Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Israel Hamas War | Pro Palestine Protests | Jonathan Choe Interview

Episode Date: October 30, 2023

In this episode, we delve into the significant surge of Pro-Hamas and Pro-Palestine demonstrations both in the United States and across the globe, following the Israel-Palestine conflict. Our guest is Jonathan Choe, an experienced journalist who has reported extensively on the Black Lives Matter protests and civil unrest, as well as being at the forefront of recent movements in Seattle, Washington. Jonathan gives some amazing insight into the underlying sinister nature of the protests. All of this and more on this episode Israel Hamas War | Pro Palestine Protest In America | Jonathan Choe InterviewJonathan Choe X VideosOur ChannelsOur FacebookOur XOur InstagramInvestigate Earth Rumble

You've been gone. Welcome to Investigator, the podcast. I am your host, Chad, alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. Sherry, what is up? What is up? What is up, people? We're so glad you're here. Everyone, no matter who you are or what side you're on, I'm glad you're here.

Because if you're here, you're listening to what I need you to listen to. So I'm glad you're here. Yeah, yeah, for sure, guys. Welcome to the show. It is October 29, 2023. It is just a couple of days before Halloween. and although Halloween is supposed to be this scary, scary time for everyone around the country. Everyone is supposed to be scared.

You just pick one day and let's make everybody scared. But I think the problem is that Halloween don't even compare to how scared really. A lot of people are today around the world and especially people inside of the United States that are either pro-Israel, people that are in Israel. Yes, and even including the Palestinian civilians, everything sounds like and seems like it's going to hell. very fast. And so we're going to talk about that on this episode. I do want to obviously mention first, we have an amazing interview. It's about 25 minutes long, not a crazy long interview. But this is with a very, very seasoned journalist. This guy has worked for pretty much all of the mainstream type platforms, Fox, CNN, NBCBC, or not MSN, NBC, ABC, and then

also many local affiliates, you know. In Seattle. Yeah. He's been. there, done that. And so he has actually been on the ground covering this pro-Palestinian pro-Hamas movement. And then also he covered the pro-Black Lives Matter, the riots, everything that went along with that. And so he has a very, very good take on what is really going on. I'm sure some of you are seeing either on social media or TV that there is this mass uprising of people that are against Jews, that are against Israel, that want Israel dead, want Jews. one Jews dead.

This is literally happening in the United States of America. And it's not even anti-Semitism anymore. It's more like we're almost okay with being back to pro-Hitler days, right? We're not pro-Hitler days, but the days of Hitler.

And so that's what we're seeing. We ourselves, and we're going to take a minute in just a minute to talk about some things that have happened to us. Because of our Israel Hamas episodes, And we'll talk about that and we'll give our official statement to those people on this podcast because we want to be very clear about that. But guys, welcome to the show.

We've taken the weekend. We've kind of not done a lot. The last episode we had, we were talking about the main mass shooting. And obviously, Robert Card was found dead by suicide. And so we had covered that at least one episode. And then before that, we had four, I believe, four episodes. where we talked about Israel and the Hamas War, and we had talked about kind of all angles of that.

We had Rashid on, where he talked about the history and some of the biblical side of it. He also talked about some of his experiences because he is a world traveler and his job that he does being a federal government employee. A lot of the stuff that he sees, we also had Sherry's brother on, where he gave the history of Israel,

him as a Jew, gave that side of things, things. Then the first episode on Israel and the Hamas war was just Sherry and I, which is also doing great numbers. All of our episodes, all three of those episodes are doing amazing numbers. I mean, I'm talking about, I believe we are, at least we're at, I haven't looked lately, but we were basically the top podcast out of the top 10 things on Spotify. We were like three out of those 10. And usually number two, number three, number five, whatever it was. And that makes me feel so fortunate because I feel like God is giving us a place in a platform to talk about these things. And we have to talk about them and we have to be real about it.

For sure. Yeah. And so with that, you know, when you, now listen, we've had a lot of big episodes on this podcast. We've talked about a lot of very important topics. Anything from true crime stuff to to wars to COVID to, you name it. And we've even talked about the lighter stuff, the Bigfoot episodes. The, I guess you can call UFOs maybe like. light side, but then, you know, that's also getting very weird, too. So, you know, who knows about that?

JFK, MLK, Princess Diana, all of them. We've talked about a lot of, like, conspiracies. Yeah, a lot of things. But when things are happening in their current now, we have to talk about them. Yeah, especially as big as the thing is. So, you know, with that said, though, we have never had backlash, I guess, as far as, Israel and the Palestinian conflict or Israel and not even the Palestinian conflict, Israel and the Hamas terrorist conflict. And it's not backlash from our listeners. It's not you guys, you core listener groups that we have backlash from, right? And when we say backlash, we're not really just talking about backlash. We're talking about, you know, death threats.

We're talking about things that are people have emailed us saying that, you know, stuff like we hope you burn just like the Jews and people. basically alluding to they want to find her address. I mean, you name it. And it really all happened on, it started one day. And Chad woke up to these messages. Friday morning.

And I'm like, why aren't you such a bad mood? He's like, well, all of a sudden, all these messages are coming in. Yeah. And they're all like death threats, basically. Yeah. I was like, but you've got to not let that get to you because you're getting to them.

Yeah. Well, so anyway, so we just want to be very clear. all those people that are messaging, really mostly emailing, stuff like that, and you're emailing from, you know, probably protected accounts, you're probably going through two VPNs to where hopefully no one can find you

because you're a keyboard warrior. And even if you're not a keyboard order, I still don't give a damn, right? You're never, ever going to threaten or silence us into saying or not saying anything. That's number one. And I want to make that very clear. We're not afraid of any one of you at all whatsoever.

Like 1% I'm not afraid of you. Like in some parts of me, I just hope that you guys are brave enough one day to start your shit with us. Because if that's the case, good for it. You know, when I watch videos, right, especially some of the videos lately, especially people that are, you know, really chanting for kill the Jews, kill the Jews, pro Hamas. you know, whatever y'all's weird, dumb chants are now, really it was a lot of the same chance you heard in the summer of love, Black Lives Matter riots, you name it, you're literally singing the exact same chance.

You're just changing the freaking names of whatever you're chanting about now. I mean, you need to get more original too. But I just want to be very clear. You're not going to silence us. You don't scare us. And you never will. And we're not going to stop speaking. about what is what is right or at least what are what we believe to be right and as far as we're

speaking and we're here we want you to know that we do love you and we're right well no i love you i'm praying for you i'm praying for you to have different views well sherry does i don't know what's going on in your head but i want to change those views and i want you to understand what's really going on in the world chary what do what do you call those people that are that uh have this belief system and they're and they're being something what is that I don't know what you're talking about. Antifa? No, no, no.

What are you talking about? Like if someone's being taught something and they're being influenced. Oh, my God. You don't me to say the word wrong. Indctrination. Yeah, you did. Yeah, you did. Indctrination.

I think a lot of you guys have been indoctrinated. Even you Ivy League college guys have been indoctrinated. And I think you have to really look at what's going on in this world. Yeah. Never in this world have I ever seen what I'm seeing what I'm seeing today. in this world. And this is what's scary to me. This is making me feel like

this really could be the end of times. Because I've never seen the whole world like uprise like they are. Pro-Palestinian. And I get it. Even my mom was turning a little bit the other day. She's like, well, I'm feeling sorry for the Palestinian people that are there

because they can't get out. Well, they're using them and the hostages as human shields because these are barbaric people They're terrorists. They're terrorists. They're evil. They don't give a crap about the people in Israel. They don't give a crap about the people that are there.

And they don't give a crap about you. Yeah. And that's the problem. And here you guys are supporting these guys. Believe me, especially if you're a lesbian, gay, or whatever, I've seen all this stuff going on, pro-Palestine. If you are living there, they would cut your head off. These people, they don't put up with anything. They do what they want to do.

And you're protesting for these people. I just I want you to know the truth. I'm sorry. Well, and here's the thing. Like with our interview this coming up, by the way, which I think is an amazing interview,

I think Jonathan, and his name is Jonathan Cho, by the way, he's got some amazing videos out there on the internet. Like I said, he's worked for many news platforms and agencies. And, you know, he does a very good job in 25 minutes just from his on-the-ground

experiences of seeing these mass uprisons of the pro-Palestinian movement, the pro-Hamas movement. And it's not just pro-Palestinian. Okay, we understand it is, it is okay to be, to feel sorry for and obviously the civilians not to die, the civilians that are innocent and the innocent

people. We get it, right? I mean, we would feel the same way for any innocent civilization, any innocent, not civilization, but any innocent population. Right. And there's even hostages there that are probably like being shields for these evil people.

Yeah. So we get that, right? But it's not about that at the end of the day. This is much bigger than that. And Jonathan explains it very, very clearly in this interview. Now, as we said, you know, when we, I guess, hover over the target or we start talking about things that make sense or the things that are really happening today. That's why, you know, obviously.

And look, I don't know we're all the people that send us the messages and emails. and whatever came from. Nor do we care. No, we don't care. But I'm sure that we are posted somewhere in some, I don't know, Antifa locker room. I don't know. Well, maybe we should care. Maybe you should try to help these people and pray for these people. That's what we've got to do. That's what the Bible says to do, is to pray for these people. Well, I don't know. I mean, there are parts of the Bible where they just say, hey, go into this place and just destroy everything. So, I mean, I don't know. To me, I'm not in that mood to pray or give a damn about those people that wrote me or wrote us and said that I don't

care really I don't so you know Sherry I understand if you want to pray for those people go for it I'm just not that type person you know I'm not like if I'm one of those people like hey if you want to make me an enemy I will be your enemy and I'm and I will be I will try my best to be the best enemy you've ever had yeah and I am a fighter too but I'm also a fighter of love well whatever dude like you can say the cool stuff and whatever it sounds good on here but That's just not me. Okay. So anyway, so where were we at?

This movement and what is going on in this world today is very, very concerning. We are sleepwalking right into not only just World War III, but we are sleepwalking. Let's just talk about it in our country for a second. We have mass uprisons, mass movements on college campuses everywhere to where these college and universities are allowing basically death threats to the Jewish community. They, they, they, you have, you have Jewish students that are on campuses that are having to hide out in, uh, you know, libraries and, in, in, in locked, you know, classrooms. They're having to hide out from these pro-Palestinian movements to where they're banging

on the doors trying to get to, uh, the Jewish kids. And listen, a lot of these guys are not even from college. They don't even go to college. Yes. And, and, and, and it's like, sickening to me. Yeah. And fortunately and, unfortunately. and unfortunately, you know, just like Jonathan Cho in a lot of his videos, you know, these universities, a lot of these universities are public-funded universities.

They are public. You can go on these campuses. You can, you know, walk amongst the students and all these things. And that is your right to do that as a taxpayer and citizen. And so when you have that and allow that, though, we are getting these college campuses infiltrated with not just college students, which are also obviously being indoctrinated by this mass uprising and mass. movement of this basically Marxism agenda, which is to overthrow the democracy of the United States of America and to do whatever they can to stop the American way of life. And this is happening, guys. This is not a year or five years from now. We've talked about it on this podcast so many times. We've been doing this podcast for five years. We've talked about the New World Order.

We've talked about the one world government, how they're going to, well, we believe, really incorporate this one world government and overthrow. the United States of America. And we have always said, you know, yes, with a powerful military, militaristic country like the United States of America, where you have all these weapons of war, you have a large fleet of nuclear arsenal, you have probably even weapons that we don't know about. How would you overthrow a country like that, especially what used to be, at least, a large patriotic country?

How do you overthrow that? Well, we've always said you overthrow that from within. You have to do it from within. And so that is what they're doing. And they're on the backs of dark money. They're on the backs of money from around the world, the globalist movement. And they are funding these institutions and these things to be able to hopefully destroy America from within. We've seen it with the Black Lives Matter movement.

That was, I believe, the dress rehearsal for what we're about to see. And, you know, we've obviously been wondering, well, you know, 2024 is coming up. What's going to be the thing? Is it going to be Black Lives Matter? Is it going to be a mass shooting? Like, are they going to turn blacks and whites against each other? And look, this is just the beginning. 2024 hasn't even happened yet.

Like, literally, the elections are pretty much a year away. And this is just the beginning. Yeah, this is the beginning. And it could be the beginning of the end, unfortunately. Well, I've always said, and this is just my belief, and this is something I've always believed, especially for the past few years. I said, I don't think there's going to ever be another actual. election in the United States of America.

Now, there may be a, what do they call those? There may be like a like a false election. Yeah, but it's like it's just for show basically, right? It's just like, oh, we got election. I mean, this is what many countries, they have dictatorships. That's what they do. They hold these BS elections

on the basis of, oh, well, just show people why we had an election. And then everyone either dies on the other side or they're in prison or whatever the case is. I mean, we've seen this forever. We've seen this in China. We saw it in Russia. we definitely see in Russia a lot. North Korea, they don't even try to put on shows anymore there.

They're just like, no, we will kill you if you don't agree with us. We've actually even seen it in your grain. Yeah, absolutely. I hate to say that, but we did. Yeah, absolutely, we have. So we've seen all these things. And I've been saying for a very long time, for at least three years, I said, I don't think we're going to have another election in the United States.

Now, we're not going to get biblical or any of that stuff on this, on this episode in particular. And I have said, right, I've said on other episodes, that, you know, one thing I really want to do, and what I am doing now is deciphering. I'm trying to go through the entire Bible. I'm trying to understand it and make my own opinions around it based on everything, kind of where I came from, the middle part of that to where when I got older and I questioned everything. And now I'm just trying to come back to reality of, hey, let me go through everything again and then form my opinions based on everything that I've learned, everything I know now with my mindset.

I mean, because I think honestly, guys and girls out there, we're all different people now than we were five years ago. And I'm not just saying everyone can say that. I mean, I'm saying, say 10 years ago, you could say, well, a year ago, I was different than now. So, right? So 10 years ago versus 9 years ago. But what I'm saying is, especially since COVID, especially since the mass sci-up operation has happened in this country and around the world, I think that there was a, there was a, there was a. subset of people, which I'm very proud of, by the way, that subset of people that really did leave the herd of sheep that was going towards the slaughterhouse. And these people said, I am not

following these damn sheep in the slaughterhouse. I know they're liars. I've seen them all lie before. And I'm definitely not going to that slaughterhouse. I know, I know they're promising us that, hey, just come over here. We're going to take you to a better pasture. Right. And then so, but there are a subset of those sheep. A lot of you guys. listening and so many others that said I'm not falling for this shit no more and so when we say that I have changed I know you guys have changed and we have changed with the understanding and knowledge that we have gained especially the past three or four years and what's really sad about this sheep slaughtering thing is the young people the young people are believing

what these people are driving to the slaughterhouse want them to believe that they're bringing them to the slaughterhouse. They're saying, oh, you know what? You're lazy. You don't want to work? Fine. Go the way we want you to go. Be a socialist.

Be a communist. Be this. Be a marketist. You don't ever have to work a day in your life. Be lazy. Don't work hard. But I'm telling you guys this. Anyone, especially young people out there.

You just reminded me. I'm telling you right now. That girl that was on the plane. I don't know. Well, I'm just telling you the truth. You're not going to get anywhere without your own work and your own input into your own life. Well, that depends. You know, people can give you this stuff, but if you want to be given these things, you're

not going to have the freedom to choose what you want to do and what you don't want to do. You're going to live where they tell you to live. You're going to do what they want you to do. You're not going to have a choice in your life. If that's what you want, then go for it. I don't want that. I want freedom in my life. Yeah, but they think that that's leading to their freedom to their whatever it is in their head that they think it's leading to.

But you make a good point. I mean, it's the same thing. It's like, oh, socialism will work. And let's drive home to socialism narrative. And let's make sure that we really just overthrow the government of the United States. And let's make sure every person from really even high school to college believes this narrative. Yeah. And they don't ever have to like work or do anything.

That's what's really driving these kids. Sherry. Go ahead. You want to finish what I was saying? Sorry. I'm sorry, babe. All I'm saying is that socialism is a slaughterhouse, right? And communism is a slaughterhouse and all of these things.

And so if all of these people are going towards this socialism agenda, this communist agenda. And some of you are probably wondering, why are you even talking about socialism and communism? And what does it have to do with pro-Palestine and pro? Well, Jonathan Cho and this interview is going to explain. explain this very well, so I don't want to get too deep into that. But I did want to play real quick. Alex Jones actually posted through his wife's account, which is hilarious to me on X because Alex is still banned on X, but I did want to play something that Alex Jones had to say through

his wife's account. And if you guys actually want to follow his wife, it's Erica Wolf, W-U-L-F-F, and then Jones, and that's at Twitter or at X, whatever you want to call it. But this is what Alex had to say for his Halloween message. Check it out. Too. Humanity has a real problem with the development of film and television

to distinguish fiction from reality. People love horror and gore and torture and demon creatures, eating little children. They think it's all entertaining and fun, but it hits your subconscious as if it's real. And then when the real thing happens like wars

and death and destruction and giant child trafficking rings and the prospect of nuclear war, people can't differentiate because they've been desensitized. So if everybody having fun out there with Halloween, I'm not judging you. But I'm just simply reminding that the real horror we face is nuclear war with Russia and nuclear war in the Middle East

with Israel going after its neighbors. Turkey is not saying they may invade Israel for the first time in Israel's 70-something year history. This is truly horrifying. We need to say no to war on both sides. We need to let the bankers and Black Rock and Larry Fink know. Hell no to your damn. wars. Fuck you. We do not want to see our planet destroy. That's the true horror, ladies and gentlemen,

and that's what we're facing. And these same psychotic big brokerage firms and big pharma have now been proven frauds when it came to the shot, frauds when it came to the origin of COVID and everything else. They are the true monsters that are mercilessly destroying and endangering our civilization because they more than anybody are disconnected from their humanity. The political leaders, around the world, by and large, are psychotic sociopaths working in concert to enslave and engage in predator activities against humanity. So I want to just put that message out there as Halloween comes up that the true horror of mass death and destruction is intensifying around the world and humanity is in the crosshairs. We need to differentiate fiction from reality and say no to the real

horrors that are happening in front of us right now. So there you go. So that's what Alex Jones had to say about what the real horrors are with Halloween. Now, Alex kind of took the, I guess, the path of, well, we're really facing a nuclear war. And we are, by the way. I mean, that's just another problem, right? If what is happening in our country and around the world doesn't change drastically soon, is either going to be nuclear war or this crazy movement that we're seeing.

And guys, this is not pro-Palestinian movement, and I'm not going to get into this. Jonathan Cho was going to get into this in just a second, but this is not about pro-Palestine. It was never about pro-Palestine. It's never been about Black Lives Matter. But I want Jonathan Cho to explain that. Now, I want to give you guys a quick update, by the way, on what the latest is with the Israel and Hamas War. So as of today, about four hours ago, there was a plane of Israel or Jews.

Israelites or Jews. There was a plane of Jews from Israel that went, I guess they were trying to get them out of Israel. They went to this airport, Dagestan, in Russia, to where, I guess they were just trying to get them out of Israel. So for whatever reason, this plane of Jews went to Russia, Dagestan. Dagestan just happens to be pretty pro. I guess there's quite a few Muslims in this city. Actually, Dagestan also is a place where there are a lot of very good UFC fighters. And I'm not positive.

It seems like almost that Habib is from Dagestan, I believe. So this plane lands at this airport. And there are these massive amounts of people that pretty much envelop the airplane from all sides. And they are looking for Jews on this plane. They want to, what seems like, kill the Jews on this airplane. So just to explain a little further, the initial reports that first came out about this, and this is what the idea says, but hundreds storm into, and I cannot pronounce this, Makalana or Makala, Makala, Makala airport in Russia, allegedly searching for Jews from Israel flight.

And the video here says, watches hundreds of Muslims storming into the, International Airport in Russia. The region reportedly kill Israelis and Jews after rumors began that an Israeli aircraft was preparing to land at the airport and the situation has been unfolding for several hours with individuals affiliated with pro-Hamas groups also entering hotels and other public locations across the region in search of Israelis. Now, this story has obviously developed. The IDF, which is basically the Israeli dispense force, update on ongoing Russian. airport crisis. Number one, there is an event that has not yet ended. A relatively small number

of Israelis and Jews are currently isolated and secured at the airport. We are working to have the flight take off from Moscow as the conditions permit to Moscow. Sorry, they're trying to get it to Moscow. And then security forces in Israel and Israeli ambassador are working with local security forces to try to make this happen. The update also following the Russian airport incident, there is no longer a safe place within the territory of Russia, and we must evacuate is the quote. The chief rabbi of the local Jewish community urgently requested to evacuation of 400 families totaling approximately 1,000 people due to safety concerns in Russia. And so this is the chief rabbi, I guess, of the local Jewish community.

And so that was the latest update on that. So obviously, this is happening in Russia. This is something that they are going after. Jews. They actively want to kill Jews. And we're seeing this around the world. There's never been more anti-Semitic sentiment around the world than now. Now, I want to read something. But it just reminds me real quick when my great-grandfather was in Russia, kind of the same thing was happening. My great-grandfather tried to get as many of my family members out of Russia, because we're Jewish. We even changed our last name to hide from these people that hated us so much.

Yeah. And I don't get this at all. Like, I don't understand why there's so much hatred. Well, all right. So I said I wasn't going to go Bible verse, but actually one of our listeners sent us this verse, and I want to make sure that I read this. Because, listen, whether you believe in a Bible or not, I said that I'm going to be researching the Bible and not the stuff.

But I think that if you want a verse about Jerusalem or Israel, right, Zacharii 12 says, I will make Jerusalem and Judah like a cup of poison to all the nearby nations that send their armies to surround Jerusalem. Jerusalem will be a heavy stone burdening to the world. And though all the nations of the earth unite in an attempt to move her, they will all be crushed. In that day, says the Lord, I will bewildered the armies drawn up against her and make fools of them, for I will watch over the people of Judah, but blind, all her enemies. And the clans of Judah

shall say to themselves, the people of Jerusalem have found strength in the Lord of host their God. So basically, this is saying, one day, one day, there will be a nation of everyone that comes against Israel. And during that day, the Bible says, I'm going

to humble the world. It will be and a lot of people often tie in, I believe, this verse to the end times, the global war, the end, the Battle of Armageddon, and a lot of these kind of end of time prophecies. And so if you do tie that in any way to that Bible verse, I don't think there's ever about to be a time that every country surrounding Israel is about to go against Israel. And I even say potentially United States may also come into this. I mean, it's just so, like, saddening to me to see this all over the world.

These protests, I guess, Israel, when did this ever happen before? Like, I don't understand this at all. I just don't get it. Yeah, it's pretty nuts. But guys, without further ado, I want to get into the Jonathan Cho interview here. I believe it's fascinating. He has great insight. He is an amazing journalist, an independent journalist now.

He's worked for pretty much every affiliate or company out there, news organizations. news organization out there. And, you know, he is unbiased. You can obviously tell he's not someone that necessarily is Republican or Democrat. Right. Although we didn't ask him. But you can tell. But you can tell.

Yeah. You can tell that's not what he is. He's just one of these journalists that have worked for these massive platforms that finally said, oh, my God, I have to tell the real story because there's something much bigger going on here. And unless I go on my own, I'm never going to have the ability to tell my story. and so without further ado, guys, here is the Jonathan Cho interview.