Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Iran War Escalates | Who’s Really Pulling Trump’s Strings?

Episode Date: July 20, 2026

The Iran war is escalating fast, and the biggest question may not be what happens next, but who is really driving it. In this episode, we break down the latest attacks, the deaths of three U.S. servic...e members, the growing threat of a ground invasion, and why Donald Trump appears to have shifted away from his campaign promises of no new wars.We also look at the power players behind the scenes, the pressure surrounding the Strait of Hormuz, and whether this conflict is being pushed toward a much larger war. Is this about national security, political survival, foreign influence, or something deeper? Tonight, we follow the money, the alliances, and the decisions that brought the United States to this point.Visit Our Merch Store

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Rivers run dry, dust spreads in the air. To dark days, do you have a peer to spear? Hello and welcome back to Investigator with podcast. I'm your host chat alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. Tonight we're diving into a story that's becoming more serious by the day. The fighting between the United States and Iran continues to escalate. American service members have now lost their lives yet again. Military strikes are expanding and questions are growing about whether
Starting point is 00:00:54 this stage a regional conflict or turns into something much bigger. Tonight we'll break down what's happened, what's being reported, and where this could all be headed. One of the biggest questions, though, tonight is whether a ground invasion of Iran is even a realistic possibility, or if both sides are trying to avoid crossing that line. We'll also talk about the Strait of Hermuz, the latest military developments, and separate the facts from the rumors, because there's no shortage of both of that right now all over social media. Guys, welcome back to the show. The name of the song is Riot by Blood Red Sun. And we had to do this episode because of the fact that over the past few days, when I'm on social media or I'm hearing the reports of what's actually going on, obviously I ran just the day before yesterday struck a United States base in Jordan, killing two soldiers, critically wounding many others.
Starting point is 00:01:43 There are many soldiers that were medevacked out of there, so we don't know the condition of them as we speak. there is likely going to be some more fatalities because of that strike in Jordan. We just have not heard it yet. Then there was another U.S. service member, I believe, today that died in some type of situation in Iraq. It almost seemed like they were trying to dispose of a drone that was downed and something happened during that. And one service member lost their lives. Others were injured as well. But the big thing with tonight is, and what we're going to talk about, is where is this war going?
Starting point is 00:02:17 or, you know, is this going to expand into a much bigger, full-scale war to where we have troops on the ground from the United States and even Iran potentially bringing troops into the equation because I'm going to tell you, Iran just recently threatened that if they have to send ground troops into the strait of Hormuz, and there's also another choke point in the same general area, they will do so. And you might say, well, that would be dumb on Iran's part because, you know, they have no, they stand no chance against the United States military or our air superiority. You may be right, but then you also have to think about how long it took the United States to establish any kind of strongholds in Afghanistan.
Starting point is 00:03:03 In Afghanistan is a big one because obviously Afghanistan is nowhere close to the military might and power that Iran has. They don't even have close to the amount of soldiers that Iran has. Same exact thing with Iraq. Iraq had a decent military. But it still didn't compare to Iran. And it seems like the United States is way in their options as far as would it be feasible for us to send ground troops into Iran, especially if things do not go the way that we want them to. Because I don't know if you guys remember all of the talk we've been hearing over the past six to eight months. However long this thing has been going on, you have Trump going on all of the mainstream media channels and saying, we have destroyed their capabilities.
Starting point is 00:03:44 their rockets are gone. We have completely taken out their ability to enrich uranium and to ever create a nuclear bomb. And then a week later, he's like, well, we can't allow Iran to have a nuke. So we got to go attack them again. And then they said, we destroyed everything again. And then a week later, he's like, well, we had to hit him again because we can't allow them to have a nuclear bomb.
Starting point is 00:04:06 This is just literally a repeated cycle. And in this equation now, and we've talked about this on the podcast. podcast before in previous to this one is that China is involved and China is not just involved with their insight, their strategy, but they're also supplying potentially weapons and technology to Iran to not only help Iran counter some of our missile defense systems at our U.S. bases, but also to help certain missiles or certain intercontinental ballistic missiles to penetrate not just U.S. air based defense systems, but also potentially, especially Israeli Iron Dome air defense systems.
Starting point is 00:04:48 And China has a large plethora of hypersonic missiles. And we are still kind of just waiting to see what is going to happen. Because in the event that Iran decides to take out a U.S. aircraft carrier or one of our big battleships where we house thousands of U.S. troops, that is very possible. And it can be done, especially with hypersonic missiles. I mean, you're talking about hypersonic missiles that travel beyond the speed of sound and is very hard to defend against. And none of our aircraft carriers or any of our systems that we know of anyway are easily able to defend against that. So we're going to talk about everything tonight and where this is headed and what the real dangers are. Everything just validates what I was thinking before as far as China being a proxy to Iran.
Starting point is 00:05:41 because when we listened to, you know, Trump's address to the people the other night, he said that China was the one that was heavily involved in the 2020 election fraud, making all the votes go towards Biden and not Trump. And this whole time, we thought it was the Democrats that were doing all this. They were getting all these people to put in these fake ballots and all these things. But according to what Trump's saying in all the files they released, they said China was behind all of that. So that just validates the point that they are a proxy.
Starting point is 00:06:16 And plus, you know, it sounds like China wanted Trump dead before he was even president again. And that didn't happen. So they had to try to do other things. But I also was curious when you said three people were dead this weekend. So does that mean it's a total of nine altogether or was it three? I mean, what is it? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:39 So here's the other thing about the death. the death count, I guess, during this conflict between the United States, Israel and Iran. Now, Iran has claimed on their various media channels that they have killed at least hundreds of U.S. service members, potentially even thousands. And obviously, the United States has continually downplayed that, said that is absolutely not the case. There's only been this many that have died. But then there are some experts and some whistleblowers that have come out and said that they
Starting point is 00:07:05 think the fatality or the casualty count is much higher. So we don't know. And the reality of this situation is with propaganda, like you're going to hear on both sides, you're not going to reveal in typical fashion how many lost you have versus anything else. Same thing with Iran. Iran will never give details about how many people the United States have killed in their military. That's just not what you do for propaganda, for morale, for everything. For your nation, you don't want your nation to think that you're losing. So obviously you're going to come out and make the best case scenario that you are winning this war, that you are pounding it to the United States or America. That's what Iran's going to do.
Starting point is 00:07:45 And of course, that is what the United States has been doing, which is exactly why we were saying it seems like every other week we supposedly completely demolished Iran. And then two weeks later, we have to hit them again. And then we completely demolish them again. It just doesn't make any sense. We continue to say, well, we've completely destroyed all capabilities for a nuclear bomb. This is what actually was said during the Operation Midnight Hammer, which was the very first time the United States even touched Iran with any actual weaponry. And then, of course, Israel got us into the full scale type conflict that we are seeing today. They did that because even Marker Rubio, if we all remember from previous episodes, when Markerubio came down the stairs in the Capitol building and there were a line of reporters waiting.
Starting point is 00:08:32 And he said, well, Israel basically said, we're going to do it whether you like it or not, and we did it. So we had no choice but to react because we have to protect our assets and our soldiers in the region. And for those that do not know, the amount of military bases in the Middle East from the United States and the amount of service members in the Middle East is a lot. We're talking about thousands of U.S. service members. We're talking about billions, if not trillions of dollars worth of weaponry and technology and aircraft, you name it. We have them all over the Middle East. And so regardless of why we actually got into it, whether it was the fact that Israel did actually go and hit, you know, hit Iran first and then we had no choice, which it seems like that's what happened. But at the very least is, you know, probably a month and a half ago or two months ago.
Starting point is 00:09:20 And we've talked about this on the podcast. When Trump finally started to come out against Israel and start saying shit like he should have said when he's basically saying, look, we don't really trust Israel. you know, we would rather this ISIS terrorist guy that's that we appointed in Syria. And I think that's where they bombed. Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt. But I think that's where they bombed this weekend with the other area was Syria. Yeah. I mean, they've been hitting them.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Yeah, because I was thinking to myself, I wonder if that new guy that Trump appointed is pissed off that they hit Syria. Yeah, but the reality is it doesn't really matter whether he's pissed off or not. They don't really have any new technology or mainstream or main scale weaponry like the United United States or Iran or anything. I mean, all they have is their guns and bombs and shit that they can go into your country and wreak havoc. That's what they do. That's why he inserted a terrorist to lead basically the militia in Syria because that's
Starting point is 00:10:16 essentially what it is. That's a huge militia is very similar to what Hamas is and the Houthis and Hezbollah, you know, the people that Israel hates and they want to completely destroy and take off the face of the map. well, in the same sense, the United States essentially created another version of that in Syria with appointing this head of ISIS to basically bring all of his terrorists in and then create his own little military. And, you know, it still doesn't make any sense to me because those people are still killing
Starting point is 00:10:47 Christians in Syria. And it seems like we don't care about that. But as long as we have whoever we want in there, which is the ISIS leader, if any of you remember how we had talked about multiple times the United States, including Obama and Lindsey Graham and various other leaders throughout the past 25 to 30 years, we are the ones that created these terrorist groups. We are the ones that funded them. We are the ones that armed them.
Starting point is 00:11:15 And we are the ones that created the Satan that they tell you that we must take out and we must fight and we must defend our homeland against. and it's just interesting, right? And the same thing with how Israel frames us. Israel always frames it as to the point where, hey, everybody around us, Hamas, Hasbalah, the Houthis, they hate us because we're Jews. And they just want to kill all Jews. We are innocent. We've never done anything wrong.
Starting point is 00:11:44 And so therefore, we must take out and destroy every living thing around us. That is how Israel frames it. And the reality of this is, is that a lot of this situation in the Middle East for various reasons has been built by us and by Israel. And as we talked about on one of the most recent episode, Sherry, to where when Benjamin Netanyahu was in his deposition for his crimes, for his various crimes and corruption in Israel where he was in front of investigators, they said, look, you're funding Hamas like 37 million a month.
Starting point is 00:12:19 What the hell, dude? We had a little argument about it. Yeah. And he's like, he's like, yeah, I am funding Hamas. So $37 million or however he talks. But so he had to admit it, right? But the reality of all this shit is is that, guys, we're about to get in another long-scale, long-term drawn-out Middle East War where there's likely going to be hundreds, if not thousands of more if U.S. service members die because of this. Well, and I'm not going to totally take out the Lego videos that are going around from Iran.
Starting point is 00:12:50 And, you know, you said it was just people that were outside the government making these videos. No, no, no, no, no. Some of them are from the government. Yeah. Well, I'm saying these that are from the government that they have these videos going out and showing kind of precursors. I'm still not taking it off the table that they killed Lindsey Graham. I'm just not taking it off the table. Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Because there's a whole video that they created about him. Yeah, maybe. It's interesting. I mean, the whole thing is very interesting. And, but I want to get back to before we get into kind of what's going on and all this stuff in the Middle East and kind of where we stand and how close we are actually to a full wide-scale war where we have troops on the ground and Iran potentially clashes with us on the ground. That's very possible and it's a very realistic scenario.
Starting point is 00:13:36 But I want to go back briefly because it's something you said in the beginning of the show, Sherry. And we could do an entire episode on the voter fraud China thing, but instead of just doing an entire episode, I'd rather just talk about it now briefly before we get into this because we did say that, hey, China is obviously backing Iran. we knew that was going to happen because China backed Russia. When we started back in Ukraine, of course they're going to back Russia. Well, it's just, it's just anybody that, because they know the U.S. The United States of America is the world superpower in a lot of ways.
Starting point is 00:14:07 And China would probably be the second world superpower, if not in some ways, the superpower, depending on how you look at things. And so they know that any opportunity they have to hurt the United States, they're going to take. and in the case of Russia and Ukraine, well, it seems like that we heavily, I guess you can say encourage that situation to happen when Biden and Harris was in. I mean, we literally was on camera in mainstream media saying how we're going to make them a part of NATO, even though Russia kept saying if you make them a part of NATO, then that's going to be our red line. And then Russia would be like, well, here's another red line. If you keep sending weapons to Ukraine
Starting point is 00:14:44 or if you don't take the bio-weapons labs out of Ukraine, then that's also a red line. What do we do well we continue to do the exact same shit that russia did not want to happen on their border which is why the same thing if the same thing happened russia was doing the exact same thing in mexico we would be doing the same thing we would invade mexico mexico to protect our national interest and it's interesting to me because you know over the years that we've done this show we started this podcast and i was someone that just thought everything that i had ever kind of thought as far as the government and patriotism and all this stuff was like, I was right. And whereas I love my country, we also have to understand who's in the right and who's
Starting point is 00:15:28 in the wrong. No matter where you live, no matter what your nationality is, you have to look at things through a clear lens. You cannot look at things through a political, shaded lens of the right or left. You can't look at it because you're Christian and they're Muslim or they're Jew. We cannot look at stuff like that. And the problem with society, I believe today is that we all get on social media and we still have our tribes. We have this one side that hates this side.
Starting point is 00:15:54 We have the other side that hates this. And it's actually even gotten worse. I remember when all we had to really worry about was hating Democrats or Republicans hating or vice versa. Democrats hating Republicans. And now it's like you have so many groups just inside of the Republican Party that hate each other now. Well, and I think they're the same way on the Democrat side. I mean, you've got these people that are. total socialist communist communist group now, the far left.
Starting point is 00:16:18 And then you got the conservative left that are fighting against them. So it's on both sides of the party. And I think all parties are corrupt to some extent. And you're like, where am I supposed to stand in this? And who am I supposed to stand for? Because I don't trust either side right now. Yeah, or anybody. But I think, too, Chad, to your point, you know, everybody is name calling or saying,
Starting point is 00:16:40 I should hate this person or I should hate that person or I should hate that religion. but I do hear you going against Israel and Jewish people. No, not Jewish people, Israel, the government, the government. So how do you? Well, I think you were just calling the kettle black a little bit. No, I don't hate Jewish people, Sherry. Like, when if I ever ever said on this podcast, I hate Jewish people? If what you're telling me, though, with this whole argument, I don't even know why you just brought that up again because it seems like you want to argue this.
Starting point is 00:17:06 I just thought like you're calling the kettle black a little bit. So what you're basically saying is that because by the way, I've never once said I hate Jewish people. or any of that shit. Regardless, what the Israel government does, if you think that is how Jewish people feel, and that's what they want is mass civilian casualties and deaths, then, yeah, I would not like Jewish people. If that is what you are portraying them to be.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Like the Jewish Bible either, like. Well, that's the Old Testament, by the way. You don't like the Old Testament. I mean, that's part of my religion now. You've made that clear, though. No, it's not that I don't like the Old Testament. It's just the fact that the New Testament, is what my religion was founded on,
Starting point is 00:17:46 which is Jesus Christ. That's the only way to heaven. And I'm not trying to make an argument. Yeah, you are. Yeah, you are. You're kind of making... That's exactly what you're going. You were just kind of calling the kettle black a little bit.
Starting point is 00:17:55 That's all. That's all I'm saying. No, I wasn't calling the kettle of black. I'm simply saying that, number one, I don't hate anybody based on how they were born, what color they were or what religion they practice, right? If you're a good person and you practice Judaism or Muslim or Christianity or whatever it is,
Starting point is 00:18:13 and you're a good moral person, then I'm going to, I'm going to be okay with you. The problem is that, you know, that's like, and that's what's so funny is, is when people that are Jewish tell me,
Starting point is 00:18:24 oh, well, you must hate Jewish people. What? Because I criticize Israel for killing civilians. Well, do I hate Christians because I live in the United States
Starting point is 00:18:31 or America and I criticize the United States government 99% of the time versus any time I talk about Israel? That's the reality. But because it's Jewish people, then all of a sudden, you're not allowed to criticize their government.
Starting point is 00:18:43 that kills innocent people, but you are allowed to criticize your own government that you live in that country, but not another foreign nation because they're Jewish. Okay. Well, I just heard you on this podcast criticize Syria because they are killing Christians. When have you criticized other places besides Jews that they're killing Muslims? Have you criticized any other place that kills Jews? What do you mean? I mean, of course, I don't like anybody that kills innocent people, period, whether, no matter
Starting point is 00:19:13 who it is. I guess maybe it's because you say, well, innocent Christians are being killed in Syria. That was what you just said today on tonight's podcast. Yeah, but also there's innocent Muslims that die every single day. Yeah, there's innocent everybody that dies every day. And I always say something about it always. Okay. But, but Sherry, the reality of this is that the country that is killing the mass casualties or mass civilians is Israel right now. That's why we talk about it. I mean, If it was another scenario, like for example, when the Russia-Ukraine shit happened, what were we talking about? Like every five or six episodes, it was Russia-Ukraine because you know why? Because I don't want Russians or Ukrainians to die either.
Starting point is 00:19:54 And I don't even know what religion they are. I don't really give a shit. It has to do with- I think they're all-Christian. But if they were Jewish, then all of a sudden I would be anti-Semite if I was talking about one side or the other in Russia or Ukraine. And that's just not the reality because that's ridiculous. Okay. I guess what I'm saying is I was just calling.
Starting point is 00:20:10 a little bit of your bias because of your Christian religion, and that's fine. I was just calling it out. I'm not trying to make a debate or an argument about it. In Ukraine and Russia, I think they are all predominantly Christian. I think there are still Jews there, and there are Muslim popularity there as well. But when you remember, when we started first reporting about the Russian Ukraine war, we were on Ukraine side in the beginning until we found out all the stuff going on that. the United States was backing. And then we kind of changed our tune and said, no, we don't need to be on Ukraine's side. We're more on Russia's side. The point is, is that it's not like I have an admiration or long lost love or lust for fucking Iran. Like, the reality of it is, is that going, looking back, I mean, however the war started, we've lost a shit ton of troops to people in Afghanistan and Iraq and in the Middle East. now the question is like why exactly did we get into all these wars and who was really responsible
Starting point is 00:21:14 we don't 100% fully know but i do know that like the 9-11 entire story we were given is a lot of bullshit i know that like you can look at the architects and engineers for 9-11 truth where there's over 1,800 architects and engineers some of the top engineers and architects in the world that say that those two planes did not take down the world trade centers uh i i know there's a lot of things that go into that. And the reality of this is, is that beyond 9-11, we got to go back briefly to the first goal for, which is, you know, what was 92 or 93 when George Bush Sr. was in office, which keep in mind, George Bush used to be over the CIA. Right. He actually was the one that created, that made sure that CIA was actually the one that was
Starting point is 00:21:59 doing the presidential daily briefing. Used to it, used to be the president's basically aid or I guess his senior advisor would do the presidential daily briefing. And then it wasn't until after George Bush Sr. came in that he's the one that created the CIA is the one that gave the presidential daily briefing with everything he needed to know for his situational awareness on a daily basis. But my point to this is the first goal for, well, we know that we went in this shit because of oil. We wanted oil.
Starting point is 00:22:29 We went there. That's pretty self-explanatory. After 9-11, we went in there because of 9-11. But then we also went into Iraq, which they lied to us about weapons of mass destruction. They didn't have weapons of mass destruction. We know that without a doubt we never found weapons of mass destruction. And the amount of service members that we have lost are in the thousands because of Afghanistan in Iraq. And if you look at just the storyline of 9-11 where all of these experts say there's no way two airplanes took down two towers, it's just not possible.
Starting point is 00:23:01 And then you also have building seven, which was demolished for. whatever reason, which was a federal government building, by the way. It looked like it was controlled explosives that took that building down. And then you hear all these people saying all this shit, which then you think about, well, basically our official narrative of everything of what has happened in the Middle East since then, all of our bases in the Middle East, every conflict we've had ever since then has come from 9-11. So I think it is very important what happened and who did it in 9-11. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:23:34 who was behind it, who was the one that was pulling the strings. I think it's extremely important because not only, not only did it cost three or four thousand lives in the 9-11, but it also cost thousands of lives in the wars. And it also created an entire region such as the Middle East to hate America and to hate Americans in general in large part. Because when your country gets invaded by the U.S. military, that's not something that people are just going to welcome you with open arms. I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:24:03 way it goes. And so the whole idea that like I've ever thought that those countries, like there's certain countries that are better than Israel. No, I'm just telling you right now that Israel got us into this shit. They have killed mass amounts of civilians. It is horrific. I think that if, if any of these leaders in Israel believe in an actual God, if they think that this is, they're doing this for God or whatever, this is why I think there's their disconnect between Jesus Christ and not Jesus Christ because if you're someone but then but then you look at the United States look at the United States look how many civilians we've killed in wars disconnect there too and we're a Christian nation supposedly but it's all show it's all freaking show and you know even the leaders of
Starting point is 00:24:48 Israel the problem is is like I played this rap song to Sherry even though she didn't listen to it earlier but it's a rap song from a Jewish rapper and he literally said like you mofos at the top of Israel and our government are hurting Jewish people by representing Jewish people in this way. You guys are making people hate Zionists. You making people hate Jews because of how evil you motherfuckers are. That's exactly what is rap songs about. And that is the reality. It is a reality. Any times there is a leadership that is evil, which you have many of those leaderships or those groups throughout the Middle East, whether it's Muslim or whoever, it makes like especially the West feel like all Muslims are evil.
Starting point is 00:25:30 And there's a lot of people now feel in the same similar way, I guess, in some ways to the Israel situation. Although I don't think all Jews are evil. I think they're literally most Jews are like some of the most harmless people. You don't see Jews as like ISIS terrorist. You know what I mean? I don't know. That's hard to even go there. But what my point to this is, and we've not even got into the actual reason we're on this podcast.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Yeah, because I got a sidetracked. And I want to agree with you. going to. No, I want to agree with you to several points. I think there are a lot of finger pointing going towards Israel as far as like 9-11, things that are happening. Oh, I didn't say that, but you did. No, I agree with you. And I think, and even the Epstein files, I think they're behind the Epstein files. I think they're behind a lot of corrupt shit. I guess my point was I felt like I'm not even going to go into that point again because it's just going to start an argument. I'm just saying there are Jewish people out there that are good people. Of course.
Starting point is 00:26:28 And I want to make sure we know that. Of course. Like I've known Jewish people my whole life. I mean, you know, when you grow up in America, you're going to be around Jewish people all the time. I never once thought like, oh, my God, they're Jewish people. No. Like, and I never thought about anybody. That's the reality of it.
Starting point is 00:26:44 And it's just the mainstream media that makes you think all this shit. All I'm saying is is that, you know, and I also want to make something clear before we move on from this because we do actually have to talk about what we're going to talk about. Yeah. You know, we have to remember, too, there are definitely certain Jews that are all 100% on board. And it's Jewish people, not Jews. Well, it's Jews because it says that in the Bible. So don't try to say that's anti-Semite.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Okay. But in, in, there are definitely Jews right now throughout the world that are 100% on board completely with what Israel's doing to the region, whether it's Palestine or Lebanon or wherever. whether they know there are mass civilian casualties, they are still fully on board with what Israel is doing. But we also have to remember that there are a lot of Jews that also hate what Israel's doing. And they hate the representation of their government right now. And, you know, the mainstream media over here in the United States might, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:39 they may want to call them like leftist Jews or something. And that's how they just basically, you know, Jews are so important until you don't agree what the government's doing in this particular situation. Then all of a sudden you're not a Jew and you're not important. and leading up to and after October 7th, which was the attack on Israel by Hamas, and then leading after that, there were mass protest in the streets by Jews. These were Jews that were protesting their government. Number one, they were protesting in the response of how many civilian casualties were
Starting point is 00:28:12 basically handed out by Israel on behalf of the Israeli government. They also hated the fact that how it was making Israel look and it was also making the Jews look and they mass protested. But they also protested to get Benjamin Netanyahu in prison. They wanted this guy in prison. You know, the same way that a lot of our politicians have been corrupt pieces of shit that should actually be in prison. And we've had protests and we've had people that are protesting this and that.
Starting point is 00:28:39 But there were people in the streets that protested Benjamin Netanyahu because of his corruption, because of he's a war criminal. That is just the way it goes. And so what I'm saying is, Sherry, is there are people. in Israel, and I would probably say half, maybe 50, but actually if you look at the polls, Benjamin Netanyahu's approval rating was like 18 percent, the last I looked in Israel. So what I'm trying to tell you is that there's probably more Jews in Israel that agree with my sentiment on Israel government than there are Jews that do not agree with my sentiment on Israel government.
Starting point is 00:29:12 And I think that's so funny when Americans try to tell me that I'm anti-Semi only because I'm pointing now the obvious, which is like, hey, no country that has this amount of power should kill mass amounts of civilians. I think that's a pretty fair ask of a government, just like we expect the United States government not to do that. And although we have done it before, but when we have done it before, there were people brought into the, to JAG. They are held up on charges.
Starting point is 00:29:42 In some cases, there's been a lot of people that have not been depending on the situation and the war or whatever operation it was. But that's all I want to say about it. Okay, well, I want to ask you one quick question before we go on. You know how black people can call each other the N-word, but white people can't call them the N-word, right? Because that's kind of their talk or whatever, but we're not allowed to say that.
Starting point is 00:30:04 If Jewish people say they don't like being called Jew and it's racist to them, why do you continue to say Jew instead of Jewish people? Because it's in the Bible. Okay, well, Negro and all those words were... Oh, that was in the Bible too? Not in the Bible, but it was way back during civil rights movements. You're not understanding me. Like, every word in the Bible, I mean, most of the way the Bible referred to Jewish people were Jews.
Starting point is 00:30:30 I know, but if Jewish people don't like being called Jew, why do you continue to call them Jew? That's ridiculous, Sherry. Come on. That is an absolute ridiculous sentiment. They like to be called Jewish people. You sound like a leftist. No, it's like I would never say. the N word.
Starting point is 00:30:46 And, you know, if it offends somebody to call them a Jew, then I say Jewish people. Like, it's an easy transition. But it also offends them when you say Crisis King. They say that's anti-Semitic. All right. All right. So let's go ahead and move on. We are now going to play a clip from Fox News where the U.S. is reportedly Russian more warplanes
Starting point is 00:31:04 into the region. And this comes after also 50,000 plus troops are either going to be stationed in the Middle East or also potentially in Israel or other U.S. bases. And the thing that I worry about with that, obviously, the more troops we send, the more casualties we may have, because Iran is not going to stop this. Trump just said yesterday, because of the two deaths from the missile strikes on U.S. bases in Jordan, that he is about to rain down hell on Iran. He's also told Israel to hold off for the time being, let them, I guess, do their shock and all response to those American casualties. And then he will reevalue.
Starting point is 00:31:44 wait and see where they're at then. And the problem with this whole scenario and situation is, is that we have to go back for a minute to before this U.S. ship, but before the ship was actually sunk by Iran, the United States was hitting Iran pretty hard. This was after the MOU was completely gone. We thought that we were about to get a peace deal, and then it was completely wiped off the table. And then so the United States started hitting what they called strategic targets in Iran.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Iran. And then so Iran was like, oh, so you're going to keep hitting us. Fine. Well, then we're going to sink the damn ship that you're trying to say is allowed to go through because the United States is blockading all Iranian ships to try to hurt them economically. And so Iran sunk their ship. And then in retaliation that, the United States hit Iran very hard in multiple places. And then Iran responded by hitting U.S. bases in Jordan, which ended up killing two service members. So now the United States is saying, well, we're going to send more planes, more people, more everything, and we're going to rain down hell on Iran. And so what do you think the response is going to be from Iran once we do this?
Starting point is 00:32:51 It's going to be worse. It's going to be more attacks, and this thing is going to continue to spiral into an even bigger conflict. But I do want to just quickly play this Fox News piece about the U.S. Russian more warplains to the region. Listen. The United States striking Iran hard last night following the deaths of two American service members. in Jordan. Madeline Rivera is live in Washington with the details. Good morning, Maddie.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Hi, good morning, guys. Sentcom says the latest round of strikes yesterday weren't only meant to degrade Iran's ability to hit ships in the strait of her moves. They also targeted IRGC forces that they say launch attacks against U.S. service members in Jordan on Friday. We have yet to learn of the identities of the two fallen service members. The U.S. says they were killed as they and partner forces defended themselves from Iranian ballistic missile. and drone attacks. One service member is currently missing in action. Four American service members were evacuated to Jordanian hospitals. They have since been released. War Secretary Pete Hexeth later reacting to the incident saying, Godspeed heroes, their sacrifice only stiffens our resolve.
Starting point is 00:33:59 And that is the question today, guys. All eyes are on the region to see how this tit for tat will further escalate. The president tells News Nation, it's a very sad thing. We hate to see it happen. It's in service to our country. At the same time, the president appears undeterred, telling the New York Post they did it because they don't want to see Iran have a nuclear weapon, and it just shows you how bad the Iranians are. The Wall Street Journal reports the U.S. is now rushing more warplanes to the region as Iran's supreme leader accuses the U.S. of violating the memo of understanding. The breakdown of the MOU centered on control over the state of Hormuz, Iran tried to dictate shipping traffic. The U.S. says it's since redirected
Starting point is 00:34:38 five commercial vessels and disabled one as a result of its naval blockade. Charlie, Lisa, and Griff. All right. And I want to point out something. Number one, you know, if you just look at everything that happened after the MOU, what Fox News is reporting, which is basically Republican News Network or Israel News Network, because that's all they talk about is either Israel or whatever. The reality is that, yes, the United States struck strategic targets in Iran before
Starting point is 00:35:06 Iran ever hit the ship that was going through the Strait of Hormuz. And you also have to understand the Strait of Hormuz because of the MOU, memorandum of understanding, said that the Strait of Hormuz would be open and that all ships should flow through without problem, without any issues. Then the United States started blocking the straight again from any Iranian ships coming out and they were trying to let the United States ships or whatever was going to be beneficial to the United States out of the strait. and that is when Iran hit the ship and sunk it.
Starting point is 00:35:37 And then since the United States then hit Iran hard like we just explained and then Iran struck back. But the problem with all this is that I think what most people don't understand and what I've been pissed off about this entire situation is that you have people like Pete Heggseth and Graham Allen on X and all of these people that are conservative right wing influencers that say these same people were the ones like, yeah, we must hit Iran hard. we must do whatever we can to take out Iran's nuclear capabilities. And that's all they said because they're all getting paid. They're all paid influencers by the Republican Party or whoever else pays them. Probably also Israel. We know that Israel's paying $7,000 plus to multiple creators and influencers. But this is what they're supposed to say.
Starting point is 00:36:20 This is what they're out on social media saying to you. And then in the same breath after these two soldiers die, the same people come out and say, oh my gosh, this is awful. We pray for our soldiers. and all this shit. And it's like, you're literally part of the propaganda campaign that got the soldiers killed because there's nobody. I mean, there's some people.
Starting point is 00:36:42 There's some people that don't really understand what's going on in this situation that are all for this war because you believe the bullshit about Iran and nuclear weapons. So were the strategic hits supposedly about nuclear weapons? Like, what were these strategic hits and why did they do them after they, you know, Trump tried so hard to get all this signed and. sealed and delivered, why would we do that? I just don't get that. I think part of the problem is I don't think that we fully understand what is actually happening.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Is Israel still hitting Iran? And then we're saying, hey, we got to hit them too. We don't know because it sounds like mainstream media has been a lot more quiet about what actually is happening. Like, who's actually? Is the United States hitting Iran or is Israel? Because we've known since this whole peace agreement has been in the works for like, what, three or four or five months now that every single time we are close to a peace agreement, Israel hits Iran.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Yeah, but they take out someone that is a leading negotiator for Iran. But this time it sounds like it was the United States that when it gets the agreement that Trump was trying so hard to get signed. Well, that's what it sounds like, but we don't 100% know. Like, was it Israel that hit Iran and then we had to go in again and help Israel? We don't know because now, like I said, mainstream media is being. a lot more closed lip about it. They don't want to say a lot about it because we saw what happened when we actually heard
Starting point is 00:38:07 details about what was going on and how it was happening because then everybody was like, what in the hell are we in this war for? And I want people to understand, like I was saying, the people actually understand what's going on or even halfway understand what's going on. They don't want us in this war. This is a very unpopular war. This may be one of the most unpopular wars ever because people just do not believe that we should be in a war with Iran.
Starting point is 00:38:29 and especially after a president that ran on no new wars and all the shit that he used to say about, we can stop all these wars on day one. I'll stop the Russia-Ukraine conflict. And we'll make sure that we're never in no new wars. And you remember all the shit that Trump on the campaign trail and in the debates against Jeb But, or was it Jeb Bush? I think it was Jebush or whoever talking shit about his brother, George W., for how he got us in the wars in Iraq and in particular Iraq. He talked a lot about that. And he talked about how it was bullshit.
Starting point is 00:38:57 there was no weapons of my obstruction. You got us into this. You got troops killed. This is why everybody voted for Trump. We're like, hell yeah, Trump is America first. We love Trump because he's not going to get us in a wars. He's not going to get our service members killed. And we're not going to have to bear the burden of the cost of another Middle East conflict.
Starting point is 00:39:15 And then so here we are again in a war in the Middle East against arguably the biggest nation and the biggest military power outside of Israel in the entire Middle East. Well, it's interesting because I was talking to my mom today and, you know, she lives in Chicago, Illinois. And that's a predominantly Democrat state. And she's saying, and this is, you know, she gets this from her news. She's saying the only reason Trump did all this was to make sure the Epstein files didn't come out. That's what their belief is, is that he started this war to keep the Epstein files from coming out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Do you agree, disagree? Like, what do you think about that? Well, it's interesting because we've actually mentioned your mom's news on the podcast before in previous episodes to where it's like it's so weird what they hear versus what we hear. Yeah, it's so different. But I also think your mom listens to nightly news. So like NBC nightly news or whatever. Yeah, my mom does too. Yeah, that's why they basically kind of know the same thing.
Starting point is 00:40:15 And although she thinks that that's why he started this war, when you mentioned Israel about this scenario, she had no idea what you were talking about. No, she thinks that Israel is not up to any good either. But I'm saying she didn't have any clue what you were talking about as far as when you doubled down a little bit and said, okay, well, you're saying that this war was started because of the Epstein files. But she logically wasn't thinking like, why would Iran war be started because of Epstein files? Because without a missing puzzle piece to that, it makes zero sense. What does Iran have all of the intel on? No, obviously not. No, he's just trying to distract, you know, the people and get us into an war.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Okay, so maybe that's what she was saying. I don't know. But either way, a lot of people believe. And even ex-Missad agents, we played clips of ex-Missade agents on this podcast before, where they say that like if Trump doesn't, if Trump, you remember, okay, so it was like eight episodes ago. You remember when he played the Mossad agent where he said that if Trump actually signs this agreement, this MOU, and it goes through, that Israel will release everything in
Starting point is 00:41:23 the Epstein files because they have all the files. They have everything on Trump or anybody that Trump's associated with and they will release them. We played the clip on this podcast. And the interesting thing about that is, is that when this MOU was going through and the Republicans started to really feel good about Trump somewhat again, especially the Republicans that were kind of abandoning shit, they were like screw maga. We're done with this shit. We're done because of the war.
Starting point is 00:41:49 And then Trump started to come around. He said, hey, we're going to get this peace agreement. He started actually telling a little bit of truth for one. once where he was saying that, hey, you know, Israel can't handle Lebanon. They're hitting them too hard. That's why I'm doing in Syria. Yeah, all this ship. And then all of a sudden out of nowhere, we start attacking Iran again.
Starting point is 00:42:08 We start attacking Iran again. And then now we're back into the bullshit again. I would assume that someone sabotaged a deal. You're not going to hear this on mainstream media, but they've been sabotaging it the whole time. And so I think with as hardcore as this administration, number one, wanted this deal to actually go through. And by the way, the main reason why the Trump administration wants this deal to go through is because we have midterms coming up in 2028. I mean, sorry, in this year,
Starting point is 00:42:34 not 2028. I was thinking about the election. We have midterms coming up this November. In 2028, which is two and a half something years away, two and a half years away, we have a presidential election, which right now, I guess our leading guy on the Republican Party is J.D. Vance, which is why you probably just likely saw him on the Ger Rogan show. But a war. in the Middle East for Republicans is a very bad thing. I mean, for the midterms and for 2028. And I think that's why Trump got the memo at least a month ago when he started actually telling a little bit of truth about Israel and he started coming out about it and he started
Starting point is 00:43:13 saying, no, we're going to make this memorandum work. We have to make this work. We don't need to be in this war. And then literally two or three weeks later, it's like Trump never said anything to that shit. He's back on mainstream media saying how great. great Israel is and how amazing of a partner they are and all this shit. And then he starts attacking Iran again. So obviously there's some very important puzzle piece there that that
Starting point is 00:43:34 made it very clear. Listen here, mofos, you're going to continue to attack Iran. This is not stopping. This memorandum of understanding is a happening. And then of course you have Lindsey Graham died, which is interesting. He was like the biggest war hawk all for, you know, the war in Iran. And he was literally the mouthpiece between Israel and the United States. And then he dies mysteriously, even though they want you to believe that it was some, you know, basically coroner artery explosion. But yet FBI is actually still at his house. They were at his house yesterday.
Starting point is 00:44:10 They've been in his house for like almost a week and a half, however long it's been. They've been in his house. And not just FBI, you had the, who else was it? I can't remember the other federal agency. Department of Homeland Security was there. I know FBI was there and some other agents that they could not identify. So would that lead you to believe that he at least made it back on United States soil before he died? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:34 I have no idea. But, yeah, I mean, if you have that many federal agents, because in our podcast, we talked about Lindsey Graham, whereas, like, you know, Russia did hit the drone factory and his hotel that he was at, like, same day. Right. And it was very strange at the very least, if you look at, like I said, the time frame of as travel. It would be damn near impossible to get back to the United States and then die in your house the same day. Basically, you were in the, obviously, there's a time difference, but we went over all that math in the podcast. But I guess what I'm saying is that obviously
Starting point is 00:45:07 someone interfered with Trump's communication line and gave him a very stern warning or message or something and said, you fucking sign this and let this go through because I'm telling you, men, people were losing their shit on social media when this MOU was about to be signed. And who were the, who were the people that were losing their shit? Well, you got Laura Lumer. You have all the conservative influencers. Yeah. All of the ones that are stuck up, well, you would think are stuck up Trump's ass.
Starting point is 00:45:38 You think they're stuck up Trump's ass. But here's a problem. Those same people that betray to be like the most loyal Trump supporters during this time of the leading up to the signing, which it was signed by the MOU was signed, which was the peace agreement, like literally the day or two or three, that three or four days following that, those same people that you think are the most staunch Trump supporters were talking shit about Trump, hardcore. I mean, they were saying, oh, my God, I cannot believe that he is this dumb. He has fallen for the bullshit.
Starting point is 00:46:12 You know, they were saying all these things. And then if you go back to their same profiles today, they've deleted all those messages. Because now the war is back on. and now they're all about Trump again, right? It's where the money goes. And whoever's paying you, well, you're going to say what the hell they want you to say. And if Trump's not doing something in their agenda, then you're going to have to come out and say and talk shit and pressure Trump. That's what you do.
Starting point is 00:46:36 They use social media on big accounts to create this mass almost formation, this mass formation psychosis to where if you are paying the top 50 conservative influencers. and those 50 have in the tune of 50 million followers together. I don't think you guys understand like how that can shift mindsets from the base of the people that are conservatives and MAGA. It shifts it drastically. I agree. And so so if Trump's not doing something in line, then you're going to pay these people and say, hey, here's your message.
Starting point is 00:47:13 And all of you are saying the same shit. We're putting pressure on him. And if he doesn't do this, he's a worse. piece of shit president ever. That's why if you look at Lindsey Graham and all these never Trumpers and all of a sudden they became the most devout, loyal Trump supporters ever.
Starting point is 00:47:28 And they used to be the ones that said never, I would I vote for Trump than Lindsay Graham and all of them. Ted Cruz. And it is so funny when you watch them in meetings when Trump is rambling and going on, especially Mark Rubio. He can mark you,
Starting point is 00:47:44 Markio Rubio, whatever. The way he looks down when Trump is rambling. He's like, oh my God, shut up. You can see it in his face. No, he does. I mean, it's crazy. But I just want you guys to understand, like, how this shit goes.
Starting point is 00:48:02 I mean, if you don't think, okay, so I think, I think a problem that some people are having, especially with the way we talk about things or I talk about things in specific, is that they're having a hard time grasping, I guess. that some of the people that they followed that were influencers, that they trusted beyond anyone else that they listened to because we all just went through COVID. You know, we, we knew we couldn't trust our mainstream media. We knew we couldn't trust our government. And so what did a lot of you do?
Starting point is 00:48:34 You went to influencers. You went to influencers that had a voice and had an opinion and in a lot of ways proved that the government and mainstream media were lying to you. Okay. Well, unfortunately, there are bad actors. that went to a lot of these big influencers, the same people that you put in all your trust to after COVID. It was like those people's voices were like a calming voice to you during COVID because
Starting point is 00:48:58 you could hear these people out. You heard and understood what they were saying and you trusted them because they were going against the mainstream narrative and the government and they were proven right. Right. And so now a lot of those people are telling you that this war is amazing and it's great and you must be a patriot. And if you're not, if you don't go along with this, you're not a patriot. you're anti-Semite and you're all these things.
Starting point is 00:49:19 A lot of these same people are telling you that now. Unfortunately, though, a lot of these same people are now paid. They are now paid and bought out. And yet, why would people pay and buy these particular people out? It's because it's the perfect tool. You have a whole group of people that amassed large followings throughout COVID and the anti-government and anti-media trust environment. And now you have an opportunity to convey propaganda towards a mass amount of people.
Starting point is 00:49:47 in the United States for America that all these people trust with their lives. I mean, look at Dan Bongina, for example. And there's still people that literally go on Dan Bongina's post right now and talk like he's God, that they love him. I mean, I thank God there's a lot of people that do not trust him at all anymore because I don't think anybody should.
Starting point is 00:50:06 He's a sellout. He's a propaganda artist and he's a liar. But I just want you guys to understand, like, how all this shit works. And I 100% know a lot of these influencers are paid. I know they're influenced. I know they are bought out. And I think it was whoever was responsible for this were very smart. They knew how to do psychological manipulation to the ump degree without you kind of ever
Starting point is 00:50:33 known about it, even though we kind of know some about it. We know that there are certain groups of people in countries that are funding influencers. But it's just like the interesting thing is like who they funded is the most interesting thing. Well, isn't it interesting that it's all like a social media war now more than anything? Well, because the landscape has changed, right? The landscape has completely changed, you know, four or five, six years ago, I would say four or five, six years ago. I guess pre-COVID, mainstream media was still heavily trusted, even though a lot of people still didn't believe a lot of mainstream media, but it's not even close to the scale that people don't believe mainstream media now. After COVID, nobody believes them.
Starting point is 00:51:12 And then so. but before that, you know, you had countries, you had groups, you had people that could influence media and they could tell the mass population of the United States or America a certain thing that people would believe and it would shift their thought process. We saw this during the Democrats, even though like the Democrats hating Trump. And I still don't 100% fully know who was really responsible behind the Democrats campaign against Trump. I mean, you could say it's just Democrats.
Starting point is 00:51:41 And look, there's a there's really almost. damn near nothing that Democrats ever put forward that is good. But I'm just saying like who was behind the campaigns behind the Democrats. That's what you got to find out. Same reason, same things you want to find out about who's behind the campaigns of the Republicans, whether it's pro war or pro this or anti-epstein files are being released or whatever. There's always someone behind these things. But someone could be on both sides.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. They're going to, they're going to play both sides. Yeah, absolutely. And I actually believe that's the case. I don't believe there's one side on the Democrat side and one side on Republicans. I think there is one massive influence campaign and group that is behind both sides. And their money talks, they're going to put the money where the influence is, which is the president. And whoever is the opposite of that is going to be the enemy. And I think that we're seeing that now more than ever. And I think that when we start understanding like what the hell happened. I mean, yes, politics are dirty. They're correct. and we've always had corrupt politicians. But if you just look back at the past 10 years, we have never seen dirty politics like we've seen over the past 10 years.
Starting point is 00:52:52 And I would say especially the past eight years. Yeah, but we've never seen it. When Biden was in administration, for example, and like Black Lives Matter was out, who did we always talk about then? Always. Who? George Soros. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:06 George Soros. Do we ever even bring his name up anymore? No, but we don't. Yeah. Isn't that kind of odd? You shouldn't go there because you already know. Well, I know he's Jewish too or whatever, but that was the name that everyone was talking about. No one even talks about him anymore.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Why? Well, is because. Is he not influencing our politics anymore? Of course he is. I mean, he still is. And his son will continue to influence politics. His son is also, you know, he's going to be the next in line. And it's not even about the Jewish thing or not Jewish thing.
Starting point is 00:53:36 It's just there's a group of people that are tied to an elite group of people that we've talked about for the eight or nine years we've done this show that are elites. They control a lot of the world and the decisions that politicians around the world make based on their own, I guess, agendas. And you can decipher that on however you want to, you know, the people that say that Jews control the world. I mean, are there a large portion of Jews that do that have influence? Absolutely. But are there others that also control the world and are at least that are not Jewish? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:54:09 And so it's not necessarily just one particular group of people. But what I will say is that whoever is playing our government and our politics has full control. And you guys can do the research right now of who mostly has a lot of fundamental, I guess, financial influence and whatever in our politics. And at the time being, I think that is what is controlling a lot of the decisions that our government is making. You know, I think I think we couldn't have saw it any more clear with Thomas Massey. You know, Thomas Massey was a 30-year seat. He was never, there was no one ever even came close to beating him. Yeah, we still don't even, I don't even know the guy's name that beat him because he was not.
Starting point is 00:54:55 Ed something, Ed Galler. Nobody even knew who he was. Ed Gallerine. And you want me to tell you the interesting thing, when Thomas Massey came out against this war, came out, and started asking questions about... Well, I think the Epstein files is what really got it going. Well, that was the first thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Because of how the government was acting. But also when Thomas Massey started to criticize Israel about killing thousands of civilians and all this stuff. And then it was funny how Trump came out hardcore against Thomas Massey. Now, Thomas Massey was always America first. He wanted American, I guess, values placed before anything else. And you may also tell you who Charlie Kirk's favorite. politician was Thomas Massey. He said it consistently.
Starting point is 00:55:40 He said if we could run a country based on a person's belief and the way he the way he carries himself in the government, what his values are, what he stands for, Thomas Massey is the epitome of a politician that we want in the White House. Yeah. And this was this was Charlie Kirk that said this. I know, but there's a lot of people that hated Charlie Kirk as well. Of course. That was, they were called leftist.
Starting point is 00:56:05 yes those were those were leftists those were democrats the the republicans never hated charlie kirk charlie kirk spoke truth about what his beliefs were i think that's why he got so big was because you know especially with like the trans thing and and all that he said exactly how it was he wasn't mean about it but he was just telling you the truth like well this is a reality well you can say that you are this but the reality is you're not actually this and you know he was just very blunt and um and he was very steadfast in what he believed and his belief systems. And but it's just, it's just interesting because I'd always wondered too, like what, like, how would it, how would Charlie Kirk's death affect the future of the nation?
Starting point is 00:56:46 And I don't think we really understand how it has because there's a lot of things that are happening now, uh, and that happened when Thomas Massey basically got primaried by Israel that to the tune of 28 million dollars spent again, I actually sorry, it was 35 million dollar spin against Thomas Massey. It was the most expensive election in congressional history against Thomas Massey. There's not even anything hardly close to that. And it was because of, number one, the Epstein thing, but he was absolutely against the Israel-Iran war or the United States, Israel, Iran War. And he criticized Israel.
Starting point is 00:57:20 And so what did they do? Well, they brought Ed Gowlerine in. He was a huge A-PAC-funded person that no one's ever heard of, and he was gone. same thing marjorie tether green one of trump's biggest supporters one of uh someone that campaigned for for throughout in not only 16 but also 2020 and also leading up to 2024 one of trump's biggest supporters she was the most fiery congresswoman on the floor when the democrats or anybody talk shit about she would damn near cuss you out or if she was in the seat she would yell shit she she reminds me Sherry if she was a congresswoman.
Starting point is 00:57:58 But yeah. And then all the sudden, because she started being like, wait, what? What the hell is going on now? And then all of a sudden Trump's like, nope, screw you. You're not MAGA anymore. Peace out. Yeah. And I agree with that.
Starting point is 00:58:09 I agree that. That's what he's done. And Trump also said that about anybody that questioned their handling of the Epstein files, the Israel War. He said, you're not MAGA. We're done with you. We don't need you. And so, like, that was one thing that really split the MAGA base when they
Starting point is 00:58:25 heard those words from Trump, they're like, oh, so you don't need it. So all the people that helped you get elected, all the podcasts, all the influencers. You're telling them to F off. Yeah, you're saying, fuck you. And that's what he did. And unfortunately, we still don't 100% know why. Well, in getting back to your point, I think, you know, these people that are the elites are funding our politicians, you think about the military, what is it complex?
Starting point is 00:58:50 You think about the AI. You think about technology. You think about Bill Gates, Zuckerberg, like all of these important people, but they're not even the people that are at the top. There are people above them that are more elite than them that are really reining the money on where they want things to go. Yeah. Well, and by the way, I think I've set this up like three times because we've talked about it three times. I've still not even said what I was thinking about the China thing, the China voting fraud. I don't even really necessarily 100% buy it.
Starting point is 00:59:25 I've done some research. No, but I've got AI to look through it. I actually got Grock because Grock's pretty straightforward and he's the most not, or I say he, it. It is the most, I guess, neutral as it possibly can be. And I say Grock, like what about Trump speech tonight and the files and everything you can see? What's bullshit? What isn't as far as China's election interference? and it says, well, there's a lot this bullshit
Starting point is 00:59:52 because he overplayed the shit out of this. Yes, there is some influence. China always wants to influence elections. So does many other countries, actually. There are many countries that have hackers and all this shit. Well, Russian collusion and all that stuff. Yeah, but it's always happened. But for whatever reason, Trump literally came on mainstream media to address the nation
Starting point is 01:00:13 about China hacking our elections. And that was the reason why our elections were stolen lies. That is not the, that's just not. not reality. And in all the files they have released, according to AI, there is zero evidence that China, anything China did during 2020 affected our elections whatsoever. Now, the funny thing about this whole thing is that it sounds like Trump is obfuscating for someone else that he's trying to protect.
Starting point is 01:00:41 I mean, I know this sounds crazy. But like in 2020, we remember the movie called 2000 Mules. And even though this guy is 100%, I, I don't agree with most of what this guy talks about now. And that's how crazy it is. What? Dinesh D'Souza. So he was the director of that film.
Starting point is 01:01:00 He's the one that created that. Oh, so you don't think that people were like wheels. No, no, no, that's not what I'm saying. I, I'm saying I believe that movie because I think they gave enough evidence. I'm saying everything that I hear him talk about now, I don't agree with most of anything. He's a propaganda artist. What does he talk about? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Oh, he's just every, like, okay. So before 2020 and the 2000 mules and all that shit, everything he said and everything we all thought and believed about Trump and the election and the stolen and the Democrats and everything was right on. I agreed with everything he said. And then since Trump has switched everything of who Trump is and like what his entire campaign was about and why everyone voted for him or a lot of people, Dinesh has 100% switched the exact same way. He's like completely on board with hating Iran and love for Israel. Wasn't he's supposed to be bipartisan? Weren't they bipartisan? No, the Nash wasn't.
Starting point is 01:01:54 He was a conservative mogul, I guess you can say. But the people he brought in. Other people were bipartisan. Yeah, the people he brought in was a group of people that had looked at election fraud for Democrats and Republicans throughout years. Yeah. So what I'm saying is I'm not saying that movie was incorrect. I'm saying leading up to Trump getting elected in 2024, once Trump turned, so did he. He did.
Starting point is 01:02:18 So did so many of these other people. And he was like the director. Yeah, he was the, he was the creator of this film. I mean, he was the one that got all this shit together and all that. But like something completely changed with him too. And it's just like, and that's why in a large part, like for me, in a lot of people, like a lot of people feels like their world was kind of flipped a little bit upside down after Trump got in. And we started to see how everything was going. It just, there's just not a lot that makes a lot of sense.
Starting point is 01:02:46 and it's interesting. There's a lot of, like for example, I don't, you know, whether they're innocent or guilty, don't know, but, you know, Andrew and Tristan Tate. Now, they have been charged multiple times in Romania and all these different places. They've held them for months. They have zero, well, so far, they have zero evidence, basically to. And take all their assets every time they get arrested. Yeah, every time they get arrested, they take all their cars, then they have to go buy back
Starting point is 01:03:13 their cars, all this shit. And the reason why I say this, and I'm not trying to interrupt you, but when I was watching the arrest in Miami the other day, as they're arresting him, I see this guy in like this gold jacket come up to Andrew and he's like getting his gold necklace. He's getting his earrings out. He's getting his rings. And hopefully that was on Andrew's buddies. I hope it was because I'm telling you, whatever he leaves on him, he's not getting back.
Starting point is 01:03:38 Yeah. And by the way, I don't know if Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate are guilty or innocent, right? these charges are brought about in the UK. And they had charges in Romania. They had charges in all these other places. All these other places have yet to prove any wrongdoing whatsoever. That's why they had to let them go. They've done everything.
Starting point is 01:03:57 They've tried to coerce people into coerce women. They went through their entire history to try to see if they could find anybody that be willing to say that they raped them or they trafficked them or any of this stuff. And then so the UK has been wanting these charges for a while. and no Biden or Harris never extradited Tate or anytime they were here
Starting point is 01:04:20 the UK consistently wanted extradition all this shit never did it but they were here though no they were here then I know but I don't think we I never mind I get what you're saying no what I'm saying is Biden Harris and I think even whoever but
Starting point is 01:04:35 guess what Trump's DOJ just freaking rated them picked them up now they're going in front of a a core it just there's so much shit that doesn't seem right it's in and and i say this is because i feel like and and guys i know this is about the iran uh israel war but i all of this matters because what we have to understand there's it feels like we got hoodwinked like it feels like we got a bait and switch to where the bait and switch is like hey uh here's everything i'm going to give you and here's here's exactly how opposite we're going to do it
Starting point is 01:05:11 right and and I you know we've always had that with politicians for a long time I do think like politicians run and say all this crazy shit and they say all these promises and then they don't do any of them but in my opinion I think this is one of the worst debate and switches we've ever had in politics I mean as far as like what they campaign for what you thought this was and what you thought we were going to get versus what we are getting yeah it's so hard for me to say you know I hate Trump I can't say it I don't got to say you hate Trump I can't because, you know, I work so hard to, like, let people know who he was and now he's doing these things. And then I see him coming back to reality and then he's not in reality.
Starting point is 01:05:51 Then he is in reality? Like, is he as bad as Biden? I don't know. But, you know, I got. And it's interesting. Like, when Biden was president, you know, you say, well, you got to support the president who's president. But I never supported Biden. So, you know, I'm sure it's hard for Democrats.
Starting point is 01:06:10 to support Trump, especially what he's doing now. Well, it's, it's interesting. I don't know what the answer is. The problem is with this Iran-Israel-U.S. conflict. So let me find this article, or not this article, but this thing I was looking at. Yeah, so the, this piece that came out of the Iranian regime and then a lot of, I think it was Al Jazeer and all these people that picked it up, says that Iran is actively planning and seriously considering a ground incursion into Kuwait to seize U.S. U.S. military bases, including Camp Bering, Camp Arafjan, Ali al-S. Salmine airbase, and then take 100 U.S. soldiers hostage.
Starting point is 01:06:50 This is what is saying, before quickly transferring them to Iran. If the U.S. continues its military campaign against Iran per prominent Iranian analyst, Mahdi, Kaladazi, the former Iranian foreign minister, Kaladinezzi, or whatever, however you say his name as the city, that should be evacuated, is not Tehran. Mononima, Abu Dhabi, and Kuwait. Born in a flood of American blood will flow in the region, with Kuwait being considered one of the Iran's principal options for the ground incursion. He says no political border will be safe and that Iran would shift to a full-scale offensive if U.S. strikes continue.
Starting point is 01:07:29 He also warns that joining the U.S. in a ground invasion is a tantamount to a declaration of war upon Iran, with the Iranian land force prepared to punish any state that participates. So this is what Iran is saying. So they're basically saying Iraq, any of our proxies in the region, they're saying if you join this ground invasion or anything against Iran, then we will consider you an enemy of Iran as well. Well, and when they talk about taking 100 hostages, I remember back in the 80s, I think it was the 80s when they took 100 hostages and they would take one by one and basically cut their head off on social media back then. Well, ISIS used to do that shit too. Which we didn't have social media, but they would record themselves doing that. And that is horrendous to watch.
Starting point is 01:08:17 Yeah. The interesting thing is this, the situation is going to get, like if something doesn't happen to stop it, right? I think the closest thing we had was the MOU. And I think we were very close to really stop in this. But the problem is, is that with continued strikes, you're not just, and I think we've obviously demonstrated this by now, you're not just going to stop Iran. You're just not going to kill them and defeat them. You know, we've said over the past month that we have defeated Iran and all their capabilities.
Starting point is 01:08:48 We've defeated all their missile launchers. We've defeated everything. We've literally, the United States has been saying this for a month. And then they just killed two of our soldiers. They hit multiple bases. They also take out a AWACs aircraft, which is worth billions of dollars. Or I think it's worth like $3 to $5 billion is one of our most sophisticated surveillance aircraft. for some reason we left this on the tarmac for them to see.
Starting point is 01:09:11 And this was something a general will say in the other day. Like, why the hell are we leaving our most expensive, capable aircraft on tarmacs throughout the region? It just doesn't make any sense. But either way, you know, if the airstrikes and the war continues, it's going to get more bloody, regardless of however you look at it, whether it's a ground invasion, whether it's more strikes or whether it's terrorism throughout the region, it's going to get worse. because you got to look at it this way. Like what would, you know, if you're consistently being hit, what are you going to do?
Starting point is 01:09:43 You know, and I think this is just, we're at a danger for mass escalation. And if for some reason that Iran is successful, right, with continued strikes, whether it's in Israel, whether they are highly successful in penetrating the Iron Dome in Israel, whether they continue to be successful, penetrating the United States air bases in the Middle East. That's when you're going to look at from a standpoint of like, when would Israel or the United States even use a nuke? Because that's a possibility. And we can't say that like neither country would do it, definitely not Israel.
Starting point is 01:10:24 And the United States is already, we've been the only country to ever use a nuke in battle, which was Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And so we've already done it once. and but what would stop Israel from doing that? Because I don't think it's morality. I don't think they, you know, I don't think it's something. I think the only thing that would really be stopping Israel from actually just dropping a nuke on Iran is the United States. In any respect at all the Israel has for the United States.
Starting point is 01:10:52 But it seems like Israel doesn't really technically have a lot of respect for the United States anymore. They've kind of done whatever the hell they wanted to do throughout this entire process. And so what happens if Israel does hit? I ran with a nuclear weapon. What is the United States going to do? They're not going to do a damn thing. They're actually probably just going to get on board with it and say we had to do it. That's what's going to happen.
Starting point is 01:11:12 And then what's going to happen after that? Well, you're talking about millions of people dead. And guess what they're going to say after it? Well, we had to do it. We thought, and I guarantee you this would be the wording. We had intel that they were about to launch a nuclear warhead on us, even though all this shit we've heard the whole time. They don't have them.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Exactly. But they would say that. They would come out and say, we've found out that they were about to launch a nuclear warhead on Israel or on the United States. And that would be the excuse. Case closed until maybe 50 years from now when we all, somehow someone finds out if unless shit gets worse. Because I, the reality is I think, I think our information sourcing is getting worse.
Starting point is 01:11:55 I think our control is getting worse. You have flock cameras everywhere. You got everything. But you got to. also keep in mind that Russia and China are helping out Iran. And they do have nuclear capabilities. Yeah, but is, but, but here's the thing. Like, is China or Russia going to rush in with nukes because we or Israel hit Iran?
Starting point is 01:12:19 I was saying if they did hit them with a nuke, maybe. I doubt it. I mean, I doubt it. I mean, because look, like I said, there, there is no winners. Well, I say there's no winners in a nuclear warhead or a nuclear war. the reality is, yes, there are winners in a nuclear war. It's the ones that don't have nukes or the ones that lose, right? It's the, like if you're going to hit a country that don't have nuclear warheads, then you're
Starting point is 01:12:41 the winner, right? That's why they don't want countries to have nuclear warheads because you always want to be the winner no matter what happens. And if Iran has a nuke or whoever, you can't ever be the winner against them because then you're just mutually insured destruction. Well, and at one time, that's what people are saying that Iran needed to have was a nuke to keep everything even ground like playing or whatever playing field. But that's also what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:13:07 That's the only way they can protect themselves from like somebody like us. Well, even, but even Trump said like, you know, he said like a month ago when he started actually speaking some truth for once. And he was like, well, look, you know, they, meaning Israel, wanted in this memorandum of understanding for Iran to get rid of all of their intercontinental ballistic missiles. and basically Israel wanted Iran to get rid of every capability to defend themselves whatsoever. Because if for some dumb reason, the Iran would actually agree to that, which you would never agree to taking out all of your defense systems, then what would happen? Well, then Israel would be all up in Iran the next day.
Starting point is 01:13:47 They would literally control Iran. And I've always said this. Iran actually should have a nuke. Because if Iran did have a nuclear warhead, this shit would not be happening. we would probably not have lost any soldiers right now. And look, Iran's, they want you to believe that Iran's just going to strike Israel or the United States with a nuke as soon as they have it. Bullshit. Because Iran, although, yes, they are Muslims.
Starting point is 01:14:13 They also are not dumb. Like, they know that if they hit Israel or Iran with a nuke, then they're also completely gone and blown off the face of the earth. If they hit Iran or Israel or sorry. I'm saying if Iran hits Israel or the United States with a nuke, if they had one, They know that they would be demolished. Yeah. Immediately. They know it.
Starting point is 01:14:31 Immediately. And so that's the whole thing is like they want you to believe this war is about not allowing Iran. It's like we don't play with Russia or China because we know. Exactly. They have those capabilities. Exactly. Yeah. Nukes create a weird sense of peace in a lot of ways because they really do.
Starting point is 01:14:52 Because you know like, hey, if you hit someone the nuke, then you know what's probably going to happen to you. Like, for example. I think, you know, although many would lead you believe that like Russia has been struggling with Ukraine. And they have in large part, considering how big Russia is and how many troops they've lost. And I mean, they're they're literally emptying out their prisons. And the crazy part, the crazy figure I saw the other day was from the time that they get someone out of prison or wherever in the Russian military, they go through two weeks of training. They send them, directly to their front lines and their average life expectancy from that time is, I think it said
Starting point is 01:15:36 like 22 hours or something. Wow. They're usually dead within that first 22 to 24 hours. So are they men on the field fighting drones from Ukraine? Yeah. Most of the drone because these drones are, I mean, they're, I think 50,000 a day is what they're. They're sending out. Because Ukraine don't hardly have anybody.
Starting point is 01:16:01 Yeah. Well, Ukraine's like playing smarter. They're not using men. They're using technology. Russia is too. But I mean, in large part, they're also still using a lot of, you know, warm bodies. And so is Ukraine. But that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:16:17 I mean, this world is crazy. And there's a lot of bad actors. And I, you know, is Iran government good? Absa freaking lukely not. Is Afghanistan or any of the other Middle East? countries have, you know, moral leaders? No. I mean, I think we've seen that throughout history. And unfortunately, I guess my biggest gripe with this whole thing is just the complete bullshit hypocrite or the hypocrisy of the right and conservatives, which I have been a conservative
Starting point is 01:16:49 of my whole life, but the right basically always being against wars and saying the Democrats are always the one that get us in the wars and all this shit, even though it's not really true. if you look back in history. But then we just 100% get on board with this shit. You know, it just makes no sense. And I think the biggest thing I hope that everybody realizes after listening to this is that a lot of people that you think you trust or did trust, you just can't anymore. And there's probably people listening right now that's like, oh, this guy is fucking screw this guy. He's an asshole or dumbass or whatever.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Or he's anti this or he's pro this. I'm not pro or anti anything, right? I am I am American first. I love America, but I want America to be good. I want America to be what America was supposed to be, what it was founded on. The morals, the values, everything that we have lost so many soldiers for that we, at least they thought they were fighting for. And it seems like if we've lost the amount of soldiers we have throughout various wars,
Starting point is 01:17:46 that our country would be a little better at this point. And it is good, but it's also really bad as far as corruption and all the shit that we have going on. I think we can all look around and see that. and don't get me wrong. Is it better than other countries in a lot of ways? Absolutely. But is it worse in some ways than some other countries?
Starting point is 01:18:06 Maybe. The big question here that we have to look out for is how this thing escalates. How does this Iran, United States, Israel conflict continue to escalate? And the way I see it is, we need to be looking right now over the next 24 to 48 hours to see what the United States response is to the social. soldiers deaths because Trump's going to want to make a big scene about this. Obviously, he's got to retaliate. He's got to do something huge.
Starting point is 01:18:34 And so then what will Iran's response be? Who will the United States kill in this response? And then how strong will Iran's response be? That's going to be the big question. And then we're going to see how this thing continues to escalate because each escalation point is going to get bigger. if something doesn't stop the you know the the the the tit for I guess tit for tat and we had a lot of videos to play to you guys but I think we just talked so much about all this other crazy shit
Starting point is 01:19:05 um yeah well I mean it's just you know it's it's frustrating right it's it's something that like when we're not on the podcast and I think about or I watch clips or you watch whatever it's frustrating to see um it is and And so we did just want to get this episode out of the way very quickly. But by the way, we are planning on some things for our Bigfoot trip, which we just recently talked to Ron Bulls. If you guys have not heard that episode about Bigfoot and the trip that we are going to try to take in October, go back and listen to an episode.
Starting point is 01:19:41 I want to get to a lot of conspiracy stuff. There's a lot of crazy stuff. We've got the UFO files that, I guess, a third release of UFO files that have come out. a lot of very interesting videos in that. We got some new evidence for ancient civilizations that I have been looking into a little bit here and there that I think I've found pretty fascinating. I think you guys will as well. And so that's what we want to do. We don't love to talk about politics and wars and all this shit.
Starting point is 01:20:07 It's actually one of our least favorite topics. But also we understand that everybody's kind of seeing it on social media. You're talking about it. So we just kind of wanted to come on and give our overall thoughts, I guess you can say. So that's going to be it for us. Oh, by the way, I think that we're going to have Mr. John Bray on the podcast over the next two or three days. For those that do not know who John Bray is, he's someone that Candace Owens and a lot of the researchers have used that have kind of gave this alternate theory about the Charlie Kirk assassination. And John Bray in particular has an entire website.
Starting point is 01:20:44 We actually played a couple of clips, I think, of his on past episodes. And so he is planning on coming on our podcast to break everything down. And just to kind of give you guys his perspective on this, really sit down and talk with him. I don't even think Candace or anybody's talked to him yet. They've used all of his research and all the things he's done. They use it all the time. But I think he's going to come on our show. I think it might potentially be like the second or third podcast he's done.
Starting point is 01:21:11 So if he comes on, he can lay it all out for you guys. You guys can decide. Obviously, we just had the Tyler Robinson pretrial stuff that. just wrapped up. But hopefully we get John on very soon. So I wanted to let you guys know that. And we hope that you guys are enjoying your summer. For us,
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