Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Midnight Hammer & the 12‑Day War | U.S., Israel, Iran War | What Now?
Episode Date: June 24, 2025In this breaking episode, we dive deep into Operation Midnight Hammer—the U.S.-led airstrikes on Iran’s nuclear facilities that sent shockwaves through the Middle East. With B-2 bombers unleashing... bunker-busting bombs on key sites like Fordow and Natanz, the world watched as tensions soared. But now, just days later, a surprise ceasefire between Israel and Iran has been announced—brokered by Qatar and confirmed by President Trump. Should the U.S. be fighting Israel’s wars? Are we looking at peace or just a pause before something bigger? Chad and Sheri breaks it all down—from military strategy and global fallout to the political divide here at home. This episode pulls no punches.Check out our merch store: https://investigateearthstore.com
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I'm your host, shout alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry.
On tonight's episode, we're talking about a seismic shift.
The U.S. has launched airstrikes on Iran's nuclear facilities,
joining Israel in a military escalation that could reshape the Middle East
in a covert operation dubbed Operation Midnight Hammer,
7 B-2 stealth bombers flew 18 hours nonstop from Missouri, refueled midair, and unleashed
14, 30,000-pound bunker-busting MOP bombs backed by Tomahawk missile barrages from submarines
targeting Ferdal, Natanz, and Ishran nuclear facilities and sites.
U.S. officials held it as a stunning tactical success, but Iran called it a diplomatic
bombshell, threatening retaliation, and even closing the Strait of Hermas.
Now the question dominating tonight's show, should America,
escalate further in a war tied to Israel's survival and what fractures are growing at home between
those back in the military might and those warning against yet another endless war in the Middle
East.
Guys, welcome to the show.
It is June the 23rd, 2025.
The name of that song is Drums of War by Rob Sin Carver.
We played that song on the show so many times because it seems like that wars are everywhere
and especially the last four years where we had the Ukraine and Russia situation.
We also had a conflict in Syria.
then obviously October 7th happened where Israel was attacked by Hamas then Israel had a huge retaliate
I guess retaliatory action or campaign against the Gaza Strip and there was a lot of people that have
come out kind of against Israel on how they responded in the Gaza Strip but then you had also Iran
which was according to many sources were funding groups like Hezbollah they were funding groups like the Houthis
and Hamas.
And from what everybody says that Israel is doing this because Iran is one of the biggest
backstate terror funders in the entire world.
And so we're going to talk about all that.
But there's also a lot of, I guess, conspiracy around this as well.
And then you have Russia and you have China starting to talk a little bit.
They're starting to say things like, hey, maybe we're going to help Iran.
And in what way you'll just have to wait and see.
But this is going to be a very interesting episode.
we are a little late to the show on this.
Don't get me wrong.
We have been, you know, we tried to do an episode last night.
It did not work exactly.
I'm sure that none of you could guess why.
But it's going to work way, way better tonight.
Listen, I got hot and heavy last night because it is very personal to me, as everyone knows.
And it's personal to everyone.
And, you know, a lot of times our opinions are not the same.
Yeah, for sure.
And we have to agree to disagree at times.
but it's just hard when I hear opinions that are so far different than mine on a podcast that is my podcast.
It's just hard to keep my cool, I guess.
So I do apologize for the lateness and we're going to kind of try to keep it even kill.
I am exhausted from feelings and emotions all day.
So we're going to go with it the way that we need to, the right way.
Nobody wants to hear anybody bicker and fight.
and, you know, everyone has their own opinion,
and I'm not going to change Chad's opinion,
just like Chad's not going to change my opinion.
Yeah, for sure.
Well, let's just get into briefly what happened, right?
So it was Operation Midnight Hammer.
The U.S. launched a precision airstrike dubbed Operation Midnight Hammer,
targeting three major Iranian nuclear facilities, Fordow, Natanz, and Ischon.
The assets that were used were B2 stealth spirit bombers deployed from Whiteman
Air Force Base in Missouri,
with decoy missions via the Pacific,
and they were dropping GBU 57,
or also known as massive ordinance penetrators.
Several Tomahawk cruise missiles launched from submarines against Natanz and Ischvan.
The U.S. officials called it the largest B-2 operational strike in U.S. history,
with extremely severe damage inflicted.
President Trump described it as a spectacular military success,
claiming the facilities were completely and totally obliterated.
Defense Secretary Pete Hegas stated that the mission targeted Iran's nuclear weapons capabilities, not the regime itself.
And then the IAEA reported that there has been no detectable rise in radiation and no new radioactive leaks.
Iranian state media said that uranium had been preemptively removed, minimizing last in harm.
Radiation monitors showed no danger to citizens.
And so then there's all the reaction and context with this, the international community, the UN Secretary General Guterres,
the strikes a dangerous escalation and a perilous turn.
Russia and China urged restraint.
European leaders, UK, France, Germany, EU issued calls for diplomacy and expressed serious
concern.
And then Iran and regional, the Iran's foreign minister, condemn the strikes as violations
of international law, promising everlasting consequences and reserved right to respond.
No Iranian fighter response detected.
Pentagon confirmed the bombers exited undetected.
Iran's parliament is considering closing the strait of
Parmas, which I don't know yet that they have done that for certain, but they have definitely
been talking about this.
And this is a vital global oil transit route.
Just today, I think it was.
Trump came out and urged big oil.
You know, we've talked about big pharma, you know, big tech, all of that.
But there is big oil.
And so he did urge all of big oil not to raise the prices just because of what happened, right?
And a lot of times big oil will do that in anticipation for maybe a straight being closed.
I think there is 2 to 3% of the world's oil supply, especially two places like the United
States and Europe that come out of that straight.
So Trump did come out today and say, look, big oil, do not raise prices, do not fall into
the enemy's hands.
He's talking obviously here about Iran.
Obviously, Iran is wanting to close this straight, which, you know, exports tons of oil
across the world.
And, you know, when I think about this as well, you know, this really would hurt Iran.
If they close this straight, it's not just hurting the people that, I guess, in large part, depend on some of this oil.
But really, the person that it would or the person, the country that would be hurting the most by closing this straight and closing off your oil supply to the world would be you.
It would be Iran.
So this whole thing has been wild, right?
We obviously know about October 7th.
We know what happened with that.
We, Sherry and I have debated, you know, kind of the specifics around October 7th, whether Israel knew about.
October 7th before October 7th happened.
You know, the Jerusalem Post had a post back in a day that said, you know, Israel had whistleblowers.
They had IDF documents that came out and they knew potentially even up to the day that it was
going to happen.
That has obviously been debated, but you do have their Jerusalem Post.
It is a trusted news source, at least from what many of the, many of what I have read,
Jerusalem Post is pretty unbiased.
They're more for Israel than they are anything.
but I think their journalism post tries to kind of tell stories like journalists are supposed to
for the people, not for the government.
And so therefore they ran that story back after, it was probably like four or five months
after October 7th happened.
And then obviously Benjamin Netanyahu, he has some issues in Israel as well.
He's been in power for quite a while.
He is up on charges for corruption and fraud and some of these other things.
There have been protests inside of Israel.
They protested Benjamin at Yahoo.
There's been protest about also maybe the way that Israel handled some of the
Hosh's negotiations.
But we also have to remember on the other side, you know, Iran.
Iran since the 70s has been a totalitarian dictatorship.
They have been a state sponsor of terror and one of the biggest state sponsor of terror
in the Middle East of any country.
We have known that for a very long time.
And the reality of it is, is that Iran, especially after Barack Obama,
our president gave them multi millions.
I think it was actually billions of dollars where we sent over on C-17 aircraft in the
middle of the night pallets of cash money to Iran.
And this was supposedly to maybe attempt to stop their nuclear program by giving them money,
which makes zero sense to me still to this day.
So then after that, I think it was maybe Trump in 2016 that stopped the funding to Iran.
basically froze everything. He sanctioned them. He did what he could to try to take the money
out of the hands of Iran. And so then once President Joe Biden won, it was probably about
two months before October 7th occurred that President Joe Biden unfroes all of the money that Iran
had access to or didn't have access to, I guess, during Trump's presidency, then given them
all of these multi-millions and billions of dollars to then potentially fund Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis.
You know, you can get a conspiracy around that all day.
Like, was that kind of coordinated or not?
We don't know, but at the very least, we do know that Joe Biden unfroes the money.
Therefore, giving funding to these proxy groups like Hezbollah and Houthis and Hamas.
And therefore, it gave them funding to potentially carry out attacks in not only Israel,
but also just kind of throughout the region.
This was going to allow them to bolster their support in the region,
whether it was against Israel or U.S. bases in the region.
But this whole thing is weird to me, right?
Every single day that we've been listening to these news stories,
it just doesn't make a lot of sense.
This in a lot of ways, Sherry, I feel like has fractured the MAGA community,
the Make America Great Again community.
There has been at least half of people.
that voted for President Trump that has come out against these attacks in Iran.
They have come out and said, we do not want to get involved in another war.
We don't ever want boots on the ground in Iran.
We don't want a regime change, not necessarily because we think the Iran's regime is great.
It's just that we should not be putting our nose where it doesn't belong.
And also, I guess at least half of MAGA also feels like we're fighting this war more for Israel,
rather than, you know, the danger that Iran may hold on the United States of America.
I just want to back up real quick and just mention the October 7th incident if Israel knew about it or not is beside the point because the point is Hamas came in and attacked Israel.
That was the catalyst of this whole thing.
If they would have never came in, even if Israel did know, they still made that choice to go into Israel and attack the citizens of Israel.
Israel and they knew they were going to be retaliated on. Yes, people don't agree with how Israel's
gone about it. You know, some people say that Israel had put down pamphlets and told people to get
out of these regions before they're bombing because Hamas is using their people as shields,
which, you know, I think is incredibly like the worst thing that any terrorist group could do,
but obviously they're a terrorist group. They're going to do whatever they want to because they don't
care about their own people.
Yeah.
Where I think a lot of people around the world do care about these people, including
Israel.
I think people do care about them.
Nobody wants to see babies blown up and legs all over the place and bodies all over the
place.
Nobody wants to see that.
And I basically pretty much just all day, I've almost like felt this huge depression
about it because nobody wants to see anyone die or hurt, and especially children.
That's what we don't want.
So I just wanted to remind you, regardless of.
of what the post said. The point is Hamas chose to make that attack and then they retaliated. Yeah,
if you don't agree with the way they retaliated, that's fine. We can make points there. And then moving
forward, you know, this whole thing with our past administration, they've basically funded Iran
who hates America and hates Israel. And our only ally in the Middle East is Israel. And it's kind of like,
Chad, if you and I were to go to a bar one night and we're drinking, some guy just starts
shit with you, I'm going to have your back because that's what I'm supposed to do.
I am your ally.
I'm your buddy system.
And I would hope that you would do the same for me.
Well, you know.
And I think that's what we have to remember in this thing.
It's not all just about Israel.
And you can take the government aside.
And I'm just going to say the prime minister because I always mess up his name.
Bibi.
Yeah.
B.
You can put Bibi aside.
And, you know, everyone talks.
about how corrupt he is and how he's this and that.
Well, look at our president.
He has 34 felonies and they're ridiculous felonies.
We don't even know how correct these crimes he supposedly have committed are.
We don't know.
But all I know is that we have to stay with Israel because they are our ally.
And, you know, these people in the Trump MAGA, I guess, situation, the people that are turning away for Trump, I just, in my opinion, I feel like they're making a huge.
They're thinking the wrong way about this.
You can't just, you can't just vote for a president and say, well, he said he wanted no wars and know this and know that.
But he knows what's going on behind closed doors.
We have no idea what's actually going on.
If we do, we're all idiots because they know what's going on.
And maybe he had a strategic plan in hopes of causing peace through strength.
And that's what I'm thinking.
and that's why I'm still standing by Trump.
And I still, he has my vote.
And I, you know, I look up to him and I cherish him as our president.
I think he's making right decisions for America.
He's looking at American safety.
You think about Iran?
Nobody wants them to have nuclear weapons.
They can say the same thing about Israel.
But Israel is not going to use nuclear weapons against the United States.
Iran would.
And if it is a target on America and there is a threat to America,
Trump has to get rid of that threat.
Yeah, and it sounds like, you know, with these attacks, Operation Hammer, you know, was a success.
At least that is what the Trump administration is saying.
Now, we're going to get into some of the conspiracy a little bit around some of that, right?
There is a lot of stuff that happened today, which we will not talk about quite yet.
But Iran did retaliate, quote unquote, today in Qatar, which is where one of our biggest
Middle Eastern bases is located.
and there are actually many videos out there showing our U.S. service members video in
when Iran was sending in missiles into or near where this base was, the base did not get hit in
Qatar anyway.
I think there was one base somewhere else that may have suffered minimal damage, but, you know,
we did know that the service members were recording this.
They had the anti-missile anti-aircraft fire that was going up and meeting these missiles in the air,
blowing them up.
Iran has since said that we did communicate with the United States before our retaliatory strikes
to let them know that we have to retaliate.
But just so you guys know, we don't really necessarily want anyone to get hurt or killed.
It's almost like they're saying that we just don't want to look like a bunch of pussies around the world.
So we're going to have to do something.
And before we do it, we're going to make sure you guys know about it.
So you're fully prepared.
And that's also part of some of the conspiracy that people are.
going to start talking about.
Andrew Tate had a video, which we'll play in just a little bit.
You got to think about that stuff because it's like, why, even though, yes, we did
drop, you know, 30,000 pound bombs, which are bunker buster missiles or bombs.
On facilities, not civilians.
Yeah, of course not on civilians.
But in this region, most of this area in these nuclear facilities obviously was already
evacuated beforehand.
I mean, they had to have known this was likely coming.
and I do personally think that there was a lot of communication in this whole thing.
It is very strange how this whole thing worked out.
Yeah, it is.
You had everyone that went from, you know, loving and supporting Trump to where there was a 40% fraction of people that started to recant maybe why they voted for Trump.
They said, you know, this guy's going to be the president of peace and he's going to be all these things.
And then, of course, this is his last term and he's going to start striking places in Iran.
Now, I think what a lot of people thought, you know, Tucker Carlson being one of them, you know, that explosive interview with Ted Cruz where Ted Cruz can't, you know, he came on, he was, in my opinion, so unprepared to interview with Tucker Carlson that day.
Yeah, Tucker did destroy him, unfortunately.
And if you are a politician, you better know your facts.
Yeah, of course.
I mean, you know, because you're, you're coming on Tucker Carlson.
Tucker Carlson's asking Ted Cruz, number one, like, do you even know the population?
of Iran?
And he's like, well, I mean, no, not necessarily.
And, you know, he's like, so what you're saying is that you don't know the population
or even the demographic makeup of Iran.
And he actually asked that that was the next question.
Ted Cruz is like, well, you know, I know some of there are Persians or whatever.
And he's like, so you don't know any of these things, but you're calling for regime change
in Iran.
Obviously, you should know what the population of a country is.
You're calling for technically a war or at least a military action.
on a country that you don't know shit about and you are a sitting politician, like you should
know this stuff.
And then when they got into the talk of funding from AAC, Israel, and how much that A PAC influences
the United States politicians, which has been a very, very contentious subject for a long
time.
It goes back to JFK.
JFK was one of the main presidents in our lifetime or in some people's lifetime.
JFK was actually before my lifetime.
But in some of our lifetimes, JFK was pressuring APAC in Israel to register as a foreign agent, a foreign lobbying group.
And people did not like that because that if you register as a foreign lobby or a foreign agent or whatever the case is, it restricts basically every way, shape, and form for you to be able to support or influence United States politics based on money.
That is why that was such a huge deal.
because in Israel's mind, it was like, well, shit, now we're not going to be able to fund the politicians.
We want in power to make sure that whatever best benefits us as Israel and our big brother, the United States,
we're going to make sure that we can, you know, we can have that big brother.
It's kind of like this.
If you go in a bar and going back to your bar reference, Sherry, if you go in a bar and you're this short little skinny dude, right?
and you go and start starting shit with people and you're by yourself,
you're probably not going to do that.
But what if you just happen to have John Jones,
which is like one of the greatest UFC fighters ever,
which also just retired.
And I think he got arrested like the day after he retired, which is weird.
But John,
John Bones Jones or say Kabib or whoever,
imagine you walk in a bar with him now.
And then you're probably more likely to go around starting shit because you're like,
well, look, dude, if some shit really starts,
I got John Jones or I got Kabim here.
That is what a lot of people feel like Israel has done because Israel has the support, has complete control in some ways.
Many people believe of many politicians in the United States government.
Therefore, they can get away with shit that they would not otherwise get away with.
And so they always say, well, it's because everyone wants to attack us.
Is that the case?
I don't know.
Well, they are in the Middle East.
And they are, we're not going to talk about religion tonight, but they are the only state that is.
Jewish religion and everyone else around them is mainly Muslim with some Christians.
With decreased amount of Christians.
But going back to your point, I do agree that APEC does influence American politics.
And I don't think it's a place for it unless they were registered as a foreign entity,
because that's what they are.
They are not from United States.
They are from Israel.
But I also feel like they are backing us because they are.
because they're our strongest ally as we are their strongest ally.
And I don't like the fact that they're influencing our politics.
No, and they are.
And that was one of the big contentious things, obviously, with the Tucker Carl's interview,
is like, hey, Tedgers, how much have you actually, because Ted was like, no, I'm not,
I'm not supporting Israel because they give people money in A PAC.
And then Tucker's like, how much has AAC given you, whatever?
And he throws up like $1.8 million or something.
And he's like, okay, there you go.
And then Tucker Carlson went to a Christian gathering or gala.
No, not Tucker.
I mean, sorry, Ted Cruz.
Yeah.
And this was, I think, the day after the Tucker Carlson interview, he goes to this Christian
gathering where there's a lot of Christians in this room.
And as he comes out on stage, he's getting booed.
I mean, booed like you've never heard before.
And so then Ted Cruz to end his speech at this Christian gala or gala.
And I'm literally taking that word because,
Nick was at a gala the other day.
And so I'm literally just inserting it.
I don't know what, I have no idea what Ted Cruz is at.
It was a, it was a meeting or like a ball.
Maybe what can we call it a ball?
Yeah, a ball.
A Christian ball.
But anyways, at the end, Ted Cruz says, if you don't stand with Israel, then I don't stand
with you.
And he was like pointing at the Christian audience.
And I'm like, that's a way to get them on your side, isn't it?
Yeah, it's not.
And honestly, Ted Cruz is probably going to be ousted.
He's not likely going to win.
re-election. And the reality of this, too, and we're going to get into like the details of the
war or the strikes and what this may mean for the future and what their conspiracies are around
this. But I think the problem is, is that a lot of people, especially conservatives and Republicans,
that are usually more Christian than not, when they see a foreign lobby group like APAC that has so
much influence over the politicians that are over them as Christians and as Americans, they have
an issue with that. Now, for a very long time, no Christians have ever really questioned anything.
It wasn't really until October 7th. And then in the Internet, where everybody started coming
out of the woodwork, exposing any and everything that Israel had a part in in the United States or
you know, whatever, there was a lot of Christians that just also happened to be on the conservative
maga side that saw all these videos. And we're talking about videos from Nick Fuentes. We're talking
about videos from Ian Carroll, which was a huge one. We've had them on a show many times. We're
talking about videos also from now Candace Owens. Candice Owens was never really involved in religious
type conversations forever. She was just someone that was pro-conservative. She was a black
female that was going against what she felt like her community always continually voted Democrat.
And so that was her big thing.
Her big thing was like, I need to, as a black woman in America, I need to stand up for
what I believe in as a conservative and why I believe those things and why I believe that
Democrat Party does not benefit the black community.
And so that was really how Candace Owens got huge.
So she then went to The Daily Wire, which is Ben Shapiro.
And then after October 7th, everything changed at the Daily Wire.
Daily Wire was chugging along.
They were making shit tons of money.
Every one of their influencers, including Candice Owens, was just killing it.
And then October 7th happened and there was a fraction.
There was a fraction in the Daily Wire.
You had people like Candice Owens, and I think there were a couple others.
I can't remember their names, but two or three others that were more pro-Christian, obviously, the pro-Jew.
but there was never really a debate or huge conversation against Christians or Jews until October 7th.
Well, I think when Candace said that Jesus was our king, I think it's kind of,
yeah, that it kind of ticked Ben Shapiro off and it fractioned their whole podcast thing going on.
And I think in times...
And you know what, you know what Candace Owens by saying that Jesus was king was called, was anti-Semitic,
which is crazy.
I don't know.
And at times, I think that happens with our podcast when we,
disagree. It does cause a rift in relationships outside of the podcast. So we have to be very careful
with the way we discuss these things that we don't agree with because, you know, Ben and Candace aren't
married. We are. And so we have to stay on a track where we have to agree to disagree,
but not go so far over that it just splits up everything we have because we worked very hard for
this podcast. And it's you and I that have built this podcast together.
And so I think that that's why we both are kind of trying to come to the middle and agree to disagree, but also discuss in ways that it's not hurting each other.
No, I agree.
No, I 100% agree.
And I know so many listeners are listening right now, you guys are, there's probably half of you on Sherry's side as far as the subject.
If you've listened to us for any amount of time, you're probably more on the pro-Israel side than I am.
And I'm sure there are also people that are more on my side than the pro-Israel.
Israel side. And so we understand that. And this is a community. And we're always continually
learning as we go because we always think we know everything. I go back to when I was a Christian
growing up and I'm not going to go into a storyline of this. But, you know, a Christian growing up because
of my family made me go to church or my mom. And then as I got older, I started being like,
I don't even believe in this anymore. And it wasn't until the podcast and I started doing my own
research that I started to come to my own conclusions. And so all I'm saying is I'm always learning. I'm
always trying to figure out what the reality of the situation is.
We literally just had an ex-space the night before last.
And there was people on there asking me, well, Chad, what do you think about this strike?
Who do you think is in the right?
What do you think?
Should we have done this?
Should we be protecting Israel?
Should we be doing all these things?
And it's just so hard now for me to actually answer to that in a way that I would be truthful about my answer, I guess, because I'm still so undisely.
decided on so many things. There are definitely things I agree wholeheartedly on and which I'm not
going to go into on this particular episode. But, and I do think that, that people, there is a
great awakening on so many sides right now. And I think that, um, not just the Christian side or the
conservative side or not even just a conservative side, the libertarian side, where there are more
libertarians being born right now, newly born libertarians that are almost just completely done with the
government because they're starting to think and feel that, hey, you know what, I voted for Trump.
And we're going to get into this.
I voted for Trump because he said no war, know this, know that.
And yet I seems like I'm being lied to again by someone that I put so much of faith into.
And there are a lot of people that in some ways today feel betrayed.
Now, after what we talk about in just a little bit as far as what happened today,
will your mind change?
Like, will your mind change based on as of right now what has been maybe agreed to will
getting into that.
But yeah,
go ahead.
And I just want to say that I feel the same way as you do that through this podcast,
I'm constantly learning.
I'm changing.
My mind is synthesizing.
And I have a deep inner connection with something in my heart that I just hold
on to.
And it tugs.
It tugs hard,
you know,
especially when we talk about religion.
And,
you know,
everyone on our telegram group knows that I go through some severe
emotional roller coasters with this.
They've seen it, they've heard it.
And that's the way it is.
But, you know, we're always growing and changing.
But as far as our opinions about Trump, I think Chad's opinions have always kind of fluctuated
with Trump.
He's been like, I don't like this part.
I like this part.
I don't like this part.
And I have been like 100% Trump.
I support him.
I support the decisions he make.
He makes.
And I'm still standing by that.
I still support Trump on the decisions.
Yes, he ran on his, what's the word?
Peace through strength.
Yeah, peace through strength.
No wars.
I want peace around the world.
And he has been negotiating a lot of peace around the world.
He's negotiated deals like with what Pakistan and in Africa.
There's all kinds of places.
Yeah, it was the Pakistan Indian Indian, India War that was going to happen.
And even Pakistan came out as like, well, we should nominate him for a Nobel Peace Prize, which is crazy because Pakistan's in that region.
They are also, by the way, a nuclear power in that area.
But the question is going to be from this is like what Trump did with these attacks on Iran facilities?
Will it go down as a win or loss?
And that's what we're going to talk about.
I want to get to real quick Trump's video when he actually came out and addressed the nation at 10 p.m.
This was about three or four nights ago.
And I want to play that because obviously we're talking about this as we go.
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In the past two days, we have two videos that we've posted.
I mean, it's not necessarily me talking, but I'm just trying to kind of figure out the
Instagram algorithm.
So we get two videos.
One of them is at 4.5 million.
views right now and one of them is like 3.8 and then there's a lot of other ones that have 200, 300,
400,000 but I'm trying to utilize Instagram for whatever is breaking like whatever's breaking right
now. Let's post the videos. Let's get them out there. So make sure you go follow us on Instagram and also
on X for like we talk and just, you know, we'll do X spaces over there. But we do have telegram.
I want to make sure we mention that. We have a telegram. If you guys do not know what telegram is,
it is an app. We have live chats on there.
we just shoot the shit we talk about future podcast episodes
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and many times you guys do not hear us on this show
we're probably on telegram live talking to our people
about what's happening what does everybody think
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an opinion on some of the things that's happening
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there are some of our most loyal and loving people that we have there
And so come join us.
We welcome you with open arms.
And everybody over there is so cool.
Oh, yeah, they are.
They've become like our closest friends, like realistically because we talk to them almost every night.
But I wanted to ask you, did you post Iran's new Air Force yet?
Well, I did.
Yeah, on Instagram I did.
You guys need to go check out that video.
If you need a little laugh, it is kind of funny.
Yeah, it's, I did post, you know, insane footage of Iran's latest and greatest fighter jet.
So you guys can go check that out on Instagram.
Investigator with podcasts.
All of our stuff is Investigator with podcast, by the way.
So if you go to Telegram, just look up Investigator's Conspiracy Podcasts.
You'll find it over there.
But let's go ahead and get into the Trump video.
It's address the nation.
It's very short.
But I just at least want to play this because this was the context right after that the United States struck Iran.
And by the way, that cost like us.
I think it was like $100 something million dollars for that operation, which is not cheap.
but B-2 bombers and all those bombs that we just dropped wasn't cheap at all.
Someone made a lot of money.
Here you go.
Thank you very much.
A short time ago, the U.S. military carried out massive precision strikes on the three key nuclear facilities in the Iranian regime, Fordot, Natanz, and Esfahan.
Everybody heard those names for years as they built this hard.
horribly destructive enterprise. Our objective was the destruction of Iran's nuclear enrichment
capacity and a stop to the nuclear threat posed by the world's number one state sponsor of
terror. Tonight, I can report to the world that the strikes were a spectacular military success.
Iran's key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely and totally obliterated. Iran, the
bully of the Middle East must now make peace. If they do not, future attacks will be far greater
and a lot easier. For 40 years, Iran has been saying death to America, death to Israel.
They have been killing our people, blowing off their arms, blowing off their legs with roadside bombs.
That was their specialty. We lost over a thousand people, and hundreds of thousands throughout
the Middle East and around the world have died as a direct result of their hands.
in particular, so many were killed by their general, Qasem Soleimani.
I decided a long time ago that I would not let this happen. It will not continue.
I want to thank and congratulate Prime Minister, Bibi Netanyahu.
We worked as a team like perhaps no team has ever worked before,
and we've gone a long way to erasing this horrible threat to Israel.
I want to thank the Israeli military for the wonderful job they've done.
And most importantly, I want to congratulate the great American patriots who flew those magnificent machines tonight
and all of the United States military on an operation, the likes of which the world has not seen in many, many decades.
Hopefully we will no longer need their services in this capacity.
I hope that so.
I also want to congratulate the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,
General Dan Raisin-Kane, spectacular general, and all of the brilliant military minds involved in this attack.
With all of that being said, this cannot continue.
There will be either peace or there will be tragedy for Iran far greater than we have witnessed over the last eight days.
Remember, there are many targets left.
Tonight was the most difficult of them all, by far, and perhaps the most lethal.
but if peace does not come quickly, we will go after those other targets with precision, speed, and skill.
Most of them can be taken out in a matter of minutes.
There's no military in the world that could have done what we did tonight, not even close.
There has never been a military that could do what took place just a little while ago.
Tomorrow, General Kane, Secretary of Defense, Pete Higgseth, will have a press conference at 8.
at the Pentagon. And I want to just thank everybody. And in particular, God, I want to just say,
we love you, God, and we love our great military, protect them. God bless the Middle East.
God bless Israel. And God bless America. Thank you very much.
There you go. And I do want to start this off by saying the things that we have to take from
this strike outside of, you know, partisan lines, outside of should the United States,
States be involved with Israel like they are and all these things.
Let's just make something very clear.
The United States has made a very clear statement to the world with Iran.
And I think that it's very interesting because we've always kind of looked at Iran.
You know, when you think about screwing with Iran, we've heard this for so long.
And we've heard this from Obama.
We've heard this from Biden where we cannot ever strike Iran because they have nuclear
potential, they have strong military, they have elite aviation group, which I have on Instagram.
If you guys want to go check that out.
You know, it was always like fearmonger, and especially from one particular party saying,
you don't need to ever screw with Iran.
And so for a lot of Americans and a lot of their minds, a lot of us just believe that Iran
was this powerhouse in the Middle East.
They were like the America of the Middle East, although I think the Israel technically is
the powerhouse in the Middle East.
So I think we have kind of come to that conclusion over and over again, whether it's their intelligence agencies, their military, their weapons capabilities, their defense capabilities, all of that.
There's really no one in the Middle East in reality that compares to Israel as far as their power.
But a lot of people did believe that, you know, Israel could not possibly do an attack or a all-out war with Iran.
And I actually think differently.
You know, my brother asked him earlier, I said, you know, what do you think about this? And he said,
he said, well, the reality is like if Israel could have continued to carry out whatever, because they did attack Iran, regardless of however we look at this, that is what instigated Iran themselves directly to be fighting Israel.
So it was no longer Hezbollah, Hamas, and Houthis. It was now a direct conflict between Iran and Israel.
And that has come because Israel attacked inside of Iran. Also, they attacked by what.
way of sending in the IDF, probably Mossad as well, where they were building these drone housing
structures inside of Iran and then using those drones and the structures that were built inside of
the, inside of Iranian territory and then striking their targets from inside of Iran.
So this is not necessarily surprising because if we go back to the pager attack, where, you know,
Mossad intercepted these pagers that Hamas was going to be using.
they then fitted them with explosives inside of the pagers.
So then when this mass page went out, all these pagers blew up and all of these Hamas people, you know, had their legs or groings blown off.
I mean, it was pretty horrific.
It was.
And, you know, just to make a point real quick, I don't have sympathy for people like that, terrorist organizations, terrorist groups.
I do, however, have sympathy for civilians that are getting caught caught in the crossfire.
Yeah, for sure.
but I do think that the United States made a huge statement here and regardless of however we look at it, we're American.
And so the American first thing is always American first.
I care about our troops.
I care about the people that we put in harm's way over anything.
I do not want our soldiers or our aviation or sorry, our pilots or any of those people to be put in harm's way when it's not necessarily directly connected to us.
and I feel like a lot of people also feel that way, especially when we're getting involved in the Iran situation because of Israel, although the United States always wants to say, well, this is because, you know, Iran.
Yeah, Iran is a direct threat to the United States.
And that's all potentially very possible.
But it's also like, you know, Israel and the United States made this kind of, I guess, statement to where they said Iran is so dangerous.
They're so dangerous.
They're so dangerous.
But then we also hear another talking point that's like, they have not done shit.
in basically defense of their country.
Oh, since the attacks, the recent attacks.
Yeah, since Israel attacked them, they've really not flown any aircraft.
They've not had any type of military involvement.
The only thing they've done is launch missiles, which most of those missiles went, you know,
without destruction except for a few cases in Tel Aviv, which is one of Israel's most densely
populated cities.
And so it's just like, what is the truth?
like, are they dangerous or are they not?
And what is the whole plot to this?
Because there is some conspiracy around this.
There's conspiracy number one.
Let's start with this.
So Trump and Pete Hexeth and General Dan Raising Kane.
I mean, that should not be your name as a general, by the way, because that's like a military
industrial complex nickname they've given you.
But when they kind of went in and blew up Iran and all this stuff, I mean,
They said that it was a complete and total obliteration of their nuclear facilities.
Now all of a sudden, we're hearing that Iran has moved their nuclear capabilities.
Their enriched uranium out of that site.
They had done it far in advance of the military strikes.
There's also pictures and videos out there showing a before satellite picture of Fordow,
which was their biggest underground nuclear facility.
This is why we had to use 14, 30,000 pound bunker buster bomb.
to actually be able to essentially drill, drill in and drill in and drill in until it imploded from within.
But if you look at the before picture of the site of Fordow and you look at the second picture, which is the after picture, it looks literally zero different.
I don't see a crater, a massive crater from something that would be like a bunker buster bomb, although they say that it drills in.
So you're not necessarily going to see a massive crater.
But I would think that if it implodes something that some deep underground strong,
it would implode the mountaintop from the top side.
It would almost be like a landslide to some degree.
And we do not see that whatsoever in these before and after pictures of this nuclear facility.
So is it true that we obliterated their nuclear facilities or is it not?
Because especially now, the U.S. government has come out and said, well, we don't technically know where the nuclear is at this point.
Well, that's what I was getting ready to say.
It seems like they are saying now it's the uranium.
has been moved.
Now, has that been planned?
Did Trump plan that with Iran and said, hey, look, we're going to give you a heads up and tell
you what we're going to be bombing.
If you want that stuff out of there, get it out of there.
And we're doing this to stop the war.
I mean, that could be a conspiracy.
Maybe that was a plan all along.
Maybe it was a coordination.
Yeah.
I mean, because we went and bombed these things and we said we did a great job.
It was successful.
But now they're saying, well, did we?
get their uranium. Yeah. Well, here's what our good buddy, Andrew Tate, has to say. I say good
buddy. I'm joking, actually, when I say that, I don't love Andrew Tate that much. I still do not know
what the Andrew Tate deal is. We've done episodes on Andrew Tate. I don't know if that he is in the
matrix as he claims and they are just against him because of what he says. I don't necessarily believe
that, you know, the UK is now after him and filed charges for rape and all this other stuff.
I know that his country he lives in Romania has also done the same thing.
They've been trying to get evidence on him.
So he could be telling the truth.
They could be going after him because he has such a huge influence.
We've seen that with a lot of people.
Trump, Andrew, or sorry, Russell Brand, all these people, although I can imagine Russell
Brand being a whore back in a day because he admits that he used to be.
Right.
But then all of a sudden, when Russell Brand starts coming out and he takes the red pill,
now all of a sudden, the stuff that he did is a problem.
But before that, no, it was not a problem that he did that before.
So it's very interesting.
But here's what Andrew Tate has to say about this whole thing.
It's just a couple of minutes long.
I'm to believe that it is impossible that USA, Israel and Iran, go on a fucking phone call and said,
let's talk about how this is going to go down.
You need to look good.
I need to look good.
You need to look good.
We all need to look good.
So Trump, you get to take out our nuclear facilities.
because you know what, we're not going to make a nuclear bomb anyway.
So if you want to bomb this empty crater somewhere in the mountains,
you get to bomb it and look like a tough guy.
We can't look like pussies after.
So we have to retaliate.
So we're going to retaliate against one of your air bases.
This air base over here.
Please, you know, evacuate the airbase in advance
so that we get to look like tough guys because if we look like pussies,
then there's going to be riots.
and our government's going to change.
We have to look like we're protecting our people.
Israel, you fire rockets at us.
We're going to fire a whole barrage of shit back at you.
But nothing's really going to blow up.
There'll be an odd explosion here or there
in the distance somewhere caught on a camera phone.
But there's not going to be any mass death or destruction.
Where's the thousands of deaths?
I mean, with 50 ballistic missiles
in a city as densely populated as Tel Aviv,
there should be thousands of deaths.
Where are they?
There's none of it.
Yeah.
And that does make some sense, I guess.
But, I mean, it does and it doesn't, right?
I mean, what would be the purpose of that is the question?
Well, what if Israel was in on it as well?
What if Israel, Iran and USA are talking behind the scene saying, hey, we've got to do this like he's saying to make us all look like we're kind of tough.
But this is how we're going to end this because none of us want this.
Well, here's here's my thought on why they would do this.
Number one, the Iranian regime has been a dictatorship and a oppressive regime for many years.
I mean, you can ask almost anybody in Iran, most of those people do not support their regime.
Right.
They do not like the president.
They do not like the leader of Iran.
I know they, Iran's very similar.
Yeah, yeah.
I know that Iran's very similar to Israel to where they have a president and then they have a prime minister.
Yeah.
And they have an exiled prince or king somewhere else that is calling for a regime change.
Yeah, for sure.
But the question here is like it seems like maybe some intelligence agencies have got in the scenes,
got behind the scenes of Iranian government.
And so they have played this whole thing out maybe for regime change,
which was the entire goal to begin with, to where they then install a pro-Western president
or prime minister or whatever the hell they call them in Iran.
They install this pro-Western guy and regime change happens by way of force.
And maybe some of these people in the Iranian government didn't know about this plan, you know, as it played out.
We go back to the president of Iran where they died in a helicopter crash randomly out of the middle of nowhere.
They're flying across, I think, Azerbaijan or wherever that place was.
and they get, I guess, in some type of heavy cloud bank, they crash.
There were videos and stuff that kind of look like this helicopter may have had bullet holes in it.
But the interesting thing to me with that is that Iran came out allegedly and said that there was no conspiracy or no attack on the helicopter.
But, you know, it was just-
We all knew the truth.
Yeah, but it was like, why would Iran come out and say this?
Like, why would they do this?
was this the first move on the chess board to where they had to get rid of this guy.
Maybe he wasn't on board, but some of the regimes change shit.
But it seems like that there is absolutely intelligence agencies that are part in playing a role in this, just like similar to Ukraine, where you have Vladimir Zelensky in power now.
You had a pro-Russian president in power before.
And then you had the coup batar, whatever they call that, 2014, the maiden protest where we had our then-the-C-I-E-Dress.
Right.
where we had our then CIA director go two weeks prior to this uprising of the people in Ukraine
to overthrow the duly elected, at least that's what they say, president in Ukraine, which was
pro-Russian. And then you bring in a pro-Western president, right? This is what the United States
is best at. This is actually what the CIA is best at. They are best at going into other countries
and making regime change, however that may be. And they usually utilize the people through mass
formation psychosis through various means.
And maybe that is what we're seeing here in Iran to where you had a massive show of force
from the United States.
You have all of the people of Iran scared out of their, you know, pants.
And now the people of Iran is like, shit, we need somebody else in.
We're going to do whatever we get to do because we don't want to be nuked or bombed
by the United States.
And that will quickly change people's minds and really start making a, making a
an uprising. I guarantee you, you're going to start seeing an uprising very soon. That will be the next
thing in Iran that we see. It'll be a mass protest where the leader is overthrown. I agree to a point,
but we also have to understand the region of Iran and the democracy there. There is none. It is
like China. It is like North Korea. These people don't have a say in anything. Women are not even
allowed to go outside without wearing one of those hat things. And you know, and you want to talk
about LGBT, whatever the word is.
Thank you.
You know, they hate people like that.
There is no freedom there.
And I'm sure if especially women don't have freedom in Iran, I would, I think that they
would want a government change where they do have freedom and they're not beat to death
because they talk to their man the wrong way or whatever they've done.
And I think that would be a win-win if there was a regime change to help the people of Iran.
because I don't blame the people of Iran.
I blame the terrorist organizations that are in charge of Iran.
Yeah.
And I do agree with that.
I mean, there's no question that some of these Islamic-slash-Muslim countries have very oppressive regimes.
They have very oppressive governments.
And, you know, they all go back and say, it's because of our religion is why that our government is like this.
Now, you could ask yourself and you could talk to yourself about, is the,
or should the United States get involved in a nation like Iran or like Israel or like any of the other nations in the Middle East, especially that they are Muslim.
And although the United States technically is not a, I guess you could say Christian nation, it was founded on Christian principles and beliefs.
But should Christian principles and beliefs nation have any say so in regimes that are in place in other regions, especially if you start talking about is likely because an influence by Israel.
And that is what a lot of people do not agree with, right?
It's, it's very, it's very strange.
And so Marjorie Taylor Green, I want to get to this.
She came out eight hours ago.
Marjorie Taylor Green, for anyone that doesn't know, has been one of the most staunch supporters of Donald Trump throughout his presidency, throughout his campaigns.
And she says here, and we'll talk about this, but I spent millions of my own money and traveled the entire country campaigning for president.
Trump and his MAGA agenda and his promises.
And Trump's MAGA agenda included these key promises.
No more foreign wars, no more regime change, and world peace.
And this is what people voted for.
Only six months in, and we are back into foreign wars, regime change, and World War III.
It feels like a complete bait and switch to please the neocons, war mongers, military industrial
complex contracts, and neocon TV personalities that MAGA hates and who were never
Trumpers. After the bombs were dropped, we were told complete success, and Iran's nuclear capabilities
were totally wiped out. Then it quickly turned into Iran's nuclear facilities partially damaged,
and now it's, we don't know where the enriched uranium actually is. And so she says,
let me be very clear. My children are 22, 25, and 27. I will literally fight anyone for their future.
And their future and their entire generation's future must be free of America's last foreign wars,
that provoke terrorists attacks on our homeland, military drafts, and nuclear war.
I am fighting for them to have a future where they can afford to buy a home, afford insurance,
invest for retirement, enjoy life, retain their God-given freedoms, afford to raise their
family under their Christian faith, and not be in debt, safety, and security, and not have
our own taxpay and funded government destroy at all.
Contrary to brainwash Democrat boomers, think and protest about Trump is not a king,
Maga is not a cult and I can and will do anything I can to make sure it sustains.
And she says, and I can and do have my own opinion as well.
So Marjorie Taylor Green has come out against this.
Obviously, she believes that what Trump is doing right now is completely what he campaigned against.
It is something that his campaign promises promised no more foreign wars, no more none of this.
But there has been some news today.
obviously.
Well, before you say that,
Trump has campaigned on peace through strength.
Just because he went in and bombed an area doesn't mean he's starting a war.
Maybe he's saying peace through strength.
Like don't, you know, like I was saying last night, F-A-F-O, don't do that with us because
we are a very strong country and you're going to lose.
And you don't want to do that.
And I think the Iranians know that.
They know how strong we are.
We just proved it the other night when we went 18 hours there, 18 hours back, and they had no idea.
We were even there unless it was a plan behind closed doors.
Yeah.
It's very interesting.
Now, I don't know if you guys remember Matt Gates.
Matt Gates was a senator.
He was then, I guess, up for, what was it, National Security Advisor, I think, or one of those.
AG.
Yeah, that's right.
Attorney General.
And so Matt Gates did not make it through the process of Attorney General because of, I guess,
he used to be a partier and who knows what all that shit kind of how it went down but
Matt Gates was on the foreign intelligence committee he was on some of these other
intelligence committees and so he now has a spot on OAN news so he has his on show on OAN
and this is what Matt Gates had to say about the current situation what Trump did with
the attacks the Israel United States relationship this whole thing listen and we'll talk about it
the backside.
Israel didn't kick their regime change habit with Iraq or Libya or Syria, it seems.
They need another fix.
But mad, this isn't a regime change war.
It's about Iran's nuclear program.
I wish that were true, but it's not.
Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green opined that maybe Netanyahu is so feisty about regime
change in Iran because he was facing regime change in Israel.
It's not being reported enough that on Thursday,
they held a vote in the Knesset.
And it was only by two votes that Netanyahu won.
If he had lost, they would have had another election in Israel, and the polling shows that he would lose if an election were to occur today.
That vote happened last Thursday.
And then Friday, Israel attacked Iran.
That's why the bombs are falling, and it seems very political.
Here's how you know this isn't about Iran's nuclear program.
We aren't taking these steps to force denuclearization where the threat is higher and the leaders are even crazier.
Take North Korea.
North Korea's nuclear program is a far greater threat to the United States than Iran's.
It is not even close.
I know I've had the briefings.
I was on the House Armed Services Committee for eight years.
Iran has neither the bomb, the delivery service.
system, nor the reeve entry vehicle that you would need for any intercontinental ballistic missile
to launch and reenter orbit. North Korea has all three. North Korea could launch a nuclear weapon
at mainland United States today. And we've probably got the ability to knock it out of the sky,
but Iran can't even get their bird in the air. Iran's death to America chant isn't really my
bag, obviously. But Kim in the Hermit Kingdom points to U.S. cities like Los Angeles,
in San Diego and Seattle on maps, and he openly discusses wiping off major U.S. population centers
from existence?
Of course, we aren't looking to drop 100 bunker busters in the mountains of North Korea.
President Trump took other brilliant diplomatic steps to constrain North Korea's hostilities.
And the same could be done with Iran.
But mad. Iran has kicked out IAEA inspectors.
There could be portions of their nuclear program that are secret.
A nuclear secret in the Middle East.
How about it?
If the world is interested in a secret nuclear program in the Middle East,
there is a country that won't allow any international inspectors.
Israel.
Israel has a nuclear weapon.
Did you know that?
I do.
They allow no inspections.
They are fully secretive and clandestine about it.
And the Americans are fully aware.
You know what?
I don't even blame Israel for this.
If they want to develop a nuclear weapon, if they had the blessing to do so secretly, I'm not in
judgment of that.
But to drag the world into a regime-change war over secret nuclear weapons, when you have secret
nuclear weapons, is a bit hypocritical.
President Trump is the kind of guy who never gives up on a deal.
Throughout his life, he's probably made deals and made lots of money on them, even when
others walked away or didn't see value in a transaction.
So here's a deal.
How about Iran and Israel both give up their secret nuclear weapon programs?
If Trump got that deal, he wouldn't only get the Nobel Peace Prize.
They'd probably name it the Trump Peace Prize forevermore.
Yeah, that's true.
And that's the thing.
I mean, Matt Gates makes some great points.
We have to be very clear that Israel is a nuclear power.
They are a nuclear power, and they do not allow any inspections, which is the IEEA or whatever the hell that synonym is.
but they do not allow any nuclear inspections inside of Israel because Israel is untouchable
as long as the United States grants them the capabilities of power to do whatever
the hell they want to do behind the scenes.
That's what they can do.
But what happens when you build this nuclear power such as Israel?
Well, just think about this for a second.
And so Israel becomes this nuclear power.
Maybe they become a massive nuclear power.
You know, look at Russia.
You know, most people believe that the United States.
United States is the most advanced and the most powerful nation in the world.
And I would probably say that they are.
But when it comes to actual nuclear weapons, they are not.
Russia is the number one powerhouse in the world for nuclear weaponry.
And it's not just the amount of nuclear weapons that Russia has.
It is also the capabilities, the delivery capabilities.
Russia is far more advanced, at least from what we have seen or know, than the United
States, you may ask yourself, why would you say that? Well, let's just go back for a minute.
Over the past four years, the United States, especially under Biden and Harris, they had attempted
some hypersonic delivery system testing. This was off of the West Coast. They did it also in, I
believe, Nevada, some of their test ranges. And almost 80% of these tests failed, these hypersonic
test. And, you know, we think about also Elon Musk, for example. Everybody thinks Elon Musk is
his main goal, his number one thing, his number one agenda is to get to Mars. So he's building these
rockets to get to Mars. But the reality of what maybe Elon Musk is also involved in is to build
weaponry for the United States. There's no question about that. SpaceX is absolutely building
or trying to build the most advanced delivery systems of nuclear warheads in the
world. That is why Elon Musk has to have the most top secret security clearances on the planet.
So, and that's what I always thought was so funny was that when Elon Musk came into Doge to try to expose
fraud and corruption within our government. And then the Democrats went crazy. And they're like,
oh, my God, he's going to have access to our social security numbers. I'm like, dude, do you realize
that this guy literally has one of the most top secret clearances you could possibly have in the
United States government outside of like advanced reverse engineering technology and maybe he even
has those clearances.
We don't know because every time Elon Musk has been asked about aliens, he always says, no,
there's, you know, never seen him, never.
But maybe he has.
And maybe the reason why he has to answer those things is because some of the technology
that SpaceX works on is reverse engineering.
I don't know that for sure.
But if you think about like Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, all these companies that are working on
reverse engineering advanced weapons systems.
And you think that they're doing this secretly, but Elon Musk and SpaceX isn't, especially now, well, at least three months ago, when Elon Musk was tight with Trump, you're sadly mistaken.
So I guess what I'm-
Well, that's a whole conspiracy in itself as well.
Yeah.
I don't even think that's the truth.
But anyways, go ahead.
But so I guess my whole premise to this is that what happens, though, when the, sorry, when Israel becomes a hostile nation to the, you know,
United States if that ever happens.
What happens when and if that happens?
And it could happen because we don't ever know what president is going to be in power.
We also don't know how things will shake up eventually in our political scene to where
maybe APEC no longer has the influence that they have now.
And so say that you kick out A PAC from U.S. politics, which I think for sure we should do,
then what happens?
What happens when the United States is not no longer obligated, especially because now,
Now you're having politicians that have these grassroots funding campaigns to be put into office outside of Israel's influence.
And so you start having all these politicians that start saying, you know what, Israel, we ain't protecting you anymore.
We're not this, we're not that.
We're not doing that shit anymore.
And then Israel says, well, you know what?
Then we're your enemy now.
That could easily very well happen.
Chad, can we go back to the bar for a moment?
Yeah, go ahead.
Okay.
We're married.
You're a big brother.
I'm a little brother.
we are allies you have a weapon you want me to have a weapon to protect you and vice versa
we're not talking about a divorce we're talking about how to stay married and how to keep
this relationship forward going forward but if i get what you're saying if you change and become
an asshole husband then i would probably want to use my weapon against you but would i do that
yeah probably you think i would shoot you no i mean i'm saying but this that's how it's so much
different is because we're talking about countries and powerhouses.
We're also talking about an Israel state that has advanced intelligence.
But Chad, throughout the United States history, we've always been allies with Israel.
Yeah, but I think that's going to change.
I don't think that's going to ever change.
I do think it is.
And I especially think that now.
I think that, you know, like Trump came out and announced, what an amazing team, Israel and
America are together.
Yeah.
You know, if we have a change in our administration and it's like far left Democrats, I still think that there's going to be a bond.
There is going to be that they are our allies.
I don't think that will ever change.
And that's why I don't really care if Israel has a nuclear weapon or not because I feel like that is our ally.
And I don't think that's ever going to change.
Okay.
So here's my opinion on Israel for those that hate Israel or whatever, right?
look, I've said this before.
I'm Christian.
I believe in Jesus.
Obviously, Jews do not.
But outside of that, what we have to understand is that there's been a lot of confusion
and people to ask questions of why in the hell are we supposed to supposedly always support Israel?
I don't think necessarily in my mind that we support Israel because of the Bible or biblically
because that's just bullshit.
And there's no way.
And if you're a Christian and if you really dive deep into what the Bible actually says about
it, you know, the chosen people will become.
the church no longer Israel.
But the reality of that is, is that the United States utilizes Israel in my mind as like
a, a, no, a Ukraine.
They're doing the same thing.
Like a proxy?
Yeah, they're essentially a proxy.
You think about all the other countries in the Middle East.
And then you think about Israel.
However that relationship started, well, it did start.
Israel became a state in 1948 on the back of Rothschild.
And so when Israel became a state, was this a.
power move from the west and the United States to then create essentially a little United States
in the middle of the shit in the Middle East.
That's kind of probably what happened, which is why you may ask yourself, well, why would Israel
be able to get away with having nuclear weapons, but yet no one else in the Middle East can.
Iran can't, well, Pakistan does because they created it.
But I think it's because we're utilizing Israel in ways that you can't even imagine, but also
it's like Massad, although Massad is one of the most advanced intelligence agencies in a world.
But they work with the CIA.
Yeah.
And there's not everything that we know about Mossad and there's not everything they know about the CIA.
I do think that, you know, for example, there has definitely been spying happening from Mossad inside of the United States.
I'm sure that also happens inside of Israel from the CIA.
And, you know, there was someone that I can't even remember who was saying this.
It was like.
Tucker Carlson.
Yeah, it was Tucker.
It's like, well, if it's your greatest ally.
why are you spying on us?
Like you should tell me like why you are able to spy on us and we're your greatest
ally because Mossad definitely does that.
And so when even when I say things when I say that.
Well, it's kind of like a husband and a wife thing.
Like I think you might be talking to somebody else.
I'm going to check your phone at night.
It's kind of that same thing.
Maybe.
I don't know.
I don't know if that's true or not necessarily.
But either way, should we play quickly?
well okay actually I want to play Owen
Sawyer he's with Info Wars but we'll play
you know he he had this post and he says is Maga
dead after this and then we're going to get into what happened
today but let's go with Owen now look I do respect
Owen I think that he
even over Alex Jones I mean he is under Info Wars
and he is under Alex Jones and there's been times
that Owen has disagreed with Alex Alex
Alex has also obviously always
been a very staunch Trump supporter.
He has direct lines to Trump.
He talks to Trump and his team very often, but Alex did actually kind of come out.
He gave a message to President Trump by way of Steve, Steve Bannon, which Steve Bannon is also highly connected to Trump's team.
And so his message three days ago said, Trump, here's my message for you.
Please do not strike Iran.
We do not need to do this.
We do not need to do that.
Whatever.
Well, it was like the next day, I think.
the United States struck Iran.
And then everyone was like, oh, look, you know, Steve Ben and Alex Jones supposedly has this
direct line of communication with Trump.
And Trump's going to listen to everything they say.
But obviously, they didn't listen to anything Alex Jones said.
But I don't even think Alex Jones knows what's going behind closed doors or going on.
I mean, I'm sure he doesn't.
I mean.
There is a reason for everything in Trump's mind.
And his number one priority is peace through strength.
And I think that's what he really means.
I know he wants the world.
to be safe and to be free of wars.
And we have to remember when he came into presidency, the second term, there's wars going on
everywhere.
Like he's been just thrown this thing and say, fix it.
It's not going to be fixed overnight.
And he's going to have strategies to fix these wars.
And maybe sometimes we don't understand what his strategies are until they play out.
Yeah.
And so my response to that, though, is that although we don't necessarily know what's going on
behind closed doors with Trump and his team.
I don't also think Trump knows what's going on behind closed doors with what the real
reasons in a lot of these cases are for why we're doing the things we're doing.
I think he is,
I think he is informed on certain things, but I think the deep state, which we have talked
about for years, has an ultimate agenda and goal.
Spend money?
Well, I mean, yeah.
I mean, you always follow the money.
That's number one.
But I'm sure there's a bigger narrative.
Yeah.
New World Order stuff.
Yeah, I mean, I don't even know if it's New World Order, but, you know, possibly.
I mean, you know, do we think that the United States is going to be the leader of the new world order?
I don't know.
It could be, you know, that was what Biden was saying in the last four years.
We're going to be the leader of the new world order.
And then even Australia came out.
No, we're going to be the leader of a new world order.
And it's like, it's this massive race to this new world order system of complete control because that's what it's going to be.
When Palantir shows up and when Open AI shows up because they're going to, the Trump administration did give them $500 billion investment.
Pallantir even was going to be utilized in the L.A. riots as of two weeks ago.
And what Pallantir can do, which we're going to have our episode this week on Pallantir,
Pallantir can do a lot of stuff.
And it is very dangerous.
It is something that we don't want to happen.
So make sure that you guys are prepared for that episode because we're going to do a deep dive on Pallantir.
But here's what Owen Troyer says.
And then we'll break down whether we agree with what he says and what your thoughts are as well.
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Here you go.
Is MAGA dead?
Well, first, you have to understand what MAGA is in order to answer that question.
So let's talk about the MAGA coalition that got Trump elected in the last election and won the House and the Senate.
it. You had all types of different people in this populist nationalist common sense movement.
You had people on the left. You had people on the right. You had people in the middle. You had
your far right wing. You even had some of your far left wing. And then you had some individual
bubbles like Tulsi Gabbard supporters, RFK Jr. supporters. You had Elon Musk fans. So it really
was a populist nationalist common sense coalition. Now, bombing Iran definitely.
fractured it.
There's no...
I want to pause for a second.
Tulsi Gabbard is probably about to not be in Trump's cabinet, by the way.
I want to make that very clear.
There was a reporter that asked Trump a question about something that Tulsi Gabbard said.
And he disagreed with her.
Yeah.
What Tulsi said was they don't have nuclear weapons.
I mean, this is bullshit and, you know, whatever.
And then so Trump said to the reporter, who in my intelligence community or whatever said
that?
And they said Tulsi Gabbard is like, well, she is wrong.
Mm-hmm.
So that's what he said.
So there's obviously a fraction there between now Tulsi and Trump.
So just go ahead and expect Tulsi's not going to be in any kind of power very soon.
And the question, the better question to this is, who's right?
Is Tulsi Gabbard right or is Trump right?
We don't know.
But at the very least, that's kind of the narrative taking place.
Out about that.
It is 100% fractured.
And people can stick their nose in there and say, you weren't real MAGA anyway.
We don't need you.
Well, actually, you do.
There's this thing called a political process where we have elections, and it was this coalition
that allowed us to win the House, the Senate, and the White House.
So actually, you do need it to win.
The rules don't change just because you stick your nose in the air and say, oh, you're not
real MAGA anywhere.
Congratulations.
You've taken over a movement that is now injured, wounded, barely walking.
Now, Trump might be able to come out unscathed.
And I'm not going to say that the MAGA movement is dead, but it's obviously fractured.
Everybody can see that.
and as far as the geopolitics and everything, post strikes, we'll just have to wait and see.
So I'm going to put that off for this conversation.
But here's the problem.
So we've got these real debates happening about domestic policy and mass deportations and the big,
beautiful bill and spending, and we're handling domestic issues, and we're trying to get momentum
going, and we're having problems with the Epstein list and all this stuff.
And then out of nowhere, here comes the Middle East again.
Out of nowhere, just like a hypersonic missile, out of nowhere, crashes into the
and yet again
American policy
America first politics
is completely thrown off kilter by the Middle East
so it just comes out of nowhere
and now we're like already kind of like
stunned and hazed like what just happened
and then now we have Iran strikes
and now we're talking about regime change
and we're sitting here like
well wait a second
I don't like Iran
I'm not for Iran having nukes
but what happened to America first
what happened to all the domestic issues
the mass deportations, the Epstein Cliolus, the cutting taxes, the January 6th cover-up,
and on and on and on.
And we're just like, here comes the Middle East again.
Like, oh my gosh, just out of nowhere.
So, boom, now we're involved in the ramp.
So, yeah, that's going to be a problem.
That's going to be a problem politically.
I want to say something, too, with what he's saying here.
Because, I mean, he does make a good point.
Right before this Middle East shit happened.
You know, you had Dan Bongino and yeah,
Cash Patel, the FBI director and deputy director, going on news sites and saying, look, guys, we're...
And they were all under heat.
Yeah, Epstein, Epstein killed himself.
I've seen the video, supposedly.
That's what happened.
At some point in time, also, you had Attorney General Pam Bondi that came out at one point in time.
And this was after, by the way, that they brought in all these right-wing, probably paid social media influencers that were all given a binder.
And they were holding them up in the air as they left.
the White House saying, look, I got the files of the Epstein files.
Come to find out, it wasn't shit.
It was nothing new, nothing that we didn't already know.
And a lot of people are saying that happened because Trump was on those files, but we already
knew his name was on the list.
Well, yeah, we knew it was on the flight list, but, you know, I still go back to that.
It's like, you know, if Democrats had anything on Trump with the Epstein thing, they would
have fucking burned everybody to burn him, in my opinion.
But irregardless.
So that happens.
then you have Pambondi because of the backlash of that bullshit you know uh i guess
influencer little debacle where they were going to release all these files then you had
pan bonnie come out and this was after i believe it was Alex Jones or someone kind of had an
inside intel into uh we've got thousands oh no it was James O'Keefe yeah James O'Keefe had intel
where he uh was talking to someone undercover or no he had someone talking to Pan Bonnie damn i'm
getting us straight finally.
He had someone talking to Pan Bondi.
Pam Bondi said there are thousands of videos of these perpetrators, likely politicians.
And it's going to take us all the long time to go through all this and protect the victims and all that stuff.
So James O'Kee and his team reached out to Pan Bondi and said, oh, well, you say you have all these videos.
By the way, we have you on videos saying this.
And it wasn't literally the next day that she was on a press conference saying we have tens of thousands of videos of these perpetrators.
that are engaging in her heinous sexual acts with children and all this stuff.
So then not long after that, a week later, you have a cash Patel.
You have Dan Bonjino, very respected, especially Dan Bongino, very respected in the space
that we are in, which is as a podcaster, as a person that is an influencer or someone that has
a show, someone that most everyone that watched Dan Bongino trusted wholeheartedly,
everything he said.
But now that he is.
government and then he comes out on these mainstream news sites in interviews saying it was cash patel
in this one interview says i can tell you right now there are no files we we don't have any files
um you know epstein did kill himself i'm telling you that and then it looks to dan bonjino and he's
like yeah um absolutely yeah cash patel or sorry yeah cache patel's right epstein did kill himself
and it was just so weird yeah seeing this interview this is not the real dan bonjino yeah and how
they just did a flip because that's what Cash Patel campaigned on.
He's like, that's the first thing I do on day one.
I'm going to let those files go and I want the world to know what's in those files.
Yeah.
And now all of a sudden they disappeared.
And I've already read them.
And I think he was on the fact that Epstein was murdered and not killed himself prior to this.
And now all of a sudden he killed himself.
I just say they're full of crap and they're hiding something.
Well, I do want to just quickly go into this.
I don't want to get too deep into this, Sherry, for you.
But we're not doing religion.
No, I know.
It's not religion.
It's not religion.
I'm going to go back.
No, no, it's not religion.
It's just that we do know that Jisleine Maxwell's father, I believe it was, was a huge
massad agent.
We know that Jisleine Maxwell was connected to Epstein through.
We think his father, we also know, or her father, we also know potentially that, you know,
Epstein likely also a CIA asset, but also a massite.
odd asset because of the connection with Jisleine Maxwell.
And then even, you know, we go back to some politicians that have talked about this and saying
that it's the reason why we don't maybe have access to these videos to the evidence that the FBI
well that the FBI 100% took out of the Epstein house because there were cameras in every single
room.
It was for blackmail.
And then the FBI took all of this shit out just the same way they did in the Diddy trial.
did the same thing with Epstein but um even Matt Gates has talked about the reason why we do and
Matt Gates did not necessarily go as far to say it was Israel that has that has this all all the
files all the video but Matt Gates did say that he said and he said I'm telling you this because
I've been on the committees I know what the reality is there is a foreign government that has
all of this shit and this was a foreign yeah there's a blackmailing yes there
blackmail in the United States.
It could be.
And so there's a lot of connections with could Israel have been a blackmail agent of a foreign
nation to make sure they continue their A-PAC influence over United States politics
by way of Jeffrey Epstein.
It could be because if you look at the flight logs alone, every single president that
we know of, you know, our living days are on that list.
Yeah.
So I just wanted to point that out because, you know, he's talking about the Epstein thing.
And then, you know, all this shit disappeared.
when the Middle East just had a massive blowup conveniently.
Yeah, interesting.
But I wanted to go back to his video real quick.
You know, when he says, I thought we're America first, why are we worrying about what's going on in this region?
And why are we worrying about if Iran has nukes?
Well, to me, again, it goes back to a direct threat.
And that is America first.
That is not Israel first.
That's America first.
when we're taking out a threat that could directly hurt America.
But I also believe that Israel or sorry, not Israel, but Iran did not have capabilities
to deliver a nuke to the United States in any capacity.
Matt Gates says that he was on the intelligence communities or committees.
They knew that Iran did not have access to that.
They knew.
Okay, let's just say that they did.
Would you feel like that would be an American first agenda?
Agenda?
Well, yeah.
I mean, but Matt Gates also said, why are we not going?
into North Korea, which literally is the country that hates us the most.
And they are the closest as far as strike distance and everything else.
They could hit Los Angeles pretty easily with their capabilities.
And we know they have capabilities like that.
Why do we not do that?
Well, it's probably because they already have the nukes.
But how and why did we ever let them develop the nukes?
Why did we let that happen to begin with?
Because now all of a sudden we're saying, oh, we can't let Iran do this, but we let North
Korea do this.
It just none of that really makes a lot of sense.
Let's listen to a few more minutes of what Owen's saying here.
In the midterms and in 2028.
It's probably too early to say it's going to flip it as far as the midterms and the House
and the presidential election, but that's what history tells us is going to happen.
And then you're going to have to deal with impeachment.
And this isn't going to be like the fake Ukraine phone call and the other fake
impeachments that the Democrats did.
This will be real.
This will be a real debate about the strikes being constitutional or not.
There is a real debate.
I'm not telling you what is right or what is wrong.
I'm not getting into that.
But that's what's going to happen.
Now, you say, well, the Democrats don't have the votes.
They might.
I could see five, six, seven Republicans giving the Democrats the vote to impeachment.
I don't know.
Is that really so far-fetched?
You're already hearing the calls.
So you're going to have to deal with that now.
That's going to throw you off.
And to that point, by the way,
you know, there could be Republicans that side with Democrats on this issue.
But what really happens when they impeach?
Because they impeach Trump several times his first term and nothing happens.
So what is the, I don't even understand what impeaching means at this point.
I do think there is a way that you can impeach to where it puts you out of office.
There is, there is a term of impeachment to where a certain faction of a political party can impeach.
And it's kind of like a piece of paper that says you're impeached.
But I do actually think, and I could be wrong, I, I'm not looking at.
up. Well, even Clinton was impeached for having sex with Monica Lewinsky, but nothing happened to
him. Yeah. But I feel like there's a way that you can actually, you know, vacate a presidency or
put them out of office with impeachment, depending on kind of how the Senate and Congress or whatever
would vote on that. And the interesting thing for Trump is, is that he does have a lot of the
people that were starch supporters of Trump that are now coming out in, you know, saying that,
we don't agree with Trump's actions.
But I think that they are kind of doing a false start.
They're not letting this play out the way that Trump is strategizing this to play out.
Yeah, I agree.
Let's listen to some more of Owen.
And then we're going to talk about what happened today.
Now, here's the other problem that MAGA is having right now in this kind of identity crisis
and this what is MAGA or doesn't even exist anymore.
You have people that are just observing this and just watching all of this happen, and they're saying, well, what's going on here?
Why is Netanyahu's foreign policy controlling our foreign policy?
Why is Netanyahu now getting America involved in all of Israel's troubles?
And why are we now doing Israel first policy, which is undeniable, as they keep moving the goalposts.
Oh, they have nukes, they don't have nukes.
They're months away.
They're years away.
They've been saying it for years.
Now it's regime change.
Oh, Israel can do it by themselves.
Never mind, no, they can't.
So everybody's just like, okay, what the hell is going on?
And then they say, gee, Netanyahu seems to have a lot of influence on our domestic and foreign policy.
And the Mossad is more trusted than our own intelligence sources.
And now we're getting involved in the Israeli-Iran war.
What is going on?
And then they get called an anti-Semite.
And they're just like, what the hell?
I'm just trying to have, what are we talking about here?
We're just making neutral observations and having,
political conversations and debates and now all of a sudden I'm an anti-Semite?
What happened?
What the hell is going on?
So people are just, they're just, they're stunned.
They're stunned.
And then they're trying to figure it out and they're having real conversations and they're
getting attacked and they're getting called names.
So yeah, how do you think that's going to help MAGA going forward?
So again, I don't know if we could say it's dead, but it's definitely fractured.
I mean, it's wounded.
It's lying at this intersection.
section right now, barely lifting its head up, rasping for air.
Yeah, there you go.
And that is true.
Like, if you don't go on board with Israel's foreign policy or you don't go on board
with what the United States is going to get involved in for Israel, they call you anti-Semite.
Anti-Semite and an anti-United States involvement in war is two completely 100% different
things.
There are definitely people out there that hate Jews.
And then there are people out there that hate the U.S. involvement.
with Israel. And there's also two different things.
People out there that hate Christians.
Absolutely.
But the reality is that there's not a Christian nation and a foreign nation that we are
supporting by billions of dollars.
That's the huge difference.
And getting involved.
Because by the way, I think even if there was a nation over there in the Middle East that
were predominantly Christian, that the United States of America would still say,
we do not need to get involved in that.
I mean, I still believe that because this is our country.
is our taxpayer dollars that go into all of this shit the same way that USAID has exposed all
the corruption all the things that we have seen our taxpayer dollars going to for crazy
heinous shit I would I would still say the same thing if there is a Christian nation over there
and they are involved in certain things and they're not the United States of America and by the way
Iran is they have had one million plus new Christians over the last two years which is crazy
It's decreased.
Look up the stats in the Middle East.
There has been over a one million Christians either have to immigrate or they have been killed based on their religion in the Middle East.
Yeah, I understand that, obviously.
So that's not true.
What I'm saying is there has been a mass influx.
If you look it up, there's news articles about it right now in Iran.
There has been a mass push for one.
You better go check your facts.
I know my facts.
But I'm not saying that's representative of the government, Sherry.
That's not what I'm saying.
I'm literally saying the people,
there is a mass movement of Christians in Iran.
Yeah, so what I was saying is 500 to 800,000 Muslim background believers
have reportedly converted to Christianity according to the new or sorry,
through the world Christian encyclopedia and related surveys.
More optimistic estimates widen the range up to 900,000 to 1 million.
Some faith-based organizations and media outlets suggest that over 1 million new Christians
adhere to Christian policy in Iran.
But this is just the thing.
It's obviously not the government.
It is not the regime.
It is not the authoritarian dictatorship that is in Iran.
But there has been a mass rise in Christianity in places like Iran.
So with all that being said, though, my point to this is that we would not necessarily as America go over and save a country that is full of Christians.
If it was our ally, we would.
I know.
But what I'm saying is the people of America, not necessarily.
I think they would have the same beliefs.
This is not our country.
We are America first.
And that is what a lot of the people from the America First group are saying is like, we don't need any more new wars.
We do not need to get into more wars.
What you're saying is that it doesn't make a difference if they're Jewish or Christian.
There would be a fracture in the Trump population of the ones are saying we don't want war.
And I am saying, I don't think it's about Christian or religion.
No, it's not.
It's about foreign nations versus our own.
Yes.
And my disagreement with you is it's not just a foreign nation, but is our strongest
ally in the world.
Yeah.
Let me just clarify what I'm saying.
I think that if Israel was a whole Christian religion or a whole Jewish religion, I don't
think it really matters at this point.
What matters to us is there are little.
brother, they are ally.
They are our strongest ally in the world.
And why would you want to cut ties with an ally?
All right.
Well, I'm not going to go into that because I have different opinions.
And I'm apparently not going to say my different opinions.
But here we go.
So Donald Trump today said Iran has officially responded to our obliteration of their nuclear
facilities with a very weak response, which we expected, and have very effectively
countered. There have been 14 missiles fired, 13 were knocked down, and one was set free because
it was headed into a non-threatening direction, and I am pleased to report that no Americans were
harmed, and hardly any damage was done. Most importantly, they've gotten it all out of their system,
and there will hopefully be no further hate. I want to thank Iran for giving us an early notice,
which made it possible for no lives to be lost, and nobody to be injured. Perhaps Iran can now
proceed to peace and harmony in the region, and I will enthusiastically, and,
encourage Israel to do the same. Thank you for your attention in this matter. Donald J. Trump,
President of the United States. And then also, Trump also said recently,
congratulations to everyone. It has been fully agreed by and between Israel and Iran that there will be
a complete and total ceasefire in approximately six hours from now when Israel and Iran have
wound down and completed their in-progress final missions. For 12 hours, at which point
the war will be considered ended. Officially, Iran will start the ceasefire.
and upon the 12th hour Israel will start the ceasefire and upon the 24th hour an official end to the 12-day war will be saluted by the world.
During each ceasefire, the other side will remain peaceful and respectful.
On the assumption that everything works as it should, which it will, I would like to congratulate both countries, Israel and Iran,
on having the stamina, courage, and intelligence to end what should be called the 12-day war.
This is a war that could have gone on for years and destroyed the entire,
Middle East, but it didn't and never will. God bless Israel. God bless Iran and God bless the
Middle East. God bless the United States to America and God bless the world. So that is what happened.
Israel did fire, I guess, 12 or 14 missiles towards Qatar, the military base, I think is the biggest
military base in the region. And all of those were shot down. Iran gave notice of what they were
going to do, which still makes zero sense to me. It also still makes very little sense to me. It also still makes
very little sense to me how the before and after pictures of the site of Fordow look exactly
pretty much the same as it did before.
There's a lot that just doesn't make sense.
And then you have, you know, now some U.S. officials that have said, well, we don't know
where the uranium went.
We didn't necessarily actually hit what their uranium was that was transported somewhere else.
And so do we actually even know where this enriched uranium is?
or did they ever really even have the amount of enriched uranium, like we say,
or was this some bigger plot behind the scenes for a regime changed from the very beginning?
Because as Matt Gates said, and as we have talked about,
if you want some country that you want to,
that you really do have a massive threat from,
North Korea is one of those.
Also, we were talking earlier, Sherry, about the cartels in Mexico.
You know, I saw an interview today where this guy,
he was a ex-green beret, I think, or Navy Sill.
And he was talking about, you know, what if the United States clears, you know, our special forces guys to go down to Mexico and take out the cartel.
And, you know, you can almost ask any of those special forces guys and they'd be like, hell, yeah, I'm ready to go.
Let's let's go whoop their ass.
But the reality of that situation is, is that the cartel in Mexico is like a military.
They're like the government in a lot of ways.
They have all the same assets and factions of the United States military except for B2 bombers and shit like that.
I mean, they don't have that, which could completely destroy them.
But it would be really hard to do that because they are within city centers.
You would have mass casualties of civilians.
But, you know, all I'm saying is is that I think that beyond Iran, we have countries in this world that want to destroy America much stronger than Iran does.
And I, you know, you go back to the cartel incident.
We have cartel members that are infiltrated and in.
amongst us in the United States everywhere.
In every major American city, every small city, there are cartel members that are selling drugs.
There are cartel members that are doing the cartel type shit that they do in Mexico, but they're doing
it here, and especially over the past four years.
And then not only that, regardless of whoever you want to blame the fentanyl on, which most
people say China was the main conducer or conductor of the fentanyl, but the main movers of
fentanyl was the cartel.
And so they have been the main movers of fentanyl.
So if we think about this, how many people has fentanyl killed per year?
Right.
It's hundreds of thousands of Americans.
Yeah, it's killing us within our own country.
And this is far greater than the loss that we had and suffered on 9-11.
So if you think that the cartel is vastly responsible for a mass movement of fentanyl into the United States that has killed hundreds of thousands of our citizens.
And yet you don't care about the cartel, but we all of a sudden care so much about Iran that we think Iran has.
a nuclear weapon that they're going to somehow reach us or even Israel, which I don't even
think they could reach Israel.
We've seen that they can't do shit in Israel.
If they would have had a nuclear weapon, especially knowing that they were on their backs,
they knew that Israel was completely obliterating a lot of their, allegedly, a lot of their sites.
The United States spent over $180 million, I believe, on Operation Hammer or whatever this is
called with B-2 bombers with the 30,000 pound 14 bunker buster bombs.
and yet all of this shit.
And yet, nope, cartel's fine.
They're good.
I mean, it's only killed like 300,000 American citizens per year.
But that's not that important.
I agree with you.
But I also feel like America had to do that with Iran because we have to let other leaders
in other countries know where we stand and where our red line is.
And you're not going to go across that red line.
And I think it was more importantly, not just to tell Iran, but I think it's to tell other countries.
The same thing.
I'm talking about Russia and China, big-ass countries that have big-ass militaries.
Let's make no mistake.
And this is my opinion.
Iran has zero threat to the United States whatsoever.
But what I just said is maybe it was a warning to these other countries.
Maybe.
I mean, but I think there's something much bigger behind the scenes.
I think this is a conspiracy.
I think there is a conspiracy behind the scenes.
And by the way, Iran doesn't just notify you that they're going to send 12 missiles and make sure no one gets hit.
This is some kind of bullshit theater.
This is theater.
And I don't even know what the theater is.
I don't know what movie we're watching, but we're watching some type of movie.
I think Iran had to back down, but they didn't, like Andrew Tate said, they don't want to look like, you know, a cat.
Yeah, but also we know that the United States could likely go into Iran and destroy Iran if they want to.
Yeah.
I think there was some backhanded deals.
There were some things that were being done behind the scenes that we don't know about.
Because like I said, if this was really about a threat to the United States of America, we would be all up in Mexico shit tomorrow.
If this was a threat about America, we would be all over North Korea tomorrow.
Maybe not North Korea first, but we would absolutely be taking out the Mexican drug cartels that have moved millions and billions of dollars of the fentanyl into the United States that have killed hundreds of thousands of our citizens per year.
this is the problem.
And that's why no one believes politicians or media at all anymore because everyone sees
this shit.
And when you do logical thinking about like, oh, shit, Iran was a big threat to us.
Oh, but the drug cartels are not.
But I think, too, the cartels are kind of like sleeper cells in America.
And how do you dispose of sleeper cells when you don't even know where they are?
Well, listen, the cartel in Mexico, though, they literally have military vehicles.
They have uniforms.
They have everything.
I mean, and although I do think that if we went into Mexico, that it would be a very
similar situation likely as when we went into Afghanistan, where it's hard to decipher
who is who.
Like, is this a cartel member?
Is this not?
It would be a very ongoing, never-ending war.
But all I'm saying is if we were going to go into a long-term type war over something
that really does affect the United States of America and our citizens, the cartel is
number one on my list, likely.
And then number two is probably
Greenland because they won't fucking give us
the country.
I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
But like literally there are probably people
think that. They won't give us the country.
They won't give us the country.
We're going to go in.
We got. They're the biggest
threat to the world. Greenland.
Everybody knows we're going to strike
them dead.
Oh, God.
I think that's going to be it
I didn't know what to actually
end this episode with
we actually
we had a new song
we don't ever play rap music
on this podcast
Oh yeah I like this rap song
I think you should play it
Yeah boom
Because I do like rap music
I mean I like some of it
I mean I don't like
I like when you wrapped in your song
That I made everyone listen to
Yeah don't even say that
We're not talking about that
All right guys
That's gonna do it
I think that we've basically
covered everything
I mean they're listen
there's there's still so much that we don't know about this and i do want your opinions on this and
by the way congratulations sherry we got through this without killing each other hey thank god
it is it is a tough topic especially considering i have completely different views on this than
sherry does in some ways not completely but i mean just there are certain things that we absolutely
do not agree on and uh this has really been probably the most contentious subject we've ever
done on this podcast in all over years of doing it and you know you got to ask yourself could that
the reason why this is happening? Like, is this just yet another reason to divide the people
on something? It was very interesting because I do follow a lot of preachers and pastors on my
Facebook. And two of the pastors that I follow that I really like think highly of, they said,
you know, instead of looking outward at these battles, you got to work inwardly at the battles
that are going on within yourself. And I think I have been battling inward with myself with all this
and thinking about all these outward battles,
it's an internal battle for me.
Yeah.
Oh,
it is for all of us.
I mean,
and I think that's why we're so passionate.
That's why we believe so much about certain things.
And I think,
you know,
in my opinion,
I think you have a battle for what I think you have a battle for.
And then I think you probably feel the same way on certain things.
But either way,
guys,
this does at least like Sherry says,
make us look inwardly,
especially on subjects of that,
you know,
kind of question our belief system.
systems on everything.
And I think that's what's great about conspiracies or just, you know, these news topics
to where there are podcasts like us and like others that make you think outside the box a
little bit other than just mainstream media.
And that is why mainstream media in whole will be dead before long because they only
preach the narrative.
They only preach the agenda and the lies and the bullshit that they want you to believe
based on whoever it benefits the most.
and we literally, Sherry and I have really struggled with certain subjects on this podcast
to where there were days that we did not want to do these episodes.
We didn't even want to do a podcast because of how much it affects us in our normal everyday
lives.
And so we're not out here getting paid by people to tell us what to say.
It is literally up to us to figure out our own opinions and beliefs.
And sometimes that does affect us in our marriage.
It affects our relationship.
And that's what we got to get better at ourselves.
is like this is a new thing for us.
Like we've had other things affect our marriage
and our relationship in the past.
But this is definitely something new.
And we're trying to work through that.
So hopefully we did the best we could tonight.
Yeah.
And hopefully we stay married forever.
Yeah.
No, we will.
We'll be fine.
But guys, the name of this song is Boom by Humblebee and Nick Collian, I think.
Until next time, guys.
We love you.
Peace out.
Peace out, guys.
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How many others than came is.
Not just take I give them a bite
They're taking a plate
It's all in the field I'm at the gates
We straight We treat them like worms in the lake
They bake Just give me a drum and a bass
I skate and grind till I'm numb in the face
Okay, don't fuck up my day
Don't talk about clutch I got ice in my veins
I'm coated in tray I'll stick to the code
I'm glitching the game to the chase
Everyone give me some space
Don't fall out we fall in a place
Every step walking with grace
Amen keeping my foot off the brakes
I'm trying to get paid
Legends don't die in a grave
They live through the story they made
Maybe I'm trying to get paid
Legends don't die in a grave
Legends don't die anywhere
