Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Israel IDF Knew About October 7 Before Attack | Israel Hamas Palestine War

Episode Date: June 23, 2024

A bombshell article from the Jerusalem Post reveals leaked documents indicating that Israel's IDF and Mossad were aware of the October 7th attack at least a month in advance. The attack resulted in 1,...200 deaths and over 200 hostages. If these allegations are true, it raises critical questions: Why would Israel allow Hamas attackers to invade? What could be the motive behind such a decision? This is a highly sensitive issue for all sides involved, but it is crucial to ask these difficult questions. How deep does the potential corruption within the Israeli government go? All of this and more on this episode of Israel IDF Knew About October 7 Before Attack | Israel Hamas Palestine WarThe Jerusalem Post Article HereOur X Account

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Starting point is 00:00:08 Life is a winding road. Hotel and where it goes. Driving through days and nights. Won't stop for traffic lights. So and welcome to Investigator with podcast. I'm your host Chad alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. On tonight's episode, we're going to be talking about the new article from the Jerusalem Post, where it talks about the IDF new of Amos's plan to kidnap 250 people before October 7th.
Starting point is 00:00:45 This comes after the October 7th attack claimed over a thousand Jewish lives at the hands of Hamas. Obviously, there are many questions here. If Israel did know, why did they let it happen? What would have been the benefit for Israel to do that? Did the United States potentially even know of the attack prior to October 7th? All of these questions, we're going to try to at least get to the bottom of. There's going to be some tough things in this episode because the reality of the situation is, as it seems, is that if you question Israel's government, they call you anti-Semitic.
Starting point is 00:01:19 And that's just not true. But we do have to get to the bottom of this. I also notice some similarities in this to some of the tragedies or major events that the United States has had in our past. And so we have to at least try to answer or try to get to the bottom of some of these questions because I think there are over a thousand Jewish people that are now dead, the families of those people that also deserve to know the truth. And so we're going to talk about all that. It is June the 23rd, 2024. Welcome to the show, guys.
Starting point is 00:01:52 It's been a few days since we have had an episode out. We actually released the last episode was a re-upload of our Dr. Peter McCola interview in Atlanta. Hope you guys enjoyed that. Dr. Peter McCullough is extremely brilliant when it comes to the whole COVID-19 pandemic and all of that. But we felt like we had to do this episode because I always, Obviously, this has been a contentious subject for a lot of people. And Sherry and I are no stranger to contentious subjects, especially when it comes to the Israel-Palestine conflict, mainly because for those that have not been following our podcast, or maybe you're new here, Sherry comes from a Jewish family. I come, I guess, predominantly from a Christian family, although I've not always completely followed those, I guess, beliefs throughout my life.
Starting point is 00:02:39 I think there's a lot of things I'm starting to realize and come to now that I'm getting stronger, I guess, in. spirituality with myself. And so we're just trying to find answers to all of these things that so many people question. I think obviously in 2024 and throughout, I guess, especially 2024, where you have access to information like we've never had access to before, these things pop up. And I think it gives us an opportunity to talk through some of these things and at least try to give our feedback on this. Sherry, did this article surprise you? I'm just curious when you heard this article. At first, it really did surprise me, but the more and more we've looked into it, it is no surprise because it seems like every government around the world is corrupt. And it doesn't matter if it's Israel, America, or Australia or anywhere else, Canada.
Starting point is 00:03:28 We all have corrupt governments. And I think that's where we have to make a divide between religion and government because they're two separate things. Yeah, you're right. I do agree with that. We tried to do this episode yesterday. and it's not that we didn't get through it necessarily. There are probably some things that I want to make very clear on this go-around that I think I need to address. And I think it's very important that everybody understands we have to be able to question authority at all times, especially when the authority is over the people.
Starting point is 00:04:00 And what we're talking about specifically here to what Sherry just basically said was we're talking about governments. We're not we're not painting a broad picture of all Jewish people, obviously in this case, because let me explain something you guys. There's a lot of Jewish people that do not like Benjamin Netanyahu. There is a lot of Jewish people that have protested what is actually going on in Gaza and in Palestine. And getting to a point where we have to start asking questions, is there going to be a ceasefire? How many civilians are going to have to die to eradicate Hamas, which is what Israel wants to do? And, you know, at what point is civilian life valuable, right? I mean, because it seems like because of political or government ideas,
Starting point is 00:04:40 that civilian life no longer becomes valuable to those people. And I think that the more everyone is waking up today, I think we see that our lives in a lot of ways are not valuable to our government. If you look at the things that are happening in the United States, you know, the United States is basically doing everything anti-American. They have interest all over the world except for their own country. They don't care about the homeless people and the homeless situation. That is rampant in the United States right now. They don't care about the fentanyl crisis. They don't care about inner Chicago and all of those people up there that are just shooting
Starting point is 00:05:16 to hell and killing each other. And this is happening in inner cities across the country. This is happening all around the world in various parts of the world. And I think there is more so a, I think there's a bigger purpose behind a lot of this stuff. And we've talked about a lot of this. But before we get in that, let's go ahead and get into the article. IDF knew of Hamas's plan to kidnap 250 people before. October 7th attack, the IDF had precise information about Hamas's intentions, but due to prevailing
Starting point is 00:05:44 conceptions in the security establishment and possible negligence by officials, the warning signs were not acted on. So a newly surfaced document has revealed that the Israeli defense forces and intelligence systems had detailed knowledge of Hamas's plan to raid Israel and kidnapped 250 people weeks before the October 7 massacre. The document, which was compiled in the Gaza division, outlined Hamas's intentions and was known to top intelligence officials according to the report by Can News. The document titled Detailed End to In Raid Training was distributed on September 19th, 2023, and described in detail the series of exercises conducted by Hamas' elite units. These exercises included raided military posts and Kizboot.
Starting point is 00:06:29 I don't know how you say that. Kisbutum collective communities in Israel, kidnapping soldiers and civilians and maintaining the hostages once they were in the Gaza Strip. The report by Cannes, stated security sources told Can News that the document was known to the intelligence leadership at the very least in the Gaza division. Now, the document's revelations came in the wake of widespread criticism over the failure to anticipate and prevent the October 7th attack, which resulted in significant casualties and hostages. Now, warning signs were not acted upon. The IDF had precise information about Hamas's intentions. But due to prevailing conceptions within the security establishment and possible negligence by senior officials, the warning signs were not acted upon.
Starting point is 00:07:14 The report further detailed that Israeli intelligence officials monitored the exercise and documented the steps. Hamas's plan to take after breaching Israeli territory and taken over military posts. The expected number of hostages, according to the document, was between 200 and 250. Israeli intelligence officials who monitored the exercise detailed in the document the next steps, after breaching into Israel and taking over the post, determining that the instruction is to hand over the captured soldiers to the company commanders, and the expected number of hostages, as states, is between 200 and 250. The information combined with a new and sophisticated security barrier,
Starting point is 00:07:53 completed two years before the attack, was believed to have made such an assault improbable. However, the barrier failed during the Hamas attack, highlighting a significant intelligence and security oversight. The general staff investigating team is expected to present initial findings from this failure to the chief of staff in the coming weeks. As the country seeks to understand how such a lapse in security could occur despite having detailed advanced knowledge of the enemy's plans. The Israel-Hamas war began on October 7th when Hamas launched an attack with thousands of terrorists infiltrating from Gaza border and taken more than 240 hostages into the Gaza Strip. During the massacre, more than 1,200 Israelis and foreign nationals were murdered, including over 350 in the Raim music festival and hundreds of Israeli civilians across the Gaza border communities.
Starting point is 00:08:43 As of right now, I believe there are 120 hostages that still remain in Gaza's captivity. So, this is a post from the Jerusalem Post. This outlines a detailed report that was given to intelligence officials and government, in particular, that, IDF and Mossad. And for those that don't know who Mossad is, Mossad is basically the CIA. If you look at how good the CIA is at being able to target, find, and basically spearhead potential attacks, CIA is best of that, along with the FBI. Now, CIA typically is supposed to operate outside of the United States to, I guess,
Starting point is 00:09:23 what they say to ensure security of America's homeland. So therefore, they go around the world and they do all this crazy. stuff. And a lot of times, the CIA will do things like military coups or overthrow governments or set up things to where it either destabilizes certain regions or destabilizes certain countries. For whatever reason that may be, we don't know. But what we do know is that especially the CI has been a lot more involved in the United States as businesses, including even politicians, especially over the past four to eight years. Obviously, if you ask a lot of people, many people believe also CIA had some part in maybe killing JFK, John F. Kennedy, the president.
Starting point is 00:10:05 So obviously that's not a foreign issue. That is an assassination if that does hold to be true. So how do you think that the Israeli defense forces and Mossad, keeping in mind that they are just as talented, just as knowledgeable, and just as, I guess you can say, aware of their security risk, as the CIA, how did they let this happen? That's a great question. How did they let this happen? Especially, I think they are better suited than the CIA. I think they have more information than the CIA does. And I think at times they both work closely together.
Starting point is 00:10:44 I think they're almost a combined unit in ways, like a hidden unit that most of us don't see up front. How did they miss this? There's a few questions I have. They either missed it because they didn't know the exact date, but I think later we'll figure out that they do know the exact date. So that can't be it. They missed it because they wanted them to come in and kill Israelis so that they can get rid of Hamas terrorist group. That would be the only reason.
Starting point is 00:11:14 And, you know, our government has done this before also. I mean, if you even want to take an account to 9-11, I believe that we knew there was going to be attack on the Twin Towers. I think we knew before it happened. it happened so that we could start a war with Afghanistan. Yeah, for sure. So I think in this case, I think that it goes back to a corrupt government and a corrupt massage. No, I mean, and the reality of this is, though, is, you know, when we talk about Israel,
Starting point is 00:11:43 though, here is the issue, right? And this is an issue that we've had, you know, if you can't talk about corruption in Israeli government, but you can talk about corruption in the United States government, which we all do. I mean, 90% or 80% of, you know, of our episodes have been about corruption in the United States government. We have had many episodes on that. You know, from COVID-19 to just overall corruption, to FBI, the CIA, to JFK, to Martin Luther King, to, I mean, we could go down the list. But it seems, you know, there is this new bill,
Starting point is 00:12:13 which is basically an anti-Semitism bill. But in that bill, which is important, and we'll get to in just a little bit, it basically outlines what you are or are not allowed to say, in particular, about either connections, ties, or the Israeli government themselves, or certain leaders in mainstream media, all these things, because they are tied to Israel. So essentially outlaws you as a United States citizen to be able to question these things or even say things point blank, period, especially about facts that exist or whatever those things may be. And even in some cases, what the Bible itself says, because then they label that anti-Semitism. And the problem is, is that I believe, that the anti-Semitism, the whole thing there, obviously no one should be anti-Semitic and
Starting point is 00:13:00 hate anyone based on religion or color or anything else. We've never ever thought that, right? But I also don't think that a government should be able to hide behind bills such as the anti-Semitism bill. And we'll get specifically into what that bill actually outlines and details in just a bit, but we should not allow corruption to hide behind anti-Semitism bills or things like that. We see that in things. are trying to also pass in the United States, whether it be the hate crime bills and all these various things. And the reason why they want to enact these hate crime bills is so that people that do very bad things, such as burn cities down or, you know, completely, I mean, for example,
Starting point is 00:13:41 remember when CNN, the Summer of Love in 2020, when they're literally reporting and they're like mostly peaceful protest and yet behind them, all these buildings are burning. And so you're not allowed to say anything because they had a freaking sign that said BLM, Black Lives Matter. And if you go against BLM, even if we burn down towns or cities, then you are racist. That's essentially what, in my opinion, the anti-Semitism bill in some ways is also trying to do. They're trying to protect things and their interests because, as you said, Mossad, CIA, United States and Israel, and we're talking about how close they really are, they have vested interest to keep corruption quiet in both sides.
Starting point is 00:14:21 I don't know what Israel does as far as, you know, the Jewish people know and how corrupt the United States government is over there. I'd be curious to know. But over here, it's just, you know, they can't hide all the corruption the United States is involved in on a daily basis. I totally agree with you. And I think with this bill, I agree. I don't think they should have this bill in place because of corrupt governments.
Starting point is 00:14:43 But I think what they're doing is they're hiding behind a religion. They're hiding behind Jews. Jewish people and they're using Jews to hide behind. And I think that's wrong. I think it's, you have to have a balance or a split between government and religion. And when we think about Israel, we think about Jewish people. It's a Jewish state. It's a Jewish state.
Starting point is 00:15:04 But the corruption of the government has nothing to do with the people that are Jewish. You know what I'm saying? And I think they're trying to use the Jewish people to allow the country to have this bill, I guess, is what I'm saying. And yeah, and basically just to get away with things potentially that they wouldn't otherwise because it is a Jewish state. For example, if the United States was labeled a Christian nation, which technically it used to be, although it's nowhere close to like what Israel is for Jewish people. I mean, the United States is not technically a Christian nation anymore. I mean, we have a dwindling Christian population. But we were founded on a Christian religion.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Yeah, Christian basis, all that stuff. But even still, even if you call us a Christian nation, it's still. not the same as if, you know, the United States goes and attacks whoever, right? Say, say we attack Russia. And does people automatically look at United States attacking Russia as Christians attacking someone else? No, that's not usually how that works. But you do have, like, for example, there's many countries in the Middle East that are, you know, they're Muslim. They're Muslim countries. We know Muslims. We've literally talked to, we've literally talked to them about what they believe in their religion, so on and so forth. But there are 100% radicalized,
Starting point is 00:16:19 movements and the sections in all of those religions. Now, I'm not necessarily know about Jewish people in general. I think there's, I think pretty much many governments are radicalized to some degree, not all, but there are a lot. And I think one of them is the United States. I think the case that some people are starting to make here with the Israel Hamas thing is, number one, if you freaking knew about it, why did you not stop it? Because you, if you did know and did nothing, or, and especially if you gave a stand down order for your military for over seven hours, then you are just as responsible for those lives that were lost in Israel as Hamas was, in my opinion. Whether or not Hamas was planning this and the whole nine, you could have stopped it.
Starting point is 00:17:00 But did you not stop it because you knew that you were going to go in and annihilate Gaza? You knew that this would give you not only the opportunity to do so to where you either gain the land or you basically, you know, kind of like we've done in many countries as well, the United States has done. We basically occupy these regions, although they always say, oh, we're not occupying this country, but most people don't know that the United States is occupying probably more countries right now than you can imagine. And that's the big question here. Well, the Gaza Strip is occupied by refugees, and that's all they are. They're refugees. There are people placed in this portion of Palestine that don't belong to anywhere. So they're stuck in this place and they have nowhere to go. No countries around them will take them in.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Turkey, Jordan, nobody will take them in. Now, unfortunately, they have Hamas as their government. Now, in my opinion, Hamas is a terrorist group. And we can get into that discussion later. Oh, yeah, for sure they are. They are a terrorist group. Yeah, absolutely. And I'm just wondering, this terrorist group, Hamas, wanting to go in and infiltrate Israel,
Starting point is 00:18:09 what's the benefit? Because they knew if they come in and they try to take down Israel and get hostages and all these things that Israel is going to attack them. what is the benefit of them doing this in the first place? That's a good question. And, you know, instead of blaming Israel for Hamas attacking, we got to understand why did Hamas attack? What was the benefit for them? Well, see, it makes, it still made zero sense to me, right? Obviously, you have all these pro-Palestinian protesters that are calling Hamas freedom fighters, right?
Starting point is 00:18:38 Although, if they're such freedom fighters and they really care so much about their people, why are they hiding behind their people and infiltrating with the people in a lot of cases? because I guess they thought that, well, you know, if as long as we stay in this school or this hospital or this region or this area where most civilians are or as civilians move to refugee camps in various places, as long as we stay with these people, we're will be fine. And this is how this is our survival plan, right? And then Israel basically said, well, you know what? You're still not going to survive because we're still going to blow you to shit, right? And unfortunately, this is now has become a bad situation because you have thousands. I think as a blast count, there was 37,000 at least people that are dead. Now, we don't know how many of those are Hamas. How many of those are civilians, keep in mind. Obviously, there are a lot of civilians that have died. I've watched videos of this.
Starting point is 00:19:29 I have watched kids with their... And by the way, guys, if you have kids, probably shouldn't listen to this part or maybe any of this, actually. But I have seen kids with stuff blown off of them, their heads, their, you name it. It's pretty disgusting. It's pretty barbaric. And I go back to, like, when do you start caring about civilian?
Starting point is 00:19:47 lives and when, you know, is there another way they could have done this? You know, why would we not go in? And obviously, look, there was also reports that there were bombings at first that it looked and appeared to be Hamas actually bomb in certain regions of Gaza because of the IDF that was coming in. They were trying to hit, obviously, the IDF, trying to stop them from their invasion. and then it seemed like to me that the IDF kind of pulled back a little bit, and that's when they just went with the plan, hey, let's just bomb the shit out of everything, because instead of losing so many of our soldiers,
Starting point is 00:20:25 we're just going to basically take out Hamas, quote unquote, through airstrikes. And there was a video in particular that I watched to where it says, imagine if you lived here and you had to go through this every day now. And it showed these kids that were sitting on this little rumble or rubble hill. and as they're sitting there, there's like missiles coming in within 100 yards of them and they're running, fleeing.
Starting point is 00:20:49 I mean, they're like, I don't want to use that word, but it's just like, it's like if you are on a big ant hill and you step on it and it's just all the ants are scrambling to get away from you the best way they can to survive, this is what it looks like there. And, you know, it's not good. There's even been videos, let's just be real, of civilians that was getting,
Starting point is 00:21:12 humanitarian aid drops and they were getting shot. These are videos of this and according to mainstream media anyway, I think it was potentially IDF that may have done this. So it's just there's no easy answer to this. We'll talk more about this. I want to get into a couple of clips after Sherry gets into what you want to say. Well, I just wanted to ask too, you know, we are seeing all these graphic videos of the war between Hamas and Israel and the civilians are getting.
Starting point is 00:21:42 eaten alive pretty much. We're seeing all these videos with these civilians that are being killed and they're very, very graphic and horrific. And I don't want to see anyone killed from either side. I hate war. But why are we not seeing graphic videos around the world of people being destroyed
Starting point is 00:22:00 and killed all over the place? Why is it focused on these civilians? Why aren't we focusing on other places around the world? For example, in Africa, You know, there's... I've seen some of those videos. There's tons of people being killed over there, but it's not being portrayed the same way, I guess. No.
Starting point is 00:22:18 And my question is why? Well, no, in Africa, I mean, there's entire villages of Christians. African Christians that, you know, there's, you know, sometimes in some cases, two, three, four hundred people in these villages. And they're apparently, the groups that come in and kill these Christians are supposedly Muslims or radicalized Islamist or whatever they call. them, right? Even though they're black as well. Well, I mean, I've seen videos on X about it. You'll see it one time of how horrific it is.
Starting point is 00:22:48 I mean, they just slaughter these people. Then you never hear about it. You'll never hear about on mainstream media. You'll never hear about it, you know, on anything else. You'll see these videos everyone. So no one cares. No one cares about that. No one cares about that because, let's just be honest, in my opinion, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:05 obviously there is a big push to keep Jewish people safe with anti-Semitism. and there's always kind of been that way, especially since the Holocaust, for good reason. We should never have a dictator or a person in any way, shape, or form commit genocide on any group of people based on anything, right, based on religion, color, any of that. And that's essentially what Hitler did is he genocided, tried to genocide and eradicate all the Jewish people. Communists. Yeah, and communists. He hated both of them. But the reality, too, is that there's a lot of people saying that now Benjamin Netanyahu is a genocidal dictator.
Starting point is 00:23:39 A lot of people look at this as you're trying to wipe out an entire population of people. And to be honest with you, when I hear some people out there that, you know, I'll hear their opinions, maybe they're Christians, maybe they're. And by the way, a lot of these are Republican people that I'll see that if you get their opinions on this, a lot of these people do not give a damn about anybody in Gaza or Palestine that's dying whatsoever. They just do not care. It's like it's like it does not exist, right?
Starting point is 00:24:07 And the reality is, is that's not true. And it's just like the people in Afghanistan. It's just like people in Iraq. You know what I mean? Civilians were killed because of our wars in those wars. These are people that, by the way, oftentimes ISIS, which also is a terrorist group, according to the United States government, which also we just so happen to basically create an arm. But, you know, a lot of these people were under the brutal dictatorship of the ISIS K and ISIS leadership.
Starting point is 00:24:35 And many times ISIS have come through, kill those people, whatever. But at the same time, we killed a lot of the innocent civilians in our war to fight ISIS. And no one gave a crap about that because all it ever was was we just labeled them, what, ragheads or whatever you want to call. I mean, that's what we label them. Yeah, you're right. And, you know, I don't see protests with any other kind of wars. Now, we've seen protests in the past, like the Vietnam War. You know, we've seen some protests.
Starting point is 00:25:03 But this one is especially huge with, you know, the whole Gaza and the. you know, the college campuses being overthrown by protesters that are mainly people don't even go to that school. Now, a lot of them do. They belong at that school. And they're causing, you know, I guess they're indoctrinating our college students. Yeah. Well, I mean, but you also have to understand that it's become more of an anti-American movement than it is a pro-Palestanian movement. And now it's just straight up in a lot of cases, a pro-Hamas movement.
Starting point is 00:25:34 They literally have the Hamas headbands on. And they're waving Hamas flags and all this stuff. And this is obviously a very bad thing. And I think a lot of these people, too, are not even from our country. No, I mean, some of them are not. They all look kind of Arab descent, a lot of them. Yeah. Now, I think a lot of them are American, but a lot of them are not.
Starting point is 00:25:53 And I feel like some of the Americans are being led by the non-Americans from this movement. But to me, if you are a true patriot of America, then you should not be protesting this at all. and you don't belong in our country. Yeah. And this is, by the way, not just happening in the United States. There are a lot of, there's a lot of this happening at London University. There was a recent reporter that went to London University that just wanted to ask some questions about what their beliefs were about Palestine and all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Many of these people had Hamas gear or garb. And this reporter, American reporter, was basically surrounded by these four or five look like Arabic, you know, Muslim men. And they were all threatening to shank him and stab him in the neck, they said. I mean, just there, these people in particular were very violent. They did not want to answer any questions because they don't give a shit about whatever. They're just trying to overthrow democracies and a normal sea. And they hate the countries that are going to.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Many times when you have all these, all these people from around the world in various places that hate UK, they hate NATO, they hate the United States. And yet this is where someone is moving all of them, right? And there's a reason for this because they know that it's going to be hard to get a civil war between Americans, you know, just because it's Democrat versus public. And that's a little harder. But what if we implant people that really do hate America? Right. Then maybe we can start the civil war process a little faster. And when they say CDC, that doesn't mean just killing off Jews.
Starting point is 00:27:23 That means they hate America as well. And these are the people that are protesting around our country. I don't feel like these people should even belong in our country and they need to leave. Yeah. That's just my personal opinion. Well, I want to play a clip here. This is General Mike Flynn. He specifically talks briefly about the fact that Israel knew about October 7th.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Let me let you guys hear what he had to say. This thing is getting really bad. And it's because it was a decision made to have a security stand down on the 7th of October for seven hours on the southern zone of Israel up again. against the fence line of Gaza Strip. And I'm telling you, folks, that wasn't done out of happenstance. That's not a coincidence. Somebody made that decision. Don't know whether it's Netanyahu that made it,
Starting point is 00:28:10 the Southern Zone commander who made it. Somebody made it because there's no way in the world for the security breakdown that the Israelis had on that day. And that's General Mike Flynn. Obviously, Mike Flynn has been involved in a lot of stuff militarily, right? I mean, he was a big-time general, I believe, under Trump. and he's, I mean, he's spent most of his life in the military. So he obviously knows something broke down.
Starting point is 00:28:34 And I'm sure that Mike Flynn probably had many engagements with Israeli Mossad and an IDF. I mean, if you are a general in the military, you're going to have communications, talks, security briefs, you name it. You know how this system works. And he did. I want to play quickly also, Candice Owens. She had a clip that she talked about very similarly, but I want you to hear the whole clip. It's about three minutes. about the IDF and Israel knowing in particular about October 7th ahead of time.
Starting point is 00:29:04 And there's a reason that I'm playing Candace Owens. We'll get to that in a minute. But here you go. Now, speaking of America being slow walked into World War III, obviously I raised this with peers last week. But it does seem that our media is obsessed with pressing this finger on what is going on in Israel, despite the fact that Christians are being murdered all across the world. And Israel is supplying the arms for Christians to be murdered in our main. They don't talk about it. It's just a topic they don't want to talk about. What is the reason for that insistence? I think it's because, yeah, they're going whether you want to or not, we are planning another war. And this article popped up in the Jerusalem Post yesterday. It says the IDF knew of Hamas's plans to kidnap 250 people before the October 7th attack. Okay, well, that should make everybody uncomfortable. I will read what they wrote verbatim in the Jerusalem Post. It reads a newly surfaced.
Starting point is 00:29:58 document has revealed that the Israeli defense forces and intelligence systems had detailed knowledge of Hamas's plan to raid Israel and kidnapped 250 people weeks before the October 7th massacre. The document, which was compiled in the Gaza Division, outlined Hamas' intentions and was known to top intelligence officials according to a report by Canon News. The document titled detailed end-to-end raid training was distributed on September 19, 2023, and described in detail the series of exercises conducted by Hamas' elite units. I'm going to pause right there and say that I recall when Charlie Kirk had raised this question, and he obviously is remarkably per Israel, about whether or not they had this intel and allowed this attack to go on for other reasons,
Starting point is 00:30:51 they suddenly called him an anti-Semite. When he said, listen, I've been to Israel, I've also been to Israel. It's the size of New Jersey. There's a military presence every five feet. And yet this attack went on for two hours. Then we shortly learned thereafter that Egypt said that they had also informed Israel that there was an attack that was going to take place. And they ignored that.
Starting point is 00:31:13 This makes me uncomfortable. This makes me uncomfortable because it doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense that they would ignore. all of this, that they would have this intel dating back to September and that they would choose to ignore all of this. It doesn't make sense when you recognize the conversation that is being had right now, which seems to be like they've already decided on World War III and we're all getting drafted into it. And it doesn't make sense when you see the amount of censorship and the attacks that are happening to any person that stands up against it. So let me be clear on where I stand on
Starting point is 00:31:46 this. Not a single American should be sent overseas. to die for Israel. Period. Point blank, do not care what you want to call me. No more Christian blood should be shed overseas. Okay. When we can't even ask questions about this, the Jerusalem Post and talk about it, but if we talk questions about it, then Americans are smeared and liable and threatened to lose their jobs. If I can't even talk about a nation that I'm going to work for because they're taking our tax dollars, no, I'm sorry. I am just way off of this wagon. I want nothing to do with American troops should not be involved in any overseas conflicts, but least of all an overseas conflict that were not even allowed to critique.
Starting point is 00:32:28 So there you go. That's what Candace Owens had to say. I want to start, by the way, first with Charlie Kirk and what she said about him. Obviously, Charlie Kirk raised this question. I believe this was prior, just like we did. We raised the question about, did Israel know? We talked about this when the war first started. And the reason why we talked about this is we had a guy that works in the United States,
Starting point is 00:32:48 government, we'll put it that way, that came on our podcast to talk about the Israel-Palestine conflict and, you know, how he outlined in detailed how advanced Mossad is and how good they are and how almost impossible it would have been to not know about this. Although he's very pro-Israel, right? And to be honest, there's a lot of people in our government and military that are very pro-Israel for a reason. We'll get to that in just a bit. But Charlie Kirk raising the question about that and then being labeled basically,
Starting point is 00:33:18 anti-Semite is nuts because you know charlie kirk is over turning point USA for example nick flintez and a few others showed up at turning point USA the other they weren't there to protest they don't do that um they were just there to attend uh turn in point USA they were denied entry um because of the fact that um you know nick fintes is critical of israel and more particularly he's critical of how much involvement israel actually has over our united states government in politics. And so Charlie Kirk is essentially over Turning Point USA and did not allow this person or anybody that had that viewpoint into turning point.
Starting point is 00:33:58 So even Charlie Kirk, as pro-Israel as he is, got labeled anti-Semite because he even questioned that in the beginning. But yet, the Jerusalem Post can actually post this based on a leaked document. And they're okay doing that. But if you're American, you're anti-Semite if you even question it. Jerry, did you have something? Sorry, I was looking at your. notes.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Yeah, I really can't say any, there is no argument against that. I totally agree he shouldn't be called that. And again, I think that's the government hiding behind religion. And that's just a big no-no to me. I don't think government should use a religion as saying, you can't say anything about us because we're Jews. That's BS. So, yeah, so there's no disagreement as far as what you just said.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Now, I do have questions about the 250 hostages that they took. How did they know how many hostages they were taking when they were all over? They weren't just at this music festival, but they were going into the little cities in the towns and taking people right. And I just remember the day that it happened, October 7th, at the musical festival, those guys were parachuting down. And they weren't not even in Army clothes. Some of them were not. But a lot of them had headbands. Yeah, but I think a lot of them were civilians of Gaza Strip as well.
Starting point is 00:35:21 And it was, what I'm saying, they didn't really look very technically advanced as far as like having walkie-talkies or, you know, all these specialized equipment that Army people have. How did they communicate with each other to say, okay, I've got 10 people here, I got five people a year. Oh, we got 17 over here. How did they know how many hostages they got? because it specifically says in the article. The leak, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Yeah, the leak that they were going to get between 200 and 250 hostages. And that's what they came up with. About 230 or 240 is somewhere on there. I'm just wondering, because it didn't seem like they were as advanced as they should be. How did they even keep up with how many hostages they had? You know, Hamas, people think of them as like a guerrilla warfare type unit, but we know that they are heavily funded. I mean, I'm talking about close to a billion dollar funding. specifically from Iran and other nations around, you know, Gaza.
Starting point is 00:36:21 So, yeah, I mean, I don't know. How would they have known exact numbers and how to get this many and all that stuff? It's also very strange to me how so much of the attack was videoed. I know that's not necessarily, you know, out of ordinary. I mean, if you think about ISIS, think about how many videos we've had of people being beheaded or burnt alive or whatever the case is. So it's not necessarily that crazy that they actually had videos of the attack. Look, the reality is if you have seven hours to do whatever to hell you want to do against a predominantly unarmed people in that area,
Starting point is 00:36:56 plus you got to think about, you know, the people that were at the music festival. You know, I don't know if raves over there are the same, but in the United States, there's usually a lot of high kids that are just kind of vibe in and they're just kind of out there and listening to music. They probably didn't have any idea. It was all a big surprise. They had no idea what was about to come. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:17 And I think there was about 350 people from the music festival that were killed. And how many total, 1,200? 1,200, yeah. So quite a bit came from the music festival. Yeah, I mean, and also there are reports, and I need to know this for sure. If someone wants to write in, but I've heard many people in reports. I don't know about potentially this music festival was moved closer to the border, closer. I mean, I think it was planned somewhere like two or three miles in.
Starting point is 00:37:45 And then all of the sudden, I guess it was moved closer to the border for some reason. Could be a coincidence. I don't know if that's even 100% true. You guys find that out. Do a little dig in there. If it was moved, then it's not a coincidence. It was done on purpose for sure. And I wanted to point out one more thing about Candace Owens saying that we're being forced into World War III.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Yeah. That Americans should not go and shed blood for anyone else because we're being forced into World War III. I totally disagree because even if it was Israel putting money in pockets, people are putting the money in the pockets of the politicians, and the politicians are the ones starting these wars. World World War III is a proxy between Russia and United States right now. So that's complete BS. Yeah, but you know, at what point are we going to become or are we already proxy into a Middle East war as well, right, between Iran even, potentially? Exactly. And so when we talk about World War, well, you got Ukraine, Russia, and you got now Israel fighting Gaza, which may bring in Hezbollah.
Starting point is 00:38:48 And probably China and Taiwan. Yeah. Because you also have to understand Iran has a lot of friends, right? I believe that even Russia in some ways are kind of behind them. China is as well. So this is at a cusp of World War III. It is a reality. I mean, think about Taiwan. China wants to invade Taiwan. Mainly, it seems like maybe because of the relationship between Taiwan and the United States. So obviously you sit there in a thing, very similar things about Ukraine. We know the United States has a very close relationship with Taiwan, and China probably does not like that, especially considering they're right there. So are they in the right or is the United States? Who knows? But we're not being forced into a war. I think if anything, we're making the war. We're the ones starting the war.
Starting point is 00:39:32 We're not being forced. We're not sending our people over to die because they're forcing us into a war. I think America is starting the war. Well, America, but also who knows exactly what the deal was. It goes back to the question, why did Israel allow this to happen if that's true? Why did they allow that to happen on October 7th? And again, there was obviously a reason. Why did Hamas do it?
Starting point is 00:39:54 What was the benefit for them? So this is also reported, did stock traders know? So unusual trading activity detected ahead of October 7th attack. A new report reveals a significant surge in transactions on the New York and Tel Aviv stock exchanges. a week before the Hamas attack. On October 2nd, sorry, approximately a quarter of a million transactions were starkly contrasting to the usual daily volume of a few thousand transactions. The research highlights an unusual spike in short-selling of Israeli security just before
Starting point is 00:40:27 the attack suggesting for knowledge, state university law professor Robert Jackson and Joshua Mitz says the Israeli securities authority is actively investigating themselves, is basically what this says, on these claims. What does that remind you of? Well, you may not know, but this is what happened back. This actually was a report from ABC News. This was, I believe, a week after September 11th happened. And I want to hear you, or hear you, I want to play you what ABC News reported in a special report about a week after September 11th.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Check this out. Federal officials have begun a major investigation into whether someone or many people benefited financially from the evil done of the country last Tuesday. Not long before the attacks occurred, there were some financial transactions in the stock market that may indicate knowledge of the attack before it began. ABC's Antonio Mora is here. Whether they ever get to, if they ever get to the bottom of it, it will be astonishing. Astonishing, no question, Peter. What many Wall Street analysts believe is that the terrorists made bets that a number of stocks would see their prices fall. They did so by buying what
Starting point is 00:41:37 are called puts. If you bet right, the rewards can be. be huge. The risks are also huge, unless, of course, you know something bad is going to happen to the company you're betting against. This could very well be insider trading at the worst, most horrific, most evil use you've ever seen in your entire life. One example, United Airlines. The Thursday, before the attack, more than 2,000 contracts betting that the stock would go down were purchased, 90 times more in one day than in three weeks. When the markets reopened, United Stock dropped. The price of the contracts soared,
Starting point is 00:42:19 and someone may have made a lot of money fast. $180,000 turns into $2.4 million when that plane hits the World Trade Center. It's almost the same story with American Airlines. That's a five-fold increase in the value of what was a $337,000 trade on Monday. a sudden becomes what? $1.8 million. And there's much more, including an extraordinarily high number of bets against Morgan Stanley and Martian McLennan, two of the World Trade Center's biggest tenants.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Could this be a coincidence? This would be one of the most extraordinary coincidences in the history of mankind if it was a coincidence. It is absolutely unprecedented to see cases of insider trading covering the entire world, from Japan to the United States and North America to Europe. ABC News has now learned that the Chicago Board of Options Exchange launched their investigation into the unusual trading last week that may have given them enough time to stop anyone from profiting from death here in the U.S. It may also give investigators, Peter, a hot trail that might lead them to the terrorists.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Thanks very much. As a reminder of the complications here, though, the Secretary of the Treasury said today of this investigation, you've got to go through 10 veils before you get to the real source. Yep, and see, this is when the news actually used to try to get to, to the bottom of something. Investigative journalists, although guess what probably happened after that report? Shut the hell up. And if you ever talk about that again, it's over for you, right?
Starting point is 00:43:45 Well, I think that's when the table started really changing for Americans as far as what to say on media and what not to say. Just to kind of explain this, a put or a put option or a short sell is essentially where you take a lease out or a loan, I guess is kind of how this works. And you bet against the company, right? Because you think that. The stock will fall. But the longer you have this short selling option out there, the more interest that your basic loan incurs. So that's why you got to kind of be timely in it when you do it. And guys, this is not terrorists that was doing this shit.
Starting point is 00:44:20 You got to have inside information as well. Yeah. To know, does short it? Yeah. And the thing about it is, is we've talked about 9-11 a little bit here and there. We've not ever done a full episode on it. You know, I know that the potential FBI involvement with handlers of some of these terrorists that hit the World Trade Center, whoever knew about this was big time people probably in the stock market that had connections with the government that kind of knew this was going to happen. I don't think this was random terrorists in ISIS that was doing this short selling crap because that's just, that's not how it works.
Starting point is 00:44:53 And if anybody's paid attention to the stock market, especially since GameStop, the amount of influence that people actually don't have and the amount of control they actually don't have over the stock market. market should tell you everything you need to know. Yeah, that was my question totally. Who was profiting from death? Was it the people in the government? Was it politicians? Because that's where the finger and needs to point to as far as where all the wars are coming from.
Starting point is 00:45:15 The people who profit after this are off of this are the people responsible for the deaths. Well, and also, you got to think that they even short-sold Morgan Stanley and the other company, which was the two biggest holders of the World Trade Center, right? And it's, so, I mean, obviously everyone knew, a lot of people apparently knew the exact plan of what was going to happen that day, coordinated in advance. And by the way, what does this remind me of? Well, if you guys have not heard our Las Vegas shooting episode, they were short selling things before the shooting as well. So someone knew about that beforehand. Also, and we're talking about up to six months to a year before that happened, things were being put in place. CEOs were resigning. And they were short selling markets. They were making shit tons of money. And once that happened, guess what? They made a shit ton of money. And whoever made a shit ton of money off of the Israel crisis, that's who we should be pointing fingers to. And those are the people that are corrupt. Yeah. Well, it's like they said, I guess they're going to investigate themselves. So, you know, we should have a thorough and
Starting point is 00:46:16 fair answer of whatever that is. But who do you think it is? Do you think, I mean, my mind leads to corrupt government. And those people are profiting. Yeah. Of people's deaths. Well, you got to remember that like, even for For example, the Securities Exchange Commission, which is the SEC, which is the governing body of stock market, you know, basically, they're the ones that protect the big guys. They're the ones that protect the hedge funds, and they're the ones that ensure the hedge funds never lose. And the government always wins and the hedge funds always win. And you always typically lose. Stock market, unfortunately, in this day and age, is like gambling because you don't really control the market.
Starting point is 00:46:57 And no matter how much money and a massive amount of people put in, whether or not the price goes up or down is predominantly not has nothing to do with the actual market that is putting in or taking out the money. And that's something I learned through GameStop. And more specifically, I learned that through Ian Carroll because he's kind of talks about how the whole thing works. Well, and too, the hedge fund companies, you know, they actually stopped people from buying and selling during the first, you know, GameStop explosion when they were going to the moon. or whatever, they actually made them stop the cells because they were losing their butts. And these were the major corporations. This was not individuals, but it's because individuals got together and say, hey, we're going to do this and we're going to build up game stock.
Starting point is 00:47:42 And the hedge funds are like, we've never dealt with this before. What the heck? We're losing all of our clients' money because this is our job. This is what we do. And individuals are not allowed to do this. Yeah. And they even went after them as far as trying to. go after them criminally, talking about the kitty guy.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Yeah, Roaring Kitty and all that. But you also have to remember that, you know, what the hedge funds were doing was essentially short selling. There were shorting GameStop. And they might have been doing some other backhanded stuff to make GameStop basically go out of business. And then at the same time, also, they were going to make a shit ton of money on this. And then when a large group of people came and basically were destroying their short sales,
Starting point is 00:48:24 this is when people got mad. I want to talk about APEC. Right. APAC is very important. What is APAC? Well, APAC is the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. It is essentially a lobbying group that advocates pro-Israel policies to the legislative and executive branches of the United States. It's one of the most influential lobbying groups in the nation with a wide reach and significant financial backing. APAC has been involved in several controversies and criticisms over the years. Critics argued that it has too much influence over American policy in the Middle East, with some accusing it, of pushing for allegiance to a foreign country, it has also been accused of interfering in American politics by supporting candidates who align with its interest only. There has been a growing divide within the Democratic Party regarding support of Israel, with some progressive Democrats expressing criticism of Israel's policies towards Palestinians and supporting the boycott sanctions
Starting point is 00:49:16 and divest BDS movement. This has led to tensions between APAC and some members of the Democratic Party. Additionally, APAC has been criticized for a support of Republican congressional candidate. who refused to certify the 2020 presidential election. This has led to accusations of undermining democracy and supporting candidates who do not respect the will of the people. Overall, while APAC has played a significant role in shaping American policy towards Israel, it has also been the subject of controversy and criticism
Starting point is 00:49:44 for its perceived influence and political activities. Now, Sherry, now we're just having this conversation. We had to pause just for a second because I had to make sure that we had a couple things down. You know, Sherry, your point is, right, that this is not the only PAC, though, obviously, you know, they influences elections or politicians. And that is correct, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:50:04 I totally agree. I think that it has a huge influence as far as Israel, that A-PAC, has a huge influence. It's from Israel. Israel wants politicians that align with Israel and protect Israel. And I totally agree with that. But what I was just saying, let's be fair and say there's other PACs, too, that put money in politicians. pockets to make sure they're funding what they want to fund and doing what they want them to do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:33 I mean, for example, presidents, right? I mean, most presidents are funded by people that want them to do what they want them to do. Right. Which is why, you know, you may vote for a president. But if they are controlled by the money, then obviously whatever that president, whatever you think you're electing that president for is not necessarily going to align with what you want them to do for your country because it's going to more so align with whatever the biggest donors are that are provided.
Starting point is 00:50:57 the money to them, that's what they're going to have to do because they're going to have to do it. If they don't do what these big money funders want them to do, then they don't run for president. They don't have the money to beat out whoever their opponent is. And therefore, they're not going to be on the ballot come, you know, November. And that's the problem. And I also think that's why a lot of, I think that's why, you know, Trump didn't take really a lot of money the first go around. How much money will you take this time? We don't know.
Starting point is 00:51:24 But yeah. And that's what I was going to say. that's why I really liked Donald Trump in 2016 is because he basically funded his own campaign. He didn't have to answer to anyone or any PAC. He was going based on what he believed was best for Americans. And that's why I believe in the MAGA movement because he does want to make America great. He doesn't care about other countries. Maybe. I mean, I think he is an alliance with Israel.
Starting point is 00:51:49 And, you know, he has a good reputation with Putin and even the Chinese guy. I always forget his name. But he has great business relationships with these people, and he keeps them under his whatever he wants them to do for us. And that's why I really, really, you know, thought that Trump did a fabulous job when he was a president. Yeah, he does, he does stupid things and makes, you know, dumb Twitter posts or whatever that people don't like. But getting past the way he is and being abrupt like he is and saying what's on his mind. He did fabulous things for America. Yeah, I mean, and, you know, the jury's still out.
Starting point is 00:52:29 You know, how much money will he take this go around, right? There's already people starting to criticize him because I guess he took $2 million from some pro-Israel woman. Don't know exactly who she is, but she gave, I guess she donated $2 million. She donated that in agreement that, you know, he would make sure that Israel is always going to continue to be a top priority for the United States. and so obviously people are starting to worry about that as well. But Trump kept Israel as a top priority without anyone giving him money. So he didn't have to take anyone's money to want to help Israel and to protect Israel. That's part of what he is and what he's about.
Starting point is 00:53:09 Yeah. Now, although APEC is not necessarily the biggest, right, in terms of budget, right? AAC is considered one of the most powerful lobbying groups in Washington. And as we said, it's not the biggest in terms of budget. the U.S. Chamber of Commerce is the biggest spender on lobbying, with a total of 82.1 million spent in 2021. But while it's worth noting that lobbying expenditures do not necessarily equate to political influence, A PAC is widely considered one of the most powerful lobbying groups in Washington, due to its ability to mobilize a large and active grassroots network of supporters,
Starting point is 00:53:41 its effectiveness and influence in the legislative process, and its role in shaping the discourse on U.S. Israel relations. So it does not mention any other countries while significant packs in the United States. But for sure, Israel is the largest and most powerful pack of a foreign nation. And listen, that's when it becomes an issue. When you have a foreign nation that is spending so much money on influence of legislative processes or politicians, that's when people that are specifically America first do not like that, right? For a good reason, wouldn't you say?
Starting point is 00:54:15 I would say to an extent, and I guess I get what they're saying, but Israel's not giving money to say that we own America and America is going to do exactly what we want. Israel gave them money because they want to keep that allegiance with America. You know, just like America should want to keep the allegiance with Israel. They're one of our biggest allies. Yeah. Why would we not want to keep allegiance with them? Yeah. I mean, you're right.
Starting point is 00:54:41 I mean, it's just, and for sure, Israel has definitely always been an ally. I've never ever once said that, oh, we should abandon Israel, right? That's just never been my thought process, especially, you know, growing up and and kind of seeing the way the world I used to see it. But obviously, when you start having situations like what's going on in the Middle East right now, and it seems like at the very least that the United States basically has no influence on whatever Israel is doing right now with Benjamin Netanyahu. It kind of seems like he's doing his own thing.
Starting point is 00:55:09 I mean, there's probably a reason why Benjamin Netanyahu's war cabinet just abruptly quit at least a lot of them did. I don't know what exactly the reason they quit his war cabinet was, but it seems like that they were not agreeing with a lot of things that was going on. You know, keeping in mind, too, Benjamin Netanyahu has been in office forever. I mean, he has literally been in office forever. And so if you start talking about like dictatorship or stuff like that, is he a dictator? That's another question. But more specifically, you know, he was just about to be ousted right before this war happened.
Starting point is 00:55:42 many people speculate. Did he allow this to happen because he knew that he would be able to basically maintain office and stay in office throughout the war process? Although even in the United States specifically, it doesn't 100% say that, say, for example, the United States goes to war, does that automatically mean Biden or his administration could stay in office? The media wants to tell you, no, that's not what that means. Another president would come in. But yes, I believe they can suspend elections if you're in a wartime scenario. You know, it was something that Tucker Carlson said a while back about the United States. And he said, you know, I don't know that Democrats are going to leave office in 2024. And I don't know exactly how they'll do it, but it could be war. It could be something, but something's going to happen to where they're going to just basically say, well, we're not going to leave office because of this or because of that.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Very similarly to COVID when they didn't think necessarily that your constitutional rights were that important anymore because there was a sickness out there. Well, they did have a transfer of power during COVID. from Trump to Biden. But let me ask you a question. I know this is about Israel, but where is all of our money going to as far as war is concerned? The majority of our money. We're talking about it to Israel? No.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Where is any wars in the world? Where is the majority of the money going to? Well, that's just the thing. I mean, it's kind of like, you know, who really knows, right? I mean... You don't think that the majority is going to Ukraine? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:57:07 The majority of the money that our taxpayer dollars is going to is towards... Ukraine. For sure. Because that's where Biden's back pocket is. That's where Biden has all of his money. And he's going to protect where his money is and Hunter's money. Yeah, no, you're 100% right. I mean, the amount of billions we have given Ukraine. And all of that is not showing up on the battlefield. There are numerous reports about that, right, whether where potentially money has been laundered, the sell of weapons on the black market. I mean, who knows what what terrorist groups around the world might actually have weapons that we have been sending to Ukraine. I mean, this is a, this is a, there's been many league documents about how many of our weapons we have sent or bought for Ukraine are now in and up on the black market for
Starting point is 00:57:52 anyone to buy, especially terrorist groups. And now they're using our weapons to actually bomb within Russia, which was, that's a big no-no, because that's definitely a proxy war between Russia and United States. And that's us pretty much putting bombs in Russia. Yeah. Yeah. And as we talk about World War III, which we won't get too much in a detail on tonight's episode. But, you know, more specifically, you know, you have Putin that is now meeting with North Korean Kim Jong-un. He also spent some time. Where else did he go? He went to some other country. He's basically lobbying support right now from all of America's enemies, you know, just the other day as the ships were leaving Cuba, they basically taunted the United States again for a day or two. You know,
Starting point is 00:58:37 this is obviously moving towards a big provocation, a big, big war time scenario. And, you know, obviously the Middle East conflict does not help. You have Hezbollah, which is definitely one of the biggest groups that Iran funds. They are much larger than Hamas. They are much larger than the Houthis. And you got Hezbollah and Israel on the cusp of all-out war with each other. And how much and will that draw in Iran to the situation in the Middle East? it also depends. What does Israel do from here? Because those are the big question. Does Israel
Starting point is 00:59:12 invade Lebanon? Does Israel invade other countries that maybe Iran or some of these bigger countries have more vested interest in? And then what happens when Israel goes direct war potentially with Iran, right? Because this is something that is very possible. And if that is the case, look, there's a reason, I'm telling you guys, whether it be Russia and Ukraine, whether it be something that happens in the Middle East with Israel, the fact that we just passed, a, instead of people having to go and register for selective service to basically be called up in a draft, now they automatically are registering people that are 18 years. I think it's 18 to 26.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Not just males. Not just men. It's women, too. And so that's Biden. You better get your women ready for war. But let's just say that a war does erupt between Israel and Iran. Is America going to turn their back on Israel? No.
Starting point is 01:00:03 As our alliance? No, we'll be an award with them. But I don't think at all that we need to send one soldier over there. I mean, I know that sucks. But, you know, I just, I don't see our soldiers dying for a Middle East war. I don't see our soldiers dying for Ukraine or the Russia war either. During our fights with Afghanistan and in Iraq and Iran, all those places, did. I'm sure we had soldiers from Israel.
Starting point is 01:00:29 Probably. I mean, I know we had them in UK. You know, we had British soldiers. We had a lot of soldiers, Canadian soldiers. We had all of those, right? NATO. I don't know about Israel. I would assume that there was probably Israeli soldiers, but I'm not positive about that. I would have to look into that. But I do know, obviously, the NATO countries were there more specifically. But I don't know. I don't necessarily recall or remember Israeli soldiers ever being there. I mean, just from like, you know, videos or just knowledge I had of the wars at the time. Talking about APEC, because we can only say so much about it. We basically said what it is. Carol has a piece on A-PAC, and I wanted to play this clip. And it's about a three- or four-minute clip, but it really specifically outlines A-PAC as basically, you know, they wanted, I think it was JFK, that was really pushing A-PAC to register as basically
Starting point is 01:01:19 a foreign agent or a foreign nation back in the 60s. And because of how much influence and power this, this pack had even back then, and so I want to play this because I think Ian can better explain this. I wondered how we got to this point, where one of the biggest, lobbying groups in America can openly brag that they are representing a foreign country. This is from Apex website, but somehow they don't have to register under the FARA Act as someone acting on behalf of a foreign actor. They literally brag about how many millions they spent and about how 98% of their buying of our politicians was successful this election cycle. Did you know that
Starting point is 01:02:00 they were actually this close to having to register as a foreign agent before a certain certain thing happened. You know, I'll show you, and I'll show you where you can find all these primary resources, too. So if you go to this URL right here, Israelobie.org slash AZC, DOJ, it's a history of when APAC almost had to register as a foreign agent. And back then, they were known as the American Zionist Council. Right there, the American Zionist Council?
Starting point is 01:02:30 Well, it turns out that President John F. Kennedy was about to force them to register, under FAR. And this is a history of all of the original documents that pertain to the legal case. And when you click on any of these links, it'll take you to original archived sources of the actual documents from the actual testimonies that you can read. Even cool little snippets like this that say federal lawyers are near decision on whether to require the AZC to register as an agent of the Israeli government. And back in June and July of 1963, the federal government was nearing a decision requiring the American Zionist Council registering as an agent of the Israeli government. Americans of whatever faith believe firmly that America is their country and America alone.
Starting point is 01:03:24 The Zionist lawyer, Mr. Lenvin, advised that public registration would be injurious to the American Zionist Council. You might notice that the Honorable Donald Rumsfeld was involved, and as 1963 went on, it all heated up. And by October of 1963, they were saying things like forms are enclosed for the use of the American Zionist Council in registering under the Foreign Agents Registration Act. But then what happened in November of 1963? the president who was spearheading the whole thing just suddenly wasn't there anymore. And to be clear, I would never infer that Israel had anything to do with that whole thing. I'm just saying it was really convenient timing that it happened to turn out that way.
Starting point is 01:04:24 And then in December of 1963, we get this document. As you know, our client is not prepared to register as an agent of foreign principle or to concede that it is subject to the registration requirement. December 11th, 1963. And to this day, the single most influential big money group in Democratic electoral politics is not registered as a foreign actor. Although the U.S. Justice Department clearly states that FARA requires the registration of anyone that represents the interests of the foreign principle before any agency or official of the U.S. government. All the rest of that also applies. That's just the most obvious statement.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Because if they were registered under FARA, they would have to disclose where all the money's coming from. And they don't want to. So they just don't. And that's how we wind up with screens like this. And with APEC openly bragging on the internet about how they pay to get candidates to win, despite their policies being clearly unpopular with regular people in America.
Starting point is 01:05:43 And that's why it's so important that we stop China from subverting our democracy by controlling what we see on our social media apps. You feel me? And he was talking specifically about TikTok. Let's ban TikTok. Got to ban TikTok. You know, because TikTok is influencing our people because of the apps. Right. And we cannot allow a foreign nation to do that, right? Well, I thought that they wanted to ban TikTok because they have all of our information.
Starting point is 01:06:14 Yeah, well. But they already have our information. Yeah. I mean, come on, man. Like the amount of stuff that we, we interact with China on a daily basis on in some way, shape, or form, I mean, is absurd. But Ian did go into, as far as APEC was concerned, about their policies that most Americans don't like their policies. Well, I don't know what policies he's talking about. Well, it's kind of interesting, right? Because what did you tell me earlier?
Starting point is 01:06:43 Who does APAC mostly influence candidates for? Is it Democrats? Yeah. Okay, well, there you go. That's probably what they're talking about. You know, I don't know everything the APAC does specifically as far as, you know, who are they really going after? what are these people's, you know, what are these people's, I guess, platforms? Like, what are they actually going after?
Starting point is 01:07:07 And what is APAC really trying to influence in the United States by putting these politicians in place? I do find it interesting at the very least that if APAC specifically goes after more Democrats than Republicans, that's strange, right? I mean, that is pretty strange to me. Not saying anything. But irregardless to that, if you are a foreign nation, right? and you have a huge, powerful lobbying group like this.
Starting point is 01:07:32 It doesn't matter if you are a freaking ally to us or not. If you're influencing politicians in the United States as a foreign agent or a foreign lobbying group that is directly tied to the Israeli government, then yes, you should 100% be registered as a foreign actor under the FAR Act, just like he talked about. And you do this for reasons, obviously, because the United States was built under the United States Constitution by the people. for the people. And we follow strict rules as far as our Constitution and what our rights are under the United States Constitution. Also, our electoral and democratic processes, right? We're a constitutional republic. We're supposed to put the people in office that the people want to be put into office to represent our beliefs and our values and the things that matter to us in our country, right? And so when you have a foreign PAC like this that comes in and heavily influences
Starting point is 01:08:26 as politicians, obviously that's why you want to make sure that packs like that register, right? Okay. Let me ask you a question. You said that we vote for the people by the people. That's the way that's the way we're built, right? We're supposed to. We're supposed to be voting on people. And whoever we vote for should be in there. But do you think that's really happening? And do you think all other monies that are given to other politicians are out there in front? Or are they hidden monies? I don't know. Do you think George Soros registers as a foreign whatever?
Starting point is 01:08:59 No, absolutely not. Is he foreign? Does he live in America? Well, he does. Does he fund most of our government pop people? Well, he doesn't. Democrats that he's putting in DAs and judges that are worthless, corrupt pieces of poop. Yeah, but also you have to understand that he funds these lower level politicians to where you can get away with that shit a lot easier, right?
Starting point is 01:09:19 And I'm sure he's saying it's the same thing, though. It is. 100% is. Obviously, it is 100% the same thing, if not worse, in some ways, depending on how you look at it. But nonetheless, it's, you know, that's why he goes after the local offices, the, you know, Los Angeles district attorney, this and this and this and you're supplying money in here. Is he registered? Hell no.
Starting point is 01:09:40 And I'm sure there's no telling how many are not registering or are heavily involved across the spectrum, especially in our politics, in our justice system. There's a reason why our justice system was went to shit. I mean, it's always never been that great, but it has been. one of the better justice systems around the world if you look at justice systems around the world. But if you look at also what's going on in our country, everything is failing. Our justice system is failing. Our politics and policies are failing. Our health care system is failing. Our medicine is failing people. Our economy is failing us.
Starting point is 01:10:13 And all these things that are failing, it leads to one thing. And that's money. Well, it leads to money. Money equals power. And whoever has the money is going to be the one that's in power. Yeah. But you also. understand why it's important that groups like APEC and not just APEC, really any of these groups should, you know, and that's the problem. Any lobbying group in any way, shape, or form should not be allowed to fund politicians to a point where, you know, they are then under the direction of these lobbying groups or under these heavy funders, these donors, because then it's no longer about what the people want. It's what the companies want. Yeah, exactly. You know, think about even Pfizer and Moderna.
Starting point is 01:10:54 Do you not think they're funding certain politicians? Of course, they are. I mean, of course they are. Like, even Dr. Falsci and the NIH, the NIH and Dr. Fulci scientists received over $723 million, I think it was, is what they said. And that's just in royalties from Pfizer and Moderna or whoever, whichever ones it was. And so you're thinking $700-something million they got in bonuses from all these? I mean, come on, dude. And think about how many other politicians.
Starting point is 01:11:22 that were made sure to shut the hell up. How much money did they make, right? But that's also why you see these massive corporations that are, you know, one in the same, whether FBI and our CIA. That's why you have FBI agents that used to be in Twitter. We know that when a lot of these FBI guys or CIA guys either leave, retire, or shift positions, guess where they're going? They're going to social media companies to be over their trust and safety boards.
Starting point is 01:11:48 And all they're really doing is ensuring that all social media is censored. it is monitored at all at all times and you can fully then control discourse of the people. And that's why X is a huge problem, even though I still don't think for sure that X is not, is not infiltrated. I still think there are people in X that are doing bad things behind the scenes. I don't know if Elon Musk 100% knows about those people that are still in his company or he does know about those people. I often go back to if you have that many contracts right in the United States government as Elon must does and yet you think that they're just going to let you get away with just having a completely
Starting point is 01:12:26 free speech platform to where there's there's no um there's no rebuttal from the government or whatever the case i just find that hard to believe i think elin might be compromised as well yeah well so i guess my point is we cannot just point a finger at apac and say oh israel is ruling america because they're the most influential that's not true there are other packs all over and I get to your point that they're an outside, you know, foreign country or whatever, but they're not in charge of America because they're influential. There's many other things that are influencing America than just Israel. Yeah, no, you're right.
Starting point is 01:13:07 We're going to play one last clip. This is Nick Fuentes. Obviously, Nick Fuentes is a guy that has been labeled anti-Semitic. He's the guy I talked about that turned up to Turnin Point USA. About a week ago, they did not let him in to Turnin Point, U.S. a turning point USA, remember Charlie Kirk. He's the guy that just questioned whether or not Israel could have known about the attack happening. They called him anti-Semitic, although he is 100%, one of the most pro-Israel pundits,
Starting point is 01:13:34 especially out there right now. But here is Nick Fuentes and what he had to say about October 7th, just to close this part out. Here you go. Now, if you're Israel, if you knew that Hamas was planning this, even if you didn't know when, wouldn't you fortify the border? Maybe you don't know precisely when the attack is coming or maybe you don't believe that it is coming, but don't you fortify the border because you see them planning to do it? Don't you do that just in case out of an abundance of caution? You don't say, we'll take our chances. That was Friday. Now we learn, not only did they know about it over a year in advance,
Starting point is 01:14:14 but they were short selling the Israeli stock market. contracts that expire on the day after the invasion. And they made, what was the number, a billion dollars? So Israeli traders or other traders made a billion dollars betting that the Israeli stock exchange would crash a day after the attack. Really? So they knew that they were doing it. They saw them preparing it. They didn't fortify the border. And then two weeks before the attack, they all shorted the Israeli stock exchange. So, Israeli day traders knew something that the Israeli government didn't, or some other traders knew, something that the Israeli government didn't.
Starting point is 01:15:00 They knew about it, but Mossad didn't, Israeli military intelligence didn't. I mean, so this story is just crumbling. That story is completely, it was already implausible. It already made no sense, and everyone acknowledged that from the beginning. Every aspect of it that I just said, up until and including the moment the attack began. Because Israel has helicopters. You can mobilize those helicopters in 20 minutes. Israel's not a big place.
Starting point is 01:15:28 You could get helicopters to the border in a second. It took them eight hours to respond. And it took them a full day to repel the invasion. And everyone pointed out from the beginning, this is pretty conspicuous for all the reasons I stated. But that's what we knew the day of. Two months later, we see Israel's ambitions here. And we see this evidence from Friday and today.
Starting point is 01:15:52 And the narrative that they didn't see it coming, this intelligence failure narrative, it no longer satisfies. It no longer satisfies all the conditions. Israel didn't know, but they did know about it, but they just didn't think it would happen, but yet some other people thought it would happen, the day that it happened, it's crumbling.
Starting point is 01:16:14 That narrative doesn't work anymore. It just doesn't pass a test. So what we're left to believe is that it was that this was done deliberately. That seems to be the only viable conclusion. If Israel wasn't surprised, then it means that they knew this was coming and Hamas invaded
Starting point is 01:16:33 and they let it happen. They permitted Hamas to invade. They allowed Hamas to invade. They deliberately allowed Hamas to take hostages. Maybe Israel even killed their own people in the crossfire to inflate the kill count. Then they could go
Starting point is 01:16:50 to the United States and talk about the about 15 9-11s that just occurred on our soil, and they could annex Gaza. And they could save Netanyahu from prosecution and save his Lycud government. And they could take Gaza, which they always wanted, which they're doing right now. And now that's bad enough. That shows that Israel's a pariah state. That shows these people are barbarians. People talk about Muslims are barbarians. They are, they let their own people get killed. They killed their own people so that they could go and seize land, so that they could leave a dictator in power. And they talk about Putin, Putin's a war criminal. This is like the most war criminal thing that's happened since Saddam Hussein. Or, or I don't even know,
Starting point is 01:17:39 go back to Stalin or something. This is about as bad as it gets in the 21st century. They talk about Putin. They talk about the Palestinians. This seems to be the inescapable conclusion, is a Nenjahou killed and let his own people be killed so that he could stay in power in Canamaks Gaza and become a war hero. That would be his legacy. So there you go. So there's what Nick Fuentes had to say about the situation. Obviously, they label him anti-Semitic.
Starting point is 01:18:07 They have for years. Although he seems to be wanting America first. Now, regardless of how you look at it, guys, I don't know. Did Israel have anything to do with killing their own people? I don't know. I've not seen any evidence of that. Um, we're specifically talking though right now about, uh, did Israel know that the attack was going to happen?
Starting point is 01:18:28 It appears they did. And you've got to start asking a question. If they knew that it was going to happen, why did they let it happen? What was the purpose of that? And, you know, it does make sense to what Sherry said earlier where, you know, why would also Hamas just decide to do this knowing that they were going to be killed or just blown up? They knew that their region would be forever gone, uh, would be. in shambles.
Starting point is 01:18:53 It would literally be under rubble. And so what was the purpose for Hamas to do this? I mean, what was this cause? Because obviously Hamas does not give a shit about their own people. And so almost as if they were maybe doing it as like a suicide mission, right? Maybe this was just a big suicide mission. They didn't care whether they died or, you know, or not. Or, you know, just when they did this, they didn't care when they went back to their country
Starting point is 01:19:17 that they were going to be blown up and not have actually anywhere to go. still doesn't make a lot of sense to me because there's no way, like to Sherry's point earlier, that they thought for any reason Israel was not going to attack back. So even that to me is weird, right? I mean, even why Hamas did it, right? Why did they do it? Um, is weird to me. And, you know, the biggest argument here has always been, like, who's been mean to who? Has Israel been mean to Palestinians over years and years and years and then if you hear the other side of the argument, you know, you'll hear the argument of, look, you know, Israel has done a lot for Palestine and Gaza. They have given them greenhouses and all these things, which they would immediately
Starting point is 01:19:57 burn down and try to destroy anything that Israel gave to the Palestinians. Now, I'm not saying that Palestinian people necessarily 100% did that. Don't know. Could have been Hamas. But you got to remember, too, that in Hamas, or sorry, in Palestine, typically the school-age children, at least from what we've heard, are essentially kind of taught to hate Jews. I don't know if that's 100% accurate or not in every school. I don't know. That's just what we have heard in the past. But that still does not make innocent civilians fair game to just be destroyed and killed.
Starting point is 01:20:31 And especially if you knew this damn attack was going to happen, you could have stopped it. But instead, you wanted for whatever agenda you had, you allowed it to happen to then also go and kill thousands of civilians alongside Hamas. and that is basically where I stand with this whole thing. And, you know, there are definitely some people that will, you know, and I guess that's the thing I got to be careful with as well is just, you know, when you talk about Israel, you can't classify all Jewish people in what Israel is doing, right? Are a lot of the leaders Jewish, obviously, in Israel? Yes.
Starting point is 01:21:07 I mean, they are. But that does not mean that just because what our government is doing and they're Americans, even though not many are hell, we probably. probably are going to have not many Americans in our government before long. But, you know, just because they're Americans doesn't mean I agree with what our government is doing around the world. Obviously, we don't. Like, that's why we have a podcast that talks about corruption all the time about our government, you know, and I also think that's why there were many protests in the streets of Israel. I mean, this is not just, no matter what people in America, and especially Jewish people in America,
Starting point is 01:21:40 no matter what the Jewish people in America want to believe about Israel and how they see Israel, how they see that whole area. I just wonder how many Jewish people in Israel see it the same way. I wonder how many Jewish people see corruption in their government, much like we see corruption in ours. That would be the big question I would have, because obviously people over here don't really see what's really going on over there. And I 100% agree with you.
Starting point is 01:22:07 I think when we're pointing fingers and saying, you knew this, you did this, you killed these people, and now you're killing these people. when we're saying you, we have to be specific of who we're talking about. We're not talking about the people of religion, the Jewish people. We have to be talking about their government. If they really did know this and they let this happen and they did it to destroy the Gaza Strip, it's the they is the government.
Starting point is 01:22:34 It's not necessarily the people. And Futa, or whatever his name is, calling Israel a barbaric country is absurd to me because that means that every country that has correct government is. I think United States is barbaric. Let me tell you why I think. Then you have to call America barbaric as well. Even think about when Ian brought up when JFK died. And it was a coincidence because of the A-PAC.
Starting point is 01:23:00 What really happened, in my opinion, when JFK was assassinated, he was assassinated because our country wanted to pretend to have an attack from Cuba over here. They wanted to pretend Cubans were attacking America so that we could go attack Cuba. But guess what? Our president stood up and said, no, we are definitely not doing this. And if you want to know what it's called, it's called Operation Northwood. He said, no, we are not going to do a planned surprise fake attack saying it was from Cuba so we can go attack them. And that's when he was assassinating.
Starting point is 01:23:36 Even though our government, our joint chiefs of staff during Operation Northwoods, they really wanted to kill Americans. and then blame it on Cuba. Exactly. The same thing. So obviously JFK was like, hell no. But you know what? More specifically, yes, 100% I think Operation Northwoods has a huge part of potentially why JFK was assassinated.
Starting point is 01:23:54 But then, you know, if you just start hearing all of these things about JFK, right? It's almost like JFK was a president that was in a position of power. He wanted to do things that were bad for America. Sorry, he wanted to try to stop things that were bad. From happening that were bad for America. I think that you saw JFK get into office. He looked around, saw the corruption. I think he might have had or been a part of maybe some type of things that he saw a lot of shit that maybe he shouldn't have seen or knew about.
Starting point is 01:24:23 Yeah, basically. Yeah. Well, he wanted to get rid of a lot of the craziness that was going on in Washington. He combated the intelligence agencies in particular. And, you know, it's just like Chuck Schumer said on whatever the MSNBC show was when he talked specifically about Trump. And he said, he said, you know, Trump must be crazy because he said, if you think that you're going to go after the intelligence agencies and talk shit about them. And Chuck Schumer said, they have every way till Sunday to kill your ass or not kill you, but to get you basically saying they will destroy you. It's the same thing that happened to JFK.
Starting point is 01:24:56 Yeah. But I don't think JFK was assassinated because of the APEC. I think he was assassinated because he was trying to do good for our country. Yeah. And it could have been so many things just combined, maybe, you know. I mean, it could have been the Northwoods thing. Plus, I mean, I'm not saying it was because APEC. Who knows?
Starting point is 01:25:13 We don't know. But, I mean, it's nonetheless. I just think that, you know, potentially he was too good of a president maybe in that particular time period when the government was really starting to ramp up corruption and all of this crazy shit they wanted to do. And, you know, there's definitely been presidents to where you look back. Even, you know, presidents I once thought was good. But then when you start actually looking back at the shit they did, you're like, damn, they must have really. been a part of the system a lot more than I ever knew because I just wasn't awake then. I wasn't awake enough to understand that just because the president is Republican does not
Starting point is 01:25:47 mean they're good. Just because they're a Democrat does not mean they're good. If you're on a Democrat side. Right. And to be honest with you, most politicians are not good anymore. Most politicians, I think what we have learned about this are corrupt. They are compromised by money. They are compromised by intelligence agencies. There are so many freaking ways till Sunday that our politicians are compromised. And I don't know, before I get in trouble in any way, I think we're going to stop this episode. Because I'm just trying to stick with the plan, which is basically just specifically talking about Israel knew about October 7th. So yeah, maybe one day we can do another episode to go deeper on some things. But nonetheless, I think
Starting point is 01:26:32 this just shows that just because something happens, just because you're on a particular side, doesn't matter if it's a religious side, a political side, a whatever it is, does not mean that just because you're on that side, they're always right, right? That side is always the one that is right. But the whole thing that really bothers me is this whole name-calling thing, this anti-Semitism and the Zionist. You're either one or the other. It's all name-calling, and it's all based on religion. When we should not be, again, I said this before, we shouldn't be basing it on a, religion. We need to be basing what's going on through corruption of government.
Starting point is 01:27:13 Well, and listen, the reality is that it's not necessarily one side. I guess what I will say is that someone is the one that's doing all the accusation of anyone that questions certain things, calling them anti-Semites, right? Obviously, yes, you hear the whole Zionist thing. You're a Zionist, right? And Zionism is not necessarily, you know. I want to give you a definition of what a Zionist is. Yeah, I know what a Zionist is. All right. So maybe I am a Zionist then. A Zionist is a person who believes that Jews have the right to a national home in their ancestral homeland, the land of Israel.
Starting point is 01:27:47 Zionism is a modern national liberation movement with ancient roots. Its purpose is to grant self-determination a right of all people to the Jewish people through the reestablishment of Jewish homeland in the land of Israel. Yeah. I mean, what is wrong with that? But I also think that. But what is wrong with that? But I also thought Zionism was their belief also that it was Gaza and Palestine. It was also their land as well.
Starting point is 01:28:15 But the Palestinians, they weren't forced out of Israel. They moved out of Israel. They wanted to leave because somebody promised them they could come back at one time. And that just is not going to happen. I got you. Well, that makes sense. No, I get it. I mean, I've never said, you know, obviously people that believe that Jewish people should have their homeland or Zionists.
Starting point is 01:28:34 I don't think that's a bad thing to call someone a Zionist if that's what people believe for sure. But I do think it's wrong when people call you anti-Semitic because your religious beliefs 100% is completely opposite of that of, say, the Jewish religion. I don't think that's what anti-Semitic means. Well, that is what they call you now because if you believe in your right and your belief in your religion, yeah, but what I'm saying is, Sherry, they're using anti-Semitism just like they're using racism now. It's like they'll call you a racist if you vote this way or. if you believe in America this or values or moralities, they call you racist, right? And we're starting to see a lot of the same similarities with anti-Semitism and who's being called anti-Semitics because they either believe in America first or because they are Christians. And so they believe in Jesus
Starting point is 01:29:21 versus Jews do not believe in Jesus or believe he was crucified or at least believe that, you know, he was a savior, I mean. And so there, we are starting to see that, right? And we are starting to see that the Americans that do not support Israel or do not want American taxpayer dollars to go to Israel all the time or do not want us to go fight a war with Israel, just like we don't want to fight a war in Ukraine. Similarly, you can't call someone anti-Semitic because of that. You should be able to criticize Israel, the government, for whatever, I mean, in particular October 7th, and if they knew about it and whatever else corruption may arise, you should be able to question them and not be labeled anti-Semitic.
Starting point is 01:30:01 it's very similar, even though they don't, I guess, call you anti-Semitic with Ukraine, but they basically call you a Russian sympathizer if you are not for and completely four billions of dollars going to Ukraine. So they're basically calling you a, you know, a Russian bot, a Russian agent. But I think, too, I don't think Jews think Christians are bad people. No, I don't think. And I think that's where people are pointing fingers at Jews saying, you're calling me an anti-Semitic if I don't believe in your religion or if you don't believe in my religion.
Starting point is 01:30:35 Jews don't care what you believe in. Well, I don't think Christians believe that you, that either. I mean, I don't care what Jews believe in. I don't care if Jews believe that Jesus was the Savior or not. And you have a right to believe in Jesus or not to believe in Jesus. And if you don't believe in Jesus, it doesn't make you something else. And if you do make it believe in Jesus, it doesn't make you an anti-Semitic person. I've just looked, look, the one thing that I've always never understood,
Starting point is 01:31:00 right, especially between the relationship between Jews and Christians, is that literally the main thing, the main difference between the two religions are, according to Christians, the very most important part of the differences, right, which is Jesus Christ and the Savior. And according to Christians, right, you either believe in Jesus that all of this happened, right? Or you go to hell, basically, right? I mean, so that's just what's always confused me is like these are very two different things, right? These are two completely different sides of a religion. And I think it's because Jesus was a Jew.
Starting point is 01:31:36 And Christians have to stand by Jesus because he was a Jew. And I think that's where that connection goes, why Christians, you know, protect Israel and the Holy Land. Because that's where Jesus was from. Well, I don't know that I want to get into any more of this conversation. I just, I'm just saying this is my point to this whole thing. This is a war between. countries. This is not a religious war and we're making a religious war by calling each other names. Yeah. I mean, well, the reality is I don't know if the war between why they hate each
Starting point is 01:32:11 other necessarily is religious in nature. I think probably has something to do with it between Israel and Palestine for sure. But yeah, but it is funny, though, to me that when people are called anti-Semites, because they don't necessarily support the Israeli government, right? And that's, that's American right. You have a right to not support a foreign nation. We are not Israel. We are not from Israel. And we are from America, right? And so we love America. We want what's best for America. That does not mean we want Jewish or sorry, Israel to, you know, be wiped off the face of the planet or something. We just care about America, right? Just the same with Ukraine and the same with other countries. But Israel is our
Starting point is 01:32:52 ally. And they have barbaric terrorist groups all around Israel. They're surrounded by them. Okay. And they are terrorist groups. Well, they should have stopped October 7th then. I don't think Israel is a terrorist group. Yes, I agree. If they knew about it and they didn't stop it, they were in the wrong.
Starting point is 01:33:11 But I have to go back to what we've been discussing. Why did Hamas do it in the first place? I don't know. I have no idea. But there's probably a lot to this story besides the fact that Israel knew about it on October 7th, we don't know about. And I think that's the problem, right? There's so much we don't know, right? And, you know, look, we can have a religious conference.
Starting point is 01:33:30 one day on another podcast and another episode, not a podcast, but another episode. But, you know, we just specifically wanted to talk about this because I think this is important. Obviously, you have two sides of this, right? You have more specifically, you have the pro-Palestinian side, which is basically taken over our college campuses. You know, they're using this entire situation as an excuse to do the same shit that BLM did. And so is everybody else. Antifa groups did to destroy cities.
Starting point is 01:33:58 and we've seen the same thing. It is an election year. If it wasn't the pro-Palestine thing, it would be something else. It would be anti-police. It would be, you know, some other faction of people. And oftentimes these groups of people are at times similar people. There's similar people that show up at the Antifa rallies or the BLM rallies. And I think what it really is is, as I said, I think it's more anti-America than it is pro-America or pro-Palestine.
Starting point is 01:34:26 I think we probably are. someone is mobilizing these groups across the country. A lot of these groups also, by the way, are very organized. Consider them as terrorist groups. Yeah, they could be domestic terror groups. But our government doesn't care about them. They care about MAGA supporters. They care about people that support Trump or the people that believe in the Constitution.
Starting point is 01:34:46 They consider those people a threat. Those are also the people that Biden continues to threaten on a daily basis, not daily basis, but very often now with F-15s and nuclear warheads, basically saying, oh, you think that if you care about the Second Amendment and you think that when we go wrong, which is what he said, he said, you think when we go crazy or wrong, whatever he said, that you're going to come and do anything about it with your gun? With your AR-15s or whatever. And he says, we have F-15s and nuclear warheads.
Starting point is 01:35:14 He's literally threatening his own people. Yeah. Well, and I think that it is Biden's fault that we're even experiencing any of these wars right now. Yeah. I honestly believe if Biden was not the president of the United States, no of this would be happening. I don't think we would have the war in Ukraine in Russia. I don't think we'd have open borders. I don't even think the Israel-Hamas thing would have happened.
Starting point is 01:35:38 No, maybe, but maybe, maybe not. I mean, I definitely don't think Ukraine, Russia would have happened. I don't know what would have happened with the Hamas-Israel situation. Because if Israel knew about this situation, then America knew it, too. Oh, I'm sure they did. Absolutely. Why didn't we come out and do something about it? because there was probably an ulterior motive here.
Starting point is 01:35:55 I mean, I don't know. And, you know, Egypt even warned them. So, hey, guys, there's going to be an attack on this day. And you've got to remember the short sell options for these stocks expired on October 8th. So there's no question they knew the day, whoever knew the day. Right. And so, you know, this goes back to if the IDF knew according to the Jerusalem Post, then obviously that's how the information got leaked to whoever was influence in the stock market on short sales.
Starting point is 01:36:20 Probably very similarly to 9-11, also the last. Las Vegas shooting. All types of these things are sometimes connected in ways we don't understand. And guys, we're going to continue to dig on this as more information becomes available. I do think that this situation in the Middle East will certainly escalate, especially if there is no ceasefire deal. And Hasbala and Israel keeps, you know, getting pretty close to an all-out war situation with them. Or if Israel invades some of these other nations around, which has been speculation, would they, do that? Would they invade Lebanon? And so on. We don't know. But all of that is going to play a role in
Starting point is 01:36:59 what happens in the future in the Middle East. And then obviously, we have to be watching Russia and Ukraine because that situation is fast escalating as well. We'll probably touch base on that in a future episode. But guys, we promise we're going to get out more episodes. We're actually doing this one in the morning. And we're going to have a lot of great episodes for you next week going into July. We're going to be gone, I think, July 2nd through the 7th, I believe. We're going to try to get out some episodes to basically roll out during that time as well. I think that's it. Hopefully, I didn't get in trouble. No, this was much better. Thank you. So, listen, and we can have the conversation about religion at another time, because I do think it's an important conversation.
Starting point is 01:37:44 And for those that are wanting religious conversations and talks again, we are going to have another Bible talk very soon. Stay tuned for that. Until next time, guys. We love you. Peace out. Peace out, guys. Won't stop for traffic lights.
Starting point is 01:38:16 Falling down. I will keep on searching for my highs. I can say I lost my mind. I will keep on holding my head high. Even the sky is falling down. Cliffs so high. Our wings to fly. Times are crashing down.
Starting point is 01:38:58 But we get. up and start from the ground down i will keep on searching for my highs lost my mind i will keep on holding my head high the sky's fall

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