Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Manhattan Project Conspiracy Part 2 | UFO UAP Podcasts

Episode Date: June 10, 2024

In this episode, we explore the intriguing connections between the Manhattan Project and the UFO/UAP phenomenon we are experiencing today. How was Robert Oppenheimer involved in UFO crash retrievals across the United States leading up to the first atomic bomb test at Los Alamos National Lab? Could the Manhattan Project have been a cover for the first documented interactions between humans and extraterrestrial beings? Join us as we delve into these fascinating questions and uncover the hidden links between these two monumental events. All of this and more on this episode of Manhattan Project Conspiracy Part 2 | UFO UAP Podcasts

We knew the world would not be the same. Hello and welcome to Investigator of Podcast. I'm your host shadow alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. On tonight's episode, we're going to be talking about the Manhattan Project, part two. This is the UFO interdimensional slash non-human intelligence connection to the Manhattan Project. For those that have not listened to our first episode, where we go through the history of Oppenheimer, how the Manhattan Project supposedly came about. I want you guys to go check that out. Also in the first episode, we talked about the guys.

government that was basically experimenting on unsuspecting people for years leading up to the Manhattan Project itself. And for those of you that don't know what that might sound like, think about what's happened over the past three years. We've been experimented on. There's no freaking question whatsoever. Our government experiments on us since the beginning of time. They always have.

And this is no different with the Manhattan Project. Guys, welcome to the show. If you do not know who that person was at the beginning of the, you know, the, episode that was Oppenheimer himself he is pictured there in a video talking about the destroyer of worlds and he's about 70 something years old in that video but the one thing that just that video really captures besides the the vocalities of what he's saying is just his eyes his dead stare you can almost see what this guy has been through what he's seen what he knows and we're gonna talk a little bit about Oppenheimer

was he connected to UFO programs in the past with the government through Roosevelt or even Eisenhower. And all of that guys, welcome to the show. It is June the 10th, 2024. The name of this song, by the way, is End of the World by Tom McDonald and John Rich. I felt like it was a good song fitting for this episode. There's just been so many things.

We've been doing this for six or seven years now. And the reality of it is is that the fact that our government continues to screw the people on a daily basis and feel like they can always get away with it because they do this is what happens they get away with things on a regular basis and the manhattan project was no different but how was it connected to the UFO phenomenon we're going to get into that sherry welcome i know that you've been doing a lot of research on this as well yes there's so many things there's so many things there's so many different rabbit holes and i'm like holy cow i thought our government was corrupt now you should go back to then and see how corrupt we were.

Yeah. And to be honest, guys, we thought this was really only going to be a part one, part two series. It may be a part three. We'll have to see. We don't know when we'll release part three, but we definitely want you guys to come back for part three. Sherry's dug into so many rival holes as far as just various connections with the Manhattan Project. But tonight, we are going to focus on the connection between UFOs and UAPs and how all of that kind of incorporates into this.

Guys, for those of you that have watched the movie Oppenheimer, Oppenheimer was a great movie. It was a box office success. They released this in theaters multiple times. I believe they even released the movie in IMAX, and I think they released it this year, or maybe even planning to do it again. I know this has been a multiple release movie,

and you might ask yourself, why would they release something multiple times? I think because if you guys, understand what we have been dealing with the past two and three and four and five years, where there's so many people calling for disclosure on the UFO UAP topic. There has been so many news stories about UFOs and UAPs. We've had people like Commander David Fraper and Ryan Graves and David Grush and various people come forward that are either pilots or whistleblowers that had high top level

security clearances that are saying that we do have non-human intelligence. And it just so happens, though, that a lot of this stuff started happening and popping up around, sorry, right around the same time that the Manhattan Project was going on in the 1940s, in particular around World War II. Obviously, we know about so many other reports before World War II. And even in the 30s, if you look at so many pictograms and all this stuff, cave drawings, we have cave drawings of potential UFOs or. alien beings that are thousands of years old. We have accounts in the Bible in Ezekiel that talk about things that seem like they were talking about UFOs or advanced or non-human intelligence. You've got to think about the pyramids in Egypt. There's so many different things. And we talked a little bit about the pyramids in the first episode, but there's so many different things that I

believe that the Manhattan Project, the very least, was kind of like the spearhead of when did the UFO phenomenon really start taking off? When did the government really have to start dealing with the fact that, hey, we have a problem, we have to do something about it, and we have to harness the possibility of, hey, we have advanced technology here. Who can we get scientists-wise that is going to come in that is going to try to decipher what we can possibly use from either non-human intelligence or alien beings? And I think, in my opinion, that is where Oppenheimer and these other. scientists came in. I know it's kind of

elaborate thing, but we'll talk a lot about that. Jerry, did you have something to say? Well, I was going to say, too, everything we've been talking about the last seven years will sometimes talk about Operation Paperclip or Operation Blue Book or whatever we're talking about. Majestic 12. Or any of this stuff, but when you really go back to the Manhattan Project, all of the things kind of stem from that project. Yeah, absolutely. And it puts it all together. Even the New World Order

comes from here. It was just unbelievable when I was researching all this, that all this stuff started way back then with the Manhattan Project. Yeah. And even a lot of the advanced aerial or UAP programs now that are a part of the government through either the Pentagon or you think about people like Lou Alizando and ATIP, all these things are almost like new reclassifications in similarity with the Manhattan Project. And a lot of people believe that Manhattan Project never actually died and just technically change this name. And so when you think about the Manhattan Project, what it was was a research and development program according to Wikipedia, according to the government, that basically was a huge

undertaking during World War II to produce the first nuclear weapons. It was led by the United States in collaboration with the United Kingdom and Canada. And from 1942 to 1946, the project was directed by Major General Leslie Groves of the U.S. Army, sorry, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, nuclear physicist J. Robert Oppenheimer was the director of the Los Alamos laboratory that designed the bombs. And then the Army program was designated the Manhattan District as its first headquarters were in Manhattan. Now, the name gradually superseded the official code name development of substitute materials for the entire project. Now, the project absorbs its earlier British counterpart, the tube alloys. Now, the Manhattan

Project employed nearly 130,000 people at its peak and cost nearly $2 billion. And right now in 2023 last year, that's equivalent to $27 billion, and over 80% of which was for building and operating the plants that produced the fissile material. Research and production took place at more than 30 sites across the U.S., UK, and Canada. Now, I want to play the first clip here. I want you guys to hear this. This was on breaking points. I thought this was very interesting.

and I thought it was a great clip, and I think it kind of really highlights what we're about to get into. But Tom Rogan went on breaking points, and he talks about here that there's probably a very small element that has sustained really since the Manhattan Project in the Second World War, which has known that there is some other intelligence operating some of these things. We'll get into this clip first,

and then we'll break some more stuff down for you guys. Here you go. That is an excellent point. It's like for people to say, oh, these guys were mistaken. You're saying that some of the most seasoned war fighters through the global war on terror who have had flown thousands of hours of air missions, who have presumably encountered millions of different objects or whatever, cannot distinguish from their equipment what is an anomaly and what is actually real. It's completely ridiculous.

Tom, one thing I think for people at home, I've received a lot of pushback on this. I'm sure you have as well, is this is a sci-op. What are you guys falling for? Clearly, this is all in preparation for this. There's a belief that the U.S. government is competent enough or smart enough in able to craft this big narrative here in the lead up to something. However, something you and I have discussed privately and often is, the truth is, is that they're just terrified to say, we have no idea what's going on up there. Given your own experience, you're talking with Pentagon, intelligence sources, and all of that,

which one do you think is the actual scenario that's playing out here? I think there's probably a very small element that has sustained really since the Manhattan Project in the Second World War, which has known that there is some other intelligence operating some of these things. But I think broadly, the same principles that the military applied to this issue in the 1940s and 50s sustains today, which is to your point. They truly don't know. They know it's not us, Russia or China, again in this very small percentile. But when they have the sensor data matched up with pilots, multiple different platforms, multiple pilots, multiple air crews and platforms, sonar operators, for example, something really is compelling going on there.

And they don't know what to do, right? They have, it's an unconventional technology. It behaves in intelligent ways in terms of its countermaneuver sometimes when it's intercepted. And there's a tradition of credible witness accounts, police officers, military, whatever you want, going back decades, that talk to something going on. Either there is a mass hallucination that ranges over decades and has some kind of, you know, telepathic communication based on people who've never met describing similar incidents, or, you know, I think the more realistic answer, which is what we are going to, I think, find out

in the next few years simply because of more journalistic and scientific scrutiny, and that latter point particularly, is that really there is. something going on here. And the government just doesn't know what to do with it. And, and, you know, how do you address that? And so the stigma point, make it all a little bit silly and hope these things don't, you know, create issues. Although if you look at some of the nuclear weapons, the portfolio with this, there are points, I would say, of national security concern. You know, you're right. The government doesn't know what to do about it. Earlier, Tom, you said you felt pretty confident that this couldn't be Russian or Chinese technology.

Why do you feel so certain? Because I think what most people have sort of gone to outside of an extraterrestrial explanation is, yeah, these are probably all likely Chinese. You know, we had the one Chinese spy balloons, probably more Chinese by balloons or other sort of surveillance aircraft or maybe they're partnered up with Russia or maybe Russia has their own capability or some other country. most likely, I think fingers point at those too. What makes you so confident that they don't have the technological sophistication to achieve things that, you know, we've been unable to achieve with regards to our own military and surveillance technology? Yeah, I think the first point to note is, you know, that some of these things will turn out. I mean, these most recent ones, why I say that is the NORAD commander's statement that it's an unconventional propulsion source. The Chinese and Russian still at their next generation,

which we have good insight to. I mean, these people I've talked to, we have pretty good insight into how they're developing their next generation of capabilities. So hypersonic glide vehicles, for example, still based on flight surface characteristics, propulsion, and also the fact that these unconventional things have been essentially described for decades

in a way that you would expect an adversary or the United States would have deployed these interactions to China for Taiwan, for example, Russia, Ukraine, the United States, so maintain global foreign policy supremacy, whatever you want they would have delivered. We have no intelligence information to suggest that there's been some breakthrough by these countries over a long period of time. And secondly, I think the point to note is that when you look at things, these most recent incidents, that again, being described as unconventional, how are they

operating. Well, you need a launch platform to get them there, right? You need to, you know, submarines can launch these things. It's very hard for submarines to get that close to the United States. Certainly very hard for them to operate something that would suddenly appear in the middle of the country. And so it just doesn't add up. Again, there are, like with the drone element off the West Coast, some of that, although I think more limited than sometimes people, or it's not everything, certainly. There is a Chinese. The PLA will fly them off tankers, drones, advanced drones.

But the unique ones that show, again, those breakthrough technologies in terms of the data and the witness reports, the Tick-Tac in 2004, Dave Fraver, for example, that is not China, Russia, and the United States. And because it's not that and no other nation, it leaves either the mass hallucination effect, which I just don't think is credible, or it leaves something truly unconventional going on. And again, I suppose the top line answer to your question is everyone I've talked to,

and I'm sure far better journalists kind of doing the national security beat, have talked to. There is no information to suggest the Chinese or Russians or another actor, Elon Musk, the United States, have these capabilities in a delivered platform. And again, we're talking decades here. This isn't just something that we've started. That's a good point. Yeah, and okay, so to his point here, we get, we got to break down quite a few things. Number one, you know, they often scrutinize these fighter pilots and say that they can't discern a UFO from advanced weapon tech, right?

And I want to talk about that for a second because, you know, when you look at X and you look at the Twitter UFO community in whole, there is infighting on all sides. You have the debunkers, you have UFO people, you have Ashton Forbes, and the people that are kind of on the advanced tech. Hex side, I guess, maybe is what I would call it. Obviously, because Ashton Ford believes that M.H.370, according to videos and all that stuff, is the result of advanced U.S. weaponry, things that we've never, never could imagine that we would actually have. And we'll get into that in the minute. But let's just start at the very least with the fighter pilots that cannot discern UFOs from advanced tech. Now, I've talked about this on the podcast many times. I'm very knowledgeable about aviation because I've been in the community and in aviation for many years.

I know aviation very, very well. And, you know, it is something that I have a passion for, something I've worked around and been in for a very long time. And to say that fighter pilots cannot discern a UFO or non-human intelligence or even a Chinese advanced weaponry system versus something that, like, for example, Commander David Fravor said in 2014 when he saw the Tick-Tac UFO and he was, you know, he was basically orbiting down to this craft that was what appeared to be almost communicating with something, some much larger craft, a mother ship of sorts as he described it. This thing was, you know, going down to the ocean, yeah, to the ocean surface. And there was these massive waves that was coming up when this massive craft came up from the ocean. As this thing realized that they were there, it almost basically turned around and somewhat

I guess what you could say or best describe is looked at them. And then it moved up into almost their like direct field of vision, like right across from them at their same altitude. And about that same time, this craft literally disappeared. And then they picked this craft up on radar. The, was it the Nimitz, I think, the USS Nimitz. Yes. Aircraft carrier picked this thing up. I think it was 30 seconds later on radar, 600 miles away.

in about one or two seconds. Was this the video where like, oh, yeah, we got it. Well, I think that was that was one other video. Yeah, I mean, there's been multiple, right? I guess that's what's saying is it's very hard to pick up these things because they don't move like normal aircraft. These things move in ways that aircraft on Earth don't move. They can turn around in a 90 degree angle like this. They can come and disappear.

They can go across light speeds and disappear and then show up another place. and you're looking around the sky saying where in the world of this thing go. This is not something that we have. No, I don't think so. Or that we've shown that we have. Let's just put it that way. And look, here's the reality. And this is the thing I've always said.

Fighter pilots number one are not only is their number one job to be able to learn their aircraft, know their aircraft. You have to be the very best of your aircraft. Dog fighting. For those of you to have watched the movie's top gun, either one or two, dog fighting is a huge. part of fighter training. And it is something that these fighter pilots are rigorously trained for on a daily basis. We're talking about actual maneuvers.

We're talking about a very steep process of learning how to deal with not only dog fighting, but actually handling a fighter aircraft. You know, for example, the T-45 Goss Hawk, which is the, the aircraft that is used in training for most pilots that go on to actually fly the F-18s, which is what commander. David Fraber was the F-18 Super Hornet, which was one of the most advanced fighters at the time in 2014. But also, the other part of their training is they sit in classrooms for hours and hours and hours and hours a day to learn every single thing, all intelligence that the United States government possibly has on Chinese weaponry and aircraft to learn about Russian aircraft, to learn about Israeli, to learn about even though they're ally, but still. You still get to know all that shit, which, by the way, most of Israeli aircraft are sent to Israel from us.

Yeah, and Chinese has bottled and kind of stole our recipe for aircraft. They built their own, but they used our recipe of what we already had. And it saved them millions of dollars. Well, it does because you always have spies, right? And for example, there were over 1,500 spies in the Manhattan Project. There were 1,500 spies they identified that was going on in the Manhattan Project at the time. very similarly, by the way, to the F-22 or the F-35 projects. Now, the F-35, in my opinion, has a lot of issues as far as fighter aircraft.

And there's a lot of reasons why they have a lot of issues. They cut funding on a lot of that research. They did a lot of things. And then they started to realize that the F-22 is going to be their flagship next-generation fighter. And so now the F-22 is pretty good as far as, you know, avoiding trouble. But the F-35 still has a lot of issues. part of that, in my opinion, I think, is some of the hovering capabilities and the engine mounts.

There's a lot of different things that can go wrong with that platform. But nonetheless, these fighter pilots train to know what their most advanced adversarial possibilities are in the air. And so if you're telling me, if this is either the U.S. government or China or Russia, I could at the very least say that then fighter pilots are not given the information. If the United States actually knows China or Russia has something like this and they're not telling our fighter pilots this, then that's 100% the most insane thing I've ever heard. Number two, if it was U.S. advanced tech, then that's also kind of crazy that you would not let fighter pilots know or at the very least because there were fighter pilots, for example, commander or sorry, fighter pilot Ryan Graves that was operating off the coast of Virginia. and he was in a squadron of pilots that there were probably 18 to 20 fighter pilots that every single day,

they went off the coast. They experienced these things. They experienced these craft. And in some cases, they would be flying formation on training sorties. And when they would fly in these sorties, these things would split their airplane, meaning not split their actual aircraft. They would split their formation and literally fly in between them almost like 900 to 1,000 miles per hour. and so you obviously understand how dangerous that is, but you also have to understand how advanced that would even be to be able to do that,

to be able to split a formation. Just imagine guys out there, the Blue Angels. You see how the Blue Angels fly, even though they fly extremely close. Most actual fighter units or fighter squadrons do not typically fly that close when it comes of sortie missions, but they fly pretty damn close. I'm talking about within two or three feet from each other in some cases.

And so if this was U.S. advanced tech, and you're doing this shit to our fire pilots on a daily basis, doesn't make sense. The other thing I got to think about it here is that if we had this technology, why are we not taken over the world? And why are we not using it? Yes. Why are we not using it? Why are we not using it in Russia?

Why are we not using it in even the Israel-Palestine thing? Why are we not using it in all the various wars we've had over the many years? I'm talking about Afghanistan, Iraq, Bosnia. I mean, there's so many wars that we could have used. used it. We would have been done with the war, however that we would have or should have been done with that war. I just think, and this has been my big debate with Ashton Forbes all the time, which I'm not saying Ashton's wrong. I don't know. Ashton could be right. And there's actually something we're going to talk about here in just a little bit that kind of goes more towards Ashton's point.

But I'm just saying that my biggest thing is if we had technology to either teleport an airplane or have this advanced technology like this, I think we would 100% control the world a lot more than we do right now. And as far as planes going, I think as fast as we can go is Mach 9 right now? No. Or is that right? No, no, no. What is it? No, I mean, the fastest fighters usually about close to mock 2.

Oh, so I'm way off. Yeah, yeah. Well, I was going with the movie because I think they went to mock night. Maybe that was... Well, but listen, but you have to understand, too, there are hypersonic missiles, right, that Russia has. The United States has had these missiles.

we've been testing hypersonic missile capabilities with our ICBMs or our intercontinental ballistic missiles. And so we know apparently we have some proof that Russia has used some of these hypersonic missiles in Ukraine. Yeah, in Ukraine.

And these hypersonic missiles are essentially fly two to three to four times in some cases the speed of sound. They are so much faster, obviously, in any fire jet we have. And they're very hard to also intercept because they do fly so fast.

And according to some reports, some of these hypersonic missiles not only fly straight at three to four times a speed of sound, but they could potentially even navigate in a direct left or right angle. Now, I don't know if that's verified. We don't know 100% that's true.

That would be very telling if it was true, if they could go from 3,000, 4,000 miles an hour to turn in a left or right angle instantaneously. To me, that doesn't sound correct. But if that is correct, then we have a lot more talking about a lot of things. But these are unmanned missiles. Well, of course.

Well, of course. What are you talking about unmanned? Yeah, they're missiles. They're not manned. So I'm talking about if we were in. Yeah, we're not talking about like a space program. But if we were in an airplane, the fastest you're saying we can go is mock two. Yeah, I mean, fighter jets typically or somewhere around there.

I mean, there are some fighters that might be able to push a little more. So what mock do you think these missiles are going out? I don't know. Probably mock three, four, five. So it's not even close to these things that we're seeing out there. And another thing, when these. guys are training and they're in formation and these things are coming through their formation do you not think if it was a foreign adversary that they would be shooting at

each other i mean i think it would be like a war battle right then if they're in training they're like holy cow here's china coming in between our our formation we got to you know we got to shoot them down yeah and and you got to you got to understand that you know like um the speed of sound 761 miles an hour right um so if you're You know, these missiles can travel three to four times that hypersonic capabilities, right? And so that's my point is like we do know that Russia has a lot of technology because for those that don't know, during this Manhattan project and during Operation Paperclip, for example, we went and tried to pull as many scientists from Germany over to the United States. That was Operation Paperclip. We actually created NASA based on Operation Paperclip during the Second World War.

This was after the Second World War. Now, we did not get all those scientists, which was, by the way, a lot of these guys over there in Germany were creating freaking flying disc. They were creating things that appeared to be UFOs. And in my opinion here, and we're about to get into a clip soon about this, Germany had something. I don't know how they had something. They either communicated with an advanced alien life or non-human intelligence. They had something. And the United States realized that they knew that they had to get on top of this.

It was a race. It was a race for alien technology in my mind. And you're about to find out why that is. But even Roosevelt and the letters and some of the leaked documents that was released based on what Roosevelt said about how we need to harness this technology of basically interstellar technology. Interstellar power. We had this massive system going on and this massive race. for war, unlike the Cold War, this was, in my opinion, a race for how can we reverse engineer, whatever the hell happened.

We had also during this time in Germany and surrounding areas, we had crash reports of UFOs over there. We've talked about in the podcast before, just like we did in Roswell, just like we did all around the world. Right. We're not the only ones that have crash places. No, crash retrieval programs. And during this time of the Manhattan Project, Germany was ahead of us.

And they were, like you said, they were building these like spaceship looking desk things. And we spent, I mean, sorry, we sent over spies to figure out what they were doing. Yeah. You know, and at the same time, the Soviets are sending spies to us. So everyone's spying on each other this whole time. No, you're 100% correct. And the thing about it is, guys, is that that's just the first part of what he said. Do I think the fighter pilots don't know about advanced tech?

If they don't, then the government is doing a very bad disservice to the United States. It's people. They're doing a very bad disservice to our fighter pilots. And you're talking about people like a commander over an entire squadron of fighters. This was even in 2014. Trust me. This didn't just happen over the past three years. We also had the frequency of UFOs, obviously over the past 10 to 15 years have increased.

We have debated this many times on this podcast. Did they increase or did they not? Or were we just looking more in the sky? Okay, let me go ahead and debunk. We were looking more in the sky because of COVID. I want to debunk that. That's not true because we have had more military encounters at the very least since 2014 and on. We've had more military encounters than we've ever had in history.

And this is the frequency of these accounts have skyrocketed. You know, when we're talking about could this be Russia or Chinese tech? No, I don't think so because at the very least, Russia hates the United States. If they had this technology, they would obviously be using it in Ukraine. this Ukraine situation would not even be a thing anymore. Ukraine will be done. The United States would be done also. And if China had it for damn sure,

because China is racing to try to keep up with our fighter jets. That's why they, I think it's the J35 is what they created. Or if I'm not mistaken, it looks very, very... Yeah, from our F-15, I think. No, no, no. No, the J-35 or whatever it is, is basically a carbon copy of our F-22. It's just, it's bigger,

but most people actually say that the Chinese version is actually better. It's faster, it's more. But they got our plans. Yeah, they got our plans. And they advanced them. Yeah, absolutely. Is what they did. Yeah.

And so not only did they reverse engineer plans, but they also made it better. And so that's obviously a big problem with national intelligence, national secrets. There is a reason for national secrets, especially with adversaries in the world we live in. But nonetheless, it looks like they might have made a better aircraft than the United States has. And talking about in the last 10 years of seeing these UAPs more frequently, especially during war, We even seen videos in Ukraine that people have said, these are anomalies. This is something that's not supposed to be there. But you think back to World War II, even the food fighters.

Yeah. You know, during this time, people in fighter jets were saying they're seeing something that was not functioning like a regular jet. And they're like, is this foreign adversaries or is this something else? Is it Germans? Yeah. And that's what they were wondering. Yeah. And they're like, these things are just going right.

past us. We don't even know what this is. Yeah. And it was lights, balls of energy and look like all that. So to Sherry's point, let's get into the next video. Was President Roosevelt in possession of extraterrestrial technology right now? Why does President Roosevelt matter? Well, all around the Manhattan Project, Roosevelt and Eisenhower and all this stuff kind of came in. Eisenhower is a part of. He was a commander of the European fleet or whatever. He was not a president at the time. He was a commander at that time. Roosevelt was the president until Truman actually was the one that dropped the bomb on Hiroshima Nagasaki. But nonetheless, let's talk about and break down what Roosevelt might have known about UFOs back then.

Here you go. December 13, 1944, commander of Allied forces in Europe, Dwight Eisenhower, nearly a decade before he's elected president, issues a press release acknowledging that unidentified objects are interacting with Allied planes called foo fighters. Foo Fighters is the name given to strange balls of light that were seen by pilots during the Second World War. Now, if you actually drill down into some of the detailed reports, you see very clearly that some pilots were talking about structured craft. There were sightings from US and UK pilots.

So, of course, the thinking was at first this was some sort of Axis secret weapon. Maybe the Nazis or the Japanese. had developed something. Some of these lights would get close enough that they actually seemed to cause engine malfunctions and disturbances until they would move away and often just shoot up into the sky. So the question is

what were these things? To this day there's not a really clear explanation as to what they were. With the first sightings of the foo fighters, the British, the Americans, they all thought it would be enemy technology. And that scared them because they couldn't

out-maneuver these, nor did they have any defense and couldn't shoot them down. General Eisenhower's office, the Supreme Headquarters, issued a statement that was published in the New York Times, stating that the so-called footh fighters have created a great deal of concern. It is possibly a new German weapon. At this point, we don't know, but we are taking it seriously. and we're looking into it. Now with Eisenhower and the press release that mentioned

that the foo fighters remained unexplained, that is arguably saying whatever we're dealing with here, it's real. Now, of course, unexplained doesn't automatically mean it must be extraterrestrial,

but nonetheless, it's a fascinating admission. It seems obvious that Roosevelt would be aware of some of these U.S. UFO issues, they would be potentially important if they were enemy weapons. The question is, what did he think about it? UFO investigators believe the president's thinking is made clear in yet another astonishing

memo, never before seen on national television, that he wrote just two days after the Battle of L.A. It speaks about atomic secrets learned from study of celestial devices, and material in possession of the army that may be of great significance toward the development of a super weapon of war. The phrase that Roosevelt used in that memo where he describes the necessity or the value in creating a super weapon of war. Of course, we were developing

the atomic bomb at that very time. When we're talking about material possession by the army, we're talking about possession of non-human technology. Did President Roosevelt keep the truth about UFO encounters from the American people in the name of national security? Researchers

say yes, and point to perhaps the most important evidence. Covered. A classified memo written by Roosevelt in February 1944, two years after the LA events, a drew previously unknown committee on non-terrestrial science and technology, in which he agrees that non-terrestrial know-how in atomic energy, must be used in perfecting superweapons of war to affect the complete defeat of Germany and Japan. Roosevelt also wrote that we should take every advantage of such wonders that have come to us, and he acknowledges the reality that our planet is not the only one harboring intelligent life in the universe.

The double-top secret memo in which he explicitly refers to this as not from our civilization has been disputed. But these documents were obtained in such a way that makes me think that they're legitimate, that they're real. Now, when we come to the Roosevelt document that talks about a quantized. requiring technology and trying to come to grips with the concept that we might not be alone in the universe. There's no doubt that technology acquisition is something that governments and perhaps presidents have thought about in relation to UFOs. The president's memo to a committee devoted to science and technology not of this earth suggests that our government was, in fact, in possession of otherworldly technology. and that Roosevelt knew far more about UFOs than he ever let on in public. Throughout Roosevelt's administration, we know that Roosevelt employed very high security

to keep the UFO phenomenon under wraps because it was as classified as the atomic bomb. The trail of uncovered documents proves to researchers the shocking reality that recovered alien technology helped the U.S. U.S. build an atomic super weapon of war. But what will the next president do with this incredible government secret? Coming up. It was the U.S. military that said we've recovered a flying disc. The evidence is in the form of some leaked documents called the MJ12 documents.

Under President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, the first official government reports of UFO activity became top secret, including one about the interplanetary origin of aircraft. in the Battle of L.A. And another about a super weapon of war being developed with non-terrestrial know-how. When FDR dies in April 1945, those secrets were passed to Vice President Harry Truman, who assumes the presidency. And just four months later, Truman orders the dropping of the atomic bomb on Japan. A new superweapon of unearthly power that documents revealed was developed with technology,

not of this earth. The modern UFO phenomenon really began during and in the few years immediately after the Second World War. Why, if there are extraterrestrial intelligences out there, did they suddenly show up during and just after the war? Firstly, we developed and used in anger nuclear weapons. And that would be very visible from space. So actually, if nothing else, it's an attention-getter. I think it's definitely likely that mastering nuclear technology is a milestone that would very likely get the attention of any observing intelligence

that has the ability to watch us. I mean, a nuclear explosion is a kind of mimicking of the sun, particularly nuclear fusion, and that's an important threshold. So there definitely seems to be a connection there. And I think the explosions in Japan in 1945 could be said to have initiated this new level of interest. There's a lot to say here. And by the way, you know, when he talks about there towards the end, it's like, you know, these nuclear weapons that we dropped in Hiroshima and Nagasaki must have got the attention of those people outside of Earth. Why does it have to be those people or aliens or whatever outside of Earth?

why couldn't it be things that are actually in this earth? Right. Or things that are around this earth, right? Because look, the biggest thing I've always talked about with the UFO stuff is like we've always thought about UFOs as being like a little being from another little little planet that he got his little spaceship and went a little light speed away. But that's not necessarily true. I think there's so much about the UFO phenomenon in UIP. We just don't get. And if you start getting an interdimensional out.

the spiritual side of this or even our past cells, future selves, which is, you know. But I want to just stop you right. Real quick because I think that there's a combination of different intelligence for sure. Around the earth that are coming from different places within the earth, with, you know, outside of our, in our solar system and outside our solar system and really outside of our Milky Way galaxy. Yeah. Yeah. I think there's different things that are visiting from different places. So that all does make sense because it could be more than one thing visiting us.

Yeah, absolutely. Or here. Yeah, it could be all of the above, right? And that's something that we always, Sherry and I always definitely discuss. You know, when we sit outside on our patio, we're looking up at the stars or we're going somewhere and just trying to, I mean, we try to do that so often. But it's just like we want to, we always want to see stuff, right? And oftentimes we do, actually.

And I think the more you open yourself up to it, you can. but let's not get too far off the battle of LA where they're talking about here the battle of LA was actual it was an actual thing they had all of these crafts show up over Los Angeles back in the was it 30s or the four early 40s I don't remember I don't have anything I'm actually looking at I think it was the 30s or early 40s this battle of LA apparently was massive they were talking about interplanetary craft or outer planetary craft to where it was extraterrestrial in nature, they knew that these craft were not of this world. At least they did not think.

And we still don't know the 100% truth behind the Battle of L.A., which I do want to go a deep dive on Battle of L.A. at some point in time, but the Battle of L.A. was happening during this time. You had atomic secrets, as Roosevelt is talking about in a declassified or at least leaked memo, where he's saying we have atomic secrets learned from celestial devices. Now, what to me that makes sense is that it is a downed or crashed spacecraft. He's talking about devices. So essentially, I'm thinking he's talking about a craft. And then as you start tying Oppenheimer to potentially crash retrieval programs during even

Roswell and other crashes. Oppenheimer, from what many say and many whistleblers talk about, Over history, Oppenheimer was a part of these crash retriever programs because the government hired him to examine and try to understand what the hell they were looking at and how they possibly could get some of this, I guess, I don't know what you want to call it, technology into our science here on Earth. And one of the conspiracy theories that come out of the Manhattan Project is in Washington, actually in Central Park. they say there are underground bunkers there that are miles and miles long and we keep, you know, it's still there. And now it's like a whole freaking city under there. But when we started building it during the Manhattan Project, some people say as a conspiracy theory that during Roswell, the crash, that we got these aliens that crashed. They were still alive.

And we nursed them back to health. and we put them in these underground bunkers and let them live their lives out there in exchange for their technology. Yeah. That was one conspiracy theory that has actually came out from the Manhattan Project. And if you think about everything we're talking about, I mean, I don't think it's too far-fetched to even believe that. No. And I think that, you know, there's other conspiracy theories that come out of the underground bunker in Central Park is, you know, know, other people live there too to give us information that we let people there that shouldn't

been there. And I'll get into that more lately, like later. Yeah, lately. You're going to get into more lately. Lately, we're going to get more into it. No, but listen, no, you're 100% right. And when you say things like that, right, that there was potentially a bunker under Central Park in New York City, very fascinating. I've looked a little bit into this, not as much as you have. But yeah, the underground bunker potentially under Central Park is very fascinating. You're going to think about a massive city like New York and then they have this park. And there are often times been theories that there are underground tunnels that potentially lead into underneath Central Park in New York City. You got to think about the Denver International Airport where many people believe there are definitely underground tunnels that lead into the Denver International Airport.

most people don't understand that I think that we have an entire another earth underneath us. Oh, absolutely. And I'm not even talking about hollow earth. I'm not talking about aliens or anything that stuff. I'm literally talking about ourselves. Yes. And they're saying under this park is even a lake. Yeah.

And they have the streets and miles and miles of city under there now. Yeah. But they said, you know, according to my research, it started with the Manhattan Project. Yeah, for sure. And it goes back to one of those things. It's like the elites and the presidents and who. whoever that's in charge, all the people that are a part of this cabal, the system of, hey, guys, we're going to piss off everybody in around the world.

And if, you know, it just so happens, if there is a nuclear war or some other kind of devastating type of war, World War III, that is even more, you know, devastating, I guess, what I would say, than a nuclear war. We can just go underground because we have underground cities. We have underground towns. We can literally go from the east coast to the west coast. you guys can look that up yourselves and this is not just the United States by the way

Vladimir Putin has an entire city underground his actual house and compound is underground so he's not worried necessarily about a nuclear war and at the end what you all have to understand is that where at one time I think our government was created to at least put order and justice in and be there for the people nowadays it's they're there for themselves

they do not give a shit about you you have to understand that we all have to understand in it and realize that now. And even with the Manhattan Project, think about all the various experiments that they experimented on our people. It's almost like we're living in a test tube. We're living in a scientific experiment that the elites are experimented on us.

And we're all literally the rats that are in cages waiting for the next experiment. And I often think about that. Yeah. And when you talk about the elites, that's when we go to the like new world government people, the people that are in charge of all these things. These major companies, We've talked about IBM, for example, in other podcasts.

They were the ones that actually started, like, doing the stamps for the Holocaust, the Jews that were going through. They had, like, a system to put them into, like, a computing system to say who's a Jew and who's not. It was almost like a punch card system. It was one of the first punch card systems. And they did it to, and by the way, a lot of the Jews at that time did not know what they were doing. But what IBM helped, and this is how IBM. was created and started. What IBM helped Hitler with was to identify all the Jews. And so it was at the time the best way of knowing and understanding who is this,

who is not, vice versa. And now we have systems in place that we know everybody on every level based on your social media, your phone, if you go to the doctor, you know, if you fill out a job application, are you white, are you black, are you this, or you that? I mean, they don't need IBM anymore for that type of shit. We have everything in a database somewhere. And if they wanted to kill off half the population or a quarter of the population or a certain race or a certain demographic, they could easily do it because they know where everybody is and they could figure out how to do that in a very methodical way. And that's the scary thing. Yeah.

And I believe I am originated in America. Yeah. If I'm not mistaken, I don't want to put it out there. But I'm pretty sure. We had a lot to do with helping them. Nazi Germans. I'm just going to tell you that with all my research. And I was just blown away about that.

The West did for absolutely sure. Yes. And I saw a post yesterday from a friend of mine, but he's also a big business guy. He owns big time companies around the world, Philippines, you name it. And now he's getting big in the AI and all this stuff. But he had posted something. And I thought it was interesting because he, everybody that follows him thousands of thousands, thousands of thousands of people.

And this is on Facebook. You know, they said he had posted something. something. He said, hey, I was in the airport. The person that TSA said, look in the camera. And he said, no, thank you. And they said, okay, go on. So now the airports,

they're starting to implement this camera face recognition software system that you, they're telling you to look in the camera to scan your face. Oh, my God. And he said, no, I don't want to thank you you or whatever he said. But they're like, okay, go ahead. So it's not mandatory, I guess, at this time. No, not this time.

But it probably will become, mandatory, just like they're going to like imprint your eyes and look at your eyes and know who you are and scan it, your fingerprints, everything else. Well, they're already doing that because you've got to think, I mean, for those that have iPhones or I don't know if Samsung does it, but you know, you have finger. Yeah. Face recognition. Face recognition.

Your fingerprint. Fingerprint. Yeah. And it even tells and, you know, sometimes like I'll put my sunglasses on. And I've done this. I put glasses on it. It doesn't recognize me. What recognizes me with my sunglasses.

Well, it does not. If I have like regular reading glasses. on, it does not recognize me. That's weird. Yeah, it doesn't. Well, if I put sunglasses on, it recognizes me. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah, it's weird.

I mean, even a sunglasses on, it recognizes me. I don't know if it's like I got wrinkles made more than you do it right here. So I recognize wrinkles. But it, look, the reality of this situation is, is that we are in a new world, a new place that we have to understand that, you know, if if there are all these signs that seem weird and seem like, hey, maybe they're trying to get a lot. of data. Yeah. They should probably opt out of those things. And I'm going to do that myself.

Oh, absolutely. I've been thinking about that as well. Yes, but remember, all this technology started with the Manhattan Project. This is what's so crazy to me. A lot of it has, yeah. All this is, you know, we've talked about spider webs before. But this Manhattan project was like the center of the nucleus of all these other programs that were developed through the Manhattan program, Operation Paperclip, Operation

Sunshine. There were so many other things that were secretive to everyone in the world that went into all these different directions. I've been talking about weather manipulation came from there. Yeah. Yeah. And I think all those things you're talking about is why we probably need to do a third episode on this, like what they're using and weather manipulation and all that stuff and where they got it from and all of that. Yes. We're probably going to do a third episode on that.

But yeah, there's so many things tied to Manhattan Project. Daily Mail, Science says the haunting connection between UFOs and America's nuclear weapons is laid bare in a fascinating new study, which concludes they're trying to stop us from annihilating ourselves. This is what the article reads. Do they come in peace? The question has hung over the UFO mystery forever, but a new study comes closer to an answer than ever before. So since the United States detonated its first atomic bomb at the Trinity test site in 1945, dozens of accounts of UFOs have been logged by military witnesses and government. scientists working with America's sensitive nuclear arsenal. Skeptics have often turned to question in the veracity of the memories of these military

witnesses or blaming faulty equipment, as we talked about earlier. But the connection between UFOs and nuclear sites have persisted in India, Russia, and elsewhere across the globe, leading many to wonder, are aliens stopping us from exterminating ourselves? And also, I want to talk about this. This article talks about blaming faulty equipment. that's what a lot of debunkers and scientists and all these people have, that's their biggest argument with Commander David Fravor and all these other ones. Oh, this is faulty equipment.

This is why we're seeing the tick tag. This is why we're doing this. The reality of that situation was is that when these fighter pilots started to even see these craft, including what Ryan Graves said, Ryan Graves went in front of Congress on behalf of multiple fighter pilots. And a lot of these fighter pilots could not go and be a whistleblower. They could not go in front of Congress because many fighter pilots, when they leave the military, what is their job? going to commercial aviation. And so if you're out there trying to say that you encountered UFOs or EAPs on a daily basis

and you're saying all this shit, you're probably not going to get hired by an airline because it is a public relations thing that they don't want to deal with, all of these things. And so that's why Commander David Fravor, that's why Ryan Graves, they did a big service to the aviation community by coming out and talking about these things. But the reality is, is that when they started talking about the faulty equipment, Maybe this was faulty equipment, Fleer systems and all this stuff. What actually happened was when the United States Navy Air Force and Marine aircraft upgraded their radar systems is when they started actually being able to identify these craft. My big question of all that would be how and why did they upgrade those radar systems and where did they get the know-how and technology to be able to upgrade those systems to then start being able to find these UAPs and UFOs on radar or Fleer.

or whatever other sonar systems. But I think they did this thing to put these people in their place for them not to talk. They made it known if you talk about that. You are going to look like you're mentally ill. You are not going to ever have another career again. You're going to be out. You know, kind of like they did Bob Lazar, you know, when he was talking about when it was departmentalized and they were working on reverse engineering.

And he went in and he pretty much kind of spilled the beans on them. they took all his credentials away. And I think that's what they're doing with people that operate aircrafts or were once in the military and then go into commercial aircraft. If you say anything, we are going to take everything away from you and you're not going to have a career. Yeah. This is what they do. They will erase your history. They will discredit you.

They will demonize you. They will put you in jail. They will kill you if they have to. I mean, think about the Bowen whistleblowers. I mean, most people, we've done episodes on that. I don't know how many numbers we get on those episodes. I know the Bowen Whistblowers actually got almost close to a million downloads, which we're very proud of. And we're proud of it because people need to know.

People need to know that this is actually happening. What is actually going on is really going on. And you even think about, I'm getting off topic for just a second, but this is, it puts it in perspective. It's even like cannabis, you know, for example. You know, cannabis has always been a taboo during my lifetime. Like, it's so bad. If you smoke weed, you're terrible. You're terrible.

You're a drug addict, you're this or that. But if you go back in history, they use cannabis as medicine. Oh, for sure. And then they got rid of this medicine and said, no, we're not going to do that. It's illegal. You cannot use it for anything. But now the tables are coming back around and we're starting to see the benefits that cannabis is, you know, can be for medicine. Yeah.

But here's here's my thought on this and we'll move on to this article. I was talking to you earlier about, you know, you have. if cannabis was really as healing as a lot of people say it is, it would not even be starting to be legalized, in my opinion. Now, I could be wrong, right? I think it does do benefits for, you know, probably... Well, I'm just talking about, like, even cancer patients, for example. Yeah, all that stuff.

And especially pain management or stuff like that. Inflammation, maybe, whatever. No, I think it attacks cells, too. It can in high doses and, you know, and all that. I mean, if you look at it and all that stuff. But if you're someone that comes out and says, hey, guys, I'm a scientist and I have proven, I have it right here, right here. Here's all my studies. I have this new pill that I had 150 cancer patients.

They all had stage four cancer. I just gave them this pill, all of them. And they all were healed in a week. Guess what's going to happen to that person that says that dead. It's going to be killed. Yeah. Dead. You're dead.

And you'll never hear from that shit again. Do you remember that happened? I think it was a guy that had a cure for AIDS, as a matter of fact. I think it was on an airplane. Or was that cancer? I can't remember. No, it was cancer. It was one of the two.

I think it was cancer. He said he had a cure for cancer. And that plane had several other really important people on that plane. It crashed. And it crashed. Yeah. Yeah. And all of his information went away too.

It's the same way with energy. Nikola Tesla. Many people believe he was murdered. You know, you think about Ashton's starting to talk about this over unity stuff. And I'm like, all right, well, have fun with that. It's not going to be fun. If it's legit, it ain't going to be cool.

But the article also talks about UFO sightings move from nuclear weapons manufacturing to nuclear missile silos. So as the years went on, so from 1948, 47, 49, 5051, whatever, you started seeing these UFO sightings around and above nuclear manufacturing places to then nuclear missile silos. And so you obviously saw this transgression, this procession of where were we seeing UFOs? What were the accounts of these UFOs? And they obviously shifted to silos from manufacturing. And especially as we started getting more advanced with intercontinental ballistic missiles, how we were able to possibly transport these nuclear devices.

And then the smaller we got these nuclear weapons, we started really seeing the interest in UFOs over silos rather than manufacturing. because then it's almost like they were like, okay, we understand the silos. We don't think that's a big deal. Now we got to worry about the, sorry, the manufacturing. But now we got to worry about the silos because we got to make sure that when they want to destroy themselves, because it's going to happen. We're getting closer to that every day. Oh, absolutely. Between the United States, Russia, with this whole Ukraine situation.

Just for example, the other day, Robert F. Kennedy had posted about, you know, why is Ukraine using Western weapons? to destroy intercontinental ballistic missile defense systems inside of Russia with United States weapons. You know, obviously if you're Russia, you're going to be like, well, why would they be doing that? Because we know that this is a proxy war between the United States and Russia. Exactly. There's no question about that. But also now you have Ukraine using Western missiles to destroy their defense systems

in the event of the United States attacking Russia with a nuclear missile. So this is getting in a high alert red zone area right now. Putin is not going to stand around and do nothing and say, oh, okay. They're going after our facilities and they're taking down our radar and we're just going to stand around and not do anything about it. You just think, you know, you play opposite if Putin was doing that to us. Oh, God. What would even happen?

What would we be doing right now? Well, let me tell you, though, what Putin is doing. Russia hasn't moved not only nuclear submarine. Marines in the Cuba. They left a week ago. They just arrived yesterday. They also have battleships that are now docked up in Cuba. So they all left, I think, a week ago or so, they are all docked now in Cuba.

So they are moving their assets into our region, our Cuba region. They're playing the same game. Yeah. But I cannot blame them because we're doing that to them. Yeah, they're playing the same game. Of course, they've got like ante up, you know. But this is a game of war. But for the people, I actually have a comment still on X somewhere where I said, you know, look, that was the comment on RFKs.

I said, you know, we're playing a dangerous game. And, you know, Russia is not going to just sit around and be passive forever. You know, they're going to start actually acting upon the things that West is doing. And so some of the negative comments I got on that was, oh, well, yeah, Russia is so passive that they invaded their neighbor and all this shit. The reality is I've never applied to any of those people. but just to reply to you guys now in case anybody listens and that's your thought. I'll reply to you right now. Here's the thing.

If you don't understand probably why the Russia-Ukraine situation actually ever happened, and I could be wrong, right? I could be wrong on this. We've had a guy that fights for Ukraine on our podcast three times now. He is now, I believe, in the special forces of Ukraine. He was an ex-military U.S. soldier special forces. The thing is, though, is like my only thinking with this is, is that what I think most people don't understand is why Putin invaded Ukraine.

Number one, we were continuing, at the very least, we were continuing to threat Ukraine coming into NATO, which essentially would have allowed us to basically do anything in Ukraine. It was like the United States basically becomes Ukraine. Also, we had our own undersecretary or whatever her name is. I can't even remember her name right now, but we had her admit in front of Congress that we, We had 13 to 15 bio, she called them bio security or some shit. Some kind of security lab. But what they meant was bio weapon labs.

Yeah, exactly. We had like 13 to 15 of those around the border of Russia. Russia had commented on this at one point in time and said, we're not going to allow this shit with these bio weapons labs on our border or near our border. Also now, there's been a lot of speculation that how many soldiers do we actually have on the ground in Ukraine, all of this shit? And how many weapons do we actually have in Ukraine that we, the world doesn't even know about. Maybe Russia does or they're trying to find that out.

But at the very least, I think we probably, if you look at the billions and billions of dollars we've sent to Ukraine and you don't think that we have potential nuclear warheads inside of Ukraine. Absolutely. But do you not think this is a way of fighting dirty? Yeah, I don't know. You know, when you have a proxy wars, I think it's fighting, I think it's fighting dirty. You're using another country to do what you really want to do. Well, it's like sucker punching someone. Yeah.

It's really what it's dirty. Yeah, it's really sucker punching someone. You're trying to utilize, you're trying to kind of go under the radar just to give them a death blow. And I think Russia picked up on this. You know, and look, Russia has, look, Russia is not, obviously they're not perfect. But they're not stupid either. No, they're not stupid either, right? I mean, it's one of those things.

I think Russia is probably a dictatorship. You look at the way their government operates. Our government is a dictator. ship too now. Well, maybe. And we're about to see in 2024 how much it is. But anyways, as we were talking about that, so now a new decades-long study has analyzed over 500 of the best supported UFO cases from the heights of the Cold War and hauntingly concluded this intelligence understands atomics and they understand atomic weaponry. UFO reports over America's nuclear arsenal appeared to shift from sites where the bombs were made to missile silos and U.S. air bases

as the Cold War arms race grew. Now, that's one of the key findings from the new work, a series of three studies led by retired U.S. Air Force Staff Sergeant Larry Hancock and a data analyst affiliate with Harvard's UFO Hunting Galileo Project, Ian Porritt, along with their research team. Now, the group focused their analysis of official military and police reports of UFOs from 1945 to 1975, avoiding poorly supported accounts and ambiguous newspaper stories to focus on cases with multiple witnesses and signals evidence like radar. Now, their study, which only covered U.S. cases, also used reports of UFOs spotted above non-nuclear army bases and nearby civilian centers to act as control groups to test against their findings of any UFO trends to America's sensitive nuclear installations.

Now, they're qualified but haunting conclusion says that, Data from these three-decade-long period leaned credence to the idea that extraterrestrials or some other intelligence has methodically surveilled America's rise to a nuclear power. Now, this intelligence understands the developmental cycle. They have some contextual knowledge on what they're looking at and what they're looking for, Hancock told Daily Mail, given these shifts in reported UFO sightings over time. Now Hancock and Port's most recent report on the connection UAP activity pattern study 1945 to 1975, military and public activities, you guys can look that up, was published in March and presented before the scientific coalition for UAP studies a few weekends ago. Among the hundreds of cases including in their analysis was the infamous March 16th, 1967 Maelstrom Air Force Base case. where witnesses reported, and by the way, these were Air Force witnesses that reported this.

But, wow, where did that just go? I need to make sure I find this. Anyways, where witnesses reported that 10 nuclear missiles were switched off by a UFO confirmed by a U.S. Strategic Air Command Report. It is a third study by Hancock and his co-authors who told Daily Mail that future work on this connection between UFO sightings and nuclear sites is on the way. Now from 1948 to 1952, as America's production of atomic weapons first ramped up, waves of UFO reportings began cropping up over Washington State's Hanford nuclear production complex, as well as Los Alamos and other sites for the Manhattan Project. What we know now is that inside the Air Force for the first seven to ten years, they sincerely believed it was the Russians. Hancock told Daily Mail.

And when they couldn't prove that, he said it became very political. The phase of Air Force official UFO investigations, when paired with that era's police UFO reports, documented over 40 cases of UFO seen near these facilities. In one illustrative case from May 21, 1949, Hanford personnel spotted a silvery disk-shaped UFO hovering over the plant, whose B reactor had generated the plutonium used in the first atomic bomb test in Trinity. Now, the UFO was simultaneously tracked on radar by nearby Moses Lake Air Force Base, which scrambled an F-82 fighter jet to intercept it in hopes that it might be a disc, according to a now-declassified Air Force intelligence information report. And it quotes, UFOs were faster than our jet. Air Force investigators noted of the failed pursuit.

These years of strange encounters were much more likely to have occurred in broad daylight than later years of UFO sightings, and often in brief. involved multiple UFOs in formation performing dazzling maneuvers, Hanford and his co-authors found. And for each of the four major U.S. nuclear weapons making facilities, they also collected and tracked UFO reports from nearby cities and non-nuclear military sites as control groups. These control regions, Santa Fe and New Mexico, for example, to contracts with Los Alamos nuclear site,

helped ensure that any spike in sightings that was not a misrepresentation of their data. And it quotes, this period, here we've got only four sites. That would be the key stuff that you would focus on, poor it told Daily Mail. And they are the four sites that they, the UFOs, focus on. You get the same sort of pattern with all four sites, he said. But as the Pentagon began arming Air Force squadrons with its new nuclear bombs and installing missile silos in American heartland, UFOs appear to follow the action there. And it quotes, if you're wanting to do a survey on U.S. nuclear complex, that is what you would

port noted. You would see the interest in these sites at these times and then the activity would drop off and that's what we see. From 1952 onward, the study found cases of UFO's probed nuclear, active U.S. nuclear weapons took presidents with a wave of sightings around America's new intercontinental ballistic missiles starting in the 1960s. When you get to those ICBM bases or interne continental ballistic missiles from about 1965 to 75, these things are occurring. at night now, Hancock pointed out. And they are there are much more intrusive. They're very low altitude. They penetrate the security

parameters of the base. He added in several of these UFO sightings, including incidents at Malmastrum Air Force Base in Montana, in which Air Force Witnesses say UFOs deactivated ICBMs have become central to demands in Congress for wider declassification of military UFO

data. Now, we've got to stop there for a second because... Just listen, this last incident that you're talking about, I think we have brought that up on another podcast, but this guy was basically at his gate. And this is when they came and deactivated the nuclear weapons. But he was at like his gate, you know, he was in this little window thing. And he sees this UFO right above him. Yeah.

And it just, it takes over control of everything he had control of. Yeah. Well, there were multiple sightings. I mean, beyond Malmstrom, there were other sightings of UFOs that would come down. into their base. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it would be a glowing, bright, red type craft.

They would deactivate, reactivate, various other things to your point. And the reality this is, is like, when we moved to intercontinental ballistic missiles, that was when they started to become more aggressive. They were becoming more aggressive because I think they knew that, damn it, they're really ramping up their shit now. And I think they also maybe knew that we stole. their technology to use for bad. Yeah, for bad, for war.

Yeah. But I also wonder, too, if, you know, they're here for the plutonium. I don't know. Maybe they need that. You know, because you think in, like, biblical days and you think about the books that are not even in the book of the Bible, they say that they had us. Yeah. They say that they pretty much made us slaves to mine gold and plutonium. Yeah.

I think it was plutonium. If I'm not mistaken, I don't know. But it's because they needed these things and they made us slaves to get these things for them to use. Which I don't believe that, by the way. Yeah. I've never, I never believe that. In my opinion, anything that I don't think, I don't think they've probably gained anything from us. I think that we have gained everything from them.

Oh, absolutely. And it's almost like that these things realize what we actually gained from them probably during the Manhattan Project. And now they're like, man, these, these, these pieces shit. Like, we're literally trying to be as peaceful as possible because, you know, who knows, if they're spiritual beings, maybe we're like, we are an angel, but I'm about to destroy these assholes. Like, I, I am about done with this.

And it just seems like that, right? I mean, it's like the more technology we get, which by the way, we could have used nuclear technology. We could have been on another planet right now. Oh, yeah. That would have harnessed. I mean, we might have been able to use. used this technology that they gave us.

And by the way, there are reports and whistleblowers that have come out and said that some of the technology that potentially these non-human intelligence, I will just put it that way, have given us, could have cured cancer and all of our elements and diseases. Oh, absolutely. What did we use it for? We used it for weapons. Yeah, warfare. And it's like we're a bunch of monkeys, dude.

And listen, I got to say this. We had a conversation on the X-Space last night. And we're talking about evolution. And one of my things was, I think I was talking to Chris or whoever it was or Alex. I can't remember what his name was. But my whole argument with evolution is just this. If we evolve from monkeys, why are they still around? Because typically you think about something you evolve from dies that something else creates and then that thing disappears.

But he had a good response to that. He did. He said there's multiple different types of monkeys. No, I know. I get that. But they're still all around. But even the things that supposedly we. involved from are still there.

Okay. But you think about, though, we have different types of humans, I guess. No, we don't. We have different colors. I mean, we have, well, I think we are definitely creating like liberals now and I don't know what the hell of those are.

And by the way, liberals used to be cool, but now we're getting a whole other species. They're just trying to make themselves non-human. Yeah. But what I will say is that to my point of this is that you've got to look back.

It's like evolution and and all these things, this all, there's so many things that still doesn't make sense about the evolutionary process. Right. I don't necessarily believe in evolution and I literally forgot what the hell I was saying here. Well, it's just like dog breeds. You know,

dog breeds cannot evolve into another like thing, another species. Well, they can, you know, they can crossbreed. But they're not going to involve into another species like a monkey or an ape or whatever involving into a human.

Yeah. No, you're right. And I think that's what you're saying. No, that's not what I was saying. I literally lost my entire point. Okay, well, I think that was a good point, too, that, you know, dogs, they're not going to develop into humans. Apes and monkeys do not develop into humans.

Humans exist already as far as what your theory is. Yeah. Because it's just, okay. No, no, sorry. Anyways, I forgot my point there. But I do want to touch on this. So David Grush, for those that don't remember, David Grush came in front of Congress. he was a whistleblower that had high-level top-secret security clearances.

He had multiple people that came to him to talk to him about this non-human intelligence, alien biologics or non-human biologics. And one of the things David Grush says here says that the UFO cover-up was initiated by the same personnel and corporate elements that oversaw the Manhattan Project. So as we're talking about the Manhattan Project, this is what David Grush had to say in this short clip. Check this out, guys. there's certainly been private corporations involved, both federally funded research development centers and for-profit companies that have contracted with the U.S. government over the years.

Like I mentioned in other interviews, the U.S. government overlaid the Manhattan Project secrecy, personnel, you know, generally what elements were involved corporately and governmentally in that to Atomic Energy Commission, morphed into Department of Energy, Nuclear Regulatory Commission later. And that is why you see in what we call the Schumer Amendment in the United States that hopefully will be signed here very shortly.

And maybe it will be signed by the time the conference happens where they cite the Atomic Energy Act in 1954 in other provisions within the unclassified Schumer Amendment. That's because they understand that the secrecy justification ran along the lines of, you know, U.S. nuclear secrets. And that's a whole other discussion for now. And it's, and I'll mention that you'll notice in the Schumer Amendment, they talk about transclassified foreign nuclear information, TF, and I, in the Schumer Amendment.

And that is not by accident, because you can imagine what that means is, say the U.S. through intelligence operations stole a foreign nuclear secret, well, the U.S. liked that foreign nuclear secret and wanted to make it their own. So they transclassified it into a U.S. protected nuclear capability. And that's what the Schumer Amendment was trying to expals, if you read it between the lines, that they've justified it through, you know, these nuclear secrecy provisions. But, yeah, certainly private companies were involved. The specific ones I did provide to the congressional committees and the Inspector General

down to specific facilities I am aware of, down to the address, right, where they exist. And also I had the individuals that, you know, firsthand worked on the program provide that disclosure and interview with the Inspector General as well. So it wasn't just coming from me. So David Grush is here talking about the Schumann Amendment, right? And this is the Schumer amendment to where he's trying to get disclosure, right, on this UFO, UAP phenomenon. And you know what?

The biggest excuse from the intelligence community has been as far as why Congress, when you have this committee that is put in place where David Grush goes in front of the committee and he talks about, oh, yeah, we can talk about that in a private skiff, a skiff that is like only for classified personnel. And yet all the people that were a part of. or able to get into a skiff that were classified enough to be able to get in a meeting like this, did not learn a damn thing. They actually stopped people like Grush and others from going into skiffs and actually telling this committee anything. They stopped him from saying anything.

And you know, do you know what they're using as a business? Sorry, the biggest excuse, they are using Nuclear Secrets Act, which stemmed from the Manhattan Project. project. This is what they're still using today for the freaking UFO phenomenon and why they cannot tell Congress, which Congress should know everything. They should because this is the people that we elect us people to oversee our government and the people that are behind our shit. They are using the Nuclear Secrets Act to avoid UFO disclosure.

And let me tell you, I can't pull up this article right now because I can't pull it up fast enough and I'm blind, but they're using it because of the Manhattan Project because these companies were there during these times. I'm talking about General Electric, IBM, even Ford Motors. I'm talking about the Rockefellows. I'm talking about all the deep state people that we've talked about. All the JP Morgan. And I'm just, I'm doing this on the top of my hand because I'm trying to remember.

I don't have it right in front of me. But all these prominent companies were there during the Manhattan Project. And these are the companies that they're still today trying to protect. Oh, absolutely. That's why. It's these countries. They always will. And so Jesse Michaels, when he interviewed David Grush on YouTube, it says the Manhattan Project,

they were the kind of the first Blue Book or Project Blue Book. Listen to this clip. Here you go. It's very short. The Manhattan Project. Manhattan Project, they were kind of the first Blue Book. You know, they were getting UFO reports back in the day. There were some people I'm colleagues with that, like, their grandparents were actually, you know,

the UFO report people on the Manhattan Project. And I remember being told that, I'm like, really? Holy crap, that's crazy. You know, there's a whole other side of the Manhattan Project. This is a wild revelation. Blue Book was the Air Force's official program tasked with investigating UFOs in the 50s and 60s. But it was basically a propaganda mouthpiece for the Air Force, explaining away and downplaying the phenomena for the public.

Here, Dave is saying that there might have been a real, deeper program than Blue Book, studying UFOs at the time. And it was probably very tied in with the Manhattan Project. Legendary French UFO researcher Jacques Valet told me the exact same thing. Project Blue Book was the best I could do at the time because they felt they had a real project going on that was secret. The Manhattan Project would have custody of it. And then it would go into the Atomic Energy Commission. And then it would go into the Department of Energy, which has its own line of clearness.

There you go. So there's a clip. And by the way, what Jesse Michaels was saying here, and he did an amazing piece with David Grush. I mean, he did an amazing piece. I think Jesse Michaels, I think that's his name. I hope I'm freaking right in saying this on his interview and his YouTube channel with David Grush. I think he did one of the best interviews of David Grush you could possibly do. He got him candidly.

He got him probably opening up more than he's ever opened up on anything else. And the very interesting thing about this was as you hear him say here, Project Blue Book was basically the skies to make you think that they were investigating UFOs. And then they tried to downplay it based on the program. And I think even with ATIP and all these other programs

that's coming up from our government when they're, this big anticipation of a government, you know, UFO document drop. Everyone's anticipating it. And they're like, well, we don't see any technically signs of UFOs. Literally these programs are created to downplay

the existence of aliens or UFOs or other advanced craft. I still don't know 100% why they do that, but I still think, well, wait, a secrecy, but it's not just secrecy. It's not it's not what weapons we have gained from them. It's not that it's our advanced tech, in my opinion. I think it's about religion and spirituality. I really do. Well, I think it's about elites and who's going to control the world, is what I think.

I know, I know, but you're right. And it could tie back into like, hey, if you believe that these things potentially are connected spiritually or even demonically or whatever in in whatever spiritual realm that you think maybe these things come from. There's been speculation that, hey, the government does not want the people to know this because number one, it will it will make people really understand and realize how much power the government actually does not have over them. You know, I know Dr. Stephen Greer, for example, although many people have said that his

CE5 events where he goes out in the deserts in these places and they basically summon these craft, you know, Tim Burchett, Congressman Tim Burchett said, I think this is some kind of seance. It's almost like some kind of demonic ritual that there's some of those things. I think that if you're open to it and you believe in it and you see it, we've seen it many times in the skies, babe. Many times. Well, we have. No, we have. And honestly, when we saw these things physically with our own eyes and they were 100% not satellites, they were not aircraft, there was

zero question about that. We were very open to wanting to see them and kind of like connecting ourselves. We wanted to see them. We did. And we did. And we saw them. Is that some type of seance? I don't believe so.

But also, you know, you go back in biblical days where, you know, these people had to put their, their faith. You know, the biggest, one of the biggest words, I'm literally looking at it. It does. That's weird. I'm looking at it on the wall. And one of the biggest words in the Bible is faith. And faith, you know, how it talks about having faith. One of the biggest words in Christianity, one of the biggest words in religion is having faith.

And it's believing in something you can't see. Yeah. And the reality is like one of the most devout Christians or devout biblical preachers, if they really know and they really understand prayer, for example, they will typically tell you that if you do not have faith in a prayer, it's not going to come true. is not going to happen if you do not truly believe and put it out there in the universe is not going to happen. People can pray. People can say words in a shower as they pray or maybe by their bedside or whatever the case is.

But I think the real energy and the real thing comes from the belief, the true belief behind it. And I'm not saying that every time even when you do that. I know, I get it. You're right. Because there's a lot of people that pray and have faith and want to believe and it does, you know, God does not answer. the prayers like we want the prayers to be answered because it's God's way and God has a plan.

Maybe. You know, it's not because we don't have faith necessarily. It's because it's God's plan. Yeah, yeah. No, you're right. You're 100% right on that. I mean, I'm not saying that like every time that someone says something that or someone prays that, you know, as long as you have faith, that's going to come true.

I don't believe that. But I do believe there is a connection in believing and truly understanding and harnessing what your thoughts and beliefs and systems are. But also understand that there are. Definitely a lot of people out there that are, you know, they got cancer. They're going to die. They got like five million people that are really, really praying for them, hardcore. And they really truly believe that their prayer is going to work.

And they die. Yeah, exactly. So, you know, and I think this is going on in our personal relationships with people right now. Yeah, absolutely. You know, and that's what just kills me because it is God's plan. We can pray all we want to. But God is going to take, he's going to, his plan is his plan. You know, we can pray all we want to.

And I'm going to continue. you to pray for, you know, my great friend. But, you know, this is what the plan is. But that's why I was telling somebody the other day, guys, and I'm going to be candid for you a minute, and we're going to get a little more into the Manhattan Project in just a second. But, you know, one of the biggest things, I think if God came down right now and said, hey, if I could ask you if you want one thing, one thing,

I know this would be really hard to answer, but just based on my head, Like if God says if you want to know the 100% truth or on one thing, what would it be? I would say life after death. What happens? Because in my mind, though... I think that would be a great question to ask. Because I think the reality is that maybe he answers it and says that I've already told you. But the reality is there's been so many Bibles that have translated things and done all this shit.

And I think that, you know, I strayed away from Christianity and God and all the stuff and many years. and now that when you look at science and you also look at all these things that we're starting to understand and realize and conceptualize with reality versus indomentionality and science and all of these things. I do think there's life after death. And I know we're getting a little off topic, but guys, one day, you know, these are the things we have to try to come to a belief in ourselves or at least an understanding of what's going to happen.

I mean, some of you might be comfortable out there with saying that, you know, when we die, nothing happens. And if you're okay with that and you're comfortable with that, fine. Yeah, that's great. But I just don't think that's the case. I really truly don't. But I think also religion, and I'm sorry, I interrupted you, I'm so sorry, but I think religion has stole this fact to almost.

It's not a fact. Well, they've, theory. This theory for, you know, to scare you into believing in a certain religion. And if you don't believe in that religion or don't believe in exactly what it says, then you're not going to have life after death. And I just don't. In my mind, I don't conform to that because I feel like we have a universal God that God created us all. And he created us all equally.

And he loves all of us. It doesn't matter what religion you believe in. I think God is there for us to know he exists. And as long as we believe in God, he is going to protect us and take care of us. Yeah. And by the way, Siri is listening to you. I don't know why. It's literally listening everything you're saying.

But that's just my thing, you know, and I'm totally out there. I'm not a religious-based person. You know, you guys that believe in Jesus and Jesus is the everlasting life. That's great. You do that. You do you. You know, but, you know, I was watching Theo Vaughn the other day. He's like, well, why not believe in, you know, heaven after earth?

Why not believe in Jesus? Because what if it is right? And then you're wrong. You're screwed. Yeah. So what is it? Like, why should you not do it? What is it going to hurt you not to believe in Jesus?

I guess is what he was saying. And I thought that was a really good, like, question. No, it is. I mean, look, there's so many things. And, and you know what? I think when we look at life and reality, I mean, even just based on what's going on right now in our world, we can't even conceptualize. We can't even understand what the actual F is going on in reality that we live in. So imagine that how all these people supposedly know.

everything that happened exactly how supposedly it happened and who you're supposed to believe and how you're supposed to believe in it. And if you don't do this, you're not doing this. But yet now, we don't even realize what the hell is going on now. I mean, so, and yet we're trying to say that we know 100% what happened thousands of years ago. I mean, all I'm saying is, is that I do believe there's a God. I do believe there's a power power. And I do think that these UFOs slash whatever the hell we're seeing in the sky is tied to this. And I do also believe, by the way, that there is a lot of history and historical contextual text that talks about Jesus. And I truly do believe 100% he was a person.

I believe that that has been passed on through various religions. I guess the biggest argument is, is he the physical manifestation of God and so on and so forth? There's so many questions. We're not going to get into a religious conversation, even though we basically just did. But get this shit, right? So get this shit. See, this is why I'm not religious? I mean, I am religious.

Chad is very religious, and I have to say, being married to Chad, I know he is definitely a Christian. I know he believes in Jesus. And, you know, if that's the religion to believe in, and when he dies, he's definitely going to heaven. So that's what I believe. But that's if I'm right. Yeah. If I'm wrong, what if it says if you believe Jesus, you go to hell? Oh, my God.

I mean, you know, I think if, you know, if you believe in things like that, you're going to heaven. And even if Jesus does. But if Jesus doesn't exist, I think you being a good person on earth and trying to tell the truth and be out there and be a better person and trying to be a better person for other people, I think that's what God wants us to be. And hopefully, you know, God will let all of us in that are good people. Yeah. And look, Sherry's biggest point on this, and I got to agree with you 100% on this is like people that are in prison for murder and 12 people that all of a sudden. sudden now believe in Jesus and give them their life to Jesus and now they're saved. But yet someone that doesn't believe in Jesus that has been the best freaking person.

By the way, I knew one of those. He was my uncle. He died in a motorcycle accident. And I'll never forget the day that I found out he died in a motorcycle accident, all I was thinking about because he was atheist. He did not believe in God. He did not believe in any of that. And the number one thing I thought about was like, if that dude's going to hell, like,

that makes zero sense of a moment. He would give you the sheriff's back. Yeah. If you broke down your car, he would come save you. He would freaking literally fight for you. He would do everything for you. He did it for his wife. He did it for his kids.

He did it for his family. Everybody. And it's like, and yet you're going to say that if he didn't believe of Jesus, then he goes to hell. But if someone that was a murder of 12 people that now all of a sudden except Jesus goes to heaven, that makes zero sense to me. I know. And then you got to think outside the box. God. We're getting into religion.

Well, this is one more thing. And then we'll move on. If you think outside the box and you, it's not outside the box. It's really inside the box. Our bodies are a vessel for our soul. And you're saying that if your soul isn't Christian, it goes to hell. If your soul, you know, it's because we all know when we die, our bodies die, right? And we bury them or we cremate them or whatever.

But I believe our souls continue no matter what. I don't think. Yeah, it's like when an F-150 breaks down and it dies, it goes to F-250. Is that what happens? Is that how FD's 50s are granted? But I'm just saying our souls, everyone's soul goes somewhere. You know? And, you know, I don't know if I believe.

I don't know if I believe in heaven and hell. I don't know what I believe in. But I know that there is another place that we go. I don't know if we go into another life. I don't know if we go into another universe in a different dimension. I don't know because I don't have the answers. But I do know that our souls live on. Yeah.

What if when you die, though, based on who you are and based on what you try to accomplish in your life and your world, that is what actually makes up good and evil. Yeah, it could be. I don't know. The spiritual realm of good and evil. You either go to good or you go to evil. Because I think even all these religions, I think that they don't even dig deeper into, like, really what it is.

Because they believe in the word, and that's all they believe in, and that's what they talk about. And they're not going to think outside the book. And that's it. But I, you know, and I'm just saying, I think. think outside the book. I think about what's real. Like what's real to me. I feel like our bodies are a vessel again and our minds and our hearts are our soul. And I think our souls live on after our death. Yeah. You know, why would we have spirits and ghosts and, you know, all these other things if that was not the truth? Yeah. We're definitely not evangelist on this podcast. But you know what?

The reality is, guys, we're just telling you what we struggle with every day. I know we got way off topic. Let's get back into, but Sherry, you're right, though. You're right 100% on everything you're saying as far as your belief system. And the thing is, like, we've argued. And this is the last thing I'll say on this topic. But we've argued based on Jewish versus Christian and this and versus that. And actually, if you look at most wars around the world of people, it is based on religion.

Yeah. That's what the wars are based on pretty much. Yeah. Look at the wars, the history of wars. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot to talk about there. Holy shit. I can't even go into this because it's going to blow my mind up.

And I'm still sick as hell. Unfortunately, I got like the long COVID. I don't even know. I don't think I have COVID. Chris Como. No, I don't think I have COVID. But I got some weird shit going on. All right.

So there was a clip from Joe Rogan where he talks about if you think fake in the moon landing is all they did. Guess again, the Manhattan Project films really, the films was using T&T and special effects. When they actually supposedly filmed this atomic explosion, not real. Oh, they're saying that it was like BS? Yeah, it was BS. Check this shit out. Listen to this. Okay.

The U.S. military was basically faking these bomb tests to freak out the Russians. How did they fake it? They just did. Yeah. This is it? Well, so there's a, yeah. Okay, so here's a question, right?

So what happened? Okay. So this is great. Okay, you love this. So what happened to the camera? You son of a bitch. You son of a bitch. How is that happening yet the camera is like totally stable and fine?

Oh, my God. And by the way, and the film is fine. Okay. And I want to point out this. So they're literally showing, and I'm going to mute Bluetooth. I'm going to show Sherry actually what we're talking about. Well, I know what you're talking about because they could not even look at that because it would blind you. So he's talking about blinding the camera, I guess.

Yes. But so during this point, you see this? This was supposed the city when the explosion happened during one of the, the test, right? And yet, it completely destroys this makeshift town they created, right? But if it was that much power and that must veracity to literally destroy an entire structure, multiple structures, what the hell? How did they get this on camera? Well, I mean, like from right there. Yeah, I know. And two, my point is, like, they could not even put their eyes towards this bomb. No. If they did, it would blind them. So how is a camera?

not going to be blind to the same way. It's just like the same thing. When you put your iPhone up to the, to the sun when it says solar eclipse, it'll damage the lens. Yeah, absolutely. So that does make sense.

Yeah, it does. Let's listen. It's only like 20. I'm going to reverse just a little bit, just to make sure we hear the rest of it. It's not very long clip, but here you go. How is that happening yet the camera's like totally stable and fine?

Oh, my God. And by the way, in the film is fine. Oh, my God. This looks like. how you should. By the way, okay, we'll do this one.

We'll do the loop one more time here. Oh, okay. So wait a minute. It wasn't there. No car. No car. The second is it really look like a car.

Does that look like a real car? That's insane. What? Right. So like the fucking car. So there you go. So in one instance of this video, it shows no car as this building is starting to completely disintegrate.

And then in the second shot, it shows a car all of a sudden randomly appear. So it was obviously editing and it was some kind of weird. So it was obviously editing. and it was some kind of weird shit. Okay, so what happened to Japan then? Well, it happened, I guess. But the reality is like how they filmed their nuclear test.

They were basically trying to... Say it didn't exist and they just tested it on Japan? No. No, no, no. But they were trying to basically be the big balls in the world and saying, this is the power we have. Yeah, now listen, and that might be a good tactic. If you're trying to avoid Hiroshima or Nagasaki, but...

But they didn't avoid it. They did it. No, they did it anyway. They did not give a damn about that. And that's the reality of that. So what does it matter if they faked it because we really did it on Japan? Yeah, that's true. And it worked.

And it was not a lie. It was not like a fake moon landing because it really happened. They really killed hundreds of thousands of people in Japan. No, they 100% did. It's just like, what was? the original reason they created that video and why'd they do that and and there's a lot of questions around. Yeah, I get that. Now, riveting concept, what if Manhattan Project led by Robert Oppenheimer was a cover for early UFO programs? Imagine atomic research making the recovery and study of extraterrestrial

technology potentially unlock and undisclosed cosmic breakthroughs, right? Like, what if that was the case? Here's an interview. It's an interview clip I want you guys to hear of Oppenheimer, but check this up. Robert Oppenheimer, realize the grave responsibilities of our new knowledge. Science has profoundly altered the conditions of man's life, both materially and in ways of the spirit as well. It has extended the range of questions in which man has a choice. It has extended man's freedom to make significant decisions. No one can predict what vast new continents of knowledge, the future of science will discover. But we know that as long as

men are free to ask what they will, free to say what they think, free to think what they must, science will never regress. And freedom itself will never be wholly lost. Very good. That was Robert Oppenheimer. There's so much around this Manhattan Project, guys. And, you know, what is the reality of this? Was the Manhattan Project, a, cover for advanced alien technology, you know, through some type of new classification method or at the very least, the initial classification method or, or, I guess, process for how they now classify a UFO and UAP projects or reverse engineering projects. I think that if, you know, I always see all this UFO Twitter shit and everybody's just

debating dumb shit. And I hate to say it, guys, I hate to say it. out there listening. People are debating a lot of dumb shit. The reality is you guys got to look into a Manhattan Project. If you want to dive really, really deep and you want to figure out what is actually

going on with all of this UFO, UAP phenomenon, the secrecy, the government cover-ups, the disclosure, you have to look at the Manhattan Project. And not only the disclosure of UAPs, but we're talking

about the formation of the CIA, the formation of the deep state, the formation of new world government, the formation of hiding Nazi Germany in America. There's so many things that were going on during this time that was like, holy cow, I would have never knew this unless I dug deep. And this stuff is real. Like, I can prove it right now. You can even go up, go look up Operation Sunshine, for example.

Go look up, I think his name is Robert Kirby. I think this guy. He is like an activist for an environment. And he is attributing the Kim Trails that we see today based on the new Manhattan Project. Yeah, the new Manhattan Project. Yeah, which it was parallel to the Manhattan Project. Yes. The last thing I'll say is it looks like Robert Oppenheimer was not only involved in studying the 1948 Aztec

New Mexico crashed UFO, but was also involved with another 1947 crash saucer, the one near Alar Alamogordo Field, aka Holloman Air Force Base. And chances are, Ipanama was probably also involved in studying the 1947 Roswell crash. It makes sense that he would have been involved in this and probably many others. Now, there was multiple books published about this. there was a couple little lines in these books. It says, you know, where a few aeronautical engineers flown in to Holloman Alammergadar Field.

I think General Groves was flown in with Oppenheimer, Bush, and Von Newman, von Kerman. I think their names were mentioned in the report when they flew into some of these crash sites. So you're talking about Oppenheimer here. Oppenheimer 100% has a direct connection to UFO and advanced alien tech potentially. And I think that if you want to know

maybe what's really going on with the world today, we got to think about Oppenheimer and the Manhattan Project. If you don't think about that, then you're crazy. I think anyway. We're going to end that here, guys.

We do have a lot more to talk about, but we're going to stop it there. Guys, we're going to end it with Nuclear by Michael Field. Sure, you got a lot more conspiracy than this. Oh my gosh. I have notes and pages and pages of things I've been researching. And like I said, I've gone through so many rabbit holes. And there's so much to talk about.

But it makes me open my eyes to like, what is going on now? I'm talking about Illuminati, new world government, everything. It all stems from this project. I'm telling you the truth. And by the way, guys, a little deep dive. If you're still here, go follow us on chat and sherry unplugged on YouTube. Yes, we. It is our aviation channel, old aviation channel.

We will be launching our YouTube channel this week. We got an amazing episode coming up. If you want to see us in video, we're going to be doing video. We're going to have something really good for you guys. Go follow us, Chad and Sherry and Plugged. Until next time, guys, peace out. We love you. Peace out, guys.

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