Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Julian Assange Wikileaks Conspiracy Podcasts | Extradition Granted

Episode Date: December 14, 2021

Julian Assange will now be extradited to the US to face up to 176 years in prison for exposing the lies and horrific war crimes by the US government. What kind of example is the US trying to make out ...of Julian? What does this tell us about government that maybe many has suspected for a long time. All of this and more on this episode of Julian Assange Wikileaks Conspiracy Podcasts.

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Starting point is 00:00:02 Hello, let's break up. We watched the waves crash from a living room, but you got over that after a month or two. Sick of the beach, so we flew to New York, and we partied all night, but you still say you're bored. We bought change, because I'm never mind, let's break up. Let's break up. Hello, hello, and welcome to Investigate Earth podcast. I'm your host, Chad, alongside my wife, Sherry. Hello.
Starting point is 00:02:01 So am I the beautiful wife or just the wife? Beautiful wife. Like, we have to say this every time. Beautiful, awesome. What makes you say beautiful sometimes and not beautiful sometimes? Beautiful, awesome, amazing. I don't know. It just, it, I mean, I would say it all the time.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Yeah, it's just kind of like our text. Yeah, it's just like our text messages if I don't say, I love you. You're like, why don't you say I love you? Same thing. Yeah, you say the same thing to me, though. Anyways, guys, that was never mind. Let's break up by Laney. It's one of our actual favorite bands.
Starting point is 00:02:29 We followed Laney for a long time. We love them. Figured we would change it up a little bit on tonight's podcast and have Laney on here. Laney on here. The only thing is wrong with them is they live in California. Yeah. But they have awesome music.
Starting point is 00:02:44 But listen, I know some of you guys probably live in California. So we don't hold anything against you. Yeah. But you guys need to get to hell out of here. But they have the kind of music that. you want to, like, in the summer, have a convertible or roll down all your windows and just blare the music. Yeah, I mean, that's the thing for me is, like, we, uh, shirry and I travel, uh, well, not travel, but we, we go down to the coast of South Carolina quite often. You know, I mean, I lived in the Cosa, South Carolina, but we like to go to Hilton Head, South Carolina, which is one of our favorite places to go, especially in the summer.
Starting point is 00:03:17 But, I don't know, music like that, and if you listen to a lot of Laney stuff, it just, you know, if you listen to it, or remind you of summer, it reminds you of the beach, you remind you of, like, all that stuff. And we played a lot of Lainey at the beach as well. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:03:30 and we just, like, open the sunroof and, you know, and drive. It was awesome. Yeah, it was. So anyways, that was Lainey, and we, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:40 I'm sure Lainey might come across this podcast when they were, like, what the hell they put us on Julian Assange for? But anyways, no, so we on tonight's podcast are going to be talking, talking about Julian Assange and WikiLeaks and what's going on. Now, the thing is, we have mentioned Julian Assange, and we've obviously mentioned Edward Snowden,
Starting point is 00:04:01 and we've mentioned all these names in the past on our podcast episodes. We've never actually done an episode on either or any of those subjects. And I think... We need to do both, really. Yeah, I mean, really, a lot of what we're going to talk about on tonight's episode kind of also goes towards Snowden. You know, I mean, we could do an episode on Snowden, but these things are pretty similar. And, you know, similar but not in the same sense of things. I mean, Edward Snowden actually worked for the government.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Julian Assange did not. But either way, it's just how these people have been treated and the fact that they have had to run for their lives because of the United States government and because of they did nothing more than either allow an outlet for exposing the truth or actually exposed the truth. I mean, for example, Snowden exposed, you know, just a simple fact that the United States government was spying on people, normal Americans, everyday Americans. And, you know, I don't even know why that should come as a surprise, considering the age and in which we live nowadays. Everything is able to hear your voice. I mean, you can, you can literally just say something to your phone, hey, Google, or this or that. And see, my phone just did it. It just came on.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Same with Alexa. With Alexa, everything else. And there's even been news reports come out and people come out and say, yeah, we can hear people say even when they don't say Alexa. Yeah, they're still listening. Yeah. So. That's why, like, even with Snowden, he's like, if he's going to talk to anybody, put your phone in the microwave. Like, he wants everything safe because the government can hear everything that they want to hear.
Starting point is 00:05:43 No matter. As long as you have some type of device around you, they can hear you. Yeah. So, yeah, that's, I mean, so this, you know, this whole thing has just been nuts with Julian Assange and all that. And so we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about he did. Now there was a clear path paved essentially for his extradition back to United States. United States, not states. And so, yeah, I mean, it's just, it's a crazy thing. But we're going to talk about what that means for us and what it means for just, you know, maybe the way we look at government, maybe the way we look at. You know, the people that supposedly are there to help, they're not anymore. This is just not the way it is. This is happening around the world. It's not, this is not just a United States problem. And this is a worldwide problem.
Starting point is 00:06:30 And so we're going to talk about that. But, guys, we are a little delayed on doing the, again. We're a little delayed on. But the reason we're delayed, we've had a lot of stuff going on. You know, Sherry's mother, it did come out. She has cancer. So I guess I can say that, right? Yeah, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:06:48 to all these people but uh yeah it came out that sherry's mom does in fact have cancer so we've been dealing with that um things are a little bit delayed we've not had the opportunity to kind of do a couple of things that we uh would have we actually would have had podcasts probably all weekend but just couldn't do that and um you know sherry's been trying to be there for her mom and and all that stuff so that's been a main concern and read reports and try to learn terminology and reports i mean it's like a lot of a lot of stuff and you know just because i'm a worry-war and I stay up all night researching this stuff. Anybody's worry about it.
Starting point is 00:07:22 We've already been through this. My mom, my mom had lung cancer and breast cancer and lymphonic cancer. What was it, a year and a half ago, I guess, two years ago. And so that's what we've been dealing with. It's tough. It's draining. And I'm not saying it's a good thing, but we do kind of have prior knowledge because of your mom.
Starting point is 00:07:41 So I think that we're more up to date than not knowing, you know what I'm saying. And they're one of my brother's friends. Yeah. One of my brother's friends, someone I grew up knowing as well, 44 years old, I believe, died in his driveway of a heart attack. Died in his driveway of a heart attack that was last week. And so although I'm not going to, you know, say anything. Say that he befriended you because your vaccination comments.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. He was, he did live in, I guess, California for a while. And the thing about it is, I don't know, it was weird because, you know, he became pretty liberal and, you know, and that's fine. I mean, I don't have a problem. I mean, I have people on my timeline that are liberal or hardcore Democrats or whatever the cases.
Starting point is 00:08:35 I mean, I grew up with a lot of them. And, you know, just because I see someone else's opinion on something doesn't mean, oh, delete. Unless they're just complete moron about just like whatever. But even still, I usually don't delete them. I just laugh or just roll my eyes. I'm going, okay. But, you know, in this particular case, I think it was about a year ago, I'd said something about the vaccine or the potential vaccine, whichever it was.
Starting point is 00:09:02 I think it was actually the vaccine that already came out. And then I got deleted by him. But anyways, so he had died of a heart attack at 44. That was about a week ago. Found him in his driveway. And that's all we know so far. So it's just, there's a bunch of some weird stuff going on in the past week. And so that's our little life update, I guess you can say.
Starting point is 00:09:21 And that's kind of while we have not got the things out, we're going to get out, we promise. Just you'll know when it's out, I promise you. So I found this interesting. There's a post from the South China. God, I can't damn talk tonight. You're like me. South China Morning Post. And it basically just says, just imagine if Julian Assange was Chinese.
Starting point is 00:09:47 As pointed out by at least one British pundit, the founder of WikiLeaks would have been celebrated and hailed as a hero by the West, instead of facing extradition to the U.S. Unfortunately, he exposed Western, especially American crimes rather than Chinese ones. So basically, the U.S. Secretary of State Anthony Blinken sent the following tweet, and it coincided with a British court ruling that greenlights the extradition of Julian Assange to the United States. And he tweeted and said worldwide more than three weeks. 350 journalists are currently imprisoned from their work, including American journalist Austin Tice, who is detained in Syria. We must be relentless in shining a spotlight on attacks on journalists, demand accountability, and work to return the unjustly detained.
Starting point is 00:10:33 But the thing is, not Assange, the greatest citizen journalist ever, from what many people say, he's the one that's facing a maximum of 175 years in jail for espionage. and exposing such things as U.S. war crimes. So, you know, what this article is basically saying is, if Assange would have been a Chinese journalist, hacker, for example, he sure would have been languishing in a Chinese jail for a long time. But he would have been celebrated all around the West and headlined the Democracy Summit just held in Washington.
Starting point is 00:11:10 So what the South Chinese Morning Post is saying that if this guy would have done the same thing for Chinese, or for China, he would be held a hero from the United States, from the United Kingdom, from all the Western countries, because he allowed a platform and had methods of calling out a government, a dictatorship, what the West calls it, as an unjust, unfair government. That is either tyrannical dictatorship, which they are in many cases.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Right. But they're just making a point of, this guy would have been a damn hero. Yeah, he'd been a hero if he was calling out, you know, people of China. Yes. And the funny thing is about this article is, you know, I typically try to find, you know, with journalism just all at an all-time low, I do like to look at other perspectives, especially from China, South China Morning Post, you know, and this is a big, big, big paper. South China Morning Post is like the New York Times over there. But it's funny.
Starting point is 00:12:14 they make a good point in that. I mean, it is a great point that, you know, if it was somebody over there, they would be heroes. But since it's over here, they're going to jail for the rest of their life and they're going to be like, you know, in prison and solitary confinement and whatever else they want to do to them. Yeah. So what did WikiLeaks essentially do? Let's talk about that for a minute. WikiLeaks and Julian Assange and his network of basically an outlet for people that wanted to either whistleblow or whatever and they would provide documents.
Starting point is 00:12:54 They would provide all these things to WikiLeaks. And to be honest, and this is something I worry a lot about Project Veritas on is because, you know, James O'Keefe and Project Veritas, I understand. And this is the essential part of this podcast. Julian Assange and people like him are essential for the safety and the well-being of mankind against powerful government. And tyranny. Yes. I mean, you have to have people like him, people like Snowden.
Starting point is 00:13:29 To call him out. People like James O'Keefe. That puts these things in the headlines and makes people aware of what's really going on. Exactly, because if it weren't for these people, we would not be aware of anything. Yeah, no, you're right. And, yeah, and so, you know, you have Edward Snowden, you have James O'Keefe. Now, James O'Keefe, yet with Project Veritas, he's been the guy, and Project Veritas has been undercover in many situations. CNN.
Starting point is 00:13:56 They're doing a lot of undercover stuff with Pfizer and, and Moderna and, you know, just these pharmaceutical companies that are coming out. with these vaccines. And so they're exposing a lot of truth up under the veil of, you know, wannabe tyranny, I guess. And medical tyranny, government tyranny, the works. And so Julian Assange, though, is, you know, he's, you already see what they're doing to him. I mean, even with the Biden daughter diary. Yeah. And we've tried to turn in. Yeah, we talked about it a little bit. Yeah. And we I didn't even heard anything since. Like, that's under the rug now. Yeah, because, I mean, the thing is, the FBI got what they wanted.
Starting point is 00:14:39 They basically called him out. They, the FBI with James O'Keefe, what they did was they used this diary thing that James O'Keefe tried to turn in and say, look, we don't need this because James O'Keefe knew. He's like, we don't know. We can't verify if this information in this diary is true. So we're going to try to do whatever we can to have a paper trail of turning this thing in. because we don't know if this stuff's true. And we know if we tamper with this or try to put a story on this. But it turns out, it didn't matter.
Starting point is 00:15:16 FBI came after him anyway. And they used this as an excuse. And by the way, this was about a, they were trying to accuse and investigate a stolen diary. Right. Which FBI has never got involved in the stolen diary. what it was is the government is using the FBI as their own police force. Well, really, Joe Biden, I guess.
Starting point is 00:15:39 No, Joe Biden, who the hell knows? Well, it's Joe Biden's daughter. So you don't normally use the government for your daughter. I know, but what I'm saying is that this diary thing, I think maybe they didn't know what was in the diary. And if it's his daughter, you know, whoever is controlling the Biden puppet in all these people, they're probably like, oh shit, what could it possibly have been in this diary? You know, I guess. And so they were like, we got to get it back. Well, I think the government knew what was in that diary.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Well, no, I don't know if they did. But you have to understand when Biden and people like him is in office and they're trying to do all this tyrannical shit, you don't want anything to come out of that diary. And James O'Keefe and Project Veritas has it. But what I'm saying is James O'Keefe hasn't even got to the level of exposing, you know, this type of stuff. Right. But the thing is, like, look at Snowden.
Starting point is 00:16:35 He exposed the fact that the government's spying on people. I mean, that's not that freaking horrible. But, you know, it's getting to the point with journalists that journalism is no longer going to be free. It's not free in a lot of places. Australia is locking down on it. UK. Canada, for sure. I mean, you look at the dictatorship and tyrannical communist countries like Cuba, for example.
Starting point is 00:16:59 when they blocked out the internet when these people were protesting. Australia is doing similar stuff. China already does that. So these other countries. But the United States, they're starting to go after people like Julian Assange. And these are not Julian Assange, but James O'Keefe. And they want to lower the bar of what, they want to make journalists fear for exposing truth. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:17:25 And fear for their lives and going in prison. Because the problem is, is that. that this is what they want to do with Julian Assange. They want to make an example of him, just like they're trying to do with James O'Keefe. For example, they want us to feel like us. Like if we get documents or we get a whistleblower come through our podcast or whatever the case is and we expose something,
Starting point is 00:17:47 they want us as people, you and I. To fear. To be like, well, I don't know if we should do that. Right. That's going to get us in a lot of shit. We're going to fear the government. Yes. And I don't think that that's the way the world should be.
Starting point is 00:17:58 We should not fear the government. because if you think about what the government's there, the government's there to protect and serve the people. Yeah, well, they're not anymore of them. Yeah. That's just it. They're not. And yeah, but that's what they're supposed to be there for. And they're not.
Starting point is 00:18:14 So what do WikiLeaks do and what did James Assange do? So he basically exposed, among other things, U.S. war crimes in Iraq, including assassinations and more than 15,000 unreported deaths of civilians. He exposed the torture of men and boys aged between 14 and 89 at Guantanamo. You know where at Guantanamo Bay is. That's where our little prison camp was. And much like, I don't know if you guys, you know, I don't know how like Australia and UK do it. I know we have listeners from everywhere. But like in the United States, you know, you'll see a veteran, you know, walking around.
Starting point is 00:18:47 And he'll have, you know, he'll have a either, you know, a lot of times they'll issue tags or they'll issue like specialized license. plates for your car, they'll issue hats or you can buy hats or whatever that say prisoner of war, P-O-I or P-O-W. And that's a hailed like hero in this country is a prisoner of war because you escape that awful torture because most of the time it is torture. And you know, one of the things the United States has always tried to act like is, oh my God, they're torturing people over there. We got to go bomb them or we got to go do this.
Starting point is 00:19:24 There's crimes against humanity. But one of the things Julian Assange kind of exposed was the fact that the United States, in some cases, is not that different. Right. They're doing it too. Yeah. And, you know, these are unreported deaths, torture of men and boys, the U.S. illegally spying on U.N. Secretary Generals and other diplomats. The CIA instigated military coup in Honduras in 2009 and the U.S. secret war on Yemen in which thousands have been killed so far. And so these are wars that we didn't know about. And don't forget the 2017 CIA plan to kidnap or assassinate Julian Assange. Now, he exposed this.
Starting point is 00:20:04 He had whistleblowers come forward. And the CIA wanted to kidnap and assassinate him. And that included risking a shootout in a busy street in London is what they wanted to do. They wanted to basically pose as thugs or whoever or someone against him. And they wanted to have a shootout in the middle of London to kill him. Yeah. If they can't bring him here to put them in jail. to have a suicide,
Starting point is 00:20:29 then they're going to go out there and do it. You know? Oh, my God. So the thing about it is, there's a guy named, what is the name, Galloway? He's a writer and says, if Julian Assange were a Chinese journalist and publisher,
Starting point is 00:20:45 he had had the Nobel Peace Prize. Be the centerpiece of Human Rights Day. And this week, his portrait would have been planted at top president Joe Biden's Democracy Summit. But the thing is, he said, if Chinese crimes rather than American crimes had been revealed by Assange, he would now be the poster boy for the Winter Olympics, boycott campaign. Every news bulletin today would lead with his fate. Every press still turning would be rolling out the outrage and the crushing of this butterfly on the will.
Starting point is 00:21:15 That's the thing about breaking a butterfly on the will. No one can hear it scream. And so they make a very, very good point here because this is true. It's something that It's And this is just weird Because our dogs are going Freaking Berserk right now
Starting point is 00:21:34 I mean they do that quite often No I mean like berserk Like this is just weird I wonder if I should go check on it No it's okay They'll shut up So anyways So you know Assange
Starting point is 00:21:45 Exposed a lot of stuff And You know And the thing is The fact that the CIA Which he also exposed And by whistleblowers And people said
Starting point is 00:21:54 look man you got to look out for your life and here's why and here's proof um and they really didn't like when he exposed it but i think the fact that he did expose the plot to kill him probably saved his life and so far now one of the things that they're one of the the reasons which you've we're we're going to get to his is his wife well his partner his partner so probably girlfriend or whatever well it's his you know partner yeah she's been a big part of of the assange thing and she's a lawyer She's a lawyer? Yeah, she's a lawyer. And so, you know, Julian Assange is someone that obviously still, well, at least the government of the United States feels like he still has information somewhere, somewhere that, you know, they're afraid of.
Starting point is 00:22:43 They are afraid of whatever information he may have. and the only reason they would literally go to the lengths of trying to have him killed, assassination plot. They're not going to do that just because, well, he exposed stuff, okay, whatever. Well, we're done with that. Just whatever. But I think they think they think that he has more information or that he was going to expose something more. Maybe he isn't.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Maybe he has no choice. Maybe he doesn't have anything, but they think he does. Yeah. You know, it's kind of what we went through. You know, they don't know what you have. So they, you know, they have to take precaution. Yeah. And so it was basically, so what's happened now?
Starting point is 00:23:23 So they've cleared a way for him to be extradited back to the United States. Well, before that, though, the judge, which was a woman judge, I can't remember her darn name right now. But she said that she was not going to allow that to happen because bringing him here would be so torturous. And putting him in solidarity, like confinement. it would cause like a suicide risk for him. So at first she was like, no, I'm not sending him. And then a couple days later, that was redacted, I guess, and they overruled it. And now they're saying he is competent and he's not a risk.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Because of the documentation, the U.S. has provided England saying what they're going to do when they bring them to, you know, United States. Yeah. So they're saying that basically he's not. going to be tortured he's going to be you know this is what we're doing and this is when his um partner still om morris spoke out and said you know even though they're saying this in the words even in their words is bullshit basically that they're not going to do that they're going to take him there and they're pretty much going to torture him in a way that he's going to want to commit
Starting point is 00:24:37 suicide and meanwhile talking about her while you're looking up whatever you're looking up um she has been in a relationship with him i think since 2011 they have two children together and they look like to be under 10 i don't know the ages of them but they've been together for a long time and you know she's just talking about what she's had to go through you know being with him like her mother's followed she's followed like they don't have a normal life and nor has julian had a normal life. Like he's really been in one way or another in prison since 2010. Even though he's not really in prison, but he is in prison. You know what I'm saying? Oh yeah. Like his life is under constant surveillance in all of his family. Yeah, I mean, many people say he's being tortured where he's been
Starting point is 00:25:32 in jail, you know, and you had looked up, you know, when we were looking this, like what's kind of been happening with him. He had rape allegations, right? Two girls in Sweden in like 2010. But I don't even know how that's possible. I mean, who knows. But so what happened with those cases is, you know, they were trying to try those cases. And, you know, obviously he wasn't in Sweden. And the more and more they were trying to go, the more weak the cases became. Well, and look, it's probably because, and we, I told you this earlier. You know, when you're trying to hold someone for something that many people probably agree with him on, I mean, I think this is something that I would hope that both sides of the political
Starting point is 00:26:18 parties can agree on, at least the people, you know, from Democrat and Republican, that someone like this, which, by the way, is not even a U.S. citizen, I believe. Yeah, he's from Australia. Australia, I believe. But this is something that many people agreed with. This is something I got pissed off at Trump for the fact that he couldn't pardon you know both Snowden and um and Assange because I mean look the reality is is that I understand that there are secrets
Starting point is 00:26:47 that governments have to maintain uh for national security but you know they also abuse that in order to do heinous shit around the world and not just around the world to our own people. Yeah to our own people
Starting point is 00:27:07 and people around the world to human beings that actually live and have a life and have feelings you can't just go to me I don't think you can just go and torture people and kill them for no reason. No but but I think what a lot of what happened and what he exposed in Guantanamo Abe of torturing I mean just really bad torture and stuff that you know we've always heard you know oh ISIS does or
Starting point is 00:27:33 These people do. Like water, what is it? Water. Well, waterboarding, but I think it goes well beyond that. I mean, I think that's stuff that, I think waterboarding, even though it's awful, I think it's not even close to probably as bad as it can be. Well, and you look at Julian, like, when we first started researching him, Chad, as he's, you're like, look him up.
Starting point is 00:27:54 And I looked him up. I'm like, the first article I read, it was he's a 50-year-old man. Yeah, 50-year-old. looks 80 and Chad's like well it's probably because he's been tortured this whole time you know he's not and he's also had a stroke within a year and stella morris his partner that they I think they were approved to get married and again they have two children but she said it's just you know all the bullshit back and forth for the last year if he's going to be extradited back to the United States or not because I think that he does not want to go to the United States
Starting point is 00:28:28 because, you know, not only are they going to try to put him in prison for the rest of his life, but they're going to torture him. And we are both U.S. citizens, Chad and I are. And I don't know about you, but I don't agree with it. And by the way, I think this is journalism. And I think what he did was journalism. I don't think it's espionage. It's not, you know, hurting our government by saying that we've tortured people.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Well, the problem with espionage and that whole, thing is that you're not going to have a fair trial regardless. Oh, no. I mean, you're, if you, you know, that's what, part of the reason he's been fighting extradition. He knows if you've heard of anyone or if you look up past espionage cases or any of this stuff, number one, you don't have the same rights you do in typical cases. You're pretty much screwed. You're not going to win no matter what.
Starting point is 00:29:20 It just isn't happening. Because, I mean, I think we've seen the way government is on the smaller scale of things and they manipulate and they lie and do all the shit. They don't even got to do this in this event. When you're in an espionage case, or he's accused of will face criminal charges, including breaking a spying law and considering to hack government computers, considering to hack government computers, it says, this is not something you're just going to walk away from.
Starting point is 00:29:47 You're going to be screwed. And more than likely, you probably won't live. And so Assange was also not permitted to attend the hearing in person, today. And this is when the United States, and this is pretty much the big news today, is that the United States won an appeal basically to extradite Julian from the UK to the United States to where he's now going to face charges. And like we said again, at first, that judge was saying, we're not taking him over there because he's at risk for suicide, but that was overturned by another judge of a higher court was overturned, saying that he can be expedited to the United States.
Starting point is 00:30:28 States. Yeah, they won the appeal so far. Well, now he's going to go and reappell now. Yeah, I guess. Which, if that's even possible, I don't even know. It seems like, you know, we'll see what happens. But, you know, there's a human rights group, amnesty International, said the charges are against Assange are politically motivated and should be dropped. It added that assurances that the U.S. has offered leave Mr. Assange at risk of ill treatment are inherently unreliable and should be rejected. and they're basically saying that he's a suicide risk.
Starting point is 00:31:02 The U.S. appeals came after London District Court judge ruled on January 4th that Assange should not be extradited because he would be likely commit suicide in U.S. prison or a.k.a. not commit suicide but be killed. The activist founded WikiLeaks in 2006 to publish news and classified and classified information provided by anonymous sources. But, you know, the thing is, is funny because the whistleblowers are technically, they have what's called the whistleblower protection. And whistleblowers in most cases, which technically is not Assange because Assange is not part of the government, he was someone that was allowing or receiving documents from anonymous sources, which also had these classified documents, quote unquote. And then he was publishing them. Right. And so he's not, but even in the event, the unfortunate part was, Julian. in was a figurehead. He was a person
Starting point is 00:32:00 that, you know, was in the spotlight. Yeah, well, in 2006, that's when he came out with this WikiLeaks and everybody was like, whoa, you know, everybody was like, you know, they wanted to see this stuff because I think we all deserve to see it. Yeah. But even then,
Starting point is 00:32:16 I mean, even when WikiLeaks was coming up and all this stuff, I remember the United States government and many media sources were talking about they were publishing all over the news. if you even looked at WikiLeaks, it was technically illegal. If you went to their website and this and that, I mean, they were trying to fear people in,
Starting point is 00:32:34 fear porn into people not looking at WikiLeaks because they felt like it was a crime to do so by looking at classified documents. And so the thing is that this is a major thing that I think that many people have just quit thinking about. And it's something that, you know, Julie Assange has been facing this shit for years now.
Starting point is 00:32:58 And he's not the only one. Yeah. I mean, you've got Edward Snowden. You've got, what was the other one? What was her name? Oh, yeah, the girl that was in jail with him. I can't remember her name either, but she's a blonde-headed girl. I can't remember her name.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Yeah, anyways. But there's a lot of them in jail for being journalists. Yeah. For reporting, they're going to jail in prison and basically being tortured for telling the truth. And again, I don't feel like they've exposed anything about our government or our military that can harm us in any way. All that's doing is harming the government for showing what they're actually doing to not innocent people, to any people. I don't care if they're innocent or not. You can't just torture people like that.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Yeah. You know, and it was even like I was reading a case, I can't remember which one it was, but it was in, I think Iraq, where. there were Apachi helicopters and going after people. And it was almost like they were playing a video game and just shooting down people and like laughing about it. And here's the thing. And that was a leak too. Yeah, well, here's the thing. I mean, you know, I, with Guantanamo Bay and a war and all this stuff, I mean, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:16 I understand that we have to have war tactics to find out information on on terrorist leaders and this and that and all this. But it starts at the very top of why we're even there to begin with. I get that, like, you know, Afghanistan and the terrorist groups and all that stuff, I understand. They're terrorist groups. And you got to take them down. But, like, you know, parts of me wonder about, you know, we've never done a podcast on 9-11, but, you know, there's a lot of stuff not right about 9-11. I absolutely feel like, yes, people did die. All those people died.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Oh, yeah. Those people are jumping out of buildings in the windows. We saw that. That's a fact. That's true. how it happened is what we don't know 100%. We don't know how it happened. We don't know necessarily 100%.
Starting point is 00:35:05 And listen, the reason for this is because our government, which is what part of Assange has exposed, this is not just Assange exposed the Yemen War that no one knew about, or the thousands and thousands and thousands of innocent lives that the United States has taken and not just necessarily on collateral damage. but in other corrupt ways.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Not just Yemen, but Qaddafi. The Qaddafi, that whole thing, where the United States media and everybody said that Gaddafi was gassing his people. They were gassing all these people. And literally, they would show images and videos of these people being gassed. And these were little kids under rubble that had like their faces just burn off basically. and they were dead and their lungs would burn and all this shit. And now there is a lot of information coming out that it was the actual United States
Starting point is 00:36:03 that a lot of people were saying did this. What they're saying is they think the United States did this. And these are like these are ex-military big guys that said, I think we kind of know that that whole gassing was the United States. It wasn't even Gaddafi. And these are innocent people in these cities and villages that just were dying. from gas. And that was our excuse to go in and do whatever the hell we wanted to do there.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Because that was a whole other thing. But that's kind of starting to be a little more well-known and all that stuff. Then you look at like our drone attacks and how many freaking innocent people are drones killed under Obama alone. I mean, it was insane amounts of people that, you know. And the thing is, like living in America, you sometimes forget the fact that, well, not me, but I think what the government has always tried to persuade or portray, I guess, is like, well, you're American and you're good, everybody else is bad.
Starting point is 00:37:05 So even if we have to kill thousands of innocent lives, it's okay. Just ignore that. But that's not true. I mean, think about if China attacked us and they're out, well, I know we killed a shit ton of people, but you know what? We got the government, which, by the way, like, could you imagine if China came in blew up tons of freaking people in the United States because of Biden. You know how pissed off I would be if I died?
Starting point is 00:37:29 Wherever I go, I'd be like, you got to be shit in me. They killed me because of Biden? Like, I can't even believe this shit. I'm going to go find this dude. Half of these people in China, they don't have a say in anything. They don't even get to watch the news. No, but they don't. I mean, and, well, they get to watch the news, but it's the news that is.
Starting point is 00:37:48 That is portrayed to them. That is orchestrated. And that's exactly, it's exactly what is how to do it. happening in the United States. I mean, exactly. That's why I like Fox News and Newsmax, I find it so funny when people, and by the way, Fox News is not perfect. And they, and Chris Wallace just left. And actually, I left a comment on somebody's shit the other day. And I said, it was last night or the night before, whenever. When I found out, I was like, oh, yeah, he's leaving for bigger, better things, quote unquote. You mean MSNBC? Yeah. And then this morning he saw he was going to CNN.
Starting point is 00:38:17 I'm like, shit, well, it's close enough. Because I mean, you know, Chris Wallace was not a For years. He was just separated from Fox. He was the Democrat, basically, in Fox. He was the liberal, the communist, the person that hated Trump and hated America. He's kind of like a Geraldo that were on steroids. Yeah, but the funny thing is Fox always made him out to almost be like the one that's the serious news reporter. He's the one that should be drilling the biggest piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Yeah. And he should be drilling the candidates. Yeah. Because he is like, you know, mutual or he's like. Oh, he's not though. Not mutual, but he was obvious. Unbiased, I guess. But he wasn't.
Starting point is 00:38:56 See, that's the thing. He wasn't. And everyone knew that. And everyone wanted his ass out. But the thing is about companies like Fox and Newsmax and OAN or whoever that company is, you know, there's not very many of those that fight the opposition or that fight the tyranny and fight the propagandist media, which is pretty much all the other media. And so I find it always funny that people say, oh, yeah, you must have heard that from Fox News. I'm like, dude, I mean, so what you're saying is is that if it's something against the agenda of the government
Starting point is 00:39:30 and now all of a sudden, I find it funny that in America, so many of these people used to hate the government because they felt like they were, you know, I don't know, they felt like the justice system was bad. They hated the justice system. They hated the way the government, you know, oppressed people and all this shit. Now all of a sudden these people love the government
Starting point is 00:39:49 and they think they're great and they fucking saved them and all this shit. It is mind-blowing how either dumb those people are or how great the government is at brainwashing people. I'm manipulating people. And I think it's both because I think the unfortunate part is we grew up trusting a media source. You know, that's where we got our news.
Starting point is 00:40:11 It started with telegrams. Well, I know, but it started with telegrams way back in the day, when they would issue a telegram. Yeah, and all this shit. And it would hit the. the damn whatever the the telegram and I don't know
Starting point is 00:40:27 how you call that besides that but then you had the newspapers and then you know so we've always grown up in a society where we get our news from a source and that source is just always been believed and then when it got to news media video where you're actually watching
Starting point is 00:40:43 you're a part of it you know back in a day the news sources were not as bad as they are oh no I mean well now it's just awful but nowadays you have to be like Fox people say oh they're just all about the right well
Starting point is 00:40:57 I don't know I mean I don't see it that way necessarily and I know we're getting a little off topic I do I say it a little bit but no that's not true because look the reason I say this is Tucker Carlson for example
Starting point is 00:41:12 Tucker Carlson Laura Ingram I mean yeah Ingram Hannity they have Democrats on all the time, including Democrats that are not crazy. You know, like Tulsi Gabbard, like people that, like the Democrats that are not crazy, they bring them on.
Starting point is 00:41:29 And by the way, these Democrats are not crazy because they believe in America. They love America. Tucker and all these people may not agree with everything they believe in, right? Whether it be abortion, whether it be all this other shit. But these people are not there to destruct America. And so they bring them on. They have them talk about what's going on. There's so many Democrats that are coming on these shows, Fox News and all this,
Starting point is 00:41:49 now they're saying this is screwed up what's happening. Oh, yeah. The other night, I can't remember who we were talking about, but they're like, this is not really going to be a war against Democrats and Republicans. There's going to be a war against Democrats and Democrats. The far left and the left is what a lot of people are predicting now, that the Democratic Party is like falling apart. And they're going in like two different divisions,
Starting point is 00:42:15 and that's where the war really is. It's not, you know. Yeah, no, I agree. But, you know, I mean, eventually, who knows what's going to happen with that? Because, I mean, eventually, I think you've got to have the two sides. Something's going to happen. I don't know what it's going to be. But getting back to Julian, I think that, you know, to me, I don't, I feel like he's a prisoner of war.
Starting point is 00:42:38 In my opinion. He's a prisoner of, not war, but a prisoner of journalism or a prisoner of, it is a war. It's a war on speech. Yeah. It's a war on speech. Like, I don't feel like he should be in jail right now. Well, that's the thing. We talked about us in numerous other podcasts to where, you know, we are in a war right now.
Starting point is 00:42:58 We've talked about this. We just don't realize it. Right. And we're probably in a war that is going to do more damage to our country and this world more than almost any war we've ever seen. I mean, that's what's crazy. And they're using COVID to do that. That's one of the big stories we want to really talk about and break and go through a big article. about and stuff very soon because there's so much information on this.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Right. But the thing is, is they're using all these things to create a war. Right. And then they're using, you know. Journalists. Well, yeah, I mean, number one, the First Amendment is a war on speech. You know, they want to get rid of guns because they know if they, in America, if they can get rid of guns, people don't have a way to protect themselves.
Starting point is 00:43:45 I mean, you look at Australia, you look at these places like that. all these other places, they have no way to protect themselves. But you look at all these things that are happening. Every single thing is happening. And I tag New World Order in the Julian Assange thing, because it does have something to do with Julian Assange. It has something to do with you have to silence the people that are going to speak the truth on what's really happening. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Like who the hell? I often think this, but damn it, I've said this many times. when I say I'm a patriot or I lean one way more so than the other, it's not because I care so much about this party, the Republican Party, or whatever. I'm more libertarian. We've talked about us before. I'm libertarian, and if you know what a libertarian means, it means less government, more about people.
Starting point is 00:44:32 And, you know, one of the things that I, if someone says, well, how do you classify a hero? Well, a hero, in my opinion, are people like the kid that stepped in and tried to go after to gunman in Michigan and he was a football player and died. You know why he's a hero? Because he put his self, he sacrificed his self for others. Right. And saved a lot of lives by doing so.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Firefighters, police officers. There's so many military. There's so many people that do this on a daily basis that are heroes. And that's your life, right? I mean, that's something you're willing to risk to help others to make sure. others live or or have a better life. Julian Assange, in my opinion, is no different. Yeah, he's a year.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Edward Snowden. I've always said this. Same thing. They knew, I mean, Julian Assange absolutely 100% knew what was coming to him. But he had, you know, you either live your whole life for, like, say you're 80 years old and you die and you look back on your life while I did this and that was cool and that was fun. That was fun. That was fun. That's fun.
Starting point is 00:45:42 But some people want to do more. Some people want to say and look back on their life, regardless of whatever the consequences may be, that they really put a dent in history. I mean, like, is there something I can do to make sure that something changes or something is better going forward or whatever? And, you know, that's Julianne Sondon. And he put his life on the line for this. He's done for forever. Yeah. Unless someone saves him.
Starting point is 00:46:09 And I don't see that happening. Well, just like his partner said, he's pretty much been in prison since 2000. And 10, like, his life has been over since then. And now it's getting worse. Yeah, and I find it funny that there's been outcries to Australia government to help Julian because he is a citizen of Australia. And Australia could technically step up. Oh, well, they're so screwed up right now. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:46:34 They don't even know which way is up and which way is down. Well, they, but look, the government doesn't want to help Julian because the Australian government is tyrannical. Yeah, exactly. They're so tyrannical. that they have people in prison camps pretty much for COVID. For non-vaccination. Yeah. And the thing is, if you think they wouldn't do this shit to him, if they did it for their government, they would have probably done worse.
Starting point is 00:46:55 I mean, and that's the reality. That is the reality we're living in in this world is. But this is a thing. It's almost like government against people. Because when I was looking like at all these news articles and I did watch some videos, I watched. It is government against people. Yeah, I watched videos in UK. I watch videos here.
Starting point is 00:47:15 It's all people with signs saying free, Julian, free him, free him. He should be a free man. Like everyone supports him except for the governments. And that's what's so sad is like it's not about what the free people of the world believe. It's what the government say is going to happen. But everyone that's not in the government, they're standing up for this man and saying that he deserves to be free. and they're not letting that happen no matter what.
Starting point is 00:47:45 And to me, it kind of looks to me it looks like, you know, United States governments are kind of assholes for trying to indict this guy or bring him back
Starting point is 00:47:55 so he can go to prison for another 100-something years. Let this guy go free and let him live his life and be with his two boys. But he's not going to do that. He was a journalist. I mean, they're not going to do that,
Starting point is 00:48:06 though, because look, I hate to say this and I hate to bring this up, but, you know, And like I said, it's one of the things I was pissed off at Trump for. There were Republicans and there were Democrats, both saying free Assange, free Snowden. And that's the thing. If we all as like Americans, for example, us Americans here in America, if we step back from our political divisiveness and just like what we believe in on either side and just looked at things such as people that do things for people, not just, it has nothing to do with whether you believe in abortion. whether you believe in this.
Starting point is 00:48:42 These are people like Assange and like Snowden and like all this. These are people that do things for people, for citizens of the state or of the United States. Or even the world. Well, yeah, I mean, but, you know, the thing is that United States has done so good for so long at hiding their bullshit. Yeah. But, I mean, or did they? Because you have to think, I think United States is one of the most powerful countries, if not the most powerful country in the world. I mean, technically.
Starting point is 00:49:13 And with that comes their ability to hide things the best of anybody. And they control more than what we know. Everybody around the world thinks America's free. Everybody around the world thinks media is not played. What? No, I'm agreeing with you. Yeah, everyone around the world thinks that we're free. Yeah, I'm rolling my eyes about it because we're really not.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Yeah, but the reality is, it's just evident in China. It's been for so long, but I think that's also because of what, America has always told us how oppressive they are. Right. Even Russia. But they, yeah, in Russia and all these. But we don't understand that we are controlled by media. We're controlled by tax. We're controlled by all of our laws.
Starting point is 00:49:53 There's more laws in the United States now than has ever been. There's more people in prisons and jails than ever been. And by the way, a lot of those people need to be in prison and jails. But there's also a lot of people that have been in prison and jails that never should have been in prison in jails for just stupid bullshit. But the
Starting point is 00:50:09 thing is, now we're getting into the realm in America of not just putting people in prison and jails for, you know, actual crimes, you're putting political prisoners in jail for shit. I mean, and January 6th is a great example. Yeah, it is. January 6th is a great example, whether people agree or disagree with whatever. I mean, the reality is, is that January 6 is not antitraxin. I mean, in reality, if you look at the Constitution of the United States and what it talks
Starting point is 00:50:41 about specifically about you to not allow your government to be tyrannical and to uh you know the government is to work for you not you work for the government and it's that is the way we are in america we are turned now we are it is an opposite thing we work for the government we work for the government even if even if you own land and we've talked about us for own property you paid for it just paid for you're still paying the government you got to pay taxes yeah and if you don't you lose it your car anything you own you got to pay taxes on it and if you don't you lose it you You can't just ever own anything. You can't.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Nope. And people feel like, oh, I own this. No, you don't. You don't want shit. You can't really live in the wilderness for free. As long as you own the land, you're paying taxes on it. Yeah. Or they're going to give it away to somebody else and put it on an auction.
Starting point is 00:51:27 And you wonder why there's so many homeless. There's so many people that just give up. I mean, the way this system is, and I had to say, I mean, I am absolutely pro law enforcement and all that stuff, pro justice. But I also understand that one charge on somebody's record can screw them for life. Oh, yeah. If you have a felony charge, it's hard to get a job. For anything.
Starting point is 00:51:51 For anything. You had too much weed. You had an ounce more than you should have a marijuana or anything. Just what a, just crazy. If you have any kind of felony, nobody wants to hire you no matter what. And, you know, that's not rehabilitating people that screwed up. It's not even rehabilitating. And we have a system of the United States that punishes forever.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Yeah, they punish people for getting in trouble forever. And you cannot ever get past that and have a life of normalcy. But I also think it's one of those things that we have to see now. I mean, with the Colorado Ridinghouse case and everything else, we have to see that. And we should see this. But it's not about prosecutors are no longer about finding the truth and making sure that we're prosecuting right people. It's not. It's about can I win this case?
Starting point is 00:52:37 Exactly. I will do anything. I will lie, I will hide evidence, I will do whatever it takes. And that is a fucking major issue. It is. But everything is now political, the January 6th thing. Although, yes, people should not have went in the Capitol building and done that shit. Even if they're invited with red carpets, they still shouldn't have gone.
Starting point is 00:52:57 But if I was invited with a door open with a red carpet and come on in, come on in. Yeah, the red carpet's always in there. But yes, but they, you know, the videos that the governments, not releasing are all the cameras of the officers letting these people in. Not even having to beat the door now. But we saw those videos. Yeah. Not, well, some of that.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Oh, probably from WikiLeaks. One or two we've seen. How much you want to bet came from WikiLeaks? But one or two of those we've seen. But what I'm saying is you'll see, you'll, there's a couple of videos, you'll see just people walking through the lobby. Now, there are people that just did some stupid shit. And, I mean, all of them technically that kind of went in.
Starting point is 00:53:35 They should have known. But at the same time, uh, these people, These doors were being opened by these officers. The gates were being pulled back. By the way, these gates, when this shit first happened, they didn't break the gates down. There is evident videos everywhere that these officers are pulling the gates back for them. They weren't pushing on the gates.
Starting point is 00:53:53 They weren't pushing on the gates. They weren't doing any of that. These officers are pulling the gates back. These metal fences things, these temporary metal fences. They were pulling it back and they were just, you know, saying, come on in. Come on. And they were even waving them in.
Starting point is 00:54:09 So this is what the problem is, is that this was a setup. It was a massive setup. They knew that something was going to happen. They had provocateurs in the crowd. They kind of guided everyone down there, these provocateurs, and they made sure they went in this office. Because now all these people that are in there, these Trump supporters, are just, they've been held without bail. Who knows how long these people are going to get? Well, it's over 100-something days right now.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Yeah, but like some of them are like the guy that they're calling the QAnon shaman, the guy with the horns. Yeah, he's, I think, got sentenced to four or five years in prison. Meanwhile, you know, you think about the riots that happened prior to this. And these people burning down police stations. Yeah, they were in and out with nothing. Yeah. I mean, it's unless maybe. Yeah, burning down federal buildings.
Starting point is 00:55:01 Yeah, federal courthouses and shit. Yeah. Burning them down. With officers in them. I mean, they burnt down whole police precincts. Yeah. I mean, and this is why when this shit didn't even, nothing happened with this, this is why cops are quitting at a massive scale. We have a big issue.
Starting point is 00:55:17 We have a big issue in this country. But it's the freedom of information that is no longer free. It's no longer freedom. There is no freedom. It's just like FOIA request, which is a huge thing in the United States that you are allowed and legally and able to obtain information by a Freedom of Information Act from your government, local cities. state or federal entity. Nowadays, you don't get that shit. You know, for example, Kyle Rittenhouse in his case,
Starting point is 00:55:47 they FOIA requested the FBI drone footage to HD. Never got it. Probably never will. During the whole trial. Yeah, and they couldn't get it. There's so many cases where you'll FOIA request. And in some cases, FOIA requests cost a shit ton of money, too. I mean, it can be a lot of money to even get a FOIA. But do you not think that's criminal in a way?
Starting point is 00:56:07 not giving the request when you know you have it. Well, it's criminal, but Sherry, there's so much in this, in this, I mean, there's so much criminals happening in our government. Yeah, but it's the government being the criminals. Like, for example, I saw that Trump's Mike Meadows or whoever it was. Yeah. Just got held in contempt for January 6th. Yeah, I saw that.
Starting point is 00:56:30 And it's shit like this. This is a political committee. This is a committee that wants to try to get to Trump to screw him. over because 2024 elections come in they're going to do everything they can to try to screw everybody over there. It's all political. It's a political fucking war and this Julian
Starting point is 00:56:47 Assange thing. It goes with Julianne too. Well, yeah, it's the same thing is It's a political war. Well, it's a political war to say that you know, don't dare ever talk about what we do fucked up. You know, we can do it to y'all all day. But you're never going to expose our lies and our corruption and our bullshit. The problem here, guys, is that
Starting point is 00:57:05 we should have I guess at some point in time we as people voted random people in to rule us essentially I mean yeah that's what we do to vote people in is to rule us
Starting point is 00:57:21 yeah I mean like the mass population since a long time ago even well not not forever ago but when democracy happened you know democracy is supposedly so great but the reality is that we vote corrupt people in. I mean, and most people
Starting point is 00:57:39 that want to run for office, and I say most, not all, there are some good politicians, there are some good people in office, but most politicians that run for this office want power. I mean, that's why, by the way, so many managers in corporations and so many people in corporate America
Starting point is 00:57:55 that are managers or hold a manager position are dicks. It's because they want that power. They want it. They want to be assholes. And like, I've been a manager. I've been in management positions. And it's like if I'm not a big enough asshole according to corporate, then they don't like me.
Starting point is 00:58:13 You know what I mean? And that's something that is the same thing with government. If you can't be as corrupt as we are, then you're not going to last. It just ain't going to happen. Because you have to be corrupt because this system is built on corruptness. And if you can't be a part of this system, then you're not going to be a part of this system. if you can't be corrupt like we are and if you call out
Starting point is 00:58:38 our corrupt bullshit if you call out people that do corrupt things we're going to make it out like you are the one that has the issue and that's what's happening and I go back to the Bible one more time it's the good and the bad it's the nowadays in 2021 and in the end times
Starting point is 00:58:53 the good becomes bad and bad becomes good and that's what we're seeing so back to Julian I think you know what we can do like I think most people think like us if you're not in government. We think that this is a crime against humanity for this man. I feel like he should be free.
Starting point is 00:59:13 I don't think he should be in jail. He deserves to live his life. He was being a journalist and he came out with some like undercover stuff that America was doing that is not humane. He didn't like expose anything that hurt our government or our military or anything. or anything like that. No, and the funny thing is about this is that, you know, they're also charging him with conspiracy or his, what was it called?
Starting point is 00:59:44 He wanted to hack government computers. Yeah, he wanted to. Even though he didn't. Yeah, because they're calling him a hacker, even though he's not a hacker. But he's not. And the thing is, like, if you want to hold someone accountable for leaking classified documents, is whoever leaked them. Because obviously, obviously someone did, or they would accuse him of,
Starting point is 01:00:02 getting those documents hacking wise, right? But they haven't. And they can't connect those things. But unfortunately for Julian Assange unless someone becomes a savior for him, he's going to... Well, I think that's where it goes to the hashtag free Giuliana Assange.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Yeah, I know, but I'm saying us people are not going to be able to free him. It's going to take basically a president or... But, I mean, it's not even going to be a president. I mean, because that's not going to happen. They're not going to allow Biden for damn sure to do this. Oh, no, he already called him a digital terrorist.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Yeah, exactly. So Trump really didn't speak too much on him. He just kind of ignored the topic. But the thing is, man, is like, you know, they, no matter who you are, I guess, the main deep state government does, they're not going to let you just let off someone that is going to expose shit because then their lies and their bullshit and their corruptness is going to be at risk even more. And that's, and that's the essential it is. It has nothing to do with national security. No. What does it?
Starting point is 01:01:04 It has nothing to do with our, with our, where our nuclear warheads are. No. Like our technical information and, and, you know, it's all bullshit.
Starting point is 01:01:13 He exposed what we've done that probably are war crimes. I mean, they are probably crimes against humanity. I mean, from if you, if you read this stuff, it's crimes against humanity.
Starting point is 01:01:25 It is things that we accuse other countries of all the time. Right. And we're doing the same thing. It is, it is reasons we go to war. with other countries. So,
Starting point is 01:01:34 I don't know, man. Here's my prognosis on Julian. You know, they say, they keep saying he's going to kill himself. He comes to you and he's going to kill himself. And maybe they have a reason to believe that he will kill himself. Well, they don't want him extradited here. Well, and it's because that if...
Starting point is 01:01:52 His conditions are going to be way worse, I think. It's not even about that. It's because if you look at the espionage courts, you're done. There is no defense. You don't even really have a defense. Like, if you have to be, if you have to go to a court, a federal court on espionage charges or anything that shit, you are done, especially in the United States. They always talk shit about all this stuff, Julian Assange. It's just like whatever the hell the guy's name is from the Biden administration that talked about journalists and freedom and all this shit and locking journalists up around her.
Starting point is 01:02:25 Didn't mention Julian Assange because they're going to screw him over no matter what. I mean, they're going to put him under the earth. And, you know, and he probably won't last. I mean, because he knows, that's why he knows for a fact that his life is over if he gets to the United States. The only chance he has is over there. Somebody might let him go, something. And just like the rape thing, he got accused of rape twice. You know, I'm not saying he didn't do it, but, you know.
Starting point is 01:02:53 That was in 2010. But I also know the way CIA works. I mean, if they were planning on killing him. you know, they'll do whatever the hell it takes to make the people believe he's a bad person so that it's okay for them to screw him over the rest of his life because of what he did to them. And so we don't know. I mean, you can't just say, oh, well, it was accused of rape. Well, yeah, there's a lot of people accused of rape.
Starting point is 01:03:15 I mean, if you want someone's, you know. Well, but listen, if you want someone's, hold on, you want someone's reputation to go down. Exactly. But what I'm saying in the case in Sweden with the two rapes, they were trying. and trying and trying to try him with this, but the case got weaker and weaker and weaker. When your case is weaker, that means there's no case, which probably means that he's innocent.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Yeah, probably. But that's what I'm saying. I mean, they just wanted to paint an ugly picture of him. Exactly. And I'm sure someone, you know, I mean, it don't take much to get a couple girls and say you're to CIA or whoever. Hey, we're paying you $10,000, just go save, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 01:03:55 I mean, and by the way, you know, it'll dwindle. Don't worry, but we just want this on him. Like once you put rape on somebody, a rape accusation, that's going to stay with someone for however long, no matter whether they're ever convicted or not. If someone accuses someone of rape, unless you just have definitive proof they're lying, which a lot of times you don't, a lot of times they don't have proof that you did it. So it's like a word against a word. But if it's rape or if it's one of those things, it just puts an ugly, ugly picture on the whole situation. So final thoughts. Final thoughts on this Julian Assange thing is that I hope he needs to be freed.
Starting point is 01:04:35 I agree. He is a journalistic hero along with people like James O'Keefe and Snowden. And there's a few. There's not many. And I think the reason there's not many and the reason we're seeing a mass not only exodus of journalists go into private platforms, but also we're seeing a complete congruent. of what everyone you're seeing, everything you read, everything you watch on TV,
Starting point is 01:05:00 most everything is one thing. And it's because you either are that or you are not. And if you're not, you have no job, you have nothing, right? Unless you can go and do it on your own. And so they're making a clear line in the sand. You go against our agenda, you go against this propaganda
Starting point is 01:05:17 that we want to push every day, then you're on your own. Or you could be charged. You try to write a story against this government or some shit. I don't think people really realize this is, it's bad and I don't. Well, I don't think we should be scared to do that either.
Starting point is 01:05:31 I think that, you know, if people stand behind Jillian and do the hashtag free, you know, free Julian, what, I forgot. Damn. Assange. Assange. Sorry. Free Julian Assange. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:05:48 To me, it's like, what can we do to best help this man? Probably not anything. but our words on social media probably can help. You know, unfortunately, this is what I was... Probably not, but we can try. Well, this is what I was talking about, though. I mean, when in the hell did anyone think it was a great idea to just elect a bunch of fucking idiots to control the people?
Starting point is 01:06:12 I mean, that's literally essentially... Well, I don't think that's what happened. I think that we either elected them or they bullshitted getting elected. But what I'm saying is that it's just weird how the system works, I guess. It's weird how it works because you basically are saying, well, we want to vote for these people because they're going to... And that's, by the way, the entire reason the United States Constitution was created. It was created to the fact that if we elect these people, we have to have a way that we can protect the people against these people. because our founding fathers in the United States knew
Starting point is 01:06:53 that any time you give someone power, it can go bad. And it has went bad many times in history, but it is going worse now than maybe any time. And so that's the whole reason of the Constitution of the United States. That is the entire reason. And by the way, just because we're in the United States and it's not like we deserve to be free,
Starting point is 01:07:14 everyone around this world deserves to be free people. Yes. We all have humanitarian, or human rights, those are basic human rights. No government should ever control the people, ever. The government should only be there for infrastructure, for helping the people, for helping the country grow. And unfortunately, across the world right now, we're seeing the opposite.
Starting point is 01:07:36 They are hindering people. It's tyranny everywhere. They are taking more and more and more control. And that's why we the people have got to do something. Yeah, so, you know, when people say, oh, yeah, January 6th is awful. I cannot believe that. Man, fuck that. You know, the reason I say that is because, I mean, that was not an insurrection.
Starting point is 01:07:55 I mean, I don't know if people forgot history when the government tried to fucking control them or try to, like, you know, do whatever. But it went way worse than January 6th in history. Way worse. There was like major wars. Hey, just look at 1776. Look at the Civil War. Look at all this shit. That stuff doesn't happen.
Starting point is 01:08:14 People don't go to a capital building and push them doors open and whatever. and sit on someone's desk. That's not what the hell. And still somebody's computer. Yeah. That's not anything. That's, and yet we're literally, we have this committee and panel that is treating this like a 9-11 commission. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Or like a war. And which, by the way, the damn government also used 9-11 for the Patriot Act, which basically allows the government to spy on whoever they want. I know. And because they, just in case they're terrorists, we got to check them out. You know, now parents are terrorists. Man. And by the way, anyone playing the by the way drinking game, you're probably a little bit buzzed. It ain't by the way. What is it?
Starting point is 01:08:56 I don't know what it was. Oh, it should be by the way. No, it's not by the way. What was it? I can't remember. I don't know. But if you guys are playing by the way drinking, then it's, you're drunk, I guess, apparently. So you need to do the by the way game.
Starting point is 01:09:09 What was the other game? I don't know. I can't remember. But anyways, who knows? Here's the thing or something. Yeah. Here's the thing. But I think you need to do by the way drinking game.
Starting point is 01:09:18 if you want to be the best. I don't know. But I guess that's going to do it for this one. Yeah. And by the way, guys, if you want to see this guy, yeah, here's the thing. If you want Julian to help him do a hashtag or something or sign a, sign something, I don't know. Do something. I mean, we're doing something just to bring light to it, at least from the perspective of why he's.
Starting point is 01:09:45 Look, he's in prison because he exposed the. truth behind the lies of a government, one of the most powerful governments in the world. Yep. And so, you know, the one thing that people do have in this country still is weapons to protect themselves for now. And if the day ever comes, that they try to pass this weapon, you know, if they try to get rid of weapons, like they forced everyone into vaccinations. I mean, it worries me for this country about the weapons thing.
Starting point is 01:10:13 Because it worries me because so many people were willing to. not only just accept mandates and all this shit, but what if people just accept giving their guns up? I mean, I just, I think that everybody always believes Americans are strong and all this. I think a lot of Americans are not very strong. I think a lot of Americans... I don't know. I don't see a lot of Americans giving up weapons when they are asked to by the government.
Starting point is 01:10:39 I also see people that I didn't ever believe would just be buying into some of the shit they are right now that are. But they might be buying into it because they are. against, you know, certain politicians. No. No, I'm talking about, I'm talking about, no, I'm talking about, I'm specifically talking about somebody, but I'm just saying. I'm not going to say it, but if you're listening, you know who the hell you are. I don't know who you're talking about, whatever.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Anyways, it's all good. And someone had COVID before. I still got a vaccine. It blows my mind. But anyways, it is what it is. We will leave it there. We're going to actually end this podcast with, never mind, let's break up again by Lainey because,
Starting point is 01:11:18 I didn't get another song ready. And they're awesome. Amazing. We'll play the whole thing this time. Yeah. If you guys like them, go look them up. That's our like a favorite, our favorite group. Tell them,
Starting point is 01:11:28 Investing Earth podcast, aren't you? Yeah, they're awesome. I love them. Go do it on their songs. Like my favorite. But guys, have a great night. Our next podcast is probably going to be about the Russian, the United States conflict. That's a big thing.
Starting point is 01:11:41 Ukraine thing. And the United States, too, because, I mean, we have morons in our government are talking about striking them with a nuclear. warhead, I mean, over a Ukraine. Like, it's nuts. I mean, but it is, you know, I mean, we shouldn't expect anything less. Well, you know what? Talking about, like,
Starting point is 01:11:58 freedoms and no freedoms, Ukraine is one of those people that they're being dictated. So, we'll see. Yeah, but, you know, the United States government just once again, they're like, look, we'll just, can we just send a nuclear war somewhere? Because, like, our country's going, everything's going so fucked up.
Starting point is 01:12:14 We have to send a nuclear war it somewhere. We've got to get the attention off of this dumbass. Yeah. And then some of the radiation is going to travel and fuck us up. Well, it'll be a while, though. If it hits Russia, it'll be a little while. It'll be California first. Another reason I'll tell you to move out of California.
Starting point is 01:12:28 Besides the high taxes and the dictatorship and tyranny and all this other bullshit. You're going to have radiation soon. Yeah. Yeah, you're exactly right. Well, guys, thank you so much for listening to another Investing Earth podcast. And until next time, which will probably be tomorrow night, we love you. And bye-bye now. Bye-bye now.
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