Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Minneapolis ICE Shooting: Was the Killing of ICU Nurse Alex Pretti Justified?

Episode Date: January 28, 2026

In this episode, we break down the fatal Minneapolis ICE-related shooting that left 37-year-old ICU nurse Alex Pretti dead during a federal immigration enforcement operation. Federal officials say Pre...tti was armed and that agents acted in self-defense, but multiple witness videos and eyewitness accounts appear to contradict key parts of the official narrative. We walk through the timeline of what happened, what the Department of Homeland Security claims, and what the footage seems to show, including moments where Pretti appears to be filming and attempting to help others during the encounter. With two federal agents firing shots and national attention now focused on the case, we examine whether this was a justified use of force or another example of federal agents escalating a situation that turned deadly. As investigations continue and political pressure mounts, this case has become a flashpoint in the national debate over immigration enforcement, civil liberties, and the use of deadly force. Tonight, we separate fact from spin and ask the question many Americans are asking, was the killing of Alex Pretti justified?Visit our merch store

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to Investigator with Podcast. I'm your host chat alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. On tonight's episode, another person shot and is dead after a confrontation with federal immigration agents in Minneapolis, and already the official version of events is being challenged. Alex Prattie, a 37-year-old ICU nurse, was shot and killed during an ice-related operation. Authorities say the shooting was justified, but video and witness accounts are already raising serious questions about whether deadly force was necessary. So now we're breaking out what we know, what does.
Starting point is 00:01:02 doesn't add up and what the footage appears to show. Was this a justified split second decision? Or was this a situation that never should have turned fatal? We're going to walk through the facts, the contradictions, and why this case is quickly becoming a national flashpoint. Guys, welcome to the show. It is January the 27th, 2026. The name of this song is Freedom by Tori Wolf.
Starting point is 00:01:22 And we are back. We've been gone a few days, but I was in the hospital one of those days. That kind of sucked. Just stomach-related stuff again. And then while we were gone, of course, all hell was yet again. Again, breaking loose in Minneapolis, Minnesota. This comes about three weeks after the Renee Good shooting, which, if you do not remember, which has not been that long, it was all over mainstream media.
Starting point is 00:01:44 She was in her vehicle. The ice agent tried to open her door. He commanded her to get out of the vehicle. That is when she decided to drive away and drive around the vehicle. I guess there was an ice agent in front of the vehicle at the time. And then he proceeded to shoot and kill her. and that kind of sparked a lot of protest, a lot of riots, which is what we're seeing now. And then, of course, you have this guy.
Starting point is 00:02:09 This guy is an ICU nurse at the local VA hospital there in Minneapolis, Minnesota. There was some rumors or some theories about he wasn't even from Minneapolis or he didn't live there, but I know that he is an actual ICU nurse there. And yet, so this guy gets involved in some other situation that was going on. I know ICE was operating in this block radius, kind of very similar to Renee Good. And there was a lot of protesters there. There were a lot of people blowing whistles. There were a lot of people being loud and obnoxious as they are doing and have been doing
Starting point is 00:02:38 since the Renee Good shooting. And he somehow got involved in this. They were in a confrontation. They take him to the ground. And then what proceeds after that? We're going to talk about and break down. And, you know, some of you are going to agree with what I believe about this. Some of you are not.
Starting point is 00:02:55 but, you know, I think that at the very least we have to talk about this stuff because I think there's something bigger with this. I've actually been asked by a few people. Nathan's one of those today. A couple other people says, what do you think the bigger picture is here with all this? Like, why is this happening in Minneapolis? Why is it happening in Minnesota? Why is it being so heavily publicized?
Starting point is 00:03:16 Because it's like we've already forgot so much about everything else that's going on, right? We forgot about the Epstein Files. We forgot about Iran or whatever's going to happen with Iran for a large, part. We've preferred, you know, the whole Israel thing and all that stuff is kind of being put to the back burner. Basically, everything has been put to the back burner. All you see right now on mainstream media is about Minneapolis and Minnesota and ICE and it's all shifted. The whole narrative is shifted to this. And this is the only thing anybody's talking about. And I did say that we're going to try not to do that many political episodes much anymore. But I think we have to talk about this one. Everybody's
Starting point is 00:03:52 talking about it. And then so after this episode, we will absolutely get back to the conspiracy stuff that we have been researching and heavily researching and getting ready for new episodes coming up. Yeah, and Chad and I have not really discussed this at all together. So I'm not even sure what his, you know, responses or what side he's taking or if he's even taking a side. But I know for me what I believe. And, you know, you might not agree with me either.
Starting point is 00:04:17 But we'll see. And we'll see if we agree with each other or not. But, you know, there's so much going on. And there's so many things that we don't. don't know yet. For example, all the police, they had police video on at the time. Yeah. And no one has seen the footage of that yet, you know, and I don't even know if they'll release
Starting point is 00:04:35 it or when they will release it. Yeah. But I think that will be a big, a bigger picture of what's going on from, but from what we could see from the videos, you have to make some kind of formation in your mind, I guess, of what you think is right and what is wrong. Yeah. There's a lot of people that are doing that, right? And this is one of those situations to me anyway that I think it's like watch the video, right?
Starting point is 00:05:00 Let's just watch the video. And instead of listening to media, instead of listening to whatever political party that you align with, watch the video for yourself and then come to at least a conclusion of what you see. Now, we're not talking about police tactics and how long it takes necessarily to draw your weapon or how long it takes you to make a decision. I mean, we will talk about that. I'm not asking you guys to do that. But what I'm simply saying is watch the video, as I think many of us have done so far now. And then come to the conclusion of what you believe with your own eyes, right? The reason why I want to do this podcast episode is because that there is so many divided people on this.
Starting point is 00:05:44 And I don't really know how you can be divided in some ways on this particular shooting. And we'll get into all of that in just. a moment. But let me go ahead and tell you the little backstory about all this first. A 37-year-old ICU nurse, Alex Pready. He was fatally shot. This was over the weekend by federal immigration officers. This was during a U.S. Border Patrol and Customs and Border Protection Operation in South Minneapolis. Now, the shooting has sparked widespread protest. I mean, there's been riots. They've been breaking shit in Minneapolis. Of course, this is what they all do. We've seen this during BLM. We saw this with the Antifa stuff. And to be honest, a lot of these people
Starting point is 00:06:21 that are protesting and rioting are very similar people that are rioting and protesting during BLM or Antifa or any of the other riots. And they're getting paid to do so. Yeah, a lot of them are. So the victim was identified by Alex Prettie, as we said, he's 37. He is a U.S. citizen.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Family members and friends described Preddy as a compassionate healthcare worker who was actively filming federal agents during an immigration enforcement action. And so according to federal officials, Prety was recording officers as they detained individuals during an ICE-related operation near 26th Street and Nicolet Avenue.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Witness video shows agents pushing a woman to the ground, at which point Preddy stepped in and continued filming. Federal authorities claimed Preddy was legally carrying a handgun and that officers shouted that he had a gun during a struggle. Officials say two federal officers, one Border Patrol, and one CBP officer discharged their weapons after a confrontation on the ground. However, there are multiple videos circulating online
Starting point is 00:07:16 appear to show Prattie holding a phone rather than a firearm at the moment agents moved in. Witnesses say he did not point or brandish a weapon. Preddy was reportedly disarmed, restrained, and then shot multiple times. Now, that's the key to this story, and we're going to talk about that. The Department of Homeland Security claims that the shooting was in self-defense, asserting Prattie posed a threat. However, civilian videos contradicts part of the federal narrative.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Witness statements say Prattie was already subdued. Family members deny he acted aggressively. You can pretty much see that to some degree on video. Gun rights groups note Prattie was a legal permit. holder. And so we also know about Predi having a prior ice encounter. Now, reporting has also revealed that Preddy had been injured days earlier during a separate encounter with federal agents, suffering a broken rib after being tackled at a protest involving ICE enforcement.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Sources say he had expressed fear about further encounters with agents. Now, the investigations are underway. We're hearing this from DHS. We're hearing this from Cash Patel, you know, all of the same actors that, you know, promised they were going to give us so much on the Epstein files. But DHS office and professional responsibility is reviewing the case. Body camera footage is under review. Minnesota officials are demanding independent investigations and federal agents involved
Starting point is 00:08:31 have been placed on administrative leave. Now, obviously, we talked about Renee Good, right? She was killed and that was on January 7th. And so these back-to-back killings, obviously, have completely intensified the protest and now have led to riots. And it's like when I heard about this new shooting, obviously we were not doing podcast at this time and we have had a pretty major ice storm and and snowstorm in our region i was just like i can't believe there's another shooting in minneapolis like this is likely
Starting point is 00:09:01 the worst place but you also have to understand you know on a daily basis officers do not encounter protest and riots or or mass amounts of people that are consistently screaming in your face getting involved in whatever your active police duties are trying to to, you know, I guess intervene in arrest or all of the stuff. Most police officers never have to deal with that in most cases unless you go to a fight or some type of incident like that to where there's large crowds. Then you call in extra backup for crowd control. That happens quite often, especially in big cities where, you know, you have some of the
Starting point is 00:09:42 suburbs and the regions around the city where there are a lot of people that are constantly in the streets. This happens oftentimes in Chicago and St. Louis and Philadelphia. And it happens more often in the summer because everybody's out, everybody's doing their thing. But this particular incident, everyone is basically arguing not whether or not the guy was posing a threat because I think the video, in my opinion, clearly shows that just because Alex Preddy was armed, he had a license to carry a firearm. He had a concealed carry permit. Just because he was armed, Doesn't mean that he is a threat. Doesn't mean he's a domestic terrorist.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Doesn't mean that he was going to engage or use this weapon on ice agents. Not unless he was pointing the gun at them. Which he wasn't, right? So we know that for a fact. It was it was holstered. It was always holstered the entire time in this encounter. It was only unholstered from his hip. When they had him on the ground, you see an ice agent come in.
Starting point is 00:10:42 He takes the weapon. And literally as this ice agent takes the weapon and is running back, to like secure the weapon away from where they have this guy down. He accidentally discharges. No, the ice agent accidentally discharges the firearm on the ground. Oh my gosh. I didn't even know that.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Yes. So the very first shot that happens in this entire video is the ice agent that disarms the firearm. And as he's turning and running away with the gun pointing towards the ground, it goes off like within a foot of all the other agents. And it was literally probably within five or five. six seconds after that, the agents, there was two or three agents, I believe, that started shooting Alex Prattie on the ground as they had him seduced. And they had already pepper sprayed him, too.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Yeah. But even the narrative you just read is not exactly what I saw in the video. What I saw in the video is, yeah, he may have been out there protesting or there. But what happened was a woman was pushed or shoved, like almost into a car down. She was pushed down. He ran to her defense, got her up. And then they were almost like hugging each other, the woman. And I think they were strangers. I don't think they knew each other. They were almost like hugging each other. And the ice agents were pulling and tugging at both of them.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Yeah. Yeah. Is that what you see? Well, because I think the ice agents were actively engaged in some type of something with the woman. Right. And I don't know what exactly it was, but they were. And that's when I believe he got involved. And then it seemed like they were trying to separate each other because he had actively put himself in that position, right?
Starting point is 00:12:18 So that was just very interesting to me. But the big thing here is that, as I said, I don't think it is a mystery of whether or not this Alex Pready guy was pointing a gun at the ICE agents or was trying to go for his gun or any of this stuff. And when he was on the ground, too, I just wanted to mention. I don't know if you saw it in the video. Before they even pepper sprayed him, they were punching him in the face on the ground. Yeah. Well, I mean, and the reason they're probably going to do this is because he was likely resisting. You know, he wasn't, he wasn't just, you know, he wasn't just giving himself to the ICE agents.
Starting point is 00:12:57 He probably believed in his head. I wasn't doing anything wrong. I was trying to, you know, film or whatever the case was, right? There was a lot of flopping going on with his body and stuff. Yeah. But he had like six agents on top of him. Yeah. But in that case, right, when you have agents that are actively taking you to the ground or whatever the case is, obviously your best bet is to not.
Starting point is 00:13:15 resist. I mean, that's, that's a pretty obvious thing. And especially if you do have a firearm. Now, I want to make something very clear. He is 100% in his complete legal right to have a firearm if people are protesting around. And it was just recently that Cash Patel came out, of course, and he had his opinion on this. And so I want to give you what Cash Patel recently said. And this was to Marie, I think it was Maria Bartramo, however to hell you say her name on Fox News. And listen. Thousands of people are marching through Minneapolis. They are targeting the Border Patrol.
Starting point is 00:13:51 I mean, it feels like the rhetoric and the protesting is only ramping up. What is your advice to the people right now who are outraged that this is a second killing at the hands of Border Patrol in two weeks? As Christy said, you cannot bring a firearm loaded with multiple magazines to any sort of protest that you want. It's that simple. don't have that right to break the law and incite violence. We will, of course, always protect your First Amendment speech. And if you peacefully protest, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. But you have seen a trend here, not just in Minnesota, but across the country in these protests
Starting point is 00:14:30 turning into violent scenarios and people attacking law enforcement. That's when you go over the line. And that's when law enforcement steps in. Okay. So he says here, you can't just bring a firearm to a protest. Yeah, you absolutely can. It is your second amendment right to be able to bring a firearm. to a protest because I don't know if we remember but Kyle Reddinghouse he brought his weapons.
Starting point is 00:14:50 That's what he did and he literally killed people and, you know, obviously he was charged with murder, but he got off for murder because it wasn't illegal what he did. Not only did, was it not technically illegal even though I think kind of in some ways, they were trying to pin him on some gun charges and stuff like that from over the county or whatever. Yeah, over the state lines. But regardless of that, yeah, you can have a firearm at a protest. There's nothing illegal about that.
Starting point is 00:15:12 I mean, there's a difference in you bringing a firearm. as a licensed concealed carry holder to a protest or bringing a firearm and waving it in the air, brandishing your weapon, pointing in a people. That is potentially considered an act of terror or whatever exciting violence with terroristic tendencies, I think is one of those federal charges. But he didn't do any of this. I mean, he had a concealed carry permit, which means that it was under his jacket. No one's seen the weapon on him.
Starting point is 00:15:40 And, you know, he has every single legal right to bring a firearm anywhere he wants to. that is legally permissible. And I just wanted to add, too, in this interview, if you listen to it longer, she goes on to Prush Cash Patel on the situation and what's going on. I could tell in her interview she didn't even feel like this was a proper shooting. Yeah. And the reason why Sherry's bringing that up, too, is because, you know, Maria Bartramo, which is on Fox News.
Starting point is 00:16:07 She's been on Fox News for a very long time. You know, Fox News obviously is the Republican-leaning news agency. So the fact that mainstream media in any way is questioning it should tell you, especially Fox News, that something is not right with this shooting and there's something that should be done about it. Now, I want to also talk about this. The NRA, which I don't necessarily 100% trusting more, but the NRA has officially came out as of today on their social media as said they demand a clear and transparent investigation into this shooting. because the reason why the NRA is going to get involved in this is because everything we keep hearing by the Trump administration by Cash Patel, Donald Trump himself and so on, is that Preddy was armed. He was armed and they keep mentioning he had multiple magazines and all of this stuff like he was going to come shoot up a school. That's what they want you to believe in your head is that this guy was going to come shoot up this protest or he was going to come shoot these agents or whatever they're trying to put in your mind.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Now, what I will say, and I'll give the people this that agree and say, oh, it's completely fine with this. You know, the shooting is justified. And I know most Republicans are saying that. I'm seeing it all over social media. I'm seeing it in people that message us. But, guys, the reality of this is, is like, I'm seeing a lot of people on the right celebrating his death by at the hands of ICE agents. I'm seeing people saying, well, you know what? You F around and find out.
Starting point is 00:17:35 He got what he deserved. Don't bring a farm to a protest. Don't start interacting with ice agents when they're doing their job. Although I agree with that. I don't think you should obstruct ice agents doing their job because that is a lawful offense. That is obstruction. You can get charged with that. You can be arrested for that.
Starting point is 00:17:51 And likely if he would still be alive today, I would assume that that would probably more than likely be the charge they would have charged him with, which was obstruction, especially if they said, hey, leave. This is our scene. Get the hell out of here. And he refused to do so. Then yes, you can be charged with obstruction. especially if you were within so many feet of wherever this thing is going on.
Starting point is 00:18:12 If they were handling a situation with a woman that was potentially part of their investigation, and he's there and he keeps screwing with them, and he's within a certain radius, yes, there are laws that you can be charged with obstruction. And these First Amendment auditors, they test this line all the time. You can go on YouTube and watch any video you want. They'll literally go to code. They'll look at how far they're allowed to be. to not be charged with obstruction
Starting point is 00:18:39 and they will literally go to that line and I got to be honest, it's actually pretty close to officers that you can be filming if you're on a public sidewalk or whatever the case is without them being able to charge you with obstruction. And, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:53 we just see the videos of right before it happened. We don't see five, ten minutes before it happens. We don't know exactly what was going on. All we know is what we see and what the footage is. And from what I see, the ice agents were being pretty, brutal even with the woman.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Yeah. And when they pushed her down and he was helping her up and they were hugging each other and then they get him down to the ground and maybe he was wrestling and trying to restrain them from arresting him. And maybe that's why they were more physical. But I mean, they were punching him in the face, spraying him with pepper spray. Where is the thought that you should de-escalate with a firearm when you have six people on top of him?
Starting point is 00:19:32 I almost think that when the officer that retrieved his weapon. and was disarming and it went off that maybe when they heard that pop that was when they started shooting yeah i thought the same thing too i mean because we know at least it looks like on the video especially the slowed down video that when the ice agent took the weapon and as he's starting to run back towards i guess like the police vehicles or the ice vehicles the firearm goes off within two feet of the actual agents that are on top of prety and it's like i said it's just seconds later The shots are being put on pretty. So it's possible, right?
Starting point is 00:20:10 Maybe they thought he was shooting and that's why they started shooting. Either way is kind of crazy. Now, it's, you know, it's 100% within the right of the ice agent to disarm someone they are actively fighting with on the ground at the time is mind blowing, I guess, to me, that it was able to go off because he would have likely had his finger on the trigger or near the trigger, obviously, as he's running away. I don't know why you would ever do that. But, you know, neither he's.
Starting point is 00:20:35 nor there. Now, I also want to give you an insight from someone that says that this was completely justified. And this is Myron Gaines. For those who Miring Gaines is, he is the guy that is the host of the Fresh and Fit podcast. And so I want to be completely fair on all sides here. And this is his thoughts on what happened that day. And he thinks it was justified. Listen, I go out facts and our feelings shot. All right. So I need you guys to like not be bitches. So the number of the guys got to understand is that when it comes to use of force from a law enforcement perspective, they're always going to be judged on
Starting point is 00:21:08 was it reasonable? It's not about how you feel, what you think, it is, wasn't it reasonable based on the facts and circumstances known to the person at the time they conducted the self-defense maneuver or in this case would be the shooting,
Starting point is 00:21:24 right? That's what it comes down to. So number one, we got to understand 20-20 hindsight, all these camera angles, none of that fucking matters at all, to be honest. draw. None of that matters. What matters is what was known to the officers that shot at the time that they shot. Okay? That's what matters. I want to be explicitly clear about this. Because a lot of you motherfuckers, especially you progressives, you guys like to fucking Monday morning quarterback, well, Meyer and I think this, I feel this, I saw the video like this, I saw that, I saw this,
Starting point is 00:21:52 none of that fucking matters. And I'm yelling at it so you guys understand because I know I'm going to get a bunch of fucking retorts are going to be in their feelings. Number one, you guys got to understand from the officer's perspective. They're operating in, doing a enforcement operation and a hostile location, Minneapolis. So they're already on guard. People are agitating them. People are bringing bells. People are taking pictures of their license place.
Starting point is 00:22:13 People are following them around. It's already a high-end area or like a high-end security area. Now, this woman, we don't know what the fuck happened before, but an ice guy shoves her, right? As we see right here. So this guy is dealing with these people. They're probably impeding them or stopping them from doing something. Okay. when you push the lady, get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:22:39 And then this one comes near him. Pushes her back too. And then this guy puts his hand on the fucking idiot, bro. Why would you do that? Mind your business. You're armed. And you're touching a fucking ice agent in Minneapolis where these niggas are on high alert, bro. All right, but I want to stop here for a second because I did want to make this point of this video.
Starting point is 00:23:05 So as this ice agent is shut up. loving this girl probably 30 feet from where she was, right? That may have been justified. The ice agent was trying to get her the hell out of there. Now, I believe this is pretty here that is right next to the woman that the ice agent just shoved 30 yards. I would say 30, 40 yards down the road. So as he is shoving the woman, this guy is just standing there filming. Now, he is, he is still 35, 40 yards away from where the ice agents actively were.
Starting point is 00:23:36 when they started shoving the woman. And then as soon as they shove her, they shove him and push him back. And he's just, he's just standing there like filming like, right. He has his phone in his hand, not a gun.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Yeah, he has his phone in his hand. He's standing there filming. He's a good 40 yards away from where the ice agents originally were. And then this ice agent just comes and like tries to power blast him and push him backwards. Right. And so, yes, you do see like,
Starting point is 00:24:01 Pretty, I guess, in this case put his hand like on the agent. Like, what the hell? You know, what are you doing? like pushing him kind of pushing him back. And then this is kind of how things start escalating.
Starting point is 00:24:11 So let's listen to more of what Myron says. And by the way, the only reason I'm playing Myron Gaines is obviously as so many people know who he is from the Fresh and Fit podcast, but he also was a police officer. So he was a police officer before he became this huge personality and figure on social media. He was actually one of the guys for those that have heard anything about the clavicular guy
Starting point is 00:24:32 and Nick Fuentes and Tristan Tate, Andrew Tate, Sneko, and Myron was the ones that were at the club in Miami. Oh, okay. He wasn't a jerk off, was he? Well, I mean, I don't know. The jerk off guy that was streaming? No, that's clab. That's who you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Yeah, he's a jerk off. Well, there are a lot of them in that little bus. There's jerk off. A lot of them in the short bus were jerkoffs. I mean, let's just be honest. But yes, he was one of them. And he's just kind of known on his podcast, a fresh and fit podcast, for bringing all these girls, like only fans girls,
Starting point is 00:25:06 and these girls that basically just do not give a shit about their morals or values or anything else. And he'll bring on, like, him and like a couple other guys, and they'll just basically sit there and just shit talk the girls. And people love that because a lot of people watching, and especially they'll let the girls talk. And then when the girls say all this shit, it's like no one blames the guys for what they're saying to the girls.
Starting point is 00:25:30 You know what I mean? I think it's a bunch of guys. with low self-esteem personally, but I don't know. We'll go on with that. But anyways, so right here, we're at the point where he starts pushing Pretti, and we'll go from there. Oh, man. Common sense.
Starting point is 00:25:46 And then you get pepper sprayed. And then you're resisting. I know they're telling him get on the ground and he's not listening. And you got a gun on your hip. So stupid, bro. I can hear, like, you can hear gun. He gets it out there. You can see it right here in his hand.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Goes off because it's a fucking shitty-ass six hour. Hits the ground. And then they don't know that the gun went off behind them. They think it was him. And they shoot. This is unfortunate. It's like a very unfortunate situation. But the reality is it's a clean shoot.
Starting point is 00:26:31 And, um, guys, this is a lesson to be learned. Guys, don't resist the police while you're fucking armed. Okay. do not resist the police when you're armed. Do not touch a police officer if you're armed. Ever. Ever. This was just bad judgment.
Starting point is 00:26:47 As someone who's a concealed carry individual, I can't believe he did this. Like, this is stupidity on another level, bro. Does that mean he deserves to die? No. But I'll tell you this. This is a lawful shooting 100%. They just are not going to go to jail.
Starting point is 00:27:01 It was 100% reasonable. Because I'll tell you all this. If you were that agent and you're fucking trying to resist, you're trying to grab a guy and get him to stop, then someone screams, gun, gun, and gun, and then all of a sudden you hear a gun shot, you're going to shoot too. That's the reality, and that's what happened. Very important, if you guys understand, was the shooting reasonable, given the facts of
Starting point is 00:27:21 circumstances known to the individual when he pulled the trigger and killed that individual, the answer is going to be yes. He had a gun, he resisted, he heard a gun shot. Doesn't matter if you heard the gun shot from an accidental discharge or someone giving it off. He could see him going like this in his right side, right? All the agent was able to see was this basically. All right. He has other trained officers around him that said gun.
Starting point is 00:27:44 He heard a gun shot. He sees him going like this. He's going to shoot, bro. Clean shoot all day. All right. So that's Marron's point of view. And listen, I mean, I completely understand his point of view as far as your reaction time, what the situation was at the time.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Was it a justified shoot based on officers around you saying gun, gun, gun? Then as the guy disarms Prattie, the gunshot goes. off, which everyone around knew it wasn't them. So they automatically thought this guy must have got to his gun and was trying to shoot. And then they shot. So the likelihood of whether or not these agents will be charged or not is slim and especially considering if the federal government has the investigation and no one else is involved in it. They won't be charged.
Starting point is 00:28:30 But the biggest point here also is just the fact that, yes, the guy was at a protest. Yes, he did have a firearm. but he was 40 yards away from this from the initial incident where they were pushing the girl 40 yards down the street and he was just sitting there filming and then they started pushing him pushing him he he put his hand up then they pepper sprayed him and started dragging him to the ground right so you have to look at the circumstances of why this guy was thrown to the ground and put in or was I guess I tried to be put in handcuffs at the time I'll be honest with you if I'm sitting there at a protest. And let's just say it has nothing to do with ICE or immigration enforcement. Say that we're all out there protesting a tyrannical government. Say that, say that Trump or Biden or Kamala Harris or whoever, whoever's president of time doesn't leave office and we're out there protesting. And we see federal agents that are basically coming down on protesters or whoever are trying to keep people out of whatever their operation is. They come down and they start getting into it and throwing someone
Starting point is 00:29:34 towards me and I'm there and they start pushing me back for no reason whatsoever. Am I not going to, in my opinion, I'm not, am I not going to put my hand up? And then I get pepper sprayed. I'm getting thrown to the ground. This is what's likely going through this guy's mind. Are you just going to just give up and whatever? I mean, I know it sounds crazy. Most people should.
Starting point is 00:29:54 But in his mind, he was just like he was already there to protest what he believes, this pretty guy, is ice overstepping their boundaries or. being too violent, especially after an or nay good shooting. He already didn't believe that was justified. And now he's being taken to the ground and pushed down. Yeah, and he just had a broken rib a week before. But I have to say, when you do go to a concealed weapons class, they teach you what to do and what not to do. Yeah, like in South Carolina, for example, that's the number one thing you're, that's the first thing you have to say when an officer comes to your door is that you have a firearm.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Now, in constitutional carry states, you don't have to do that. Like in South Carolina, you don't have to have a concealed carry permit. to have it concealed or open carry or basically anywhere you want that is not prohibited from firearms. So you don't have to tell an officer in that case in South Carolina that you have a firearm. That's the way it should be, in my opinion, because it is a constitutional carry. We do have a Second Amendment for a reason. But the reason why I'm saying this, guys, is not because I'm trying to take up for people that are protesting or riding against ICE. I believe that we have to get people out of the country that came here illegally under Joe Biden
Starting point is 00:31:00 because he literally had the borders wide open. that is what literally most everyone voted for Trump for because they knew like they knew what happened over the four years that we had Joe Biden in office they knew our borders were wide open we bitched about it we had multiple podcasts about a wide open border we probably had 15 episodes on this and we said like what are we going to do to protect Americans because now we don't know who the hell is in this country we have no idea what gang members terrorists you name it are here because Joe Biden let everybody in so when I see ice and border patrol and immigration enforcement out there doing their jobs, trying to get people off the
Starting point is 00:31:37 streets and out of our country that need to be out of our country, I don't fault them for doing that. And I think that ICE agents should be able to do their job. But also, we have to understand that we went from a country in four years that had ICE and Border Patrol basically doing nothing because they couldn't do anything to then a complete 180 doing the exact opposite. And not only that, the amount of hiring that the Trump administration and the federal government has had to do to make up for the amount of agents that were either laid off or weren't able to do their jobs or fired during the Biden administration, the amount of agents they had to fast track
Starting point is 00:32:17 in to Border Patrol and ICE is astounding because of the amount of people that they're going to have to deal with. They went on a mass hiring spree. So it was a very fast kind of turn up. as far as how many agents we have to get in and we have to fast track them through, get them through as fast as we can and send them on the streets. And now some of these guys are newer agents
Starting point is 00:32:41 that have never dealt with riots and protests and all this stuff. They do have the full backing of the federal government and the Trump administration and things like this potentially can happen. He wasn't touching his firearm. He was not trying to take his firearm out. He was 40 yards away from where the ICE agents were actively working. And I think he was.
Starting point is 00:33:01 was actually even further because there was just an outside ice agent that was kind of setting a perimeter 40 yards away. This is where the woman was. And as they started pushing her 40 yards down the road, this is where this guy was just standing there filming. And then they pushed him just out of nowhere. Because, and by the way, this is not the first time we've seen this. Ice agents are pretty, pretty brutal with people in that area. It doesn't matter if you're protesting and whatever, they'll push your ass right out of the way. If you're anywhere near them. And I get it because they're having to deal with people that could be violent towards them that want them dead probably that are threatening their lives they're taking picture license plates showing up at their hotels it's a
Starting point is 00:33:39 recipe for disaster though because you have these agents that are you know they're they're on heightened sense of alert and then you have the protesters that are kind of the same and and they're trying to keep pushing well you just took my words right out of my mouth everything i wrote down you just take away from me sorry but that's what i was going to say is basically everything is escalated in Minnesota right now and everyone's on heightened alert. There's so much going on. You know, the protesters are heightened. The ICE officers are heightened.
Starting point is 00:34:08 And, you know, it's a little scary there. And because of that, I think things are escalating higher than they should. I think this could have been prevented, though, if the ICE agents weren't so brutal and aren't pushing and shoving and hitting and punching and trying to de-escalate instead of escalate the situation. Yeah. I think they could have de-escalated it and everyone still could be alive today. There are many ICE agents that are interacting with the public around Minneapolis right now,
Starting point is 00:34:38 especially after the past couple of days. And this woman, for example, I'll just give you an example of kind of how and how they interact with people and kind of what they're saying. And listen, like I said, I'm pro ice. I'm just pointing out that it seems like the kind of relationship between the community, the people, the protesters, whatever is rampant. up and it's getting more violent it's getting more extreme and that's not going to go good and there's a bigger reason why i'm bringing all this up but let me just play this to you real quick
Starting point is 00:35:07 there's a woman filming uh she's not really necessarily right near the ice agent but he comes up to her this way says listen shame on you listen have y'all not learned from the past couple of days have you not learned what what's our lesson here what do you want us to learn following federal agents give me my phone back So there you go. So he started to slap her phone and beat her phone out of her hand. And then he grabs the phone and, like, throws it. And so she's just, she's standing there probably 100 yards away from where they were.
Starting point is 00:35:40 And this agent comes over, starts to say this. Say, have you not learned? You can't do this as federal agents. Not for people that are standing there just filming. They're not talking to you. They're not doing any of that. I saw the full video on this. And just like this incident, for example, this guy standing on the side of the road,
Starting point is 00:35:56 I'm filming. And this ice agent pulls up. and this is what he says to him, listen. I will tell you this, brother. What? You know, I will tell you this. Do you erase your voice? I raise your voice.
Starting point is 00:36:07 If I raise my voice, you'll erase my voice. Exactly, yeah. Yeah. Are you serious? You said, if I raise my voice, you'll erase my voice? There I go. I mean, it's just they're almost trying to instigate to some way. And I've seen tons of videos this.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Ice agents interacting with people that are filming or whatever. And they're just constantly kind of doing that. don't know. All I'm saying is that it's not necessarily good when you have a situation in Minneapolis that's already out, it's already crazy. And then you're going to have ice agents that continue to kind of do this. And like I said, I'm all for ice. But I'm just telling you this pretty situation is different. It is different because he wasn't actively around where they were doing their thing. He was down there filming 40 yards away. And then he gets kind of brought into this because they pushed this girl down to where he was, which is where they were taking her to get out of
Starting point is 00:37:01 their way, which is where he was. And then they start pushing him and screwing with him. Well, I think that, too, that Trump kind of agrees with us as well, because he did have a conversation with Tim Walts. And they have come to some kind of agreement where they're getting closer on the same page of what's going on. And I think that, too, the protesters out there are severely in a wrong. a lot of times, they're doing things that are impeding investigations and you just can't do that.
Starting point is 00:37:31 You can be out there on the sidewalk and protest and shout and ring your bells and keep them up all night in their hotels or whatever you want to do. But when you are getting in a way in the way of an active investigation, that's when you're impeding the law. Yeah. No, you're 100% correct. And, you know, when you say Trump kind of agrees, well, I will say this, and this has been going all over social media.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Trump, he was outside. He was about to get in a Marine one. And there was a lot of reporters there and reporters were asking him about, you know, I guess, Pretti and the situation that happened. And this is what Trump had to say. Listen. Mr. Freddie, your deputy chief of SAS said that. You don't think so? You're not being said, you know, he can't have guns.
Starting point is 00:38:25 You can't walk in with guns. What about the second? And they're walking with guns. You can't do that. But it's just a very unfortunate incident. So he said, you can't have guns. You just can't walk in with guns. That's this one of the thing he said.
Starting point is 00:38:39 and then he doubled down on this. He was in this, I don't know what building this was, but he was in some building. So he was in pretty close quarters, and that's what he said. Do you agree with the assessment from some of your own officials that Alex Freddie is a domestic terrorist or an assassin? Well, I haven't heard that,
Starting point is 00:38:56 but certainly he shouldn't have been carrying a gun. But all of, hey, look, bottom line, everybody in this room, we view that as a very unfortunate incident. Everyone, unless you're a stupid person, very, very unfortunate. I don't like that he had a gun. I don't like that he had two fully loaded magazines.
Starting point is 00:39:14 That's a lot of bad stuff. And despite that, I say that's a very unfortunate. It's a very bad stuff that he had a gun and had two magazines. He is a legal concealed carry permit holder. Well, I guess Trump just stuck his foot in his mouth because, yeah, that's not what he goes for or believes in. Supposedly. But what's been going on behind scenes, they got the main, I guess.
Starting point is 00:39:39 I guess director out of Minneapolis. They have moved them out of there. Greg Bovino. Yeah. And Tom Homan is coming in to take control over there. Yeah, Bovino is like kind of the guy that is essentially over all of the operations in Minneapolis. He's been the guy that has, I think he actually was the one that had access to social media. So he was the one that was talking a lot on social media.
Starting point is 00:40:02 He's the one that's kind of always in media pictures where they're showing him come out of hotels or they're showing him kind of walking through. some of these protests, like in the middle protest, and he'll have like 30 or 40 ice agents behind him. He'll be the guy in the front. What it kind of reminds me of, what that kind of reminds me of was kind of like the Ukraine thing, actually, when they will, when they would parade Zelensky out and he would have a bunch of guys there. And he would always just be walking through and stuff. And it would kind of show Bovino, which is the operating director for ICE out there in Minneapolis. It always showed him a very similar light. What I'm getting to here, guys, is that I'm not anti-ice.
Starting point is 00:40:37 I'm not anti-ice getting illegal people out of her. country. If you guys have listened to any of our episodes ever, you will know that we're 100% for ICE and getting illegals out of our country because of the fact we just cannot risk terrorists or anybody else doing a 9-11, even though who the hell knows who actually did that. We just cannot risk that stuff. And we cannot risk who came in. Now, I'm also not necessarily saying that at this point, we should go after every single person that came through illegally. what I am 100% for is the ice and customs to be able to go out and get the people that are criminals that have criminal records that are bad people and gangs, so on and so forth.
Starting point is 00:41:17 I think we should be getting all of those people like without hesitation. Right. I agree. But, you know, at the same time, we have to also understand Trump's not the only one that's been protesting people. Obama's done it. Biden kind of, well, Biden didn't do it necessarily, even though ICE and Border Patrol was still deporting people when Biden,
Starting point is 00:41:36 was president, which would kind of blow people's minds, considering the borders are wide open. But I mean, Clinton's done this. Obama's done it. Bush has done it. Everybody's done it. And Trump's actually behind right now, Obama. Obama, his first year, I believe he deported more people than Trump has. And that's why the people that were really voting for Trump saying we want Trump because we want to get the illegals out of our country. We don't want our country to become not America anymore to the point where it's like we don't even know what our values are anymore. those people are like well he's not doing his job he's not doing what he said he was going to do because he's so far behind and so some people are like well maybe he's just instigating this but go ahead well i just wanted to add too that you know i've seen a lot of people going back on back and forth on facebook about this and talking about you know going out in the street and just killing people and murdering people you know why don't you just get the bad people out this is what a lot of people are saying but you got to remember when by Biden was in administration, they would have these criminals locked up in jail.
Starting point is 00:42:39 And instead of letting them go out the front door, they let them go out the back door. I would be waiting in the front door for them to re-arrest them to get them out of here. And they were sneaking them out of the back doors of these prisons. Oh, yeah, for sure. No, it's wild. And I'm only saying this because I want you guys to go back to the first thing I said on the beginning of the show about why are they doing this. Like why is this happening in Minneapolis? Why are we seeing this?
Starting point is 00:43:05 Are they trying to just take our attention away from other things that's going on? What's the deal? We're going to get to that. But before we get to that, I do have a video that I want to play. And I think that he did an amazing breakdown of this because he's, the name of the YouTube channel is actually Black Scout Survival. And I'm going to play this without kind of interjecting too much. But I want you to hear his thoughts on this. Now, this guy was a spec ops guy.
Starting point is 00:43:29 he's a patriot he loves his country but this is just his breakdown and viewpoint of this and i agree with a lot of what he says here listen before we get in this video i need to say something because people are too emotional right now when people are emotional they stop thinking so i'm going to cut to the noise if you've watched my content for the past month this moment shouldn't be a surprise to you because what you're watching right now is bar the slow ideological fracture of country into hostile tribes. And Balkanization only has one destination, and that's civil conflict. Not because people want it, but because people start cheering the removal of constitutional
Starting point is 00:44:25 rights as long as is happening to the other team. And that's the part that should scare you. Because once you cheer that logic, you forfeit the right to complain when the same logic is applied to you. Now, here's the pattern, and it's undeniable because people cheered when Charlie Kirk was brutally murdered because he was on the other side. The riot was outraged. They said it was barbaric, said it was unjust. Now we're saying the inverse. The rhetoric I've seen over the past 24 hours about a guy, we're going to get into the details of it,
Starting point is 00:45:11 but I've seen them attacking his constitutional rights. And because he's perceived to be by the other team, people are cheering it again. Different politics, same sickness. That is dehumanization. You're best of all I've talked about this. It's how societies rot from the inside. And it's happening real time.
Starting point is 00:45:36 I'm actually very shocked. I'm going to cut through the noise, though. You're going to see, we're going to discuss this in debt. So before you cast judgment, watch the entire of the video. But again, this is exactly what I'll warn about. You'll cheer the Patriot Act because the targets is them. You cheer for mass surveillance because it watches them. You cheer for gun restriction because it disarms them.
Starting point is 00:46:03 So the same thing a few months back whenever people were cheering to remove trans guns rights. Not that I'm cool with that ideology at all, but I'm not into removing anyone's gun rights because I'm believing the Constitution. And you don't realize you're training the system to do one simple thing. ignore the Constitution when it's convenient. So when the other team in power changes, and it always does, you won't get to speak. You already surrender to your principle.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Now, keep all of that in your head as we talk about what actually happened here, because this isn't about left versus right. This is about the rules, what they mean. I wanted to play this intro too, because I want to break down what he's saying. And this is exactly my point. on this entire situation is that I see so many people on the right, so many Republicans that are actively cheering on his death because he had a firearm.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Yeah. Because he was a legal firearm carrier that went through the process to get a concealed carry permit that can legally obtain a firearm that can legally bring a firearm to a protest. And yet we see everyone saying, well, he had a firearm. So he deserves to die. So does that mean that if you show up, and that was the point I was trying to make earlier, if you show up to a protest from a tyrannical government,
Starting point is 00:47:33 but you legally can carry a firearm, which by the way, you probably wouldn't be in a tyrannical government at that point because you wouldn't have a firearm, they would just kill you. Right. But then people are looking at it kind of similar to this because the excuse we've seen this entire time is,
Starting point is 00:47:46 well, he had a firearm. Yeah, he had it legally, though. And they're like, yeah, but we don't care. We don't care if he had it legally. We don't care that he had a concealed carry permit. we killed him, you know, and that was like the first thing that they said. And it's not just that. It's not just Trump saying.
Starting point is 00:48:02 It's not just Cash Patel saying. It's not just any of them saying it. It is mainstream media pushing it down your throats on a everyday basis since this happened two days now. They've consistently said, well, he had a firearm. And he had double magazines. You know, and it's like, I think a lot of people are freaking out right now. I'm seeing all over social media and they're saying, what the hell is Trump saying? You're not allowed to have a firearm?
Starting point is 00:48:25 Mm-hmm. You can't carry a firearm. You can't have two magazines. That's bad stuff. That's what Trump said. And then you got Cash Mattel speaking the exact same shit. Well, we can't have firearms. Well, and I have to point out, too, that the people on the left are escalating these things by getting on social media and saying, you know, this is outrageous.
Starting point is 00:48:45 This is wrong. You need to be in the streets. You need to be doing this. You know, it's almost like when Obama was out there when I think all the major protests first started. enticing protests and riots. It's okay to peacefully protest. I agree with that 100%. You have a right to your First Amendment and your Second Amendment,
Starting point is 00:49:07 but you do not have a right to riot and to destroy property. And in this case, I don't think this guy was doing that. I think he had his phone out and he was filming it to cover it to say, hey, look, I'm filming you. But he was not impeding investigation. He was not in the way. they pushed the girl towards him yeah no absolutely i 100% agree with that and the reality of where this all probably is heading guys is that they're and we've been saying this for years you know
Starting point is 00:49:35 when i say they we're talking about the deep state federal government whoever is really in charge of this whole thing this whole it's almost like a simulation this whole puppet show uh you know they want to get us to fight each other it seems i mean it's it's almost like they are trying to lure us in to a hunger games type of where they just all watch it happen. And eventually they'll turn the attention away from just ice and they'll turn the attention against each other. And I don't know exactly what that will take, but we've seen that attempted multiple times.
Starting point is 00:50:09 I mean, you look at the BLM stuff. You look at what the Biden and Harris administration consistently talked and how they talked about white men or, you know, if you were white, you are automatically racist, you are a nationalist, you were a this or that, or, you know, a, you know, a. anti-LGB-T-Q trans-hater or whatever. A neo-Nazi. Neo-Nazi. I mean, we've heard it all.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Like, if you question anything that the deep state is doing or the country is involved in deep state are doing, you are labeled X, Y, and Z. You know, it used to be conspiracy theorists. Now it's neo-Nazi. Now it's anti-Semite or a white supremacist or you just go down the list. But what I think is happening here, in my opinion, is they're trying to turn people against each other. I think that as this guy says here from the video we just played, you know, this is what they're going to do. They're going to tribal. We're already tribalized, but they really want to pit us against each other so bad to where it will inevitably end in civil conflict, a civil war.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Yeah. And they've been trying this a long time. Even like Black Lives Matter, they were pitting people against each other, but it didn't work with that. So now they're trying this. Yeah, for sure. And I think that, you know, eventually we don't know what's going to happen in the future. All I know is that this thing is ramping up and ramping up and ramping up. And, you know, Cash Patel just came out today and said, well, we have found who is funding all of these protests and riots.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Now, what I will say is James O'Keefe actually went undercover. He's been undercover. He was undercover when Preddy was actually shot. He was there for a couple of days prior. He was one of the protesters in the protest. And he had his whole face covered. Oh, wow. He had undercover cameras and microphones and everything.
Starting point is 00:51:57 He had multiple people in the crowds. And whereas he didn't necessarily find paid agitators, there was some talk of that amongst some of the crowd. But even as James O'Keefe himself says, like a lot of these people, like there are some paid protesters here, we believe. But most of these people are just believe. They believe they're ideological about it. They are standing up for what they are believing in.
Starting point is 00:52:20 but you know don't think that everyone you're seeing out there protesting or paid protesters that's just not the way it is and that's not how you know provocateurship works you know they'll bring in a few agitators to destroy stuff or start destroying a building right or say for example that that hotel that the ice agents were staying in or at least a few were staying in the night before last and so someone was tipped off about that somehow and they started painting ice someone started painting ice on all the hotels that ice was staying at. It was also interesting that James O'Keefe also talks about in his undercover investigation.
Starting point is 00:52:57 He says somehow these people have 100% access to, you know, license plate readers as far as like they can tell who you are, what your history is, everything. They're running people's license plates. They're knowing what your name is, your history, where you work. They know where you're staying at, what hotels you're in, what cars you're driving. They know everything. And what that tells me is, and why these people might know this, is that there might be federal agent provocateurs in these crowds that are actively helping or assisting this thing to spiral
Starting point is 00:53:30 out of control further and further and further. And you may say, well, Trump's in office. That's not going to happen. Well, yeah, but we also thought Epstein files were going to be released. We also thought that we weren't going to be lied to about that. We also thought so many things, at least for me, that I thought was going to happen that didn't. So I don't necessarily put so much trust that now our. federal government is all the sudden amazing and perfect because Trump's in.
Starting point is 00:53:51 I mean, or do you want to say the same thing about Cash Patel? Oh, well, Cash Patel is our FBI director now. So we can trust the FBI for sure. If you're one of those out there that's like, oh, well, Cash Patel's amazing. Like, I don't know what you're talking about. Well, you obviously have not been following what the hell's been going on in the past year. And especially how they've been trying to protect, not the victims, but the actual perpetrators, the elites of the people that were raping children.
Starting point is 00:54:13 You know, that's who they're protecting. That's who they're more concerned about protecting. And there was something someone said the other day that said, Washington is where good men go bad. And that's an interesting thought because you can be a good person. You can have good judgment. You can have good morals. You can have good intentions going to Washington. But at some point, Tom, it may not be the first term you're in.
Starting point is 00:54:38 It may not be whatever. But at some point, they are going to get to you. And if you do come back in office, say, that like Trump came back in office, his second term, a very, very pivotal moment in American history and culture and our future. Trump's winning of the 2024 election, I think, was more important and we can imagine. I think what the deep state and the globalists and these people that wanted to see America destroyed, they were so close.
Starting point is 00:55:06 They had Biden and Harrison. They had everything they wanted. They had the wide open borders. They had lockdowns and all of this during COVID, which started, by the way, somewhat under Trump and especially with the vaccine and all that. But, you know, it was fast progressing. And then Trump got in. And so they have to get to him.
Starting point is 00:55:25 You know, they tried to assassinate Trump. They tried to kill him multiple times. And so don't think that the same people that were in charge with all of the money and all the trillions and gazillions of dollars that were working behind the scenes, don't think those people just went away and nothing's going on. And don't think also at the same time that there's not heavy influence, whether it's those same people that were behind Biden and Harris. I guarantee you, though, there are a lot of those same people that were doing all the bad shit
Starting point is 00:55:52 and corrupting our nation behind Biden, Harris, that are also now also corrupting Trump. And I can just give you some examples. I mean, for example, we know what happened during COVID. We know how much we can't trust pharmaceutical. We know how much we can't trust the, you know, the various health agencies and the social media companies that lied to us, censored us, banned us. but yet Trump has all of these people in the Oval Office. He has Pfizer CEO and saying how good of a guy is and a great friend of his literally like two months after he got in.
Starting point is 00:56:25 And it's like everybody was just kind of blown away the people that paid attention because they're like, wait, Trump is in the Oval Office and he's inviting Pfizer CEO and he's saying how great of a guy is. And he has Mark Zuckerberg at the table with them. And he's like cheering him on. Yeah. So it's the people that we're not necessarily electing to be in power, but they're still in power. Yeah. These people are never going to be out of power. They control and run the world. And I think that they're going to eventually 100% control us. They're going to control the United States or America. I think they're very close. And I think that all of this stuff that we're seeing right now is just the lead up to more control. And I believe personally, this is the lead up to a tyrannical regime. And I don't know that it's going to be under Republicans or Democrats. I have no idea. But what I do think is going to happen that eventually stuff is going to be so bad. to where some president, whether it's Trump, whether it's the next Democrat, whoever, they're going to declare some type of, not necessarily insurrection act.
Starting point is 00:57:22 That is one way you could do it, but some type of federal act that would allow them to stay in power. Like a martial law. Kind of like a martial law, something similar. But to where it's like you are now acting in wartime. So you don't have to leave office. You are actively a president in wartime scenario or situation. and obviously the way this country is going, especially with not just the Minneapolis and the ice stuff, there's so much stuff going on behind the scenes.
Starting point is 00:57:48 I said this the other day, it's a power struggle right now. And it's not necessarily a power struggle between Trump and someone else because Trump believes, I believe Trump believes in his mind that he's in control. Right. And he's winning. And I don't think that he is in control whatsoever. I think they make him think he's in control. Just think about it.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Like if you have an 80-year-old grandpa, for example, and Trump is, Trump is about 80, right? Yeah, but he's pretty. smart for me. He's absolutely smart. He's absolutely smart. What I'm saying is is that when you have someone that's older and you tell them things or they'll ask you something, you'll be like, well, no, look, this is how you do it. And this is what you got to know. Like, well, you know, I'm just thinking about like my stepdad or like just older people I know. And they'll ask you something or they'll think they'll know something. But you also know that you know a lot more about what they're talking about than they do. So you try to just get it in there. Oh, okay, cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:35 That's kind of what I believe is happening to Trump or pepping him up. Like, oh, Trump, you are the most amazing president we've ever had. This is what you got to do next. To be, if you want to be the most amazing and you want to be remembered in history and you want everyone to know Trump, you got to do this. Yes. You know, pepping him up. Well, I mean, I think that's what happened with the COVID vaccine.
Starting point is 00:58:54 You know, they said, Trump, do you want to be the savor of the world? Do you want to be the savior of the world? Do you want to get Operation Warp Speed out there and you want to, you know, send this across the globe? And he's like, hell yeah, I do. And so Trump bragged about that. And he still, by the way, brags about Operation Warp Speed. although we know, even though that's been a large in large part forgotten, a lot of people
Starting point is 00:59:14 have quit talking about it, although I think that the, I guess the side effects of what happened during COVID, especially I believe with the vaccine, we are seeing on an everyday basis. I don't know if you guys have logged on to your social media and seen how many people you know that have cancer nowadays. You know, there is mass side effects of what happened during that. But yet there are, you know, there are people that still brag about how great COVID, their response was. And Trump is one of those.
Starting point is 00:59:40 He still brags about the vaccine. He still brags about Operation Warp Speed. Although, you know, Dr. Burke and Anthony Falsci and all those. Those people were behind Trump during this first phase of COVID-19. Yeah, but you remember when Trump was president, nobody would take the vaccine until he was out. And they're like, oh, yeah, it's safe now. Everyone needs to take the vaccine. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:00:02 They hated him and they would not take the vaccine as long as he was president. But once he was out and Biden was in, it was good to take. Yeah. So you got to remember that too. And it just kind of ticks me off too that all we look at is bad situations going on in America. We're not looking at anything good. And I know I say this over and over, but I still have trust in Trump.
Starting point is 01:00:23 I believe that he is doing good things for our country. But he's winning an uphill battle right now. Or he's trying to win an uphill battle because he doesn't only have the Democrats against him. But like you say, he has the deep state against him. And I don't know how much he realizes how much they're really there behind the scenes and who he can trust and who he can't trust. Yeah, I mean, and look, I don't not like Trump. I think that, you know, number one, I voted for him twice. I think that I wish Trump was doing better on obviously the Epstein stuff.
Starting point is 01:00:56 I think there's a lot of stuff Trump could be doing better at. But he's definitely, I guess, doing better. I mean, not I guess. I know he's doing better than Biden Harris. I mean, that was a complete shit show. but it's just my thought process in my mind and I guess this is why I said I don't even like doing politics anymore on the show
Starting point is 01:01:13 and that's why we want to continue to do you know conspiracy stuff even though all conspiracy stuff also comes back to corrupt politicians and governments in most cases but we have to talk about it Chad we do but that's what I'm saying I guess once Trump got in and the Epstein thing took a lot of wind out of myself as far as what I believe because I was like
Starting point is 01:01:32 okay Trump's in office now maybe we're going to get our country back to, you know, the way it needs to be. This government is going to be transparent with people. We're going to finally see some real leaders in Washington and, you know, had high hopes for Cash Patel, didn't really know a lot about Pam Bondi. Tulsi Gabbard's been very quiet. She's never in media, really, but I do, I do think that Tulsi Gabbard's a trustworthy person.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Everyone that's ever interacted with her behind the scenes or otherwise have always said that, which is why I also think maybe why they're keeping her the hell out. of media because I don't think necessarily she's in agreement with everything. No, I don't think so either. And I personally think that she will probably be the next person to go, probably voluntarily. I could be wrong. And think about Marjorie Taylor Green, for example. I mean, she said, I've had enough.
Starting point is 01:02:21 I am not playing this cricket game anymore. I'm done. And this is what I believe in. And this is what I stand on. And if I can't do that, I'm out of here. Yeah. You know, but I wish she wouldn't have gave up because she was a strong voice for Republicans. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:35 And what I'm saying is, guys, and for those people that are like diehard Trump supporters, like I have been since Trump came on the scene in 2015, I'm not saying to not like Trump. I'm not saying that I don't like Trump. I'm just telling you that this game is deeper and is darker than what we think. It is much further than just Trump being president or Biden being president. Exactly. And it really doesn't even have anything to do with Republican and Democratic views. No, it doesn't. I mean, well, it used to.
Starting point is 01:03:05 we thought, right? Like, we used to think that like abortion and, you know, like drugs, like, you know, weed legalization, you know, just the way the government either subsidized things for like. Big government, small government, all that. It's big government versus small government, you know, but it's not even about that anymore. It's like, when the hell have we even talked about that stuff anymore besides Roe v. Wade, which was a huge Supreme Court decision, which basically sent it back to the States, you know, but Democrats and Republicans used to have things they disagreed on. Right. But it's just 100% completely reversed that now.
Starting point is 01:03:40 And it really did. I think it started largely under Obama. It carried on, obviously, with Trump because I think the Democrats and the paid agitators and the NGOs. Well, they all hated Trump. Well, yeah. The whole time he was a president. And they kept bringing in people and bringing in people to agitate and agitate. And I think, by the way, they're probably doing it again.
Starting point is 01:03:59 I don't know exactly why they would be so dumb to do it. it on scale like they used to because Trump has full control essentially of the government. So you would think that they would be able to track down any funding. And according to Cash Patel, they have. But there's just something still so off with all this. There's something very off. This was, I want to play this video. And by the way, guys, I should have said this earlier.
Starting point is 01:04:20 But, you know, pardon the language for any videos we play. We can help it. It's just we want to give you kind of the full view of what's going on out there. But this guy, following the shooting of the Petty. guy or pretty um a self-describe antifa member he was urging as followers to arm themselves and this is what he said listen my name is Kyle I'm antifa and there's so much rage in me that I've had to record this like 15 times trying to get the message out they fucked up okay go watch my other videos doesn't matter if you're not here and you're not caught up you've missed the fucking fight but
Starting point is 01:04:55 if you are it's time to suit up boots on the ground nickel it and fucking 26th my house is four blocks away anywhere between Franklin and Nicolet and 26th and Nicolet show up ready to go okay no not talking about peaceful protests anymore we're not talking about having polite conversations anymore I am talking specifically to my fucking followers this is everything I have fucking talked about and this is exactly what I said was going to happen this is exactly what I said was going to fucking come when we didn't fucking go and march on fucking whipple with guns Sorry, but welcome to America, 2026, where Second Amendment is the only thing that's going to keep you fucking protected from literal fucking Nazi gunmen that are killing innocent people in the street with impunity. This is not a fucking joke.
Starting point is 01:05:49 There's nothing fun to chant about it. Get your fucking guns and stop these fucking people. So there you go. And see, even videos like that, you know, keep this in mind. And videos like that, I just find almost hard to believe. It's hard to believe, I guess, because if you want something illegal and exciting violence or inciting a riot, that is. So I'm curious how long it'll be before he's arrested.
Starting point is 01:06:15 When did this come out? Two days ago. I think it was the night that Freddie was shot, that video came out. And so, you know, this guy obviously should be arrested. I would believe, I guess. I mean, you know, yes, it's the First Amendment. violence against police officers. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Yeah, for sure. I mean, yes, it's the first amendment, but when it goes over the line, which is inciting violence or inciting your right or domestic terror threats, whatever, that could all be considered that. He said, this is not peaceful protest anymore. Get your guns and get your asses out here. Yes. And my thing is, like, it just seems like, you know, and there's been quite a few of these videos coming out.
Starting point is 01:06:50 And I'm not saying that people are not this crazy. They are. It's just, I'm saying that it's being publicized. These videos are being allowed to go violent. I mean, they are. You know, these videos were all over X. Hell, I think they were on Facebook. I think they were on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:07:06 They're on everything. And it's so funny because like some things you can post on Instagram or Facebook and get censored or banned or suspended for. But yet videos like this stay on there and they'll get multi millions of views. That's not, I don't think by accident. I think that's on purpose. I think they want a confrontation. They want an armed conflict. Somebody does and I'm not exactly sure who, but somebody wants.
Starting point is 01:07:29 this thing to keep going. And that's the only thing I wanted to mention with that. There are people out there like this. And they do want violence. They do want to go out in the streets. And they do want to harm police officers and agents. We've seen this for a very long time. I mean, we got to remember back when the BLM stuff was going on and there were multiple
Starting point is 01:07:47 police officers being shot. I remember the Dallas incident where there were three officers being shot after the BLM riots because, you know, they made people believe that all police officers are out targeting black people, which is complete bullshit. but that's what they wanted you to believe. But all I'm saying is, is that when he says, and I wanted to mention this, he mentions in that video, we have our Second Amendment, right? That's what he said.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Right. And so use it. Go get your guns on this tyrannical, fascist government is what he's essentially saying, right? And the only thing I was thinking is like, he used Second Amendment. And so what makes me think of this? So then I saw like two or three other videos, not long after. this, they wouldn't borrow as well. And there were similar videos of people essentially inciting violence against federal
Starting point is 01:08:34 agents or against whoever, you know, border patrol, you name it. Wait a minute. And they kept mentioning they have their Second Amendment. I thought liberals were against Second Amendment. Exactly, right? Exactly. 100% correct. But no, I mean, but I have saw several other similar videos to where they were mentioning
Starting point is 01:08:54 and they made sure in all their videos to mention Second Amendment. now you have Trump and now you have Cash Patel saying you can't have a gun now they want the weapons yeah but that's what I'm saying he Trump and Cash Patel and all they're well you can't have a gun and it's double you know two magazines and all this stuff that's not that's not a good look something's happening right is all I'm telling you something is going on and just like the guy we played to you earlier said you know you can't cheer on like they want you to cheer on the Patriot Act for example like after 9-11 because it was them It was the terrorist.
Starting point is 01:09:28 You know, it was the Muslims, you know? Yeah, we have to spy on everybody just so we can spy on the Muslims. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Like, we're going to spy on every single thing you do because of the Muslims. We're going to get Palantir and flock cameras and all this stuff because of criminals, right? We're going to use all this AI technology to know every single thing about what criminals do or breathe or eat or drink or think. We're going to use that against criminals.
Starting point is 01:09:55 But we're also going to use it against you as a lot. well. Yeah, but what happened to good old investigation? Well, not anymore, not in this day and age. My point to this is, is that when you cheer on the overstepping of the federal government on our constitutional rights, cheering it on for yourself. No matter who it's against. Yeah, no matter who it's again, no matter whether you hate these freaking protesters that are protest in ICE, no matter whether you hate what their stance is, doesn't matter. Because when you're cheering on taking away people's rights, their rights, that's your rights too. Anything they do is also the same thing you do. Same thing you might have to do one day. Maybe it's not about ICE. Maybe it's not, it has nothing
Starting point is 01:10:37 to do with immigration. Likely it won't be, obviously, for us, because we're not going to go out and protest what ICE is legally and should be doing in our country. But when it's against something that you don't like our government doing, whether it's the fact that maybe say Trump wants to go a third term and says, screw the Constitution, I'm just going to stay in power. And on top of that, not only am I staying in power, but now we're going to have a police state. We're going to have martial law. And the crazy thing about this is, guys, and this is the point I'm trying to make. If Trump did stay in, for example, and this is the same scenario with Joe Biden or Trump.
Starting point is 01:11:11 And this is the problem with our country. If Trump, at the end of his four years, which, by the way, he just today at another rally or whatever he went to today, said that he's like, yeah, they've told me to run the third term. I'm thinking about the third term. maybe even a fourth. So, you know, we might stay in here forever. He literally said this again today. And there was a bunch of posts. Yeah, there was a bunch of posts that is, is this guy kidding?
Starting point is 01:11:33 Or is he serious? Because he keeps saying this, right? And so what I'm telling you is that it doesn't matter if it's Trump or if it's Biden. There are going to be a large section of people, Republicans, patriots, the people that love America that if Trump declared that he's staying in office or going to run, not even run, but he's just going to be president for a third term. I can't even tell you how many people would be on X and social media the next day cheering on Trump and saying MAGA, baby, and they'd be like, okay with it. They just throw away the Constitution. It's the same reason if this administration comes in and says, well, we're going to ban all firearms from people that are Democrats because they don't like ICE and they don't like our administration.
Starting point is 01:12:16 Do you know how many Republicans are going to cheer that on? It'll be all over social media. They'll be like, oh, yeah, we got rid of their firearms now. Yeah, cheer it on, Trump, MAGA. That's what everybody's going to say until the net, until someone comes in office and takes away all your shit. Because that's going to, that's going to happen. This doesn't just work one way or the other.
Starting point is 01:12:35 When someone takes away rights or they overstep their boundaries, when I say someone, I mean the government, that's not against Democrats. It's not, it wasn't just about Republicans. And I knew this shit was going to happen. And I think it's going to happen. I think it's going to keep going further. I think we're going to start potentially seeing gun restrictions. I think we're going to see a.
Starting point is 01:12:52 lot of things that Republicans are going to cheer on in the name of against Democrats or against these people that are ICE protesters. And it's going to, it's going to blow my mind. Well, I think that would be an idiot decision to cheer something on like that because that's our freedoms. And it doesn't matter. If you're an American citizen, you have the right to the same freedom as I do. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:13:14 And Sean Strickland, you know, just today said, we can all agree cash Patel is a fucking idiot who has zero understanding of the Second Amendment. And I 100% agree with that as well. All right, guys, I do want to play this. This guy is a ex-sniper. And this is what he had to say about this encounter as well. Let's review the footage of the killing of Alex Prattie. And I'm going to show you the video.
Starting point is 01:13:38 And I'm going to tell you exactly what happened. In this video, I want you to watch this guy right here, the guy in the gray, grabs Alex Gun out of his waistband right here. Did you see it? Did you see it? I'm going to play it again, and I'm going to zoom in. Right there. Let's slow it down.
Starting point is 01:13:58 Right here. That officer grabbed Alex Prettie's legal firearm, which I carry around a fucking firearm all the time. Grabbed it out of his waistband, and he accidentally discharged his firearm. And that freaked everybody else out, and they fucking murdered him. And how dare, how fucking dare this administration. post this shit on X, saying that Alex approached him with a 9mm handgun, and he violently resisted, and he wanted to inflict maximum damage on these officers.
Starting point is 01:14:34 This is shit that fucking Iran does. Do you understand that? I am a licensed firearm owner, and how fucking dare you? How fucking dare you do this to your own citizens? And how dare you, MAGA, fucking support this shit. They fucked up and they murdered that kid. There are going to be charges. Christine Nome and every single ICE officer is going to prison come the fucking midterms.
Starting point is 01:15:06 And I am not going to. And every single fucking person watching this is not going to rest. You murdered an American citizen and then you posted on your propaganda machine trying to make it seem like he was a fucking violent individual. that is what authoritarian nations do there you go and listen this guy is an ex-marine sniper you know he's uh i've watched his content before and he is a patriot has always been a patriot he i guess at one point in time was maga or at least voted for trump i believe and this is just his reaction right and this guy
Starting point is 01:15:45 along with so many other spec ops guys has been in countries where there are propaganda machines like China and Iran and Afghanistan, Iraq, North Korea. I mean, we have these countries that have propaganda machines and no matter what happens, whatever their federal agents do to our citizens, it's always going to be they were in the right and the other person was in the wrong. And yes, Department of Homeland Security literally released a long, detailed social media post about how he approached the officers with a 9mm handgun. and violently resisted them, and he wanted to inflict maximum damage on the ICE officers.
Starting point is 01:16:25 Yeah, that was their press release. Yeah, that's what Christy Noem said, and that was complete BS. That's not what happened in the video. Unless you can show me other body cam videos that I have not seen to change my mind, that is exactly the opposite of what happened. Yeah. And I'll be honest. And I'm going to just say, you know, I always stand on the side of Trump.
Starting point is 01:16:45 I always try to prop him up and look at the good. he's done. There's been some stupid crap that he's done as a president, just like every other president. But I think he's done a lot of good things. And I don't think this is President Trump's fault. I think it's a combination of all the politicians' faults. Yeah. You know, and the thing is, watching that video back, I want you guys to go to the slowed down version of the video when you get a chance. And I want you to watch as that ICE officer, I guess that's who this guy was. It was a dude in the gray Pants. Yeah, dude and gray pants.
Starting point is 01:17:20 Yeah. I want you to watch when he disarms Prattie and as he is taking the firearm away, it literally looks like to me, I mean, this is just my opinion. I want your guy's opinion. It looks like to me he intentionally discharges the firearm. I don't know because I watched the video with no sound because you were asleep when I was watching. So I didn't even know that it discharged, but just watching it with no sound, I could clearly
Starting point is 01:17:46 see what was going on. Yeah. And it looks like to me. me. I mean, I don't know. It just looks like it, but it almost looks like he intentionally points it down, like right before the shot goes off. But that's how you disarm a gun. No, no, no. He's running, though. He's running. And as he's running, you can see his arm extend, like towards the ground, like he's shooting the ground. Like he's intentionally going to shoot the ground or shoot kind of behind him a little bit. And it looks like he almost intentionally shoots the gun. Or is he a brand new officer and is not trained very well. I don't know. I have no idea. But I think. the moral of this story is that we're not trying to shit on ice agents. We're not trying to shit on Trump or the administration. We're literally just making it very clear that when the administration goes on social media and then they go on mainstream media and they talk down or negatively
Starting point is 01:18:40 about a U.S. citizen that is legally carrying a firearm. And then they go further and basically saying that firearms are bad and that two magazines is bad. And not only does the president of the United States say that multiple times, but then you also have the FBI director, Cash Patel, saying the same thing. And then you have Department of Homeland Security saying that this guy was violent, basically a domestic terrorist. He was approaching the officers with a 9mm. They wanted you essentially to believe that he had this weapon in his hand and was coming
Starting point is 01:19:12 towards him with a gun and they had to shoot him. It's like they automatically had to take up. for the ICE agents without even investigating. Instead of saying, hey, we're going to investigate this. We will let you know what we find from this investigation. They're not even trying to do that. They're just coming out immediately and saying, sorry, the guy deserved to die. He was an active engaged terrorist.
Starting point is 01:19:34 He was going to kill our agents. And that's the way it is move on. Next story. Well, I think a lot of Americans know that what they're doing is trying to clean up a story that went bad. Oh, for sure. I mean, that's absolutely what they're doing. And I'm not saying, guys, that ICE agents are.
Starting point is 01:19:47 out there trying to actively kill American citizens. I don't think that's the case at all. But we can't allow for our government in any way, no matter what party you're with, Republican or Democrat, to gaslight us. We can't let government tell you that if you see a video in its entirety and you make your judgment based on that, that your eyes are lying to you. You know, we were told that over and over again during the Biden-Harris administration. They said, well, you didn't really see that or you didn't really hear that. or Biden's not really senile. You know, you're just making that shit up.
Starting point is 01:20:20 And they're literally just came on mainstream media all the time, lying to your face saying, oh, Biden's great. He's one of the most cognitive alert presidents we've ever seen. I mean, they would say this shit on mainstream media. And they would tell the American people this. They also made you believe in 2020 that Joe Biden was the most voted for president in United States history. Joe Biden.
Starting point is 01:20:41 Joe Biden. Over any of the other president we've ever had, Joe Biden was the most voted for president. in U.S. history. I just don't believe that whatsoever. Whatever you want to take from that, you can take from it. I've never thought the 2020 election was right. I don't think that it was free and fair rigged. I still think that. And hell, I just don't know what to believe anymore, right?
Starting point is 01:21:04 I don't. And that's why, and just instances like this, politics in general is why I hate talking about politics anymore. Because unfortunately, there's a lot of people that, regardless of what happens, they are going to go with one side or the other. And I understand why so many people believe that because they are making us think that we have to pick a side over everything now. It doesn't matter what it is.
Starting point is 01:21:27 Doesn't matter what it is. And if they can get you to pick a side no matter what it is, even if they're in the wrong and you even maybe know they might maybe in the wrong, but you can't say anything about it because you'll be unloyal to your tribe. You know what I mean? Like, well, I can't say anything about that. I mean, I know it looks really bad. and yeah, he was armed and, you know, he didn't even touch his gun and yeah, they killed him and
Starting point is 01:21:50 all this stuff. But I can't say anything because, you know, it'll make me look like a Democrat. Well, I'm a Trumper and everybody knows that. And I'm saying that it doesn't look right. Yeah. And so when you have politicians that you voted in that you thought was going to turn America around and they were going to drain the swamp and yet they're doing similar things that the past administration did, that's why I hate talking about politics anymore.
Starting point is 01:22:15 that's why I don't really even want to vote anymore to be honest. It's just that's where I'm at right now. And until something changes, I don't know if it will. Well, that's not going to help America. No, it isn't, but at all, but I also kind of believe that it doesn't really matter at this point who you vote for. I do. Well, me, I do. I just, I don't believe it matters that much.
Starting point is 01:22:36 I mean, yes, for sure, I think that having Trump in is a better option than Biden Harris. I just still think that no matter what. And I've kind of always saw this. I mean, the president doesn't really truly have full control. The president don't even know everything that's going on. I mean, you know, you got to think about it. Like, the president doesn't know half of what's going on with the black budgets and what the contractors are really doing. Like, do we have UFOs?
Starting point is 01:23:00 Yeah, but our president has found a lot of the black market government bullshit or whatever you want to call it. But yet we can't figure out any of the people that we sex traffic girls to or we, I say we. No, they just don't want to. They're covering. Exactly. I mean, and that's that's the problem. And I just, I do have a problem with that. I 100% do, but not going to get in all that. Hopefully there will be an active and fair, I guess, investigation into this pretty shooting. As we know with the previous shooting in Minneapolis with Renee Good, I guess that will be a federal investigation. I don't know that Minneapolis or Minnesota will have anything to do with that. I don't know if they'll be able to. And I'm not even saying that would be 100% correct either because that's, they'll probably just go the opposite way and says, you know, all the ICE agents are not justified. We should send them to prison like Derek Chauvin and throw away the key. We have a power struggle behind the scenes and we have a power struggle right in front of your face.
Starting point is 01:23:54 And you have on one side, they can do no wrong. And you have on the other side, they can do no wrong. And yes, this has always kind of been politics, but it's getting really bad at this point. It's getting to the point where almost either side will do anything to maintain or take control of power. and that's the scary part. And they may even go as far as to turn you against each other to the point where you would kill each other or want to do that. You know, we talked about that, the entirety of Biden and Harris administration.
Starting point is 01:24:24 We talked about it during Obama's administration. And yes, here I am talking about it again. And so although I'm not saying that Trump is like Biden or Obama, I'm just saying that is still the federal government. And if you all believe that the federal government has our best interest at heart no matter what well i don't know i don't know what to tell you but guys that's going to do it for this episode hopefully nothing crazy happens any further uh we got some great conspiracy episodes coming up very soon and so until then peace out we love you guys

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