Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Joe Rogan RFK Jr Podcast Breakdown | Dr Peter Hotez Debate Conspiracy Podcasts

Episode Date: June 19, 2023

In a recent episode of the Joe Rogan podcast, Joe Rogan engaged in a thought-provoking discussion with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. concerning vaccines. However, the podcast has generated significant controversy, drawing criticism from individuals aligned with left-leaning ideologies and those associated with influential global elites. In this enlightening episode of the Joe Rogan RFK Jr Podcast Breakdown, we delve into the factual aspects versus misinformation presented during the conversation. Notably, Rogan and Kennedy have extended an invitation to Dr. Peter Hotez for a debate, further igniting the discourse. Join us as we explore these intriguing topics and more.

Hello, a minute ride made me lose my way. One minute I knew my life would change. And I was hoping that you could stay. The city lights all that remain. Oh, I hate saying goodbye. Hello and welcome to Investigator, Earth Podcast. I am your host, chat, alongside my wife, Sherry. Say hello, Sherry.

Well, hello, folks. Welcome to the podcast. we are so grateful you're here today. We are so grateful you guys are here today. It is June the 19th, 2023. That song at the intro was, I wait for you, Lupus Nocte and Zorro.

Now, for those of you don't know, we play them a lot on this podcast. We've done it for multiple years now. Zorro's the singer, Lupus Nocte is the producer. A really great combo. Both of them are awesome. So anyways, we listen to all kinds of music,

but most of the music that we play here, is copyright, not copyright-free, but we pay for rights and all that stuff. But these artists are really good because they're not mainstream artists. They're not someone you're necessarily ever going to probably hear on the radio, but it just shows you the talent out there that's just not mainstream. And there's so much stuff that's not mainstream because everything mainstream is paid by some elitist, some globalist type thing. I mean, record labels are like that, pharmaceuticals are like that,

military industrials like that, everything is like that. And unfortunately, the people that, that are not in that little realm of what seems to be Satanism nowadays, you know, you kind of lose out. Right. And we got to support these people that are not in that realm, but are terrific and so creative and just wonderful artists. Yeah, for sure. But guys, we have a really interesting topic to talk about this evening on, we're going to talk about Joe Rogan and RFK Jr. podcast episode and the Dr. Peter Hotez, the whole drama around that. We have so much to talk about because obviously we have covered the COVID debate and the pandemic and the vaccine and we've covered all of that for since the beginning.

And in reality, we even, I guess somewhat talked about that right before the vaccine or no, sorry, the pandemic happened. So when we heard about this, we saw the interview, although, you know, RFK Jr., obviously, he is the nephew of President Kennedy. And so his family has been, I guess, at the brunt of the United States government, at least what he says, right, he believes that the CIA was 100% involved and coordinated and planned the assassination of his uncle. He also believes that his dad or his father's death was also the result of the CIA or government.

And really, you know, if you're RFK Jr, you should probably be watching your back because now he's running for president. I don't know 100% everything that he is running for or, you know, what is actual principles and stances. But he is running as a Democrat and, you know, much like his uncle and most of his family. And so the problem with, though, that's going to be with this whole presidential race with RFK Jr., anyone that, even anyone that has been a Democrat previously or even a liberal or just, you know, somewhere kind of in between, RFK Jr. may be one of those people that you would want to take a look at, right? And typically we see people that make sense potentially on both sides, never make it. They don't. There's so many we can talk about, like the Gabby girl or the, you know, there's so many of those governors in Montana or whatever. They were like Democrat, but mid.

Yeah, they're middle of the road. Middle of the road, but if they're not extreme, they don't want them. No, absolutely. Yeah, you either got to be extreme right, extreme left. And really, that's kind of the sad thing, and that's the way it is. Now, one of RFK Jr's big stances and big things he's been about are vaccines. He's talked about this. He's been very vocal about this over the years and especially since COVID.

RFK Jr. had a book or has a book out that's called The Real Falci. It was a absolute killer bestseller book, although did not receive very much support from any of the bestselling list for obvious reasons, because his book, from what some say, was at one time for many months, one of the best selling books on the planet. But yet he made zero of these lists, except for a few, because they censored the popularity of his message. They did not want people to believe, you know, the, I don't know if you want to call them sheep or the people that are just oblivious to the things that go on around them. You know, those people that are oblivious to the things that go on around them, unlike you guys. But those people, though, they do see lists. So they will see a New York Times bestselling list. They will see a Amazon bestseller list.

They will see these lists. So one of the ways that the globalists and this mainstream message of propaganda, one of the things that is very useful, useful actually, that they have to do their very best at doing is censor and silencing people that actually have a real message, a true message that potentially gets into the viewpoint of everyday oblivious citizens. And one of those big things, obviously it would be a best selling list, such as New York Times bestselling list, Amazon list. There's so many people that still read, especially the older generation, the older crowd. And those are the very very, people that the conglomerates, the globalist, they don't want people to see that a book like

the real faulty, RFK Jr., is like number one. So that's why they had to leave him off the list because they do not want people to read this book. He'd be like, holy shit, what have I been missing, right? And so they, you know, they, and by the way, Alex Jones, this was a very similar thing. Alex Jones had a book, you know, a little while back. It was at one point a best-selling book but he was also left off mini list because of a lot of what he said in the book was true information. It's the same thing, guys, is that if you write something that gains popularity, or you publish or push something, and it gets in some of those mainstream channels, you're going to get censored.

There's just no question about it. YouTube is very big on this. Google is big on this. Whatever Google shows you based on your search results now is based on what they, the globalist, the propaganda, the deep state, and the government want you to see. It is no longer technically a free internet, and we are seeing it every day be eroded by trying,

you know, they're doing everything they can to harness every possible aspect of the internet to where they will not allow you to see the truth, only what they want you to see. And that's why there are search engines like Mojik. And it used to be Duck, Duck, Duck, Go. And I was so excited when they first came about and we're like, wow, we can go to this new search engine. And so many people were so excited about it.

But actually, what they were doing was using Google's database, basically, on their search engine. Yeah, all they're really doing, I mean, Doug. Dockgo, they say that, like, your search history or what you search is private. And whereas that may be the case, right? So if the government or police or whoever said, hey, we need to see his search history, I guess what DuckDego is saying is, well, we don't have it because we don't store that information, you know, et cetera, et cetera, including their browser or whatever you want to do. But the reality is, is that all of their content, all of their search results are still curated from Google. Right.

So Google and their algorithm and what Google wants you to see is still going to be exactly what Duck. Go shows you because there is no other algorithm that Duck. has. Now, Duck, DeGoe, if they were smart enough, they could potentially start purging results from third, fourth, fifth, and six pages, right? Now, one of the things about Google, and we're getting into this, trust me, we're getting into the Joe Rogan RFK Jr. debate with Dr. Peter Hotez, because it's a very important debate, very important podcast. But one of the things that someone said the other day, and this is very true, is that if they don't even have to censor you, They don't have to technically take you off the internet because of something that you say they don't agree with.

All Google really has to do is put you on the third page, right? Or even really the second page. Right. How many times do you go to the second page of Google? Very little. Well, I do just because I know. Yeah, yeah. But most people that don't know, they're going to click, even the ones that are sponsored.

I'll never go to sponsored Google ones at the top. Sometimes I'm a marketing guy, but you got to go to sponsors. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I know they're sponsored and they're paying for that spot. So I always go below that. Yeah, yeah. Because I want the real, you know, authentic results. Yeah.

Well, and here's the thing. And I'll give you guys an example. And I know we're getting a little bit off topic, but we're really not because this is all what we're talking about as far as, you know, Spotify is allowing Joe Rogan and RofK and this conversation to happen. They're allowing this conversation we're right now having, which I'm very thankful for and grateful for Spotify for. still clinging to free speech, right? And I think Spotify is at least knowledgeable in the aspect of they're starting to see that people that cancel free speech get canceled. I mean, this is something or people that push agendas on the population.

You know, we're seeing this mass cancellation and this is great that's happening. But one of the things I did want to say is that I've seen firsthand as far as Google goes or search results go, you know, I'm a marketing guy, right? So I market for companies. I also market our other companies and the things we do, whether it be travel websites or whether it be including this podcast, right? So the way I market podcast articles, right, or articles based on whether it be on investigative podcast.com or whether it be on anything else we do or publish based on the things or topics we talk about here, I use all of the same parameters as I do in our travel and tourism website. website, all the search engine optimization, all the marketing. I use exactly the same thing.

And really, in many cases, what we talk about now, which is very, very relevant information, it's very cutting information. This is something I would be better at marketing to the front page of Google than I would even with travel and tourism in South Carolina. So what I'm saying is, is I would be better marketing what we're talking about right now than I would be talking about the best places in South Carolina. or the best restaurants or whatever the case may be. So on our travel stuff, we do amazing.

We kill it as far as search results. I mean, we are probably, we're done number two, at least we were last year. We haven't done a lot this year. But, you know, when all of your results, like if you look up something in South Carolina or whatever for certain things, especially a lot of anything we've talked about, we're like number one, two, three or four, right? I mean, our article is right there. These are very valuable articles for people that are wanting to come to South Carolina. They want to know what to do or where to go or whatever. We're like one, two, three or four.

Google even puts these massive like cards they call them, which is like it highlights our article. It even takes segments of our article and shows it like Wikipedia has even used our articles, right? I mean, as part of their, you know, thing. Especially my article. But now, I mean, I'm serious. But they do that. So we can do the same thing on topics that are controversial or things. that are anything we talk about here, and you will never find us.

Not on Google, nowhere. And so this is what I'm saying is they control the information. They 100% do. So when we sit here and what we're about to talk about this evening is very important. It is an important conversation to be had. And what Joe Rogan and RFK Jr. did on their podcast, as we have done many times on this podcast, right, is very important. But I think it's just so interesting kind of how this thing is all trickled down to Dr. Peter

Hotez. And we'll talk about who Dr. Peter Hotez is. But there's an article, and this is a good article. This is not no BS article. If you look this up on Google, you're going to find a bunch of BS. Let me tell you the real headline of what this whole thing is. Double-talking vaccine scientist refuses to debate. RFK Jr. despite

a $1.5 million charity pot. This is $1.5 million. Yeah, because it started at what? What was the original? I think it was, well, Joe Rogan originally offered $100,000, which we'll get into. And then other people offered, other people offered.

By the way, we'll offer $10,000. If this dude comes on, we will offer $10,000. We'll put it in a pot. If this actually happens, we'll make the official, someone share this, whoever needs to share it. we'll offer 10,000 on the pot if he actually goes on there and debates RFK Jr. or Joe Rogan. And this is pretty sad because we're talking about a scientist debating a politician.

And he's scared to debate a politician. Are you kidding me? Yeah, that's what that's kind of the, yeah, that's kind of the cream of the crop on this. So with Dr. Falci having basically exited stage left, the mainstream, I mean, and he has, Falsi is gone, man. It's like, where did Falsi go? No one hears. Yeah, but exactly he retired because he's not a moron.

He's got to get the hell out of the public eye. But the mainstream media has anointed a new Vax peddling talking head, which is Dr. Peter Hotes. Now, Dr. Peter Hotes has been doing this throughout the pandemic, but now this is kind of the figurehead going forward to kind of support and defend the vaccine community. This is the new guy, right? This is Dr. Peter Hotes. We've seen him on many, many news outlets. throughout the pandemic. And for those of you that do not know who he is,

just take your phone right now and type in Dr. Peter Hotez. You've probably seen this little goofy. Is it H-O-T-E-Z? Yeah, H-O-T-E-Z. Hotes. It just reminds me of, like, a sleazy hotel or something. Hotaz.

But anyways, last week, you know, Joe Rogan had Hotaz on, or not last week, but Dr. Hotez was on Joe Rogan's podcast. Sorry. At one point in time, A little while back, this was kind of during the pandemic. And he proceeded to basically badmouth anti-vax candidate Robert Kennedy Jr. Before telling Rogan that he'd be uncomfortable debating him.

Now, Joe Rogan's first challenged Peter Hottes to debate RFK Jr. on the science of this whole thing of vaccines in 2019, but he had declined. So let me play you just a very short clip of this. conversation between Hotaz and Joe Rogan. Here you go. Kennedy Jr. He's a big one. He's a big one.

And he seems like a very intelligent guy. How could he not be aware of the science behind this? What is he getting wrong? What he's getting wrong is just about everything. You know, he's formed an organization called Children's Health Defense. And he had a press conference about it, I think it was September, October of last year. It is probably one of the best organized anti-vaccine groups out there. Now, he's doing other things other than vaccines.

He's doing a lot of things about environmental health and things like that. I don't know any part of that business. I've only followed what he does with vaccines. But it's all nonsense. Why is he doing this about vaccines? I don't know. What's his motivation? I mean, you have to ask him.

What's his motivation? Would he be a guy that you would want to have a debate with or have a discussion with? But again, I mean, I'm uncomfortable with the idea of a debate because it's like debating, I don't It's like debating a Holocaust denier whether the Holocaust exists. I mean, not that this rise to the same level. I understand what you're saying, but if you're, again, I want to bring this up, if you're complaining there's 19 books ahead of yours that are anti-vaccine books, you've already lost the battle.

Like, it's time to regroup, and maybe regrouping would be confronting someone with actual scientific information. I mean, you are a real doctor. You're a guy who actually studies this, and you're a man who understands the science. You're a legitimate academic. You could actually put a dent in this with a real conversation. Potentially. Potentially. Yeah.

I mean, what would he be able to say? Like, what is his take on it? Well, remember, he's an attorney. And he's very clever, right? And he knows how to presumably, he knows how to do arguments in court. And what am I? I'm a scientist. Right.

But do you think that he wants to deceive people? Or do you think that maybe he's just incorrect in his accumulation of data? Yeah, I can't say what his motivation is. but his his information is is highly misleading. Okay, so that was in 2009. Okay. Now, the one thing Joe did very well. I mean, sorry, 2019.

2019. Okay. The one thing Joe Rogan does very well in his interviews, especially with people that are, you know, like Dr. Peter Hote has, is he pushes him, he pushes him, he pushes him, because you want a real answer. You want an actual answer instead of beating around the bush of like, why do you not want to debate him? Well, if he's if he's not a doctor and you're behind all the science and the facts and all this stuff, then why would you not just go up there and clean the floor with this guy? And he'd be like, facts, baby, mic drop. But it can't happen.

He knows it can't happen because what he actually knows, I believe, even this interview in 2019 was that RFK Jr. had more substantial evidence backed by him and his group than he or anyone that would. was in the pharmaceutical rep company or pharmaceutical companies ever had, right? This has been a big, big thing. Now, if we want to just briefly get on the topic of vaccines in general, which we're not going to talk in any absolutes because we don't know. But what I can tell you is what Joe Rogan just said about Dr. Hotez's book about whatever his book was about in 2019, you had 19 other books ahead of him on anti-vaccine messages, right? And this should tell you, though, and this is something I believe we've always

said that the truth will always, number one, come out. It will eventually come out. And the more information and more free-flowing of information that is readily available in today's technology age, the more educated and the smarter people are going to be, and the more people get smarter, right? Now, as we talked about earlier, there are obviously oblivious people that you want to try to hide that that group of people that are still oblivious. You want to try to still shelter those people from the truth. So you've got to do whatever you can, whether it be takeoff books that are number one bestsellers and all this stuff because it's truth. You want to shelter those people that you still have left.

This is kind of your still last clinging group of people that are still for you because they believe in science. They believe in government. They believe in all this stuff. We're going to follow the science. And we are very naive because we listen to the regular news. Yeah, they have to cling to those people, that group of people. That's the only thing they still have left. And so, you know, one of the questions often comes up is like, well, what do they do when they have nobody left?

What does these elites in this and whoever is over this? The pharmaceuticals, all these people, what do these people do when they, when the, when message is out there loud and clear across the board everyone finally understands that holy shit we are we have been lied to about everything pretty much we have been controlled we have been manipulated we have been executed in some ways um not even going to say how don't have to you guys understand what i'm saying but what happens then does it become another nazi germany because they are going to do any in everything to maintain and and and and and and and and gain or maintain power and control? Because I'm telling you right now, they will. There is no

question in my mind. It'll be another Germany if ever the people rises up against what is actually going on. Absolutely. But they have so many people that they have brainwashed. And that brainwashing is not going to go away overnight, even though they may hear things like this, right? And they might hear people that are on the opposite side of what they're used to hear. they're still going to believe in their main people, and they're not going to change tracks because, just because they're just not. Yeah, the way I kind of think of this, yeah, you're right.

You know, I'm just thinking about like our family, our older family members, even though they might hear things like, you know, Joe Rogan asking him to come out and blah, blah, blah, and talk about it and debate, it's still not going to change their opinions because their opinions are based on what first happened and what they first heard about the pandemic and the vaccines and everything else. And it's hard to make older people waiver from the original decisions they had.

No, I get what you're saying. I mean, I do. I mean, because there's going to be those people that are still going, like you said, they're still going to cling to whatever they believe. And even when they hear the truth, even when they know the facts. But that's also why, look, I think uninterrupted. Dr. Peter Hotez would be dumb enough to accept that offer and go on Joe Rogan's podcast and debate RFK Jr. Just being prideful and whatever he is because he is a very, he is a he is a puppet to the pharmaceutical companies.

He obviously is and we're going to prove that in just a minute because something changed with old Dr. Peter Hotez very soon in the pandemic and I'm going to play that in a minute. But either way, if it was just Dr. Peter Hotez, and that was the only people influencing him, he would be like, yeah, I'll go on there. But he can't. Number one, he can't because he has been persuaded, controlled, and locked up in chains, basically,

with what he believes, says, or thinks, based on pharmaceutical and government. And we're going to prove that in a minute. What I'm saying is, is that he would ordinarily have went on there and debated, even if he had an actual scientific opinion, but I don't think his opinion is, actually scientific. I think it is controlled opinion. So you think what his opinion is, is it's controlled by what other people want him to put out there in the media that maybe himself doesn't

believe what he's preaching. Absolutely. We're going to prove that in just a minute. But no, he doesn't believe in what he's preaching. He has no other choice, though. Because as we've seen, and by the way, guys, you should go listen to our Dr. Peter McCullough podcast. It's, I don't know, and he was probably one of the 19 books. They're probably one of the 19 books of Above this other Peter. Yeah. Yeah, we had Dr. Peter McCola and John Leak on. John Leak was the author.

They co-authored and, you know, and wrote the book, The Courage of Face COVID-19. Great book. I recommend it. But either way, you know, you have doctors like Dr. Peter McCola. You have doctors so many of them that were going against the propaganda, the mainstream narrative for the vaccine and how much money these people are making. You had all these people going against. this. And there was a lot. And there were so many of them. Some of them lost their medical

license. Some of them lost their jobs. Some of them were threatened with jail. I mean, they were the outcast. They were literally like Jews in Nazi Germany during this time. And there were so many people that were brave enough to stand up. Dr. McCullough is one of them. Pierre Corrie. There's so many doctors out there that did amazing service to the public by risking everything for the people and for the truth. That's why I respect so many of these people so much today. And, you know, but you know, this is, this is not the way Peter Hotes went. Okay.

He went the way of I either lose my shit, my license, my livelihood, my reputation, or I go along with what they say that I have to do. And he did that, right? And so now he's kind of backed in the corner. Now you have all these people that finally are waking up and they're seeing their truth. and there was a guy that just confronted him and actually this guy that confronted him outside of his apartment,

flat, whatever to have, wherever he lives. He was confronted by a guy that is on YouTube that usually confronts pedophiles. He sets up pedophiles and then he confronts him on video. Well, this guy went to his house and found him walking one day and confronted him on video and was saying, why are you not going to, you know,

why are you not going to debate him? Like, what do you have to hide? And he was just kept on and kept on. and he was just trying to get the hell away. But this is what you have now. So that was a big thing, right? So you had this. Now, Joe Rogan also grilled Dr. Peter Hottes for exclusively promoting vaccines

while disregarding exercise, vitamins, or any healthy diet whatsoever. And so I want to play this too because this was Dr. Peter Hottes. This was a plant that came on Joe Rogan's podcast. This was when Joe Rogan's podcast, was getting huge. There was so much attention on his podcast during the pandemic because you had doctors like McCullough. You had doctors like, I mean, there were so many of them.

Robert. Robert Malone, I believe. You had so many different people that came on here that was just sharing their opinions and a lot of it factually based facts based on what they were saying. You had these people coming on there and they were openly discussing the taboo, which was non-vaccines, non-healthy eating, all this stuff.

Well, this is what Dr. Peter Hotez had to say. This was after the 2019 interview. This was during the pandemic. This is what, what, 2020? I don't know. I think it was somewhere on there. I'll have to look at exact date, but yeah, it was somewhere on there. I think it was, I don't know.

I'll let you guys know in a minute. But listen to this. It's only like four minutes long. This is what Hotez had to say about vaccines and you know, pushing exclusively only vaccines. In other ways, do you take probiotics? Are you cautious about your diet? I'm not as cautious about my diet as I should be.

I'm a junk foodaholic, actually. Well, that seems like a terrible thing for your health. And actually, sorry, let me say this. This is the same interview, so my bad. Okay, so 2019. Yeah, 2019. Terrible thing for my health and something my wife is working on. But that seems ridiculous for someone who works with health.

Yeah. What's going on with you, man? Sometimes, man. I just don't get it right. How often? What? How often? How often do I steal a bag of chips or something like that?

How often do you eat garbage? I don't know. No, no, hopefully not every day. But maybe a couple of times a week. That's what with Rachel, my daughter with autism, that's like our thing is to go to the, it's called the burger joint or to shake shack to get a cheeseburger. we'll sneak some fries. So you live in large, we call it. Like that mouth pleasure so much, you're willing to sacrifice a little bit of health.

I have to concede that's the case. Well, I mean, I don't have to tell you, but there's a large body of data that connects poor diet to a host of diseases. That seems like a crazy decision for a guy in your line of work. There you go. Sometimes it's not all brain. It's something else. But, I mean, if you ate healthy food, I mean, the thing is your body starts craving healthy food. You start feeling positive goals.

Yeah, no question. No question about it. Do you take vitamins? I don't take vitamins. Really? Yeah. Wow. I don't think they do.

I don't think they're neither. Because most in the American. What? Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. You don't think they're needed while you're eating junk food? Well, hopefully I'm not only eating junk food.

You know, there's a large body of clinical research on the efficacy of vitamins, especially vitamins D, vitamins. I have taken vitamin D for periods, for the recommendation of my internist. What about essential fatty acids, which are great for your brain, fish oil, all these different things that are fantastic. I'm not going to argue with me. What is the way out of you, doctor? You got it. You got it over me.

Listen, but you would have a much better argument, don't you think? You're making my wife stay here. If you're taking care of yourself 100% instead of just concentrating. But you still need your vaccines. I'm sure you do, but vaccines aren't going to prevent cancer. No, that's true. Right. And there's a lot of diseases.

Or diabetes or cardiovascular disease. And a lot of these diseases are connected directly to diet. Right. Yeah. Come on. And other lifestyle changes. Yeah. Sedentary life. I try to go on the treadmill for 30 minutes.

You try. I do it. Actually, I'm pretty good about that. 30 minutes every morning. Why don't you just go for an actual walk? It's more interesting. I do that too. You have a dog?

No, but I do them with 30 minutes on the treadmill in the morning, and then I take a long walk with my wife in the evening. Oh, that's good. But, you know, the thing that knocks the crap out of you is to travel. Yes. I find that very frustrating because you don't exercise. And then you eat, you don't eat well and you don't control the diet as well. So that's... Well, I have a solution to that and eat well and exercise.

Those are solutions to that. Just do it. You know, I treat it like I'm brushing my teeth. I brush my teeth every day. Yeah. I actually... All right, so that was Hottes. Basically saying his diet sucks and he doesn't listen to anything.

Vitamins suck to. There's no problem with that. But it reminds me of when we first got into this pandemic, babe. Do you remember this? The Zoom meeting we had with the doctor that was like the head of Colorado or whatever. And we basically asked him the question, do you think vitamins will help at all? He's like, absolutely not. Vitamins don't do anything for you.

They don't help you in any way you get the vitamins from the food that's provided to you. Yeah. If that. There's only one way. Because it's insoluble. It just comes right through you. It does not go into your body. Blah, blah, blah, blah.

Yeah, he was another HOTES. And by the way, this guy, which you, I guess, went to school with back in the day. Yeah. Went to high school with him. You know, he was, we did the interview, did not release the interview or any of that, which I would love to get him back on here. But the reason I would love to get him back on is because he, you know, he was. he was a very prominent figure kind of during the pandemic in Colorado. And he was only, he was, he was another HOTAS.

He was pushing one thing. He was pushing, you know, whatever, whatever vaccine's going to save us and, you know, all this stuff. And then also it was, and if I'm not mistaken, when we actually talked to him and interviewed him, the vaccine was not even out. Right, right. It was just starting. But he had already had this messaging from up above the Lord. of elites saying that vitamins did nothing, tell everyone. Vitamins do nothing.

Healthy eating does nothing. Exercise does nothing. Make sure you tell everyone, any one of your people. Look, the only savior is the government. This is us. You must wait on the government to save your life. You know, just like so many people that probably would still be alive today. And by the way, I have...

If they did not listen to these type of people. Well, and number two, I think that the treatment protocols, based on my talking with Dr. McCola, or talking with him, treatment protocols potentially killed millions of people in itself. You know, I think back to my friend that died, Justin was his name, and I've known this guy forever. I went to school with him.

Whatever. He wasn't unhealthy. He was a, you know, and you remember when he died, I was like, what? Because, like, he had already had COVID once. He got COVID again. third time. No, no. He got COVID.

This was the second time he had COVID. And I had reached out a couple of times to his sister. And eventually, I believe his sister said that, like, you know, they put him on a ventilator. And that's what killed him. I mean, she didn't say that's what killed him. Yeah, but that's what does. She just said he had to go on a ventilator dead. Like, and I was like, you know, healthy dude already had COVID one.

And made it through it. Like, I mean, was this situation, and I don't know this for sure, but was this situation Preventable? No, no. But was this situation in a situation? You're in the hospital and you're like, can't breathe good, you know, I've got, you know, I've got this shit. I'm pretty sick. And then they do a little thing on your finger.

You've got a whatever auction, 89, 88, maybe even 90, 91. And they're like, and they go back to their system. of treatment, their protocol, right? They go to the desk and they say, hey, he's got a 90, whatever. You know, he's sick, pretty sick. Got a fever, so whatever. Ventilate him. You know, was this that system?

And if that was the system, it killed him. And it killed millions of other people. Oh, yeah, it did. As soon as we knew back then, and I told Chad, I said, if I ever get COVID and I get so sick that have to go to the hospital, do not let them ventilate me, ventilate me. because once they ventilate me, I'm done. And that's what so many people, it happened to them.

They ventilated them and they never came off those ventilators. And it just reminds me of the first real YouTube video that I saw of this. And it was a black gentleman in the ER. And his oxygen levels were low. They might have been like 79 or something. He's like, look, I'm breathing. No, they weren't 79. I don't even think.

They weren't even that low if I'm not mistaken. I don't know. But he was, he was breathing enough to be able to. fight these people off and said, no, I can breathe, I can talk, you're not touching me, do not touch me. They had to bring security in. And they forced him. And forced him to be on a ventilator. Yeah, that was a very disturbing video. Oh, it's still, I have nightmares about that. But you know, but you know what the other thing is, is like, number one, when you go in a hospital for help, you should be able to at all times leave on your own freaking recognizance. Right. And say if you,

you know, don't want this type of treatment or not. Yeah. They pretty, but. much put him, the security came in. It seemed like it anyway. No, based on the video. Yeah, on the video, they had to bring security to restrain him. To restrain him to ventilate him. And meanwhile, this guy is

arguing with them, like, you're not going to touch me, do not do anything to me, but I guess they were trying to make it sound like he was out of his mind and he didn't know what he was talking about. But this guy was totally coherent, in my opinion. Absolutely. Yeah, he was. I mean, and he was sick. He coughed and whatever.

But they forced him to ventilate was what it appeared. But, you know, there was a whistleblower nurse in New York. But he died. Yeah. That guy died. But there was a whistleblower nurse in New York City. She was a whistleblower. She came out in an interview in a hotel room.

Then these people videot her and said that she believed that this hospital was intentionally almost killing people. Killing people by the ventilator. Yeah. I mean, because some of these people should never have been on a ventilator. They were throwing everyone on the ventilators. And, you know, this was a system that was engineered. It seemed to potentially be rewarded for deaths of COVID patients. Is at least what it looks like from the amount of money that was given per patient, per death, per this, per that.

Right. And we watched Zoom meetings with like the head administration of nurses and blah, blah, blah. Them talking about how they have to code these, you know, these things so that they use. so that they get paid correctly. Yeah, even if they're not COVID, they've got to code them this way because we've got to get paid. And so that's the problem.

And guys, some of you might be out there thinking, like, well, why are we still talking about COVID and blah, blah, blah? Because what I think we have to understand is that if all of these people, including McCullough, including us, including Pierre Cori,

including probably hundreds of thousands of doctors. Well, even Robert Malone, who created the MRNA. Yeah, but according to all these people and even whistleblowers and all these people, this could potentially have been, and they very well may have been, the greatest crime against humanity that's ever been created, ever. And we're talking about mankind around the earth,

not just in one country, everywhere. Yeah, and so this is something that, you know, we're talking about it in now form. Like, we're just off the hills of this thing, right? And this is not going to be the last one. What just happened is almost like a trial run. To me, I believe my opinion says that if these elite people, the people that were over this and kind of behind the scenes of this pharmaceutical stuff and all this,

they're looking at this as a failed but successful opportunity to where they feel like they could do better. And they feel like they could next time they'll probably just have something kind of ready to where it says you either get this or you're all dying. And maybe that is your option. And it could be. But when you're saying it's over, it's really not over because not only, you know, we are still getting COVID, but people are not dying as drastically as they were in the beginning.

But they're still using things that are in the vaccination that people that didn't want to get vaccinated, they're using it in our food supply now. Yeah, MRNA and the foods. Yeah, we have a podcast on that. So it's not over. It's not over. No, absolutely. This is not over yet. Even though you think, oh, the pandemic's finally settling down.

It's over. If you get COVID, it's more of a mild cold. You might get really sick and feel like crap, you know, for a week or whatever. But it's the things behind the scenes that we're not seeing on an everyday basis that we've got to be worried about. No, you're right. You are 100% correct. So Joe Rogan, after this RFK Jr. interview, goes on and says, Peter, if you're you claim what RFK

Jr. is saying is misinformation, which is what Peter Hotez is saying, I am offering you $100,000 to the charity of your choice if you're willing to debate him on my show with no time limit. And so, and this is what Peter Hotes said,

right? So, and this was Joe Rogan retweeting Dr. Peter Hotes after the RFK Jr. interview, the recent one. But Peter Hotes said Spotify has stopped even sort of trying to stem Joe Rogan's vaccine misinformation. It's really true, whoever and Merlin, just awful.

And from all the online attacks I'm receiving after this absurd podcast, it's clear many actually believe this nonsense. And then he quotes a Vice article, by the way. Vice is a horrific news organization. And by the way, I don't even know why they're still doing articles because they're going bankrupt. They're going belly up. They're done.

Vice is done. but you know still quoting stupid-ass articles that is just all propaganda and then robert fkinney jr says peter let's finally have the respectful congenial informal debate that the american people deserve that's what robert kennedy ask him junior and of course that's not going to happen so um joe rogan rfk junior discussed why peter hotes and joe and joe biden refused to debate rfk junior and like we said Joe Rogan offered Peter Hote has $100,000. We're offering officially $10,000. I think the pot is at $1.5 million right now.

So that's 1.5.10. Point 10. That's definitely not the way that goes. I love it. Point 10. But anyways, here is a little clip, a two-minute clip of the Joe Rogan, RFK Jr. And every here you go. You had anyone debate you publicly about any of these? Nobody will debate me for 18 years.

nobody will debate me. In fact, I've scheduled many, many debates. And I've asked HOTES many, many times to debate me. And I think you've asked him here, why don't you debate Robert Kennedy? And he said, because he's a cunning lawyer or something like that. But I've debated Hottis on the telephone with, you know, with kind of a referee. And, you know, his science is just made up. He cannot stand by it. He cannot stand by it. He can't cite studies. Well, he was trying to tell me that vaccines don't cause autism. Yeah, and his daughter was autism and he wrote a book.

Yeah. But I asked him. My daughter doesn't have, that didn't get her autism from a vaccine, but I've read that book, and there is no science cited in that book. It's just him saying, you know, it didn't happen. And listen, I wouldn't wish that on anybody, and God bless him, and God bless that little girl. And, you know, I wrote, have nothing.

but, you know, good energy going to them. And, you know, but it's not, he's using her as a leverage to tell people you, you know, there's no problem here. But this is my point that I asked him what does. And he said there's a few, there's environmental factors that are aware of. I go, what are those? And you couldn't cite them. Like, how can you be so sure to say this definitely doesn't? But you're telling me there's a.

of environmental factors that do cause it, and we're aware of those factors, but you're not aware of them and you're an expert in this? Yeah. How is that possible? I mean, that's the... He's a health expert. That's the big question that anybody who says it's not the vaccines, I'm like, okay, fine. But they don't want...

If you say it's not the vaccines, people go, oh, good. That's what I wanted to hear. That's what I wanted to hear. When you say it is the vaccines, people go, oh, my God, I don't want to hear that. They don't want to hear it. And they get angry. They get angry at you. And they go, oh, tinfoil hat, conspiracy theorist.

But the fact that no one will debate you speaks volumes, especially now. They can't say now that you're not popular. And what's crazy is that Biden now has decided he's not even going to debate anybody in the primary. Yeah, which is true. That's crazy. No, Biden is no debating nobody. It's going to be like just he's going to be our president because we already know that. But anyways, go ahead.

But getting back to the point with him using his daughter as autism, we heard it twice now that he had to mention that his daughter has autism. Do you know how many people in the country have autism? Tons. It's probably one in ten children now. And if we want to get on that debate, we can go there too because it's not just being born that way. There's something that's happening to cause children to have autism. Yeah. And by the way, Sherry, you know, we'll give Sherry credit here, even though we're not going to go in.

into it, but Sherry definitely knows this. So I promise you, she knows this. And I know this just through Sherry, but, you know, yes, the amount of autism we see today is absurd. And if you go back and, you know, I would love to have RFK Jr. on this podcast to talk about that specific. Yeah, what is the causes? Is it environmental? Is it the food, the way the food is processed? It could be a host of those things. Is it vaccinations that we are giving our children? You know, there's a whole host of things. things that could be causing the uprise or the uptick in autism, but there is definitely an uptick.

Yeah. If you guys, for example, if you guys look up historical data on how many vaccines kids had in the early 80s, late 70s versus how many vaccines are required or kids do have in the 2020s and, you know, whatever, the 2000s. I think it was like 7 to 10 in the late 70s to early 80s I think it ramped up to 10 or 13 maybe somewhere in the 80s

Now it's like ridiculous number 30 something I don't even know what it is I'm not even going to go there because I think the number I'm thinking In my head sounds absurd Yeah but it may not be You guys do that research I don't know There's a lot of you know babies that are born prematurely And I think sometimes autism occurs naturally

In those circumstances but in a lot of circumstances, it's just happening and it's just there. And there's got to be a reason why. Same thing with ADHD. Well, here's my opinion, though, on this. And this is my opinion. But, you know, when you had smallpox, right? And you had all this stuff, which was very deadly to the population.

Yeah, you would have smallpox. Oh, no, not that chicken pox parties. No, no, but, yeah, no, chicken box. Yeah, not smallpox parties. Definitely do not have those. Because everybody would be dead. Right? I was going to, anyways.

So no, no, but yeah, chickenpox parties, well, I didn't have those. I got chicken pox anyway. And then, but we also don't know in reality how many of these things, these viruses, diseases, whatever, have been caused or made by mankind. Now that we are, now that we have seen and witnessed what is potentially, or what obviously all signs are pointing to COVID as a disease now, by the way, because what also people are not really talking about, which I want to get with a virologist. immunologists and whoever, Peter McCullough is also an epidemiologist. He does that as well. But, you know, when they call COVID-19 a disease, when you have a disease that typically don't go away without some form of treatment. You think about the AIDS vaccine or the AIDS disease. Well, AIDS is more of a virus disease. It's a virus, but you keep it forever. Right. It never goes away. It's always in your bloodstream once you get it. So is COVID-A- another AIDS. And the thing is, this is some RFK.

Hay is big on, he really calls out, especially in his book, Exposed him Falschi. I've said four different titles now. I should have known what the hell his name is, what the book's name is. Right. It's something Fachi. Yeah, but anyway, it's the real Falschi, whatever. But, you know, he talks about Falsci and the AIDS pandemic back then. Like, was he a potential cause of the AIDS thing? We don't know. But all I'm saying is, is that it was a virus. COVID is a virus, right? And AIDS didn't go away. Is COVID ever going to go away in people? Do we even know that yet? Well, if you want to get down to... Could this be a deadly end-of-life disease? To me, coronavirus has always been around. We just didn't call it coronavirus. It was a cold. But coronavirus somehow, it was leaked from a lab, and they

leaked it with... Well, we don't know about coronavirus. You're talking about COVID? COVID is a coronavirus. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. SARS could be two. I think they manipulated this virus in a lab to make it way more stronger and to get into host where it can spread and still survive. So they manipulated it by, you know, humans manipulating this thing. This is not something just like a natural cold that comes out of nowhere.

This is something that's been manipulated, you know, and used. Gang of Function. I believe totally. They used gang and function. function to cause this virus disease. Absolutely. You're, well, I mean, and that's kind of pretty much proven. I mean, you got faulty basically changing the definition of ganga function.

You've got, you know, this is the world we live in. But for those that missed it, Matt Taibi and others spotlighted Hotaz a few weeks ago, calling him the great double talking vaccine scientist for generally just being full of shit. And so the reason they say this is because Dr. Peter Hottes was at a coronavirus C-SPAN congressional hearing to where they bring on some of these doctors and they start talking about, you know, him as a vaccine expert because he is technically a Children's Hospital Center for Vaccine Development Co-Director in Texas. That is what his thing is. And so in the beginning and early stages of the pandemic, I just want to play you guys what HOTES was telling the government about this potential new COVID vaccine.

Here you go. Let me unmute this. The things that we're not hearing a lot about is the unique potential safety problem of coronavirus vaccines. And then something changed. Any vaccine released by emergency use authorization by the FDA's an outstanding vaccine. J&J's vaccine has a risk of life-threatening blood clots. When you hear the beep, that's the sound of safety.

So don't overthink it. They're both really good vaccines. They're all really good vaccines. Get vaccinated now. You've got to call now. If you wait, it's going to be really too late to protect your child. If this was your child, what happens next? Nix could make it the worst day of your life.

So even though COVID poses zero threat to healthy children, vaccinate your children. Do the right thing. Be safe and not sorry. I'm strongly recommending for adolescents to get there. Two doses of vaccine. We're fully immunized after those two doses. Advanced technology that can help save lives. This is going to be a long-lasting vaccine, a long-lasting vaccine. A few moments later.

We're seeing that two doses is not holding up well for emergency room visits. It's not holding up well for hospitalizations. We go again. Everyone's going to need a booster. You need that third immunization. Triple the amount. Get that third immunization. The two MRNA vaccines were always a three-dose vaccine.

The two MRNA vaccines were always a three-dose vaccine. I've always said this is a three-dose vaccine. I've always said this is a three-dose vaccine. This is a three-dose vaccine. But I'm not done yet. That third immunization, the problem is it's not holding up. So we may have to look at sort of innovative solutions. God, not this again.

A fourth immunization. Oh, boy. Just to keep them going. I'm sorry, guys. Country going. We have to consider some out of the box things. A fourth immunization. Four.

Fourth immunization. Get that second boost. The second boost to keep the country going. I've made that recommendation. A fourth immunization. But I'm still not done. One semester later. Unfortunately, the numbers are starting to trend up again.

So the hospitalizations are up. And so the most important message that I have this morning is get your new bi-valent booster. Willie and Lee's were saying they got their booster and I was like, oh, I need to get mine. And then I found out they're talking about the third shot. And is that the bivalent or is it the fourth booster or does it matter? Don't worry so much about the number of... There's no wrong way to use it. You have to get it.

This new bivalent booster. You can double or triple stack them? The new bivalent one is doing a much better job. You have to get a booster. You need to get this new bivalent boost. That bivalent booster for COVID. But does everyone ages 12 and older need? A booster?

The answer is yes. Yes. And by the way, if you're over 15, and have gotten two boosters and more than four to four months out, you're going to need a third booster as well, a fifth immunization. Five! I don't think we're going to need an annual booster like flu. I'm sorry, guys.

Dr. Hotez supports yearly boosters, just like flu. But I'm still not done. It looks as though the boosters are not holding up quite as well as we'd like. And I think our thinking is going to change and that what's going to happen is every, you know, a few months, we may need another booster. Perfect results each and every time. You know, we just could not overcome that massive disinformation campaign. These fake concepts of herd immunity and discrediting masks. Dr. Hotez, you are a national treasure.

It is picking off young people like we've never seen. Dr. Peter Hotez, that was extremely informative. Disinformation that you're hearing that kids are fine. It's nonsense. Kids need to get that vaccination. You healthcare workers have been our saviors. Watch out for that misinformation. Dr. Peter Hotes is probably one of the smartest people on this topic.

If you haven't gotten your bivin-ups vaccinated yet, now's the time to do that. Dr. Peter Hottes, thank you for saving the world. It also support giving that third immunization for the 12 to 17-year-olds. People have to feel safe. Dr. Hotez, you are a voice of reason. Take down the fake information. These fake concepts have heard him. Our last hope is to vaccinate our way through this.

Make certain that everybody's vaccinated, including their kids. That's the single most important thing right now. The American people have to do. Dr. Peter Hotez, who's the person that we'd like to go to, for the sort of expertise. The single most impactful thing you can do is make certain that you're fully boosted and preferably too boosted. Later. Buckypox is a global emergency.

And it's accelerating among a specific social network of men who have sex with men, not because it's sexually transmitted. Monkeypox is sexually transmitted, almost exclusively. Before we let you go, we have to stop and applaud you because a lot of MSNBC viewers who have watched you constantly for the last three years or so and have come to trust you. I don't know if they fully appreciate what you had done.

Oh, my God, dude. I'm sorry, we left the mics on for that one. We didn't know. It is kind of funny. I hope you guys are laughing along with us. Literally. I don't even know what else to say. I am speechless.

I mean, we are. It's nuts. Oh, my goodness. It is nuts. And exactly what his, uh, everything, everything you just heard has been everything propaganda is. It is. But the thing that really ticks me off about all of this, I know it's funny and everything.

Yeah. But the point where he's like, you got to get your kids vaccinated. 12 and under. six and under, blah, blah, blah and under. Do you know how many kids' lives have probably been affected that we don't even know about yet? We're going to know in the future about these vaccinations and what's come from those vaccinations from vaccinating. I mean, there's even women that were pregnant vaccinating. Yeah.

Because of the word of these scientists, I guess they're God. And if they tell you to get vaccinated, you better get vaccinated. Well, and the thing is, and I got to talk about this for a second, too, because, you know, Dr. Peter Hotez, he was not just on MSNBC and CNN. He was on multiple media platforms, including Fox News. Yeah. Right. So he was being pushed, and this was something that Fox News started doing, and they brought in Hotez quite often. But also, I got to point out that for those of you that remember OxyClean, the Billy Mays commercials, which were the infomercials, that was the guy they were using for them.

in between. But we're not done yet. You know, number five, by Relevant booster. Well, it turns out none of this shit's working. We're going to do another booster. Yeah, you've got to do another booster. We're up to three. No, it's actually four. It's like Oprah. You get a booster. You get a booster. You get a booster. Oh, you want a fifth booster, seventh booster, eighth booster?

No, it's count. It's Count Dracula on Sesame Street. It's not. One, a two. A three, a four, a five. But guys, so over the weekend, Hote has a frequent guest on CNN NBC during the COVID-19 pandemic, they posted a vice article that claimed Spottoff has stopped even sort of trying to stem Joe Rogan's vaccine misinformation. So after the episode with Kennedy, which is obviously a presidential candidate in

2024 and a prominent skeptic of some childhood vaccines, the article essentially served as a hit piece targeting Rogan, accusing him of fostering misinformation by allowing Kennedy on his program. And it says, it's true, he wrote, adding that the interview is just awful. And from all the online attacks I'm receiving after this absurd podcast, it's clear many actually believe the nonsense. So, and guys, based on the audio clip you guys just heard of all the BS that Peter Hotez has spewed across all platforms continually throughout the pandemic, it should be no

surprise whatsoever that Dr. Peter Hotez does not at all want to go on to debate anyone at this point after the pandemic. No one would want to do that. I will pay him to debate you for $2,000. So Rogan up the stakes and said $100,000 as we talked about, right? And then others joined in with investor Bill Ackman adding $150,000 to Rogan's wager. You had Tim Poole saying, you know, I'm I'm literally offering $100,000 in a total pot of 1.52. Desperate attempt to get the experts to debunk misinformation. You had people all over that had any money that was willing to just put it up to have this debate. But it's not ever going to be allowed to happen because as we know, and as the reason why we were pointing this out,

HOTAS is a bought out paid for a member. Now, the beginning of that video, and I don't want to lose sight and forget to re-mentioned this, the beginning of the audio clip of HOTES that we just played, was him in front of Congress saying, we better look at potential side effects of vaccines if we're going to start pushing this. That was his initial... The original. The very first time he was in front of anybody. Every time after that was vaccine, booster, booster, booster, booster, booster.

He was bought out. He was threatened. He was whatever. It doesn't matter. He was whatever it took that he then 100% change the stance. There's no way any good moral doctor can say without any actual factual evidence or any studies worth of shit. Because if we look at all the studies that were supposedly done, all these trials of the vaccine, there was a lot of BS that went along with that. Right.

And how they can misconstrude the results and findings. It was all ridiculous. And so any actual moral doctor would never look at that and see that this is how this went and then also push it like he did. And that's why also at the same time, and it is sad because there's going to be a lot of people that also die because of people that no longer trust the medical system, the health care system. People no longer trust their doctors. Maybe the same doctors that these people were going to that you,

trusted your whole life. Then when the vaccine came out, regardless of whatever could have potentially happened to you when you took it, your doctor that you've always trusted went in the room and said, are you not getting your vaccine? Why are you not doing this? And this is someone that I think it opened a lot of eyes. It did because our doctor did the same thing to us. And even like we did a Zoom call with our doctor.

I had COVID at the time. He's like, well, you still got to get the booster. Even though you have COVID, that gets you. natural immunity, but you still need to get the booster because it was being told from the top down. And really, these type of doctors, regular physicians, are the bottom line. They're like the feeding barrel, right? So they have to do what they're said told to do. Yeah, no, I agree.

Or they're not going to have a job. Now, there's a guy named Tom Nichols, Radio Free Tom. He says, no medical professionals should ever agree to do this. Never. He's talking about the debate, right? Never. It elevates the conspiracy guy, demeans the medical professional, and will only convince the cooks out there that RFK is right because a real doctor took the time to debate him. No, that's not true. It would only confirm that RFK Jr. was right if you could not prove your point.

That's it. I mean, listen, the solution to bad speech is always alternate speech, right speech. speech, correct speech, adversarial speech that is either factually based or that prevails based on popular opinion. That is what happens. That has always been the way it has been since people were able to speak since eternity. Even in cave times where people didn't even know a language probably or when we first were invented, right, by God or whatever you believe. If there was no language then, okay, and you had 10 people around and then something,

something happens, say that a dog attacked one of your 10 people, and then you all voted to kill the dog because it was obviously a bad thing, well, that's nine people, because you have nine now, because the dog killed the 10 person, but if there's nine people that just saw this happen, right, then you're all going to vote because you just seen it, right? And it's factually thing. What I'm saying is, is that you present the problem, which is the dog attacking the 10th person, like you would present the problem of the vaccines with RFK Jr. and Peter Hottes, and you debate it. Let the people make up their mind what is right and what is wrong. If you had 50 people that saw this dog attack, some of those people could not necessarily see

the dog attack from the back, but if you allowed them into the front to see what happened, right, then those people would probably vote for you too. But if you only kept those people back there that could not see the dog attack, but yet the people for you. in the front, people that were not true, went back there to the people in the back and said, that didn't happen. The guy hit the dog and was trying to kill the dog and the dog defended itself, right? Right. But that's what these people believe. So they're going to vote otherwise. But you have to have everyone in the cathedral seating looking down on the actual thing that happens for people to make a real judgment call. And that is what they cannot

not allow to happen. So maybe we should make this scenario more like a grease time than the beginning of times because how are they going to even communicate? But people just got it, babe. It doesn't matter. People got it. Okay. People got it.

I'm just telling you they did. All right. So anyway, so this guy says no medical professional should ever agree to do this. Joe Rogan says, again, I'm going to ask you very clearly, are you willing to debate RFK Jr. on the podcast? And this is, you know, this is what he retweeted. So then Joe Rogan. saw this guy's tweet and said, that'd be a great suggestion if you could assure that the industry you were representing

wasn't completely captured by heartless monsters who have a history of some of the biggest criminal fines in human history because their deception has cost hundreds of thousands of people their lives. Right? So, I mean, this is not just a bullshit topic you're going to go debate or just something, you know, don't worry about it. You know, no medical professionals should ever be. These are our lives, man.

This is the mass population's lives of who you, of which you just pushed a untested, untriiled vaccine on mass populations of people. And by the way, I don't know if you guys realize this, but there are many, many, many, many people, not just because of the pre-treatment protocols, because the government's bullshit that are still to this day mourning the loss of their family and loved ones, but also people that got the vaccine. And they're also mourning the loss. And some of those people that we've actually even talked to regret so hard that they ever let whoever it was they lost ever get it. Yeah. But there is also some people that still think, oh, because not everyone got vaccinated. We weren't a herd immunity. Yeah, well, that's ridiculous.

But you remember in the beginning, and I'm not trying to bring up Cuomo in New York, but you have to bring this up during this circumstance because that's where a lot of people were. mass murder during that time. Yeah, and nursing homes. Yeah, he was bringing people in with COVID into an old people's home. Like, who does that? And the thing is, Andrew Cuomo, look, I got to say, I mean... He's lucky. He's not in jail.

No, he's... But look, they got him out of all that with a sexual scandal, which amounted to nothing. They literally, that was a false flag. That was a... They knew that the heat was coming down on him about the nursing home. So they invented this bullfinding home. So they invented this bullfinding. shit sex scandal. The media ran with that. It pushed it everywhere. And then he was gone. Yep.

That's the same. I mean, literally, I mean, if people don't see that, then, I mean, and all it really is, guys, is just, you know, like I said, I'm in marketing. All it is is marketing. You have to, it's the same thing as if I have a company that I am representing, and I've had to do this, by the way, many times on different circumstances. If I have a company I'm representing that something happens to where it's not good for publicity. Whether it be somebody who'd do a bad review or anything. No, not even that. I mean, let's think about, let's even talk about an attraction company that, which I don't want to go too deep in the details here because like, but let's talk about an attraction company that has. And by the way, it was, is it was of no fault of the attraction company whatsoever. But what I'm saying is after hurricanes or whatever, and then they go out and then there are people saying, oh, there's this in the water. Yeah, the water's bad. Or whatever, which is not true because, by the way, we, we've all.

I, especially, because I'm marketing this product, I'm always looking at all that stuff. But it's one of the things that I have to do my very best to, you know, uplift the company and drown the bad. And it's the same thing with anything. It's the same thing if it's a hotel company or they have some bad, say a shooting happening or happens at this hotel or whatever. They got a downgrade. Yeah, but you have to elevate good. Right. And downgrade the bad.

and drowned out the bad with something else. But the difference with this and what you're talking about and what actually happened is I think that, because I'm going to tell you, when all the pandemic was coming and then Cuomo was doing his daily, like, um, slideshow and telling us everything, I was like, this guy is pretty informative. Like he's telling us everything. I'm starting to trust this guy no matter what, but all this information was coming from above him. meanwhile he was a good face yeah he was a good face for their picture

meanwhile they're killing all these old people in nursing homes by putting people in COVID with them yeah you know how smart is that now you're exactly right and and he knew I well whether he knew or whoever

it was that was pushing this and you know they knew what they were doing yeah because they wanted numbers I mean but It's the fact that they got the American people to trust him. Absolutely. Based on him, his face, his, you know, the slideshow coming out and trying to be as truthful as possible. But it was also. I was one of those that really, like I kind of look forward to his daily updates.

Well, here's the thing, though, about Como is, you know, you have to understand that during this time, and by the way, this is the same city, same state that he was. was governor over. But it was the same city, though, where this whistleblower nurse came out and said they were basically killing people, what was her accusation. Also, it was the same place that you had Trump send this massive ship of beds to separate, especially the old people. I was thinking about that. And they didn't even use it. They didn't even use this humongous medical ship. No, instead, they sent all the elderly back in a nurse home, all with COVID. And it was almost as if, like, I mean, come on, think about it. You have this ship that was not even used.

And yet instead, they were like, no, no. Because if we sent, if we quarantined people on this ship, then they're not potentially going to kill tons of other people. We need the numbers. And then we're going to highlight Como on here. And this is what coma you're going to say, you're going to be the face. You're going to be the face of this. And by the way, they probably already told them, listen, if this shit gets out ever,

don't worry, we'll do some kind of like sex scandal or whatever. Right. And in the meantime, they were not worried about the ship to, to try to quarantine people, they were worried about people in the tire industry or the rubber industry to make more and more and more and more ventilators to, quote, unquote, save people's lives. That was their main focus was getting more ventilators, more ventilators. Meanwhile, these ventilators, once you're on a ventilator, pretty much you're not coming off of it until you're dead. Now, you're exactly right. I'm trying to find, I'm just looking at,

something here. Sorry. That's the wrong. That's the wrong clip. My bad. So anyway, so Dr. Hotez had recently went on MSNBC. And Hotez went on MSNBC and he basically ran to, you know, the safe space of MSNBC. I want to play you. Sorry, I just got it. Here's a clip of Hotez coming on MSNBC.

NBC and he's responding to being asked to debate with anti-vaxter, as they call it, RFK Jr. Let's check it out. Contrary to what RFK Jr. and other anti-vaccinuts have claimed, there is no connection between vaccines and autism, no connection, no established documented connection between vaccines and serious diseases or mass death. Vaccines tend to save lives across the board, do they not? That's what the peer-reviewed evidence overwhelmingly shows, does it not? And people are dying right now from COVID still because the evidence on COVID vaccine's efficacy is being ignored or shouted down on social media.

Well, there's three or four moving parts to this. So I'm a vaccine scientist. I make low-cost, patent-free vaccines for low- and middle-income countries. We made 100 million doses. We made two vaccine prototypes that led to 100 million doses being administered in India and Indonesia. no patents, minimal strings attached. So we actually found a way to bypass the pharma companies, and yet RFK Jr., incessantly calls me a pharma shill,

when, if anything, our vaccines maybe kept Pfizer-Moderna out of markets in India and Indonesia. So I don't understand that piece. And then the reason I got involved with RFK Jr. in the first place is I have an adult daughter, Rachel, who has autism and intellectual disabilities, and wrote the book, Vaccines Did Not Cause Rachel's Autism, that refuted all of his false claims. And that's been, you know, he's been kind of after me ever since then. And now he's added again.

But this time, you know, Elon, I'm sorry, this time, Eddie, it's caused something really terrible. And that is during our COVID pandemic, I have a new book coming out that basically says 200,000 Americans needlessly perished because they believe the anti-19. vaccine disinformation and refuse to take a COVID vaccine during our Delta wave and B.A.1. Omacron wave in 2021-22 after vaccines were widely available. So the point is anti-vaccine disinformation, it's always done a lot of damage and harm. But now it's a lethal force in the United States. And that's why we have to have that discussion. And I offer it to come and talk to go on Joe Rogan again. I've been on a couple of times and have that discussion with it, but not to turn it into the Jerry

Springer show with having RFK Jr. on. Well, so it's sad because I said I'm so fed up on the debate me, debate me, because it's not really about the debate. If it was about finding out information, as you said, you've already written about vaccines and autism. You've already spoken and written about COVID vaccines. I think you've been on MSNBC and other channels hundreds of times since the start of the pandemic.

People can hear your views and the evidence you bring to this. So they're not actually interested in evidence. And it's saddened means that you're a man who basically has saved lives abroad with the vaccines you've developed, whereas RFK has contributed to a culture, a vaccine misinformation culture that has led to the deaths, as you say, of hundreds of thousands of lives, and yet he's the one being celebrated by tech billionaires like Musk and Jack Dorsey. Yeah, guys, let me tell you, he has been on MSNBC and all of them, and he's already said it. So what do you need to even hear anymore?

Yeah, what do you got a debate? Yeah. Like, what's wrong with you, people? Listen to this guy. He wrote a book. Just listen to him and read his book. Yeah, he wrote the book, so which means he's 100% accurate. Okay, listen, and here's the thing.

One of the things that Peter Hottes has said, and many have said, it's almost absurd to hear to this. But since the pandemic happened, all these doctors, Fauci was one of them, Hotez is one of them. He's been on MSNC in saying this. So many of these propagandist doctors have said, we don't debate science. That is literally a quote on many of them. Right, right. But go with the science, even the commercials. No, no.

Go with the science. No. But listen, every notable scientist since Galileo is crying. By hearing the phrase, we don't debate science. Science is always the number one most debated topic in history, because that is what actual science is. It is to be debated. It is to be tried, true, and tested. It is to be everything, because you're never going to advance in anything without trying, testing, or debating.

anything that you do. You're never going to actually get smarter. You're never going to advance as a civilization as a whatever without debating. And science is the number one. Science is the biggest thing. When you say that someone says, oh, well, I think that we could potentially save lives with this cancer treatment, but then someone and someone else comes along and says, well, I think that it could be better. And this could actually hurt them rather than help them. This is how shit progresses. Right. And you just think about. even back in elementary school, middle school, high school, when you were doing the science fairs and you had to do a science project. The whole basis of your science project was testing something and coming up with your data.

Well, everyone that is in the science community is coming up with data and they pretty much are what you're saying. They debate each other on their data because there is no right and wrong answer. Say, you know, what I guess, there is no right and wrong answer with science, but the, The only thing we can see is the ultimate ending data. Yeah. Yeah. What's actually happening versus what scientists want you to believe, I guess. I don't know.

Yeah, this is a quote. I don't think an historian of World War II should debate a Holocaust denier. What? Well, how would one not be the perfect person to do that? I mean, who else should debate a Holocaust denier and mechanic, right? A vaccine expert is literally the perfect person to debate RFK Jr. I mean, what I'm saying here is, is that this was one of Hotez's things. Yeah, he was saying.

Yeah, Holocaust. Well, it's like, why would you debate a Holocaust denier? Right. Well, it's because if you are, I mean, and by the way, if you're a historian of World War II, and you know all about all of this, you are an expert in this field, you would be literally the perfect person to debate a Holocaust denier. Right. Just like Peter Hottes as a vaccine expert where all of the media has pushed this propaganda on everyone in this world and you were supposedly the most knowledgeable. You have saved so many lives according to propaganda MSNBC. You would literally wipe the floor with RFK Jr.

Right. If you're this big expert and he's just this lawyer. But Hotez did something that was pretty smart by even putting Robert Kennedy in the same sentence as, a Holocaust denier. Because that's not actually what he is. No, but by him saying that, it's going to make people think that that's what he is. Even though he's using that as an expression or a way of saying,

yeah, how do you do that? You can't weigh apples to oranges. You got to do apples to apples. So that was pretty smart on his behalf, because now, just listening to that statement, you wonder, are some people that, you know, are not out in the media and know everything, they're going to think, oh, did he really think that?

Was he against the Holocaust? Did he not believe in that? You know, that was pretty smart on... Well, it's smart. It's just propaganda. It's all the same BS. So here's a clip, too. I want to play this to you guys, because, look, this is all connected,

but RFK Jr. and Joe Rogan discussed a book, Cause Unknown, the epidemic of sudden deaths. I want to play a little segment of this. And then we'll touch back in just a second. Here you go. You're explaining to me when we're outside before we came in here. I said I wanted to talk about it here instead. You were explaining how, instead of using the VAR system, that there's a method of analyzing a whole host of data to find out about deaths, how many coffins are ordered, how many people die of heart attacks, strokes.

There's another way to look at. Yeah, I mean, there's the guy. who kind of showed that to the world was Ed Dowd. And Ed Dowd was a, he was a big Wall Street guy. He was

one, I think he operated one of the portfolio companies for Black Rock. He grew it. And again, you know, this needs to be checked a little and maybe James could, but I think he grew from, you know,

under a billion to 14 billion dollars. He was a major player in Wall Street. And the way he did that was he saw the 2008 crash coming because he's a numbers guy. He sees the world in terms of numbers. During the pandemic, he had no kind of early exposure to the medical freedom movement or anything else. He just started seeing data that made no sense to him. And it was a lot of those was kind of the all-cause mortality deaths. He started seeing. people dying after vaccination that shouldn't have been dying. You know, kids on the ball fields, all of these, you know, the athletes, et cetera.

But he was looking at these non-conventional data sources, like the ones that you spoke of. He was looking at insurance industry actuarial insurance industry data that showed excess deaths, particularly in younger groups, spiking after the vaccine and seeing it all over the world. And he ended up doing a book on this that is designed to be read in, I think, an hour or 90 minutes. And it's a book. It's an extraordinary book because it has all of these graphs that are incredibly convincing, compelling. But it's the kind of book. If you have a skeptic and you can get them to sit down for 90 minutes with this book, when they get up, they will they will have converted.

And it has one part of the book has like maybe a thousand photos of local newspapers reporting athletes dying on playing fields. These stories never made the national news, but the local papers were, you know, because they'd happen at the local game. And so, yeah, so what RFK Jr. is saying there is that one part of the book has maybe a thousand photos of local newspapers reporting athletes dying on playing fields. It is sickening that all these kids are dying and these things are never going reported in national media.

So the amount of local athletes that are dying in local media is absurd. It is. It is. And when you even bring up the viewer system or whatever, that is only getting like, what, 5% of the actual cases or something? 1% or something? Yeah, I think originally they said 1. And then they said five, yeah, you're right.

I mean, who knows? It's probably still one percent. It's five percent of the actual cases out there in the world. That system does not work because nobody reports. Nobody uses it. That is not a fair, like, you know, you can't really use something that's five percent of, you know, 100 percent. That does not work. Yeah, absolutely.

You know, and look, Dr. Peter Hottaz has been spread in lies from the very beginning. I mean, for example, he advocated in May of 20, for vaccinating children to achieve herd immunity. And his narrative was uncritically pushed by mainstream media. Millions of children were harmed because of him, according to many people. I mean, this was something that we have now proven hurt immunity was never possible. No, it wasn't. This was a big propaganda lie.

The only true way to ever actually achieve, which was what many doctors were saying in the beginning of this pandemic, was the only way we're going to get hurt immunity is actually to get the virus. And actually it kind of, you know, says. But here's the thing, too. And this is something, I'm not a doctor, none of that stuff. I've extensively studied this. Like, I mean, this is one of the things I'm most passionate about. I am too.

But, you know, vaccines, if anything, for what many studies show is actually, and you guys can look these studies up, it actually showed a negative benefit to herd immunity rather than any positive. because what a lot of these vaccines appeared to do was cause a by relevant, I guess you can say, what is it called? Well, I think that what happened is some other type of vaccine, variants. Variants. That's what I was saying. A variant. Would come into play.

All these different variants, all these different variants. And I'm not saying that it can't happen with typical viruses. But we have to remember originally, though, this thing was from a lab. Yes. But if you remember when it was at its peak, when we went from the alpha to the Delta or whatever, we went to Delta, do you remember the lab in Africa that released a small amount of Omicron? And there was conspiracy around that that was done on purpose. Yes, it was done on purpose to get control of the whole COVID thing, the whole COVID situation. And after Omnichron came out and it was a less effective virus, meaning... More contagious, less deadly.

Yes. Far less deadly. Right. So it would affect people, but it was not hurting them as much. Once this got out among a population in Earth, you know, on Earth, that's when it kind of ended. Yeah. And it was, yeah, I mean, there were multiple papers around South Africa. I think it was a South Africa lab.

Right. There were so many people come out and saying, look, these scientists here, it first started as they found Omicron. then there was a lot of people saying, no, they release this on purpose to try to stop the spread of this shit. But how smart is that? To do that, to get a less deadly form of this. More contagious, less deadly. Yeah. Well, how smart is that.

And we don't know how true that is, but you guys can look it up. But if it is true, that's what really helped end the pandemic. And then talking about the children, what he was talking about earlier, you know, you got a vaccine children six and below to have the herd immunity. Well, the problem is with children, none of them were getting sick. None of them had symptoms. And they were also not spreading it. Right. And they said they're carriers of COVID that could affect elderly people, which I still cannot wrap my brain around the whole thing of being a carrier and not knowing you have it.

It makes no sense to me. Because normally when you get a virus, you get sick. You have symptoms of some sort. and then that's when you're contagious, when you have a fever or something, and that's how you spread it to other people. But for some reason, children were, had no fevers, had no symptoms for the most part.

It was like 0.02 or something percent of children that it did not affect children for some reason. And that's why we kept kids out of school for two years is because we didn't want to spread COVID. Meanwhile, kids really can't spread it and, you know, they can spread it again. but they're not getting sick and dying from it. No.

And that's the thing, guys. The reason why, another reason why we're so passionate about this topic is because, I don't know, we, you know, this podcast, we lashed on this for since the beginning. We knew there was a bunch of lies. We knew there were things really, I mean, this is, you know, as we've said on other podcasts before, there, you know, there's so many conspiracy podcasts, which is how we started. that has to go back in history and find conspiracies. And if you want the biggest conspiracy against humanity, this is it. It is. I mean, in our time.

And I know there are things happening right now with so many things that are maybe going to trump this by far. And we just have not seen them yet. But this is another reason why, you know, Nathan Jones with Clear. And I'll bring him up again. And we're not sponsored at all. we don't get paid anything by Nathan or Clear or any of that. He's a good friend of ours. The reason we kind of latched on to him and we became very close is because Nathan is not only a CEO for a big company like Clear and Nasal Spray, which in our opinion really helped with COVID and helped a lot of people.

There are so many of you guys, listeners, that reached out to say that. But Nathan is an example. And I want to give us, and just like Peter McCullough, which is Nathan hooked us up with Peter McCullough for the interview and all that. And he's very well connected in this kind of like the black sheep of the anti-propaganda narrative of COVID. And Nathan is a huge figure in this. He goes to Congress. He goes talks to senators. Peter McCullough does the same thing.

But Nathan's one of these people that is his true heart and. compassion is for saving people. And yet he is being screwed by the government, by the FTC, and all he wants to do is spread the message of this shit. And that's why we have him on. That's why he's a close friend of ours because we know his heart. And Peter McCull is the same way. Peter McCull is out there risking everything.

There are these people out there that risk everything and are willing to risk everything. I mean, for example, Nathan has spending millions of dollars. on this lawsuit. Peter McCullough has probably spent shit tons of money on lawsuits against him with Baylor University and everything else. There are people fighting for you, for every one of you listening. And even people that are against them, they're fighting

for them still. Yes. Yeah, and they're spending their millions of dollars in many cases to fight for your future of whether or not the government and the propaganda and the freaking pharmaceutical is going to take over your life and dictate to you what you can and can't do with your own body although the liberals and Democrats want to say, oh, my body, my choice, but that's all bullshit because it's only that way if it has to do with killing babies. Otherwise, it is not your body, not your choice.

Inject me with anything you want to do. Yes, because you've got to protect other people. Yeah, it's all bullshit. And so what I'm saying is, guys, those people out there that are doing this stuff, Nathan Jones of Clear, Peter McCullough, Pierre Corey, so many of the. these people are really fighting the battle on the front lines. We are trying to do that as well. You guys got to support those people. I encourage you guys to do that.

Support the fight because this is a fight. We are in a fight of information. We say this all the time. And this is why we had to do this because although you think COVID is over, but it's going to be another COVID and it's going to be worse. And we have to understand. We have to regroup and think about how we're going to not ever let the shit that happened over the three years happen again.

because we're going to need some kind of battle strategy going forward because next time they're going to be better prepared and you better be too. Because they know what's going to happen, but it's still going on. The fight is still going on. Like I said, with the food and everything else that we don't even know about that's going on yet, that will probably arise in the near future. This battle. Probably without us knowing it. Yeah, this battle is not over. Even if we don't know it, the battle's not over because they have stuff up their sleeves that we don't even know about.

Yeah. No, you're right. You're right, Sherry. Guys, we love each and every one of you. We do this podcast for you. We're trying to spread a message. We're trying to fight for humanity. We're trying to fight for truth.

We're trying to fight for our basic rights as people. We were born on this earth, not for asshole elites to control and rule us. We were born on this earth to make a difference, and that's what we're trying to do. And I hope you guys will as well. Guys, until next time, we love you. Peace out. Peace out, guys. Love you. Makes it easy a too.

Keep on breathing. At night in my dreams, off in peace, I remember it all. I see all that cools. Feels like I'm fainting. blush like a painting. No colors of blue.

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