Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Missing Scientists? 15 Now Dead or Disappeared, NASA, FBI, and the Growing Mystery

Episode Date: April 24, 2026

A growing number of scientists and researchers tied to NASA, Los Alamos, MIT, and high-level military programs have either turned up dead or completely disappeared over the past few years. Some cases ...have clear explanations, others leave behind more questions than answers, but when you start putting them together, the pattern is what’s getting attention. Now it’s not just being talked about online. Congress is asking questions, the FBI is involved, and the list keeps growing. On tonight’s episode, we break down all 12 names, who they were, what they worked on, when they vanished or died, and the details surrounding each case. You’ll hear the timelines, the connections, and the facts as they stand right now, so you can decide for yourself… coincidence, or something more?Visit our merch store

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Trying to impress me pulling out all the stops When you tell me what you want I just wanted you to see me Never thought you noticed You know Had me at a La La La La La La La La Hello and welcome to Investigator of Podcast
Starting point is 00:00:34 I'm your host child alongside my beautiful wife Sherry On tonight's show we're getting into a story that everybody's talking about right now. Over the past few years, there has been a growing list of scientists, researchers, people tied to NASA, Los Alamos, MIT, and even high-level military programs who have either turned up dead or simply disappeared. And some of these cases, they say have explanations. Others don't, but when you line them all up, it really starts to not feel like a coincidence.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Now it's gone beyond the online realm. Congress is asking questions. The FBI is involved. And there still aren't many clear answers. So tonight we're going to go name by name who these people were. what they worked on and the timeline behind each case and let you decide for yourself. Is this just all random or is there something much more sinister and bigger going on behind the scenes?
Starting point is 00:01:19 Guys, welcome to the show. It is April the 23rd, 2026. The name of this song is Had Me at Hello by Ayo. If he didn't say it enough in the song in the chorus, you had me at Hello, Lo, Lo, like eight billion times. But welcome to the show. We are so glad to have all of you, even the people that really do get pretty butt hurt when we talk about truth and reality as far as our government.
Starting point is 00:01:42 I believe that what we have found out over the past six months to a year is that not everybody really is seeking truth. I think some people are seeking truth against a certain party versus their own. And some people still hold their government is very precious to them, although I think that they've got us confused in some ways is that we started this podcast to call out corruption in government. And that's still exactly what we're doing. It doesn't matter who is in office.
Starting point is 00:02:08 we're always going to do it. Doesn't matter if the Pope was in office. Even not, that's a bad way to even say it because then the Pope's also, I don't think good either. So that's what I'm saying. And he's not supposed to be a politician either. Yeah. But we would call out the Pope if he did something bad, like molest little boys or something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:26 That's weird. They would never do that. What are you talking about? Anyway, so tonight we're going to be talking about this story, these missing researchers, and it is wild what has been going on. Obviously, not long ago, we had an episode on McCaslin, which was the latest to disappear. Actually, he's not the latest. No, there was actually someone recently just died probably about 30 miles from us.
Starting point is 00:02:47 And I didn't even find this out until today because if you look at the official list of all the scientists and all the researchers that have either died or disappeared over the past few years, all of these people are connected, as I said, to like MIT or Los Alamos or Wright-Patterson Air Force Base or even some that were about to testify in Congress. Congress based on some of the things that David Grush had, I guess he had said that potentially some people had non-human biologics. There was also groups of people that are working on advanced programs or reverse engineering programs. And so there was one in particular on this list that was set to testify in Congress. And now he is no longer with us. So this whole thing, I would like to say doesn't make sense, but it absolutely 100%
Starting point is 00:03:32 does make sense. The question is, is like, why is it all of a sudden now that my. the castling disappeared and then there were people researchers podcasters and others that have blown this story up over the past month or so that is the only time that the FBI and the Department of Justice now all of a sudden want to get involved with finding out where are our most like you know I guess you can say our most brave scientists we're our smartest scientist ever we should maybe look into this because they all work around advanced technology in our government And now all of a sudden they want to open up investigations.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Yeah, it was interesting that Fox News just started recently covering this piece. But for maybe three or four weeks before we did the first podcast on this, there was nothing. It was just silence. I almost feel like mainstream media is going and looking at podcasts now to see what they have to put on their show. Yeah. I am not even kidding. Well, and that's the thing you say, Sherry, is like most people, I think mainstream media and the government, obviously is starting to get a grasp on how influential podcasters are, how influential
Starting point is 00:04:39 independent media is. And guys, this didn't just start when it comes to Candace Owens versus Erica Kirk or Dan Bonjino or Tucker Carlson. I mean, the independent media space has been growing rapidly. It has been inviscerating mainstream media. And it's not because of Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson or anyone else. It's literally because of how much mainstream media lied to us, like blatantly during COVID-19. And so before that and after.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Yeah. And so that's when everybody was like, look, we absolutely cannot trust mainstream media at all anymore. And everybody started this push towards like, hey, I'm going to listen to the people I trust. I'm going to listen to the independent people that are actually out there researching and not trying to give you a bunch of bullshit. And I think the reality of what this kind of, I guess, media escape is right now. And I'm seeing it on a regular basis. I'm seeing it on a daily basis. And I've warned you guys about this for some time.
Starting point is 00:05:33 you know, be careful who you follow. Be careful who you listen to. And that includes everyone you listen to. And I think now we're starting to see some of that because, you know, it was like after COVID-19 and when mainstream media realized that they were dead in the water. I mean, they knew that no one listened to them anymore. There are so many podcasters now that have better ratings than CNN, MSNBC, or what's known as MS now. Fox News has had a rapid decline in their viewership, especially over the past six months, especially after the Trump, you know, Epstein thing and then the Iran war. There's just a lot of people now that don't trust media even more than they did before COVID. So now not only do you have people not trust in media, at least Fox News was somewhere for conservatives and Republicans. They were like, well, I think they're lying to us the least. So we're going to start watching them.
Starting point is 00:06:21 And now their viewership is starting to fall. But what I will say is that I think that the system, the government realized after COVID-19, that look, number one, we have to somehow get control about. independent podcasters, independent media, independent investigators or journalists. And that's what they've been trying to do. They are paying off people as fast as they possibly can. They are getting people on both sides. And it's not just Republicans and it's not just Democrats.
Starting point is 00:06:45 They're trying to find anybody possible that has an influence to pay them for their opinion to, you know, push their agenda, whatever that agenda is. And we're seeing it all the time. And so it's really hard right now to even know, even on social media, who to believe, who to follow, what you can and can't. believe and we're in this battle as well guys we're in a constant battle with people that listen to our show have listened to our show for many years and it's just funny because you'll see the people that are really awake you'll see the people that truly stuck with the
Starting point is 00:07:17 i guess their mind what they truly believed instead of just automatically listening to you know whoever the biggest names were on social media they even are starting to see through the bullshit though you know there's i can't tell you how many emails we've received and they've said look i I followed this guy for so long, this guy for so long. And now all of a sudden, like, what they're saying is literally almost exactly opposite of what I thought they always preached to me before Trump came in. And like tonight, you know, we got blocked by Dan Bongino. But, you know, who knows, you know, Dan is, Dan came out of the, as, you know, out of the White
Starting point is 00:07:52 House, out of the administration. And I called it then. I said, when Dan Bongino comes out, there's absolutely no way he's going to be able to come out and like go against the bullshit he said in the White House as the deputy FBI director. He's going to double down on it. And that's exactly what he's done. Yeah. And he's ruining his career.
Starting point is 00:08:09 But I also wanted to mention, too, that there has been a lot of our audience that have been more awake than I have been. It took me longer to open my eyes than some of them. So I appreciate with them sticking with us as well. For sure. Yeah. And just waiting for me to realize, okay, I'm I'm understanding where you're coming from. I thought I was awake.
Starting point is 00:08:29 but I really truly wasn't until now. I feel like maybe I'm awake now. Yeah. Well, I think you're a lot more awake than you ever have been. I feel like I am as well. And I do feel like that some of you out there are maybe not quite as awake or at least aware of certain things that are potentially going on. That's our opinion. That's something that we do on a regular every single day basis.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Our life is consumed by trying to figure out what is true and what is not. It gets depressing. It gets stressful. It gets all of those things. And this does consume our life. in a way that I think most people don't understand, and especially if like if you go to your nine to five, you're working every single day, and yeah, you'll come on our podcast or go listen to another podcast and listen to someone else's opinion, but you have to understand where
Starting point is 00:09:12 these people usually get their opinion. And for us, we don't get our opinion based on who's paying us to say something. Because actually, to be honest with you, that would be so easy. Like if, you know, the Republicans came along or A PAC or some other, you know, Democrat party affiliation. If any of them came along and said, hey, look, we're going to buy you out. We're going to pay you this much money. It'll be so easy to just talk their stupid bullshit all the time and you don't ever have to have an opinion, even though we would never do that. But the reality is that that's not who we are. We do consume our lives with this and we do receive a lot of shit and flag for it. We always have for eight, nine years now.
Starting point is 00:09:48 And it's hard to even take a like a two-day break or go on vacation or do anything because of the podcast and I'm not bitching about it, but I don't think a lot of people realize how hard it is. Yeah, it's not easy. And it's not easy mentally. And especially when you have to say things and do things that are not necessarily everybody's going to agree with, obviously. We understand, for example, that we built this show over eight and nine years. And we built it obviously because we were more rightly and more conservative. We always have been. I always have been. And I still am, by the way. But that doesn't necessarily change. the fact that we still have to do our very best to tell the truth, no matter who's in office, no matter who is in charge. If we see something odd and off and corrupt, then we're going to talk about it. And I think that people should at least respect that to the fact that we're not just going to be completely biased towards one side.
Starting point is 00:10:42 We want whoever is in office to be good. We want our president to be successful, and especially Trump, and especially this administration. And I think in some ways, like we got to hold Trump in this administration. in higher regard and more accountable than the Democrats and Joe Biden because that was an obvious joke. We knew they were screwing the country up completely. And I'm not even saying that Trump is trying or intentionally trying to screw things up. I'm just saying that it's just very devastating, I guess, when what we've seen happen,
Starting point is 00:11:11 happened the way it has. And so I just want to get that off my chest. We've received a lot of emails, mostly positive, by the way. There's only the few people that consistently send messages that say something or just absolutely don't get it, I guess. And so, and maybe they won't understand certain things about what we're going to talk about tonight. But without further ado, I do want to say, guys, the best way you can obviously help this podcast is by sharing this podcast with whoever you possibly can. Share it on your social media timeline, send it and messages. You guys are our voice
Starting point is 00:11:44 and you will help us get out there to as many people as possible. We've been doing this for a very long time and we love doing this. And we hope that more people will just start seeing for sure. like that still things are not great. There is still hanky-panky going on. And if you guys listen to the last episode with Maze, I think you need to listen to the entirety of the episode because there was a lot of things that she says, especially in the back half of the show,
Starting point is 00:12:10 that really start connecting dots and explaining like maybe why the things that's going on are now are going on and why a lot of people are shocked and surprised because they didn't think this was going to happen. Whereas there's a lot of people that kind of knew, like, you know, if it's already written, Agenda 2030, you know, the world economic forum, the one world government, it's not going to stop, is going to continue to push on.
Starting point is 00:12:30 And, you know, what's written biblically in many ways is, you know, is just not going to suddenly come to a halt because of whoever's in office. So, but moving on, I want to play this Fox piece. And this Fox piece kind of explains some of this, but it goes into further detail. And some of what they say is exactly what we're going to be talking about tonight. Now, we are going to go line by line. each person that has disappeared or has been killed or supposedly killed ourselves or died in some mysterious way, we will talk about each of those people and we will explain what they did, how they were connected,
Starting point is 00:13:03 and how they died or disappeared. But before we do that, let's go ahead and get in this video. There are these 10 missing scientists with access to classified stuff, nuclear material, aerospace. They've all gone missing or turned up dead in the last couple months. What do you think is happening here? And do you think that this is connected or totally random? Well, I hope it's random. Half.
Starting point is 00:13:30 I just left the meeting on that subject. So pretty serious stuff. But we're going to be now. Hopefully, I don't know, coincidence if you, whatever you want to call it. But some of them were very important people. And we're going to look at it over the next. So take a look. The White House now probing the disappearances of the people behind me.
Starting point is 00:13:49 The deaths of 10 scientists at least. Let's break down some of the cases. For example, let's look at Michael David Hicks. He dies at the age of 59 years old. And David Michael Hicks, a longtime JPL scientist involved in asteroid and common research, no public cause of death given. And then you have a situation like Monica Reza. Monica Reza vanished while hiking under weird circumstances.
Starting point is 00:14:16 And then you have William Neal McCaslin. This guy disappeared in February, deep ties to the Air Force Research Programs. So everyone has a bit of a mystery to their passing, and people are wondering, with the very similar backgrounds, extremely bright people, extremely successful people, extremely valuable people, is this all related? As you heard, the president can't say yes or no publicly yet, but the mystery reigns. Let's bring in House Oversight Committee member of Missouri Congressman Eric Burleson, who is calling for the FBI to get involved. Congressman, when did you first to find out about this? My office found out about it last year. We sent a letter to the FBI about a gentleman named Matthew Sullivan, who actually we had reached out to. He was scheduled to come in for an interview. Within two weeks, he had suspiciously committed suicide. That report was referred to the Office of Inspector General. They deemed it credible and urgent. They then referred it to the FBI. So this is not the first that we've heard of this. This is not the first that we've heard of this. This is. is, that was the first that we became aware of.
Starting point is 00:15:24 President was briefed extensively yesterday, and he's worried about it. You know, we hear about all this. We also know we're in a big time race with China for all this, too. And then people wonder about the undisclosed UFO program that more and more people are pushing to get answers on. Is there a relation to any of that from what you could share with us? There certainly is. So General McCaslin, for example, is someone that we have.
Starting point is 00:15:50 reached out to twice to try to get some answers from. He is someone who is a critical role in working for the Air Force, particularly when it came to research. He was the one that oversaw a lot of this advanced research. He was someone that was very difficult to get to get a hold of, but we reached out to him twice, and then he just mysteriously disappeared. You know what's wondering, if one person disappears, we see press conferences, and we see people and mysterious deaths, we would see family members. Why have we heard more from family members and associates about their concern? I don't know, Brian. I wish we would. But look, what's really disturbing when you look back and reflect on it, you've got Monica Reza, you've got Anthony Chavez,
Starting point is 00:16:39 you got Melissa Cassius, and you have Stephen Garcia, all of which, along with General McCaslin, walked out of their homes or in the case of Mrs. Reza, she disappeared on a hike without their phones. They just literally disappeared, left all of their devices at home. This is not normal. These are some of the most advanced scientists, researchers in our nation, some of the most important people for a nation's national security efforts, and they all just mysteriously disappeared. So, I mean, this does have all the hallmarks of some type of international or foreign effort because we're in competition, on nuclear. We're in competition on advanced weaponry. We're in competition on getting to the moon.
Starting point is 00:17:19 And who you're in competition with? China, Russia, Iran. So if there's anything worthy of a all-hands-on-deck investigation, this seems to be it. This is a rattling call to pay attention to this issue and make sure that our nation's top scientists are safe and secure. This is too coincidental. And so we have to be investigating this. We need to have our nation's top investigators, the FBI, and every agency looking into this matter. Eight have been found missing or dead since 2025.
Starting point is 00:17:57 So this is only going to grow. In fact, I know one of the scientists that came out and said they've thought that they were being threatened and stalked. Yeah, we've heard that from multiple cases where they've been, that they've all felt some form of threat. And lastly, is this something Democrats and Republicans can get behind together? Absolutely, Brian. My office is leading a joint effort with Democrats. This is a bipartisan issue. We're leading a letter to the FBI to make sure that they address this issue and properly investigate this.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Yeah, I would love to see press conferences with some of their colleagues who probably share your concern. Okay, so that was. Burleson, which has been at the head of a lot of these investigations. He's a member of Congress. And, you know, one of the things that mainstream media is starting to try to pin it on is some international involvement, whether it's China or Russia that is coming to the United States and disappear in some of our top scientists. And what I will say about that is I don't think that's necessarily the case.
Starting point is 00:19:08 I think if you had to rank the three potentials in this, I would think international or foreign involvement would probably be number three, right? If that was ranking from one to three international involvement, I think, is the least likely out of the three scenarios. The number one most likely scenario, I believe, is whoever is in control of these dark clandestine programs inside of the United States, the things that Congress has no oversight in, although they think they do, they don't. I think that's actually more likely linked to where these people are disappearing.
Starting point is 00:19:42 and I would think honestly even more likely than anything than international involvement would be like aliens themselves disappearing these people before I would think that China and Russia are somehow have these special agents inside of the United States that are somehow convincing these people to go for walks watching and monitoring them and then disappearing them. I don't think that's happening. And the reason I say this is because some of these people in particular were reached out to by Congress, especially McCaslin and the, his colleague, they were both potentially going to testify in Congress.
Starting point is 00:20:18 And then there was another one that was, he was in the Air Force. He worked at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base was also very highly connected, which we'll get into in just a moment. But that's another one that was set to testify in Congress. So obviously it was people in particular three that they believed was going to testify in Congress or had platforms where they were going on podcasts or going in a other places and they started to talk about some of these things because as you guys know with the UFO thing that has been going on for i would say four years where it seems like mainstream media
Starting point is 00:20:49 and government are starting to try to soften people up at seems or or try to almost admit some of these things and a lot of people say well it's it's just some false flag thing where they're trying to get to think about UFOs and not epstein or not you know a potential war with iran whatever i do think all these things are connected but i think it's a connected in a way that we just I think it's kind of easily explainable. It's just like I said, if we're reverse engineering technology and yet Trump just came out and said, hey, we're going to declassify the UFO files and there's so much push for this, obviously somebody doesn't want these people to talk. And I think it's more than likely that people potentially in our own country that are working on these things that are disappearing these people. It's interesting to me, too, because a lot of these scientists have claimed that they had the same symptoms before they disappeared or killed themselves or were murdered.
Starting point is 00:21:43 And that was the fuzzy head, the weird feelings in the head where they just didn't feel right. Even William McCaslin, he went to the doctor several times because of this issue. And then he goes out for a run, we think, and leaves his phone behind, which his wife said, he's never done that before. He always is well prepared wherever he goes. And he just randomly left and disappeared. Same with his assistant, Monica Risa. She disappeared, I think, in California on a hike. So many of these scientists, though, are reporting the same symptoms.
Starting point is 00:22:19 And they're also reporting threats and being stalked. So there's something going on. And I don't know what your number two is. But my number one is I think something is happening as far as like, frequencies like mk ultra direct energy weapons yeah something's happening to these people where they're suiciding themselves but they say even the day before they suicide themselves they're saying i am not like that i love my life i i am happy to be alive i'm here and i'm well and if something happens to me be very watchful and understand that's not what i wanted and then all of a sudden
Starting point is 00:22:58 they're actually committing suicide you know it's like the new one David Wilcock. I mean, he was not in the military, but he's also in the UAP community. And he was working with a major, I guess, aerospace contract company where they were doing reverse engineering. And it seems to be like there's some kind of coincidence with that. Anything with reverse engineering, people are going missing. Yeah. No, I completely agree.
Starting point is 00:23:27 And it is actually a common trend with a lot of these people. they have either spoken out to the public or had spoken out to family members previous to their disappearance or murders, whether they said they were not suicidal, they said they didn't feel right. And for those who don't know what Sherry's talking about, maybe you've never heard of Havana syndrome, for example. Havana syndrome is what we believe to be a directed energy weapon that was used on our CIA officers that were in Havana, Cuba at a specific time. Now, this is not just happened in Havana, Cuba.
Starting point is 00:23:57 It's also happened in China. It's also happened to some of our intelligence officers in other places around the world to where when they would be in certain places, they all of a sudden would feel very sick to their stomach. They felt dizzy. They felt like they couldn't think straight. And then they said even the months going forward that their life was never the same again. They had to retire. They had to get out of service early because something happened to their brain. They felt like literally their brain was scrambled or like fried like an egg.
Starting point is 00:24:24 And so we know that these directed energy weapons or microwave weapons are in existence. You know, even if you go to, for example, the United States's surge on Venezuela when we took Maduro. Yes. And the discombobulator that they say that we had used in that operation. Well, that's interesting you say because we had talked about this before. Some mainstream media speculated, well, this discombobulator was this high frequency. Audio frequency is what they actually pushed towards some of these guards. Most of these guards were Cuban, by the way.
Starting point is 00:24:55 But they pushed this high frequency, I guess you can say magnetic frequency wave towards these guards as they were entering Maduro's compound. And their nose started bleeding. They didn't know what to do with themselves. They couldn't think straight. And many of them actually died from that directed energy weapon because that's what that discombobulator was. It sounds like was a directed energy weapon. So we know, we know for sure the United States has these weapons. Now, before we get any further and we start going down the line of who these people,
Starting point is 00:25:23 people were. I want to play a very important piece. This is when Tim Burchett asked David Grush, specific question about what he knew about murders of people that may talk when it comes to the UFOs. Listen. Thank you all very much. Have you faced any retaliation or reprivals for any of your testimony or anything on these lines? Yeah. I have to be careful what I say in detail because there is an open whistleblower reprisal investigation on my behalf, and I don't want to compromise that investigation by providing anything that may help provide somebody information. But it was very brutal and very unfortunate some of the tactics they used to hurt me both professionally and personally, to be quite frank. Yeah. It's very unfortunate, as they say, when you're open to
Starting point is 00:26:16 target, that's when they do the most firing at you. Do you have any personal knowledge of people who have been harmed or injured in efforts to cover up or conceal these extraterrestrial technology? Yes, personally. Have you heard, have anyone been murdered that you would think, that you know of or have heard of, I guess? I have to be careful asking that question. I directed people with that knowledge to the appropriate authorities. Maybe in a, um, if we could get it, get in a, um, confidential area of skiff, we could
Starting point is 00:26:47 talk about that. But unfortunately, um, we were denied access to the skiff. gift. And that's very unfortunate in this scenario. So there you go. That was David Grush. And he says, you know, basically, look, I can't really answer that because, number one, I don't want to die.
Starting point is 00:27:05 I don't want to end up like one of these people that have died. But it sounds like that he does know about murders. Yeah, because he would have said no. Yeah, exactly. And he said, I've told the, you know, the correct people, at least in his mind, the correct people, what I knew about that. But likely those people that, whoever he told that. probably said, don't ever speak of that shit again and don't ever answer yes to that in Congress.
Starting point is 00:27:28 And David Grush was this high-level military officer that had access and connected with a lot of people that had access to these advanced programs, to the UFO programs. And so he himself, in other interviews, have said, yes, we basically do know of people that were murdered. David Grush himself said that he feared for his life. And so I think the question here is that with all these scientists, all of these researchers that we're going to talk about tonight. It's not a question of whether or not they could have been murdered by whatever organization
Starting point is 00:27:59 or group of people that hold these secrets. I think that's pretty obvious. I think we've had these congressional hearings. They've tried to get access to skiffs with David Grush and others that were connected to these programs. And every single time, most congressional members have been denied unless it was certain things. But in specific about the people that were either harmed or murdered, it seems like every
Starting point is 00:28:21 times they tried to get a skiff with people that knew about these murders, they were denied access to those skiffs. And we're talking about congressional members that represent you and me in our country, they are not allowed access to it because it is not privy to your information. Now, you could say, well, this is national defense. So we can't, you know, they can't be in there learning everything and then go out and tell their people. But the reality of this is, guys, is that this is a two-part thing. We can talk about national offense as far as if we're reverse engineer and UFO technology. You could also say, well, maybe it's not UFO technology at all.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Maybe we're just, maybe these programs are a part of the most advanced weaponry systems that the world has ever seen, very similar to if you go back to Oppenheimer and the race for nuclear, where we were literally in a race with the world. And that's why we hired all the best scientists. If you think about NASA, you know, you think about all the scientists we hired from Nazi Germany and not just the ones that we got, but Russia also got from Nazi Germany. for whatever reason Nazi Germany was extremely advanced. And we don't still understand exactly how they were so advanced, being such a small country,
Starting point is 00:29:27 being the fact that you know, you think about the United States, even during World War II and before, and China and Russia or Soviet Union, you know, they were all far more technologically advanced. At least we thought they were than all these major countries until we realize that, hey, actually maybe we're not the ones that are the most advanced in the world. And somehow Germany had all these advanced tech, all these advanced craft. And a lot of people felt like at the very least that the scientists that were working, Warner von Braun and the others in Germany had access to what many say a UFO. And actually, I was just looking up this the other day.
Starting point is 00:30:08 So do you know that we have built according to like four confirmed whistleblowers that have been in our United States military at high levels, very similar to David Grush, that we have built an entire military base around a UFO that was too big to move or take anywhere. So I don't know exactly where this base is. It's somewhere not in the United States, is somewhere foreign, whether it's UK or who knows, Germany maybe. And I'm almost thinking Germany because, you know, we have Ramstein Air Force Base in Germany. I think we have a couple other secret sites in Germany as well.
Starting point is 00:30:38 But we do know that we have literally built an entire military base around a crack. that they say was like a mothership craft that we is too big to move. We could have never moved it. So instead what we did is the United States military went in and built an entire military base around the craft. And so all of these things, you know, when you talk about UFOs and all this stuff, now it's starting to really rain in our minds that, number one, they exist. Number two, I think because of what some people know or have worked on in these programs,
Starting point is 00:31:08 they are being murdered or disappeared. And that's exactly what we're talking about tonight. All right, so we're not going to put this necessarily in a timeline of when each person, you know, went missing or died first. But we are going to tell you the dates and how all of those things happen. So Amy Eskridge is one that is in, I guess, the online sphere that a lot of people talked about. We've actually talked about her on the podcast before. She was a 34-year-old co-founder of the Institute of Exotic Science in Huntsville, Alabama, that was involved in advanced and unconventional propulsion research concepts. She died on June 11th, 2022, with her case later resurfacing in connection with broader speculations surrounding this group of scientists.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Now, you look at mainstream media, Fox News, whoever, they refer to her also involved in this. Now, she died in 2022, but it wasn't necessarily how she died or the fact that she died was what was so crazy about it. It was actually in an interview not very long before she died and what she said about what she was working on that kind of, I guess, raised a lot. lot of people's eyebrows. Listen to this. I found out that I was being physically surveilled by the following method. We, my ex and I realized, my ex-boyfriend and I realized that people had been breaking into our apartment while we were gone together in the same vehicle. And so like, I'm in the apartment. I'm about to go to work. And I'm like, why don't you take out the trash and scope out
Starting point is 00:32:41 the parking lot and make sure it's okay before I go to work? So he goes out there and he's like, there's this weird fucking Lexus. It's like a silver Lexus. This is a shitty apartment. Like, why is there really nice Lexus in the parking lot? And it has tinted windows that are not street legal. Like just totally dark, totally black tinted windows that are not possibly street legal. And so he comes back in and we're standing in our bedroom window looking at the Lexus and talking about it.
Starting point is 00:33:14 And I say out loud. maybe we should walk over there later and take a picture of the license plate. Because the Lexus is across the parking lot from us, but it's backed in so you can't see the license plate. Within two minutes of me saying, hey, we should walk over there later and take a picture of the license plate. We were still standing there at the window looking at it, talking about it. and an Eastern European-looking motherfucker with a black beanie dressed all in black in his 50s or 60s walked out of the apartment directly across from ours holding a license plate. And he opened the trunk of the Lexus and he took out some tools and he changed the license plate right in front of our fucking faces.
Starting point is 00:34:06 And then he walked back to his apartment. and he put the old license plate on the front patio and went inside, left it outside. And it was literally like, come get the license plate. I have more. I have more where this came from. Come get the license plate. And then after that, the Lexus started tailing me. And every time I saw the Lexus, it had a different license plate.
Starting point is 00:34:32 It would be like Alabama plates, a different state plate. it would be random dealer plates, none of which were local, just like cardboard, temporary dealer plates, none of which were any local dealers. Every time I saw it, it was different plates. It would follow me to the gas station to go get beer. I would go get beer at the gas station and that Lexus follows me. And even my ex called an Uber once, he called an Uber. the Lexus pulled out from the spot across the parking lot from our apartment, drove over to our apartment, and said, hey, I'm your Uber here to pick you up. Reports surrounding the death of Amy Eskridge, a researcher associated with experimental anti-gravity concepts,
Starting point is 00:35:20 have drawn renewed attention following claims about messages she sent prior to her passing. Amy Eskridge was found with a gunshot wound to the head in Huntsville, and her death was officially ruled a suicide. However, reports state that approximately one month before her death, she sent a message to a friend expressing fear for her safety and denying any intention to harm herself. In May 22, she reportedly said in a text, If you see any report that I killed myself, I most definitely did not. If you see any report that I overdosed, I most definitely did not. If you see any report that I killed anyone else, I most definitely did not. The message has since since then.
Starting point is 00:35:58 circulated widely online, contributing to speculation and debate about the circumstances surrounding her death. Additional claims reported in media accounts suggest Eskridge told a friend she believed she had been subjected to physical and psychological attacks prior to her death, including references to what she described as an energy weapon. In a prior interview before her passing, Eskridge reportedly expressed growing concern for her safety, stating that she was becoming increasingly afraid and felt the need to disclose soon. Let's dig deeper about her story. Amy Eskridge, 34-year-old at the time of her death, was a United States-based researcher and entrepreneur connected to experimental propulsion and anti-gravity concepts. She co-founded the Institute for Exotic Science, an independent group that aimed to publicly
Starting point is 00:36:44 explore and discuss unconventional physics ideas like gravity manipulation. She died at the age of 34-inch's Huntsville, Alabama. She came from a NASA-connected family. Her father was an engineer, and her area of expertise was focused in advanced propulsion theories and experimental science. Before her death, Eskridge made disturbing statements suggesting she felt threatened. She reportedly said her life was in danger, claimed harassment and intimidation, including allegations involving energy weapons. She posted that she would never kill herself. She died on the 11th of June 22, which was officially ruled as suicide self-inflicted gunshot wound.
Starting point is 00:37:24 authorities have not publicly released detailed investigation findings. This lack of transparency is one of the key reasons the case keeps resurfacing. All right, there you go. So that is Amy Eskridge. And obviously, she was a very popular case in this because she was one of those outspoken people. As you heard her, like, on that show, and this was not very long before she died. She don't give a shit about what she says. She knew something was going on.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Right. And she didn't sound suicidal to me at all. She had sent multiple messages to friends and families saying, look, I think something's going on. Besides the Lexus, she was like, something's going on to me. You know, I'm feeling weird. I'm feeling like I'm going crazy almost. Yes, same exact symptoms. Now, for those that don't know, like, how this could even be possible, there is something called the transcranial magnetic stimulation or TMS.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Now, this is like a medical thing that they can use that uses magnetic pulses on the outside of the head to affect brain activity. but a lot of people believe that the United States government or other governments or some organizations have certain varieties of this weapon and you know because they use everything as a weapon nowadays that can potentially change the way your brain thinks even to to point of depression or whatever the case is and then you have the microwave auditory effect also called the fray effect and so this is where certain microwave frequencies can create the sensation of sound inside the head and so obviously what however they could get voices across. There's been whistleblowers that have come off and said, look, supposedly all I can do is clicks or tones that they can transmit into your brain to where you hear them and you have no control over. It is a directed energy weapon. But then there's been whistleblowers that say, look, no, this is not just clicks and tones. They can literally put voices transmitted inside of your head to make you hear voices, hear things on a constant basis to where they almost take over and hijack your brain to make you.
Starting point is 00:39:20 you believe whatever the hell they want to. Now, the crazy thing about it is, is that do I think that she was taken over by a direct energy weapon? I don't know. Could she have killed herself? Maybe. But I don't think she did it intentionally. I don't think she did it in her own doing or her own will.
Starting point is 00:39:38 I think she made that very clear. But also the Lexus incident, she also had talked about many other occurrences being followed and harassed and stalked. She had made many reports. She even made federal reports about it and said, look, you know, you know what I work this shit is happening. You guys got to do something about it. No one ever did anything about it.
Starting point is 00:39:54 And then obviously she turns up with a gunshot window. Have you guys ever experienced that crazy, like ringing in your ears that doesn't go away? And that will almost drive you crazy or like when your ears are stopped up. My ears were stopped up for months and I had to have surgery like sinus surgery to open my ears up. But just thinking about that, if somebody used a weapon even close to that, that will drive you insane itself. just hearing like the like you're saying the tapping or whatever the buzzing but then if they really put voices inside your head saying you got to kill yourself right now you got to kill yourself over and over that would drive somebody insane yeah it would absolutely and uh you're you're 100
Starting point is 00:40:34 correct on it now the next person we'll talk about is william mccaslin we've already talked a little bit about him we're not going to play a video for that because we actually did an entire episode on mccaslin's disappearance if you guys want to go back i think it's probably a month ago McHastlin essentially disappeared from his house. As Sherry already talked about earlier, he left his cell phone. There was an Air Force shirt that was found somewhere close to his house. But, you know, no ability to track this guy whatsoever. He did say he felt very strange and weird prior to the disappearance.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Obviously, as you heard Congressman Burleson earlier talk about the fact that they had contacted him and reached out to him prior to this. And what they were wanting to do was get him into a congressional hearing and probably, skiff and try to find out what he knew, like, who was involved, what did he work on, what's the real deal going on? And it sounds almost like as Congress is starting to really dig deep in all this stuff is when McCausen started experiencing some of these things in his head that was weird. And then obviously he just disappeared and went off the reservation. And we don't know where he is today.
Starting point is 00:41:36 And the same thing happened with his assistant, like I think a month prior to his disappearance in California. She went on a hike and just disappeared out of nowhere. Yeah. Yeah, that was Monica Risa. She was in California and literally just disappeared exactly the same way he did. Yeah. Isn't that just like to me when you, when Trump says, oh, well, hopefully there are coincidences.
Starting point is 00:41:59 I just don't think they're coincidences. When you have so many coincidences that are just like each other, it's something, it's something sinister. Yeah, for sure. Now, there's no question about that. Then you also have the case of Carl Grilmeyer. He was a 67-year-old Caltech astrophysicist involved in NASA space missions. Now, he was shot and killed in his home in Lelano, California in February, 26, with a suspect arrested in connection to that killing. But here's a quick little piece from the Will Kane show where they talk about this particular incident.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Listen, reportedly a genius. He was a Caltech astrophysicist. And, you know, his death actually, it's awful. but I really think his death is separate. I have major questions about the perpetrator, major questions here. But it really crosses over with potential systemic failures and the judicial, excuse me, judicial system as well.
Starting point is 00:43:01 He lived in this very remote area of Lano, California, and his neighbors were, you know, a few miles away. But this man, Freddie Snyder, was on his property. with a rifle. And this is December, 2025. This is actually widely misreported. I shouldn't even say widely because not many covered it, but I think it was the New York Post that said Carl Grilmere called 911 on Freddie Snyder for being on his property in December. But that's not true. I spoke to his wife and his wife said, oh no, Carl was curious. So he kind of went out there, saw this guy with a gun and he said the guy was talking to him. He was a little strange. I guess at the end of the driveway,
Starting point is 00:43:42 police were there. So somebody called the police. He was there. And again, for unknown reasons, the police asked Carl, do you want to press charges for trespassing? And his wife just said, you know, he was the nicest person. He said no, but there was a felony weapons charge. And February, 26, just two months ago, allegedly Freddie Snyder comes back and shoots Carl Grillmare on his own property in the torso. A lot of questions. Carl's wife believes there is no connection here to the other scientist. She thinks that's crazy, that's silly. But we don't know the motive of this guy, Freddie Snyder.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Yeah, so this guy just basically shows up at Carl's house like a few months prior. And he's acting strange. He's acting weird. He's got a gun. But nothing really came of it. Well, they didn't press charges. He should have pressed charges. Well, I guess.
Starting point is 00:44:37 But they either, you know, either way, I mean, trespassing charges. Yeah, that's nothing. Yeah. And so this guy obviously was out on a mission and he was probably acting weird because direct energy weapon. Who the hell knows? I don't think we understand like how people can be controlled by these things. And if intelligence or even darker organizations, and we always think about like CIA Mossad, MI6 are like the most advanced people on the planet, they're not. Whoever is in control of this advanced technology that were reverse engineering from UFOs potentially that have existed billions of years before.
Starting point is 00:45:11 us, there is absolutely no telling the type of technology that these people harness. And Sherry, you remember, like, when Ashton Forbes used to come on and all this stuff, and we had talked with Ashton, you know, he was talking about the orbs and plasma and zero point energy and all of that stuff. But one of the things that we had talked about on one of those shows was I said, you know, I think the scariest part of this whole reverse engineering thing is like who actually is in charge of this. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Because it's not the, it's not the United States government. like regardless of what you guys want to think the united states government is not in control of this um our congress our senate our actual white house i don't think knows a damn thing about most of this i don't think so either so what we're saying is is that there is potentially a group of people not just in the united states but i think potentially in the world that have the most advanced weaponry that we could ever imagine that not only they don't they don't have to use a nuclear warhead they don't have to use missiles and bombs, they can literally kill people with energy weapons that they direct into their brain to get them to kill their damn selves. I mean, I know that sounds like some sci-fi shit,
Starting point is 00:46:20 but that's literally where we're at. And that's what I ask Ash and I said. The problem with this is, is that if we have no oversight by Congress, we have no oversight in Senate, our government can actually figure out what the truth is because all of our Congress people that you elect and our senators and whoever else, they can't get answers for you. I mean, that's supposed to be your representatives in our government to make sure that our government is doing what they're supposed to be doing. And in specific, making sure the people that are supposed to be held by the same laws as we are are also doing the same things that we are supposed to do, which is abide by the laws. But the problem is there is a, when you think about deep state and when you think about this
Starting point is 00:46:59 dark, sinister clandestine organization or group of people behind the scenes, these people probably have more power than any government force on the planet. and these are not government officials. They're not military personnel. They are private elites, I believe, that have all the energy and all the power. And if you think about who's really in charge of the New World Order and the globalist movement and all, whatever the hell it is, these people are even beyond those people. And so that's what you have to think about.
Starting point is 00:47:29 And then if you think about like how people are explaining the UFO phenomenon and the orbs, and you think about how like we're in a Paulina Luna and where Tim Burchett and a lot of these people are starting to say, Anna Pauline Luna just said two days ago, she's one of the main investigatory Congresswomen, along with Tim Burchett and others in this committee that is literally grilling these whistleblowers, trying to get them in skiffs, trying to go these places. She said two days ago, she said, if you want to learn about what we're about to find out likely about the UFO phenomenon, read the book of Enoch. That's what she said.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Yeah. So what you're saying is, basically, is that we have a group of people or organizations that have no oversight by the government, that sounds like they're working with Satan. I mean, that's literally what it sounds like. They're working with the watchers. If you want to say that, and I don't necessarily, I'm not saying the all UFOs or or evil or Satan,
Starting point is 00:48:24 but what I am saying is that if you're going to try to tell us that these orbs and all these things we're seeing is from the book of Enog, which is the watchers, the Nephilim, all that stuff. And then we have organizations that have control of the technology that they are harnessing from these things, just like, by the way, happened in the Book of Enoch when the Watchers came down and manipulated and basically gave weapons and taught people all these things. They gave weapons to men so that they could go kill other people. I mean, they were never doing things to benefit humanity.
Starting point is 00:48:58 They were only doing things to corrupt and divide humanity is what they were doing. And so are they still doing that as the big question? We don't know. But then you also got to talk about, let's see, we'll talk about your guy. What was your guy's name, Sherry? David Wilcock. David Wilcox. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:15 So here's David Wilcox. This is a story that happened in Boulder, Colorado. And this was a pretty interesting story as well. April 20th. April, just this April 20th? Yes. Oh, so this was just the other day. Like two days ago.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Yeah. So listen to this story. It's pretty wild. One of the horridest videos I've ever made. Because today we're not just talking about a researcher. We're talking about a man who inspired millions, a man who dedicated his life to uncovering hidden truths, a man who is maybe no longer with us.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Reports have emerged that David Wilcock has passed away at the age of just 53. And if this is true, this is not just a loss. It's a shock. According to initial information... And by the way, so this video is saying maybe killed it or maybe is passed away. He is dead now. He did kill himself.
Starting point is 00:50:22 And you'll... You probably won't hear it from this video, but... No, you will. But it's important to hear this video because he put this video out before we even knew what happened to him. Yeah. And this is what's crazy about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:34 So he did end up killing himself in front of law enforcement when law enforcement arrived. Close to Boulder, Colorado, yes. But it's still just a fact of like everything we're talking about, about the mind, where their minds all are going right now and how all that's happening. And authorities responded to a 911 call on April 20, 2006. Now, this happened near Ridge Road in Colorado. The cops arrived and within minutes a man reportedly used a weapon on himself. The case was recorded, closed, simple. But is it really that simple?
Starting point is 00:51:19 Because those who followed David Wilcock closely know something very important. He had repeatedly said, I would never take my own life. Not once, but multiple times, and that's where the questions begin. David Wilcock was not just another author. He was deeply involved in topics like UFOs, extraterrestrial contact, ancient civilizations. He appeared on shows like ancient aliens multiple times. sometimes I appeared on the same episodes with him on ancient aliens and History Channel, and he built a massive following.
Starting point is 00:52:10 And there is a pattern developing, right, because I don't post obituaries on my platforms, but something strange is developing. Eric von Daniken, gone. Nick Pope, gone just two weeks ago. Now, there are 11 scientists already gone or disappeared recently. They were all involved in high-level space and nuclear research. Now, this is the latest news from Fox News. David Wilcoq was not a scientist, but he was working on anti-gravity technology.
Starting point is 00:52:54 And some even believed he was in telepathic contact with AirBee. Now, agree or disagree, there is one thing you cannot deny. He had influence. Now here's something that makes the situation even more unsettling. In his recent appearances, David spoke about his health. He mentioned blurry vision, nervous system issues, low energy, tingling sensations. He even said, this doesn't feel like aging. You know, something is different.
Starting point is 00:53:31 And then this has happened. For almost a year, David put no videos on YouTube, even though he had half a million subscribers. He only did live sessions. And just two days before this news, he went live again. And he did not show any signs of taking his own life. He was talking about politics, he was talking about Donald Trump, he was talking about UFO disclosure, and in the video before, he was talking about crop circles and global issues.
Starting point is 00:54:12 Now, if you look at these videos, you cannot help but wonder, does that sound like someone preparing to end their life? Or someone still engaged, still fighting, still speaking. Now, here's where things become even more complicated. People close to him have spoken about cyber bullying, harassment, legal pressure, constant attacks. There are even claims that authorities were contacted multiple times, but no strong action was taken. And then there are other claims that may or may not be true. Claims of being targeted, being silenced, even slow poisoning. Now, these are serious claims, and right now they remain unverified.
Starting point is 00:55:11 But when you combine everything together, a pattern begins to form. A man researching controversial topics. A man claiming access to hidden knowledge. A man under pressure. A man with declining health. And suddenly he's gone. Now, even more strange, there's very little mainstream media coverage,
Starting point is 00:55:43 almost nothing. A person who appeared on global shows, wrote books, produced documentaries, And yet, silence? I just saw one statement from X, from Representative Anna Paulina Luna. She expressed condolences, praying for his family and acknowledging the millions he impacted. But still, no deep investigation coverage, no major headlines, no detailed breakdown of what really happened.
Starting point is 00:56:22 There to go. That was David Wilcock. And, you know, you think about blurred vision, you know, very just muddy mind, can't think straight. Very similar. Very similar to Amy Eskridge. Very similar to McCaslin. Very similar to all these people.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Yes. And so there's something obviously going on. And I'll be honest, like when we were researching this, when I was researching this, I was using AI, I said, hey, pull every single person has disappeared from this time to this time that was connected to anything. whatsoever and as by the way the name of this youtube channel is real provene mohan you guys should go follow him he did a good job uh breaking this david wilcox story down but the interesting thing is yet there hasn't been any media coverage because even a i did not even bring up david wilcox
Starting point is 00:57:07 now maybe that's because it's so new it's like so recent this happened well it's two days i mean we knew about charlie kirk when he got assassinated i know but i'm just saying it's just strange how they didn't kind of pull that end to everything so that was David Wilcock. And then, let's see, Jason Thomas. Jason Thomas was a 45-year-old Norvartis chemical biology or biology researcher disappeared in December 2025 from Wakefield, Massachusetts, and was later found dead in March of 26 after his body was recovered.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Now, I want to get to this story real quick, a quick video, but we'll talk about this as well. Listen. The family of a missing Wakefield man is making a renewed effort to try to find their loved one. 45-year-old Jason Thomas disappeared back in mid-December. He was last seen in the area of Murray and Chestnut Streets in town. Searchers and leads for the Novartis scientists have come up empty, who had been dealing with the recent loss of his parents. His family is pleading with people tonight in Wakefield, Stoneham, Redding, and surrounding towns
Starting point is 00:58:13 to check their home security cameras for, any possible images from December 12th through the 14th. We spoke to his wife earlier this afternoon. It's really hard to not have him here, and I miss him dearly. I miss him so much. And I really want to know that he's okay. And more importantly, I really would love to have him home again. Now, they are pleading if anyone gave him a ride to please contact police.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Jason's birthday is January 10th, and they're hoping for a safe return by that milestone. all right so there you go um and by the way he ended up being found in a pond dead and this guy was a very fit guy um very headstrong guy uh there was also some reports that he had been experiencing some type of mental issues leading up to his disappearance and as i said you know he was a chemical biological researcher and when you think about that i was like what does that mean well we know that he worked for the United States government or at least was contracted and he also worked for pharmaceutical but one of the i guess his expertise was chemical biological uh condomption i think is what it's called so where you essentially can reproduce or replicate biological uh cells and so that's another
Starting point is 00:59:35 very strange thing he was connected in a lot of ways to if you think about like human biologics or non-human biologics. Potentially, you would have this guy that would work on some of these things. I know that he was connected to certain programs inside of the United States military from what we're hearing that this would be the guy that you would get for non-human biologics and trying to figure out if you were to breed, you know, aliens and people together, this would be one of the guys that you would contact. Yeah, and we actually did a podcast about that.
Starting point is 01:00:05 And I was like, oh, my gosh, this is going to be a crazy one. But who knows? Yeah. And then you have Nuno F.G. Lareo, a 47-year-old MIT physicist and director of the plasma science infusion center. He was shot at his home in Brookline, Massachusetts on December 15, 2025 and died shortly after with investigators identifying a suspect and describing the incident as a targeted attack. So they described as a targeted attack. We don't exactly know what the target was or why they targeted him. but here is a quick little piece on,
Starting point is 01:00:39 on Noon. Listen. Into the shooting death of an MIT professor whose research aimed to move the world towards clean and near-limitless energy. 47-year-old Noon-Lorero was pronounced dead at a hospital Tuesday morning after being shot inside his Brookline, Massachusetts apartment,
Starting point is 01:00:58 a few miles outside of Boston. Neighbors said they heard multiple gunshots. I heard three loud bangs. I thought at first it was somebody in our apartment kicking in the door or something. It's scary to be in Brookline. It's supposed to be the safe town, and no one's talking. Loved ones were seen gathering outside of Lerro and his wife's home Tuesday night.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Such a bizarre thing. It's hard to imagine. It was random to tell you the truth. It's a family that's feeling such raw horror, I'm sure, terror. What do you do with something that's indescribable? Lerero joined MIT in 2016. He was a professor in the university's department. of nuclear science and engineering, along with the physics department.
Starting point is 01:01:42 He was also director of MIT's plasma science and fusion center. Fusion plasmas are very hot plasmas needed for nuclear fusion. For example, the sun and stars run on nuclear fusion. On Earth, naturally occurring plasmas include lightning and the Aurora Borealis. Lorero's research helped engineers design better fusion reactors by improving how plasmas are controlled and stabilized, aimed at moving closer to practical fusion energy. This would essentially wipe out the need for coal mining, oil drilling, fracking, fuel pipelines, and tanker shipping. Lorero told MIT news in 2018 that fusion energy will change the course of human history,
Starting point is 01:02:19 and it's both humbling and exciting to be leading the research center that will play a key role in enabling that change. As the investigation into his murder continues, speculation is now rising over whether the MIT professor was targeted for his work. Taylor Tinsley, One American News. Sorry, there you go. That was, you know, Nuno was a guy that was seeking free energy. And not only was he seeking free energy, by the way, Ashton Forbes did a two hour piece on this.
Starting point is 01:02:49 Not that long ago, you know, us and Ashton, we don't really talk that much anymore. What I will say, though, however, about Ashton. And the reason why I bring up Ashton is because Ashton's research and everything he's been talking about and discussing and all of this stuff, you know, we've known Ashton. We were the first podcast that Ashton Forbes ever came. came on and it was strange because like everything was perfectly good for a two years probably
Starting point is 01:03:14 and then like he for whatever reason in my opinion completely changed uh based on he never used to be you know interested in politics nothing and then all of a sudden he has been going against everybody he is it's strange i mean it's strange because like the people that could help him and help further his cause and help further his research it seems like he's he's completely lashing out against and going against. And I've always said, like, there's something up with Ashen. I don't know what it is. Well, it's even like it was two podcasts before, like we had him on several times.
Starting point is 01:03:49 But I think it was like the second to last podcast. Do you remember when we had him on and he just was not acting himself? No, absolutely not. All over the place. I'm like, Chad, this is terrible. And Ashton is never terrible. He always like just engulfs me with information. I'm like, oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:04:07 this is just crazy. This is great. And, you know, he's so smart and intelligent, but there were something going on with him, even that podcast, and that was a while ago. And I also wonder, could the same thing be happening to Ashton right now? Could people be going after him because he knows what these rules are of free energy? And he wants to harness this free energy. Is he stepping into a line that is, like, scary?
Starting point is 01:04:34 Like the dark web or the dark whatever, you know? what I'm saying. Yeah, absolutely. It scares me for him because I still, I appreciate Ashton's intelligence. I like Ashton as a person. I think that he went the wrong way or whatever. And, you know, it's almost like he wants people to hate him for some reason. I don't understand why.
Starting point is 01:04:54 I still like Ashton, even though he does that because I know the real Ashton. And that is not Ashton that we know. Yeah, he absolutely completely changed. It was like a flip of a switch. And that was strange for me. And it still is. And so, you know, he had done a two-hour piece on Nuno, which is the piece you just heard. And Nuno was, you know, he was closer to free energy and fusion and plasma.
Starting point is 01:05:19 And basically, as you heard the piece say, if his research breaks through, which it was literally at the cusp of. I mean, he had everything ready to go. We're talking about free energy. We're talking about no use for oil, coal, nothing. you know, all of the biggest BPs and the oil companies and all of the money that is just, you know, you think about big pharma, how much money they make, the military industrial complex. You think about how money they make. But man, I'm talking about big oil, energy. I think energy is one of the most.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Oh, absolutely. And they're one of the most profitable corporations or I guess what you can say fields that there is. So like if, you know, think back to Nikola Tesla. Nicola Tesla died. They took all of his shit and we've never seen that again. And there's a reason for that because Nicola Tesla was very close to, you know, or not I don't even think it was close. He had the actual science behind what he was trying to prove to the world.
Starting point is 01:06:17 And guess who stole it? Well. Trump's grandfather. Yeah, MIT. Well, you know, and I know Trump's grandfather was MIT as well. But then, you know, he was also head of a lot of these various programs. And yeah, it sounds like Trump's grandfather had some. sort of connection to Tesla.
Starting point is 01:06:35 You guys can look that up for yourself. But either way. So that Nuno guy was very close to this free energy type system, which I think that it's not necessarily reverse engineering, although Ashen has said many times that, hey, it's not that we can say that like UFOs aren't real. We're not trying to say that. But, you know, Ashen is not necessarily worried about UFOs.
Starting point is 01:06:55 He's worried about like, we're not worried about he's researching. Regardless of UFOs, how do we get the, energy. How do we get the free energy and how does it work? And I think that there is a lot of papers out there. Ashing's interviewed a ton of people about it. And this really does exist. But the problem is when you have people to get a big enough voice that start talking about
Starting point is 01:07:15 this and start really trying to push through these things based on, and I think it all does tie back to this UFO reverse engineering programs. Yeah. This is where we got a lot of this information and technology. This is how we know about it today. And I think that the people that are leading the charge on these things are disappearing. We also got to talk about Stephen Garcia, a government contractor that was connected to the Kansas City National Security Campus Facility in Albuquerque.
Starting point is 01:07:40 Now, he was last seen on August 28th of 2025 at the age of 48, leaving his home on foot while carrying a handgun and has now been missing for nearly eight months. And this is the quick news nation piece on Stephen Garcia. Listen. Investigators gone that far to make connections. I'm joined by somebody who has been tracking every one of these stories, connecting the dots herself, asking the questions that others aren't Los Angeles magazine contributor, Lauren Conlin. Great to see you again, not wearing an alien dress. Totally fine. Not tonight.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Who is this guy, Garcia? Stephen Garcia, man, Jesse, this one is chilling to me because, as you said, it echoes Neil McCaslin's disappearance right down to the state. It's like the same thing. The same thing, the state of New Mexico. So Stephen Garcia, I mean, he had a top security clearance at Casey NSE. Is that per source, though? A source said that right? This is per source.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Yes, per source that was close to Garcia. But look, where he worked at Casey NSE, I mean, they manufacture 80% of non-nuclear components that go into building military nuclear weapons. And, I mean, he oversaw tens of millions of dollars of assets, equipment, some classified, some not. I mean, we don't know what was going on in this guy's head, right? The officials had said that he may have been a danger to himself. He was seen carrying a gun, and it sounds crazy, but between Garcia and General McCaslin, I have to wonder, and again, I know this sounds crazy, but it could be an option here. I mean, is the government doing this? Are they taking out their
Starting point is 01:09:20 own people because of XYZ? And wait, I want to point something else out to you, Jesse. I don't even want to Literally, I'm on a roll. I'm on a roll. But tomorrow, April 14th, that is when Rub Anna Luna gave Pete Hegseth this deadline. She requested 46 UAP videos. And look, there's a good reason behind it. I mean, these videos, she detailed in this filing. And they say, you know, Iran, XYZ date, you know, 22. Syria, XYZ date, shaped like a cigar. You know, this is a matter of national security. And this is important because in real time, we don't know what's in the sky. We don't know if this is some kind of, you know, a UAP. We don't know if it's a drone. We just, we don't know enough. Are you getting any official word from authorities, investigators that are maybe trying to link these 10 episodes? Are they all disconnected?
Starting point is 01:10:17 They're saying you can't make a connection. Because, again, I mean, you think it laid it out very well. There are eerie similarities. Of course there are. You're absolutely right. And I've, you know, I've reached out to rep Burlinson's office, rep Bert Berlits office, and I did hear back from Burleson's office last week. And look, they said, you know, they haven't heard directly from the White House and they haven't brought up General McCastlin's disappearance at all. They were being very safe with me, I want to say. Rep. Berchett's office didn't respond to me at all. But Burchett just said, I forget what show he was on, but he just said,
Starting point is 01:10:52 He talked to, quote, folks at the White House about this and that President Trump is about to do some disrupting. I just don't believe it. Obama tried to release these UFO files. Clinton tried to release them. Nothing happened. I get it. People think Trump is different, but what's so different? I mean, there has been a lot of questions about, did they get any call? Did they get any messages? Because just to leave the house allegedly armed in such a strange way. I mean, even with McCaslin, there was an alleged. there's an allegation that he didn't want to be found. Anything about what they were up to in the days, weeks, hours before? So there is nothing public.
Starting point is 01:11:33 And I mean, I am digging right now. You know, it's tough. You want to reach out to family members. You want to reach out to friends, but you want to do it in, you know, in a way that's not so invasive. I mean, these are, their family members are missing. This is very serious. And, you know, I saw Facebook post. Stephen Garcia's, I think it was his niece who was like has anyone.
Starting point is 01:11:52 seen my uncle just begging, pleading. And so you really have to think about, you know, the, the protections for whistleblowers as well. There's so much that needs to be said. And it's just, it's, it's terrible. You might not know the answer to this. Did they know each other? Did any of these people know each other work together in the same Venn diagram? I mentioned New Mexico together, but. Right. Well, we discussed last week, we discussed Monica Riza, who worked alongside or underneath Neil McAllen, and they both were stationed at right, Patterson. So there is a connection there. You know, I, I haven't made connections between any of the others just yet. I do, you know, know that it is interesting. Carl Grilmer, I've been looking into
Starting point is 01:12:37 his death, the Caltech astrophysicist, I did notice some neighbors in the area, and he lives in a very remote area. They also worked in aerospace research, which, again, I am, I wish I had all day to focus on this story, Jesse. I really do. But, but I'll get there. I will. It's not going any. All right. So there you go. And we're talking about, you know, and here's the, here's the thing about all this thing. You know, the Stephen Garcia piece, all of this. You know, they, I think she sums it up pretty decently well. Like, is this our own government? Because, you know, what I do want to start seeing is like, how much is our government actually going to investigate this? Like, where will this go? Because you already heard Trump at the very beginning of this show say, well, you know, it might be coincidences or whatever.
Starting point is 01:13:23 He said I'm hoping. I'm hoping it's coincidences. Yeah. But and look, Trump's not going to probably know about any of this stuff. But we also don't ever know who knows what and who they, you know, are they trying to play it off or are they not? It's hard for someone like Trump to try to play off shit. I mean, that's just pretty obvious. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:40 Because he's a truth. He tells the truth somewhat. No, he doesn't. He lies a lot. Well, no, but I'm saying, I'm saying that he can't keep his mouth shut regardless, whether it's a lie or a truth. He's going to say something and he'll just say things and that sometimes gets him in trouble. But in this particular case, this guy did almost exactly what McCaslin did. He left his house with a gun and, you know, and this guy was connected to high level, top secret type of work. And it's so funny that
Starting point is 01:14:07 News Nation wants to ask, well, this is based on a source that he had top secret clearance. The dude worked at like one of the most top secret facilities in the United States. Of course he has a top secret clearance. But it's just curious to me that now I know. of at least two scientists that have named Iran. David Wilcock said in his latest video before he supposedly committed suicide that we have Iran's sleeper cells in America. And we have to watch out for that. And then Garcia was naming Iran too. I'm just thinking about, you know, as a teacher when I was a first grade teacher, I always write down the main idea.
Starting point is 01:14:46 Are we really trying to say this is Iran doing all this? No, I'm not. I'm just saying it's interesting. that Iran keeps coming up into this, and they're naming Iran for some reason. I don't know why. I just wrote down the name and I connected the two because both of them have come out and said something about that. I don't know about that other scientists, but I just thought that was interesting.
Starting point is 01:15:06 Yeah, that is definitely interesting. But, you know, what she was talking about kind of in the back half of that piece was Monica Reza. Now Reza was connected to McCaslin. And so she was an aerospace engineer and former director at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory. She was last seen on June 22nd, 2025, while hiking. Isn't this all interesting? They all just always go walking and hiking.
Starting point is 01:15:32 And leave their guns behind. Yeah. So she was hiking near Mount Waterman and Angeles National Forest, California, at age 60, and has now been missing for about 10 months. And so here is a little piece on Monica Reza. Listen. There are a lot of similarities and possible question marks that rise when you look at both of these missing person cases. So Monica Reza was somebody who went missing about nine months ago last summer in the Los Angeles Forest.
Starting point is 01:16:01 The conditions of her disappearance are rather odd because she was hiking with a friend. That friend was about 30 feet in front of her on the trail. According to that friend, he had turned around, made eye contact with Monica. She smiled and waved and indicated that she was okay. and he continued on the hike. Moments later, he turned around, and Monica had essentially disappeared. She was nowhere to be seen. So he, rightfully so, alerted the authorities, and a full search and rescue effort was made to try to find her.
Starting point is 01:16:31 Her body was never found. To this day, she's never been found. Her body's never been found. Very suspicious because they were on a very popular trail in the Los Angeles Forest. Just very weird. But obviously, what connects this to the general is that they have a history and a past of working together. Monica Reza was an aerospace engineer who developed, invented, and patented a special type of metal that's used in rockets here in the United States. And the United States government
Starting point is 01:16:59 funded that project, and that project was overseen by General McCaslin. So now we have two very separate missing persons cases that have all happened within less than a year of each other. And these two people are known to have worked together on these very important United States government projects. There you go. And so let's break this. Let's break this down for a minute. She went missing like two months before he did. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:23 But Reza was out hiking with her friend, 30 feet in front of her. And then he looks back. She's good. Okay, cool. Keep hiking. Looks back again. She's gone. And yet they had search parties out there.
Starting point is 01:17:35 And she completely disappeared off the face of the earth. And that's the same thing that happened with William. Or they call him Neil, I guess. Yeah. The same thing. He just disappeared. But he wasn't with a friend. friend.
Starting point is 01:17:46 No. The difference is with Reza is that she was with a friend. I mean, unless he killed her and buried her somewhere out there, or he or she, whoever the friend was, but you know, you can't be hiking in front of someone 30 yards away.
Starting point is 01:17:58 And we're also talking about in like California. It's not heavily, heavily wooded. You could maybe get away with that theory. If you're like in, say the great smoky mountains of North Carolina or Tennessee, like up in the thick forest, you're walking with someone 30 feet ahead of them
Starting point is 01:18:16 I mean, still doesn't make a lot of sense. And then one, you know, I don't know, 20 minutes later you look back, they're gone. But either way, you call search parties. You say, hey, here's the last time I seen this person. They're going to search that entire grid. And if you're there, they're going to find you. It's different than like you going hiking by yourself in the middle of the woods where no one knows where the hell you went and maybe never finding you.
Starting point is 01:18:38 But even in those cases, they usually eventually find you. Even if you're off trail or whatever. I remember the story of that older lady. that went missing in, I think it was in Appalachian Trail. Yeah. In North Carolina. Yeah. Appalachian Trail.
Starting point is 01:18:52 She got off the trail and she, I think they said that she survived for like 38 days or something. Yeah. And they eventually found her. Yeah. So they eventually found her. But she was way off trail. This is in very thick forest.
Starting point is 01:19:07 But out there in Los Angeles in Southern California or New Mexico or Arizona, it's actually really pretty easy to find people in a lot of cases. It's not nearly as. hard as it is in the Great Smoky Mountains, the thick, condensed vegetation to where you can't use aerials or aircraft to find people. But the biggest thing here is like, what the hell happened to her? Where did she go? It is crazy.
Starting point is 01:19:30 But I'm thinking about like when we go hiking on trails, we're usually not 30 feet apart or 30 yards apart. No. We're usually like right next to each other. Well, it depends on if I can't breathe. Yeah. Then I'm like, Chad, meet me up. Or vice versa.
Starting point is 01:19:44 The next hill. Or vice versa. But that's the story, but that's the thing you got to think about too. It's like, how did she disappear? And so then you got to start thinking about like, I mean, I know this sounds crazy, but like abduction. Like could she have literally evaporated off that trail? Ten months later, I think it's actually 12 months now, not found her.
Starting point is 01:20:06 And so you're talking about a situation where this lady was hiking with a friend. And within a 20 minute time frame, he saw her, then he didn't. They called the search parties. nowhere to be found months and months and months and months later almost a year later. Yeah. So her body disappeared, it seems like, from wherever and for whatever reason. Same with William. Yeah, he just disappeared.
Starting point is 01:20:27 They can't find him either. They can't find him either. They knew all the potential places that McCaslin hiked out there in Arizona. You know, they knew his favorite trails. I think it was pretty close to Nancy Guthrie's house. Yeah, it is very, very close. But yeah, so this guy disappears as well. and no one can find him.
Starting point is 01:20:46 Are these people being kidnapped? I mean, that's a possibility. Was she kidnapped off the trail for whatever reason and taken somewhere else? And how would the person that was hiking with her, even if it was 30 yards or 30 feet or whatever it is in front of her, would he not have noticed something? Would someone not have noticed something? This was a popular high control? We don't know. But then you also have to talk about who is the next person here?
Starting point is 01:21:09 I think we have Matthew James Sullivan. He was a former U.S. Air Force intelligence officer. He died on May 12th, 2024 at the age of 39, with later political claims suggesting he may have been connected to sensitive federal discussions, though no official cause of death has been publicly tied to this broader investigation. Here is the clip on Matthew James Sullivan. Listen. Matthew James Sullivan, a former U.S. Air Force intelligence officer and fifth generation aircraft Intel Chief. at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base was set to testify to Congress regarding UAP UFO secrets. This gentleman, Mr. Sullivan, worked for the National Air and Space Intelligence Center and DARPA with high-level clearances.
Starting point is 01:22:02 And his death here in 2024 is now being investigated following concerns over potential foul play, thanks to Congressman Eric Berluson out of Missouri. Sullivan was preparing to be a key witness for congressional investigators looking into UAPs. And Berluson has now started to share with the media now that he had grave concerns that Sullivan's death appears to be suspicious, suggesting that the veteran intelligence officer may have been targeted to silence him before revealing any knowledge he may have had on non-human spacecraft or even extraterrestials. Several scientists as we know and administrative officials with ties to NASA and nuclear research, aerospace programs, classified programs have been coming up missing or becoming unalived over and over. But this one is this one's super interesting. This was somebody who was ready to come out, ready to speak, and was on record that we knew he was ready to speak.
Starting point is 01:23:02 And we have somebody in the halls of Congress who thinks that something just isn't, is a. adding up. So there you go. And, you know, and it's so funny because like we're talking about this, Sherry. And, you know, with what we talk about on the show all the time, it's like I'm still confused, I guess, how people don't understand that regardless in a lot of ways of who you vote for, how literal sinister that this government is. And people like to say, oh, you're anti-American. You're this. No, I'm freaking pro-American. That's why I'm fighting for this shit. That's what we have get this information out to you guys. That's why we have to fight against corruption. And, you know, it's like saying that if your local sheriff's department is doing corrupt
Starting point is 01:23:46 shit, you're anti-police or you're anti-your county, you're anti-South Carolina. That's ridiculous. You have to hold people accountable that are the ones that supposedly you put in the power to make the decisions that are going to best benefit you. But when they don't best benefit you and they best benefit other people, other nations, other organizations, you have to call it out. If you don't, then yes, you are in some type of weird mindset, I guess, at the very least. I don't necessarily think it's our government at this point. I don't want to point fingers at our government. We don't know that for a fact, but we do know what's happening. And people are disappearing. People are being suicided that I don't think should have been suicided and people
Starting point is 01:24:29 are being murdered. There's also other possibilities that could be happening. Well, first of all, like I said in the first part of the show, I'm telling you, that most of this advanced research and most of the UAP stuff, the advanced propulsion, as I had already said earlier about what our conversation with Ashen was, I think these groups are not government at all. Yeah. I think these groups are not oversighted by the government. I think the government has very little control over these organizations or groups of people.
Starting point is 01:24:58 I think they are likely the most dangerous people in our world and to our country right now. Obviously, I mean, if these people, which obviously have, ties and I guess you can say they have benefits off of these people dying because they don't want certain information getting out. Right. There's a problem with that. Yes. Now, here's the other thing is like, would you say that these people are dying because they
Starting point is 01:25:21 don't want these people saying something about national security or our advanced weaponry and maybe they just got to kill them? Maybe. But why would the U.S. government not just come out and say, look, these are not UFOs. These are not like some kind of, you know, woohoo. Because they can't because they know they are. No, I know, but that's what I'm saying. If it was our advanced technology, everything we're seeing in the skies and all the stuff that we, you know, have experienced for thousands of years is not just now.
Starting point is 01:25:48 I mean, people have experienced this for thousands of years, even in biblical days. The reason why the government, like you said, is not coming out and saying, well, this is our advanced technology. Because you would think that if it was our technology, especially Trump and this administration, they would be like, yeah, they'd be like, look, this is definitely our shit. So don't screw with us. Right. And we're not talking about this shit anymore. But they can't say that for whatever reason. Now, they could say, look, we're not talking about UFO stuff anymore because a lot of this is national defense.
Starting point is 01:26:14 A lot of this is maybe advanced programs that we have are working on. These are advanced weapons systems that the world can't even imagine. Right. And the United States would be absolutely perfect to say that because then the world would be on notice. The world would be like, oh, shit. Like these UFO things that we've been seeing for, well, technically thousands of years, which is why the world wouldn't believe it. But either way, the government could try to lie about it at least and say, look, this is our shit.
Starting point is 01:26:41 No, but maybe they can say it's their shit. But I think other governments have the same shit we do. Well, I don't think so. But you don't think. But here's the thing. Like, even with the Iran war, whatever people want to believe or not believe, I don't think that Iran war went exactly as what, you know, like conservatives or Republicans want to believe it went.
Starting point is 01:26:59 I think that we thought we could go into Iran and just take out everything and do we wanted to do take it or take out their military the straight of Hormuz would would be open we would have no issues there if we had weaponry like this there would be no china anymore there would be no russia it would be the united states of the world and that would be the way it is there would be no voting anymore yeah but there would be a one world system and and and i'm telling you guys this would be the way it is if you have technology like this to where you could completely take over the world within the next two hours. You can release these drones across the world that are that are running at breakneck
Starting point is 01:27:39 speeds that have weaponry. You've never seen before. Lasers. You could blow up entire places. And then you take over all of their land. But we have proved that we have those, just like you were talking about in Venezuela. Yeah, but you're talking about just combulators. But we're not talking about like we are not fully in control.
Starting point is 01:27:55 We don't have, I believe, the power and the technology that these UAPs actually have. No, I don't think so either. trying and we're getting certain things just like she said like I think it was macasselin that worked on and and and and resa which was his associate that worked on advanced metals right in some of our rocket systems and what that makes me think about metals we don't even have on earth well no no one said that but what I'm saying is is that she talks about advanced metals but what that makes me think about is element 115 was it 115 that Bob Lazard talked about that he had himself right right and that was what he got to
Starting point is 01:28:32 from Airy S4. Is that what the metals that we're referring to that McCaslin and Reza has? We don't know. But then you also have Michael David Hicks. He was a longtime NASA jet propulsion laboratory scientist who specialized in comets and asteroids. He died on July 30 at 2023 at the age of 59 in California after nearly 25 years working in planetary science with no widely publicized cause of death in recent reporting.
Starting point is 01:28:57 And this is Michael Hicks. Listen to this. Michael David Hicks, I believe, was the one who cause of death was not announced. He died in 2023 and donations were asked to be given to alcoholics anonymous. Yes, sir. Also marked him yellow because, while it doesn't give a cause of death, certainly doesn't mention suicide, doesn't mention murder or anything like that. And it does allude to the fact that he had a drinking problem. This is a scientist who worked in the JPL laboratory.
Starting point is 01:29:25 And he was working. He was a research scientist who participated in NASA's DART project and experiment to determine whether it is possible to divert potentially hazardous asteroids from striking Earth overlapping with defense systems. There we go. That was Michael Hicks. Now, the funny thing about this is that when he died, although there was no cause of death of why he died, they, in public releases after his death, they said that all funding or all donations to his death or to his family could go to alcohol anonymous or alcoholic programs.
Starting point is 01:29:59 And then it was interesting as I started digging that his family said, I'm not exactly sure who put that out about Alcoholics Anonymous because he didn't drink, basically. Oh, shit. He's like one of the most renowned scientists for DARPA. Like our, I mean, and so if you think about like you're an alcoholic and you're going to go to work and figure out all this shit for years and you're like one of the most top scientists in the world, reminds me like top flight security, Craig. That's on that's on next Friday. but if you're this guy and yet they they push this kind of public narrative they they pushed it just enough yeah they pushed it just enough to where it's like donate all your you know all your donations to alcohol
Starting point is 01:30:40 this or alcohol that yeah whatever it is and so then a lot of people came out I was like well he wasn't even an alcoholic like I don't understand what the hell the point of this is it was just a front it was a front because they wanted people to hear oh he was alcoholic done let's move on this is what they do. They don't want you to look into any of this. And I don't think people understand how easy it is for a news organization, mainstream media, even though they are nobody anymore, but if
Starting point is 01:31:09 one news organization, if you hear it right now, CNN, MSNNN, MSN, Fox News, whatever, and they say, well, donations were set up for alcohol, AA, or I mean, AA, AA, or some other type of alcohol program, your mind's automatically going to think. all right, he probably died from alcohol. Right. It was some type of alcohol related shit or suicide or whatever.
Starting point is 01:31:30 They always be like, well, you should, you could donate your, your donations to suicide awareness or whatever. It's all to put this little thing in your mind to where you move on and you never question it again. That's why they do this. And yet they had no cause of death whatsoever. And the other interesting thing about all of this is like a lot of the family members that have either come forward or the ones that have been very quiet, most of the other.
Starting point is 01:31:55 of them have been quiet most of them have not said a damn word about any of these disappearances there has been i think one on record that has said hey i don't think this is connected and that was the guy that got shot in his freaking yard from some random dude that showed up two months earlier right like would you not wonder who the hell this guy was and why he showed up at your house a couple months earlier and then come back comes back to kill you and yet your family's automatically going to make a statement to say this is not connected are the families being coer to say these things. We have to understand that all of these people are either missing or dead.
Starting point is 01:32:31 There's a reason for that. I do think it's connected to our advanced research programs. I think it's connected to the UFO phenomenon. I think that whoever it is that is in control of these programs, when we had talked to Ashton about like, well, the scariest part of this is, is not necessarily the UFOs flying through a sky, is that who are the people that are in control of these programs that are trying to reverse engineer potentially very advanced technology and very dangerous technology to our world.
Starting point is 01:33:03 Because if you think about it this way, just think about these UFOs, which it seems like, at least, if you just think about them from like a physical standpoint, not interdimensional, not some demons or watchers or whatever. But if you think about them from like some little green man or whatever or maybe even a lost civilization in our past, they haven't been harmful to us. Like if they wanted to take out all of humanity, they could. I mean, they could destroy everything on this planet, it seems, with their technology. As I said, that we could if we had the technology.
Starting point is 01:33:30 So it doesn't seem like necessarily that they are dangerous unless you start thinking about it in a different way, which is like consuming your soul and being interdimensional and the demonic type, I guess, side of this. That's a whole different thing. If these organizations or groups of people are trying to harness technology and they are successful at harness in this technology from otherwise a nonviolent society. that doesn't want to use their advanced technology against us. What do you think that these dark people that live in our world today would utilize technology that would be so consequential for the advancement of civilization today? Do you think they would use it for good or do you think they would use it for bad? Do you think these people that are behind the scenes that are potentially disappearing and
Starting point is 01:34:19 killing these people? Do you think they're killing these people because these people are doing something bad or do you think they're they're killing these people because they don't want people to know what they're actually working on because they're going to use it for weapons. You're talking about these like evil scientists. And when we say evil scientists, you always think of somebody working underground. But guess what? That's where they're working.
Starting point is 01:34:41 That's literally where most of the places that they are working on this stuff is. And it's usually funded by taxpayers and it's funded by our United States government. So although our United States government doesn't necessarily know everything that these organizations are doing, I believe, I do think that they are doing things beyond the scope of what our government knows. I think that our government, Congress people, senators and everybody else, they are being basically blinded from all this. They are there being, I guess you can say ostracized from any meetings that is actually going to give them proof of what's really going on. And so then you've got to ask yourself as like, when is the final battle? Are we going to
Starting point is 01:35:20 battle aliens or are we going to battle the people that are really trying to harness this technology because you know there's been one constant we've heard in the conspiracy realm for a very long time and if you think about conspiracies guys think about all of the conspiracies that have come true all of them and project blue beam is one in specific that i think back on and there was something that's dr stephen greer said there's something that corbell said there's something that other especially UFO researchers have said, the credible ones anyway, that says that we believe the government is going to try to sigh up us into believe in there is an alien invasion and that they are hostile.
Starting point is 01:36:00 And they're going to use that for complete and utter control, whether it's just our government or the world. But so then you've got to ask yourself, who are the people they're going to do this? Is it our government? Is it Trump? Is it Putin? No. I think it's the people that are behind the scenes that are just working on their most advanced
Starting point is 01:36:16 systems that when they get all of this technology ready to go, they're going to fake an alien invasion to be hostile. And I think potentially those are the people that are going to take over our world. If you want a one world government, you want a one world system and you want potentially like a mark of the beast to where you either take it or you don't, well, you might not have a choice because I think that these people are evil that are working on this shit. And if you want to connect it to the watchers or the Nephilim, I think you can for sure. but do I think that these everything that we're seeing is in the sky that is just doing all this
Starting point is 01:36:51 crazy stuff or our reverse engineering programs? No, I think that we've seen things in our skies for thousands of years. You can either say it's biblical, whether it's demonic or good, or you could potentially also say that, hey, there might be other things out there that we just don't understand or know about, whether that's ancient civilizations that have survived and advanced longer than we know. They've been living under the ocean, which we've talked about as well. or this could also be little green men from Zeta reticula.
Starting point is 01:37:18 We don't know. But at the very least, we do know that there are a group of people in our world that are trying to reverse engineer this technology to use it as a weapon. And I think what we have to understand is that they're not trying to use it as a weapon necessarily against Russia or China or us. I think what the bigger message here is is that they're likely trying to use this technology against all of us, against humanity. And when they can do that, we're screwed.
Starting point is 01:37:44 So anyways, I think we've covered everybody that has either went missing or dead. If we miss somebody, I apologize. We did actually miss somebody. Hold on. I'm going to stop new music because I did miss someone. I just remembered this. Here's another thing. So the other day when we were looking through everything and I looked through it again today,
Starting point is 01:38:04 I had to stop that for a second. We had heard about this plane crash that happened in Union County, South Carolina, which is not very far from us whatsoever. not very far from our home airport of Spartanburg. And I had heard about this accident, obviously, because, you know, being in aviation in this area, you hear about, you know, aviation deaths or plane crashes. And I heard about this, and I was like, damn, four people died at Union County. I was like, that is crazy.
Starting point is 01:38:35 Well, then you think about this, the people that actually died in this accident, listen to this news report real quick. And turning now to a story, we've been following as well, high profile. American scientists vanishing, turning up dead. Well, this morning, yet another decorated scientist and defense researcher dead in a plane crash in South Carolina last week. Just found out about this. Investigators say James Moffat was flying his small personal plane. They were refueling. He was with his wife and two sons when that plane crashed near the Union County Airport.
Starting point is 01:39:05 About 35 minutes south of Spartanburg. The family was traveling to their home in Huntsville, Alabama, to Raleigh when they stopped there. Now, Moffat was an aerospace engineer. He spent a lot of time in a career Army test pilot. He also worked as a flight crew support specialist for NASA, where he took part in 14 space shuttle ISS construction missions. He is now growing in this or adding to this growing list. This is a photograph now, picture of all those that have either turned up dead or missing since 2000 to 2022, actually.
Starting point is 01:39:37 Now, the White House taking this matter very seriously, they've launched an investigation. They're trying to figure out if these are. linked together right now they have not tied all these together at all jan back to you so there you go and that was uh moffit and we heard about this plane crash a couple days ago and i was like damn i was like four people dying and it was an m20 mooney and one of the things i told you actually that day i said you know he had an engine failure and it was interesting because the mooney is a fast single engine uh aircraft it's not a jet propel aircraft it's not a turbo prop it's it's a single engine and he was coming in I think from somewhere in North Carolina,
Starting point is 01:40:14 he started having engine issues somewhere over South Carolina. And as he had these engine issues, he had a complete engine failure to where he went over the airport of Union because he was trying to find the closest airport. And instead of trying to land at this airport, he circled the airport, tried to get on like a downwind to get into a final approach to where he could actually get to the airport.
Starting point is 01:40:38 But unfortunately, it crashed before he could actually make the final approach fix. So could that be connected? I mean, his home was in Huntsville, Alabama. And we also got to remember Amy Eskridge, Huntsville, Alabama. Why is Huntsville relevant to any of this? Well, we know that a lot of advanced secret programs are done in Huntsville, Alabama. And it used to be huge in the 80s and 90s. And now it's actually just been revamped.
Starting point is 01:41:02 Donald Trump revamped it like last or the very first month, I think, of his presidency. He said, we're going to make Huntsville the home of space and advanced research. Right. That's what he said. Yeah. So this guy was trying to return home. He's also in the same place that Amy Eskridge was where she did a lot of her research. And this Moffitt guy just happened to have an engine failure as he was trying to return home.
Starting point is 01:41:26 Is it coincidence or is it not? Well, we don't know. But, you know, you can make up your own mind for that. So now we're going to play it out. Guys, that's going to be it for us. We love you guys. Until next time. Peace out.
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