Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Highland Park Mass Shooting | Uvalde School Shooting Conspiracy Podcast

Episode Date: July 7, 2022

Why are there suddenly mass shooting happening across the country and what is to blame? Is it guns, mental health, or prescribed medications? We also discuss part 2 of the Uvalde Mass Shootings and why law enforcement did not engage the suspect and save lives.

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it's kind of like this naughty. Yeah, it can be, yeah. Well, it's a big battle. This subject is a big battle on Twitter, on Facebook, on any social media. There's two different sides of this. Some people think that guns walk out of a closet and go shoot people. And then there are some people that believe that there's something other than weapons that kill people, which are people, by the way. You know, for example, if I ever did bad on any test, I did not blame my pencil.

I mean, like, why would you ban pencils, right? Because everyone's stupid now. It's like, maybe they should have banned pencils because now half the country is, yeah. They're not doing so great. These are the multiple choicers. The ones just go down through the line and just circle whatever. Or A, B, C, D, A, C, D. I've actually done it on a test for.

I did not study whatsoever for. I made patterns on the fill in the blank. Yeah, it's freaking nuts. But anyways, guys, welcome to the podcast. We thank each and every one of you for listening. Yeah, tonight's episode is going to be something that we were debating on even talking about because, you know, the Highland Park shooting, all of these shootings, you know, there's not a whole lot to be talked about on the Highland Park shooting as far as what people don't know. I'm not saying that there is a big conspiracy behind the Highland Park shooting.

does it seem so? It seems like this guy is just psycho, which most of these guys that do this obviously are. But is there something bigger at play here? Is there something that we are given these kids, whether it be prescription medications or whatever, that is just completely turning their brains sideways? You know, there's something to be said about SSRIs. And for those of you who do not know what SSRIs are, they are basically antidepressants. And I'm, I'm I'm going to tell a story from my standpoint, and I'll wait until Al gets on. By the way, we are having Al on. Al recently lost his mother.

We talked about that in a recent podcast, but we've talked to Al quite a bit today, and he's been wanting to come on a podcast and kind of discuss, especially the school shooting thing. And so I think it's a good way for Al to kind of just escape what's going on in his life and come on and talk with us. So I commend him for being able to do it. do that and that's awesome that's something i'm one of those people too the more me and al talked about like how we handle emotions and and how we handle tragedies and all that stuff we're very similar we kind of keep stuff in um we try to do whatever we can for our own for our own

feelings to make ourselves somehow get through it and that has hurt me at times too because whereas like when my dad died five years ago or six years ago now um what was it six years I think it's been six years. You know, it was, I didn't cry a lot during that. I was deeply hurt deep down inside, not even deep down, just everywhere. And I was like holding back my emotions 24-7. And that's fine to do that, but, you know, I've noticed that there has been times I've broke down just because, you know, there's going to be, it's going to have to release at some point in time. So anyways, but I always did do things that would get my mind off things.

And I think that's something to Al, it's probably going to help him to just, deal with this situation. So we thank Al for coming on tonight. He'll be on in about 10 minutes. And actually Al and I or Al and us were going to talk about the first shooting. We did a Uvaldi police or Uvalli school shooting

episode one. This is before we knew anything about the response and law enforcement and all this. We probably need to delete that one. No, I mean, that's just what we knew then. Yeah. But this is part two of Uvaldi. So we're going to have we're going to have both sides of it. And from the Highland Park standpoint, we're going to talk about the SSRI, the prescription medication, the pharmaceutical companies, because this is what

it goes back to. And something Al and I talked about earlier, it kind of brought us on another pharmaceutical thing also that does happen to. And we may get briefly into that if we do. If we don't, that's fine. It'll be up to Al, but it's just something that, it's something we thought about, like, how sinister the pharmaceutical companies really are. They're all out for a profit.

They're all out for no matter what. I mean, if we look at what happened with the recent past three years and the fact that they just don't give a crap about, you know, trials, what's actually happening to people when they're giving out certain drugs. And then we look back on, okay, well, many of these mass shooters are on SSRIs, aka antidepressants. And whereas antidepressants are good, it levels, it's almost like, I've heard from so many people when I was on antidepressants growing up as a teenager. And it screwed me up probably more than anything did. And to this day, Chad will not take any medicine that is prescribed unless he just has to. Yeah. Not even Tylenol ibuprofen, nothing.

But it just made me in a worse mental state. I mean, I felt like, and especially for younger guys. Like, you know, I remember when Zoloft came out, that was back in 2000 and, well, I don't know, probably 1999, 2000, sometime around there. and then they had all these teenagers killing themselves. And they were like, I don't understand why they're doing this. But yet it was Zoloft. So I started kind of looking into this. And you know, you would think that having that big press thing that where all these kids were killing themselves,

that they would go back to the drawing board and say, all right, we got to fix this. But you know what I found out? Zoloft actually really hasn't changed whatsoever hardly during this time. And there's warning signs right on the prescription saying, this causes, this could cause suicidal thoughts and thoughts about killing other people right on the labels. Yeah. Well, and the worst thing is too, is like,

you know, can it take you out of depression? Yes, I guess. But you're also highs are going to be taken down as well. You're going to be kind of right there in the middle, especially for younger males. And younger males, and I'm not saying it don't happen to black, because look, let's be honest, a lot of mass shooters when it comes to schools and stuff, like this are white people.

They're white guys about, you know, 16 to 20 something. Right. And it just so happens that the same suicidal rates from antidepressants that I remember back in 99 and 2000 was, guess what, kids from like 16 to 20 something. And so now we have this situation to where instead of kids killing themselves, they're going to take people out with them for whatever reason. They pin up energy. Maybe they, maybe this is situations where they get off medication for a few days because

they don't want to take the shit no more. And even when you do that, you have even a more crazy adverse effect. I'm on antidepressants. And I'm telling you, even if I miss one day, it changes everything, like physically to me. It makes me feel lightheaded, dizzy, weird. And then there's been times when I didn't take it for a week or so. and I actually had hallucinations on this stuff. Well, you're also like very like,

you will kill somebody. Like, I mean, seriously, it's like, because it messes your brain chemistry. Yeah. And I remember those days. I absolutely 100% remember the days I was on Zoloft to be exact. And it was Zoloft is a day I'll never forget because Zoloft, that was the time I was going to kill myself.

And literally, I mean, you know, it's one of those things now. it's like I've been depressed many times in my life I've been down I've been I've been hurt I've been pissed off I've been in crazy situations to where you know I didn't know if I was going to get out of them or you know I mean we all have those times where it's like we just don't know it's like doomsday filling and I know I know the difference between how I used to fill an antidepressants when I was a teenager back then like 1617 I know that being on those antidepressants then

and then and then comparing that situation, which by the way, yes, my childhood was not fantastic because, I mean, I love my dad, but, you know, it was, it was hard growing up under what was going on in my household, even though my mom was great, she tried everything she could. I'm glad when they actually separated because it made everybody's life better. But at the same time, it was something that I felt like I needed something. I mean, and you know me. I don't take anything. But I was also to the point where I was like, I'm willing to try whatever just to like brain dead myself to get through this shit.

And so I did. And the problem, the problem that happened was is that it did bring me, I guess, not even, it didn't really bring me out of depression. It made my mind just kind of, I guess here's the problem. If you do get depressed on those medications, it's worse. And it's like you think about shit that. So say, I'm sure there's tons of. people are they getting situations where they're mad or upset or sad and they're like you know what damn it's like i i would kill myself i ain't gonna do that shit because there ain't no way i'm doing that

you know i mean right i mean there's people that say they think it but they know that you know they're just saying that but there's others yeah but then when i was on zoloft i said that and i wanted to do it it was like it was almost like a thing in my mind i was like i'm not gonna i'm not gonna not do this this time. Like, and I don't want, I don't give a damn. I was not thinking anywhere past that moment, because my brain would not let me think that way. It was just like, and I think that was, you know, whereas Zuloft and things like this can help situations, but also if you ever get in a situation like that on medication, like your limitations as far as what your brain is going to allow you to do are scary. And it allowed me to, to want to do that to the point where I didn't care.

Like whatsoever. I didn't think about consequences. sequences didn't think about the rest of my life i didn't think about any of that shit and and i specifically put that on the drugs i was on and um you know now and growing up once i got off all that shit which was really hard i had a tough time with all of that medication growing up um i don't know i've been in situations far worse than what than what that situation was and it's just like my brain off of that is as optimistic it's you know it's like look i know this is really bad that point in time you pull yourself together and you're like this is going to get better you know it it will i got to deal with this bullshit right now but this will get better i mean i think that's

the disconnect with people that are on SSRIs is that they don't always think optimistically if they get in that down situation on medication and so there are people also that are like me that can't live without it like if i don't take that medicine you're dead no it's not well the thing is not necessarily but Not necessarily you're dead. You might be dead. But I just feel like everything's falling down on me and I, you know, I have anxiety and I can't breathe. And I feel like I'm being pulled in 20,000 directions at once and I just can't cope with it. And all I want to do is just cry when I'm not on it.

But when I'm on it, it just kind of makes me even kill. But sometimes I am a little bit more even kill than I should be because I think a lot of times that's why I ignore you when you're talking to me. Okay. Anyway, there was someone, and I'll shout out Scott. I was actually talking to him on Facebook on her podcast page. He's like, one of the things is like, be nicer to Sherry. I was like, bro, you don't even understand. No, you should take Scott's advice right now, Chad.

Because sometimes I tell Chad, I'm like, you need to be on medicine. Sometimes in the morning, it's weird because I wake up in a morning, especially like if I've had like one glass of wine too many. There's something about me in the morning. I'm just agitated shit. Like, you know, and it'll be weird. And I won't get over that until I eat. And it could be a sugar thing, even though I went to a doctor recently, by the way, and they're like, oh, you are very close to diabetic or pre-diabetic.

You're at, like, the high end of it. And I think that actually might have something to do with it. But, yeah, sometimes I will be agitated. I mean, I don't know. I do get agitated. You know where I get agitated most is, like, under pressure. And you know that. Yeah.

If I'm under pressure about something or whatever, I'm just like, that's when I get agitated. And I'll, yeah, I don't know. Like when I'm doing something and you're trying to tell me or show me a YouTube video, I'm like, wait, that's when I get agitated. Shut up, bro. I'll stab you in the face. Do you not understand I'm trying to learn a new craft? Oh, my God. Anyways, so, yeah, we're going to talk about the school shooting, Yuvaldi, and we're going to talk about Highland Park.

We're going to talk about what, we're just going to run. down everything, but we're going to talk about the Second Amendment. We're going to talk about gun rights. And also, all these things that are happening should want you to go on guns more so than any time before. Right. And also, Al called us out earlier in our phone call about something I forgot to mention on survival podcast last night, which is learning maps and navigation.

So I want to bring that up as well, because we did not mention that. So, yeah. Sherry, tell your story about Highland Park. And kind of, you know, don't obviously tell where your mom lives. and all that. Well, my mom lives very close to Highland Park like five minutes. So I go visit mom every year for vacation or I used to before COVID. And that exact block where the shooting happened is where we go to eat and shop every time I go there, like five minutes from my mom's house. And it's right where my nephew happened to be at this parade at the same time. Yeah. So your nephew was at the parade during the shooting. And he heard the shots and ran like crazy. And I, I never really got to talk to him again because he had to go when I called him. But from what my mom said, he was pretty freaked out. And his mom was even more freaked out.

Like she was like frantic. You know, just thinking about because this is not something that happens in this community. This is like a well influential, yeah, influential like type people like upper class, upper scale type people that you wouldn't normally see shootings like this happen in this kind of. Like this place, my mom doesn't even lock her door. Yeah, that's not smart. Yeah, so she did say, I'm going to start locking my door because it is moving into the suburbs. Yeah. You know, it used to be downtown Chicago, the, you know, the south side of Chicago with all the gang shootings and things.

But now it's getting worse as far as moving into the suburbs where you would not ever think it would happen there. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. So Sherry's family is from Highland Park. And, you know, it was something to hit home, obviously, because your brother was there. You're a cop. And thank God my brother was there. Because my mom, not to make a story, but my stepdad is in the hospital because he broke his back. So thank God my brother was there to help my mom because she would have been freaking out while this kid was on the loose around her house. Yeah, you're exactly right. So, yeah, it was a good thing my brother was there.

All right. So, yeah, so we definitely have something that is close to home on this, especially for Sherry. Al, are you with us? Can you hear us? Yes. What is up, Al? How's it going? Oh, pretty good.

I was in. Yes. Join his Texas heat. How's it going, man? I know. You were telling me about the Texas heat earlier. I thought it was hot here, and then he started talking about, like, what was it, 120 or 118 or something?

Heed index? Heat index is almost made it up to 120. It said today. Oh, God. That is nuts. That is insane. Gosh. That's crazy.

Can you even go outside and breathe? So, Al, what is your thoughts? Just briefly. briefly. What is your thoughts on the Highland Park shooting? I mean, I know you've been going through a lot, but obviously you've heard about it. What are your thoughts on this guy? And as I was telling everybody before, we're going to get into the Uvaldi thing in the second half of this. But what are your thoughts on the Highland Park deal? Man, when I first heard about it, I had just woken up. I'm like somebody did a shooting at a parade with kids. Yeah.

And I'm like, what the hell is wrong with people? Yeah, it's nice. And I'm like, my thoughts, man, I'm like, wow, like, why? What's the reason behind it? There's no reason to shoot at people in the crowd at a parade for no reason. What's the reason behind it? You want to hurt somebody? Somebody treat you wrong?

Like, why? Like, why? Yeah, we were just talking about on the podcast that I used to be in. on SSRIs or antidepressants. Sherry's on it currently. And it's one of those things that, you know, can flip your mind. You know, although, you know, pharmaceutical medication as far as antidepressants, they are very beneficial to some people.

But as I was saying, if you get on, if you get into depression with those, your ability for, I guess, reckoning with yourself or consequences, or all that stuff can go out the window very fast when you have a medication that is affecting the way you think about things. And it sounds like this guy, from what we're hearing, was on antidepressant medication. This guy basically gave warning signs over and over again, you know, on his social media and on everything else.

But it's one of the things I was thinking about. I was like, this guy talked about killing or whatever, right? I mean, you know, he was a white rapper. dude. But I mean, do you know how many fricking rappers out there talk about killing other people in their rap songs? It's a lot. Like, it's almost every other rap song. Exactly. So, whereas, yes, the signs may have been missed,

how are you going to stop? Like, I mean, are you going to go arrest every rapper that talks about killing someone in their rap songs? Because you're going to have to basically go arrest every rapper on the planet. For sure. What is the solution, do you think, as far as I mean, do you think that, you know, we were talking earlier with your mom's, you know, cancer history. And we were talking about the medication and the pharmaceutical industry. I mean, when I was, when I was, as I was saying earlier, when I was on medications when I was 16, 17 years old, it was known then that Zoloft was appeared to cause kids to kill ourselves.

Yeah. And yet they still kept it on the market and is still on the market today. It's all about money And so it goes back to kind of the cancer thing and all that stuff, man Pharmaceutical companies are only after money. Do you not think? Oh, yeah, for sure. Just watching how much my mom went through with her issue with the cancer

and just how she had to apply for all these, I guess, loans, grants where you want to call home to get help. And then all of a sudden we had that, boom, they have a cure for it. not a cure for cancer that people are actually dying from and need help with. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. So this guy, what was his name, Cremo? Robert Cremo.

And we'll go over, we'll kind of go over a little bit of the timeline of how this stuff happened. The dude dressed like a girl. Yeah, but. Yeah, I saw that. That's crazy. Which, you know, I mean, he looks like he should have been dressing like a girl. He looks like a hobbit to me. Or like the Lord of the Kings type kids or the, you know, a Hobbit.

Well, okay, so exactly how we're talking about this right now is probably one of the reasons why he did this. I mean, because I guarantee he was bullied. He probably was. He can't, I mean, you know, his dad ran for office as a Republican, I believe. Which, I mean, you know, there's a big battle on social media right now about whether he was Antifa or whether he was a Trump supporter. Yeah, because he was at both. I'm just telling you, I've never seen a dude look like him. That's a Trump supporter.

Well, he was there, and he looked like Waldo. I don't understand why this Pops has to play in everything, you know. Yeah, I know. If a person is going to have an issue, they're going to have an issue regardless. It doesn't have to be all political wise, you know. Yeah, you're right. But before this even happened, in 2019, the police were called out to his house twice. One time was for him saying he was going to kill everything.

everyone and he had like 16 knives and daggers all through his room and they compensated them but then they got them back the next day because the dad said they belonged to him yeah i mean don't i just don't get that well so there were five people that were pronounced dead at the scene and the sixth person died at the hospital and there were officially seven people that died so there were seven people that had been identified as katherine goldstein she was 64 uh irena mccarthy she was 35 Kevin McCarthy, 37, Jacqueline, Sondheim, 63, Steven Strauss, 88, Nicholas Toledo, Zara Goza was 78, and Eduardo Yuvaldo was 69. And I, there's an image going around of this little orphan kid that was roaming around the streets of Highland Park. And there was some family that took him in.

And they posted on social media if anybody knows his family. let us know he was lost in the in the thing and i don't know but i mean irina marina mccarthy 35 and kevin mccarthy that's probably who it is yeah they're about that age yeah his parents were both killed and somehow he survived yeah his parents were both killed he survived and was roaming the streets asking for his mommy and daddy where his mom and dad is that's that's horrible that is sad and he was what like three four four somewhere around there yeah three four five he's young he is young um so Anyways, we want to make sure that the gravity of the situation is, is, you know, what it is. And school shootings and mass shootings of any kind are terrible.

Well, let me ask you guys a question. With all this, I mean, everybody pretty much knows what happened, what the timelines are. You know, he obviously planned this out for weeks. He has had emotions of killing himself and killing others before. after his guns were confiscated, I mean, the knives were confiscated, his dad went to go help him buy guns. And he bought like six guns in the last year. Two of them were the automatic rifles and several other were handguns. Do you think, like what do you think the parents roll in all this? Do you think they should be responsible for any of this?

I believe that they should be held some kind of accountability and knowing their, child's past mental health issues that they know what he's capable of doing so they should be held responsible at least for aiding him to buying guns knowing that he was mentally unstable yeah I mean you're right I mean as far as parents go

this is where parents should have stepped up in this situation but it's like where you know and keep in mind I'm one million percent pro gun for any law Biden citizen. And technically, up until this incident, he was a law of Biden citizen. But when they

took away the daggers and the knives, they did report it to the state police, but they somehow they did not flag him for anything. Don't you think that should be a flag right there? Well, you're kind of talking about a red flag law. Yeah. Is what this is what this whole

thing is coming to. If he's already threatened to kill himself and then kill everyone, and they took all these, you know, not just little pocket knives, but daggers away from him. I think they missed out on something here. And it's obviously he had a mental issue or some kind of mental compatibility or something was wrong with him for him, for them to say, take everything away, then go through all the process they were doing. But once again, they gave them medicine to try and feed that problem instead of actually

sitting down and trying to listen and figure out what the problem truly is. Okay, so here's my thoughts to what your question is, Sherry. And this is tough for me because it's one of those things that, you know, okay, we got to go to the red flag laws, which are trying to implement nationwide. It was actually just passed through the Biden administration. Red flag laws have gotten innocent people killed already. because of And look, here's the problem

on red flag laws. There's no due process, right? So with a red flag law, it basically states that if someone or anyone reports you as a threat or a hazard to society, for whatever reason, doesn't matter. The law enforcement

or whoever, government entity, in your state, city, or federally, can come and take your weapons without any due process, meaning any court hearing, any anything. And then you, therefore, have to go and hire attorneys spend a ass ton of money

to be able to prove that you are not whatever the red flag law was saying why your gun should be taken. And so there is a fine line here as far as where do we need to make sure that we are taking steps to keep people safe

and how does that law such as the red flag law not be abused? Because for example, you break up with your girlfriend, right? She knows you're an avid gun owner And she wants to go and say, well, you know what? He threatened me or whatever. Okay, well, according to Red Flag Law, whether you did or didn't,

they're coming to get all of your guns, and you're not going to have any due process to have a trial or anything else. There is no... This country was built on innocent until proven guilty. But it's not like that anymore. You're guilty until proven innocent. Well, that's what it's going towards. So we've got to fight this fine line.

Yeah, but I'm saying, though, not even the red flag thing. But that is a red flag. But if they already confiscated the knives, then he goes three days later and buys guns. Like, there's got to be a something, a stopping point somehow from letting somebody purchase that that has, you know, there's reports of them. Well, there should have been something in the system, yes. That should have at least prevented him from buying guns. Exactly. Yeah.

I would agree with that. But then it comes down to. Because, I mean, if anyone is suicidal or if there was any, anyone saying, I'm going to go and kill, you know, all these people at this store because I don't like them. And the police are called and it's reported in on a report. Then at that point, I think there should be something said that, you know, you cannot purchase a gun because this is on, you know, law enforcement reports or whatever. Something's got to be done to that extent. Not necessarily taking weapons away because hearsay.

I mean, it has to be something like where law enforcement is. is right there. They see it happening, you know. Yeah. Yeah. No, I agree. It's just going to be a fine line of kind of how you do that. And the bad thing about it is, is that, you know, we are a nation of rights,

but at the same time, you have to figure out a way to identify the people that are through threats without impeding on people that are not. And unfortunately, red flag laws and things like this give people the opportunity to screw over someone else based on anything without due process, without a court hearing. Al, there's a lot of loud noise from your phone. I don't know what that sounds is. It was a wind from outside.

I got you, I got you. But yeah, without due process. And that is my concern with red flag laws. But like you said, you know, if you go to a house and say that he says he's going to kill himself or his parents, especially parents say this or whatever the case may be, then that least needs to go into the system. And how did the parents say that they didn't see any warning signals or anything wrong with them when they have already called the police several times to come out because he was suicidal and wanted to kill other people? How do you say that your kid is normal after you call the police on him? And they said he's completely normal. Exactly. So that right there should have caused a red flag or a some kind of alert that this person doesn't need to have a gun.

Right. And then dad goes and helps him buy guns. And he, you know, he did make a statement saying that he feels no responsibility whatsoever because they did go through a check, you know, a mental check, whatever. He's like, I don't know how they do that, but they either accept you or they declined you. and he said they accepted my son so it's on them well the problem no it's not but that's the thing i mean they're trying to Biden wants to end the immunity for gun owners i mean uh gun manufacturers basically saying basically saying that if someone goes and kill someone with a gun that you manufactured you're responsible and you can be sued and and and the only reason they want to do this is because they want to get rid of gun manufacturers um it is it's an undercut way of taking away guns because they're going to get sued to hell him back to where they can't afford anything anymore. And the unfortunate thing is, it's not the gun manufacturer's fault. But in this

circumstance, I think that the dad has some kind of responsibility in this situation. The dad has, he does have some kind of responsibility. Because he went taking his son to get a gun, well knowing that he was suicidal, and he has threatened to kill people in the past. Exactly. And he's on Zoloft. And a gun does not kill a person. A person that has the gun shoots, aims, and pulls the trigger. It's the person that kills another person. Yeah.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Unfortunately, though, you know, for example, there's been many people that have been involved in mass shootings that had zero warning signs before. Mm-hmm. I mean, and so, you know, to that degree, it's like, okay, well, this person had zero warning signs, and yet he went and killed 28 people. Mm-hmm.

You know, and unfortunately the problem with this whole situation with guns is is that it's being used politically. Exactly. When you use it politically, you're never going to fix the problem. Even an hour after this happened, they were already out there preaching, we've got to get away with guns. You know, our forefathers had, were they muskets, not automatic weapons and all this? But if they did have, if they could have automatic weapons, they would have. I had them. Yeah.

It was just technology. It wasn't their fault. They didn't have automatic weapons. Trust me, the 1776 and our battle for our independence would have been a lot faster if we would have automatic. But they're not automatic weapons. They're semi-automatic weapons and their AR-15s, which are literally there's no difference other than 30-round clips. And, by the way, you can have 30-round clips in handguns. But there's no difference.

I mean, most of them shoot 45 rounds, even AR-15. I mean, people say, oh, semi-automatic assault rifle. Well, guess what? You can get a handgun, 45 caliber with an extended mag that will do just as much damage. May not be as accurate, but just as much damage. Oh, yeah. As an AR-15. So, you know, the problem is that the Democrats will use this as we want to get rid of guns.

Republicans are going to have to fight it on the other side. They have to because... On the mental illness. No, but no, they're just going to fight it, period. Because it doesn't matter. I'm talking about in these circumstances where we're having young white men go up and shoot schools out and shoot up parades and all this. You know, the left are saying get rid of the guns. The right are saying we got to deal with mental illness.

And there is a lot of mental illness out here. Well, listen to this. So we're going to go into this briefly because as you just said, young white men to go a mass shoot, right? Well, I'm just saying statistically. Yeah, but listen. I'm not saying the shootings. down in Chicago. We have to talk about that.

I know, but I'm saying that these kids are out to get people to harm people. So where's the Chicago gangbangers? Yeah, but they're trying to harm each other. No, they're trying to harm family members, kids. They don't give a damn. They have no regard to life whatsoever. And the reality is that we had this conversation with a friend of ours. Well, what is a mass shooting?

For whatever reason, she did not agree that a mass shooting had anything to do with all the shootings that happened in Chicago. For example, how many people were killed in Chicago? outside of, and this is July 4th weekend outside of, no, it wasn't 60 people killed, there were like 7 or 8 people killed in Chicago outside of the Highland Park shooting, right? And there were 68 people shot.

So, and this is just, and this is every weekend in Chicago. And so we want to talk about Chicago, which they also call Shyrak. And don't they have the strictest gun laws ever out of any other states? Chicago does. And Illinois

has like the eighth strictest gun law of state. but Chicago City itself has one of the strictest gun laws in the country. And that's not helping, obviously. But we're just talking about Chicago. You've got to start talking about, look at murder rates in St. Louis, and look at murder rates in Minneapolis. Look at murder rates in New York City. Look at how these people are murdered.

And by the way, also look at... Louisiana. Yeah, I mean, Baton Rouge is a really tough city. New Orleans, huge murder city. Shreport. Even Birmingham, Birmingham, Alabama, hardcore freaking murders. all the time.

Wow, I didn't know that. Oh yeah, Birmingham, Alabama. And the thing about all this shit is, is that when I was having this conversation with our friend, which just happens to be, she's definitely a liberal, she was like, oh, no, you cannot compare mass, no. She said, you cannot compare gang shootings where five people get killed in Chicago or whatever as a mass shooting. Well, how is that not a mass shooting?

Especially if, say, they kill two gang members and then they kill three other people that have nothing to do with the situation, nor do. do they care? That's a mass shooting. It is. What is the definition of a mass shooting? I'm just curious. Yeah, that is true.

You were right. That is a mass shooting when they are out there, you know, trying to kill each other and they're killing innocent kids and, you know, innocent people in the process of trying to kill each other. Mass shooting, let's see. I put mass shooting definition. They don't want to define this for some reason because they probably don't. Okay.

There is a lack of consensus. on how to define a mass shooting. Most terms define a minimum of three victims of gun violence. Okay. So that is technically a mass shooting. But look, I don't want people to tell me that a Chicago shooting where they kill 20 people in a weekend is not a mass shooting. Especially if there are three or more victims in one sitting. And that happens all the time.

Does no one watch freaking 48 hours or whatever the case? I do. Well, I know you freaking do. There's non-stop. Al called me earlier. He's like, what are y'all doing? I was like, well, Sherry's watching murder, as usual. She knows.

Yeah, I watched all those shows. Like, Discovery Plus, they are. They are. Yeah, but at least she ain't going to mass shoot. She just killed me. She'll just be considered a murderer, not a mass murderer. But anyway, so my point is that mass, okay, look, look how they blew this Highland thing up, right? And it should be, because

there are innocent people that died. But there are innocent people that die every day at the hands of people that don't give a damn about life, including in Chicago and St. Louis and all these other places, Los Angeles and New York. Why are they not highlighting Chicago? Chicago has more... Do you know that Chicago

over the past, I think it's been like seven years now, on a average weekly basis, they have had more people killed than in the Afghanistan war. on a weekly basis. That's why they call it Shirek.

There were times during the height of the Iraq war that there were more people dying in Chicago than in Iraq. That's crazy. And yet no one cares about that. And can anyone guess why no one cares about the shootings that happened? No, just take a guess. That's what I'm guessing.

Sure, you're going to have a guess and Al's going to have a guess. My guess is because the reason why they don't, I know what you're going to say, but my reasoning is because it happens so often. It's over and over. It's kind of like this. It's like the Ukraine-Russian War. At first, everybody was so excited about it.

They're reading everything. We're on Twitter. We're talking about it. Like everybody's like, oh, my God, can you believe this? Did you see this girl get shot? Blah, blah, blah, blah. But as time goes, it's not as newsworthy because it's still happening over. Now they're what, in three months in or two months in or something?

No, they're like five months in. Yeah, and it's not as like front-page news as it was in the way. beginning. Same with the Chicago shootings, I think, down there is, and I think it's not front page, probably, because the media is biased, whatever. Nope, you're still wrong, but. Okay, well, that's my guess. But how do you know you're right, Chad? Because I, well, I don't know that I'm right. I'm going to give you my guess too. Okay, well, you said my guess was wrong. Well, I think it's wrong. Because my opinion is different than yours, so therefore you're wrong.

My opinion's not wrong. All right, Al. My is going to be wrong then probably. Al, you're already wrong. I'm already wrong. Damn it. All right, I'm just kidding. Al, go ahead. You're right, so is Sherry.

We're all right. We're all right. We're Democrats. We're all right. Oh, damn. Oh, hell, no. Well, man, honestly, I think politics play a role in that down there. Like he said, Chicago is one of the most strictest city.

for guns, right? If I'm not mistaken, correct? Mm-hmm. And two, they don't want to, they don't want to have their point proven. You don't have to have guns

to have a lot of killings. That's what I think. Okay. Well, here's my thought is that 90% of guns used in all these murders in Chicago are not legal weapons. Oh, that could be.

Oh. Which means they're, they're all. either ghost guns or guns that are not bought legally. Most of them are stolen. And that's why they can't report it because they're trying to get rid of them. But it also takes a narrative away of that. If you get rid of guns for law Biden citizens, then it's going to go away.

But it's not because then that would completely disprove the Chicago thing. None of them go to the gun store. Gang bangers that have multiple felonies do not go to the gun store and buy weapons. They want to highlight everyone that is able to go to a gun store and buy a weapon. But they don't want to highlight anybody that kills all these people with illegal weapons, which is, by the way, like, 80% of gun violence is illegal weapons. Exactly. Yeah, and by taking away guns from people that go and buy them legally, you know, that's all

it's doing is screwing us. But to both of your points, yeah, I mean, y'all are both, look, we're all right. Thank you. There are no winners, everyone's a winner. Yay! There is no last place anymore because, you know, we're awoke and, you know. We're awoke. Remember, we can't spell awake.

That's how you know that you're not awake. If you can't even spell it. All right. So listen, let's get on to the Uvaldi thing because we got to talk about us. We're 45 minutes in. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Most definitely.

So there's a new timeline, and I'm going to go over to timeline briefly, but Uvaldi, Texas, a new report released Wednesday is providing, oh, sorry, that was loud, is providing more insight into exactly what happened on May 24th. So the report was published by Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Team, or alert, as they're called. They basically provide somewhat mirrors of the timeline provided by Texas Department of Public Safety. And several days after the mass shooting, but gives additional information and more in-depth look at what exactly took place. So it's a combination of internal school surveillance, video footage from nearby funeral home, body-worn cameras, radio logs, officer statements, and interviews. And so 1127, a female teacher exits to exterior.

your door in the west hall propping the door open with a rock to prevent it from closing behind her 1128 the suspect becomes involved in a motor vehicle crash in the dry canal near elementary school two people from a nearby business approached a crash scene at 1129 the suspect engaged them both with a rifle the two people were able to flee back to the business unharmed and called 911 1129 female one which is the which is the teacher the door proper we have returns through the west entry deliberately kicking the rock from the door jam, female one pulls the door shut and continues to look out of the exterior door as she is frantically speaking on herself on.

Female one attempts to enter a door on the south side of the west hallway, only to find it locked. Female one knocked on the door and it was eventually answered by another female. Female 2. Female 1 appears to advise female 2 of the emergency, whereupon female 2 re-enters her room and secures the door. female one moves into a room closet or sorry closest to the exit on the north side of the west hallway female one re-enters the hallway numerous times yelling down the hall for students to get into their classrooms

at 1130 to suspect wearing dark clothing and carrying a bag left the trash scene and climbed or crashing and climbed a chain link fence onto the elementary school property the suspect walked deliberately across the open grounds between the fence and the teacher's parking lot The suspect moved towards the school buildings on the westmost side of the campus, although a defect that might have been caused by a bullet was located on a building south of the affected structure. It could not be substantiated at this time that any rounds were fired at a teacher and children on the playground at the time of the crash. 1131, the suspect is captured on video between cars shooting. 1131, a Uvaldi consolidated independent school district police officer drives through the Westgate near the crash site and across the field to the south side of the affected building.

The suspect reached the west side at 1132 of the teacher's parking lot and he began to fire through windows into the westmost rooms prior to enter in the building. Prior to the suspect's entry into the building at 1133, according to statements, a Uvaldi police officer on scene at the crash site observed the suspect carrying a rifle outside of the west hall entry. The officer armed the rifle asked his supervisor for permission to shoot the suspect. However, the supervisor either did not. hear or responded too late. The officer turned to get confirmation from his supervisor and when he turned back to address a suspect, he had entered the west hallway unabated. 1133, the suspect

entered the school from the exterior door in the west hall while holding a rifle. The suspect looked around the hallway and then continued to walk down the west hallway before turning right. The suspect walked past a series of rooms with closed doors and a firewall break before making his way into room 1111 and 112. 1133 upon reaching rooms 111112, the suspect fired a series of series of rounds from the hallway in the direction of classrooms 1111 and 112. 1133, 32, a suspect may enter into what appears to be classroom 11. Immediately children's screams could be heard along with numerous gunshots in the room. The rate of fire was initially very rapid, then slowed lastly only a few seconds.

So a few seconds later, the suspect backed out of what appears to be room 111 into the south hallway. Suspect made a slight turn to what appears to be his left and fires a series of rounds from the into classroom 112. 1135, two minutes later, all three Uvaldi Police Department officers entered the structure through the west door into the west hallway. These officers were equipped with a following, one with external armor and two with concealable body armor, two rifles and three pistols. 1136, four officers entered a south hallway through the south door closest to the suspect. It's not clear what the equipment these officers had with them. 1136 of three, four more officers entered a west hallway through the west door. Three of these officers were from the UPD and one was from the Uvaldi,

consolidated independent school district police department. They were equipped with three external body cameras or carriers, so it was basically plate carriers, and one with conciliable body armor and pistols. It did not appear that any of the officers were in possession of breaching tools. 1136, the suspect re-enters in what appears to be a classroom 111 and continues to fire, what is an estimated to be over 100 rounds. During the shooting, the sounds of children screaming and crying could be heard.

According to audio analysis, obviously from probably cameras. 1136, 7 officers were in the west hallway and 4 officers in the south hallway. As the last shots from the initial barrage from the suspect were fired. 1136, 10, which is a few seconds later, officers in a west and south hallway advanced to rooms 11112. As the officers entered the thresholds of room 11 and 112, they were fired upon by the suspect who was in room 1111. So between 1137, 0 and 113710, gunfire drove the officers away from the threshold. to room 1111 and back to the west and south hallways prior to either team making contact

with room 11112. 1138, the suspect concludes firing, according to the audio estimates, 11 rounds were fired. Investigators advised that the two officers were injured by building material fragments caused by suspects rounds passing through the walls. Officers generally remained at the intersection of the west and south hallway and in the south entrance. 1138 officers on scene, but outside of the hallway, call for additional assistance to include a tactical team. 113837, an officer outside the hallway advisor of suspects is contained.

The suspect fires one round according to audio estimates. 1141 dispatch, dispatch asked via radio if the door was locked. A UPD officer responds, I am not sure, but we have a hooligan to break it. 1144, four minutes later, suspect fires one more round according to audio estimates. 1148, four minutes later, a U.S. ISDPD officer enters through West hallway door and states, says she is shot referring to his wife. He is escorted out of the building. 1151, law enforcement from various agencies

including UPD, USS, CID, PD, Uvaldi, Sheriff's Farm Marshal, Constable, Defaults, Southwest Texas, junior college police, and the United States Border Patrol have arrived on the scene. And they are moving inside and out to evaluate the situation. 1152, the first ballistic shield entered the west hallway. 1153, Texas Department of Public Safety, special agent arrived at the perimeter

and was advised to man the perimeter. other officer makes a comment about three, about there being kids still in the building. The DPS special agent advised if there is, then they just need to go in. 1156, the DPS special agent states there are still kids over here, so I'm getting the kids out. 1203, a second ballistic shield arrives and at 1204 to a third shield arrives on the scene in the west hallway. 1206, UPDRL notes that no command post is set up and advised bodies needed to be, bodies needed to be, to keep parents out. 12-10 officers in the West hallway begin passing out and donning gas mask, which is strange.

Officers in the West hallway begin passing out and donning gas mask. 1214 CS gas canisters and launcher deliverable varieties are brought in. Okay. So let me, let me. They're going to try to gas him out and gas the kids too. No, but this says, this says that 1210 officers in the West hallway begin passing out. The gas masks. Oh, okay.

Okay. I thought they were saying, shit. I was like, what? Ding dong. Anyways, okay. CS gas. Yeah, I read that wrong. Yeah, they were passing out gas messages because they were going to try to gas the guy.

Okay. 1214, CS gas canters and launcher and deliver varieties are brought in. That's 1214. 1215. Dispatchers had received numerous 911 calls from a child explaining that there were several children and one of us, her teacher, deceased, and another teacher hurt in the room on one 1215 and it appears tactical team members of United States

Border Patrol teams arrive and assist fortifying the law enforcement positions. 1220 a fourth ballistic shield arrives in the west hallway. 1221, four shots are fired by the suspect from within one of the two classrooms. 1221, 22, board attack members move a set

of double doors of 36 inches of rooms 1111-11 112 bring in two ballistic shields. However, no assault on the rooms was conducted. 1223, BP medical teams began setting up medical triage in the east hallway from the classrooms. They had numerous backboards, medical kits, a defibrillator, as well as bleeding control supplies, 1221 to 1234. A continuous conversation takes place in the South hallway involving the U.S.

or, sorry, UCISD, PD chief Ariando and UPD officer discussing tactical options and considerations, including snipers, windows, and how to get in the classroom. They also discussed who has the keys, testing keys, and the probability of doors. doors being locked and if the kids and teachers are dying or dead. 1235 now. This is 15 minutes later. Border Patrol agents arrive in the West hallway with the first observed breaching tool, a hooligan or halogen tool.

1237 to 1247, 1237, U.S. or sorry, UC ISDPD Chief Aeronado attempts to negotiate with the suspect speaking in English and Spanish. The chief also calls someone to try to look into the windows from outside. 1246. Aronado exclaims, if y'all are ready to do it, you do it, but you should distract him out the window. 1247, Chief Arayano states, he's going in, he's going in, tell those guys in the West that they're going in, let him know. 1247-57, a U.S.O. deputy arrives at a West hallway with a sledgehammer.

1250, an ad hoc team assaults room 11, neutralizing the suspect. The suspect had concealed himself in a book closet. He then emerged when the team made entry. Footage showed officers frantically carrying the dead and injured to, casualty collection point in the east hallway. Some law enforcement officers rush casualties directly through the exterior door and the NOS hallway. It is unknown if medical personnel were staged nearby for direct patient handoff.

So 1250, okay, 1250 is when they finally killed him, and 1130 is when this started. Now, it's an hour in 20 minutes. An hour and 20 minutes, they had time to do something. There was a lot of lives lost due to a lot of... police errors in this shooting. Incompetence. Yeah, total incompetence. Like, they saw this guy running in the parking lot with a gun and had already shot at people.

Yeah. Why didn't they take them out then? Listen, I don't know how I want to say this because I don't want to be Alex Jones on this shit. But listen, what I will say is, Al, you were on our first episode of the Yuvaldi shooting when we didn't know a lot. I mean, we knew what happened and, you know, whatever. and that's one of the reasons we want to do this one. But what... I mean, isn't it just strange

how everything possible that could have worked out for the shooting suspect worked out perfectly? Yes. Oh, yeah. From 1130 to 1250, this dude could have killed 20 other classrooms if he wanted to. Okay, let me tell you this.

I bet you don't know this. right here. I listened to a guy called Rick Roberts in the DFW area registration but they had a breaking report yesterday that they could have stopped the

shooting before it even happened. There was two officers on site. One was the leading officer and one was a secondary officer had his sights on target on the shooter. He asked

permission for the leading officer to shoot the target. And he said in his report, whenever he asked for permission, he turned and looked at him, he turned back. He was already inside the school. Yeah. So I'm like, whoa, that's a big red flag right there. Well, here's my biggest red flag. You know, the, okay. So number one, the city was the city of Uvaldi.

and other agencies, I don't know if you remember or have heard this, but the Texas Department of Public Safety, they had been trying to investigate this entire thing. And one of the things that they came out with, the Department of Public Safety said, Yuvaldi and the agencies that responded would not cooperate with us. Like when we asked them questions on what the hell happened here,

how did this thing happen? Why they would not even respond to any of their messages, any of their inquiries to nothing. No one had answers for nothing. It was like, okay, whatever it happened. Go on. But you know what the thing is? It is, this whole thing is command structure.

You know, if you know how law enforcement works, you know that you can't do anything without command structure. And if your command structure is telling you not to do this, not to do this continually, for this is an hour and 20 minutes. Is that an hour 1130 to 1250? Yeah. Yep. An hour and 20 minutes when you're in a freaking school.

In the hallway where you hear him killing teachers and kids. And the sad thing, a father came through and killed him without any issues at all. Now, see, I don't know if that is, I've heard that story. I don't know if that is accurate. it, but I don't know. I'm just going by what they said off the news, the dad was getting a haircut, and he got a text from his daughter. Yeah, he was an off-duty cop or something. His wife was a teacher.

Yeah. Yeah. And he had just been there that morning for their awards program. Yeah. But listen, I just think the whole thing was, it was almost like someone had had power over whoever the command staff was there. that day. It was almost... There's so many different departments trying to work together.

There was nobody. There was nobody in charge of doing this. Yvaldi was in charge of it forever. But even the case, I'm just saying if I was a cop in that hall and I hear kids screaming and dying and teachers dying, I would have to go against the command and go in there and do something. Absolutely. Like the parents in the parking lot, they were begging these cops.

Please go save our children. Do something. They were watching them out in the parking lot for an hour while their kids are being shot up, doing nothing. And even the parents are trying to go into. Yes, the parents were arresting parents. They were arresting parents, throwing them on the ground. One guy had his, I saw in the video, he had his knee on the lady's back with her being handcuffed. He told them to shut up.

We know what we're doing. I'm like, dude. You don't, though. You don't know what you're doing. But maybe, listen, here's my thing. This is my narrative on this. And I don't ever say, we've never done a Sandy Hook thing. We've never done any of that.

But it just sounds like someone in command was compromised to me. Oh yeah, for sure, for sure. And it almost sounds like someone knew this was going to happen and this thing was compromised. And guess what? As soon as this shit happened, they had legislation in the house already, ready to go. They passed this shit without any questions. it sparked the whole new gun debate and they sparked everything else

I mean look I'm not trying to be like because this is a conspiracy theory what I'm saying but what I am saying is everything worked out too damn well for the shooter and everything was literally the absolute opposite of what you do in law enforcement in the active shooters

It almost seemed like it was a closed door behind the operation what could have been very well- It's like a forward-blown operation to pass

legislation for guns and try and bring up the conversation again because everything worked out for it like you said I mean every little details you look at it is wrong wrong wrong yeah they did everything wrong almost intentionally like they were so negligent

like they should probably being bringing up charges against the cops the police well they would have to bring up charges probably against command staff. Yeah. Because, I mean, that's unfortunate. Because they were at fault for losing all these children. Look, if I'm in a hallway, and I hate to say, I mean, this is 100, I'm not just talking

out of my ass, I'm literally saying, if I go in this hallway and I know there's a dude down there and we're not, we're sitting here not doing a damn thing, we're waiting on. Did you notice in that timeline? We're waiting for you. We got one shield. Oh, now we got two shields. Yeah, now we got four. Oh, now we got three.

Oh, now we got four. How many are you freaking waiting on? Exactly. Number one, I wouldn't wait on a damn shield. Which a shields didn't come until 12, and he entered at 1130. Yeah, listen, if I know where this shooting's from, what I would have done, I would have went to... They knew what room it was in. Well, they knew what room.

And he had shot out of this room while they were there. So they knew where it was. In the book closet, yeah. They knew where it was. So what you could have done was you could have went in. to this doorway. I mean, look, I mean, it sounds crazy. Went in this doorway with your gun and shot up at a ceiling, right? And to draw him out to see where he's at.

And you stand right by the door and listen, you know. But regardless, I would have been there and I would have done, if I died, I freaking died. Yeah, but you cannot just sit there and listen to children and screaming and losing their lives waiting for a command to say yes. There's no way. And then you know that officers do training. for situations like this

Absolutely they do And you know there's like a one, two, three strategic steps to do all of this To get in there And take out the attacker Take out the aggressor theirs Something just doesn't seem right about that man Well listen I'll put it this way man

I you know this is one of those things That like people listen to this And look there's going to be people that listen to this podcast That are not our normal listeners Yeah But what I will say is that to this degree, we might think of something like that as, like, what I'm saying is, like, how everything worked out perfectly for him. Could command staff have been compromised during this, whether it be from the deep state, whatever the hell is behind why America is literally destroying itself from inside right now, or doing everything we can to destroy ourselves? I mean, for example, this has nothing to do with school shooting, but I just give you an example.

Joe Biden, his administration today, yesterday, sent out shit tons of, I think it was millions of barrels, or was it? Oh, yeah, from our strategic reserve. Yeah, our freaking emergency fuel supply to China and Europe, and yet our own gas supply is screwed. Yeah. So it's like, at what point does this become an enemy? And it was an article I was reading, is like, is this becoming an enemy within? Because it is, it is an enemy within? And now they're talking, I don't know if you saw it too.

They're also talking about giving some of our barrels of all to the countries in NATO. Yeah, they already are. Effective supplies. Yeah, they're doing it. I was like, what? But yet we cannot open our own pipelines and make our own gas. We've shut our pipelines down. And we're using our reserves down.

Directly hurting us. Where we could open our pipelines tomorrow and settle this thing on our own, independently, without anybody else's help. only are we shutting our pipelines down, we're telling other countries to maximize their output. Yeah. It's as if it's like, oh, well, if the United States don't do it, then, you know, the ozone layer will be more protected. Yeah, it's going to be better.

Even though other countries will double their refineries in order to support us. They're going to be making all the money, but they're still causing the pollution. Who's making all the money is the politicians in the New World Order. That's who's fucking making the money. Yeah. But listen. What I will tell you is, is that we talk about that crazy shit, like, an enemy from within.

How, how, like, there's no way anyone could be behind some crazy shit like this. But listen, if any of you have listened to the JFK podcast or know anything about the JFK podcast, you should all know that the government was behind that 100%. If you listen, if you know about Martin Luther King's death, you should know beyond any reasonable doubt about that, that the government literally killed Martin Luther King. I mean, there was a court hearing that established after four. weeks of testimony that the government was responsible for his death. Oh yeah.

It was because he was bringing people together. That was what the government didn't want. And like you said on the other podcast, divide and conquer. That's what they want to do. Divide and conquer. Yes. And so if you don't have mass shootings and you don't have these things, you can't push narratives.

And look, I'm not saying that I'm just letting you listeners take what the hell you want to from this. But what I am telling you is, is that everything. worked out absolutely 100% perfectly for this shooter. The command staff literally did everything wrong. They made sure the officers

did not go in and gave this guy the maximum amount of opportunity to kill as many people as he could. That's what they did. Regardless. I mean, that is what they did. Oh, yeah, for sure. And yet, you're not going to question that? You're not going to, or are you

going to say like, oh, there's no way that there's some sinister act behind this. Look at what happened in the past three years. Look at JFK. Look at Friggin' Look at Operation Northwoods, which was the government, no, yeah, but yeah, it was the government wanting to

create terrorist attacks in the United States and kill our own people and blame it on Cuba. And blame it in Cuba, yeah. And yet you think that our government now is more holy than the government back then? Are you shitting me? Listen, this government is way worse. Since we really started investigating

things and doing the podcast, I would never in a million years, four years, ago think that our government would actually kill people on purpose for the benefit of the government. I never in a million years thought that would happen. But boy, my eyes have been wide open now, and I see it, and I know it, and I believe it. And people can call me crazy if they want to, but I'm not crazy. I know what's happening. People, look, government might call you crazy. Yeah. And you know, the crazy deal, man, we are still living in Operation Mockingbird to this day. People don't realize it.

Explain that. Okay, well, Operation Machenberg is. It's pretty much they take over the news media, and they try and propagandaize everybody into believing the government's agenda. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, and they started this back in the day. When was Project Markenberg started? 19. Yeah, it was back in the day.

I just can't, I can't remember. And it was kind of near... And they used the media to make the people believe the government? Yeah, absolutely. They're absolutely doing it now. They started in the late 40s and fitches, but... Yeah, that's what I thought. It was back in the day.

What were they wanting to you guys know? But I think Operation Mockenbird really came around, especially after JFK. Yep. I mean, that's when they pushed it hardcore. Oh, yeah. Pretty much right there, when they were trying to do that, the Operation Northwoods and then that's pretty much how

Operation Mocking Markenberg pretty much came came back to light Yeah And then it's taken being going on to this day Yeah it's nuts man I Have you guys ever thought about this

You ever remember that movie The Hunger Games? Yeah It's almost like It's almost like we're actually living In real life Hunger Games right now It's gonna be Probably will be

Well, and we could go another level and say we are in Hunger Games, and this is actually a simulation, and we're not really here, but we are here. Yeah, it's nuts. And then, yeah, it's crazy, man, how this world is turning out. So to put up, so to kind of wrap up this, we have, and I want to clarify and make sure everyone understands this, these shootings happened, okay? But what I am saying is, real, real people died. We have to know why. And I think that's the big question. And look, the Highland Park thing, I doubt this kid was employed by Deep State.

No. He's psycho. He did this on his own. And I'm also wondering if in his circumstances, it could have been a hate crime. Because in this area, it's a heavy population of Jewish people. And in some of his videos, he showed spectators of a mass murder with, Yama Khaz and the Star of David on their shirt in his videos. And then he showed like people dead and blood all over him in his videos.

Like this kid was really sick. And this was a heavily populated area of Jewish people. So I mean, I'm in there saying it can't be. Yeah, I still understand why people are against Jews. I don't know. I'm still. I never understand it at all. I don't either.

It's strange. Like, I don't even get it. But I guess because he was just firing at the crowd, they can't really call it a hate crime. but he was also seen going into a synagogue and he's gog and he's been there several times and he brought his back pack and they made him leave because he wasn't a member. So just something is up with that. I almost think it could have been geared towards Jewish people.

Listen, Al, this is what I want you to study and you might already know a little bit about this. But one of our upcoming podcast we're going to do, besides 9-11, guys, we promise we're going to do this one very soon. And Al is coming on for that one too. But listen, one of the podcasts we're going to do that I really, really want to do, we're thinking about all these like false flags, you know, these things that could be deep state government. We have to do the Oklahoma City bombings and Timothy McVey. Yes. Oh, hell yeah.

And the reason I say that is because they're bomb experts that supposedly Timothy McVey had a fertilizer bomb. And they're explosive experts that say there's no. no way in hell that any fertilizer bomb is going to do what it did to this building. No. Oh, no. That's nearly impossible. When they killed his ass, they killed him quick. Quick fast in the hurry.

Yeah, so, yeah, we got to get into that. Yeah, that'll be an interesting one for sure. Because I've never really looked into that. He didn't last long at all. And we'll also do Eric Rudolph, too, because, you know, Eric Rudolph is another very interesting, you know, the Atlanta Olympic bombing. strange, not saying there's anything crazy behind it, but there could be. Because even back then, dude, when I was not even thinking about conspiracy theories and they

started blaming him for this and this and this, it was strange to me because I was like, that's weird. Just trust me, Sherry. I thought Eric Grudoff was the one that went into the North Carolina Mountains. Well, he did. Yeah, but he supposedly did the, what was it, like a, not a planned parenthood, but something like that. Christian against Christians. But he also supposedly did the Atlanta Olympic bombings.

And I remember watching some kind of show where some other guy got framed for all that crap. Yeah. Yeah, that was a show. Yeah. I can't remember his name. Damn it. I forgot. But yeah.

Yeah, there's a lot to talk about. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, remember Oklahoma City bombings. We're definitely going to do 9-11. Yeah, we have to do that. We need to do 9-11 over like three episodes because I've been researching and research and research. And it's got to be a really good one. And it is kind of scary.

We need to have like some wine with that one. Yeah. That's going to be, woo. Yeah. We're going to need a glass of wine and maybe a word signal. Wow. We probably kept you on a little longer than you probably wanted to.

But I don't mind. We do appreciate you coming on. And again, we have a lot of people praying for you, by the way. Yeah, by the way. Yeah, we've got emails and messages. Yeah. So I told Chad, we need to get your email after this.

Oh, thank you all so much. So we can forward those emails to you. I was actually going through those right before we came on the podcast. I'm trying to respond to people, and I was trying to respond to people in email. So I'm trying to get back to a lot of you. But, yeah, there was a lot of people as like, hey, tell Al, we're praying for him, you know. So there are definitely people out there praying for you. We're a family.

We're all family and people that care. Oh, yeah, for sure. And look, man, like you said, it's life. But you know what? The thing about it is, dude, is that what we're doing being on this podcast, what we're trying to do is we're trying to make. we're trying to make things real and make life better and we're trying to also like I said I told you I think earlier or I told you share it earlier it's like I don't like to preach about God or any of that stuff but I also just tell you my experiences of what I feel I'm not the best Christian but like you know

there is better than what the bad things that happen there is a bigger end goal to all of this the life oh yeah for sure and what you have to know out and this is something I've wondered about my dad but your mom sounds like a great person. You know, she's not suffering no more. She's in a better place. I 100% believe if you listen to our certain podcasts and listen all the way through at the end, man, there's no question to me that when you die,

you're going somewhere else, and you're not going somewhere else you're going to hurt and in pain. And that's something you have to really believe. And if you can truly ever believe that, and look, I've done, and I swear to God, I grew up going to church. I was telling my friend this last night,

my friend Nick from Atlanta, or mystery man which is on another podcast but anyway but I was telling Nick from Atlanta lives at 1114 in South Park Avenue I'm just kidding

I'm just kidding Nick if he was listening but I was telling him last night I was like dude I was like you know what I was like I grew up in a Christian household my mom made me go to church and but then when you kind of grow older you start

questioning things right and Oh, yeah. And it wasn't until we really, I mean, I had so many questions. I would lay awake every night thinking, like, is there a God? Like, what happens if I die right now? Am I just non-existent? And I always thought this stuff. And then we got in this podcast and we started doing scientific type research about what scientists say about this and this and UFOs and the universe.

Man, it wasn't until science proved to me beyond a reasonable doubt. there is more of, there's more of a chance of God than anything. And so what I, so science, even though you're trying to disprove God, we appreciate you trying to disprove God because all you're doing is proven God.

Exactly. And so Al, what I want to say is, dude, wherever she is, she's in a better place. I believe that's probably heaven. And, and we're going to keep praying for you, man.

And you're going to go through times that you need people to talk to. You can always call us. I'm sure there are 8 million people that listen to us right now. that would let you talk to them to. And it'll all be good, man. But look, we really, really appreciate you coming on.

We're going to have you on many other times because you're like my brother now, man. You're like Sherry's sister. Oh, yeah. And we love you. Sherry's sister. I mean, sorry. What? What?

Al, wait a minute. Are you binary? This is the L-B-B-G-T-Q-R-S-T-U-L-M-N-O-P. I don't know what the heck that is. Binary? I have no idea with that. A binary, I think, is a he or a person. I don't know what that is.

It's a person that's not a he or a she. How, are you a robot? Yes, I am a robot. Binary. A binary. I am not him or her. I am a robotic owl. How may I help you?

Hey, but you know what the thing is? You could technically consider a robot binary because they're not male or female, right? So, you know, maybe that's what they're getting at. Well, maybe their name would be like a shim or something. Shim. Shims. They're shims. But y'all do say a prayer for Al, because Saturday, right, is when you're laying your... Saturday. Saturday, you're laying your mom to rest. Yeah, Saturday, 11 o'clock. I got her...

So say a prayer for... Well, listen, man. So say a prayer for Al, 11 o'clock on Saturday. Saturday, when you're there, just know we're all with you. We're all going to be thinking about you. What time are you doing that? 11. 11? Yes, sir.

All right. We'll be thinking. about you then so just just fill us there on that day and no you're not along and we love you dude and we're going to have you back on very soon oh yeah and my mom she i'm pretty sure she'll be proud of you guys and me you know talking about everything and just in knowledge the fact you know that she she loved everything like just just acknowledging the fact of her and she fought for four years and two years with her cancer, two and a half of her cancer, and then two years just dealing with her arthritis and other health issues and her colon. But she's definitely in a better place, and she's not in pain anymore. I'm just glad I was there to see her smile and,

you know, and she took that last, bro. I'm glad I was there to see her. Absolutely. She's definitely smiling now, man, wherever she's at. And she's watching you. She's smiling in heaven. I've believe there's a heaven i think that's where she's at so oh yeah i'm pretty sure she's looking down on she's probably listening this right now oh yeah talking about y'all y'all crazy probably so and my dad hopefully is listening to us too he's like oh i'm getting goosebumps y'all come on all right man well listen we'll let you go i hope you have a great night we're going to bring you back very soon so uh thank you so much for coming on al and thank you all so much again yeah not a problem man talk to you soon yes sir all right bye all right that was that

and that was our podcast. Guys, man, it's, I don't know. Yeah, so make sure you think about Al Saturday. Seriously. I mean, that's a really hard thing to do. You know, I haven't had to do that yet. Lay my mom to rest, but I've had to lay my dad to rest and love you. Yeah, I have.

But I do not look forward to laying my mom to rest. No, that's a hard thing. Well, guys, listen, until next time, we love each and everyone. You reach out to us on Facebook. Talk to us, man. Look, if you want to be a part of our family, just reach out of us. Man, we'll talk to you. We'll hang out with you.

Give us your numbers, man. We might call you one night because we do that. Chad will call you. Believe me. So anyways, until next time, guys, we love you. Stay safe. And until next time, peace out. Peace out.

Try and get a bulletin my soul.