Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Joe Rogan Podcast Billy Carson Breakdown | Aliens UFOs & Multi Dimensional Beings

Episode Date: June 6, 2024

In this episode, we delve into the Joe Rogan Podcast featuring Billy Carson, where they discuss advanced civilizations, alien life, multidimensional concepts, and more. While some view Billy Carson as a fringe conspiracy theorist, we explore whether his insights might actually surpass those of the mainstream scientific community.We also discuss UFOs, UAPs, God, The Bible, and Advanced Civilizations! All of this and more on this episode of Joe Rogan Podcast Billy Carson Breakdown | Aliens UFOs & Multi Dimensional Beings

And welcome to Investigators Podcast. I'm your host Chad alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. On tonight's episode, we're going to be breaking down the Billy Carson, Joe Rogan interview. That recently happened. I thought it was a very interesting episode. What I will say is I think that the Billy Carson and Andrew Schultz episode was a little more interesting. But there were definitely things that we want to talk about in relation to what Billy Carson and Joe Rogan talked about. there was many of our listeners that sent us this episode and said, hey, guys, check this out.

You got to listen to it. You got to watch it. Tell us your thoughts. So that's what we're going to do on tonight's episode. You may wonder why we're even breaking this episode down. Well, the reason we break this episode down is because a lot of what Billy Carson and Joe Rogan talk about here is things that we've talked about for many years on this show. We've been doing this show since 2019, I believe. So when we talk about aliens, interdementiality, advanced life forms, advanced weaponry or technology.

we've done a little bit of everything. So when we started listening to this episode, almost three hours long, there were some things that I didn't really have a lot of say in, right? I didn't really have a lot of thoughts on. But there are definitely some things that we have to talk about because I think that the reality of what we believe is reality is not necessarily what reality maybe really is.

That makes any sense. Now, as I said, on the flagrant podcast with Andrew Schultz, Billy Carson, that's initially where Billy Carson kind of blew up. And that is when Billy Carson went on there and said a lot of crazy stuff, at least according to X slash Twitter. There were a lot of scientists out there on X. They were saying, oh, this is nothing more than entertainment. Billy Carson and the Joe Rogan episode is nothing more than entertainment.

This is not science. This is not backed by science. This is not the scientific community. So therefore, it can't possibly be true. And although it may be entertaining, don't take. anything from this. And what I will tell you guys is this. They put Billy Carson's name, obviously, in the same category as they put Graham Hancock. These are both very smart people, although they may be budding up against the scientific community, which is obviously a no-no.

If you followed the COVID pandemic, if you butted up against a scientific community or, aka the experts as mainstream media wants you to believe, then you are nothing more the conspiracy theorist or you are a domestic terrorist. You are someone that is against the narrative and you must be stopped at all cost. And so when you have people that come on and give you theories that they have researched and studied their entire lives and you can't give them any form of credibility, I think is ridiculous. So we're going to talk about all of that tonight, guys.

Welcome to the show. It is June the 5th, 2024. Here in the beautiful state of South Carolina, we hope all of you guys and girls are doing fantastic out there tonight or this morning, whenever you guys are listening to us. This was an interesting episode, Sherry. And there's definitely things here that as when he talks about some of these things, in particular, and we're going to also preface the breakdown with a clip from the Andrew

Schultz podcast where he talks about quote unquote, I guess what you can say, the ancient astronaut theory, right? And there's been a lot of talk about the ancient astronaut theory. astronaut theory. You've probably heard it on, you know, on on the history channel many times. You've probably heard it on Discovery Channel or on X or social media platforms. Is this even a real thing? And is there any type of text to back this up? Well, there is very interestingly. There is definitely text to back this stuff up. Sherry, what do you think, though, about Billy Carson? Do you feel like he's a smart guy? Do you feel like he's someone that, I mean, obviously he has some

some of those outlandish theories, at least if you are a normal everyday person that does not research, does not study in this stuff, you might think he's a tenful hat-wearing psychopath. Yeah, you would think that, but you have to go back to his background. When he was just eight years old, when he had his own experience with aliens or something that was out of this world, he told his mom about it. And his mom was like, yeah, this, you know, there really is things like that in this world. It's crazy that she even thought that. This is back in the 70s, I believe. And the 70s, because back in the 70s, you are crazy if you even mentioned something that was alien of Earth, right? Yeah.

And so when he was eight years old, he went to school the next day and he went to the library. He said, I need every single encyclopedia that I can get my hands on. On aerospace. About aerospace, because I'm going to learn all of this. And then by the time he was 12 years old, I think he had his first business, didn't he? Yeah, 12 years old, yeah. And so a little bit about Billy Carson's background. He's an American entrepreneur, author, music artist.

TV host, producer, actor, and he's a qualified expert in ancient civilizations. He is the founder of Forbidden Knowledge TV, which a TV network known for showcasing conscious documentaries and shows. He is also the co-founder of the first class space agency in Miami, Fort Lauderdale, and the branch of the United Family of Anomily Hunter's UFAAH. As an author, Billy Carson, is a four-time bestselling author with titles including compendium of the Emerald Tablets. Woke doesn't mean broke.

the epic of humanity and fractal holographic universe. In addition to his work in television and writing, Carson is also a music artist and has acted in films, documentary, short videos, and movies. Carson's journey to success started a young age with him setting up his first business at the age of 12. Despite facing challenges, he has built successful career as an entrepreneur and has used his platform to encourage others to believe in their ideas and never give up.

And listen, guys, the reality of this is one of the things he said on Joe Rogan, was that the problem with society today is that we are in this, we are in this kind of realm to where we have to divide to conquer because of the elites and the powerful in charge. They know that they cannot control the people unless you divide. But the problem with that scenario also is, is that we are never going to fully advance at the stage or at the speed that we should be, especially if you look at the potential of what other civilizations and other planets or other galaxies are doing. I've often asked the question on this podcast.

I said if there is an alien civilization, which I 100% believe there is out there in our universe that is far more advanced than we are. And I'm talking about billions of years potentially more advanced than we are. How did they get there and how did they not let divide and conquer them, right? How did they not let this stop their growth and their expansion and their advancement as a civilization? And obviously, someone or something out there has figured this out. And I really believe that they have. There are obviously many theories about classes of civilization and what that means. We also talk about, you know, we believe there's 11 dimensions out there.

We're in the third. And then the further up in the dimensions you go, the more power you harness, the more almost godlike powers you can obtain. And Billy Carson kind of really gets into a lot of this stuff. he's very interesting guy. We actually are going to get him on this podcast very soon. I'm calling that right now. You guys should go tell him to come on our podcast.

And I do want to mention, by the way, we are about to launch our YouTube channel where it's going to be kind of more of the soft core stuff. I would say like the Joe Rogan stuff. Now, obviously on this podcast for those new listeners, we do talk about some crazy stuff. We talk about things that mainstream media does not want you to hear. In particular, how the government actually controls us, how the COVID pandemic really went down.

All of these things that are very, very hurtful to the agenda of what the government and globalists and New World Order want you not to hear. We talk about that on this podcast. But obviously, when we go to YouTube, we're not necessarily going to be able to talk about all of those things. You guys can still always get that here. But we are going to be doing things on YouTube, which are going to be highly entertaining. Our first episode, by the way, is going to be on Bigfoot.

We're going to have a Bigfoot expert. he was part of the Finding Bigfoot series in the background anyway. And then hopefully we're setting up a Bigfoot hunt, which I think will be hilarious and fun. And we don't know what the hell we're going to do, but it's going to be fun. Yeah, it's definitely going to be fun. And we're also going to try to set up a haunted gel experience on the YouTube channel. Yeah, for sure. I think all these experiences are going to be very entertaining to you.

And like Chad said, it's going to be more of the soft porn. and not the soft core not porn we're not doing porn dude i'm kidding god i just know we're not doing porn on easy it's like the soft stuff instead of the hard stuff right sherry just says porn when i say soft core i mean soft core soft core soft core conspiracy guys okay put that out there so yeah we've never watched porn um anyways guys um so yeah so i told you about billy carson's background now what i want to first get into i want to get into the first clip, right? I want to preface the breakdown of the Joe Rogan episode with in particular what Billy Carson had to say. And one of the clips that really kind of stood out to me on the Andrew

Schultz podcast, where he talks about the Ananaki, right? And he talks about this space refugee or astronaut or ancient astronaut theory. And so those of you that have heard about the ancient astronaut theory, right? Really what they really call those people or those things or those are ancient astronauts or space refugees. Here's a clip I want you guys to hear. We're going to break that down briefly before we get into the breakdown of Joe Rogan, Billy Carson. Here you go. He's giants.

Yeah, yeah. Okay. The Ananaki, they are these beings that came from off world. So these are aliens. These are aliens. Now, what's interesting about these aliens is that they're not little green men with antenna. They're actually hominids, bilateral bipedal hominids. they look just like us.

You slice them in half. They have two forefaces looking eyes, two hands, legs. They put their pants on one leg at a time like us. But do they look more like us or more like us? We look like them. We actually look like them. And the reason why is because we have their genetics and their DNA inside of our bodies. Now, what's interesting is these beings were a space-faring race that broke away from the Pleiadian star system.

The Pleiadian star system is a group of stars called the Seven Sisters in the Night Sky. You can see six stars with the naked eye. Now, these stars in ancient times, according to ancient texts and tablets, there was an ancient galactic war there. Okay. Most of the information from Star Wars comes from this text. And this war, they had these destroyers like Death Stars. They don't call them that, but they call them the Brahma Astra and Brahma Astra Honda weapons that actually can release a weapon that can destroy planets.

Okay. Imagine if you're in a star system and a planet is being blown up and you're in a nearby planet, you got to get off of your planet. Yeah. This created something called space refugees. Nobody's talking about this. Where are you getting this information again? Where is this?

The Mahabharata, the Bagheda, the Indian Vedas. So these are ancient Indian texts. That's right. 5,000 years ago. Yeah. Andy Numa Elish. I just want to let you know. Oh, I don't want to get to this, but for this entire episode.

Yeah. We're not fact checking. We're not debating. We're not pushing. Take us down the rabbit hole. We want to see how deep it goes. So people can listen to what I'm saying and they can go look all of it up. Fuck them.

Take us down the rabbit hole. I've taken you, man. Okay, let's go. So we're talking about the evidence, the very first evidence of space refugees. So you're seeing this in these ancient Indian texts. Yeah. Okay. You come across this and you're like, okay, let me see if there's some truth to this

because I'm seeing this across multiple ancient Indian texts. Right. Any other texts referencing this? The Terra Papers, an ancient indigenous American text as well. Okay. Very little known text that hardly anyone talks about. The Hopi tribe elders have written this book based on that text and published it, actually. It's called the Terra Paper, so that it wasn't just in indigenous lore, but it made it finally to publishing.

So it's actual text that we can all read and get access to. It reads like the Star Wars. movie, just take out the love stories and all that. And what's interesting is it talks about, again, these same galactic wars going on, people fleeing from that region of space, looking for other planets, Orion, El Debron, Sirius A, B, and C, which we know the Dogan talk about people coming from Sirius B, which is a star that ran out of fuel, and of course, Earth. And they came it to create a breakaway civilization. Just like if there was a war, and there was, in our solar system. That's what we call Mars God of War.

We're going to be like, you know, we got to get off this planet because the debris is going to destroy us. So we're the product of pussy aliens, basically. Like, aliens who weren't ready to bang and fight for their future and their freedom, they just ran. We're defectors. They were the elites that had the

access to the ships that can take them from one star to another. So are they like the politicians that like didn't go to Vietnam? Right. God. So we are the product of like risk-privileged kids. The other guys with the $10,000 soup that just sent everyone out and die. They would be protesting at Columbia, right?

Correct. Got it. Got it. Got it. Yeah, that's who these people are. And so some of them came to Earth. And so Anonaki is a general term. It doesn't mean one race. It's just like if all of us here got in a spaceship and flew to Mars and we met a Martian, and he said, who are you guys?

We'd say Earthlings. Got it. They would, but they maybe would call us Inaaki. Yeah, I wouldn't say I'm Billy Carson from Fort Lauderdale. Yeah, yeah. Right. So they would get, so, oh, they're earthlings. That's one term, but we're all different races here.

Right. Right. So, but that's, so Anonaki is a term to, to say those who came from heaven to earth, that's it. In Africa, they call it Benituru, which means the same exact thing. The gods that came from heaven to earth and turned mud into a kingdom. Now, the civilization they built is the Atlantean civilization. So this is where we hear about Atlantis. The mythology of Atlantis.

Right. Got it. Okay. They built the Atlantic. And where's the evidence for this? Where do you read about that? Well, if you look in the text, a lot of the Indian texts, the Vedas, the Mahabrata, the Bhagheda, the ancient lore of the indigenous aboriginals, the terror papers, the Inuma Elish, the Epic of Atra Hasis, the Code of Hamarabi, the Myth of Atonah, there's so many tablets I can just keep going down, down. Everybody's referencing the Atlantic civilization.

Obviously, the most popular one is, was it Plato's uncle or something like that? Plato. Plato wrote about them. Oh, he did? Yes, he did. Okay. Got it. Got it, got it, got it. And so, you know, you start looking at this information. That was more recent. I mean, when I say recent, it's not as ancient.

But the account of Plato's account of Atlantis is not that ancient. But we're talking about the ring city, but that was just one capital. So that ring city that was being described is one capital of dozens that existed on Earth at the same time. Do we know where these other ones might be? Is there any remnants of it? They were on every continent. Every single continent. We're standing on Atlantis right now.

We're sitting right on top of Atlantis. It was New York. Yes. Everyone on this planet is on top of Atlantis. So when you start to look at the Americas, you discover that there were so many pyramids in the Americas. There were literally thousands of them. What happened to them? The Catholic Church blew up the tops of these pyramids.

and built churches on top of them. No, no, no. Really? Yeah, yeah. Come on, Mark, bro. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I was raised Catholic.

They never told us. No, no, they won't tell you that. Give me a sin. That is great. So there you go. So that is the clip with Billy Carson on the Andrew Schultz podcast. Listen, there's a lot to say here. He was talking about the Pleiadian Star System, the Seven Sisters of Stars in a great galactic battle.

The Ananaki essentially came down from the heavens to the earth. and created a civilization, also known as Atlantis. So many of you have heard about Atlantis, right? Atlantis being a civilization, an ancient civilization, potentially, although science and history do not want you to technically believe that Atlantis really ever existed. They want you to say it's a myth. It is a folklore. It is something that not necessarily has ever been proven.

What we have to understand, too, is that there is a lot of actual historical evidence where things pointing to Atlantis, not only in our oceans, but there are things that Graham Hancock, for example, has explored and has looked at to where it looks like there are mounds and things underground. They have those ground penetrating radars that many of these guys are doing right now that are showing there are pyramids under the ground. And so when Billy Carson is sitting here saying that even in the Americas, America today, North America in general. Yeah, thousand pyramids. Thousands of pyramids are actually underground and we just don't know. Now, obviously, over thousands, if not millions of years, depending on how long ago this was, you know, the amount of settlement and, I guess, sediment, I guess you could say,

that would eventually come over all of these ancient civilizations would be to the point where we can't necessarily see them without some types of ground penetrating radar. And even before that, like, what is below that? We do know that, by the way, there is an ocean underground at 700 meters. That's so many, I can't remember how many miles it is now, but that is larger than all water on the surface of the planet. Isn't that crazy? Like, if you dug down, you're going to find this huge ocean. That's bigger than anything on the freaking surface of the Earth.

Yes, that is crazy. But as far as Billy's concern, he said, too, that they drowned these pyramids with sand. that it was, they did that on purpose. Yeah. To hide them. Yeah. And so what he's saying too here is that the ancient astronaut theory or the space refugees.

So some modern interpretations such as the ancient astronaut theory propose a different perspective on the Ananaki's origin. Now, the theory suggests that there were possibly extraterrestrial beings who visited Earth in ancient times and influenced human civilization. Advocates of this idea believe their technological advances might have been associated with divine ability. leading them to become revered, or revered, sorry, as gods by the people of ancient mesototamia.

Sorry, that's a hard word. But you're talking about pyramids, for example. Yes, that's exactly right. You're talking about the pyramids. And I've always said there's no way that humans alone built these pyramids unless they had advanced technology back then. And I do think that advanced technology was there back then and we've lost it, you know, through the years.

But because of this advanced technology, they were able to build the pyramids because this could be the theory with these people that came down and are not people, these aliens that came down and helped humans. They're like the gods of heaven that help humans build these humongous pyramids. And I'm talking about, like when he was talking on Joe Rogan's podcast, he was saying that when they built these pyramids, not one single rock was identical to another. They were all different sizes. Some were small. Some were big. Some were medium. And they had an exact fit to make the right angle of the pyramid go straight up into space.

And they had to go. Yeah. And they had to go miles and miles and miles to find these stones. Yeah, hundreds of not thousands of miles. Yeah. You cannot drag these stones as humans by yourself unless you do like the theory like you were saying. When we're talking about it earlier, that rolling it on the sand theory. Yeah, which is still ridiculous.

That makes no sense to me. And by the way, the reason they know this as far as a lot of this actual stone that was used to build the pyramids was not from that region is because of the type of stone. I think it's a lot of granite. There's some marble in some of this. There's a lot of these specific materials or meta materials that's in these rocks in these stones that were used in the pyramid that are nowhere to be found anywhere near where these pyramids are actually built. But rather than some of these actual materials that are found are from hundreds, if not. thousands of miles away. So, and by the way, this also reminds me of Stonehenge,

Stonehenge, which is you can, you can see, which is a very ancient rock formation that someone built, something built with these massive stones. Well, that also, by the way, was at the result of potentially hundreds, if not thousands of miles away that these, whoever it was that built these brought them from a very far distance, assembled these things for whatever reason. And many people potentially believe that this was some type of call out to the gods, potentially maybe even to the ancient astronauts, the humanoid type things that came down and may have created mankind, at least from this theory.

But you also have to know and remember what Billy Carson said in the beginning of this clip was, hey, you know what? These people or these things, these beings look just like us. We look like them. Yeah, we look like them. They put their DNA and their genital. into us. Yeah.

Saying that we would be human, humanoids, I guess. Yeah, I mean, humanoids, aka humans, but it's like we are the image of them rather than they pretend to be the image of us, right? And so it's one of those things, obviously, when you get into UFO,

the alien topic of these grays, these other things, which, by the way, are also all very possible because it's not necessarily there are just one type of civilization. He was saying there's three or four. Yeah,

potentially, and that's just what he's saying. Now, Nibiru, or I hope I'm saying that, right? Yeah, that planet that they supposedly came from. What's very interesting about it is it supposedly was going in our solar system, but it was elongated, and it went in like a different direction from like east to west instead of north to south. It didn't go around the sun. It was like an elongated system. And the more you get into this recording with him or listening to him talk to Joe Rogan,

He talks about almost like galaxies combining to each other and more solar systems within our solar system, which is so hard to believe. But with this theory, that does make sense with the ancient astronaut theory, if it was elongated and they were able to come to Earth, that's how they came there. Yeah. Well, like Nibiru or Nibiru, I'm probably saying that wrong, but it's another concept that's basically related to the Ananaki. And it's a hypothetical, what they say planet, sometimes referred to as planet X, but certain theories speculate that the Ananaki originated from this undisclosed planet, which is said to have an elongated orbit around the sun, as Jerry saying, and although widely debated, the idea of Nibiru's existence and its connection with the Ananaki

continues to intrigue many. And listen, there are so many things. Now, so when they ruled the Earth, potentially what some people say, Some believe the Ananaki ruled over the earth for thousands of years, as mentioned in ancient Mesotolian text. These powerful beings had the ability to shape human culture and society possessing advanced technology and knowledge. And the Ananaki allegedly bestowed this knowledge upon humans, helping them build impressive structures, what we were just talking about, the pyramids and potentially other things, and established complex civilizations far, far before what we're even at today. And what's crazy about this whole thing? You can say this is mythology.

And scientists can say this is just a myth. It's, you know, folklore. It's fairy tales. It's BS. But what's really interesting about it is there's evidence in ancient texts, like he was saying, in Indian text and even American texts. The Tara papers, for example. They're all talking about these Anaki people. And to me, they sound like, almost like angels that came from heaven to earth and gave people on earth, I guess,

advanced technology. Well, I mean, and could this just be some type of, like, I don't know, a new age scientist slash geologist slash astrophysicist perspective of the Bible of God, right? And we don't know. Yeah, and he goes into that. Yeah. But the Ananaki's influence on human culture is evident in various mythologies in ancient world.

For instance, the Samirian creation myths credit these beings with the establishment. of the first cities. The Argarian Revolution, the implementation of social order and laws. And in Babylonian and Assyrian cultures, the Ananaki were regarded as key members of the Path, the Pathion, with each deity having their own unique abilities and roles. And those diities inspired the development of religious practices, including rituals, temples, and even divined in conography. Yeah.

And when we get deeper into this. interview with him, we're going to see that he says that the Old Testament was pretty much stolen by these ancient tablets. Yeah. That it was, you know, put into the Old Testament, which I have to agree with him. I think it came from somewhere where it was very, very, very, very old. And the reason why I say that is you look at all these ancient tablets and these picturegrams and things, you know, they, they're able to draw pictures that look like humans, antlers, and, you know,

dears, buffalo, bear, whatever. And they're also depicting pictures of unhuman things in their pictures. For sure. So let's get in the first clip with the Joe Rogan and the Billy Carson interview, where they discuss Terrence Howard is the goat to the greatest of all time, right? But more specifically, let's get into the first part of this. And we're going to break down some of what he's talking about here. Here you go.

Do you think that if the Anunaki are real and if Nibiru really exists and there's another planet with highly intelligence beings that are far more advanced than us, if that's the case, do you think there's more advanced and more advanced and more, just like we are to chimpanzees, they are to us, and then another races to them, and then it just keeps going on and on forever until you're God. Absolutely. I believe there's levels to the game, just like there's levels in terms of how we live on this planet. Yeah. You know, we have the first world, second world, third world, just here on Earth. Now, I magnify that as a fractal, as a universe as a whole. You have civilizations that are a million, two million, maybe even a billion years ahead. And every universe, every civilization progressing within the universe at a specific rate.

So you can have beings that have already maybe even shed the corporeal bodies and only exist as beings of energetic light. And then you have everything all the way back down towards us. And the Emerald Tabith of Thoth, he actually says that he has achieved the ability to incarnate at will on and in the plane he desires. He claims to be able to incarnate whenever he wants and even into other dimensions, which is wild. That's next level. Yeah. That's next level. But it does make sense that if we're capable of doing what we're doing, we're talking about your phone, the Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra with Zooms and all this different shit, that's magic to someone just 200 years ago.

and if it keeps going and you keep like playing this out as far as possible, it kind of makes sense that there would be levels to the kind of intelligent life that exists in the units, beyond our comprehension. Yeah. Do you, if you talk to Terrence Howard, do you know his theory about how planets are created, that it's just things ejecting from the sun over billions and billions of years and that there's a Goldilocks zone? All right, we're going to get into that in just a second, but I do got to get into this, right?

So when we talk about ancient civilizations and we specifically talk about like how far advanced could civilizations actually be beyond our own, right? So advanced civilizations in the universe could be far more developed than humanity in so many different ways. And they could be exhibiting capabilities and understandings that are currently completely beyond our comprehension. So here are some possibilities, right? Technological advancements, for example, energy harnessing. Now, civilizations could be used in energy sources far superior to our current methods. So, for example, they might be able to utilize the Dyson Spears to capture the energy output of entire stars, providing nearly unlimited power. That's one.

Interstellar travel. They could have developed methods of travel that allow them to traverse vast distances quickly, perhaps using wormholes or other theoretical physics concepts like warp drives, theoretical bypassing limits of light. and speed travel. Artificial intelligence. Now, we're starting to talk and see our civilization use artificial intelligence. Now, if you watch the news for any given amount of time, if you listen to Elon Musk, even though Elon Musk has his own artificial intelligence, which is GROC, which I think is almost about to surpass ChatGBTGT right now as far as its learning capabilities.

We're looking at robots right now around the world that potentially are going to be used as weapons. We can't even imagine how it's affects us culturally as far as algorithms, as far as what you want to see supposedly or what they want you to think that you want to see, how they can censor and silence certain people and how they can propagate others. But advanced civilizations might have AI systems that surpass human intelligence and even human AI by orders of magnitude, capable of solving very complex problems, and creating new technological advanced. very rapidly. And this is a computer-based system that is going to far advance what we are as humans. And this is also a great thing. It's also a very scary thing. Now, scientific understanding,

physics and chemistry, for example, they may have a much deeper understanding of the fundamental forces of nature, allowing them to manipulate matter and energy in ways we cannot even imagine right now. Right now, based on everything we know in reality, we feel like most of everything we know in reality is a theory. We don't necessarily 100% know for fact anything, especially even gravity and relativity and all of these things, time. All of these are theories, the theory of time, the construct of time. And so they may actually understand this and be able to harness it much more than we are able to do. And then that way, it allows them to manipulate matter and energy that we just don't understand how to do right now. Biology and medicine, such civilizations,

could have mastered genetic engineering, right? Curing diseases, extending lifespan significantly, or even achieving forms of immortality. And if you look at Earth right now, it seems like we're literally doing the opposite of that. We don't want people, we want people to die. And that goes back to the population control. But we're doing the exact opposite of what we should be. And he does talk about the conquering and dividing, how the elite want to conquer and divide. and the elite is in charge of all this,

and this is the problem, why we're not working together as one system where we could be way more advanced. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, and I'm going to play the rest of this clip. We're going to get into some more details of how advanced civilizations could be far more advanced than we are as we go along, but here you go.

Where you can create life. Right. And that's where the people are. And then as this Goldilog zone gets, you have to be super technologically proficient. in order to control your environment to the extent that you no longer require the sun in order to keep you alive. That kind of makes sense if the bureau is out there past Pluto. Oh, it makes a lot of sense.

It makes sense that they- Because I just talked to him a couple hours ago. Oh, okay. Yeah, I mean, so we were talking about web conjugations and everything. Fuck me up for like three days. I left this podcast for three days. I was like, yeah, damn. First of all, how the fuck is he so smart? Like, how would you ever imagine that a dude who's an actor on a television show or in a

movie is that smart. Right, right. Like freaky smart. Right. But his theory about the creation of planets, I was like, oh, that makes sense. Oh, it makes a lot of sense. We watch stuff fly off the sun all the time. And if that this matter over time would coalesce and become a planet.

Yeah, it creates an accretion disk. And everything in space creates accretion disks. So once that matter. What is that word? Accretion disc. Yeah. What does that mean? So once you have a certain amount of mass in space, it instantaneously, on its own, wants

to create this circular, like the shape of our Milky Way galaxy, wants to start circling and swerving around itself. And then as it does that, it begins to create friction. As that friction increases, the matter begins to collapse in towards each other, all right, based on its own energy, and then it then forms a ball. And that then builds and attracts more mass until it builds into a moon or a planet or whatever. That was one of the craziest ones that Terrence brought up was the octagon on Saturn.

Yeah. Was it Saturn? Yeah. Saturn. Saturn. That when you look at the octagon on Saturn, that it's mimicked in the model that they've created by using... All right. So anyways, they're talking about how potentially planets form.

Although, yes, when you talk about physics and mass and how mass wants to basically kind of link up with each other in a spherical way, potentially maybe that's why most planets are spherical, right? and it's all based on gravitational pull. And so as you start getting mass, debris, dust, all these things that are basically in this evolving warp in a certain area of space, especially when it has to do with the gravitational pull and push of our moon, of all that stuff, which is why I think that you have to have a sun and a moon and all these various things to have some type of planets. That's essentially what he's talking about here. But listen, when you talk about that, when he's talking about like two solar systems combining and coming together, to me, that sounds real, but it's not like anything I've heard about in my life. But also, I was watching a program the other night about black holes. The same thing happens with black holes. When two solar systems come together and combine and they're going around and around, they have all that.

push and pull the gravity, when it's, you know, going around in this spiral direction, that's actually what's causing the black hole. Well, I do know, I don't know that's exactly what's called. I mean, I could be wrong. But I do at the very least know that there are galaxies that are being eaten by black holes. Yes. So I don't know. Major ones.

I don't know, I don't know, though, that the galaxies are creating the black holes. I think necessarily the black holes already created and they're eating the black holes. But they're created by the, the galaxies combining is what's happening. And then they get bigger and bigger and eat themselves. I got you. Okay. Yeah, I mean, yeah, the black hole thing is pretty interesting.

If you can ever watch a documentary and the science behind black holes, they're pretty insane to kind of understand. And there are scientific, you know, well, there are satellites out there. They can actually photograph these black holes from, you know, light years away and show certain events in time and history. Now, supposedly they can. who the hell knows what to believe anymore. But also, I want to talk about advanced civilizations again for a second, social and cultural development. Now, governance and society, advanced civilizations might have evolved beyond our current socio-political systems, achieving peaceful, highly efficient, and equitable societies. And that's one of the things I've always said, is like, how would

advanced civilizations get so far advanced, like, especially with our system? I mean, you've got a two-party system right now in America, for example, to where one side hates the other, the other side hates the other, and it's almost like it's always a war. It's just very similar to countries, where countries always want to hate each other. And you try to get these alliances. I mean, you look at shows like Survivor. You know, their survivor, the television show will give you a great example of human nature to where human nature will do whatever it can to win. And if they have to manipulate or utilize other people or other alliances to win against other people. they will do that. And that's essentially what happens around the world and in our geopolitical space.

We find people like countries in NATO to where we want to be the ultimate powerful beings. And then you think about the New World Order, the World Economic Forum. What they're trying to do is achieve global governance and power. And what they're all after is power. And whoever is going to get the ultimate power, well, what do they do with that? We don't know. But we do know that we've heard about population control. What is the benefits of population? There are many benefits to the elites of population control. They believe if they can control all of humanity, they control everything. And then they could possess the power. What they really want to do is to possess the power of God.

They want to, they really want to possess all the power. And they can't necessarily do that with human rights and freedoms and all this stuff. So they have to be able to step on your freedoms. They've got to be able to get rid of as many people as possible that might go against what they're trying to do to be able to harness what they really want to do, which is ultimate power. more so like God power. They really want to be gods. But did you see a coincidence when he was talking about, you know, the galaxy wars going on?

He said the elites were the ones, the elites were the ones that had the spaceships that came to Earth. Yeah, because who else would have? None of the under people would have had it. Yeah, so it would be the elites. And guess what's ruling the world today in our world on Earth? Yeah. The elites. Exactly.

I mean, there's definitely a pattern here. Yeah. So, you know, what happens when the elites, though, and the things that they put in place actually destroy our planet, which were potentially maybe on the cusp of. You think about World War III, and they're going to make a World War to where they eliminate as many people as possible. They're building underground bunkers,

and they're building places for all of these rich-ass people that harness all the technology and the power and the know-how and the knowledge, supposedly. They're going to make sure that those people are protected, whereas they don't give a damn about you, because they just want to be able to further advance themselves into godlike powers. And that's what I don't think most people understand about the New World Order, is that a new world order wants a lot more than what you think they do.

I know Tucker Carlson recently went on the Sean Ryan episode, and this clip has been going pretty viral across the internet. When Tucker Carlson said, when he's set with Claus Schwab, he's like a bumbling old idiot. He's a decrepit, senile old man almost. But the reality is that the people around these people are not senile. They're not dumb. And I disagree very wholeheartedly with Tucker Carlson on this, that although he wants it to, for some reason, Tucker Carlson acted as if these people are not smart enough to really figure out a way to control the world.

And I don't understand where Tucker was coming from that, but I 100% know that the powerful people that meet at the World Economic Forum and the Bilderberg Group and all these other groups, definitely. That is their main goal is to control the population here so that they can then advance their power structure beyond here. And that's why they're all as a racist space. Well, and it seems like they're doing a pretty good job so far because they're controlling us in so many ways. They're controlling us with disease. They're controlling us with food. They're trying to control us with housing, with population, with cars, with gas, anything. You think about all the things that we have in society today and they're trying to control all of that.

For sure. The other thing is ethics and philosophy, advanced civilizations, their ethical framework to be far more. sophisticated, promoting widespread harmony and cooperation, not just within their own species, but potentially with others as well. And that is what we are missing here on earth. We can't even get along politically. We can't even get along ideology or ideologically. And yet advanced civilizations more than likely would have to promote peace and harmony

rather than divide and conquer. And I think, you know, you're going to think about that. Did they come to power through divide and conquer? Probably not because it would have been a complete. Shit show would have been all out war. There would have been mass destruction, famine. There would have been so many things that could not have probably promoted them to complete elitism and power.

Whereas if they would have got everyone to come on board, for example, many scientists today that have said the compartmentalization of government and scientists and science in general, especially with classified things, everything's classified now. So if you have one person that's working on something and the other person working on the other, and they don't ever speak, they don't ever talk. It's never open to debate. It's never open to any of that. How do you truly advance if you do not get all minds to one thing? And I think the more than likely advanced civilizations would have been able to figure out and get past that. Now, communication, interstellar communication. They might use advanced

forms of communication, such as quantum entanglement or other methods that allow for instant information transfer across vast distances, language and information processing. And their languages and data processing abilities could be incredibly advanced, allowing for more efficient and nuanced communication. Now, we've heard many instances. Yeah, well, Ashton Forbes talks about this all the time, this intertwined thing. Yeah, quantum entanglement, all that stuff. But more specifically, if you talk about people that have potentially had, I'm saying potentially too much, but have had either alien encounters or abductions or whatever, the one thing that they all say is that they communicate telepathically. Yes.

So obviously that is an advanced form of communication. You don't have to speak. You don't have to whatever. You literally input and implant your thoughts and what you want to convey to them very fast into their brain without having to even speak. And not only that, you get the filling of what they're feeling more so than just what they're saying. Yes. And I think a lot of people do experience that. And maybe Billy's right.

Maybe it's because of our DNA and our genetics that we're able. build to be telepathic in a way. Like some of us can feel more than others. Some of us can see what other people are thinking while they're thinking it. You know, I think it could be, you know, if we go back to this theory, it could be with the DNA and us being humanoid. Yeah, for sure. Not actually humans.

Yeah. Now, here's another clip. We're going to get into a little more of advanced civilizations as we go along, but this is Billy Carson's thought on there are 11 dimensions. Here you go. If the Anonaki are real and Nibiru is real, and Nibiru is on an elliptical cycle that comes between, it's like Mars and Jupiter, right? Somewhere around there. Well, it's further out now.

Over time, its orbit has been pushed out. And that's just one planet that these Ananaki people come from. They come from many planets. But do you think that this planet, Nibiru, that's on an elliptical orbit, if it's coming every 3,600 years, wouldn't there be some sort of documentation 3,600 years ago at the very least? Well, you have to look for geological disasters as marker points. This object, this Nibiru planet, which is mentioned, by the way, in the Enumer Elish, it's not a fabricated name, just so people know that's a real name. In the Enumnih Illish, the oldest version of the Enumelish, it says Nibiru as one of the planets. But you look at the time frame when this thing gets close.

It orbits another star, so it orbits a brown dwarf star. This brown dwarf star has the same amount of mass as our sun, but it's much smaller, right? but it generates enough heat through friction and its orbiting planets. You can see it in two mass infrared mode coming out of the constellation of Leo if you go to a worldwide telescope and download the software and all of that. But the fact that modern science now admit that there's an object out there that they say orbit our sun every 4,200 years, right? And that's Corey Powell from Discovery Magazine. He's a real astronomer. He said that on Fox News.

He said that on Fox News. If I can find a clip, I'll send it to you, a matter of fact. And so we'll find it. Yeah, we'll find it. Yeah, Fox News, Corey Powell. And so what's happening is we are seeing evidence that there is something out there that's orbiting our sun. And then our sun is a binary star system. So we used to think that our son, one sun in the solar system is normal.

But as they looked out into space with Hubble and now the web, they discovered, no, binary is more of the normal and even trinary. And so it's like, wait a minute. If binary is normal, they start looking for this object that gravitationally should exist, and they believe that it's out there far beyond the orbit of Pluto, and that Corey Powell says, a solar system exists within our solar system. And he goes on to say, we come from there on Fox News, which is just crazy. So the idea, if you follow Terrence Howard's theory, is that matter comes from the sun, it moves away, it coalesces into planets, it gets to a Goldilog zone,

life comes out of that, life becomes far more intelligent as time goes on, develops more capabilities, and then is also assisted by other beings that have been through this process already. And then if this scales out for hundreds of millions of years, you get to a point where this Nibiro is. Yeah. Or billions of years or whatever it takes for it to get all the way the fuck out. Well, I estimate that they're about a million years ahead of us technologically. Now, it could be... And then there's things that are millions of years ahead of them. Oh, way ahead of them.

There's things that are far, far ahead of them. Which is, this is what's hard for us to scale out. We like to think that aliens are flying spaceships, that's the top of food chain. Right. But not even close. Yeah. Like I was saying before, I never got to it. Really, there's three types of beings I think that exist.

One is a physical corporeal being that could be what we see flying around in these UFOs, not all of them, some of them that visit us, that interact with us in the ancient past. Not all are a little green man, but they have various different body types. The second kind that I believe is potentially multidimensional beings. okay, that there's life in every different dimension. And you know, Michio O'Coccu is famous for saying that the universe, they believe, has 11 dimensions. So that's 11 dimensions.

We're only in the third. There's 4, 5th, 6th, all the way up to 11 at least, or the universe he says would collapse. So if you're in a being in a higher dimension, you can see the past, present, and future all at once in the third. And if you say, that's an interesting place, I'd like to visit it. If you can actually create a phase shift in your atomic frequency to match the atomic frequency of this dimension, you can walk right in and then you can walk right back. And then you probably have something else that's outside of this entire universe that has a

capability. Maybe it's the creators of the universe itself, which is why I wrote the book, Fracto holographing universe. Maybe there's a creator or creator outside of this entire universe that has a hand in creating this ancestor universe itself. Well, it also makes sense that if you scaled intelligent life up infinitely, you're going to reach a point where you have God-like powers. This being or collection of beings, this hive mind, whatever it is.

Yeah. It could essentially, if given 100 million years, harness the very power of the universe itself or maybe even create the universe. And create other universes. Yeah. Yeah. Which is the ultimate mindblower, that intelligent life is the reason why this thing exists. Yeah. It creates this thing.

We're creating universes right now as human beings on this planet. 14 college kids created a video game called No Man Sky. No Man Sky is on one DVD disc and it has 80 quadrillion planets and unlimited life forms and the game never ends. We've talked about that, right? Yeah, that one's a weird one. Yeah, you put AI in it and what's going to happen. Right, scale up to a quantum computer. Now all of a sudden, we're going to have a virtual reality headset.

Boom. Yeah. The people went in there. Who are we? Where are we from? What is the Big Bang when we turn to Collins alone? That's the big bang for you. Sims.

The Sims are going to get AI now. They're going to be asking. questions. They're going to be creating your own software within the software and trying to build their own copy of a universe. We're not even close to base reality. We're literally living in a stacked reality. We're just one reality out of, who knows, Googles of actual realities that exist. Do you think the simulation theory has we? Oh, I believe so. I just wrote a book about it. Yeah, that's what, that's what Sherry was saying. Yeah, sorry. I was like, this is what gets me. No, it is. Which we won't talk about simulation.

theory yet for sure. But let's get to what he was talking about here. He believes there are three potential beings, physical beings multidimensional or God slash creators, right? And so physical beings, for example, actual physical beings that come from maybe other planets

or star systems. That would be like the grays, I think. The grays or maybe even human noise, the Ananaki, the whoever can harness technology from in a physical form to where they're literally traveling like you get in a vehicle, a spacecraft, yeah, or something.

And they land and they can actually abduct humans to experiment with them. Yeah, potentially. That's the grays. And then there's like the mean ones. I forgot what they're called. Well, they call them like the preying, the mantises, all these various things, right? So these are physical beings, right? These are literal things like us that are here on this planet that we build some type of craft here on Earth.

we have far enough technological advancement in aerospace that we have figured out a way to harness space or space travel to where we can get there pretty quickly. We can do it safely. And by the way, guys, we are so far behind on Earth in that physical realm. I would venture to say that we would probably be more likely to harness multidimensional travel before we do actually harness physical travel. Yeah, because we can't get to places unless. we go through like wormholes or anything, right? Yes, but yeah, I mean, you're right. I mean, maybe.

I mean, it just depends on the propulsion. It depends on how you actually, how you know and understand space and time and all those things. But yes, there's definite possibilities that physical beings could have harnessed ways to travel through the galaxies or through the universe through black holes. That is definitely a theory. It could be like in highway, like highway 95 or Interstate 95. Black holes could be that for certain beings. or actual physical beings. But then you've got multidimensional beings,

which is dimensions that we do not understand or comprehend or understand how it even works. Right. So as Billy Carson was saying here, we live in a three-dimensional world right now. We are in the third dimension. Everything we see is in the third dimension. Many people say that time potentially is in the fourth dimension.

Time is something that we don't and cannot completely understand. We have a way to measure it in our own lives, right, to where what time really means. And we measure that based on, essentially, we measure it based on when the sun comes up and when it goes down and what is a 24-hour cycle of the sun. That is how we measure time. Yeah, that is how we measure time. But the reality of what time really is is far beyond when the sun comes up on Earth,

when it goes down, and all those things in between. Time is so far more advanced. Time is easily manipulated. time is easily misconstrued in certain places in our universe. It is completely different as far as what it is here. Right. And we've talked about that many times. Yeah, it can be parallel.

Yeah, the movie, yeah, well, it could be linear. It could be whatever. But in the movie Interstellar, Interstellar really shows a good description of how time could really manipulate reality and how, like, even if you potentially go through a black hole, I think, actually, in my opinion, I think black holes is one of the biggest mysteries of our fourth dimension, which is time. And I know that black holes, if you think about them as being so crazy and outlandish and like what happens when you go through a black hole and can you even survive a black hole, many scientists don't know that. We don't know if physical beings could actually withstand going through a black hole. And what even happens if you did go through the black hole?

and interstellar does a pretty good job of trying to try to, I guess, conceptualize what may happen to you. Yeah. But I think it has to do with time is what I'm saying. But according to the movie I was watching, you know, where the black, how the black holes are formed when there's two solar systems that combine and they spiral or whatever. And then it has this deep, like, funnel that goes down. if a person was to go in that funnel, it stretches them and it would just pull them apart. What would? Is what is saying?

But then you also have to understand that what happens interdimensionally, what happens to your soul? And that's probably the same question. It happens if you get ripped apart in a car accident on Earth. Right. Would it be the same thing? But would your soul and energy react differently if you were ripped apart in a black hole versus in a car accident on Earth? Yeah, that's a good point. That's another question.

We don't know. But also, so multidimensional. We have multiple dimensions. We pretty much know that up to 11. And then you've got to think about the God creation type being, right? If you think about God, you think about the being that we think of the almighty powerful, the almighty all-knowing. That would be that third type of being, something that we can't even still comprehend,

but is the almighty, is the powerful, is the creator, is the thing that's even probably beyond the universe itself. And when we even think about the universe, guys, you guys could go crazy if you just lay in bed one night and try to think about how vast universe is. And especially if something could put the vastness of the universe in your brain for you to comprehend it, it might blow your brain out. Yeah, absolutely. And if you think about that 13 dimension, I think that's what we know we can go to is the 13 dimension, which would be God, the uppercase G. 11, it's 11. Sorry, 11, which is the uppercase D.

G, the major god. But Billy talks a lot about the other gods, the lowercase Gs that have become, you know, have come to Earth, like the Inaki. So that's where he was talking about God and gods. Yeah. You know, he calls gods like a lowercase G. And he calls God, the main God, uppercase G. Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, there are gods, ditties, potentially is what I think you're saying. Yeah. And then there is the God potentially, which is that third. type of being. Exactly. Exploration and colonization. So space exploration, they might have explored and colonized large portions of the galaxy, having established multi-planetary or even multi-star system civilizations, terraforming.

These civilizations could have had the capability of terraforming planets, making them habitable for their species or creating entirely new ecosystems. Now, there is a theoretical concept known as the Cardashev-Scev. that help frame these ideas, right? And so here are these ideas. And this is what, at least based on civilizations and types of civilizations, how advanced they could actually be. Now, one of the things that CERN has been doing over in Switzerland,

I think it's Switzerland. Anyways. Yeah. But what CERN has been doing, which is the large Hadron Collider, it is a particle collider. They're trying to figure out how many dimensions we actually have. They're trying to harness that. They're also looking for dark matter.

They're trying to figure out how our universe was created. They're looking for and have potentially found the Higgs bosom particle, also known as the God particle. All these things are to try to prove dimensions, right, and try to figure out what it is that we can't see and understand and comprehend. But some of these theoretical concepts is, number one, type one civilization. Type 1 civilization would harness all available energy on their home planet. That would be us. We're harnessing as much energy and resources as we can on our own planet. Now, I type 2 civilization would harness the energy of their star.

You know, for example, the Dyson spheres, or they would harness the power of, say, our own sun. Right? So if we could harness the power of our own sun to be able to use. utilize that for any and everything that we possibly need and do it efficiently, we could, I mean, just think about how much more advanced that makes us, right? You think about the space shuttle right now and how we have to use all this power to get us up. But if there's some way we could harness the sun's power to get these space shuttles out,

it'd be like night and day. Well, I mean, that's why we're always on the search for how do we, you know, it's like Elon Musk says, if we want to get to Mars, we're going to do it officially, and we get out, we got to utilize nuclear power. And if you think about nuclear and you look at the sun, there's obviously a lot of similarities there. So, yeah, that vision, that nuclear fission, we're right now on the cusp of, especially as far as travel goes, because it's far more advanced than what we were thinking about

as far as fuel, especially in space travel. Nuclear is the next step. And not to mention, we had a spaceship that went off today. It was Boeing, too. Yes, and it was Boeing and everything went great. And there were humans in there. I know, that's crazy. So I was like applauding when I saw that go up today.

I was so happy. Well, we're glad they didn't all die, yeah, for sure. Now, the type 3 civilization, they would be able to harness the energy of their entire galaxy, right? So think about just being able to harness the energy of your son. Think about us, which is where we're at. We are harnessing energy of our planet and resources of our planet. Then the type 2 civilization would harness their energy of their sun. Sun, type 3 civilization would harness the energy of their entire galaxy.

That's like us harnessing every star, every planet, every anything in our galaxy. And we believe there are theoretical scientists and people that out there believe that there are civilizations that do harness their entire galaxy. And not only their sun in their own solar system, but also every sun in the entire galaxy. Wow. And so that's when you start getting to like almost Godlike powers. But then if you even go far beyond that, to where there are civilizations that harness powers of multiple galaxies, and then whole regions of the universe. And then the far and far and far more advanced, you eventually get to a godlike God.

Yeah. And you have all an ultimate power. You can, and the way we don't understand and can't comprehend that is we're talking about multidimensional, physical. We're talking about atomic. We're talking about gravity. we're talking about every single thing, space, time, 11, probably 20 dimensions that we don't even understand or realize yet. So these are all the things. And humanity is currently below type 1, keep in mind.

I mean, but more advanced civilizations could be at type 2 or 3, wielding technology and power on a scale that seems almost godlike. And that's the speculations are based on our current understanding of physics and potential future advancements. And actual advanced civilizations might be even more extraordinary than we can even currently. conceive what we're even talking about what we're talking about right now. In the first clip, when we listened to Billy talking to, what's his name? What was his name? The first guy. Andrew.

Yeah, Andrew, sorry. When he was talking about, he was talking about this energetic, they can make themselves into an energetic light, meaning they can go out of their body and become this light and travel interdimensional. To me, when I see in the sky, when I see these weird things going on in the sky or things around me. When I see these things, I feel like that's what I'm seeing is it's advanced civilizations able to go out of their body and become this energetic light. Yeah, for sure. No, I agree. I mean, we don't know. I mean, is what we're seeing in the sky, these, these, all these things,

is that energy, is that things that they are, you know, manifesting themselves in some type of energy from a physical force or vice versa? We don't know. Even spacecraft. that are actual physical things that potentially crash here, that we've got reverse engineered or at least attempted to reverse engineer. Yeah, with that, number one. Yes. For sure, we don't know. So I want to get to this.

He also talks about Star Trek teleportation is coming. Beam me up, Scotty is what we're talking about here. Remember, beam me up, Scotty. Well, there is teleportation coming. And we think there is some science behind that. Check this out. Both talks about using cymatic frequencies and light waves to create manifest solid matter.

And what happened about four years ago in a laboratory, they used cymatic frequencies and photons to create solid matter out of nothing. Just happened about four years ago. What did they create? They just create a few particles, you know, but the fact that we can do it, but it was already in ancient text. Wow. So now we can do it on a very small scale, just like we can create Element 115 with a collider.

Correct. Same kind of thing. And it's a very small, unstable version of Element 115 that only exists for a fraction of a second, but they can measure it. With sufficiently advanced technology, you could create it and then form a stable version of that. Right. Imagine being able to build an entire city by manifesting the matter needed to build the city.

Jesus. Instead of harvesting the city from rock. 3D print the city with Ions. Nanobots. You would use nanobots to build the whole city. It would manifest as it went. And you could also use that to repair things. Absolutely.

So you would never have to have, like, instruction again, everything would be self-reparable. Correct. Self-repairable. Correct. Wow. Yeah. Well, of course.

If you just scale up, just think about what we can do now and keep going, make it much better and much more efficient. We're talking about programmable matter now. programmable matter. And what you were saying about DNA, the fact that you can encode into DNA and that you could actually hold information in DNA. Yeah. Microsoft has created the very first DNA hard drive. So it's a molecular hard drive. that works on technology that's hardware and also biological software.

And so a device, a hard drive, the size of my cell phone, can store an enormous amount of petabytes of data. So things like teleportation are going to be possible in the near future. We've already teleported, I think, a couple of particles from Earth to the space station, right? But what's stopping us from teleporting a human being, understanding and knowing the location of every atom and the rotation and spiramate of every atom? That's a lot of information, a lot of storage space.

Now with DNA hard drives, the storage space problem goes away. We'll be able to teleport biological beings or objects, big objects, into space or wherever we want on the planet. Like Star Trek. Like Star Trek. Whoa. Who's going to be the first guy to get beamed up? Somebody's going to be a real guinea pick for that one. Yeah, we're going to have to find some pedophiles.

Because when you teleport, you die. I don't know if people know that. Oh. Yeah. Well, that's a bit of an issue. Teleport. I mean, you're reborn again instantly in the other location, but it's a facsimile. of you. Anytime you teleport, even the molecules that we teleport now, the original version,

the original molecule or the starting matter, it's destroyed and the data is then transmitted and then it's reformulated. So a teleportation is actually the death of you and the reformation of you. Maybe they could do a better job, like an Instagram filter, you know? Maybe you could maybe it's just like tone a few things up, clean up a little bit. Get rid of some scars or whatever. Yeah, there's some body fat. Right, right. Maybe they can make a better version of you. But you have to be willing to die.

Yeah. Yeah, but maybe that's hell. Maybe you come back and you have no soul. Maybe when you teleport, your soul doesn't go with you. Well, they're transmitting your consciousness. So everything is saved. All the information is safe. All right.

So there you go. That's Billy Carson talking about teleportation. And, you know, one of the things that come to my mind when we're talking about teleportation, we know Billy Carson just said that we have teleported molecules to the space station. that means a actual physical cell, a thing that we have transported and teleported to the space station. So we know that's possible, right?

It reminds me, I hate to say this, guys, for those that have not followed MH370, the investigation of MS. 370 in Ashton Forbes, where these orbs, at least from this video that came out back in, I think it was 2014,

that showed potentially a, these four orbs that may, maybe teleported this Bowen 737 Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 this has been obviously a hot topic on the internet

it's been something that has blown up we were one of the first ones that had Ashton Forbes on the podcast we were the first podcast had Ashton Forbes on ever since then he has taken this investigation far and beyond he has

researched all the science behind teleportation all this stuff now are the video is real in the MH370 videos, I don't know, but at the very least, when you talk about teleportation, which is essentially kind of what we're talking about here with MH370, you have to at least acknowledge and understand that these capabilities are very possible in today's world. I mean, things that we thought are outlandish and crazy and beam me up, Scotty, and all this stuff, that's no longer science fiction.

We're literally living in a reality where our technology is getting so far advanced. and we just sit here and think that we're still so far behind the curb. Now, I think people's understanding of what we actually harness and the weaponry that we harness, I think that that is very possible that we don't understand or can perceive how far advanced we are. But I also think, you know, look in the Ashton's case and regardless of what people think about the MS-370 videos and whether they're real or not, the amount of hate and the amount of shit that has come out against Ashton because he has been, he truly believes these videos are real. He's done any and everything to try to at least prove the science behind why and how these

videos could be real. And as, and as Billy says right here, if you teleport something, you're not going to be alive, but you will re-manifest yourself on the other side if you do it the way that it sounds like science knows how to do it. And that's why I think Ashton has said numerous times that, if the MRI 370 video is real, if this plane was teleported for whatever reason possible,

are those people alive? I don't know. Maybe their selves died and then they reincarnated or somehow came back. It's a very weird theory. And Sherry, don't you, I mean, I think Ashton 100%

believes the video is real. But I think, furthermore, I think he's done a lot to prove the videos or at the very least, the science behind why they could be real is real. Absolutely. And in the beginning when Ashton was saying that this was, you know, advanced technology from us and it wasn't something from outer space or an alien or something, it was very hard for me to understand because I knew we had reverse technology. I know from Area 51. We've been doing this from the 1930s, 1940s. We've been trying to take this technology that we have that is not from this earth and recreating it. And so that was my whole thing when Ashton was talking about. I'm like, no, this is aliens.

Aliens did this. You know, these are the orbs. I'm used to seeing these orbs. It's the same orbs that I've seen, you know, in every video. And I've seen with my real eyes. So it's got to be aliens. But then after Ashton explains it and it's way deep past my head, even explaining how all that works. So I was like, okay, let me reconsider my, you know, my theory.

of my thoughts. Okay. Because most people don't know that, you know, what Ashton's talking about even possibly exist. Yes. And you have to be, you know, out there and listening and gathering information to even understand that. If you don't have the first part of the information, you're definitely not going to have the fifth part of, you know, the information, you know.

Yeah. So after Ashton explained to me how it could be our technology and why and how, you know, and he, and I'm not even going to go into the. scientific stuff because that's not my realm. But after he explained it, I was like, okay, that makes sense. It really could be us. Yeah. And that's where I stand.

I know for sure the videos are real. I, you know, I still want to say it as aliens, but, you know, Ashton says it's our technology and we did this. I still don't know the why behind it. And I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, there's been, I've been seeing it, which by the way, there was a reward on that video on the MH370 video.

videos. We were actually contributor of that award. Kim.com was a contributor of the award reward. I see there have been some accounts recently that have been talking crap about, you know, supposedly the rewards have been, you know, Ashton is still talking about these rewards. Well, first of all, the reward was for anyone that had those original source files or the videos, whoever created the videos just to come forward. You make $150,000. No one ever has come forward. There was one guy that says, oh, I took the pictures. supposedly that was in the background in this video, which is there's a lot of craziness behind even those pictures, a lot of speculation.

There's a lot of anomalies around the website where these pictures came from. There was missing data. There's all kinds of stuff. So that was also very interesting. All I'm saying is, is that I can tell you this. There is a huge pushback against Ashton or anyone that says that this is U.S. government technology. And that's, you know, I've never seen more pushback against Ashen and his scientific perspective

on why these videos may be real. And even the UFO community, it's almost like someone has come in. There are debunkers out there that almost have a mission to say, guys, we are going to attack Ashton. He is a psychopath. He is, you know, they're trying to discredit him as much as they can. And I don't want to stay on this to Ashton topic in Numberst 370, but nonetheless.

But you got to listen to Billy. He agrees with him that USA, America, and probably other. other countries have this technology. That's what he's saying. We got this technology from somewhere that is not of Earth. Yeah. He's saying that. Well, listen, right here in this next clip we're about to play you, is crazy American

weapons technology. And so as we're talking about a Stimran Street 70 thing, advanced technology, here's what Billy had to say about advanced U.S. weapons. That's exactly what happened in the Emerald Talbets. You know, 36,000 years ago, though he arrives. in this place called the land of Kemp, ancient Kemet, before it was known as Egypt. His father sent them on a mission to rebuild civilization back up to a high level, meaning that it already was at a high level prior to this flood situation.

And he says he gets into the great ship of the master, and he takes off into the sky until the earth disappears. And then he goes to the plaint appointed, and he sees beneath him the children of the land of Kim. And he descends down. He doesn't sail in. He descends down. And when his ship lands, he opens his doors, and he comes out.

with his crew, and he says the barbarians came at him to attack him with clodgles and spears. He says, I raised my staff and sent that array of vibrations, stopping him still as fragments of stone of the mountain. So he had a stun gun. He had a weapon that there was, you know, not Ruth, not lethal, non-lethal weapon that can freeze you in your tracks. And we have something just like that now in the military called the active denial system. They can send a beam and a crowd coming to attack and make them stop still right in their tracks. They can make you feel like you're on fire, make you feel like you're on fire, make you feel like you want to vomit.

They can even put voices in your head. They can make you be an extreme, extreme pain. It's called the active denial system. So he's talking about technology back then that we have right now. Dude, look up that. Do you think that's what that Havana syndrome thing is? It's possible, man. This thing, if you put it above, like in the sky and aiming at an area and it beams spreads a little bit,

you can create mass illness, mass sickness, mass hysteria. You can have everyone running around thinking that they've got somebody talking, talking to them and telling commanding them to do certain things. It's out of control. This weapon can be fully weaponized in a lethal way and a way that can make people become psychotic. You can make somebody think they're burning it on fire. Whoa.

Active denial system demo. All right. So, and what they're about the show here, by the way, are videos of this system that as they put people in front of this system, they cannot stand it. They cannot bear whatever the frequent. or that signal that that system is being put out. It almost looks like, you know, a military truck. It has some type of radar type device or, or.

It's a beam. Yeah, it's a beam. But it's coming from a radar type. I mean, it looks like a radar on the back of a military truck. And so as these people enter that force filled, they are not able to sustain whatever that filling is. As Billy Carson says here, it's like a burning filling. It's, they can even potentially make them think crazy thoughts and all this.

other stuff. And then you think about Havana syndrome. Havana syndrome, the United States government has been saying that Russia or some other foreign adversaries has this device, this microwave system, this directed energy weapon to where they can make people think they're going crazy. And it has been

potentially used on CIA officers. It has been used on government officials more in particular. Has this been used on populations around the world? We don't know. But at the very least, we 100% know that this has one 100% been used on CIA or three-letter agency agents or officers.

But if you listen to Billy in the earlier part of the podcast, when he's talking about the Anaki, he's talking about, you know, they kind of harvest humans to do the work. And they're going to talk about gold mines. I don't know if we'll get to that thing. But that whole purpose was for them to mine gold mines because I think it had something to do with the atmosphere or whatever. But anyways, what they did is they used this. this technology to make them worship the Anaki.

So they wanted to do it for them besides saying they're slaves and they have to do it. It gave them that want feeling. And it's the same technology that he was talking about, you know, way back then. Yeah, that's a good point, actually, because to your point, not only can this technology or this weapon be used to disperse you or to make you leave or to make you feel like you are dying or burning or whatever the case may be, you can also utilize systems like this to make you believe in something that maybe you don't necessarily believe in. Maybe you're doing something that you think that you shouldn't be doing if you were not a part

of the system, but it's going to make you all of a sudden feel like you're worshipping or wanting to do this thing, right? And so, you know, you might think of that today as like mass formation psychosis, where you create this belief, you say it, enough times and then as long as enough people are saying it, then everyone will start to believe it. But this is particular in any form of a weapon to where you don't have to have mass formation. You just have to utilize this actual signal or this device to implant or imprint a thought

in your head to where it is now your thought. It's like brainwashing. Yeah. And he's thinking about, you know, he's saying there's a worship gene in a. us from the Anuki or whatever they're called. And Anaki, yeah. And because of that, we will worship, and that's the reason why we have religion. Yeah, absolutely.

And that's why he is not about religion at all. Well, see, and here's the thing about religion for me. And we're going to play this clip in just a second about, you know, how did the Bible rip off the epic of Giglamish or Gygamesh? You know, I, religion has obviously been something that we've struggled with and talked about. and we've had episodes on this podcast about religion. And listen, some of these things that Billy Carson says, I don't know if I agree or disagree. I don't want to disagree with Billy Carson because I do more so believe in religion and

God and certain books or certain theories or certain historical texts, especially as far as the Bible goes. But obviously, you know, with any belief or anything that you wholeheartedly believe in, you always have to continually question it. You have to look at all of the evidence presented, and then you've got to make an informed decision. And I always try to do that. Sherry and I always try to do it on a daily basis.

Sometimes we get into the superficial stuff about like what's going on today, even if it's about Israel, because Sherry comes from a Jewish family, where I come from a Christian family. And although if we think about that, it is kind of superficial in some ways. If you really think about like what the ancient system or beliefs or where this even came from is. And I think that's what he's talking about as far as did the Bible rip off the epic of Gilgamesh. And this is the next clip we'll play to you guys. I think this is very interesting. We'll break this down. This will be the last clip. Probably we'll talk about this. Or we'll talk about this episode. But I think Billy Carson is extremely smart. I think he's,

I think he's researched his entire life. He's written four books. He's been in Harvard, and MIT and all this stuff. Does that mean that everything is saying is true? No. Does that mean any of our opinions or thoughts are true? No. But we're all trying to figure out life. We're all trying to figure out reality.

And listen, you got to at least respect and listen to people that have far more research or have done far more research than you have. And if you want to try to understand better than they do, do more research. And that's what I always say to myself. If I want to know more than someone else, get smart. And that's, I think, what Billy Carson tries to do. But here's this clip on Did the Bible Rip Off the Epic of Gilgamesh. These ancient languages like cuneiform.

Can you read that? Do you know how to read it? Yeah, a small amount of it, yeah. Studying it from books that I had bought right off of Amazon. Oh. Yeah. So basically you take a stick. It looks like a stick with a kind of a curved end, right?

Almost sharpened. It's called a stylus. And then you... Just like a stylus for an iPad. Exactly. Very similar, right? And then you take a piece of a wet clay, and right before it's too wet or too dry, right in the middle stage, you then start wedging, making these incredible lines into the clay. And then from that, you get this cuneiform text. So this text literally, you know, some of the letters actually relate to complete ideas. But it's incredible work, and it takes a long time to do. And then you have to let this thing dry, and then it becomes stone. So, you know, if people, were supposed to be trying to worry about how they're going to get their next meal, shelter for the night and all these kind of things. Who has time to sit down and write these incredible works of art like the Epic of Gilgamesh,

for example? Yeah. I think they really were writing down and also they were transcribing information that was given to them by these quote-unquote gods with the lowercase G. So when you're reading things like the Epic of Gilgamesh, the Epic of Gilgamesh, the Epic of Gilgamesh, for people don't know, is one of the oldest versions of a lot of the stories that you hear in the Bible. Very similar to them.

They seem to be, there always seems to be a great flood. There's a few heroes. There's angry gods. There's a bunch of stuff going on. And Zacharii Sitchin's work was like the most controversial on the Sumerian text, right? Because there's a whole website called sitchin has wrong.com. People go crazy about him.

But when he starts talking about it, when you read some of the things that they wrote and when you see like some of the images that they created, the images that look like the double helix from DNA. And there's a bunch of the, like that now we represent, the Caduceus, which represents pharmacies and drugs. Like that's the old version of an image of the double helix of DNA, or at least it looks super similar to that. Oh, it definitely is because it's a reference even in the Egyptian book of the dead

in other ancient texts. So there's no coincidences here. Now, Zacharias Sitchin, you know, I don't particularly. go by his work. Not because it's controversial. I believe he was one of the greatest researchers of all time. And the reason why is because he laid out so much information for us to begin to scratch ahead and ask questions. But what I figured out was that by going through the UCLA-CDLI online Cuneiform Digital Library, say that fast 10 times, I was able to take Stone Tabas and decipher them myself. So anyone can go online to the UCLA-CDLI online Cuneiform Digital Library

and read these stone tablets for themselves. You don't need Zachary's Hitchin. You don't need anyone else. And as I began to break these tablets down. Do they have them transcribed, or are you reading the actual tablet? They transcribe them. They actually transcribe them into English for you. Is there controversy as far as, like, are there different versions of the transcription?

Like, does some people think it's interpreted differently? It's like some debate about that? Only where it comes to where some of the text is missing. There could be pieces chipped off of tablets. You see that corner missing from that tablet right there. an epic of milk a mesh. Just look how wild is that? Yeah.

Just how wild is that that exists? Yeah. And that this was, it's so hard for people to put in their brain five thousand years of time. Yeah. And that there's these people that have this very bizarre language. Like when you look at that language, we don't even know what it sounds like, right? Right.

No. And the language popped up out of nowhere. You know, you're talking about a civilization that appeared out of nothing. It looks like computer code. It does. Doesn't it? Yes, it does. I just imagine like a human being deciding that they were going to write down in these very bizarre.

And they all agreed that all these things mean a certain thing. So they had to somehow or another have a Rosetta Stone or something where they're documenting it so that people can learn it and teach it. And then we're looking at it five thousand years later. Yeah. It's so amazing. It is. And what's incredible is this text was translated in 1800s long before Zacharii Sitchin was born. So there are some, you know, some rumors that, oh, he was the only one that could decipher these tablets.

We'll know George Smith, who worked as an seriologist and wrote many books and deciphered these Samarian tablets in the 1800s. So we're talking about texts that had been deciphered for a few hundred years, nothing that was just deciphered recently. So when, what are the first decipherings? Like, what year was the first deciphering? It was in 1800. I don't have to, I think around 1850, George Smith. He actually worked at the, I believe it was Cambridge. What was his take?

Like, when he's reading all these wacky stories and all the Ananaki stuff, like, what's his take on it? He is literally subscribing to this information, the way almost that you and I see it today. These people saw something, experienced something, interacted with something. And he cataloged, and it inspired him to write a complete translation of the Enuma Elish and the Seven Tablets of Creation. And he talks about the fact that that information that was copied right from those tablets and put into the Old Testament of the Bible. And so, you know, not exactly like it's going to go from here to the Bible, but it went into other ancient papyruses and scriptures and so forth.

And then later on when it was discovered in caves, people took those and then said, okay, we got to put this into a book. And then it became the Bible much later around 100 AD. But he subscribed to the theory that these people interacted with beings in some ways that before him. And that also this information is so incredible that it became part of the, you know, the biblical text. Did you ever read the Dead Sea Scrolls? Yes, yeah. So the Dead Sea Scrolls, what was it found in? What year was that?

It was in Coomron, right? It was Coomran, but I think, again, this was also, I believe, in the late 1800s or early 1900s. Is when they found them. So these things are written on animal skins, and this is the only, I mean, this is a very, old version of those exact same stories or some of similar stories. There's a lot of weirdness in the Dead Sea Scrolls. I haven't read it, but is there any references to anything that's similar, like Anonaki type characters, the Nephilim or anything like that in the Dead Sea Scrolls?

They show up everywhere. And the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Inumiliq and the Ebukabatra sees. Of course, even in the Bible, they're known as the Anak, A-N-A-K. We were grasshoppers in their eyesight, it says, in the biblical text. So no matter where you go in any culture, you're going to discover that these beings in some way or shape or form engaged mankind, brought knowledge, teaching, building techniques, and just so much more wisdom and information, esoteric wisdom, alchemy, all these things came from these people. So the craziest version of this story is that they genetically engineered us out of lower primates and put us here to mine gold. Right. And then establish.

All right. So there you go. And that's Joe talking about, they, you know, they, they, they send us here to harvest gold and mine gold. All of this is, you know, you're going to think about this, this ancient text, right? This is 5,000 plus years ago. The deciphering here. I got to ask the question here first. The deciphering is obviously at question.

How did they decipher it? Who deciphered it? and how they know what I actually said. We don't know, but what I can tell you is that they're trying to contribute it to the Old Testament of the Bible, and they're saying that it is extremely old text far before the Bible existed, right? Now, listen, that could all very well be true. And one of my always, I guess the big intentions of the Bible in general has been that the science community has always said that, listen, you know, Jesus time, three and four thousand years ago, you know, or God times, right,

the Old Testament and all this. And then they talk about, for example, the dinosaurs. The science always wants to use the dinosaurs millions of years ago. And if you read the Bible, they always try to correlate the fact that dinosaurs existed and millions of years ago that the Bible can't be real because dinosaurs were millions of years ago. But we also understand that if you read the Bible and you, and you listen to many scholars around the world.

One of the main things in the Bible, I think that most scholars, Bible scholars, for example, believe that the Bible got wrong, at least, is how they dated and the numbers and time frames of when they said or how they said certain things in the Bible, including numbers of people, including how many years and so on and so forth. So the deciphering of the Bible obviously is one question. Number two is how they actually mathematically said things, or whether it was how many people was there, whether it was how many days or months or years, for example. And all of these things have always been in question.

But at the very least, even if these old tablets, 5,000 years ago, which they say that the Bible potentially ripped off and they used very similar stories in the Bible itself. just the Bible, the Old Testament. And I think that makes complete sense. Because if you think about the Old Testament and the New Testament, those are way out. You know, they're different. They're very different. The Old Testament is like the beginning of time as we know it.

Well, not according to this. Yeah, I know. The Giggle Mesh was the beginning of time. Yeah. And if they're taking these tablets and saying this is what happened. Yeah. And what was before that, by the way? I mean, you got to ask yourself that.

So these tablets, what was before those tablets? There was no tablets before that. Well, there probably was. We have seen. Yeah, but there probably was. Like, where was the story before that? Right? And where was the story before that one?

It's kind of like the universe in some ways. It's like, you know, you don't, you think that you understand the universe, but you don't. And so the Bible is the most modern version of spirituality or of historical religious text. Yes. But then before this, the Giggle Mesh, and then even before that, well, we don't know. But was there something that something got from there? And if all of these things were translated even closely, right? Yeah.

You know, there's obviously something there. We just don't know what. We're not saying the Bible isn't real. No. Because as as. But we're saying that maybe the Old Testament is not real because they stole these stories from the tablets. No, no. I'm not saying that.

I'm saying that the Old Testament is just as real as anything else. What I'm telling you is that in particular, though, the Old Testament, you know, these tablets were potentially the precursor to the Old Testament. I'm not saying that the Old Testament's not real. I'm just saying that potentially the Old Testament may have been written based on the old tablets, the old stories. Yeah, exactly. Even though the Old Testament and the Bible does not read it like that. They read it as witnesses of these events. in history.

Well, even the Tara papers or the Indian, you know, the Indian translations. Samarians and all that. Yeah. What I'm saying is the Old Testament to me is the oldest testament based on tablets that we have. Yeah, but, but we get, wait, wait, wait, wait, but no one has said, but Sherry, no one has ever said that Old Testament was based on older tablets. Well, this is what he is saying. Yeah, exactly.

Billy is saying that they, the Bible took these stories from these tablets. tablets and put it into the Old Testament. So if that's the case, that's the oldest reading we have as civilization that we know. But when you go from the Old Testament to the New Testament, the New Testament is within our times. You know, there's so many years between the two. Yeah. So to me, what is telling me is I have to believe the Old Testament more than anything because it came from these old tablets.

Maybe. I mean, I don't know. I mean, you can look at that in whatever way that you, you know, you kind of perceive that or, or I guess comprehend that. I guess my thing is, though, more in particular is, you're right. I mean, I think ancient text, Old Testament, at the very least, I would have to look up anything beyond. Like, I would have to look fully into what we don't know.

I mean, we haven't necessarily read it ourselves. But the very least, Old Testament. it seems like there were older text before the Old Testament that potentially the Bible took and said, hey, this is what the story is. But according to our Bible, and this is the big, big topic, according to our Bible, the Holy Bible, or the Torah, or whatever the case may be, it is their personal experiences back during this particular time. And if you believe Billy Carson's story, that is not the case.

No, that's not what he said. Yes, it is. He said they took it from these tablets, these old tablets that, They transformed and figured out the language. And they transformed the language into stories that they put in the Old Testament. Yes. But you also understand that any Jewish person or especially people that believe in Old Testament is going to tell you that this was their ancestors. This is the people that witnessed this and were a part of this.

And if you believe Billy Carson's story with these old tablets, that was not the case. This was far before their time. Oh, before religion. Yes. Of course. Yes. It was far before the Jewish people. the Jewish people or anything.

Yeah, I think these tablets are way before religion, and that's why he has a problem with religion in general. He does not believe in religion. He believes in God with the uppercase G, and he believes in gods with the lowercase G that I was telling you before about. But also, if you listen to the Bible, Sherry, it tells you the exact same thing. The Bible literally tells you the exact same thing as what he's saying. He's just saying in a different way.

The Bible talks about the Egyptian gods, for example, which is what the people believed were gods, which were the rulers over the land. And there were many gods throughout the earth throughout the time. The people believe those people were gods. And even in the Bible, it says that these rulers are considered gods. No, he's talking about the Anaki. The Anaki people, the people that came from heaven to earth.

That's what he's talking about. He's talking about angels. He's talking about Nephlem. He's talking about things that we've never experienced in our life. But I'm saying these people probably experienced things that we never experienced before. I know. I get it. But I'm listening to me.

I'm trying to explain something to you that I'm trying to listen. The Bible talks about specifically, God says that people believe in gods and God, when God came down during the flood and during the, you know, not only the flood, but the, the 10 plagues and all the things that the Egypt got to release the Jewish. people. In the Old Testament, it says that I'm going to prove to these gods, quote unquote, that they are not the God. The God. I am the God. Which is the Big G. Right. Which is what Billy Carson is saying in an old text in this tablet form. But the actual Bible says the exact same thing. And when God says to these gods, lowercase G, that, hey, I am the God. But then when God came down and proved to them that you are not the God, I am the God. Regardless of how you look at this religiously. We're talking about, we're talking about universally. We're talking about the

context of life as we potentially even possibly have any text to know what, what, what a God or gods could be or historical text and maybe where we came from. I think it is, if you look at the Glygamesh and look at the text in the ancient tablets versus what the Old Testament says and a lot of that stuff, the Old Testament, I'll be honest with you. When I read the Old Testament, there's a lot of things in there. We have episodes on this where I question the hell out of the Old Testament because there's a lot of things in there that God tells, especially the Jewish people, the Israelites, to do. And I'm just like, how would God tell them to do this? Okay.

Well, if you listen to the whole podcast that he was talking about, he said God is the only one that can create good and evil. He says that in the Bible. Well, I think you have to have number one good and evil for the world to work, actually, which is weird. Like, there's always been the question, can you have good without evil? And I don't know what the question is, but we do know that from the very beginning, if you believe in the Bible at all, there's always been evil. Yeah, but you have to believe in day and night, good and evil, light in darkness. It all goes with the Bible. Yeah.

So, but I think that answers the question of can you have only good? without evil. Well, and I think that his, that it was his point. Like, could of God be, I don't, I don't even get this. Like, I don't even want to say that, but. But you can say whatever you want to say. I mean, well, his

his words were, is God real? And is God Satan? I don't know. I mean, that's ridiculous. I just saw that in like a headline. I don't even know if that's true or not. I mean, I just read it when I was trying to research. And I don't even want to put those words

in his mouth because I don't know. All I know is he is not a religion believer. He's a spiritual believer. I think this guy believes in God, but he doesn't believe in the gods. And when he's talking about the gods, he's not talking about the Egyptians, babe. He's talking about the Anaki. He's talking about the Nephom. He's talking about the people are the things that came from heaven to earth. That's what he's talking about. This is what the tablets are talking about. They're not talking about gods as Egyptians. They're talking about things that came from another world to earth. Yeah, I don't know.

I mean, I guess, I guess, but my point is, is like, if you read the Bible, it talks about the deities or the gods on earth or whatever the case may. And by the way, maybe the things that came down from the heavens as your point is the gods, the lowercase G's. Yeah. But there is a one God. And that one God is the creator of the universe. Yeah, the creator of the universe. And so if you go to the dimension. the God type power.

I still think even no matter how you look at this stuff, guys and girls, no matter how you look at any of this, all of these theories that we're talking about, even though I don't know how religious Billy Carson is, which we're going to get him on the podcast. Sorry, I'm still a little sick. But I still think that it all still points to the reality that there is a God. There is something.

And this God, He points out a very, very, very good point. This God, when he talks about the three forms of what's visiting us, the physical outside our universe and then the creator outside of our universe. Yeah. The creator outside our universe is God. That is the main God that he's talking about. And that's why he's not into the religion because religion, you've got to believe in all

this stuff that the Bible says, all these rules. all these rules, blah, blah, blah. But what he's saying is there is a creator of the universe that was outside the universe. There's a bunch of gods that came to our universe or came to Earth or whatever. And these are gods that God created. Potentially, yeah. I agree. And this is a very, very complex subject, right?

And you could get to so many different things here. we were going to try to get Billy Carson on on this podcast and talk to him in depth about some of these questions because I think that there's one there's well number one I think Joe Rogan in my opinion guys and for those for those of you that love Joe Rogan you're probably listening to this episode because you like Joe Rogan I think Joe Rogan did not go down the rabbit hole like he could have with Billy Carson and I think Andrew Schultz did as much as he could and I think even Andrews in that clip that we played you earlier. And he says that we're not fact-checking shit. We want you to, we want you to go as

deep as you can go because we want to, we want to get everything. And by the way, deeper. Yeah, I think we can too. And I think to Andrew Schultz point, which I don't love Andrew Schultz that much in certain scenarios, I've seen him on a couple podcasts. That was not very impressed with kind of how, I don't know, how he portrayed himself. But nonetheless, I think Andrew Schultz did a good job. I think he's a great comedian, by the way. I think he's funny. I think he did a better job in this scenario than Joe Rogan did. I want to get Billy Carson on for us to kind of dive into this entire concept of what he believes. We would probably do that on our YouTube channel, which we're about to launch next week.

So we're going to get Billy Carson on. We'll probably release that obviously also on audio, but we would love to have him on video or maybe even in person and then kind of show and go really in depth of some of the the stuff that I don't think Joe Rogan did very well to go in depth with. Andrew Schulz did a pretty good job on a lot of things. I think honestly, like if we were going to break down an episode to where it's more entertaining or interesting, it would be the Andrew Schultz episode. But nonetheless, we're breaking down to Joe Rogan episode because it is the big thing.

Joe is the number one podcast right now. I just think that Joe could have dived deeper with certain things. And I think Joe in a lot of ways is trying to, he wants a safe face because he wants to wants to be credible. He is, he believes that he is the number one source of media. And he is, by the way.

So he doesn't want to go too far down rabbit holes. And once you start getting that big, you don't want to appear to be out there. Well, when media went after him during the pandemic and said, he was only getting right wing people in right persons. And, you know,

he was not getting the other side of the story. You know, he had to look at himself and say, okay, you know, you're right. I was getting these people that I believe in more than the people that I don't believe in. Yeah. So I got to bring these people that I don't believe in and try to agree with them is what he was kind of doing. Yeah, for sure.

No, I agree. I agree. But that's going to be it for this episode, guys. Hey, listen, Sherry, I'm very excited to go on a Bigfoot hunt with you. I am excited for people to see you scared out of your ass because, by the way, guys, what I will say is we have a location set up for the Bigfoot hunt. I told Sherry earlier today, I said, unfortunately for us, the Bigfoot hunt is, it is a prime location. People I potentially saw Bigfoot's in this area in North Carolina, by the way.

But also, I have been camping in this area. I have been hiking and backpacking this area. Let me tell you what I have seen. I have came around a corner in this area. I will never forget this shit, besides the devil worship and stuff that happened also that night, which is a whole other story. But I've come around a corner about five or six miles back on this trail. And we were just walking along. And there's kind of like as you're walking along this trail, there's like a berm kind of like this about three or four foot high to the right.

So and then you have the woods. So it looks like they cut out the trail through the woods essentially. So you have like a three or four foot berm on both sides. And as I'm walking around this corner, I hear something just is almost like a. startled something, right? You could hear something being startled. And it just, you can hear the leaves. And I look to my right and there's this giant bear. I'm talking about a black bear that's laying on the freaking ground. And he's laying there. And I look at him and he looks at me, we're probably about 30 feet from each other. And my number one thought in my head, they always tell you,

don't run from bears. And what was my number one thing I did? 100% ran from this damn bear. Are you kidding? I took my backpack off and hauled ass because I knew that I was going to be faster than this dude. I don't give a damn because I knew I was going to be faster than whoever I was with, which was I was a two guys. Your friends were going to get English of you. I knew I was faster than they were. I freaking knew I was faster than they were. And so I ran and I was hoping when I got to end the trail that they were still alive.

because as we turn this corner, he like puts his head up. And I swear to God, he was the biggest bear I've ever seen. I mean, even like, I mean, he was huge. And the weird thing was in North Carolina, you have black bears. You don't have grizzly bears. But this bear was a brownish color, which was interesting. For those of you, I don't know, biologist or whatever, you can tell me why. It's a difference between brown and black bears.

Well, I don't know. I mean, but I think it was probably still a black bear. I just think that for some reason this fur was brownish. But regardless, it was shedding. Yeah, it was huge. And I saw this thing. He looked at me and I looked at him. And we were in about two or three, four, five seconds.

We were deciding what we're going to do. He was deciding if he was going to eat me. And I was deciding if I was going to run. And I freaking took the first step. With that being said, I hope that depends. We'll sponsor us during this mission. Maybe. Because I'm going to have to be wearing them.

So guys, I guess the point is that even if we don't- Because I might shit my pants. Yeah, even if we don't find a big foot, we're definitely probably going to find a bear. So it'll still be interesting, guys. We love you. Until next time, peace out. Peace out, guys.