Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Joe Rogan Podcast Terrence Howard Breakdown

Episode Date: May 26, 2024

In this episode, we take an in-depth look at Terrence Howard's fascinating appearance on the Joe Rogan Podcast. Is Terrence a mad genius or just misunderstood? Interestingly, many of the concepts he discusses align with the topics we've explored on our podcast for years. Joining us is our special guest co-host, Sam, as we delve into the mysteries of Aether, Black Holes, the Periodic Table, the nature of Reality, and much more. All of this and more on this episode of Joe Rogan Podcast Terrence Howard Breakdown

intoxicated, we're automated and overpopulated, we're all fish in our street, swimming towards a vicious tree. Hello and welcome to Investigator's podcast. I am your host, Chad, and tonight we do not have Sherry with us. Listen, she's had a long week getting out of school. This is the first time A lot of you even know that she is a teacher, but we do have a special guest co-host tonight by the name of Sam. You probably remember her from a few other episodes we've done. Sam, how's it going? Pretty good.

How's it going, Chad? We are doing pretty well. It is Memorial Day weekend, everybody out there. Happy Memorial Day weekend. We have had a very busy, I guess past couple of weeks. And so Sherry will be back with us just after Memorial Day. We got a lot of great episodes playing. And we've actually been doing some planning on what we're doing over the next month.

That's been a lot of what we've been doing the past couple of days. Many of you probably have heard the episodes that we just did with Ian Carroll. That is also right now on X. It is also on Rumble. And if you are an audio listener, you can listen to it on Spotify or wherever you listen to podcast. On tonight's show, we're going to be breaking down the Terrence Howard Joe Rogan episode. And when I say we are going to be breaking down this episode, we're going to do our very best to conceptualize exactly what he's even saying, right? There has been this huge debate out there.

It's like, is he crazy or does he actually know what he's talking about? Sam, you've obviously watched the episode a couple of times. Do you air more on the side of he's crazy or do you err more on the side of like maybe he actually has something here? Well, admittedly, certainly not my area of expertise. but I find everything that he's saying extremely compelling. And I think for me, you know, both things can be true that he may be a little crazy, but it also doesn't mean that he's wrong. And then I also, I just always look at this, you know, the same way of the situation with Graham Hancock,

where academia is very stead in their beliefs. And what he's saying is most definitely unorthodox. But I don't necessarily think that means that he's wrong. Yeah. So I'm looking forward to, you know, I have listened to this a couple of times, but going back through the clips and also just getting your thoughts on it too. Yeah, it's going to be interesting. And guys, I will say the same thing.

I don't know that I'm an expert in this or not. And I don't think I probably am. And I honestly don't think anyone is. I think a lot of what Terrence Howard brought to Joe Rogan's show was groundbreaking stuff, whether it was fantasy or reality. We don't know. And we're going to try to break that down because the reality of this episode is, or this podcast is we have talked about a lot of crazy stuff here.

We've talked about interdimensional beings. We've talked about God. We've talked about Bigfoot for God's sake. We've talked about everything. And so over the past like four or five, six years, when you talk about that stuff enough, I was thinking, I was like, well, maybe we might have some type of theory or thought process on maybe what he's saying, right? Let's just try to figure out what it is Terrence Howard is trying to say here.

Because this is, by the way, not the first time Terrence Howard has went viral for things that he has said. There is other interviews that you guys can find. If you go to YouTube, and we're not going to play him tonight, but if you go to YouTube, you type in Terrence Howard, you will find a clip, and there is a speech he has on YouTube that sounds very similar. And this is something else that kind of blew up and went viral prior to the Joe Rogan podcast. So most people don't realize, you know, Joe Rogan's episode obviously highlighted Terrence Howard's

mindset, but I think he has had this mindset for quite some time. This is not something new to Terrence Howard. And obviously, he is a big time actor. He is someone that, you know, you've seen him in so many shows and movies. I've seen him in many movies as well. But it's also kind of like, you know, it was surprising to me that he came on Joe Rogan to talk about the things he did, to be scrutinized. And it seems like almost as if Terrence Howard, and by the way, Sam, did you get this?

It seems like he's kind of rebelling against Hollywood. Hollywood in some ways. And I think he's kind of been on record to kind of say some of that stuff. And especially when he talks about the vaccines and all of that, which we'll get to, it just seems like he is doing some type of rebellion against the system or against the thing he's not supposed to, the taboo. Yeah, definitely. I mean, I don't think those two things can coexist very well. And just from what he was saying, it does definitely sound like this is a path that he's been on for quite a while. And I think Joe made an excellent point. I don't know if you'll play the clip or not. where he just mentioned that, you know, if he wasn't an actor,

that he would probably be taken more seriously, if he were just someone who went to college and this was his life's work, that, you know, probably they would look at him a little bit differently. But because he's an actor, it's sort of the same thing with, you know, Joe is a comedian and people who have never listened to him don't really understand, you know, he's a very insightful, curious, and honestly, very well-educated guy at this point.

You don't necessarily have to go to college. I mean, he's had 14 years of education from this podcast. Yeah, it's true. And, you know, I got to be honest, I have not known nearly as much stuff, you know, until we did the podcast. It's like just researching and talking to people we've talked to on the podcast. It's kind of like a free college. And honestly, I mean, we didn't have to pay nearly as much as college. And I guarantee we learned a lot more useful facts than what we're learning in college today.

Nowadays, obviously, in college, you go to college and you learn how to be a far-left-woke activist. that's typically what they teach you or they teach you about socialism or communism or how to destroy your country. If you want to go there, then definitely go to college if you want to learn that. I actually just saw Sam, by the way, and this is kind of a little bit off topic, but Media Matters is firing a lot of their, a lot of their quote unquote journalist. Now, for those don't know who Media Matters is, Media Matters is the organization or company that essentially was, in my opinion, I think they are kind of like the,

the right-hand little governance body for the United States government to try to cancel companies such as X. So they do a lot of things when it comes to trying to, I guess, just make companies look really bad or pro-right or pro-Maga, pro-extremist. And Media Matters did a, basically they're a hit piece company. And now they're having to fire so many of their journalists because of this. And I actually had commented about this with one of the journalists. and I said, you know, she's actually doing a go fund me for her and her colleagues that have been laid off because, you know, obviously they're being destroyed by public consensus. And so I said, look, you know, I think where you should be raising money is you guys should go to North Korea because I think North Korea could really use your propaganda and like how good you are at doing that.

Because media matters is is a company that has desperately tried to destroy other companies. And they've even commented on Joe Rogan. they've commented on X and Elon Musk and they really push initiatives to drive away revenue dollars from these companies. And that was their number one goal. They knew that Media Matters, if they could convince enough sponsors or enough, you know, advertisers to stray from companies like X or like YouTube, if they decided to host people like Joe Rogan or people that had adversary opinions to the, you know, mainstream narrative,

that was Media Matter's main job. was to drive away revenue from these companies. So it was basically like kind of holding them hostage, saying if you allow anything, our government does not say, then you are not going to have to, or you're not going to have the ability to make money. Yeah, definitely.

Have you heard of Media Matters before? Yeah, and actually, I want to read to you directly from their website, the About Us part of this, I think just really says everything. It says Media Matters for America is a web-based, not-for-profit, progressive research and Information Center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.

So I think that pretty much tells you everything you need to know. Yeah, well, they do have a go-fund me, guys. And I encourage you to definitely not donate unless they change it to go to North Korea. We will always be down with that. So, guys, before we get into this breakdown, I do want to say we do have an X account. We do have all of our social media accounts. We do have telegram. Sam is one of those.

She is an admin over on our telegram. I think there's a lot of great conversation over there. And we're trying to build the telegram just because it is a very close-knit community over there. It's somewhere we can all talk back and forth. We plan spaces over there. We do a lot over there, Sam. I mean, I think it's good. And we get a lot of ideas from a lot of people.

Yeah, definitely. The telegram group is great. And, you know, I've said this on the last podcast that I did not have Telegram until you guys started a channel there. But I could not recommend any more highly for everyone to get it and to join. the chat is awesome and it's active all day long. Yeah, for sure. And as many of you know, we are about to do a lot of video content. So we're going to try to do one video live stream per week.

And if you want to see those video live streams as they are happening and being announced, make sure you follow us on X and make sure you follow our Rumble. That is where we stream predominantly too. Also, we got some really good episodes coming up here soon. We're going to be talking about this extreme hurricane season this coming up. I think that the hurricane season is going to blow away historical hurricane seasons that we've seen. Even the NOAA National Weather Service says that we're going to have more named storms than ever before in history. We're also going to be exposing the CIA secret effort to basically seize control of social media.

That's going to be coming up next week. And we also have we're going to be talking about AI and how Elon is warning people that AI is essentially going to replace people and being able to work. And so something that Elon recently said was, hey, guys, you're not going to have to worry about working anymore because AI is going to do everything better than you. We're talking about that. And then bird flu. Bird flu is, I mean, I'm telling you, bird flu is the disease X.

I think it is going to be the next pandemic, whether or not is fictitious or not. And it just so happens that the Who's Pandemic Treaty and a bird flu crisis are both arriving at the same time. Isn't that just so coincidental? Very coincidental. Absolutely. So guys, let's go ahead and break this down or attempt to break this down. Now, like we both said, this is not our area of expertise. And I also believe this is not many people's area of expertise. This is going to be in no specific or sorry, specific order. But we're going to start with Terrence on reversing, aging. And this is what he had to say about this. Check it out. All this started in third grade.

I was arguing with my teacher because we're talking about the square root of 100. Oh, my God. Is that your phone? Yeah, that's my detox thing. I'm supposed to detox right now. How do you detox? You detox on a timer? What do you do?

My wife got me these things, you know, because I'm supposed to take this. What is that? and pure body extract and um there's another one advanced daily cellular detox what's in this oh boy and this too what's in this stuff just things to contract the natural met the metals that we have in our bodies that that wear us out and you just take these periodically throughout the day on timer i got to do it now i got to do it okay i take a dropper part of that dropper and then four sprays, and it removes the parasites from your system,

like oil of oregano, like using oil of oregano, instead of using antibiotics. And have you felt an effect? Yes. Yeah? What do you feel when you take this? Well, I used to have really thick, dark circles under my eyes. That's gone away in the last six months I've been using that.

My skin, I'm 55 years old. I'm 55 years old and I smoke. Do I look like I'm 55 years old? You don't. You look great. And do you think that's because of this? I think, well, I'm going to show you a picture of what I used to look like when my wife met me. And I don't know if you could. She'll be mad if I threw this up.

But she's a beautiful one. But this is what I looked like when my wife met me. And by the way, Terrence is showing here some vials of things that he uses for detox. And I'm playing this clip for a reason. We'll get into that in a minute. Well, now I'm intermittent fasting. I follow her routine. But she turned me from that into this.

It's like she shined up. Yeah, you look about 15 years younger now. Yeah. And that's because of her. I still smoke my cigarettes Why do you do that? I'm a crackhead I don't know

Everybody has to have some vice Like Alan Watts said You've got to have some Some balance of beneficence And rascality to you We have a fan in here by the way If you want to smoke in here You're more than welcome to

I don't trust people You know that walk around Oh I'm just People get so offended by gurus A lot of times and yogis Because they think They're these calm and passive people. When they get angry, they're like, oh, that was a directed anger.

That was a purposeful anger to wake you up to something. And then they find out they have a girlfriend. They find out that they smoke. And they're like, oh, this is a lie. But that's the real person. That's what I loved about Alan Watts. He had a wife, and he had his mistresses. He ended up dying with one of his girlfriend and his wife, you know,

often in his little place. But he spoke the truth. He was honest. Life is about the give and take. There's a balance in there. To be human is to be flawed. It's to be beautiful. Yeah, it's part of the beauty of us. And it's part of the why we create.

I don't think you create from a perfect place of enlightenment. Part of the chaos of being a human being is the beauty of the creation. It's why we create. The most fucked up people, The best artists are some of the most fucked up people. My favorite musicians, my favorite comedians, my favorite actors.

Yeah. Almost all of them are fucked up. Yeah, my uncle used to call it. He said, if you don't get any flower to grow unless you throw some shit on it. All right. So there we go. So that was Terrence Howard. And listen, I wanted to play this clip in particular because there are some things here we got to talk about, number one.

There's some things that, obviously, if you listen to that clip, you might be like, this dude is crazy as hell, even from just this clip, right? Now, there was one thing that kind of stood out to me, Sam, you can tell me if you agree with this, but at first he said that he takes his detox for heavy metals that are in our bodies. And then he says it's for parasites. Then he says it's also for parasites. But he doesn't see this is also for parasites. He said, this is for heavy metals. But then later, or a few seconds later, Joe's like, says some or ask him something. And he's like, yeah, this is for parasites.

Now, there's some truth to his claim, right? You can detox from metals. It's actually pretty difficult, but you might ask yourself, do we have toxic metals in our body? Well, the most well-studied metals or studies on this include aluminum, anti-is-is-money, barium, beryllinium, bismuth, bromine, cabmium, chlorine, fluoride, lead, mercury, nickel, and uranium. and there are a dozen or so more other metals that are in our bodies on a daily basis or we consume or interact with in our environment. So this is actually true. We do interact with metals that do get into our bloodstream and can contribute to all types of

complications. Can you actually detox from those? You can, and there are ways. So already this tells me that, look, this guy is on this mission to try to rid his body of these things that he feels like is in the atmosphere. He feels like and he knows that we interact with on a daily basis. Unfortunately, in our era of living today, whereas we are in advanced civilization or at least more advanced than we used to be, we still have these, I guess we're afforded these advancements

and at the cost of that is interacting with things like this, the fact that we have heavy metals in our body, just like we have plastics in our body. So I think that he's, I mean, I think he's being real here with like, hey, we have metals in our body. He talked about parasites. Yes, you absolutely have parasites as well. But yes, the metal things, for sure, have you heard that saying before? I mean, how many metals or how many things, toxins are in our body on a daily basis?

Yeah, definitely 100%. And the idea of detoxing is certainly not anything new. the first time I came across it was when I began researching vaccines. And heavy metals are interesting. I mean, all of the ones that you listed, I'm sure that there are tons of environmental toxins that we come in contact with. And they're probably, you know, infiltrating our body in different ways. You know, I'm sure that we're getting some of it from ingestion.

We're probably getting some of it from, you know, what we're breathing in. But vaccines to me are particularly interesting because that is actually being injected into our bodies. And probably a lot of the listening audits. is aware of this, some may not be, but when we stopped using live virus vaccines, one thing that you have to add to vaccines in order to promote our illicit in immune response is an adjuvant. And so mercury and aluminum have both been used in order to create that process. And so what's really interesting is if you look up the symptoms of heavy metal poisoning, they line up a lot with the symptoms of autism in some cases. So,

So that's been kind of a highly debated thing in children where there seems to be a correlation potentially between autism and vaccines, which supposedly has been disproven. But you know what? If you're not really looking for the right issue, you know, perhaps it's something that's mimicking autism. So I know it sounds a little crazy what he's saying about detoxing, but I don't think he's totally off base. And I think that certainly 10 years ago, that would have seemed way more out there than it does

now. But I think we're all learning a lot. I think COVID taught us a lot, and I think it's great that we're just starting to question everything. I mean, he could be completely wrong, but why not? Let's look into it. Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, that's obviously a huge thing the RFK is running on right now is the potential damage that vaccines do to our bodies, but more in particular, our kids. That is something the RFK is huge on.

And so there's been a lot of studies on this as far as heavy metals in our body. and then you know you could obviously go into parasites there's so many studies there as well and they talked about intermittent fasting um you know there's been tons of studies about intermittent fasting how good it is for you and it's kind of funny because as intermittent fasting started becoming pretty popular um and it seemed like it was truly making people decently healthy that were you know taking part in this uh i don't want to call it a fad but right now it is a fad until we realize that, you know, are people going to actually do this? Do we have studies to back up, you know, what it actually does for your body? We were getting some of those studies.

But I found it very interesting that instead of mainstream media talking about the good parts of intermittent fasting, I had saw a bunch of articles just a month or two ago where mainstream media was saying how bad intermittent fasting could be. Mainstream media started talking about and saying that intermittent fasting could cause higher risk of cardiovascular disease, which is nuts, right. I mean, they're not talking about McDonald's or fast food or all the things we eat could cause cardiovascular disease. No, instead, they wanted to run with this intermittent fasting thing. And so it's just another example of like, it seems like mainstream media and the government, they don't want you to know the good things that can actually long, that can also, I guess,

prolong your life and give you more longevity. They want to talk about the things that maybe could actually help you. And we saw that during COVID. You know, they were closing down gyms. They were closing down all these places. They weren't. They definitely weren't advertising for eating right or exercising. Instead, they said, take this and you'll be fine. And then they said, take this again. And then they said, oh, wait, this isn't working.

And guys, listen, we need you to take another one because other people aren't taking this. And you guys got to save the world because these people are not doing it. And then what did those people do? They're like, yes, I think that they're right. and we're going to go take another one because these other assholes are not doing it. But you know what? I'll do it. I will take another one and you assholes won't.

So how about that? And I am righteous. So these people thought they were saving the world. Unfortunately, I don't know. Maybe they were in some ways. And I'm not even going to go into how they might be saving the world. So anyways. I mean, God forbid we let our bodies do anything that they're designed to do.

And I mean, if you look back, like look back through the evolution of human beings, we were we're certainly not eating three square meals a day. So, you know, the fact that our bodies are okay with intermittent fasting makes complete sense. No, absolutely. And so, you know, and, and Terrance said, you know, you got to have some balance to the bad and good, right? I mean, he said that I don't trust everything that, you know, when those people come

along that try to proclaim they're perfect or look at you and judge you and say that, oh, because you do this, you're bad or because you say this, you're bad, or because you think this, you're bad. I feel like he probably gets that more so from Hollywood. And I think that even those little things that he says like that, I think is just something deep inside of him that he is getting that from his experiences in Hollywood. And what he has seen from the inside view of really how corrupt, not even corrupt, but just, I mean, we've, listen, we've talked about Hollywood. We've talked about the music industry so many times. it sounds like that it is a very weird occult type environment to where, you know, Satanism is heavily

involved in a lot of that. You got to think about Scientology or all these things. And I think that just that take from what he said, like, like don't trust people that try to pretend like they're perfect. And that's when Joe said, well, you know what? Some of the best people I know are crazy. And I think he was more so talking towards Terrence on this one. he's like, look, some of the smartest people are crazy as hell.

They're the most screwed up people. And I could not agree more. Most people that are geniuses, most people at the time when they were being geniuses thought they were crazy. Oh, for sure. I mean, there's a, oh, yeah, there's a huge correlation. And I had said something to you earlier pre-podcast that is probably not a super popular opinion, but I'm going to say it anyway.

You know, people that have schizophrenia, oftentimes, if you listen to interviews and things with them, I mean, some of them are not lucid and not. enough to do interviews, but the ones that are high functioning, they often talk about a lot of the same things. And I've always found that extremely interesting because simply because we can't understand them or what they're saying seems so far outside of reality. In my opinion, does not necessarily mean that they're wrong. I think there may be some things that they recognize patterns, perhaps, that we don't. Yeah. So I'm very open-minded to a lot of things. No, I agree 100%. And, you know, and also pre-podcast, I told you, I said, you know, I think

Terrence Howard feels like the science community has come against him on a lot of his theories, right? Because up until Terrence went on Joe Rogan podcast, he had had these thoughts before. He had these opinions before. As I told you guys, there are other videos prior or pre Joe Rogan where he's talking about a lot of these things. And so here's a clip of him talking about how Neil de Grice Tyson shunning his research. And I will give you my opinion on the backside of this about what. I think about Neil deGreis-Tyson. Here you go.

There are all physical representations that you've created. Yep. That are all of those things. Same things. That's the Albrein right there. How is this received? Like when you talk to people about this? Oh, man.

They first, because I didn't show them, I hadn't shown them. I introduced it with, let's talk about our fundamentals are a little bit off. There are no straight lines. Right. So I reached out to Neil de Grosy-Tice. Neil deGrasse Tyson. I saw him at an event up front, you know, at Fox. And he was like, hey, man, yeah, I'd love for you to come on my show, do my radio, do my TV thing.

I would love that. I was like, yeah, but let me, I've got something I want to introduce to you. And it was only 36 pages. It was a treatise. And I told him it was controversial. And I sent him over that the 36-page thing that had the wave conjugations in it, I started it off with one times one equaling two. And he went in on my treaties, wrote, redlined everything.

You attacked that I had immediate, that I talked about, Walter Russell and Victor Schauber and John Keely and Tesla as the people that I looked up to. He attacked them. But then he started attacking, you know, the one times one equaling two. how do you talk to them? Oh, he was, because I asked them, I said, under what conditions it said it's illogical, where the square root of a number added to itself would equal more than that number squared. But that's what happens with the square root of two. That's what happens with most of the numbers.

I was like, how is it that multiplication, if it means to make more an increase in number, how is one times one equaling one part of the multiplication table? Now, I understand it if you're seeing it one time. Right. But we call that once. But the moment that you had that at the times in there, that multiplicative indicator, that means there is more than one. So now each equation is supposed to be balanced. You know, that equal sign is supposed to show that there's a balance between these two numbers over here and a balance on this one over here.

What happened to the other one in this equation? It does not, it didn't equate. So back to Neil deGrasse Tyson and this critique of Tesla. So he threw shit on, on, he was like, well, Tesla stuff worked, but Tesla was never really respected and out there. And he wanted, I guess he wanted me to support Boar or Schringer or Feynman or any of those people. And I'm looking at the Feynman diagrams. I'm like, you made all these things up. You've got, you're basically doing the Mr. Spock thing.

If you want to find an answer to something, then you cancel out all the possibilities, all other possibilities, and you root it down to one thing. So that means going through the whole universe to answer one question. And that's the problem with probability. That's the problem with Heisenberg uncertainty. That's the problem with Schrodinger. All of those were just these probabilities because they had taken the ether out. They forgot the electromagnetic wave. It had to have a medium in which it followed on.

It had to have something in which it was moving on. They don't exist in isolation. No, they do not. And it cannot be the cause of its own action. An effect can never be the cause of the action. The chicken cannot come before the chicken. The chicken has to be there first in order to lay it. It has to mate.

And what Einstein left out was the equal and opposite of magnetism. So when he, back to Neil de Gras, when he wrote his response to my paper, and he said, if you have any other questions, you're going to have to see somebody else, and he wouldn't take my calls anymore. I was like, okay, so I wrote the book based off of those responses, and I reached out to another guy, Dr. David Tong. That would be very interesting that that would be his take as a public educator, that he wouldn't want to talk to you anymore. The reason I wanted to talk to him was because of his show The Cosmos that he was doing after that incredible guy, you know, Carl Sagan did.

The very first episode he had was talking about Giodorno Bruno. And he said that Giodorno Bruno was looking for the grand unified field equation and maybe one day somebody is going to do it. And when they do it, it's going to change the world. And I'm like, dude, I've done it. I've got it here. He attacked it so with such vitro that I was like, oh, okay, maybe I need to walk away from this. The Neil de Grouse Tyson thing is so confusing to me that he, so he was critical of Tesla. He was critical of Tesla.

He was critical of Walter Russell. All right, guys. So we'll stop it there with that clip because there's a lot to say about this, right? Yeah, let's just get to the math thing, first of all. There's probably a lot of people out there that are not good at math. And when you hear him start talking about one times one equals two, which is essentially what he was trying to say. So he's essentially trying to challenge the theory of math and why one times one,

even just the very basic concept of one times one equals one, he's trying to challenge the very basic concept of that, right, of multiplication. and by saying that if you actually look at it, one times one would equal two. What is one and then times one? He thinks is two. Now, that might sound crazy, right? I mean, very basic thing. And to be honest, I remember when I was learning, you know, multiplication and I was

in math back in a day, I guess what is that pre, I guess middle school maybe. That was always one thing that I would get confused on when I first started learning it. And it was like, why is one times one equal this? And it's not one times one equals two because that makes more sense. Now, obviously this sounds crazy because you're like, okay, but we know the freaking rules of math. But do we know the rules of math? Because this is when he gets into Nildegreis-Tycin talks about throwing shade on Nikola Tesla. And Nikola Tesla, for those that don't know, the science community in general, which is, by the way, predominantly paid for and funded by the government.

I mean, science is not really science anymore. And if you guys paid any close attention whatsoever during COVID, I think that's what really woke people's minds up to the fact that science is actually not science. Science has become propaganda. And science is propaganda because science can prove or disprove many things that could either harm the government or their consensus on things, such as medical information or God or UFOs or tax. technology, weaponry, you name it. Science plays a huge role in all of that, right?

And so the government has to control science, just like the government has to control the dissemination of information through media. And so if you have these science experiments that are showing all of these things and completely going ass backwards with everything that we thought we knew, and then you had scientists coming out, like, for example, Graham Hancock, or like, for example, Dr. Peter McCull. that was trying to tell people during COVID, guys, this is going to kill people. This is not helping people.

We know that this is the way it is. We know that this is helping people. And what did science do? They said, that's not science and you're going to be canceled. I will take your medical license if you dare say your shit again. Although, if you look at all these people that went against the science community, they were the ones that were right. Now, Nikola Tesla and the way he died and how he ended up and that whole story was very crazy, very conspiratorial. but who was Nikola Tesla?

Well, Tesla was an engineer and inventor. He designed the alternative current or AC electric system, which is the predominant electrical system used across the world today. And he also created the Tesla coil that is still in use in radio technology. But he also had a technology that he created free energy. He had a system that could have been implemented around the world that would have created free energy for everyone. and why was that, why was that a threat to government?

Why was that a threat to the world? Because the same reason Ivermectin, the same reason that vitamins or the same reason that a cancer cure is a threat to the world is because the shills and the bureaucrats and the piece of shit people that want to run the world and control the world, those are the people that are not going to make money on shit that is not expensive or they cannot control. So what Terrence Howard is saying here is, although you might hear this and you might say, this dude's crazy. But you also have to remember that Nildegreis Tyson is one of those guys that's like, oh, aliens aren't real, don't give a shit, don't want to hear it, don't care what anybody has to say, don't want to hear the evidence. I just want to debunk it.

And my science is the science. And who else did we hear back in the day that says, I am the science? Well, that was Falschi. Falki said I'm the science. I am science. And so when you hear Nildegreis Tyson talking very similar to Falki, there's a pattern here. And then you have someone like Terrence Howard, big time actor, goes on the biggest platform on Joe Rogan and the consensus and social media from some people is he's crazy.

Sorry. I'm out of breath now. Well, I'll chime in because, yeah, 100%. A hundred percent. And I have to say that, you know, Neil DeGrasse Tyson makes all of his rounds on the podcast. And incidentally, if you look up his bio, if you just Google him, you know, of course, he's, you know, of course, He's an astrophysicist. He's also an author. But he's also known as a science communicator, which, let me translate that propagandist. Everything that he said, he is someone that even podcasts that I respect and appreciate. Whenever he's on, I have a very hard time listening to him.

He's actually spoken a lot about the COVID vaccine and what was going on during COVID. And, of course, he sides on the side of trust the science and by the science, he does mean, of course, you know, Dr. Fauci. But this is nothing new. And as you know, Chad, I'm a big RFK supporter. But part of the reason is that I've followed this man for many, many years when I was researching vaccines. And, you know, he has taken these huge corporations to task really at the highest level because he's an attorney and he's sued. Basically all of the huge corporations in all different levels where these captive government agencies are not willing to challenge them. And so it's interesting because he actually has a term that they use called biostitutes, which are basically biologists that lie.

for money. And that's not uncommon, in my opinion. And if you want to trust the science, you know, you can find, and this is the point that he makes often, is that you can find experts on either side. If you go, you know, if you sue a corporation, they're going to have your, they're scientific experts. And then he's going to bring his scientific experts. They're obviously going to be saying two different things. That is because that's pretty much the definition of science. It's ever changing. It's constantly asking the questions. And you have to be able to prove and replicate your results. So there's no, this whole science is settled idea is just absurd. And anyone who's saying that or propagandizing that, you should probably be investigating

that person a little bit closer. No, absolutely. Yeah. I mean, yeah, science is solved. Guys, you don't have to look no further. Don't worry about it. CDC's got it. Anthony Falsci, Nildegras-T Tyson, all these people have it solved. All you have to do is just live your life and let us do the work. Let us do the science, quote-unquote, because they are the science. by the way he talks about the ether and electromagnetic waves right and uh this is something that listen um one of the most controversial uh highly disputed um i don't know i guess guests we've ever had on our podcast which we were the first podcast that he ever went on is ashton forbes and i have to bring ashen in on this because when he brought ashen on he's obviously trying to solve the case

of memory 73 70 you have a group of but people that say he's a grifter or he is, you know, doing whatever to try to stay relevant or whatever the case may be. And whether or not you believe the videos, the Ashton Forbes have put, you know, has put forth in his research and in everything he's done where he believes that four orbs, potentially, I guess is four, I guess, teleported in the airplane, which is MH370, nonetheless, regardless of whether you want to believe the videos, although there have been debunks that I got to be honest, a lot of those debunks do not impress me.

I will say that. We've also had and challenged Mick West, which is one of the biggest debunkers. He actually runs Metabunk, I think it's called. Their entire job is to debunk things. That's all they do. No matter what it is, they're going to debunk it. And so Mick West, we have offered him. He did initially say that he would agree to come on and talk with Ashton.

And then as Ashton got better and better at learning and understanding physics and energy and all this stuff and more so, I think, how this could potentially actually have happened. That's when Mick West started to back out of ever wanting to debate Ashton. And I found that very interesting because I'm one of those people. we've had people that have said, hey, I will come on your podcast, but you're not allowed to debate me. You're not allowed to ask questions. It's either going to be my way and what I'm saying or I'm not coming on. And so typically we're like, well, then you're not coming on.

Now, we're not a podcast typically that debates a lot of people because usually when we have people on, we will agree with a lot of what they say or that's predominantly, I guess, why we're having them on. But there have been some people that I didn't necessarily 100% understand. I would have at least asked questions on things that didn't make sense to me. Some of those people said no, not coming on. But through Ashton and kind of just being involved in MH370 thing, talking about the ether, right?

And what is the ether? Well, he's talking about ether here. And the ether in physics and astronomy is basically a, what the internet says is a hypothetical medium for transmitting light and heat radiation, fill in all unoccupied space. It is also called the luminiferous ether. In Newtonian physics, all waves are propagated through a medium, e.g. water waves through water, sound waves through air, et cetera.

And so it's also, in my opinion, when I think about the ether, I think about things we can't see. It's the things we don't understand. Some people might even potentially call that dark matter, which if we look at CERN and a lot of what they're trying to figure out, which is CERN trying to figure out how the universe exists. How did it start? Where did it come from? And what they're trying to do is to, they're trying to harness dark matter. And they've done this, by the way.

They actually have a system in place to be able to harness dark matter, which is a volatile, it's a volatile, I guess you can call it particle, but a volatile mass or I guess what you would maybe even consider the opposite of mass. and so and although it's technically not completely a mass or I guess what you would say is as in atoms, but it is still a mass whether or not you can see it or not. But the ether is very interesting. And so when he talks about the ether here, I saw so many people saying he's crazy. He's talking about some hypothetical physics and astronomy medium for transmitting light and heat radiation. But what I can tell you is, guys, is that the more science and the more people and the more physicists that are learning about the ether, the more they're starting to understand that

this is absolutely 100% possible. And there had been very, very, I think it was Isaac Newton that was one of the first people to propose the, I guess you can say, theory of ether. So even when I hear Terence Howard talking about the ether and everybody is saying that he's freaking crazy, I can tell you through Ashton Forbes and my conversations with some of the people that Ashton has connected with, and some of these people also being government contractors where they have worked on free energy systems that if you knew about them, you would 100% absolutely know that Nikola Tesla was telling the truth.

And you'd also probably know that the ether and how that works and energy and electromagnetism is not a lie and it's not a theory. So yeah, it's just, it's very strange. Um, they, uh, you know, he also talks about they had the flower of life all wrong. Uh, Terrence, how, Terrence had the original patent for AR and VR. Um, but more specifically, he has some stuff that, you know, as we're talking about this, how planets are actually made. I want to get into this because we're talking about some space and ether and all this craziness.

Let's talk about how he thinks planets are actually made. Check this out. And this is rebuilding the planet Saturn. Go ahead. Time for a new laptop? No, I don't know what's going on. Government man. We're about to kill gravity.

We're about to kill their God gravity, and they don't want that. Here we go. From the beginning. And you'll see that you get a surface of the sphere on the inside with the heavier particles. So the colors... Are you basically saying, is this saying that you guys... could recreate? Yes, this is a particle simulation of the physics involved in making up the

physics outside. Wow. Like all the... Yeah, so the heavier particles are creating the red and the green here where the hexagon is, and those are the heavier ones creating the shell of the planet, and then the outsider with lighter particles that are a fluid that's creating the counter-rotation of the atmosphere of Saturn. of Saturn might be observed scientifically. And the red ones in the middle here are where the magnetic field is strongly polarized at the north and so poles, which gives you Aurora Borialis.

I have a question. And by the way, I got to stop and explain what we're looking at here. Terrence has showed him this video to where it's showing this red ring on the outside and a green ring on the inside. These are all made up of particles. and this scientist is essentially saying that they could recreate and actually make or build planets. Let's continue. Now, does this mean that you would be able to control what kind of atmosphere the planet has as well? So you can change that because you can create it.

That means you can change it. We now have a system by which you can. It's the arrangement of mentions and the access on which they are spending information to each other. And any condition that we want. So you can have human life here, is what you're saying? If you were able to, if you're able to change and alter these external fields and understand, like at least this would give us a method of studying it in such a way that we now understand that it's external pressures being applied from the outside end,

not the standard model where you have internal fission reaction, a nuclear in a planet with magnetic fields from iron cores, etc. That's all kind of ego-based at the center. This is pretty solid evidence that everything we're observing is from the outside coming in. So the entire universe is actually creating these planets from the outside in, from space itself. You can stop it. Now, what, so...

Go to that image. Like, if you picture dropping a pebble into a pond or a pool, everything expands in these longitudinal waves, perfect spheres, unless there's something else in there. But when it hits the edge, it all starts bouncing its way back. And when it meets, when these returning waves meet expanding waves, that's when we get our first geometry. So this is the proof that the universe is not infinite but finite because you could not have shape without the returning waves. And the waves would not return unless it was bouncing off of the edge of something.

Look how strange that is. Bingo. Look how strange that that hexagon on the top of Saturn is. Mm-hmm. Or, yeah, that's Saturn, right? Yep. And we don't even. That is so crazy.

He explains exactly how he built it, all the angles of incidents. All the pressure systems that he use. All of that is so it can be a repeated experiment. But they've ignored this. This is in the beginning of my book. You go to my book, that's the first page on there. Before you even open it up, I've got this, and we rebuilt the Milky Way galaxy the same way, and it predicts the star arrangement better than NASA does.

And this is without dark matter. This is without dark energy. This is without the standard model. Is dark matter or dark energy? Are they primarily theoretical? That's all theoretical. They've never witnessed it. And we couldn't prove that Michelson Morley experiment that they did in 1887, which said that there was no effect because they tried to move a table around and change the angle of incidents for light to see if the light changed when you move the table.

The experiment is like this. The mental experiment is like this. If you're going to experiment, you have an A structure and you have a structure. and you have an idea of how A behaves, and you have a thought that if you put A in a particular situation, it's going to turn into B. So let's picture it hypothetically like you have a bar that's maybe six inches long of iron. And you say, okay, well, I think if it goes into the freezer, that it's going to get shorter. So you're supposed to have two exact bars, six inches out, and leave one outside of the refrigerator,

freezer and put one in the fridge or freezer, and then you compare them after you see it. So A over X is equal to B over to R times B over X. R is the result or the change between them. B is the change that occurs. R is what faction or the X that you use in order to get back to A or to convert it to B. What they did with the Michelson-Morley experiment, because they could not get out of the ether. They couldn't step outside of the ether

because it's everything around us. So they couldn't tell a difference whether they saw no result, no change. So they assumed there was a void that there was no ether there. And that's when particle physics took off. Lawrence, a great physicist that everybody loved, entered a paper in 1904

where he was continually explaining the ether, the same way that Maxwell, all of his theories, came off of there being an ether, but he was still limited by Newtonian laws and the column force of opposites attracting when it's the positive is the things that are alike that attract. But he believed that the ether was still and space was flat. And so space-time or Einstein relativity came as a result of them taking the ether away. And for 100 years, we've walked down this particle physics world. That's all theoretical. And here I've patented these wave conjugations that is the ether, is the contraction of the ether and the expansion of it. And on top of that, the proof of it was

I've been able to build new industries from it. All right. So there you go. So that's what Terrence Howard and Joe Rogan are talking about. And I'm sorry, guys, I know that you don't necessarily see the video that they were showing. Essentially, they were just showing a planet and how particles are actually making this planet, right? And so as Terence says here, that the universe is creating planets from the outside in, right? So it's basically compounding on itself to create structures of mass or structures of particles that then create. planets. Now, we do know that the universe is constantly expanding. We've always heard that expanding out and it's expanding outward, but is that because that the universe itself is actually collapsing

in on itself, creating planets, although it is still expanding out. I know that sounds weird. No, that sounds crazy. And I don't, by the way, I want to, I want to make sure I make this very clear. Earlier, I said something about dark matter. What I meant to say was, is that that CERN is used an anti-matter to hunt for dark matter. So there's this article here at new atlas.com, the hunt for dark matter, the mysterious stuff that seems to outnumber regular matter by a ratio of five to one. Has so far turned up, no direct trace. Now, researchers conducting the baron anti-Beron symmetry experiment, or also known as base at CERN,

have tried a new approach using another stage or strange substance antimatter. And dark matter and antimatter are the heart of the two biggest unsolved mysteries of the universe. According to the astronomical observations, there is far more mass out in space than the stuff we can actually see or account for. And this is invisible mass, and it is dubbed dark matter.

We don't really know what it is made up, but there are a whole range of theories attempting to explain it, including electrically charged particles, dark photons, super heavy gravitons, and even a dark fluid with negative mass. Now, I know this sounds crazy, and I know this sounds like something that Ashton would be talking about right now. But antimatter, on the other hand, is a very much of a real thing that we can make and study

directly. In essence, it's just a regular matter that has the opposite charge. But that means if a particle and its equivalent antiparticle meet, they will annihilate each other in a burst of energy. And models suggest that the equal amounts of matter and antimatter should have been created in the big bang. But in our experiments or experience, anti-matter is extremely rare. The question remains then, where is all the anti-matter? So, Sam, what this article seems to say is that we know that anti-matter actually exists.

We actually, I believe, harness it. I think CERN harnesses anti-matter. That's what they are using to try to find dark matter. So when Terence Howard's sitting here talking about the expansion of planets and the universe and ether and everything else, I don't think it's a huge conspiracy theory or some crazy outlandish thing to say that antimatter for sure exists. And they're actually using it to try to find dark matter. And they even say here that dark matter out there. that dark matter outnumbers regular matter by a ratio of five to one.

And, you know, like I said a minute ago, we don't 100% know what exactly dark matter is. But it seems like CERN and the fact they're building these massive structures over in Switzerland and other places. And there's also other CERNs. There's some CERNs here, not named CERN, but there are particle colliders in the United States. There's particle colliders in the United States. in the UK, I believe. China also has one. What are your thoughts on this same?

Well, this is far outside of my depth. But what I will say is that my understanding from listening to Terrence Howard is that he does not actually believe in the existence of dark matter. Dark matter, from what I understand, it does not interact with the electromagnetic field. And so I think what he is trying to say,

I don't know how many clips you've pulled, but he gives a lot of examples of the negative space between four spheres, six, eight, 12. He has apparently some patents on this. And it's from everything I understood from him. He believes that everything in our universe sort of functions as an inhale and an exhale. And so it seems that he does not feel like dark matter fits into that

because it's not interacting with the electromagnetic field. So that's what I've gathered from him. And I think that's what he was mentioning when he talks about CERN. It seems to me that he's essentially saying that the scientific community is kind of creating these answers when they don't have something to sort of fill in the blank in these equations or things that they're trying to figure out. And that perhaps it's because they have the wrong equation in place. And so I could be wrong, but I think he does not actually believe in the idea of dark matter,

and that's why it is theoretical. And he's saying that the reason they haven't been able to prove that is because they're going about it the wrong way. And instead, they should be using these calculations and theories that he is, no, been, I guess, understood since the womb. No, that makes sense. And like I said, I think the one thing that CERN has been doing, there's been a lot of weird speculation coming out of CERN.

there's been some people that potential are whistleblowers that, you know, at the very least, the Higgs bosom particle, I believe CERN has proven the existence of other dimensions. If you kind of dive deep into that, I think they kind of know that exist. And it's like they're on this mission to try to prove the big bang theory. And it seems like the more they try to prove the big bang theory exists or the existence of how that would even be possible, in my opinion, I feel like they're coming and I guess they're stumbling on some things that maybe be, I guess may be more spiritual in nature,

places that things could exist without just complete 100% science of how the universe actually ever started. And if you guys do a rabbit hole deep dive in the CERN and some of the things they're finding and understanding and starting to figure out, CERN, I believe, is starting to find things that are not necessarily so scientifically proven. And so some of these things are finding, such as other dimensions and the possibility of these things, it seems like it's going against their evidence, more so for what they're trying to prove,

which is the Big Bang, that something happened out of nowhere, although the biggest question for the Big Bang theory is how did anything happen from nowhere? That's always also been the question of God, right? and although we don't understand and can't understand where God ever actually came from, the same thing exists with the Big Bang Theory. And has that been, have you ever thought about that, Sam? Like, if the Big Bang Theory came from nothing, how did God come from nothing? Where did he come from, right?

Sure. I mean, I think that's the biggest, you know, existential question as human being, very much like which came first, the chicken or the egg sort of thing. And he does go into, in this podcast as well, sort of talking about the theory of God and that, you know, perhaps we are each God as well as part of a bigger picture. But, yeah, I think that's something that obviously we're never going to get clear answers on. It's interesting, though, when you look at the scientific community, and there are a lot of things that it seems like they don't necessarily have the answers for,

they're searching for the answers, but the fundamentals that they're building it on, especially when you start talking about outer space and what we, you know, seem to understand, even about the core of the earth and whatnot, some of that just, seems like such speculation to me. I mean, you know, obviously we've never accessed the core of the earth. So we are speculating based on a lot of different evidence, I guess, from things that we do know of sort of what the earth is comprised of. But when you have so much that you're speculating and you're using that to build upon these new theories, I don't think it would be surprising that you could end up in a place where you do have these questions that are

unanswered and you're having to give some sort of answer for it, which I think is to his point where concepts like dark matter come into play and we're searching and searching to try to prove something that may not be there. But I think from looking at history, science seems to have changed dramatically in the last few decades that, and I don't know if it's just because it is being used so much as the tool of propaganda now, but in a lot of times, feels like the questioning of anything that is considered to be a proven scientific theory is it's impossible. I mean, it's completely, it's not something that we're even able to question anymore. And again, that just goes completely against the basis of science. And so I don't really

know where this leaves us because you do have people like Terrence Howard who may be a crazy person or he may be onto something. But if we can't get him together with other great minds to be able to dive into this stuff because everything is so settled already, I don't know how we really move forward. I mean, there's always scientific advancements, but we have to be willing to question things. Yeah. And speaking of the Earth, for example,

things that we don't know, did you guys know that there was a massive ocean found 700 kilometers beneath the Earth's surface? And so you might want to ask how far as 700 kilometers. That's 434 miles under our surface. there was a massive ocean found. And this, by the way, is from weatherchannel.com. Weather.com.

Noah's talked about it. You can look it up. But yeah, there was a massive ocean. Imagine an ocean vaster than all of the water on Earth's surface combined, hidden 700 kilometers beneath our feet. And this is the mind-boggling discovery scientists at Northwestern University have unveiled shaking the understanding of where Earth's water actually comes from. And so this article says for years, scientists have to be.

debated the origins of Earth's water. Comets were the prime suspects delivering their icy payloads through impacts, but this new discovery throws a wrench in that theory. And researchers led by geophysicist Stephen Jacobson stumbled upon a colossal water reservoir that is trapped within the Earth's mantle and a scorching hot layer beneath the crust, the hidden ocean three times the size of its surface counterparts, is cradled with a mineral called ring. Woodite. So this is just something else. I mean, literally in ocean, and I don't know if you

guys heard this, this ocean under our freaking feet, 434 miles under our feet is larger than any water body combined on the surface. And that's just fascinating to me. And so when you say, like, you know, science is science. Science is proven. It's not. We don't know shit about our own planet. That's what's so crazy. And the fact that we're trying to figure out everything else and you think that we're going to mysteriously figure out and understand everything out. I mean, the fact that so many people say, oh, UFOs don't exist. God don't exist. All these things. But yet we have a freaking ocean under our feet 434 miles down. And in 2014, scientists made this discovery. But you got to ask yourself, why has it not been all over

mainstream media? Is not, I mean, is that not fascinating? into you? 100%. And actually, that makes a lot of sense to me because I'll go off into a story here that will make me potentially look crazy. But I have an uncle. My family grew up out in the country. And so there was no city water or anything nearby.

So people had to dig wells. And this is still to this day. I mean, this is how people get water to their homes. My uncle was one of the people that they would call to come out and find a well. And I'm sure there is like a great scientific way to do this with Mr. and whatnot, but like literally, I've watched him do this. He has been able to go out with like a stick, a piece of metal, whatever. And when he gets over an area that there is a lot of water underground, it will start moving.

I have no idea that has to do with the chemicals, the metals, the frequency of his body. I don't know what is interacting with. But I just remember being a kid and him explaining to me that there are basically like creeks and rivers underground. And if you don't actually tap into the right area, when you dig a well, you're not going to be able to get enough gallons per minute to, you know, run your home. Yeah. And so that water has to go somewhere or come from somewhere.

And I assume the presumption up until this point has just been that it's partially running underground and then it's going into oceans that are not underground, I suppose, or terrestrial oceans, that's even a thing. But it makes sense that there could be larger bodies of water under the ground. And again, this is just to my point that we don't know what we don't know. And there's some things I think we like to pretend that we have complete factual 100% evidence. And we build off of those things. Yeah.

That I don't think that's the case. But academia and the scientific community, they are so hesitant to be challenged about anything. It's like once it's in a book, that's it. You know, we're not going to talk about it anymore. Let's move on. Yeah. And it just seems like they're hiding something, though. I mean, I think more so it's like, I don't know that they care so much about being so wrong.

rather than they're hiding something they don't want us to know. And what is that, right? Because, for example, think about the oceans that we have here. You know, we know that we've only explored with 5% of our oceans on the surface. And so, or I think it may, maybe they're saying 10% now. But nonetheless, I mean, there are so many creatures in the depths of our ocean that we don't even know what the hell of these things are. I mean, we have literal aliens on the bottom of some of our seabeds that we have no idea what they are. And we're discovering new creatures every single day.

And so imagine a freaking ocean underground 434 miles. And you know, you might say, I don't know. And by the way, I don't know what the ocean temperatures there. I don't know. I mean, there's probably people that are speculating. Ocean temperatures are really too hot. You know, that'll be the next thing. It's too hot for life.

That's not possible. But we also know that the pressure and the temperatures even on our oceans to where you get down and the amount of pressure it takes for something to be able to survive at those depths is rare, they said, but now we're starting to find more and more that creatures adapt no matter what. And it's like there will be things down there that cannot survive towards the surface and vice versa. and so what the hell is living in these oceans that is far beyond anything we have on the surface? That's just something to think about. I mean, who the hell knows? Maybe these little flying freaking disc coming from everywhere is coming from those oceans because they seem to like water.

And maybe there's some kind of little portal somewhere. We don't know. But it's just weird. That's always sort of been my theory. I do almost feel like outer space, quote unquote, as we know it, in terms of where UFOs or UAPs are coming from may just be the ocean all of this time. Yeah. That's just been like a fun sort of thought experiment that I've always had even since I was a kid.

And then you have things come out like, you know, lieutenant or whatever his position was, David Fraber that saw the Tick-Tac. I was going to say Lieutenant Dan, but go ahead. Right. Him, him, him too. But no, like, I mean, I think that supports a bit, maybe that concept. But to your point a moment ago, I do think it's possible that there is, you know, a very elite tier of humans that do have. access to all of the true knowledge of this world, you know, however they've obtained it. But I think when you break it down to a lower level of the scientific community,

I do think that the reason they're so hesitant to be challenged, it is just a matter of arrogance in a lot of cases. But I feel like they're almost taught, they're almost formed that way. And that could very much be intentional because the best way to use someone for propaganda is if they believe what they're saying. Yeah. Now you're right. You're 100%. right and and it goes back to there there's going to be an episode we're going to do pretty soon we're trying to get the author this book on but about the the CIA releasing the the Lyme disease and so many actually you know so many diseases we know about now especially like tick-borne diseases and all this stuff and so we just don't know how much

information how much knowledge our deep dark clandestine you know agencies have that we just do not have any clue of. I mean, are they that dumb that they don't know what potentially is actually in our oceans or all of this? We don't know. And guys, just so you know, we're actually planning a trip out in the ocean very soon. We're actually in the pretty deep processes of planning this right now. And our main goal to plan this trip on a research vessel, we have an incredible guy that

volunteered his research vessel. we also have another listener that volunteered. He actually has Fleer data and some other stuff. But anyways, we're going to go out in the ocean and find some stuff. We're not going to talk a lot about it. Actually, no, I'm thinking about it. Because we had that conversation in the other day. But just be looking out for something July or August or maybe September.

It depends on when we can get out there. There's going to be some things we're going to try to uncover. I will leave it at that. And then also we have, like I said, the extreme hurricane. season episode. It's going to be out next week at some point. And just so you know, we're going to be on the ground on some of these cat five hurricanes this year. I know that sounds absolutely crazy as I'm even saying it.

It does. Yeah, but we want to be there. We want to actually experience it. We want to give you guys some content. Just show you how forceful hurricanes are. But especially the fact that, you know, there are, it's like everyone is prepping us for this. massive season of hurricanes and it to where it could literally just debilitate massive sections of the United States and you're going to go back to weather modification or are they going to use

this as a way to debilitate certain areas of the United States and to take down power grids we don't know but nonetheless we're going to be there um this next clip I want to play because we're going to get through a few more um how planet or sorry sorry black holes do not exist that's what terence Howard says, so we got to believe it. Here you go. Let's listen to what he says here. What do you think of black hole is? It doesn't exist.

There aren't black holes. There's no spot where energy goes in and never comes back out. There's no place in the universe where the information paradox occurs, where there isn't a balance. Something gets contracted and never comes out. That's not how the universe behave. It comes in and it goes out. When Newton said that gravity pulls down, if he had, with that apple, yes, the apple was attracted to light conditions on the earth.

It was attracted to light conditions. If he had spent another week or two weeks watching that apple, he would have watched the gases go right back up to where they were equalized. Everything, if it comes this way, it has to go this way. You breathe in, you breathe out. It's filling in or pouring out. So what do you think they're detecting when they're detecting black holes? That shift that they're talking about.

That's the tornado. Remember, there's a vortacy. There's all these huge vortices. Everything is spinning around a vortices. So a collection of larger vortices is going to have the same thing that's happening at the center of the galaxy is happening in the center of a hurricane. It's happening in your toilet stool. Which is why the galaxy is a circular disk in the first place. Everything.

All motion is expressed. waves, all waves are expressed in curves. It always makes spirals. So because of the concept of gravity and because of the concept of this event horizon, this super point of gravity, this infinite point that light can't even escape, that this exists because of the theory of gravity. And their math. Remember, they have a thing called zero. They go from one to zero to negative one. There is no zero to even think zero. So do you think

that zero is a concept that came along with currency? It should be attached to currency in that regard because in physics there is, it's either nothing remains still. There's nothing steel in the universe. There's nothing that doesn't have motion because

everything is connected. So if one thing is still, everything that's connected to it has to be still. There can never be one thing still. So as electricity tries to get to its balanced state, right when it gets there, magnetism takes over and it pushes over. So there's this pendulum. And as soon as it gets to this state, it bounces off that other noble gas and it makes its way all the way back over here and it's about to have equanimity. And then it gets pulled back into the other direction.

And that's the breathing in and breathing out and the pendulum effect that we've all observed the natural phenomena in the universe. And that's a part of everything. Everything behaves that way. every one of our cells, comes down to our cells are made up of water, mostly water, 80% and 90% water somewhere. Water is hydrogen.

Hydrogen has 12 vortices that's behaving with it, 12 opposing vortices. So what, in your model, what happens to these suns when they supernova? Everything gets old and die. Everything gets old and die. And does everything

recompress? Has to. And you breathe out, what happens to that air. Another plant breathes that air in. So would this be the universe itself? Would it be galaxies? Would it be everything? Everything. It pays the same way. So as the sun expands and

projects and ejects particles, they expand, they go further and further from the sun, and at a certain point, they come back. Well, at a certain point, what do they hit? There's other expanding stars and and

so like waves colliding. Yes. From the other star systems. They have an expanding, what is the thing? The solar wind. They have expanding solar winds. So when they meet our star meets the solar wind from another star at that end of that spot, now there's two pressure conditions. So you have another Lagrange spot that's happening there. That's when those waves start coming back, but they get hit. And if they hit at 120, degrees because that's how the universe is arranged. Now these things become electric. So instead of coming from the planar side and expanding out of the equator, they now come back up from the northern and southern parts. So does this account for stellar nurseries? Yes. All of these things are just pressure conditions hitting each other. And they're causing that. That's where the Berklin currents are running through, those higher electrical fields. But everything in the universe is just electricity.

And we call it magnetism when it's devitalized, but it's still electricity. All right, so there you go. There's what Terrence had to say about black holes, which, by the way, I'm going to go ahead and tell you. I think he's wrong on this one. 100%. Sam, is there any movie in particular that you might recall that has anything to do with black holes? Any movie? Any movie in particular?

Yeah, any movie. Just name one. Any movie. Any movie I tout often. What is? I know which one you're talking about, but I can't think of the name of it. Interstellar. Interstellar.

And listen, so the reality of the black hole thing, which is his main point of this. And the reason that he says that black holes don't exist is because he says that there is no place on Earth. The energy comes in and never comes out, right? because energy cannot be controlled. It can, it can, it cannot be killed, right? It cannot be destroyed. Now, if you think about this from a very, very weird, either theological, scientific, or philosophical way, there's many ways you can think of this. You can think of it religiously.

The fact that when you die, your energy goes somewhere. It does not cease to exist anymore just because your physical, your physical, your physical, your, physical body, your mass, your matter ceases to exist or not cease to exist, but dies and decays. That is what a, I guess you could say would be a death of a person, a capsule of a energy, which I believe we are. And so then you've got to think about, okay, well, energy, if what he's saying is true, which I believe, by the way, it is true, that I don't think that energy dies. I think energy always survives.

I think energy always goes from one place to another. the biggest question I believe in life and history and biblically and everything is where does energy go once it leaves a physical structure or body, right? And I think that scientifically we're trying to figure that out as well. Even when you look at, you know, the Big Bang theory, you look at how the universe was created and all of this stuff. We're trying to figure out what happens or where did the energy come from? Where does it go? What happens if stars explode? Does that energy go into something else?

Well, if you think about this, energy does. There's been many, many scientists have said because of explosions of either suns or moons or whatever the case. Typically suns, though, a lot of those explosions potentially created planets or can create other forms of mass, right? So that may be a planet. But nonetheless, energy doesn't ever die. And I believe that. What he's saying here? I believe that.

But the fact that he's saying black holes don't exist means that he doesn't understand what black holes actually are because I get it. If he believes that black holes, you suck something in and whatever goes in doesn't come out, well, then, okay, maybe he would be right on that if that was true. But let me reference a movie, which I love. It's interstellar. By the way, I think this is from science.com and futurism.com, and there's a bunch of different articles.

that kind of talk about interstellar, but a new theory on living inside of a black hole, what really happens when he fall into a black hole? So I'm not going to give away the movie of Interstellar. I want you guys to watch it if you have not. But there is a spoiler a little bit here. In the movie Intercellar, the main character Cooper escapes from a black hole in time to see his daughter

at some point in time. I'm not going to say when he sees her daughter, because that would be a spoiler. But some have argued that the movie is so scientific that it should be taught in schools. And in reality, many scientists believe that anything sent into a black hole would probably just be destroyed. So that's where Terrence is getting this from.

But a new study is suggesting that they may not be right. Sorry, they may not be right. All these scientists are saying, oh, if it goes in a black hole, it's going to die. There's new studies showing that this may not be the case at all. So Hawkins, 40 years ago, Stephen Hawkins shocked the scientific establishment with his discovery that black holes aren't really black. classical physics implies that anything falling through the horizon of a black hole can never escape. But the hawkins showed that the black holes continually emit radiation once quantum effects are taken into account.

So unfortunately, for typical astrophysical black holes, the temperatures of their radiation is far lower than that of cosmic microwave backgrounds, meaning that detecting them is beyond current technology. Sorry, hawking calculations are perplexing. If a black hole continually emits radiation, it'll continually lose mass, eventually evaporating. And Hawking realized that this implied a paradox. If a black hole can evaporate, the information about it will be lost forever. That means that even if we could measure the radiation from a black hole, we could never figure out if it was originally formed. This violates an important rule of quantum mechanics that states that information cannot be lost or created.

So another way to look at this is that. that hawking radiation poses a problem with detrimism of black holes. No, sorry, determinism. Now, determinism implies that the state of the universe at any given time is uniquely determined from its state at any other time. This is how we can trace its evolution both astronomically and mathematically through quantum mechanics. But this means that the loss of determination, or sorry, oh my God, this word is hard.

The terminism would have to arise from the reconciling quantum mechanics with Einstein's theory of gravity. So a notoriously hard problem and ultimate goal for many physicists. Black hole physics provide a test for any potential quantum gravity theory. Whatever your theory is, it must explain what happens to the information recording in black hole's history. It took two decades for scientists to come up with a solution. They suggested that the information stored in a black hole is reported. portion onto its surface area in two dimensions, rather than its volume, which is in three dimensions. This could be explained by quantum gravity, where a three dimension of space could

be reconstructed from a two-dimensional world without gravity, much like a hologram. And so shortly afterwards, string theory, the most studied theory of quantum gravity, was shown to be holographic in the same way. So using holography, we can describe the evaporation of a black hole in two-dimensional world, without gravity, for which the usual rules of quantum mechanics apply, and the process is deterministic, with small imperfections in the radiation encoding the history of the black hole. The holography tells us that the information is not lost in the black holes, but tracking down the flaw in Hawkins' original arguments, has been surprisingly very hard.

And it goes to fuzz balls and firewalls, but exactly what the black hole describes by quantum theory looks like it's harder to work out. In 2003, Samir Mathur proposed the black holes are, in fact, fuzzballs in which there is no sharp horizon. Quantum fluctuations around the horizon region records the information about the black hole's history, thus Martha's proposal resolves the information loss paradox. However, the idea has been criticized since it implies that something falling into a fuzzball has a very different experience to somebody falling into a black hole.

described by Einstein's theory of general relativity. So, so if we're getting into this, Einstein's theory of general relativity is actually what kind of negates what would happen if you did fall into a black hole. But as we're starting to figure out and understand, energy does not cease to exist. Now, if you fall into a black hole and I want you guys to all watch the movie Interstellar because I want you to understand what I'm talking about here, because it's going be probably a little bit difficult for me to explain. But if you fall into a black hole, are you going to come out as a human being, as a person in a physical body? Not necessarily.

And I think that what you may instead come out as is that you are still a person. You are still a soul. You are still a thing. But you may not be a thing like as in we understand and see a person and a consciousness on earth. But you would still technically have a thing. a consciousness, you would actually probably be able to interact with things on earth or things in our universe and in our world and in part of your life that you had done so before, but you're not going to be able to interact in the same way. You're not going to be able to particularly interact in a physical form, although you may be able to interact in a, I don't know, do you want to call it an interdimensional realm,

another realm, a holographic realm, to where it's not necessarily three-dimensional, but if you say that it's not three-dimensional, even if you go into a two-d perspective, a two-day dimension, we often think sometimes as like, if you're going to be a ghost or you're going to be some type of interdimensional creature,

you've got to go to some other realm. You've got to go like far beyond eight, nine, or tenth dimension, right? But what if you are in a two-dimensional realm, in a holographic realm, that would, you know, number one, it would mean that, yeah, you may have some physical characteristics potentially, but I just see this black hole thing is like,

number one, energy does not die in a black hole. But I think that if you could experiment somehow by throwing someone in a black hole and seeing and somehow documenting what happens to them during this process, I think Interstellar really shows scientific in some theorized, some theorized perspectives of what may happen. And I think that that all points to interdimensionalality and being able to interact with the world in not necessarily a three-dimensional realm.

And I personally feel like not even in a physical realm. Does that make, I mean, what do you think about that, Sam? Well, let me see if I understand what you're suggesting, because first of all, Terence Howard really seems to believe that just a lot of the very basic principles that we understand of science are incorrect. For instance, he does not seem to agree with the theory of gravity. And I understand if he's working off of that theory that he does not believe that a black hole exists because the idea, to your point, is that, you know, if something is sucked into a black hole, it does not come back out. And he's very much, he seems to really form everything off of the basics. is that there's always this inhale-exel concept.

So I think I understand what you're saying is that both of those things could be true at the same time that he may be theorizing a black hole the wrong way, that just because something goes in and does not come back out as it once existed, it doesn't mean that it doesn't come back out at all. Sort of the same example he was giving of the apple falling to the ground and that being the theory that, you know,

gravity's pulling everything to the center of the earth. but if you wait long enough, you would see that the gases would escape and they would go back into the atmosphere and they would balance again. Yeah. So, I mean, that actually feels like a very good example. It seems very parallel, really, that you would have an apple, which is, you know, obviously a very defined mass falling to the earth and not taking into account that there are gases that would be escaping that we can't see, which could be similar to if a human being were to go into a black hole and comes back out in some type of spirit. ritual, you know, we can't see gas. You can't see spirits necessarily. But if we are going to work off in theory that energy is neither created nor destroyed, I think that can exist in all of the other theories that he's working within. And I'll just say on a human level with that,

you know, I've recently experienced the death of someone extremely close to me. We talked about it before. And the concept of just a human being and what is a soul and what is consciousness. And for anyone who's ever been around a loved one's body when they're dead, it is a bizarre feeling because you're looking at this person, at least their body of this person you've known for your entire life at times. And it's like, it's just not there. It's just not the same. It truly is a vessel. And so where is that energy? going. Yeah.

They're not. I mean, but I don't think that energy, I don't think it's just like boom, lights out and it evaporates. No.

I mean, it exists in some capacity somewhere. And this really does go all into the spiritual realm, you know, interdimensionality. This, we have a lot of questions

in this world that I think a lot of people are trying to figure out from different angles. And I do feel like we're starting to get a better understanding of it. But there's a lot of things that we just may never know.

But I think it's important that we at least ask the questions and try to conceptualize it the best way that we can, especially when it comes to things like death. Yeah, you're right. I mean, and the big question is, I think what Interstellar did pretty well is, to your point, of gas is escaping, even though it goes in,

does it come out the same way it went in? And just because you make a good point there, just because it doesn't go in the same, or sorry, just because it doesn't come out the same way it came in, and maybe we cannot even quantify that, right? Maybe we can't even measure how it comes out. But, you know, even beyond that, I think what Interstellar does, at least in my belief, is that even in that way, the biggest question would be if you fall in a black hole and then you are no longer a physical being because it destroys that aspect of you, just much like even death destroys your body eventually over time. You decay.

You rot. You all that. But I still think Interstellar kind of shows and points to that you are still an intelligent. life form, an intelligent energy, not just a gas that goes somewhere and create something or goes into something else. I think interstellar kind of shows that you become, you are still the same. You are still the same thing that existed in that body. And maybe you might have some other ways of doing things, communicating, seeing things.

You have far beyond capabilities you would have in a physical realm. But I believe Interstellar does a good job of just showing that I think that that energy still exist as intelligence and as a consciousness and as a soul. And that's the way I see the movie. I also think potentially that's, you know, I don't know. I mean, I don't know. I've never been in a black hole. I don't know necessarily that I would sign up to jump in a black hole.

Me either. I don't think I want to be on board for that one. But there are definitely people that, you know, you can find on X that we would definitely, I mean, we could sign up to jump in a black hole just to see what happens. Run a giveaway. Absolutely. You know what? I'll say this.

And again, like this entire conversation, I want to just admittedly say is so far out of my depth. But at the same time, to your point earlier, I don't know that it's really within anyone's.

But when we're looking at this example of an apple, you know, we have a periodic table with all the elements that we are at least aware of, but I think we are becoming more acquainted with the idea

that there are probably a lot of elements that we have not discovered that we don't understand that perhaps we will never be able to quantify to your point or measure. So when you're looking at the example of the apple, you know, his example is that the gases that would escape would go back into the atmosphere. So we're looking at elements that we already know exist.

You know, we're looking at the elements that we know make up an apple. But when you're talking about a human being, I'm sure there's elements that we don't, you know, what exactly are we comprised of? We don't understand consciousness. That is one thing the scientific community will completely admit. So like what are these elements? What are these things that build a human that create a soul that create consciousness? So if those things are what is expelled from this black hole, if we don't even know what those are,

there would be no way to conceptualize it at all. No, you're right. 100%. And by the way, speaking of periodic table, let's get into what Terrence Howard believes about periodic table. He wanted to rewrite the periodic table. And by the way, guys, we're going to do probably this clip. and there's two more we have to do. And I won't probably break down the periodic table as much.

I think Sam just kind of did a little bit of that. But I want you to at least hear what he says about this. And there are two other things that I have to break down that he says. But let's listen to what Terrence Howard says. I wanted to rewrite the periodic table. Here you go. My intention was to rebuild the periodic table, you know, build a new period. table because the stuff I had learned in college, you know, I went to school for chemical

engineering the first year ever at Pratt. And they, at the time, I think it was like 108 elements. And I'd asked, I told the teacher, the professor, about the relationship between hydrogen on the spectrometer and carbon and silicone and cobalt. And it was like it's the same exact color, same tone, just doubled in each octave. And he was like, no, each element is the same element, and it will always be that element. And it was like, you don't see the relationship. So I left school, and I was going to spend 40 years rebuilding a periodic table.

And I found out that Walter Russell had already did that. And he did it based upon the natural curvature of everything. And when you say rebuild the periodic table, what do you mean specifically? Well, the way the periodic table is laid out the periodic table they have now. Let's see it. It looks like a box. It looks like a straight box. And they don't show the relationship that between every element, there's two no...

Here's a periodic table. You'll see hydrogen sitting all the way over there by itself, but they don't show that hydrogen has the same tone as carbon. What do you mean by tone? Same tone. Same key of E. Same key of E. 40.5 Hertz. The next one would be like 81 hertz.

You go to silicon. It will double up and would be 162 hertz. You'll go to cobalt and it'll be 324 hertz. It's, you know, in that base, if you were to take the angles of incidents or the tones that they create, you know, their color. Like you can turn color back into sound based upon, it's the same wavelength. it's just twice as long or much longer. So all you have to do is keep dividing light by two. Keep that up to you?

You keep dividing light by two, and you'll ultimately get back to the audible sound of it because there was a relationship between light and color, sound and tone, matter and shape. I sent over Walter Russell's. I was trying to get to that. That's what? Yeah, it's Walter Russell's periodic table that he put together.

Now, you will compare that to what we, menelaev's periodic table. You'll compare Walter Russell to it, and you'll see something completely different. It's unwinding. Whoa. It's unwinding. And you see there's a relationship that hydrogen... So you had figured this out at a young age? I had already seen this.

This was all inside of... This was all inside of that palace. I had access to it. And I knew the relationship. So you saw this in dreams. I saw it as a circle. Everything was a full circle laid out. And each area was just expanding, like wrapping a rag around your hand.

The first wrap, you know, it's so tight. The very first wrap is so tight. That's the first one that Walter Russell did. Yeah. But go back to the wiggly one. This is how I saw it more so, but as a vortex. But you'll see there's a relationship between hydrogen, carbon, silicon, cobalt, rhodium. They're all bonded.

They're all as the middle point between two noble gases. So those things don't really exist. It's only one substance. Now, the problem is the first thing that we're able to perceive is hydrogen. that's the first visible element, because before it is too dint for us to perceive it. You understand what I'm saying? Okay. But as you reach into the next octave, the carbon octave, and they call that a bisexual tone,

because the carbon has two tones to it. It has a negative side and a positive side. The part where lithium behaves, lithium is a, is contractive. Barillium is contractive. Boron is contractive. But the moment you get to carbon, you balance it out. It gets to a perfect balance, a plus and minus four.

So it's a double tone. Then nitrogen is minus 3.1. Minus 3. Oxygen is minus 2. Fluorine is minus 1. Now, the balance of this, all of those are mates. Florine and lithium naturally mate. If you have lithium bonded with any other element, the moment that fluorine is introduced, it will break all bonds violently so it can bond with fluorine.

Same thing with beryllium and oxygen. That's why it's it. And what they've tried to keep from us, if you have, you want to break water into its component parts of hydrogen and oxygen, all you have to do is introduce beryllium or the sound of beryllium. and oxygen will violently break away from any other thing, even hydrogen, to bond with that beryllium. There you go. That is most of what Terrence Howard had to say about the periodic table. And listen, I got to be honest, I'm sitting here playing these clips and I'm looking at some of these YouTube comments. And as we're seeing comments like, this is the guy that you do not want to talk to at a party.

you know like if you go to a party this is the guy that you accidentally get into some crazy ass conversation with um and by the way i've i've had those people before like if if if you meet someone at a party or get together you're like oh shit i opened up the floodgates of whatever you're about to say um but the reality is too is like i just don't think people understand and i got to be honest with you guys i've watched i've watched it i've watched it again Terrence is not dumb. I'm going to tell you right now. He is not dumb.

He is getting a lot of things right. And I think that he's connecting a lot of things, although I don't necessarily know 100% he is connecting them on a, on a complete level, maybe. He's connecting a lot. He knows a lot about a lot, right? He knows about the periodic table. One of the things that 100% jumped out to me is frequencies in the periodic table,

right? Yes. And so when you talk about frequencies, the periodic table can be used to show frequencies in so many ways. I mean, including, by the way, frequency of occurrence. So a periodic table can show the frequency of elements occurring in a dataset. And so with color or labels representing that frequency. A audible elements, a periodic table can show their frequencies of elements as notes on a scale that can be played individually or combined to create sounds. And this is called the atom tones or on the periodic table.

Nuclear magnetic resonance, a periodic table can show the frequency of nuclear magnetic resonance, or also known as MHR, active nuclei at a different hurt, right? So in physics, frequency is the number of waves that pass a fixed point in a unit of time or the number of cycles or vibrations that occur during a unit of time. all elements have a frequency or set of frequencies at which they vibrate. Now, obviously, Terence gets in here and he's talking about, you know, how carbon is balanced, although there are definite things in our periodic table that are volatile towards each other and how the relationships between elements interact with each other.

But I think if you've got to go back just to the frequency aspect of it, everything that we understand, or at least everything I've studied and I'm starting to understand is that everything is on frequencies. And you talk about interdimensional. You talk about our body. You talk about our mind, our frequency in our mind and how we connect brain waves, how our heart works, how the Schumann resonance, which is the Earth's heartbeat and how that works. Everything is on a frequency.

Everything is things that we can't see. We don't see frequencies. There are ways that we can see parts of the periodic table, just like you said, which is hydrogen, for example, and things like that. But frequency, frequency, frequency. And what does frequency do? Well, frequency plays a part in all these elements that some are seen and some are not. And I think that if we want to solve the riddle of life, how do we figure out how frequencies interact, play a role and even even because by the way I think our soul and who we are our consciousness

I think this all frequency and I think it's frequency we just haven't figured out yet Sam what do you think 100% and actually this is one of the most fascinating I'm glad you played this clip because this is one of the most fascinating concepts that you talk about this idea of introducing just the frequency of beryllium would separate oxygen and hydrogen it just makes me from water and it just makes me think about you know the videos you see where someone will have water on the table and they'll play certain frequencies and the water makes different patterns, which I've always found that just super fascinating. But to your point, I mean, frequency is all around us. And I also thought it was really interesting how he described that certain elements,

you know, existed in the same key of E. And you look at music and you look at, you know, I mean, we even describe music in terms of like there's a vibe, you know, and we say a lot of things just in our everyday life that we don't really realize, I think, what we're saying. I mean, we talk a lot about the fact that all human beings are made up of energy. I don't think we understand exactly what that means, but we know sometimes when you're around certain people, you know, they give bad vibes. And coming back to music, I play piano and, you know,

you can take one song that's written in all major chords, and you can switch it into minor chords, and it literally will, like, people will describe it that it sounds sad. I mean, think about that. The concept that something could sound an emotion, you know? I mean, I think it just shows how heavily we really are tied into frequencies, which, you know, that's going to go into music. That's going to go into, you know, wavelengths, color ties into that. And different colors make you feel different ways. I mean, you know, we think like gray is kind of gloomy and yellow is bright and happy. I mean, it's all correlated. And I think you're right that he's not a stupid guy for sure, 100%. You know, he may be a little crazy. And he's definitely having like really deep esoteric conversations that you probably would not want to have. like I'll seven of a grocery store with him. Yeah.

But he's super interesting. And I do think, I mean, he's probably not right about everything, but who is? But he's at least asking the right questions, I think. And I really wish that, you know, some other people in the more, you know, well-established scientific field would have these conversations with them. If they think he's full of it, okay. But like, have the conversation. And, you know, you were saying earlier about having people on the podcast that tell you,

what, you can't challenge me. Yeah. Like, I have no respect for people like that. I mean, the easiest way for me to lose respect for you is if you come at me with a bunch of information and I try to rebut and you say, I'm not even going to have this conversation with you. Like, okay, clearly, you have no, you have nothing. You're, you know, you're basing all of this on, you know. Well, that's like them slapping a misinformation label right over your face and saying misinformation, misinformation, don't get to hear it.

Sorry. Public consensus says you're wrong and I'm right. So don't even get to talk about it. Yeah, I mean, when people say, like, they won't debate RFK Jr. for instance, because, you know, essentially they're not going to platform him. They're not going to get on his level. It's like, I'm too far above you to even have the conversation. I'm sorry. That's never the case.

Yeah, no, I get it. We got time for a couple more clips on this. And listen, there are more things. He talked about Albert Einstein and Isaac Newton were wrong. He talked about creating a new propulsion system. and then vaccine side effects. So listen, his propulsion system thing is very interesting. And I would love to actually play this clip.

But I think that the last two clips will play here just in just a minute. I think we got to talk about Albert Einstein and Isaac Newton, especially what we're talking about, especially how we're kind of breaking this down. Now listen, Terence Howard's propulsion system makes sense 100%. You guys can go and find that clip. or go and just watch the entire interview, listen to what he's talking about on the propulsion system

as far as he talks about airplanes go forwards, backwards, some planes, up and down. And he just kind of showed a model of how a propulsion system or at the very least a craft could go in all directions forcibly just based on how it's designed. Now that's all very possible, right? And he's not even 100% wrong about that. but I want to start this out with Albert Einstein and Isaac Newton were wrong.

We'll play this. We'll break it down. Here you go. But the next electric wave is coming, so it gets pushed out. And as it's pushed out, it gets to the vortices. And that's some on those pieces, those vortices. Now instead of it spinning northeasterly, centripetally, it's forced to spin centrifugally. And it's been southwesternly. and it expands itself out. It decays. It keeps decaying until you get four magnetic waves that hit each other at 120-degree angles. At that point, they reconvert back into the electric field.

And then they make their way back to their source again, whether it's the star, whatever star it came into. What happens when we get older? We expand at our equator, right? we get shorter at the top. Why? Because the electric force is pushing in and condensing, and the magnetism expands out at the equator. The electron field, the electrons,

that's just discharged electricity, devitalized electricity, coming from the sun, coming from the Earth. It's the waste product from it. But it hits our magnetic field, and then it gets pulled right back, in and gets compressed again, and now it becomes electricity for the earth, and then it pushes itself right back out again at the equator. The equator is five miles wider than the poles.

Electricity, Einstein left that out of his equation because he coupled electricity and magnetism together and didn't realize that electricity was the equal and opposite of magnetism. electricity being the the contractive field. You breathe in that's a contractive thing. You breathe out that's a magnetic thing, a radiative thing. But they use the

term magnet as an tractor, but to magnify something means to what? Make it larger. Increase the space. That's the work of radiation. That's what Walter Russell was talking about all those years. That's the work of radiation. It's the

electricity between the thing that pull them together. The Kulam force that supposedly opposites attract and push each other away. If that was true, then hot air and cold air would seek each other out. They're the same substance, but in a different state. One is they move in opposite directions from each other. Hot water and cold water move in opposite directions from each other. The reason two magnets seem like the north pole is attracted to the south pole because if you had two rivers or two holes, two hoses with water coming out of them, and you pointed them at each other, what are they going to do? They're going to be pushing against each other. But they align to where the male enters the female and is able to come out. So they've been fooled by their senses. They've been fooled by their eyes and have missed the whole picture of it. Are you familiar with Khalil Gibran?

Yes. He wrote a book. He wrote the prophet, you know, in 19. But he wrote another book called Sand and Thome. In that book, he told a story of a man who had been away from his family for four months working, and he was excited to come home. And as he was coming home, he knew that the mountain, when he saw the mountain, that he was close to home. So his five senses started having a conversation. And his eyes says, I see a mountain.

I see a mountain. I see a mountain. And so the ears perked out and said, I don't hear a mountain. The nose sniffed and said, I don't smell a mountain. The tongue tasted the air. I don't taste a mountain. And the other four senses started speaking among themselves, and they came to the conclusion that there must be something to matter with the eye

because they couldn't perceive it. But all of these things, we've been misled just because, we've been fooled by our senses. Our eye see 0.05% of the entire electromagnetic wave. We're blind cosmically, but we judge everything by what we see. Oh, my God. Such an amazing point here, by the way. And as we're talking here, Sam, I got to say we actually just had a comment on our

telegram. Did you see that? They're literally talking about the Rogan Howard interview, which we might get to that in a second, but our eyes are blinding us to what is the reality, right? Like, what is reality, electromagnetism, frequency, all of that? We know we can't see those things, right? I mean, we've said this on the podcast many times. We can't see things that actually make up most of life and most of how the world in reality and consciousness and all these things work, although a lot of our science has come from what our eye can see, physically see. And, you know,

even if you think about science in a way of someone looking in a microscope and looking at the, you know, whether it be parasites or viruses or whatever the case may be, science is largely based on physical things we can see and then everything else's theory. Everything else's theories that we can come up with to try to explain things we don't understand. Although there is always, obviously, if you have things that you cannot see, then you are just as smart as the next person to try to explain something that you can't understand. I mean, it even goes back to, although I'm sure there are people that can explain this. I mean, but this is going back to frequencies.

And it's somewhat easy to explain, but I'm sure there's some people out there. They'll try to explain this in very great detail how we have Wi-Fi Internet, but you can't see it. We know it's coming to our computer, but you can't see it. But do you understand the amount of information that is being sent to our computers through a signal and airwave? Think about talking on the telephone. Think about getting a video phone call on a device that's not connected on a wire. It's literally coming through the air, which, by the way, I don't know if most people realize,

but the amount of cancer we have now outside of the obvious, which has been happening in the past three years. But I'm saying even before them, we started having a lot of cancer occurrences. And especially when we started getting wireless technology. And why is that? Because of radiation, because of electromagnetism, which is what they are using to send signals through air to devices, through physical devices. And so if you guys want to think about it this way, our cell phone is our body. The information coming into and what lives in our cell phone is our soul. It is the information that is stored, the energy.

the whatever it is that's coming through and going in. That's kind of the way, I mean, it's like a weird way to explain it. But it is a physical. This is just a device. We are a device for our energy. That's actually a great example, Chad. Yeah. And so we're a device for energy.

And it's so weird because they want you to believe like, oh, no, you're just a body. You're going to die one day. Everybody's dying. Everybody's going to die and you're dead. Nothing happens. Although, you know, when a cell phone dies, that doesn't mean the energy. ceases to exist or whatever the case is. All I'm saying is to this point, the eye deceives us because we cannot comprehend outside

of what we see. And so everything outside of that is theory. And so are certain theory is correct? Maybe. But it's, you know, looking at Albert Einstein or talking to someone else, I don't know. I mean, my theory could be more right than Einstein's or your theory could be more right than mine or Einstein's or whoever's. But how do you feel about this as far as just the, like, how do you feel like how much

that we don't know because of what we perceive and what we can comprehend? Well, to your point about Einstein, I mean, there are so many principles and theories that are accepted, you know, widely and again built upon in science that if you think about it or based on one person's findings, you know, in history. and like maybe they were exactly right. You know, hopefully they were in some cases that we're building everything on. But, you know, why was that?

I mean, and you also have to go back and look at like, you know, Plato, for instance. There's been a lot of people throughout history that we now have come to accept their ideas. And at the time, they were persecuted for it. So it's like, when does society make that decision of like, okay, now we feel like we have enough evidence that we can elevate, you know, this thought.

And I was also thinking while you're talking about cancer, for instance, it's interesting that also we use radiation to treat cancer. And to your idea about the cell phone and your example on that, you know, even when your cell phone dies, all of your information is now stored in the cloud. I think that's an interesting name and concept that they chose for that. So everything feels so parallel in life, I mean, even when you break it down to electronic, I mean, the fact that you and I are recording a podcast, you know, roughly three hours apart or

whatever. And to your point, you can't see the cellular data. You can't see the Wi-Fi. but we know it's there. And, you know, at this point, it's a huge part. I mean, it's probably 80% of my everyday life in some regard. Yeah, I agree. And listen, I mean, I'm sure that people are going to be like,

oh, my God, the Albert Einstein and Newton and those theories. I'm just trying to break this down in like a weird basic level. Honestly, that clip is one that you could go for days on and you could break it down a million different ways. but nonetheless, I just think everything we don't understand doesn't mean that it don't exist. And it doesn't mean that it's not possible. And I think that's something that we have been taught. It's like if you can't see it, it doesn't exist, obviously.

And, you know, especially for people that have believed in God or that believe in God or believe in Jesus or whatever. Because you can't see it, I've never seen God. I've never met him. So obviously, I don't care. He doesn't matter to me. Or, I mean, there are people that. right that's their biggest argument but we don't like most people don't understand we don't see most of reality i mean we see like a very small fraction of reality i mean and that is so true and so it's

like we don't understand anything and by the way i'm not i'm not telling you guys that like because of that we 100% know this and this and this i'm just saying that you've got to be more open to your understanding of what is actually possible um out there and so yeah we're When we come in this, by the way, when he came in this episode, me and Sam talked before and we're like, holy shit, I don't know how we're going to break this down because this is pretty out there. But hopefully we're doing a good job, guys. Hopefully we're doing as good a job as we can just to kind of give our thoughts on this. I'm sure people will let us know. Oh, yeah, for sure.

Yeah, there's going to be. And listen, you know, it's like I say. I mean, people will say that Terrence Howard's crazy as shit. I mean, I've seen more comments and more consensus on social media that Terrence Howard's crazy. and this dude has lost his mind. This guy has drank too many damn what they say. I saw a comment that says he drank too many psychedelic infused beer. I don't even know what it was.

But just people want to discredit people they don't understand. And I'm not always saying, but we've had people on, I mean, trust me, the amount of people that we get, we have mostly love. But, you know, if you go to some more comments or you, you know, sometimes I told Sam this, I say you wake up in the morning, you'll see a comment of someone like, oh, my God, you guys are so stupid or you guys are idiots, man, we hate you this and this and this and this. And it's like every day we have to just put in our minds. Like, we got to keep going because it doesn't matter what the few people say. I think that we are on a mission to try to just at least give our opinions. I mean, we're just trying to think outside the box, guys. That's all we're doing. We're trying to get past

the mainstream mindset. And not everyone understands that. I often, you know, know I often wonder I'm like man do we go too far on one side or too far on the other we're just trying to give opinions the best we possibly can we're not geniuses we don't claim to be and I don't even think that Terrence Howard is claiming to be a genius even though he's probably smarter than I am for sure but I mean people I'm just saying the consensus on Terrence Howard there's there's some people say oh he's a genius and then a lot of people are like this dude's crazy as hell I mean there's been I mean he's there's been me There's been memes made about him.

He seems to be working off of theories that there is like a very large swath of people that agree with. I mean, a lot of the things that he's working off of like the concept of the ether, for instance. I mean, that's not new. And there seems to be a large amount of people that really understand to a much greater level than I do what he's referring to. So I don't think, I mean, this is not all just novel concepts that he's just come up with that we're all being introduced to for the first time on Joe Rogan. I mean, no, that's not to say. There are clearly people who have very idiotic ideas. And in this day and age, everybody gets a platform because of social media.

But like, cool, I like that. Let's take everybody's ideas and let's parse them out and figure out what's real, what's not, what we should be asking more questions about. But, like, I just always go back to the fact that we should be allowed to ask questions and we should all be asking questions. I'm incredibly curious. You cannot just give me a piece of information and say, this is this. I need to know why and I need to know how.

And I think that all of the people in the world who are asking those questions and the people who are sitting down together like Joe Rogan with many of his guests, having those conversations for the world to hear and to analyze and to have these conversations like we're having right now. And like I'm sure this podcast is going to prompt a whole other group of people who didn't hear Rogan's podcast to start talking about this. I mean, that's what's going to make the world better. That's what's going to help us kind of figure out our main question, which is like, why are we here? What are we and where do we go when we die? Yeah. And the thing is, is like there's so many people that like, like I go back again to people that talk shit about things we say on this podcast. And it's like, guys, we're not geniuses. We don't, we're not trying to tell you exactly what is true or fact. We're just trying to give you our opinions. And you guys need to evaluate those opinions with your own research. And, and I think that if you can just get someone to think and hopefully even the haters, even the people out there to hate us, hopefully we let. them, you know, or at least open their minds up to thought. And, and, and, and there's been so many

episodes where we've talked about some of our thoughts and theories and beliefs or, um, or, you know, and by the way, I don't, I don't ever think that any of our beliefs or theories or thoughts are concrete. Because I don't think that's possible. I don't think, I don't think anything in life is concrete. Uh, you know, that goes back to the linear versus nonlinear reality. And there was someone in telegram to just mention that. Uh, and, you know, although I'm definitely not prepared to go through that whole theory, but why is life not linear? Life is not linear. It doesn't always make sense and expecting a logical progression is crazy. You know, especially in the world we live in today. We don't have a set of directions or some kind of weird secret map that tells us what to do and where to go

and our paths are winding and they're filled with forks and things that could happen versus would have happened, should have happened, could have happened. And, you know, even time. I mean, time is the feeling that we experience when we see some kind of change, the movement of a state change or a linear time is like an arrow launched from the past, crossing the present and heading into the future. Meanwhile, circular time can be likened to the circular will movement or rhythmic pendulum of oscillation. I mean, there's so many things that, you know, what is linear, is life and reality linear? Are we going frontwards to backwards or is it, definitely completely different than we even thought or just our brains can comprehend.

We don't know. There's so many things about life we don't understand and don't know. All I'm saying is at the very least, I hope this podcast at least makes you think, makes you start thinking deeper because I think that the problem is that people get in this mindset, this very, very constructed mindset to where you don't want to think outside the box. Sometimes it's depressing. Sometimes it's confusing. Sometimes it causes anxiety.

Sometimes it causes all this stuff. But I also think that if we're going to progress as a civilization, it takes us. It doesn't take the elites or the government officials or whoever it is that's trying to decide where we go as a civilization. Those are not the people. We already know we cannot trust those people. We cannot trust the elites. We cannot trust the government officials. It is up to us to figure out our path forward.

It's up to us to discover new things. All of you out there listening right now can be the next Albert Einstein. You can all be the next Newton or whoever you want to be. And fortunately right now, there are ways that you can do that. And part of that way is just listen to other opinions, listen to all opinions and evaluate yourself. And there's been so many people. And Sam can tell you this, especially in our telegram group.

There's so many people, as much as we research and study and think about, this. We've done this for years and years. Now, there's so many people that on our telegram is like, there's people that say shit, I'm like, I have no idea what they're saying. Until I research it, I'm like, oh, shit, I had no idea anything about this. Yeah. And on that note, I'll say this if I can, Chad, that like you mentioned, I am adminning the telegram group. So I'm in there pretty much all day. I try to read everything that goes in. Sometimes I can't in real time. But I've also had a lot of people that have reached out to me too. and there are people in that group that, I mean, the amount of knowledge that they have on particular subjects is just overwhelming, but super interesting.

But like one thing I want to tell you guys is that this is the third podcast I've done with you. And I can just tell people out there listening. It is not easy to get on a podcast that you know that potentially millions of people are going to listen to and just speak your mind. And what a lot of people probably don't realize is that you and Sherry don't really edit your podcast. You just kind of like one take and you put them out. And guys, it's hard to do that. And the fact that you guys have been doing this for years and you get on here and you talk about these things that you know a lot of people have very strong opinions about. We appreciate it.

And I know I'm speaking for a lot of people that I'm reading your Facebook comments, your telegram comments. People truly do appreciate it. So thank you. Yeah. Thank you. I mean, it's always good to hear like good comments because like I said, some mornings you wake up and you're like, yeah, we're like, hey, you. The bad ones hit the hardest, but you can't listen to them. you guys are doing a great job.

We definitely appreciate it. And by the way, we appreciate you. And for those that don't know, Sam's going to be working with us very soon. She's basically already kind of working for us now. But yeah, Sam's a great addition. Last clip, got to play this because Terrence Howard talks about vaccine side effects. Definitely going to talk about this. I got to hear what, and by the way, this is the only part that somehow I missed on the Joe Rogan podcast.

And when I saw the clip, I was like, I didn't miss like I think about. 20, I don't know, like 20 minutes of the episode. I don't remember why, but I missed this. And then I saw this clip and I was like, I could watch this, but I would rather just listen to what he says and then give you my thoughts and opinions on this as it comes. Because we were, you know, if you go back on Spotify or whatever, especially during COVID, we were the number one podcast that talked about the conspiracy, the pandemic, all of this stuff. We were the number one. And so I'm very interested to see what Terrence Howard has to say on this. Because Terrence explains vaccine side effects at the molecule level.

Here you go. It's the fucking government, man. I think it's not. I think it is sometimes. I assume they listen to everything I say. They do. I'm sure. They do.

It's a lot of boring. You took a bold stand, though, years ago when the governments were trying to poison their citizens. You took a very bold stand that nobody else took. That's what I was like, wow, I appreciate you because I lost three, four jobs because I refused to take it. I refuse to. I bet you feel better about it now. Especially when you know all these people that have health problems because of it. Cancer's increased 300%.

All cause mortality, up 40% in some age groups. Pulmonary embolisms almost up like 500%. Yeah. What caused that? Crazy. spike proteins that's being built and collected within the system. We can go into, I have a, I can walk you through what the spike protein did to the BRCA1 gene. That's the gene inside of our DNA that tells us that there's a damage.

There's damage that's happening almost like the crews that go along the highway and they immediately put up cones every time there's a problem. Well, the spike protein, which has never, no protein has ever been able to enter into the nucleus of a cell. Not only does it go to the ribosone to say, hey, you know what? I don't want you to produce whatever protein, like if it was a skin cell, you're not going to produce keratin anymore. You're just going to produce these spike proteins. That spike protein went into the DNA and it tells the BRCA1 gene turn off. And that's the gene that says, hey, there's a mutation here. Let's scrap that thing.

And so now the cancers are building up. The spike proteins weren't shading from the body. They collected in the ovaries. They collected in the lymph nodes. They collected in the bone marrow. So now we have all of these diseases that's showing themselves because the body is overwhelmed trying to deal with the spike protein that's attaching itself to the ACE2 and the endothelia cells in our vascular system for everybody out there.

And the more boosters you get, boom, you're turning your system off. You're turning it off. Your bodies cannot defend itself. And it's just collecting. It's just collecting. But I think it's an agenda to it. You think so. I think it's an agenda attached to it because they restricted any natural thing like

Ivermectin. Iva means like was it caused. Ivermectin. Mectin, the Latin of it, it was worms and it was anti-worms. And what the Ivermectin did, it causes the worms to have paralysis or parasites to have paralysis because it stops their information from passing. There's these things called the nodes of RONVA between each neuron. There's an axi and there's the axiom.

Oh my God, I just forgot the leg that comes to. off of dendrites. Those dendrites and the axiens have these things called nodes of RANVA, where they're not allowed to touch each other, and it transfers potassium and chlorine back and forth to each other, potassium, chlorine, chloride, and hydrogen back and forth. Well, in the worm, the ivermectin stops that to where the worms become paralyzed. So it was an immediate defense against the pathogen, but they immediately shut that down. And when the, allow anybody to use it. They showed that it stops viral replication. Completely. In vitro. Yeah. They know that they don't, they know that there's a mechanism

involved and they try to pretend. And then they also try to pretend it's dangerous, which is insane. And they even got Rolling Stone magazine on board with it where they printed an article where they were showing these people that were waiting in line for gunshot victims because so many people were overdosing on horse dewormer. Yeah, well, that was propaganda. It was a full-on lie. Not only that, they were so stupid and clumsy about it that the image that they used, this is Oklahoma. The image that they used was like in the summer in Oklahoma, and yet everybody's dressed in winter coats. It was retarded.

The whole thing was so stupid, but so obviously coordinated. It was confusing to me how many people were willing to go along with it and how many people were angry at people who didn't go along with it regardless of what they were saying. Even if what they were saying was reasonable, even of what they're saying, especially if you're talking about like Jay Batachara and, you know, these people that were professors at esteemed universities. And they were being silenced and there was a coordinated effort to remove their posts from Twitter. This is wild shit. Yeah. Unprecedented wild shit. And the population was just going along with it.

For me, what was fascinating was psychologically. Like, do you guys not know about deception? Do you not know about profit motive? Do you not know about the history of pharmaceutical drug companies in this country and what they've been able to get away with, with how many people they've paid? The Tuskegee experiment. Oh, my God. I couldn't understand how black people or people of color were running and trusting the government after what happened to them with the Tuskegee experiment.

And for people that don't know what the Tuskegee experiment was, in the early 1920s, a group of government officials came. down doctors and they went through the black community and they said there's a sickness in all of you guys and we're going to cure it free of charge and they injected the black population with syphilis and left it untreated for 60 years and just watched how it ravaged the body. For 60 years it wasn't stopped until like 1970s, late 70s that they stopped the experiment and I don't even know if they've paid reparations. So the government has been using all of these chemical warfare or biological warfare against its own citizens for a long time. There's so many instances of it.

So that's why I didn't do it. There's so many instances of it. So there you go. That's Terrence Howard talking about the, well, towards the end of that, the Tuskeeschi. Tuskegee experiment. And listen, yes, I mean, they injected syphilis into the black community and let it ravaged a black community for 60 years. But guys, listen, this, this, you know, he's right.

He talks about the black community. Why did they just go on board or get on board with this experiment, which was the experimental COVID vaccine? And I'll tell you why it was political party. That's why they knew the political party, the Democrats, they knew that they had that community in their pocket. And they knew that, you know, number one, they, I guess this community trusted them in some ways at the time. Not all of them, not all, but a lot of them. And they got on board with this.

And it wasn't just them. There were people that were forcing this. And there were also a lot of white liberals that were pro-vaks. They would have signs on CNN and protest and talking about if you weren't vaccinated, you were killing us. You're killing us because of your selfishness. And this is our government. And you think that our government has changed? Do you think that they have gotten better since the Tuskegee experiment?

No. They've gotten worse. They've gotten more dangerous. I mean, I hate to say it, but that's just the truth. And so what Terrence said here is that, you know, he didn't take the vaccination. And when he talks about how it damaged our DNA, let me tell you who originally came out and said that the vaccine was going to cause damage to our DNA. It was going to cause exact damage to our DNA. It was Dr. Robert Malone.

and what did they do to what did they do to dr robert malone sam they freaking ostracized him they said he was crazy they said he was a conspiracy theorist but yet he was literally one of the inventors of the mrna technology and he says if you use this technology to inject a spike protein into the body you are going to be injecting not only a protein into your cells which is the DNA but you're injecting a volatile protein into cells. I mean, not just a regular protein of some sort. You're literally injecting a spike protein of a man-created virus into your cells. And Robert Malone was desperately trying to sound the alarm of COVID in the very

beginning. And they canceled him. They ostracized him. They said he was crazy. He was a lunatic. Then Peter McCollah came on board, started talking. about very similar things, but Peter McCullough stance more so was, hey, guys, this is what you guys got to do to try to combat this.

Instead of going and getting put on a ventilator and taking all of this experimental medicine or vaccines, this is what you can do to prevent yourself from getting COVID or dying from COVID. I had a friend that died of COVID. And he was a young, healthy guy, younger than I was, actually. well, I think he was two years younger than I am. And he had already had COVID once. He got COVID again.

And, you know, I guess he had got a little, I guess he, from what I understand from family, he had got a, I guess a decently detrimental lung infection. I guess I can say like a bronchitis because of this second COVID infection. And so he had went to the hospital. he wasn't dying at the time. But what did they do this time? They put him on a ventilator. And what happened to him?

He died. He died. He's so sad. Such a big problem at the time too. It was. And so you have this experimental vaccine that is injecting spike proteins into DNA because that's essentially what it's doing. And protein and DNA in general is not good,

but especially a volatile protein. And you had people dying. And you still do. And it's about to, I mean, It's been exploding. We just had a PGA golfer today, 30 years old that died. He withdrew from the tournament. I think it was a couple days ago.

Said he was feeling sick, or I guess it was yesterday maybe. I think he died today. We don't right now know why. And so I'm not blaming it on the vaccine, but at the very least, we know that there has been young athletes all around the world dropping dead. I mean, it's not just young athletes, not just from cardiovascular. We are seeing an explosion in cancer rates.

We are seeing an explosion in turbo cancers. There was a band director here in South Carolina that just lost his life to colorectar cancer. And he died within a month and a half of getting it. These cancers are killing these shit out of people right now and is sickening to me. it is sickening to me. And so when you hear someone like Terrence Howard, he's saying this, Joe Ruggins talking about it.

And so is maybe the reason why people are calling him crazy is either because they don't understand him, but also he even talked about the vaccine. Because by the way, Terrence, you did not take the vaccine. You said you lost three jobs. Guess what?

You ain't ever working in Hollywood again now. Not after this podcast, you ain't. That's an untouchable subject for sure, for anybody. Yeah. what is your thought sam i mean do you do you see the covid pandemic the vaccine do you see as screwed up as i do yeah i mean pardon my french but like this shit infuriates me and and also to your point i haven't heard about this bj golfer but you know you saying like i'm not blaming it on the vaccine

like of course not we don't know what happened but the thing is whatever we find out among the myriad of questions that we should be asking about it one of them should be was he vaccinated? Could that be related? But those are the questions you can't ask. Joe Rogan made a great point at some time months and months ago, because, I mean, he's talked about the vaccine ad nauseum. And he was saying that, you know,

anytime this happens and anyone asked, you know, could it have been related to the vaccine, they will come up with absolutely anything else other than that. And it's like, well, why couldn't it possibly also be that? I mean, why are we, it's like, you can't even ask that question. we'll concoct a myriad of other ridiculous conclusions, but that's not even on the table. We're not even going to talk about that.

It's not possible. And then you look at, you know, AstraZeneca just pulled their vaccine. And incidentally, about three weeks before they pulled it, they finally had to come out and admit to severe side effects, in particular stroke. And this was not a tiny percentage. They had to make it public that they now are realizing that there's a huge correlation. Well, then when they pull the vaccine off the market,

They were like, oh, well, there's just an oversupply. It's not needed anymore, you know, which is probably true because people are finally catching on and not taking it. But, like, we know that's not why you pulled it. You pulled it because if you're finally having to admit what's actually going on. And we are just, we are at the precipice of this. I mean, I would not have taken this anyway. But even if I were up to date on all my vaccinations, which I'm not, nor will I ever be. I would have questioned this one regardless because there just was not enough data over a long period.

of time. And we're about to get that data because essentially we've, not we, but a majority of the public has been the experiment. The clinical trial has been the entire world at this point. So the 10-year data that we did not have going into this, we're going to have it in roughly seven years from now. For sure. Well, we're not because we're never going to have it. We'll probably never. We'll witness it around us at least. Yeah. I mean, and the reality, yeah, I mean, the reality of that is, is that how Pfizer, if you want to know, like, how dangerous the vaccines are, Pfizer went to the federal courts and tried to get this postponed for 70 years, I think it was. And I think they actually succeeded, if I'm not mistaken.

I think a judge did come back and say, you have to release so many documents over a certain amount of time. So who knows? Will those documents be fluffed documents? We don't know. but, you know, I go back to a good friend of ours, Nathan Jones from Clear. The only reason I mention him because he did shout us out recently. And I told him, I was like, look, man, if you don't shout us out, whatever you're going, I'm not shouting you out. But no, Nathan has become a good friend.

And we've covered Clear in their entire situation with the FTC, which is a federal trade commission. They are being sued by the Federal Trade Commission because their nasal spray, it was shown to, potentially, allegedly killed COVID. And I say allegedly, even though the actual studies showed it, but they got sued. I mean, they got sued. Sherry had COVID seven times. She did not do one. And by the way, Sherry had the vaccine. She had the vaccine and she never got COVID until she got the vaccine. Once she got the vaccine, COVID, COVID, COVID, sick all the time. She still, actually, the reason why she's not doing an episode or now, sick again. And, and I'm worried, I'm worried about Sherry. I worry about her all the time. because of that. I mean, that is my number one fear in life. Obviously, because I love her.

She's my wife. She's the best thing that's ever happened to me. Um, so obviously that's why I worry about her. Um, but I guess the reality is like the government made a concerted effort to kill anything that potentially could help people. And that was that, that's just a fact. I mean, I don't, I don't know how else to say that. Everything that helped people. Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine that showed studies around the world. Ivermectin literally being the safest drug ever administered in history with the least amount of side effects, they did a smear campaign on it. And if you're the government and you really care for your people, if you really care for your people, why are you going to ever discourage the use of something that might save their life?

like answer me that question, guys. Why would you do that? I mean, and there's no good answer. There's literally no good answer. And even to Nathan Jones's point, his freaking product is not harmful whatsoever. It is 100% natural. It has been studied. Nathan himself has put millions of dollars in the product.

I'm not sponsored by them or anything. He's a friend of mine. But the reality is that they got sued. they're still dealing with that. I mean, they're still dealing with the lawsuit. And Nathan is on a journey right now to try to, to try to fight it mainstream, you know, even though mainstream don't want to talk to him. That's why he's going everywhere he possibly can to try to get the message out that,

hey, we're being sued because potentially our product could have saved hundreds, hundreds of thousands of lives. And me personally using it, I believe, the same. But we're in a, we're in a very weird and scary time to be alive, guys. And the unfortunate thing is I think that so many people always believe that our government was here to help us. We elected people to have our best interest at heart, even though we know that that's not the truth. That's not the case. It is a system that is in place to benefit only themselves and their bureaucrats, not the people.

And, you know, as we go into this Memorial Day, I will say this. I say happy Memorial Day. and I say, you know, hope you guys have a great Memorial Day while we all are probably going to be doing something with our families. I just want you guys to understand and remember, though, the reason we have a Memorial Day is because of the soldiers that we have lost in war. And you have to think about why those soldiers were even in that war to begin with. And that does, and I want to keep this in my, I want to make sure that everyone understands us when I say that. that's not to discredit anything they did, because the same way I say that my entire life, being a patriotic American, loving my country, because we believed in our country.

And I want to so much get back to the patriotism that we had in this country at one point in time. But even back when I had that patriotism, I don't think anyone knew how corrupt our government was. I don't think anyone knew why we were fighting the wars. think there were a lot of things that were put in our face through mainstream media that were made us that led us to believe that these wars were fought because of this and this and this and this. And so therefore they made you believe that, hey, we're fighting these wars for freedom. And that's why that all of these soldiers signed up to go in the military and fight for their country, which is very commendable and very brave.

How many people are going to do that? How many people are going to sign it voluntarily to get paid not very much? to go and go through hell and training and go and fight for their country. But if you really realized how much corruption and bullshit is behind a lot of the soldiers that we have lost and the entire reason why we have Memorial Day, it pisses me to freak off. And I hope that the veterans out there are not mad by me saying that. You should be on board with me saying that I'm telling you that if you're listening to this podcast and you're a veteran, I hope that you look back and see that if you were involved in a war or the wars that we've been in all over the world,

and we're still in wars that most people don't even know about. We've lost very good people that were just doing the right thing. They believe they were doing the right thing by fighting for their country. And nowadays, when we really need those people to fight for our country, we really need those patriots. And thank God, they're still patriots out there are signing up. But man, there's a lot of people that are not. A lot of people that would have done it back then or realizing the same shit I'm telling you right now.

And a lot of those people are not signing up for the military anymore because they don't believe in the bullshit that is that that that that that we've been led to. And so this Memorial Day, guys, I just want you to when you're when you're grilling burgers or dogs or hanging out with your family, I just want you to understand. understand that there's a lot of people that died under the American flag fighting for the country. They were fighting for you. Yes, there's no question about that. But the underlying thing is, why were they fighting and what bullshit and corruption was behind it that they did not even know?

And their lives were killed in vain because of the assholes that are over this world or over this country. And that's what pisses me off the most. and I just hope that people not only 100% honor those lives exponentially during this Memorial Day, I hope you just understand that it pisses me off to understand probably there's a lot of those lives that could have never been lost because of bureaucracy and money. Yeah, you're exactly right. And I mean, I understand the sentiment and I think most of your audience is going to understand it as well. The unfortunate part is it does take a lot of propaganda to be able to convince someone to

sign up for a job where they know they could potentially lose their life. But to your point, you know, I have a lot of family that was in the military. So I have absolutely nothing but high regard and respect for them. But, you know, when you're talking about what they're fighting for, I mean, to your point, they are fighting for this country. They're fighting for the idea of America, but they're also fighting for the people. They're fighting for us. And it's so hard now. I mean, you don't have a lot of support for the military, which is really sad. But, you know, I can understand where people are coming from. We're all so frustrated. The government is constantly lying to us. You know, you're not allowed to ask questions. And shout out to Nathan for

fighting the FTC and for not just laying down and taking it because that would be a whole lot easier to do. Yeah. And shout out to you guys for doing this podcast. I mean, you know, there are people who have physically fought for this country in the military, but there's also a lot of people who are, I mean, putting their lives at times quite literally on the line for doing podcasts like this, but if nothing else, you know, putting their reputation on the line, putting their relationships with friends and family on the line to ask these questions and put this information out there. So, I mean, it's important. You know, we've all got to stand up for ourselves. If we don't, I mean, we're going to be taken down. And we've talked ad nauseum. You guys have on the podcast

episodes I've been on that there's just this insidious attempt to divide everybody. And the best way to do that is propaganda. And not always. allowing us to talk to one another, to get these questions out, to just discuss things. So I'm super excited to work with you guys. I mean, I just want to make a little bit of difference in the world. And I do think podcasts like this do that, people who are willing to, you know, like Nathan, put his livelihood on the line to fight against the system. I think this is what we've got to do.

Yeah, absolutely. And guys, you know, last thing I'll say, this Memorial Day, I pray for everybody. I just lost someone in the military. I know that's hard. I know it's tough. And we're going to definitely honor all of you, families, loved ones, everyone that loves someone that lost someone in line of duty, or not line of duty, but in combat or whatever, in military.

I will definitely be thinking about that. And guys, that's going to be it for this episode. Sam, thank you for coming on for sure. Guys, we got so many great episodes coming up. Make sure, like I said, we're going to have live stream videos on our X. We're going to also have them on Rumble. And by the way, Sam, the more I'm thinking about Rumble, the more I really want to try to kind of support Rumble and kind of what they're doing. We're doing it on X as well.

I mean, we're always going to be live streaming on X as well. But we, we for sure want to get as much of our audience to Rumble as we can. And so we get a lot of great content. we're planning a bunch of different documentaries right now. We're just pretty busy. Next couple days, we're going to take a little break. We will be back probably Tuesday, and we got so much great content coming from you guys. Sam, thank you so much for coming on.

And by the way, the name of this song we're going to close this with is Tainted by Red Revision. And by the way, Sam, I don't know how long you've been listening. Have you ever heard this song on our podcast before? Tainted by Red Revision? you probably don't know that song. I don't know if I have or not, but I'm going to hear it no. Yeah, you are. All right, guys, until next time, we love you.

Peace out. Have you more a day. Alone inside these empty broken walls. And I can't see that it's all because I know that you love me.