Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Liver King vs Joe Rogan | The Meat, The Lies, The Threats

Episode Date: June 28, 2025

In this explosive episode, we dive headfirst into the raw beef between fitness fraudster Liver King and podcast powerhouse Joe Rogan. From liver-eating influencer to exposed steroid user, Liver King��s fall from grace gets uglier as threats toward Rogan surface — but is it real, or just another primal publicity stunt? We break down the timeline of lies, the ancestral BS, Rogan’s brutal takedowns, and what this whole mess says about the fitness industry today. Plus, we touch on other shady wellness gurus, fad diets, and why “fake natty” culture might be more dangerous than you think. Steroids, scams, and savage takedowns — this one gets juicy.Check Our Merchandise: https://investigateearthstore.com

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I'm your host chat alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. On tonight's episode, we got a wild one because the feud between Joe Rogan and self-reclaimed liver king, Brian Johnson, has officially gone off the rails. What started is some jabs over steroids. and lifestyle fraud is now turned into full-blown chaos, Liver King recently launched a bizarre and intense social media campaign, calling out Rogan by name, threatening to fight him, and even showing up in Austin shirtless weapon in hand acting like a gladiator on TikTok. Rogan didn't just ignore it. He called the cops, and according to reports, he told them he believed Johnson was unstable and possibly dangerous. Within hours, Liver King was arrested

at the four seasons in Austin on charges of making terroristic threats, but instead of backing down, he doubled down more videos, more threats, more theatrics. He's now under court orders to stay away from Rogan and undergo a mental health evaluation, but he's still out there, ankle monitor and all, claiming the fight is happening one way or the other. So the question is, is this just another influencer meltdown or the beginning of something much darker about internet fame, masculinity, or maybe even mental health? Guys, welcome to the show. It is June the 26, 2025. The name of this song is Burn Away by Nick Caution and it makes me want this fight to happen.

Who can we get this fight to happen? Can we promote this fight? Oh my gosh, Chad. We cannot do that because I'm just sorry. Liver King would be blown away by Joe Rogan. There is no question I have read all over the internet. I know about Joe. You know, he's a black belt and Liver King would kind of made himself overnight where

Joe Rogan had more discipline and endurance and he works his ass off and he knows how to fight. Yeah. Joe Rogan is obviously in the UFC MMA realm. He is extensively trained. And it's not even just that man. Joe Rogan has so many people around him that kind of protect him, especially considering how huge that he is in the space of podcasters or especially independent media.

And then you have this liver king guy that comes along. And I guess he gets pissed off because something that Rogan had originally said about two years ago on a podcast where Rogan wasn't necessarily the first person to call out the liver king as far as the fact that liver king essentially had this supplement company, but he didn't just have a supplement company. He tried to betray to everyone that everything he did, how ripped he was, how insane he looked was because of eating liver and raw meats and organ meats and so on and so forth. So when people started to call him out, including a couple of Joe Rogan's friends,

well, Joe Rogan did bring on one of those friends to his podcast. and it was probably about a 15 to 25 minute segment where Joe Rogan destroys Liver King. And you have to understand that if you have built your entire business around this idea, that you have done this all naturally, and as long as that people just follow either your supplements, your lifestyles, et cetera, et cetera, then they're going to look just like you. And that was the facade.

It is fraud, really. I mean, it is a fraud type lifestyle because you say that this is how, happen and as long as you do this, then you can also do this. And that's just not the case. So a lot of people, a lot of especially the, you know, the muscle fitness influencers called him out, although some actually questioned like, could he actually be natural? Coming to find out he wasn't. And then Jur Rogan called him out on that stuff. But. Well, I've even heard rumors that he has implants in his six pack. Yeah. That they're not actually muscles, but he had them implanted. Well, I mean, the guy don't even have a six pack. He has like an eight pack.

And I mean, it looks ridiculous or eight or ten pack. Yeah, like his belly button sticks out. Yeah. It looks really unorganic. Yeah, for sure. I mean, it does. And look, there are definitely guys to get implants in their calf muscles. I actually knew a guy that had calf muscle implants.

There are guys to get, you know, the ab implants, bicep implants. There's all kinds of craziness. Peck implants. So for everybody, all the guys I want to say, oh, my God, that girl looks so fake. She has breast implants. She has this. Guys do that too. They do. Not maybe as much as girls do, but definitely guys do it.

So what we're going to talk about is this feud. I'm sure some of you have heard about this feud. And, you know, we're only like one day away from vacation. We were going to have a pretty extensive episode on Enoch or kind of some of the biblical stuff tonight. But we decided to push that back until next week because I believe tomorrow we're going to be recording an episode with Sherry and one of our good friends, Brittany, talking about UFOs, something in UFOs, stuff like this. some of the same stuff that Chris Bledso often talks about and refers to. And so we're going to record that episode tomorrow probably will not be released until Sunday, but we're going to bring James on to talk and kind of comment about some of your experiences,

Sherry, some of Brittany's experiences, and then maybe how some of that relates biblically and in the Bible. And it kind of does for sure tie back to the book of Enoch, the giants, the Nephlam, you know, and the watchers. And I think that's probably the best way to do this. So we were like, you know what, let's just do a fun episode tonight. The Joe Rogan and Liver King feud is pretty fun. It is fun for us, but I don't think it's fun for Joe Rogan right now. No, it's not.

Well, and here's the thing. So as influencers and as people out there that talk about topics that are controversial or, you know, like for Sherry and I, and I think Joe Rogan is probably more so like this than sometimes even we are. But, you know, when Joe Rogan brings on a guest on his show, is literally just him and the guest having a conversation like they are in a bar or a living room or something else, right? So Joe has gotten so used to this, doing this for so long that he doesn't really, I think, contemplate necessarily that he is on camera.

He does have an average of 11 million downloads or views on basically every platform that he's on. And so his word, I mean, obviously look at, you know, what he did and how much influence he had over not just the 2024 presidential election, many people think that Joe Rogan actually partially massively, and I say partially massively, because there's some people that say he absolutely influenced the election results as far as when he brought Trump on and he had J.D. Vance on and then Kamala refused to go on. Right.

You know, he really did make a difference on the election, but then also he made a huge difference during COVID-19. And so when he would bring on people like Robert Malone and Dr. Peter McCullough, and then you had the mainstream media that was just completely attacking and trying to destroy him and his credibility. Even when he got COVID, they literally put a filter on Joe Rogan's video that they showed on CNN that made him look green like he was dying of, I don't know, gang green or something. I mean, I don't know if this was like a new thing for COVID, but that's what mainstream media

did. And mainstream media knows the threat of independent media. And mainstream media is quickly dying. I still don't 100% understand how we have mainstream media like we do, but we do. We still have CNN, although their numbers have just completely went, you know, to the basement. You know, you have Fox News, but even Fox News. A lot of the conservatives or people on the right are starting not to even believe them. And there's various reasons for that, like the Israel-Iran war.

And so there's just, I've said this many times. There's a great awakening. But this is also the best time ever to be an independent journalist or independent. independent podcaster or show host because you have an opportunity to get a message out to people. And that is what Joe Rogan has done so well. Obviously, Joe has consistently talked about in the past that he said, you know, look, when me and Brian Redband started this, which by the way, I don't know if anybody knows, but if you watch Kill Tony and the Brian Redband guy that does all the computer stuff and all that, that is

who Joe Rogan started the podcast with like 13 years ago. Yeah. Like he was the first one that started podcasts. Yeah. It was really Joe Rogan's idea to do this whole. thing in the first place. Well, yes, absolutely. But Joe Rogan said that he got his idea from Tom Green. Now, for those that don't know who Tom Green is, Tom Green used to have a show on MTV called the Tom Green show. And a lot of what Tom Green did was he brought the production inside of his own home for the Tom Green show. So Tom Green had full production control over his show. And this was really kind of like

the first podcast was Tom Green. And then so when Joe Rogan had, discussed with Tom Green and kind of went on and did his thing. It was kind of Joe's idea. It's like, hey, we can do something like this. We can just get on camera and talk shit and do whatever we want to do. And obviously in the beginning, it was just Brian Redband and Joe Rogan, every single episode talking crazy shit about whatever. And that's what makes podcasting so fun. When you get to hear people like they're in your living room, you don't have to be there with them and you develop a relationship with these people. And so for Joe Rogan over the years, obviously he has massively, massively blown up. And the same for

Sherry and I, not on that level. No, I would like to be. No, not on that level. But, you know, over the years, you know, we have gained a loyal following. And we're very, we're very happy for that and fortunate and blessed for that. We love all of you guys. And so Joe Rogan, though, also as I was talking about, does have opinions on things that other people are going to hear.

And unfortunately, for Brian Johnson, aka Liver King, Joe Rogan started talking about this on his massively, massively successful podcast at the worst possible time for Liver King Brian Johnson. Because in from what I've, from what I've kind of looked at, Brian Johnson, liver king, there was a lot of people already starting to call him out. So he was already trying to do some type of damage control. He had to literally release an apology video. And so when he releases this apology video, he's like, hey, maybe this will work.

Maybe we can be good from this. And then Joe Rogan does. 25 minute segment on this. And this is what really puts the dagger in his heart. You know, Liver King is all about ancestral tendencies. He's barbarian. He's all this stuff. So if you want to like talk about semantics, like I guess what Joe Rogan actually did was

put a spear in your heart as a barbarian. And so liver king has went off the freaking deep end. And a lot of people right now are wondering, is this dangerous or is Joe Rogan a P word? I've also seen the other side of this where everybody's like, oh, Jerry Rogen's such a badass, but yeah, he called the cops on Liver King because he wants to challenge him to a fight. Listen, the reality of this is this is not just challenging someone to a fight, especially when you are doing videos where you have a weapon in the video. That's a different scenario.

Yeah. And even in his videos, he's like, you know, I have really nothing to lose but my family. You know, I have my family here, but we're going to fight. And I'm going to do it one way or not. I mean, he's threatening him, basically. Yeah. And I don't think it's worth Joe Rogan's time at this point to even contemplate the idea of fighting this guy. No, absolutely.

It's a ridiculous idea. Yeah, I mean, listen, we've had a lot of threats on our, I mean, coming through social media or whatever, death threats from various factions of people. I mean, it's just every other week. Like, who is the person we piss off this week? Is it Israel? Is it Iran? Is it Antifa, BLM, LGBTQ+, conservatives, Democrats? I mean, literally, and someone had asked us this the other day.

I said, why do you guys have like a lower rating on Spotify? I was like, well, because we pissed off everybody like almost every other week. And sometimes, sometimes that people that used to love us and we've got messages like this, they'll be like, look, I loved you until you said this. Yeah, now I hate you. Yeah. And so it's like you can't win for losing. And we're always trying to get through this whole life of being podcasters.

We're not trying to get through it without pissing people off. We're just trying to get through it being authentic as possible. Exactly. And that's what we're trying to do. Sometimes we piss each other off. So, oh, absolutely. Welcome to the club, bros.

Yeah, absolutely. So the liver king, whose real name is Brian Johnson, is a controversial internet personality, bodybuilder, entrepreneur, who rose to fame by promoting an ancestral lifestyle focused on consuming raw animal organs, especially liver, hence the nickname.

So he was born in 1977, uh, supplement company owner, ancestral supplements, heart and soil. He does not have a military background, but his rise to fame when he is when he went viral in the early 2020s through TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube by posting extreme videos of himself, such as eating raw liver, testicles, bone marrow, other organ meats. He was working out shirtless with claims or sorry, with chains, logs and primal tools. He's living by the nine ancestral tenets, which includes sleep, eat, move, shield, connect, cold, sun, fight and bond. And he claimed his lifestyle could help modern men overcome depression, obesity, weakness that was caused by the subprimal modern world.

Now, here's some of the controversies. The steroid use is number one. For years, Liver King insisted he was natural and built his physique solely on diet and ancestral practices. And then in 2022, leaked emails revealed, he was secretly using over $10,000 a month worth of anabolic steroids and also what is known as HGH. human growth hormones. He later apologized publicly admitting the deception. And then you think about the marketing criticism. Obviously, many critics argue his extreme persona and health claims were used to sell supplements, many of which are freeze-draught organ meats. And others say his brand profits from promoting dangerous eating habits, especially for young men. And so there's a lot of stuff to this,

right? He obviously made multi-millions of dollars based on the fact that he said, hey, I'm all natural. I am jacked. Look how big I am. Look how amazing I look. And all you got to do is exactly what I do. So I think what we need to do before we get into Liver King's videos, the stuff that he has been posting that got him arrested in Austin, Texas, is we at the least have to play the Joe Rogan video. What I think really started all this. Yeah, this was a catalyst.

And so if you listen to the Joe Rogan interview with, I can't even remember who the. what the guy's name is now. But he had this guy on. He has another big YouTube channel. He's a fitness influencer. Joe Rogan brought him on. And this is kind of when they got pretty deep into, you know, is this liver king full of shit? Or what do you think about him?

Listen. Hey, Derek, you know how I got so jacked? How? I followed the nine ancestral tenants. Oh, I heard that works really well. It's the best way. Yeah. Boy, when I saw that video that you posted.

You actually sent me the video after I'd already seen it. I caught it like within three minutes of you posting it. Oh, my God. I saw it. It just showed up on my YouTube feed. I'm like, oh, yes, here we go. And it wasn't surprised at all. No.

I mean, it's all, it seems completely makes sense, but that's exactly what I expected. Yeah, it seemed like just a matter of time for him. There's no way you can look like that. No. In your 40s, that jack. I mean, he's preposterously, Jack. Do we have a fucking... Now that we know.

know that he's full of shit. We're talking about the liver king, by the way, ladies and gentlemen. A lot of people are they saying. This is all inside stuff. There's a guy, if you don't know who the liver king is, he's a guy who calls himself the liver king, and he's this guy who walks around everywhere with no shirt on. I've seen him in Vegas with no shirt on, big bushy beard, super jacked, and he was telling people that the way he gets that way is by sunning his balls. He literally lays down with his asshole staring at the sun and eats raw liver. And he's, and he's really, he gets raw liver. and just lifts like a maniac, and that's how he's so jack. But it's preposterous.

Yeah, too many polar extremes to have just like a unique marketing spin that was just highly viral, in my opinion. And I don't know, most people could see through it, but at the same time, he would, like, there was a lot of big names that even reached out to me after the video came out and they were like, you know, I didn't think he was natural, but this guy literally right to my face would say, like blatantly. I am natural. And like a lot of people will take a guy at its word at his word when it's like a private conversation.

And if he's straight up telling you in person, yeah, it's actually legit. I'm natural. And he was just lying out through his fucking teeth seemingly. Yeah. And isn't it weird? Because imagine all the guys that follow his nine ancestral tendencies. And imagine all the dudes that were out there in their backyards that were butt-necked with their legs above their head, putting their butt into the sun. and then someone comes out and he's like,

what are you doing? I'm like, I'm on a new diet. I'm sending my balls. Yeah, and my butt. Don't worry. I promise it's going to speed up my metabolism and I'm going to lose weight. I'm going to get ripped. Look at this picture of this guy that does his every day.

So, of course, I got to do this, right? But this is also kind of the reality of diets nowadays. It's unbelievable. It's bad diets in general. There's so many of them out there. And you don't know which ones to trust. But I think it's really sad when somebody promotes something like this eating liver meat where it can actually an organ meat, where it can actually hurt somebody's body by eating too many organ meats. Yeah.

I mean, it can give you. Pangotitis. Yeah. There's a lot of things. There's a lot of health hazards going on this. And he was lying to people and making tons of money with his supplements. But what I will say. But what I will say is that liver meats are the most nutritional meats of any animal.

There is no question about you. Yeah, but you only need like four ounces of it to get the multiple vitamins that you need, the vitamin A and all that. Yeah. You know what's interesting, too, is that, you know, if you have a Facebook account or Instagram or crowd and listen, ladies, if you're one of those women out there that do this, I'm sorry. But I'm just saying, if you have an Instagram or Facebook account. You're probably talking about me. No, not, not, no, not you. I'm talking about these diet influencers or people that are really trying to push these new fad diets.

And it's always interesting. Because before O Zimpic, let me just explain something for a minute. Before O Zimpec didn't know anything about a Zimbik. No one knew about a Zimic. They were all pushing these fad diets for like a year. And then nothing was happening. They would literally, I would literally see some of these people do before and after pictures that looked exactly the same.

And I was just like, how in the hell are these people selling this shit? And sometimes they would, you know, they would try their very best to suck in their belly or suck and do whatever they possibly could. And then, O-Zembit comes around. And so now they're selling these diet fads, these diet programs. No, no, they're not selling shots. Okay. They're selling the diet programs.

And yet they're taking OZMPIC. So then all of a sudden, those same women that you saw for years that were pushing some bullshit that they never look different. Now all of a sudden, they are like 110 pounds. And they look like their faces sunken in. And they're like, look, ladies, this is what this diet program you can do for you. And they're literally secretly on Ozimic. Yeah.

And you can point somebody out a mile away that's on Zimbik because something happens to them with that weight loss. It's not just losing the fat. They're losing the muscle and the tone in their skin. And you can see it in their faces, their arms. It doesn't look like they lost the weight naturally or organically. It looks bad. It makes you look older. It does not look good.

Even though I've told Chad, I was like, God, I need to get on that for like a couple but I don't want to look like that. You know, I've got to do it naturally and I have to be authentic about it and disciplined and have endurance and keep up a good, stable diet. Yeah, and I think part of the problem with those Zempic is, is, you know, women or both men also, you know, they look at this as like the magic bullet. But the reality is there's no such thing as a magic bullet. And, you know, it will deplete you of nutrients.

It will deplete you of being able to eat. A lot of people have, I mean, I think we're going to see a lot of. lot of side effects down the road. We're already starting to see these. Some people going blind. Their stomachs are like numb and they don't feel their stomachs anymore. There's a lot of bad things. Well, it's just, yeah, paralyzes your stomach. Yeah, paralyzes it. And so therefore your digestion is not working the same way. None of this stuff. It is not a good thing. Ozympic was actually made for people with diabetes to kind of save their life. But when you are, when you don't have diabetes and you start doing this, it's not necessarily a good thing. Now, I'm not saying that.

that if you are in some type of life-threatening health situation to where you are completely morbibly obese and maybe something like this would help you. But it's just Ozympic and some of these shots understand that it is the bio or it is the pharmaceutical companies that are making all the money. They're making tons of money off of this stuff. And they're going to do it until it comes out that these studies show that it's given these people whatever disease that this has given them. And there's been so many of those things that have happened.

And not only that, when they stop taking the shots, they gain the weight back and plus some. Yeah, for sure. And usually they have some type of long-term issue from it anyway. So anyways, let's listen to us some more of this interview. There's some people that are really jacked that are natural. For sure. Some people that are like super, super disciplined. They, you know, they're taking supplements, but all legal supplements that you get at like a vitamin store.

and they're just like, they've never gotten off the grind. And who's that guy, Paul Scler? Did you comment on him? Yeah, yeah. He actually did blood work, like, immediately after I had talked about it one time and it checked out. Yeah, he looks like what's possible. Yeah. Like, I, if you don't know who that guy is, he's super jacked and he's 50 years old.

But when I'm looking at him, I'm not getting any, like, steroid-y vibes. I'm getting a really fit guy who works out really hard and has probably been doing it for 30 years. That's what I get when I look at that guy. That's all feasible and possible. Now please go to the liver king. Please show me some preposterous liver king physiology. Oh, he has a, have you seen his apology? No, I haven't.

I want to watch it. He comes clean on steroids you. I fucked up. I don't know if you guys are able to watch. I just want to see some images, though. I want to see some images of his body because his body is just so off the charts, ridiculously massive. That's okay. But there's, like, on flattering lighting.

Yeah. I want to show some of him, like, jacked and lifting because he's just fucking gigantic. And as they're talking, by the way, you know, Ryan Johnson, the liver king, he is very short actually really really short he only weighs like I think right now 179 so I mean but he is huge and I weigh more than he does

but he looks like a barbarian I mean he literally looks insanely big very core specific like he's doing a lot of stuff where he's like cleaning and pressing kettlebells and walking with them over his head and all that stuff really does ignite your core

and if he's doing that all the time I'd imagine it's possible that those are real abs. But that was the question. Do you think those are real abs? Yeah, personally, I think they're legitimate abs. And the etching thing, I think, is more of the controversial topic. Did he have some sort of, like, cosmetic work done to target locally the fat around the abdominal, you know, definition?

Would that make much of a difference, though, because he's very lean, clearly. If you look at his arms, you look at his chest, you look at everything, like, look at that. image right there. He's so lean. I mean, how much fat would you even be talking about? And how would that make the thing is the topographical map of his abs? The way they pop up like mountains.

That's just mass. That's where the question of whether or not that's real or whether or not their implants. That's what I was leaning to is just like I feel like his overall body composition is pretty consistently represented. I don't think he has like dis... I get that his...

Yeah, look at him walking there. The argument is they don't change in Like when he sits down or anything The density of them and like the separation is so dramatic that it's got to be something Yeah And you know you could never really say if it was well done like what did or didn't happen I don't think it's implants though that would be really obvious in my opinion Well granted then it's like well if it's unnoticeable would you even

Right you know right it's like plastic surgery you only see the stuff that's not good Are you guys able to play the apology without it being copyrighted? Sure. We can play it for us. Come after us. I don't know what like the Spotify copyright rules are like. I think Spotify can handle this. Yeah, so as they're getting this apology video up, because they have a couple of problems with this as they're talking about this.

But yeah, I mean, it looks like to me, and there's been a lot of other fitness influencers that have commented about this, that it looks like that it is implants. And I think they even go further into this in just a moment. Brian Johnson sold himself as this natural dude that did all this crazy fitness, not even necessarily crazy fitness. He was literally trying to sell people on his diet. And his vitamins. In his vitamins. Because he made a lot of money off of it. And he's still making a lot of money off of it.

Yeah. And it's literally no different than any of these other diet fad companies. They all sell you a bunch of bullshit most of the time. A lot of people like, again, he doesn't want to put a. Is it working? Right. Like a limitation on what's possible. Like he likes to believe that you could.

And again, because the problem with this too is a lot of people will extrapolate this out and then think everyone with a jacked physique must be doing something, which is problematic because then it sort of creates this narrative around, you know, everyone's lying or anyone with a good physique. It's impossible to get there without doping your fucking face off kind of thing, which is not the case. There are certain individuals who, like, I do believe that. physique. Okay, maybe not, maybe not that physique, but like within striking distance of that, in 0.0.0001% of individuals, you could get there naturally. Yeah. Potentially. Hyper responders. Yeah. Guys who were just like ridiculous genetics. Like Ronnie Coleman Natural. Yes. Perfect example. Yeah. Ronnie Coleman Natural was super jacked, but he couldn't compete with the most jacked

guys. And then he started doing steroids. Yeah. And then he just exploded. But he's super honest about it. Like when Ronnie talks about it, he just will explain, like up until he was 30 years old. He was natural. Yeah. So can we get it? Or is it? Okay. Got a little. And we would play you guys, by the way, the actual version of this to where it sounds better because they were having some audio issues here. But the reason why we want to play you, their reaction to his apology, is I think this is kind of all what led up into why the liver king, Brian Johnson, has went mentally off the rails for Joe Rogan. Well, and if you think if he's on massive steroids, you know and everybody else in the world

knows when you're on steroids, it does affect you mentally as well as physically. For sure, yeah. So let's listen to their reaction. Because I think beyond this, if you guys want to go listen to the actual apology, if you've not heard it, go listen to it so you can clearly hear it. I'll turn the volume of as much as I can. But, you know, as they react to this apology, I think this is kind of what really sent the liver king off the rails mentally for Joe Rogan.

That's all right. Let's play. We can hear what he's saying. A lot of people. I'm making this video to apologize because I'm embarrassed and ashamed because I lied and I miss a lot of people. I've stated that this is a complicated as fuck topic, at least to me it is because before social media, I was rich and anonymous. And after social media, I'm still rich, but no longer

anonymous. And I never expected this kind of exposure in the public eye. It's been tricky as fuck to navigate. Well, clearly I did it wrong. And I'm here now to set the record straight. Yes, I've done steroids. And yes, I'm on steroids. By training by Trey hormone clinician. Leverking the public figure was an experiment to spread the message to bring awareness to the 4,000 people a day who killed themselves. The 80,000 people a day that try to kill themselves are people are hurting at record rates with depression, autoimmune, anxiety, infertility, low ambition in life. Our young men are hurting them most, feeling lost, weak, and submissive. so I made it my job.

He did it for the hurting people. Come on, Derek. The comments are not too favorable on that part of the video. Our highest and most dominant form. This is my fight. This is why I exist. Pause. Your highest and most dominant form.

Yeah. What? He wanted everybody that's depressed and trying to kill themselves to reach their highest, most dominant form. But he wanted a lot. lie about how he achieved his physique. So mislead these people. They're just by eating liver, you can come close to that. So as you fail at that as well, as everything else you failed at life that led you to the

point of doing something to yourself that you're thinking about committing suicide. Yeah. That's what he's saying. I feel like in this video, he had like a very good opportunity to just straight up say, sorry, I fucked up, et cetera, which I think he thought he was doing. But he also makes a few little comments in there that I feel like people really dug in on like the whole, I didn't expect it to happen this or me to blow up this much. It's like it was very meticulously planned out from inception of the brand within this.

I don't know if you saw the emails, but it's like within one year, I want to be at exactly this in social media following. And this is what I'm going to do. What's his social media following at now, Jamie? Which is like Instagram. I bet he's at 5 million. I think on TikTok. 1.7 million. On TikTok, he's at like 3. something million.

Yeah, half it's Chinese bots. Maybe. Let's play some more of this nonsense. I'm spreading the message. I've been on several podcasts and went after if I've ever taken steroids. I've always said, no, I don't touch the stuff, not going to touch the stuff. We never touch the stuff. That was a lie.

I've convinced myself that this had nothing to do with the ancestral message. I convinced myself that I'm not a competitive asset. of any kind. So who the fuck am I cheating? I convinced myself that this topic was a placeholder for a far more important conversation.

I convinced myself that this would overshadow that 36 years of working out usually twice a day without PEDs. That's not true. I've convinced myself that this was

the bulk of minority, usually in the fitness category, driving to an unproductive conversation. And I had convinced myself that this would be the wrong message to send to the 15-year-old boys. Oh, the 15-year-old boys. The ones who actually can get jacked. They've seen enough.

You know what the problem is? Sometimes people don't hang out with people that are smarter than them. And you think you're the smartest person or maybe because he's running this company. You know, people have to listen to him. So he's got this distorted perception of a. his ability to communicate and his ability to convince people. Like, that was so theatrical and so corny. I don't know how, like, what kind of thought process went into the...

There was some sort of ROI calculation on, if I lie, like, what does the probability I get outed versus how viral can I go if I lie from the get-go versus, like, I just don't know how his team, especially with the information out there, thought that it was going to be a net win where it's probably never going to come out. Does he have a team? Yeah, it's pretty elaborate. Like his team was, well, he has a media team that he hired to kind of like... Right, but they're just employees.

One of them came up to me in Vegas. Oh, really? Yeah, one of my security guards stopped him. He was like, I'm a producer for the Liver King. I'm like, produce, what the fuck do you produce? What are he producing? Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. It's not a movie.

Like, how many UFC events did he try and kind of like cozy up? He was front row at one of my shows in Vegas. Oh, damn. At the MGM. Hmm. Yeah, and then I saw him again at the Canelify. He was trying really hard to get on the podcast. And he's been trying really hard to get on now.

He contacted a few friends of mine. And some of them that have, like, Burke Kreischer that had him on the show. Yeah, he told me he's trying to get on. Yeah, for what? For what? Say that more? Like, come on, this is dumb, man.

This is a fucking you ran a con game and you got busted. Yeah. And it's unfortunate that you feel terrible. I'm sorry you feel bad because that's just what happens when you get caught lying. But you didn't have to lie. I don't even see how bad it would have been if from the get-go, he was like, I, you know, it's not the healthiest.

A lot of one-more replacement. Yeah. But, like, I understand the not wanting to talk about the other shit because he was on Winstrel, Decker, high amounts of GH, et cetera, which is not ancestrally consistent, but neither is H-R-T because it's like, well, if your diet was so dialed, like, why is it that you don't have, like, adequate testicular function or adequate hormone output or this or that? And it's just like, I guess I kind of just like spit in the face of his message too much that he couldn't wrap his head around justifying. Yeah.

Coming out and saying, I'm on HRT, but do this other stuff. There you go. So that is the clip. That is what sent liver king off the edge. And listen, I can imagine. I mean, imagine Ger Rogan, the biggest podcast in the entire world, your, your lie has already been exposed. You do this fantastic apology video where you essentially say you're doing it for people to want to kill. their selves. Although once they figure out that liver alone, it's not going to make you look

jacked or make you not want to kill yourself. And his supplements that he sells. Yeah, and the supplements. And also, by the way, if you're buying his supplements, I can't say this for sure. But, you know, as someone that is making the supplements and some of the videos we're about to play, you might not want to buy the supplements because it may make you go schizophrenic. I'm not saying that's the case. I don't know what the hell has made him go schizophrenic. I can probably say that what made him go schizophrenic like anyways is the $10,000 a month of steroids that will absolutely go to your brain. We know that steroid use is often associated with rage. Rage is something that has almost some type of schizophrenic tendencies to where you have this shit in your head and this stuff in your head you feel like you're going to explode.

You feel like that you just have to do something or you're going to break. Yes. And that is what that is also what drives you in your fitness journey. That's also what drives you in the gym to where you can go lift crazy amounts of weight. You can go do all these things. That is part of what steroids do if you use them, I guess, in a correct way. Because look, there's a lot of people. Joe Rogan himself is on testosterone.

You know, he is on testosterone. I think he's on also human growth hormone. But, you know, he admits it anyway. He has a full team, obviously, that is there, like a medical team. That is there making sure that, hey, we have the right supplement or we have the right milligrams. We have this and that. Right.

You're doing everything the right way. But if you're not necessarily doing everything the right way, you're spending $10,000 a month and all this shit. And who knows how much stuff he's putting into his body on top of kind of depriving his body in a lot of ways. It could absolutely make you go mental. Oh, it can. Just thinking about a year ago, right after I had a nasal.

sinus surgery. I had to be on steroids. I don't know what they're called. Prednisone, I think. Yeah, I was on predicone. Do you remember, Chad? Right after my sinus surgery, I had to go through the whole thing of the predizone, and it made me act like a lunatic just from predizone.

I could not sit still. I wanted to get up and go. Like, I got mad at Chad one night or one day. I was like, I got to get out of this house. I got to go do something. I had to go to Lowe's and buy flowers and do all this crazy stuff when I was sick and supposed to be sitting down and recovering. But it made me when I did.

I kind of went on a lunatic binge where I was just like I had all this aggression and this almost energy inside me that I had to get out and I could not just sit there. Yeah, no, I 100% agree. Bredenazin always gave me like hardcore anxiety attacks. I felt like I could not sleep ever. Oh, and I got the heat flashes and all that. Yeah, the hot flashes stuff, which also sometimes can be from the anxiety. idea itself. So that's what caused Liver King, I believe, in some ways to go off the deep. And although,

if you listen to his apology before Joe Rogan ever even talked to him, he kind of sounded a little bit off. You know, it was like there was something off with him. And almost every time that he went on a podcast, he always sounded a little off. I mean, this is not something new. But also, if you listen to how Joe Rogan explains the, I guess, journey that Liver King has been on to try to either befriend Joe Rogan, or get in his kind of circle, kind of sounds like some stalkerish behavior. And you have signs of stalkerish behavior pretty quick, especially with someone.

And, you know, it's things like what he does, you know, where he's getting front row seats. He's asking his friends and asking whoever, hey, I got to get on the show. Hey, I got to get on the show. Although you are consistently saying, no, I'm not, you're not coming on the show. We've had actually a couple people like that in the past before on this show. and that was when I started to not necessarily talk to as many people as I used to kind of in the beginning, although we talked to people and kind of can, I guess, not confined, but I guess

safer environment. So like we go on telegram, we talk to people or whatever. But yeah, there are a lot of crazy people out there. And you just got to be aware of that. And especially when you talk about topics, the word not everyone is going to agree with you. And or you say something that offends someone, you just don't know how. crazy people are nowadays. You don't. And you think about all these YouTubers and podcasters that are getting swatted, for example. You know, it just happens all the time now. Or like people that will

be on live strings and just like last week, Chad, there was a couple that got murdered on a live stream. Yeah. And it was, yeah, it was two live streamers. I guess they had talked shit. Well, one of them talked shit about the other one for like two or three weeks. And then this guy shows up in Las Vegas, which is where the other live streamers, you know, hometown was. And so I guess this other guy saw that he was in Las Vegas, went down, shot the dude and then shot his wife. And it was all on live stream. This is, this happened while the other guy was on a live stream. And the videos are out there. Probably don't want to watch them because they're pretty horrific. I think that guy has been arrested since. But I want to play the some of the clips of what led Liver King into his arrest.

Here you go. Here's just one of them. This is just a just kind of some of his off-hinge shit. This is, I think he might mention Joe Rogan in this particular clip, but at the very least, this is exactly around the same time he was talking about Gerrigan. Listen. I'm going to make a quick video to weigh myself right now. In case you didn't know, I take shits on the ground. This is where I lay in the shower.

I lay it on the ground. That's my enema bucket. This is my enema bucket right there. And that's what I'm about to do is I'm going to try and get a shit work time. but I'm going to weigh myself so that it's official. It's official. Here's what I weigh. Here we go.

What's that? Yes, and he does have an Inima bucket in the shower to where he has to utilize this bucket and these tools to be able to use the bathroom. So whatever he's doing, obviously, he has massive digestive issues. Wait, so can you all see it? Wow, way more than what I thought. It looks like about one nine. official way in never king

192 yeah I've been saving these are my clothes those are my suits I have a black suit I got a barbarian blood color suit and what's the other

oh emerald green yeah and I'm like why would I ever wear white that's ridiculous I'm wearing it after I beat your ass Joe rogue yeah so he already just talked about a blood colored suit

and then this dude has like a road rash it looks like on his head. I mean, it looks like someone's already beat his ass or something. I mean, he's got some kind of road rash or some type of scab over his left eye. He has it on his nose, both sides. Then right before he talks about Joe Rogan, he talks about a blood colored suit. So I think that was just yet another hint to where it's like, hey, this is not just about fighting. This is something mentality. And listen, I think this guy, just in my opinion, this dude maybe at the end of his kind of mental state to the point of maybe he's planning a suicide for himself and maybe he wants like a murder suicide type deal.

But anyways, that's just my initial thoughts. Let's listen to some more. And when I say, well, after I beat your ass, nobody wins nor loses. There's an outcome. There's an outcome. There's not good or bad. There's just an outcome, stimulus and response. And the outcome is good and true.

multiplied by that. And then what ends up happening is the king crown. Everybody wants to wear the crown, but all roads bleed through barbarians. I'll see you tomorrow. 192. Probably about weight the same.

Probably you're taller than me. I'm a midget, bro. I'm a fucking midget. You know? Everything that you think, all those things about me are probably true. 192 is true and I'll probably

If you want If you want I can cut more I'll be ready whenever you're ready Whenever you're ready Or you can release me of this fight And you can just welcome me right on to the show tomorrow And I will donate a million dollars To a charity by choosing good and true

That's also a possibility Otherwise it's bloody fucking murder Bro bloody murder Barbarian murder Barbarian bones, 192. I ask my wife, I go, hey, do we have a scale? Do we have a scale? So he says here, you either welcome me on your show or otherwise as bloody murder.

That's a direct threat. That is a terroristic threat. It is. You know what he reminds me of? Excuse me. You know, in Silence of the Lambs, the guy in he has a... Hannibal Lecter? Yeah.

No, the other one. He kidnaps these women and he makes them put lotion on their bodies. Oh, yeah. And he puts the pail down. the whale and he's like leather the skin put the skin in the bucket yeah yeah yeah he just seems crazy and off like that dude well he is i mean obviously i mean you're continuing to threat joe rogan which is what led to the arrest i'm gonna finish out this clip in particular and she's like um yeah i got look for it so no no don't want to bother you to have to go look for

it i just could use rags i was just going to use rags i was really curious to wait myself to this year. I didn't know how much I weighed. I thought that, like, I don't look like I would. Look, don't look like I weigh that much. I have a gut problem right now. You see it? Look how boom, boom, boom. We're gonna go try and dispose of that some of that by laying down in the fetal fucking position and then working the valves. right here you go up ascending colon transverse and whatever descending and then all these oh yeah after a while sometimes I can get something out I got these impactions right now that's my gift yeah awesome dude yeah animus every day to my machinery don't work like regular machinery, gifts, all of them gifts coming for you, Joe. I help my family get some of yours.

And I really want to be on a diet where I cannot poop. Yeah, no joke. Yeah, he can't. And, you know, he has all of these just crazy issues in his mind. And yet he still wants to, I don't think he, obviously he doesn't want to fight Joe Rogan, because he already knows about Joe Rogan's fighting skills. That's not what he wants. He wants to, it sounds like, maybe.

kill Joe Rogan. You know, I go back to maybe this is like a murder-suicide thing. Here's another video that he did not long after. Listen to this one. Okay, real quick. P-S. P-S. What I'm hoping is that you, Joe Rogan, are thinking, I'm going to choke that motherfucker out,

lights out, I'm going to choke him out. And I kind of hope that if you win, that's how it happens. Because to wake up from that dream, that's a good feeling. And then anything else that you can. could break on me. Break it on me. I hope that you won't feel me tap. That's never happening, tapping, because I have something actually to fight for. Actually, that's my family. I have a principal to fight for. That's what I'm, uh, oh, what if he actually does what he's saying? What if that would be interesting? That would be interesting. What do you have to fight for?

You're fighting. I hope you're mad. You should choke me out. You know how to do that. You're trained. You're trained. You've got a black belt. Black belt in Jiu-Jitsu. I hope you choke me out. And if you don't choke me out, these other limbs will be interesting.

It should be very interesting. That's the PS. I already thought about my game plan. I don't have a plan. I'm not going to train. I'm not going to train. But I hope you've been training. And I'm ready whenever you're ready.

If it's tomorrow, that will be great. Let's do it as if possible. If it's not tomorrow, Then just whenever you're ready. Yeah. This is actually happening. And just remember on the back side, this is good. It's fun.

It'll be fun. It'll be like, there's real tension, real fight, real. No, shame on you, bro. Shame on you, I'm going to make you pay. I am going to actually make you pay. And what you pay will be donated to good and true. So that's how barbarians bleed. A message.

So there you go. Yeah, this guy's off his rocker. I mean, dude is literally psycho. Yeah, he says he has other limbs. What is he going to put in other limbs a gun? I don't know, right? I mean, that's the thing. We don't know.

And he is crazy as shit. And Liver King has, and so here's another video. We got to play a couple of them because then we're going to play a video that he released after he got arrested. Yeah. But this is before still he got arrested. Listen. Or anything and everything. Because Joe Rogan, we don't have to make videos to pretend anymore.

And he's crawling on his driveway, by the way. Like he's crawling. He's crawling like a dog. And is he naked? No, he's not naked. No, not in this. But he's got like a tactical vest on. He's crawling like a monkey or something.

And he comes up to the camera. So obviously someone, it seems like, is holding the camera for him as he crawls, which seems to be his wife. Oh, my gosh. His wife is a pretty woman, but I just don't understand what the hell she's thinking. Well, maybe she can't think anything and she can't say anything because he'll go barbaric on her. Yeah, I mean, that's true. And there was a new video just released of like them walking their two Dovermans. You know, when they landed in Austin, Texas, he has these two Dovermans in the back of the vehicle. And he says, Joe Rogan, you're going to meet these, my two boys, too.

And then so it shows him on a live stream, I guess, I don't know if this was yesterday, a day before, whenever it was. He, the dog was like kind of walked out of the line a little bit and he kicked this shit out of him. So it's like, look, so he. Yeah. So. Well, and this is the thing, you know, we all know that Joe Rogan can kick his ass. But when you're dealing with somebody that has mental issues, obviously this guy does. And this is the problem with it.

Of course, Joe Rogan is not going to go fight him. He already knows he can win. But this guy has mental issues. Yeah. And it makes it scary because he could come out. after him and threaten him and come with guns and weapons and his dogs and try everything. It's almost like the Nick Fuentes guy. You know, all those people went to his house and tried to kill him, had guns and everything.

I mean, this happens all the time, but this is scary because it's on social media and he's putting it out there and he does not give a crap. No, he doesn't. Yeah, let's listen to the last part of this video. And then we're going to talk about what would happen if this guy does show up around Joe Rogan. Like what is Joe Rogan security? What does that mean? Does it matter?

All of this. All of this is happening. We're coming to you. I've challenged you man to man to a fight. Honorable. And we don't have to pretend or make any videos. The world is watching. They'll make the videos for us.

And you don't have to hold a camera. You can hold the hand of somebody that you love because what happens next to you, you're going to need to remember that feeling. You're going to need something more than what you did. to give you something to fight for because i have my family to fight for that's and then i'll die for him you know that and you're a black belt but you you you've you've never come across something like this willing to die hoping that you'll choke me out i pray to god because that's a dream come true it feels good and then the limbs i'm fighting for my family so limb limb limb limb limb limb limb go ahead

but this but then you have to contend with something else and i weigh 170 27 pounds, an actual savage. And so at first you're like, fuck that guy, fuck that guy. Right? When you all of a sudden, he did get your attention, which I already did before this, you're saying, I'm going to choke that motherfucker, that piece of fucking shit. I'm going to choke him out. That's what warriors do.

You and Andrew Tate are good warrior, good warriors. But you're actually better than that real tension we have. Comedy, comedy that you do is good and true. We have real tension. but what I see in you is comedy is good and true touch points how people laugh if we don't make fun of them at their expense they laugh you should all make fun of me liver you should all make fun of me at my expense trust me uh that it still works and uh and then you should get paid for it uh and let's let's go let's go we're because we're leaving we're going to austin what's my very last point that we're going to kick you all roger's ass that we the wheel jean shut it oh oh it's it's my speech

there you go and so obviously someone else is involved in this that is i guess aging him on or who knows what the hell is actually the case here right but it's just crazy this guy has lost his shit and the way he talks sounds like he is mentally unstable you know i mean if if this guy came up against any law enforcement officer or someone else that you're on automatically going to know that if he starts talking like this, then you better back up. He's off the chain. Yeah, you need to make sure that you have everything ready to fight for your life because this guy sounds like that in his videos.

And so Joe Rogan is not a what I would call a pussy. He is someone that just doesn't want to, you know, entertain this. He is not someone that has or I mean, he shouldn't have to deal with this. That's number one. but you know you can say that you know he absolutely antagonized the liver king with that segment on his podcast so this is what i think really is still just enraging this liver king brian johnson guy inside and when he keeps saying that i want to fight for my family what do you have to fight for i got to fight for my family what that means is is that he is probably over his

head with expenses for the for the life that he created based on a lie right and then once that house a card starts falling down and especially when you have a podcast like jera rogan that exposes it on the biggest level you could possibly expose something like that you're losing everything and you're losing it fast and you feel like you're probably going to lose your family your wife everything so at this point he feels like i'm either going to destroy this dude that i think destroyed my life even though he kind of destroyed his own life he did lying yes but at the same time he feels like jer rogan was a major instigator to the position that he's likely in now.

Although he's still staying at the four seasons and, you know, that's not a cheap hotel to stay at. I mean, that's probably a thousand plus dollars a night. So it's not like he doesn't have money. I mean, I'm sure he still has money from all the shit he sold during his time. And he's still selling it. And I'm assuming that probably the way his vitamins work, it's like I'm, you know,

once you sign up, you get it every month. Yeah. And then it's really hard to get out of that month to month thing because I've done that with like the little gummies. Oh, God. Yes. With the keto gummies. Which are all bullshit.

Yeah, I signed up for keto gummies for like $29. And then all of a sudden I'm getting this stuff for $110 a month and I can't get it to stop. And Chad could have just killed me. Yeah, I was like, what in the hell are these gummies? And it was like more than that. It was like every month and we could not get them to stop. We raised hell, tried to do everything.

It's very signed up for this. And I think they were coming from China. Yeah. And I could not. China is the last place. I called and called. And I was like, Chad, we might have to just like stop our whole bank account and get a new bank account so that it won't come out of our account every month. I think it was coming out more than just every month.

I think it was like every two weeks, $100 something of this bullshit that they would send us. Yeah, these fake gummy things. Yeah, we could not get it canceled. But the way they got me is because it was a shark tank gummies. Yeah, but it was all bullshit. It was all lies. That whole marketing thing, the gummies were never on shark tank. and that's the, I looked in that.

It was just all bullshit. It was a scam. And that's all it was. Yeah, they got me. They probably just put sugar into gummies. And I, you know, I often say, it was apple cider vinegar is what it was in there. Yeah, supposedly.

It probably didn't even put apple cider vinegar in there. But I mean, it's like my mom will call me, be like, yeah, well, my phone's got a virus on it. I'm like, how the hell do you get a freaking virus on your phone? How I bought mom a computer last year. It was like a $1,000 computer almost. And then, you know, I was like, mom, where's your computer? Oh, that thing don't work anymore. I'm like, in a year, your computer doesn't work.

It's like one of the best computers you can buy laptop-wise. I mean, except for a Mac. But she's like, oh, no, we can't even get on it. It's got viruses all over. I'm like, what in the hell are you guys downloading? Like, I just don't understand. We're just downloading some games. Yeah, we're just, it's just games.

It says that, you know, whatever. I don't know. But I had to work with her to get a virus off her phone, which I still don't think that's, that's gone, even though I thought it was. But yesterday, mom's like, she calls me or I call her and it says, call recording. And I'm like, mom, what was that? She's like, I don't know. There's a big recording thing on my phone.

I was like, why is it recording our phone call? She's like, I have no idea. I don't know what the hell this is. I'm like, oh, my God. Like, where is this phone call recording going? Yeah. So I guess, you know, your mom and your wife can get scammed sometimes. Oh, yeah, no shit.

All right. So then Liver King is arrested on felony charges. I believe his felony charges of terroristic threats. And so he gets out, but he has ankle monitor. He has to stay 200 feet away from Joe Rogan. So we think that this is over. But it isn't because Liver King decides to make another video, another video. After he gets out of jail.

Yes. After he gets out of Joe, this is the literal first video that he makes. And I was like, there's no way Liver King made a new video. Someone had sent it to me. And I was like, oh, shit, he did make. a new video. Here it is. Good morning primals. From the vibration plate of the greatest state in the world, Austin, Texas.

Texas is the state just to be clear. Bags under my eyes, haven't slept a whole lot. And it's been an amazing gift. When you fracture the physical, don't sleep. Don't eat much drink much You go deeper into something else. You get to maybe express something else Uh

Something else ask me what the password is to Wi-Fi I can't wait to share it So good morning primals what I'm doing do with me get the early morning sun through the eyes on the face on skin Get the bare feet connected anchored grounded into the earth about to go do that with the pops right now down there That's where the Dobermans go to play down there at the water. They like to do a stick champion game. That's what we're about to do. And we're going to go somewhere today here in Austin.

If anybody knows where Seth Rogan's, the other version of him that rhymes with Blow, if anyone knows where its family is going to be today, if you could let my team know so that we can stay within 200 yards, not close to them, to stay away from them. So he's literally saying if anybody knows where Joe Rogan's family is today, let me know so we can make sure we stay away from them. Okay. Yeah, right. But he's literally saying that to see if he can find where their family is.

Yeah, because he wants to find where they are. And he's not just saying Joe Rogan, but he's saying Joe Rogan and his family. Yes, absolutely. That's scary to me. Yeah, now he's threatening. And he's saying Seth Rogan or something that rhymes with Blow Rogan. Right. So he's not, he's trying not to say his name because obviously.

when you have a no contact order, you can't be on there saying shit like he's saying. I'm surprised he has not even had his ankle monitor or ankle bracelet revoked and he's back in jail, but he's not as it right now, but let's listen to the rest of this. Actually, I redact that don't do anything to their family. I just, if we go somewhere unbeknownst to us today,

if anyone who's around us can alert us, that there might be anyone with the last name Rogan around, then I'll happily go the other 200 yards. This thing will help me make sure. You know how good that feels on the ankle? That part where it bounces and just like that. And he's showing his ankle monitor right here. And for some reason, it's bouncing. I don't know if that's his leg just completely spasping out, but it's like vibrating.

But he's showing his ankle monitor in his hotel room. Making my ankle strong for that. What do you call that one? heel hook one. It's making it real strong. For that one, the bones getting bigger. So that's what's going down today. And then we're going to go to the Capitol at 7 p.m. every day we'll be at the Capitol where they make laws. Rogan versus Liver King. Yeah. I don't know if you might know who I am. You might not. It doesn't really matter the name, but it's Liver King. I'm picking a fight. Who's it with? Seth Rogan. It's with Seth Rogan. And what's it for? Family. It's for family.

Joe Rogan is from California. I'm from Texas. grew up on military bases, born on one. then Texas, really my whole wife, really my whole wife, is where I'm from. My mom was born here too. From Texas, I'm a Texan. Welcome to Texas. We're friendly. But we do things different here. You're about to find out how different.

King time. So there you go. Is it that just a threat at the end? It is. We do things differently? Yeah, it is. Like there is so many different. aspects of these videos that are absolutely crazy where he's giving indirect threats.

But I guess it's so hard with the law system, you have to have pretty much somebody tried to kill you before they do anything. No, you're 100% correct. And then he has this other video out. And this is the last video we're going to play. This is also after jail. And he has this like headpiece that has a wolf on it with like his fur on his back. And he has all these.

I think this is weapons maybe. Yeah, he has a weapon. No, so this must not have been before. I think this was one of the other ones. So he has an AR-15. Looks like a gold AR-15. He's talking about Joe Rogan. We'll play this one too.

But he's also had multiple other videos after the fact of where he is threatening Joe Rogan. We'll play this last one. And then we're going to get into what happens with all of this. All right. So the rest of that video. And listen, the reason I want to play that, he's, you know, he was picking a fight. He has an AR-15 in his hand.

And he is threatening. Joe Rogan. That is what he's doing. So I want to play quickly. Brendan Schwab, he is an ex-UFC fighter. He oftentimes goes on the Joe Rogan podcast and talks extensively about the UFC or his ex-UFC career and all this other bullshit. There's a lot of people that don't really like Brendan Schwab.

But I think he's all right, dude. And so Brendan Schwab just talked about this particular incident. And I want you to hear what Brendan Schwab said about if Liver King somehow figures out a way to get to Joe Rogan. And they have Liver King. Let's say you pull off what you think you're going to do and get access to Rogan, which is never happening. But let's say you're able to get through the fucking wall of special forces security that he has,

jump the gate that he has, get through security, get through all the bullshit, the guns, the dog. Good fucking left. But let's say he has a special set of skills and he does that. And then you get face to face with a guy who's trained in fucking Taekwuan he's a black belt, competition black belt in taekwondo, knocked out a million fucking dudes. Not to mention he's a blackbound jih Tjitsu.

Again, buddy, this is how you know he's not thinking clear? You can't fight. I know you think you're tough, but there's levels to that. And he might be a tough guy. And there's a lot of tough guys. And I know he walks barefoot and takes shits laying down and does enemas. And he's tough in his world. There's levels to toughness, dude.

And if your goal is to get attention, by fighting Rogan and to go viral, you go viral. You can go viral from getting beat the fuck up. Yeah. Yeah. And a lot of people do is funny. When I used to watch this influencer boxing, I remember Fusitube went on to fight some little skinny dude.

And Fusitube was like ripped up. Yeah. You know, he's built as hell. And he got his ass whipped. Yeah. And he did. He lost. Oh, yeah.

His whole face was broken up. I remember that. There's a difference in like muscular. But he was a little bit on the crazy side too. Oh, he is. But there. There's a little bit difference in, you know, your masculinity and kind of how much muscle tone and all that stuff you have and someone that is trained and knows how to fight and all that shit. There's a huge difference.

There are levels to all of that. But for the question of if Liver King somehow figures out a way where Joe Rogan is, Joe Rogan is often surrounded, not often, all the time. Anytime he goes anywhere, he has special forces guys that are around him. Literally, Joe Rogan has hired ex-special forces dudes that probably make who knows how much money a year. There's a lot of them that are like that. It's not just Joe Rogan. Even Timcast has a crew that enforces people to stay away from him and keeps him safe.

Yeah, absolutely. And so, you know, but could Liver King still wreak havoc if he knew around where the same area that Joe Rogan was? Absolutely. because if you do have a weapon and you are able to use that weapon, say an AR-15, and it won't make a shit necessarily about how much security you have around you. Even if you have five or six, seven dudes and you have an AR-15, you can lose that fight very fast, especially if it's unexpected or anything else. The good thing is right now that since he has been arrested and he is under a minimal evaluation,

he has had his weapons taken. he has no access to weapons at least that we know of yeah but he could get them easily if he has a team yeah and he does and that's that's what's freaky and scary about this whole situation because if if you have somebody that's off the charts mentally like this they will go through any lengths to do what the outcome they want to do be done yeah especially if they're suicidal and now now he has this charge you know he has all this other shit his life is spiraling and I'm just actually surprise. I mean, I understand terroristic threats. It's not, although if you, obviously, as we have listened to some of these videos, it would make you think that, damn, I'm just surprised they

released him, even with an ankle monitor. And he's able to go out and do stuff during the day and all this shit. He just can't be within 200 feet, I guess, of Joe Rogan. 200 yards, yeah. Or whatever. Yeah, it's still very dangerous because if one of his team members happens to give him a weapon, and he just says, screw it. And he has some type of intel, because like, he is in the range. realm of, I guess you can say celebrity. He knows some of Joe Rogan's people. He knows probably people that don't like Joe Rogan. I mean, let's just be realistic about it.

Right. You know, what if someone does give a location of Joe Rogan or his family in any particular case? And nowadays, it's not as hard to find where people are in certain times or days or maybe their house or whatever. So it is a very dangerous situation. And it's something that we have kind of somewhat dealt with in the past here and there, for sure, at one point in time in our lives that we had to, you know,

navigate that for two or three years. That was something completely different. Yeah, but we had to navigate it still. And, you know, even today, I mean, we, we don't, we don't travel unstrapped. You know, that's the thing. We don't, we're not anywhere that we don't have. And I'm sure Joe Rogan doesn't either. Yeah, we're not anywhere that we.

I hope he doesn't anyways. Yeah, we're not anywhere that we're going to be caught off guard as far as not being able to defend ourselves or other people defend us. And so I'll put it that way. But either way, you know, it is a very scary. situation. It'll be very interesting to see what happens. To me, I think they should absolutely, they should revoke his bond, whatever he's out on. They should absolutely do it, especially when he releases another video, essentially still threatening. With his ankle and

bracelet on. With his ankle braces on. I don't even know why he's not in jail again. Yeah. I mean, I think that kind of goes against his whatever he's supposed to be doing. Yeah. I mean, it's the no contact order. Because he says Seth Rogan instead of Joe Rogan, but it rhymes with blow. yeah it's ridiculous yeah blow rogan set rogan yeah it's nuts but i we did just want to come on and talk about this i know this is not necessarily the stuff we usually talk about man this dude's freaking crazy it seems like and there are people that are crazy like that out there in the world and it's just not even if you're not known you have to always understand that the world is a dangerous place it doesn't matter where you live there is always someone i guarantee you in some in almost

everyday life, you are probably around someone that has either suicidal or murderistic tendencies that you either encounter in a grocery store or encounter somewhere else that if certain things happen in the wrong way, you could end up on the wrong side of their weapon, of their gun, or maybe they just go crazy. And I think that's really important to know. And I think it's really important. One thing that Chad has really taught me since I've been married to him is situation awareness. Yeah.

Like before I met Chad, I didn't even look around a grocery store. When I parked my car, I just get out and go in the grocery store. You know, I was never prepared for somebody coming up to attack me or anything like that. But since I have met Chad, and this is way before our podcast, but, you know, he just knew that stuff. And I never really cared about it and didn't give it a time of day. But especially now with the world the way it is, you have to have situational awareness. Yeah, anywhere. have to know who's around you, where you are, and what's going on at all times.

Just like when I'm at the grocery store, I have situation awareness. And I'm always making sure that I am protected. Yeah, you're always armed. I'm always armed. We're always looking out like in parking lots wherever we go. I'm looking at everybody's going in. Everybody's going out. Also, even when you're in a store and I'm not, I'm always looking who's going in,

who isn't, you know, all that stuff. I you have to think about that and that's why you know I don't love going in places where everybody just sitting in one place to where anybody can just come in and do whatever they want to do open fire or anything yeah because then you have just a you're already at a disadvantage and there's a lot to be said about that I'm not going to go into all that stuff but maybe one day we'll bring on some people that can really go in detail about that maybe Jason Hansen or the CIA guy or some of these others that we know right would love to bring them on talk more in depth about this, especially just for self-defense, situational awareness, all of that stuff.

I think it's very important. And I think that Joe Rogan is definitely doing a right thing by calling the police on this guy because, you know, you have to get out ahead of the problem. Because if Joe Rogan doesn't call this out and then this just escalates to where Joe Rogan wishes he would have done something instead of just ignoring it, it might be too late. And, you know, you only have one life on this earth. And depending on what your decisions are, it can be a short life or a long life. and sometimes it is up to you how long your life is here.

And so it's always funny, the people that do the crazy. I used to have a motorcycle. I used to have all this stuff, do crazy shit, do all this stuff. And then until you start thinking like, man, you know, this could kill me like tomorrow. And especially when you have that tendency where you don't really, it's not that you don't care, but it's just you don't realize necessarily, I guess. And especially when you're young, you're like, yeah, I can go like 180 miles an hour in a motorcycle and that'll be fine.

I'll probably survive this, you know, but there's a lot of stuff that you got to think about nowadays. But anyways, enough of this. Guys, we're going to be on vacation after tomorrow. And we're actually having some people stay at our house while we're gone, which is cool because we have some animals and stuff, which is we were trying to figure out how we were going to leave our animals. But we finally did figure that out at least. But we're only going to be gone a few days. And as soon as we get back, we are going to have an episode with James. and he is going to comment and talk about the UFO slash Bible connection.

I think tomorrow before we leave, we're going to do an episode with Sherry and our friend Brittany, where we talk about this UFO summoning slash paranormal side of stuff that Sherry and Brittany especially as experienced. I think it'll be a cool conversation and especially, I'm saying especially like a lot. I don't know why. But anyways. But and then James, when he comes on next week, we're going to be able to kind of break down some of what you guys talked about because I think that'll be interesting,

at least from the biblical's perspective, because a lot of you always wonder, is the Bible connected in any way to UFOs and the paranormal? And I think we're going to get some of the answers, at least biblically, from that side. But we're going to end it here. The name of this song is Burn Away by Nick Caution. Joe Rogan, if you do want to fight Liver King, we'll promote it. Until next time, guys. Love you.

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