Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - January 6th Pipe Bomb Suspect A Capitol Police Officer Turned CIA? Explosive New Details

Episode Date: November 10, 2025

Tonight on Investigate Earth Podcast, we break down a major development that could finally crack one of the biggest unsolved mysteries tied to January 6th. According to new reporting from The Blaze, f...ederal sources may have identified the person behind the pipe bombs planted outside the RNC and DNC headquarters on the eve of the Capitol riot. For years, the so-called “January 6th pipe bomber” has remained a ghost, a figure caught on surveillance cameras but never brought to justice. What The Blaze uncovered may expose what really happenex that day. Was this an inside job? Was the pipe bomber meant to be a distraction or a catalyst? Join Chad and Sheri as they break down the evidence and the political implications. Subscribe and follow to stay ahead of the censorship.Our Merchandise Store

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Starting point is 00:00:30 and welcome to Investigator with podcast. I'm your host chat alongside my beautiful wife sherry. On tonight's episode, we're getting into the biggest mystery from the January 6th, quote-unquote, insurrection, which is the pipe bomber. And for years, the FBI has said they have poured tons of resources into finding out who planted those explosives near the RNC and DNC headquarters the night before the Capitol riot. And after nearly four years of silence, new reports are claiming that the person responsible may have finally been identified. The bite bomber has been one of the most elusive figures connected to that day, a ghost caught on surveillance cameras calmly walking through DC with a backpack with explosives, planting them right under the noses of federal security.
Starting point is 00:01:11 At least that's what they say. The FBI called this viable devices designed to kill and distract. But the bigger question has always been who was behind it and why did it happen the night before everything unfolded at the Capitol? Guys, that's what we're going to talk about on tonight's show. It is November the night. And the name of this song is The Chase, which is a great song. We've actually played this quite a few times on the show.
Starting point is 00:01:36 And so, yeah, this is not really surprising. There are new reports coming out that they think they know who the January 6 pipe bomber is. And it may surprise you that it is technically someone that is in the CIA now. Isn't that crazy? And was also a Capitol police officer during the time of the January 6 riots or insurrection, however you want to call the thing. And so not only has the FBI over the years said that they have poured so much resources and they're trying to figure out who the pipe bomber was.
Starting point is 00:02:08 They didn't necessarily have all of the surveillance footage they needed from where the person came from. There were phone records that they say they had lost, you know, kind of like the moon landing technology. Somehow they also lost that. But this all seems like it was one big conspiracy within the government. to make Republicans look like a bunch of terrorists. And although, yes, there were absolutely violent people that was at the Capitol building
Starting point is 00:02:36 that day on January 6th. The problem is we don't necessarily know how many of those people were just straight up, you know, protesters, rioters, insurrectionist, or how many of those were actually federal employees or even law enforcement. And so this has been used since 2021 against the Republicans. They desperately tried to use it against Trump. And I think more so they wanted to. to kind of just put it on everybody that was a conservative and Republican, that we were
Starting point is 00:03:02 terrorists and that no one should vote for anybody that has anything to do with Donald Trump. And then, of course, now there is a new report that comes out that says that they think they have found the person of interest, the person that is in the videos, and they think they know how this person did it, why they did it, and the progression of their career afterwards, right? So they were, as we said, a capital police officer. They now apparently work in the CIA or for the CIA in Langley, Virginia or somewhere near there.
Starting point is 00:03:33 And so all of this kind of starts to add up. Now, this person, if you look at this person on the picture, you know, it kind of reminds you of something that you might see from the DEI kind of phase, right? Exactly. And it's just so weird to me that this whole thing is coming out now. But what's even stranger is the FBI are not the ones coming out with this information. It's other people coming out with the information. Why is the FBI holding back and why are they covering this up?
Starting point is 00:04:03 Yeah, it seems like for sure that Cash Patel, Dan Bongino, any of them, they likely would have known who this person was, especially considering that it was a journalist that actually came out with this information over the past couple of days. And this said journalist was also arrested after January 6 because of the fact that he was there reporting what was actually going on. he was showing what was going on. He was then later arrested for his, I guess, involvement in January 6th. And this guy had been out there everywhere talking about, can you believe that they were arrested me, a journalist that was just covering what happened outside the Capitol that day. Not only was it him that was arrested,
Starting point is 00:04:44 but there were many others that were arrested after that. I don't know Owen Schroier from Info Wars. Enrico Tario, they charged him with conspiracy, although he was pardoned. Obviously, you have Jake Chansley. We've had him on the podcast, although I'm not exactly sure what's going on with Jack. Jake Chansley over the past six months.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Yeah, I know. There's something very strange. He kind of went off the deep end a little bit and like a lot of what he's saying is not making any sense anymore. Yeah, but it makes complete sense in his mind. It does. Yeah. Because he's actually going out and trying to sue the government for this and that.
Starting point is 00:05:13 And saying that he's the real president. And he even, I mean, you know, we message back and forth a decent amount. And like some of the messages that Jake Chansley, aka the QAnon shaman for those that do not know who Jake is, there were a lot of things that he was. there were a lot of things that he would say to me that he would be like, look, man, they got MK. Ultra on me. Like, you don't understand. They've had this on me before January 6th.
Starting point is 00:05:35 And it was just like a lot of the stories and a lot of the things he says, it sounds so out there. You know, because he didn't use to talk like this. Like when we had him on the podcast, he would come on our live streams. You know, yeah, he was a little out there as far as some of his beliefs. And, you know, he was a shaman. He believes in that kind of whole thing. But it's just weird how he, he. completely change. And I'm not saying it
Starting point is 00:05:57 necessarily for bad. I don't know what's going on with him. Well, it's interesting because we were going to have him on a podcast because he reached out to us. He's like, listen, I want you guys to release this information that I have to share. He's like, it's dire. We've got to get it done. But it was so hard
Starting point is 00:06:13 to get in touch with him because he was constantly deactivating all of his social media. And that was the only way that we could even connect with him was through social media. But during that time, I did dive into the rabbit holes of Jake Chansley and, you know, just going through and reading his posts and reading what people were saying.
Starting point is 00:06:34 And it was really like some of this stuff was outlandish, but you can't ever say that just because it's outlandish. It's not true. Yeah, you're exactly right. I have learned over the past year that, you know, just because something sounds so crazy doesn't mean that it is. And we've talked about so many subjects on this show. and you know it's especially over the past couple of months you know there's been a lot of shows we've done
Starting point is 00:07:00 that seems to have pissed off quite a few people and you know the one thing i will say to you guys listening guys and girls out there listening to us and especially the ones that have been there for a while you know if first of all thank you for staying with us and following us although i know that none of us completely always agree with the same thing i think that our mission as much as so many of your missions out there is to find the truth. And that is really mostly what we want. That is all we want. And sometimes we look at things differently. Some people are deeper than others. Obviously right now, there is this mega faction that is going out against Tucker Carlson and the can of so ones, basically anybody that stepping out of line. And we've kind of felt that a little bit over the past
Starting point is 00:07:42 month or so. It just seems like there's kind of been this shift. And with some of our audience, just because we have either talked about Israel too much or we criticize Trump in any way or or, you know, and then there's also people that say that we're not criticizing Trump enough. And so it's just like we're always kind of on this battle. But the one thing that we can promise you guys just from us is that we're never going to try to tell you something that we don't believe to be true. That is our entire goal. And we're trying to do our very best to figure out all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:08:12 And listen, it is not easy. It is not easy having to read through a million articles, watch a million videos, listen to how people talk about this or go back to even the way they used to be, for example, like what did they used to talk about? Let's go back on the wayback machine and look at five years ago and see what they were saying. And that's what you almost have to do now, because it's hard to trust anybody. It's hard to trust any information. It's hard to trust news sources. And there are select few that we can trust. And just like this episode today that we're going to talk about Glenn Beck, which is one of the ones that basically broke this story by the Blaze
Starting point is 00:08:46 with Steve Baker, Steve Baker being the journalist, you know, this is something that I believe that, this is the only evidence we've got so far. The FBI hasn't come out with any information. Cash Patel Dan Bongino, nor did the other FBI come out with any information. There's a lot of people now saying that they believe Cash Patel and Dan Bonginio are covering this up. And they're trying to make it, you know, like, no, this Steve Baker guy doesn't know what
Starting point is 00:09:11 the hell he's talking about. This has nothing to do with anything. So I do want to go ahead and get into that. So the article from Blaze Media says former capital police officer, a forensic match for January 6 pipe bomber sources say. And so a computer program that compared the bomb suspect's gate to that of Shawnee Kirkhoff produced a 94% match. Now, a forensic analysis of a female former U.S. Capitol Police Officers gate is a 94 to 98% match
Starting point is 00:09:39 to the unique stride of the long-sought January 6 pipe bomb suspect, according to a blaze news investigation confirmed by several intelligent sources. A source close to a congressional investigation of January 6th additionally told Blaze news evidence had emerged recently that pointed towards law enforcement possibly being involved in planting of the pipe bombs. And here is the actual quote. They were effing in on it. It was the quote, a software algorithm that analyzes walking parameters including flexion, which is knee bend, hip extension speed, step length, cadence, and variance rated Shawnee Ray Kirkoff, 31 of Alexandria, Virginia. as a 94% match to the bomb suspect shown on video from January 5th, 2021. So what I do want to go ahead and get into is the video.
Starting point is 00:10:27 This is on Blaze. This is with Glenn Beck and Steve, the journalist, the guy that actually went to prison for a while over his reporting, I guess you can say, of January 6th. So let's go ahead and get into that video right now. There is a breaking news story that hopefully is coming out tomorrow. you'll understand once you hear the story. This is one of the biggest stories. I think it is the biggest scandal of my lifetime, maybe in the last 100 years.
Starting point is 00:11:01 It is monstrous what Steve Baker has is going to report on. And we're going to give you some, a little bit of background. I can tell you this. There is a major development in the January 6th. pipe bomber investigation. Blaze News has the exclusive, because it is Steve's reporting that has brought this to attention. And unfortunately, its lead suspect is at the highest levels of government.
Starting point is 00:11:38 It is a massive, massive scandal. And Steve joins me now. Hello, Steve. Hey, Glenn. Good morning. So the reason why we're not breaking it today is because, well, first, how long have you been working on this story? I've been pulling the threads on this for exactly four years. But I finally pulled the correct thread exactly weeks ago today.
Starting point is 00:12:11 I have to tell you, if anybody ever wondered why they made such a big deal out of arresting Steve, this is why. Because you were pulling at these threads the whole time. And you were relentless on this. And Steve, when you, you were working on another story, right? And like, just dots started to appear and you were like, how did this come to you? Well, the genesis of this, let's be honest, goes back to much of my work into examining the various players at Capitol Police. Capital Police seem to have a much, much oversized participation in how January 6th developed. And when I say that, I'm not talking about the frontline officers.
Starting point is 00:13:07 You know, many of those frontline officers have become some of our most trusted sources. And by the way, they love the blaze. They love our coverage. Just this past January 6th, I was there covering the certification of the election. Think about the irony of that. And I was there in the Capitol. I had three different officers, two plain clothes and one uniformed officer, stop me in the hallways of the Capitol building to whisper to me and say, we love your work.
Starting point is 00:13:41 I have to tell you, because you're rooting out the bad guys. You know, all of the officers are not bad. There's a few. And your story that came out what I think yesterday about the tear gas and the devices that were shot into the faces and heads of the protesters, those guys who did this, who they knew exactly. exactly what they were doing, and they're on tape. That helps the average officer, because you can now go, it was them. That's right. We have examined this particular story that we released yesterday.
Starting point is 00:14:21 We've been looking at this for years. We've done updates, but finally, Joe Hanneman and myself, what we did is we started drilling down into identifying who these officers were once we knew that they were. were taking deliberately criminally negligent shots. These are training officers, training officers in use of less than lethal munitions, weapons, launchers, whatever they want to call them. And what we discovered by going straight to the manufacturers, by going straight to the certified, the people that certify the training officers who train the training officers, is that they are told, instructed, it's printed on the sides of those weapons.
Starting point is 00:15:08 You cannot aim them at people's heads, faces, necks, their groinings, their kidneys. They can be deadly if you do so. And at the range that these training officers were firing these weapons in the first 10 minutes of the riot, these were deliberate shots and one of our closest sources, a special operations guy from the Army, retired, very familiar with these devices, said that if they are training officers, they have uttered these words to their classes before. Oh, by the way, if you want to start a riot, shoot them in the head. Yeah, and I want to talk about something real quick before he goes on,
Starting point is 00:15:55 because he's going to get into how they found the actual police officer that allegedly at this time was the pipe bomber. But what I think actually happened this day on January 6th is that not only was the government completely taken over. If you want to talk about insurrection, I don't think it was an insurrection by Donald Trump. I don't think it was an insurrection by Republicans or the rioters, protesters, whatever you want to call them. There was an insurrection that day. and someone took over every single department and especially the Capitol Police. Because Sherry, you remember, we did a podcast about the interview. Yeah, several of them about Stephen Sun, the police chief at the Capitol.
Starting point is 00:16:35 And he was basically clueless and they wouldn't tell him anything. No. And we actually have a clip of him that we're going to play in just a minute. When he was talking to Tucker Carlson about what actually went on that day from his perspective. And keep in mind, he was supposed to be the guy that was over everything. in charge of everything. And they left him out to dry. But it was interesting when this guy was just talking about how the first 10 minutes,
Starting point is 00:16:58 they just fired the rubber bullets at people. Do you remember? I think the guy's name was Tommy Boy. Yeah, yeah. He also went to prison over this, over the insurrection. We had him on the show. Yeah, we had him on the show. We came and interviewed him.
Starting point is 00:17:12 But it was interesting because he got shot several times with those rubber bullets in the first 10 minutes when he wasn't even doing anything. Yeah. And he was actually on the show. the ground because he had some medical experience. So as you guys know, like if you look at Antiva, BLM, any of the riots, there's always these medical personnel, I guess you can say, or medics. They'll call them like protest medics, riot medics.
Starting point is 00:17:34 But there are people that show up to places like this that do have medical training or medical background. And this was him. You know, he had actually tended to some of these people that were shot in the face. Right. And these rubber bullets were literally coming through some people's cheeks. Right. And so if you're shooting people in the face at close range with these less than lethal or non-lethal devices, especially to rubber bullets, if you're hitting them close enough, it was going through some people's cheeks, through their necks into some of their arms, into their legs.
Starting point is 00:18:03 And we're talking about actual penetration. Now, a lot of these bullets can't necessarily penetrate all the way through. It depends on how close you actually fire them because you could actually fire some rubber bullet at someone 15 feet away. and it could potentially penetrate to a vital organ that would kill you. And so this was happening to these protesters to where it started to infuriate these people to the point where they were getting shot point blank in the face from 30 yards away. And so we had a firsthand account of this. But what I'm saying is I feel like January 6th, it wasn't insurrection, but the Democrats
Starting point is 00:18:38 or the deep state at that time had taken over the Capitol Police. They had taken over the National Guard because they were not going to allow the National Guard. into Washington, D.C., they already kind of had that planned. Even I think it was three days prior to January 6th, when the National Guard was supposed to be training on crowd control tactics and all this stuff, they actually took away crowd control devices from the National Guard and they refused to train on this particular type of, say, riot or protest. So it was like planned in advance and the FBI keeping in mind too, Sherry.
Starting point is 00:19:11 You remember like three or four days prior to January 6th, the FBI, knew every single person that was in Washington, D.C. Yes. If they were coming from another state or whatever, they had your phone, they were geotracing, everybody that came in and out of Washington, D.C., and especially people that were in groups or that were gathering around and that likely, in my opinion, I think that they were screening people's text messages, phone calls, emails, all of this. And then they were basically just putting all these people in groups.
Starting point is 00:19:39 So they knew every person that was there to do or to go to the protest, to go to the the speech that Donald Trump gave and then obviously then go to the Capitol building. But if you remember, Donald Trump called Nancy Pelosi and said, listen, we're going to have to have backup on January 6th. I'm afraid things are going to go bad and we have to have people out there. Capitol Police alone are not going to be able to handle the crowd. And now that we go back in time, we know it wasn't just the crowd. There was a lot of people that were bad actors that were in law enforcement. Yeah, that were in law enforcement standing in as Republicans.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Yeah. And these were the people that also started the chaos. But if you remember Tommy Boy's interview, he said the chaos really started when they started shooting the bullets at the crowd. Yeah, for sure. It did. I mean, and that is when all the violence really did start because it was pissing people off. It was exciting people. And as Steve right here says, he's like, you know, if you want to start a riot, this is how you do it.
Starting point is 00:20:43 You would just start shooting people with non-lethal, piss them off enough to where they want to fight back. And that's exactly what they did. Now, with what Sherry said, too, when Trump was trying to get Nancy Pelosi and the government to make sure that National Guard was there, and especially in the days leading into January 6th. And I think that the Democrats had already kind of been planning this. I think they were setting up everything perfectly. And then especially when Trump and maybe some of Trump's allies went out and reached out and said, look, this is what I think we're going to need for crowd control or whatever. I think they saw that as a golden ticket, a golden opportunity to say, hey, however we got to do this, guys, we have to take over Capitol Police. We got to do this.
Starting point is 00:21:21 We got to make sure National Guard isn't there. And we have to entice this riot to the point where we literally opened doors for people. We let them in a Capitol building and we claim it as an insurrection. And that's exactly what they did. But I think they took over government completely that day to the point where even as we were talking about, Chief Stephen's son, with the Capitol Police, had no idea. he was locked out of his official duties to be able to actually coordinate anything. And this is the guy that is supposed to be the number one guy you would go to in an event like this. And this is also the guy that should be recommending the National Guard as he did that day.
Starting point is 00:21:57 And they refused. And he was even trying to call everybody up the chain. Everybody was basically ignoring him and saying stay in your freaking lane, dude. And he's like, no, I'm the capital police chief. And they were like, well, we don't really give a shit what you are. And so it was like in his mind in that moment, I think it, I think it was like a reality check. He was like, oh, shit, I think I know what's happening, which is exactly why he went on Tucker Carlson and told his story, which we're going to play a clip of that in just a moment because
Starting point is 00:22:24 this kind of explains, you know, this very well could be one of the biggest coverups in United States government history, especially considering how the Democrats tried and did use that against Republicans, Trump, and conservatives. and just a conservative movement in general. Yeah, and it just ticks me off that they still, to this day, when was that in 2021, they still use the January 6th insurrection as their talking points. Okay. So you're working on that story, and I don't want to get into what you found,
Starting point is 00:22:56 but it's it's in that story that people will see. That's why I encourage them to read this story because that story is connected to the next one. So when you started to find the individual, you were buttoned up. You had video and everything else. And then you brought it to the government? For our next story, the follow-up to this one, I did put some breadcrumbs in this story on purpose. But what we discovered was a character that, high degree of probability is involved in the biggest scandal, as you mentioned earlier,
Starting point is 00:23:44 not just of January 6th, but possibly our government system. Yeah. Yeah. And it's at the highest levels. And you are going to name names. And I don't even know what I can ask you. Let me just tell you this. When I stumbled on what I stumbled on, because as I said, I've been pulling these threads for years,
Starting point is 00:24:17 and I pulled one last Wednesday, two weeks ago today, rather. And when I pulled this thread, I was so shocked by what I saw, I immediately took it to a source in one of the most important highest-level investigative federal agencies in the country. I immediately took it to our sources there, and I said, you have to see this. After they looked at it for about two hours, the response that I got back was, holy F, and then the follow-up response was, he's one of us. And when you find out the position, I mean, this is going to lead. It's not just this one person.
Starting point is 00:25:12 This now will implicate so many people at the highest levels that had to have known because of what happened after January 6th. I mean, it's, I mean, how big does this net get? I don't know, but, you know, I will tell you there's a reason why. Look, there's a $500,000 reward on that. And there's a reason why I didn't take it to the people offering of the agency or the bureau. operating the reward. It's because we believe that they were actively engaged in the cover-up. There's no, look, Glenn, I don't have, as a investigative journalist for the Blaze, I have no subpoena power. I don't have the ability to do what an $11 billion a year Bureau of Investigation has.
Starting point is 00:26:10 I don't have the resources. I don't have the time. And yet, I discovered this and they didn't after five years of investigation. I don't believe that. I know. I don't either. I know who you brought it to, too, and right move, exactly the right move on that one. So today there's another briefing because this apparently just has to be done right.
Starting point is 00:26:40 because of national security. I'm gathering. Is that right? Correct. That's kind of what's happening now. Yeah. And so they've got to take care of things. They've got to take care of.
Starting point is 00:26:51 And when that's taken care of, then the story will be released. And I think it's going to be shocking. I'm interested to see how the left, how the Democrats, how the mainstream media dismiss this one. Because, again, it is, if it's true, How confident? What's your confidence level in this story? I can give you forensic estimates. I will tell you that from gate analysis, that's the analysis of the hooded bomber on the evening of November 5th compared to the gate analysis of this individual in private life and at work, that the actual size. software hit at a 94% accuracy, then human analysis from the experts in intelligence is much higher. They've looked at it and went, my God, that's it. You've got it. And put things in motion as a result of that.
Starting point is 00:28:02 And, you know, you can tell I'm dancing around a lot right now. I know, I know, I know, I know. We'll hopefully talk to you about it. I'll say this. Yeah. I'll just say this, Glenn, kind of in closing here, is that it's a high,
Starting point is 00:28:19 high degree of certainty coming from some of the top people in our intelligence community. Okay? And they have already started making moves related to that. There's also a political
Starting point is 00:28:35 aspect to this too, because, as you know, there's some interagency, you know, things going on. Has the president been briefed yet? Do you know? I can tell you that my meeting with a top presidential advisor on Monday is that they're taking this to the president's chief of staff to arrange a briefing there as well.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Well, there's going to be a lot of activity in Washington today. And hopefully we'll be able to make that announcement and release this news. This is, I mean, this is all the president's men. This is, this is as big as anything. In a world not gone mad, this would be a bestselling book and a major blockbuster movie. Because it's going to be, when this is all, when it all comes out, this is going to involve everybody. I mean, this is really bad, really, really bad. Yeah, so there is the report by Glenn Beck and Steve Baker USA over on X.
Starting point is 00:29:48 If you guys want to follow at Steve Baker, USA, that is actually the journalist that has been working on this pretty much nonstop. And you can't really blame him considering that he went to jail over this just recovering the January 6th insurrection. And the other thing was, is there was a $500,000 reward for anyone that had information on who, this pipe bomber could be. And as Steve Baker says, I obviously did not bring it to them because he might not be alive today or he could still be in prison or something. Something would have happened. If he would have brought information to whoever it was, which I guess at the time was the
Starting point is 00:30:29 FBI and other, I guess you can say intelligence operations within the United States of America, like who were they being operated by the problem with this whole scenario in my mind. And there's a lot of people right now because of Epstein, because of the way Cash Mattel and Pan Bondi has handled everything up to now, there's a lot of people that think that they're going to cover this up as well. And we don't know. I mean, what it sounds like. It sounds like they're not. I mean, to me, it sounds like Steve Baker is actively engaging with Trump's, you know, close confidants and they're kind of working it up the chain. And especially if you have someone now that is in CIA, which we're going to read this.
Starting point is 00:31:08 But doesn't it sound bad that that is coming? from an outsider, a journalist that has come up with this information and found out who the pipe bomber is, the person that planted the bomb, is coming from a journalist and not the FBI. Yeah. I mean, do you not think that sounds a little crazy? Well, you're exactly right. And, you know, the weird thing is like the, I think it was like two or three episodes ago when we talked about the Charlie Kirk assassination, for example, and we talked about all
Starting point is 00:31:36 these high level FBI guys that were involved in Operation Arctic Frost, which was essentially the FBI and the intelligence agencies that were spying on Trump and many others in the lead up to, I believe, the 2020 election. So they were being spied on there was this massive intelligence operation to try to basically dig up dirt and put it on Trump and blame Russia for the stolen election or even just Trump or any of his allies saying that the election in 2020 was stolen, it was an intelligence operation that was trying to tell you that that didn't happen. And even furthermore, I think not only did they use intelligence, they also use legal
Starting point is 00:32:17 warfare. When you're talking about people like Mike Lindell, they got sued for billions or multimillions, and he's still fighting for his life right now. There's been so many others that have been sued. Fox News themselves were sued for $700 plus million. They made Fox News fire Tucker Carlson. And then, of course, now you see everybody's against Tucker Carlson because he just had Nick Fuentes on, which literally Tucker kind of, you know, I guess talked back to Nick Fuentes and kind of called him on some of the stuff that he said in the past. But it doesn't matter because Tucker is such a big name.
Starting point is 00:32:50 They can not have him be incredible anymore, especially now that he's not controlled by mainstream media. And I think the more that we start to understand and realize like who really controls everything, they control everything. and I believe they still control this administration. I believe they still control Cash Patel and Dan Bongino and Trump and all of his allies, Pam Bondi. There are some in the Trump circle, you know, for example. I think Tulsi Gabbard is trying to do certain things, but I have a feeling that she probably won't last very long as D&I, Director of National Intelligence.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Anybody that kind of pushes back, and I'm not even saying pushes back against Trump, Okay. And I'm not even being critical necessarily when I even say this. I'm saying that anybody that pushes back against the big cabal of the deep state, which still exist in our government, they still run everything in our government. And anyone that pushes back on what that deep state wants that current administration to do, they are going to be ousted. And they will use certain people around Trump to make sure it gets in his ear and make sure that, you know, and by the way, I think ever since probably George W. Bush, we had done an episode on this when the White House daily briefing was basically taken over by the CIA, and that was at the behest of George Bush Sr. as he was the FBI director at that time, that was when really the daily briefing to the president of the United States was taken over by intelligence rather than actual his close confidants. So you may think that Trump's in the Oval Office and he's getting all these briefings from like Stephen Miller and Cash Mattel and Pam Bondi.
Starting point is 00:34:33 his appointees, but actually the most critical pieces of information that Trump gets is from the CIA, from the massive intelligence. And these are people that are working within the intelligence organizations or agencies, I guess I can say. These are the people that are controlling what Trump knows, doesn't know, believes, or doesn't believe. Because, you know, Trump's a patriot. He wants to do the best for America, according to the Trump administration.
Starting point is 00:35:00 And so who is the best people you can go to for information? well, it's your intelligence. That is literally how countries win wars. That is how countries take over other countries. That is how countries cause or create insurrections in other countries. This has been done for years. But yeah, it wasn't. I think the CIA really had no involvement in the presidential daily briefing until Bush came in and made that a thing.
Starting point is 00:35:25 So I want to go a little bit more. So this was a veteran analyst who ran the analysis for Blaze News and state. and they said based on the visual observations that the program can struggle with, he personally pegged the match at closer to 98%. Kirkoff, who was a capital police officer for four and a half years, left the department in mid-2020 for a security detail at Central Intelligence Agency. Sources told Blaze News. CIA spokeswoman Liz Lyons stated that the subject worked in campus security.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Kirkov's residence in Alexandria, Virginia, appeared to be under the watch of law enforcement officers on Friday night. Blaze News Editor in Chief Christopher Bedford was pulled over by local police after stopping to observe the home. He was then allowed to leave. So now they are watching this girl's house. Like they have shit all over anywhere in that area. They're watching anybody that comes near her house.
Starting point is 00:36:22 So you've got to protect her right now, they feel like because she is an intelligence asset. No matter how you look at this, you know, they're trying to pass it off like, well, now. you got to leave the Capitol Police that you worked at for four years. We're going to give you a job at CIA headquarters as a security person, essentially, although probably they just wanted to get her the hell out of the Capitol Police. Yeah, well, her cover has been blown. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:36:45 But that happened in 2021. I think that they likely knew that eventually this would happen. Eventually, they're going to figure out who it is. And if they do, then we got to protect her. And I almost guarantee you that wherever she actually lives is not where she's really living. but the FBI, which failed to solve the case in nearly five years of investigating, but indicated that it was closing in after Blaze News brought its investigation to intelligence sources and was feet from Falls Church address of the pipe bomb suspect days after January 6th. And former FBI special agent Kyle Serafin realized Friday that he was doing surveillance next door to the woman now suspected of being the January 6 pipe bomber. The FBI put us one door away from the pipe bomber within days of January 6th.
Starting point is 00:37:29 and we were deliberately pulled away for no logical investigative reason, Serafin told Blaze News Friday. And everything about that tells me that they were involved in a cover-up and have been since day one. And Kyle Serafin actually went on Alex Jones today. And he said pretty much exactly the same thing. We were actually put into a house initially right next to where this girl lives. And then we were pulled away from it immediately, probably about a day later. So obviously, once the deep stayer to hire ups knew that, oh, shit, that we got people at the pipe. bomber's house, we got to pull them out. And that's what they did. That's what Serafin
Starting point is 00:38:02 said. They were effing in on it. And Serafin proposed doing a knock and talk at the door of an Air Force civilian employee whose address was tied to a vehicle that picked up the bomb suspect in Falls Church, Virginia on January 5th, 2021. Now, Serafins' team spent two days watching the man, but Serafins' request to go face to face with the person of interest was denied. The team was pulled off of the case the same night, he said. Sarifan said he had given the same details publicly since 2021. And he says, there's a personal reaction to it,
Starting point is 00:38:32 which is the complete vindication that things I've been saying and my recollection of being briefed on this stuff has been accurate for years and I've never changed my tune. Now, the FBI tied a DC Metro Rail Smart Trip card allegedly used by the pipe bomb suspect to the Air Force civilian employee, but determined that while the man purchased a card, he did not use it. Now, the suspect allegedly used the card to travel from DC to a stop and falls. church after planting the pipe bombs. The Air Force civilian employee had purchased the smart trip card a year earlier.
Starting point is 00:39:05 So are we thinking maybe that this thing had been planned for a year prior, potentially? Well, it just sounds fishy to me because they're talking about a man that they were investigating, but it was actually a woman. So that tells me there's a red flag somewhere right here. Yeah. So the forensic study arranged by Blaze News revealed that Kirchhoff is up to a 98% match to a gate of the pipe bomb suspect. The findings were confirmed by several current intelligence sources who viewed the study results. The source who did the comparison said the software rated the match at 94%.
Starting point is 00:39:37 He put the figure it closer to 96 to 98% match, including a combination of human intelligence and software analysis. I also want to go to this clip of Tucker Carlson talking to the Capitol Police Chiefs, Steven Sund. This is where he's talking about the National Guard restrictions. Listen. You're fourth. What does Miller do?
Starting point is 00:39:56 He puts out a memo restricting the next. National Guard from carrying the various weapons, any weapons, any civil disobedience equipment, that would be utilized for the very demonstrations or violence that he sees coming. It just doesn't make any sense. Wait, wait. So the military says we're so concerned about potential imminent violence that we are considering shutting down the city. But at the very same time, they decide that the National Guard can't adopt an aggressive posture to protect the city. They're deployed because they're going to be deploying National Guard to assist Washington, D.C. with crowd control at metros and some of the traffic control areas. But they put this out on January 4th, specific to January 5th and 6th.
Starting point is 00:40:38 And his direction affected the National Guard in Virginia and Maryland. When I was calling begging for assistance on January 6th, they weren't allowed to respond at first. Look at Governor Hogan. He did a press conference saying he was begging to respond and he was not being denied by the Pentagon, all because of the memo. So why? You know, you begin to wonder why, and especially when you look at things like something that I recently came across when you talk about the military, General Millie, you know, we're now finding out. And it's not, not for me. This is from Carol Lenning, you know, investigative reporter with The Washington Post, has found that he was using data miner on his own coming across intelligence. Tell us what data miner is.
Starting point is 00:41:19 So data miner is an intelligence platform. It's not something your average citizen would have on their computer. I guess it goes in and does crawling across webs. I'm not really sure. how it works. But it's not your, it's an intelligence platform. He's picking up intelligence talking about killing members of Congress and attacking the United States Capitol. And he's not telling me. He's telling select members of Congress. I mean, Carolina writes about it in her book. And data minor, by the way, for those that do not understand what I was talking about where the FBI and intelligence had basically everyone that was coming in and out of Washington, what they were talking about, who they were talking to, who they were with. This is data minor.
Starting point is 00:41:56 So if you guys want to know if the FBI or intelligence can listen or see every single thing you do, this is what they use. And it's so much more advanced now than it probably was then, especially when you have companies like Oracle and Palantir and all these other companies that are centralizing all this information. And now they're using this very, very advanced AI system to be able to look at any and everything. So even as a government, you could look at people that, you know, like us or a podcast that maybe criticizes the government or criticizes the government or criticizes the, another government or whatever. And then you put all these people in a group and you say, all right, well, these are the people that are kind of maybe our enemies and you're, you're almost on a watch list already.
Starting point is 00:42:35 You know, you think back to like the 9-11 stuff and when there were people that were put on watch lists for various reasons. But now I think there are so many different lists that our intelligence has people on. So if you do a podcast or maybe you're talking to your friend or if you guys have ever been talking to someone in your house about something or maybe your friend is talking to you about something and then there's an ad that comes up on your phone literally 10 minutes later on Facebook or Instagram or something else. Well, they kind of use data minor the same way. If your phone, if Facebook and Instagram and all of these software programs can utilize your
Starting point is 00:43:11 microphone to listen to everything that you're saying and doing and then utilize that for marketing conversions, then think about how much our intelligence actually is able to listen to or see. They can listen and see every single thing we are doing, and we have zero privacy in this country. The only way you're going to have privacy anymore is if you go in the middle of the woods, probably in a cave, because I almost guarantee you there are satellites that can also listen and probably read your text matches as you're texting. If they want to, yeah, they could. Right. But January 6th, everybody that was coming in and out of Washington, D.C., they had, you know, the triangular cell phone data of every phone. and don't think they weren't listening to phone calls of those people as well.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Yeah, they were. I mean, this was a geo-fencing type deal. This is why it makes, you know, being a killer anymore very hard. You know, if you're someone that's going to kill somebody and you have any trace of your phone near you during that time or whatever the case is, or if you just do something differently, maybe you just left your phone out home. Yeah, or whatever. They can use that as evidence, right?
Starting point is 00:44:19 And they say, well, look, guys, you've never done this until this night that this happened. right so whereas you may not have taken your phone to the scene of the crime but maybe the way that you utilized your phone during that time was different and they could literally use that as evidence in a case against you and these are all the things that we have to think about now in some ways that's good we we want technology like this to be able to go after people that are in our country that want to kill americans or kill our or destroy our government or you know foreign actors like China, Russia, spies, you name it. But I think what this January 6th thing does more than anything, it shows that CIA, for example,
Starting point is 00:44:59 which is supposed to not operate within the United States of America, although we know that they do, since JFK and many other, you know, I even believe that, you know, Operation Northwoods, also during JFK, where we wanted to tack our own Americans in terrorist attacks and blame it on Cuba, then to go and invade. these are false flag events. But CIA is supposed to actually go work abroad to protect the homeland. But I think what this shows likely is with the January 6 case, CIA was very likely involved. I think that they were obviously operating within U.S. soil.
Starting point is 00:45:37 And I think that that is why they move this Capitol Police officer, that if she is the one. And she, by the way, there's been some people refer to this person as a guy. But it's because she has very short hair. She looks like a lot of, there's a lot of women police officers that have very, very short hair, kind of that more manly build and that manly look. This is what she looks like. So I just wanted to point that out because there is some articles out there talking about that they were on to a potential male suspect in this. But she does kind of look like a male. The other thing I want to also talk about is the fact that what Steve said here earlier where he was talking about,
Starting point is 00:46:17 I'm just a journalist. It's not like I have billions of dollars in resources and technology to be able to figure out who this person is. It's just that he has basically every waking moment of his life and especially since his arrest and because of his arrest and because of the way that he felt the government was screwing him over, he desperately felt like he needed to get to the bottom of some of this stuff and prove like, was this a setup, wasn't it inside job or was it not? and so he busted his ass he did have some contacts within certain parts of the government that also
Starting point is 00:46:52 helped him with this that should tell you though that the FBI cash Matt von gino and them and pan bondi you know they've been in office now over a year or close to a year i guess now i mean coming up on january he was elected november but you know we've not heard anything about the january 6 pipe bomber and i would assume that if you have the full authority and power of the FBI as you do cash Patel that we would be able to figure this out we'd be able to either make an arrest or release a story or a suspect or something and we've we've seen nothing we've seen nothing from them the same thing same way as january 6th and a lot of people are saying well this just kind of makes me think that all of them are the same you know just because we have
Starting point is 00:47:37 a cash betel in does that mean that he is working really on behalf of the american people and a lot of people just do not believe that now it's going to be interesting It's going to be very interesting to see how Cash Patel and them come out about this, right? Because what is he going to say? Is he going to verify this story? Is he going to take the credit for this story? Because that's what a lot of people think. They're going to somehow figure out a way to flip it and take the credit.
Starting point is 00:48:03 And they're going to say because of our amazing women and men of the FBI, we were able to track down the pipe bomb suspect. I can already hear it now. Yeah, I can hear it too. And I have to say that he has been. very thin. You know, he's in this place and that place and this place. But he's actually not in charge of any of these places that he's doing the job. You know, there's other people that are in charge, but he shows up and he kind of stands
Starting point is 00:48:30 in the back and lets everyone else talk. I don't ever see him take charge of really anything going on. And, you know, I just thought that he would do better than this, what he's doing. And I would think on behalf of president. Trump, President Trump out of anybody would want to get to the bottom of the January 6th thing. Yeah. Well, and I think what you're saying, too, is just all the stuff. I mean, even with the Charlie Kirk assassination and some of the other, I guess, things that have happened since Cash Patel's been in.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Yeah, it's weird. He kind of lets everybody else take charge. And then he'll usually get up there, have some kind of prewritten speech that says a bunch of crazy stuff. And he'll talk about Valhalla and whatever. but, you know, it's always speeches rather than try, it almost seems like rather than being a leader of the FBI, that's very transparent. I think a lot of people are not seeing that right now, but I want to get to some more of this interview with Stevenson, because he goes a little deeper.
Starting point is 00:49:26 This is all very important to what we're talking about on the January 6 pipe bomber. That's concerning as hell, because as the chief of police, you know, there's a duty to warn there, and I should be told so I can take the necessary action. I don't know who else he was telling, but he sure wasn't telling me. again, what could possibly be the explanation for that? You know, I'm not really sure. But you've done this for over 30 years. You're very familiar.
Starting point is 00:49:54 You've been law enforcement in D.C., specifically for over 30 years. So you know how the city runs, you know how the federal agencies respond to protest. This is not the first violent protest. Not at all. There have been many. I've done many national special security events. And this was handled differently. No, you know, the intelligence, no jib, no.
Starting point is 00:50:11 coordination, no discussion in advance. It's almost like they wanted to be watered down. The intelligence can be watered down for some reason. I talked about a little bit in the book that maybe they were concerned for the Trump invoking the Insurrection Act and they're worried about that, but I've had people, you know, there's those other thoughts out there. But luckily, we still have people investigating this because I still think there's puzzle pieces missing. Someone's going to find out what's really behind all this. Because it wasn't right, the way the intelligence was handled and way out, we're set up on the hill. Big picture, just to restate, you've seen many things like this,
Starting point is 00:50:46 and as you just said, this was very different. This was handled very differently. By whom? By the intelligence. I'd say one by the intelligence agency, two by the military. So the reason why I say the military, think of this. By federal law, you know, Congress passed a law that requires me to go to the two, to the Sergeant Arms, Capitol Police Board, in advance of an event, and to request,
Starting point is 00:51:10 federal resources such as the National Guard. So Congress passed a law. It's two U.S. Code 1970. Look it up. Just make sure you look it up before December 22 when they changed it. So what was in effect on the 6th? That requires me to go and get approval for bringing in National Guard or federal assistance in advance. I have to go to the Capitol Police Board and get approval from congressional leadership in advance. Like I did on January 3rd, I'm denied twice because of optics and because... I want to pause for a second because, as he said, not very long after that. They changed this to where he could have done this, but it was just like a week or two later. What they wanted it to look like was he could have done it.
Starting point is 00:51:47 He just did it. But that was not in law during the time that he was actually in. He could not just call the National Guard upon himself. He had to go through this chain of command. And then they changed it like two or three weeks after this. Of course they did. But intelligence didn't support it. So think about that. Let me ask you who made that decision. Who denied you? I was denied by Paul Irving, House Sergeant Arms, and also Mike Stinger, Senate Sergeant Arms. And who did they work for? Who do they work for? It would have been working for Pelosi on the House side, that police was the number one boss, and then McConnell on the Senate side.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Ah. So effectively, Mitch McConnell and Nancy Pelosi shut down your request? My request was shut down, one, because of optics, which is interesting. You're going to hear that term come up a couple more times. Optics, or the look of the National Guard on the Hill. But yeah, and the Capitol Police Board, I mean, it's unbelievable that I'm the only Chief of Police in the United States that has a law preventing me, not just regulations, rules that say I've got to go and need approval to bring in the National Guard a law. So that's crazy that Congress is going to pass a law that controls what I can do to protect the Capitol and even in emergency. So think of this, even while we're under attack, I have to go to those same two people to request the National Guard to be brought in.
Starting point is 00:53:02 I have 340 National Guard that have been activated, at least 150 to 100. 180 of those are in the city, many of them within eye side of the capital. Okay? We got to come under attack at 1253. 1255, I called the Washington, D.C. police department. I talked to their assistant chief, Jeff Carroll. Thank God I had talked to them at 1059 in the morning and asked him if he could possibly put some additional resource on Constitution Avenue. And he had some CDU platoons up there.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Called him, said, hey, please send those in right away. Because we knew as soon as they came up to their west front, they started attack, it was going to be bad. 1258, I make my first call to the Sergeant Arms asking, saying, hey, it's bad. we need assistance, I need a declaration of emergency, I need to bring in the military immediately and federal resources. I'm told by Paul Irving, quote, I'm going to run up the chain, I'll get back to you. The chain is Pelosi. The chain is, his chain would be up to Nancy Pelosi. He didn't have to do that, but he wouldn't give me authorization. The law says, in mercy, he can grant me authorization, but he didn't. He said he'd run up the chain. My next call was over to Mike Stinger. He's now with
Starting point is 00:54:00 the chairman of the Capitol Police Board, told him the same thing, we're getting our asses handed to us on the wet front. I need federal resources. He said, what did Paul tell you? He said he's run out the chain. Let's wait to hear what we hear from Paul. Sorry. So for the next 71 minutes, I make 32 calls. I'm in the command center. I'm calling my partner agencies. And by law, you know, one of the first people offer assistance was United States Secret Service. And by law, I shouldn't have requested their assistance. You know, I shouldn't be until I had approval. But I'm looking at my men and women having their asses handed to them. And my first thought was fuck it, I will take whatever discipline there is. Send me whatever you got.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Now, that's the one tech secret service turned over. You know, how they lost all their text? Yes. It's the text between their chief, Chief Sullivan and myself. Thank God for him. I don't, so you make this call immediately to the House Sergeant Arms who reports Mr. Irving, who reports Nancy Pelosi. He says, I'll call Pelosi. He says, I'm running up the chain. Run it up the chain, but that is the chain. I hear you. I got you. I want to tell you exactly what you said. So what happens then? Does he get back to you? So for the next 71 minutes, I make the 32 calls to tie on a number of agencies.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Eleven of those calls are follow-up calls. And look in the Senate combined report from 2001. They have a great infographic of the call after call, after call, after call. 11 times I call the next 71 minutes going, where are we on the approval? Where are we in the approval? Just any minute now, any minute, I'm going to get any minute. Finally, at 209, 71 minutes later, 209, I'm finally given approval. Think about that. 71 minutes later, I immediately call Mike Stinger, say we've got approval. I was so pissed off.
Starting point is 00:55:38 I made sure that the watch commander. I'm in the command center. I yelled to John, wish him, the lieutenant. That's my watch commander. I said, John, mark the time as 210. I finally got approval for the National Guard. I was that mad. So what is the, I just want to pause on this for a minute.
Starting point is 00:55:51 That's almost unbelievable. So this is an event that Pelosi herself is likened to Pearl Harbor in 9-11. You know, the worst thing that's ever happened on Americans. soil and she's in charge of allowing the National Guard to come in and respond, but she doesn't for 71 minutes. What is that? You know, I can't fathom why. I mean, they had to have known what was going on. I was telling them how bad it was. It was on TV. It was on TV. It was right outside of Mike Stinger's office. And they had a meeting in his office saying, hey, where's the National Guard? They're like, how we're trying to make the fighting is going on right outside his office. And I'm still getting
Starting point is 00:56:28 delayed. This is an unbelievable story. Oh, it is. I get a kick out of that. Wait, has anyone ever explained this? It's verbatim in my book. I have details. The whole chapter on January 6th is almost 100 pages long. But I don't understand. So we're only 10 minutes into this, and you've told me two things.
Starting point is 00:56:46 One, the other federal agencies withheld critical information from you in charge of security at the Capitol before January 6th. And once it started and things got out of control, for 71 minutes, Pelosi refused to allow you to bring in the National Guard. So those are just, those are two of the biggest questions from January 6th. And my question is, why don't we have answers to why that happened? It doesn't seem like people really want to get to the bottom of it. It really, it really doesn't.
Starting point is 00:57:13 It, and it just gets worse. It gets worse from there. I'm sorry to step on your story. I just, it's shocking. It is. It is shocking to think. It is shocking, actually. And, you know, with what he's saying here, Chief Stephen's Sund, and that's why we had to do a
Starting point is 00:57:29 podcast on this back in the day because it was an obvious inside job. I think there were people at the U.S. Capitol building that didn't 100% understand the gravity of the situation that then once the doors were open, kind of once that initial line had been breached where Capitol Police was hitting people in the face with rubber bullets and there were people breaking windows and you got to think about how many people were at this event, this protest, riot, whatever you want to call it. there were a lot of people that once the doors were open and literally there are videos of cops just ushering people in.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Yeah. Being ushered on the red carpet. Yeah. With the little gold bars where they walked in between on the red carpet line by line. It wasn't like they were rushing the Capitol. They were being. It was like a tour. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:19 They were being ushered in. Is exactly what it was. And that's, but that's not how the media portrayed it. Right. The media portrayed it as a violent insurrection. and although I do believe that there was a lot of violence that day. I mean, I think that there were clashes with Capitol Police. I think that there were windows broken.
Starting point is 00:58:38 I think there were things that happened that looked very bad for the people that were there. But how many of those people that were violently reacting at this protest, breaking the windows, you know, getting through the windows, fighting with police, how many of those were plants? How many of those people were actual government employees, CIA, FBI, whoever, from what we have found out, I guess, over the past like six months to a year, that we know that there was at least, I believe, 180 FBI informants in the crowd, likely more. And we're just talking about FBI. We're not even talking about CIA assets.
Starting point is 00:59:13 We're not talking about other potentially even security contracted assets from the federal government. We just don't know. We have no idea. And this is not just, you know, Republicans are not just immune to this. It happens in Black Lives Matter, protest and riots. It happens in Antifa riots. And I don't even think in all cases where you would see these massive pallets of bricks show up at some of these protests across the country that we saw during the BLM and the Summer of Love.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Yes, a lot of that was being heavily funded and organized by the Soros, the Open Society Foundation, other globalist agencies. But I also believe that potentially the government had a part and play in that coordination and effort as well. And I'll tell you, one of their ways that they used to do it, I remember during the BLM riots and stuff, where if you were Republican or conservative or someone that was pro-Trump or anti-vaccine or just trying to call out the bullshit on COVID or any of this stuff, you know, you were banned or censored on social media. But yet, if you were Antifa or a Black Lives Matter group that was planning a violent protest or a burning down of cities across the country, Facebook and Instagram would literally let you have groups to where you use. could go and coordinate all this shit together. And yet if you had groups about pro-Trump or conservative movements or any of that stuff, you were banned or censored. No one will be able to find your group.
Starting point is 01:00:35 This is how they utilized social media. This is how they utilized mainstream media. This is how they utilized everybody. The government always controls the narrative. So whereas we, of course, understand and completely agree that the Open Society Foundation, NGOs and the globalists 100% have a stake in what happens in our country. fund a lot of our far left, whether it be prosecutors or judges. But keeping in mind, the government also assist these globalists.
Starting point is 01:01:06 They assist these. It's not like they're working against the George Soros. It's not like they're working against the Open Society Foundation. There's a reason why George Soros's son visited the White House. I think it was 42 times during the Biden-Harris administration, 42 times. And then also you have, you know, the picture of Soros' son. You have a picture of him with Bam Dami. He's always there where he wants to up in and destroy America, right?
Starting point is 01:01:32 That's where he's at in the White House, 40-something times, 40 meetings at the White House with someone. Likely wasn't Biden because obviously Biden didn't understand what the hell it was going on. Probably wasn't even Kamala because she would just sit there and laugh and have no idea what was going on. Whoever that Soros was meeting with in the White House was whoever the leader of the deep state probably is. There's someone in there. Yeah, and they had a plan and that plan was to do what they did. And even going back to where some of the stuff was violent, for example, the doors where Ashley Babbitt was going through the window shot by Chuck Schumer security as she was like halfway
Starting point is 01:02:10 in the window and halfway out the window. Yeah. But it was like a, you know, if you go to a concert and there's shots fired or something and how everybody's trying to leave, this is kind of what was happening to her. She was being pushed up the stairs. She was at the very end of the. the very top part of the stairs where the if you get to the top of the stairs you go left or straight ahead is that like kind of window that has the, um, that has kind of like the barrier
Starting point is 01:02:33 in between it. And she being pushed up there. She wasn't even really climbing. I don't necessarily think, but she had to kind of get out of the way because she was about to be crushed. And as she did that, that's when Chuck Schumer, I guess we find out now that Chuck Schumer's security guard actually shot and killed her. And I just want to remind everybody on that day, January 6th, that was the only person.
Starting point is 01:02:54 that lost their life due to violence. Yeah, that was. I mean, there was other people, I guess, had strokes or whatever they say. After the fact, we don't 100% know. But what we do seem to know is that this was 100% an inside job. Now, I want to play this very, very quick clip. This was Dan Bongino back in the day talking about this. Actually, it was literally right before that he became the deputy director of the FBI because
Starting point is 01:03:20 Cash Rattel was already in. But this is what he had to say about it. Listen, on his show. It seems bizarre to me that the FBI continues to manipulate the American public about this case. The phone records saying they didn't have the phone records that they were corrupted. When the phone company said they weren't corrupted, they have all this video that appears to be manipulated. And you seem to hint that they may know the identity of this person. They just don't want you to know.
Starting point is 01:03:44 I believe that is the case. Can we get an answer between you, Pam Bondi, and hopefully Cash Patel, on who this person is and have the FBI open the books? because I believe this is a huge scandal and a massive cover-up. I think we will, and I think we're going to find out about Ray Epps, and I think we're going to find out about Skaffold Man. You know who Scaffold Man is, right? Yeah, yeah, there go. So that was Dan Bongino talking to Trump,
Starting point is 01:04:08 and this was before that he was actually put in as deputy director. So I also want to play Ryan Mata. And this is what Ryan Matt had to say about the FBI cover-up. But in specific, I guess Ryan, Ryan's kind of been with Candice Owens, especially during this Charlie Kirk investigation. And so Ryan Mata has 100% completely lost any faith in this administration at all. So I always want to kind of play every angle, right? We have one side of it that we hope and pray that Trump and his administration and Cash Patel and Pan Bonny and everybody's going to do the right thing and make sure that we see this through, this investigation with Steve's work.
Starting point is 01:04:45 Here's what Ryan Mata had to say about this. Here you go. Gosh, homie, you ain't covering this one up no matter how hard you try. This was the biggest intelligence operation, the biggest SIOP ever carried out on the American people. Let me tell you the scale and what type of cover-up we're talking about. This just blows water, get out of the goddamn water. You're talking about the CIA, the FBI, the DOJ, and our DOD, the Department of War, if you will. Okay?
Starting point is 01:05:11 So when I tell you that Kach Patel had the opportunity to put all of this in Biden's lap and he had the opportunity to take down the entire deep state, when Trump finds out about this cover up, holy shit, he is going to lose his shit. because we're talking about the Department of Defense using directed energy weapons. Steve Baker broke that. Remember, they were using the frequencies to attack and rile up the crowd. Then you have the D.C. Capitol police officers who opened fire on the crowd. Then you have the FBI who was dressed up. They were carrying out bus loads, delivering bus loads of people.
Starting point is 01:05:38 245 agents undercover dressed as Trump supporters to go and insinuate violence and rile up the crowd. While at the same time, they had the DOJ, Merrick Garland, and then prosecuting innocent American citizens. and then they had the J6 pipe bomber herself, the agent who planted that pipe bomb, was testifying in court hearings and sentencing our boys to insanely length amount of prison time. They put Tario in prison for 22 years
Starting point is 01:06:05 and he wasn't even there because this was all one big mastermind. Remember, it was a January 6th in in direction to overthrow a government. And these people, some of them haven't even been pardoned yet, Trump. So maybe you should think about pulling your head out of your ass and holding this asshole accountable. He should be charged.
Starting point is 01:06:20 right there with Merrick Garland, Chris Ray. When this thing all blows up, Cash Patel and Bongino should be getting charged right along with all of the other scumbags who are involved in this. They are no different. They don't get a fucking pass. I'm so pissed off right now. These scumbags are out here going in ISIS, the terrorist attacks on the FBI. When I tell you that the false flag is coming in, it's going to be on a monumental fucking scale,
Starting point is 01:06:39 you have no fucking idea how big it's going to be. It has to be. Because this shit, this cover up now on top of the Charlie Kirk assassination, holy shit. Check out this clip from Alex Jones. Thomas Massey. the FBI CIA Capitol Police arrest the scandal. Today would be good.
Starting point is 01:06:53 So the good news is the blaze broke this Thursday. We already knew it. They were willing to do it. Now, oh, we're going to wait until next week. Dang, getting out of this. And there's much worse stuff about to come out. I mean, look at this person. This video featuring her was uploaded on YouTube
Starting point is 01:07:15 November 2014 when she was playing soccer for Temple. obviously autistic in my opinion another Marinus van der Lube who did the fire bombing of the Ryshtag in February 27th, 1933 to bring Hitler to power. It's a Marinus Vanderlub but the bomb was planted right where Kamala Harris was obviously to make her a victim
Starting point is 01:07:39 but it didn't happen. Why did that happen? And then we've got all the photos right here. So this is the story. not oh we can't wait for the white house to cover it up i can assure you trump doesn't know about this yeah there you go and she was a patsy that's what this person likely was she played soccer for temple university uh there have been supports like ryan matted us say that she was potentially autistic she then left temple university went up through the ranks and it sounds like they utilized her for this special mission to plant pipe bombs now i would tell you that i think
Starting point is 01:08:17 they meant for these pipe bombs to go off. I don't, I don't know why it didn't happen. I know that they reported that these were perfectly viable pipe bombs, but I think they meant for these to go off. They didn't go off. This is a battle, guys. You know, when we talk about on the podcast all the time that there is a battle going on right now and is still going on.
Starting point is 01:08:38 And there's a lot of people that reach out to us and say, look, you know, I hope and pray that Trump is just, you know, he's got all this stuff working behind the scenes and we're going to see it. but you know as Alex Jones just says there and Alex Jones is as we've talked about many times is not someone to go against Trump or criticize Trump because Trump did help him so far I don't know how much he's going to help him but Trump has helped him a decent amount he does have a direct ear into Trump. Alex Jones has had that for many many years but now even Alex Jones is starting to have to come out and start to say things about this and we are at a pivotal moment in the history of
Starting point is 01:09:13 the United States or America are 250 year anniversary coming up that will democracy last more than that or not everybody's against everybody. They're turning to everybody against everybody. And there's going to be some people that are going to pay some heavy prices. Charlie Kirk was one of them. JFK was one of them back in a day. But I think there's about to be a lot more people that are speaking out that have huge platforms that better really, really start watching their ass. And it's not just because of Israel or because of whatever. There's this back. And you see it. You see it with one side of the Republicans versus the other.
Starting point is 01:09:48 You see obviously with Democrats versus the right. We're going to see how it unfolds. You know, will it unfold the way that we hope it will, which is that Cash Patel, Pam Bondi, and Trump, they hold this person accountable and they release actual information. They are transparent with America. They have an opportunity right now. You know, you have Steve and you have the Blaze and you have all of these guys that have presented this report, the official article is out now. You have the article out there. You have the
Starting point is 01:10:18 high degree of certainty that it was this person and that the CIA potentially was involved, but 100% capital police and inside job. What will Cash Patel and Dan Bongino and Pam Bondi and Trump do? How will they handle this? Or will they just cover it up? Because I think it's going to be very hard for them to cover it up at this point. But I would think if I were Trump, I would want to get to the bottom of it. Yeah, absolutely. Who knows? No, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:10:47 But this is where we're going to find out. Yeah. Is that like is is is is is cash Patel really being controlled or are they going to pivot it to where it's like cash Patel and the FBI are going to try to take credibility for this report or for this finding of who it was? Are they going to say there's nothing to see here? Yeah. Or are they going to say, well, no, we don't believe this because this isn't happen and
Starting point is 01:11:10 this isn't happening. If you see that, then obviously, the FBI still covering further on ass. The CIA, the, you know, the deep state is still covering and they still control these people. Or do, are they going to have no choice but to come out and say, you know, Cash Patel says, look, because of the incredible men and women of the FBI, we have found the pipe bomber. Finally, we have been investigating this for months. We didn't want to move on it yet. But now this reports out. Now we're going to show you everything. This is what our investigators uncovered. Are they going to do that? I don't know. We will all.
Starting point is 01:11:42 be ready to see what they say. I would think probably maybe this week they're going to have to respond. I think the next episode, Jerry, we're going to do is the, we have to do the feral people because we've tried to do this like three times. We've talked about it on another podcast. There's some people out there that kind of reach out and they say,
Starting point is 01:12:00 we're kind of tired of politics. And I was like, I get it. I mean, I 100% get it. But we've covered a lot of the Charlie Kirk stuff. And although, yes,
Starting point is 01:12:07 it somewhat does go back to politics. It is, you know, we also can't. overlook this stuff. We can't quit talking about the Charlie Kirk assassination because, you know, it was a couple of months ago now. You know, we can't say, well, that's done for and over with. I mean, yeah, we're going to move past that right now, but just keeping in mind, any new information that we have or we see, we're going to talk about it. Same thing with
Starting point is 01:12:30 the Epstein stuff, which we do actually have new information on the Epstein files, on the Epstein case. And I want to talk about that very soon because I think it's huge. And then I also want to get into feral people because we didn't really do a lot of like Halloween spooky stuff. I kind of want to still do that now. As you guys know, and especially as much as we see on mainstream media and in podcast and even in podcasts like ours, you know, talking about politics and talking about all the corruption and all the crazy stuff that goes on on the everyday basis, it gets tiring, it gets tough, it gets mentally draining in some ways. And it does for us for sure. I know it's very important. I know it's important to talk about. But also sometimes we've got to have a little fun.
Starting point is 01:13:11 We got to get into some of the stuff that, like, really, we love doing on this podcast, you know, like, whether it be aliens or ancient civilizations or all this stuff. So we want to get more involved and back into some of that as well. So, Chad, are you saying that potentially hikers that get murdered by feral people is fun? No. That's my type of fun. Well, Sherry, I mean, you do watch, like, serial killer stuff all the time. But, yeah, I mean, there's a lot of weird stuff that happens in the place that. grew up in and not just in the Appalachian Mountains, but also, you know, out west and out in some of these
Starting point is 01:13:46 desert canyons and places that people go hiking and they disappear never to be seen again. Now, I'm not saying there's necessarily feral people out there. If you go kind of follow the missing 411 series, I think a lot of what they potentially believe is that maybe us UFO related, right? But I think around our area in the south, they blame it on feral people. Well, yeah, there's a lot of old tales in the mountains of Appalachian. mountains where the people that live in the haulers, the people that live very far out of civilization, you know, I have family that lives in some of these hollards and some of these places.
Starting point is 01:14:22 And it's a different world there. It is a completely different world. And there are people that I know or sometimes maybe even related to that might be closer to feral than you would imagine. But there is tales of actual feral people that just once escaped civilization and live on their own and they don't want anybody at all to come into their territory. Or do they want people to come in there so they can kidnap them? Well, there's, you know, well, there's tells they're cannibals, right?
Starting point is 01:14:49 And this is really no different in some ways than some of the tribes out in the Amazon rainforest in South America or some of the tribes in Africa. Don't think that there isn't potentially tribes that actually still exist in the Appalachians where there are thousands of acres to where nobody ever goes to, you know. And the more I've thought about it. and the more I've looked into stuff, there's a lot of reasoning behind national parks. Oftentimes, national parks are created to hide things to where they can control that land.
Starting point is 01:15:19 They can't necessarily build on that land, but they want to control it. They want to hide certain parts of it from you. And so we'll get into that on a very near episode. So make sure you hit follow. Make sure you share our episode far and wide with anybody you possibly can because right now we are kind of going through a little bit of a battle. People do not necessarily agree if we criticize this or criticize that. but we're doing our very best to try to get the truth out there.
Starting point is 01:15:41 And we do appreciate every single one of you for following us and your support. It means the world to us completely. We are on all the social media. Please go follow us. If you want to reach out to us, please do as long as it's nice. Because if it's not nice, then I'm not going to respond to you. And so it doesn't matter. I'll just block.
Starting point is 01:15:58 We're kind of past that, you know. Well, that's what I was going to tell you earlier on the podcast is when we're talking about, you know, some of the hate that we get. We're always going to get hate. And if you don't get hate, that means you're not doing your job. But the hate we do get, you have to sometimes just ignore it. I was listening to Joe Rogan a long time ago. And he said he has not read one message that people have set him because of that fact because he just can't deal with it.
Starting point is 01:16:25 And he's not going to deal with it. Yeah. He lets his staff do that. Unfortunately, we don't have a big staff to do that. But I'm just going to tell you, Chad, if you see in the first sentence something mean or whatever, just don't open it. No, it's all good. I mean, and that's the thing. Like, we're here to provide a service. Not everybody's going to agree with us all the time for sure.
Starting point is 01:16:44 But the one thing I hope that people take from us is that we're doing our very best to try to be as truthful as we possibly can. And we're actually trying to be the least bias as possible, even though sometimes it's hard. And when it is hard, you guys know it. I mean, you guys know it. You guys always tell us like, well, you're biased on this and you're biased. And when we are, we at least admit that, right? So that's all I'm going to say. We're going to play it out with the chase.
Starting point is 01:17:07 And until next time, guys, we love you. Peace out. Peace out, guys. Stop. Stop.

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