Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Joe Rogan & Dr. Michael Osterholm Interview Reaction & Thoughts

Episode Date: February 19, 2022

Today, Joe Rogan released his first Covid related podcast episode with Dr. Michael Osterholm since all of the Covid "misinforation" controversy. We have some thoughts on how this interview went, and what we believe could have been done much better.

There's something about your face. Can't stop looking you. Welcome to Investigator, the podcast. I'm yours, Chad, alongside my wife, Sherry. Of 10 years. Hello, hello. Of 10 years. Today.

I'm going to start saying, hello, hello. Guys, we lied. We lied. We have one more for you. We weren't going to have one more for you, but. We're not starting our anniversary until tomorrow. Well, yeah, tomorrow. Today has been our chill day.

It's been a long week. And so Sherry was tired. I was tired. And we're like, you know what? We're going to start tomorrow. which we kind of figured it would start tomorrow anyway, but we still thought we were going to take a break from the podcast tonight, but we're not.

So this won't probably be as long as usual, but I have said that before, and it usually is. So, sorry. Sorry for you, people that just hate us, they're listening.

You're like, I fucking hate these people. Why are they still on for an hour? He said it's going to be 30 minutes. It's an hour and a half. You know what's funny about our podcast? It's so hilarious to me. There's one thing is like, we've had repetitive haters.

People that like, I've noticed like a few names. You know, like we have so many people that write in and say how good of a job we're doing or whatever. And we appreciate that, by the way. And we appreciate all love for our anniversary, those of you to know. But it is also funny. Like, isn't it funny where people like the same person will like, yeah, listen to your latest podcast fucking sucks. Yeah, the last episode. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. And then the one before that, it was. shitty too. And you're just a dick. Yeah. And I'm like, I don't ever see. Why are you still listening then?

I know. Well, you listen to every episode. You only show me the good comments. Oh, I don't see it. Yeah, because I don't usually look at the bad comments.

But, um, but you know, it's like a lot of other, there was something about social media. It was some kind of meme about, you know, just people get on social media just to be dicks. Yeah.

Well, no, you're talking about the video. Like, there's a video on YouTube. And it's like, it's like, what if social media or YouTube was like you're a real life job? Like, like, you know, a real life. Oh, yeah, that was it. Yeah. Yeah, so it has this guy. And by the way, I'll shout his channel.

His name is Bobo on YouTube. And I think he's from Western North Carolina, which is where I'm from. But anyways, he's a mountain bike channel. But he has a video on there and it says, what if real jobs were like YouTube or whatever? So it has this guy like sitting there in the desk And like he's doing his work and stuff And then this dude comes in like to the door And it has a big sign on his chest

It says commenter You know like as if you take YouTube And you bring it into real life So this commenter dude like walks up to the door He's like hey how's it going He's like yeah I just want to come by And just let you know you're doing a really shitty job And you're a dick

And you're an asshole And I pretty much fucking hate everything about you It was just I was tired. And it wasn't just a comment. Then Google came in. Then the algorithm came in. And they were all just like, yeah, you suck.

Yeah, sorry, you didn't do it, you know. But it is funny because like the internet is a whole different place. Oh, yeah. It's, you know, people hide behind screens on the internet. So, you know, you wouldn't ever say that to a people. Well, maybe some people would say that to people in their real life. But I think people are different people on the internet than they are in person. Yeah.

For the most part. Yeah, you're right. I mean, most of the people that just talk shit on the internet are people that are too afraid to do it in real life. Yeah. So this is where they feel big is the internet. But anyway, this isn't even about that. I don't even know how we got on this. We don't have really that many shit talkers anymore. I mean, maybe we do. I don't know. I don't read most of them. But I just thought I was, I thought that was interesting. I'm like, dude, you literally comment on every one of our episodes and tell us how shitty it is. I'm like, then why are you still listening?

Or that's like, you know, when these stars, they read off their, like, comments that are. really bad and they read it to themselves. It's so funny. We can do that one day. Like, I think that'd be funny. Because I don't care anymore. Your wife can't talk. She cannot pronounce words. Or no, they say that shit to me too. Or like, or you're an idiot

or you're an asshole or you're, you know. So I'm like, and used to, like, when we first started getting like a lot of downloads and stuff, it would bother me. But now it's just like, I just don't give a damn. I don't ever look at anything. We do our own thing. I don't see anything. So I don't know. Unless Chad's,

chose it to me. But anyway, so that's not even what this podcast is about, but we figured we would just tell you that. So, Joe Rogan, and by the way, before we get started, thank you all for listening, as we always say. Thank all of you for your support. We love each and every one of you, most of you anyway. And with the exception of those assholes that we're talking about. And, yeah, like the guys that call us dicks, you're a dick. Yeah, you should go jump off a cliff. Go jump off a building. Or you could just go and move to Canada. and get, you know, tyrannized, as I guess you call it now. By the way, we got a new article on our website,

and it goes into detail, and it kind of discusses and gives all the live updates and the videos and the live streams from the citizen journalist of what's really going on in Canada. I suggest you guys to go check that out. It's investigative earthpodcast.com. It's the main article on our website. I think it's important to go look at

because it's important to see what's really happening in Canada. And, you know, this is Canada. This is a place that we never thought would get. it to where it is, but it is. And it's, and it got there in an instant. It got there from a leader that decided to invoke an emergencies act to where he essentially created martial law within 12 hours. And so the state went from a somewhat kind of free state to a tyrannical dictatorship. And, you know, what is going on there? They're arresting everyone. They're arresting everyone. They have no warrants. They have nothing. They are cutting off bank accounts. They've already done this.

there was a convoy of tow trucks that came in, I guess, this morning. That's tow and everybody's shit. And so you're essentially sending a message that regardless of whatever the case is, you're sending a message that you either abide by our rules, our bullshit made-up rules, you know, based on the experimental vaccine, or we are going to go tyrannical on you. And this is Canada. Now, keep in mind, Joe Biden, we've talked about this before. He has encouraged this.

He encouraged Trudeau and the government of Canada to go full federal on their asses and, you know, be the, be the gangster, the federal gangsters. Yeah, let's show these motherfuckers who's boss. And that's pretty much what the governments do nowadays. I mean, if you, if you don't agree with, say, an experimental, experimental medical treatment or if you don't agree even with, you know, your kids getting vaccinated in some place in the United States like Los Angeles County, you can't go to school unless you're vaccinated. there are all these things that are going on. I know Australia is fighting a tough battle over there, which by the way, for those of you, for the lawyers that are listening, and I talked them forever, by the way.

We finally connected, and their attorneys over in Australia, and they are human rights attorneys. And so we're going to have them on the podcast very, very soon. We've got to get them on soon, and I need to reach back out to them. They actually sent me a message today. Because by the end of our conversation, I was a little buzzed that night.

So I'm just glad they, I'm glad they reached back out. And Chad's like, you need to listen. I'm like, Chad. Well, they'll be, but they have an Australian accent, which I love Australian accents, by the way. It's awesome. I love them. Like, that's one of my favorite accents, probably.

Probably. I mean, I like pretty much all accents, but. What do you say, hey, mate? Mate, yeah. But anyway, so what's going on Australia? Go check it out. Go read it on our website. It's very important to, I think that you just at least need to see, recognize, and understand what's going on.

and then also want to talk about if you guys want to reach out to us reach out to us on Facebook we answer most messages are pretty much all of them and we're on Gitter Truth Social is going to be coming out we're going to be on that as soon as it comes out I think it's was slated to come out in March truth social is Donald Trump's new platform and we're not going on it because it's Donald Trump but you know hopefully this platform is going to compete I mean

Facebook just lost $500 billion pretty much that's that's what mark Zuckerberg has invested turning Facebook into meta and he's even doing dumbass shit with his employees saying like you're my meta mates now and all this weird shit and it's like it's like you're in Disney but it's like Disney hell

it's called meta oh shit we're we're in meta yeah you're my meta mate yeah it's just sad that like so many of these companies have lost a lot of money in stocks But you know what?

But you know what the funny thing is about the meta thing is I think it was supposed to happen. I think it was a coordinated effort from Facebook Mark Zuckerberg themselves. Because the reality is that for some reason, something about the loss of money from Facebook has allowed them to skirt past the antitrust laws, which is something to do with some kind of antitrust government deal that was, you know, I, I don't know the 100% details. But what I did here is that because they lost so much money and then their net worth was far lower than it was, they no longer had to comply with the antitrust, which was coming up in like two weeks. Those little stinkers. No, they're assholes. So yeah, so there's that.

But anyways, so let's get to our main subject, guys. Today, Joe Rogan released a podcast. So yesterday he released one with Joey Diaz. And I like Joey Diaz. I think he's a cool cat. Joey Diaz is, I think he is pretty sure it's New Jersey. It could be New York, but I'm pretty sure he's in New Jersey. He's been a regular on the Joe Rogan podcast.

He's been a friend of Joe Rogan for a long time. He is a comedian himself. And he just kind of shoots it straight and just kind of tells you what the deal is. But so I watched that one. I was like, hey, this is a good podcast. They didn't really talk about too much, you know, controversial or anything. But then Joe Rogan today released an episode with Dr. Michael Osterholm. And Dr. Michael Osterholm is essentially a doctor that Joe Rogan featured on his podcast before.

But, you know, this is the first time Joe Rogan has talked about COVID since. Oh, the shit's gone down. Yeah, yeah, doctor. Yeah, because I, when Chad picked me up from one, work today. He was listening to Joe Rogan's podcast. I'm like, is that Joe, is that a recent podcast? And he's talking about COVID? Holy cow. Like, I didn't even think he would talk about it again after all the junk that, you know, went on and all the crap that's happening. But when you're listening to it, it was like, oh gosh. Yeah, but listen, here's the thing. Dr. Michael Osterholm is a

heavily pushed doctor epidemiologist that is loved in a darling by the the media typically. Now, we'll see what happens after this podcast, but he said and did nothing to make himself vulnerable. With the exception of mask, he talked about mask and we're going to talk about that. But this podcast is going to be our reaction to the interview. How do we think Joe Rogan did? This is like our fact check of what both of them said. Now, all Gerrogan was trying to do was just ask questions. I did find Joe Rogan's reaction on certain things different than ever before. It seems like he's being a little throttled by someone or something.

Don't know what that is, but I'm just telling you, I saw it today, and that's why we had to make a podcast on this. And it's not just that. We also know that, you know, I know that Osterholm came on there to try to, it seems like, to be a voice for the media or a voice for the narrative, in my opinion.

I'm not saying he said anything crazy. He was trying to go by, as many study or factual things that he had himself. Oh, but his researcher was in the hall. He left out so much. I know. And every time he had facts, he's like, oh, well, my researcher is right in the hall. But, you know, I can't get to them right now.

Yeah. But they did pause it. And then it was weird how they came back because Joe was like, well, this is pretty much what we found out. So we're going to talk about all that. It was painful for me to listen to because that's just, just not the Joe Rogan I know. No, it didn't seem like it to me either. I think he's trying to be not himself anymore.

I mean, I hate to say that. I freaking hate to say that because it's like, damn. But there is something else that we're going to talk about as far as what I think is going on with the internet right now, too. And this was, I actually noticed this yesterday researching, you know, subjects for certain subjects that we have coming up. And I saw something that was happening. And I was like, this is weird. Maybe it's just me. I got off.

I was like, I'm over it. Then today, as I was researching things for this particular episode today, because we knew we were probably going to do one, I was like, we need to do a response to this. The internet has gotten weird. Duck, DuckGo has gotten weird. I think Duck, Duck Go has been compromised. I think they are purging results on Duck. Go that you used to be able to find, like other results other than the narrative.

So other doctors, other studies, other scientists that had these things that they either presented, publicized, or whatever the case may be, and you can't find them now. And so DugDuckGo, I believe's compromised now. I believe. And keep in mind, contrary to what most people believe, DugDuck Go is not a search engine necessarily.

They basically pull data and searches from Google. So Google pulls, Doug Degot is basically like a feed generator, so it brings over everything from Google. Now, the thing is, is Google has a lot of what DuckDuckGo would try to bring to the forefront of articles you couldn't typically find on Google is it would search the back end of searches or the mid-range of searches and then would try to bring those higher up and it would rank them according to keywords. I don't think they're doing it now. And I don't think it's DuckDuck-Go doing it. I think it's Google blacklisting sites or specific topics that they're taking them off their platform, period.

And I noticed that in Joe's podcast today that they couldn't find information that they used to. His researcher guy, he's like, wait a minute. But they've changed it too, like to make it sound like towards their narrative. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Because he's like, no, I know these were the statistics. And I know too. And then the doctor guy, he's like, oh, well, that's old facts.

He's like, yeah, it was a month ago. Yeah, it was. Literally like three weeks ago. All right. going to play any of the podcast for you guys tonight, but listen, this is the basis of it. So Michael Osterholm is a epidemiologist. He is a professor. He's a director of the Center of Infectious Disease, Research, and Policy at the University of Minnesota.

And on November 9th, he was named a member of the president-elect Joe Biden's COVID-19 advisory board. Okay? So keep that already in mind. This guy came on here. He is the COVID-19 advisory board to Joe Biden. So who do they push the first podcast that they talk about COVID first propagandist doctor? Now, I'm not saying this doctor's not smart, but I think that the reason why Joe Rogan was so, like, not himself was because it seemed like there was a lot of power in that room and it wasn't Joe Rogan. And, I mean, regardless, this guy was wrong about a lot of facts.

Yeah, but he kept on going with. his wrong facts like you dumb ass you listen to me Joe Rogan yeah all right so let's talk about the first thing uh I believe that either I'm not necessarily saying that he was wrong about but the way that he tried to betray it is misleading was misinformation yeah because if you okay so when Joe Rogan asked him specifically about the Wuhan lab leak of COVID-19 and this doctor essentially came on there and tried to push at the beginning the narrative that well it's still very much possible this came from a bat. And then he said, I'm not ruling anything out, but we have no evidence whatsoever, no evidence whatsoever that this virus came from a lab. None.

Zero. We have nothing. And I rule in data. I rule in facts right in front of me. This is what I do. And we've not seen one stitch of evidence that this come from a lab. Okay. And I was like, well, I know that's bullshit. Like, I automatically knew that was a complete lie because I've seen. seen the data. I've seen the research. I've seen scientists and professors even from Harvard and MIT and all this shit that have basically proven there's no way that this isn't a lab

created virus or a lab gang of function virus. Right. I mean, besides the emails, by the way, because Joe also asked him about the emails between Anthony Fauci, Peter Dasick, all of them. I call them the rat

pack because they were fucking with rats and like they are like the new age pandemic rat pack. The rat pack. But those emails essentially were trying to cover up COVID. They were trying to cover up the lab leak in the emails. And so

like these were, this was Dr. Fauci and his little crew themselves. You know, these are leaked emails. But yet that's not enough. You know, he said, well, that's just circumstantial. There's no data at all that even though these guys were funding gang of function. They were funding the coronavirus

research. I mean, this is what it was. And he was talking about, oh, yeah, it, you know, it transfers from dogs and cats to humans and back to dogs and cats. But here's the problem. Okay. So, yeah. So this is what he said. He said, look, the fact that we've seen deer and all these other animals get COVID, right, is also kind of a reason why we can't rule out that the fact that came from a bat. Well, that's not true.

Because let me explain something. Gang of Function Research, they had to literally put in both molecular, de, you know, DNAs from a bat and then from a person. And then they injected this into a rat that was humanized with ACE2 receptors. So when we talk about humanized mice, all they have to do is they have to insert or breed these mice to have ace two receptors in their lungs. Okay. That's all you have to do. It's not saying that their lungs are exactly like humans.

It's saying that their lungs now officially operate and can either obtain. a virus, shed a virus, whatever the case is, the exact same way that human would be able to. Because if you're engineering a virus to attack ACE2 receptors, which we know for a fact that COVID-19 did, this is how it enters your cells, this is how it really infects your lungs. Well, they've read these mice. This is not a conspiracy. You can look it up. This is literally what they do. They admit this. Well, I don't know if you can look it up now. Yeah, but you should be able to. The ACE2 receptors, I mean, he even said this himself today. So, you know, they breed these mice with ACE2 receptors.

And so then they take this virus. They put in the bat. They put in the human genome. And then they combine those to where, and then they fuck with that a little bit. And then they put it in the mice. And they keep seeing what it's going to take until it infects the ACE2 receptor, which is the same thing the human body would accept, right? And so they do this on mice.

And that's gang of function. They take two different things. They figure out a way to make it infectious to a human. And by the way, every time you, you do that in history of viral gang of function in any shape, form or fashion, it's always deadly. It's always more

deadly than anything you're going to bring it from. It's never going to be the same. So, the Wuhan bombshell, let me just talk about this Wuhan thing that he said there's no evidence of. So Chinese scientists did create COVID and reverse engineered disease to cover tracks with bat theory. This new

study shows. And so, the report alleges that China then reverse-engineered versions of the disease to make it seem like it was naturally sourced from bats. So a Dutch and British scientist suspect researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Biology are responsible for the spread of the COVID disease, but also attempted to cover it up. So Dr. Berger Sorensen cited peculiarities in COVID-19 samples that wouldn't be possible unless it was manipulated. And by the way, these are not the only scientists and doctors that have said this already.

There were scientists in Israel that have done the same thing. There were scientists, I believe, actually, even in Australia. There were scientists in Africa. And there were scientists in Brazil that have all done the exact same thing. They've looked this under a microscope and they said, this is not possible in nature. It's not. There's no way.

And we're going to talk about that. But I want to rebut Dr. Michael Osterholm's theory that there's no evidence because I'm about to tell you what the evidence is. and this is evidence. I mean, I don't know what he... That's the thing. It's like, what is his definition of evidence? You know, at one point in time, he talked about...

I think Joe might have asked him about all these documents that got deleted and basically mysteriously disappeared from the Wuhan Lab around the same time. And, you know, and he's like, well, I can't verify that that happened. I mean, you know, we can't... But you can, because it did happen. And there's proof of that. And so it was like,

everything that Joe said, and it was a very subtle interview. Like, Joe was, he pushed back on a couple little things, but barely. Not like he. He wasn't prepared. If you were prepared enough for this interview, you would have had this, what we're about to talk about. But also, Professor Angus Dowglish, I hope that's how I'll say his name. He co-wrote the paper, placed in blame on the Wuhan Lab, being culpable for unleashing the

COVID-19 virus and trying to destroy evidence. So the authors of the 22-page British-Norwegian vaccine paper write that SARS-Coronavirus 2, the technical name for the virus, has no credible natural ancestor. They add that it is beyond reasonable doubt that the disease was produced through laboratory manipulation. And in its explosive twist, the scientists placed blame squarely on the same Chinese lab researchers in Wuhan for attempting to cover their tricks. They said there was a deliberate destruction, concealment, or contamination of data in Chinese labs and Chinese scientists who wish to share their knowledge

have not been able to do so or have disappeared according to the paper written by British Presser Angus Denglish or Norwegian scientist Dr. Berger Sorensen. So this published, or this paper, by the way, was supposed to be published May the, well see, so this article was written May 28th, 2021.

I believe this paper has been published, this actual study. I cannot find this study anywhere. I've looked on DuckDegau. I've looked on everywhere. I cannot find it. So the internet is blacklisting this study. They are. I mean, I've read a couple other articles.

This was supposed to be published within a month or two from those dates, which is around April, May. It is now 22 of February, and still, I cannot find them anywhere. So it is, and even in this article, it is slated to be published in the scientific journal, quarterly review of biophysics discovery very soon. So the absence of crucial scientific proof may prove to make it impossible to know exactly how the coronavirus originated

and then spread around the world. The experts admit. But it does appear that the preserved virus material and related information has been destroyed. So here is the key of this. And this is why, over anything else, the researchers in Israel, the researchers in Africa, the researchers in Brazil, the researchers in Germany and Sweden, I think there was

Finland. There have been researchers and India, actually. There was India scientists that looked at this virus. They looked at under a microscope and they did the different sequences and all that stuff they do. And all of them have concluded, by the way, you used to be able to find those on Duck, Duck, Go, you can't find anything about this now. That there's no way this was natural. So there's a diagram, essentially, from the report that featured, that was featured in a Daily Mail's article that shows what described as a rare situation where four amino acids appear on the SARS-CoV-2 spike. So there's four amino acids that appear on the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, okay, which is pretty much the part that affects you and the virus. both the authors have developed a roadmap based on collection of samples and odd findings.

They illustrate there was manipulation and explained how by zero and in on a rare instance of a row of four amino acids which give off a positive charge and bond to negative human cells that they pinpointed on the SARSCO2 spike. Sorensen told the Mel that it is extremely in likely, if not,

probably impossible to find even three amino acids on a spike protein in any virus ever in history, let alone four. Okay. So, I mean, they've never even, they've never even seen three. Yeah, they've never even seen three and this one had four. So how is it even possible that that happened without gaining a function? That's the thing. The laws of physics, they say, mean that you cannot positive, there's no way possible. You can have four positively charged amino acids in a row. It's impossible. You have to have a negative with a positive.

There are rare instances that I've looked up that you can have two positives, but a negative is bind into that. The problem is there's no negative. It's all positive, and there's four in a row, which means it is engineered. It was done some way. There's no way it naturally occurred. They know this, they're scientists.

and by the way, this has been echoed in Israel, this has been echoed in Africa, this has been echoed everywhere around the world that scientists have looked at this. This was the one thing they saw that was like, this is impossible. Absolutely impossible. They said the only way you can get this

whatsoever is that if you artificially manufactured. And by the way, these two scientists and doctors are two of the biggest scientists and doctors in the world for viruses. They are what's called, molecular scientist. And so what they do is they know every little thing about our

body, our DNA, how viruses work, how they don't work. And that's why these two scientists alone kind of headed to charge when other scientists around the world were talking about like, this doesn't make sense. And so they looked at it and they're like, yeah, you're absolutely right. Like, obviously this is obviously engineered.

So, so that proves that point, like to a 100% fact, I mean, that is data or data or whatever you want to call it right in front of you. Yeah. And of course, Dr.

It came from a lab. Yeah. So Dr. Varshi, of course, you know, he keeps denying gang of function. They've changed the definition.

Even when, you know, that was the other thing Joe was talking about. And he's like, he's like, but we do understand that like people do need to, I guess, do gang a function,

you know, this is what he said. I didn't see that part. Oh, yeah. They need to do gang of function to, you know, because I know that we got a function. like the viruses and how to respond to them and all that stuff.

Like it sounds like he is like paid off or something already. I mean, he pushed back a little bit. He's not the same Joe Rogan he was. Period. I agree. Just from the parts I listened to, it was, like I said, it was just painful because that was not the real like Joe Rogan I know. Yeah. And like if he had any other guests on there and was himself, he would have been spiting back at this

fact, this fact, because he's really smart about this stuff. And then, like, today he act like is dumb and didn't know anything. Yeah, the scientists also assert that there is enough proof that the findings of strains after January don't hold up. Strains popped up after January 2020 are not credible. For a year, we have possessed prima facie evidence of retroengineering in China in early 2020. So, essentially, these scientists are echoing.

the same things that other scientists were on the word are echoing. It is what they say is literally impossible for it to be natural. I mean, and the reality is like, is this Dr. Michael Osterholm not smart enough to know this? Because, you know, he kept saying a couple times, he's like, well, I'm not a virologist. Or I don't have the answer to this. Or I don't have that answer to that. I'm an immunologist. Immunologists.

Well, why is Joe not bringing these guys on? Yeah. You know, because because this guy is Joe Biden's dude. Yeah, he is on his task force advisory. Yep. And so I don't know. I mean, if I'm Joe Rogan, I guess what I would say is that, you know, you can bring someone on like this and that's fine. But I'm still going to talk to him like I do everybody else and ask them questions.

Or at least have someone on that can debate him. Yes. Because there was nothing there that. There really wasn't. And then Joe just kind of had to act stupid because he knew the truth, but he was not going to, like, say it. Yeah. So that was the first rebuttal that we had was the gang of function,

and it came from the Wuhan Lab. And I think we pretty much just proved that. Okay, so the other one is, you know, something that I, this is something else I was kind of surprised about, is Joe not at all talking about side effects or the potential outcomes. He did mention, and I'm talking about the vaccine, he did mention, you know, myocarditis. You know, he mentioned that. But essentially, this doctor, Michael Osterholm, downplayed the severity or both.

And by the way, articles do this too. They downplay the severity of myocarditis. If you look up articles, they'll be like, oh, don't worry, it's easily treatable, though. But that's not true. I've seen doctors. I've heard doctors. You can look up the severity, the potential severity. of myocarditis, Dr. Peter McCullough, which is a highly respected cardiologist, the most published

cardiologist in his field in history, which is one of the podcasts that they said Joe Rogan has misinformation on, but this doctor says myocarditis is not just necessarily easily treatable. And by the way, I've seen hundreds of other doctors say this. This is not just something that you just get and get over. A lot of times myocarditis cause long-term permanent damage to the heart. It can even cause heart failure for what I've seen in the future. It can cause all kinds of shit. And who wants to mess with your own heart?

I mean, that's what keeps your body living. But here is the argument that Michael Osterholm argued today, especially when they were talking about kids, was kids have a higher chance of getting myocarditis from COVID than they do the vaccine. But the reality is that we have read studies. I've read him. Joe said he read them, but he couldn't find them because I can't find anything on Duck to Go or any of that shit anymore.

I have read studies that you are like five times higher chance of having an adverse event, having the vaccine. With the vaccine. As a younger, especially a 30 and under male. And we know people. And we know people personally their kids have got that. No. Like almost like more than people get COVID. Yeah.

I don't know more. But the reality. Well, look, but do you know? I mean, the thing is, these studies are being drowned. Like, any of the studies that talked about myocarditis, any of the studies that talked about, hey, you know, here's the deal. If you're 30 and under, there were many studies that said, hey, you have a higher chance of having adverse events from the vaccine than with COVID.

There were studies that were published that were valid. And they're out there somewhere. Can't find them now. But I know they were. Joe has had doctors on his podcast that talked about him. They've literally read them on the podcast. And they've erased those podcasts.

Yeah, a lot of them they did. I mean, if you think about it, they have. It's almost like they're erasing true data. No, they're a rate. No, they are. They are doing that. And I'm telling you, duck, duck go is compromised. And we should have known that was coming because, I mean,

Google, I guess, figured out that they can't do anything about Duck, that go sourcing their information and how they use. use their information necessarily. But so then I think Google is just going around and blacklisting shit that they don't agree with now. So that none of the, you know, feed search engines, as I call them, you know, they compiled search engines. They're not actually search engines. They are compiled data from Google, essentially.

None of those are going to be accurate anymore. And so someone's going to have to build a search engine where, you know, people actually have access to real data and factual data. If there's a study that goes against the vaccine or goes against whatever, I mean, let's talk about, like, why is no one talking about? We need to know exactly how many people have died from the vaccine. We need to know. Why is this not readily?

And by the way, why was that not even mentioned on this podcast today? Yeah, how many people have died from the vaccine? They were scared. They were scared. Adverse effects. I guarantee it. He was like, look, whoever his handler is on either side at this point, because I don't even know what the hell is going on with Joe Rogan, but

they probably were like, look, here's what we're not talking about. We're not talking about anything that has to do with deaths. You're not going to ask me questions about veers or how many deaths are in veers or, you know, or how much are we researching deaths and blah, blah, blah. I mean, obviously. Like, why would you not...

What the hell was that? Why would you not ask that information? I mean, if you want... Which obviously the goal for this government is get vaccinated, get vaccinated, get vaccinated, get vaccinated. It's safe and It's safe and effective. It's safe and effective. It's safe and effective. It's safe and effective. It's like a fucking mind game. And it's just like wear your mask. Wear your mask. Where your mask. It's fucking safe and effective. Oh, it works. You will not get COVID. You will not get COVID. Wrong. Because now, and by the way, he did say that cloth mask and surgical masks don't work. Oh, but I guarantee you ask that dude six months a year ago is, oh, no, you got to wear your mask. You got to fucking wear your mask. Oh, no. You can wear this mask for a long time. You know, they're about a buck. He's talking about N95. Yeah. But, but I mean, but even still, he, I mean, he did mention that in 95 masks.

Even still, if you don't wear him correctly, sorry, I'm getting excited. Okay, I know. And this is another thing that really ticks me off about this darn podcast tonight is, is the way that he, there's new articles coming out that are misleading. Like, for example, Israel. You know, we know, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was like a crucial point that I was like. Oh my God. It's like they're right, but they're wrong. Well, no.

So, yeah, Sherry makes a great point. So they talked about, I'm slowing down my talking because I was getting really fast. That's okay. People like that. No, I don't think so. When I listen to it, I hate it. I'd rather listen to me slower. So maybe if I talk fast and annoys you just go to Spotify.

I think you can play at slower speed. Go slow down and slow. 0.5%. Okay. So the other thing is they talked about. the vaccination rates versus Omicron and COVID in Israel, because Israel at one time was the most vaccinated country in the world. Yeah.

Now it isn't, supposedly. Now they say that 40% of their country is not vaccinated. Yeah. And so Joe was like, wait, what? Like, I thought, no, it was like 90%. He's like, no, it's 40%. And then they went and looked it up there. He says 40.

But he kept saying, no, it's 40%. Yeah. And this is how many people are getting. it or getting COVID and it's because there's only 40% that's unvaccinated. Yeah. And it's because of the unvaccinated people. So then this guy kept saying, so then Joe asked Jamie to look up what was going on with that whole thing, right?

Of course, Jamie can't find shit about it because everything has been purged from the internet. I'm telling you, this has happened over the past week. I promise you it has. Like, we need to do an entire podcast on this and research us. because this is a major thing. They are deleting, blacklisting, or whatever, anything that doesn't agree with the narrative.

I've seen it. I've seen it on Duck. That Go. You can't even find anything like that about this shit. This is what's happening. So then he kept saying, no, no, no, no. This is the way it is. This is what...

This is what's going on. It's 40%. Joe couldn't find... He's like, oh my God. Joe couldn't find the data. And so then he was like, well, my staff. guys in the hallway. And so this is towards the end of the podcast and Joe's like, well,

let's take a break and bring him in and get the stats. So we thought that the guy was going to, you know, we thought so they cut it there. And then they came back. And he said, all right, guys. So anyways, what we're talking about, you know, and it was like they kind of tried to like move away from the subject because but here's the thing.

Joe, I guess, I mean, he did at least say, which I said before he even said this, I said, this is not about unvaccinated. This is about they can say, over there or someone considers, I don't know if the United States considers this or whoever's making these studies. It makes their data look better.

Four shots is fully vaccinated in Israel. Four now. Four. So people that were like two shots, which to me is fully vaccinated, you're supposed to get two shots. That's what they've always said. That's what you're supposed to be for fully vaccinated.

They're no longer vaccinated population. Yeah. So when you look up fully vaccinated, well now they're like oh no no no no look fully vaccinated we're doing really good there even though they're still not like there still got a lot of people in the hospital and dying in Israel even the four shots people yeah well no but even the people that and this is what I thought was incredible right when Omnicrom was coming out and Israel was the most vaccinated country in the world or whatever there was like over a

million people that refused to get the boosters because they saw that the vaccination is not working. Who wants to get a booster in another booster and another booster when you see the vaccination is not working? Yeah. So essentially the numbers on Israel is they're going off of unvaccinated or basically anybody under four shots. Yeah.

And so you make it the consideration. Do you think it's unvaccinated or not? That's up to you to decide. But so here's the other thing. So if you say that these people with four shots are vaccinated, right? And this is an argument, and it wasn't even argument. Joe just kind of left alone, but, you know, he said, well, wait a minute. He did get Dr. Michael Osterholm to admit that the Omicron variant escapes vaccine.

100%. It does. Which means it has no effect on the vaccine. Now, Dr. Michael Osterholm kind of said this mistakenly in some way. Like when he said it and how he said or why he said it, he was talking about another subject that was not the vaccine subject. So he was talking about something, I can't remember what it was. But I always find this interesting, especially as far as psychology goes.

Sometimes you can catch people off guard and they want to make a point about something else, but they forget that they are about to screw their other points up. And this is what he did. So he said, no, no, no. I mean, you know, the thing is, though, the thing is, Joe. is that amychronic escapes the vaccine, you know, and, you know, it's like the vaccine, you don't even, you know, so this whole time he's arguing for the vaccine.

So Joe's like, so tell me, make this make sense then. So if the vaccine, if it escapes the vaccine, which means it essentially does nothing. And according to him, previous infections of COVID, also he says immunity escapes amicron immunity, okay? So if that's the case, so then he's like, But that's why, you know, with prior immunity, even if you've been, you've had COVID, COVID before, you still need a vaccine. Yeah.

Okay. Well, why do you need a vaccine if it's both the same? And he's like, no, no, but the vaccine is showing really good data. It still protects you from death and all this shit. No. But how? Here's my point. I don't think it does anymore.

This is my opinion. Let me tell you what I think happened, that they're trying to use for the vaccine. We know for a fact that Omicron is far less lethal than Delta was. And we know for a fact that Omicron is more contagious. There's no doubt about that. And we also know that the doctor scientist that discovered Omicron in Africa, South Africa, was basically threatened to not ever say that it was less lethal or less severe. And she said, I'm not going to do that.

They want to scare people. No, it's the simple fact that they want you to get vaccinated regardless. Yeah. So my point here is that they want you to believe that that Omicron is still reducing deaths. And by the way, Joe said how many people in the United States right now of the cases, how many is Omicron, how many is Delta, how many is the original? He said, in the United States, Omicron is 100% of all COVID infections. But how do they know that?

I don't know. But even still, let's just take it. I know, but I'm just wondering how they know that. Let's take that. Who knows? They probably don't. But let's just take his word for that, 100%. Right. Okay. Well, if that's the case, and you say that Omicron escapes immunity, or sorry, escapes the vaccine, but you also say it escapes immunity, natural immunity, which is why you should get vaccinated.

What the fuck are you talking about? Because, I mean, are you literally trying to say that the vaccine is the reason why there's less deaths with Omicron? Or is it because, Because Omicron is less deadly. That's literally the data they're putting together to try to say, look, the vaccine is still protecting you. People are dying from Omicron.

Even though Omicron is less lethal. And then they're going to try to say, oh, no, no, no, no, no. But look at the people that are vaccinated. And look at the people that are dying of Omicron. They're unvaccinated. Well, what do you fucking... See, it's just all a numbers manipulation game. It is. It is.

And I just wish Joe Rogen would have pushed a little harder than he did. I'm disappointed. Yeah, I was disappointed too. And that's why I felt like we had to do this episode. I mean, we weren't doing shit tonight, really. I mean, we're probably going to cook some steaks tonight. We're going to chill. Might have a fire, but I have a darn sinus affection.

Yeah, sure you're sick again. Go figure. Gosh, wonder why. I don't know. Could be, I'm not even going to say it. Yeah, who knows. So what else? So, yeah.

So what else did we really disagree about? Can you remember? Well, I mean, it was the kid thing and just the fact that, you know, I mean, I agreed with him on the mask. I mean, he kind of can't deny that because. But he was, oh, this was another thing. He's like, kids are fine with wearing masks in schools all day. And then he was talking about at lunch. He's like, they should not even like, he was talking about social distancing at lunch.

No, he didn't say at lunch. Yes, he did. No, he just said it defeats the purpose if you wear a mask all day and then take it off at lunch. Yeah. And he's like, they need to social distance. Well, has he ever been in a school? How do you social distance in a school in a lunchroom cafeteria? But also he's like, maybe you can separate people in classrooms.

And Joe's like, okay. But does that even make sense because you're still in the same room with someone sick? Yeah. And then he went to, well, maybe we need ventilation. Yeah, he went to ventilation. And then he was like, but then there's a machine that can do this shit. I mean, it's just, it's never eating. He even went to like, well, maybe they should face a different direction while they're eating or something.

I don't know, man. Oh, my God. This is like crazy. Look, I'm not saying that he is the craziest doctor that he could have had. I think what Osterholm and whoever was pushing or however the interview happened, I think that they were trying to normalize the narrative a little bit. Yes. But it still sounds crazy.

With children wearing masks at school, like he thinks it was fine. It's not fine. No, he never said it was fine. Yeah, he said that they need to wear masks at school. No, he didn't. No, but he's not, he's not, he didn't dare say that they shouldn't wear mask. He wouldn't answer that because he can't answer that because the government.

And he's on this advisory task force and all this shit. No, he ain't going to answer that. But I think, I think, you know, a lot of these doctors are handcuffed. We know that. But he, you know, he was saying the difference between the N95 in a regular mask. But even that, if it's not wore perfectly, it's still. But children that go to school with masks, they're not wearing in 95 masks. So he knows they're not working.

Yeah, he said anything other than any in 95 masks do not work. But children should still wear masks at school. Well, he didn't say that. He just couldn't say they shouldn't. But, I mean, obviously they shouldn't. If we know for a fact now, they don't work. So why would you not come out and say kids should not wear masks? Exactly.

He can't do it because of who he is there for. And that's the reality. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I mean, that's the reality of it. So I don't know, guys. I mean, there was probably more to that, but I wanted to make this point because I don't know. I mean, I would like to not think Joe Rogan's compromised or, you know,

he's trying to be a little light on things. I think he's trying to be good, quote unquote. You know, good for the establishment now a little bit more. He's trying not to have another controversy. But, dude. But this is going to bring a whole new controversy. No, it is. Because people, no, people that listen to him,

they're going to see right through what just happened on his podcast. They will, but they won't. I think he did just enough to keep his people kind of. But a lot of the people that are not dumb. And by the way, it's not just Joe Rogan's people. There's a reason Joe Rogan is the most listened to a podcast. There's a reason we have a lot of downloads is because we don't bullshit. shit people. We just say it like it is. I mean, we don't, we don't get on here and just try to lie to

people. We don't make up shit. I mean, you know, we don't misinformed people. I mean, I don't think at all. Based on anything we usually talk about is a study or a, or a, or a, something that a doctor said or whatever the case is. So, I mean, if people want to say, and by the way, that was the other thing. Joe Rogan asked him, he said, well, how do you say, like when these doctors came out against certain things that were going on with COVID. And these were, especially doctors that were talking about the vaccine and the lab and all this shit from MIT

and Harvard. And then Anthony Falschi went on a coordinated campaign which is Rand Paul has been grilling Fulchie in Congress for this. Fulchie and his comrades went on a campaign to discredit these highly touted scientists and doctors

from like the top universities like Harvard, MIT, John Hopkins and they went on a campaign to undermine anything they said this is shown in emails so

and so Michael Oström oh I don't know about that I don't know I don't know I can't answer that you know I mean it's like anything like why even have him on like all he says is the same shit

that the media says just he just tries to be as doctorly as possible no he just tries to be It's like he tries to spin. Yeah, he spins it as a doctor. No, but it's not even that. He tries to, he tries to, if anything, I think he tried to disprove everything that anyone has ever said about bad against vaccines or bad against code or, you know.

And the vaccines and the masks, everything. Yeah. Even though the mask, he did say it because he can't, he can't say that. But, I mean, as soon as we find out real information in the vaccine, I mean, which, I mean, damn. Madurna just lost $145 billion. That's what I was just getting ready to say. From insider shareholders because they know some shits about that. Insiders, they have all sold their stocks because they know.

Not all, but $145 billion worth. That's a lot of money. Yeah. And guess what? The media, legacy media is already trying to say that this is because of, what they say? COVID-19 pandemic is starting to rewind to a close. And that's why people are selling their stocks. That's bullshit.

This has happened all. in the past 10 days. Yeah, and that's why they want boosters every six months. That's not going anywhere as far as they're concerned. They know that they have to share their facts. By the way, there is a, which we're going to have probably a story on this at some point, but their project Veritas has once again infiltrated the FDA and FDA executive. And this FDA executive essentially went on record to say that this was,

this is planned to pretty much for you to have shots every year for pretty much. much of forever. And this is all a big money thing. I mean, they have them on camera, this FDA executive. So we'll wait to see what happens in Project Veritas. They're probably going to try to fuck with them again because they have real live, someone real and live that is dumb enough to say anything to anybody. Saying this shit again.

When do they learn their life? I mean, I'm glad they don't learn their lessons. No, I'm glad they don't either. But this is just another video of their bullshit inside plans. Yeah. And it went from, you know, oh, do two shots and you're vaccinated forever. Now it's boosters. Yeah, now it's boosters every six months.

Yeah, we all knew it was bullshit. We all knew that it was, you're never going to be vaccinated forever. No. Well, you would be if it was an actual freaking vaccine. Yeah, if it was a vaccination, yeah. Oh, my God. But, guys, we got to, I mean, you know, we're just giving you guys information. We're coming at you from an undisclosed location.

Yeah, and it is kind of aggravating to like listen to that stuff when you're like, oh my God, you just, it makes, you know, when I was a little preppy and elementary, gag me with a spoon. That's what makes me feel like. Gag me with a spoon. Oh, my goodness. Well, everyone, I think that's it because I don't know. I just wanted to kind of give a little rebuttal, I guess we wanted to do. And, you know, we watched that and we wanted to give you guys our opinions. But anyways, we will be back Monday.

So we will not be here tomorrow. Oh. Or Sunday. Oh. But we will be back Monday. And until then, guys, keep yourself safe. Keep yourself sane. Keep informed.

And, you know, don't believe the bullshit. Yeah. And seek the truth. Yeah, for sure. You got to. Which is why they're here. Yeah. all right guys we love you

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