Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Moscow Russia Terrorist Attack | ISIS Claims Responsibility
Episode Date: March 22, 2024Earlier today, a devastating terrorist attack rocked a Moscow music venue, resulting in the tragic loss of potentially well over 100 lives, perpetrated by only four individuals. Speculation abounds re...garding the identity of the attackers, with ISIS allegedly claiming responsibility at this time. As the world grapples with the aftermath, concerns arise about the potential for this incident to escalate into a global conflict, perhaps even sparking World War III. Will this tragedy lead to catastrophic consequences? Joining us now is Chad Hower, a resident of Russia also known as the TikTok Fugitive, to share his insights on the unfolding situation. All of this and more on this episode of Moscow Russia Terrorist Attack | ISIS Claims Responsibility
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All I ever wanted was you, but you left me alone inside these empty broken walls.
And I can't see it clearly, but it's all this.
I know that you left me.
Hello and welcome to Investigator's podcast.
I'm your host, Chad, alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry, on tonight's episode.
We are going to be talking about the Moscow terror attack that has left 40 dead dozens
injured after attackers opened fire inside of a busy Moscow area concert venue, Russian state media
reports. This first came out. Right now, we are hearing that 40 people were killed. More than 100
people were injured after armed attackers stormed a popular concert venue complex near Moscow and
open fire according to preliminary information from the Federal Security Service in Russia.
State media tasks reported. Now, the attack is being investigated as a terrorist attack according to Russia's
investigative committee video footage from the site of the attack the crocus city hall concert
venue which i hope i'm saying that right shows the vast complex which is home to both the music
hall and a shopping center on fire with smoke billowing into the air ria novosti reported the armed
individuals open fire with automatic weapons and threw a grenade or an incinerary bomb which started
a fire state media russia 24 reported that the roof on the venue has partially caused
collapsed.
The attack unfolded
before the music group,
I think it's
picnic, was set to perform
according to Russian 24.
The band's manager
told state media
that the performers
were unharmed.
Russia prosecutor general's office
said unidentified people
in camera flots
broke into the Crocus City Hall
and started shooting
before the start of the concert
according to TASS.
Video footage showed panic
as the attack unfolded
with crowds of people
huddling together,
screaming and ducking
behind cushion seats
and gunshots started echoing in the vast hall.
Footage geolocated by various media outlets shows an armed individual starting at least one fire inside the venue.
The individual is seen carrying something in their hand,
and as they walk off screen, a bright flash of light from a large flame is seen in the video.
Regional Governor Andrew Vora Biav, I know I'm going to say that name wrong,
said everything was being done to save people.
A SWAT team was called to the area in more than 70.
ambulance teams and doctors were assisting victims.
Like I said, right now, around 100 people were evacuated from the building by firefighters.
Rescuers are still working to get people off the roof, according to Maine Dictorient of Ministry of Emergency
Situations and Russian Federation.
So this broke about three or four hours ago, guys.
We wanted to cover this as soon as possible.
Obviously, everything that we're going to be talking about tonight will not be definitive.
There is going to be some speculation.
there's going to be some theories and thoughts.
And by the way, Chad Howard, the TikTok Fugia, which is now residing in Russia, is going to join us here in just about five or six minutes.
But so, yeah, obviously when I saw this today, and we were probably going to do an episode tonight anyway.
We had a couple of other things we were going to cover.
Obviously, Kate Middleton came out and talked about that she has announced she has cancer now.
And then this happened, and this automatically through red flags all through my brain, right?
So you have a major part of Russia in, you know, in the capital of Russia.
I think Moscow is the capital of Russia, I believe.
But at the very least, it's the main city center in Russia.
This place is under attack.
And by the way, by what looks to be pretty well-trained military-style individuals,
we have seen some pictures and video images coming out of these individuals.
There have been some speculation whether these people are Islamic terrorists or whatever the case may be.
At least in the picture I have seen so far, it looks like they are white.
Don't know the nationality yet, but it does look at least like they're white.
Would you not say?
Yeah, they do not look Middle Eastern at all.
No.
It definitely looks like a white person if, you know, and we did see the video of them taking this guy to be arrested
and there was a screenshot basically of his face when he was passing the camera.
And he did.
He looked white.
Yeah, absolutely.
And no beard.
Because a lot of people are saying they're all bearded men, bearded men, but he had no beard.
Yeah.
I do want to just play you the clip.
Now, by the way, if you were watching this live with us right now, this is a very graphic clip.
The beginning of this clip is when these armed men, it looks like they're coming into the
courtyard or the area of the concert venue where they're not actually in the concert hall at this point.
It looks like the lobby area where there are probably 40 people that are standing outside.
I don't know if they're waiting to go into the concert venue or what they were doing,
but there are what appears to be four armed heavily,
I guess I would say heavily armed men with fully automatic weapons,
full gear, and they come in and start shooting with automatic weapons,
but I at least want to play you the audio of this clip right now.
So here you go.
Here's the audio of this clip.
All right.
So that is the audio.
this is when these guys basically mow down a pretty large group of civilians in this lobby area of this concert venue.
They then shoot out a window section where it looks like, I think it says something city mall maybe or city hall.
I think it says city hall, Kroka City Hall.
So they shoot out the windows and then they exit into this area.
Now I don't know if that is actually where they are about to enter the concert venue at that time.
but nonetheless, I think they did kill a lot of people
just in that short little time frame
that you just heard those shots ringing out.
And these are fully automatic weapons.
Now, for those that don't understand that,
and we're going to bring chat on in just a minute,
weapons and gun control in Russia is pretty strict.
I think essentially the rule says
that you are only allowed to have a weapon
if it has rubber bullets for self-protection,
I think even in certain situations,
but you're definitely not allowed to have
weapons like the United States of America.
And that is a big no-no in Russia.
So the fact that four-arm guys fully decked out, full gear, full military guard, I guess you
can say, with automatic weapons.
Yeah, they look very well trained.
Obviously, they had some type of incinerary devices or explosives to where they went into
this building.
They caused horrific damage.
And not only that, I mean, you have this building now that is on fire.
Russia has canceled many events.
And let me just go through a couple of them right now.
And hopefully chat can hear us right now.
But let me go through some of these right now.
And by the way, so we are getting live updates on our telegram.
We do appreciate our listeners over on Telegram.
In particular, King James, we appreciate you over there, man.
So right now, by the way, for those that are already wondering, what is Keeves saying about this?
What is Ukraine saying about this?
Well, Zelensky has come out and said that they are not.
not responsible.
He said it was not them.
That is number one.
We also had a statement from the mayor of Moscow, and this statement, as long as I can get to it,
the statement says, my sincere condolences to the families of those killed in the attack
and the strength to all loved ones of the victims, terrorists only understand retribution.
No courts or investigations will help if force is not met with force, and deaths are not
met with the total execution of terrorists and repressions against their families.
That is what the world experience shows.
Should it be established that these are terrorists of the Kiev regime?
It is impossible to act otherwise with them and their ideological inspirers.
All of them must be found mercilessly, destroyed as terrorists, including officials of
the state that committed such an atrocity.
So this is something that is quickly potentially going to escalate the world.
in a way that maybe we don't understand yet.
Depending on who is responsible for this.
And we're not coming on here to claim that we know who is responsible with this.
We're going to give you all of what we know so far.
But at the very least, I do want to play you what Chad Howard had to say.
Chad is the TikTok fudge of which we're about to bring on right now in just a minute.
And I'm going to play you what his recent videos said.
And then we'll actually get to Chad.
But before we get to that, guys, make sure you go follow our telegram.
Our telegram is very important because we really break a lot of stuff in our telegram.
Our listeners, you guys will send us information that we need to start covering.
And so we've been really going back and forth about this Russia terror attack over the past couple hours.
And you guys have been so helpful, especially King James and others.
Thank you guys so much.
But yeah, go follow us, Investigator's Conspiracy Podcasts.
Also, make sure you follow our Rumble because I think that we're probably going to go live on Rumble tomorrow night,
which will be Saturday, March the 23rd.
We will probably be covering this situation live on Rumble tomorrow night.
I believe it's going to be somewhere around 6.30 p.m.
So you guys, it'll probably be a two, two and a half hour show.
But make sure you go follow our Rumble account.
And then, like I said, we will be announcing our YouTube.
So before we get into anything,
I want to play you Chad Hauer's latest video that he had posted.
Actually, one of our listeners sent us this video in our television.
in our telegram. So here is what Chad had to say so far on what is going on.
We don't know yet, guys. Let's not accuse anyone. It could be anyone at this point. Here's what we know.
So Linsky's office has said it's not them. It would make sense that it's not the Ukrainian government directly because the blowback from this, the retaliation would be so severe that it doesn't make sense for them to do it.
It could be somebody connected to that side. It could be someone else. I mean, certainly Russia has.
has lots of enemies. We know there were three, possibly four, white guys with beards. It's been reported
that they possibly could be from the Caucasus area or Asia. We don't know that's speculation. Right
now we just need the kind of wait and see what happens. The latest death count that I saw was
40 plus. The building's on fire with over 100 people trapped inside. I'll provide you with more
updates as I find them. I am scouring tons of telegram channels here directly in Russia and in Russian
and providing translations as I can.
Feel free to ask comments.
Feel free to ask questions in the comments.
Thanks.
All right.
That was Chad on what his take on this was.
Now, we're going to go ahead and get over to Chad Hauer right now.
We're going to unmute over on Zoom.
And Chad, how's it going, man?
Can you hear us?
Pretty good.
I have one correction regarding your thing about the gun laws in Russia.
But you were talking about the rubber bullets.
Yeah, yeah.
That's for handguns.
Okay.
You can get actually semi-automatics here.
But you have to be a citizen.
You have to go to a medical doctor.
You have to be sane.
You have to do some basic training and stuff.
But you can actually buy semi-automatics if you're a citizen and pass that in Russia.
Okay.
But they had fully automatic.
So those were not semi-automatics.
Absolutely.
But those can be gotten on the black market.
So a fully automatic is not legal here, but as with any country, black markets, you can buy things.
Well, you know, as far as black markets go, and let's talk about this for a second,
because I think this is going to be a very defining aspect of this terror attack.
Is Russia black market more easily accessible, I guess, is what I would ask,
rather than the United States?
Because, yes, the United States does have a black market,
but the amount of information that say that our ATF and our FBI and CIA have inside of the United States,
I mean, legal gun owners here in the United States are being rated on a regular basis right now.
If you own three or more weapons or you buy a certain amount of weapons in a certain time frame,
is it the same in Russia?
Do they have that much capability to know or to monitor the black market, especially as far as firearms?
I mean, do you have any idea about them?
Yeah, they actually here is probably even better because here when you get a license for a firearm,
you have to have a license for every firearm.
So if you have two firearms, you need one for each firearm.
You don't have a hunting rifle.
You need a license specifically for that.
And the hunting rules are pretty lax.
and we just don't have a lot of gun attacks here.
When we do have them,
it's usually somebody with an air pistol or one of the rubber things
and just wounding somebody.
So something like this, I mean, it's not impossible to get them,
especially because Russia's a big country.
You know, money can get anything you want in any country you want,
but I would say they probably have better ability to control guns here.
We don't really have school shootings
and daily shootings like you guys have over there.
So would you consider these people probably professionals,
obviously not amateurs.
Obviously, these guys look to be, I don't know,
mid to late 20s, early 30s, or at least one of them.
I mean, we've seen one image, potentially of one guy.
I don't know that we've seen the rest of the images.
Have we seen more images?
Have you seen any of that over in wrestling media?
Yeah, there's a lot of videos that I can't post on TikTok or Instagram,
and some of them are extremely troubling to watch.
But no, we have seen faces of several of them.
They've identified the car.
There's been dash camp footage,
least of the car. They're not looking for the car to see if there's more people. Last I heard,
they did detain one of them. They got the fire not quite out, but they have the fire under control
and localized now, but there's still well over 100 people in. The group that was playing,
the orchestra was actually from St. Petersburg. They had left the building before, so the
orchestra is safe. And now it's people that were left over in the audience before another concert,
as I've heard it, or the orchestra didn't go in, but the orchestra is safe from St. Petersburg.
just a lot of, there's a lot of misinformation being spread around.
Yeah.
So right now, the, many people have said that possibly somebody in the Caucasus area is, like people
are saying Chechnya, but Chechnya is, you know, an old thing.
Chechnya is not really fighting with Russia for 20 years now.
So, but it could be, they're just saying based on the looks of the people, they're saying
they look like they're from the Cofcasia area, which means that they just kind of a slightly
different look.
They're a little bit darker skin than, than typical Russians.
And so that's what's leading to people believe that they're from that area.
But there's nobody, no real groups in that area that are really like fighting against Russia right now.
So everybody's kind of like, you know, who is it?
We don't know.
Yeah.
And it's just, you know, we don't know.
People are jumping to conclusions.
Some of the politicals over here are already, you know, blaming Ukraine and so forth.
And I'm just telling everybody, listen, just wait to see what happens because we don't know who it is.
And for Ukraine to do this, in my opinion, it would be suicide.
because the response would be so over the top that I just, I don't see this being in Ukraine's best interest.
And it's also not within their MO so far.
Now, within Ukraine, yeah, there have been atrocities on both sides.
Ukraine's against Russians, Russians, and Ukraine's, that's happened.
But as far as targeting inside of Russia, yeah, they have been lobbying drones over, drones show up even here in St. Petersburg.
But they've been targeting oil refineries, military bases.
We did have one drone crash a couple miles from my house and hit a building.
Nobody died from it, but that drone was not believed to be targeting that building.
It appears to have fallen short of its target.
And so they've, within Russia, Ukraine, to my knowledge, has never targeted any civilian things.
They have targeted infrastructure.
But again, oil things and so forth.
So this doesn't fit within the motives of what I would expect from Ukraine, nor do I think it's in their best interest.
So who could be.
It's really kind of a big mystery right now.
Yeah.
I totally agree with you.
That would be like suicide.
Ukraine came in and did this.
You might as well, you might as well just come and kill me because we're already kind of losing this war and we have nothing to lose.
I just don't see it being Ukraine.
Now, I could see it being somebody that is using Ukraine as a front saying, oh, this is Ukraine.
Look at this white van with the Ukraine license plate or they're flying Ukraine flags and blah, blah, blah, blah.
You know what I'm saying?
And by the way, here is the latest report to, we had had a report from Russian Telegram channels.
they're reporting that a suspicious white minibus,
according to basically going with what Sherry's saying,
with an old-style Ukrainian license plate
was found at the parking lot of the concert hall.
They are spinning the Ukrainian trace version fast.
This post says we all know what that means.
Ukrainian authorities and the White House have stated
that Ukraine and Ukrainians are not involved
in this incident whatsoever.
But nonetheless, you know,
we've heard about false flags before, right?
And we're not saying that it's Russia necessarily,
because I don't think Russia would do that to their own people.
I think one thing we've kind of learned through you
and just through various other people
we've talked about Russia is
seems like Russian people
and the Russian government kind of take care of their own
for a large part.
I mean, except for when you kind of go against certain things
or certain aspects.
But nonetheless, what do you think?
I mean, yes, you guys, Russia, where you live right now
or is in a hot war with Ukraine.
Do you put it past Ukraine to do this, though?
I mean, because think about this,
a second. You have Ukraine, which has been desperately, you know, trying to wrap in the United States and NATO into this war.
They really want the help from NATO, ground soldiers, ground troops. They want, you know, they want as much help as they can get.
Would it help Ukraine if Russia really came down on Ukraine based on a response that Russia did or something like this?
And by the way, there was a report that Russia potentially attacked, I guess, power plants.
or nuclear power plants last night or the night before, I believe.
And there are some people speculating.
No, it wasn't nuclear.
Let me explain that because I was going to get to that in a second.
So there's a city called Belgorod, which is very close to the Ukrainian border.
And the Ukrainians have been attacking things around Belgarod for two years now, usually
oil or military things.
About two weeks ago, some independent Legion fighting for Ukraine brought a few tanks across the border
into Russia a few kilometers in and they did shell parts of people in belgarod they hit a school they're
like 16 people that did die and russia has evacuated like 10,000 children to get them out of that area
so it has been some localized fighting in belgarod but it's basically been put out so what happened
was yesterday and today Russia did respond they sent a whole lot of missiles towards keiv and then today
they did hit a dam and power interest structure knocked out most of the power to car keve and things they did
not hit the nuclear power structure.
This is a different, like, so they did knock out electricity to the second largest city in Ukraine,
and they did have a pretty hard attack, but that was for the thing with Belgorod.
Okay, I got you.
Yeah, because, yeah, what I'm seeing here is Russia hit three power plants of some sort,
what they're saying is last night.
Ukrainian attacks on their cities across the border.
This was in response, I guess, to Ukrainian attacks on cities across the border.
And it seems...
Yeah, and 16 people did die in Belgood Road.
I mean, those were civilians.
But war is hell.
I'm not, you know, I don't like to see death on the other side, but they, they weren't really directly targeting citizens, but sometimes happens.
Hey, I want to ask you, Chad, I'm seeing a lot of this on Twitter as well.
And like you said, we don't want to spread false information.
So I want to ask you if you know anything about Ingushians?
Ingushia.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Some people are just, it's all the Kafkaia era.
There's a whole area down there.
could be Chechins, Dagestan, Ingusharia, could be from one of the former Soviet republics.
Something else want to bring up, though, and I posted about this.
On March 8th, the U.S. and British embassies issued a warning to their own citizens to avoid large crowds because they had intelligence of a possible terrorist attack.
Yeah.
And that was on March 8th.
Yeah.
So it seems like they had some sort of intelligence, something was happening.
Now, even with the relations, as they are right now, I would think that if the Americans or the British had firm intelligence of a terror attack,
that they would probably inform Russia, at least somewhat, if they had some sort of concrete things beyond something.
Yeah.
But then again, you never know.
But I would like to think that they would probably inform them if there was going to be something.
So do you think that could have been false information?
Like everybody's posting about the U.S. Embassy in Russia.
No, that's not false, actually.
Was warning Americans to stay out of public?
No, that's what I said.
No, I posted about that.
I posted that was back on March 8th.
Yeah, so this is the actual post, U.S. Embassy and Consulence.
and Russia says security alert avoid large gatherings over the next 48 hours.
The embassy is monitoring reports that extremists have imminent plans to target large gatherings in Moscow to include concerts and U.S. citizens should be advised to avoid large gatherings over the next 48 hours.
So obviously the United States somehow knew about this.
And so I would assume the United States would also know exactly who is responsible for this, correct?
I mean, would you not think that?
I don't know if they know who is responsible.
Remember, that said 48 hours, although we've still been on alert, because we had elections, of course, you know, 15th, and I was in Moscow last Friday and Saturday. So, I mean, I was being a little more careful than usual. But, you know, we just, we really don't know at this point. Somebody just posted that there's video. Now, the one thing it could be, there is, I don't, I don't think this would bubble up. Right now between, I think it's Armenian, Azerbaijan, there's, I mean, maybe I got the two countries wrong. But there is a bit of a,
a thing going on between two of the former countries down that way.
And Russia was helping one of them.
And then there was a bit of a tiff between them because Russia decided to back out or something.
But I can't imagine, even with what's going on down there, that that would have flared up into this.
So I'm not going to jump to conclusions, although people are saying things until I can verify them.
And again, people are saying it's probably somebody from Kafkaia just because of the way they look.
But that's a big area.
That includes multiple countries as well as multiple Russian republics.
So it's like saying like, it's almost like saying Latin America.
it's a big area.
Well, I want to play this while you're on the line with us as well, Chad.
I want to play this to you, and we'll talk about it on the backside of this.
It's about two minutes, but I will tell you that Mossad is one of the number one things trending right now on X.
And we all know who Mossad is.
Massad is the Israel Intelligence Agency, which is very similar to CIA.
Sherry and I, by the way, have done many episodes on the Israel-Palestine conflict, mainly because Sherry's family is Jewish.
And we've kind of had just various different thoughts on this.
But at the very least, I want to play this, and hopefully you can hear this and hear what this.
This is a representative for the IDF that says Russia will pay the price because it is supporting the enemies of Israel.
I want to play this briefly for you.
Here you go.
I understand you're on the Russian payroll, and I understand this is the Russian propaganda,
but you have to be very careful because let me tell you, we're going to finish this war.
We're going to win because we're stronger.
After this, Russia will pay the price.
Believe me, Russia will pay the price.
Russia is supporting the enemies of Israel.
Russia is supporting Nazi people who want to commit genocide on us, and Russia will pay the price.
Russia also.
Now let me listen to me very carefully.
We are going to finish with these Nazis.
We're going to win this war.
It's going to take the time.
It's going to take, but we're going to win this war.
Afterwards, we're not forgetting what you are doing.
We're not forgetting.
We will come.
We will make sure that Ukraine wins.
We will make sure that you pay the price for what you have done.
You as Russia.
And you as all the enemies of Israel.
And you as all the people who are now making everything they can
to support genocide of the Jews in Israel.
Well, we are not forgetting, we are not forgetting.
Remember exactly what I'm saying now.
You will pay the price.
Amir, I think it's safe to say that this is a very passionate conflict that is happening here.
Well, people have been massacred.
My people has been slaughtered by your proxies and you will pay the price.
Is it clear?
Believe me, you will regret this state.
You will regret it very, very, very sternly.
I don't think it is clear, Mr. Weissman.
I think, and I would suggest in the future, it should be clear, as being a politician, it should be clear, it should be clear, it should be clear, it should be clear to you, because you have to understand that actions have got consequences.
And when people support murder of Jews, people pay the price. This is true in Gaza, this is true everywhere else.
The time that Jews actually have no power to defend herself is done, is gone. And people will now have to bear the consequences of them supporting,
genocidal Nazis were out to exterminate Jews.
What we have seen 10 days ago is not something normal.
We have seen these Nazis coming out, massacring people in the streets, babies, beheading them,
all the people, women, raping, all these things you've seen that with your eyes.
How can you even dare to support the murderers?
I tell you, frankly, the public...
So there we go.
So let me just say this before we even get into this.
So this is, by the way, Amir Weitman or Whitman.
He is a financial guy, but a libertarian politician in Israel.
I will just say this.
I hope that Israel has no connection to this.
But I do want to read this before we get to you, Chad.
The Houthis and Hamas have expressed condolences to Russia in connection with the terrorist attack.
They have come out in solidarity with Russia against this.
but Russia is against Nazis.
This is their whole claim of why they're fighting Ukraine.
Yeah, which is strange.
But also we have to understand the play with Russia and the United States,
and they also understand how close to United States and Israel is.
But what do you think about this as far as it seems like Russia has in some way, shape, or form?
They have supported or, I guess, voiced some support for groups or that, you know,
people that were involved in the situation, the war against Israel.
What are your thoughts on the possibility that this could be Mossad or Israel?
And how big would that be?
Would that be bigger than Ukraine being involved?
Or what is your thoughts on that, Chad?
I think if it is, it's some rogue agent or something,
because Israel and Russia usually get along pretty well,
especially post-Soviet times.
So they're usually pretty close despite, yeah,
I know some of the accusations, especially, you know, Palestine and things.
But I just, I can't see Israel doing this because you don't want to, you don't want to piss off a power like Russia, especially if you're a government.
So normally when these things happen, it's normally independent terror groups one way or the other.
And this gentleman speaking, got to remember Israel is just like the U.S. and just like Russia, we have our wacko politicians too.
You got to remember a lot of these people that end up on the news.
So like a lot of these Russian politicians that America news like to play, they're like the Alex Jones, okay?
And Russian news plays, they play Alex Jones over here too.
And they're like, look at what the Americans are saying.
But they're showing you Alex Jones or the my pillow guy.
Both whenever a country likes to show you how crazy another country is, they pick the weirdest, craziest wackos there are.
And this dude can be the same way because Israel definitely has some far out politicians as well.
Yeah.
And I've seen all over X too that the Westerners are all cheering because Russia got attacked today.
That is not true.
There's nobody in the streets in America cheering about this terrorist attack.
There may be some, but it is definitely not us.
I mean, this is very brutal.
And by the way, we do want to say these are innocent lives.
Yes.
And anybody that attacks a concert hall like that, I mean, that is just low down.
I think we're getting into a time.
I mean, Chadder, are you seeing things like your perspective on things?
I know your life has been through turmoil and ups and downs.
And you fought the governments.
You fought for your life, really, in various ways.
You've fought legally.
You've fought health-wise.
you've kind of had to make various moves to survive both, like I said, free to be a free man,
and also to live medically.
What is your perspective on this world now as far as just the way you see it?
I mean, do you see this world really just turn in more evil than good?
And what is your thoughts on it?
Well, you know, it's always the kind of ebb and flow.
We had a really good peacetime, despite some conflicts, you know, the 70s, post-Fietnam, 80s,
90s was pretty peaceful. And then when 9-11 kind of happened, things kind of broke loose. And I'm not saying
it's all tied to 9-11, but once 9-11 happened, the U.S. went into Iraq, Afghanistan, that destabilized
a lot of things. And then a lot of other things happened. And yeah, we're definitely in a time
of instability. I think there's always evil out there. It's just sometimes we're better at
controlling it than other times. But it's always there. I don't think you have more evil or less
evil. I think just sometimes it's like a fire. It burns hot sometimes and sometimes simmer.
And sadly right now, yeah, the world's in a lot of turmoil.
And it is very concerning.
I don't think we're going to end up in World War III or anything like that.
But there's a lot of concern and stuff going on in a lot of places.
And it's just, it's very concerning.
Look, what's going on in Europe.
I mean, there's protests in Europe because of political instability.
And because of the, there's so many refugees from both Ukraine and Syria and Africa.
And I don't think most Americans have any idea the size of the refugee problem in Europe over the last 10 years.
and it's only gotten worse with Ukrainian refugees.
By the way, I do want to say this.
This is actually maybe starting to be official here.
Sherry just showed it to me five minutes ago,
which I was like, there's no way.
But what I will say is breaking right now,
according to many reputable independent journalists,
that ISIS is potentially claiming responsibility
for this terror attack in Moscow.
Now, I don't know if this is 100% factual
if ISIS is actually claimed responsibility,
but what I can say is there have been five or six journalists that I trust very heavily with a lot of stuff.
They do not release stuff unless they see a direct source.
Apparently there is a video also.
There's a video of them saying that they're responsible.
Maybe.
Yeah.
So this says President Vladimir Putin has not yet made a public statement about the attack on Crocus City Hall.
The U.S. seemed to have knowledge that attack was coming, considering on March 7th, that the U.S.
warned the extremists could target concerts.
the concert hall was attacked
and you know
sorry the concert hall that was attacked
happened to be where Trump held the Miss Universe
pageant in 2013 which is also
very interesting but there are
many reports that ISIS may be claiming
responsibility I don't know if that's true
why would ISIS attack Russia?
Well because
remember Russia has been in Syria
and Russia has
been taking out ISIS targets
as well. Russia has been
supporting the Assad regime in Syria.
for many, many years.
And I did read recently that there was a pretty hefty attack on some sort of ISIS place
a couple weeks ago.
And this would certainly fit the MO of ISIS.
But the difference is these guys weren't, at least visually, did not appear to be
of Middle Eastern or other descent.
But certainly that's one of the better candidates right now.
We're just going to have to wait and see.
But that would be one of the better guesses right now.
Well, we do know, by the way, I don't know if we remember.
how much involvement that the United States CIA and other federal agencies have had with ISIS in the past.
They've actually, most people can tell you that they created ISIS. They created what is now known as ISIS and even potentially the Taliban.
They even heavily funded it. We were actually just talking on a podcast the other day how the United States government funded a lot of the cartels in Mexico that now have these, what is essentially here in the United States, called Bearcats or heavily armored.
vehicles, which is what SWAT teams use in the United States and so on.
Now there's videos of these cartels that are coming out with these videos showing they're
heavily armored, heavily equipped, multi-million dollar vehicles.
Obviously, these vehicles are reinforced.
They are usually sent through a, there's only, actually, by the way, I think there's
only like three or four companies that really do these vehicles well.
but we're not saying that our government's involved in any way, shape, or form.
We're just saying that there has been connections with terrorist organizations and so on and so forth
and connections with the United States government as well in the past.
I just find it weird.
Yeah, in fact, you can read The Legacy of Ashes, which is a book that came out about 10 years ago,
and it talks about, and this is based, it's not a conspiracy-based book.
It's based on declassified documents about things that happened in the 50s, 60s and 70s
that were in the middle, in Latin America.
and the CIA was caught funding drug cartels in Jamaica as well and using them for informants.
Some of them turned on to the CIA later or the CIA turned on them.
So, yeah, the CIA has done a lot of dirty things in Latin America, Mexico and the Caribbean.
Well, think about this.
You know, the CIA, one of their main goals is to infiltrate and infiltrate certain scenarios to where the United States can look away.
This is not us.
We have no involvement in this.
but the CIA's main goal in a lot of ways is to infiltrate groups or organizations or whatever the case may be to sometimes do their dirty work for them.
I mean, so I don't know.
And like you said, I guess Russia has been pretty heavy on ISIS, you know, according to what you were just talking about.
But we also can't put it past the United States and Russia's relationship right now is at a very volatile point.
It seems like the United States wants to escalate more than try to talk down.
From what we've heard, there has been multiple peace talks between Russia and Ukraine
that the United States is either backed out of, Boris Johnson, someone.
They've tried to disrupt and kill these peace talks.
And I can't imagine why.
I mean, but we did just pass another $1.2 trillion bill today in the House that's going now to the Senate,
has to be voted on before midnight tonight, which will also.
then send even more money to Ukraine, which is just asinine to me.
I mean, it's crazy.
It's literally crazy that there's this much money going to countries around the world to secure their borders
when the United States ourselves cannot secure our own border.
And just so you guys know, this is here's where the money went.
So they passed a $1.2 trillion spending bill and included $27 billion increase for the Pentagon,
880 million for Middle Eastern countries, borders, but not our own, and 300 million more for Ukraine.
And so this is what we're doing.
We're spending a ton of money, but we're not doing anything for our own country.
Very scary times to be alive.
Are you scared living in Russia now?
Or you still think St. Petersburg's pretty good?
I think it's safer here because the security apparatus is far more serious here in Russia.
I mean, despite this happening.
I mean, if you look at the past number of years, you go back 30 years.
How many terror attacks has Russia had versus the number of ones in the U.S.
And the ones in the U.S. outnumber this.
I mean, this sucks.
But, you know, the U.S. has had them.
And as far as, I forgot, was there to say something which we're saying before?
Oh, as far as the CIA, I don't think it's anything to do that because this, first of all,
it doesn't really fit the MO of the way the CIA operates.
The CIA likes to overthrow governments.
They get involved in coups and things like that.
Yeah.
But to do things like this, it's just typically not in their MO because not only
is it not how they operate, but the blowback would just be so...
I mean, whoever is found to be responsible for this, I mean, if anybody thinks Russia or Putin's
going to mess around with this, they're not.
I mean, they're not, they're going to take all the gloves off to go after these people.
As they should.
And it would just, you know, it would be, the blowback would be severe.
And I just, so I don't think it's, I don't think it's any government, I don't think it's
any government entity at all.
Because this would be, if it was found to be any government, this would start a new war.
So I think it's some independent group, quite possibly ISIS, but that's just our best guess right now.
But I don't believe this is any official government.
And if it is, it's some sort of rogue element of some government.
But even then, I don't think so because a rogue element would know what the blowback would cause and they're not going to want to bring it on their own government.
Yeah.
I have two questions for you.
Living in Russia, I was reading too, that these people that came in and shot up the whole concert hall, well, in Russia, they have cameras.
cameras everywhere all over the buildings, all over the streets.
So that would be a pretty stupid thing to go in and shoot up a concert hall where it's going to be,
you know, they're going to have all this camera, you know, footage.
Well, facial recognition.
I'm sure they got all that in Russia.
So that is true that there is cameras all over the place?
There's cameras everywhere.
I don't know how much facial recognition.
They're not like China.
But there are cameras.
Yeah, I mean, Moscow and St. Petersburg.
And we have like 12 cities with more than a million people.
people think it's only Moscow and St. Peterburg, Russia is just, it's extremely safe. It's not just because
of the cameras. It's because how the policing is. I mean, somebody stole a cell phone the
day and two police officers who were transit cops. They weren't even normal cops. They chased
them down and got the cell phone back. They take even petty crime fairly seriously here. It's
not like in the U.S. where you can go in and walk out with 20 telephones and nobody's going to do
anything. The police do take stuff fairly seriously here. Well, Chad, let me ask you, if you have,
if you had automatic weapons, you yourself, you and three of your other buddies,
and you guys are coming into Russia, right?
Because you've had to come into Russia,
even though you were like, you know,
wanted by FBI.
But besides that,
if you had to come into,
if you had to come into Russia, though,
what do you,
like,
how hard is it to have fully automatic weapons
for four people and all the guard they have?
Like,
is that easy in Russia to just kind of do
and get into Moscow?
Or,
how do you say about it,
Moscow?
How do you all say it over there?
Well, in English, you can say either way.
In Russian, it's Moskva.
So it's not even Moss.
It's pronounced completely different in Russian.
So in English, Moscow or Moscow is fine.
I usually say Moscow.
It's definitely possible because, remember, the border of Russia is so monstrously big that, you know, there are, especially in the southern areas.
You know, there's so many rural areas.
There's marine crossings.
We can come across rivers, lakes, seas.
So if you've got the money, it's not difficult.
For the average person, yeah, it'd be a little more difficult.
But if you've got money, you can certainly do it.
And once you're in Russia, you just put it in a car and don't get stopped.
Yeah.
So you hide it out.
But this was obviously well planned.
These were not just some random people.
This was planned.
And the fact that the U.S. Embassy and British Embassy had heard chatter of some sort, this was, you know, this was well planned.
And the security services here in Russia are serious business.
They're not.
You know, I know people like to make jokes of them sometimes, but the security bureaus in Russia
are serious people.
Yeah.
And, you know, they've got some bright people working there, and they're very serious about security.
And I'm wondering if it's not the guys that I said before and it's not ISIS.
Could it possibly be some missionaries, you know, or foreign?
What do you mean?
Well, maybe I'm not saying out.
Well, they're coming over there talking about Jesus?
Not those.
What are they called?
You know what I'm talking about?
Mercenaries.
Mercenaries.
Darn it.
The private army groups.
I'm sorry.
The private army groups.
Yeah.
Could it be something?
something like that.
And by the way,
whatever happened
to Wagner Group, Chad?
These guys were obviously
on a suicide
mission.
When you hire mercenaries,
mercenaries aren't like,
hey, give me some money
and I'll go die.
People that go in and do
these things know that they're
going to die,
so they have to have
some really strong motivation.
Whether it be religious
or political,
these have to be
ideological people.
And so, you know,
that's why I'm saying,
it's got to be ISIS
or somebody else,
but who's pissed off
at Russia right now?
to do something this bad.
Well, Ukraine is, but it doesn't make sense for them to do it.
And so it really is ISIS or somebody else, but the Chechnas aren't pissed off.
They're with Russia now.
I mean, they were in the 90s, but now that's, you know, pretty much water under the bridge.
And I just can't think of anybody besides ISIS or some unknown group that would be this pissed off to do something like this.
Let me ask you.
And even in Russia, we have, you know, we have a large Muslim population in Russia.
So it's not like Muslims in general hate Russia.
We have a very large Muslim population here.
In fact, several of the republics, like Dagestan and a couple others, are majority Muslim.
We have a lot of Muslims here in St. Petersburg.
Yeah.
Despite the other problems we can say about Russia, Russia has general freedom of religion.
I mean, unless you're an extremist or something, we have Muslims, we have Christians, we have Hindus, we have Buddhists, and it's not a problem here.
Isn't Dagestan, that's a pretty big place, right, for Muslims?
Is it Dagestan?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, Dagestan is one of the majority Muslim republics of Russia.
That's down south.
Let me ask you, though.
But again, Dagestan's, you know, Dagestan's not pissed off at Russia.
There's no, I can't.
I mean, yeah, there are some small tensions, but there's nothing really going on in
Dagestan at this point that somebody would want to do this.
And even somebody, you know, there are some republics that are more upset about the
Ukrainian conflict than others.
But even then it doesn't make sense because the blowback for somebody from inside Russia to do
this, again, the blowback would be severe.
So I'm thinking this has got to be somebody external to Russia.
and somebody not a government.
And ISIS is the only person, the only group I can think of it all off the top of my head
that's really simmering or would want to do something like this.
But then again, they didn't appear to be from the Middle East.
Last question I have for you.
Whatever happened to Wagner Group, right?
We know Pergosen was, I guess, allegedly killed on that flight.
There were many people that speculated that obviously Putin or Russia had responsibility for that
because of the way that Pergozen, which was over the Wagner group,
which was the contracted private military group that Vladimir Putin had hired to go over into Ukraine,
which, by the way, we had had a guy named J.D.
He's actually on the front line special forces Ukraine.
We've had him on this podcast several times when he's in kind of the danger zone.
And he had talked specifically about fighting Wagner Group and those guys.
and kind of the whole scenario.
And he said they meant business.
Yeah.
But what do you think, though,
whatever happened with Wagner Group,
whatever happened with those guys,
especially after Bergozen died,
we didn't really hear much about Wagner Group anymore.
Was there anyone else that kind of took arms?
Do you hear anything about that over there?
No, well,
what happened is most of the people that were part of that group
got rolled into the army.
And they didn't roll them in like one big unit.
They would distribute them around
because they didn't want them becoming a group
on their own. So they would take a few guys and put them in one unit, a few guys and put them in a different
unit. And they offered them, you know, contracts with the army, basically. And so they got
rolled into the army. There's a few smaller groups of some of the trusted ones that are still
kind of private higher groups, but they still fell under the command of the army now.
I got you. So they were missionaries too.
Martin, oh God. Mercenaries. Yeah, basically Wagner was a large mercenary group. And at least
the ones in Ukraine area were rolled under the command of the army. Now Wagner does have some
operations in Africa and things like that.
No, those ones may not have been rolled in,
but anybody who was in this era or related to Ukraine was,
most of them were rolled directly into the command of the army.
Okay, I got you.
Well, Chad, man, look, thank you so much for coming on for sure.
What time is it there, by the way, probably really late?
Yeah, 1249, but I'm up because this is such big news and it's very personal.
I mean, a friend of a friend was in the theater.
It's not somebody we know directly, but still it's kind of, you know,
two degrees of separation and it's just, you know, I'm upset when anybody dies on either side of this.
Well, I don't believe this is related to Ukraine.
Yeah.
But I'm upset about the conflict when anybody dies on other side, especially when it's civilians.
So it's not like I only care when it happens to the Russians, but it certainly is a lot more personal.
It certainly is a lot more personal when it's when it hits us close to home.
Yes.
But I care just as much when it happens to, you know, other places too, but it's more personal.
It is.
And when it happens to people that are going out to have a good time, you know, going to a concert,
like Israel or now Moscow, you know, that's just not right.
Why attack innocent people like that?
Yeah, it's nuts.
Well, I think it's just, you know, I think really we are just seeing a lot of evil in the world.
I mean, I think that's what's, you know, really going on.
But I don't know.
It's going to be very interesting how this unfolds because the reality of this is,
is that although we're talking about probably not Ukraine, probably not this,
I think at the very least, we're probably going to see what Russia releases as official statements,
especially considering at least they have captured one.
I don't know if they've captured more yet.
So I would assume they will definitely get to the bottom of whoever this person is.
How will Russia play this, right, regardless of whatever happens, but how will Russia play this?
Obviously, if you're in a wartime scenario with Ukraine, you have the United States,
which is heavily funding and proxy war in Ukraine.
Recently you had France's President Macron say that they're going to potentially send 11,000 troops.
It was 11,000 or 11,000?
I can't even remember.
But to fight on behalf of Ukraine, it seems like there are certain NATO countries that just are eagerly wanting to get involved in this Russia-Ukraine conflict.
Let me clarify that a little bit.
Macron definitely said that, but he's not sending them to fight in the front line.
They were talking about sending them to because the Belarusian border, there's no troops coming over the Belarusian border, but they are worried about in the future that the army from Belarus or Russia may come for the northern border.
So the idea was to send the French troops to help guard the border as a defensive measure to free up Ukrainian troops to go down to the hot zones.
So yes, they'd be setting them there.
I'm not commenting on whether it's good about it.
I'm just clarifying the actual situation.
Yeah, yeah.
I just got a message here on one of the telegram groups.
Moscow just posted a list of the so far deceased people.
I'm trying to get an estimate.
But it's definitely more than 40.
Now there's 20 here.
It looks like could be at least 50 people now.
Possibly six.
It could be 60 or maybe even 80 without me sitting and counting.
I'm here.
Let me ask you, Chad.
That concert hall in particular, is that a big staple in Moscow?
I mean, because it looked huge.
It is huge, but Moscow's 20 million people.
So we have lots of places like that in Moscow.
And it's just, it is huge, but I don't think most people realize how big Moscow is.
I think it's, if I remember, it's the biggest metropolis on all of Europe.
It's not quite Tokyo size, but it is, it's just, you cannot understand the size of Moscow.
I mean, the New York, the New York area, not just New York City, but the New York area is like 10 million people.
So imagine a city twice as big as New York City.
Wow. Yeah, that's nuts.
Do you guys actually think the person that they apprehended is the person?
Because when I was looking at the videos of them shooting, they look like they're in tactical gear.
And then the dude that they arrested looked like he was in normal civilian clothes, which you could have changed, you know, really fast to blend in with the crowd.
But do you think positively they probably arrested the right person?
And by the way, Chad, I think so.
The security service is here again.
And I know a lot of people like joke around, but they don't play around.
Security service here are pretty good.
And I'm confident that if they got the guy that he's legit.
Yeah.
You know, they are, again, I know especially on the American side,
I'm not saying you guys in particular, but a lot of Americans like to joke in other countries,
like, oh, only our guys are really good.
But the security service here, they're serious.
They're serious business.
Yeah.
Yeah, and they're probably more serious in some ways, actually, than our own.
I mean, that's just, you know, at least that's what the United States government wants you to believe,
is that they are the worst country in the world as far as coming down on their citizens and knowing every little thing you do.
And that may be the case.
But, you know, here's the thing.
I don't understand, though, because, you know, you have this one guy.
If he's in custody, they're going to, I would assume, know who this person is.
Also at the same time, if it's ISIS, for example, ISIS typically does things, especially considering their religious beliefs in the name of Allah.
And they will go out with a bang.
meaning they will kill themselves, they will destroy themselves,
and they feel like that is, in a lot of cases, a part of their mission, right?
And so that's why I don't necessarily see this as an ISIS attack.
It does not fit the environment.
Just the best guess.
I want to give you an update, though.
I'm monitoring a Russian telegram channel here.
This list of deceased, based on what I'm seeing, there's around 30 names per page.
There's four and a half pages.
So that would mean there's about $1.5.
40 dead. Wow. Gosh, that's way more than 40. Yeah. Now, I'm reading this on X2. This girl says that she goes to college there and they have canceled all classes because they're predicting future attacks. Have you heard anything about that, Chad?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even in St. Petersburg, the universities have canceled the classes. And I've seen some messages. I don't know if, well, I know the universities are officially closed. And a lot of things are going to be closed tomorrow and Sunday. I've seen.
seen a message besides that one that I haven't confirmed yet that people are being advised to stay home for the next three days, but that particular message I've not confirmed.
But universities, sorry, universities are definitely close for the weekend. Absolutely.
Yeah. I'm seeing this post to, I don't know what this means exactly, but Israel will enter Rafa if even if the entire world turns on us, including the United States.
This is a post from the Times of Israel.
Yeah, I saw that too.
Yeah, Netanyahu aides head to Washington to discuss.
potential tactics in southern Gaza.
So I guess Rafa is definitely off limits in a lot of ways.
This is getting just a very sticky situation.
Although, like I said, not saying that Israel or Mossad or any of those people have any
involvement in this whatsoever.
But also, we just don't know.
I mean, we don't know.
We have no idea who could be responsible.
Actually, sorry, this is over 150.
I just counted one of the sheets.
It's over 150 listed on these sheets.
Wow.
That's a lot of people.
That is awful.
I mean, it's just awful.
People were going to enjoy themselves.
And they didn't know that was going to be the last minute.
And this is just what they found.
There could be more because there was a big fire.
A lot of people were trapped.
But so far, there's about 150 listed on these sheets.
Yeah, I saw in the concert hall where, you know, they started a fire and they were shooting at the same time.
And these people were trapped and couldn't even get out of there.
And then there were several people that went to the roof of the concert hall.
And they were lifting people from helicopters to the hospitals.
New photos just came in as well of the car, the guy driving the car and a guy next to him.
Yeah, I mean, they definitely, again, it's hard to say specifically by looking, but these do not look like.
No.
It does not look like anybody from Middle East.
They don't look like Arabs or anybody from Middle East whatsoever.
Was it a white?
I can't remember the name of the car that.
Yes, a white car.
There have been several pictures of the car, but now they're getting traffic because people are sending in dash cam videos.
And there's people lining up to give blood already.
But this is a new traffic cam video from a front view of the camera.
It clearly shows one of the person's faces, and the other person can't quite make out.
But I've seen some other faces, too, and some other ones.
Yeah, I mean, they don't look like your typical ISIS.
I mean, ISIS is in Africa and lots of places, but they certainly don't look anywhere from the Middle East at all.
Yeah, we got a poll here on, on X that has been voted on by a lot of people.
They say, who do you think is behind the terror attack in Moscow?
They have ISIS listed, Israel, CIA, Ukraine.
right now CIA is ahead with 50% of the votes.
ISIS is second with 27%.
You got Israel with 13% and Ukraine at 11%.
So literally, out of those four options, people think Ukraine is the least likely to have...
What was the top one?
The top one was CIA.
But what about that guys I mentioned?
Also another message just coming in here.
Apparently in the list, a lot of the victims.
were actually Muslims.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
I mean, not all of them, but a significant portion of them were Muslims themselves.
So, yeah, I mean, this kind of gets...
In an initial video that we're seeing when they first came into the concert hall, the four guys were shooting.
And it did look like there was a guy that was a Muslim and his life was spared for some reason.
No, but they're saying a lot of the victims were Muslim.
Yeah, but they are Muslim.
So that doesn't make sense.
In one of the first videos that came out when they were going in.
they're shooting up all those people by the window
and they left several people
unharmed and when we
zoomed in they almost looked like they were
Muslims. By the way, I do want to officially
announce this, I guess, on this episode.
It looks like
ISIS has officially
claimed officially. Yeah,
they have officially claimed responsibility
for the Moscow concert hall
attack. What does that mean?
I don't know.
Are they really responsible?
Why would they be? But I guess, you know,
to your point earlier.
I mean, you know.
Russia has been hard on ISIS.
The last two years, remember, they're in Syria
because whatever you think of
what's going on in Syria with Assad and so forth.
I mean, Assad's not the friendliest dude.
But he and ISIS
don't get along. And Russia has been beaten
a living snod out of ISIS in Syria
for years.
And there was a big attack on an ISIS,
some sort of ISIS compound or stronghold
a few weeks ago.
Yeah, I saw that. I did see that same
image. I think, let me see. I'm looking at this image.
X is saying 145 victims.
145 victims, yeah.
But your thing is up to 170.
Well, I'm saying 150.
What I did is like there's four and a half sheets and I just counted one of them while we were talking.
So from my estimate, it's at least 150 based on the just, you know, a rough count on the sheets.
Yeah.
And they have the photo of the two guys in the car.
It seems like it's a small kind of compact white car.
And one of the dudes has a baseball hat on.
And the other one looks like he has glasses.
but they do not look Muslim.
They don't look Muslim, but who knows?
I mean...
Well, you can't tell who's Muslim.
Yeah.
I mean, Muslim can be anybody.
That is true.
But they don't look Middle Eastern at the point.
Yeah, you're right.
Muslims, you know, it's like you can't say they don't look Christian.
They don't look Hindu.
But yeah, they don't look like they're Middle Eastern.
That's for sure.
Well, I wonder what will be...
And look, so here I think is the reason why if you see polls that are going up right now on X,
that you have people that are asking the question, who's your...
responsible and you usually right now you have what was it ISIS and CIA number one and number two
and there's been a lot of connections with CIA and ISIS that's what we talked about earlier but
we won't know the big question here is at the very least I guess is man there and look there's a lot
of scenarios and you can go into many billions of conspiracies on this but at the very least I want
to see how Russia responds to this I want to see what their official
designation is like will they come out and actually blame someone, especially consider an ISIS
has come out in responsibility, at least from what we understand. But, you know, when you say ISIS
comes out in saying that they are the ones responsible, you know, how do we know for sure that
that that video of whoever is actually saying they are ISIS that's claiming responsibility
is actually ISIS? And how do we not know that videos can be manipulated or not even, not
I'm not even saying that what I'm saying is not even saying that we like did an AI video.
I'm just saying that how do we not know that we have or someone has people that can claim responsibility on behalf of ISIS?
I don't know.
It's just the world we live in.
Hold on.
Hold on.
I have something regarding that I'm translating.
I'm reading it in Russia.
Hold on a second.
Okay.
Statements on behalf of allegedly ISIS about responsible of terrorist attack in Moscow region are fake reports according to VGR.
journalist Andrei Medvedev.
Besides the fact, there's no information on official TG channels of the Islamic State.
There are no statements on the resources of the Afghan cells.
Moreover, at the moment, the Islamic State is such an uninfluential structure, even in the Middle East,
that even any official statements should not be taken 100% seriousness.
That's a translation from Russian.
Well, and that makes sense because they don't look Middle Eastern.
Yeah, and they're saying that this could be fake.
But it's actually, but then you've got to ask yourself, why is it, why is it starting to come out of
official that it's ISIS. Are they trying to cover for someone else?
Well, apparently there was a statement put out on one of the ISIS channels, but ISIS,
you remember, ISIS isn't like, you know, they don't have, it's not like the Catholic
church, they don't have a pope. Yeah. Okay, it's a distributed type group. And so it could be
an ISIS cell that did it independently, but right now there's, it appears that, at least
it's believed that that statement that came out is not accurate. That's what's being said on the
reliable Russian telegram channels right now.
That came in in Russian and I translated it.
That makes sense.
I mean, because, you know, the reality is I just, that just doesn't make sense to me.
Even if Russia's hitting ISIS hard, so is the United States done for so long.
And I just don't, personally, I don't think that Russia is more laxed as far as their security
goes than the United States.
And I don't know if anybody recognizes that our border is wide open in the United States
right now.
If ISIS wants to carry out any of those attacks on the United States and,
And by the way, I would think that ISIS hates the United States more than Russia.
The ISIS narrative just doesn't make more sense to me, I guess.
I don't know.
Not the Syria, ISIS, though.
You got to remember the Russians have been really beaten the snod out of ISIS in Syria.
So, and again, ISIS is a distributed group.
There's ISIS and Africa that are all over.
But the Syrian ISIS, I mean, Russia has been really beating them up.
Hmm. That's interesting.
Yeah, this is a very interesting story in chat.
I mean, we definitely appreciate you coming on short notice.
I just want to ask you one more question, too.
And I asked you about these guys before, the Ingushetians.
Is that how you say it?
Ingushetia.
Tell me again, there is conflict with these people, right?
Well, not really.
Ingushetia, if I remember as one of the Russian republics, it's not a separate country.
And so there's not really, I mean, there's, I wouldn't call it conflict.
There might be a little bit of unrest, but nothing serious.
So if it did come from, yeah, it's a Russian republic.
Like, if it came out of Ungushetia, it would have to be like a, you know, a small group from there and not like, you know, a widespread movement or anything.
Because it's basically, Russia is made up of a couple dozen republics.
You can think of like the U.S. has 50 states.
So Russia has, I forget, I think it's 26, and I'm sorry, I don't remember the exact number, but I think it's 26 republic.
So it's like 26 kind of states within Russia.
And so Ingushetia is one of them.
So they're part of Russia.
Yeah, it's part of Russia.
Okay.
And so there would be security services down there and whatever little bit of unrest is there, there's no serious unrest with, you know, that I would expect this come out of there officially.
So unless it's just, you know, a few like a small cell of people that are just happened to be from Ingush Etia, but not English etia. No, it's definitely not.
I got you. That would be like, you know, that'd be like Florida, you know, doing something.
I mean, maybe somebody from Florida did something, but not Florida or Florida people in general.
The Florida man. Have you not heard of Florida man? You can't put anything past Florida.
But my point is it's not like the people of Ingushetia would be behind this or the government
because it's basically one of the states of Russia. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah,
I mean, well, we hope that this is not going to somehow come back to a nation, right? Because I think
if it comes back to a nation, a NATO ally or Ukraine, I think it means very, very different things
than if it is ISIS.
I mean, there is one thing right here
real quick just, well, I just noticed
March 3rd, 2024,
six militants were killed in a special operation
in Ingushetia.
So the Russian,
some Russian, I'll look at what it is, hold on,
bring it up.
But so there, I mean, there are some people in Ingushetia,
but it's definitely not Ingushetia at the whole.
I don't want to, you know,
Ingushetians be pissed off at me
because certainly they're Russian,
they're part of the Russian Republic,
the Russian Federation, just like everybody else.
But, you know, just like in the U.S.,
you have, you know, we had the Michigan militia who blew up the Oklahoma City building.
It's not Michigan.
There were people within it.
But this one says Russian security forces killed six alleged militants in a special operation
in Russia's North Caucasus Republic of Ingushetia, tasks reported on Sunday.
Authorities introduced counterterrorism emergency powers in the town of Kedabulok after alleged
militants had opened fire on law enforcement forces in a residential building.
So I don't think it's connected to that, but, you know,
know. Wow. Yeah, I mean, I guess this is the official narrative right now on social media that is ISIS.
But it doesn't sound like it according to Telegram in Russia. I know. It's crazy. It's, I mean, I'm talking about Mario in the fall has posted this. Rawls alerts.
Colin Rugg. Well, you guys heard from us first. The telegram says it's not them.
Yeah. I mean, there's there's a lot of the mainstream independent journalists right now.
saying that this is officially
the thing, I guess, the narrative
is ISIS. But like
I said, I kind of don't
buy that. I don't know.
It just doesn't make sense to me.
Well, if I had to take my bet,
I mean, it could be, and again,
could be, you know, there are, I mean, there is some,
I don't want to say that, like, there's no
unrest in any of the republics, and it's not to do with
a conflict right now. It's just, Russia's a big
country. It's very diverse. And
it's stable, but there are split-true.
Just like in the U.S., there are extremist groups.
You have the,
the Ku Klux Klan. You have the Michigan militia. You have your own splinter groups in the United
States. And Russia has them too. So it could be somebody from Ingushetti. I definitely, I'm seeing
in the news, there were some small, but there's no like war with Ingushetti or anything like
that. I mean, there's nothing monstrous big down there. But I would kind of put my money on ISIS
if I had to take a guess, but apparently it's not, that's fake and not official. But if I had
to guess, if I had to put it on, I put my money on ISIS at this point, but maybe somehow related to an
sell in Ingushetti or something, but not Ingusheti itself and not as a whole.
Ingushety is, I mean, it's the different republics all have different cultures here.
It's Russia's far more diverse than people believe it is.
I mean, it's Bratia, is Ingushetti, Dagestan, and they're all different cultures.
So Ingushetti is made up of like 350 different clans.
Yeah.
And, you know, none of the, it's not like they're at war with Russia itself, but certainly some
people down there could, you know, be doing something.
And Mises could be in there as well.
I got to say I there's going to be a little part of me actually at the end of all this and when we find out what actually happened if we ever actually find out what actually happened there's going to be a little part of me that will be surprised if Ukraine doesn't have something to do with this just just based on just based on like the most realistic gut filling type obvious scenario now maybe because it's so obvious I think maybe that's why so many people are
saying there's no way because that's just a
death sentence. That's, but I mean, but why
is it not already a death sentence, right? I mean, why
I guess what I would say about Ingoshetia is Ingoshetiya is one of the
Muslim republics, okay? So Ingoshetia, Dagestan, we have
several Muslim republics here. So if it was somebody from
Ingushetia, it would not be Ingushetians as a whole. Yeah.
It would be some Muslim, it would not be all the Muslims, it would be some
Muslim extremist group just like a lot of other Muslim countries have.
There are Muslim extremist groups in a lot of places. So if it came
out of Ingushchetti it would have to be some small Muslim extremist group and certainly not
you know, Ingusheti itself or the people as a whole. I want to be very clear on that.
But you just don't think, uh, it's Ukraine. I'll, I'm just curious. I don't think so because
the blowback would be so severe. It would be it'd be so detrimental to Ukraine. Ukraine's already
having enough troubles without just, I mean, that would unite the entire because right now in
Russia, there are a lot of mixed opinions on the conflict, okay?
But one thing that's pretty universal is people do want this to come to an end.
Now, what an end means can have a lot of meanings, but people do want peace to occur.
Yeah.
Okay?
They don't want to see this go on forever.
They don't want to see, you know, Ukraine nuked or anything like that.
And this would just, it would galvanize Russians.
It would really, really just galvanize Russians.
So I don't see it, I don't see any possibility that this being a good thing for Ukraine to be involved.
So if it is anything linked to them, it would probably have to be, again, some rogue people that did it because the blowback would just be monstrous.
Yeah.
But just keep that in mind to what Chad is saying.
If for some reason it comes out that they can prove or link responsibility to Ukraine, I just want everybody to understand maybe the dire consequences of what that could mean.
It could set off a lot of stuff.
I mean, the same thing goes if say that you could link it back to the United States or what you can't, but you know what I'm saying.
or Israel.
I mean, but in particular, yeah, I get it, right?
I mean, and I think that everyone in Ukraine should get that as well, especially, you know, higher up leadership.
But, you know, how desperate is Ukraine?
That's what we don't understand.
But does that, but does that move the narrative or push their needle more for Ukraine?
It doesn't help them at all.
Even if Ukraine, let's say that Ukraine was really desperate.
And right now, I mean, it's troubled, but I mean, they're holding this line of demarcation between the
Russians and Ukrainians hasn't moved much in recent history.
And they're still pretty far from Kiev and so forth.
So it doesn't help Ukraine at all.
It just there's nothing I can see about this that would advance their position, even if they were desperate.
I just don't see any way this benefits them at all.
No way.
That makes sense.
Well, that's why we're here.
We're talking it out.
And I think that it's probably a lot of what people are thinking right now.
There's a lot of people.
But, you know, when I was mentioning in Gushetti before, when I said I wasn't sure if it was a Russian Republic,
I knew it was in Russia.
I just wasn't sure if Englishedi was a republic or just a certain region.
Because remember, you know, I didn't grow up.
I'm still, I know Russia pretty well.
But, you know, I don't know the names of all 26 republics off the top of my head.
So I knew it was a section of Russia.
I just wasn't sure if it was a full republic on its own, but it is.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's crazy, man.
I, you know, we hope for peace for all over the world.
I don't know that we're going to get that.
I think things are going to just keep getting worse, unfortunately.
And especially in the United States, we get an election coming up.
is a very highly contested election.
We have wide open borders.
And I hope that people in the United States,
and we actually just did a border episode last night,
I just want people to understand that when you are in places of public,
and you are in large gatherings,
and you are in these situations to where you could be vulnerable to attack,
just remember, I mean, look, I don't want people to be in fear.
Like the Boston Marathon.
Exactly.
I don't want people to be in fear to where they can't go out and do anything, right?
Because they're so afraid to live.
of their life.
But we also have to understand that the United States that we live in today is starkly different than 10 years ago.
And we have a lot of people in this country.
Not all of them are bad.
Not all of them hate America.
But there are a large group of them probably that hate America.
And they are here for bad intentions because we just don't know.
And so if you let the entire world know that your borders open and it's open for business and you as a terrorist, ISIS, whoever it is, doesn't matter who it is, you can come across.
Well, one thing worth noting, though, almost if you look at the terror attacks that have happened in the U.S., not including 9-11, which was exceptional.
Most of them were homegrown.
Yeah.
Yeah, you're right.
But I just think that's going to change them.
I think we're about to witness a drastic change.
I think there are cells in this country right now that I don't know when, I don't know when the attacks will happen.
But, you know, just like Russia, you know, you would think, you know, you would think, you know,
You know, it's just surprising to hear, like you said, it's surprising to hear a terror attack like this in Russia.
We've not heard.
I mean, you just don't hear stuff like that in Russia like you hear in the United States.
And yes, you are right.
Not for a long time.
I mean, there was the theater attack back in 2004 or something.
Yeah, yeah.
And that was Best Law.
But, yeah, it's been quite a while.
And, you know, those two were both that was related to, you know, leftover parts of the Chechnya and war and so forth.
I got you.
Well, Chad, listen, thank you so much for coming on, man.
We really, really appreciate it short notice for sure.
We will definitely keep you in mind because I'm sure we'll have follow-up.
This story is going to be developing over the next few days and weeks to come.
Chad, can you please tell everyone where to follow you because you have very entertaining content?
I think you're, by the way, I think your content, yes, you did used to live in an amazing, beautiful place, which is, where was it?
St. Kitts.
Yeah, you used to live in a beautiful place.
But I actually think your content in a lot of ways is better now.
Well, that's because I can walk.
Remember, when I lived in saying kids, I was bedridden.
I barely left the house.
I rarely left the bedroom.
Yeah, that's true.
So, you know, now I'm, you know, I still have some surgeries upcoming, but I'm not dying anymore.
And I'm walking four or five miles a day.
So, of course, you know, it's a lot better.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
So where can people follow?
Is it TikTok features?
Well, yeah, they can find if they go to Alex is Notmissing.com.
All of my socials are there.
but I'm on TikTok, Instagram.
My YouTube channel could use some love.
My YouTube channel is pretty small,
but it is starting to grow.
And I'm TikTok fugitive in all three of those platforms.
Or Alex is Notmissing.com or TikTok fugitive.com as well.
Well, if you're in Russia, don't expect your YouTube channel to grow, bro.
I'm just saying.
No, YouTube is huge in Russia, actually.
YouTube is wide open here.
And half of my followers on YouTube are Russian.
Yeah, but I wonder how they censor there.
I mean, well, because it's YouTube.
YouTube.
YouTube is wide.
Wide open in Russia.
But didn't you say that the VPN addresses has something to do with that white people could get on certain things?
No, no, no, no.
That's for Instagram and some others.
But YouTube is not blocked in Russia at all.
That's interesting.
Yeah, it was Instagram.
I just wondered, though, how YouTube censors stuff in Russia, right?
Does that make sense?
Like, what you guys talk about?
They don't.
No.
The only stuff we can't see here is like sometimes if it's commercial stuff, they will say that it's only available in the United States.
but that's not really blocking Russia specifically.
Basically, in fact, we don't even see commercials anymore.
So if you want to watch YouTube without commercials, get a VPN that supports has a Russian server.
Connect to a Russian server and watch YouTube.
You won't see any commercials.
What I would be interested in, though, is that if you and Russia go on your YouTube channel
and start talking about COVID-19 and the vaccine and just saying some very dangerous.
Oh, yeah.
No, YouTube will still censor that.
It's still the same policies.
Okay, I got you.
That's what I was wondering.
All right.
Well, Chad, we do appreciate it, man.
Thank you so much for coming on.
We will definitely follow this case, obviously, or this situation as it unfolds.
I'm sure we're going to hear a lot more news over the next few days.
Chad Howard, thank you so much.
Everyone, please go follow Chad Hauer on all of these social media.
TikTok Fugitive, right?
That's where people can find you.
And, yes.
Wait, I got one more thing, Chad.
This just said four minutes ago they have identified and detained Samuel.
Hydingo?
Hi, Dinko.
And I like, I don't know if, have you seen anything on your telegram about that?
Not yet.
I'm still scanning because I'm like dozens of channels.
Samuel.
But I will take a look.
It's H-Y-D-N-K-O, a suspected G-U-R officer at the site of the Krokes City Hall in Moscow.
What is G-U-R?
I think that's, before I speak, hold on real quick.
I'm pretty sure I know what it is, but I don't want to accuse the wrong thing before I
say something, so let me check it real quick to make sure that I'm right.
This will not be one I want to make a mistake.
Yeah, it says a suspected G.U.R. officer.
So we don't know if this is...
Yeah, by the way, we cannot verify this right now, but these are reports.
I just, that's what I just saw.
I don't know what G.U.R.
Apparently, it's one of the Russian intelligence agencies.
Hmm.
Well, that'd be interesting.
That would be really interesting.
But that also could be very well be propaganda, because there's...
trying to blame it on Russia themselves instead of some of the Soviet Union, but the thing is I could
swear that, let me check one other thing because, because there was also, because Ukraine and Russia
share a lot of the same acronyms for things. Yeah, see, that's the thing. There's a GRU in Ukraine as
well. So it's hard to say, you know. Okay. Well, at any rate. I still don't think it's linked to Ukraine.
Yeah. And at any rate, if this is, you know, a true report, that's who they're saying.
Yeah, typically the one in Ukraine is called G-U-R, not G-R-U.
Yeah, that's what is.
Yeah, G-R.
It says G-U-R or G-R-U-R.
It says G-U-R.
G-U-R.
That's the Ukrainian one.
Okay.
And his name is Samuel Hydenko.
That sounds Ukrainian.
H-Y-D-N-K-O.
Well, I did reach out.
I don't even know if I should say this on the podcast.
I probably shouldn't.
Nope, not going to say it.
Anyways, I did reach out to someone who's going to be like, hey, what you've got up to the past week?
No, I'm just kidding.
Not even going to go there.
But we'll figure it out.
We're going to get to the bottom of this stuff.
Chad, listen, keep us up to date.
And we will definitely probably bring you back for our follow-up to this because I know you're heavily on this.
And we're praying for all the families in Russia, especially the people that have died this evening and the ones have been trapped in fire and died that way.
what an awful death.
I just feel so terrible for these people.
And I do pray for them and I pray for their families.
I think the big point we're missing.
I do too.
And let's remember everybody in the conflict as well on both sides, especially civilians.
Yes.
Yeah.
For sure.
People just pretend like if there's a conflict between governments or militaries that
civilians no longer matter and that's not true.
And I think that's, I think that war is a big machine and is money.
And man, we got to, I don't know.
It's just sad.
and we're very fortunate to be alive and well right now,
but there's a lot of people there are not,
and so we do want to point that out.
But Chad,
thank you so much for coming on,
man.
We really appreciate it,
and we'll bring you back for sure very soon.
Okay.
Thanks for having me on.
Thanks, Chad.
Thanks, Chad.
All right, guys, that was Chad Howard.
TikTok fugitive.
We're so glad to have them on
because he offers a very interesting perspective on this.
I mean, obviously, he lives in Russia.
He knows a lot about Russia.
His wife is Russian.
I think his wife actually has some family involved.
and Russian government or military.
I can't remember exactly.
I should have asking that.
But anyways,
what do you think about this?
I mean,
what is just kind of our final thoughts?
And listen,
I'm going to say this.
And I'm just going to say this.
I just,
number one,
I don't necessarily think
that it's 100% ISIS.
I just don't buy that personally.
I don't buy that personally.
I think there is something a lot more,
I don't know, man.
Like,
what I will put it this way is like,
false flags and stuff like that.
And I'm not saying Russia false flag.
I'm saying false flag from another nation, right?
To where it escalates things on purpose.
That is something that I am just constantly thinking about.
As soon as I saw this happen in Moscow,
and I started thinking about this is like,
this looks like a false flag to me.
Is this going to be the trigger for World War III?
Especially if they can pin it on either Ukraine or a Western or NATO nation
or some involvement or connection to that.
I don't know.
But the ISIS thing, it's just like, I just don't buy it.
I don't know.
But a lot of people are saying, you know, in these surveys that they think it's CIA and CIA is in America.
Yeah, I know.
And CIA is responsible for a lot of bad things that have happened around the world.
Yeah.
You know, I'm not blaming CIA, but at this point, it's hard to blame, you know, you don't know who to blame, I guess.
You know, it's hard for me to say ISIS because the dudes don't look Middle Eastern.
Yes, like Chad said, you know, they could be Muslim and be of white descent.
That could be a possibility.
So I don't know.
Well, what I will tell you is the pictures I've seen, you know, may be 100% honest of who I think they look like the most.
And look, this is just my opinion, guys.
I'm just saying, if you guys look at these images, some of them look like, like if you look at pictures of IDF soldiers,
Israeli National or Israeli Defense Force or some of these people?
No, they don't look in the Braille.
Oh, really?
No, not to me.
Here, here.
I want to bring up an IDF soldier and I want you to compare.
I know what they look like.
They look more Middle Eastern to me than white.
Anyone in Israel.
Middle Eastern?
Yeah, they have people in Israel have a kind of a, almost a middle eastern kind of deeper skin look.
color. I don't know. I don't know, but I could be wrong. Who knows?
Because my phone would do what the hell I'm asking. I just don't see why Israel would do this when they both are against the same thing. They both call them Nazis or whatever. Why would they go against each other?
Well, that's an IDF soldier. That's one. Yeah, he's way darker than the guy's in the photo.
You think so? Yeah.
What about that guy? Possibly.
I don't know.
I'm just, I don't know.
Like I said, I have no idea.
Here's one, idea of soldier.
No.
No, that he's a way.
He's white.
Like, I don't know.
But he's got that middle eastern kind of look to him.
Yeah, ISIS.
And we'll do ISIS soldier.
I don't know, dude.
I have no idea who did this.
But what I will say is, well, ISIS, hell, you can't even see their damn face most of the time.
Well, you've got to look into, like Chad said.
Well, look, these guys, look, they look decently white and they're ISIS.
I mean, they're not like, look at this guy.
They look like Israeli soldiers.
Yeah, exactly.
I don't know.
Exactly.
I don't know.
That's my point.
Like, who knows?
Oh, gosh.
And I'm not trying to laugh because this is a really sad time.
And this is very sad.
And I don't want to see anyone dying, especially civilians.
Yeah, for sure.
You know, whoever, you know, like Chad said, there's a lot of people that hate Russia.
obviously, you know,
United States doesn't have a good...
United States, Ukraine and NATO.
Yeah.
They don't have a good relationship with them.
And from what it sounds like, ISIS doesn't either.
I guess not.
And I'm not sure about Israel.
Yeah, we don't know.
I don't know.
Well, I mean, you heard one of the Israeli people that apparently Russia...
But he could be like an extremist, like he was saying.
That's one person that came out and said, you know, Russia needs to go down and da-da-da.
Yeah.
So we don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
We'll get to the bottom also of just any other speculation or talks or, you know, video or audio of Israelis that have talked about Russian, maybe their involvement in Hamas.
We'll get to that as well.
This is definitely not going to be a one part episode.
Guys, I encourage all of you please to go follow us on X.
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And once you learn it, once you get on there and understand how it works, you can literally get direct information from Russia,
get direct information from ISIS, get direct information from whoever.
where these ISIS members are supposedly claiming, what is it called?
Claiming responsibility for this attack is on telegram.
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We are going to end this podcast here, guys.
Friday night. It is about 6.30, which, surprisingly enough, we're actually going to end pretty
decently earlier tonight. And we've, I think we had a pretty good episode. I think we've given you guys
at the very least all the information we can possibly give. The last thing I will say, actually,
because I did want to point this out, is here are some scenarios about this situation,
and at least according to this post, and I thought it seemed pretty interesting. These are
the possible three scenarios. U.S. NATO, Ukraine were behind the attack in an attempt to force Putin to
escalate and drag NATO into a full-scale World War III.
Now, most people don't understand that there are a lot of war dogs out there that really want
World War III. It's the military and duster complex. It's all these groups, organizations,
and governments, and bureaucrats that want World War III. You look at Lindsay Graham,
you look at people, even like Nikki Haley, you look at all these politicians,
are like, yeah, let's kill Russia, let's destroy Russia, let's just do whatever we can to cause
World War III. This is one scenario. Number two,
Russia may have been behind the attack to justify a very significant escalation, right?
That's scenario two.
Scenario three is an unknown entity such as ISIS that carried out the attack for unknown reasons.
So option one seems the most plausible, according to a lot of people, because the West are the only ones who could possibly benefit from this situation.
Putin already has all the supporting needs to do whatever the hell he wants, and he does not need to kill his own civilians to justify a war he is already in.
fresh off an election where he got 88% of the vote.
Deep state actors are the ones who are desperate to start a global war.
It solves all of the problems.
They can cancel the U.S. election, further extend their power,
and the war machine keeps getting paid.
Would they start World War III to stop Trump?
Would they start World War III to stop elections?
We don't know.
Those are the possible scenarios.
Guys, you let us know what you think.
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between now and then.
Hopefully, right, babe?
Absolutely, yes.
Are you going to be our director?
Yeah, I'm going to be everything.
The producer, the director, and the actress.
Okay.
All right.
Well, we'll see how that works out.
But guys, we love you.
Until next time, we pray for all the families and all the people involved in Russia.
We pray for everyone that is suffering around the world.
We love everybody.
We love all humans.
And we just want peace, man.
Until next time, peace out.
Peace out, guys.
