Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Martin Luther King Jr Assassination Conspiracy Podcast

Episode Date: November 10, 2021

Who really killed Martin Luther King Jr in 1968? Was James Earl Ray really the shooter or was the murder a big government conspiracy, once again. All of that and more on this Martin Luther King Jr Ass...assination Conspiracy Podcast

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:05 Direct from our newsroom in Washington, in color. This is the CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite and Russ Hodge in Memphis, Tennessee, Dan Rather in New York, Bernard Calvin, Ceylon, Marvin Calbin, Wellington, New Zealand, and Bert Quint in Kaysan, South Vietnam. Good evening. Dr. Martin Luther King,
Starting point is 00:00:30 the apostle of nonviolence in the Civil Rights Movement, has been shot to death in Memphis, Tennessee. Police have issued an all-points bulletin for a well-dressed young white man seen running from the scene. Officers also reportedly chased and fired on a radio-equipped car containing two white men. Dr. King was standing on the balcony of a second-floor hotel room tonight when, according to a companion, a shot was fired from across the street. In the friend's words, the bullet exploded in his face. Police, who have been keeping a close watch over the Nobel Peace Prize winner
Starting point is 00:01:03 because of Memphis' turbulent racial situation were on the scene almost immediately. They rushed the 39-year-old Negro leader to a hospital where he died of a bullet wound in the neck. Police said they found a high-powered hunting rifle about a block from the hotel, but it was not immediately identified as the murder weapon. Mayor Henry Loeb has reinstated the dusk to dawn curfew
Starting point is 00:01:25 he imposed on the city last week when a march led by Dr. King erupted in violence. Governor Buford Ellington has called out 4,000. National Guardsmen. And police report that the murder has touched off sporadic acts of violence in a Negro section of the city. In a nationwide television address, President Johnson expressed the nation's shock. America is shocked and saddened by the brutal slaying tonight of Dr. Martin Luther King. I ask every citizen to reject the blind violence that has struck Dr. King by non-violet.
Starting point is 00:02:06 violence. Dr. King had returned to Memphis only yesterday, determined to prove that he could lead a peaceful mass march in support of striking sanitation workers, most of whom are Negroes. Dr. King had this to say last night about the situation in Memphis. Maybe I could understand the denial of certain basic First Amendment privileges because they haven't committed themselves to that over there. But somewhere I read of the freedom of assembly, somewhere I read, of the freedom of speech, somewhere
Starting point is 00:02:44 I read, of the freedom of press, somewhere I read, that the greatness of America is the right to protest for right. There was shock in Harlem tonight when word of Dr. King's murder reached the nation's largest
Starting point is 00:03:02 Negro community. Men, women, and children poured into the streets. They appeared dazed. Many were crime. The young Negro said, Dr. King didn't really have to go back to Memphis. Maybe he wanted to prove something. It's been tough, feeling sad. It's been hard in America.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Ever thought it'd get so bad? Wish that I had a big jet plane. Fly the tears away. Maybe I'd find a river so white. Welcome back to Investigate Earth Podcast. I'm your host, Chad. alongside my wife Sherry Hope everyone is having a fantastic
Starting point is 00:05:30 Tuesday. It is Tuesday. November 9th, 2021. We've got a very interesting podcast to bring to you guys tonight and we said that we were going to do this one on the JFK podcast that we did a couple nights ago, I guess now. And this one really has a lot to do
Starting point is 00:05:49 and a lot of ties and just a lot of things that are kind of probably blow your mind just based on what you guys have always been either taught or no. I'm not saying you guys, because a lot of you guys are very, very, very, very smart. We have interacted with a lot of y'all
Starting point is 00:06:03 over the past couple weeks, especially since I've been getting... Well, not a lot of you guys, like all of us in schools, have been taught. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. But I'm just saying, the people that listen to us, though, is they're typically the smarter
Starting point is 00:06:16 than the average bear. And that's what I'm saying. When we've been talking with a lot of you over the past couple weeks, you know, so many things that you guys are sending us, on social media on our Facebook anyway. We don't get to a lot of the emails.
Starting point is 00:06:30 We do apologize. So, guys, if you're sending us emails, the easiest way to reach us is Facebook. We've said this before. Facebook's just a lot easier way to do communication for right now anyway. So, but this one has a lot to do with just the corruption of just everything. This song that you guys are playing in the background now that we had after the intro is Hard in America is the name of the song. And, you know, where every word divides, where every speech divides, where everything you think, say, Phil, it divides. And so on a lot of podcasts, we talk
Starting point is 00:07:07 about why is that? You know, why is everything so divisive? And it's not that our country hasn't been divisive in the past, because obviously it has. And we're going to talk about that here. We've talked about that on other podcasts and other time periods in the United States. And, you know, This is not just in the United States. I think corruption is everywhere. And some of you that have no idea about any of this Martin Luther King stuff, when we're talking about corruption right now, you probably guess where we're going with this. But, you know, just stay tuned because it's just another mind-blowing thing. It really is.
Starting point is 00:07:45 And as we said, you know, this is something that we've been taught. You know, Martin Luther King and what he stood for and what he did and for the black community, just the black community i think is what he was doing for the community a whole the united states um for people of all colors uh i think that he um he really is a true leader and he's one of the true leaders that uh you know lives on and the thing is it's like with everything this happened over the past um i mean especially during all this protest stuff and and the black lives matter things and and all of this craziness you know one thing that i wish any of these leaders now days so-called so-called leaders because these a lot of these people nowadays are leading people
Starting point is 00:08:29 off a cliff and I wish they could just take something from Dr. King. I wish they could have you know taken his resolve, his peacefulness, his, um, his true heart of why he wanted what he wanted or why he wanted to accomplish. It wasn't, yes, it was to better the black community and to give them rights. But it was also just he, um, he had a message for everyone. and it wasn't just blacks, but it was just a peaceful message for all people to come together. Yeah, for all people to be one people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:02 So we're going to get into that. It's going to be a really, really good podcast episode, I believe, guys. So stick with us on this one because it's going to probably blow your mind. It blew my mind. Once we kind of started researching this, I had heard about some things, you know, over the course of time. And, you know, never truly really researched this until, I guess, more recent. and it's just it reminds me of a lot of stuff that's happened in the past and it reminds me a lot of stuff what's going on today.
Starting point is 00:09:32 I will say that. But before we get into that, guys, I do want to say we have our social media running. So the social media we've been talking about that is going to give freedom of speech for all. We have it running and it's working, which is amazing. And it works really good. To me, I think it is better and smoother and everything else than Facebook or Instagram. or any of the rest of them. I think once we release this to you guys,
Starting point is 00:09:57 we're just working out bugs right now. That's all we're doing. I mean, it really truly is, I believe, something that's going to, I don't know. I mean, it's going to help all of us. All of you listen to us, you know, you're going to have somewhere to go
Starting point is 00:10:08 to freely speak. As long as it's legal, you can say it. And, you know, I want people to be able to voice their opinions and their thoughts and beliefs. And, you know, like I said, the best way to silence bad speech is with better speech. And it's not by silence in a certain side. It's by, you know, better speech.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Better speech beats bad speech or inaccurate speech or misinformation or whatever the case is. So that's coming. The membership platform's coming. It's all going to be kind of put together in one place. And I think you guys will like it. So be on the lookout for that. May release that this week. That's what we're hoping.
Starting point is 00:10:52 And I have to say, I'm pretty. impressed because Chad's been working really hard on this for a long time and I'm just going to be honest. I didn't know if he really could do that. And I came home like I think yesterday or a day before he's like, check it out, Sherry. It's finally, I'm finally at the point where I can show you stuff and I was like, okay, let me see it. And I didn't feel very good or whatever. But anyways, I got on that thing. I was like, holy cow, like I was pretty impressed. Like how in the world did you do that? It looks really good. So yeah, I'm pretty impressed with him and I don't give him credit a lot of times. I should give him more credit when I don't. So I have to give him credit. He really did
Starting point is 00:11:34 an outstanding job with this. And, you know, again, you know, like you're saying, there are some bugs. But overall, this thing is way better than the Rumble thing. Well, our parlor. Yeah, I believe. I mean, I believe if you just, if you base, if any of you have been on parlor, it blows away. Parlor, in my opinion. I mean, parlor was very laggy and clanky and just weird. This doesn't lag. It has a couple of issues right now that I'm going to work out. Really, it's not even issues that we couldn't release it.
Starting point is 00:12:04 But we're just making sure servers, everything is going to be able to handle everything that you guys throw at it. So that's what we're doing. It does cost money, obviously, a lot of money to run something like. this and it's going to cost money in the future. So that's another reason we're really going to launch this membership platform so that people can support us, especially since we're going to be, you know, we're spending out so much money for this and so much and we're going to be in the future, you know, so it's like, you know, we've got to have some way to kind of monitor.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Because, and that's the thing. With this platform, we're never, ever going to sell your data. We're not going to hold your data. We're not going to keep your data. There will never be advertisers that are able to come to us and say, Hey, can we use your data to advertise to your people? It's never going to happen. The only way that we're going to do this is either A, we'll have a membership platform for us.
Starting point is 00:12:58 And if that works for us to be able to support us or support the site anyway enough to where we don't ever have to monetize the site, then we'll do that. But at some point, we have to monetize the social media site to where it's a membership only type site. We may do that as well. And that may also keep out a lot of unwanted people. Exactly. That's just there to cause trouble. That's just there to... Well, it's kind of like dating sites.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Do you want to go on a free dating site or do you want to pay for one? Yeah. When you're trying to find that Mr. or Mrs. Wright. Well, we were on a free one. I know, but most people aren't. So be quiet, Chad. That's what's wrong with us, see? That's what's wrong.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Yeah. Anyways, let's move on for that one. While I have a sip of wine, guys. Sorry, but... We drink red wine, by the way. I don't know if any of you guys drink wine. I mean, we drink whatever, but beer sometimes, red wine sometimes. Every once in a while, shots, but not very often anymore.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Those days are, or hopefully, at least just shot, shot, shot, shot, shot. So every once a while, though... I've never been a shot, shot, shot person. Maybe you have, I've not. I used to, but not anymore. Not me. Okay, so guys, Martin Luther King, his... Basically, his assassination, it completely rocked the community of especially African Americans, but the entire country.
Starting point is 00:14:22 He was best known for his civil rights movement. He worked very hard, extremely hard, and very smart to try to get those social changes for African Americans. And since he was also a Baptist minister, he was known for being a great public speaker and for encouraging people to attend peaceful campaigns, rather than using violence to achieve their rights. He established the Southern Christian Leadership Conference to SLLC in 1957. And in 1963, he then led a large crowd of people on a protest march to Lincoln Memorial in Washington, D.C. A lot of people don't realize, but he also won the Nobel Peace Prize four years later in 1968. So, unfortunately, right around this time, he was shot and killed in Memphis, Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:15:14 and what everyone said was from James Earl Ray. Now, this person, you know, was somebody that everyone, and even now, if you look it up on Alexa, Google, or everywhere else, you look at Martin Luther King's assassination, it'll say it was killed by James Earl Ray. Yeah. No questions, period. And there's no questions, and there's no other anything's about it. You can look it up on Alexa, like he said. You can look it on Google.
Starting point is 00:15:41 You can look in Wikipedia. it says he was assassinated by James Earl Ray. Exactly. Now, the person who continued Martin Luther King's work, even after his death, was Coretta King, which is his wife. And obviously, we celebrate Martin Luther King every year on January 15th, and that is his birthday. So, unfortunately, there's been a lot of people that have also used Martin Luther King in ways that he completely was against. You know, I, you know, the Black Lives Matter thing and stuff like this. And, you know, there were so many references to Martin Luther King during that time from a lot of the people in the Black Lives Matter movement that would reference him almost saying that he would be appalled with what's going on today.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Almost as if saying that appalled at what they were protesting or, you know, doing whatever to. But the reality is that he would have been appalled at the way those groups handled the situation because he was obviously known for peaceful protests. Yeah, he was known for non-violence. He would have never said, okay, we're going to go protest and burn buildings down and go steal everything. He would be, like, appalled about that. Yeah, and Dr. King, if you listen to our intro and his speech that, you know, after his death announcement, they played that speech the night before he died. And, you know, one of the three things, he said, freedom of speech, freedom to assemble. You know, these are things that we need.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Right. Unity. Not just blacks, but blacks and whites. But unity for all. Yeah, unity for all he was very big on. Now, Walter Cronkite, which is the guy that broke the news, which is, you know, also broke the news of JFK's murder. And by the way, these murders are only five years apart. He mentioned in his reports that the police cited a white, well-dressed male fleeing the scene.
Starting point is 00:17:34 However, when the supposed accused James R. Ray was caught, he actually turned out. to be a fugitive serving a sentence of 20 years in Missouri State Penitentiary. This discrepancy germinated the seat of doubt amidst the people from the very beginning.
Starting point is 00:17:51 So when the FBI actually began their investigation, it revealed, and when their actual investigation came to light, it actually revealed that a well-hatched, intricate plan of kind of what happened.
Starting point is 00:18:05 The boarding house room across from the King's Hotel on Earth the Kit, for Martin Luther King's assassination. It was a rifle, binoculars, and newspaper clippins were discovered along with Ray's fingerprints and aliases. That's when Ray was arrested at Heathrow Airport and on his destination of fleeing to Rhodesia, as they say. Where is that? I don't even know where that is.
Starting point is 00:18:26 I know. It arose from the capability of petty convicts hatched a lot. They basically were trying to say that he was hatching this elaborate plan. He was solely doing it on his own. And it was all. Yeah, it was just James Earl Ray. He had planned this incrit. Intricate.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Yeah, thank you for that work. He had planned this whole thing on his own and they caught him. Now, if you listen to like, you know, the Borden House room, for example, from the King Hotel or from where Martin Luther King was staying. You know, when you put a rifle, binoculars, newspaper clippins of his visit to this local, to this, this area. And DNA is DNA. It literally sounds like a setup. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:12 From the very beginning. Yeah. I mean, who's going to do that? If you're going to assassinate a public figure like that, you're just going to leave all your stuff in the room like that? I mean, does that even make sense to you or anyone? That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:19:25 That's not even what I was thinking of. But yeah, no. I'm just saying it's a total setup. Yeah. I mean, and the one big thing here is the newspaper clipping. And it's almost like they wanted to make sure. that like people knew that he was going after him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:41 He was planning this whole elaborate plan. Exactly. And we're getting to something, guys. I promise you, because you just have to get a stay with us. So the court drama, the whole legal deal with this whole thing was another crazy turn. It basically took its highest flight when Ray was quick to admit his crime and he demanded a plea deal. And so then a rapid retraction in that very admittance, which solidified the seat of doubt. But his initial sentence of 99 years without a full-on criminal trial remained valid until his death as his next demand for the trial was denied.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Yeah, they never even had a full trial. He never had a trial. And then when he asked for a trial, they refused to give him a trial. Yeah. And it was because he had like a hearing, basically. So the best way we can put this is James R. had a hearing. He did have a trial, but not a trial. It was a... Yeah, because like he pretty much
Starting point is 00:20:41 admitted, I did this. Because they threatened him with death row. Exactly. Yeah. So he said, I did this and then like two weeks later, he retracted it and said, I didn't do this. And then... He said there's no way I did this, but they're threatening me with the death penalty. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:20:57 And I demand a trial. And he never got one. You're not getting a trial. You're going to jail. Yeah. So he never... Just imagine that guy. And why would they not want to give somebody a trial. Yeah. Well, because evidence.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Because number one, you've got to prove something. And number two, it just, it's too much shit that you have to worry about. I mean, there's too many things. If you've got a jury and then you've got a judge and you got prosecution and you got all this stuff that comes in and defense, you know, you're going to have a hard time proving, especially if he had nothing to do with it. Now, and two, you have to worry about coverups. Like, how are you going to cover up your cover up if he has to go on trial?
Starting point is 00:21:36 Exactly. You know, that's why they didn't let him go on trial because they didn't want the public to know the truth. Yeah. Now, yeah, and the fingerprint thing, you know, they found his fingerprints and aliases. Yeah, but he did. I think he really did touch the weapon.
Starting point is 00:21:50 And he did have fingerprints on the weapon, but he is not the one that assassinated Jeff K. Jr. No. I don't believe so either. And we're going to get into that. But, you know, and the thing is, it's like, people always say, you know, especially now you've got to think about this
Starting point is 00:22:07 but even back then it was easier to frame someone than it is now now they just use a bunch of random I mean well back then they didn't have what they have now they don't have CSI like stuff I mean to be honest with you like the fact
Starting point is 00:22:23 that you could even get fingerprints back then is I know I can't even believe they got fingerprints I wouldn't even assume they could do that back then but the reality is is like what would pass as his fingerprints back then and who you know, who was it that determined for sure it was his fingerprints? Because it never went to trial.
Starting point is 00:22:40 But he admits that he touched the weapon. Okay. Well. So, yeah, I'm sure his fingerprints were on there, but there were other fingerprints as well. I'm sure. And the only fingerprints, I guess, came back were his. But that's a lot of bullshit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:56 So there was a big thing about Martin Luther King's death. And it was called the Rawls case. It's R-A-U-L-S. And so Raul Raul's case Raul or whatever his name is. So James Earl Ray
Starting point is 00:23:10 when he attracted a statement that he did not do this and he said this on the basis of the invisible man as they call it which is Raoul
Starting point is 00:23:18 Yeah R-A-U You pronounce it R-A-O-U-L According to Ray he was under the directive of Raul who instructed him
Starting point is 00:23:28 to buy a rifle and wait for him in the motel room Upon his arrival Ray was told to leave for a three-hour movie, and the shooting took place in this three-hour window. However, investigations showed no man of such description or named to exist,
Starting point is 00:23:43 even though at least one witness was willing to testify otherwise. Oh, I have so much of evidence. Yeah, so there was a witness that wanted to testify. Now, do you have information on the witness, Sherry, now? Well, no, I'm just saying about Raoul. Oh, I got you. This is, like, later in the sequence. I don't know if we even want to bring that up right now because I kind of, I would rather us kind of go through like what really happened first and then talk about how we know Raoul's place in this whole thing.
Starting point is 00:24:14 So we'll just kind of go over the basis and then we'll really get into the need to get. So the House of Representatives Select Committee on Assassinations theorized in 1979 that Ray committed the act by taking the bait of a $50,000 bribe. This bounty offered by their supporters of the segregationist party leave. leader, George Wallace, led to Martin Luther King Jr.'s assassination. Martin Luther King's death may have been a matter of contention until today. However, his ideologies continue to empower the black population
Starting point is 00:24:42 of Americans in their quest for identity. So basically James Earl Ray was offered a $50,000 bounty to kill Martin Luther King by George Wallace. Meanwhile,
Starting point is 00:24:59 if I'm not mistaken, And George Wallace at the time was a governor of Alabama. And he is the one that offered this $50,000. And he took the bait, but he didn't actually kill him. So I don't know how, what's next in your list? Say whatever you want to say. Well, I'm just saying that that's not really what happened. So James Earl Ray did have a part in this.
Starting point is 00:25:23 He was told to the day before JFK was assassinated. James Earl Ray was told to meet Raoul at the gym's diner or the restaurant to meet this guy with the gun. So he was to take the gun and put it in a certain spot and then leave for the three-hour movie. Right? Yeah. And this is also that I know for fact is true because Lloyd Jowers also says the same thing. And he was involved with this assassination case. And this goes really deep.
Starting point is 00:26:02 It doesn't go with just James Earl Ray and Raoul and George Wallish and Lloyd Joyers. It goes as far deep as mafia in government and FBI and CIA. Everything's involved. Yeah, so let's talk about that for a minute because here's the kind of, we'll just go ahead and kind of give a bombshell and then we'll talk about all this. Okay. Because it is. Yeah, I don't really know how we're going about like the bombshell. Well, look, here's the thing. I don't know if any of you actually knew,
Starting point is 00:26:33 but the U.S. government was actually found guilty in conspiracy to assassinate Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. And so we're going to go, this is the butter of this. Though the United States government has wrapped Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s legacy in an American flag, they basically wanted to symbolize his racial harmony and patriotic solidarity. and, you know, the whole time, they were very much probably had almost everything to do with his murder. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:27:09 The government. Yes. So very little was spoken or has ever been spoken of the fact that a Memphis jury found the United States government guilty of conspiring to assassinate Dr. King on the balcony of Lorraine Motel in 1968. But this jury happened in like 1998, guys. Yeah, 99. 98, 99. Like, this just happened. And it's because of the King family, they went after them and said, you know, I guess it was a civil, you know, civil suit where they were suing them or whatever.
Starting point is 00:27:43 But they were saying it was not for the money. They just want it for to know what happened. It's like the JFK family. Yeah, exactly. They just wanted to know what actually happened to their loved one. Tell the truth, people. Yeah, so after four weeks of testimony and over 70 witnesses, and like Sherry said, it was a civil trial in Memphis, Tennessee, 12 jurors reached a swift unanimous verdict on December 8th in 1999 that Dr. King was assassinated as a result of a conspiracy that New York Times reported at the time. The King family get this shit who filed the civil lawsuit was awarded $100.
Starting point is 00:28:19 $100. They donated the miniscule amount to charity. So Lloyd Jowers, you've talked about Lloyd Jowers. So he's, so he was the restaurant owner of Jim's Grill. He was the dude, I got right here, he was the dude. Okay, so he was offered $100,000 to kind of get into this thing. And he was offered the $100,000 by this mafia dude and the government. The mafia dude, his name was Frank LaBerto, Frank LaBerto.
Starting point is 00:28:49 So he was in the mafia, but he was also a produce dealer that was like his side. thing. Side hustle. Yeah, he would do like produce for restaurants and stuff. So Lloyd, he was a restaurant owner and that's how that he knew Frank Laverto. So like he offered him 100,000. He put it in the restaurant and said, hey, this is what we're doing. This is what you have to do.
Starting point is 00:29:11 So he was given 100,000 by mafia and government. And this is what he had to do. Yeah, just all Lloyd had to do. He was given the rifle box by Raoul. and I forgot where Raul is from, like Persia, I can't remember, like a foreign country or something. I can't remember because he speaks a different language than, you know, American. He's not from this country. And nobody knew who Raul was.
Starting point is 00:29:37 They just know him by his first name. But all Lloyd had to do was he was given the day before the assassination, he was given the rifle box by the name of Raoul. Well, and keep in mind, Lloyd Jowers, he claimed that the shot which killed Dr. King, was fired from behind his restaurant. Yes. And that local state and federal U.S. government agencies and the mafia were all involved. This is what he said. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:02 James R. Ray obviously pleaded guilty to assassinating King because he was, you know, rented the room. But the restaurant owner also named Memphis Police Department officer Earl Clark as Dr. King's assassin. Yes. And according to a press conference transcript, a claim that would later be called into question along with other shocking details. So listen, like outside of his restaurant was a... a bunch of bushes and stuff. And so this is where he claimed that this is where he was shot from and it was directly across the street from the Marion Hotel. And so he was given the rifle box and then the guy, what you just said, the Mr. Clark, he was actually a police officer that was
Starting point is 00:30:42 the best sharpshooter in the department was the actual one that he says was the one that pulled the trigger. He was a sharpshooter. And if you think about it, it's across the street. James Ray. I don't know if he even had a weapon. I don't know. But it makes more sense that a sharp shooter shot him. And this is what's crazy to me that makes me really believe this is true is after right after the shot was happened. Somebody, I can't remember now, but somebody was given the gun right after it happened. It was a smoky gun. Oh, it was jowls. He had to take it apart, put, and he wrapped it in a tablecloth. and the next day somebody came and picked it up but the next day this is what's freaky where the bushes were in the back of his diner somebody was called to cut out all those bushes it like very like a very slow process to get rid of any evidence and they were called by the police to do that to kill to cut all those bushes down the day after sounds about right i mean it's just like in the cow riddinghouse trial uh there was a detective on the stand yesterday and uh And the defense said, hey, did you not get the guy, which is the one guy that had the gun for Kyle Reddinghouse that was pointing the gun at Kyle Reddinghouse on the ground.
Starting point is 00:32:04 That's when Kyle shot the guy in the arm. But they were trying to get, they had a search warrant for this guy's cell phone. And the prosecution told the detectives not to execute the search warrant. And the reason, and so, you know, the defense asked the detective, we said, have you guys ever been asked by a cell phone? prosecution and not, you know, execute a search warrant. He's like, no, never. It's just, it's situations like this to where everything, I mean, literally, a lot of people don't understand, but the Kyle Rittenhouse right now and just that whole trial and
Starting point is 00:32:36 even just that statement where the defense asked the detective. Right. And he said the prosecution attorneys came to them and said, do not execute that search warrant on the cell phone because obviously there was something to be hidden in that cell phone. Exactly. This is the type of shit that we have today. and we had then. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:32:54 And see, even back then, with the King assassination, the U.S. Department of Justice, they painstakingly attempted to completely dismantle Jowers' claims. And the mountain of evidence presented in the Memphis trial. And Jowers insisted that a Memphis produce dealer who was involved with the mafia gave Jowers. That was Frank. $100,000 to hire an assassin and assured him that the police would not be at the scene of the shooting. Jowers also reported that he hired a hitman to shoot Dr. King from behind Jim's grill and received the murder weapon prior to the killing from someone with the name sounding like Raoul. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Like you were talking about. And he further, you know, Jowers further maintained Ray did not shoot Dr. King and that he did not believe Ray knowingly participated in the conspiracy. He was just like the setup guy. Yeah. And listen, Jowals, he was 73 years old when he finally came out and told him. And by the way, Jowers is the owner of Jim's Grill. Yeah. Yeah, he was, okay.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Yeah, he was the owner of the restaurant. But he finally, when he was 73 years old, came out with this, even though his attorney said, do not do this. Do not come out with this, evidence, don't tell anything. So against his attorney's advice, he wanted to get it off his chest because he was ill and sick, and, you know, he wanted to make it right with God. So he told the truth, in my opinion, of what exactly happened, is that, um, Frank gave him the money, the mafia guy, and gave him the gun. Raul gave him the gun. And then, you know, he was like the middleman, but he swears.
Starting point is 00:34:29 He didn't know that Martin Luther King Jr. was the target. This sounds really confusing. I think it's going to sound really confusing. Why? I don't know, because there's names everywhere and everything. I mean... Okay, so basically the guy that owns the restaurant... Lloyd Jowers is the owner of Jim's Grill.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Yeah. Okay. He was given $100,000 by Frank the Mafia guy. Okay, but listen. let's just let's make this clear because we have to make this clear because it's not Lloyd Joward no owner of Jim's Grill okay yeah he which was close to the Lorraine motel across the street claim that the shot which killed Dr. King was fired from behind his restaurant yeah the back door and that the local state and federal Europe governance agencies and mafia
Starting point is 00:35:09 were all involved James Earl Ray had nothing to do with it the restaurant owner which is Jowers named a Memphis Police Department officer lieutenant Earl Clark as Dr. King's assassin. And then after he named that, the Department of Justice tried everything they could to dismantle the restaurant owner, Jowers, claims, and the mountain of evidence presented in the Memphis trial. And so basically, the mafia gave Jowers $100,000 to hire an assassin and assured him that the police would not be at the scene in his shooting. Jowers also reported that he hired a hitman to shoot Dr. King from behind Jim's Grill and received the burner weapon prior to killing from someone. one with a name sounding like Raoul. Jowers further maintained that James R. Ray did not shoot King and that he did not believe
Starting point is 00:35:55 Ray knowingly participate in a conspiracy whatsoever. So I just want to make sure the names are... Yeah, and during the meeting, when they were talking about this, the meeting with Jowal, he was meeting with two police officers. Yeah, two police officers and two federal agents, and it was Jowers. Jowers and the two officers and two FBI agents when they're going through what was going to go on. Yeah. But the dude that actually killed JFK was a police officer, a Memphis police officer.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Yeah. Clark. That's what he says. Yeah. So King's widow, which is Coretta Scott King, she expressed her gratitude to the jury and called on media to get the truth to the public. So this is her statement. And I want to read this because it sounds a lot like what a lot of JFK shit's going on. There is an abundant evidence of a major high-level conspiracy in the assassination of my husband, Martin Luther King, Jr.
Starting point is 00:36:46 and the civil court's unanimous verdict has validated our belief. I wholeheartedly applaud the verdict of the jury and I feel that justice has been well served in their deliberations. This verdict is not only a great victory for my family but also a great victory for America. It is a great victory for truth itself. It is important to know that this was a swift verdict delivered after about an hour of jury deliberation. The jury was clearly convinced by the extensive evidence that was presented during the trial that in addition to Mr. Jowers, the conspiracy of the mafia, local state and federal government agencies were deeply involved in the assassination of my husband. The jury also affirmed overwhelming
Starting point is 00:37:27 evidence that identified someone else, not James Earl Ray, as the shooter, and that Mr. Ray was set up to take the blame. I want to make it clear that my family has no interest in retribution. Instead, our sole concern has been that the full truth of the assassination has been revealed and adjudicated in a court of law. As we proceed, pursued this case, some wondered why we would spend the time and energy addressed in such a painful part of our past. For both our family and the nation, the short answer is that we had to get involved because the system did not work. Those who were responsible for the assassination were not held to account for their involvement. This verdict, therefore, is a great victory for justice and
Starting point is 00:38:05 truth. It has been a difficult and painful experience to revisit the tragedy, but we felt we had an obligation to do everything in our power to seek the truth, not only for the peace of mind of our family, but to also bring closure and healing to the nation. We have done what we can to reveal the truth, and we now urge you as a member of the media, and we call upon elected officials and other persons of influence to do
Starting point is 00:38:26 what they can to share revelation of this case to the widest possible audience. And guys... Have you guys ever heard that? Nobody else has done that, but we are. I never even heard of this trial in 1998. Have you? 99. 99.
Starting point is 00:38:41 It may have started, I guess, in 98. I don't know, but... You ever remember this? No. I've never heard of it. And I'm trying to think. At this time, I was just, you know, as pregnant with my child. I don't ever remember any trial, nothing. But this is what's funny is, not funny, but during this trial phase, there was only two
Starting point is 00:39:02 reporters during a two and a half week trial. Yeah. Two reporters. Well, reporting it. But how much have you ever heard about it since? You've heard nothing. Now, here's the thing, Dr. King's son, Dexter Scott King, called his father's assassination the most incredible cover-up of the century.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Yeah. Even though he would probably have to say JFK was also right there with it. And I do want to read his statement because I feel like it's, I think that it's, you know, it's a shorter statement, but I feel like it's needed because it is. You know, it's one thing that they've never even got media coverage on this. It never still has media coverage. And so we're giving it coverage.
Starting point is 00:39:40 We are. Dexter Scott King said in the following statement, we can say that because of the evidence and information obtained in Memphis, we believe that this case is over. This is a period in the chapter. We constantly hear reports which trouble me, that this verdict creates more questions than answers, that it's totally false.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Anyone who's set in almost four weeks of testimony with over 70 witnesses, credible witnesses, I might add, from several judges to other credible witnesses, would know that the truth is here. The question now is, what will you do with that? we as a family have done our part we have carried this mantle for as long as we can carry it we know what happened it is on public record the transcripts will be available we will make them
Starting point is 00:40:17 available on the web at some point any serious researcher who wants to know what happened can find out um so dr king's children martin luther king the third and bernice king all expressed relief of the verdict um author political historian and theologian jim douglas said that a truth was in that Memphis courtroom in 1999, but barely anyone was there to meet it face to face, just like you said. Nobody. Only the people, like, in the trial and two reporters. Yeah, it was only a Memphis TV reporter, Wendell Stacey, and Jim Douglas, was the only one that attended from the beginning to the end of this historic three and a half week trial. Yeah. And Jim Douglas, that's a lot of what I read, you know, I've been reading his statements and his, you know, acknowledge, and it's a long thing. And I guess that's why I got
Starting point is 00:41:06 scattered and maybe made it confusing or whatever. But if you have time, you need to go read Mr. Douglas's article about this whole thing because it's just like there's so much, there's so many other faucets that tell you there's all these other witnesses. There's 25 other witnesses that weren't even questioned during this time of the assassination that had like they had videos. They had tapes. They saw things happen. They witnessed things happen and they were never even interviewed. Yeah, and as we talked about before, the Justice Department tried everything they could to counter any evidence at all presented in that trial. And it's sad how so many people, even if you mention MLK conspiracy, literally laugh it off as a conspiracy theory. And it's not.
Starting point is 00:41:53 But Mr. Douglas, which has like basically an online e-book on this and, you know, and was one of the people historian that was there that day, when he was questioned about the just Department doing this and trying to dismantle everything. His statement was 32 years after Memphis. We know that the government that now honors Dr. King with a national holiday also killed him. Yes. And that's what's incredible. As will once again become evident when the Justice Department releases the findings of its limited
Starting point is 00:42:22 reinvestigation into King's death, the government, as a fast soldier of corporate powers, continue in its cover-up, just as it continues to do so in the closely related murders of John and Robert Kennedy and Malcolm X. This is what he said. Now, by the way, so if you hear what he says here, and guys, listen, I want to make this very clear. What he says right here in this statement is exactly what many people believe the government is going to do with JFK because these files are supposed to be released. But listen, he says, as will once be, as will once again become evident when the Justice Department releases the findings of his limited reinvestigation. It doesn't matter. They ain't releasing shit.
Starting point is 00:43:08 But, you know, he had hope they were. You know, because that's what the government does. They say, hey, you know what? We're going to do that. We're going to reinvestigate this. And we're going to redact certain parts. It's bullshit. That is, you know, security of our country.
Starting point is 00:43:20 And then we're going to let you have it. And they're full of crap. Because the only thing they're worried about is the government. I think they're worried about retaliation, too. Like they were with JFK. And with everything else. Like, the government is protecting the government. They're not protecting the people.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Sorry, guys, if that was a little confusing. We were kind of all over the place a little bit. I'm sorry. It's probably my fault. No, no, it's all good. But, I mean, I was so into it that I wanted to know that, you know, the names and blah, blah, blah. So in Frank LaBertrude, or whatever his name is, the mafia dude, I think he had a lot to do with it. And he was even overheard on the phone like five minutes before Jeff K.
Starting point is 00:44:03 I mean, MLK was murdered. And I just want to They like to assassinate people with the abbreviation I'm going to quote what he said That this LeVada Addison Heard him say Like five minutes before And who were you talking about?
Starting point is 00:44:17 This is Frank, the mafia guy Frank LaBerto He said They asked him straight up Did you kill Martin Luther King Jr? He said I didn't kill the nigger But I had it done
Starting point is 00:44:30 But I had it done So that's what they heard him say So he said that was out of his mouth. That's what he said. Okay. So I just think that is disgusting. Yeah. So listen to this.
Starting point is 00:44:44 1999 trial comes up where they have 70 plus witnesses, a four-week trial. And yet, to this day, you look up on Amazon or if you teach it in school, you're taught that James Earl Ray killed Martin Luther King. Although Martin Luther King's own family and everybody else. and mainly because of the trial, mainly because this is, this was four weeks, by the way, Kyle Rittinghouse trial,
Starting point is 00:45:11 which is, I mean, shit, I don't even know why it's lasting two weeks for Kyle Rittenhouse, but his trial's lasted two weeks. And there's basically zero evidence on that. But this lasted four weeks, four freaking weeks and 70 plus witnesses of everything that went on. And there is,
Starting point is 00:45:31 I'm assuming testimony out there for all four, weeks of that. There's even witnesses saying that when the police first arrived, they like barricaded, you know, but they saw this people get into the Chevrolet, these two white guys, and speed off around the corner through Mulberry Street and they just let them go. Yeah. And they're like, obviously these guys had something involved or something, but they watched this happen. And then knowing that they were speeding off, they just let them go and they barricaded the street. Yeah. And the dude that was in the picture with Martin Luther King after he was shot was one of the guys that conspired to kill him. That was the, how do you say that guy's name?
Starting point is 00:46:15 Marl McCa. He was a cop. How do you say his name? Merrill McCola. And guess what? He's in the CIA. Yeah, now, right? Yeah, now.
Starting point is 00:46:26 Yeah. All right. So let's just, let's talk about what this all. means because I mean I think why did they assassinate him? Yeah. What does it mean Why? I mean there has been What are you saying? Well I was just going to say sorry real quick
Starting point is 00:46:45 Chad. Sorry. All right so I was reading in this transcript that there was a few reasons that I feel like the government was behind his assassination. Number one he was Which I don't believe a lot of these but Okay well I'm just saying this is what I kind of read. Yeah. his speeches about the Vietnam War.
Starting point is 00:47:06 He was, you know, pretty much speaking against the government saying how violent the government was and blah, blah, blah, and, you know, that they were, I can't remember exactly what it said, and I don't know what I wrote now, darn it. But he was saying, Chad, don't like you. Well, you're the one that says you want to do it and then you don't even remember what you're saying. But he was just speaking against the Vietnam War. He didn't like the violence that was going on during the war. made the White House really angry. That was one thing that they were talking about. Another thing is he was speaking about the poor rights movement.
Starting point is 00:47:42 And he was talking about the sanitation workers. There was a big movement with that, with all the poor people working that they wanted the same rights. But a lot of these protests, unfortunately, they became violent instead of non-violent. And he wasn't wanting that. Yeah. So that was another reason. Which is also not, they're not going to kill someone for that. None of that.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Oh, he said U.S. was the greatest purveyor of violence during the Vietnam War. Which that's true. I mean, I think everyone kind of realized that. And then... The Vietnam War was for literally nothing. Yeah. So he was like preaching about that. And then he was also preaching about the poor people rights, the sanitation workers.
Starting point is 00:48:23 And these sanitation workers went out and were protesting, but they, I think, got violent. And then they blamed it on. Martin Luther King. Yeah. All right. Now the real reason why he got murdered. I mean,
Starting point is 00:48:38 that's what you read. So it was not your beliefs. Yeah, that's what I read. But, you know, I don't believe any of that because, I mean, yeah, okay, so you can lead a poor people march for better rights
Starting point is 00:48:50 and for better pay and all this stuff. I mean, that's fine. I don't think personally that's a reason to kill someone. And I don't even think the government would have considered that a reason to kill someone. Number two, and by the way, I don't know if any of you realize how good
Starting point is 00:49:09 the government is at mental warfare, at psychological warfare, they're great at it. And let me tell you why I say this. Because whereas you can know, the government can know that they had every part to play in Martin Luther King's murder, and they can know that the stuff out there says that James Earl Ray did this and nowadays in 2021 Alexa says that he did this and they can know all that stuff but they always also know that there
Starting point is 00:49:40 is always going to be another narrative so what they do? Well they take narratives they will the government themselves and this is what you guys have to understand and I know a lot of you probably do but the government themselves will get involved in conspiracy theories
Starting point is 00:49:57 and what I mean yeah conspiracy theories right so they will create new conspiracy theories to throw off
Starting point is 00:50:07 of the real reason right so for example this Vietnam War the government would have probably thrown out some rumors out there
Starting point is 00:50:14 and however they were going to do that to make people the conspiracy theorists back then which is who they just discounted and laughed off
Starting point is 00:50:22 they would throw out these these theories of why he may have been killed the government themselves may have done this to make sure that whatever. Sounds weird because it does sound weird
Starting point is 00:50:34 if I'm sitting here thinking well why would the government kill him for basically saying some crazy shit about the government and Vietnam because everyone was against Vietnam War Yeah. It wasn't just him. There was more people against our soldiers coming home from that war than ever before.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Even that they were against our soldiers. Yeah, exactly. But you have to understand that even then people were not dumb And like that's one thing like A lot of people are always like Oh you got to support our soldiers I can't believe our soldiers came home to the worst Homecoming ever
Starting point is 00:51:04 And what we have to understand though Is that whereas it is our soldiers And I am all for our soldiers They were taking orders because they had no choice When you enlist you have no choice of what happens You go or you You know whatever I mean you have to go So when there's this
Starting point is 00:51:21 And they were being drafted at the time Yeah They weren't even worse. They weren't even signing up. Yeah, they had no choice at all. And so that's what I'm saying. It wasn't our soldiers' fault, right? I mean, what we put our soldiers through into being on war is horrific.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Yeah, it's awful. And for nothing. And but the people were still against the war, and they automatically, you know, put soldiers in connection with killing innocent people because that's what happened a lot. Not only did our soldiers kill a lot of innocent people, it was kind of encouraged to rape innocent women over there and children. Our own soldiers did that. And it was pretty awful. But I don't believe whatsoever that the government killed Martin Luther King because he was saying we are the greatest purveyor of violence based on Vietnam War. Although, if you really look at wars and shit that start and some of the stuff that we've done, I mean, as a patriotic American, you know, I love our country because I've said it in the last podcast.
Starting point is 00:52:18 I love our people. I love the people that make this the country. I don't love our government. I love our people. But our government, if you look at the government, if you look at the, like, for take an example, Martin Luther King, take for example, JFK, take for example, as they said, as even Martin Luther King's family said, Malcolm X, and others, you know, if they're going to do that to our own leaders, our own people that are trying to bring change and bring peace. And bring good change. Yeah. What the hell do you think they're doing to other people in other countries, you know?
Starting point is 00:52:51 I know. You're right. That is a good statement. If they're willing to do that to their own people, what are they willing to do to other people in other countries? They don't give a crap about the people in their own country. And the thing is, is that I've never been, I've never even thought like I've been thinking lately as far as just our,
Starting point is 00:53:10 like America, I guess you can say. But what I will say is that we have always, for the longest time, we have had willingness of guys to sign up in the military to defend our freedom as we thought we were doing to defend our... But like I said, I think freedom is a mirage is something that we appear to see, but we don't really have it.
Starting point is 00:53:38 But that's a great way to get people willingly sign up for the military to go out and execute your murderous shit that we've done in a lot of cases. You know, Operation Northwoods, and this all has everything to do with everything. JFK, MLK, Operation Northwoods. If you guys haven't listened to Operation Northwoods podcast, we did, go listen to it. Operation Northwoods, in short, but we can go deep into this, so, you know, don't just take this and say, oh, we're not going to listen to it.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Go listen to it. But Operation Northwoods, in short, was probably the reason why JFK got murdered. And because, I mean, I've looked at all the possible scenarios, and that's probably really the reason he got murdered. Operation Northwoods was a, we wanted to overthrow Fidel Castro probably because we wanted to take over Cuba, if I had to guess. We wanted to own Cuba and not Cuba.
Starting point is 00:54:28 And so we were going to basically fake terrorist attacks, not fake them, but we were going to create terrorist attacks in our own country. Our own government was going to kill our own people and then blame it on Cuba to then go to war with Cuba. When this came to JFK, JFK was appalled by this. And I think JFK probably threatened
Starting point is 00:54:46 that he was going to the media, in a speech to say this shit. And they didn't like that. And they're like, we got to get rid this dude. Because if they find out that we were this fucked up, you know what I mean? Like this is just he, you know, and I think ever since they have probably never went to a president again
Starting point is 00:55:04 with their deep state bullshit, you know. And, but it's that, it's M.K. What all this says is that, oh, man, what all of it says is. is that the government is going to use people for what they want. Yeah, but it's not even that. It's just. And they're going to cover up and do. We are.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Oh, so the Operation Northwood thing. So the fact that we could do that, that we were going to do that. And look, that's just one instance. That's just the fact that something happened to where that information of Operation Northwoods even got out. The fact that those documents ever even saw the light of day. And listen. But listen. on. I want to finish this because I almost forgot it the first time.
Starting point is 00:55:48 Okay, sorry. The fact the Operation Northwoods ever even got out the documents. And the only reason it probably got out was a whistleblower or something. I'm not exactly sure, but it would have probably never got. If our own Americans would have got murdered or killed for that, if it would happen, you would never have ever heard about Operation Northwoods. But the thing is, we've never done a podcast on this, or never done an episode on this podcast about 9-11. That's what I was, oh my gosh, our minds. That was that I was getting ready to say. Well, I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:56:20 If they can do that, I mean, there's a lot of people that believe 9-11 happened differently than what we know of. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, at the very least. I'm not saying it was fake and made up and people didn't die. No, they did die. Yeah, we know people died. But how and who set that up? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:37 That's the question. A lot of people believe it was a good thing. At the very, very, very, very least. At the very least, we have evidence out since 9-11, plenty of evidence, that our government, FBI, and intelligence knew about the attacks beforehand. Regardless of however you want to look at that, we knew that. We knew that it was coming. There were threats of it.
Starting point is 00:57:06 There were whatever. That's what they're saying, okay? Yeah. And I think those guys were on the list or whatever, and they were actually... Well, fuck the list. The terrorist list or whatever. I know. But we didn't even have a list.
Starting point is 00:57:16 us then. I mean, like we, I mean, maybe our government does, but our government's more worried about its own people, you know, than they are other countries. They don't give a shit about their other countries. But what I'm saying is sometimes they don't worry about their own people. No, they don't. They don't give a shit. No, they never worry about their own people. The government doesn't care at all about his own people. But you just said they're only worried about their own people. No, I'm saying, no, that's not what I said. No, I'm saying they're only worried about fucking over their own people. Gotcha. Because the other countries, like our government is so concerned about screwing over our own people
Starting point is 00:57:47 nowadays. They don't even care about China or anything. Like China's over there, like, taking over Taiwan soon, all this shit. And our government's like, no, we just got to figure out to fuck over everybody in this country, though. No, right now. Who cares about all these other people? And right now, we're in China's back pocket. Yeah, but look, I mean, China's
Starting point is 00:58:03 control on almost everything we do. But listen, let's not get too far off topic. I know. I'm not saying you. I'm saying me either. I'm reminding myself. But the MLK thing. I believe he was murdered because he was a uniter. And listen, I promise you, there's one thing I don't, there's one thing that's never happened in this country and it's for a reason.
Starting point is 00:58:28 And really, if you look at all countries in this world, there's not very many countries that are united. There's always something dividing. And I don't necessarily believe it's human nature. I don't necessarily believe it is the way that you're born. No one is ever born to hate someone else. No one has ever born to hate another political affiliation. No one's ever born in saying, I'm a Republican, and I'm a Democrat, and I believe in this shit.
Starting point is 00:58:54 And no one's ever born to hate somebody based on their color or their gender or anything. Yeah, you can have disagreements. You can have different things. I mean, honestly, you know, it's funny that they say opposites attract and relationships, but yet for some reason in real life and public makes you want to kill someone. Like, the reality is that the government is for a long time. Obviously. I mean, this is 1968. JFK was 1963.
Starting point is 00:59:19 You know, you even have Roswell lying to the people. You know, you have, you have just immense lying. And like I say, if you go back, if you go back, there were wars. You know, 1776 and the Civil War and just so much shit. That was when people just didn't put up with shit, you know, and it was like, no, we're fighting this. But even then, the government used. division to do whatever. Yeah, to divide and conquer.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Because look, if you ever have a country of a united people, because we're called the United States, I think we really do need to rename our country until we are actually united. Yeah. Because we are right now just the states. It should really be called the divided states of America. But the reality is that if you had an entire country united, okay? And you had, and by the way, there are countries out there.
Starting point is 01:00:14 governments that are not fucked up. There are governments out there that are not corrupt for the most part. You've got countries like Sweden. You've got countries like, I mean, and actually a lot of the ways that you can see governments that are not corrupt as fuck has been through this pandemic. If you look at like the way they treated their people during this and what they did. The care packages that they sent off. That's India.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Well, that's India. India, yeah. But I'm not necessarily saying India is not corrupt, even though they do actually appear to care about their people. Because, you know, you wouldn't send out care packages of shit you think might work because, you know, you're not after money, obviously. You're after the care of your people. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:58 But, you know, Sweden, Lithuania, I think, was another one. I mean, there are countries out there that, you know, at least from the pandemic standpoint, are not out for corruption. I mean, there are other ones. There are other ones. But I actually. I mean, I don't have a list of them right now, but I have research this shit. And it's actually kind of funny.
Starting point is 01:01:19 If you look up pandemic laws, worst to least, and blah, blah, blah, you'll usually see where the corruption lies and where the freedom lies. I mean, there are actual countries that freedom is probably, they're more free than we are. Sweden is probably one of those. But the thing is, is that if you look at these countries that their governments are not as corrupt, and you look at the, I guess the, the overall view of people's relationships in that country, it's a lot better than here. Like Sweden, I was reading some about how united those people are, how much it's like everyone's so nice to everybody.
Starting point is 01:02:01 You just don't have issues like this. Because that government doesn't have a reason to divide. But as soon as you have a reason to divide, which, you know, Sweden doesn't believe that those people are ever going to come and try to overthrow the government because they're not doing corrupt enough shit to do it. They don't have a reason to. That's the reason that our government's giving us to...
Starting point is 01:02:20 Because they've always been corrupt. I mean, I hate to say this, but... Well, but we're going back in time. I hate to say it. I mean, I think the United States government has been one of the most corrupt governments. I mean, and it's crazy because I think it's starting to open up eyes to people. And I think this is why lockdowns and crazy and freedom of speech and social media and all this shit is coming in. I think it's coming in because there's only so many...
Starting point is 01:02:42 times you can do shit like this and lie and lie to people. That's why I like Trump, for example. They hated him. They did. And Trump's one of those people that I'm actually surprised he didn't get killed. I really am. And I'm not saying it, I'm not saying that's over with either. I mean, I'm not, you know, I'm saying that I'm surprised he didn't. But it's also going to be a lot harder to do that nowadays, but it's not at the same time.
Starting point is 01:03:07 I mean, because the unfortunate part is the corruption is, is it. control right now. They're in control. And they were even in control during Trump's term. But I think the last assassination attempt was on Reagan. Yeah. Which was like, what, four presidents ago, I think? But how many presidents? I mean, okay,
Starting point is 01:03:26 for example, look at George Bush, George W. Bush was a Republican. He was there during the 9-11. He came out against, no, no, he didn't. But he came out against Trump. He's literally, to me, sounds like a Democrat nowadays. He's,
Starting point is 01:03:42 sounds like part of this fucked up, you know, government. Well, he's also friends with Hillary. Yeah, I mean, all this shit. Yeah. But that's what I'm saying. You either get on board and get in line with this corruption or you're, or you could be dead. And so you've got to think about when Trump came in and he was completely against all
Starting point is 01:03:58 this shit, even though Trump didn't, didn't, he wasn't as hard nose as people even think he was. He could have been a lot more, like when you, when you say you're going to drain the swamp, well, you better just fucking fire everybody. Like, everyone in the government. It doesn't matter. You just redo everything. You do a year of applications of people.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Because no one in this government, I would say 75 to 80% of the people in the government is corrupt. I mean, that's sad. But they have to be. It's like Hollywood. There was someone that said that, and I think it was a Bill Maher. No, no, no. No, what? Oh, I thought you were talking about what we're just talking about outside.
Starting point is 01:04:39 No, but Bill Maher, whoever. And Bill Maher used to be a big. liberal. He used to talk shit about Trump all the time and whatever. But now he's starting to realize how fuck this country is now. So he's like going on the opposite side now. But Bill Maher, I think it was Bill Maher, it said, there's no way that
Starting point is 01:04:54 you can sit here and say that everyone in Hollywood just happens to have the same political beliefs and same beliefs, because that just don't happen. It's impossible. What is saying is that you either get in line with this or you aren't getting a fucking
Starting point is 01:05:10 job, which means you're not ever going to act again. Yeah. Same thing with this government. Yeah. You either get in line. On trial, you either say what we tell you to say or you're going to be killed. Yeah. And that's also an option.
Starting point is 01:05:23 I mean, look, there. And it goes back to even like Jeffrey Epstein, for example. You know, you're going to be killed if you're going to affect us in the wrong way and you're going to harm the government. Which that he would have. We're going to take care of you. He would have. You're going to be dead. There's no question.
Starting point is 01:05:39 If he would have ever went to trial, it would have been a shitstorm. I mean, I swear to God, guys. And this goes back to JFK, I mean, with Martin Luther King, too. There were so many people that testified, but they were redirected to different buildings, and they gave them a question and answer book and said, you need to read this, and this is how you respond during court. Yeah. So this was not about truth.
Starting point is 01:06:05 This was about. And this is whose trial? Martin Luther King's trial. What you mean? What trial? What are you talking? I'm talking about the 1989 trial. 1999.
Starting point is 01:06:15 1998 trial. Sorry. 1998 trial. There was tons of people. It was 99, but okay. Well, whatever it was. I don't know. But whatever.
Starting point is 01:06:25 I'm just saying, there was a lot of people that wanted to testify the truth and they couldn't. And they even say that. For example, but you know what the funny thing is? The African American fire department guys that were at fire station two, they were told that you either say this or you are you know they even have people saying you better watch your back but you never mention that um the fire department guys were moved or whatever but what about martin leger king's security detail oh yeah so usually he did have black african-american black security to kill they took all the black people office security detail that time oh definitely sounds like jeffrey upstein
Starting point is 01:07:05 yeah and they had um they also had the fire department the the the fire department taking surveillance of where he was. Well, they took him off their fire department and put them in different fire departments and they didn't even give him reasons. I'm still confused what the hell you're even talking about about the fire department. I think people will probably be too.
Starting point is 01:07:24 I know because... I still don't understand what you're talking about. Well, that's why they took them off. Because they're like... Took who off? The fire department guys. Why would they take the fire department guys off? These fire department guys were like part of the security,
Starting point is 01:07:35 but that was their reason why they're taking them off. Of Martin Luther King. Oh, in case something happened to him, I guess. Okay, that makes sense. And it was two African American fire department guys that were like watching from their fire department station two. And the day before he was assassinated, they were moved to different fire departments. Just like the black detective, he was not allowed to be in the security thing. And he always had like a black detail, like black security.
Starting point is 01:08:08 And they were saying for some reason they didn't want. any black people to secure Martin Luther King Jr. that day. I mean, yeah. I mean, I know you read that and I know it's true. I just didn't understand the fire department thing. So I guess he had the fire department, I guess he had
Starting point is 01:08:24 I guess where it was located or something. I don't know. Well, he probably had medical detail and standby people and stuff like that. I don't know. But they probably did everywhere. And they questioned and questioned, then they wouldn't give them a reason why, but they moved all of them. By the way, I do want to say this. And guys, I want to
Starting point is 01:08:40 I want to ask all of you people that are black of color listening tonight. And we do have quite a few black listeners that I mean that's reached out to us and stuff. And we appreciate all of you guys. But I do want to tell you guys something. Because the Martin Luther King thing made me think about this as well. It's not necessarily, you know, for example, they tried to pin this on a white guy. Regardless however you want to look at it, it was a white guy. They made sure, you know, they used to refer.
Starting point is 01:09:10 to black people, Negroes. Bigger. And, yeah, and whatever. And then, but then when they, you know, it's perfect if they could get James R. Ray, is a white guy. And he's already getting in trouble. And they still do this, by the way, to this day. They do this shit with the blacks and whites.
Starting point is 01:09:25 But what I'm saying is, it's kind of similar to slavery and it's kind of similar to this. It's not white people that has always been against blacks. Martin Luther King, I think, knew that himself. I think Martin Luther King knew that it was a problem with the system and the government is why black people were hindered. And especially even then, the Democratic Party. I hate to say that, but it is. But listen, the Democratic Party then was the ones really truly hindering the black community.
Starting point is 01:09:57 And a lot of people don't understand that. But it's not about whites. It's about beliefs. It's about a mindset and it's about a deep state. It is always, always, always, according to the government, always been about whites versus. is blacks. White suppressed blacks. White makes, whites make slavery. Whites are racist. Whites enslave blacks. It's not about that, though. It is about government entities enslave whoever the hell they want to. Like for example, right now, they're kind of trying to do that to white people.
Starting point is 01:10:30 They're trying to put out the narrative that whites are racist. They are Trump supporting racist, domestic terrorists. I mean, they're doing the same type of campaigns for whites now that they did with blacks. Yeah. And the thing is, if black people would realize the majority of black people would understand that when you look to the government ever
Starting point is 01:10:57 to try to save you from whatever your past is or was, that's where you're just allowing yourself to get right back into it, Because, I mean, the thing is, is, look. You just hit the nail on the head. 80% of the people in this country are not racist. No, they're not much. I don't know of any, I don't know personally. Like, really personally.
Starting point is 01:11:21 I don't know of any white person that I can think of off top of my head. Then I know a lot of white people. I know a lot of black people. But I can't think of any white person. And I know a lot of country-ass white people. I know a lot of rednecks. I know a lot of everything. I mean, preppy people.
Starting point is 01:11:37 I know rich white people. I know all that shit. I don't know of any of them that are racist. I don't know of anybody that are racist. I don't even know that I've ever had a conversation with anybody. Well, I don't think so. I mean, that is flat out racist saying they hate blacks. Well, let me ask you this.
Starting point is 01:11:54 Do you know any black people that are racist against white people? And be honest, do you? Do I know any black people? Yeah, do you know any black people that honestly do not like white people? Well, the funny thing about it is, is that no. I mean, social media-wise, yes, nowadays. Even though a lot of these black people, I went to school with. They were some of my best friends growing up.
Starting point is 01:12:17 And now it's like you'll see them post stuff or whatever. And it's like it's everything against whites. They hate white people now. They want to, you know. And these are people that I grew up with. Never ever even thought that way. And now they do. And I'm not saying there aren't probably white people thinking the same thing.
Starting point is 01:12:36 But that's my point is this. the government that's got into the minds of the people. Right. Because you can't let people come together. No. Can you imagine if everyone in this country, without a doubt, without a shadow of doubt, everyone in this country was like, this government is majorly fucked up. And we have to do something about this.
Starting point is 01:12:54 Same thing with black people. If black people truly believed, and by the way, there are some issues in law enforcement, but there's issues, there's far bigger. There is eight million times bigger issues in this government we have right now than law enforcement. Right. So that's my point. And a lot of them voted for this, you know, for this because they were brainwashed. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:13 But what I'm saying is that if even with the police thing, even with the blacks police thing, it's not, if if the black lives matter community, which that should have never, ever even been a statement. The statement should have always been all lives matter, our lives matter, quit killing our people, meaning human beings. You government officials, if you hold a power, right? You were automatically, not technically, the citizens. You hold a higher authority. It should never have been divided by blacks and whites. It should have always been, you were killing human beings. They should have started coming out with, if they wanted everyone to get on board, which they don't, but that's my point.
Starting point is 01:13:55 And you're talking about they as the government. Government, media, whatever. They should have came out with statistics. They should have started highlighting when cops are killing whites unarmed for no reason, right? Because there was some cases of, I mean, obviously there's been cases of police killing people they shouldn't have. And I've been pissed off at some of the videos I've watched. I've been pissed off even though you barely ever see white people being killed by police because they don't want to show that shit. But, you know, it does happen at like five times the rate of blacks, even though blacks are a minority.
Starting point is 01:14:24 Yeah. But even if I've done the stats on this shit, I've looked at it, even if you look at it from a per capita per minority and you separate and you do this, It's about even. I mean, there's literally, even if you take the amount of black people in this country and the amount of white people, it's about even with unarmed shootings. I mean, per capita, right? So, but that was never an issue. It was always the blacks because they wanted to, the media and government wanted to divide. So if the media and government would have came out and said, well, there's pretty much almost as many white people being killed because there are more white people being killed a year than blacks by cops.
Starting point is 01:15:04 But they don't say that. But you have to go by. And even if you do it per capita, it's about even. But they never came out and said that because they didn't want to say that. But imagine if this community evolved from, okay, we have an issue in law enforcement. And we need to make sure that we protest to hold everyone accountable, at least to make law enforcement know that you have a higher power than we do. You hold a badge. And you are part of the system.
Starting point is 01:15:31 And the system trinkles down from this fucked up government. all the way down to police. Right. But instead of defunding the police... But listen, you're having made my point. My point is, is that if everyone would have said, we have to make sure that police are accountable for every unarmed... It doesn't matter about blacks versus whites or anybody else.
Starting point is 01:15:49 I agree. 100%. Yeah. That shit would have worked. Yeah, it would have. And instead of us all saying, are the people with Black Lives Matter saying they want to defund police, they should have funded police more to train them properly, to work these kinks out in if there were bad apples, get them out of there.
Starting point is 01:16:10 There's bad apples in every career. Yeah. There really are. But I don't think defunding the police is a solution to this matter at all. Of them feeling like they have more power of black people, white people, anybody. Yeah. And that's another thing. That's another way they've divided the country is the justice system.
Starting point is 01:16:32 Beyond police, and this all has to do with MLK, man. MLK always said, you know, freedom of people, freedom to assemble, freedom to protest, freedom to freedom of speech, you know, equal justice, so on and so forth. The problem is that if we had everyone in this country together that recognized and understood that the justice system in America today is crumbling, it is the most politically biased shit. you will ever see. I mean, and the problem is it does start with law enforcement. I mean, it does, because law enforcement arrests someone based on whatever it is. And law enforcement doesn't always necessarily have a choice. Like Kyle Rittinghouse, FBI withheld video of that night.
Starting point is 01:17:22 So therefore, they charged him, even though pretty much that video would have, you know, he would not even have been tried. He would not even have been any of that stuff. but they withheld it because it was politically based. So my point is is that we have a justice system that we can't trust now. I mean, Kyle Rittinghouse, unfortunately, you know, he was there to help.
Starting point is 01:17:43 He was. And he was a young guy, there to help, and he had the balls to make sure he didn't leave their dead. Right? I mean, he did. Yeah, he would have been.
Starting point is 01:17:54 I mean, we've seen it in all the other protests. There's people that have died in other protests, being beaten in the streets and all this shit. But the thing, thing is, is that we don't have a united people against corruption. And unfortunately, Kyle Rittenhouse is sitting in a justice system right now that is going to be determined based on who the hell knows. I mean, these jurors are under threat and duress of being killed or whatever. They will not even drive their own cars to the courthouse. No, they're showing up to the
Starting point is 01:18:26 courthouse with machine gun security. Yeah. I mean, and literally a, a, Fair trial, by the way, which is a God-given and government-given, government-granted right of a fair trial means that there should be no outside persuasion. You're not even supposed to have heard or know about the case. Everyone has. They all watch the news. There's no way you can avoid it. There's no way you didn't know that you were going to be. I don't know that you could have possibly picked any jurors that didn't know about Kyle Reddinghouse. or Kenosha or any of that. I just don't know that you could have done that. And so it's already not a fair trial. It's already outside influence of being scared for your life. Right.
Starting point is 01:19:11 If you say he's not guilty. Yeah. And then even if they do, by the way, do the judge thing, which we're not going to go crazy deep in this because we're going to have another episode on this. But my point is that the justice system and everything is corrupt in this country. It's corrupt in many countries. But it's getting really bad here. And unfortunately, I don't think. I think it's been that way.
Starting point is 01:19:32 I mean, I don't, I don't think it's not been that way. What I'm saying is, I think it's been that way for a long time. And, but it's gotten worse. I think, I mean, if you look at the Martin Luther King assassination, if you look at JFK, if you look at all those, man, imagine what they can do now. And, you know, you remember that rumor, how many Hillary's kill list, how many people have died that were connected? to Hillary that had information on her. I mean, I'm talking about a shit ton of people. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:06 And people laugh that off yet again as another conspiracy. Yeah, but it's not a conspiracy. Just like the Russia... Collusion hoax bullshit that's on Trump. Guess who is like who's been found out that's like in the middle of it? You told me today. Yeah, I think he's over to the Department of Justice. He is...
Starting point is 01:20:24 I think it's Department of Justice. Yeah. Or is the Department of Justice? It's one of those. Yeah, he was named in the Russian. in the in the Russian collusion indictment that came down for Hillary's whoever it was, campaign manager, whoever. But that's the thing, man.
Starting point is 01:20:44 If we listen to this MLK and JFK and all this stuff, like that, like this, that government wasn't even as corrupt as the fucking one we have now. It's crazy. So, you know, here we are all of our lives that we've been blaming on black and white against each other. But it's not. But it's really not that. I think if we had no government involved and it was just us living together, I think we would have united a long time ago because I know for a fact that I have nothing against anybody of a different color.
Starting point is 01:21:14 No. And I think a lot of people with a different color have nothing against me. No, it's just like if you go, like we have neighbor, our neighbors are black. And, you know, we could go over there. Yeah, we hang out with them. We talk to them. I mean. And they have some big parties, big barbecues and stuff.
Starting point is 01:21:31 And we could go over there any day. And they would invite us. Yeah. Whatever. And even if, even if we talked about politics, right? And they may disagree with us. We wouldn't be like, you know what? Fuck you.
Starting point is 01:21:45 I'm leaving. You know, we just wouldn't be that way. Well, it's the same thing if you disagree with a white person with politics. Yeah. You know, I just think that they're using this color thing way too much because. And there's, but there's some people that take it to the extreme. I mean, there are. And we've seen examples of that.
Starting point is 01:22:04 On both sides. We have, or on all sides. I mean, you know, we had the Asians that were being abused or whatever for whatever. I still don't even understand that. But it's just, and the thing is the media is going to do and betray anything they want to betray that to achieve their narrative. Yeah, to keep us divided. And to keep you controlled.
Starting point is 01:22:27 To control us. That's what it is. But guys, I can't wait until we have this social media out. And by the way, I do want to take a minute to thank each of you. We've been getting more and more messages on our Facebook thanking us and just message of appreciation for us doing this, doing the podcast. And I do reply to as many of you as I can. I think I reply to pretty much all of you on Facebook.
Starting point is 01:22:57 Email, I can't because there's literally, everywhere our podcast goes out our email is always there so like everyone all of you to listen to us email us um but go to our facebook and message us there we will respond to you and we love hearing your messages we love just the fact that you even listen to us we appreciate you guys probably way more than you appreciate us and uh you know without you without y'all we would we would not do this i mean we would have no reason to you know we're doing this for you we're doing this because well we do it for us too we enjoy it Yeah, we do enjoy it, but the only reason we would enjoy it is if people are listening.
Starting point is 01:23:34 Like, I would not sit here and do this shit when no one listening. Yeah, and I'm sorry if I was confusing, guys, sorry. No, no, you're good. But I'm just saying. But we wouldn't do this without people listening. Everything is corruption now. And by the way, for those of you that are listening to us, I would like to know how you guys listen to us. Send us a message on Facebook, Investigator the Earth Podcast.
Starting point is 01:23:55 And soon, you're going to be able to send us a message directly to our new social media accounts. which is on our own social media. No. Sherry, be quiet. Oh my God, I knew you were going to do that. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 01:24:08 Don't do that. We have not released that. Well, I didn't say the whole thing. God, anyways, let's just move on. But soon you're going to be able to message us and send,
Starting point is 01:24:17 I knew, for some reason, I freaking knew you were going to do that. I don't know why. Just be quiet. You know, I can't say anything else. I can't keep anything.
Starting point is 01:24:25 Anyway. But we do appreciate. each and every one of you and we wouldn't do this without you obviously and we you know we all we want for people is for we we want the best for all of you we want all of you to understand that we are people we have rights we all have freedoms and um and we have to make sure that we maintain those and by the way this is not just for americans we love all of you we love people from we've had messages from New Zealand, UK, Canada, wherever. We love all of you.
Starting point is 01:24:58 And all of you have to... We all have to... We all have to unite. We're all... But we're all people. It doesn't matter what countries we live in. We are all people. But I do want you all to...
Starting point is 01:25:09 I want as many of you that can. Message us on Facebook and tell us how you listen to us. Do you listen to us on the way to work? Do you listen to us when you're in shower? You listen to us when you're taking a poop. I'm just saying I do a lot of stuff when I'm doing that but I'm just curious I want to know how you guys listen to us
Starting point is 01:25:31 do you listen to us on the phone do you list to us in headphones like like how old are you listening to us and where well a lot of them are Spotify like a lot of our listeners listen to us to Spotify but I also challenge each and everyone for those of you are still listening an hour and 25 minutes later which we got to go because I got to cook some steak I challenge you all to share our podcast You can go on our Facebook.
Starting point is 01:25:54 That's probably the easy. If you have a social media account, go on our Facebook, Investing Earth podcast. As soon as this episode is released on our Facebook, for now anyway, until it, like, you know, gets deleted. Because we're not going to stay on Facebook long. But go and share our podcast. Share it in your group. Share it on your page. Encourage people, tag people to listen to us.
Starting point is 01:26:14 And, you know, it'll help us, but it'll help spread our message to people that are not going to find us on Spotify, not going to find us. There's a lot of people that still, believe it or not, don't even know about podcast. There's a lot of people that literally have no idea what the hell of a podcast is. They don't get it. But share us. We definitely appreciate all that.
Starting point is 01:26:32 And we're going to end this episode tonight. And with the song we started with, but you guys, we ended in a little early. But we want you to listen to the words because I think it says a lot about America today. It is hard in America. It's hard everywhere.
Starting point is 01:26:47 And I'm not just saying America, but it's hard around the world. and soon, by the way, we're going to have a podcast that we're going to talk about something a little more lighthearted than just how completely effed our government is and this world is. We're going to do something. Probably not Bigfoot. What's going to be lighthearted? I don't know. We're going to do something that's fun and whatever.
Starting point is 01:27:08 Maybe we'll do ghost stories or it'll be like some eerie cool thing. And by the way, if you guys have any ghost stories or UFO stories, if you have any UFO sightings, any weird experiences, Send it to us. Facebook. Yeah, send it to us on Facebook. And maybe when we do that podcast, so just talking about eerie stories, send us a story. We'll read your story online and let people hear it.
Starting point is 01:27:33 But guys, this is a song we started with. We're going to end it with. And thank you guys also very much for listening to Investing Earth Podcast tonight. And until next time, peace out. Peace out. It's been hard. It's been tough, feeling sad.
Starting point is 01:27:58 It's been hard. In America Never thought it'd get so bad Wish that I had a big jet plane Fly the tears away Maybe I'd find a river So I left away But it seemed
Starting point is 01:28:36 Tumbled through precious town Hard to sing The Sand Thro It's hard to speak In America

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.