably has been I mean he sounds a little weird Yeah I'm just saying he does He sounds a little strange But man this is crazy He might be half alien
Starting point is 01:15:24 Who knows But the Havana syndrome Guys what is it What is it not? I don't know But I definitely think it's target.
Starting point is 01:15:34 I mean, I don't know. I mean, it's just, I'm not saying for sure it's anything, but I think if you're going to make a connection, we did more than anything. Yeah. More than anybody could. Right. And we use all these, all these things because, I mean, I don't know. I mean, the CIA has admitted this as some kind of microwave energy.
Starting point is 01:15:54 They can't pinpoint anyone. And by the way, it's like, if you fart loud, the CIA is going to know that. Like, any more? seriously anymore is almost impossible to get away than anything anymore everything's listening there are ways that they can detect anything and everything and yet they have zero clue where the hell the shit's coming from except for the one of the sense it was coming from the sky is what they saw and yet they tried to blame it on some kind of directional
Starting point is 01:16:23 fucking whatever well i don't know if it was like an adversary let's just pretend it is it would come from the sky i don't think no no no it wouldn't Okay, if it's in a different country. We definitely don't have that technology. Chad, I'm just saying if it was like the same thing as like nuclear weapons. That's a weapon though. This is a radio wave. Yeah, it's still a weapon.
Starting point is 01:16:46 So you're going to angle a wave into a like, I don't know. I don't believe that. I don't know. And into one person? I don't know. You know how hard that should be? I mean, come on, man. Hell no.
Starting point is 01:16:58 I'm just saying. I don't believe that. I don't believe that. Who knows what technology people have? Well, they don't have that. I don't believe that, though. I don't believe that. But who knows?
Starting point is 01:17:09 Who knows? I think it's aliens. That's my final thought, and I'm sticking to it. Guys, we're sorry we didn't have old Scott Banks' podcast on tonight, but we're going to have them on soon. And go check its podcast out. It didn't work out tonight. But we hope you enjoyed our podcast, right, babe?
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Starting point is 01:17:38 Have a good night. And pray for Ukraine because they need it. The people of Ukraine. Well, pray for everyone, really. Yeah, but pray for Ukraine. Ukraine, Russians, everyone. Russian. Pray.
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