Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Havana Syndrome Conspiracy Podcast | Direct Energy Weapon? | Or Alien Technology
Episode Date: February 25, 2022What is really going on with Havana Syndrome and US Government officials falling ill due to a mysterious energy weapon that is causing brain damage to those affected. Could this be tied to alien techn...ology. We talk about how UFOs may be playing a role in this mystery, or if this could be another hostile country.
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Hello, hello, and welcomeated
We're all fish in our streets.
Swimming sorts of vicious trees.
Hello, hello, and welcome to Investigator podcast.
I'm your host, Chad, alongside my beautiful and sleepy, tired wife, even though she's not as tired now.
Yeah, I'm waking up.
This is part two of live.
Yeah, and what an awesome song.
We got to talk about it again.
Yeah, well, I didn't know what song I was actually going to play in the intro.
I saw this song.
I liked the song.
And it's talking about Walking Dead.
And it talks about getting in your brain.
And this is exactly what we're talking about tonight.
So that was perfect, babe.
It is.
Good job.
So listen.
So for those of you listen and that we're listening live, we do apologize.
Because we had a technical difficulty, which sometimes we have.
And we're supposed to have Scott Banks' podcast on this episode.
We're not going to have them on this episode, I don't believe, because it's kind of, we're having some issues.
The microwaves are, like, messing it out.
Yeah, so we're having some issues, but listen, we're going to get Scott Banks podcast on.
By the way, guys, I encourage you all to go listen to Scott Banks podcast on Spotify.
His link is on our Facebook page.
If you go to the Havana podcast post on our Facebook, you can find his link.
It'll say open Spotify.
Go check it out.
Go support him.
He's one of our listeners.
And we are going to bring him back for another episode.
very soon.
So, but we do.
We had some technical issues and I don't know who side it was on, but we're going to have to
just go with it from here.
So, guys, welcome, welcome to Thursday night to 2422.
We got one more day until Friday.
Thank God.
We are very thankful for that.
And just so you guys know, we've had to like redo one other podcast this week.
So we did a double header.
because it was deleted.
Oh yeah, it was deleted.
Yeah.
So we had to redo that one.
Yeah, yeah.
I was wondering what you're talking about.
But yeah.
One of our podcasts got deleted.
Yeah, so we had to do a double header.
So, yeah.
We did.
And now we're doing it again.
Yeah, and now we're doing it again.
But we have to come to you because we just have to.
I feel like, I don't know, almost bad if we don't do something.
I know.
Even on the weekends, though, I'm like, we should be talking.
Yeah, we should.
And not just talking, but being with our family.
All right, guys.
So let's just relax, man.
Look, you guys, we're going to give you, let's see, how long are we going to give you 30?
We'll talk about random bullshit for a minute.
You guys have one minute to go get popcorn, beer, drink, whatever you're going to drink.
And then you're going to come back and we're going to listen and enjoy this show because, listen, this is very important.
Listen, Linda.
And it is very, like, conspiratorial.
And this is something that is, like, out of the sci-fi series.
and but yet we're actually living it.
Yeah.
This is what's actually happening.
And if you guys want to play a game.
Havana syndrome.
So what's our game tonight?
What's the key words?
I have no idea.
If we don't get deleted or we don't start this over,
then you got to drink the entire bottle of whatever you're drinking.
Or no, sorry, if we do.
Not if we don't because then you're going to be screwed.
I think we're going to, I think we're going to do it this time.
Yeah, I think it's going to work.
But anyways, guys, welcome to the podcast.
Just sit back and relax.
And that's something to share now we're talking about last night,
which I got to mention what we talked about last night again
because we just did this and then now we're doing it again.
You know, we talked about last night.
We had the Russia Ukraine episode.
And by the way, I'm actually going to kick my feet up right here.
Because, like, I'm tired of, like, sitting up and just, like,
trying to be all whatever.
So last night, we talked about Russia, Ukraine.
and that's a very serious topic
and it is
and we also had someone on our Facebook page tonight
which I don't even, I shouldn't even be giving them attention
but we had someone on our Facebook page
that was like, you know, we were just posting videos
actually we had a couple people send us videos
from their experience in Ukraine
Yeah, these are people that live in Ukraine
Listen to us, yeah
And so they send us some videos of like the fighting on the streets
In their neighborhood.
In their neighborhood at their house
Yeah
Like at their actual house like that's scary
Could you imagine being in your own home and going outside and videoing and hearing like just gunfire everywhere around you and even people yelling?
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
No, it's crazy.
I mean, because people are so accustomed and comfortable with their surroundings.
And, you know, by the way, so is the Ukraine.
And the Ukraine has been a sovereign and independent country for 30 plus years now.
And so obviously, you know, anybody that's 30.
years old and younger has known, well, I'm not saying necessarily freedom,
but they've at least known sovereignty and away from Russia and all that stuff.
So, you know, just imagine being in the United States or being in Canada or being in Australia
or being in the UK or wherever.
And, you know, then one day some nuclear powerhouse country decides to invade you.
And which, by the way, their military is 10 times what yours is.
So even though they statistically,
don't have a chance in this war.
I am very admired by how the people and the...
I mean, I say admired, but damn it, I mean, they're going to have to fight.
You're admiring them.
Yeah, they're going to have to fight, and that's what sucks.
I mean, it does.
And it's going to cost...
But what would you do for your country, I guess, you know?
And that's the thing.
Like, if another country invades us, I'm going to fight.
You know, and they're going to have to fight.
And unfortunately, there's going to be a lot of people that probably die, and this sucks.
This is a shitty part of war.
It's a shitty part of...
any of that. And I think we've got so
almost desensitized or
through TV and video games and everything else. No, I'm not
blaming video games. I'm blaming Afghanistan.
I'm blaming Iraq because the U.S. media made us believe
that just because it's Iraq and Afghanistan and
those countries that they were nobody. Because
this is the people that supposedly attacked us. And so
it's okay if we go and kill whoever, right?
even though we have Geneva Convention and all of shit,
but I would love to know the number of civilians
that were lost in Afghanistan, Iraq.
I would love to know based on us.
I would also love to know based on civilians
on other wars that have been fought.
There are innocent people that are always, always,
always going to be targeted in the crosshairs of any war.
It doesn't matter what it is,
and that could have been you.
And so this guy that messages on Facebook night is like,
you're spreading propaganda.
Why? Because I'm posting videos of what's actually happening,
he believes that Ukraine is starting
the war. Ukraine didn't start shit.
You know, by the way, number one,
and by the way, guys,
we're going to get into the Havana situation
in a second. We're just bullshitting for a few minutes
and then whatever. But we're just giving
you updates. Yeah, and you're getting your popcorn if you don't
want to listen to this part.
But yeah, so, you know,
but you've got, you know, the Ukraine
prime minister
or whatever the hell they call him, president.
I guess maybe he's a president over there.
I mean, you got him saying,
we're going to fight, we're going to do this, we're going to do that.
And we're a free country, even though they're not free, but they're going to be,
there are probably more free than Russia.
But this guy's basically saying we're spreading propaganda because we're posting videos of Russia
attacking Ukraine.
And he's saying that they are responsible.
Well, guess what?
There are countries around the world that are starting to blame the United States for instigating
this incident.
Not saying that's true.
Don't know.
I'm just saying that, you know, we've basically given our game plans day in and day out to
Russia as far as
hey guys and he
reminded them today. We're not going to
interfere. This is our cards
and we're going to show them to you.
This is what we're going to do and this is what we're not
going to do.
You know, and we talked about this a whole
lot more last night about
the way we
went about it and the timing
and, you know, all that influences
it. Yeah. I think
if things were done different, different
timing, different
circumstances, whatever, yeah.
It'll be way different, I think, right now.
And by the way, one last thing I'm going to say about this,
there is some sources out there that are talking about.
Okay, so the general consensus,
and by the way, if you guys are listened to us
and have listened to us for any amount of time,
you would know that general consensus is usually bullshit.
Like the general consensus of what everybody is supposed to think is this, right?
And most people that listen to us know that a lot of that's bullshit.
So the general consensus, though, is that the Russia is invading Ukraine because of the fact that they could join NATO, which, by the way, the reason why people say America is instigating it is because they're instigating the Ukraine to join NATO.
And so a lot of people are encouraging them.
Yeah.
And so a lot of people have said, why did the United States not come out and say Ukraine's not going to join NATO?
Don't worry about it.
You guys stand down.
Ukraine will be the same way they've been.
And everything will be the same.
Now that's one scenario.
If that is the case, the United States didn't do their job there.
They didn't say, we're not going to push them to join NATO, right?
I mean, and so it was just like a kind of back and forth because we didn't have any leadership in the United States,
the only free country, the police of the world.
We had no leadership to say, if you do this, we're going to do this, blah, blah, blah.
And so in turn, you know, it kind of got off, got out of hand.
And then, you know, Biden issued some bullshit sanctions, which,
by the way, he came out today knowing that this is a full-scale, all-out attack on the Ukraine.
And everything he announced today was what he already announced as far as what sanctions that he was already going to do.
Right, but he's going to already do.
But the one thing that countries around the world are saying that you need to the, you have to take them out of this banking system, the international banking system.
I can't think of the word right now, because we're not doing this podcast.
But you've got to take him out of this banking system.
And of course, Biden didn't do it.
They also asked Biden, you can sanction Putin himself.
And so he's like, yeah, I know.
No, he actually said, we could even sanction Putin himself.
And there were reporters that said, well, why are you not doing this?
Why are you not doing it today?
Why, why the holdup?
Why is it not important now?
He's like, no, we're not doing that.
And our sanctions, we'll wait a month or two and see how they go.
His answer is, we're going to wait a month or two.
Well, what's going to be happening in a month or two?
Ukraine will be taken over completely.
Like last night, 40 people, like, they really started last night in Vegas.
I think there's a lot more people who was dead.
Yeah, they, well, it was 40 last night.
But Ukraine's hold the ground, though.
Because I heard it in the middle of the night.
I was like, oh, they did it.
They've down some, Ukraine is down some helicopters in Russia.
Like 17 or something.
Yeah, they've down some.
Now, from the aviation pilot perspective, right?
they the only the only Antonov a n24 airplane the only last one that's in the world by the way that
plane is the largest airplane in the world there is no plane bigger and in aviation it is the
holy grail of airplanes because it is the biggest airplane in the world there's nothing bigger
nothing ever built bigger there's only one of them left and it's in ukraine and so russia
attacked that place where that plane is oh that
international airport.
I don't know if it was the international airport.
I think it was somewhere else.
But the chief pilot officially, I guess, has come out and said it was not hit as of right now.
But that's the only plane left of that airplane.
And before we get into my new news about it real quick, I just want you to mention,
ouch, I just popped many what you were just mentioning before.
I just lost my intran of thought.
I want you to mention what I completely forgot about.
How the hell am I supposed to mention?
I'm not a mind reader.
Bang.
I just lost it.
Well, anyways, I'll just talk about what.
Okay, so it is now known that they've took over a place in Ukraine called sinnable or something.
Sinable.
So they're all, they've already took over parts of Ukraine.
Babe, don't even say the word because that's not the word.
I'm never sure.
But yeah, it's something, yeah.
No, no, no, no.
They've taken over many.
They've actually flew the Russian flag in many.
parts of cities.
They've went to the tops of these buildings where the Ukraine flag was.
They replaced that flag with the Russian flag.
Right.
But they have not taken over.
It was the sovereign places yesterday.
Yeah, of course they did that.
But today is a real place that's Ukraine.
No, no.
They're attacking.
I just saw that.
I know, but they're attacking cities across.
Oh, yeah.
It's all over.
Oh, that was what it was.
I was talking about the red areas and what one conspiracy theory that you are reading up on.
was about.
Yeah, so look, the last thing we're going to say about this before we can move on to the Havana thing is one of the conspiracy theories on this and not even, I don't know, I mean, it could be true, but, you know, Russia has bitched the United States for the past five to ten years that they did not want bio-weapons labs in Ukraine so close to their border.
And so from what sources are saying that United States funds and possibly could be a part of, I guess, things in Ukraine, bio-weapon labs, that they either.
or contribute to or possibly have something.
I don't know if this is true.
I don't know. I have not.
These are just sources that are coming out right now.
And it is kind of strange because if we look at the bio-weapons lab map,
it's very similar to where they're attacking everything.
And then there was a report today that they did attack a lab, Russia.
And so, but contrary to that,
the only reason I would say maybe that's not the case is because I would think Russia,
Putin would come out and like flat-out say,
we don't want bio-weapons labs next to our board.
border and this is why we're attacking.
But has he really even come out and said anything why he's attacking?
Is it all, does he say it's a little?
No, he hasn't really even said that either.
I mean, do we even really know why he's doing this?
No, we don't really know.
No, I mean, he hasn't really said it.
I mean, there's a reason for that.
My opinion he's doing this is because he knows he can get away with it right now.
And because he's doing this, guess what?
China is now having aircrafts in no-
No-fly zones over Taiwan.
Taiwan, Taiwan. Taiwan.
Yeah, there's 19 aircraft that was in Taiwan airspace.
Today.
Yeah.
They're next.
It'll be the next thing because, I mean, look, when you got a weak-ass, bitch-ass president like the United States has right now, you know ain't nobody going to get involved in anything because the United States is essentially over NATO.
And NATO is the biggest worrisome thing of any large country.
Like, especially communist countries.
Well, yeah.
But that's the whole reason.
Like, United States is big, right?
And if you look at United States versus China and Russia and the big countries,
United States would probably win out wars against either of them, you know, in a war without nukes.
But not necessarily militarily or ground wars, but then you have NATO, which, you know, encompasses many countries.
And that's the whole, there's really the whole reason NATO was created was because they knew that we had adversaries that were huge that could screw over the only remaining, quote unquote, free country there is.
So anyways.
So that's all we got to say.
That's all we got to say about the Russia-Ukraine thing.
Let's move on to the Hibvanus subject.
But I just want to say I am praying for everyone.
You know, my heart goes out to everyone that is experiencing that.
Like, I just, I hate that that's going on.
I really do.
Yeah.
And by the way, you know, when I talk about the Russia-Ukraine thing,
I'm not talking about it as in a sense of I sympathize with Russia or any of that.
I want to make that clear.
I'm just saying that, you know, we have to look at it.
all sides. And I think that's one thing
we always have to look at. And by the way,
regardless of all sides, you see
some of these videos coming in and all that. These are citizens.
These are people that have nothing
to do with anything. There are protests all around
the world.
Even in Russia. Yeah.
That are protesting this war. And these people
don't deserve it. And I don't give a damn
what the, I don't care what Putin's
in the wrong here. And regardless
of Ukraine's government, whether
they're good to their people or not,
it doesn't matter.
And by the way, if Ukraine's government is piece shit, you know, whatever.
Maybe they'll be taken out before the people will.
But either way, I just don't want the people to be taken out.
And there's a lot of good people there's a lot of innocent people.
Yeah, and there's a lot of people that say, like, if you go to Ukraine and stuff like that,
they're the nicest, coolest people you'll ever meet.
And that's a very sad thing they're having to go through.
And it's just like if we had to go through that in U.S. or Canada.
I mean, and so that's...
Or anywhere around the world.
So that's the only reason...
the, you know, the hot topic of like, what would I do as a president?
Like, would I intervene or would I not?
I would have to in some way.
And I would have to more than we're doing now.
I mean, I know there's a big debate on that.
But I can't just let those people be screwed.
And by the way, if I was president, I would probably intervene more than maybe we do in some cases to protect people.
Well, they're saying, based on the government.
This has nothing to do with America or whatever.
But it really does.
Well, it does.
I mean, it does financially because this whole oil situation, the gas and all that, that's going to affect Americans to begin with.
But besides that, this is human life.
Right.
This is something we're supposed to be protecting.
Exactly.
And I'm just saying, if I was president, I would have not ever let it get to this far.
Yeah, you're right.
You should have started way before now.
Yes.
All right.
So Havana syndrome, guys, this is going to be a very hot topic.
And we're going to try not to tell.
I mean, we're already 19 minutes in, Dan.
We've had 19 minutes of shit.
Don't even have to do with this podcast, but whatever.
Havana syndrome.
Havana syndrome is an alleged set of medical symptoms with unknown causes experienced mostly abroad by U.S. government officials and military personnel.
So these symptoms usually range in severity from pain and ringing in the ears to cognitive difficulties.
And they were first reported in 2016 by U.S. and Canadian Embassy staff in Havana, Cuba.
So beginning in 2017, more people including U.S. intelligence and military personnel and their families reported having these symptoms in other places, such as China, New Delhi, India, Europe, and Washington, D.C.
The cause and validity of the illness has yet to be determined.
This is based on Wikipedia.
Now, we're going to get at something in probably 20 minutes, and I want you guys to remember this particular
line of what I just read
that talks about military personnel
and their families, okay?
I want you to remember that.
Because that's important.
Military personnel
and their families.
Okay? Because I think this
one line, and this is based on
Wikipedia and government information,
this one line, I think,
differentiates everything we're going to talk about.
Yeah, I agree. I know exactly
where you're going with that.
Okay.
So what is Havana syndrome?
Well, the U.S. Department of State has referred to events as unexplained health incidents,
while the CIA, William Byrne, has publicly called them attacks.
So there was a 2019 retrospective neuroimogen study of 40 affected diplomats in Cuba,
published in the medical journal of JAMA, found evidence that diplomats had significant brain neuroimogen differences
compared to healthy control group members,
but it was not able to determine the cause of the observed differences
and the states that the clinical importance of these differences
is uncertain and may require further study.
While there is no expert consensus on the syndrome cause,
an expert committee of the National Academic of Sciences,
engineering and medicine concluded in December 2020
that microwave energy,
specifically directed pulse RF energy,
appears to be the most plausible,
mechanism in explaining these causes and cases among those that the committee considered
but that each possible cause remains speculative.
So they don't know for sure, but that's what they're speculating.
The National Academic of Sciences and Engineering of Medicine says that they believe over anything
that is microwave energy.
Now, the reason that's also important that the National Academic of Sciences, Engineering,
and Medicine says this.
This is a huge research group.
Yeah, well, yes.
It's one of the top.
So is JAMA.
Yeah, and this is in Wikipedia.
And JAMA is one of the biggest medical journals there are.
But there are articles that have been media pushed,
that have been government pushed,
because if we know, we should know by now,
that media articles, especially mainstream media,
they push articles based on what their narrative,
they want you to believe the narrative.
Yeah.
So as of the past six to eight months, there has been articles being pushed by the same bullshit media that push articles such as Russia hoax with Trump.
They push articles based on the January 6th insurrectionists.
These same media sources will push articles that talk about how truckers in Canada are terrorists and white supremacists.
And they're white nationalists and they want to overthrow the government.
these same media sources have now come out and started pushing a narrative around this, the Havana syndrome.
They are pushing narratives.
They have brought on three or four random-ass doctors, by the way.
I read this today.
It reminds me a lot of Joe Rogan, actually.
It reminds me of the Gerrogan thing when they brought on 200 medical experts, doctors,
when most of them weren't even medical experts.
Yeah, they're like dead-ins and veterinarians.
Cancelling them?
But listen, this was their first attempt to cancel them.
And so this reminds me a lot of that because now these same media outlets that also say that if you are a Trump supporter or you believe in freedom or you believe in human rights, you are an insurrectionist, a terrorist.
Or if you believe, or if you say anything against a narrative, you're a misinformationist terrorist.
So these same media sources have come out and they brought three or four little bullshit-ass doctors with them.
and they said this is all in the mind.
This is all in your mind.
It's bullshit.
That's literally what they're pushing now.
This is all bullshit.
So the funny thing about this is that this is went across administrations.
This is not just, you know, this happened in Trump administration.
It also happened.
Well, it actually started happening, I believe, in the Trump administration.
But there were reports that happened in the Obama administration and before.
But they don't want to connect those occurrences.
with when it officially quote unquote
started happening under Trump,
but we will connect that in the minute
of how these are actually connected.
So their official narrative is
that the Havana syndrome started in,
or five years ago,
and it has affected 130 people.
But in reality,
what we're going to get to in a minute,
it shows that it was going on longer than that.
And yet they just wanted to discard that
because it was connected
with something they didn't want to connect
it with as bullshit.
So now that this is happening on a scale to where there's no way you can avoid the media
on this, especially when it's CIA agents, U.S. spies, diplomats, and others, you have no
way to disconnect this because these people, which are highly important, prominent people
in the government, are coming forward and saying, no, you're going to talk about what
happened to me.
Yeah, exactly.
Because they feel like it is a.
foreign adversary.
Or maybe a terrorist operation, a domestic terrorist operation.
Oh, a domestic terrorist.
Maybe it's domestic terrorists that are the elite.
Who knows?
Yeah.
Well, yeah, you don't know.
So that's where we're at.
So what does the Havana syndrome essentially do?
Like, what is it?
So the Havana syndrome, it is
affected 130 people on record since September of 2021,
but now we know it's affected more.
And it's basically been causing brain impairments
in spies, diplomats, military, and other U.S. employees stationed abroad.
And not just abroad, this has happened to the United States as well.
And something that all these articles leave out, by the way,
is what's happened to some of our pilots, but we're going to get to that.
So cases from Europe and other regions of Asia are also.
also included in the new cases.
Havana's syndrome is a collection of medical signs and symptoms recorded by the U.S. and Canadian
emacy since 2016, they say.
The considerable barrier to their work and normal function of their lives are hampered
to the point of their cognitive abilities and everything that they can function neurology.
What was it, neurological?
Yeah, neurologically.
So it's things that cause them neurological symptoms.
And this can go from dizziness, severe headache,
progress to nausea, fatigue, sleep issues, hearing loss, insomnia, and even memory loss.
God, it sounds like me.
Some people who have experienced Havana syndrome have also described hearing a loud, piercing sound,
and feeling great pressure on their face.
Tonight is ear pain, vertigo, brain fog, loss of balance, and muscle control are also
some of the after effects that were observed in the last three to four years.
And this is beyond the actual initial attack.
While the symptoms are gone for some of the affected people that were affected by this,
some of the symptoms went away.
There are others that have lingered and posed a severe impediment to their either
employment or normal function of their everyday life.
So some people, it went away.
Some people, it didn't.
And actually, there are reports that some people have died from this.
I mean, there are reports from doctors.
From hemorrhaging or what?
No, no.
They were so fucked brain-wise.
It was almost like, too much brain damage.
A vegetable state.
Too much brain damage.
Wow.
So then there was also a visit to China in 2018.
A U.S. envoy complained about hearing the same Pearson.
sound in 2018, a Canadian officer reported having peculiar health symptoms, and when tested,
it was discovered that the individual had suffered from brain damage, but no information
could be extracted to determine why the brain damage occurred in the first place.
And a 2019 academic study in the United States discovered that the guys who were unwell
had brain abnormalities.
Now, the one of the things that, when I started, when I was researching all this shit,
And, you know, I'm reading right now to you guys what these articles say the official narrative is.
And so when you have mainstream media publishing things like this, it sounds like sci-fi, right?
I mean, if you look at like 2021, think about this, everyone.
You look at 2021, you would think this shit is a sci-fi book.
You've got a global pandemic, which was more than likely created by a mad scientist and a conspiracy to create global unrest and,
death and suffering.
And then you look at UFO reports.
You look at this Havana syndrome where people are targeting people's brains with waves of some kind of crazy direct energy weapon.
Now you got the rush of Ukraine war.
Like, this shit just happened.
You're about to have, you're about to have an invasion of Taiwan.
Because trust me, that's going to happen too.
We're going to have another podcast on that, probably in the next couple weeks.
This shit sounds like sci-fi.
But the reality is that
the National Academic of Science and Engineering of Medicine
they released a report in December of 2020
on the findings
and they said that
the possibilities to explain the symptoms of the Havana
syndrome, they investigated symptoms
of approximately 40 government personnel
and listed below symptoms.
So they said it was either from chemical, infection, or psychological factors, or microwave energy.
And so all 40 of these people pretty much had the, yeah, just the 40, they researched.
And they all, so they brought this group that all had the same symptoms.
They're kind of from the same work.
So they investigated them to figure out what the hell is going on with them.
Because how would you even know if you're just like, oh, come into the doctor's office and we're going to examine you.
Oh, you've been hit by the, you know.
because they knew because of what happened to them.
And I guess they were governor officials.
They had heard about this before.
Then they went to the doctor.
And that's that main point, though.
It's geared towards certain people.
Yeah.
Yeah, it is.
And so this whole thing has been unexplained, but a new, what they call conspiracy theory,
has been raised that it could be a weapon of war.
This is a conspiracy theory.
Well, we know it's something.
I mean, you know, the one of the, the one of the,
One of the top science and engineering firm and medical organizations, the top that has the best scientists that study weird shit like this, right?
They said that it was more than likely a microwave energy.
Okay?
So in the same article, they're talking about this is a conspiracy theory, that it could be a weapon of war.
Well, look, if it is a human being doing this, then it would be a weapon of war.
Now, Donald Trump in 2017 said that he believed it was Cuba is responsible.
Which makes me very...
Yeah, but...
The hit.
Yeah, but...
Yeah, but...
Havana syndrome.
Yeah, exactly.
But, you know...
Because that's where it first started.
And, like, I hate to say it to you to you Trump supporters, which, by the way, I'm more
Trump supporter than I am freaking anybody else lately.
But what I am saying is, I hate to say to all the Trump supporters.
Trump supporters.
It reminds me eerily of when someone blames Cuba for shit, you've got to look back at
yourself.
Kennedy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've rushed in Northwoods.
And it's like, who do we blame?
Because this is fucked up and we don't know what it is.
Yeah.
So let's blame Cuba.
And we're going to name it the Havana syndrome.
Yeah.
So one of the things that we, one of the things that Sherry shared with me last night when we, last
night on the podcast after the Russia-Ukraine episode.
After the episode, we were talking about, you know, we were going to do this podcast
tonight. And I said to Sherry, I said, you know, it's strange
because of this whole thing. And I was like, I think we need to do this. And it is,
and by the way, microwaves are radiation. That is what it is. It is a radiation wave.
So if you ever, if you guys ever remember someone saying not to stand too close to the microwave,
Well, where that actually came from was the fact that back in 10 years ago, even probably,
but more so 15 to 20 years ago.
And especially when microwaves first came out,
microwaves were known back then to have a radiation leak.
They didn't have the technology they do now to where if you stand next to a microwave now,
according to scientist, quote unquote, even though shit.
I hate to even say scientists now.
I know.
I know.
But it's, but.
I don't know, Chad, because we even did that radiation like scanner.
Yeah, that is true.
Yeah.
On our microwave.
And it spiked.
That is true, actually.
Damn, you make a freaking another great point, babe.
Okay.
So,
so Sherry, I think, just proved me just now.
But what I was going to say, let me, let me say what I was going to say.
And then we'll say what you're saying.
What I was going to say is I think we have technology now that can block those waves from
microwaves in comparison to what we used to have, but Sherry makes a good point. So when all the alien
shit and all these things were coming out, and when we had our sighting, we got a Geiger counter.
And a Geiger counter essentially just shows radiation. And so it'll detect radiation. It'll
detect those waves and it'll spike. It's just like a graph. Or you can do it in different things,
but you can do like a, there's different variations of how you can see spikes. You can do it in a number.
variation. You can do it in a graph, like a bar graph, all that. And so we just wanted to make sure that
this Geiger counter, radiation counter, actually worked. And so we're like, well, the only thing we know
to see if this works is our microwave. So we, and this is actually a brand new microwave. I think
when we had this. I'm not sure. It doesn't matter. But it was during the summer and you're like,
let's turn it on and close the door. We just put the Geiger counter near it and it spiked like
crazy, which means it was getting intense levels of radiation.
So maybe I'm wrong.
So and actually also, by the way,
Shary mentioned something on the first part of this podcast that,
well, not the first part.
It was the part, you all didn't hear.
Yeah, the deleted part.
But Sherry mentioned something else that about cell phones.
You know, people have always accused cell phones of possibly causing brain cancer
due to radiation and waves.
And then on the last podcast, and I'm just thinking better clearly now, last podcast I was like, well, there's supposedly been proof that that doesn't happen.
It doesn't cause cancer.
There's not enough signal to actually cause harm to you.
But do you remember when we put the Geiger counter and that's a cell phone and it spiked like crazy?
Yeah.
That's a signal.
That is a microwave.
Exactly.
So who the fuck is lying?
Because, and by the way, the cell phone.
almost caused more
than the microwave signal than the microwave.
Yeah.
You remember?
Because we went,
I swear to God, guys,
we went around the house
and we just like tested different areas.
We did various things.
TVs, everything.
TV's even admitted some signal.
Not as much, but you know,
but,
but yeah,
cell phones and the microwave
and stuff like that,
huge.
Wi-Fi.
Actually, I tested the Wi-Fi up here.
It was another big spike.
But the night we had our
UFO encounter that was going on
way the hell up.
there, the car alarms went off and shit.
I know that sounds nuts, but y'all go listen.
But they really did.
Go listen.
Go listen to our UFO encounter podcast.
The night we had that, we had the Geiger counter.
The only reason we had that was because we started seeing this shit for three or four days before that night.
And we got this because, you know, we kind of knew about the radiation thing.
And that night, our Geiger counter was going through the roof.
And so.
And that's what led me to believe this whole encounter that we're having or, you know, important people.
are having these Havana, whatever's.
Yeah.
Could be, you know, it says spike in radiation, right?
It is, yeah, it is.
Well, what causes radiation?
All right, so.
So, just think about it for a minute.
So you make a good point.
Well, we've talked about on other podcasts that, number one, we've talked about Bob
Bazar, we've talked about UFOs, and listen.
Oh, sorry, this is saying,
This is talking, and I did not mean to make this talk right now.
But anyways, we've talked on other episodes about Bob Lazar,
and we've talked about actually as recently as either a last podcast or one before that,
about if Bob Lazar is right about UFOs, and he is right in the terms of,
he said the reason why UFOs make light based on his experiences at Area 51 as a
propulsionist astrophysicist.
It makes light based on radiation reaction
because he believes that UFOs are powered by
it's on gravity field,
which then in turn reacts with our gravity field,
which allows it to go supersonic speeds
without affecting the being inside of the craft
because if you're creating your own gravity field,
you affect your own gravity, okay?
And we've talked about this before.
We're not going to go deeper in this.
But what I'm saying is the reason why we could not have a craft that disappears to the point of it's going so fast that it disappears is because we don't have a way to manipulate our gravity.
Our pilot would be dead.
Yeah, we've never.
Even if it wasn't a pilot, our craft would completely break up.
Yeah, it would disintegrate.
Which they did.
They did have different materials, I think, too.
Oh, yeah, they did, but we don't.
And the thing is, is that even the space shuttle program, look how many.
space shuttles we've lost because of reentry and or even, I mean, you know, they burn up because
it's a very hard thing to, and the reason for that is because we are interacting with our gravity.
Right.
We're not creating, if we had a space shuttle that re-entered Earth's atmosphere with its own gravity
field, we would have no issues.
It would just be like slicing butter with a hot knife.
But instead, it's like the opposite of that.
I mean, it really is.
It's like
I don't know what the damn comparison is
But we'll move on for that
But I just feel like radiation has a like a big role
Well the radiation has a role in the UFO thing
If you believe the UFO thing
Which we're about to get in that
And I 100% believe UFOs are here
And I believe they are from another planet
I don't believe even they're from our future
I believe they are from another advanced civilization
Somewhere else
And I believe they have figured out a way
To create their own gravity field around their craft
and by the way, this all matters about what we're about to talk about with Havana's syndrome.
And so Bob Lazard and other scientists and astrophysicist and physicists have said that if you have a craft, for example, that can create its on gravity field,
and there were even scientists that said, if they may not have believed Bob Lazar or not, they were just stating on straight physics,
if you had a craft that created us on gravity field, that interacted with,
gravity it would create it
number one it would create intense radiation
because of the interaction between
particles of our gravity and theirs
and then also it would also
not affect anything
that has to do with the craft
itself or the people inside
the craft right because
their gravity field is moving
based on the speed of our
gravity it's like an orbit around their
craft kind of it's almost
like this is the weird thing to think about
it's almost like they are sitting
still in their spacecraft.
This was explained by a scientist one time, and he said, if you have an alien spacecraft
that essentially creates their own gravity field, that interacts with ours, right?
Then you would have the technology to be able to interact and maneuver, not the craft itself,
but you would have the maneuverability of the gravity versus gravity.
But yet what happens inside of that gravity field around the craft never changes.
It's almost like you're sitting still, even if you're going to speed of light.
Well, it's kind of like when you're in an airplane.
You don't feel the speed.
Well, you do feel it more.
Yeah, you don't, yeah.
But you don't feel the speed of how fast do airplanes go, what, 500 miles an hour?
Yeah, about 5 or 600 or 600.
I mean, like commercial.
You don't, but if you are in a car going 500, you could never go 500 miles an hour.
Because even when we.
Well, you could.
Well, I'm just saying when we've got 100 miles an hour in our car, I can feel the, the price.
pressure.
Yeah.
But when you're in a plane, you don't feel that pressure.
So it's kind of the same thing, too.
All right.
So I don't know why I just did this again.
Okay.
So let's talk about the connection here.
Because it is a big connection, I think.
And Sherry's the one that brought up to me to, well, she referenced Skinwalker Ranch.
We'll just go ahead and say it.
And we're not going to get into Skinwalker Ranch yet.
We're going to let this doctor talk about.
real experience like legitimate real experiences and then we're going to talk about what he's talking about
and then we're going to get on the skin walk around because I think that's the to me I think that's
the bombshell um so when I said earlier in the Wikipedia documentation about how this
Havana syndrome affected not only the military personnel it made sure to say the military personnel
and their families.
Okay?
And their families.
Now, I looked into this a little bit because I was like, well, maybe their families were with them when they were attacked by this.
Yeah, that's what I would think.
Okay.
But they weren't.
Most of these military personnel were from pilots.
Okay.
And when they experienced this issue that they had, it was during the time they were on a sortie.
And what a sortie means, a sortie is a training operation or a, you know, a, you know,
in flight.
Yeah.
So it's essentially like if you have eight F-18s and you get scrambled.
As a fighter pilot, you may be in bed at 2 o'clock in the morning.
And you may get scrambled, they call it, to where your alarms go off.
You have to be up and in and up and out and in your airplane within like three minutes and taken off within like five.
And your entire squadron has to be that you practice this all the time.
and the Navy Marine Corps Air Force and all of them practice this on a regular basis.
And they do it to where you were out of your bed and in your plane and taken off in then five minutes.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
I can't even wake up and get out of my own bed in five minutes.
But this is a very important thing because of, you know, a national emergency.
Like, say Russia invaded us.
You have to have your aircraft in the air defending your country.
And so a lot of these sortie pilots, they would go on these sorties.
And a lot of the sorters take place over water.
And the reason that they take place over water is because a lot of our foreign adversaries that would be attacking us come from the water.
So whether it be Russia, China, any of those, Pacific Ocean, Atlantic Ocean, we don't have as many issues.
But most of the sorters take place in the Pacific Ocean.
Because if we have a foreign adversary who's going to attack us that is our enemies, it's going to come from Pacific.
It's going to come from there.
Yeah.
I hate to tell you, California people.
Yeah, I'm sorry, California.
California.
Especially anyone's listening to us anyway.
But so anyways, there's this doctor that decided to look at these cases of Havana
syndrome.
And he is one of the top doctors and neurologists and all that in the world.
And he tests brain of people who say they have had Havana syndrome.
But he also went a step further because him and his team said, well, it's very strange
because a lot of these pilots, military pilots,
and what Wikipedia and mainstream media
doesn't tell you about military personnel,
the military personnel they're talking about are pilots.
These are not military personnel on bases.
These are military personnel as pilots.
Wow.
Now, this doesn't tell you this in Wikipedia.
Right.
It just says military.
Yes.
And their families.
But then I looked in this and I was like,
oh, he's talking about, they're talking about military.
your personnel as in pilots, fighter pilots.
So you gain that information by looking into it.
That's crazy.
So the thing about the fighter pilots, though, is that these fighter pilots only experience
what is known as Havana syndrome during what they call a UFO encounter.
Oh, M.G.
Are you kidding me?
No.
So these Havana syndromes, the exact same symptoms that these spies and diplomats have got
around the world, whether it be in Cuba.
They were pilots?
No, no.
Listen to me, Sherry.
Okay.
I'm lost.
The diplomats and the spies and the CIA agents that have got Havana
syndrome that have been deployed in different places and even in Washington, D.C.,
they have had the symptoms the same as the military pilots that have encountered UFOs.
Okay?
He went a step further, though.
He brought in people that said they had encounters with aliens or with UFOs, for example.
He tried to bring in as many people that had the most, I guess, credible encounter with UFOs and then also tested their brain through MRI and Imogen scans.
So this is what he says.
And then we're going to talk about what the depth of, this is a short video, but listen, here it is.
We noticed a area of the brain that seemed to be disturbed, let's say, are different in many of these individuals.
So it's an area that I've talked about before between the head of the cardiac and epitamin
that it increased neural density.
And it was larger in all these individuals.
And so you asked the question, okay, what's unique about these individuals?
Well, they're all highly functioning.
And you have to make snap decisions.
And so what is that?
That's intuition.
One way to explain it would be intuition or just highly intelligent.
And then surprisingly, when we looked in the family members, we found that the family members
had it, which was fascinating.
So that means that structure had a genetic component, whatever it was.
Okay, so this is the doctor, like, you know, talking about.
But they're saying a genetic component.
That's way different than a family member.
Genetic, no, no, no.
It's not what he's saying.
He was saying genetic component as far as they're all smart.
They make snap decisions.
These people are able to rationalize and have a high IQ and all that.
stuff. And so he was talking about pilots on this and also
CIA agents. Okay, so it's not exactly their family members. No, no, no, no. But no, no,
he said family members. They also had family members that also had this
similarly. And what they found was
a, and by the way, this is a professor doctor. He's been
testing brains of people who say they've been experienced Havana
syndrome and or UFO encounter. And these are the symptoms they
display. So Dr. Gary Nolan, he's a
Professor of Pathology at Stanford University, who has published more than 300 research articles and holds 40 U.S. patents, has spent the last decade analyzing materials from alleged Havana Syndrome and Unidentified Aerial Phnomon or UAPs.
So he's clumped it together like I did.
Yes.
Wow.
But he's done this on MRIs.
He's done this on MRIs.
Speaking to Vice Motherboards, Nolan opened up about his work and revealed what sparked his interest in UAPs.
Nolan, who admitted to being an avid reader of science fiction, said his interest took flight
when he reached out to a man named Stephen Greer, which we've talked about Stephen Greer on the podcast.
He's another doctor who claimed a small skeleton was possibly an alien.
Even though the alien, it wasn't actually an alien.
This doctor actually proved that it wasn't based on some kind of genome weird shit that used to happen way back in the day.
So Nolan published a paper titled Whole Genome Sequencing.
and it basically showed that what Stephen Greer thought could have been an alien
was actually a novel mutation linked to what's called dysplasia.
But his involvement with UAPs began after he was asked to use his blood analysis instrumentation
to help with cases of pilots who were close to alleged UAPs
and also had horrible brain damage.
So keep in mind UAPs is Unidentified Aerophonomena or UFOs.
Yeah, I thought it was, yeah.
So when asked if he could describe the more abnormal effects on the brains observed with the MRI,
as Nolan said, if you ever looked in an MRI of somebody with multiple sclerosis, for example,
there's something called white matter disease.
And it's essentially scarring.
So it's the same thing as if you looked at an MRI or a CAT scan of a lung that has had scarred in the lung.
You're going to see a white spot.
That's why this, that's why like if you're trying to diagnose lung cancer when somebody,
You got to see whether it's scarring or cancer.
Scarring or it's cancer.
Yeah.
Which is like cells going out of control.
So he said it's a big white blob or multiple white blobs scattered throughout the MRI.
It's essentially dead tissue where the human system has attacked the brain.
That's what multiple sclerosis actually is.
He said that's probably the closest thing that you could come to if you wanted to look at a snapshot from one of these individuals.
Wow.
You can pretty quickly see that there's something very wrong.
And keep in mind, this is people that.
have either experienced Havana syndrome.
But more importantly, recently, he has done MRIs on these pilots that have had a UFO encounters.
And I guess they're all at different, like, different extinct or what's a god?
Never mind.
Anyway, so approximately.
Different.
I don't know.
Approximately 100 patients, mostly defensive governmental personnel or people working in the aerospace industry were analyzed.
So this was 100 patients.
So symptoms of this studied some of the people from what Nolan called a smorgasbord of patients.
You had patients with some of whom had weird noises buzzing in her head, got sick, etc.,
said. A reasonable subset of them had claimed to have seen UAPs, and some claimed to be close to things that got them sick.
Ultimately, his team learned that people who they originally thought were damaged had an overconnection of neurons between the head
of the
caught it
and the Poudaman.
The number of people
that had this
over-connection led to
open question.
Did coming into contact
with whatever it was
cause it or not?
Nolan said
that approximately
a quarter of the MRI
patients who claimed
they had an encounter
who claimed
they had had an encounter
with UAPs
including military pilots
had died from their injuries
not long after he had seen them.
Which is nuts.
and by the way
this is being reported by the sun
it's been reported by
Daily Mail
so and it sounds like
a lot of these people that have
had these encounters
or this has happened to them
it almost overreacts
and that's what's causing
the issue
yeah I you know
yeah I'm gonna get at that in a second
the majority were found
to have symptoms identical
to Havana syndrome
okay
so especially the pilots
that encountered UAP stuff
but some people who had
seen UAPs didn't have
Havana syndrome and instead had a wide range of other
symptoms, but they were still mostly
neurological.
So there was also
a drawled, a
jaw drop in NASA report around this time
that just essentially said
that extraterrestrial
life they believe does exist.
And this is during the time that all these pilots are
coming out and saying, we're having these UAP
experiences, so on and
so forth.
So then there
was also something else that, you know,
this was not long after this,
the China Space Agency actually found
a tiny hut on the moon
and they dubbed it
a mysterious house after spotting the
cube on the far side of the lunar surface.
And so there are actual pictures of this.
And it looks like a
freaking little house on the moon.
And so, yeah. And so
China actually, I believe, has
the closest
imagery.
Like drone
space drone or whatever.
They sent this thing out like years ago.
And it's been circling the moon for a while and it has imagery of some little hut thing.
But anyways.
That's crazy.
Neither here nor there.
But we've heard of things like that.
Yeah, there's a lot of conspiracy bullshit.
You know, like structures on the moon and all that stuff.
It's just really hard to believe.
No, but China's, I mean, the most groundbreaking thing is China's actual craft and they released it and said, yeah.
It's a hut.
Here's the picture.
Yeah, it's like a house-looking thing.
I don't know what it is.
But either way, let's get back to this.
So you have these military pilots that have been exposed to a UAP.
They have either encountered a UAP or otherwise.
And not long after that, they got similar symptoms to what Havana syndrome offers.
Some of them had different symptoms,
but the majority of them had Havana syndrome symptoms.
So let's go to briefly the Skinwalker Ranch episodes.
If you guys haven't watched Skinwalker Ranch at all,
I encourage you to do so,
which, by the way, I want to go back and watch those.
And I'm going to figure out where the hell we watched them out.
You guys will have to look up where Skin Walker Ranch.
It's probably Netflix.
And we don't have that anymore, but.
No, we still can watch it.
But anyway, blink that out.
But this is where my revelation came into progress.
So, yeah, last night, Sherry,
after we were talking about the Havana syndrome and this whole deal,
She was like, hey, do you remember what happened with Skinwalker Ranch with the radiation and whatever happened?
So basically, and I'm not going to give away anything, you guys, deaths, you have to watch this.
But Skin Walker Ranch is a group.
Okay, Skin Walker Ranch has had the most sightings of UFOs and aerial phenomena pretty much of anywhere.
Yeah, and this was a farm that normal farmers had before.
And they sold it because they had to get rid of it.
They had to get out of there because it was just too crazy for them.
They couldn't keep livestock.
They kept dying.
They didn't know why they were dying.
They had investigations and everything else.
They had incidents themselves.
They got sick themselves.
And they also had like things about like ghosts and spirits and all, everything.
Everything.
And so Skinwalker Ranch basically has these scientists and doctors.
They're legitimate scientists.
These guys are legitimate.
They're well-known scientists even that come to this ranch to investigate this to see if they
can figure out anything that might have anything.
to do with this.
And, you know, this is a show that I think it was on Discovery originally, I believe.
I think it's a Discovery show or history or one of the show.
But they go this, they go this ranch, and they are able to investigate this over the course of weeks and months.
And some of the things that happen on this ranch are very, if you look up, just, if you
connect Havana syndrome with radiation, which is what it is, this is what our, you know,
top brass in the military and government are saying is they believe it is a microwave energy weapon
but and it's a weapon yeah that's the main point is but a lot of a lot of what happens that
skinwalker ranch revolves around radiation right now one of the things that someone said was okay
and this is a very good point um if you have CIA agents that are in havana that are in all
these places. By the way, I don't know if you guys know this, but CIA agents, you're not just
going to go find these dudes. You're not just going to go. Oh yeah. They're very secretive. We might
have a CIA agent living down the street from us. Exactly. And you would never know. Yeah.
So the point is, is that if you're going to have these CIA agents and diplomats and people that are
highly secretive, just be attacked and then no trace of where this shit's coming from to a CIA agent.
because I hate to say it, but like these CIA agents,
they said that towards the end of all this,
they started wearing this device that is like a,
actually we talked about this similarly on another podcast,
like a necklace, but it was a radiation thing.
No, no, we didn't talk about it,
but the guy told us this,
but it's actually interesting that.
Yeah, because that kind of like,
that's another connection.
But this CIA agent,
that's crazy.
This one CIA agent in this one particular instance,
they had a device around their neck or somewhere.
It was a necklace, I think.
And so when it started happening,
you started feeling weird,
it was detecting that it was a radio radiation wave.
And then they got this team to go behind them
to see if they could track down where it was coming from.
And they tracked it to what appeared to be the freaking sky.
This is a actual report from wherever.
So it wasn't coming from a house down the road.
It wasn't coming from wherever.
They tracked this thing, this wave coming from the sky.
And then their explanation this was, they could beam it out of some shit.
I don't even know what they're explaining, but it didn't make sense to me.
So then you got Skinwalker Ranch that, you know, is a highly, you know, publicized thing.
And one of the, like a couple of the guys on there had to go to the hospital because of the exact same symptoms of Havana.
syndrome and when they pulled out their Geiger counters during this time and by the way they were
having intense UFO sightings at night and this crazy shit happened yes yeah and he had to go to the
hospital because he was dizzy he's about to throw up he couldn't cognitively understand what it was
even going on they had to call EMS for him like the same exact symptoms as the Havana yeah and the
original owners had the same shit going yeah and that's why they sold the farm because they couldn't
deal with it and Dr. Travis I can't remember what his last name is but uh Travis you
You remember that guy.
During one of these times that this happened, he went into a silo, which is a metal silo and it quit.
Like he was experiencing the same symptoms, and he went into this metal silo thing, and it stopped.
Like, he didn't have the symptoms anymore.
So the reason that makes sense is because it's metal and it's going to deflect radiation.
Yeah.
And meanwhile, Chad didn't even, like, we have to tell about the part of the radiation.
Like, this radiation is so intense that this is a farm with, like,
like live animals.
And these animals are just like drop, you know, they'll just drop dead.
All of a sudden, when these things appear.
Yeah, and then they'll go put a Geiger counter on these animals, and they'll have high levels of radiation.
Exactly.
And also when that, when that one cow died, for example, they, the, it was either the day before or whatever, they had a, I mean, like, if you want to see a real UFO sighting on camera, and it's no bullshit.
I mean, it's a literal, this is not a bullshit show.
No, it's real.
This is real.
Yeah, it's real.
They had a sighting of a freaking craft or something that flew across the sky.
And so it was the day after the cow died.
Yeah.
But so let's connect all these things.
But okay, before we connect it, though, too, they've also had people dig underground at this ranch.
And there's radiation there.
And there's.
Well, they've had the, well, they had the underground radar.
things too, where they would push it over
and there was like some kind of large device
there. But you know, I think kind of
one of the things they were thinking of
and I'm not going to give away. Yeah, but I want you
guys to watch the show. Yeah, it's so good. But I think
this area is somewhat of a portal.
Yeah, it's like a portal. Yeah.
And that's what made me start thinking
about like portals could really exist
is through this show. Seriously.
Well, yeah. I mean, they can.
I mean, you've got to look at like what happens over the ocean.
But man, these pilots have these
these instances of this Havana-type syndrome.
I mean, it makes complete sense.
Let's connect them real quick.
Radiation.
If Bob Lazar and anyone that knows how maybe these spacecrafts move,
that's pretty much gravity fields,
which then in turn creates radiation,
is it the fact that,
but there's two sides of this.
You know, if there's an intense,
if there's a lot of activity of possible UFOs,
like, say, skin walk a ranch,
then you would think there's going to be radiation there anyway.
But it seemed like with that particular instance of Skinner Warker Ranch, it was directed.
Because there was seven people standing there.
And it was the one dude.
And it was the one guy.
And it had already happened to him before.
Yeah.
It was the one guy.
It had happened to him before.
And it was like a directed ready a wave.
Yeah.
Nobody else got that except for the one guy.
Well, there was someone else.
Travis got it later on the show or whatever.
But the one dude is the one that really experienced it.
Yeah.
And he had experienced.
sit like six months before.
Like they,
I'm not going to get away.
Yeah, I think it was when he was there.
I mean, he was there.
Yeah.
When it happened as well.
So it's almost like it was a directed
something towards
that one guy.
So yeah.
So this doctor also had brought in people
that had the most credible
UFO encounters.
And he did their brains as well.
And he saw the same shit.
With their brains look different from normal
people. Yeah.
Like there was almost like a scarring
in their brain.
Yeah, either a scarring or just a...
He said there's a part of the brain.
It's almost like a ball.
That's like...
I can't remember what the part of the brain is.
But he said it's enlarged and it is not necessarily scarred,
but it's enlarged and it can cause pressure and some other things
because it's not what your normal brain should be.
Look, guys, I'm not saying this is the case,
but we have to make the case because I'm just connecting the dots here.
I mean, is it a foreign adversary?
I don't know. Look, there is so many arguments to where this could be for an adversary.
But damn it, you're talking about CIA agents in a lot of these cases.
And by the way, what does UFOs like to do?
They like to hover over military bases, nuclear power.
And so what else would they want to do?
They wouldn't want to get our top operatives and our top brains.
And, you know, it's similarly, and I know this sounds crazy, but we were talking about Ukraine and Russia, the hacking thing, right?
and this is on a different scale, but think about this.
When the media reports like a DDoS attack,
which is what Russia is probably going to do to us soon,
and this is what we're going to do to us,
and they've already done to Ukraine.
Yeah.
That on the surface, it just sounds like
they're just attacking and shutting down a server
based on packets overloading a server.
But what you have to understand is
that with any attack, it can either be completely offensive
or it can be offensive and informative
and information gathering.
And radio waves, we know,
for example.
Yeah. I mean, seriously.
Radio waves we know, for example, can communicate back and forth.
We know that cell phones, for example, can communicate information from one cell phone to another.
And then when the cell phone returns information back to it, it returns it back.
I think that's one of the best examples of microwave energy talking back and forth.
Yeah, exactly.
That is a cell phone.
So if you say that these people are having Havana syndrome, right?
And it just feels like they're fucked because a lot of them do have brain damage.
How much information is whatever that is gathering that, or whatever is penetrating that, are they getting back from that?
Because I don't think if it is aliens, for example, or UFOs, they're not just going to fuck over people for no reason.
They're probably gathering information that is in turn probably fucking these brains up a little bit.
But I think they're communicating microwavably.
Through the waves.
Yeah, because you guys have to remember, our brains are all electrons.
Yeah, they're all electrons.
They're electrons firing.
Yeah.
And in turn, it is a little.
Yeah, it is electricity firing our brain.
And if you can, and really, if you think about it, the best way that you can communicate or gather, like if you wanted to gather some kind of information off a brain, it'd probably be a microwave.
I mean, it's kind of similarly to static electricity.
When we touch something to static, it is a electrocurrent, but it communicates and it gives you a little shock.
Well, it communicates with our body.
It does however that may mean.
Right.
And your brain says, oh, I got a shock.
You got to move away from it.
Yeah.
Same thing is like touching a hot oven or anything.
But if you can penetrate a brain to where you have a device that can not only penetrate it,
which would probably hurt the brain because the brain's not used to that, right?
But if you can get that information back through microwave,
which is you're just offloading that signal of that brain,
we don't know what technology really holds in our future.
But like you would have to think like if people already, like we know that we can have.
Oh, we can do the audio stuff that misses people up.
Yeah, the acoustic weapons, which like it can cause hemorrhgen if you're in a close spot or it can even make you kind of out of sorts.
Well, you were even talking about in the last podcast about the Travis Scott concert, for example.
Yeah.
Yeah, the weird sound waves that were going on before the concert during intermissions.
It was making people freak out.
Even dogs that hear shit we can't.
There's a lot of things.
and those are called acoustic attacks or acoustic weapons.
But there's a huge difference in acoustic and microwaves.
And so I know that sounds out there, guys.
I know, but it's really, it's true.
These are two different ways that you can be attacked.
But I think I make the best case.
I think we make the best case for if this could be aliens, then we make the best case.
Yeah.
Because what I'm saying is the last thing I'll see is that these are CIA agents.
So if someone is doing this, they are, they might as well just attack us because they already know every move that our top operatives are making.
Right.
They know where they are.
And you know how hard that would be to know?
Unless it's someone inside her own government.
Government.
Yeah.
But I doubt that.
I don't think so either.
And it just is too coincidental that, you know, how we've talked about aliens so much and how radiation has to deal with all that so much.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And the thing is, too, is like, we don't, we don't, you know, we communicate, like, say, for example, aliens are doing this.
Let's just take this, for example.
Aliens can't communicate with us the way we communicate.
They can't, I mean, they could, maybe, but I don't know.
We communicate through sound waves.
Sound waves.
Which is a different thing than microwaves.
Yeah, but, you know, yeah.
And even if you look at like fire in the sky, instance, I can't remember what's damn name right now.
But, but, Walton.
Yeah.
I can't remember his first name.
But Walton, the guy that is one of the best cases for alien abduction ever.
If you watched a movie, watch a Joe Rogan podcast with him.
You know, he said that when this happened, which, by the way, the guys that they were, the guys he was with that were working with, they weren't going to lie for him because some of them hated him.
Yeah, they did not get along.
And they were accusing these people of murder.
Right.
And they were like, dude, I'm telling you what happened.
Like, this is what happened.
And then Walton came back five days later and said his story.
And he was abducted.
And he was abducted.
But one of the things he said was, I was in this craft, which all of the other guys saw.
There was like five guys.
And he said, I was in this craft.
And he said it was like they weren't, they didn't talk to each other.
But I knew what they wanted for me.
And it was telepathically.
They communicated in a different way than we did.
and so if you
which means they use different wavelengths than what we
microwaves
electric signals
there are signals that we
they're offloading information via signals
but a lot of times
like we don't do it as much as
probably
but a lot of people are
telepathic
no a lot of people are not telepathic
that's bullshit Chad I can know I can look at you
that's just knowing me though babe
that's not telepathic
I don't know that's knowing
You're talking about an alien coming out and offloading information and what you're thinking.
Yeah, I know that.
But I'm just saying it's kind of like in the same.
No, it's not.
I think it is.
Sorry.
But I think it is.
No, no, no, no.
Because that goes with like people that are psychic and people that can see more and hear more and do more or like can communicate with more.
I get it.
I mean, I'm not saying there's not people that know more or think more or feel more than others.
What I'm saying is...
No, I'm saying telepathic, like, psychics and stuff.
Yeah, but I don't think aliens are psychic.
I think it's...
But they're using the same brain waves or whatever.
Maybe.
That's possible, I guess, on a much stronger level.
Exactly.
I don't believe in what a...
I do.
Psychics, but...
I do.
So, that's our theory.
Yeah, and we're sticking to it.
But look, I think we make the best case with that.
I mean, no one's really, I mean, well, besides this professor and this team, they've made this connection.
And the only reason you found them is because of my connection.
Yeah, yeah, you're the one that, well, you're the one that said like, hey, think about this.
And I was like, you're right.
So yeah, that's your credit.
Thanks, babe.
And then, so then I kind of started researching and I found shit that made sense and connected.
I was like, okay, there's a professor and doctor in this team that's done the same thing.
But it had nothing to do with Skinwalker Ranch.
We mentioned Skinner Ranch.
But then he talked about pilots that encountered UAPs.
And I was like, holy shit.
Even though he had no mention of Skinwalker Ranch.
That is strange.
But it was still UAPs and aliens.
Yeah, but we made the connection of...
From a show we watched that, you know.
Exactly.
And then we actually saw what I would consider scientific evidence to a degree.
I mean...
Of this doctor, like examining people.
brains.
Yeah, pilots, military pilots that have experienced U.S.
But I still don't understand when he said, you said, keep this in your mind.
The genetic thing.
He was talking about, the genetic thing he was talking about was that he was talking about, that he was talking
genetically was like a lot of these people genetically were smart that were, that experienced.
Yeah, and that makes sense.
Like, people, like.
They knew how to make quick decisions.
they were very smart on their toes
They probably use more of their minds
than most people do
But it's also probably why they were
Targeted
Or had that encounter
And it goes back to psychics
Babe, I'm just telling you
Maybe psychics use a lot more of their brains
But also you got to think
I know there's fake psychics
But there really is real psychics
But you got to think like
If you're a UFO or alien or whatever
And CIA, right
I mean you know
You're looking after CIA agents
And a lot of those guys are extremely smart.
That's how they got in these CIA operative positions.
It's the same reason that UFO sightings have been more prominent over nuclear bases.
They want the best of the best information they can gather.
And so, you know, and by the way.
So they're going to try to use the smartest brains.
Yeah, smartest brains, the people that they feel like could be the threats to them.
And it's not even the smartest brains.
It's humans that use more of their brains, I think.
Yeah, maybe.
Yeah, I'm surprised
I just
I the whole thing
Like this whole
I'm surprised that Elon Musk has not been
He probably has been
I mean he sounds a little weird
Yeah
I'm just saying he does
He sounds a little strange
But man this is crazy
He might be half alien
Who knows
But the Havana syndrome
Guys what is it
What is it not?
I don't know
But
I definitely think it's
target.
I mean, I don't know.
I mean, it's just, I'm not saying for sure it's anything, but I think if you're going
to make a connection, we did more than anything.
Yeah.
More than anybody could.
Right.
And we use all these, all these things because, I mean, I don't know.
I mean, the CIA has admitted this as some kind of microwave energy.
They can't pinpoint anyone.
And by the way, it's like, if you fart loud, the CIA is going to know that.
Like, any more?
seriously anymore is almost impossible to get away than anything anymore
everything's listening there are ways that they can detect anything and everything
and yet they have zero clue where the hell the shit's coming from
except for the one of the sense it was coming from the sky
is what they saw and yet they tried to blame it on some kind of directional
fucking whatever well i don't know if it was like an adversary let's just pretend it is
it would come from the sky i don't think no no no it wouldn't
Okay, if it's in a different country.
We definitely don't have that technology.
Chad, I'm just saying if it was like the same thing as like nuclear weapons.
That's a weapon though.
This is a radio wave.
Yeah, it's still a weapon.
So you're going to angle a wave into a like, I don't know.
I don't believe that.
I don't know.
And into one person?
I don't know.
You know how hard that should be?
I mean, come on, man.
Hell no.
I'm just saying.
I don't believe that.
I don't believe that.
Who knows what technology people have?
Well, they don't have that.
I don't believe that, though.
I don't believe that.
But who knows?
Who knows?
I think it's aliens.
That's my final thought, and I'm sticking to it.
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