Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Iran vs Israel Imminent | World War 3 Scenario

Episode Date: April 11, 2024

Tensions are soaring in the Middle East as recent events have set the stage for potential escalation. Following Israel's attack and the killing of high-ranking Iranian officials, Iran appears ready to... retaliate, raising the specter of a direct strike on Israel. In response, the United States is actively preparing to support Israel and is poised to intervene should the conflict escalate further. In this episode, our special guest co-host, Sam, joins us to delve into the far-reaching implications of these developments and how they could spiral into a much broader global conflict. Additionally, we offer our insights into the current situation between Israel and Hamas. Tune in for a comprehensive analysis of the unfolding crisis in the region. All of this and more on this episode of Iran vs Israel Imminent | World War 3 Scenario

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Starting point is 00:00:02 You told me that be better days And nothing that can pull us under You want to take the pain away But know that I was born as a fight We feel we're fit But we're better than that We're better than that So I'm your host, Chad
Starting point is 00:00:35 Alongside at least momentarily, my beautiful wife Sherry. And tonight we also have a special guest co-host, Sam. She's been on the podcast before. So we will talk to her momentarily. But tonight we are going to be talking about Israel threatens to strike Iran directly if Iran launches attack from its territory. This is a battle that is quickly escalating. We have Iran closing down airspace over their country. And we have literally one of the greatest threats to Israel's, well, existence, really, in a very very very important. long time. This could come after Iran attacks Israel directly along with Houthis and Hezbollah, you name it, all of their other partners in the Middle East. The United States has taken a,
Starting point is 00:01:20 I guess, decently strong stance on this to say that if Iran does attack Israel, the U.S. will intervene and also directly strike Iran, which would then obviously put us in yet another Middle East War. But I think this will be a lot larger than just another Middle East War. We're talking about Iran, a superpower, not a superpower, but a superpower in the Middle East for sure. We don't know exactly what their nuclear capabilities are, but we do know they have support from countries like China, I believe also Russia. So we're going to talk about all of that on tonight's episode. Sam, welcome to the show as the co-host tonight. How you been? Hey, hey again, I'm good. I'm glad to be back on the show with you guys. Awesome. And Sherry,
Starting point is 00:02:04 you are here. Yes, I'm. I'm here a day after surgery, and I just wanted to put this out here. Thank you so much for all the well wishes and all the likes and loves. It really has meant so much to me. And then especially people that had surgery the same day, we're like, holy cow. Like there's one of our friends that got ran over by a car. Yeah, I told him. I said they should ban assault cars.
Starting point is 00:02:29 So I think he was in way worse shape than I am. But I really do appreciate the well wishes, guys. So thank you so much. It really was heartfelt. Yeah, it has been, it was tough yesterday because Sherry obviously had, I mean, some kind of crazy sinus surgery. And so I think I was a little more nervous than she was going into the whole situation. But yeah, it was kind of a rough night last night. You've done better today.
Starting point is 00:02:52 But, you know, it is going to take quite a while to heal. But hopefully this helps you in the long run. Because, I mean, for anybody that's been listening, I think most people know that Sherry stays sick consistently. And most of it seems like it is coming from your sinuses. Yeah, a lot of people think I'm like a heavy spina. smoker or something. And I'm not. It's just because I'm always sick. Yeah, absolutely. So hopefully this will help. Yeah, for sure. So yeah, let's get in just to the basic topic or I guess kind of the groundwork for what we're going to be talking about
Starting point is 00:03:21 tonight. Israel's foreign minister threatened Wednesday that his country's forces would strike Iran directly if the Islamic Republic launched an attack from his territory against Israel. His comments come amid heightened tensions between the rival powers following the killings of Iranian generals in a blast at the Iranian consulate in Syria earlier this month. And they quotes, If Iran attacks from its territory, Israel will respond and attack in Iran. Israel Katz said in a post on X in both Farsi and Hebrew. Earlier Wednesday, Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Khomeini, I'm probably not saying that
Starting point is 00:03:57 right, but anyways, reiterated a promise to retaliate against Israel over the attack on his consulate in Damascus. Tehran holds Israel responsible for the strike that leveled. the building killing 12 people. Israel has not acknowledged its involvement, though it has been bracing for an Iranian response to the attack, a significant escalation in their long-running shadow war. So yeah, this has been a topic that we've mostly stayed away from for a while, especially the Israel-Gaza conflict. And obviously, we've covered this topic pretty extensively as the war started, right? And you had October 7th when Hamas soldiers, members,
Starting point is 00:04:36 terrorists, whatever you want to call them, they entered into Israel and killed, I think it was over 1,200 people. Obviously, since then, Israel has launched a campaign predominantly in Gaza, but there are also other places that they have been attacking as well. And so there has been a lot of speculation, a lot of controversy, a lot of protests all around the world against Israel because of the way Israel has handled the situation potentially, or not even necessarily handled it in the beginning, but I guess potentially how they are now handling the situation in Gaza. Sam, what is some of your thoughts, I guess? Just base thoughts. It's been a while since we have talked about the Israel-Gaza conflict, but, and I don't even know, was it, was it one of those
Starting point is 00:05:25 episodes that you came on for before? Seems like maybe it was. We talked about disease X, but we did go a little bit into geopolitical matters. I don't remember if we talked about this directly. I know you and I have spoken about it before. Yeah. What is your just overall thoughts now in the situation? Like, how do you see the response to, at the very least, the Israel-Palestine situation? So my thoughts have been, it's been a lot of evolution because initially, when this first happened October 7th, I honestly had not followed much of anything that went on in Israel, didn't really know anything about God's in the West Bank and all of that. So initially my reaction was the same, I think, as the rest of the world, it was just like, whoa, this is terrible, you know, terror
Starting point is 00:06:13 attack that's happened, just horrified for the civilians. You know, you're seeing all of the news and at this point almost what I would say propaganda in some cases about what went on. And so I think everyone at that point was 100% in support of the fact that Israel had a right to defend itself. Now, generally speaking for me, I'm very much America first. So I don't really thied heavily one way or the other. My main concern is how does this affect America? As this has progressed, and I have seen how this administration, even it's odd to me, even against their own voters, thoughts, it seems,
Starting point is 00:06:55 has pressed so hard to just allow Israel to do whatever they want. and we're backing them regardless of if anything that we may be urging them to do that they're just not listening to. It's becoming more apparent to me that we're going to end up involved in a much larger conflict if we continue to support them. Yeah. Just unequivocally as we have been. For sure. Yeah. And it's kind of interesting, though, because the Biden administration, you know, it's it is one thing that as president, I would not want to be in this situation if I were them because they have both.
Starting point is 00:07:30 supporters on the Jewish side of the community that they need the support from. And then obviously they have the pro-Palestinian side where they need that support. Right. And, you know, if you look at, I was actually looking at a stat today. I believe it was 70% of Jews voted for Biden in the 2020 election. So that is a large number of Jews that voted Democrat. And then also you look on the other side, they call Joe Biden on the left now Genocide Joe. So because of his support, of the Israel offensive in Gaza. There have obviously been many things that have come out in media. There's been videos when the actual United States, I believe, was dropping supplies into
Starting point is 00:08:13 Gaza. And during this time, there was an attack on the people that were going towards the supplies by members of the IDF. And so that obviously blew up and went crazy. But we don't really know how many civilians have died. Now, obviously, any war, that you have in any case scenario. I mean, if there's a war in the United States,
Starting point is 00:08:35 if there's a war in Europe, you're going to have civilian casualties. There is no question about it. If you think or anyone thinks that Iran or Russia or China is going to come invade the United States or at the very least have strikes on the United States and they actually probably even care about civilian casualties, I guarantee they don't.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Just think about that from that perspective. Typically, they do not. Sure. And so war is messy or is bloody. And once war starts, you can't guarantee the safety of civilians. Although, yes, in international law or I guess the Geneva Convention here in the United States, you know, protecting civilian life should be the number one priority. But at the same time, we know throughout the United States as many wars that we've been
Starting point is 00:09:22 involved in, there is absolutely no telling how many civilians we have killed in battle all across the world. But yet we didn't really see a lot of those protesters then. So why do we see a lot of these protesters now, I guess? I mean, have you thought about that? I really don't know in terms of how this initially blew up so much with all the protesters. I think in the beginning, a lot of the people that were protesting, honestly, I don't think a lot of them even understood what they were protesting. As time has went on, I think that it has become more understood. and again, I'm not on one side or the other. And to be very clear, one thing that I think has been so divisive about this is this hard push that anyone who speaks against the Israeli government or what their administration is doing is getting labeled as anti-Semitic.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I mean, if you look at what Candace Owens has been dealing with, I'm not a huge fan of Candace Owens, but I have to say the way that they've come at her as being an anti-Semitic versus what she's. she's actually been saying and just the concerns she's brought up and sort of the questions she's had, I think is absurd. And so it's really put this polarization where you kind of have to be on one side or the other. I don't exist in that world on any topic. I'm very, everything is very nuanced. I think the biggest thing with this, there's a couple of things. So one, obviously, you do have a lot of civilians that have been killed. But also, I mean, they've basically leveled Gaza. Like, there's nothing for these people to return to. They have pretty much indiscriminately bombed the Gaza Strip.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Yeah. The other thing I find interesting is that I don't know if you saw the rabbi and Candice Owens that went back and forth. Basically, not only, it seems, does Israel or Israelis want everyone to condemn Hamas and say that that was a terror attack? it's like you have to go even farther than that and say that Israel is of a higher ethical standard and so that you can't compare those two things. Yeah. It's like, okay, let's say that's the case. To your point, if Russia or China or Iran were to come and attack us, we could absolutely expect tons of civilians to be killed because they don't have any respect for human life. if we're supposed to be holding Israel to this higher moral standard, I think that they probably
Starting point is 00:11:56 should be operating in a way that we're not comparing them to things like that. Yeah. Yeah, it's very interesting because if you look at it that way, I think that, I think, you know, for example, what you just said about, you know, either China or Russia, not necessarily have in regard for civilian life. I think they do. But I think they specifically have regard for their. civilian life, right? So, yes, true. Their group, their population, maybe. Maybe, yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 00:12:24 who knows. But yeah, typically their civilian life is what they care more about. I mean, obviously, if you think about the United States' stance and what we're doing and what we're involved in and how far we're pushing this conflict. I mean, and I think we're pushing a conflict in Ukraine and Russia. I think we potentially were major instigators to that. We are still instigating that, which we'll talk about probably in just a little bit. I don't necessarily think we instigated the conflict or situation in Israel. I'm not exactly sure how that all worked out. But what I do know is that the United States, in particular, mostly Democrats, have been
Starting point is 00:12:59 funding Iran for, I mean, years now. We're talking about Obama. We're talking about Biden. These are multi, multi-million dollar deals. There was one instance where we were literally flying over stacks of cash in billions to Iran to release to them so that I guess they could, you know, actually further. their nuclear program, which makes zero sense because it's like we love giving money to enemies. We love giving money to people that hate America.
Starting point is 00:13:27 And in particular, they really don't like Israel, although supposedly we all of a sudden love Israel, which I used to think Democrats did not ever love Israel because they seem to always not necessarily be on board with the Iron Dome and many other things that it seemed like Republicans did more for Israel than Democrats. But now all of a sudden, they're all behind it, which I find also very interesting. I mean, you know, is it the military industry complex? You know, think about all the politicians that are funded and in the pocket of military industrial complex companies. And now all of a sudden they're so on board with Israel.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Yeah, for sure. The Uniparty has definitely unified in this matter in terms of it is interesting. It's almost as if we are more able to criticize our own government from the government of Israel. It's a little bit perplexing to me. I really don't quite understand this history that we have. And I mean, I understand, obviously, that they are our greatest ally in the Middle East. But it's a little bit counterintuitive because the purpose of having a great ally in the Middle East would be to, you know, dampen conflict. And instead, it's almost going in the other direction.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Absolutely. No, you're 100% right. I want to play a clip. Joe Rogan was recently challenged on his assertation that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. I do want to play this because I think it's important. And then we're going to talk about our thoughts on this clip. And then we're going to get into the imminent, very, very imminent threat that Iran will directly attack Israel and what that will look like. But let's first play this Joe Rogan clip where he's challenged by his guest of whether or not Israel is committing genocide in Gaza.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Here you go. 30,000 innocent civilians in response to something that killed. killed 1,200 innocent civilians and you're continuing to bomb an area into oblivion. That is at least the steps of genocide or a form of genocide. So when you say 30,000 civilians, it's not 30,000 civilians that have been killed, though. How many thousands have been killed? So according to Gaza Health Ministry, which is run by Hamas, the number they have is 32,000, but they don't distinguish between Hamas and civilians.
Starting point is 00:15:44 How many members of Hamas are there? 40,000, something like that. I don't think the number is known, but it's tens of thousands. thousands. So Hamas says 32,000 people have been killed, civilians and soldiers. Israel says 13,000 soldiers have been killed by Israel. So let's not doubt either number. They could both be inflated. But if both of those numbers are accurate, which they may or may not be, that would be 13,000 soldiers killed, 19,000 civilians killed, which for urban combat in the Middle East is a very normal ratio. It's very distinct from genocide, because genocide is when you're trying to maximize
Starting point is 00:16:18 civilian casualties. I think Israel, however imperfectly, is doing the opposite. They're trying to minimize civilian casualties. That's interesting. This is the way I would put it succinctly. If you ask the question, what is unique about this war? What is different about this war than all other wars? It's not the civilian death toll. The ratio of combatants to civilians is, I think it's better than the American armies was when we got ISIS out of Mosul. That was like 10,000 civilians dead to kill 4,000 ISIS. This is 19,000 civilians dead to kill 13,000. What's unique about this war, unlike every other war that I could think of, is you have an army in Hamas that has perfected the art of embedding itself and meshing itself with civilians so that you cannot hit them without hitting the people
Starting point is 00:17:07 around them. Other armies have done this, but none have perfected it to the extent that Hamas has. And yes, I agree with all of the absolute tragedy and suffering of the Palestinian people, but what creates that is the way Hamas fights. And either we can say one of two things. We can either say Israel just, Israel doesn't have a clean shot, and they have to let Hamas get away with it because it's too much to bear. But then we are essentially creating a situation where terrorists have found the perfect solution, which is that you can cross the border, go house-to-house slaughtering your
Starting point is 00:17:40 enemies and then hide behind your own people and they can do nothing about it. It's a perfect strategy. Can we live in a world where we allow that to be an acceptable strategy? I don't think so. And it's very ugly to watch. It's heartbreaking and I completely understand why people don't think the way I think when they see the videos. I completely get it. But I don't think we can actually live in a world where that's allowed to be a strategy. I appreciate your perspective. I see what you're saying. There you go. That's what this guest told Joel Rogen as far as just kind of some of the numbers, right? I mean, you have 40,000 plus Hamas members, you know, I guess just rough estimate. And also keeping in mind, the Ministry of Health
Starting point is 00:18:23 in Gaza and Palestine is run by Hamas. So, you know, is Israel trying to minimize civilian casualties? Are they not? You know, you're looking at potentially 19,000 civilians dead at this point. But to his point, Hamas has perfected the art of embedding themselves in the civilian population. And going back just briefly to what I said a minute ago, Sam, I did say that most countries or people care or love or want to protect their own people. I don't at all think that Hamas gives a damn about their own people. They are, the people that lived under Hamas lived in very bad conditions. if you want to talk about dictatorship or North Korea or something like that, Hamas was a very, very, very similar situation, if not worse.
Starting point is 00:19:15 You had basically a terrorist group running the country. And so how do you fight against Hamas if they go and kill a bunch of your innocent civilians and then run and go hide behind their people? Because they don't give a damn about their people anyway. Obviously, they don't really care at all about human life. If they did this, you know, when Hamas attacked Israel, they did this in a very personal way. They went door to door, house to house, shooting people in a face, killing grandmas, children, you name it. They did it. They killed concert goers that were there to enjoy their day at a concert or a rave or whatever it was.
Starting point is 00:19:52 And so then do you just expect Israel to go back and say, well, I guess we can't get them because, you know, they're in bedding with the civilians. What is your thoughts on that, Sam? I mean, I think this has been the question since this all started is, you know, what is the proportionate response, so to speak? To your point and to what I was saying earlier, though, is that, you know, Israel is just like the United States, as we claim to do, although we also have killed a lot of civilians over the years. You know, they're holding a higher moral standard. And so I don't know how you fight terrorists that are embedded everywhere. I'm not a military strategist, but I would say that you have to be. a lot more targeted in your attacks.
Starting point is 00:20:39 And, you know, their intelligence agency is apparently right there with the CIA. So the intel that they're able to gather, I'm sure, would allow them to be a bit more targeted than they've been. Some of the attacks that they've actually done in the last couple of weeks have been pretty targeted. So, you know, I don't know. I think that there's no doubt from just hearing the rhetoric that is happening in Israel right now, There is definitely a part of this that's retaliation. And I'm not saying I blame them for that. I mean, we went through September 11th here.
Starting point is 00:21:13 We know how that felt. They basically have compared this to being their September 11th, but to a much larger degree, just in terms of the numbers of it. But to your other point, Hamas is definitely a terrorist organization. And 100%, they don't care anything about the civilians in Gaza. But, you know, on that same side of the coin, there's an argument that, you know, they've elected Hamas. And so this is basically what they get for having Hamas is the government that they've chosen and elected.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Well, a huge amount, I think it's like 50% of the current Ghazin population wasn't even old enough to vote at the time that that happened. But also, I don't really know that you can consider that election, quote unquote, like when someone's basically holding a gun to your head, I don't really know that that's considered like an actual election. and that feels very much under duress. It feels very similar to Russia's election, for instance. So I don't know how you protect civilians there that are really just in a horrible situation. I think probably a lot of them do not support Hamas, and they've probably been just as afraid of Hamas, and they've not been able to rise up against them as the Israelis are from having been attacked by them.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Yeah, you're right. And the other issue with the Palestinians and people there, a lot of people, not all. Not all, no, no, no, no. I say it, Jesse Lee Peterson this way, says anyways. But a lot of them are, you know, they are indoctrinated to hate Israel. A lot of the Middle East in whole really is indoctrinated to hate the United States or the West. It's up for some reasons. It is good reasons, I guess.
Starting point is 00:22:48 They believe that the United States, you know, obviously has invaded Afghanistan and Iraq, unjustly Iraq, I would say more specifically. but, you know, it's just their viewpoint there is a lot about hatred, and especially under Hamas. Hamas, you know, indoctrinates the kids from a very early age in elementary school to hate the West, hate Israel, hate Jews. That is what their indoctrination is. Now, listen, I have a very, very different standpoint and viewpoint. I have really thought about this whole situation extensively. Sherry and I have had many conversations about it. it. We've argued about karma, not argued, argued, but, you know, debated with the situation as far as Jews now or just the way that, not even Jews in general, but the Jewish leaders that are coming out,
Starting point is 00:23:43 a lot of these people, and it's very interesting to me, but if you look at the situation, it is interesting to me that a lot of the big head CEOs of major companies, and a lot of these companies are very censorship pro pro censorship right so i think even black rock uh you're you're talking about some of the biggest companies in the world they are a lot of them are run by jewish leaders um and a lot of these jewish leaders are also um behind companies that are companies we usually go against on this podcast for various reasons for freedom for sovereignty for all of these all the same reasons we do this podcast. This is what we go against now. I'm not saying all Jews are like that because they're not. There are leaders of many different religious. I mean, look at, for example,
Starting point is 00:24:35 Catholic leaders and all the stuff just coming about that as far as molestations and kids and you name it. Just because you were a leader in something doesn't mean anything specifically. But it is just very strange how this whole thing's shaken out. But it is at the very least giving me a whole new perspective. Back to your point earlier where you said that, you know, and referencing the Candace Owen situation, Candice Owens essentially was fired from the daily wire because of her stance on the Israel and Gaza situation. And more specifically, when she said that Christ is king, aka Jesus, she was labeled an anti-Semite for that.
Starting point is 00:25:15 And that was mega viral. I know Patrick, but David recently has asked, both of them to come on to his podcast for a debate that is moderated by him, which I think would be a great idea. But nonetheless, you can't start calling people that believe in Jesus or believe Christ is king, anti-Semite, just because you believe something differently. Also keeping in mind the amount of Jewish people that are new reformed Jews or whatever they call those, the Jewish people, but to where they actually do believe in Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:25:51 I mean, there's a lot of those Jesus. Christ believing Jews now in the world. I want to touch on this real quick as well. So Trump had mentioned this. There's a lot of stuff going on. But you're also starting to hear a lot of these pro-Palestinian protesters and they're garnering large groups. And they are chanting death to America.
Starting point is 00:26:15 And this was on many news stations recently. And so a lot of what this guy, when you actually hear this clip, a lot of what he's saying is death to America. America. First, it starts with death to Israel. And then it starts with death to America. And the Biden administration can't even call this out. They are too afraid to call out anyone or any group that is saying death to America or death to Israel. And so here's the story. Here you go. And Dearborn this past Friday included death to Israel chance, death to America chance. Watch what happened there.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Tools ask us if Israel has the right to exist. The chant death to Israel has become the most logical chant shouted across the world today. El moat to Israel! It's not genocide Joe that has to go. It's the entire system that has to go. So moments ago, Corrine Jean-Pierre was asked about this by Jackie Heinrich, and here's what she said. Does the president condemn that? Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Is the president at all concerned that Dearborn is facing a risk? of becoming a hotbed of any sort of homegrown threats? I don't have any intelligence to share with you on that. Obviously, that's something that we're always very vigilant about, but don't have any national intelligence to share with you. But obviously, we will condemn any violent rhetoric, which we have been very, I mean, you're hearing from me, right? You're asking me a question, I'm answering it,
Starting point is 00:27:54 and we've been very vigilant about, or very consistent about denouncing that type of rhetoric. Should we expect a statement from the president on that, though? I mean, it was a pretty significant display. I mean, you're hearing from me. I think that's important. Okay, with that we bring in Masi Alinajad, an Iranian-American journalist and activist.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Masi, always good to have you with us. Thank you for being here. So you hear these chance of death to America. We see a lot of this kind of hostility, behavior in Michigan in different places. And you hear the White House say, well, we condemn that. And she was asked, are you? worried that there's more to it, that this is a potential hostility that could grow into violence
Starting point is 00:28:33 there. And she said that's not something we can talk about. What do you say about all that? You know, I have to say that when we have been warning about how lack of action actually will bring those warmongers, those who actually see war as a blessing to the U.S. soil, that's what I'm saying, because death to America, death to Israel, is the main important slogan by the Iranian regime, trying to expand their ideology across the globe. So I strongly believe that this is a real threat to democracy. And, you know, the Islamic Republic believes that
Starting point is 00:29:15 and doing everything that they can do to expand their own ideology here, to brainwash the youth here. In Iran, my people get killed for the crime of saying death to Islamic Republic. They face rape in prison for the crime of saying that we don't want Islamic Republic to create war in the region. But Islamic Republic, they want to fight against Israel and America.
Starting point is 00:29:42 They're like octopus. And they want to expand the Islamic ideology across the globe. So there you go. So there was the report from Fox News. And listen, this event that we're referring to, it is growing. And there are a lot of people now that are channing in many protests, death to America and death to Israel. How concerning do you think this is Sam? Because, I mean, obviously, if this was the situation in reverse, say that there were MAGA protesters that were out there, saying death to even a political party, the opposite political party to them.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Can you imagine what would happen? They would probably all be put in prison. They'd be put in prison for seditious conspiracy or some type of domestic. terrorist charge, but yet if you have someone like this that is coming into the country, or you're already here, it doesn't matter, that has this ideology and they say death to America, that's completely fine. Yeah, I mean, I think there's a lot that we could say about this. There's a lot of irony in this.
Starting point is 00:30:43 So, you know, first of all, I'm a huge proponent of free speech. I think it's one thing to say something. It's something else to do something. You're always going to have fringe groups on any type of issue. And obviously, you're dealing with extremists. in this particular instance. Now, the thing is, these types of extremists in the past have been known to actually carry out actions that are in line with what they're saying. So that's definitely something I think we need to be aware of.
Starting point is 00:31:15 And I'm hoping that our intelligence agencies are saying very much on top of that. The irony to me, though, is that this administration seems incredibly tone deaf on all sides of this issue. they're not wanting to denounce the people that are protesting, but also not really willing to acknowledge the fact that this is happening because of our unbridled support to Israel. And at this point, it's about half of the U.S. when it's been polled that says that they think Israel is not handling this war the right way or that they're basically going a bit overboard with it. Now, the interesting thing is that, you know, this is something I thought a lot about today.
Starting point is 00:31:58 I try my best to consume independent media, but also media from all sides. But I'm not a world traveler. I've went all over our country, but I've never even been outside of it. So all of the information that I'm getting is being filtered through somewhere. There's only so many primary sources that this information is coming from. When it comes to what's going on, for instance, with the death tolls, we are relying on on either Israel or Hamas to tell us how many deaths there's been in the region. Any information that we're getting from there is being filtered through, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:33 their news organizations or whatever. We don't really have access to a ton of primary sources. Even the information we get here about our own country is so much of its propaganda that I can only imagine what we are or are not getting. I think unless you're actually like boots on the ground witnessing what's happening, it's hard to know for sure what the truth is. So what I found interesting today was that I actually was watching an Israeli news source, and they are being highly critical of Biden for not denouncing this,
Starting point is 00:33:05 but they're also claiming that he is pandering to a really small amount of voters in the United States. Like they're saying, and this again, I mean, this is what's going to the Israeli people, that there's like 150 to 200,000 people that are not, in support of Israel. And they have to know when they're saying that that is not true. And if they do think it's true, then they're just totally ignorant to information or they're not getting the correct information, because that's not the case. Like I was saying earlier, it's interesting to me, it's very counterintuitive that so much of his base has a problem with this. Now, not everyone is an extremist who's out in the street, you know, screaming death to America, but a lot of people
Starting point is 00:33:42 have just been protesting in general that they feel like, you know, there needs to be a ceasefire at this point. It's been six months, et cetera. So this issue is so nuanced and it's really hard to know exactly what's going on because everything in this country and around the world is through such a politicized lens. And like you were saying, it's really interesting to see how this is tying into, you know, some of the elite class and these big corporations and just the military, industrial complex in general. There's just a lot of motivations of a lot of different groups of people that it's a little bit hard to parse out exactly what's going on.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Yeah, I think it's interesting because now the Biden administration and the deep state in particular are stuck in a little tricky situation because now you have this Israel-Gaza conflict, right, to where you have a lot of, like you said, and like I said earlier, the elites that run a lot of these massive major companies, which heavily fund the Democrat Party. keeping in mind because most of these major companies, Black Rock, you name it, George Soros, so many of them, there are Jewish. They are such huge supporters of the Democrat Party. I think particularly that's why you see so many Democrats so in solidarity all
Starting point is 00:34:57 the sudden, especially in a wartime situation with Israel or concerning Israel because they know where a lot of their money and funding and everything else is coming from, in particular bureaucracy. see, and really if you want to talk about deep state, what I truly believe the deep state is, obviously is bureaucrats, but in more specific terms, the deep state is the major corporations, massive corporations that really control government. They control policy, they control politicians, they control law, they control everything, because they are the ones that fund and, I mean, they are the puppet masters to our politicians
Starting point is 00:35:32 in Washington, D.C. This is not a government that is ran by politicians. it is a government that's ran by corporations. And it is ran by the high elite corporations. And in particular, if you get to think about a step above that, who runs the high up corporations and those elites? Well, it's the world economic forum. It's the globalist agenda.
Starting point is 00:35:50 And we say this often. Obviously, you know, Alex Jones and people like this has coined this term so many times talking about the battle against globalist. But the hard truth and reality of the situation is, is that we are in truly a battle, especially the United States and not just the United States, Canada and Europe and all these other countries, we are in a battle for our own sovereignty against the world economic forum and the globalist agenda and movement. They want a one world, they want a one world system. They want a one world health system. They ushered a lot of that in during COVID. They ushered a lot of that in.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Even actually after 9-11, when you talk about the Patriot Act, I think that was a huge step in the wrong direction for America. I think the intelligence agencies heavily use that against their own people. You got to think about now FISA. They actually just voted on that today. The FISA Act, which FISA basically gives warrantless searches, seizures, you name it. It essentially gives the three-letter intelligence agencies their right to do whatever the hell they want to against political opponents, American people. And supposedly FISA is all about other countries. We got to make sure that we stop terrorists, just like they used to say about the Patriot Act,
Starting point is 00:37:02 which we knew and know still that they used that against Americans. The FISA Act, well, thank God, was voted down from the House today. But I think the big picture here is the Biden administration is a very, very tricky scenario here because, like I said, you have these major corporate elite companies that are heavily run by Jewish people. And then also on the other side of the thing, you have the other side of who else they're being controlled by. Okay, well, the World Economic Forum push. those that are not Jewish, those that don't give a damn about Jewish people. Those people also are rich and elites and also are involved in a World Economic Forum and
Starting point is 00:37:41 the New World Order type movement. And those people also have a say. And I think that's genuinely why the Biden administration, in particular Democrats, cannot necessarily take one side or the other. They are stuck right in the middle. And the reality of this situation is that it's going to hurt. them big time in election, but going back to the Hamas elections, I mean, are the United States elections even going to be fair in 2024? Probably not. I mean, if we even get to that situation,
Starting point is 00:38:13 personally, I think either this type situation with Iran and Israel or even the Russia and Ukraine war, especially as far as what we're talking about as far as bringing them into NATO, one of those situations may blow up before the election, potentially the United States may try to forego elections or whatever. I mean, we're kind of seeing that in Israel. We've kind of saw some of that in Brazil. They're utilizing some of this stuff all over the world right now. But I think the number one enemy here is the World Economic Forum, the globalist. And what they really want is they do want death to America.
Starting point is 00:38:51 The World Economic Forum and those elites, they want America to crumble. They've always wanted that. We've talked about it so many times on this podcast. And I think this is a perfect scenario for them because now you have this Biden administration that is literally caught right in the middle and have no idea their way out, which is a very interesting thing. What I will say, oh, go ahead. Go ahead. I was just going to say, I think what is abundantly clear is that the one group that the Biden administration is not very concerned about, is the American people in general.
Starting point is 00:39:28 This balancing act that they're trying to do right now, it's just very evident that they're not actually weighing in the citizens of our country. I mean, we're so divided on everything all the time. You know, I've talked about this. I think we talked about it on the last podcast. This is just another thing now that there is just so much division, and now we're having all of these protests. It's causing such an uprising in our own country.
Starting point is 00:39:54 on behalf of us, you know, backing Israel. Now, one thing I find interesting you're bringing up about elections is that, you know, Netanyahu has been charged with corruption. I think he's actually, I don't know if he's still on trial now or that's been halted because of this war. But I was just looking like a week ago or so, they did a poll of Israeli citizens. And it's something like 75% of them want him to resign, that they don't feel like he's handling the war very well. And you again, like I said a moment ago, there's always motivations on every side, especially when you're dealing with people in power, the elites, globalists, etc. He has a lot of motivation to continue this war because as long as conflict is ongoing, he's going to remain in power. He was very unpopular prior to the initiation of this war.
Starting point is 00:40:47 I would like to think in the United States that we would uphold our constitutionality and would not forego an election even during war. time. I am not convinced at this point that we uphold anything 100% anymore. But I think that that's sort of what's happening in Israel right now is that they're almost being strong armed into probably something a lot of the citizens are not in agreement with because the political power wants to remain the political power. Yeah. I 100% agree. And I do want to play real quickly the Biden response and Biden warns Iran not to attack Israel. I'll let you hear here briefly. It's a very short clip. It's just what Biden's response is, his warning, quote unquote, to Iran and I'm sure they're shaking. Address the Iranian threat to launch a significant, they're threatening to launch
Starting point is 00:41:42 a significant attack on Israel. As I told Prime Minister Netanyahu, our commitment to Israel's security against these threats from Iran and its proxies is ironclad. Let me say it again, ironclad. We're going to do all we can to protect Israel security. All right. So that's what Biden said. And obviously, you know, he says that. But at the same time, he's also kind of backing off. They've been backing off, especially as far as the ceasefire stuff. Right. So the UN resolution and some of these other resolutions that have come forward that says, hey, we need a ceasefire. In Iran, I believe, even warned Israel and the United States and this said that if you do not have or push an immediate ceasefire to the situation in Gaza or to Israel in general, then we will attack Israel directly.
Starting point is 00:42:33 And obviously, Biden responded here by saying that. I do want to also play here. Iran has been preparing for war with the United States for 20 years, right? Iran has clear escalatory dominance over Israel. And I want to play this clip because I think this is also very important what this guy says here and his take on the situation in Iran and Israel. If the Israelis succeed
Starting point is 00:42:59 in escalating the war, in Lebanon, they will fail. Against Iran, in any exchange, the Iranians will have the upper hand. The Iranians drone and missile capabilities alone are much greater than that of Israel.
Starting point is 00:43:17 The Iranians have been planning this for 20 years, not against Israel. Israel is nothing. Israel without the United States supporting it day and night is nothing. It's a vulnerable, it's always been a vulnerable weak regime. Iran has been preparing itself for more than 20 years, but for 20 years it's been really preparing itself since the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq for war with the United States. They've been preparing themselves so that war. does not happen.
Starting point is 00:43:49 And the United States never chose to fight against Iran when Iran was much weaker than it was today. Remember, 10 years ago, Iran was an isolated country. So there you go. Iran has been preparing for war with the United States for many years. Now, here's a situation if Iran attacks Israel. And we got to talk about this because this is very important. This is what could blow the entire situation all up.
Starting point is 00:44:20 We're talking about a huge Middle Eastern conflict, potentially China's involvement or Russia. We don't know. But what we do know is that Israel is facing the threat of an imminent attack directly from Iran and in combination with coordinated attacks by Hezbollah, the Houthis, and Iranian proxies in Syria and Iraq. Biden must stop the harsh criticism of the only pro-American democracy. in the region and make clear that the U.S. will support them in defending against and responding to any such attacks, Marker Rubio says. What is your thoughts on that, Sam?
Starting point is 00:44:58 So I actually have a lot of thoughts on this situation. So I actually saw a report today that essentially Iran offered an ultimatum to us that said that they would not directly attack Israel in response to the bombing of the embassy, the Iranian embassy in Syria if the U.S. was able to secure a ceasefire deal. Now, this has been a thing for, you know, months now where we've been like very gradually urging a ceasefire whilst really not doing anything to promote that. So to the point of that clip there, Israel is only able to continue any war that they're in right now with the support of the United States. Now, Israel has alluded to wanting us to go to war or at least have a conflict with around for many, many years
Starting point is 00:45:53 now. There's actually, I don't know if you've ever seen it, there's some footage from like the 90s of Netanyahu. He did not know he was being recorded. It almost looks like he's in some house. And he's essentially saying that the United States is incredibly easily manipulated by Israel. They're easy to move in the right direction is what he says. And I find that a little bit disconcerting. And this is what I'm saying is that I think it's imperative that we're able to criticize a government without it being directed toward the people. I mean, of course, the attack that happened is horrible. The civilians did not deserve anything to happen to them. But nonetheless, you know, all of this is very geopolitical. Everyone has an agenda in this matter. So what's interesting
Starting point is 00:46:35 to me is this, the attack that was on the embassy, that is what's prompting this response from Iran. Apparently, they've not really been interested necessarily in having direct conflict with Israel. Israel has bombed a few other Iranian. I don't know if it was bases or what, but it's not been on their direct soil. It's not actually been Iranian. It's been something that they're funding another nation that they support. This is the first time that it's actually been an Iranian facility. And so now they're almost at a point because of, you know, their citizens are like, hey, what the hell here?
Starting point is 00:47:11 that they're going to have to have some type of response. I don't think they want to get an war with the United States. I don't think that's wise for them to do that. I think that's why they've not been picking a fight with us. But after this happened, the response to it has been really interesting because most countries in that area have condemned the attack from Israel on the embassy. And I actually had mentioned to you earlier that China in particular said the security of diplomatic institutions cannot be violated and serious sovereignty, independence, and territorial integrity should be respected.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Those are interesting words to me, because that's basically our exact same stance with Ukraine and why we're backing them. Every country has condemned this that has commented on it except for the United States. And our response has been that we had no involvement in this or advanced knowledge that the strike was going to happen, that Israel was going to do this. Yeah. It almost reminds me of someone who has a teenager that's like out of control. and the teenager is like, you know, vandalizing or whatever, and you come to the parents and you're like, hey, you're going to have to take care of this. They've destroyed my property. And the parents were like, well, I had absolutely no idea they were doing that.
Starting point is 00:48:24 And they're like, I don't know how to control them. I don't know what to do. And it's like, well, let's see. The car they drove to get there you paid for. The gas in the car you paid for. And the fact that you allowed them out of your home is also on you. So we're going to have to start taking some sort of accountability for this. because this is about to turn around and be a problem directly for us.
Starting point is 00:48:44 And like I said, my main concern is America. And we're getting to a point right now where if we don't get a hold on Israel and we don't, I mean, the fact that Biden's response is just completely the opposite of like, oh, ironclad support, do whatever you want. This is going to come home to roost with us. Yeah. No, I agree. No, I think you make a good analogy there too because, I mean, the reality is that, like,
Starting point is 00:49:06 there's one situation, which is the Israel's response. response to Hamas. And then now you have Israel that has implicated Iran. And, you know, they wanted to attack Rafah as well, which I'm not exactly sure what the situation is there. But I know that they are currently probably going to do that, it sounds like. And not only that, you know, the reality of the situation is that Israel does not stand a chance. And I want to break this down for a minute.
Starting point is 00:49:37 They don't stand a chance against Iran. As big as Israel is, as far as their military might, their intelligence, and you name it, Iran would destroy Israel very fast. And it wouldn't even be, you know, it wouldn't even be necessarily just Israel because you got to remember that you got the Houthis and you've got, I guess, whatever is left of Hamas and Hezbollah. These are all massive groups. Hasbala in particular is massive. But besides that, the weapons capabilities, of Iran is immense. Yes. Their missile systems, their intercontinental, the ballistic systems, their defense systems, their drone capabilities, their drone capabilities, some would say potentially
Starting point is 00:50:25 even rivaled the United States as drone capabilities as far as their weaponry on their drones, their stealth capabilities of their drones. They could feasibly put drones inside of Iran or sorry, Israel's airspace. without Iron Dome's ability to track them perfectly. We also believe that Iran has hypersonic missiles, much like Russia has. We don't know for sure, but we speculate that Iran does have hypersonic missiles. But nonetheless, I mean, if Iran gets in a conflict directly with Israel, there is zero question that United States will also be then directly involved. in Iran's situation.
Starting point is 00:51:12 And then if Iran starts getting blown up by the United States, where does that leave Russia and China? What do they do? Do they use that as an opportunity to further support Iran? You know, we know, obviously, that Russia and China and kind of the whole region has been in support against Israel, right? So this very well, although we've been looking at Ukraine and Russia, which is very much still a possibility that that could 100% lead to either a further European situation or conflict,
Starting point is 00:51:46 which there are reports now that are saying that the furtherance of a war in Europe is no longer a fantasy. Russia has warned it. There is France and other European countries that are preparing for war right now with Russia. I know France has sent some soldiers to Ukraine. very likely the United States have soldiers in Ukraine right now. And although it's not heavily, I guess, announced or obviously on mainstream media for obvious reasons, I guess. But this situation is getting out of control very fast. And I want to read something briefly, but breaking Iran closes airspace over Tehran's citing military maneuvers.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Iran's minister of defense ordered the suspension of flights as a, of midnight tonight. This comes after reports that Iran and its proxies were preparing to carry out imminent strikes in Israel. This is a source from Rooters and Mirr News. This is actually right here on, what is this, Tehran, ACC, FIC, FI, R, which is their aviation database, or I guess what you would, I guess, kind of call it here, but a notum to all, notice to all airmen. So they have closed airspace over Iran. Usually when you see this happening, that means
Starting point is 00:53:10 they're probably going to be firing missiles pretty soon. And if they do that and there is a direct attack on Israel, Israel will be heavily damaged depending on how extensive they want to take the attack, which I don't know, right? How far does Iran want to take it? Will Iran attack a couple of locations in Israel, you know, a couple of city centers. We don't know, but nonetheless, if Iran does that, then we have a problem, potentially. But it is Biden in the White House. So maybe we don't. Maybe Biden will do nothing and he will sit around and let Israel be destroyed. There will be happy people and not happy people. We don't know. No. And actually, if I may say something real quick before you play the clip, that's sort of the debacle that we're in. Because if you think about this, I honestly don't
Starting point is 00:54:00 think that Iran has any, I don't think there's an advantage to them to attacking Israel just in general. I think they would have already done it. I think this definitely, at this point, they're almost in the position that Israel was in of like, we have to mount some type of response to this. They're not, they're not a power in the world that's just going to sit there and let this happen to them and look weak while doing it. Now, as much as you and I know and everyone else, that Israel cannot withstand an attack from Iran by itself that Iran would crush it. But Israel also knows this. And this is the problem that I have.
Starting point is 00:54:34 When I say that we have this disclosure from Netanyahu way back saying that, you know, it's easy to manipulate the United States, I'm starting to feel like at this point that they're almost like, let's just do all of the things that we want to do while we've got the backing from the United States to the point that we do. I think the Israeli citizens have actually been told that America, all of us, unequivocally. which I don't think is the case anymore. Our administration certainly does, though. And right now it would be horrible optics if we did turn our back on Israel. So we're almost forced now to cash all of these checks that Israel is writing with anyone they're deciding to create conflict with around them. And I actually just saw today where Netanyahu was giving a speech in front of,
Starting point is 00:55:23 I'm not sure who it was. It was actually in Israel. And he said, we will complete the elimination of Hamas brigades, including Enrafa, which by the way, as you mentioned, they have said they are going to attack Rapa and they've apparently got a date, but they won't tell us what it is. And he continued on to say, there is no force in the world that will stop us. There are many forces that are trying to do so, but it will not help. Those are interesting words from someone who does not have the ability to follow through with these military
Starting point is 00:55:52 actions without the support of someone else. And we are not really giving any stipulations. We're just kind of letting them do whatever. And like I said, we're just paying all the bills for it and backing them up. And we continue to do that and allow, I'm not going to say Israel. I don't have anything against Israeli people whatsoever. I really think this is about a corrupt politician. And if we continue to let Netanyahu fund all of his agenda and we just stand back and say, we've got your back, who knows what we're about to get into? You know, you're right. Yeah, it's very interesting to me because, you know, even on the religious side, which I don't want to get too deep in for sure on this episode. But, you know, the religious side of the Israel and Gaza conflict, you know, obviously Christians here in the United States, they all say that, hey, you know, we got to stand with Israel because, you know, because that's what the Bible says, right?
Starting point is 00:56:54 But it is very interesting because Jews don't believe in Jesus. and yet Christians believe that if you, you know, which I consider myself a Christian, by the way, I believe in Jesus, which means, you know, if you believe in Jesus, then that's your way to heaven, right? That's your way to the Holy Land, the promised land, whatever. So it's always been a very interesting concept of how Christians have to stand with Israel necessarily on all aspects. Maybe people out there much smarter than I am can tell me what your stance is on that. But either way, what we do know is right now, it looks like Iran is planning to target Israel. This could be happening today.
Starting point is 00:57:36 And I say today it is night for us, but it could be happening any moment. There are various accounts on X that are reporting this. There is tons of propaganda as far as, I mean, if you look up Iran, or Israel right now on X, it says Israel, get ready. Iran is coming. There's post that say, you know, death is more scary before than actual death. That is the scariest part. It is your preparedness for your death will come.
Starting point is 00:58:11 It is huge, man. I mean, this massive, massive stance on how many people are wanting Iran to attack. Israel on social media is crazy. But nonetheless, that is what's happening. I want to play this real quick, this clip, and we'll talk about it and we'll break it down. But this is stay away is what they're saying. This is what Biden administration is saying to Iran as the evening unfolds, that they are trying to encourage Iran not to attack Israel directly, although all indications are
Starting point is 00:58:45 likely that Iran may actually do this imminently. We don't know when. but they have diverted all air traffic outside of Iran. They do not want any airplanes flying over their territory. I believe also Iraq has diverted most of their air traffic out of Iraqi airspace. So potentially Iraq may be involved in this. Could this be a very, very destructive event for Israel? We don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:11 But I want to play this quick clip for you guys. Here you go. The Associated Press with this headline. After six months of war, Israel's isolation grows with no. end in sight. An excerpt from the Associated Press here. When Israel declared war against Hamas, it stood unified at home and enjoyed broad backing from around the world. Now Israel finds itself in a far different place, bogged down in Gaza, divided domestically, isolated internationally, and increasingly at odds with its closest ally. Again, an AP quote there. And against the backdrop,
Starting point is 00:59:43 all of that that was said, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu delivered this message yesterday. We will stand united. We will strike our enemies. We will eliminate Hamas. We will free our hostages. And with God's help, we will bring total victory. Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi joined more than 30 House Democrats and writing a letter to President Biden. Here it is. We strongly urge you to reconsider your recent decision to authorize the transfer of a new arms package to Israel and to withhold this in any future offensive arms transfers until a the full investigation into the airstrike is completed. Now that, of course, that air strike is in reference to the accidental killing of seven aid workers last week. The Wall Street Journal's editorial board says Democrats are playing into Hamas's hands.
Starting point is 01:00:34 And that cutting off weapons to an ally in wartime would be the definition of betrayal. So there you go. So the Democrats are obviously starting to say, hey, we got to do something. We got to start talking about this. We got to start, you know, doing this. Because listen, the Democrats. have never technically been on Israel's side. I mean, let's just face it. We've talked about this earlier. They have never actually really been on Israel's side. They're just had to pretend for a while they were on
Starting point is 01:00:59 Israel's side for whatever reasons, but they're not actually on Israel's side. But how far is Israel willing to go for this situation? I mean, will Israel be destroyed again? Now, if you read the Bible at all, Israel is actually destroyed many times. I'm talking about many, many, many times. And God even said in various passages, in Genesis and various other, in Exodus, you name it, but these generations of Israelites were destroyed. And in large part, because God said, look, you're not brave enough to do this in Canaan or Canaan, which is now Israel.
Starting point is 01:01:38 So we're going to wait on a generation that is more brave than you are so that you can then go into Canaan and destroy all living things in Canaan because this is your land. And so subsequently, as the, according to the Bible, the Jews, they, I guess the second generation did go in. They killed most people, but they actually made packs with some others, which in turn, the Bible says that God basically destroyed Israel again or the very least destroyed the Jews again because they made packs with people or groups or others around them that they were not supposed to make packs with, which is still to this day, the parts of the Bible that I am
Starting point is 01:02:20 literally the most confused about. And I think, though, if you listen and you read the Torah, essentially, because that's what basically the first five books of the Bible is, is the Torah, which is the Jewish Bible, you might maybe take perspective of, of why Israel is doing this if you read the first five books of the Bible. I mean, I'm specifically talking about when Israel did not do what God said in the Bible to destroy all things in Canaanite. That was their land. And then they got punished for that.
Starting point is 01:02:54 They had to wait outside of Canaanite for 40 years in the badlands where they were suffering. They had nothing. God basically abandoned them. And then as the new generation came in, they killed a lot of people. but they made packs with others, and then therefore the Bible says basically that, well, then you were destroyed again. And they were destroyed various other times throughout history. Is Israel taking a stance biblically, which I would assume maybe? But if you actually think about the Bible, it kind of makes sense why they might be going all out this time. Does that make
Starting point is 01:03:31 sense, Sam? I mean, does that make any sense what I'm saying? Or are you here? Oh, wait, you know what? Sam, sorry. I literally have you muted. Go ahead. Oh, okay. It makes complete sense. And here's the thing, though. Religion is one of the best tools to manipulate groups of people. Now, do I think that the Jewish people in general that the reason that they feel the way that they feel and they're supporting what they're supporting is because of their religious beliefs? 100%. Do I think that the political regime in Israel, is necessarily acting under that agenda only, I do not. So this is where it gets a little bit hairy, because we deal with that same thing in the United States. Every country deals with that. It's a great way to manipulate people. And so when you're doing anything under the guise of religion, that throws a lot of things out the window when it comes to roadblocks to that. And I had not heard that clip that you played, but it's very much in line with what I was saying that, you know, Originally the American people were sort of sold, so to speak,
Starting point is 01:04:43 on us supporting Israel after October 7th because they need to defend themselves, you know, against Hamas. Now some of the weapons that we're sending, or at least weapons that they have that they've not had to utilize because we've sent them other weapons are being used toward things like bombing this embassy. So to me, that very much feels like an act of provocation. But like I was saying, and like she said, that would be the definition of betrayal for us to now suddenly pull, you know,
Starting point is 01:05:15 they've gotten into this big conflict, especially with Iran, for us to then pull aid and weapons and resources from them. Yeah, how are you even considering that, especially considering how much money we have sent Ukraine? You know what I mean? Like, how does that even make any logical sense whatsoever? Yeah, I mean, yeah. And I think that's what I'm saying about the optics is that I don't think we have much of a leg to stand on at that point.
Starting point is 01:05:40 to say, nope, we're done. And Israel also knows this. So I don't know what the motivations of Benjamin Netanyahu are. But if I wanted to make an argument to say that if you were a political leader who, you know, was wanting to extend your power and have more political gain, would it be a good idea to perhaps utilize religion as a way to get your country and your citizens on board with it. And to your point, also citizens of the greatest superpower in the world, who a lot of them are Christians and also stand with Israel unequivocally. I think that would be something that could possibly work. And that's why this is very nuanced. And I fear that if this is not done for the right reasons, and I think it's becoming a bit more clear day to day that there may be an
Starting point is 01:06:36 alternate agenda. We've kind of backed ourselves into a corner at this point because either way that we go, if we are telling them basically if we even give them an ultimatum that, hey, this has got to be a feastfire and they don't. Or if we just continue funding them, either way, I mean, we're stuck. Whatever they end up doing, we either have to look like we've betrayed them or we end up in whatever conflict they get involved with because, like you said, They can't do this by themselves.
Starting point is 01:07:08 Yeah. And you're right. And to that point, by the way, I want to make sure everyone understands maybe a stark difference in Israel. And in particular, Democrat support. Because, you know, if you go on social media or you go by a Democrats house versus a Republicans' house, you know, you may find a Ukrainian flag on a Democrats house, not a Republican's house. If you go to a Democrat's social media, you'll find a Ukrainian flag in their profile bio. You won't typically see that in Republican bios, right?
Starting point is 01:07:36 But I want to make a very stark difference in Ukraine and Israel. Number one, the amount of money that the U.S. politicians in particular are probably making off of Ukrainian U.S. taxpayer-funded aid packages is absurd. There have been many reports that have come off to say the amount of money, potentially, that U.S. politicians that are heavily voting and funding Ukraine in these bills or these aid packages or whatever the case may be, the amount of money they actually are potentially making in their own pocket is absurd. Now, there are many reports out there. Most of those are being hidden or subdued. Mainstream media obviously is not talking about them. I think that could be an entire episode alone. But even if you think about this, for example, Sam Bankman-Fried,
Starting point is 01:08:30 or fried, however you want to say his name. He's fried now, I guess. But, you know, FTX, that whole scandal, that whole scam. You know, Sam Bankman freed or fried was the number two funder to the Democratic Party over who, George Soros. Now, what is interesting about FTX and that crypto scam? Well, the very interesting thing about that is, number one, Ukrainian government actually set up an FTC. funding account.
Starting point is 01:09:02 So they were being funded by Sam Bankman Fried. They were being heavily funded by Sam Bingman Fried. How much money were the Democrats receiving from the aid packages that went to Ukraine that potentially was going back through the FTX account to Sam Bankman Fried? We don't know. But we do know that Ukrainian government had an FTX account. They literally, I mean, it was public knowledge, or at least it was. I remember seeing these articles that said, yeah, Ukrainian military government, set up FTCS account to help whatever, fund the war, whatever the case was.
Starting point is 01:09:42 What I think it was is I think that Sam Bingman Fried and FTCS actually was setting up the account with Ukraine to fund back Democrats. And you got to remember who was the number two donor to the Democrats? Sam Bankman Fried and FtX. So it's very interesting. But the stark difference here is that Ukraine. does not have direct contracts with companies like Raytheon and Lockheed Martin in the military industrial complex. U.S. typically solely has those contracts, but who is another country that has one of the
Starting point is 01:10:17 largest set of contracts besides the United States to these military industrial complex companies like Raytheon, Lockheed, you name it, the same guys that make all the missiles and bombs and jets and you name it. It's Israel. Israel has those contracts. Okay, so you have direct contracts with Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, and military industrial complex companies. These companies supply Israel with various military equipment and technology, including F-16s, F-35 fighter jets, hellfire missiles, surveillance technology, which are used in conflicts such as the Israel-Hamas war. Also, in addition to that, the U.S. military aid
Starting point is 01:10:56 package agreement with Israel includes provisions for upgrading Israelis. Air Force with Lockheed Martin F-35s and funds for missile defense indicate in a significant relationship between Israel and these three defense contractors. Additionally, in the military industrial complex, including companies like Raytheon, has been reported to benefit from conflicts involving Israel with their stocks and profit spiking during times of conflict, not to mention, obviously, the mass amount of money they're making during these wars. So I think that is a very stark difference.
Starting point is 01:11:26 That's why maybe Democrats would want to pull out, or not really show a lot of support for Israel because Democrats are not making that much money off Israel. And let me quit saying Democrats because it's both. It is Republicans and Democrats. Right now, Democrats are in office, so on and so forth. But yes, there are both sides of the freaking aisle. Republicans and Democrats are making tons of money off the military industrial complex.
Starting point is 01:11:52 But who do they make more money off of? It is 100% Ukraine. It is not Israel because Israel has. has more direct contracts with military industrial complex companies than Ukraine. Does that make sense, Sam? It does. And like I said earlier, the only thing that I am 1,000% convinced of is that whichever way the wind is blowing with these politicians and whatever they're supporting or not supporting, the reason for it has absolutely nothing to do with the welfare of the American people. So whatever the motivation is, whatever the agenda is, and I'm sure it is multi-layered and it's
Starting point is 01:12:29 It definitely involves money and power and corporations and the elite. Wherever those agendas lie, it is for sure to benefit them and not the American people. I mean, I'm almost to the point now where, I mean, we live in a republic, but I do not feel represented. For the most part, there is basically nothing this administration has done that I agree with whatsoever. So it's in, and like we were saying, too, it's almost a uniparty in a lot of ways. You know, you've got both sides of the aisle that are banding together on these different things. And it's like, who are they representing? Because I don't think it's the majority of people.
Starting point is 01:13:14 I mean, if you want to ask people, you know, the polls that they take are like, do you think that Hamas is a terrorist group? And of course people are going to say yes. You know, do you think that Israel had a right to defend itself? Of course, people are going to say yes. But if you really got down into questions of like, do you think that American citizens should be at risk for something that another country decides to do? I don't think you're going to find a lot of people that say yes to that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:40 You're right. I mean, hell, there's a lot of people that probably around the world believe the United States is a terrorist group. I mean, honestly. I'm sure. Yeah. I mean, including Hamas or at least, I guess, people under Hamas, Russians. There's probably a lot of Russians, I believe that, Chinese, North Koreans. you name it.
Starting point is 01:13:59 I mean, it's all based on what your system of education and public information or, I guess, readily available information is. And that's why I got in a space last night with Mario in the Fall and Nick Sorder. And it was a huge space. And I was one of the speakers last night. And this was specifically based on the Brazil and Elon Musk situation to where Brazil wants to ban. I think they have actually.
Starting point is 01:14:27 technically right now, they have banned X in Brazil. And this is because that what is going on in Brazil is going against freedom of speech. They are censoring major accounts on X. It is a massive problem for them in Brazil because when you have people that can openly discourse back and forth and they can talk to each other, they can figure things out, that is a major issue for the powers of be. Because I think that no matter who you talk to, you could go and talk to a potential Hamas terrorist when he's young.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Maybe 10 years later he grows up to be a Hamas terrorist. But if you could have the opportunity to show him the world through a different lens, you could show him the actual world, reality, who people are, who other countries are, or at least just a, you know, instead of just labeling one whole entire population of people, one thing, right? But you could show this person like actual discourse, like, hey, let's talk back and forth. You know how many people you could say from extremism, terrorism, all of this stuff?
Starting point is 01:15:44 I mean, yeah, and more than likely, they're going to turn on the people that are above them. They're oppressors because the oppressors are usually the ones that are above you. It is not someone in another country, although, yes, at times it is. Absolutely. When you invade another country, you become the oppressors. You become the terrorist. But oftentimes, the terrorists and the oppressors are right at your back door. They are the ones above you that are listening to your conversations. They're the ones that are blocking you or censoring you on social media. There are the ones that if you say the wrong thing in a text message, they know it. These are the actual oppressors. And unfortunately, the leaders above all of these nations or groups of people, they are the ones that are causing all of the bullshit. They're the ones that are starting wars. They're the ones that hate other countries.
Starting point is 01:16:40 If all of us actually got together without all of the bullshit, without all of any of the noise that we hear or see on a daily basis on news, on social media, you're supposed to hate these people or these people or these people or these are terrorists these are not just imagine like hanging out with these people you know what I mean like imagine taking a year and everyone hangs out with someone completely different than they are you maybe maybe you hang out with potential terrorists growing up or you know or whatever the cases but I'm telling you the world would be so much different and the problem with this the problem with this world is not the people it is the people over the people that's the problem of this one hundred percent
Starting point is 01:17:21 I always think about Peter Santonello, anybody who's listening who doesn't know who that is, you should look him up on YouTube. I always think about him just traveling all around the world. I mean, even, I want to say he's even been to Iran. I'm pretty sure he has. Thanks. And I mean, everywhere he's went, it's just literally been normal people that have welcomed him into their culture. And it's just been low-key, just hanging out with these people. and they are just like us at the end of the day.
Starting point is 01:17:52 They just live in a different place. They do things differently. They speak differently, dressed differently, et cetera. Yeah. Imagine, I was thinking about this as you were talking just now, imagine how different the United States would likely feel overall right now about what's going on with Israel if it were happening in 1995. Yeah. The ability to control, you know, geopolitics and agendas at that time was so,
Starting point is 01:18:20 much easier because we were only allowed to know what was on the seven o'clock news. And at this point, we may already be in a hot war with Iran. And under the guys that, you know, we have to protect Israel and that they're, you know, antagonizing Israel, they're attacking them or whatever and not mentioning, you know, this attack that I really feel like was a provocation of the embassy, they're able to shield any information that they want. And there's a lot of countries that that still happens in. And so to your point, you know, that's how we end up with extremists and whatnot. And there probably are a lot of people around the world
Starting point is 01:18:56 who do feel like the United States are also terrorists. Yet here you and I sit talking about this with completely different opinions and maybe even our neighbors down the street or whatever. And we don't support, like I just told you, I don't feel like anything the administration is doing represents my
Starting point is 01:19:12 views or beliefs. And yet I'm getting lumped in with whatever Biden is doing, just as an American from the way that a lot of the world sees us. Yeah. Now you're right. And I want to play a quick clip here, too, because I think, you know, I'm going to ask you your thoughts on this.
Starting point is 01:19:33 Although this is always, you know, a very contested subject, but I think we're going to talk about it. But this is what Trump had to say about Joe Biden when he gave Iran 10 billion. He warned that Obama employees was going to. to start a major Middle East conflict by giving this money. I want to play this. And let's see how accurate you guys think this speech was. It's very short. It's about two minutes long, but it's worth listening to. Here you go. And Obama has plenty to do with it. Obama has plenty to do with it. I call him, I call him Biden's boss. But he's plenty to do with it. Very, very,
Starting point is 01:20:12 very serious. We are in very, very grave danger of having a World War III. and this will be a war, this will be a war of obliteration. This will not be a war with, I say, army tanks going back and forth shooting at each other. This is the real deal. And we have a man that, he can't even walk off a stage. He walks off a stage. He finishes his speech. He looks, well, he can't fight.
Starting point is 01:20:41 He has no idea. You know, there's always a stair there, a stair here. You could even walk off the front jump or something. He usually walks to the front. He usually walks to the back into a wall. Yeah. There's a wall there. He walks right into a wall.
Starting point is 01:20:54 Can't walk off the stage. Can't put two sentences together. And yet he's negotiating with President Xi of China, who when I say he's very smart, the press, look at, that's a lot of press back there. That's a lot. So for him to negotiate with President Xi of China is like my high school football team playing the let's see what's a good team nowadays philadelphia's good you know they change a little bit
Starting point is 01:21:24 i used to say new england i used to say the patriots i'd love to be able to say the patriots he's a great guy great coach but uh they have a little hard time but uh what's going on with the patriots huh but he is he's a great he's a great coach all right so you get it you get the gist of this you know we have a president that is obviously very, very mentally declined. And I got to be honest, man. Like, I, we, if we don't have a president like Trump back in the office to fix somehow what the hell is going on in this world, I think we're screwed. And I just don't care anymore what people think about Trump or not.
Starting point is 01:22:10 I do know that, you know, I remember when he was running and all this, they were saying, No, he's going to start nuclear war. He's going to start a world war. He has the nuclear button. Oh, you can't let him near the nuclear button. You can't let him near politics. You can't let him near the White House. And literally everything they tried to warn you about with him is happening now.
Starting point is 01:22:30 I mean, and it's almost like every single thing they say today. The end of democracy is if Trump gets in, even though technically we're facing in more ways than ever in the democracy for us. we're facing far more censorship. We're facing far more dictatorship possibilities or at least tyrannical situations. What is your stance on that, Sam? In terms of Trump or? Yeah, just, I mean, yeah, I mean, it don't necessarily have to be Trump. But what is your thoughts on Trump, honestly?
Starting point is 01:23:10 Well, I think I mentioned this on the last podcast that, we did. I actually did not vote in the last election because I at the time really just could not support either one of them. I mean, I went back and forth for so long and thought about, you know, voting one as a protest vote or the other over the other and just really just couldn't. At this point in time, I'm an RFK junior supporter, but I don't know what his campaign is going to look like come November. He may not even be on the ballot. I'm in North Carolina. Yeah. 100% at this point, I would vote for Trump. We cannot sustain another four years of Biden.
Starting point is 01:23:48 And whether it be Obama or just the like managerial class or whomever it is that's calling the shots, I don't know who it is, but it's definitely not Joe Biden for sure. I mean, he's, I don't, I don't think he knows where he is half of the time. And it is very disconcerting. I mean, Trump has a great point that he is the face of America and he is the one that whether they're puppeteering him or not, he is the physical person that is sitting in these meetings, you know,
Starting point is 01:24:18 with dictators. And in a time right now where the world is very unstable, I mean, we haven't even talked really about Ukraine and Russia, NATO and all of that, but there's a lot happening right now. And I definitely think if we have ever been on the precipice of World War III, we are getting there right now. And with him being our leader,
Starting point is 01:24:40 that is just terrifying. It is scary. I mean, and you're right, we have to do something. Something drastically has to change and I'm just not, you know, I'm very concerned. I'm very concerned for the election because, you know, I'm one of those people that I just think that without going into too much detail. I think 2020 was a little screwy and or a lot, actually. I truly believe that, by the way. I'm not just saying that to be a conspiracy theorist or whatever.
Starting point is 01:25:15 I genuinely think something was crazy in 2020. And if I'm right, which I may not be, right, I could be wrong, 100%. Could be 100% wrong about that. But if I am right about that in any way, shape, or form, we are 100% screwed in 2024. like 100%. Because if you think that they got worse at that shit in four years, especially how bad things have been in the past four years, how much control three-letter intelligence agencies have,
Starting point is 01:25:52 how much they just disregard the Constitution and literally just spit in the American people's faces. I mean, this is what's happening. I mean, we're on a daily basis just like, It's like they, it's like they just piss on you and then laugh at you. And then, and then, and dare you to do something. They dare you. They say, I dare you to say a damn word to me when I piss on you.
Starting point is 01:26:21 That's what American people feel like. At least, at least people that are awake. At least people to actually see what the hell is going on. And I don't know that we'll ever have a perfect candidate in office in the United States. But what I can say is that they always, want you to believe the lie that no matter who the present is, it doesn't affect me. It doesn't affect me who the president is. It 100% affects you who the president is.
Starting point is 01:26:46 And if you have not seen that over the past four years, I don't know what you're going to, I don't know what you need to see. I mean, I'm talking about literally everything has went ass backwards. It, like right now is worse than during COVID as far as almost in every metric. I'm talking about inflation. I'm talking about world politics. We're talking about world wars. I mean, every single thing is worse now than even it was during COVID.
Starting point is 01:27:16 Yeah. And you know, I think you could also say, though, that it's not necessarily just the president that affects you directly. Because in this situation, I don't think it's the president at all. I do think he is simply just a figurehead. And, you know, talking about the 24th. election, you know, take out all of the overt actions of ballot boxes and mail and ballots and all that stuff. 100% the media manipulated that election. And they are certainly not slowing down on that front. You know, I can't tell you how many times a day I hear Trump is a threat to democracy,
Starting point is 01:27:51 threat to democracy. And like you're saying, the irony of that is that the left is the biggest threat to democracy. The fact that CNN won't even air, you know, Trump's speeches because they don't want to platform him. He's a presidential candidate. What are you talking about? Like, that's absurd. That should tell you how much, that should tell you how much control our current government has over media.
Starting point is 01:28:15 Yes, 100%. And that's why, you know, I am so glad that we live in the ages we do now, where we do have social media and we do have these platforms and, you know, this podcast and whatnot, and you have a large audience. Because even though it's, I feel like we're having to like hang on to that, like, tooth and nail right now. Without that, we are left to only just listen to what we're told. And one thing I will say is that I do believe that if Trump were in office right now, we would not be in the situation that we're in. I don't know exactly how things would look with Ukraine or with Israel.
Starting point is 01:28:48 I don't think it would have stopped Hamas from attacking. But to what I was saying earlier, I do not think if Trump were in office right now that Israel would have bombed the embassy in Syria. Yeah, that's true. I don't think they would have done it because I think they would have known that Trump would have, wouldn't have just sat back and said, I've already said, we're going to back you 100%. We'll do whatever you want because Trump is not that guy. And Netanyahu knows that. You know, Putin knows that.
Starting point is 01:29:18 Zelensky knows that. Everyone knows this. And Net and Yahoo, by the way, during Trump's term, to your point, Netanyahu is like Trump's little bitch kind of. Like, I mean, you know. Let's be honest. Everybody is Trump's a little bit. Yeah. And that's why, like, no one, I mean, he's just unhinged enough that, like, other, no, like, well, he may not do that, but he may do that.
Starting point is 01:29:42 You know, it was enough of a little bit of, like, bipolar in him that people are at least on guard and they're thinking about things before they do it. Yeah, I mean, it's like, you know, I think the why, I mean, the why of why world leaders, we didn't have issues was because, they knew they was potentially just crazy enough to be as crazy as they were, right? And maybe even more. And the fact that he went, you know, I will never forget. I mean, I think, you know, regardless of how history plays out Trump, I think one of the most historical images you could ever see is Trump literally crossing between South Korea and North Korea and shaking Kim Jong-un's hand. And the media went absolutely batshit crazy. saying that he is a North Korea sympathizer and all this crazy shit.
Starting point is 01:30:35 But what I can tell you is that when he did this and he went over and shook his hand, met with Kim Jong-un. Kim Jong-un was even like, hey, this dude's kind of cool dude, you know? And Kim Jong-un didn't do shit for the entire presidency of Trump. Literally, as soon as Biden came in, he was firing missiles again. A little missile man, I think, is what Trump calls him or whatever the hell he calls him. And, but that just shows, number one, it shows balls. Like if you are a, if you're an alpha wolf in a woods, right, or in any situation,
Starting point is 01:31:11 and you have a rival wolf or gang or whatever, and you're always going to shy away from them, you're just going to talk shit about them in the background, just, you know, keep talking shit about them, but never actually face them and be like, hey, here's who I am, motherfucker. I'm from the United States and I'm Trump. And I'm going to come over and talk to you, but just know. that like, you know, we're the United States, bro. And I think that's what he did.
Starting point is 01:31:35 I think he did that with China. He did that with North Korea. He did that across the world. And to your point, absolutely. Could Trump have deterred Hamas from attacking Israel? Probably not. But I at the very least think that, you know, it would have been a different, maybe response potentially, not even response.
Starting point is 01:31:57 I think initially you got to do what you got to do. but at the very least more and likely the United States would have worked with Israel more closely to develop a better plan in certain situations. And also they would have heavily coordinated with Israel. I don't think the United States is coordinating shit with Israel. I mean, I don't know. Maybe they are. I think we're just writing checks.
Starting point is 01:32:16 That's what I'm saying. I mean, it's just like we support you do what you got to do. I mean, it's literally what we told them in the beginning. And the thing with Trump is, I do think in the beginning, absolutely, he would have said you have to defend yourselves. He would have worked with them. But what's happening now of almost this taking advantage of the American support, this would not. I recently gave an interview and basically said, Israel, you need to wrap it up. And we've got to get back to peace.
Starting point is 01:32:46 And people on each side of that have determined it two different ways. Some people are saying that that means he's calling for a ceasefire. Other people are saying that he's basically telling Israel do everything you've got to do to kill them all, whatever you're going to do. I mean, on either side, people like to twist his words. But I don't have any doubt that right now, we would not be in a position where we are, quote, unquote, urging for a ceasefire. Trump would either be, you're going to, this is stopping, or we're supporting you. And if we say a ceasefire and you don't, money is gone.
Starting point is 01:33:17 I mean, that's the way he operates. The biggest criticism of him is that he's a narcissist. Well, guess what? Any political leader. Well, even as a billionaire, I mean, have you ever met a lot of billionaires? Holy shit. For sure.
Starting point is 01:33:31 I mean, that's anyone who wakes up and says, you know what, I think I can lead the entire United States. You have to be a narcissist to think that way. But all of these other leaders that he's dealing with are also narcissists. And if there's anyone who can deal with and have power over a narcissist, it's a better narcissist. And, you know, they say, well, all he cares about at the end of the day is what's good for Trump. Okay, fun. You know what?
Starting point is 01:33:55 Seems like you miscalculated that. well, he wants his legacy to be that he's the greatest American president. Yeah. So if that's his personal agenda is to do whatever needs to be done so that he comes out looking like that, then it's still going to be in the best interest of the American people. And the funny thing about that is is that by ever being considered in this day and age to be the greatest living American president ever, you have to go against every single absolute faction or agency that is set up. Because if you are a true American president for the people, you are against basically everything in Washington right now, currently.
Starting point is 01:34:41 You're against everything. And there's no way you can be a good president to the people by being a good president to the politicians. but you can't you you just can't do that and I think it shows he is so see he is absolutely so under attack and and if people don't realize why I don't know I don't know what to tell him I mean I really don't if if if people think Trump is the worst president in history and you might want to just start looking at some shit is all I know is it's a very weird time to be alive and I've never like I said I've never said that you know Trump's the best person or any of that shit.
Starting point is 01:35:20 It doesn't matter. We just have to worry about us right now. And Trump did that very well. And what I can say is like, you know, people that are out, like, for example, a few days ago, I was like, you know, I'm looking at e-bikes because I was like, shit, I want to bike, but I don't want to, like, necessarily do it, like, hardcore. So, like, I want to be able to do it hardcore, but, like, if I'm dying after, like, seven miles, like, I can just turn that little.
Starting point is 01:35:48 Yeah, I can just turn that. Yeah, I can just turn that shit. on get back home instead of calling 911. But yeah, I mean, I was thinking about that. I was like, you know, our everyday lives, the things that we talk about and do on a daily basis, if you like playing golf or you like going fishing or camping or spending time of your family and friends and all this stuff, you have to understand that who is in office and our government is directly related to your future.
Starting point is 01:36:17 Like, are you going to be able to do those things? And I'm talking directly to people about the current situation of the world. I don't think most people realize how close we actually are to a World War annihilation type scenario. And I'm talking about if we all just look out in the world and we just trust all the leaders in the world that there's no way they're actually going to use some nuclear warhead and start a nuclear war. because, I mean, they care about their own people, right?
Starting point is 01:36:50 I mean, they care about themselves. Have you not seen what a lot of countries do? I mean, hell, look at the big debate in Israel about killing all these civilians. That's Israel. But think about, you know, Russia, thinking about how many civilians the United States have killed and China in various wars and whatever. Do you really think they give a shit about your life at all? Do you think they care about whether you want to get a e-bike or go fishing or go camping
Starting point is 01:37:16 or actually having normal life, they don't. I think all countries have made that very, very clear. And unfortunately now, we're in a situation where things are very rapidly escalating. And it's just so strange because I thought that Russia-Ukraine situation might head this off as far as the actual hot war with Russia or at the very least a world conflict. And I don't know. It depends on what happens with Iran. But what I can say is Anthony Bleaking came out the other day.
Starting point is 01:37:50 And it was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're definitely going to be ushering in Ukraine into NATO. And, you know, it's just like we are just, you know, it's like a pit bull in a skinny little fence. And you're just on the other side of this fence just talking shit and like throwing shit at him continuously and be like, come on. attack. And eventually when he attacks it's like, oh, shit, he attacked me. I wonder why. Well, I almost think we're to the point at this point that I think for a while it just seemed like maybe we weren't great at preventing these things from happening. And now, I mean, it almost feels intentional. Yeah. Like, why, this is what blows my mind about this whole NATO situation with Ukraine.
Starting point is 01:38:40 NATO has criteria for nations to join. And up until this point, and still at this point, Ukraine apparently does not meet the criteria that I don't think it's necessarily a written checklist, but it's sort of an understood list of things that are required. They still don't meet the criteria for NATO to actually invite them in. If they did, they'd already be in. and yet we still find it necessary for some reason to make statements like this. Like, why did we even say that? It's not as if we're bringing them in now. And we already know for sure.
Starting point is 01:39:24 I mean, Putin has been in no uncertain terms. In fact, in very specific terms, has said, this is a red line. This will escalate to World War III. we have nuclear power. You know, they claim to have more, you know, modern nuclear components than anywhere else in the world. I don't think that's necessarily true. But I'm sure they have a lot and they definitely have enough to start
Starting point is 01:39:52 a world war that could just be cataclysmic. Yeah. And like you're saying, nonetheless, like we're still just poking the bear. And I don't even know what the benefit of it is. That's what I, I mean, And as much as I've looked into this and as much as I keep up with this and have for a couple of years, I don't see any advantage to what we're doing other than we want to enter into a hot war with Russia. Well, if you believe, if you believe in basic logic of how you change an entirety of something, what must you first do? You have to break it down, right?
Starting point is 01:40:34 And, you know, that's the marine logic for sure, right? When new recruits go to Camp Lejeune or sorry, Paris Island or I think there's another one, was it Camp Pendleton maybe or whatever the one in California is. But, you know, when new Marine recruits go to boot camp, you know, the number one goal on agenda is to break you down. And then once they completely break you of who you ever thought you might be, then they're going to make you into who they want you to be. And so if you look at the world in the whole, especially if you look at it from a globalist agenda.
Starting point is 01:41:11 And listen, I truly, truly, truly believe that the big play here behind everything is a globalist agenda. I truly, truly do. I know that sounds like a big conspiracy, but it's not. I don't think it does anymore. I truly believe it is a globalist move. And the only way you can start, the only way you can start something that major is to break everything down. And I think we're seeing it around the world. I mean, there are definitely countries that are holding out and being very strong and firm into this, right?
Starting point is 01:41:45 And I would say probably the two biggest countries that are standing firm against that is probably China and, obviously, you'd have to say North Korea, probably and maybe Russia, even though China is very interesting because China is a very interesting. because China is involved in a lot of global groups, you know, like UN, for example. I think China predominantly is involved in UN because they feel like they have or actually China is also not only just involved more heavily in UN, but they are also heavily involved in the World Health Organization. But I think that's also because they want massive influence over those agendas. Because I think China knows the push for a globalist narrative. And so to their, I guess, play to their strategy is, well, we got to be involved in that heavily, up until at least we can no longer be involved without our sovereignty or not sovereignty, but their nationalism being at stake.
Starting point is 01:42:47 That's honestly the only reason I think that China and in particular China, though, in this case, that are heavily involved in these global organizations. and but the United States, oh, holy hell, man, they are all on board. Canada, Europe, Australia, Brazil. You look at all these countries. It is rapidly changing. And so then you get to think about, okay, well, think about why NATO and the West and all these countries that are 100% all on board, apparently, with a globalist agenda. Why do they hate China so much?
Starting point is 01:43:24 Why do they hate Russia so much? why do they want to go to war with these damn countries so much? Even Iran, by the way, in large bar. Iran is very nationalist. They care about their country. They don't give a shit about the globalist agenda. They want their own shit, their own religion, their own belief system. They hate the West.
Starting point is 01:43:42 They hate the globalist narrative. So does Russia. So does China. Okay. Kind of starts making a little bit sense if you're thinking of it from a globalist position, right? Yeah, definitely. It's just interesting. man, this whole thing is very interesting.
Starting point is 01:44:03 Guys, listen, we're definitely going to update you as this happens, right? Because I think that Iran is heavily, and to Sam's point earlier, by the way, I think Iran has to respond because they have no choice. What level of response will that be? We don't know yet. but I would assume that if I'm sitting in a situation room with Iran with leaders or whatever, they're probably thinking, okay, well, how do we respond? How much do we respond? And how extensive is this? And then what is the retaliation going to be? How much does the U.S. get involved? So on and so forth. And they are actually talking this out, probably right now as we speak,
Starting point is 01:44:48 if they have not already made the decision on what they're going to do. Could it be nothing? very, very doubtful, very doubtful. Because as Sam said, there are people like, how the hell are you going to let people, you know, Israel attack our leaders and get away with it? Because then it makes them look weak. It makes them look weak around the world. And so they can't allow that. But how far do they go in their response to Israel?
Starting point is 01:45:15 We don't know. But more specifically, how far will the United States go to defend Iran? I mean, sorry, Israel. But then also how far would China potentially go, depending on if this situation rapidly escalates, how far will Russia and China go to defend Iran? This could be the lead off to nuclear war or to a World War III type situation. We hope not, obviously. I mean, we were thinking the whole time, man, this is Russia, Ukraine for sure. But now the Middle East stuff is popping off.
Starting point is 01:45:49 We got to monitor it very closely. Sam, you got anything else for us before we go? The only other thing I will say is that, as we've said a couple times, that everyone around the world knows that Israel cannot stand up against Iran on its own. It is very well known that it is only with the help of the United States. So as they're sitting in these situation rooms tonight in Iran, and they're considering what they're going to do and how they're going to retaliate, because I 100%, there's no way they're not going to respond.
Starting point is 01:46:21 this they have to. They're thinking, they're probably really considering this more so as if they're attacking the United States, not necessarily Israel, because they know at the end of the day, it's really us. And here we sit with probably the weakest administration that the United States has had perhaps this century. And you better believe that they're taking that into account. No, for sure. I was trying to find this one quote. here and it said what it say yeah so
Starting point is 01:46:58 urgent U.S. Department of Defense official told Al Jazeera coordination with Israel in response to Iran's threats is taking place at the highest of levels currently so they are coordinating with Israel because they believe
Starting point is 01:47:15 the Iran's attack is imminent and so this already tells you as Sam just said this is not just a conflict with Iran and Israel. This is a direct conflict with the United States. And they know that. They 100% know that, but they also don't really have a choice but to respond. Although they tried to give the United States a opportunity,
Starting point is 01:47:38 which in some ways makes it worse for them because you give the United States an opportunity or a, I guess, ultimatum to say you either strike a peace deal or a ceasefire between this conflict. between Israel and Hamas, or we're going to respond. So now it just escalates the situation a step further, because now there are people are like, well, you've got to respond now. You have to. Yeah. Well, you know, the thing is, in regard to that, that tells you that, like, Iran really
Starting point is 01:48:10 does not want to get wrapped up with the United States. I mean, they're not stupid, right? That's not, this is the same as, like, Israel attacking them. They really don't want to mess with us. It's not in their best interest. But it's sort of like the analogy I made earlier with the teenager. You know, it's kind of like, they're like, hey, get your kid under control or like, we're going to have to do something about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:31 So they're trying, you know, they have to do something. They have to save face in some sort of way. That's imperative. Yeah, for sure. And by putting it back in the United States and at least, you know, giving us some sort of ultimatum, they could still get a win out of that because then it looks like, you know, to the Muslim world that they have. helped with striking a ceasefire. And that's a win for them as well. And that could be a win for everybody.
Starting point is 01:48:59 But unfortunately, our response to that instead of saying, yep, that's a good idea for us too, was to say, Iran, we're coming after you, ironclad behind Israel, do what you got to do. You know, we're going to be at your front door. And to me, again, that's not in the best interest of the American people. And that is what is just abundantly clear every single day.
Starting point is 01:49:21 Yeah, there's so much going on. Oh, man. By the way, guys, I do have to tell you, we are on X. So if you want to see everything as is breaking, please go follow us on X. We are on X. We do participate in spaces. We were in a big space last night with Mario in the fall and Nick Sorter. And I believe Eric Weinstein was in there, Brett Weinstein.
Starting point is 01:49:44 Quite a few people, but it was a great time. We do break a lot of stuff over there on a daily basis. also our Facebook. We have a great family over on our Facebook. You guys can follow us over there on our personal. We post more personal stuff because Facebook would ban us if we talk about basically anything. But if you want to see kind of our personal life, our everyday life, our pictures, our updates, whatever. Go follow us there.
Starting point is 01:50:06 We do have a Rumble, which we're doing videos and we're doing live streams over on Rumble. Make sure you follow us there. And we have a telegram. Make sure you follow us there. And that is a great way for you to chat with everyone. It's a very direct way to message us and get. right with us as we're as we're kind of figuring out what we're doing so many of you guys have given us so many great ideas over there sam you're one of those over there by the way
Starting point is 01:50:30 i think telegrams a cool way to communicate with everyone um but yeah i we're going to monitor this whole entire situation uh we got a lot to talk about over the next couple weeks i mean we're talking about bird flu is this the next pandemic uh there are scientists and doctors experts quote-unquote that are warning that this could be 10 times worse than COVID. And so we don't 100% know what is going to happen with the bird flu. But it seems like they're starting to ramp up the scare tactics. On the bird flu, there's just a lot going on, guys. But with Sherry's surgery, by the way, I want to personally say thank you for everyone that has reached out and said your well wishes and prayers and everything else.
Starting point is 01:51:16 It's meant a lot to her and me. It's been stressful for me as well. But we are getting through it. Hopefully it helps her. That's the main thing. And Sam, we definitely appreciate you coming on and co-hosting this tonight for us. I appreciate it. And I will also give you a plug about the telegram.
Starting point is 01:51:32 I did not even have the app until you guys got on it. I downloaded it. You were literally the only thing I interact with on there. Me too. So as a listener to all of the other listeners right now, I highly recommend downloading it. The chat is awesome. It's very much real time. And it's really cool to talk with like-minded people.
Starting point is 01:51:50 All of us, I think, that listen and enjoy this podcast, pretty much think along the same lines. So 100% recommend. Yeah, absolutely. There's so many people on there that just do so good of keeping everyone updated. And Sam, you're one of them and Adam and there's so many of them. You guys are doing a great job over there. We appreciate it so very much. But, guys, that is going to do it for us.
Starting point is 01:52:11 I'm going to roll us out with Mike. Oldfield. And the name of the star, or star, sorry, not star. The name of a song is nuclear. And we've played this on other World War III episodes before. Although this is going to be specifically about Iran and Israel. But is this what we're facing? We don't know. But we're probably going to quickly find out. But nonetheless, wait, I need to make sure this exoplan. Okay, okay. It is plain. Sorry. I am a shitty producer night, guys. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:52:47 It has been a very long couple of days. Sam, thank you again for coming on. And guys, we love all of you. Until next time. The crater, like the prophets once said, and the ashes are all cold now. No more bullets. And the embers are dead.
Starting point is 01:53:18 Tell the tales of the brothers gone Desolation devastation What a mess we made When it all was Watching From the after circus For the games to begin
Starting point is 01:53:59 gladiators draw their swords from me

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