Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Minneapolis ICE Shooting of Renee Good | Facts, Politics, and National Reactions
Episode Date: January 9, 2026In this episode, we break down the developing story out of Minneapolis involving the fatal shooting of Renee Good by an ICE agent. We walk through the major headlines and official reporting, examine t...he known facts, and identify what details remain unclear as the investigation continues. We also discuss the role and authority of federal agents, how use-of-force incidents involving ICE are reviewed, and what standards are typically used to determine whether an officer acted within policy and the law. The episode also looks at how both political parties are responding to the incident, how the story is being framed across media outlets, and why cases like this rapidly become national political flashpoints before investigations are complete. This is a fact-focused discussion aimed at evaluating what’s being reported, how narratives are forming, and what questions still need answers.Our Merchandise StoreMy New Song "Smell Of Your Perfume"
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Hello and welcome back to Investigator with podcast. I'm your host chat alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry.
Tonight we're talking about the Minneapolis shooting involving Renee Good and an ICE agent.
Now, this story is already making headlines across the country and like most cases involving law enforcement and immigration.
It's being pulled in different political directions almost immediately.
So tonight we're not ignoring the headlines. We're reading them, breaking them down and evaluating what's being said.
We're also going to look at what happened based on what's being reported.
Whether the use of force appears justified based on available information and how both
political parties are responding to it.
Not to take sides, but to understand how these cases are framed and argued in real time.
Guys, welcome to the show.
It is January the 8th, 2026.
This is the second time I record the intro because I forgot the day and the year.
But that's okay.
We're going to get it right.
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But there is already divide and argument and criticism.
criticism and blame and everything on both sides of the political aisle over the shooting in
Minneapolis of Renee Good by an ICE agent during one of the ICE raids or ice operations.
That has been happening obviously ever since Nick Shirley, an independent journalist on
YouTube, actually uncovered a ton of fraud at daycare centers throughout Minneapolis.
And this is in large part, I guess a lot of Somalis were behind a lot of this.
Now, it wasn't necessarily Nick Shirley.
that was the one that kind of broke this story wide open.
It's not like he's the only person that's ever talked about
the Minneapolis fraud stuff, especially in daycares.
It was just the fact that some reason he was the one that was blown up,
especially by the Republican Party and Fox News,
and they made an example with his work
of finally exposing the story on a national, maybe world level.
And I think a lot of people were pissed off because they're like,
shit, this is where all of our billions of dollars
in taxpayer money is going from the state of Minnesota.
Soda and Minneapolis.
And so Nick surely did expose that.
Nick was also a reporter that was live on the ground in Portland, Oregon during the,
I guess it was the immigration ice, you know, protest.
We also, we covered that pretty extensively.
There's been so many protests.
It's just hard to keep track of like what protests we're even talking about anymore.
But tonight, what we're going to do is we're going to read some headlines.
We're going to talk about what the mainstream media is saying is the CNN's and the Fox
news is, are they divided? Of course they are. And what is J.D. Vance saying? What is President Trump saying?
What is Christy Noam saying? And of course, we'll get to Tim Watts, you know, the very trusted
governor of Minnesota, which seems like he's been behind a lot of this fraud for quite some time.
Now, Sherry, you remember back when the politician got shot in Minnesota, and she was shot by
Bantz Bolter. Right. Melissa Hortman. Melissa Hortman. Yeah. So, and it was also very
interesting how Vance Bolter, the guy that shows up to this house, kills her and her husband.
He then goes and shoots other politicians.
But Vance Bolter was actually a part of some committee that was designated and assigned by
Governor Tim Walts in Minnesota.
And I remember when we did that episode, I felt like that was very strange.
I was like, there's something very weird about that, especially considering, if you
remember, Melissa Hortman was the only Republican or sorry, only Democrat.
Yeah.
that voted against the free health care for illegals.
And she was literally crying on camera and she says,
I know how many people are going to be upset with me over this.
They're going to be hurt by this.
But I just, you know, I had to do it for my Minnesotians.
You know, this is what's right for our people.
And so a lot of people speculated was like,
maybe was that the reason why they targeted her.
There was also obviously conspiracy around that there was a Senate seat that they wanted.
And I believe it was actually Tim Walts that wanted to come down and take.
that Senate seat.
Obviously, Tim Watts, just a week ago, this was after all of the fraud has been exposed
so far, came out and said that he no longer plans to run again.
This will be his last year.
He only has one year left.
And so it looks like he's calling it quits.
And I wonder why he's calling it quits.
To me, that just shows guilt.
Oh, for sure.
When he's saying, I'm not going to run again.
Well, that's because I'm guilty.
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So here's what Yahoo News is reporting from the Los Angeles Times.
A deadly Minneapolis shooting puts the White House on defense.
And it says when a 37-year-old mother of three was fatally shot by an immigration agent
Wednesday morning driving in her Minneapolis neighborhood after dropping her son off at school,
the Trump administration response was swift.
The victim was to blame for her own death, acting as a professional agitator and a domestic
terrorist possibly trained to use her car against law enforcement officials said.
It was an uncompromised in response without any pretense that the administration would rely
on independent investigators of the event, video which quickly circulated online, gripping
the nation.
And it quotes, you can accept that this woman's death is a tragedy, Vice President,
J.D. Vance wrote on social media defending the shooting by an immigration and customs
enforcement agent within hours of her death. And he says, while acknowledging, it's a tragedy
of her own making. The shooting of Renee Nicole Good, an American citizen put the administration
on defense over one of President Trump's signature policy initiatives, exponentially expanding
the ranks of ICE to outnumber most armies, and deploying its agents across unassuming
communities throughout the United States. ICE has just announced the employment of the largest
immigration operation ever in the Minnesota City.
allegedly targeting Somali residents involved in fraud schemes.
But Good's death could prove a turning point.
The shooting has highlighted souring public opinion on Trump's immigration enforcement
with a majority of Americans now disapproven of the administration's tactics,
according to the Pew Research.
So I do want to go ahead and talk about Renee Good just for a minute.
And we'll get into more of some of the press conferences because we get to break those down,
especially JD Vance.
he actually came out today and he was not holding back on what he really thought about what people
were saying about this shooting, especially mainstream media sources like CNN and the like.
But according to New York Post, Renee Nicole Good, which was the Minneapolis shooting victim,
was an Ice Watch warrior who trained to resist feds before the shooting.
And it says the mom who was killed by a federal agent after veering her car toward them was an anti-ice warrior.
and was part of a group of activists who worked to document and resist the federal immigration crackdown in Minnesota the Post can reveal.
Good, who moved to the city last year, linked up with the anti-ice activist through her six-year-old son's woke charter school,
which boasts that it puts social justice first and prioritizes involving kids in political and social activism,
multiple local sources said.
She was a warrior.
She died doing what was right, a mother named Elisa, whose child attends the same school, told the post at a
growing visual where Good was killed Wednesday.
She says, I know she was doing the right thing.
I watched a video plenty of times, but I also know in my heart the woman she was,
she was doing everything right.
Good and her wife, Rebecca, 40, were raising the boy together in the mostly working class
activist heavy neighborhood of South Minneapolis, which features tree-line streets and a large
number of homes with windows decked out and LGBTQ plus flags or signs depicting George Floyd.
Just as many others did in the lefty enclave, Good sent her son to Southside Family Charter School.
A K-5 Academy opened up in 1972, which has, from its inception, been unobshamably dedicated to social justice education.
It was through her involvement in the school community that Good became involved in Ice Watch, a loose coalition of activists dedicated to disrupt an ice raids in the sanctuary city.
So obviously, Renee Good, we can go ahead and start talking about, well, she wasn't just some normal girl that was just trying to...
That just dropped her kid off and then got stuck in this.
Yeah.
And so what the Yahoo News and LA Times and CNN and MSNBC are all trying to kind of put this out is like, well, she was just driving down a city street and ICE just decided to just take her handle and try to force the door open and pull her out of the car.
So she was scared and she had to run.
But that's not what happened.
Now, we don't exactly 100% know what was leading up to and why her car was kind of sideways.
So this was a suburban neighborhood street.
There were many cars that were lined up in the street.
And somehow, she had got her car around most of the cars that were lined up.
The cars were stopped in the middle of the road because ice was in the intersection.
There was a lot of ice agents there.
There were ice cars kind of in and around the intersection.
And they had most of that street kind of blocked off and stopped at this point.
So Renee Good takes her vehicle
And I don't know exactly if she was parked somewhere along on the side of the road
Because that is a road to where cars park on the side
You know on the curb
I don't I'm not a hundred percent sure if she was parked got in her vehicle and then tried to exit around the cars that were stopped in the road
Or if she was at some point in that line
Tried to get out of the line and go around to the front of the pack and then tried to proceed towards where the ice officers were
Either way
if the ice officers are blocking this intersection,
there were many officers in the middle of the road,
likely the reason why they were trying to stop her
was because she was going towards where the ice agents were,
which means if you're going towards where the ice agents are,
you already have the road blocked off.
You're going to stop that vehicle for the ice agent's protection
because why do you do that?
Why do you block off a road?
Well, we know how many people have literally ran over people in the past.
I mean, vehicles have been used as a weapon.
It was used in the Kenosha parade.
I believe it was Kenosha, Wisconsin.
Right, yes.
When that guy just mowed down people through the Christmas parade, many police officers per year die from motor vehicles.
I mean, this is not just a situation where cops die from firearms.
They get ran over and get dragged and all types of stuff with motor vehicles all the time.
And this ICE agent, I'm sure he already has PTSD because this just happened to him two months ago.
He was dragged by a car and was dragged down the street and was injured.
So I'm sure in his mind he was going, oh my God, this is happening to me again.
I mean, look, and that tells me two things, right?
He could have PTSD from that.
He didn't want that same situation to happen again, but it also tells me he must get in front of cars quite often.
So I don't know.
Either way, we're going to talk about throughout this process, like was the police officer in the right or was this a murder?
Because the left and mainstream media, especially CNN, MSNBC, the mayors, the governor, all of that are saying.
this was a murder.
You know, they're jumping to the conclusions already without any investigation and saying
this was absolutely a murder.
But on the Republican side and Trump side and everybody else, they're jumping to the same
conclusions without investigation saying the ICE agent was completely in the right.
Nothing to see here.
Let's move on.
I mean, that's kind of the way both sides are pinning this right now.
So what I want to go ahead and start with is Governor Tim Walts.
He comes out.
He has a press conference.
We'll break down what he says.
Good afternoon.
Today I'm joined by Department of Public Safety Commissioner Bob Jacobson, Colonel Schaefer of the Minnesota National Guard, and Colonel Bogoyevick of the Minnesota State Patrol.
This morning we learned that an ICE officer shot and killed someone in Minneapolis.
My deepest condolences to the family, to the loved ones who had to learn about this tragic event on national television.
We've been warning for weeks that the Trump administration's dangerous, sensationalized operations are a threat to our public safety,
that someone was going to get hurt.
Just yesterday, I said exactly that.
What we're seeing is the consequences of governance
designed to generate fear, headlines and conflict.
It's governing by reality TV,
and today that recklessness costs someone their life.
I've reached out to Secretary of Homeland Security, Christy Knoem,
and I'm waiting to hear back.
Let me be clear.
Donald Trump and his administration may not care much about Minnesota.
That's been pretty evident.
But we love this state.
We won't let them tear us apart.
We'll not turn against each other.
To Minnesotans, I say this.
I feel your anger.
I'm angry.
They want to show.
We can't give it to them.
We cannot.
If you protest and express your First Amendment rights,
please do so peacefully as you always do.
We can't give them what they want.
The hearts and minds of the people in this state are on our side.
To Americans, I ask you,
this please stand with Minneapolis to Minnesotans know that our administration is going to stop at
nothing to seek accountability and justice the State Bureau of Criminal Apprehension are working on the
investigation we have activated the state emergency operations center state patrol Minnesota
National Guard leadership is connected with the Minneapolis Police Department the st. Paul
Police Department Hennepin County Sheriff's Office the DNR and Minnesota's Homeland Security
and Emergency Management we have activated
dozens of members of the State Patrol's mobile response team.
And from here on, I have a very simple message.
We do not need any further help from the federal government.
To Donald Trump and Christy Noem, you've done enough.
There's nothing more important than Minnesota safety.
I've issued a warning order to prepare the Minnesota National Guard.
We have soldiers in training and prepared to be deployed if necessary.
I remind you, a warning order is a heads up for folks.
And these National Guard troops are our National Guard troops.
They're teachers in your community.
They're business owners.
Their construction professionals.
They are Minnesotans.
Minnesota will not allow our community to be used as a prop in a national political fight.
We will not take the bait.
All right.
So that was Tim Walts yesterday at the initial press conference.
This was right after the shooting probably a couple of hours.
And there was one distinct moment there when he talks about potentially activating the National Guard.
and obviously a lot of people on the right, especially Fox News and the pundits on the right,
are all saying it almost seems like or sounds like that he's trying to threaten the federal
government with his Minnesota National Guard.
That's why he specifically says it is our National Guard and we may activate them to
protect our citizens.
It sounds like what he said.
And like, are you saying that you're going to activate the National Guard against ICE or
against federal agents?
Because that's not going to go over very well.
And I don't think that he even wants to test Trump.
or the administration with something like that because then obviously Trump would probably just try to federalize the National Guard.
It would be a whole big fight.
But it just seems like all any administration has been doing is either helping Minnesota screw their own citizens and destroy their cities and destroy their state or the Republican administrations are having to fight this state because they have some of the worst policies imaginable.
They are a safe haven for Somalian illegals.
A lot of these people in Minnesota, they have a huge Somali community.
They also have a huge Muslim community in the same area.
Also, many of those are illegal.
And it wasn't until the actual daycare fraud that Nick Shirley exposed is when Christy
Gnome and ICE and everybody else came in and started to really round up as many
illegals as they can find, especially the ones that are connected to the child care fraud
in which has defrauded the Minnesotian people over, I think it's like $18 billion.
and told him they believe, which is just completely crazy.
And it's either Tim Waltz knew about it and didn't care or he's in on it.
Well, many people think he's in on it.
And that's why I think they're calling him to the House floor, him, and I believe whoever
the deputy governor is, they're calling both of them.
And then some other politician from Minnesota, they're also calling them to the floor.
And I think they're not coming in until February, if I'm not mistaken.
But we'll have to see, we'll have to see if they take the fifth on all of it.
they actually had a huge congressional hearing yesterday to where all members of Congress were
there.
They questioned many officials from Minnesota.
And many of the officials in Minnesota said exactly how it is.
Yeah, we've been trying to work on this for a while.
Since like 2015.
Yeah, couldn't get anything done on it because everything was pushed under the rug.
And then Democrats, all they did the entire time was like, well, let me tell you how many white
people kill people per year.
And it's just like, this has nothing to do with the Minnesota fraud.
Yeah.
They were bringing up issues.
that had nothing to do with why they were there that day.
You know, and it's always like a turn.
Let me turn this, but it has nothing to do with what they were there talking about.
Yeah.
Well, I think what we need to talk about before we even get into today's presser from Tim Watson,
I won't play the entire thing, but you will definitely hear how his mood changes from yesterday to today.
And especially after Christy Knoem had a press conference and J.D. Vance had a press conference and many others.
Obviously, Donald Trump has been on social media saying his thoughts and opinions on the shooting.
I want to break down the shooting itself.
So this woman takes her vehicle.
It's kind of catty to where the vehicles are coming down the road.
So it's kind of horizontal.
It's pointing in front of the first vehicle that they have stopped.
And there are ice agents that are in the road.
Well, there was one ice agent that was right at the door.
He commands the driver to stop.
And he even gets in front of the vehicle a little bit and says,
stop your vehicle.
You're getting out of the car.
another agent tries to grab the door and open the door she has it locked the windows are rolled up
they're yelling at her to stop the vehicle if i'm not mistaken in the video i don't even believe
the ice officer that is standing at the front left headlight of her vehicle i don't even think he has
his weapon drawn at this time but he is commanding her stop he has his hand out saying stop the vehicle
at that moment when the ice agent tries to open her door that is locked that is when she pretty much
floors it. Yeah, pedal to the metal flooring it. And she drives directly towards the officer.
He then draws his weapon. He gets one shot off in the actual windshield. And then as she is turning,
now she is turning away from the officer. He then shoots, I believe, two more times through the
driver's side window. Well, the big question here is that everybody's arguing, well, was the officer in the
right? And did he even have to be hit? Because then there's been arguments like, well, was he even hit or was he
not. And as we talked about last down on telegram, you don't have to be hit for a police officer
to shoot you if you're in your vehicle. A police officer can't shoot you if you were fleeing them,
right? Like if they're beside you and beside the door and they're trying to open the door and you
flee and you take off, then legally they could not shoot you because none of them, none of their
lives would have been in danger in that particular situation. Should the officer have been in front
of a vehicle, especially in this heightened environment with ice and protesters and all this.
I'm not sure they even knew who she was or any of this.
We do know that she had, I guess, been stalking them all day.
She had been following them around the city.
Obviously, she was a part of this group that goes and follows and tracks ice and harasses
them everywhere they go, especially in Minnesota or Minneapolis area.
But I don't know that they knew that at the time.
They didn't know who this person was.
They were commanding the vehicle to stop.
there was an officer that as I said was right in front of the left headlight of the vehicle and as they were trying to open the door she speeds off and at this point he draws his weapon as I say he puts one round to the front windshield and he puts two rounds in the driver's side window so do you not think it comes down to what her intentions were if her intentions were to fly towards the ice agent and hit him then it is justified that he shot her well it doesn't matter about intention but if she was her intentions to fly off if she was a lot of it's
and go around and get out of there, that would be her fleeing.
It doesn't matter about intention, though.
Do you think the officer knows her intention when she's in the vehicle?
He doesn't.
Yeah, so he doesn't.
The officer, the ICE agent, does not know what her intention is.
When the vehicle starts going in a Ford motion and you are in front of the vehicle,
you have a split second to make that decision.
You know, and as everybody's kind of been breaking down the video, you see the video in real time
and it's very fast.
But even in when you slow the video down, there's only frames that you have to make
a decision. So as is very, very slow video, you have about four or five frames to make a
decision. And in this particular case, four or five frames equals about two or three seconds,
usually about two seconds versus frames. So the agent had to make a decision. Now, could the agent
have stepped out of the way without shooting this woman, without killing her and survived and not
been hit by this vehicle? Could that have happened? Yes. He did that. He did move out of the way of the
vehicle. He was not injured, even though they said that he went to the hospital and got checked out
and then was released. I don't even see how he would have been injured necessarily. I've seen people
that say, well, the vehicle did hit him. And if it did hit him on all the videos I've seen,
it brushed him or, you know, barely grazed him. I don't see how it would have injured him in any
way, shape, or form. But, you know, there are people arguing on both sides. What I'm saying is,
though, is that he was not as much in front of the vehicle to where it was, without a doubt,
that he was going to be ran over.
I mean, he literally almost had to take one step to the right, to his right,
to move out of the way, which he did.
Right.
And he was out of the way.
But even after that, even after that initial shot through the windshield, he then
took two shots into the driver's side window.
So at that point, obviously, the vehicle is in front of you.
The driver's side window is directly in front of you.
You are now out of danger.
But then he takes two more shots into the driver's side window.
So this is where it's like, I understand people that are saying, well, look, you know, he was in front of the vehicle.
It was attempted murder because, you know, she was driving towards the officer because he, although he put himself in front of the vehicle, he was commanding making a lawful order to stop the vehicle.
She was technically detained at that moment.
And then she made a move going towards the officer, which I guess he felt like his life was in danger.
So he made the decision to pull his gun and shoot.
And so, you know, most people.
will say, well, he should have just shot once, and then once he was the side of the vehicle,
then he should have stopped shooting.
But unfortunately, law enforcement officers, once you take a shot.
Once you engage.
Yeah, once you engage, you're not, you've never been trained to injure.
You've always been trained to eliminate and neutralize the threat.
And beyond, you know, whether the officer was immediately in danger for his life at that moment
when he was beside the vehicle, he made likely the next couple of shots because you don't know
who she was then going to endanger as she.
she's speeding off and flooring it away.
You get to remember, they already had this road blocked off.
They had it blocked off for a reason because there were other ice agents down the road
and in the road just right down probably 50 yards from where this incident happened.
So when he did take those shots in the driver's side door,
he may have protected other ice agents down the road that was the entire reason why they
stopped all traffic on this roadway to begin with.
Although it sucks.
She was 37 years old.
She lost her life.
I think that in my opinion, it's going to be a justified shooting.
The unfortunate thing is, I say unfortunate and fortunate,
there's not going to really probably be a fair, unbiased investigation in this.
Because even if Minnesota was able to investigate, which they're not, it wouldn't be fair.
They're going to try to pin his ass to the wall.
They're going to try to convict him on murder, just like Derek Chauvin.
However you agree with Derek Chauvin or don't agree, that's what they did.
They made a political example out of Derek Chauvin.
and that was in the height of like the anti-police stuff, the anti-cop movement.
And they wanted to make a huge example of Derek Chauvin.
And that's why it blew up as big as it did.
And if they had the opportunity with this ICE agent, they would do the same thing.
But unfortunately, likely federal agents will investigate this.
And I'd heard from someone last night that technically it should be the FBI.
But even FBI, you got to remember, it is Trump's administration that is in power right now.
So even if the FBI investigates this, you know, you should.
still have cash battel and and and you know even the doj that would be coming down on whoever in the fbi
would be investigating in minneapolis so this is a huge argument but i don't really think it's an argument
if you look at all of the ingredients in the situation not only the buildup to where she continually
was harassing ice not only the fact that you know she was an anti-ice warrior and she
attended all these like special kind of meetings or or these group sessions to where they
would figure out how to negate ice or try to stop or block ice and all the, you know,
and all the places throughout Minneapolis.
That's one of the, I guess, ingredients.
But then the other is that they already had this road blocked.
They were trying to block the road for the safety of their agents down the road.
And then she comes around.
She's basically just going to be like, well, I'm completely ignoring what the hell
you're telling me.
And I'm going to move around all these cars.
And I don't give a shit if you're telling me to stop or not.
I'm going to do what the hell I want to do.
And as the officer and three officers are trying to get.
her to stop trying to open her door, she floors it forward, I think it's completely justified.
And that's what I'm saying.
In the video, though, I saw two cars pass before she made her way out.
So there were two cars that were going.
Those were ice.
I think those were ICE agent vehicles.
Okay, that makes sense.
Yeah, they were undercover vehicles.
One of them floored it down first because they were trying to get him down the street
because that's where other activity was going on.
And I think there was another one that came through.
They had all of these civilian vehicles,
blocked and then here she comes trying to get around everything and just ignoring all the
orders that the agents are commanding her to stop in the road and just wait there and she was
continually ignoring their orders that's what led up to they were going to take her out of the
vehicle because she wasn't listening and unfortunately like in this world and this day and age
you know when you're on social media and you're always online and you're looking at all the
hatred against ice agents and Trump and the administration and then you get out there in the
real world and you encounter these situations to where you kind of almost still feel like you're
online like reality doesn't really apply to you like i can say or do or act however i want laws don't
apply to me especially if it's ice agents like screw those guys because i know screw those guys because
i'm a democrat and i'm on the left and everything i've ever read says you don't got to you don't
got to obey ice you don't have to obey any of trump's agents orders or any of this shit so in their
mind they have this like ego build up that it's like they're untouchable
right just like they are online just like all the shit they talk and and all the things they've heard for years under Biden Harris administration especially obviously she was big in LGBTQ plus and kind of that whole indoctrination of stuff but this is kind of what leads to decisions that she made this day that ended up in reality which was you just put an ice agent's life in danger and now you are dead because of your decision and you know that's the unfortunate part of this because I
do think so many people in this country are indoctrinated on on in some ways both sides I think more
heavily obviously on the left side because we've seen that over the past four years we've seen what
the left was trying to push as normal and not just to everyday citizens but on our kids this is
a huge reason why a lot of people voted Republican they didn't want you know trans story time
at their at their public libraries or they didn't want the trans parades where were men and women
or half-necked and kids that were in town or around were able to see this stuff.
That's why people voted Republican.
And so there was huge indoctrination that went on on the left.
And I'm not saying it hasn't happened on the right as well.
I think we've seen some of that really over the past six months or a year when things that
were promised to the Republicans didn't happen.
And then you still had those tribalistic warriors on the right that just said, well, I don't
give a shit.
What they said they were going to do, they're lying to us now about, I'm just going to continue
to believe and go along whatever.
it is, they say. And that's not the right way to be on either side. And unfortunately, I think
indoctrination and that that kind of sick mindset got this woman killed. And I really do think that.
And I think it comes down to the politicians like Tim Watts, like Kamala Harris, like Joe Biden,
like every other politician on the left that has continually said, screw ice. You know, Trump is a
fascist. He's a dictator. He's all of these things. These are his Gestapo, you know,
agents and they're, they're abusing law.
Everything they're doing is unlawful.
And so in a lot of people's minds, especially these social justice warriors, they feel like,
screw you.
I ain't got to listen to your ass.
And then it gets them in this situation.
And if anything, you know, the reason why this woman died is, is a lot of them, the
Democrats that indoctrinated a large portion of our country into believing that you don't
have to listen to police officers.
You don't have to obey their orders.
You can get away with whatever you want to.
and we'll protect you because that's what happened for four years.
I mean, these people could do whatever the hell they wanted to.
They could burn down cities.
They could beat people up.
They could attempt to kill people.
And they all got away with it.
And it was usually the Democrat administration that would go to war for these people.
They would make sure that they were funded and GoFundMe's.
And Kamala Harris used to donate to these GoFundMe's on just the craziest shit, you know.
And so that's what I'm saying.
I think this death is because.
of the indoctrination that we have been a part of, all of us have been a part of over the last
four years.
And unfortunately, a lot of people took that hook, line, and sinker.
And now it's something really hard for them to grasp that, oh, shit, we're supposed to
actually listen to law enforcement.
And we get in a situation like that.
And, you know, and that's why there were so many officers over the past four to eight
years, even under Obama, that we've lost a lot of good police officers because they did not
feel supported by the government.
they felt like if they made a decision that was to save their life, it was going to come back on them.
They would be the ones that were charged with murder.
And it's like as law enforcement officers nowadays, it's damn if you do or damn if you don't.
If you do protect your life and kill someone, well, if there's an administration in that's going to go against you, then you're screwed.
If this situation right now happened and Biden and Harris was in office, this guy would be in jail right now, charged with murder and likely he would be convicted of murder.
And that goes with Tim Walts and how his his tune changed today because yesterday he's all about, yeah, we've got all this law enforcement, you know, on this.
We're going to investigate this fully and we're going to, we expect justice, meaning that this ICE agent is already guilty before even looking at the evidence.
Yeah.
But his tune did change a little bit today.
It was kind of funny.
Yeah, we'll listen to this real quick.
And then we got a couple other things to play because I want to break down what J.D. Vant said.
He was pretty fiery today.
You know, obviously I'll read you what Trump.
also said immediately following the shooting, and then we'll get to a couple of witness reports.
Here you go.
Morning.
I'd like to start again this morning, extending sympathies to Renee Good's wife and child to the rest of the family.
Deepest sympathies on an unimaginable tragedy and the horror of the last 24 hours.
Also a deep thank you to Minnesotans and those across the country.
I understand a fund has been set up to support Renee's six-year-old child.
child and wife, other things being done.
I would encourage Minnesotans and folks across the country in this moment, you're seeing
neighborliness and kindness rise to the occasion is go and find out what they're doing there
and give some help if you can.
I'd also say last night we saw Minnesotans meet the moment once again.
Thousands of Minnesotans demonstrated last night peacefully.
They shared a message about the reckless.
ICE mobilization is not keeping us safe and led to the tragedy that the world witnessed once again.
To Minnesota, I say thank you.
There's strength in numbers.
There's power and peace.
And what we saw was a beautiful vigil to a life that we're starting to learn more about.
I want to stop here because he's saying the ICE is not keeping us safe and it's only hurting us.
But the reality is that ICE is there to try to get the illegals away that are defrauding your citizens tax dollars.
And by the way, they're doing that because of you.
They're doing that because of your government.
You are allowing them to do this.
So no wonder you're on their side, Tim Watts,
because you've literally hijacked $18 billion of Minnesota taxpayer funds.
And you have given it to this group of Somalis that you have imported in,
which I think we're going to find out a lot about that because it sounds like that they were importing in Somalis in exchange for votes.
And so you ask you.
yourself, well, how could they vote if they're illegal? Well, we've already talked about that
for forever. I mean, there were many illegals, we believe, that voted especially in 2020.
But we also believe that that happened in large part in Democrat-led states and cities,
especially in lower races like governor and some of the Senate and congressional races.
We know that happened. And there was also what was known as a fast-track the citizenship clause
that Minnesota somehow worked out, especially with Somalis, that they would fast-track or put
them on paper essentially to where it was almost like they appeared to be citizens,
although they weren't.
And then they were able to vote in special elections or certain elections in Minnesota
and throughout Minneapolis.
Yeah.
And it was crazy, too, in the congressional meeting yesterday, they had one Minnesotian guy
that was like pro-democrat or whatever.
And he's like, wait a minute, I can't answer these questions because most of these people
were citizens.
But how did they become citizens so fast like that?
Yeah.
and that's BS and most of them were not citizens.
That's just a lie.
But, you know, he was anything that guy was asked, obviously he was a leftist.
And everything he was asked, he tried to bring it back to something like whiteism, whatever.
And that's all the Democrats did yesterday in the congressional hearings.
Like, well, but do you know how many white people kill people every year?
Do we know?
I mean, we don't even need to talk about the fraud in the $18 billion because white people.
Okay. Screw fraud, white people. Let's talk about how white people are bad. Let's talk about how Republicans are pieces of shit. Let's talk about all of that stuff. But let's definitely not talk about at all whatsoever fraud in Minneapolis and how shitty this state and city is because of the elected leaders that we have put into power or that whoever the illegals put into power and put it that way.
and I will let those that want to push out false narratives to slander to fame, Renee Good.
Minnesotans will tell her life story.
Minnesotans will be there to defend her honor and see this as a human being, not a moment in time or the callous casualness that I've watched some people on TV gloss over what they saw.
We've also spent a lot of time talking last 24 hours about a couple.
accountability. That means no function of government operates with impunity. It means when someone's in a
position of authority and they commit any act that impacts our people, there has to be another
place to turn to get justice. Checks and balances. Basic idea of the center of the formation of our
country. It's the only measure that protects us from the abuse of government or federal overreach
or tyrannical government.
Yesterday, the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, the BCA, spent the day yesterday attempting
to get that accountability.
We have learned that the Trump administration has now denied the state that ability to participate
in the investigation.
And I just want to make this as clear as possible to everyone.
Minnesota must be part of this investigation.
These are nonpartisan career professionals that have spent years building the trust of
community. There's a BCA Force Investigations Unit that was created by the legislature, by the people of
Minnesota to provide an independent, consistent, and trusted mechanism for investigating the use of force
incidents involving law enforcement officers. Minnesota has seen our share of these, and what you've
seen is, and I have witnessed it during my time, that these professionals have risen to the
moment. They are trusted by people. People who are not by inclination trusting of law enforcement
or government have come to see the professionals at the BCA as true arbitrators that can get them
justice. The unit is the result of years of scrutiny, public engagement, and bipartisan
legislative action. I do want to stop here because, you know, he's making a couple of points,
and I just want to highlight this. When a law enforcement,
an officer in most states get involved in a officer involved shooting, it is the state that comes
and investigate.
So in South Carolina, for example, if a Greenville County Sheriff or Sumter County Sheriff or Charleston
County or whatever gets in a officer involved shooting, they shoot someone or kill someone, it is in
this case in South Carolina SLED, which is the South Carolina law enforcement division.
In Georgia, it is the Georgia Bureau of Investigation that will investigate that officer involved
shooting. Most states have some type of state law enforcement agency that will then investigate
a officer involved shooting in a sheriff or city precinct or law enforcement agency.
But this was federal agencies. Yeah. So federal works obviously very different here.
And I don't exactly 100% know how things are investigated. But as we see with our government,
this part is true. If Trump comes in and says, look, you know what? We're not going to let the state of
Minnesota have any involvement whatsoever in the investigation into this shooting and it is going
to be on the federal government to investigate this, that's like you investigate in yourself.
You're like, all right, well, don't worry, I'll investigate myself for this crime or this potential
crime or alleged crime.
And I'll let you know what my conclusion is on what I think if I was wrong or I was right, right?
And so if the federal government is the one that's going to take over the investigation,
where you have a Trump administration and you have Cash Patel over the FBI,
you have all of Trump's appointees that are the highest people in each of these agencies, right?
Trump appoints all of these people that are over every single one of the federal agencies,
including the FBI, including the Department of Justice or ICE or U.S. customs, all of these people.
Like, how is it technically fair that, you know, those people would be the one investigate in their own?
But you just said if it was under just Minnesota's investigation, they would go after this guy and hang him.
Yeah, because it's political.
It's political in nature as political theater.
When, you know, when Tim Walt says, well, you know, we have this unbiased group of investigators for the state of Minnesota that, you know, they're not political.
They're going to just investigate it as it is.
Likely, that's not true.
And the reality of that is, too, I think even with the George Floyd stuff and Derek Chauvin and even the other officers that also got charged during that and spent some time in prison.
I don't know if they're still, I think they're out now or the co-conspirators in that.
but either way we saw how political that went we saw how basically everything else was ignored it was
only a political motive that's how we got prosecuted that's how we got investigated and that's how we
got charged that's also how he got convicted and so when you see that when tim waltz is saying well
you know we do have this unbiased group of investigators that's bullshit yeah that's bullshit
likely bullshit but it's also going to be bullshit if you think the federal government's going
fairly investigate one of their own shooting someone that was against ice because I just don't think
that's also going to be the case.
What would there be a way that both federal and state could investigate together?
I mean, yeah, you could.
I mean, and I don't know how often that actually works out or happens.
But, you know, like Donald Trump, this was right after the shooting happened.
The Department of Homeland Security actually posted his tweet and it says, Trump says,
I have just viewed the clip of the event, which took place in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
it is a horrible thing to watch.
The woman screaming was obviously a professional agitator, and the woman driving the car was disorderly, obstructing, and resisting.
Who then violently, willfully, and viciously ran over the ice officer, who seems to have shot her in self-defense.
Based on the attached clip, it is hard to believe he is alive.
I mean, I didn't see it like that, right?
I mean, when you look at the clip, the guy literally just steps one step over and he's out of the way.
And so Trump's obviously kind of really propping this up.
up saying this guy was lucky to live and i don't necessarily see it that way but had he been a little
further to the left or whatever the case is it may have been a very different situation it says
based on the attach clip it's hard to believe she is he is alive but it is now he's now recovering
in the hospital the situation is being studied in its entirety but the reason these incidents are
happening is because the radical left is threatening assaulting and targeting our law enforcement
officers and ice agents on a daily basis they're just trying to do the job of making america safe
we need to stand by and protect our law enforcement officers from this radical left movement of violence and hate.
Now, I don't disagree that we should defend and support our law enforcement, good law enforcement officers.
But I also understand, like, it is the federal government.
It is federal agents.
And the reason why I wish there was a better way to investigate this, I guess you can say,
because as we've already talked about, whether it's Minnesota or the federal government, is it fair?
Probably not going to be.
because then what if in the situation, what if in the case at some point in time, a president comes
along and he sends agents out into the streets and he starts killing innocent people for whatever
reason.
Maybe you're just protesting, right?
What's happening supposedly in Iran and what's happened before in Iran is like when people
protest certain governments, especially dictatorial governments or tyrannical governments,
if you protest these governments, they'll just kill you.
I mean, they literally just send their guys out to shoot you and they start mass murdering their
own civilians. It kind of reminds me a little bit, even though they didn't murder their civilians
in Canada. But during COVID, you know, the trucker rally that was happening. I mean, they,
they debanked people. They took all of their money. They got them all fired from jobs. They put
them in jail. They put them in prison just for their protest. And they would go and, I mean,
they even went as far as not just debanking people, but even the people that were trying to survive
with their crypto wallets, they went to the companies like Coinbase and some of the other ones
and commanded them to restrict their wallets, even from their crypto.
And that's one of the big things we had talked about during COVID.
We're like, just because you have crypto, it doesn't mean it's safe from government
overreach because that was obviously proven bullshit, especially during COVID-19.
There's nothing that government can't do to restrict you from living your life if they want you bad enough.
And so I do on one side of the aisle say, you know, we have to have accountability for anyone
that kills a citizen in the United States or America.
And we need to have a fair way of going about conducting that investigation.
And if it is only going to be the federal government that's going to investigate this,
is it really going to be fair?
I mean, is it really going to be unbiased?
Likely not.
Same thing goes on the other side, though, with Minnesota.
I do think at the very least, I don't think Trump should have immediately said,
well, Minnesota, we're not working with you, screw you, peace out.
This is going to be all on us.
I think at the very least, if Waltz does have supposedly a group of law enforcement,
enforcement officers or investigators that are bipartisan that you should let that group in.
And then they could evaluate both sets of evidence when Minnesota could show the evidence and why
they support this.
And the federal government obviously would be able to do the same.
And it would kind of be public sentiment at that point.
But at least the public would think, well, at least Minnesota did this.
They showed why they think it was, you know, say an unlawful shooting.
And this is why the federal government says it was a lawful shooting, right?
and at least the people, the public, could be settled down about that to where it's like,
okay, Minnesota's going to investigate, Trump administration is going to investigate.
They're both going to present their evidence and they're both going to have press conferences and
then we'll move on.
But it sounds like Trump was already like, nope, screw it, we ain't doing it, you are not going to be a part of this.
We're going to investigate this.
And I think that does it, I don't like that.
I'll put it that way.
But it is what it is.
We'll listen to a little more of Tim Walts.
Minnesotans have made it clear time and again.
They expect transparency through this.
process where a police officer uses deadly force. The BCA Commissioner at Superintendent Evans
have earned that trust by delivering on that expectation. I think it's clear to everyone as they
saw this that it feels now that Minnesota has been taken out of the investigation. It feels very,
very difficult that we will get a fair outcome. And I say that only because people in positions
of power have already passed judgment from the president to the vice president to Christy
Gnome have stood and told you things that are verifiably false, verifiably inaccurate.
They have determined the character of a 37-year-old mom that they didn't even know, don't
know.
They've determined that the actions are done.
I don't know.
I've not used inflammatory terms of what happened.
I've asked us to find the answers.
The only way we find the answers is a thorough investigation.
Now, what I will say, and I'm going to take one little part of what Tim wants to say and be a little bit on his side about something.
And we've kind of done it on this podcast.
The only reason we've done it because I wanted to demonstrate what Fox News, mainstream media and all of them have been pushing in media is that they want to convict this person after her death based on who she was, right?
So LGBTQ, she was lesbian.
She had a wife.
You know, she went to a school that was like a social justice school.
She lived in a neighborhood allegedly or apparently that was like had LGBTQ flags as we read in the New York Post.
Should we automatically just give the verdict of what happened based on who the person was?
You know, that's the same thing as Democrats saying, well, they were Republican.
They were Trump supporters.
So they were guilty.
They were guilty.
There's no question.
Democrats have done that. I mean, that's what we saw for four years. If you were Republican or
conservative and you were in a Democrat state and anything happened to you, you were screwed.
I mean, we've seen that. We've talked about it. We've bished about it. We've complained about it for
years. And so when the right does it, when Fox News does it, when Trump does it, when J.D. Vance
does it and all these people, it kind of is like you're trying to convict someone's character
or whatever happened based on who they are or, you know, whatever. That shouldn't be what our
leaders and politicians in media are saying they should not be trying to convince you that
she was in the wrong because she was LGBTQ or she was in a wrong because she was a social
justice warrior or she didn't agree with ICE or the immigration policy of Trump.
You can't convict someone or conclude an investigation or interpret your investigation based on
that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You cannot do that.
You have to actually evaluate the investigation, look at all the available evidence and then
give your opinion and thoughts that way.
So obviously, we already see that both sides are leaning one way or versus the other.
I mean, that's just the way it is.
And the right is no better for this right now than the left is.
By nonpartisan professionals, we've delivered that.
We've been able to do it.
We've earned the trust.
And when I say that the trust of BCA, and I tell Minnesotans, the trust of law enforcement here,
everyone knows globally, certainly here, that George Floyd, who has murdered a few
blocks from this site toward the soul of who we were. But we healed. We built back trust.
Chief Brian O'Hara came in and took one of the most difficult jobs in America of building back
trust in the police force in Minneapolis after Derek Chauvin murdered George Floyd. And he's earned that.
And he's level. And he's fair. And he's asking for that. And so Minnesotans, I will continue
to press that we be part of the investigation, that we do the investigation so that
Minnesotans can trust what the outcome is. I don't have a predetermined notion. Yes, I saw the video. Yes,
I saw that. But a thorough investigation will see what happened before that. It will take all
factors in, and it will come up with a fair and just conclusion. And we will accept that.
Very, very difficult for Minnesotans to think in any way this is going to be fair when
Christy Nome was judged, jury, and basically executioner yesterday. That's very, very difficult to think that
were going to be fair with that all right so there's uh there's tim waltz that's basically what he
had to say um he brings on some other people uh i do want to go ahead and get to j d vance and this
was jd vance today they had a white house press briefing and caroline levitt came out introduced jd vance
and this is what jd vance had to say he was pretty straightforward obviously he was complete
opposite of what tim waltz is saying and the democrats but i do want to play this and i want to
play it i want to break it down and and we'll talk about it
Guys, thank you, Carolyn.
Thank you.
Great. Well, good afternoon, everybody.
And I want to echo some of what Carolyn said about what we're doing to combat the rampant fraud that exists in our immigration system.
Thanks to failed politicians and thanks to people who allowed the American taxpayer to be taken advantage of for far too long.
I think it's important to understand why this matters to the American people.
I am a father of three young kids, a lot of kids, a lot of people in my generation.
What is that going on there?
Is that normal?
CNN installed this broken camera just to throw me off my game, but it's not going to work.
So here's the simple fact here.
If you're a young parent struggling to afford child care in the United States of America,
there are programs that we have to make it easier for your kids to get in daycare,
for your kids to get in preschool.
Those programs should go to American citizens not be defrauded by Somali immigrants and others,
make it hard for you to get the access to the resources you need.
But number two, making it easier for people who shouldn't even be in this country to fleece
the United States and our taxpayers to begin with.
We have actually activated a major interagency task force to make it possible to get to the heart
of this fraud.
We have Department of Agriculture resources that are focused on snap fraud so that people
who need food benefits can get them, but illegal aliens and other fraudsters don't.
We have over 1,500 subpoenas that the Department of Justice has issued to get to the heart of the fraud ring.
We've done almost 100 indictments, mostly Somali immigrants, but also a few others.
And of course, we're looking in with broad investigatory authority to a number of the instances of wrongdoing that we've seen in Minneapolis.
But we also want to expand this.
We know that the fraud isn't just happening in Minneapolis.
It's also happening in states like Ohio.
It's happening in states like California.
And so what we're doing in order to help coordinate this remarkable interagency effort from the Trump administration, but also to make sure that we prosecute the bad guys and do it as swiftly and efficiently as possible, is we are creating a new assistant attorney general position who will have nationwide jurisdiction over the issue of fraud.
Now, of course, that person's efforts will start and focus primarily in Minnesota, but it is going to be a nationwide effort because unfortunately, the American.
can people have been defrauded in a very nationwide way. I want to thank a couple of people for
the cooperation, in particular Pam Bondi, our attorney general, first of all, for getting a lot of
resources to Minneapolis to start to investigate and prosecute this fraud. Really, at an industrial
scale, we've never seen fraud like this in the history of our country. Pam has been doing a great
job to get the resources there to uncover it. But importantly, creating a job like this often takes
months, sometimes even longer. When we realized that we needed this associate attorney general position,
Pam got this person up and running in about a week. We're going to make the nomination,
hopefully in the next few days. We'll obviously let you guys know who that is when we do it.
I've talked to Senator Majority Leader John Thune, who has promised me swift confirmation for this
official, but this is the person who is going to make sure that we stop defrauding the American people.
Here's one final thing I'll say about this. I've heard a lot of people say that we need a special
Council to investigate fraud in the United States of America. I actually agree, and that's what
this position does. It has all the benefits, all the resources, all the authority of a special
counsel, but with two crucial differences. Number one, it will be run out of the White House
under the supervision of me and the President of the United States. And number two, it's actually
constitutionally legitimate. As you guys may know, the special counsel statute has some major
constitutional questions. When we get the bad guys, we want to make sure we get them permanently
and they don't have some legal technicality they can get out of,
which is why we set it up as an associate attorney general.
I'll take some questions, but I want to make just one final observation here.
When I was actually walking out here, somebody sent me a photo of a CNN headline about what happened in Minneapolis.
And this is the headline. I'm just going to read it.
Outrage after ICE officer kills U.S. citizen in Minneapolis.
Well, that's one way to put it, and that is the way that many people in the corporate
media have put this attack over the last 24 hours. And I say attack very, very intentionally,
because this was an attack on federal law enforcement, this was an attack on law and order,
this was an attack on the American people. The way that the media, by and large, has reported
this story has been an absolute disgrace, and it puts our law enforcement officers at risk
every single day. What that headline leaves out is the fact that that very ICE officer
nearly had his life ended, dragged by a car, six months ago, 33 stitches in his legs. So you think maybe
he's a little bit sensitive about somebody ramming him with an automobile? What that headline
leaves out is that that woman was there to interfere with a legitimate law enforcement operation
in the United States of America. What that headline leaves out is that that woman has,
as part of a broader left-wing network to attack, to docks, to assault, and to make it impossible
for our ICE officers to do their job.
If the media wants to tell the truth, they ought to tell the truth that a group of left-wing
radicals have been working, tirelessly, sometimes using domestic terror techniques to try to make
it impossible for the president of the United States to do what the American people elected
him to do, which is enforce our immigration laws.
The president stands with ICE.
I stand with ICE.
We stand with all of our law enforcement officers.
And part of that is recognizing that you people in the media, not everybody in this room,
but many people in this room have been lying about this attack.
She was trying to ram this guy with her car.
He shot back.
He defended himself.
He's already been seriously wounded in law enforcement operations before.
And everybody who's been repeating the lie that this is some innocent woman who was out for a drive in Minneapolis
when a law enforcement officer shot at her, you should be ashamed of yourselves.
Every single one of you.
All right.
So I want to stop here for a second because, you know, I think a lot of people,
forget that besides Epstein and besides all that stuff, a lot of people voted for Trump because
of the immigration stuff that he was promising.
You know, he said, number one, we're going to close the borders.
And number two, we're going to deport the people that have come across illegally over the last
four years.
And we're talking about millions.
Now, in the beginning of Trump's presidency, even literally two or three months after
Trump came into office, there were a lot of people on the right.
They were saying Trump was not deporting enough.
He was not going after enough people.
And so there was a lot of people that.
really voted for Trump because they thought that, hey, we're actually going to get out most of the
people that came across our border illegally. The reason why we want to do that is because for the safety
of Americans, because we have no idea who the hell actually came across our border at all.
But the reason why a lot of people voted for Trump was because we wanted the illegals out of
the country. We wanted them out of the country because we wanted to make sure that, like, hey,
we don't know over the last four years how many terrorists came across, how many drug
cartels how many this how many that we know that there was over 350,000 missing children during
the Biden and harris administration that we still don't account for 80% of those i know trump
and them have said that they've found some of them but 80% of those 300 and something thousand
children are still missing we still don't know where those are and a lot of the quote unquote
good illegals the people that are not you know not criminals or whatever a lot of them
were trafficking these children across the border.
So you have to remember that a large part of the reason why Trump was voted for, he made
it very clear leading up to his presidential election that he was going to deport as many people
that came across the border illegally as he possibly could.
And people even criticized him in the first three or four months for not deporting enough people.
Nick Fuentes being one of those.
Nick Fuentes was like, oh, yeah, Trump promised all these deportations.
Let me show you how many deportations he's actually had.
And he actually showed a graph.
and it showed like he wasn't really that much ahead of like Obama when Obama was in.
He's not really deported many more people than Obama did under a Democrat-led presidency.
But it's funny because now when you talk to certain people, especially even some Republicans,
where they're like, well, I definitely don't agree with how Trump is using ice and how, you know,
how these people are going through the streets and they're taking people out of their jobs and
they're doing all this.
But Trump said exactly what he was planning on doing.
and honestly he's not even doing it nowhere even close to the scale that he promised leading into his election.
So, you know, are there people that are trying to stop and put a barrier between ICE and the illegals?
Absolutely.
Was this woman one of them?
It sounds like she probably was.
I mean, she was a part of a group of people that this is what they did.
They tried to go out and stop ICE agents from doing their job.
And I don't know if you know, but like if you try to obstruct a law enforcement officer, even in your city streets or where,
it is that you live and you're not illegal, you're going to go to jail for obstruction.
That is an actual criminal charge that you will get.
And so when these people, there's a fine line between protests and you can protest, you can do
all these things.
But when you obstruct, when you try to put yourself in between a federal or state or local
law enforcement officer from doing their job, that is called obstruction of justice.
That is what you are doing is obstructing.
And yes, protesting is not obstruction.
obstruction, but when you were literally trying to go around a blockade that ICE has set up because
of their own safety and because of whatever they're doing in this corridor to where they are
operating, and you feel like that the laws all of a sudden do not apply to you because you've been
to all these meetings that says ICE is bad and we don't have to listen to anything Trump
or his agents say.
And then you have a law enforcement officer in front of you that you decide to speed away and
go towards the officer and you get shot and killed.
and now you have these mass vigils and everybody's saying, oh, my God, this is a murder.
No, unfortunately, it was an unfortunate set of circumstances over the course of years that somehow led you and put you in this position.
Your ideologies, your meetings you went to, the shit you read online, Biden and Harris, all of the stuff that you talk, all the people you talk to and interact with on daily basis, all of this led you to this one moment.
And it was your decision that I believe led to your death.
I concur. I have nothing else to add to that.
Yeah. So I mean, but you know, and so when J.D. Vance is talking about, look, you're, you're interfering in law enforcement activities, especially federal agents. And when that happens, you know, yeah, there's going to be people to feel sorry for you. Obviously, you know, Tim Watts and all of them already set them go fund me, you know, go fund me for the kid, which I mean, the kid has nothing to do with this, you know, and the wife or whoever, we don't know who that is. And look, we do pray for the family. It's going to be tough because they lost someone, you know, they, they, they, they.
lost someone that's close to them. It doesn't matter what the political ideologies this person
had is still a death of an American citizen. We all have different viewpoints all the time.
I don't always agree with what Trump does and what law enforcement does in every single circumstance.
It has to be a case-by-case basis. And I think that, you know, unfortunately, some of the people
that are out there protesting lawful things, I wish sometimes they would, you know, we had more of those
people that were protesting things that were not just left or right.
It was like, hey, let's protest things that we feel like are not necessarily right,
like, you know, whether it's Republican or Democrat doing it.
Like homelessness or stuff like that.
Well, even, well, I'm just saying even like the Epstein files and how Trump's acted with
that or, or did they ever protest anything the Biden Harris administration did, right?
I mean, did you go out and protest anything that they did?
Or did you not do that?
Were you just constantly wrapped up and involved and going to get?
Republicans going against anybody that was MAGA or Trump or whatever, we have to somehow
figure out how to be more neutral because we have a lot of very passionate people in this country
on both sides of the aisle.
And, you know, unfortunately, I've said this a billion times.
That's exactly the way the government wants you.
They want you on one side or the other because then you just fight with each other because
then they can almost get away with anything.
Because if you don't have a united people, then the government is just up there doing whatever
to hell they want to do and they're just going to get you guys to fight back and forth.
And whether they do something wrong or the other side does something wrong, it doesn't
matter because there's so much tribalism.
If the Democrats do something wrong, just like I said, did this Renee good girl ever
go to a protest against Democrats or what Biden Harris was doing or COVID-19 mandates or the
Ukraine billions of dollars that taxpayers were paying to Ukraine or did they ever do any of this?
Probably not.
It was only their social justice shit that they cared about.
But we have to figure out.
a way to bring these passionate people into a neutral cause to where it's like, hey, quit worrying
just about your shit, like the Democrat social justice stuff. And same thing on the right.
Quit worrying about like just being tribalistic to Trump and going just against LGBTQ plus.
Let's somehow figure out a way to be neutral to where we can actually fight the root cause of a lot
of why this country is so screwed up, even though we do have Trump and he's a better president,
I believe, than Biden. But there's still so many problems.
in this country.
And there's so many problems in this government that were never, ever going to get fixed
unless somehow the people unite in some way.
Anyways, I want to play a couple of these questions.
By the way, before we get into the question of J.D. Vance, I do just want to say that
there's breaking news that I was just seeing.
The Department of Homeland Security says that two individuals were shot by Border Patrol
agents in Portland.
And these were members of a Venezuelan gang who attempted to run over agents with their
vehicle. This is what we're hearing. There are two people from a Venezuelan gang that attempted
to run over to the Department of Homeland Security agents, Border Patrol agents, and they
are both shot. That is official right now. So we do not know what any news coming out of that
is. We'll continue to monitor that. And then obviously also, we also saw wild footage of a
Congresswoman Gladys Aurora Lopez. She was seen being struck by an explosives device on the head
on the outskirts of Congress in Honduras.
Someone threw an explosive device as it hit her head.
It blew up.
So that's pretty crazy.
Things change all the time.
Let's get to a couple of these questions.
We'll move on.
Thank you, Mr. Vice President.
I wanted to read a quote from Tim Walts earlier today.
He said, when things looked bleak,
it was Minnesota's first that held the line for the nation on July 3, 1863.
And I think we may be in that moment now.
Can you comment on his rhetoric and Mayor Jacob Frye
and whether they want to see unrest in Minneapolis?
Well, it's very tough rhetoric from a guy who just quit because his fraudulent activities have been uncovered.
Look, Tim Walts is a joke. His entire administration has been a joke.
The idea that he's some sort of freedom fighter, he's not.
He's a guy who has enabled fraud and maybe, in fact, has participated in fraud.
That's what this new assistant attorney general position is going to find out.
I don't care what Tim Walts says.
I care about getting to the bottom of this fraud for the American people,
and I care about enforcing the nation's immigration laws.
That's what we're going to stay focused on.
My friend.
I'm a related question here.
I mean, Democrats have accused ICE of murder.
They've said they're targeting Americans.
They've told ICE to get the F out of Minnesota.
This is going to stoke the fire against ICE agents.
And you're talking about ICE agents right now,
being concerned about them.
What, if anything, is the administration going to do
to make sure these folks aren't protected during these protests?
But also, should DHS sort of revisit their procedures here?
I mean, nobody wants to see an American guilt.
Are there changes that need to be made
to make sure something like this doesn't happen yet?
Look, first of all, of course, nobody wants an American citizen to be killed.
This is absolutely a tragedy.
But it's a tragedy of the making of the far left.
They have radicalized a very small segment of the population,
taught them that ICE agents are engaging in wide-scale violation of people's rights.
What our ICE officers are doing is deporting the millions of criminal aliens that were led in during the Biden administration.
So, number one, we have to say, as a matter of leadership,
and I would appreciate if the Democrats would join me on this,
Let's be honest about the fact that we have way too many illegal aliens in this country.
Our ICE officers should be supported in doing their job.
You're trying to actually marshal the far-left lunatic fringe to engage in doxing,
to try to make it impossible for them to enforce the law.
And in some cases, actually to engage in acts of domestic terrorism against our law enforcement officers.
When you talk about different plans, different protocols, different policies,
I forget exactly how you asked the question.
Here's the simple fact.
What we're going to do is.
make it easier for the American people's administration to enforce the American people's law.
And that means that Democrats have to stop rallying the mob against legitimate law enforcement
operations. And that means that we are going to get tougher. And that's what this A.A.G position is
about. We're going to get tougher at the people who are defrauding the United States by inciting
violence against our law enforcement officers. That's...
So there you go. That was J.D. Vance. And, you know, he,
he says it pretty perfectly.
He's saying, like, this is America's administration.
They voted unanimously for the Trump administration.
This is what Trump ran on.
This is what we're doing.
And the Democrats have to stop rallying their base to try to interfere in federal
agent jobs and operations when they're trying to deport and find the people that are here illegally
that have come across the border, as I've said, under the Biden-Harris administration.
Now, the last thing I want to play, too, real quick, is the Minneapolis mayor.
So the mayor was pretty fiery.
And it's pretty, I was actually kind of surprised because on a lot of these mainstream media outlets, they actually just played his entire.
Yeah, with that F-ball in there.
Yeah, like with him basically cussing out ICE and the Trump administration.
I'll play a few minutes of that in case you have not heard it.
And then we'll talk about it.
We collectively are going to do everything possible to get to the bottom of this.
to get justice and to make sure that there is an investigation that is conducted in full.
But what we do know is that a 37-year-old woman is dead and that she was shot by ice.
We've dreaded this moment since the early stages of this ice presence in Minneapolis.
Not only is this a concern that we've had internally, we've been talking about it.
They are not here to cause safety in this city.
What they are doing is not to provide safety in America.
What they are doing is causing chaos and distrust.
They're ripping families apart.
They're sowing chaos on our streets.
And in this case, quite literally killing people.
So they are already trying to spin this as an action of self-defense.
Having seen the video of myself, I want to tell everybody directly.
That is bullshit.
This was an agent recklessly using power that resulted in somebody dying, getting killed.
As soon as it happened and we learned of the incident, we had several priorities.
The first, of course, was to get the victim to the hospital and to get care as soon as possible.
To the family, I'm so deeply sorry.
There's nothing that I can say right now that it's going to make you or your relatives or the friends of the victim feel any better.
There were, I believe, two Minneapolis police officers that responded and were in the ambulance on the way to the hospital.
The second was to get ice off of the scene.
There were dozens, if not hundreds of ICE and federal officers.
that were there at the time. Having them there was only causing more chaos. Having them there was only
making a difficult situation even more problematic, and one that, yes, they created themselves.
There's little, I can say, again, that'll make this situation better, but I do have a message
for our community, for our city, and I have a message for ICE. To ICE, get the fuck out of
Minneapolis. We do not want you here. Your stated reason for being in this city is to create some
kind of safety and you are doing exactly the opposite. People are being hurt. Families are being
ripped apart. Long-term Minneapolis residents that have contributed so greatly to our city, to our
culture, to our economy, are being terrorized and now somebody is dead. That's on you.
And it's also on you to leave.
It's on you to make sure that further damage, further loss of life and injury is not done.
We're going to be working towards justice as quickly as we possibly can right now.
And justice is what we've all got to get.
Next, the message to our community.
All right.
So there you go.
That was the Minneapolis mayor.
Obviously, he said, you know, what we're hearing about the investigation or what they're already saying is bullshit.
shit and he told ice to get the fuck out what he said get the fuck out ice the reality is is like
does this minneapolis mayor actually give a damn about his people because if he did you would
think that he would care also about the billions of dollars that have been stolen from his citizens
you know the same citizens the same minneapolis or however you say that word you would care about that
but they don't they only care about things that are politically beneficial to them and i say that the
same way. The right does the exact same thing. But the one thing I can say about any of this is that
ICE's job, what they're supposed to do is they are supposed to protect American soil from illegal
invaders. You know, there are many countries around this world that if you invade their
country illegally and you get caught, it is a lot different situation than just ICE trying to
deport you. We have borders for a reason. And whether or not you are one of those people that say,
well, we should have no borders. You should be wide open because of God or whatever. We've had borders
since the beginning of time, since biblical times. There have been nations since Jesus times.
It's always been the case. And I don't think anywhere in the Bible does it talk about that's a bad
thing? You know, as much as I've read, I've never heard that is a bad thing. Doesn't mean that you've got to
hate other people based on their origin or based on where they come from.
But there are borders for a reason.
There are doors on your front of your house for a reason.
It's to keep people out that you don't know who they are.
There's a reason why we have a process to come into America to get into America.
There's a reason why we have systems that are set up that all of us citizens of the United
States or America have to abide by.
We have to pay taxes.
We have to do all these things to be U.S. citizens.
and if we don't, then we are violating the law.
We go to jail as American citizens, but it seems like, especially under Biden, that if you
were illegal, you got away with anything.
Not only did you get away with anything, you've got cards, you got hotel stays.
You were flown around the country wherever you wanted to go on Bowen 737 jets, private jets.
You know, the Biden administration trafficked children around the country to their handlers,
whoever the hell that is.
I mean, I think that was just part of the same reason why we still don't know the Epstein files.
We still don't know the Epstein list.
We still don't know who these kids are trafficked to and we're never going to.
It doesn't matter what side of the political aisle you're on.
It is the deep state system at work.
And they use both sides.
They use Democrats and they use Republicans.
And the reality of this is, as J.D. Vance says, and as I said before we even play the J.D.
Vance clip is that that woman was led into that position that she ended up dead because of the
ideologies and the things that she has constantly heard on the internet and through mainstream
media in the past four years under Biden and everything that has been taught to these people
and radicalized to these people.
That is what led her into the position she was in then to make the decisions that she made
to disobey ICE's orders.
And because I guess in her head, she was like, well, this is ICE.
This is Trump connecting dots, blah, blah, blah.
Screw it.
Ain't listening to them.
Going to do whatever the hell I can do.
I'm going to be a warrior.
Yeah.
And she was not even a long-term Minnesotian either.
She was actually from Kansas City.
And then when Trump came into office, she moved to Canada for a short time and then
moved back to Minnesota.
Yeah.
So she's not been there long.
And you think about the Minnesotian community.
Well, the community is totally changed.
It no longer is Minnesotaans.
It's now Somalian, Minnesotaians.
Yeah.
And there's definitely a ton of Muslims there.
And a lot of these people are illegal.
They were imported in there for votes or however you want to see it.
I mean, this is the way it is not just in Minnesota.
It's in Portland.
It's in Seattle.
It's in Los Angeles.
I mean, there's a reason why so much of the demographic and the states and the cities have
completely changed.
There's a reason.
And there's a reason why, you know, when Biden was president, that they were desperately trying to make laws to where you didn't have to have voter ID.
You didn't have to do any of this shit to vote for anybody.
And so I don't know necessarily how our politics or our government should be.
I don't because I think that I'm very disappointed right now in a lot of things.
But we're always going to try to say it like it is to shoot it straight with you guys.
do I think the officer was at fault?
As I said, given the circumstances, he's likely, even if you had, if you actually had a committee
of bipartisan people, like a jury, for example, of bipartisans.
So you had people on the left and right that was going to make the decision or the verdict
on whether or not this officer was in the right at the moment at the time, given all of
training and the law and everything else, I think a bipartisan jury would conclude that the officer
was legally allowed to shoot to stop the threat that he felt like was coming towards him or other
agents down the road.
There was a reason why they had the roads blocked off.
It was to stop all vehicles from going through because they wanted to, you know,
neutralized threats that could have been moving their way towards ICE operations.
And when this lady was coming.
coming around and basically not listening to ICE agents and then proceeded to just floor it and go towards an officer.
Not only was he probably probably in the right, I guess, for stopping the threat towards himself,
but also potentially stopping the threat towards other agents that were on the road or in the street.
Because if this lady is going towards you as a police officer and she's disobeying every order you're telling her,
do you think that she's just going to slow down as ice agents are in the road down
you know 50 yards away likely not she could have just plowed them too he may have saved lives
honestly we don't know but i want you guys to let us know what you think do you think that
this ice agent was in the right do you think that or do you think this woman was murdered
by ice i want to know your thoughts on this make sure that you uh you can send us an email
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But that's going to conclude it for this.
We got a lot more to talk about.
I think we're going to have Bart Cybrel back on the show very soon.
He's hot off his interview on the Danny Jones podcast where he talks to the astronaut
and basically confronts him about the fact that he does not believe this guy went to the moon.
And this guy seemed like he didn't know what the hell he was there for exactly.
But there's a lot of people that have reached out.
I was like, you've got to get Bart back on the show.
And you've got to ask him questions about that interview in particular.
And so me and Bart have been talking.
We're going to have him on probably within a week.
We also have someone.
She is a psychologist that is coming on to talk about freedom of speech,
especially in relation to all of this Israel stuff that were Israel saying that they want
to, I guess, forego the First Amendment, Tucker Cross and Ben Shapiro, kind of this back
and forth and Candace Owens.
We're going to have her on.
why freedom of speech is not just a constitutional right, but also a mental thing that you
really need as a human being to be able to express how you really feel.
And what the dangers are that if you're not able to express how you really feel.
So we're going to have a lot of good content coming out very soon, guys.
But that's going to do it for us right now.
We love each and every single one of you.
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