Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Las Vegas Cyber Truck Bombing | Shawn Ryan Show Bombshell
Episode Date: January 4, 2025In this episode, we dive into the shocking Las Vegas Tesla Cybertruck bombing carried out by Army Green Beret Matthew Livelsberger. Just days before the explosion, Matthew sent an email to a whistlebl...ower account, revealing startling details about the mysterious drones spotted over New Jersey and across the United States. He also exposed war crimes he had witnessed and planned to bring to light. Additionally, we briefly cover the tragic New Orleans terror attack, where 14 innocent lives were lost. We’re back, and we’ve missed you all! Tune in for an explosive episode filled with revelations and deep discussions.Shawn Ryan Full Show
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Oh, it's a vicious dream.
Hello and welcome to Investigator's Podcast.
I'm your host chat alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry, on tonight's episode.
Guys, we're going to talk about all the craziness that's been going on in 2025.
And guess what?
It's only January the freaking third.
And so who would have ever expected this except for basically everyone that's
listened to our podcast, including us?
Because I do want to apologize from the gig.
We've not been around a lot lately, but I've desperately been trying to get over the sickness.
I thought I was over it once I broke the 103 fever I had for like four or five, six days.
Sherry had fever as well.
That was 104.
And then I got some kind of lung infection that is just relentless.
It has been hell.
It definitely is.
Like this song really reminds me of it.
I feel like I'm living among the Milwaukee dead right now because this dude cannot even get off the couch without feeling like he's going to die.
No, it's been crazy.
It's been awful.
And I have been trying to be in the best spirits.
But, you know, it's almost like when somebody coughs 24-7, especially when you're trying to go to sleep, and it's like 127 in the morning and they're still coughing.
You're like, oh, my God.
It's like, it's like a chalkboard with your nails going down it.
Well, you're getting paid back because I'm telling you, I think anybody that listens to this podcast can can vouch for how many times you've been sick on the show.
Yes, I know.
So you were getting payback and I've taken care of you many, many times.
Yes.
But I have to blame Anthony Fauci.
for this shit. I really think that this, whatever we had, it came in phases and we thought, oh,
okay, it's just like, you know, you feel dizzy and you have a high fever and you have the aches and
pains. Oh, no. It goes through phases that last for weeks. Yeah, it's been hell. Yeah, we have been
sick for weeks. Thank God I feel better. So I can be kind of caretaker. I have not been the best one
because I get aggravated. I'm sorry, Chad. I love you. But it's just really hard when you hear some
coughing all the time, but I do want you to get better.
Well, thanks.
I appreciate that.
I want to get better as well.
This has been hell for sure.
But guys, we are here to talk about all the craziness has been going on.
And I'm telling you, man, and like we've been watching all of this, you know, go down on
television and just watching X as best I can and just all the social media.
And then the bombshells that broke today is insane.
And actually, in a lot of ways, there's one of our very good friends, I believe.
that in some ways have been vindicated a little bit,
especially to people who have been desperately trying to call him a grifter
or has been trying to say he's crazy or a lunatic
or just far out there.
And we're talking about Ashton Forbes.
There was something that broke today that if you guys have not heard it,
you're going to hear it here.
We're not going to play the entire piece in its entirety,
but it actually relates to the Tesla truck bombing in Las Vegas.
Now, obviously, besides the Tesla truck bombing,
we had what happened in New Orleans,
where on January the 1st, 2025, during New Year celebrations on Bourbon Street, a man drove a pickup truck into a crowd resulting in at least 15 fatalities, one of those being him, and injuring over 30 people, the assailant identified as a 42-year-old Shamsuddin Jabar, which is a U.S. Army veteran from Texas, was killed in a shootout with police at the scene.
An ISIS flag was found in his vehicle and the FBI is treating the answer as an act of terrorism.
then you had the Las Vegas incident.
Later that same day, an explosion occurred outside of the Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas.
The blast involved a Tesla cyber truck rented by 37-year-old U.S. Army veteran Matthew Littlesberger,
which, by the way, I believe was active at the time when this happened.
And he died from what they're calling a self-inflicted gunshot wound prior to the explosion.
Authorities discovered fireworks, gas tanks, and camping fuel inside the vehicle, leading them to
investigate the incident as a potential terrorist attack.
Now, what I will say is what we're going to cover on this show.
We're going to be covering more of the Las Vegas incident more so than we are going to cover
the New Orleans incident.
We will probably cover the New Orleans incident in its entirety on a separate episode.
It'll probably be our next episode we have out.
And the only reason is, is because these are, in my opinion, two separate things, right?
There has been a lot of debate on whether or not these two instances were connected.
number one, because both Matthew and the guy in New Orleans rented a vehicle from the same rental company, right?
And apparently, I guess this rental company, instead of it being like, you know, Hertz or somewhere to where they have all these vehicles, you can actually offer up your own vehicle for rental.
And so that is what this rental company is.
Very strange, though, however, that these two things occurred on the same day.
Also very strange that the cyber truck bombing in Las Vegas in front of the cyber truck appeared to be a Ford F-150 Lightning, very similar, almost identical it seemed like, to the truck that was used in New Orleans by this guy that was doing it on behalf of ISIS.
And we can't forget, both of these guys went to the same military base at Fort Bragg, North Carolina.
Yeah, we don't know if they were there at the same time, but they were both there.
and there's just something that is weird about this whole thing with military guys being bombers
or terrorists are terrorists in general.
This is not, to me, likely.
Well, it appears that the Las Vegas guy is not a terrorist.
He seems like he was a part of a whistleblowing thing that he knew he had to get out.
Now, was this guy suicidal?
Did he, you know, what drove him and you don't maybe necessarily know what we're talking about yet?
But let's just put it this way.
the guy in Las Vegas released a manifesto, basically a, a whistleblowing email to someone that, I guess, does this type of stuff regularly.
He has an account to where people that are whistleblowers or maybe feels more comfortable going to this guy because this guy's ex-intelligence.
They can reach out to this Instagram account.
And it's like this guy said, he said, you know, I've never had anything like this before.
actually even when he
when he first got this email from
Matthew, which was the Las Vegas
right, um, guy that blew up in the
in the cyber truck.
He said when I first got it, I was like, this is probably bullshit.
Like most of this is probably bullshit.
And then when he found out
who this guy was after the attack or after the,
you know, the, this
cyber truck blew up.
And then there were people asking him, was like, hey man,
did you know this guy by chance in this circle?
You know, everybody was kind of texting everybody.
And then he started realizing,
And he's like, oh, shit, this is the guy I got this freaking email from.
Yeah.
And there was people that he knows that actually worked with this guy.
And this guy didn't just reach out to him.
He reached out to major people like Pete Heggseth.
Yeah, Pete, well, he was trying to reach out to Pete Heggseth.
He reached out to this guy.
He reached out or was trying to reach out to Sean Ryan, which he actually did reach
out to Sean Ryan.
Sean Ryan just did not see it.
Yeah, he didn't see it in time because he had a deadline.
He said January 31st is the last time he can talk about this because he was planning.
on going to Mexico to the border to get away because he knew FBI and other places or other people were following him.
Yeah.
Thus, he had all this stuff in his truck to kind of safeguard himself.
Yeah.
Yeah, he did.
But before we get into that, you know, there was something Senator Kennedy actually said in an interview when they were talking about what was going on in New Orleans.
and I believe the Las Vegas attack or bombing, whatever you want to call it,
had happened at the same time as well.
But here's what Senator Kinney had to say in an interview.
This was about the New Orleans incident.
There was just something that he said that sounded a little strange.
Like he knew something that a lot of people did not know yet,
and he hopes that the government was actually going to come out and tell the people.
Listen this.
The federal government is now in charge of this investigation.
By that, I mean the White House.
the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, and the Department of Justice.
I have not talked to the FBI.
Maybe they've talked to my staff.
I don't know.
I did talk to the Secretary of Homeland Security a little while ago.
And I told him that with all the respect I could muster,
that we expect to put the full force and resources of the federal government.
government behind this investigate.
Our state troopers, our local police departments, our sheriff, we've got many sheriffs here
today have been terrific so far. Federal governments cooperating with them. I hope that
will continue. Here's what I want to ask from the federal government. Kets these people.
Catch these people. And then tell the American people the truth. Now, I don't want you to
to tell us, yet anything that's going to interfere with your investigation.
And there are things that I've been told that I think are true that I'm not sharing with you today
because it could interfere with their investigation.
But after we get to the bottom of this, they need to tell the American people the truth.
And the people in the New Orleans are truth and the people of America's the truth.
All right.
So there's Kennedy at the press conference.
Obviously, he knows something it sounds like that not a lot of people know yet.
Yeah, and what he was talking about was the press conference about New Orleans.
Yeah.
But I think that he knew something that was going on in Las Vegas, too.
He had to know because he's like, I'm going to give them the benefit of doubt.
I'm not going to impede their investigation, but the truth will come out no matter freaking what is basically what he was saying.
Like, I'm going to let them investigate, but the American people need to know the truth.
And they're so much involved in these two acts of violence on the same day, basically.
Yeah.
And let's not also forget.
So you have Matthew or Matt Livelsberger.
You have the guy in New Orleans.
They were both at four Bragg.
But then guess who else was also at Fort Bragg?
Ryan Ruth.
Yeah, Ryan Ruth.
For those that do not remember who Ryan Ruth is,
Ryan Ruth is a guy that was waiting outside of Trump's golf course that was going to try
to assassinate Trump.
the number two person.
And guess what?
Ryan Ruth also was at Fort Bragg.
Now, Fort Bragg for most people don't understand, Fort Bragg is in Fayetteville, North Carolina.
I lived in Fort Bragg slash Fayetteville.
You have Fort Bragg, which is one of the largest military bases in the United States, highly
secretive area.
It is home to one of our most elite special forces units in the Army.
It is also home to the 101st Airborne Division, or sorry, the 82nd Airborne Division,
1001st in Georgia, I believe, or or Conduct.
Kentucky, either way. So you have the 82nd Airborne. You have various CID and special
intelligence groups that also operate out of Fort Bragg. Now, there are parts of Fort Bragg because
I've, you know, I've been on Fort Bragg quite, I was on Fort Bragg based quite often.
And there are certain sections in Fort Bragg to where it is not only as Fort Bragg, you know,
highly secretive, you got to have, you know, all your passes or your military ID. You got to also have
your badge in your car or you could have a visitor pass if you get on as a visitor.
But then even inside of Fort Bragg, you have highly classified areas that even just normal people
on base, normal soldiers, whatever the case is, cannot get nowhere near.
I mean, they are not allowed anywhere near this section.
And, you know, we're talking about potentially two to 300 acres outside of the actual base
itself.
So what are they doing in some of these areas in Fort Bragg?
There's also been, obviously, rumors and conspiracies that Fort Bragg has a deep underground
military bases underneath the base or it is a massive tunnel area for some of our tunneling
in the United States.
But whatever has been going on in Fort Bragg is very extensive.
And for some reason, all of a sudden, these people that have all had ties and connections
to Fort Bragg are now in the news everywhere.
And I don't think this is related, but I just want to bring it up because on my Facebook,
it's everywhere.
If you were at Fort Bragg during certain times, you are at risk for all the
these cancers because of the water supply there and blah, blah, blah, blah.
But it made me think past the water supply and the cancer that maybe they're doing something
further to these people like MK. Ultra or doing some kind of programs where they're programming
people to do these awful crimes or awful things to other people.
Yeah, well, you got to remember the movie, the Maniturian candidate, which was by Richard Condon.
And it was later adapted into a pretty big film.
I mean, there was, a lot of people
seen the film. And it refers to a
political thriller plot where an individual
is brainwashed and programmed
through psychological manipulation
to act against their own will
typically as an unwitting agent
for a hostile power, right?
And it was also interesting
with the clip that we're going to play with Sean Ryan in a minute.
The very first thing that Matthew says here
in that email is that he is not acting
on behalf of a hostile force.
Which I felt very,
interested.
Yes.
That was very interesting.
And he even brought up the first car he ever purchased, which was a Mustang or whatever.
Just to say he was not under any hostile force making him say these things that was on his will.
Yeah.
Now, I just want to play to you right now.
This is what CNN is saying about what happened in Las Vegas.
I want you to hear just a little bit of what mainstream media is saying.
And by the way, even after Sean Ryan came out with this show today, they are still freaking saying this.
They are still saying the exact same thing.
Well, they probably doesn't even see the show.
Oh, I'm sure they have.
I mean, it's literally the number one thing on YouTube right now.
So, which is surprising also that YouTube is actually allowing this to be out there.
But this is what CNN, just a minute, this is what CNN is basically saying about what happened in the Las Vegas bombing.
Officials in Vegas talking now about the cyber truck attack there at the Trump Hotel.
Let's listen in.
As many of you went to sleep last night.
And I just want to give you an update on a lot of what it is that we found.
through the processing of the cyber truck.
This is a joint investigation involving the FBI, the ATF,
the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department,
and these folks worked through the night
and found a lot of stuff that is very useful for this investigation.
As you look at this cyber truck here,
we had to transport this down to our fleet services
so that we could really get through this thing.
And I remind you that the subject inside
wasn't able to be removed for a very long period of time because he was burnt beyond recognition.
And so as we continue to move through this, I'm going to talk a little bit about his identity and what we believe,
but I would like to highlight a couple of things that the teams found inside of the cyber truck
that are useful to the investigation.
And that first and foremost is a military identification.
We also found a passport.
We found a Desert Eagle 50 caliber,
semi-automatic pistol.
And if you'll notice on a lot of these guns that we're going to talk about here,
they're almost just burnt beyond recognition as well.
There's an SLR model B-30, semi-automatic firearm,
a number of fireworks that were still in the vehicle that had to be removed.
Notably, we found an iPhone and a smartwatch,
and then several credit cards were also in the name of our subject.
Our subject is 37-year-old Matthew Livelsberger.
He's of Colorado Springs, Colorado, born July 22nd of 1987.
Now, as you'll see here on a picture of his driver's license, let's see, the question really still remains for me.
And I know that there's a lot of you folks in the media that are identifying this person as the person in our vehicle.
As I mentioned to you already, his body is burnt beyond recognition, and I do still not have confirmation 100% that that is the individual that was inside of our vehicle.
And so as I'm calling it now, the subject or person of interest, I will not come back until I have the confirmation through DNA or medical records that this is indeed, in fact, the subject inside of the vehicle.
Now, further complicating this identification of this individual, we also discovered through the coroner's office that the individual had sustained a gunshot wound to the head prior to the detonation of the vehicle.
One of the handguns was found at his feet inside of the...
Okay, by the way, this is probably one of the most dumb founding things that this guy says is that he had a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head.
prior to the detonation.
Number one, how the hell did the truck detonate?
Well, supposedly, Elon said they went in and got the tapes or whatever and they played it.
But I don't believe that one bit.
Yeah, I don't know.
But you got to also remember, regardless of what we think of Elon, regardless of what we think of Trump and all this stuff, it is still the United States government.
And what I'm saying when I say this, once you hear what Sean Ryan and the whistleblower said and all this stuff, you'll understand probably why he had a gunshot wound in his head.
Yes, but he was burnt past recognition.
Yeah, exactly.
They can't even identify this guy yet.
Yeah.
So let's listen to just a little bit more of what they're saying in this press conference.
And then we're going to get to the bombshell video.
Listen.
Vehicle.
Obviously, in how we're trying to identify him and I'm feeling comfortable to give you this information is a tremendous amount of substantial evidence to include he rented the Toro vehicle.
There are two tattoos, one of which was on the stomach and one of which is on the arm,
that we can see bits and pieces of it as in comparison to what it is that we now know he had on his body
that has given us a lot of confidence that this is, in fact, the same person,
as well as the clearly obvious, which is the credit cards, the military identification, the passport.
And then furthermore, as you'll see here in just a very short period of time, we tracked his movements from Colorado to Las Vegas.
And in a number of the photographs that we were able to determine, he was the individual that was driving the vehicle.
And also, I'd like to iterate this point to you, we still have only ever seen him in this vehicle.
And we're not aware of any other subjects involved in this particular case.
All right.
So there we go.
So that's essentially what their initial reporting said so far, except for there's a couple more things that have come out today.
I want to know, was he driving the vehicle or was the vehicle driving him?
Well, that's going to be interesting that we're going to talk about later because that is a lot bigger conspiracy, but also definitely very possible.
And is it even potentially why it was a Tesla cyber truck to begin with?
And did he even shoot himself in front of Trump tire?
I mean, yeah, in front of Trump or Trump International Hotel.
prior to the fireworks and everything else going off.
Yes.
So we'll talk about that.
But I do want to go ahead and get to the Sean Ryan video.
Now, I do encourage you guys to go watch the whole interview in its entirety.
We're going to play the very first part of the interview as Sean Ryan is introducing his guest.
This is the guy that actually received the email.
And then it's going to get to the actual email.
We're going to break that down.
And then we'll talk about it and all the conspiracies around.
it what I think is most likely.
And I think he kind of says it here.
And this guy is ex-intelligence.
Obviously, Sean Ryan, I believe, is X-CIA and Navy-Sill, I believe, if I'm not mistaken.
So let's go ahead and get to this video.
Sam Shumate.
Welcome to the show, man.
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
I'm nervous about this one.
Yeah, me too.
I'm really nervous about this one.
So yesterday I come into work and our stuff's been exploding because of the Sarah Adams at
Sarah Adams Scott, man legend did an interview with Massoud, kind of warning everybody about
there's going to be a lot of terrorism here in 2025.
Didn't take long.
Jan 1, it hit.
And, you know, it's interesting.
We couldn't get any mainstream media outlets to pay attention to those interviews.
And nobody would really give Sarah a voice.
Now, everybody wants to give Sarah a voice because, oh, guess what?
The fucking CIA Targeter was actually right.
Mainstream media gave her no attention.
So that's been going crazy.
I come in yesterday and for an interview, the first thing I do is talk to my producer, Jeremy,
and he says that he's been in contact with you and that you had received some type of manifesto or email from the Green Beret that set off the car bomb at Trump Hotel in Las Vegas.
Right.
jump in an interview and come out.
My phone is blown up.
Apparently, CID, Army CID, which is, how would you describe it?
It's like the FBI light.
Yeah.
They are federal agents, but yeah, they.
The Army's FBI.
Yeah.
I get all these messages from these people that say CID is talking to this person and that person.
And one of these guys on the list is still, still operational.
and they want his name redacted, and every Green Beret I know is texting me about this.
Fucking really freaked me out, man.
It was like, well, how did this leak?
Who's tracking my fucking phone?
All that kind of stuff.
So I just want to say thank you for being here because I was eavesdropping in on that conversation you had with Jeremy.
And this is a big story, man.
This is big.
Yeah, it is.
Real big.
and so thank you for being here.
I appreciate it. Thank you.
But I do, before we get too heavy, I got some gifts for you.
So before we jump in, I just want to say a couple things about today.
And we're not necessarily validating what came in on that email.
There's some pretty alarming stuff that came out in the email about the drones that we're seeing on the East Coast and some capabilities that China has, some capabilities that we have.
some activity that went on in Afghanistan in 2019, which actually we do have news reports
that that is valid. A lot of this stuff actually really lines up, but we can't give it 100%
credibility. I think you would agree with that as an intelligence analyst.
And then additionally, there are a few names, too, I believe, that we are redacting
from this because they are still operational.
And as much as I would love to release those names,
we're not going to do it so that those guys can remain undercover
and not burn their entire operation of what they're into right now.
And there was one more thing.
I want to give a little background on you.
Retired from the Army in 2023 as a CW2 intelligence officer.
and understand the information war.
In 2020, you were still on active duty.
You started a social media account where you intended to share memes and gifs.
Despite your intentions, the account grew into what it is today.
You've developed, what is the account's name?
It's an Instagram account goes by Terminal CWO.
Terminal CWO.
You've developed a robust network of service members across the Department of Defense who
trust you with their reports of unethical and in some cases illegal behavior from their leaders.
You expose the unethical and illegal behavior while protecting whistleblowers in order to hold
military leaders accountable, which is why you receive the email from the Green Beret.
And because of your background, you come across wild information all the time.
You're here today because of an email you received from Matthew Livelsberger, a couple of days
before the cyber truck bombing at Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas.
You'll also be able to discuss what you know about the terrorists who conducted the New Orleans attack.
Did it miss anything?
No, that pretty is.
That sums it up.
I'll give a background on why that's significant so your viewers understand how this came into my inbox.
Perfect.
One other thing that I just wanted to say to the audience is even though we are redacting these names from the episode,
So you pass that, I believe you pass that email onto the FBI.
Yes.
We're also going to pass it on to our contacts at the FBI.
It's very obvious that people know it.
Like I said, the CID has been telling everybody.
In fact, we talked to Jeremy, who's sitting over there, my producer, me, him, and my attorney, Tim Parletori, were up until about 1030 last night talking to the chief of staff.
The Army Chief of Staff PA.
The Army Chief of Staff's POA took a major interest in this as well.
And, you know, one of the things that he said, maybe I'll wait until later to bring that up, but he, I don't know, I don't trust any of these people.
I mean, public affairs officers are there to.
I'll keep my mouth.
Yeah.
Create.
Yeah.
Create.
PAO is there to protect the command.
Yeah.
100% nothing else.
Yeah.
They're not there.
to shed transparency on anything.
They are there to protect the command.
Let's recreate what the story is.
But, and you know what's interesting?
Fuck it. I'm just going to say it.
You know what he said? He goes, on the call, he said,
I didn't talk to him. I didn't want to talk to him.
But so add them talk to him.
He said, between me and you guys, this guy's, this
guy's DNA didn't match his son and it made it sound like it's some big secret then at 9.34 p.m.
I saw, I think it was 9.34 p.m. The New York Post had a headline that said that this guy's,
so they're trying to make it sound like this guy did this because maybe he found out the son
wasn't his. But there's a lot more to the stories. You'll find out. So yeah. So let's go to you,
Sam. Tell me how you got the email. All right. So for context,
I've run this account for the last four and a half years.
There have been people in and out writing articles and different stuff and just
investigations, some big, some small, just trying to keep accountability in the military,
but it develops a robust network within the military, all branches, and people feed
into this and send me messages in here and there.
Nothing ever like this has ever come in.
All right.
I want to pause this just for a second because I got to just point out something here.
This went all the way up to the Army Chiefs.
of staff.
You're talking about the highest level of the Army.
And so then when they found out about this email that Sam Shoemate, which is the guy
that Sean Ryan is interviewing here, X Army CID, and as he says, Army CID, and they're
everywhere around Fort Bragg, by the way.
Yeah, they're like the FBI for the Army.
Yes.
And they're everywhere around the Fort Bragg.
And if you as a military member do some shit, the CID is coming after you, not FBI, not
anything else.
Yeah.
So they're very high level intelligence as well.
they work very closely with FBI
and in some ways can't even be potentially
higher than FBI in stature as far as
how much access they have
how much they try to either
manipulate things but it's as
he says you know the Army Chief of Staff
PAO is what he meant, public
affairs officer. All they
wanted to do is just protect the story.
That is their number one goal and so that's
why they reached out to Sean Ryan's show to say
hey this is between us.
Yeah, this is what's going on
because they're going to protect like he said
command and not the whistleblower at all.
They're not there to protect anyone else but what's going on.
Yeah, and you've got to think about this.
So, you know, think about the fact that if what you're about to hear is true, which
I believe 100% it is, especially in terms of drones, I would say more than likely that even,
you know, if the United States has technology, like what Ashton Forbes has been talking about,
the gravitational manipulation technology and all this stuff, it would come from a base maybe
like Fort Bragg or, you know, the command structure that at least.
least knows about these programs.
And at the very least, it sounds like our friend here, Matthew, knew about these programs
very deeply.
Yeah.
I mean, real quick, it's just very interesting that they're talking about the son's DNA
didn't match.
And like he might have been distraught.
And that's why he did all this stuff.
No, his son's DNA didn't match because his body was not in the car.
Maybe.
I mean, that's the possibility.
Or in the truck.
Yeah.
The cyber truck.
Yeah, those listen some more.
I get a, I get a, well, it started off.
is comments. So when you have a big Instagram account, you're going to miss a lot of messages
because people message and go to hidden messages and everything else. You miss a lot of stuff.
Well, I kept seeing this comment on recent posts that I put in there and was from this
burner account and said, hey, check your DMs, check your DMs, check your DMs, check your DMs.
So I go in there and try to find it. There's no message from this guy hadn't come through
or whatever. And then he messages again once that message was opened up. And I said, hey,
your previous messages haven't come through. What do you want to tell me? And he said, what I'm going to
send you. Now, these are literally his words. What I'm going to send you is going to change the course
of humanity. That was his phrase. Change the course of humanity. Okay, a little bit dramatic.
I get these messages all the time. People have this big story they want to tell. They want to expose
their command, whatever. I take everything with a grain of salt until I have evidence and proof.
So this guy is insistent. He tells me, he tells me that he is a 18 Zulu, who I've spoken to
before. And he really needs to get this stuff to me. And then he talks.
talks about you. He says, I need you to get me in contact with Sean Ryan. I'm like, dude,
I don't know Sean Ryan. I'm not that big. But he's insisting that I get him diverted to media
sources, says, go to Fox News, wherever else. I said, all right, tell me what you got. So I give
him my proton email account, giving him my signal number. And he reaches out immediately. And I'm
going to read this initial message for you because this doesn't have names or anything else on it.
But this was his message on Sunday. He reached out and said, like I said, Sunday,
this last Sunday, he said, sending with a VPN active on Wi-Fi only, do not message me.
I will send out updates via both signal and email, but trust me, you're going to want to be
involved.
Well, first of all, no, I don't, I didn't want to be involved.
Anyways.
And then, so I didn't message.
I responded back to his original Instagram message, and I said, hey, I got your message
on Proton Mail, and he said, cool, delete this.
So I deleted it.
that's how I ended up getting this message on Tuesday.
So the message that this, this right here, this manifesto, if you want to call it that,
came in on Tuesday.
And when I started reading this, my initial take was, okay, this is off the deep end.
It's bonkers.
I can't validate or verify any of the stuff in this manifesto.
And I told him that in a subsequent email.
And I'll read that to you later, my response to him.
And once again, my response to him elicited.
Hey, give me in contact with Sean Ryan, Fox News, and he even said Pete Hegseth.
Give me in contact with Hegseth.
And I'm like, dude, I don't have the incoming Secretary of Defense's phone number.
Sorry, bro.
That's the last time I talked to him.
So yesterday morning.
What date was that?
That was Tuesday.
That was this Tuesday.
So we're Friday now.
That was three days ago.
So the day be 30th?
Yeah, the day before the attack.
I dismissed this stuff out of hand.
The 31st.
It was on the 31st.
Yes.
In fact, I posted something on my,
and I told you a producer about this as well.
But this was a post I made on Twitter.
I was just trying to be humorous off the cuff.
It was,
it didn't mean anything about it.
I was just being humorous for my audience.
I said, my inbox was especially eventful today.
Allegations of war crimes,
government anti-gravity technology,
and fears about being tracked and watched by the feds.
It's always, the world is ending,
and I have this information
that needs to get to the media and never, how you doing, brother?
Everything all right?
I was just playing off of a meme.
It was just supposed to be a joke.
That was the body of his email that he sent me.
And I didn't think anything about it.
I didn't know who Matt Berg was, Matt Livelsberg or anything else.
He told me who he was in the email.
He pointed me to his LinkedIn account.
I didn't know any of this stuff.
And I was just kind of being humorous from my audience.
Like, I get these crazy messages sometime.
And then the day after that message, I wake up and my body was like, hey, Sam,
nobody in the community seems to know this guy.
Do you happen to know who he is?
And I played that for you before we came up here.
Just absolute shock.
That's how I woke up.
Do you want to play it now?
Yeah.
Excuse my language.
I was definitely in shock.
Let me find this chat.
While you're digging through that, you know, what we should do.
I should get that Instagram account from you to see if they messaged any of our Instagram accounts.
And we should also get that email address.
I don't have it.
deleted it.
You deleted it.
He told me in deleted.
it and I deleted it.
Okay.
Yeah.
We should also get that email address and see if they sent it in to the, sent it in
through the website and see if you tried to contact us, get that to, get that to the FBI.
So I'm in a, I'm in a military.
I actually do something.
Yeah.
I'm in a military group chat, buddy, Green Beret, Corey, he says, at Sam, nobody I've asked
in the community and he knows him.
You is at 846 a.m. yesterday.
So, I,
I woke up and I said, oh, F, I'm shaking.
This guy emailed me two days ago.
I'm not playing.
And then he said, damn.
And then this was my response to him at 848.
Like, just woke up.
I'm fucking shaking, bro.
You don't understand.
This guy emailed me and told me he was being watched by the FBI and Homeland Security,
but they were going to do anything to him because he had a V-Bid.
I'm not fucking playing, dude.
I have the email.
I am shaking, man.
This is nuts.
And it goes from there.
And I sat there for probably an hour talking about why I'm shaking.
I can't even think straight.
Like normal day is shot.
And I didn't know what I wanted to do.
Do I sit on this?
Do I do nothing with it?
I've got to tell somebody.
I've got to tell the FBI at least because this is huge.
This is all over the news.
And then I was like, well, dude, this guy wanted to get in contact with Sean Ryan.
So let me get this to Sean Ryan.
See if I can get with him.
And I had a buddy who knew your producer and we went from there.
Wow. Wow. Do you want to read the email? Yep. So this email came in on December 31st at 1042 a.m. That is Tuesday. He said, in case I do not make it to my decision point or onto the Mexico border, I am sending this now. Please do not release this until one January and keep my identity private until then. First off, I'm not under duress or hostile influence or control. My first car was a 2000.
2006 Black Ford Mustang v6 for verification.
What we have been seeing with drones, he puts that in quotes, he says drones, is the operational
use of gravitic propulsion systems powered aircraft by most recently China in the East Coast,
but throughout history of the U.S.
Only we in China have this capability.
Our Opsen, that's Operation Center, our Opsin location for this activity is in the box below.
China has been launching them from the Atlantic from submarines for years, but this activity recently
has picked up. As of now, it is just a show of force, and they are using it similar to how they
use the balloon for SIGA and ISR, which are also part of the integrated comm system. There are
dozens of those balloons in the air at any given time. The so what is because of the speed and
stealth of these unmanned aircraft. They are the most dangerous threat to national security that
has ever existed. They basically have an unlimited payload capacity and can park it over the
White House that they wanted. It's checkmate.
U.S. government needs to give the history of this, how we are employing it and weaponizing it,
how China is employing them in what the way forward is. China is poised to attack anywhere in the
East Coast. I've been followed for over a week now from likely homeland or FBI.
All right. Got to pause just for a second, guys. Sorry if you're mad that we're pausing,
but number one, drones. I mean, he's talking about the freaking drones that we have been seeing
off the East Coast around New Jersey, not just the East Coast, but this could even potentially
talk about what Commander Fravers saw off the West Coast, what Commander Ryan Graves and
other military pilots have been encountering on a, in some cases, daily basis.
Yes, absolutely.
He calls it gravidic propulsion systems.
Yes, this is not just the drones that we see that are unmanned jets or whatever.
These are the things that we're seeing that look like they're, they're,
maneuverable without gravitation.
Yeah, like UFOs.
They sometimes glow.
They can even potentially shape shift.
A lot of what people have been seeing like over New Jersey and stuff.
They said, look, this thing appeared like a regular drone.
Then it went to some kind of orb.
Then it went back to like an airplane looking thing.
Then it disappeared.
And this guy is talking about, hey, this grividic propulsion system that are being launched
what he says from submarines.
From China.
And from China, which means that we are right now, as we saw,
speak, are actively invaded by a hostile force.
You have to keep that in your mind right now to understand that.
And let me remind you guys about the weather balloon that came all the way across America,
that we let it go across and we just watched it go across and video or doing whatever it
was doing, spying on us, whatever.
And we finally blew it up on the east coast of Myrtle Beach.
Yeah, right off the coast.
That's when we finally blew it up, but we let it go all the way across.
but he's saying there's weather balloons that we can't even see.
There's drones we can't even say.
They're stealth.
We can't see them.
Also, I think what we have to also understand is this is very reminiscent of what
Ashton Forbes has been talking about with MH370.
If you look at those MH370 videos, you look at those freaking orbs that are circling
this aircraft.
Obviously, these things have some type of zero point energy, what Ashton Ford's been talking
about for a very long time, this gravidic propulsion.
system. This also what we've talked about. You got to go back to, listen, I also think in a lot of
ways this vindicates if this is true, which it sounds like it is. And it also sounds like, and you're
going to hear more in just a minute about why maybe Matthew would know this, because Matthew is a
part or was a part of a some type of program in the military to where he actually used weaponry
from probably drones. Right. And he was a green, green beret. Green beret, but I think.
It's like the top of the top, isn't it? Yeah. Well, I mean, a green beret. A green beret
special forces, right? So it's kind of like a Navy
seal, but it's the Army version. Right. Like the top.
Yeah. And so, well, it's not, I mean,
yeah, but you have various ranks in Green Beret
on this stuff. But what I'm saying is
oftentimes Green Berets, they rank up,
they get these top secret clearances.
And they also are invited in
these specialized,
top secret programs that
maybe the government has, such as
drones or gravity, you know,
even the gravitic propulsion systems
that no one knows about, except for
people like Ashton Forbes been trying to tell everyone, we think that, look, MH370 disappeared
because of these orbs.
Diego Garcia military base, which is over there.
That's, you know, what the hell do we have over there?
But this guy, the number one thing he wants to talk about is, hey, guys, by the way, these drones
are Chinas.
They're showing force right now.
They're not.
And they're basically just saying, look, just so you know, this is what we can do.
And the scariest part about this is, is he says that they are able to have.
house unlimited
payload capacity.
Unlimited.
Yes.
You know what that means?
Like nuclear bombs, anything.
Yeah, but you're talking about unlimited payload capacity.
That means that in their gravitational propulsion, they could house tons kill.
I mean, they could house weapons like we've never seen before in the size.
And they can hover over the White House is what he was saying.
Yes.
But this is what's crazy to me is we are, we're seeing huge.
drone activity. And to me, if this is China, this is their way of playing chess, like he was saying,
the things we can see. But there's not only things we can see. There's things that we can't see.
And I think that's what he was trying to get out too. Because obviously, everyone has seen the drones
in New Jersey and, you know, in other states and around there. And even Canada, I think our friend
Chris Perkins said he saw one in Canada today. But I think the point was, yeah, we're seeing the drones
with our site and we can video them, but there's also things that we can't see.
Yeah, you also have to understand that, you know, if they have this technology, which is what
Ashton Forbes has been saying for a very long time, we've talked about obviously the advanced
repulsion.
We've also talked about the UFO side, but also think in a lot of ways that vindicates Bob Lazar.
Maybe Bob Lazar did not 100% understand what he was witnessing and what he was a part of back in
area S4.
Yeah.
But you have to understand, Bob Lazar back in the early 90s, um, basically.
on his experiences in the late 80s in area S4, aka Area 51, where he's talking about,
hey guys, these craft that we have, they have no visible means of propulsion,
aka they were gravitational waves or gravitational fields around these craft.
This is also something we've talked about on this podcast for years.
When we've talked about the UFO phenomenon and how they would possibly be, you know, powered,
we've always said, and especially based on what Bob Lazar has talked about, what a lot of physicists have talked about, if you're going to have some type of craft that can move from zero to disappear in instantaneously, you've got to have some type of gravitational wave around the craft to be able to manipulate the gravity around, you know, itself.
And that's how you essentially move without any sound or whatever.
But the weird thing is with the drones, especially off the East Coast, these things not only did have sound, but some of the.
them then did not have sound. But that was like their check, like checkmate kind of thing. Like,
we want you to see what's going on and we're here and we want you to know it. But the strange thing is
that FBI and Homeland Security, they would not admit who it was or what it was. And they said,
we don't know what this is. But they do know what it is. It's China. Yeah, it sounds like it. Right. And,
you know, I'm sure there's some of you out there's like, this is some big sci up. They're trying to make you think is China. And they're using Sean Ryan
show and they're using this guy. I don't think so. I think in particular, this may very well be true.
Let's listen to some more of what this email said.
They're looking to move on me and are unlikely going to let me cross into Mexico, but won't
because they know I am armed and I have a massive V-bid. Let me pause right there for a second.
So he says a massive V-bid. When I was talking to the FBI yesterday, they didn't know what a V-Bid was.
I had to explain what that acronym meant, literally.
You fucking serious. I said it twice and he goes, you said that word V-Bid. Can you
tell me what that is. For your audience, a V-Bid, for your audience who has not been in the
Guad for the last 20 years, a V-bit is a vehicle-borne improvised explosive device in layman's
terms, a car bomb, what we saw at Trump Tower. So, backing up, he says, I am armed and have a
massive V-bid. I've been trying to maintain a very visible profile and have kept my phone,
and they are definitely digitally tracking me. Here's where he gets into the other stuff.
And this is where we had to redact the names. Well,
Your producer, redacted the names. I have knowledge of this program and also war crimes that were covered up during air strikes in Nimruz, province, Afghanistan, and 2019 by the admin, DOD, D-EA, and CIA.
I conducted targeting for these strikes of over 125 buildings. 65 were struck because of Civcast, that's civilian casualties, that killed hundreds of civilians in a single day.
U.S. fora continued strikes after spotting civilians on initial ISR. It was supposed to take six.
six minutes and scramble all aircraft and CENTCOM. The UN basically called these war crimes,
but the administration made them disappear. I was part of that cover up with US fora, an agent
redacted of the DEA. So I don't know if my abduction attempt is related to either. I worked with
Redacted. I.O. staff on this as well as the response to Bala Mugabe. Redacted commander at the time,
redacted can validate this. You need to elevate this to the media so we,
avoid a world war because this is a mutually assured destruction situation.
Then he says, for vetting, my LinkedIn is Matt Berg or Matthew Livelsberger, an active duty 18
Zulu out of 110 that's first battalion 10th special forces group.
My profile is public.
I have an active TSSCI with UAP, USAP access.
What is USAP?
Do you know what that is?
I don't know what that is.
But I checked his credentials on LinkedIn.
So that was the first thing I did.
I went to his LinkedIn page.
first thing I noticed was all of his bona fides were in place.
He has all the UAS training from use of sock and everything else.
And so I said, okay, at least the guy knows what he's talking about with drones.
That was a very rough dig into the guy.
But my issue was I couldn't validate or verify any of this information.
And I told him that.
And how I responded to him was in a subsequent email.
I said, this is obviously a very big deal,
but I don't have anything to verify this information with.
talking about gravidic propulsion systems without evidence just makes me another UFO talking head.
I'm not going to go on my social media page and start talking about UFOs and anti-gravity systems and everything.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I can't?
And he said, can I get on Fox News contact on Signal as well as Sean's show?
Hegg Seth would be good too.
That was his last message to me.
Wow.
Yeah.
You know, the thing is, what is a gravitic propulsion system?
To be honest with you, it is a fancy term.
you're going to find in science fiction.
You won't find it in any, as far as I know, you won't find this in any kind of official
manual or, you know, scientific research.
This is all, man, uh, the Ashton Forbes probably going to be busy every next few weeks
is all I'm saying because, you know, they're sitting here talking about this gravidic
propulsion system, but this is exactly what Ashton has been talking about for over a year now.
Our government has it.
Our government has it, hopefully, by the way.
And this guy is saying that China has it.
I mean, let's hope that our government has it because obviously China has it.
Now, I want to say something as well.
Do you remember our last drone episode?
And it could have been our last episode, actually, when we talked about Dr. Stephen Greer.
Now, think about this for a second, everybody.
And I don't know if this has anything to do with this or not.
But do you remember how Dr. Stephen Greer said he knew some very high up people that were in the government in these dark programs that were getting.
getting ready to come forward.
They were getting ready to whistleblow.
Yeah, I do.
And everybody was finally about to know the truth about what the hell was going on.
Do you even remember Dr. Stephen Greer talking about, and this was weeks ago.
Dr. Stephen Greer talking on the Dana Carvey and whatever the hell dude's name show is, where he's talking about there were instances of people being abducted in South America by craft what sounds like these gravidic propulsion system craft.
and they were U.S. military members or some type of U.S. someone that were piloting some of these crafts.
And so is Dr. Stephen Greer, like is, I wonder if he had any contact with maybe this Matthew guy.
I don't know, but what comes to my mind when we're talking about that and when he was reading the letter, the letter was war crimes.
Yeah.
He was whistleblowing about war crimes that America has done.
That he was a part of.
Yeah.
And yeah, he was a part of it.
He actually said that there was 125 buildings.
And 65 of them were civilian buildings that they went after.
Yeah, I think he said there was hundreds of civilian casualties a day during this operation.
And by the way, one of the guys that he worked with in this operation was a DEA agent.
For some reason, D.A was involved in this.
And they're going to get into the DEA aspect of this in just a minute.
But guys, this is the most groundbreaking shit that we've ever actually heard from a whistle.
And no wonder this guy is dead.
Well, yeah, you think about Dave Grush and all that stuff.
Listen, Dave Grush came forward and said, look, I know that we have had alien bodies
and, you know, I have worked with people that work directly with that.
We also have advanced propulsion systems.
Dave Grush has come out in front of Congress under oath, said all these things, said that,
hey, we can go into a skiff.
I can tell you about this.
But then every time they would try to go in a skiff, they tried to block that.
But then you have this Matthew guy that supposedly blue.
himself up, which we're going to get into the conspiracy around that.
How was he going to blow himself up if he's planning to go to Mexico and get out of here?
He knew he was being followed.
He had these explosives to protect himself from Homeland Security and FBI.
Because that's the only reason they did not move on him because they knew that he had this V-Bed, which is a vehicle-borne.
Yeah, but I'm just saying, why would you commit suicide if they're trying to protect yourself that much?
Yeah.
I don't think he committed suicide.
And I don't know if it's even his body that they found.
It probably is.
They're not going to be that dumb.
Oh, okay.
Well, they saw like partial tattoos, but they said his body was not recognizable.
No.
And listen, what I'm going to go ahead and tell you, well, I'm not going to tell you that yet.
We're going to talk about kind of the conspiracy around this in just a minute.
But he knew he wasn't going to make it to Mexico because as he said, there's probably no way that I will make it to Mexico.
Because they will.
He said he was hoping.
No, he said there's no way they'll let me cross into Mexico because once they cross it, then it's a whole other thing.
It's an international incident.
They'll probably more than likely lose him.
And so what I think happened, and we'll get in this in just a moment,
but I think they intercepted him somewhere in between,
in his drive when he had this V-Bed,
this vehicle-borne incinerate device essentially or explosive device.
They intercepted him somewhere.
Maybe he got out of the vehicle.
They caught his ass when he went to the gas station or bathroom or whatever the case
may have been.
They then shot him.
Yeah,
because I can't shoot him through the truck because his bullet probe.
Well,
well, the windows.
or not. No, but the windows are not.
Because I thought Elon tested that.
No, the windows, I don't believe, are bulletproof.
But the sides of the vehicle are bulletproof.
But he had a 50 caliber desert eagle handgun, which is, you know, a 50-
Yeah, but that's not what he even got shot by.
Well, I don't, whatever.
But my point to this, Sherry, is that I think that obviously he was shot prior to
ever being in front of Trump International.
Now, that even gets into a bigger conspiracy.
We all know that Tesla's can drive themselves.
Now, we know Tesla's can drive themselves.
If you go buy a Tesla, they have the lane change in and it can drive for you.
Now, who's to say, especially if FBI, Department of Justice, DOD, you name it.
This guy's a massive whistleblower, especially with this gravidic propulsion system.
He knows what's actually going on with the drones, which is the freaking entire United States government has been covering up for this long.
And so now you have all of the big dogs in the government saying, we got to do something about this.
Yeah, we got to get rid of him.
Yeah, we got to get rid of him.
We've got to kill him.
And if we have to make it look like a damn New Year's Eve terrorist attack in front of Trump International and he's driving a cyber truck, it's crazy.
But anyways, let's listen to a little more of what he has to say.
It's fiction.
So, but what struck me is his use, what strikes me now, not then, but what strikes me now is his use of a very specific term and nobody else call it.
If you asked me, I would say an anti-gravity propulsion system.
That's how I would describe it because I don't know this stuff.
He said gravidic propulsion system.
We looked that up last night, too, and all we could find was same thing, science fiction type stuff.
But, you know, there are some things that line up.
One is, like I had mentioned, well, let's talk about the guy's story.
Obviously, he had a VBID.
Obviously, he was in the military and served.
And the thing that he was talking about in 2019, we pulled a report.
This is from October 9th, 2019.
UN report find alleged drug facilities were not lawful target airstrikes caused and caused significant civilian casualties.
The United Nations Special Report, which examines the impact on civilians of the United States air strikes on alleged drug processing facilities on 5 May 2019 in Afghanistan determines the operation caused a large number of civilian casualties.
The report also examines the legal framework of applicable to this incident.
In June 2019, the UN assistance mission in Afghanistan, together with representatives of the Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission,
conducted to site visit to areas impacted by the strikes in Farah province, Bakwa District,
as part of its extensive fact-finding into the Five May incident.
The UN verified 39 civilian casualties, among them 14 children, one woman from multiple
airstrikes on more than 60 sites that the United States, Afghanistan, identified as drug production
facilities in Bakwa district and in parts of neighboring Delaram District of Nimraz Province.
Moreover, the UN is working to verify credible reports of at least 37 additional civilian casualties,
the majority of whom were women and children.
Although airstrikes on the alleged drug processing facilities had taken place before,
this was the first time that UNAMA had received reports of large number of civilian casualties resulting from such an operation.
And it goes on.
I'm not going to read all this.
We'll link the article here.
So that 100% lines up.
The other thing, you know, that really really,
struck me as like I had mentioned after our phone call jumped in an interview after the interview
checked my phone and I had several green berets former green berets one still active actually I'm just
going to say it was Tim Kennedy sent me a message late last night about 9 p.m. and said hey the I should
have brought my phone up here but hey basically that the the use of
SOSOC wants to give me more context on what had happened, on this guy.
And so first, I wasn't going to take the call because I don't like, I don't trust the
government anymore.
I don't think anybody does.
But I was on the phone with my producer, who was a naval surface warfare officer and
my attorney, Tim Parletory, they said we should talk to him.
So I called Tim, was really pissed off, reamed his ass about it, and then later apologized.
But, you know, I think you said you had mentioned that nobody, you'd received a message from somebody that says nobody's heard of this guy.
Tim sent me a picture of him working, shooting with this guy.
And I don't know if I should release that photo or not, but Tim basically told me this.
So I got the POA's number of the public.
I want to point out something here for just a second, by the way, about Tim Kennedy.
Some of you might know who Tim Kennedy is.
Tim Kennedy first, I guess, came to fame.
He has a YouTube channel.
But when he started going on the Joe Rogan podcast is when he kind of really blew up.
And Tim Kennedy has had this YouTube channel.
It talks about Green Bray stuff, you know, firearm stuff, you name it.
And then there was a lot of, there were, there were some things that came out, especially after some shootings that happened, like school shootings and some of these other things to where he would do these interviews.
And he would talk about how gun control is a really valid thing that we should be talking about.
We should be doing.
And then so everyone in the gun community all of a sudden that always respected Tim Kennedy came out and was like, whoa, wait a minute.
What the hell are you saying, dude?
You're supposedly this big gun guy that's all about our constitution.
served in the Green Beret or as a Green Beret.
And now all of a sudden it's like you're going with the government on this shit, like about
gun control.
And so all, like a lot of the people, you know, that were in the gun community, all of a sudden
started being like, wait, maybe we should reevaluate who Tim Kennedy really is.
And Kennedy, you know, he's a decorated member of the United States Armed Special
Forces Green Beret.
He enlisted in September 11, 2001 after the terrorist attacks and served in several roles,
including sniper, combative instructor, and counterterrorism.
operator. He was deployed multiple times to combat zones. He's known for balancing his military
career and his athletic pursuits. He's also involved with special operations forces and training
programs. He's also kind of done a lot of the MMA stuff, television and media. He's hosted and appeared
on shows like Hunting Hitler and History Channel. This guy is someone that it always seemed to me
kind of very similar also to Michael Baker. I don't know if you remember Michael Baker that goes on
Joe Rogan show. He's the CIA guy. That was a CIA officer. And every time Michael Baker would go on Joe Rogan, you could just read the comments. And everyone was like, yeah, if this isn't a CIA plant to make the CIA look better, then I don't know who the hell is. Tim Kennedy is also, I think, kind of maybe in that same vein. And so, of course, who does Sean Ryan hear from right after all this shit? He says, hey, the whoever. I guess I've got to talk to you before you do this interview. Yeah, the Army.
chief of staff or whoever says, hey, you need to hear more about this, like to give context
to this.
And Sean Ryan cussed his ass out.
I mean, it even shows the text here.
And Sean Ryan in the text, it reads that the last part, he says, my apologies for flipping
out on you.
I get paranoid about shit sometimes.
Sean Ryan, let me tell you, you should be paranoid if you're talking to Tim Kennedy.
Because if you don't trust the government, you probably shouldn't trust him.
And I'm not saying that for sure.
I don't know that for sure.
I'm alleging this.
All I'm saying is, just go look up Tim Kennedy.
It's just funny if he flips on the gun community, then there's something up with him that he is more of a government op than a citizen op.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I mean, and listen, there are guys like Sean Ryan, and I will give Sean Ryan all the credit in the world.
This dude has been involved in a lot of shit, intelligence-wise.
And I think it's because of Sean Ryan and because he's been involved in all these ops, that he now has a huge platform like he does.
And he doesn't trust the government.
You shouldn't because if you've ever worked for the government, you know that you can't trust him.
You should know.
You're either going to be on two sides.
You're going to be on the side that you lie and tell the American people you trust the government just to make them look better.
Or you're going to actually go out against what you know and talk out against it.
And you have that there's really no in between there.
I want to just play a couple more minutes of this.
And then we're going to get into some of the conspiracies around this.
And then we'll close this.
Listen.
Affairs officer sent it to Jeremy and Tim.
He talked to them.
and what they wanted us to know was that this guy was an upstanding soldier, an excellent operator,
was moving on, was moving towards retirement and moving on to basically enhance the future of warfare.
They wanted us to know that.
Then the PA officer sounds like almost jokingly said, which I don't know why you would joke about this,
said that oh and between us
which
why the fuck would a P.O.A. officer
say between us. I mean, if they didn't want us to know that information
and they just wouldn't have told us that. But they wanted us to know
obviously that the DNA
with his with his supposed child
was not a match. And so I think what they were trying to do
is basically make this out to be, oh, this is why.
this happened, he got bad news that that's not his child. And so that's why he did it. But
with all the other context, especially with the 2019 incident, which was obviously a cover-up,
I think that has a major role in this. The other thing is, I started receiving a lot of
messages from one of the redacted names, who's a DEA agent, the one that he's talking about
in the email to you.
We got it from multiple sources,
one of which was actually a videographer for me,
I think four years ago.
He worked for me a very short period of time.
I had to let him go.
He went to, he joined the Army,
went to OCS, became an Army officer,
sent me a text, super freaked out.
Apparently he was on some rafting trip
with somebody that knows the DEA officer.
and said, hey, this guy's still operational.
He wants his name redacted.
Wow.
Not the only one.
Then I received a message from another very close friend of mine,
who's been on the show several times, saying that he got word that this guy was still operational.
And so that's why we decided to redact his name.
I was getting upset because I didn't receive any communication up to that point.
Well, then I checked my LinkedIn.
I said, let me see if this guy actually messaged me.
Sure as shit, that DEA agent did message me, said that he wanted to talk to me before
tomorrow's interview.
It was really important.
We tried to contact him, not from my phone.
I'm not calling any of these people, but from somebody else's phone, he didn't pick up.
And we weren't going to send any text thread to show any communication between us.
any more than the LinkedIn message.
And I didn't hit him on LinkedIn.
So that also 100% checks out.
Now, the weird thing is, is anonymous as this guy wants to remain.
If I remember correctly, he posted something about the Green Beret that I'm off.
Yeah.
That was his latest post.
Well, Jeremy, what was it?
What in the post?
It was just a report of the story.
It was just, yeah, it was just a report.
of the story. So very interesting how all this stuff is lining up. What do you think?
I told the guys down this downstairs. You know, I jokingly said this to my wife the day that I got
that email because I read the email to her. You all have heard the email now. You realize
without context of who this person is, how just crazy it sounds. And I told her, I said, well, I mean,
I guess if the dude ends up getting rolled up by the feds or he gets killed, we got a story,
huh?
Man, famous last words, right?
Yeah.
So I look at it.
And I want to give context on one of the things.
I saw this.
I saw this going around on social media.
People were saying that his signal chat, his safety number changed.
I don't know if you saw this on X, but it was all over X.
Apparently his safety number on signal change.
He messaged me on signal.
So I went on there to look myself to see if it changed.
And sure enough, it had on.
January 1st after the bombing, after he was dead. His safety number changed. That's all he sent me. He said
initial contact and I gave a thumbs up and his safety number changed at the bottom. Look at that.
That's after he's dead. I don't know enough about signal to know why that would happen. Somebody has to
have manipulated that, though, and messed with it. Somebody had to have been in his account after the fact and
done something for that to have changed. What did the FBI say when he contacted him?
not a lot i gave them i gave them the story on what went down um was very over the top telling them
hey i am being transparent every way i you know feel free to contact me at any time this is my
address my name this is why he contacted me this is my social media page this is any reason
why this could have happened why i this got dumped on me this is the information they took it they
were gracious they were nice to talk to mind you i had to explain what a vbid was which was
disheartening because you're the FBI, but that's another issue altogether.
But nothing beyond that.
They said, thank you, and we'll be in touch if we have any further questions.
Well, they definitely got in touch with CID.
Yeah, they did.
Because that went all the way to the top of the Army.
All right.
So there we go, guys.
And listen, this is bad shit crazy because, number one, it sounds like that most things
can be validated.
Obviously, there's really no possible way to validate 100.
100% with certainty that this guy talking about the drones and anti-gravitic or gravidic
propulsion systems off the East Coast and over the United States of America is China.
You can't validate that 100%.
But why would he lie about that when he's telling the truth about everything else?
And then it's like Sam Shoemate says here.
He says, you know, I was telling my wife.
He's like, if this dude gets killed, we're going to know why.
And I'm telling you, when you think about somebody.
moving towards retirement, you're looking at retirement to have like money given to you and
you don't have to work anymore.
That's what you want.
And that's what you're looking for.
This guy was trying to get to Mexico to get out of the United States because he knew he was
being followed by the FBI in Homeland Security.
And I just think it's crazy that they bring up the DNA of his son.
I almost feel like I swear to God, I feel like they took the burnt body and we're trying to match the DNA
to his son to, you know, like do the genealogy and stuff.
And it didn't match.
Because it might not be his.
And if you listen to the interview further, they go into that and they think that he still
could be alive.
Yeah.
I mean, that's, you know, that's possible.
You know, there's also the other aspect of it that he was dead when he showed up there,
right?
Maybe someone, I wouldn't say that necessarily like someone would have actually been in the vehicle
with him, drove him there and then got out because you have security cameras.
I mean, even though if you are the federal government, you could just wipe the security cameras around there or whatever.
You could probably do that.
But it's also just interesting.
Of course, this is in Las Vegas again.
You remember the Las Vegas shooting.
You remember all this shit.
But what I think, I mean, this is a big conspiracy.
And they talk about this actually, I believe, in this episode.
Sherry, you watched the entire episode.
But I'm pretty sure they even talked about it.
Well, you know that Tesla can drive themselves places, right?
And so what if he was shot beforehand?
He was shot somewhere else, you know, not.
And then drove them to drove right in front of there.
And then they detonated the vehicle.
And if you guys go to this interview and watch further, it gets into some more crazy conspiracies.
I'm talking about like Iran actually has missiles within the United States.
And the origin of these missiles were to shoot down Trump's plane.
And now they are in the United States.
Like, we are not safe anymore.
No, absolutely not.
I mean, but you have to understand, like, the consequences of what we have, what, what,
the administration we have had for the past four years, literally senile administration,
like, what do you think the consequences of that would be?
If you have massive powers like China that are, that are obviously way ahead of the game,
as far as our, as far as their, their gravidic propulsion systems, their weapon systems,
all this shit. And then you have the Biden administration that are complete effing morons. I think for a
reason, by the way, I think if anything, you know, we've always heard all this talk.
We've heard all this talk about, oh, Russia collusion and Russia interference in elections and this.
Listen, I'm not saying Russia do not have hackers. I'm not saying that they're not smart and
they don't have intelligence and all this shit. What I will say, though, is that Russia has
definitely struggled with Ukraine because of the United States, right?
Oh, absolutely.
But I don't know why that is.
I don't know why.
I'm sorry.
But yeah, you're definitely right, though.
But what I'm saying is that, you know, you have Russia that has struggled for this long with Ukraine.
But China's not going to struggle.
If we get into a situation where they want to take over Taiwan and we want to keep China from taking over Taiwan, China is just a different beast.
and we have to understand that what Ashton Forbes and has been promoting and talking about as far as what happened to MH370,
which did have, it did have these semiconductor scientists on board this aircraft that were Chinese.
Yeah. And then this thing gets abducted, taking to God knows where potentially.
This makes complete sense, especially if you're saying that both these vehicles, I mean, sorry, both these countries have this type of technology.
guys, this is one of the most groundbreaking stories of our time.
And what I am most curious about is to see how long it takes mainstream media to say a damn word about it.
Because it's not like anyone trust mainstream media anymore whatsoever anyways.
But this is just going to be yet another Nell and mainstream media is coughing.
If they do not pick this shit up fast and start talking about this, it's going to be.
And again, our government comes on and says, we don't know what these drones are.
We don't know who they are.
We don't know.
They're not foreign adversaries.
They're not this.
They're not that.
Yeah.
But I think all along they do know what it is.
Yeah, they lie.
Exactly.
They've lied.
Because they lie to us over and over again.
And how do they expect us to trust them when they lie to us like this?
No, you can't.
There's no way you can trust this government whatsoever anymore.
There's going to be a lot more to talk about this.
And, you know, even back to what you were saying, the fact that Iran could have nuclear here,
I don't know if that's true, but what I can tell you...
No, well, they just said there was missiles here.
Oh, missiles, got you.
Missiles that are actually in our country that were brought here to take down Trump in his aircraft.
Well, that's all very possible, I guess, right?
I mean, but and there's maybe parts of this...
This was from one of the redacted people that they were talking about on the podcast.
Yeah.
I mean, look, I'm not saying it's not possible.
There's so much crazy shit going on right now.
And when I say that we got, what, 16?
days left or whatever until the inauguration.
I think that things are going to ramp up fast.
What I will say, and I want to close with this because I want to talk about this in a way
that, you know, when we were on telegram the other night, we have telegram.
And we did update our telegram following over there more than we probably did X or anybody
else.
Because there was a couple of times we went live there.
And I just want to talk with some of our close net people.
And by the way, any of you can be those people.
So if we ever go live, go to Telegram, create an account.
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us. But what I will say is we're about 16 days out to the inauguration. And one of the things
I told people on Telegram the other day is, you know, especially with this sickness, I've been
sick since the beginning or actually before Christmas. Yeah, I think you have COVID for the
first time. I've had it like six times. Yeah, I probably have COVID for the first time this turned
into like either pneumonia or bronchitis. I'm not sure. But one of the things I told people on
Telegram is, you know, I think with my journey, especially like as far as religion, not even a
religion, just my belief, my spirituality and all that stuff, you know, in 2025, one of the things I want to
do with you guys is I want to be very transparent on my journey with that. I'm not saying that we're
going to be preachers because I'm not because I struggle all the time. But there's one thing when you get
sick for so long, especially as bad as it's been. And then you just kind of look at the world as it is.
I mean, look at, you know, it's kind of like almost a new awakening for me in some ways because
not only has just bat shit crazy been happening, right?
I mean, with the first part of the year, the drone stuff, then you have these bombshells.
Oh, God.
That's terrible.
And then at the same time, real quick, I just want to pray for those people real quick.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, we definitely got to pray for all the innocent people that died is horrific.
And we're going to have an episode on the New Orleans thing in this entirety over the next
couple days. But one of the things that when you're when you feel vulnerable, especially like I
have to where like I've not hardly been able to do anything, not be able to move, not been on
do podcasts, not be able to talk to you guys. It's been depressing. It's been very, I don't, I don't
know what the word is, but I've been very vulnerable. And at in, in that vulnerability, I've had
to really dive deep and to say like, what is, what am I going to do for 2025? Like, what is my
goal? Like, what, what do I want to achieve? What is the things that are most important to me?
and the thing that's most important to me has always been,
besides Sherry and my family,
is this podcast since we've started it.
And the reason why it's been the most important is because we feel like
that you guys are a family,
you guys are close to us.
And when we're not around and we don't have you guys to talk to,
it's really hard as well.
But I just want to be transparent in my journey of spirituality in this next year.
I'm going to,
I'm probably going to struggle.
I'm going to have questions.
I'm going to talk about things.
But I want to be able to talk about those things to you guys.
over this next year and I want to be able to tell you guys what my thoughts are on a daily basis.
And we're probably going to argue about it.
And we could, right?
And I think that sometimes good.
But, you know, the last thing I'll say is that hopefully this year in 2025 that we can all get closer to God or our spiritual, our spiritual inner, I guess you can say, our spiritual self.
I feel like I'm going to do that in 2025.
And we want to do the very best for you guys in reporting the best we can of what we see and what's happening.
Because just because Trump's coming in and this new administration does not mean this shit's over, it could get bad fast.
Because we don't know how the new administration is going to handle China if this is the case.
And, you know, when he, when Matthew-
If I know Trump, he's going to handle China quick.
But we don't know.
But you also have to understand.
And Trump has said numerous times and numerous times he said, you know, we always think about nuclear is like the biggest thing ever.
But he's like most people do not realize just how.
dangerous and how
earth-shattering some of our
weaponry is that people have in
this world right now. And he said that
numerous times and I think he knows.
And not only that, but how much
land China owns in America
right now? Like, why did we
ever let them own any land
in America makes me go
oh my gosh, I just want to pull my
hair out? It's because we have an enemy
within. They have infiltrated our
government. They have infiltrated our
real estate. They have infiltrated our everything.
our cell phones, our technology, our media.
China in a large part has infiltrated us.
And I honestly believe we have Chinese spies in our government.
Oh, yeah.
We have Congress people that slept with Chinese spies.
You know, we have literal Chinese police stations in New York City that's supposedly
there to just be watching for their Chinese nationals.
But it's just absolutely crazy where we're at right now in 2025.
Yeah, we've got to get rid of all that stuff.
And guys, we're going to do, listen, our very, very best.
to keep you informed.
Once again, we are very sorry that we've been gone for a little bit,
but man,
we are excited about 2025.
We hope that you guys stick with us and share our episode with everybody.
Listen,
what I will say is we do pray for all the people that lost our lives in New Orleans.
And the last thing I will say is that Matthew,
Livellsburger,
is more than likely a hero patriot to America.
I agree.
That was probably doing his very best to expose the shit.
that he felt like was the right thing to do.
And unfortunately, the government probably came along and said,
sorry, this is what happens to people that want to expose us.
Yep.
Guys, until next time, we love you all very much.
We'll talk to you very soon.
Love you guys.
Peace out.
Now, what's going in?
You had so much to give.
So you did.
With your hands are gone.
You don't know until you lost some of.
Oh, yeah.
May flies in the fate.
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