Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Kyle Rittenhouse Trial | Kyle Rittenhouse Testimony | Conspiracy Podcasts

Episode Date: November 11, 2021

Today, Kyle Rittenhouse testified before the jury citing his right to self defense as the reason for his actions. The prosecution overstepped their boundaries and tried to sway the jurors by illegally bringing to light information protected by our constitution. This is the Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Conspiracy Podcast

And welcome to Investigator with podcast. I'm your host, Chad, alongside my wife, Sherry. Say hello, Sherry. Hey, guys. How are you? So, tonight's podcast is going to be about the Kyle Rittinghouse trial and everything that happened in his testimony today. It is November the 10th, 2021, only three days until my birthday.

I'm getting older. But you know what? I'm at least glad I'm still alive. So got to be happy about that. That today we're going to talk about or tonight we're going to talk about what happened in the Kyle Riddinghouse testimony, how the prosecution examined Kyle Riddinghouse, what the defense's position was. And one very important thing that happened in today's case, which was the fact that the prosecution decided to completely ignore and disobey constitutional law, the law of Wisconsin, and the judge's orders. And they did this purposely to admit evidence that was not supposed to be admitted. and it's not even evidence to admit a theory or a belief towards the jury

that was never supposed to ever be heard by the jury and that is because it is protected by the Constitution and they did it anyway. So that's what we're going to talk about. And guys, for those of you that listened, because we were just live a minute ago, Sherry did say the name of our platform again. So we had to stop that and restart

because we are not ready for people to join a platform just yet. So we had to stop the live stream and restart the live stream. This is the second night in a row that Sherry said our podcast name pretty much. Well, sorry. Maybe it's because it's excitement. I don't know, Chad. I don't do it on purpose. I know.

I get it. But I'm just saying we can't leave it up, obviously. We can't leave the podcast up until we're ready for the podcast to be released. No, the social media not podcast. I mean, the social media site to be released. So we do apologize if you guys were listening live. Hopefully you guys are still listening to us. Don't go sign up yet.

sorry. Yeah, or share doing that stuff. Because like I said, right now we're in the beta testing stage. We are inviting people that reach out to us on social media. We are inviting people that reach out to us via. Anyway, mostly social media. If you guys reach out to us on Facebook and say, hey, I want to be a part of the beta testing or I want to be some of the first members on the site, please do.

Go like our page on Facebook. And by the way, like the people that we have sent this to, which is very, very few right now. But the people that we have sent the new social media link to are people that reach out to us. They comment on our stuff. They like our pages. They have followed us. I mean, you know, they are part of the community.

Those are the people that want to do, you know, those are the people that we sent the invites to to join the site. And so for those of you that are interested in receiving early, like literally the next couple days, send us a message on Facebook. say you're interested in getting a profile in there, and we'll go from there. We were going to talk about our profile on Facebook, too, is why I was bringing my phone to you to show you that we are having issues already, because Chad pretty much mentions it on every podcast that we do, that at some point, you know, we're going to be hushed or banned or silence in some way, and within like two days of really getting our new social, media out there and testing it where we're testing it with like sending links back and forth from

Facebook to our our social media um i think facebook has caught wind and i think they're already starting to silence our page so i was gonna i brought this up for chad to kind of to read to you because he mentioned it to me he texted to me today and you know it's it's just a weird thing and guys yeah you can if you if you like or follow our facebook page you can go to our facebook page i posted these screenshots of what happened to our Facebook page today. Facebook has began the process, I believe, of trying to get rid of us completely. Now, the thing is, our Facebook page does not have a ton of followers because, and I get it. And I've always understood this.

I've always understood the fact that, you know, I listen to a lot of podcast that I don't go, I don't ever go to their social medias. I don't know why I don't. Even Joe Rogan, I mean, I listen to him a lot. and I don't think I like his Facebook page or any of his others of. Right. I just depend on his podcast to listen to him. Right.

And you depend on that little notification to tell you, but I don't think like podcast, do you get notifications. Yeah, you do. Oh, do you do. Well, Spotify, I don't get when Joe Rogan does, but I know that a lot of people have their notifications set up on whatever they listen to it on. But the thing is, I don't go to his thing, but also I don't go to his thing because he's not interactive with his community.

Joe says plain as day that he doesn't talk to his community. He doesn't read comments. He doesn't even interact. Well, it's not even that. He just don't interact with it whatsoever. Part of it is because when you interact with people and you read comments or you read reviews or ratings or anything else, you know, there's going to be great reviews and there's going to be bad ones. And a lot of people, even Joe Rogan, you know, they don't like to read it. Oh, Joe Rogan gets a lot.

You know what I mean? And we get bad comments. just based on whether it be people believe that our political belief is not theirs or whatever the case is or we say something on a podcast that they don't agree with. They'll go and rate us bad on Apple or whatever. I mean, that's just what's just what's happened. And so anyways, but for us, we do try to interact with our community. And so people that send us messages on social media anyways on Facebook, we do try to reach back to them. Because email, and I have responded to some of you on email, but, you know, email has, and we've said this a million times,

email is on everything that we post on any of the platform. So you guys are typically just easily able to click it and go and send us a message. But I'm telling you, go to our Facebook page for now for the next couple days. Until then, our new social media is where you guys are going to go to because I'm telling you this is going to be the new social media. If this is not the new freedom of speech social media, then I don't know what else could be. This thing is working flawlessly. It is smooth, not flawlessly yet, but it's very close. literally we have eight people on this social media right now

that are going through everything and trying everything and testing everything. And so we're just trying to make sure that everything is working properly from that stance. I don't believe we're going to have a problem with if 100,000 people show up, I don't think we're going to have a huge problem there. I don't think we're going to have a problem with bandwidth. I think it's just we've got to make sure that the process is correct. Now, the reason why we created social media, I've been working on this for so long,

is because of exactly what happened today. Now, what happened today on our social media is one of two things. I did share a couple of Facebook feed links to our new social media on the timeline, and it worked in the beginning, and then not long after that, I got a notification from one of our bandwidth host that Facebook had permanently blocked their links on our platform. And so I was like, oh, that's interesting. And so... And how do they even know what our platform is?

Well, I don't know. I guess they... I mean, I guess it's how like... Well, here's what I think it is. It's probably AI that figured out. No, I don't think that at all. You don't? No, no, no.

I think what happened is, is that Facebook is probably looking for other social media sites to pop up. They are. Because they know. They have to have that in their radar. And so does big tech, Google, YouTube, all of them. They have to have it in their radar. are because and then they have to evaluate what is the risk situation to them or to whatever their

agenda is based on that social media if it's some random ass person that creates some random ass social media that which by the way creating social media is not easy um and i mean i'm not bragging i'm not saying this but 90% of people can't create a social media i mean trump has had an issue and he's still going to have an issue um ours we're not going to have an issue no one's going to shut us down unless the government themselves comes in and arrests us which is definitely a possibility

I mean they got the FBI involved with Parlor when they came out for free speech but for us I think it was something that social media links probably go to some little group or big group in social media that if it's another type of social media link it goes to a manual review board

and they look and see what the situation is they might even have someone that figures out who was the creator of this. It's pretty easy to know who are creators because we've talked about our social media on our social media platform. Because they would be able to find it based on our links. And so I think if you look, if they look at our follower account, which they should be able to do, they're big tech, they can find out how many followers we had across everything. We got a lot of people. We now have over a million people across all of our platforms that,

follow us actively. And so is that a threat to them? Well, it's not maybe a threat to like take them down, but it could be. And at the very least, it's a threat to free speech. Because I mean, I know that a million people that follow us are not going to go, all of you are not going to go and sign up, probably. I mean, I hope you do. I really, really hope you do for just the cause and the purpose of it.

But even at 10%. That's still a lot of people getting together to be able to make change. or to be able to speak freely about what really goes on without anybody else being able to stop that, right? And so there's a threat. So it's either that, or I did post something about the Travis Scott concert, about the demonic, you know, basically the Astro World, Travis Scott concert being a sacrifice to Satan and that are eight people that died.

There's a lot of weird shit in that. When I first heard this, the reason we didn't post about it, because when you first hear it, it's like, man, there's no way in hell. Yeah, people just trampled each other and they died. But that's not true, though. Yeah, but that's what you heard on media. Yeah, it is. Which is another weird thing.

Why is media not saying how these people actually died? They're literally pushing this agenda and this thing that they died based on trampled. That they were jumping mates and trampling each other to get to the front of the stage is what the media says. And I have not, and I'm just saying that based on what I know because I have not looked into it. I know Chad has, but. From what I know, that's what I believe as what the media is telling me. Yeah. So now we have a, we have basically a restriction on our account.

It says we can't invite friends is what it says. But I think it's restricting us on many levels. But it says because this page went against our community standards, we've temporarily limited what actions you can take. And it's on our Facebook page. And it says your page, but when you click it, it says, you know, look at the restrictions. It says your page has no restrictions or violations. That's what it says, even though this message will not go away.

Then below here, at the same time, it popped up something that said a new regulation changes. When people share links from your publication, their posts will not appear as normal. Or your post will not appear in normal or their post, whatever. So if you guys share something on social media, whether it be a link from our website, whether it be a link from whatever, it's not going to appear as normal as it says, meaning either. Like a preview picture, it's just going to have a link. Or whatever. Yeah. Which is basically, and more than likely, it's also not even going to show your followers.

So that's probably what it's going to do. So then it says, this is due to the European Union Copyright Directive. So it says you can sign a waiver to opt out. So you hit sign waiver and it asks you what country you're in. Well, it doesn't even allow us to put United States as our country. Don't even give us that option. It don't give us an option to opt out. And it says a European Union waiver.

That's why. Yeah. It doesn't say anything about United States. Now, okay, so I thought about this too. I was like, well, we do have a lot of listeners from around the world. We have European listeners. We have whatever. And we have done some like podcasts about, you know, Australia and, you know, other countries.

But still, we operate in United States of America. Yeah. But either way, it's just weird how it all went down. And I think it's the beginning to the end for us on Facebook. I knew it wasn't probably going to last long. You know, and that's fine. I mean, we don't have a ton of followers. You know, I mean, we don't have on there because, like I said, Joe Rogan, I don't go to his thing.

I don't go follow Joe Rogan because, you know, I just expect to listen to him on the podcast. But, you know, it does help when you show your force on social media for a particular thing. And I understand and realize that. But that's also why we're creating our own social media. And I hope all of you guys understand this before we get into Kyle Rittenhouse, because we're going to in just a second. I hope you guys understand that this new social media that we have created is, in my opinion, and from what people that we have on there and have looked at it and tested it and everything else, I think it's better than Facebook.

I think it's better than Instagram. I think it's better than all that. I think it's smooth. I think it's a really good platform. And I think it could change the social media landscape. And unfortunately, I don't believe Trump is creating one, but I don't believe Trump's is going to do it. And I'll tell you why. Because Trump is using a entire source code that's already been sourced.

It has already been written. This code has already been written in whole by another developer. Even though it is open source, he is using this entire open source, and they are fighting him in court right now to not let him do it. Right. And I'm sure it's probably not even them. It's probably the government that has got them to do this. But also we have to say, and I think we should say,

is that I think the difference between ours, like on Facebook, I store all my pictures, my photo albums, everything on Facebook. I think ours is going to be a little bit different than that, right? Yeah, well, I mean, there's numerous ways, but the two main ways, the number one way is going to be different is we're never going to sell your data. We've talked about this in the last one, I guess. We're not going to store your data either. There's not going to be advertisers that are going to be able to come to us and say,

we want to target this particular type of people based on their likes and their things. and this because we're just not going to do that we're not doing it we're not going to invade your life based on what you do on the internet because that is exactly what we're trying to avoid that's besides freedom of speech we also want privacy and that's what the the social media companies don't do that we are doing we're going to make sure that we don't store your data we're going to make sure that you have a a privacy online just like you would in your own home you know and and yes obviously if you post things that you allow out there to the world people are going to be able to see those but that's not our responsibility to share all of your information that we gather from you

to other people for us to make money but then also the other thing is is um is what were you saying i'm sorry shit but that that's one big thing you went on a rampage of nothing that i just said no no i didn't i said that there's one thing that we do need to say that our our social media website will be different in is like on facebook you know we have unlimited storage of photos and and albums and memes and, you know, things like that. And not saying that you can share them or can't share them. Yeah, you can. But it's not a good place to store them is what I'm saying.

Yeah, our thing is going to be, we're going to do basically a picture wipe after so long because it's going to allow our cost to be down. You know, because look, the reality is that if we allow, if we have 10 million followers or 10 million members that sign up or 20 or 50 and say it goes to 100 in the beginning stage, say that we had even 10 million followers in the beginning stages. If we had to store everything that you guys want to post and upload and you want to transfer all everything from your Facebook to whatever, we just can't.

I mean, that's ridiculous amounts of money that you're talking about in storage that we don't have right now. But we are going to allow, even if we had a million people, we would allow people to post pictures and we would probably wipe those pictures after a week. Now, not your profile pictures, not your main pictures, and we're probably going to come up with some kind of like, you're going to have five pictures that are permanent, right?

Right. After that, everything you post in your timeline, all that shit, we're going to wipe. Not your text, but your images. So it's kind of almost like Snapchat, but it lasts a week rather than like 30 seconds. Yeah. Your text will always be there from what I think right now. But at the same time, that's what we're going to do because it's going to be the best way we can do it to serve you guys. And by the way, we're going to have a download option on everything.

So it's going to come down to you guys. If you like something that you see on Facebook or Facebook on our website. Don't say the name. I'm not. on our website, you're going to be able to download it and store it. Download that picture, yeah. Download this picture, download whatever. You'll even be able to download the post.

And you can put it in a folder. Yeah, and listen, like Google Drive, you have, like, tons of storage there. Like, that's where I store all my pictures now is. And I have, like, actual folders from, like, Google, Google Photos. Yeah. So. So that's all we got to say about that, guys. just we're going to be releasing this soon.

If you want to be a early on member and tester, send us a message on Facebook. Let us know that you want to do that. And we will send, and that's going to have to be in the next couple, two, three days because we're either going to release this this week or the very beginning of next week. Yeah, but we still have to figure out, like, details.

Like releasing it. Like, how are we going to do this based on memberships, based on advertisements? Yeah, we've got to figure out all that. I mean, but that's what I'm saying. saying if you guys sign up now go ahead and send us a message and you'll be one of the first ones in and uh and yeah so that's where we're at and for as now for now i mean it's free to you to sign up as as of right now yeah we just haven't figured out the details yet um all right so

let's get into the kyle riddinghouse trial and what we're here to talk about and the kyle riddinghouse trial has been a shitstorm and it's been a shit storm mainly because the The prosecution basically, I guess they think they make their own rules and their own laws and their own court or in their court. For those, I don't think we've talked about this, but there was a, there was the prosecution that was interviewing the lead detective on the case that took the case of Kyle Riddenhouse and everybody else. Right. Now, he was interviewing him and he, you know, this detective was, you know, going through everything that the prosecution was asking him. And then when the defense got up there And keep in mind, Gage Gross Courts, I think is his name

He is the guy that didn't get killed But he got his freaking arm almost shot off Because he was pointing a weapon His bicep, yeah At Kyle Rittenhouse while Kyle Rittenhouse was on the ground And so Gage They actually had a search warrant for his phone Now

Why they wanted it so bad? Obviously it's a big I mean, it's a huge detail in this case. But the police department did get a search warrant for his phone. And so instead of them serving the search warrant in a nationally televised, highly political, highly charged murder case of Kyle Rittinghouse, the prosecution, which is the same ones that are just completely moronic that are in this case, ask the detectives and told the detectives not to serve the search warrant, not. to execute it. And so the defense, when they got on, when they got up to interview the detective, they ask him, hey, did the prosecution ever tell you not to serve this search warrant on this cell phone? And they said, yes, they did. Number two, have you ever had a prosecution or a prosecution attorney or DA or anybody else ever tell you not to do that? Not to serve a search warrant in a case. And he said,

no, not to my knowledge. So that one statement is huge. Yeah, it is. And in the beginning, though, you know, I think the defense was making the case, like, do you work for the prosecution? No. Do you work for the defense? No. What is your job exactly? You know, we're here to investigate the crime and we are not biased one side or the other. So that is a valid point that they are non-biased and they're not just. trying to take sides, then why in the hell would you not go with this search warrant of a phone that's very important because this dude, Gage, he was like live streaming on his phone when all this.

I mean, he had like valuable footage, but the prosecution didn't want that to come out. Yeah, you're right. And the thing is, is that that one incident of them asking the detective and, you're right. him verifying that the prosecution attorneys said, do not serve this search warrant, should tell you everything you want to know about why this case was tried, what this case is all about, and the amount of corruption that is in this case,

it's all politically charged. You know, the media has a high stake in this case as well, because as soon as this happened, the media for months went on to say that Kyle Ridinghouse was a domestic terrorist, that he transferred his weapon, and across state lines, which we later found out that's not true whatsoever. Right. And just went around, like, showing off his gun and shooting people.

Literally, that's what the media wants people to believe. Like, go look it up for yourself. And another thing is, it's like I was talking to my mom today, right? And I asked my mom and said, hey, have you checked out the whole thing about Kyle Rittenhouse and the case? And she said, and by the way, mom watches news. Yeah. She watches the mainstream news. Yeah.

And she's pretty like up news. Well, yes, she is. With her news source. Yeah. She's not on Fox. She's not on the news sources that actually tell the truth. She's on ABC World News. Like Dateline.

Kind of things like that. So on and so forth. And so she knew nothing about Cowrini and else. She didn't know anything about this case. You know what she told me? You know what case she didn't know very well about? It was Ahmad Arbery, which was the black guy that got killed by the two white guys. The one that was jogging in the neighborhood.

Yeah. Now, I'm not saying that's not important. It is important. I do think that that is, I don't know the facts of the case, but it did look to me like that's, you know, they should probably go to jail for murder. That's just what it looks like to me. But I don't know the case of the bad. It's clearly not self-defense. Yeah, I mean, I don't know the case of that.

I haven't, you know, highly researched. But either way, all you hear about is the Mon Arbery. Yeah, that's what you hear about. That's like the top headlines with everything. Oh, and there's a serial. that's been found in like Kansas and Missouri area. That's a big headline right now. But I was literally telling Mom about Kyle Rittinghouse,

and she was literally thinking I was talking about a Montere Arbery case. And she was like, you don't believe that he did it? Or they, I think she said they did. I was like, wait, I was like, what the hell are you talking about? This is like 20 minutes later. And I was like, are you talking about the guy in Kenosha, Wisconsin, the white guy that, you know, had a gun? And no, I'm talking about that black guy that was down.

You know, I was like, no, this is not even running. I was like, Mom, do you know who Kyle Readinghouse is? No, I have not seen anything about that. Oh, isn't that interesting? I didn't really know anything about it until a couple weeks ago, to be honest. No. What do you mean? No, until.

Well, of course you knew about Kyle Reading House and everything happened, right? I don't remember it. No. Oh, my God. I don't. All I remember, like, with the Black Lives Matters riots were them burning down things. And you don't remember the guy that shot people. No, I don't.

I don't know. Where are you writing that one? I don't know, but I don't remember it. Media covered that shit for months. I don't remember it. I swear to God, I don't. Well, anyways, so yeah. Now I know about it.

Of course I do. And it's like, you know, now I'm like all into it. Well, the thing is, though, is that the media is not covering this for a reason. They're not covering it because if the media covers this trial and they have this trial on like they did the O.J. Simpson case or whatever, then the people, the mass population, if you covered on all the news sources, the late night news, the world news tonight and all that, they're going to realize that this is a straightforward case of self-defense. If they highlight the facts of the case, it is self-defense. But the reason they're not covered it is because if they highlight the facts of self-defense, there's not going to be an outcry and outrage if he gets acquitted. That's why. They want outright outrage.

Yeah, because they want riots. They don't want people to see what the truth was during the trial, right? Yeah. Yeah. And by the way, we're coming up to a new election cycle. We're coming up to 2022. And, you know, there's one thing that we have to understand is that there's always going to be something come election time. They're going to bring it up.

The Democrats are going to bring it up. This tyrannical government's going to bring it up. And in their mind, they're just trying to time this. They're trying to time it to where. they're like, okay, what can we use to start the process again of outrage, outcry, riots, and all this shit that we can divide the country completely again going into 2022 elections? And there's probably no better way to do it than this. I don't know.

They don't have to work that hard. But right now, like you said, they're not covering this on, you know, on media channels that most people watch. I know they're not. But it's because they've already covered it. Yeah. They covered it then. And yeah. And then I think they're waiting for the outcome, like you said.

And if the outcome is for Kyle and he's acquitted of all charges. They're going to go back to what they said in the beginning. Yeah. And it's going to be like a, it's going to be a whole other like protest riot BS. But it's not going to, it can't be based on Black Lives Manor. No, but it's, no, it will be. three people that were white. Yeah, white.

But I'm sure they'll still make it black lives matter somehow. And the thing is, wouldn't it be hilarious if Kyle gets acquitted and they start the riots again and Kyle's are right back out there with a fucking AR-15 again with a medical bag? They need, what are they call them Chad's and Cairns, right? No, Kyle's and Cairns or some shit. I don't know. I'm going to say Kyle's and Cairns because I don't like the Chad name. Yeah, well, we need more Kyle's. Or Chads.

Okay, well, we can say it like that. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But anyway. Yeah, that would be pretty funny. But I just, this is just like baffling, mind baffling to me, like why a trial is even going on and why we're spending so much money on this trial, a federal trial, based on this. It's ridiculous. Well, the reason that we're doing this, though, is because of the freaking fact that, that. Kyle Rittinghouse

defended himself. The reason we're doing this is because the FBI didn't choose. Well, they did choose. But they chose because, by the way, guys, everything that we, like, if you listen to our JFK podcast, or even though our MLK podcast,

I would admit, we didn't love it last night. Sorry. Yeah, we got to redo it. But we didn't delete it. So, guys, whatever, you can listen to or not. We're going to redo it, but at some point. But the, the, if you listen to like the MLK,

the JFK, any of our other podcasts, we talk about the government and corruption and FBI's corruption. If you listen to any of those things, and then you hear and find out that the evidence in this case, which clearly shows

what started this entire fiasco, this entire drama of Kyle Reddinghouse and him having to shoot people that were attacking him, it all started by Rosenbaum, which is the very first person that he encountered, was hiding behind a vehicle and waiting on Kyle. And when Kyle passed, and by the way, earlier in the night, Kyle had seen Mr. Rosenbaum.

And Mr. Rosenbaum said, motherfucker, if I catch you by yourself, I'm going to fucking kill you. Yeah, I'm going to kill you. Kyle knew that. He had threatened him like two or three times that night. Yeah. Yeah. Same guy. And so then as Kyle was going to this car source place location or whatever, that,

he had, you know, that someone had called him and said, hey, there's a fire there or whatever, can you get down there? Whatever the case may be. And even the whole damn thing, like how that whole thing just went down. I don't even know if there was a fire down there, but it almost just sounds like a big conspiracy to begin with. They wanted someone, a white person, carrying a gun, to be involved in something to where they had to defend their life.

I mean, I've thought about that. Because, I mean, we don't know how complex this shit is. Yeah, but his brain called him. I know. It's not his friend. He only knew this guy for 25 minutes. That was his friend, the black guy. Oh, was it?

Yeah. Okay, whatever. Not the black guy. It wasn't black guy. He was the white guy. I was saying his last name is black. Oh, okay. Whatever.

His best friend that used to date his sister is the one that called him and said, hey, you know, they're destroying cars. But were they really? Yeah, that's a good point, Chad. I don't know. I wonder, were cars destroyed? Were there? Well, there wasn't the first location, the car source.

Yeah. And then when he was trying to find the guy he was with, they ran down there. That's what started all this shit. Yeah. And he lost him. And that was at the gas station. Yeah. And then he ran that way.

And that's when this whole thing started. Yeah. And then he got the guy's fire extinguisher and asked them to come along with him and help him. And they said no. The whole thing, though, the weird thing to me is that he was not alone the entire night because he knew that like, and the prosecution kept saying, oh, why were you, why didn't you want to be along? Yeah. You knew this. You knew this is going to happen.

You knew these people were. were, you know, hostile. So you shouldn't have been by yourself ever. But why did you run down there by yourself? Well, it's because my friend called me and said, you know, blah, blah. Now, he did know that there were other people that were armed that was besides their group. Yeah, there were there. People in the white van that got out there earlier that night.

Yeah, and so he had assumed when... That they were still there. Whoever called him was at this other location. But they were, like, protecting the lot, and they wanted Kyle to put out the fires. That's what I've seen. Yeah. That's what I got out of it. So Kyle runs down there by himself.

And then he's like, oh. And, but the weird thing is, is this, this Mr. Rosenbaum, which had threatened Kyle earlier in the night saying that if I catch you alone, I'm going to kill you, motherfucker. And he also said. Was waiting behind a car, almost like an ambush. Yeah. So that's what doesn't make sense to me. Yeah.

Why was he waiting by a car? So Kyle runs by him. Yeah. He's running to take to, he's running to the location to put out the fires. Yeah. And he runs past him And that's where Okay first

It wasn't Rosenbaum first It was the other dude that had the pistol No Yeah yeah yeah And he was running and he basically was running out of options of where to run So this guy pulls a pistol on him And he backs up two steps No no no no no yeah yeah

No that's not the first one you're getting us confused Oh is that the second one? Yeah The first instance is when Kyle runs into this car source parking lot. This is what started all. Mr. Rosenbaum. Oh, yeah, that's right. Through his bag. Was hiding behind the cars. He waited for Kyle to run past Kyle when it went, yes, it's exactly the way it happened. When Kyle realized something else was going on, I think when Kyle realized that someone was chasing him from behind, he dropped the fire extinguisher and he started running in the parking lot

of the car source. As he was running in the parking lot, he looked back and realized that someone was chasing him. And he realized it was this Mr. Rosenbaum. Yeah, this is the point. This is the point. very beginning. Yeah, and this is the point where there was another guy that was in front of him had already pulled a gun on him. No. Yes. Sherry, I promise you, that's not sure. Chad, I will bet you a million dollars. No, I promise you. Sherry, listen, I'm not going to argue with you because I... I'm not good either, but... Listen, no one pulled a gun on Kyle until way down the road. I promise you, I, Sherry, no. Bet me now. Bet me. Sherry, don't argue, please. I know this for a fact. I know it for a fact. Okay, anyways. It's not true. The whole point of the prosecution's case tonight, Sherry,

was that the first time that anyone that Kyle ever even saw a weapon that entire night was after he shot Mr. Rosenbaum and he ran down the street trying to get away and this Mr. whatever the hell his name is. Gage. Gage. He was the second one that had a weapon,

Chad. No, the first one. No, second. He was way down... Who's the first one? The first one was during the first encounter. No, it wasn't. That's the same guy. Chad, go re-watch the trial. No, that's not true, though. You're wrong. I'm not. All right. You go decide because Sherry, Sherry's wrong.

I hate to say. No, I'm not. You can all tell me. No, listen, guys. The first time when he was running, he said he was running around. We're not going to argue, though. He was at the building. We're not going to argue, though.

Fine. We're not going to argue about it. They can go look it up, but they can go look it up. What we're saying is, is that in the car source parking lot, that's his whole defense, Chad. It's because somebody pulled a gun on him. No. And then the Rosenby guy.

You'll me tell you why you're wrong? Because his defense in the very first part is because Mr. Rosenbaum grabbed his weapon. Yes. There was no weapon involved. Before that, another dude pulled a gun on him. No, they didn't. Okay. There was never, never happened.

Y'all tell me if I'm wrong. I promise they will. Because the entire night started with Mr. Rosenbaum. That is when everything went wrong. Everything after that, the gun was after the fact. I promise you to God. We're not going to argue about this. He had two guns pulled on him that night.

Yes, no, he didn't. He had one. Yes, he did, too. Okay, whatever. But anyways, the point. is we're not arguing. The point is that I've watched this for three days in a row. They have been back and

forth with this about why he shot Mr. Rosenbaum because there was no weapons. There was nothing he was ever threatened with until this. There was no weapon pulled on Kyle until he ran down the street towards law enforcement. Yes. That's a hundred percent fact. So, the point

is, he ran through the cars and what, the reason he shot Mr. Rosenbaum was because Mr. Rosenbaum was because Mr. Rosenbaum was chasing him. No, Mr. Rosenbaum didn't have a gun. He threw a bag. No, I said he was chasing him and he grabbed his gun. Yes, he grabbed his gun. Yes. So then the prosecution tried to say, why didn't you stay around and render aid? Why didn't

you try to help Mr. Rosenbaum? You knew that he was probably dying. You could have saved him, but you did it. You didn't save him. But you know what? Kyle was like, look, uh, dude, I mean, there were people chanting, get him. get him. He said he wanted to go back and help him and he would have if there was not people chanting getting him, get him, get him, get him. Well, the reality is is that if Mr. Kyle Rittenhouse would have stayed around and tried to help this dude, there would have probably been more dead people.

Yeah. Because Kyle wasn't fucking around that night. He wasn't. I mean, Kyle was not going to let him leave in a body bag himself. And it was like the whole argument of the prosecution was literally trying to act. like your life don't matter and all these other people's lives do yeah he was like oh so you should have put their lives first so you cared about your safety before theirs yeah I mean that's literally what he was saying and I was like yeah I was like what in the hell of course you care about your safety

who would not care about their safety before a stranger's safety that you don't even know yeah so then it's funny because I actually saw something on the news today now if the prosecution kept pushing Kyle to say that he had told someone that he was 17. And I didn't understand it at the time during the trial because I don't know Wisconsin's law. Right. But they kept pushing him, well, you're 17 and you had this and you did this. And, you know, who did you tell? Did you not tell someone you were 17 years old?

Then they kept saying, and he's like, no, I did not. No one ever asked me. No one, no one ever, I never told anybody of that. And the reason for this is because in Wisconsin, you can lose your right to self-defense if you are an unlawful carrier of a weapon and so therefore

say a felon. This is really the real reason that they came up with this law. A felon that has a weapon and this would make sense but someone that say that is a felony someone and they had killed someone in the past

and now they have a weapon and you realize that this felon, a dangerous person to society, has a weapon, then it's not self-defense. Yeah, then if you kill them or attack them to try to stop the threat, which is them because they're unlawfully carrying a weapon and they're a threat, then you lose your right to self-defense. Right.

So they were trying to, the prosecution was trying to push. He was 17, which therefore was unlawfully carrying a weapon. Exactly. And therefore you lose your right to self-defense. But guess what? I didn't realize that. I know. But what's crazy is everyone that he had to put self-defense on were felons.

all of them were felons go look up their records yeah so just there was pet from pedophiles to and and two like suicidal one just got out of the hospital that tried to kill himself kill himself and then he's like you know right before he's like nigger kill me kill me I mean oh and

to me the trial today with Kyle on on the stand, I think he did a fabulous job because I'm just thinking if I was in his place trying to deal with all that, that would be a hard thing to do. And I think he did a really good job like telling the real story and the truth to the story, you know? Well, and just a touch on that, Anthony Huber, which was one of the ones that died, he was a convicted felon. He had assault and battery, domestic abuse, false imprisonment, and illegal weapon. and gauge gross courts, which was the guy that had the weapon that pointed at him, that he got shot in the arm, which who Sherry thinks turned up somewhere in the beginning of the story.

No, no, no, that's not him. There's another guy that pointed a weapon at him, but whatever. I don't know. But anyways, he was also a convicted felon. He had felony burglary, probation violation, and a legal weapon. And by the way, he had an illegal weapon not as well. He didn't have a concealed carry permit. And he shouldn't even had a weapon if he had a felony charge.

Although, you know, yeah, you're right. You're right. Exactly. So, yeah, exactly. That's the point is like you're a felon and that's a big time crime. You have a weapon as a felon. Right. And yet he has not been charged not one time.

That's bigger than carrying and concealed concerning. Yeah. You were a felon in possession of a firearm. Yeah, that's a big, big, big thing. Joseph Rosenbaum was a convicted felon. And he was a sex offender. He was a level three offender at that. And he was also charged with failure to maintain register status from what many people say that he had as much as five child sex predator crimes that he was charged with.

So, and this guy's walking the streets and out there saying nigger this and nigger this and nigger that. Yeah, and kill me, nigger. But the thing is, you know, that was not allowed to be in the trial. You know, the jurors are not allowed to know that this guy. Why he was in the hospital and what he was convicted of. Yeah. That he, you know, tried to screw children five times and that he was in the hospital and had a hospital bag from where he was just released for trying to kill himself. But, you know, the defense was trying to go after Kyle for some stupid shit about wearing a shirt after the fact or something. Yeah.

It's ridiculous. So, guys, what we want to play to you right now is, and by the way, if you guys have heard this or don't want to listen to it, Just fast forward 11 minutes because this will be about 11 minutes, but it's important because this is the judge going off on the prosecution. And let me set this up for you. The prosecution was interviewing Kyle. They were cross-examining Kyle because the defense has their turn now. Defense interviewed Kyle as soon as he stepped forward on the stand. And the prosecution decided to also cross-examine Kyle.

and one of the things that they did was they questioned his his his his his his fact that he remained silent up until this trial as far as um anything and so that's highly constitutionally protected uh your right to freedom or you're right to the fifth amendment silent uh yeah and and the fact that cow is even you know testifying in his own murder trial is it's highly risky it is highly risky because if you guys have watched the prosecution, examine Kyle, even knowing. And they did this. There's a reason why all day they were on Kyle because they wanted him to be tired.

They wanted him to not give a shit anymore and just say whatever they wanted to say. And they were even saying lies that were already proven. Yeah. These things were already proven by FBI drones. Yeah, but they wanted him to say it. Yeah, they wanted him to say it. So they would try to like, they would try to work him into. Yeah, and twist the questions around to make him have to say yes.

And I'm surprised at that shit. was even allowed. I know. It was, I mean, but I do feel like the judge has been pretty fair, but that prosecutor, like, he twist stuff to get what, he twist things to get the answers he wants. Yeah, so what we're going to hear right now. Hopefully the jury sees through that. I hope so, but you never know. It's all political. The jury's worried about their own livelihood after they leave this court. Yeah, I mean, like we were talking about in the last podcast, they're not even driving the cars to court. You know, they're getting missed. And they have machine gun freaking security details.

Yeah. I mean, this is the, this is the world we live in. Yeah. And if this motherfucker gets, if this hero, this patriot gets,

I shouldn't say motherfucker, sorry. Yeah, he is definitely not a motherfucker. If this hero and this patriot gets freaking convicted, like, I'm going to the streets. Don't even say it.

Because like, I'm sure we have, I'm going to peacefully protest the shit out of that. I am peacefully, peacefully protesting. But anyways, So here, if you guys don't want to listen to it, fast forward 11 minutes, but I think you should listen to it because I think this is very important. This is the judge.

First of all, the first person you hear talking is the defense, and this is their reason of why, what they're objecting to. And then you're going to hear basically from then on out the judge and the prosecution. And so I want you guys to hear this. Here it is. This is when the judge just completely goes off today and goes off the rails because of this bullshit. that they're trying to pull. And even the judge, if you listen to what he says, I don't know what you're up to.

It's almost like a conspiracy type thing. So I want you guys to listen to here it is. He knows he can't go into this. And he's asking the court to strongly admonish him. And the next time it happens, I'll be asking for a mistrial. Which is his defense. He's an experienced attorney and he knows better.

Mr. Finger? He's asking the prosecution. This was the subject of emotion. I'm well aware of that. and the court left the door open. For me, not for you. That's the judge. My understanding of...

You should have come and asked for reconsideration. You did on the one motion, and in fact, I granted your motion for reconsidering. That was not a motion. I... Excuse me. I did.

We did not move to reconsider. That was their motion. We have not filed any motions to reconsider in this case. That was their motion for reconsideration, which I denied. But I said, I denied it, or I indicated a bias towards denial is what I did. Held it open with a bias towards denial. Why would you think that that made it okay for you without any advance notice to bring this matter before the jury? You are already, you were, I was astonished when you began your examination by commenting on the defendant's post-arrest, silence.

That's basic law. It's been basic law in this country for 40 years, 50 years. I have no idea why you would do something like that. And it gives, well, I'll leave it at that. So I don't know what you're up to. May I respond? Yes. We filed another act's motion on this exact issue. And by the way, just to say this, when he was saying it gives the, never mind.

What he was saying is it gives the defense a reason for mistrial. And we're going to talk about why that is important here momentarily, but let's continue. In my mind, and I argued this, it is identical to what was going on on the night of August 25th, in the sense that the defendant was using this exact same weapon. He was using it in a manner to try and protect the property. No, he wasn't. Your Honor, with all due respect... I'm not going to rehash the motion.

That's absolutely untrue. No, no, no. Your arguments of record. My comments are of record, and why I ruled as I did is of record. There's nothing that I heard in this trial to suggest anything's changed. Even if you're correct in your assumption that you know more than I did at the time, you should have come to the court and say, I want to go into this. Why you would think that you could go into it without any advance notice to the court, I don't understand that. And as the defense has pointing out you're an experienced trial lawyer and this should not have been going into. Your Honor, there have been things in this case, testimony in this case that I believe opens the door to this. For example, the defense has introduced evidence that the defendant pointed a gun at a man wearing yellow pants because that person was on a car on the car source lot. Now, there's no justification that I can think of why the defendant would point that gun at someone. The defendant has just testified this morning that he agreed with that.

that person in the yellow pants that he pointed the gun at him. He said, I was joking when I said that to the guy in the yellow pants, but he said, he's acknowledged that he told the person in the yellow pants, yeah, you're right. I did point a gun at you when you were sitting on a car. He said, I did. That's what he said. Exactly.

So he's agreeing, may I finish, please? I'd like to have a chance to make a record if I could without being interrupted, if that's okay. He has mentioned that he's acknowledged that he's used this gun to protect property. He's also just acknowledged that he knows he can't do that. I am attempting to impeach him now with the prior August 10th incident, 15 days prior involving the same gun where he is threatening to use that gun to protect the property. It goes...

You didn't have a gun with it. Your Honor, he is saying he wished he did so he could shoot people. You know, there's a lot of difference between commenting about something when you haven't got a gun and threatening someone when you do. You know, it's interesting, Your Honor, Because the entire defense theory in this case is Joseph Rosenbaum, who was unarmed. You tell me what the defense theory of the case is. I want, look.

May I respond to what you just said, Your Honor? I'd like to respond to what you just said. I apologize, Madam Court Reporter, but I'd like to try and make a record without anyone interrupting me if that's okay. I believe that there is a central part of this case that Mr. Rosenbaum is making threats that he has no ability to carry out. So to your point, Your Honor, you're arguing that this August 10th incident, one aspect of why you don't believe it's relevant, is the defendant didn't have the gun with him. This case is about someone who didn't have a weapon, and yet the jury is being told because of those threats, that means the defendant has to defend himself. So with all due respect, Your Honor, mere verbal threats have already been shown to this jury and used as a basis for someone's subsequent actions. I am attempting with the defendant to use his mere verbal threat on August 10th, 15 days prior that he's going to shoot shoplifters with his AR-15 to impeach the defendant in a murder trial.

I would ask the court's forbearance to do that. I apologize, Your Honor. You're right. I probably should have brought this to your attention earlier. I may have misunderstood your ruling because I thought your ruling was if the evidence in this case made that more relevant, You would admit it or at least consider it's an admittance. I believe, based on the evidence that we've heard, and more specifically, exactly what the defendant said earlier, about admitting, pointing a gun at someone who is merely jumping or sitting on a car,

that the door is open now to this testimony. And I continue to believe that his state of mind, his intent, his belief is to self-defense, is the core of this case. That was the basis for my motion. You were strongly inclined against it. I understand that. But now we're in the middle of trial, and there's been a lot of evidence that's come in that I think makes this relevant.

So I'm attempting to impeach the defendant on his beliefs. I believe I'm entitled to impeach the defendant on his beliefs and on his statements. I'm going to interrupt you now, because you're talking about his beliefs. I think that's what they call his statements to your honor, because he just said, can't use deadly force, can't threaten to use deadly force. to protect property. So now I'm impeaching

him on that. Your Honor, here's the defense. The court has seen no reason to change its ruling. And just so this record is clear, insplight of the lengthy statement by Mr. Binger. Before we started today, the court specifically stated

in Mr. Binger's presence, there's been nothing to have me change any of my rulings. There have been numerous occasions during this trial where they've opened the door, The one time when they're going into Mr. Rosenbaum's prior, the reason he doesn't like guns. And I said something, I whispered in Mr. Krause's ear, it's because of the prior convictions.

Please stop. And he did. He knows if you're going to go into something that's been excluded in a pretrial order, you better ask the court, you better get permission. This is ridiculous. It wasn't excluded, right? You know why it was excluded in the first place? Because it was propensity evidence. that is exactly what 90404 is designed to prevent.

You're talking about his attitudes? His attitude is he wants to shoot people. Now, I've admitted that kind of evidence in other trials when it's been appropriate. I didn't admit it in this case because to me, what I've heard in this trial, and by the way, Mr. Richards absolutely correctly points out that just hours ago, I said I had heard nothing in this trial to change any of my rulings. So why? Testimony, Your Honor.

Pardon me? That was before the defense testimony. Don't get brazen with me. You knew very well. You know very well that an attorney can't go into these types of areas when the judge has already ruled without asking outside the presence of the jury to do so. So don't give me that. That's number one.

Number two. This is propensity evidence. I said at the time that I made my ruling, and I'll repeat again now for you, I see no similarity between talking about wishing you had your AR gun which you don't have so that you could take

fire rounds at these thought to be shoplifters and the incidents in these cases which are not there's nothing in your case that suggests the defendant was lying and wait to shoot at somebody or reflecting upon the shooting

for a vast amount of time every one of the incidents involves a matters that involves seconds in time so I don't I commented at the time I don't see the similarity and I don't see the similarity now if it's not

similar that's the whole rule those are all the exceptions to 90404 check the authorities weigmore in evidence Judge Weinstein Colonel McCorming it's the

the prior act has to bear the signature of the accused, or it has to be so similar as to suggest it's a common plan or something like that. You have an incident where he's making comments about some alleged shoplifters

versus crimes that involve instantaneous actions, whether premeditated murder or whether self-defense, that's for the jury to decide. But I don't, see the similarity. I said it couldn't come in and it isn't coming in. No matter what you think.

Number two, I have to be concerned that with what Mr. Richards has said about the progress of the trial, and when you were way, well, I said you were over the line close to or, or, well, over the line on commenting on the defendant's pretrial silence, which is a well-known rule. I'm astonished that that would have been an issue. So I don't want to have another issue as long as this case continues. Is that clear? It is. Thank you.

Ask the jury to come back in, please. And that's it. So I want to point out a couple things for those of you that heard that. One of the things on what he was saying is, is that, The prosecution was trying to make a case. There's two things here. Number one, they commented, number one, they commented on the fact that Kyle was silent pre-trial, meaning he had a right to be silent until he either testified or didn't.

Right. And that's the constitutional law. And you cannot introduce that to the jury. Yeah, but you cannot introduce that to the jury as a, I guess, as a ploy for guiltiness. Number one. Right.

Because it's constitutional law. You cannot use that to say that he's probably guilty or whatever the case is because he was silent. Number two, when the prosecution was trying to determine or say by bringing up a something that Kyle had either said or whatever based on a previous event that has nothing to do with this particular event, they were trying to bring into question his, you know, attitude, personality, demeanor, background, whatever it was in this case. Now, the defense tried to do this with the pedophile,

Mr. Rosenbaum or Hubert? No, no, no, Mr. Hubert, no. Yeah. One or the two. They tried to say, and they tried to bring in the court, which I think would be relevant because, you know, and the judge didn't allow it then. but they wanted to say why he was in the hospital that day.

He tried to kill himself. They wanted to bring in his criminal record, which was of child molestation. And they even probably wanted to bring in medications that he was on for bipolar and all this other shit. And they did get that in. And they did get it in because they're witness. Yeah. And the defense put the witness up there. So.

No, the prosecution, I mean, the prosecution put her up there. Yeah. And actually, they're the ones that they're the ones that got her to say that, you know, he was on all this medication for depression. Yeah. For bipolar. And bipolar and all this shit. and pretty much kind of alluded to the fact that he was in the hospital for something to do with that. For that.

For mental issues. Yeah. But the point is that they didn't allow the defense to bring that into court for the jury to hear. But yet this dude was going to fucking do it anyway. He just tried to slide by and do it regardless. But he's doing that, I think, on purpose. He really is. He really is.

He knows he's losing right now. There's no one that's going to say that a judge can, you know, tell a jury to disregard what someone said. And the judge has said this in this case. You're telling me to tell the jury not to hear something. He said, I understand people say that in cases, but that's bullshit. Yeah. I mean, this judge is not playing games. But just like the defendant attorney said, they feel like the prosecutor is doing this on

purpose, like putting this out there because they know they're losing the case. And since they know they're losing the case, they would rather have a mistrial and do it again than lose the case. Well, here's the thing about a mistrial. I think. So the defense did move for a mistrial today. And I'm not 100% sure on what, you know, how that works. But they did move for a mistrial to say that this is grounds for at least a mistrial. I don't know if the judge ruled on that or any of that stuff. No, the judge said he's going to keep it going. he's going to determine it after or whatever. Yeah. But the thing is, is that the bad thing about a mistrial for the prosecution is that, you know, the reality is, is that the FBI drone video showing Kyle Ridenhouse being chased.

And basically show, because the whole narrative of this case why he was prosecuted for a large part was the fact that the media narrative. No, the media narrative and everything said he was chasing Mr. Rosenbaum, I believe. Yeah, he was chasing him down and shooting him down. Yes. That was the media narrative. That's the public sentiment. That's what everybody believes because of the media. And it clearly shows that's not what happened.

And the FBI refused to release that drug video until after the fact. Yeah, and now it's in evidence. So they're kind of freaking screwed. And I hope there's an investigation into this because they're withholding, I think it's a sculptory evidence, which means to exonerate you from the very beginning to where you can't even press charges. The FBI withheld this. They withheld it on purpose. There is no question about that.

They withheld this on purpose so that he would be prosecuted. And I'm sure they encouraged the prosecution. I'm sure they probably even forced the prosecution. And it goes back to the like, why didn't you go with the search warrant? Why didn't you do this? Why didn't you do that? Oh, the prosecutor told me not to do it. Yeah.

I mean, they literally said it on the stand. They're so freaking crooked. And then so today, I'll give another example. But I think the defense was also saying that prosecutors are kind of doing this on purpose. No, but there wouldn't be a reason. They're losing the case and they know it. Yeah. So maybe, yeah.

So maybe they want, you know, a brand new jury. That's very possible. I mean, you know, and the reality is that they're probably, they're wanting another chance with a new jury based on they know they fuck this up. But at the same time is that how does that? I mean, I know the prosecution can still prosecute, even with the evidence the FBI withheld. Right. But it's just like, how are you going to prosecute? But even the first three days, Chad, the prosecutor, when he was interviewing all the witnesses or the people on the stand,

they were making a case more for the defense than they were for their own prosecution. Like I was like, okay, where are you going with this? Oh, yeah. Yeah, you're telling it the way it was. You know, it's almost like they were working for the defense. defense. Like, I don't even know if they realized they were doing that, but they did. Like, they were so stupid.

Honestly. Like, and he thought he was doing such a good job with his, you know, the way he's slow and mythogic or whatever. Pathetical, yeah. He's like, oh, you know. But he was proving the case of the

defendant most of the time. No, I mean, it's true. And so, you know, gauge gross courts. I want to say this. Gage hears courts when the defense interviewed him and he basically said what happened.

Now today, if you guys know about what happened today in the trial, the prosecution, what they were grilling, Kyle Readinghouse on was Gage's Gaines' Gorse's courts, which was the guy that had the gun. He was the guy that was coming towards Kyle. And they were trying to basically say that Kyle was pointing a weapon to him first

and Gage Ghost Courts was not pointing a weapon ever at Kyle. They lied, even knowing that earlier in the trial yesterday, Gage Gorge Court said this. And so we're going to play that little bit right here. And they did show like videos of him running down the street chasing Kyle with the gun in his back pocket. And you can see him taking the gun out as he's chasing him. Yeah.

So listen to what defense says. This is very short. It's 40 seconds. But listen, this was the defense interview or examining Gage Gors courts. And meanwhile, this is the guy, hold on. I just want to say, meanwhile, Gage is trying to sue this city for, what? $10 million. $10 million.

But anyways. So this Gage Ghost Quartz was the guy when Kyle fell down after the first guy he killed. He was running down the street. He fell down. He had, I think, shot someone else that was trying to attack him with a skateboard. And then this Gage Gerskorts guy, which has a weapon illegally, by the way. He's a felon. And this is a guy we're talking about.

This guy comes in with a weapon. And the whole prosecution narrative today towards Kyle was that Gage Grosscourts never pointed a weapon at Kyle. And Kyle shot him just indiscriminately. And so this was the defense interviewing him. And this is his response to their question. Here you go. Oh, wait a minute. Just put it on pause real quick.

And the defense was asking, why did you not give them first aid after you shot them? Like, I'm like, oh my God. Are you serious? All right. Now play it. All right, here you go. All right. All right, sir.

It wasn't until you pointed your gun at him, advanced on him with your gun, now your hands down pointed at him. And he fired. And there you go. He said it wasn't until you were pointing the weapon at Kyle that he shot you. And he said, correct? Correct. Correct. Because they had pictures and videos in front of the guy and there was no way he could lie on the stand because it was right in front of his face.

Yeah. Like it's ridiculous. Like this dude did try to lie a lot about what happened. Oh yeah. No, he didn't try. He did. He lied. Well, yeah.

He lied. But when they, yeah. But when they had the video, the actual, I'm sorry. That when they had the actual videos in the recordings, there was no way he could lie. Yeah. But, okay. And one of the last things I'll say is that the FBI drone video shows exactly what happened. It's from an FBI drone video.

They pointed out the targets in circles. It was a green, purple, and I think, I don't know, white circle. It shows Kyle. It shows Rosenbaum and it shows the other guy. The girl. Whoever. And so this was a proven statement. It was a proven video.

They, without a doubt, said this is the sequence of events. Right. They all agreed. They tried to disprove this. They tried to disprove this from the beginning. But then they brought in new drone video, this amateur drone video of what happened. And they tried to use and manipulate what happened in this video. They reversed the video.

Do you remember? Although Kyle held true to what he was saying. And what happened? Because you can see at the very end when Kyle shoots Mr. Rosenbaum. Mr. Rosenbaum was charging towards him. And he had his hand on the barrel and was trying to, which what Kyle said, if he would have took my weapon, he would have killed me. Right. And he probably would have.

Because he'd already threatened it earlier. Right. And do you think, okay, put yourself in his position right now. If somebody already threatened you with your life and you're being chased down by this guy and you're just trying to get away from him and then you're in a confrontation with this guy and he's grabbing your gun, Chad. What would you do? Oh, shoot him. So with police officers, by the way. Because, you know, when police officers get exonerated or they, say when an internal investigation or a state law enforcement agency investigates

an officer involves shooting and they determine whether it be body cam or dash cam or whatever video they have and it shows actively that the suspect is going for the weapon of the officer and the officer then uses the weapon to kill the suspect even though the suspect is unarmed it is a grounds for self-defense it is a grounds for the officer to be able to shoot the suspect because if and by the way we've talked about this before

there has been many suspects that were unarmed that then overpowered the officer to take his weapon and kill him. Right. That's why in Law Enforcement Academy and firearms training, especially if you're in a, if you're in the profession of law enforcement or being around people that are hostile, man, there is so much training on if you are armed, number one, you have to protect your firearm. Right. And number two, it's even not just with law enforcement. If you are a firearm carrier and a firearm, which, by the way, everyone has the right to carry and possess a firearm. Even if you're not 18 or, yeah, really, it is an amendment. You can carry a weapon.

Well, legally, no. I mean, you can carry a, you know, like some states have the 16 plus rule. You've got to have an ID and all this shit, even though I believe that's a, that's stepping on the Constitution alone. Okay. What happens to these kids that are like 10 years old? That shoot weapons. Yeah, they don't own them. When a burglar comes in their house or a murderer comes in their house and they shoot them.

Are they going to arrest them? No, but listen. But listen. So the point is that, you know, the thing is, is that he had the weapon, which I kind of forgot my point again. Sorry. But he had the weapon. He was, you know, using a weapon to protect himself. And, God damn, I literally forgot what I was saying because.

Because I changed the subject. Yeah, you did. Sorry. Well, what you're saying is he had the weapon on him, but he wasn't necessarily using the weapon to protect himself. It was on his body, right? Yeah. But, I mean, the point is that at the end of the freaking day, he had a right to defend himself. Yeah.

At the moment when it happened. And police officers and not just police officers, just what I was saying, is that that people, even not police officers, if you go through a legitimate firearms school or training, you know, if you carry a firearm, you have a duty to understand that if you ever have to use that firearm, you just better be prepared. Well, first of all, you better be prepared to use it

because if you get in a situation where you are overtaken or you are getting your car jacked or you were getting robbed, You don't want to underreact in that situation because if you do and that person does not have a firearm, they may use your firearm against you. Yeah. And that is like the number one rule when they talk to you about firearms is that you have to protect your weapon because people can use your weapon against you. Like that's a number one rule whenever you go to any classes. Like in law enforcement training, you know, one of the things that we learned was if you're in a fight with someone, and especially if you know that someone, I mean, if you're in a fight for your life with someone,

say on the side of a road or on a rural road or at their house and it's just you and them and you and this fight goes to the ground, your number one concern over, not just overpowering this person, but you have to use your body to protect your firearm. I mean, meaning if you're falling to the ground or if you're in a ground battle to where they're reaching,

because a lot of these guys will reach for your firearm, even though holsters are designed to where, you know, it's a quick action to where you have to practice knowing how to get your firearm out. But he didn't have a holster. What doesn't matter? Yeah, you're right. But he had a sling and that's what they're trying to push us on. You can rip a sling off somebody.

Yeah, you can rip that off easily off somebody. Or you could just lift it over their head. Yeah. I mean, you know, it could be wanted to. And he said that he felt it coming off his body. But with firearms and law enforcement, you have to understand that when you're in a ground battle, one of the things you have to be thinking about other than just beating and defeating the person that you were. fighting, you have to be understanding also that you have a firearm on your hip.

And if this, and by the way, criminals have studied and know how to take firearms off of officers. They know the actual mechanism of how you take it off. Because holsters in law enforcement a lot of times, you have a quick action where it's a two-step process usually. But you train as an officer to be able to do that. criminals are doing that. They know how to do this. But listen, they know how to do this. And so one of the things you have to always be conscious about is that when you're fighting on the ground,

you have to protect your farm. And usually that means if you can bring that fight to where you're leaning on your firearm, to where like you're fighting from a side or something else, you've got to do that. You don't want to be. But you have to remember, this guy has been knocked by a brick and a skateboard. twice. Like he, do you think he's like all the way there? I'm not saying that.

I'm just, I'm pointing, listen, I'm pointing to the fact. Yeah, but I'm applying it to the trial too. You have to put yourself in his situation. Yeah, and they're trying to ask him all these questions. Why were you not helping these people that you shot? Why were you not doing this? You're in a life or death situation. And you are, you know, whether or not he was illegally possessing a firearm or not,

he was still fighting for his life. He was there to help people. He was there to help, you know, people that got hurt or whatever, which I don't, you know, here's the thing. I wouldn't have been there to help fucking nobody because they're all assholes. Most of those people. But he was, I mean, and he, I'm like, there were several times during their night where he, like, avoided confrontation. Oh, a ton of times.

Yeah, you could tell. He was there to help anybody. It didn't matter who was. He did not want to be there for a confrontation. He was not there to riot or, like, anything. I wouldn't fucking help any of them bastards. This guy was a legit, legit. Legitly.

Yes. there to help people. Yeah. I swear to God he was. Yeah, I mean, he was the one that was going out in the crowd helping people. He wasn't the one that was defending something and trying to be all badass. He was literally just going around friendly, friendly, friendly. He wasn't trying to start confrontation.

He wasn't out there trying to start fights. He was trying to avoid them. He was just trying to help. Oh, but because he was taking fires out that it made him like piss off the other people. Yes, that's exactly what started. It pissed them off because he was putting out their fires. They were trying to cause destruction in. And, you know, Kyle, knowing that he was in the EMT cadet program and the fire program, he wanted to be a public servant.

That's what his goal was. That's what his lifelong goal was. He wanted to be a firefighter. He wanted to help people. He wanted to help people. And that's what he was there for. And that was his passion. That's where he felt like he could be of use to this community.

Should he have taken a weapon? Well, I don't know. I mean, yeah, obviously, because he probably would be dead right now. Yeah, I wouldn't have not gone without a weapon. I mean, it was illegal, I guess, you know, but, but, you know, illegal, but, you know, it's like, damn, the Second Amendment says everyone has the right to bear arms. Yeah, and there is no infringement. And this is what I'm thinking about his age, okay? He was 17, almost 18.

Yeah, and by the way, those people can go. You can go and, like, enlisting the army. You can vote, you can hunt, you can have a gun, you can have anything. Yeah. Yeah, and according to, keep in mind, according to the state laws is that, you know, I think it was Wisconsin state law or Illinois, whichever one it was, I think it was Illinois, you had to get a permit if you're under the age of 18 to carry a weapon. Now, we are not going to go in the Second Amendment and what that means, but the Second Amendment states plainly. Of the Constitution. Yeah, you have the right to bear arms, period.

There is no infringement on that. that. It doesn't say you have the right to bear arms, but the state has to say this and this and this and this and all this bullshit. It doesn't say that. It doesn't say that. And I hate to say it. It really doesn't even say it about people that are felons. Yeah, I know. Seriously. It really doesn't. I mean, I think they have just as much right as we do. Yeah, which is crazy. I mean, it sounds crazy, but... But they're American citizens. Yeah, they're citizens, but, you know, our government has taken away their rights. And yes, when, you know, I don't know... You know, it's a straightforward situation.

You know, in the Second Amendment situation, based on what they say, well, yeah, you let felons carry weapons. And if they fuck around, then they get... They find out. They find out is what it's called. Yeah. There was three... It's like karma gets you in the ass. There was three people that fucked around and found out that night.

Wisconsin. Three felons. From a 17-year-old. And by the way, I hate to say this because they're dead. Two of them are dead. But you know what? Is it really hurting society that two felons are dead? One of them was a pedophile.

The other one was, I don't know. I mean, I don't know. Karma and God can be working mysterious ways. I posted this about this screenshot, and they can. Those guys were there for no good. I'm glad that Kyle, unfortunately, he's went through hell for this. I know, I feel so bad. And trust me, for the rest of his life, he's never going to ever, ever, like his life will never be the same after this.

Yeah, not just because of the fact that he's going to be mentally scarred because he will be. Yeah, I'm just saying. But it's because of the people that are going to fucking torment him. Yeah, both. But mostly, like, what's in his brain. Oh, by the way, if he gets acquitted, he'll be able to get his AR-15 back. And then let fucking people come fuck with him then. Yeah, because he's freaking 18.

Now, y'all. Yeah, he's 18. He should be able to get that back. Yeah. Yeah, if he gets acquitted, the first thing he should do in the courtroom, because, you know, they have his weapon in the courtroom, right? Yeah, he's like, he should go around, give my fucking weapon. It's his friend's weapon, but.

Okay, well, still. He should go over and be like, hey, I need my weapon back. And bring that dude, the dude, you're prosecuting for, you know, selling me the weapon. Can you bring him in here so we can do a bill of sell because I'm getting my shit back? I ain't walking out of here. He didn't buy a weapon. He got it from his friend's house. No, but he gave the money to his friend

To buy the weapon No, he did not Oh my God, Sherry You are obviously not up on this case You need to get on the internet Start looking this shit up I thought his friend gave him the weapon No, he gave his friend the weapon

They went and bought slings for the weapon No, no, he went and bought slings He gave his friend the money for the weapon And he said, you keep this Until I turn 18 and then I will take it He gave his friend the money for the weapon I didn't see that day. Yeah, that was his friend's, you know, thing.

They had the whole thing about that. Okay, I didn't see that. So that's what I'm saying. He needs to bring his damn friend in there and say, look, it's time to do this bill of sell because you're selling me my damn weapon back. Oh, and good luck on your trial. Yeah. And did you guys notice today in the trial, the guy that was standing behind the defense attorney? I think he's a witness for the defense.

He looked like he's from the 1800s. Yeah. He might have come back from history. I believe he's a witness. witness for the defense and I think he's um god Mr. Black's stepdad or dad or something I think he's a character with witness or something from Oregon and look the thing is

I mean I hope that that his friend which they're also prosecuting yeah they're trying to bust him too yeah they're prosecuting him for um giving Kyle the weapon the weapon yeah you know but here's the thing I mean it's all going to determine what happens in this Kyle case.

Because honestly, like, if Kyle gets acquitted, the jury probably ain't going to give a shit about this minor charge of illegal weapons. Exactly. So it's either going to go, like, with Kyle and Mr. Black, you know, giving him the weapon, or it's going to go against Kyle and then the dude that pointed his weapon at him. What's his name, Gage? Yeah. He's going to get $10 million for pointing his weapon at a dude that fired his weapon at him.

Yeah, I mean, the bad thing is in this whole situation is that I don't, I mean, I hate to say this. I don't feel like it's going to go good for the, for Kyle. You don't? No, I'll tell you why. I don't feel like that because. I feel like he's going to be acquitted of all charges. Well, I do. But look, I think the politics at B.

are too powerful. Yeah. Maybe the jurors are scared to give a, you know, non-guilty verdict. That's the only reason I could see why that would happen. Because honestly, I've watched this trial for the most part. I maybe missed 20 minutes here and there. But everything I see, and I'm not trying to be biased, but it was self-freaking defense. No, it is.

I mean, you're not being biased. Because I'm just saying if that happened to me, I'd be doing the same damn thing. Yeah, you're not biased. You know what? But I'm just saying that. And this 17-year-old does not deserve to spend his life in jail or even 20 years in jail. Or five years. Yeah, nothing.

He doesn't. He doesn't deserve that. But listen, the point is, though, is that if you look at the JFK thing and they're not going to release documents, the government covers that shit up, you look at the fact that we did a podcast last night, which, by the way, I said it's not our best podcast. Yeah, we're going to read the place. Yeah, whatever. But the Martin Luther King thing, the fact that a jury found that in 1998. and 99 that the government was the one that was responsible for Martin Luther King's assassination. And yeah, have you ever heard about that?

No. I mean, have you ever heard that, I mean, I asked my mom, I've asked other people. Have you ever heard that the government was found by jurors to be responsible for Martin Luther King's death? Never. I always knew it was James Earl Ray that killed him. Yeah, that's what you, if you look up Amazon, if you look at Amazon, Alexa, Google, whatever, James Earl Ray. but a select jurors over four weeks of testimony determined that... 12 jurors, six white, six black.

Determined that it was the government that was the one that killed and assassinated Martin Luther King, Jr. And that's why I don't feel good about anything for Kyle Ridinghouse. And unfortunately, I hate to say it, until the people stand up against this bullshit. I just have a feeling... Look, the government... Well, again, I don't think he should be on trial. No, he shouldn't. He shouldn't. It shouldn't ever been tried. But the government is going to keep doing this.

They're going to keep pushing this shit because they want people to believe by this outcome, not only law enforcement, you know, I mean, regardless of what you want to say about George Floyd and in that situation, I don't know. It was probably excessive force. I get it. But, you know, murder and whatever, I don't know. But what I'm saying is the government wants you to believe, based on this case, that you do not have a right to defend yourself. Exactly. So what are you going to do? From tyranny and Antifa. Yeah.

And it's not anti-government. This is this bullshit. It's anti-America. And they want this case to be prosecuted. And they want it to be found guilty. So that it lets every American know. No, you're not going to defend yourself. Oh, yeah.

You're supposed to struggle for your gun to see who's going to get a bullet first. That's what you got to do. Yeah, but they didn't want it to go down exactly like this. And that's why part of me thinks this is a conspiracy. The fact that this guy had threatened him earlier in the night. Yeah. Just randomly. He said that he's going to take your heart out.

And then he was waiting. And he's waiting for you to be alone to kill you. And then he was? Yeah. And then it happens. And then the prosecution informs the detectives not to do search warrants and the media pushes this whole thing. Now the media is not pushing anything. They're not showing the case because they want if for some reason that he is found not guilty,

they want the country to explode again. Yeah, because they don't want people to believe he's a murder and domestic terrorists. Yeah, they don't want them to know the true facts of what really happened that night. They want them to think that he was a domestic terrorist that Damien lived here that came down here and was just wildly, like, shooting people and running around downtown shooting people for no reason. Yeah. But guys, some of you have asked me, by the way, what this song is. And we're going to end this song because I just am in that mood. just based on just the bullshit.

I mean, and look, guys, I hate to say this, but sometimes we do this for you guys. We do it for us too, but we do it to release what we feel, but we also do it for you. We want you guys to know the shit that we're thinking and whether you agree with us or not all the time, I don't know, but...

Well, I just feel like everyone needs to know the truth. Yeah, the point is that we, it does, you know, it takes a toll on us to constantly. Like, we would love to have a podcast where we talk about good shit. And one day, hopefully, we can go back. Unicorns.

One day we can go back to aliens and, you know, Bigfoot and like lighthearted shit. I mean, you know what I'm saying? Like maybe one day we can go back to that because that's what we started this podcast on was fun. Not just fun, but I mean, you know, the alien things I really believe in. And the Bigfoot thing, not necessarily, but, you know, it's fun to talk about. It's fun to examine. There are things that are lighthearted that are fun to hear and talk about. These are the strong things in our lives.

and it's just that. But these are also conspiracies. These are conspiracies more than anything we've ever had on this podcast. Yeah, and we have to talk about it. If you want to talk about New World Order, if you want to talk about Bigfoot, if we're going to talk about aliens, this is what's happening right now. These are conspiracies based on our government, based on our deep state, based on all this shit. These are conspiracies where people are getting together to do things and to implement things and to prosecute things.

And meanwhile, in Chicago, there was a, there was a, shootout a few days ago where one person was dead laying in the street there was multiple people shot there were 70 bullet casings yeah I saw that and they literally prosecuted no one yeah no one told them and said the reason for it was mutual combat yeah mutual combat this is what they're saying now so it's okay in Chicago but it's not okay in Wisconsin yeah it's fucking ridiculous you know all gang all gang related shootings are mutual combat but maybe they want that maybe they want No they do

They want them shooting each other Well think about it Some of the biggest cities in America Are the most fucked Look at New York Look at Chicago Look at Los Angeles Look at most of them

Except for I mean it's just It's almost like it is planned And um But anyways guys For those of you don't want to know What this song is And we're gonna end this with this tonight

I know some of you reached out And said what is the name of the song And actually I've literally forgot the artist So I'm gonna tell you now This is I don't give a fuck And we're doing the explicit version of night because that's the way I feel. Yeah.

And it's by Deaf, Love. It's by Def Lev. Yeah. But guys, listen, go to our Facebook, like our Facebook. If you want to be an early member on our social media before we release it, send us a message. Let us know you want to do it. And we're going to release this, guys.

And when we release this, I want you to share it with everyone that you can because that's what we want to do, man. We want to take over social media. We want freedom of speech. I know there's going to be some things that we got to figure out. But we'll do that together. We're going to be a family. we're community. We got to take back the world.

We got to take back the right from the wrong. Right. Just like Kyle was trying to do for his community. The only way... Which he belonged in that community. But the only way we can do that is to organize. And we have to make a difference. So guys, this is I Don't Give a Fuck by Def Lev.

Here you go. And until next time, which will probably be very soon. Probably tomorrow. Peace out. Peace out. I'm trading.