Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Joe Rogan Podcast Breakdown | Ancient Apocalypse | Ancient Aliens

Episode Date: November 14, 2022

On a recent episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, Graham Hancock came on the show to discuss his new Netflix series titled, Ancient Apocalypse. In this series, Graham and researchers from around the world discuss the possibility of an ancient civilization that was far more advanced than we currently are. Could this explain the ancient alien theory? Or could this even be linked to the UFOs we are seeing today. All of that and more on this Joe Rogan Podcast Breakdown

Oh, hello. Welcome to Investing Earth Podcast. I'm your host, Chad, alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. Aw, happy birthday to Chad. Everyone today is Chad's birthday, so let them know. You say happy birthday, but anyways, by the way, I have not heard from any of you yet today on my birthday. I'm just kidding. Well, how would they know, Chad?

I know. That's why they know now, right? They would not know. It is Chad's birthday. It's kind of been a crazy weekend, so. We won't even go there. But now we're dealing with a sick beagle on Chad's birthday. Sick dog, yeah, sick dog.

Yeah, but it's all good, man. We're alive. We're alert. We're enthusiastic. We're ready for this episode. This is going to be a good episode, guys. We're going to talk about it and we're going to break down the Joe Rogan podcast where he had Graham Howe and his partner that was also featured in the show of ancient apocalypse. We're going to talk about that.

We're going to tell you what our thoughts are on this. Now, obviously, Joe Rogan had. Graham McDow or not Graham McDowell oh my god I'm already saying wrong names and I can't even help you Graham Hancock why can I remember his name I don't know I can't even oh my gosh Hancock yeah like Hancock we're never superhero no I'm thinking James hang like the the writing no okay I don't have I'm thinking like dirty mind okay Hancock now do you get yeah not really now I'm not going to forget it anyway so we're going to talk about uh The podcast episode in particular, we're going to also talk about the Netflix series, which you guys can go check out.

It is ancient apocalypse on Netflix. I think it went live Friday. So, yeah, we're going to talk about that, guys. We've also been doing Rumble. We've been doing a little bit of Rumble video. We're over there and just trying to give you guys something video-wise. Now, what we did find out is a lot of you, most of you. Majority.

Do not watch video, right? So you guys mostly listen to us audio, and that's fine. And we're going to make sure that we take care of you audio listeners. We're going to make sure that, you know, look, this is where we started. This is for four years ago. Audio has always been our thing. And we're always going to make sure audio's there. Yeah.

And I actually like audio way better because, I don't know, I feel like I can be more myself instead of like staring at a camera the whole time we're talking. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, it is true. And it's like you can't move your hands a certain way or do things that y'all can't see. Yeah, yeah. Now, I've almost like threw the damn computer screen off the table before. in audio because my hands sometimes just go all over the place.

But on camera, you're just trying your best of like, okay, control your hands. It's like the Ricky Bobby Talladega Knights, you know, when he was a race car driver and he's like going through interviews and shit and he keeps like putting his hands in camera as he's being interviewed. And they're like, Ricky, put your hands down when you're talking. He's like, I don't know what to do my hands. He's like, just put him down by your side. So then they would like interview him again and his hands. that come back in the camera. That's what I feel like on camera.

Like you do weird shit on camera that you will not do otherwise. Oh, I know. And then you're like, you're trying to like get a sneak peek of what you look like. And then your eyes are on the camera. No, Sherry, I think it was the interview we did with Dark Horse Allies. You were like, she's the one that told me. She's like, don't look at the screen because we're looking at the camera. And then she looked at the freaking screen the whole time.

But I thought it's because we went with his webcam that it would be like, on the screen for some reason. I don't know why. So that's why I didn't even look at the camera. Not once, but... It's all good. That's okay. I did on the other ones, but I didn't really like it because I feel like, I don't know.

But we're going to have fun. We're going to have fun this episode, guys. For those of you that are new, listen to us, we talk about all kinds of stuff. So if you guys like to listen, some of you may be coming over from searching Joe Rogan, right? Because I'm a decent marketer. And so for those of you that are coming over, from Joe, we talk a lot about the stuff that Joe Rogan talks about. We dive pretty deep in the stuff. We do have guests from time to time, but we try to dive deep, man. We're not like,

look, if you're coming to this podcast to get some kind of crazy intellectual off-the-cuff thing, we do that sometimes. We get deep with how we feel about life and how we see life. But yeah, I mean, if you like the UFO and alien stuff, if you like the Bigfoot stuff, which we don't do a lot of. We do have two episodes, but I do want to retouch on Bigfoot here coming soon. We talk about a little bit of everything. We do talk politics. We talk about the New World Order. We talk about the Great Reset.

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Like whatever, dude. I'm just, man, there's so many. There's so many. But it's okay. We don't care. It's good. It's all good. Just the mic a little bit.

All right. It's all good. So guys, but listen, before we, before we get any further, if you want to follow us and, like, reach out to us and you want to kind of have a connection with us a little bit, look, Twitter is free. It is a free state right now. The people got unlocked from their chains, and now they're free people on Twitter. Yeah. Whether you like it or. Let it sink in.

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So here's the deal. Let me ask you, Sherry, because Sherry has been watching in and out a little bit of the ancient apocalypse episode. It's a series on Netflix. But Sharon, let me ask you, before even watching that, right? Before watching Ancient Apocalypse, which is a series on Netflix, before anything you heard on Joe Rogan podcast,

what did you think about, I guess, ancient civilization, and what have you been taught in school? And, like, what is that, what is that whole thing? Like, if you think back in our history of civilization as a piece, people as human beings, what comes to your mind and forget everything you've watched or heard,

but what comes to your mind just typically? Typically without knowing anything that I do now with our podcast, like what I grew up thinking? Is that what you're saying? Well, unfortunately, I barely passed high school because I never went to class. So I don't really know a lot about what we studied at social studies. Sherry's like, my mom was Eve. You know, Adam and Eve? I think that was my mom.

I remember in college, I did live, I learned about the Spartans and the Athens and all that stuff. I learned about that stuff. Well, that's what I'm asking you. I mean, as far as all, I don't know, all I did was study for a test. I don't really know. You know about pyramids. Yeah, I know about the pyramids, but I didn't even know why the pyramids were there, to be honest, until we started doing podcasts. Oh, because of tombs, supposedly.

Yeah. Pharaoh's tomb and all those. where the rich pharaohs were buried in the tombs with their gold and their whatever. Yeah. Yeah. I really didn't know anything about anything, to be honest. Now, that was, I'm a bad person to ask that. No, but I want to get your opinion.

So as far as biblically or whatever, religion stuff, like, what did you think? You saw Adam and Eve, right? Or, you know, thereabouts. Adam and Eve was the first two people on earth ever. Yeah, I've read Bible stories about Adam and Eve. but I've also, to me, it's a hard thing to punch down a timeline that's way older than me, if that makes sense. I get it.

You know, when is Adam and Eve compared to the Spartans? When is that, you know, it's so hard to, you know, the A.C, the B.C. You know, it's hard for me to see it without seeing it. So, okay. So let's ask you the wrong person, Jen. Well, listen, okay, well, let's put this in context, though. So we know one of the biggest arguments against, uh, really, religion. And by the way, guys, we do talk about religion on this podcast as well. We have

a New World Order episode where we talk about rapture and how it relates to what's going on now and signs and prophecies and all that stuff. And we have a Bree, which is great, and she really knows the Bible. And then we have our take on. And we discuss it and it's really doing good. So you guys should listen to that. But one of the biggest arguments, I guess, that has always been against Christianity has been the existence of dinosaurs. Right. Okay. Because dinosaurs existed millions of years ago, whereas, you know, God or at least Jesus and all that existed

thousands of years ago, right? So there's a huge difference there. You have the dinosaurs, which, you know, they say got took out either by Ice Age or Comet. Yes, you're plugging in a light bulb for me. I remember that in eighth grade now. Yeah. Talking about dinosaurs in the Ice Age and all that thing. but it's still hard to put that into context when, you know,

it's almost like thinking about how far away we are from the sun or the moon. You're talking about these massive, massive miles. You know, I have to look at it. And then you got to think about light years. Yes. And I have to think about things that I can visualize. You know what I'm saying? So it's really hard to visualize something that old.

Absolutely. And it's actually funny that you talk about visualization and what we can fathom, right? So we can, it's, when you hear of millions of miles or you hear it, you start hearing of light years in space and all this stuff and you start, you can't even really comprehend mathematically, I guess, what that really means. Because like we know how much 60 miles an hour is, right? Right. We know about how fast it is. We know about even how fast the Mach 1 is, which people that, people that are not like aviators or whatever don't understand mock 1 necessarily as much. But people that are in aviation here, they understand that because they, they understand, you know, what the speed is.

of sound is, which what the speed of light is. That's when they break the sound barrier. Yeah, exactly. And more people don't even understand the speed of light. And that's where it gets confusing. And even the speed of sound gets confusing. But when we think about history and we think about what

we know of history, and by the way, I want to make sure everyone understands where I'm probably going with this. I want to connect possibly what we're seeing today with the UFOs that we're seeing today. There are reports all across the media, all across the news constantly now

that a UFO reports are real. There are pilots coming out saying UFOs are here. There is military coming out. There's everyone coming out. They're trying to naturalize the fact that there is something out there. UFO, UAP. We don't know what it is. And more and more people are reporting it now,

but I think people have been seeing it. The stigma is off of it as well. And that's why it's being reported now. But we have to go back into the ancient, you know, civilizations. I think they saw aliens way back there. They did. Yeah, I believe they did too

I mean if you guys have ever watched any of the ancient alien stuff you know you'll know that you know a lot of what I guess there's a lot of experts out there that study this geology archaeology and space and even UFOs that they say that you know a lot of what was able to be

done back in the days I mean you look at the pyramid you look at how massive these pyramids are I mean most of these blocks that are used in pyramid building are tons and tons Tons and tons. And there's no, I don't understand how even if there was a hundred people lifting these rocks, how they could get them to the top of those pyramids.

Well, listen, there are. To me, that's impossible. There are, yeah, to you. But yes, you know, the theory has always been there are mechanical ways for them to be able. A pulley or whatever. A pulley system and something that is just immensely strong. Now, we get to think about this too. Like if we have to understand the scale of these pyramids.

Right. I mean, you can see them on a picture. You can see them in video. And unless you're there, which I've never been there. No. But what I will say is I've heard someone explain the absolute magnitude of how big these things are. I mean, when you stand on the ground level and you're looking up at these pyramids, you know, it's a similar feeling, but probably even greater than standing below a New York City skyscraper and looking up at the skyscraper. Wow. Yes, you understand how tall that skyscraper is, but when you stand in front of a pyramid, the massiveness of that thing. It's not just tall, but it is massive.

And you see these insane blocks. I'm talking about blocks of complete, either rock or... Solid rock. Or marble in some cases or granite in other cases. These things are, I mean, bigger than houses. You could put, for example, we live in a 25. 500 square foot house about. Some of these pyramids have

rocks that are cut, by the way. These things are cut into perfect rectangles in most cases. Yeah, with 90 degree angles. Yeah. And so you put these things that are the size of 3 and 4 or 5, 2,500 square foot houses, and they are nothing but

solid rock and granite or whatever. And some of them are even bigger, especially on the base levels. So even if you think about this massive scale and how much this stuff weighs, even today in our civilization now, moving those rocks would be you can't do that with a, you couldn't even do that with a crane. I'm talking about a crane that you see that moves massive objects.

To move something this heavy would take something, it would almost take something that Elon Musk would come and say, hey, let's build something that's going to be. Something that has rocket powers behind it to get it up there. not even that, but you have to build. It's the same thing in aviation, and this is the best way I can explain it. If you ever see those little tug things that are on airports that move airplanes, they will hook up to the airplanes and they'll move them. Well, there's a lot of people that probably look at those little tugs that are pulling.

This little tug is pulling a massive aircraft that is majorly bigger than this little tug that's pulling it. It weighs a tug, I'm sure. But the reason is, is because that tug is pure. You're still, and many times tugs are 10,000 to 15,000 pounds, that little thing you're driving. Wow. Because you have to have leverage enough and weight to pull something as big as an airplane, right? So they had to have leverage and weight enough to push these massive rocks up there. You would have to, but the thing is, with some type of pulley.

Mechanically, that would sound almost impossible. And better yet, you know, we don't, I mean, I'm sure we do have cranes that can lift the weight. I'm not an expert in a crane versus weight thing. I don't, I mean, I know there's cranes that can friggin' pull tons of tons, tons of tons. But what I do know is, if you're going to pull some of these rocks that are in some of these pyramids, I, you know, I would like to know what, someone, if anyone knows,

show me the crane that can lift that. Because that crane's got to be insanely heavy. And the thing I always see with cranes is, these cranes I see like in New York City or whatever the case is, Most of the time, they're not pulling, you know, rocks that are the size of five houses that weigh tons and tons and tons, right? They're pulling beams that weigh whatever, and they're pulling up these beams and they're pulling all these things up. And even those, you look at the cranes, I'm sure those cranes have weighted. I mean, they're weight, but it's not, I'm talking about if you had a crane to pull some of these rocks,

you would have to have something almost the size of this house in weight to be able to leverage that kind of weight. Or else it would snap, it would break, it would completely tip. over and this is the technology we have to move things now in 2020. I said, how in the world do they make these pyramids? I think it's humanly impossible and that's where I am willing to listen to, what's his name? Graham Hancock. God, why not Hancock? Why did I forget it again?

I'm willing to listen to his theories because looking at these grand pyramids and these things that ancient civilizations have built, It's impossible for humans to do that with human hands. At least that long ago. Unless they had some kind of advanced technology, right? Yeah. All right, guys. So let's talk about Joe Rogan podcast and Graham Hancock and who Graham Hancock is.

And the way I'm going to do that, and I think this is, I was thinking about how can we explain who Graham Hancock is? Well, number one, he is an archaeologist, I believe. We're geologists. He's a geologist, archaeologist. No, he says he's neither. He's a journalist. Okay, I got you. He's a journalist.

Yeah, yeah. Writer and journalist. Yeah. But yeah, sorry. But he brings in many geologists and archaeologists. He did in the series Ancient Apocalypse. But Graham has studied the side of science of geology and archaeology, and he's brought all these people together to try to figure out what the narrative is. Is the narrative correct?

And listen, I'm going to read you from Daily Science Journal. Now, the best way I can probably explain who he is is I want to. have someone that wants to try to debunk what he says, okay? Now, which has happened most of his life. Yeah, and it's not even just him. But the one thing that kind of makes me take note of Graham McDow

or, God of mighty, why am I saying McDowell? Graham Hancock. Why is his name McDowell? I have no idea. Hancock. Yeah, okay, but listen, shut up. But the one thing that makes me take note of Graham Hancock is because he is

someone that has devoted a lot of his life to this. He has brought people from all over the world that are, you know, I guess the biggest experts in this field that you could possibly have. And so when I hear someone that is calling out

something against the narrative, against science, against what, it's not even science, what is science and archaeology and all that, he is probably one of the most hated people in science right now. Because they don't want to hear his narrative because they already feel like they have their narrative. They have the narrative. They have the explanation of when life started on earth and when things happened, where they happen, and the time zone are, you know, the era.

The era of time that it happened in. And they're not willing to go back and re-research things that he questions. But to me, it makes them look like they were wrong. Yes. But to me, being a scientist, even though he says he's a journalist and reporter, being a scientist is having a hypothesis and going back and trying to test those hypotheses. Yeah. Right? Yeah. So the Science, Daily Science Journal says, for the uninitiated, the theories of Graham Hancock

might seem kooky at best. The British writer and journalist details in his 2015 book, Magicians of Gods, itself is equal to equally successful fingerprint of the gods, his theories of lost prehistoric civilizations that were. were far more advanced than our own. In both books, Graham Hancock argues that 12,000 years ago, long before the rise of ancient superpowers like Mesopotamia, Egypt, and Babylonia. Yeah, those were like the first civilizations, I guess.

There existed a more advanced, more glorious civilization that had technology far more sophisticated than our own modern civilization. This civilization, unfortunately, met an untimely end when it was so thoroughly, obliterated by a cosmic catastrophe, can't say that word, the likes of which have yet to be seen again. And of course, scientists from various fields, from archaeologists and historians to physicists and astronomers, have all debunked Graham Hancock's work as a pseudoscience, or even better, a science fiction writer.

But is he wrong? So Graham Hancock has many books in science fiction or science fact, which is it? Is it science fact or is it science fiction? Well, let me stop here in this article because there's one thing I want to make really damn good and sure that we understand. Now, this Daily Science Journal, I guess they're like a, you know, very reputable news, I guess media outlet for science, right? And so they publish a lot of legit, very scientific articles, right? number one, I would love to see what they said about the past three years in a pandemic. I would love to see what they were saying during them.

Don't bring that up right now. Yeah, I'm not. But besides that, what I also understand is that there's so many, okay, look, there is a science, right? And there's science to say that, hey, we know in a lab that this and this, if you combine these two things, it makes this. Well, that's science, right? That's science fact. that is something to say that we have it in a lab, we know for sure that this is what it is. That's manipulating things in a lab.

No, I'm just saying even DNA evidence, for example. You can link DNA evidence of a murder to a particular person as long as you can get their DNA. So you can say, here's the DNA. Fingerprints are science. If you have a fingerprint, well, you see another fingerprint. That's science. And then you start getting into science theory, which much of sciences. It's all theory, yeah.

Not all, but a lot of it's theory. Yeah, you're absolutely right. You look at the theory of evolution. You look at the theory of relativity. You look at all of these various theories, either from scientists, mathematicians, or whoever the case may be. We look at what happened over the past three years of the pandemic. Well, there were scientists that supposedly said, this is for sure what is going on. And then a month later, oh, shit, it isn't what's going on.

And then a month later, no, this is for sure what's going on. No, it isn't what's going on, and it's constantly evolving. The problem with science, but listen, this is what I'm getting at. The problem with science, as we've seen in the past three years, regardless of what they're wrong or not, they're never going to admit they're wrong, number one, and they'll never go back on whatever it is they have come out and said. Science has been extremely sloppy the past three years, but even better yet, I think that we have dumbfounded ourselves as a civilization

because of the fact that there are so much pride and ego out there in this field, that you are never going to be, it's like once they establish this is what it is, we're not going to hear anything else. And that's where I get where you are asking me what I learned in high school

because it's in the textbooks. These theories are in textbooks and to children or students or teenagers when they're reading about these theories to them, this is fact, not theory. And I don't think they distinguish the two.

It's not fact. It's a theory. And there's a big difference between fact and theory. Yeah. And yet, this is exactly my point. So this science journal is saying,

but is, is what Graham Hancock, God, I cannot remember his name. Now you can. Is what Graham Hancock is saying, this is what their, this is what their whole,

their whole article is pushing towards. Is what he's saying fact, or is it just fiction? Is it a theory, right? And they're trying to make the word theory based on when this guy says it, like dirty, and conspiratorial.

Rather than what they do as a theory. But if they say something, look, some of the greatest minds that we have always heard of growing up, even in education, the people that we're talking about, I'm even talking about Einstein, and I mean, there's so many of them. So many of these

people have theories, scientists, great minds, have had almost everything, the theory of time, the theory of relativity, gravity, everything is a theory. gravity can't technically even be proved. It is still a theory.

It is what we believe whatever we experience is, but that is still a theory. We don't know. That's what the smartest mind that we have come up with can figure out. But it's funny because this article is like, oh, well, is it fact or is it fiction?

Well, most things are theory in science, it seems like nowadays. And this is just another theory, but why is it that so many science, quote-unquote or whoever it is that are so... Saying he's pseudo. Yeah, he's pseudoscience. He's someone that is like, oh my God, you're off the cuff.

He's crazy. He's a lunatic. Nothing he says makes sense. Even when he goes to certain sites to film this documentary on Netflix, they ban him from ever internet. Because they say they have to protect, yeah, they have to protect the integrity of their science, of their... But listen, it's the same thing we saw with the pandemic. same thing we saw.

It's only this science and any other people that may be experts, probably even more experts are the ones that made this whole thing what it is, right? We don't want to hear it. We're going to ban you and we're going to shut your mouth. We're going to silence you.

And there's a big problem with this. It is. It's the same thing that we've been experiencing as a whole for the last two two and a half years. Yeah. So to read on, despite the hokey claims, it has to be said that Graham Hancock's writing and presentation styles are compelling, with strong narratives that weave his theories with captivating storytelling

and convincing use of scientific terms like black image, epoch, or geometry. But while Graham Hancock tries his best to present his interpretation of facts, the reality is that his writings are more in the realm of science fiction. We don't say this to be mean. It's just that there are multiple arguments against many of his claims. Let's go through some of them. So in 2015 magician of the gods, Graham Hancock argues that the advanced civilization was responsible for many of the pyramid building text seen in Egypt and most of South America. However, he also states that this advanced civilization was based on the continent of Antarctica, which he further argues was located far from the South Pole at the time of its height,

was wiped off the face to the earth so completely that the only thing to remain was the pyramid building techniques they passed on their supposed descendants. This theory is problematic in a lot of ways. First, anything man-made, especially by civilization, as advanced as the one proposed by Graham Hengog, will leave some sort of trace, be it a tool, a shard of pottery, a scrap of clothing, or even garbage. Heck, scientists were able to find shop receipts and complaint letters against certain merchants in ancient mesopotamian sites. So this is the first argument, and I kind of agree with this. Okay, well, there is disagreements, and you can agree with it or disagree.

But, okay, going back to the Antarctica situation, if you watch his documentary, you're going to see there's old maps and new maps. The old maps didn't even have Antarctica on the maps because we had never even found Antarctica yet. Yeah. So that destroys their theory right there because he was probably looking at the old maps where we haven't discovered Antarctica. So that means nothing about nothing. Okay, but listen. Number two. How do you argue with if this civilization was far more advanced than our own?

Okay. How do you argue that we have no evidence of that civilization whatsoever? Well, a lot of things that you think about, okay, we have found tools that make things, bowls that, you know, they use to craft their whatever they're doing. But there was also ancient civilizations that buried their own. civilization for them not to be found and to preserve their civilization for us for like a timestamp for us to go and see what was in the past to help us with the future that that that is he showed the proof right on the documentary there is actually ancient civilizations

that it had to take hundreds and hundreds of people to bury their own like towns pretty much to hide them and to preserve them. So we don't even know what's underneath there. Yeah. And so, and also keep this in mind. So part of Graham Hancock's theory says that there were civilizations before the Ice Age, right? So advanced human civilizations before Ice Age and or before common, right? So if you think about this, number one, the Ice Age, right? The Ice Age, After the Ice Age, there was a great flood, which was caused by, you know, the fact that you're no longer an Ice Age. It's starting to warm. It could have warmed from a comet.

You know, that could have snapped the Ice Age deal because you have, you know, which, by the way, the whole science behind the whole, you know, a comet's going to come down and then and then either stop the Ice Age. If you really think about this. But where is the big comet on Earth? I don't see a big, like, huge comet that would have caused this. Well, it could be an ocean. It could be an ocean. Yeah, it could be. I guess.

But also, you know, typically when you have something that would impact the earth like that, you have, I think our dog, I think our dog's thrown up. That's why I was just. Yeah. But when you have things that would impact the earth like that, right? Same thing a nuclear bomb would do, multiple nuclear bombs. I get that. It's going to cause a, what they call nuclear winter. Yeah.

And it's going to shift the earth. a little bit. If you have something coming in direct comment, a direct impact, it's going to shift the earth a couple degrees here or there. And I get that. And if you shift the earth, it's so, it works so perfectly the way it's supposed to go that if you shift it like two degrees to the north, southeast, whatever, it's going to change the whole seasons of the earth. And it's going to be a massive, like different weather pattern, I would think. Yeah. And I think, I think that's going to agree. what Graham Hancock said was, you know, upon

an impact of a meteor or something like that, it could or over time something cataclysmic could happen to where it shifts the earth in a couple degrees. And actually, some of the, a lot of the old stuff, like the monoliths or the or the things that existed back

he thinks up to 10, 12, and 13,000 years ago, which is like the oldest thing we've ever thought about there being a civilization back then. because of the impact, the way a lot of these things were pointing towards the sun, which is what he believed,

it was shifted a couple degrees. Two degrees. And he thinks that's probably because of an impact. And it goes with everything. It goes with the sun. Or it could be the time. The stars. And it could be the time since then.

It's so crazy how you can go back and look so far back in the past to see how far along ago that the earth shift to two degrees. You know, and it's not, I don't think that's a lot. But now the point that all these ancient civilizations, they built things to either face the brightest star in the sky or it had to do with the sun, with the sun in the winter, the summer, the spring. The solstice and all that. Yes. Yes. And a lot of what they, a lot of all these ancient pyramids. I mean, I'm talking, your Graham Hancock is is figuring out pyramids and things that are in jungles and all. these other places that are far older than any pyramid we've ever known to be a pyramid. They're just hidden, kind of hidden. I mean, they got huge signs with these rocks that are cut, but no one in science has ever looked

at this as a pyramid. If you watch the show, it really explains like, oh, my God, this could be way older in any Egyptian pyramid we've even thought about. And when they actually show it, it looks way older. Because, you know, when you see erosion on rocks or things that have been carved out over time it's going to be more and more eroded. And you can see the details of these faces

but you can tell it's super, super old compared to like pyramid looking carves. Yeah, you're right. I agree with that. Yeah, the idea, so this article says the idea that a civilization, one is advanced as widespread and as the one described by Hancock, being completely erased

from reality because of some kind of cataclysm is inconceivable to the point of absurdity. That's what they say. And secondly, the idea that building pyramids could only have come from a long-forgotten civilization is, quite frankly, insulting to the indigenous Egyptians who most likely figured out a lot of their technology through their own trials and errors. It also completely disregards the fact that pyramids are, by large, one of the most physically stable buildings that we can erect, thus making them the most logical choice of building. But listen, we go back to, yeah, we go back to, yes. Because we erect pyramids today, like they do.

did back then. Well, yeah, we could. Yeah, we could, but it would be, it would be a lot harder than you think. It would be taking electricity. Like back then, I don't even think they had electricity and they were able to do it. To me, there was some kind of supernatural thing going on to build these pyramids. Maybe. I think it's impossible for a human to do that alone.

Yeah. So there's another theory, Graham Hancock, his entire premise on and advanced civilization being wiped out by a cosmic bomb of sorts. In 2007, scientists proposed that North American mega-phenol extinction event, one that happened roughly 12,000 years ago, was caused by either a series of meteors impact on Earth or by one gigantic meteor.

This theory itself is not only hotly contested, but also largely dismissed. And for good reason, the crux of the theory relies on the concept of meteors drastically changed in the face of the planet. However, there are no identifiable impact craters that could have happened around that time that a theory

pauses, which is basically what you just said. But they occurred much, much later than North American megafaunal extinction. So, but I go back, you know, we don't know what could have been the impact zone. It could have been in the ocean that we don't see this. I mean,

you know, we do have craters in the ocean that are like, in, I mean, We only know now, they say, 10% of our ocean. 10% has been discovered. 10%. I mean, and if you think about the mass flood, which almost in every either religious context or history or just historical context, we know there was a massive and great flood back in the day.

Anything. Almost every religion, almost all history books. And you've got to think about that massive flood. There's still probably land that was above. water back then. That's underwater now. I think there was a lot more land back then by far, right? That was above sea level than it is now. Absolutely. And when the great flood happened, it kind of remained that way. Yes. And he explains that in his documentary as well, showing how the land looked before this great flood and how it looks after. Like they really do

prove there's structures under the ocean right now. Cool. That look like civilizations built these things. I'm not saying they built them underwater. They weren't underwater back then. They went underwater when the flood came. Yeah. Same thing with Atlantis.

You know, there's a huge hotel in Bahamas called Atlantis for a reason. You know, a lot of people say it's a myth, but what if it's not a myth? What if there was this huge, great city that's now underwater because of these massive floods? Yeah, you're right. And look, I mean, the thing is, we have to remember, too, about comet impact. We don't, when you talk about this cataclysmic event that could wipe out all of humanity, we're thinking of a comet that's like half the size of Earth, right? But that's not what needs to, we don't need a comet.

You could have a comet that is from here to your town over that could cause massive extinction on Earth. because of the impact Yeah, because the impact Because of how fast it is It could be a mile wide comment A mile wide Oh yeah and that's why we worry about them today Yes

And that's why we've just like Recently in the last months practiced Getting rid of comets that were close to Earth Yeah which is in the whole other thing I mean like there's no question That comments have hit and impacted Earth I do feel like probably somewhere along the lines that happened And but yeah

We just sent up a freaking, you know, 300 million or whatever the cost was, rocket to impact a comment to see if we could change the trajectory of it. And to be honest, we've talked about it on the podcast. It's like, man, this seems like maybe we don't know something that someone knows, that we're trying to figure out, can we do this? That we actually change the path. Because we have something coming that we have to change the path up. So we're going to spend multi-million dollars to try to do this.

Right. And these people have made these movies about. things like this, maybe they even know, or maybe, I don't know, but it's just crazy. So Mr. Hancock basically says that the impacts from comet fragments, a mile wide approaching at a more than 60,000 miles per hour generated huge amounts of heat, which instantly liquidized millions of square kilometers of ice, destabilizing the earth's crust, and causing the global deluge that is remembered in myths around the world. A second series of impacts, equally devastating, caused further cataclysmic form.

flooding occurred 11,600 years ago, the exact date that Plato gives for the destruction and submerges of Atlantis. Yes. And if you look where Plato was talking about these myths or whatever, it happened, I think, I can't remember how many. He heard this from. 11,600 years ago. That's how many years.

But past Plato's life. Plato didn't even see this. He heard this from other people. But if you look at these riverbeds or lake beds or whatever you want to call it, them, they're three miles wide, and that does not happen in normal slow river lakes

erosions. This, by looking at these bunkers, craters, or like, not craters, but this massive river beds. Oh yeah, I got you. You know, by looking at them and they're three miles across, that did not happen over time.

There's no way. Oh, wait, wait, wait. I think what you're talking about. You're talking about the riverbeds. Yes. The ones that are humongous and they've got this little tiny river going through it now. Well, look, you think of even Grand Canyon. Yeah, exactly. You know, you got the Colorado River to go through Grand Canyon.

You know, horseshoe bin is a very popular spot. If you go out west in the United States in Colorado, I think it's Colorado. No, I don't even know if it's Colorado, Utah maybe. But even think about the Grand Canyon. But listen, the horseshoe, you know, it's one of the biggest. Popular spots in the Grand Canyon. Why am I saying that? Damn it.

The Grand Canyon, Horseshoe Bend. It is where the Colorado River comes around in a Grand Canyon. You can literally stand there and look at this river come around. It is just this massive horseshoe is what it is. It's a horseshoe formation. It comes around and it winds on down through the Grand Canyon. And so what Sherry's talking about, though, these riverbeds. There are riverbeds around the world that you have a small trickling river.

and not small. This river is raging still. It's probably huge, but we're seeing it from above earth. But then you have another section. It's like another level. It's like a shelf, yeah. It's like a shelf.

Yeah, that's the word I was trying to get it. It is a shelf. And then you have another swath of land that is, it could be a mile. It could be a half a mile. And then you have another large embankment slash crater slash mountain. And so what Graham Hancock was saying is

there are places like this around the world, which definitely proves, in his theory that, number one, there was a massive flood. Or impacts to where it was rising water levels, even in places that wasn't flooded, it rose water levels to where... Yeah, to other places. Or maybe that, yeah, exactly. And so that went for a long time.

Yeah, and he was even saying that's probably how the Great Lakes were formed is through this. This is where all these fresh water lakes came from. I agree with that. Yeah, because, I mean, if you think about this, this earth was formed, like you said, the Great Lakes. Great example. Mississippi River even. Stuff like this. You know, these things, you know,

we have to know. This is what my opinion is, based on everything we've heard. I think that there was more, by far, land on Earth in the very beginning of this Earth than there was water. I think.

I mean, I could be completely wrong about it. I've thought about that. Would it be a more ocean planet? Like, upon this Earth's existence, no, it's going to be more land. Okay. And I do remember in school, when you think about locking these continents together, they all at one time were locked together, right? Yeah.

I forgot the word of that. It starts with a P. I have no idea. I can't remember when all the continents were together. And then because of the continental divides in earthquakes and volcanoes, they started separating. I can't remember the damn name because, you know, like I said, I barely passed. It's cool. But anyways, they're all dividing.

So as they divide, of course, you're going to lose some of the land underwater. Yeah. Well, and that's the thing. So a lot of Graham Hancock's studies and findings have come to say that, you know, if you watch a show, which I'm not going to give away, I'm not exposing or giving away anything in the show. But a lot of these things, a lot of these structures, whether it be pyramids that we don't even know of really, but we truly believe our parents. because of ground penetrating radars and so on and so forth. It seems like the civilization

back then, at the very least, had chambers underground where they went and I don't know if they built these because of either it was, either these were the survivors of the cataclysmic events and they had to go and build shelters or bunkers underground

which is what Hancock believes possibly. Now they built these shelters to get away from people that were against them. It was like Christians, I guess. I don't know. No, no, this is way before Christians. But we're talking about the most ancient 12,000 years ago, pyramids.

We're talking about these people built things underground and a system underground to survive another event. Maybe these were survivors after the fact. The air shafts and all that. Yeah, they went up to the top of mountains, which means to me, it's like we got to avoid more floods, whatever the case is. And then they built things underground. Now, they're like 18 stories underground. Yeah. Now, here's the thing.

Like, we could build those. I mean, not build those. We could completely excavate those. But there's a big issue with that. Because number one, science, number one architecture. You would think, just the saying this shit, like, it's like, there could be actual cities underground. You would think that archaeologists and scientists would be like, we are going to completely demolish. I mean, I know it sounds really bad to be like, this is ancient.

we, even though, especially the what's it called, gondon plung, whatever it's called, the first one, they, that's the one that has the, I guess it's like volcanic formations of rocks. Yes, that look like they... They've been cut.

Yeah. And there are walls all the way around and there's a very wooded area. But these things, they believe because of ground penetrating radar have these chambers underground. But the thing about it is, is that these people

if archaeologists and all these guys geologists and everybody they're like nope that's nothing that's what they've been saying for years that's nothing it's just it's natural formations they're just discounting it that's BS well listen but these these experts

around the world are discounting this and they're saying that's nothing but if you really look at it there's freaking walls built I mean it's oh yeah obviously they're rectangular they're 90 degree angles everything but yeah so they have always discounted. But yet at the same time, if there was any

inclination that, like, what if there are chambers of a lost city underneath this, right? Like, we need to be digging this mountain up. I mean, I know it's, you know, what is it, historic, but it really isn't, according to archaeologists, it ain't shit, right? It's natural

formations. Okay, fine. Then let's dig this entire mountain up. Well, in Graham, going against what you're saying, he feels like ancient civilizations, we're trying to restore these places. And that's where we're getting the age of the restoration instead of like the true age of the real places. Because if you dig deeper, you're going to see stuff that's way older than the restoration.

Yeah. So, and that does make sense because you think about people wanting to restore things like restore old houses, restore like momiments that are very important. We want to keep them in place. so that does make sense. But we also have to dig it. We've got to find this shit out. You've got to find some way of doing that without destroying the site, I guess.

But yeah, but listen, I think all that destroying the site shit, like, it reminds me of the past three years. Well, we can't research this. Does this drug work to not make you sick from this particularly? Well, we're not even going to, we're not even going to do it. We're not doing it because we already know what's best. you know and it's like that has been the biggest downfall of our civilization as humans like if you want to talk about UFOs and you want to talk about like if there's a planet out there that has UFOs which I believe not UFOs but aliens advanced civilizations that are far more advanced than we are obviously if they're shown up here they are they are but I guarantee you those aliens those those living beings that are on another planet that are making their way to Earth right they're coming here in their little they're little spaceships they're way more advanced yeah but yeah but yeah but but listen, they're not doing bullshit, dumb shit like we do here. They're not having scientists that say, no, this is the only way we're not, listen,

they're not going to have a temple or a possible pyramid that could point to advanced technology or just a key in our history or our future. And on their planet, I mean, I'm talking about civilizations that go to Earth from light years away. They're not going to have a hill there. They're going to be like, no, we can't, we can't dig this. I get that. We can't dig it. And that was one. No, we're going to dig this entire mountain up to figure out what the hell we got to do. Because we got to get to hell off this planet. We got to find, we got to figure out whatever.

I think eventually Earth will be that way. But ancient, I mean, not ancient, but civilizations outside of Earth in other advanced planets that have been around for thousands, if not millions of years, right? Billions, whatever. Or whatever. They have went through all the bullshit that we're going through now probably in their infamacy. Like, they went through all this shit. get what Graham's saying is that we possibly could have been like these these aliens that are coming to visit us that's where I tend to disagree because I believe there are ancient civilizations

that are way older than what we think on earth I believe I don't think they're far more advanced but I don't think there is far advanced as other civilizations around the universe because there are no aircrafts there are no electricity there is nothing that shows us that there is advanced as we are now. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, unless you map out,

dig and explore the oceans and our land. You would have to come up to some kind of aircraft or something that was more advanced than us. A spaceship, I don't know.

But getting back to the pyramids, I don't think that was human made at all. I don't even think, I don't even think that was probably from our civilization. I do. I think that.

You do? I don't. Yeah, I don't. But I think, think they had help probably. I mean, you know. It's humanly impossible to make those pyramids. Yeah, but I think they had help to do that.

Yeah. So, yeah. I feel like it was some kind of alien nation that was here back then. All right. So let's get to our last phase of this, guys. And this is how we're going to, I want you guys to think about this because this is crazy. And this is something Graham Hancock also said, but it made me kind of, we've already talked about this kind of before.

and this entire thing needs to be an entire another episode and actually I would love which now I can't but Bree you know talking about God and all that stuff I mean it would be an episode down the road that we'd bring her on to talk about

what I'm about to talk about but listen this is going to sound crazy listen Linda listen UFOs what if UFOs and what we're seeing now now there's something grand I got to say this Graham Hancock said

when you think of ancient civilizations and you say that they couldn't possibly exist further than what we know now, right? So Egypt, Aztecs, whoever. But yet we literally, we literally have civilizations on this planet right now in rainforest and other places around the world that do not even realize that we exist. Yes, yes. And I'm talking about the only. way we know they exist is because of helicopter or drones or something else to where we did not disturb them but we wanted to do a surveillance mission and I guarantee you those people probably think we're aliens when we go by yes yes I agree so listen so there are civilizations that do not even know

we exist right not to say we don't know they exist because we do but when we say we but there's African tribes that has no idea that this random tribe that we just talked about exist and some, you know, South American rainforest, right? I mean, there are people everywhere that don't know other people or things exist. Okay? I get your point. So think about this. And I'm talking about there are African tribes right now that have went through hundreds of years of their life that never, in a million years, think there is another civilization in South America somewhere that exists that has never been contacted by human beings.

There's no way. Right. Most people don't know that. And their civilization might be even old. than civilizations that we even know about. Who knows? I don't know. But what if these UFOs and these aliens and these UPEs are seeing?

What if they are a more advanced, intelligent life that exist right here on Earth that we don't even know about? Think about this. We've talked about the UFOs and UAPs. We've seen UFOs and UAPs going at like appearing and disappearing because of how fast they are. And going down through the ocean. Yes. That's a huge thing. huge point right there.

They're able to go from air to ocean like it's nothing. Yeah. So here's the facts. The UFO phenomenon may not only be indicative of extraterrestrial life, but perhaps intelligent life from here on our own planet. Perhaps in other realms, even other dimensions that we... I've thought about that too.

Are not always perceivable in our own senses. And I'm just thinking, too, like, if you look at the sky and you think there's something that's a UFO that's right in front of you. What if it's in a different dimension or a different realm that you're looking up in the sky like it's a whole different dimension than what you're actually seeing? Yeah. Because I know there's a lot of people that see things in the sky that they can't explain. There's a lot of people.

Now, so UFOs, you know, they've always been known as undentified flying objects, right? Now they want to call them UAPs, which is unidentified flying objects. aerial phenomenon. Now, they've been, it's been a huge topic of discussion within the mainstream media. And so we're talking about objects that are, have been photographed, video tap, tracked on radar, or seen by high-ranking military personnel. And so the next discussion to arise is, are those manning these craft human or something else? Are the ones that are here, are they either, are they either an advanced civilization that we either do, don't know about or can't comprehend

because there's three different levels here. What if we can comprehend them, which we do see them? We do actually see these beings, or not beings, but these crafts. Is it possible that these things are, number one, they are here. It's not their

interdimensional or they're in another dimension, but they are far more advanced as far as they live under ocean, they have advanced technology. Maybe they're surviving, maybe they are a surviving, advanced. technology. Maybe, you know, we've had a hollow earth podcast, which I know it sounds nuts. I know. But the hollow earth podcast. If they, if they have been living here on Earth, that explains all the ancient civilizations, their wall record, you know, all the recordings

that they put on the wall, you know, that's what they try to. It's like a timestamp. they want the future people to know what they're seeing and a lot of it is UFO related so what if these UFOs have been here since the beginning of time and they've been here the whole time yeah so there's credible sources that support this idea as far as the possibility of existence

of these objects decades ago not only decades ago but even thousands of years ago and Colonel Robert Friend in his very last interview before his death who was a director of Project Blue Book 1958 and 1962. He suggested that the U.S. Air Force knew what these objects were, even at the time.

The former director of Pentagon's UFO program, Lou Alizanda, recently gave an interview of the New York Post saying that he had had a meeting with a very senior Department of Defense official who mentioned he knew the craft were not of human origin. And former Air Force Colonel Ross Dedrickson also claimed to have information that these objects were not. human made and from what we knew the beings are they're unearthlike or they could

possibly even be earthlike but it's a weird whole kind of conundrum well I'm just saying that they say I recognize not all people will consider these sources credible evidence but beyond these testimonies are things like documented cases of sightings or contact experiences

and according these cases people report both benevolent and malevolent experiences also linked to the UFO phenomenon. And we also have to take into consideration that the actual Pentagon's own report that was declassified says

when they started talking about that contacts and people that did contact UFOs, they had radiation burn so on and so forth. But they also one of their main things, Tom DeLong, which was, or not Tom DeLong, is that his name? I don't think it is. But the guy from Blink 22 that did UFO thing,

he was really connected somehow got into all the government shit with UFOs and all that. And not just him, but the main documents that talk about UFOs as far as the Department of Defense and the Pentagon, one of their really big leading things is what they believe. And I think this is a lot of what they're trying to start talking about is these are interdimensional things that we as human beings, whether or not we, these could possibly even be human. Indians, right? But they are on another

dimension and another time frame. You've got to look at time, not front and back, but side to side. There are layers to this shit. And we can't comprehend that. Yeah, and some people believe they're even living among us. And I have to just put this out. This is not... Who know? I'm just putting

it out there. What's the dude's name in Pennsylvania? Federer? Oh, Fetterman. Federman. He looks like an alien to me. He may be an alien. Yeah, he's used to talking in silent, but now he's having to speak. Yeah, he's having trouble speaking in English because he's an alien. That's probably Joe Biden, too.

Maybe he is. Sorry, I just had to put it out there because he does. I mean, if you look at his facial structure and his forehead, he does not look human. And nor does his family. So let's talk about Plato for a minute. Let's talk about Plato. Now you're good. Let's talk about Plato before we wrap us up.

Plato once said as documented in Fatto And upon the earth are animals and men Some in a middle region Others elementals Dwelling about the air As we dwell about the sea Others in islands which the air flows round

Near the continent In any word The air is used by them as the water And the sea are by us And the ether Is to them What the air is to us and the truth is much of our reality isn't even perceivable to our human senses.

We can only see within a tiny frequency of the entire visible light spectrum. We have to use special equipment like infrared telescopes and more to see things that we otherwise cannot. Quantum mechanics and the emergence of post-material science has shown us that there are invisible parts of what we perceive to be our physical and material world that make up the vast majority of it. Some, like Plato, referred to this as either or ether, or ether. Well, that goes back to even, like, people that experience spirits, for example.

But who's to say that life does not dwell in these realms? These realms of places we cannot fathom or see as our own. And they may exist all around us. Perhaps some of these objects originate from there, or as you might say, right here earth. So, even radio, if you guys have ever thought about Wi-Fi, you know how much information is transferred through air? I mean, think about this.

I mean, most people don't ever think about Wi-Fi or cell phone signals or any of this shit, but like when you get a phone call on your cell phone, it is a literal freaking voice coming through a radio wave that you cannot see. Right. You cannot see or fathom. It is connected to you in a audio way. Through a visual, it would be a visual if we could see this realm of things that is coming through the air. It would be a visual representation of what we are hearing.

Yeah, I would see like this little zigzagging wire going from the tower. Or it would be an experience. It would be an experience to where you see what they're saying, right? I mean, it could even be that crazy, right? But same thing with Wi-Fi. Look at how much information. There are people right now listen to us from around the world, and they are hearing our voice and is all able to be done. Some of them are outside in their yard right now.

Some of them are at work. Some of them in our car. Some of them are in all these different places. But our voice is connecting to them through waves, through signals that we can not see. Right. The only thing we can see in signals is a physical thing that emits the signal that we can't see. There is a physical object to emit those things, right? But we can't see or understand how those things actually work.

And by the way, it is radio waves. signals. It is all things that we can also possibly exist in. Other dimensions. You could even probably say Wi-Fi is some type of dimension. It is a radio frequency. It is a dimensional thing.

And we can't see it. We have harnessed how to use it and how to use it for us. But we have not harnessed how to experience things in other waves, just like DMT. And it goes with the God particle, too. The same thing. We're trying to

harvest the guard particle. Yeah. Yeah, because we don't understand. Yeah, we're trying to figure out how many dimensions are. I know science says there's 10, right? There's at least 10. You know, 3D dimensional is what we see around us. And then once you get past 4 and 5 and 6 and 7, that gets kind of crazy because

like brain can't handle that thinking of that. But I honestly think in different dimensions, that's where people experience. I'm going to say the word wrong. Phenomenom. Phenomenon. I always say it wrong. whatever, yeah. But they experience things like that, and it's through different dimensions.

And I think the dimensions are closer when you're experiencing people from the past. I don't know. Look, we got to talk about, if we're going to talk about dimensions, because you got to briefly, we got to talk about whether you believe in people that are possessed, right? I mean, the people that have, what does it call it? God, the mighty this fucking cord is like all over me. That are possessed by the devil? Yeah, possessed by the devil, the exorcisms and stuff like that.

I mean, there's been very, very legitimate accounts around the world from, I mean, throughout her history. But there's also been legit. Of people actually being possessed by a devil and preachers coming in and unpossessing them or whatever. And there's also been a lot of people that believe that if you are contacted by another unnatural person from not this world or whatever, or this world. Is the devil. Yeah, but I don't necessarily believe that. But a lot of other people feel like they've been contacted by lost relatives or people from, you know, a devil. another dimension that was once on earth.

But according to Bible, right? According to Bible, if their relatives are in heaven, they're not going to be contacted. According to the Bible, technically, the only spirits on earth, according to the Bible, the Christian Bible, right, are demonic. Yeah, that's what I was saying. Yeah. But I think a lot of people don't experience that unless, you know, Satan's lying to them. You know, a lot of people say, well, that's Satan and he's disguising himself.

I don't know. But listen, we got to think about briefly, though. we have to think about, look, other dimensions are things. We have to know that I believe Wi-Fi is a dimension. It is something we cannot see, but we do use. Yeah, I think you're right. And then you've got to go just down the line of dimensions that we don't even or cannot fathom. Now, the DMT thing, now, Graham Hancock is big into this, and a lot of his people are around the world.

As far as people that are scientists, people that are, I mean, there's a lot of scientists. They're starting to take notice of this DMT thing. And actually, part of Joe Rogan's podcast, when they talk about there are people currently that are in the process right now of mapping the DMT world. And for those of you that don't know, they say that when you take this DMT, that everyone goes to the same place. It depends on if you're together or not. See, that's the thing. You don't necessarily go the same place. It depends on where you're at and who you're with.

A lot of people that do this shit together in studies, they go the same place. Very similar area. But it's almost like a travel through interdimensional travel. There are other people that do this in other parts of the world or other areas that experience different things. Something completely different. But it's like another connection and tapping into another dimension. And it's so freaking strange.

But the reality is this DMT, there is scientists. There are people right now, Graham Hancock and a lot of his team, not just Graham, but there's a lot of people around the world that are currently in the process of mapping the DMT world. It is, they have got it so down to how many people experience so many similar things. They're mapping it to where they're trying to figure out what it is that they're seeing. They're trying to visualize in a visual representation to our, to our comprehensible minds, what DMT and what that dimension is. Let me just ask you this. This is kind of crazy. What if it's the mega universe?

The what? The mega universe. I thought you said MAGA. Or MAGA. The mega. The mega mega mega universe. The place that people are selling like virtual real estate and stuff. Virtual real estate.

I could be a metaverse. No, I doubt that. Hell no. That's not the damn metaverse. See, but that's the thing. You got to think about the metaverse and virtual reality. Is it a dimension? I don't know.

I mean, I guess. But I almost think like Wi-Fi and what we can't see is more of a dimension than the Metaverse. And then actually it's two screens showing you a world. Yeah. To me, the Metaverse is the Metaverse or whatever it's called is. It's more like when you go and play an Xbox game and you're in this world of Xbox. You know, if it's Grand Theft Auto or what are some of the ones you played, is you go into this world, this virtual world. But they're creating.

But listen, yes, you're right. But they are creating this world. So let me explain. this. Whoever comes up with a goggle that you put on that connects, that has little antennas on it, right? Same thing our Wi-Fi, our modems do, our Wi-Fi, our cell phones do with an antenna. Whoever creates a device that has little antennas on it, and you put this damn goggle on, and you go into that dimension that DMT takes you to, or whatever it is,

it is literally, it is, it is receiving the signals from, this dimension. Whatever frequency this is, is receiving the signals, and somehow you're processing it visually. You have a system to process it. Dude, you're going to be a trillionaire, number one, to do this. You're pretty much time traveling through these things. But you could do that. Yeah. And someone has to figure out how. Number one, you got to figure out what radio wave and what signal they're on. Then you got to figure out through that, you would have to figure out. Oh, what if we figure it out, babe. Yeah, but through that, you would have to figure out how to visualize it and how to put it in visualization. But you could do it. Yes. It just takes. It just takes. It just takes a

It makes a genius. Maybe we need to patent that right now before anybody else. Oh, we're screwed. We're talking on the podcast now. But listen, I don't give a damn if we do it or someone else does it. Just give us some credit. Yeah, but would that not be the way to do it? That would be the way to do it. Yeah, so maybe that is like...

You have to transmit something to go visual. This is back from the future stuff, but real life stuff. Yeah, I mean, it's the same thing as if you have a TV that's not connected to cable, but it's connected to Wi-Fi. Our TV is connected to Wi-Fi, right? It's connected Wi-Fi and I can use my phone or whatever to transmit a video from my phone to the TV. It don't have to be connected to any cable. It can just be over-air signal that visualizes what the signal is showing.

That's all you need to do. You've got to figure out the dimension you're trying to tap into. And that's how dimensions tap into our dimension as well. I guarantee you they do. You know, when you see that grainy whatever in the movies, the grainy screen and divinity. Dimensions are tapping into the TV, like polter guys, for example. They're probably tapping into that too. But you got to think, I mean, if you're thinking about aliens, UFOs and whatever, advanced civilizations or whatever, but UFOs or even humans that are here that are advanced, far more advanced than we are.

But especially UFOs. And if they're so far advanced, they can go light years away, do you not think they could tap into our Wi-Fi signals to actually visualize what, you know, I mean, come on. Well, they do. And I think they tap into places around military. I do think they know what's going on. I think they know what's going on. They definitely know and they're around there and they tap down and sometimes even close up those or turn them off when they need to. Yeah, I agree.

And that's a whole other podcast. But anyway. I do think, yeah, yeah, I mean, the whole alien interdimensional thing, we've had a podcast on interdimensional thing. We could go crazy deep in that. But I'm just saying, I mean, think about the Wi-Fi thing and think about if you could figure out a way to tap into another dimension and visualize it, just like Wi-Fi does. and emits a signal to your television to show you something, this is what could be the same thing. That takes you to another dimension.

And you can see it. You don't have to take a drug even. You can just get that signal and visualize it. And that would be nuts. And I think that that's a possibility, because I do think that's part of what DMT is doing, is somehow connecting you or opening your mind to another signal or another wave or whatever the case is.

And I do think also, I've always kind of been skeptical of science or not scientists, psychics, but I do think there are people that, you know, like animals, they suspect things that people can't sometimes. Yeah, they feel like I have a more sense than a lot of other people. I'm just saying I do. I think I do. I know. I do, babe. I do. Well, you did get the best husband, so you did know something about that shit. All right, guys. Well, listen, we love you. Welcome back to us. We're back on audio. We're going to devote a lot more time to audio. But we're going to do video still.

But listen, guys. Not as much though. Think about all that shit we're talking about. And until next time, we love you guys. Have an amazing night. Don't go too far in another dimension. Or morning. Yeah, wherever you're at, guys, you'll get through it. If you're at work, man, keep pushing. We love you. Woo. I hope that did not blow your eardrum.

Yeah, now your boss light. Did you not hear me? No, he just blew my ear drum. All right, guys. We love you. next time. Peace out. Peace out.