Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Murdaugh Murders Podcast | Alex Murdaugh Shooter Arrested | New Details

Episode Date: September 15, 2021

What a crazy week this has been in the Murdaugh Murders Podcast series! There has been an arrest in the shooting of Alex Murdaugh, Curtis Edward Smith was arrested and charged with multiple crimes including assisted suicide. In addition to this arresst , there has been a new case opened in relation to a former housekeeper that died while working for the murdaughs.

This is the hour, the darkest place. Dark days in front of those maids. It's a good word. And welcome to Investigate Earth podcast. I'm your host, Chad, alongside my wife, Sherry. Say hello, Sherry. How's everybody doing? Hi, everyone.

So it is September to 15, 2021. And this case of Alec and Murdoch and the Murdoch murders just keep getting crazier as It goes long. I mean, it's simply... And I love the intro music. That was perfect because it's just like chaotic. Yeah, it's a good world gone bad by... It's a Wildside remix.

So, yeah, it's... Obviously, we've had numerous other episodes on the Murdoch murders, and this is based on a prominent South Carolina family that got involved in, you know, some things that a lot of people believed they got out of. And anything they got in, they got out of. They were, you know, held a lineage of prosecutors and DAs and people, judges and everybody else from as much as seven counties in the low country of South Carolina. And so you guys can go back and listen to the whole story. We have five other episodes on this.

You can just go from the beginning and just check out everything like that. But it has gotten crazier. And so we had to do another episode of this, of course. So where are we at now? We're not going to go back into the whole story again because I think people that have been following us should know by now what the deal is with the Murdox and the murders and Alec or Alec Murdoch.

So Alec Murdoch was shot over Labor Day weekend and he was shot in the head by who he calls a passerby while he was changing a tire that went flat on a rural road in South Carolina near Hampton, South Carolina. And so the entire time, his story was that, you know, someone passed him in a truck. They turned around. A blue truck, too. A blue truck.

Anyway, someone turned around and they shot him in the head. He survived. It was strange kind of what, you know, everything that happened with that after the fact, because there's, there were reports that the life flight helicopter was dispatched before law enforcement was. So this life flight helicopter. coming from Georgia, from what we understand, was dispatch well before the Sheriff's Department was ever even dispatched. And so that was just weird. You know, from what it sounded like, this

guy was on a helicopter pretty soon after law enforcement arrived, and he was on his way to a medical center. And then shortly after he came out and said, hey, I'm, I am going to enter rehab for opioid addiction and this whole opioid addiction thing has, you know, I'm skeptical. I'm not saying that he's not opioid addicted, but I'm very skeptical of the whole thing. But why now I'm going to go to rehab it? Yeah. So there was an arrest made in the Alec Murdoch shooting and so many of you probably think, oh, finally we have someone.

Maybe this is who killed Paul and Maggie Murdoch, which was, for those of you don't know, a brief timeline is Paul was the son of Alec and Maggie. was involved in a fatal boat crash to killed a young lady in Hilton Head South Carolina or Beaufort, South Carolina, more than three years ago. And basically, he was from what a lot of people thought, he was going to get away with it because of whose family was and everything else. They thought that the family was tampering with not only evidence, but coercive and witnesses and so on and so forth. He finally got indicted, but not long after he got indicted in April of this past year of 2021. he and his mother were at their hunting lodge in South Carolina and they got brutally murdered by a shotgun slash and AR-15.

And then not long after that. Now you have Alec Murdoch was shot while he was supposedly changing a tire on the side of the road. And then as of last night, September the 14th, 2021, there was an arrest made in the case. And it turns out that Alec Murdoch planned this whole thing from what Slet is saying and what what their statement was released. And so, long story short. And the story's never going to end is the thing. But basically, he planned this whole thing,

and he planned it with a former client to kill him so that his surviving son could collect a life insurance payout of about $10 million. He was shot in a head on the roadway, and that was September 4th. and a family spokesperson had previously blamed the shooting on an unidentified man in a blue truck. However, Murdoch did admit to authorities Monday that he conspired with the man to kill him as part of a suicidal fraud scheme. And according to an affidavit to support charges against the alleged gunman,

the alleged gunman is known as Curtis Edward Smith 61, and he was charged with assisted suicide, assault and battery of a high and aggravated nature, pointing and presenting a firearm, insurance fraud, and conspiracy to commit insurance fraud. And this is according to South Carolina Law Enforcement Division. So Murdoch is described as a co-defendant in the affidavit. So this is Alec, Alec Murdoch. But no charges so far have been filed against him. Because he's in rehab. But yeah, but additional charges are expected to be filed.

The Murdoch attorney had previously represented Smith in an unrelated court proceeding. So Alec had actually represented this guy in a previous court battle. Exactly. So he got this guy to, he wanted to end his life. Yeah. And so he knew this guy from helping him with a speeding ticket or something. And he said, I want you to help me commit suicide. So Alec took his own knife and he stabbed his own tire and threw out his knife, I guess, in the woods right there.

Because they recovered the knife that night. And then I'm not trying to laugh. It's not funny, but it is. But because the Smith guy, apparently he's very shaky. Like he almost looks like he has Parkinson disease. This is a shooter. Yeah, the shooter guy that's supposed to shoot him and kill him. And the reason why he wants to kill himself is like, you know, he wants to give his son the money.

It's not big. And I don't know. Is he really mourning Maggie and Paul's death? I don't know. But the main comments in here he says is because he wants. wanted to give his son the insurance. He didn't say because he was mourning anything. Yeah, it's strange. So he actually, on the Today Show, today on NBC, he went on, or not Alec Murdoch went on, but his attorney went on there. And then it's Dick Harputalian.

Yeah, and this is a new guy. Yeah. This is not the normal guy. So he acknowledged the scheme, saying his client was depressed and suicidal due to the recent death of his wife's son and elderly father, as well as his struggles with opioid addiction. But in a sense, he said, statement, his attorney, and, well, not only Mr. Harputilion, I can't even say that name, but Jim Griffin. Yeah, that's the main guy. That's the long term. And he is a criminal defense attorney, said their client is not without fault, but added his life has been changed by opioid addiction. It's funny that you didn't say your wife and child, but opioid addiction. Exactly. So the statement was today on the Today Show, it says, for the last 20 years, there have been many

people feeding his addiction to opioids. During this time, these individuals took advantage of his addiction and his ability to pay substantial funds for illegal drugs. One of those individuals took advantage of his mental illness and agreed to take Alex's life by shooting him in the head. This is what his attorney said on this Today Show. So, in other words, Smith is his drug dealer. Yeah, but I mean, look, you know, there's millions of dollars misappropriated from the law firm.

Then you have this housekeeper, which we're going to talk about. Now, SLED has now opened a new probe into a housekeeper death that was tied and associated with the Murdox that was a housekeeper at the Murdox. And so, you know, it's just getting crazier by the minute. And so this new probe opened up for the... Now, we've mentioned this on our previous podcast about the housekeeper. Are you wanting to say something? No, I'm listening.

Sorry, our dogs are going crazy downstairs and it's distracting. Yeah. Go ahead. But anyway, so we had talked about the housekeepers before, or the housekeeper, died while they Gloria Saturn Field yeah while she worked

for the Murdox for two decades a long time she worked for them and I know that whole story if you you know

want me to go into detail well so and I'll explain it and we can unless you want to explain it but that's up to you I was just going to read the consensus basically

on what happened how long when it was from Gloria? Yes well I'd rather us to talk about it than read anything Well, I was just going to read exactly what it was.

Okay. Go ahead. Well, it was three years ago. It was a longtime housekeeper and nanny for the Murdoch family. And now it's going to be a subject of a criminal investigation. And they announced this on Wednesday, yielding yet another unexpected turn. A spokesperson for the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division said the death of Gloria Satterfield has prompted a review following a request from Hampton County Corner and based on information gathered during a separate investigation involving. involving Alex Murdoch, the legal

cyan whose wife and son were fairly shot. So, Satterfield's death was not reported to the corner at the time, nor was an autopsy performed Hampton County coroner Angela Topper wrote in a letter to the state investigators in her request. On the death certificate, the manner of death was ruled natural, which is inconsistent with injury sustained

in a trip and fall accident. Her family said in a statement that it was a sad day for them following the announcement of the investigation. They said the news of the opening of an criminal investigation causes more questions at a time when the family just wanted answers regarding the claims that were ascertained in connection with the death of their mother and any settlement reached. The statement said, today this nightmare escalated for the family with the news of opening of their criminal investigation into the death of Gloria Satterfield. So she was 57 when she died in February of 2018 from injury sustained from a fall in the Murdoch home. She was employed for more than two decades with them,

and according to the suit, the exact details of the fall remain unclear to her two sons, Michael Tony Satterfield, and Brian Harriet. So they were supposed to get $470,000 in direct payment to compensate them for the griefs are in mourning associated with the loss of their mother. Thing is, though, they never, ever received that money.

So that is the outline of the Satterfield. And we had talked about this before on the podcast and and you know what were some of and we can talk about this what were were there rumors that they intentionally did this what were the rumors about the satyrfield case tell you in my own like opinion and discussion what i think happened so um gloria was their housekeeper for a long time two decades is a long time yeah and so you know people talking about uh gloria and leading up to gloria's death you know some people say that maybe Timmy has something to do with her fall or maybe her say who Timmy is because

well Timmy is the other side of Paul when he's drinking the alter ego so you know I can imagine just everything that's going on right now that I'm you know that is probable that maybe Gloria was pushed down the stairs and not accidentally fell down the stairs um so Gloria fell down the stairs. She was in the hospital for a week and she was alert for a week and then she passed after that. But it's just so weird that there was no autopsy. And, you know, they were, Alec was telling her sons, I'm going to take care of both of you boys. Everything's going to be fine. But they got the attorney for her lawsuit. He sued himself for them to get the money. And then so the attorney got part of the money and the rest went back to the law firm. And they

said this case was settled in 2018 right but these two boys have not got five hundred thousand dollars from anyone they've not collected any money from i what i think is a wrongful death and the insurance paid for this so where did the money go good question um where well and and the whole thing about and i mean that's crazy and and we talked about it before and you know that there's probably some kind of connection to this housekeeper uh and the murdox and possibly they could have possibly had something to do with the, with the, with the death of Satterfield.

Well, obviously, if they're reopening the case, I think there's probable cause to think that. Yeah. Yeah, you would think so. And so,

you know, with that, with that and then the Mallory Beach death, which was caused, um, oh, you're choking to death? Okay,

sorry, but, um, sorry. Yeah, but the, the Mallory Beach death, which,

you know, was caused by, from what the court documents and everything says, Paul, being drunk and driving the boat. And being to me. You know, it goes back to, and then the Stephen Smith case. The Stephen Smith case was reopened not long after Paul and Maggie were murdered on their hunting property. And the Stephen Smith case was reopened because of, not because they wanted to see if maybe the Murdox had anything to do with the Stephen Smith death.

But they actually reopened the case because they were wanting to see if, possibly Stephen Smith's family had anything to do with Paul and Maggie's murder. Yeah. Which is crazy to me. Because if you're going to say, okay, well, this was a hit and run, that's what they ruled the death of Stephen Smith. But then you're going to open the case back up and look and see if there's possibly someone on the Stephen Smith side of the family that could have killed Paul and Maggie. That's crazy. But what it does kind of connect, if you kind of connect the dots on this, Stephen Smith's case was ruled a hit and run.

the lead investigator of that case. And by the way, for those of you don't know, Stephen Smith were, they were acquaintances with the Murdox. There were rumors going around that there possibly was a gay relationship with one of the sons. We don't know if that's true or not. And then not long after the rumors are getting out, Stephen Smith ended up dead on a rural road in South Carolina. And it was ruled by a pathologist and a medical examiner, the same person as a hit and run. Although the investigators on the scene that night and the lead investigator did not believe it was a hit and run.

They believed it was a possible blunt force trauma slash murder. And they even went to the medical examiner's office to discuss this with them. And they were treated horribly by this person and basically told to get out of their office. So that case was filed as a, you know, hit and run. Nothing, nothing to see here. Although they wanted them to rule it at a homicide. Yeah, the glorious Satterfield case. I mean, you know, she was a longtime housekeeper for decades.

And, you know, when someone has an injury, such as from a fall to where it's going to cause death, and they even say that in the report, that, and it was ruled a natural. Natural causes. That's not natural. Natural. When you fall down the stairs. No matter what. I mean, you would have, yeah, it would say something like, you know, trauma to the head, you know, whatever the case is.

Obviously, broken neck. But they don't know because they didn't do an autopsy. Yeah, they didn't even do an autopsy. And that's so strange. Why would they not do that? I mean, what I would like to know is this medical examiner, the same medical examiner to examine Stephen Smith? Yeah, seriously.

Maybe they're all in, like, the same, like, crowd that are keeping things from being, like, public or being real, like, faking it and hiding it. I don't know. Well, the question is, do we, first of all, do we believe this consensus that he was this big opioid, abuser and he was this big druggie. I mean, is this being presented as a cover? Whether it be

by him, attorneys, whatever the case may be, I mean, it's just strange. No one ever knew this. No one ever, you know, you know, no one ever mentioned this. And now all of a sudden, when he gets shot and it goes awry, meaning it didn't work out as planned, however it was planned.

And we were saying that day, like, if he gets shot and he ends up dying, then, okay, the story story is going like it's not Alec at fall or Alec has done something foul play right that was somebody else going after him but as soon as we found out that the shot barely hit him yeah that was weird then we're like oh my god you know so would he so would he have you know so then the question about his

shooting comes up as you know number one did he pay this Edward Smith guy did he pay him to... I mean, I'm not saying, but did he pay him to shoot at him to try to kill him or whatever. So the attention would be taken off of him and the Paul and Maggie thing saying basically,

see, there's someone after me too. Right. Because I mean, I think it's, when someone just, like Alec, he just comes out and he just releases all the details. Hey, no, no, no, this is what happened. I did pay him because I was going to kill myself because I wanted my son to have insurance money

because I was just done with everything. thing. Is it really that? Or did he really try to get someone to act like they were the murders of whoever? Yeah. It could be. I mean, you don't know. But if he was, if he did try to get someone to kill him, you know, is this guy responsible for the deaths of Paul and Maggie? That's the question. Did he did, did Alec Murdoch pay this guy, Curtis Edward Eddie Smith, to kill Paul and Maggie? Well, if he did, he's not a good shot. Well, I get it. But. Yeah, I mean, you know, is it possible that, you know, he maybe Alec never wanted to actually be killed? It was just a. Yeah, so I don't think, I don't think this other, the Smith guy could be involved in Paul and Maggie's death. Because they were shot really, I mean, they were shot point blank.

Yeah, I know, but that doesn't matter. It all depends on what his purpose of what he was trying to accomplish that day was. So he's pretending to shoot him. So it's taking the heat off of him. Well, I mean, he did get shot, apparently, but, you know, that's the thing. But how do you get somebody say, Oh, just graze my head. Well, you don't, but it doesn't make sense because this whole time there's been conflicting reports on the extent of Alex's injury that day.

You know, at first it was a superficial gunshot wound. Then, and then, you know, then his attorneys were coming out. And by the way, I don't know what the hell has the attorneys got going on. But, you know, they've made so many different conflicting reports. And but his attorneys came out and said, oh, no, this guy, you know, he's on a, he's on. death's door. You know, he's, you know, they're transporting him and maybe he'll stay alive. Maybe he won't. It's looking real bad. Yeah, I was freaking out. I'm like, Chad. So, but then, but then it comes out as superficial. Then the police reports are changed. They, you know, it goes from no visible injuries, uh, on the police report to then it was changed. And then the helicopter is coming before the police. There's all kinds of just crazy stuff that does not normally happen. No, it's, it's so weird. I mean, it is very, very strange. What if Alex hired the Smith guy to shoot bullets at him when he was, you know, changing his tire, but that he was supposed to miss and he accidentally didn't miss? You know what I'm saying?

I mean, I've thought about that too, but it's strange. I've read a lot of people, like they watched his arraignment today. This guy can't hardly walk. He can't move. He's very shaky. People say he looks like he has Parkinson's disease or it's. because he's meth out and, you know, going through withdrawals, I don't know. Collie.

But you just think if you have a gun and you're really shaky, yeah, you could, if you're supposed to miss, you could accidentally hit. And if you're supposed to hit, you could accidentally miss. I don't know. Yeah, and the thing is, and so going back to Gloria Satterfield, you know, there was a lawsuit filed today, Wednesday, alleging civil conspiracy and stolen funds in connection with the, with the Satterfield's death. This was filed today by Satterfield's family. Right. And think about it, civil conspiracy.

That's one of the things they filed it under. They obviously have some room to file under that cause and then obviously a judge or whoever will say, yes, yes, you can file it under that. But it was filed on behalf of her sons and that they received no money. No money. And they're supposed to receive $500,000. And it all went to Alec in his law firm. Yeah, it's... Some of it went to the attorney that he gave him and the rest went to the law firm and they never saw a penny.

Even though before this happened, I was like, I was like, I swear to God, this lady's death is not a coincidence. I know it. And they are like, oh, well, it was settled. He got $500,000. We'll come to find out, they didn't get anything. Neither of the boys. And she was alive from what I was told for a week after she fell. and people are like, well, do you not think that she would have told people that she was pushed or something if that was, you know, if it was real?

Yeah. Sorry, guys. Yeah, that is your phone going. Sorry, I forgot. Going crazy. And, you know, and the thing is, yeah, like, that whole, that death was suspect from the very beginning. I mean, it was, it was one of those things that everyone kind of, now, but do we know any, what were the rumors that, like, why was that death suspicious from the beginning?

Do you remember like any of the things that people were saying about the Satterfield death? No, I was just saying it suspicious because I... But no, there was a lot of people saying that, but I was just trying to figure out. Yeah, well, because it was a fall and because of the way they set up the insurance money and the way that, you know, Alec was suing himself and he got his own attorneys to go through this. He's like, I'm going to take care of these boys. You know, I think all of that adds up to it. You know, and they probably believed, oh, yeah, he's a good man.

You know, my mom's been working for him for decades. They're going to take care of me. And they never saw a dime. But the reason why I felt like there was something strange is when I first, like, learned about all this stuff. I learned about it when Maggie and Paul got murdered. And then I went back and I didn't know about, you know, the boat trip or any of that. I didn't know about that prior. Yeah.

But after, like, reading all that stuff and saying, oh, and then I read about Stephen Smith. And I read about all these murders going on. And then I heard about the housekeeper. I was like, do you, could it be? Is it possible? Who knows? And then they also had a groundsman. He wasn't murdered, but he was fired.

Like, soon after all that happened. And there are people speculating that the groundsman either helped him do something or they didn't want him to say anything. and you know I mean yeah but so it all kind of goes like in this deep

like waggily circle spin spun web of like lies and truth I don't know it's just crazy so let's just assume that you know the drug thing is true right

I mean you know opioids are number one hard to get nowadays so number two you know what kind of opioids was it you know this guy was charged Curtis Eddie Smith. Now he was released on Bond today, $5,000 bond, the shooter of Alec Murdoch.

But then he was later picked up again. Again. Drug charges. And so he was also charged with distribution of methamphetamines and possession of marijuana. You know, so it wasn't anything opioid related. But it's just, it's strange to me because, I mean, seriously, number one, opioids are hard to get. The town of Hampton and, you know, the county of Hampton, is a small place.

I mean, there's not a lot of people there. And so to be, to be, I mean, some of these reports are talking about some of this misappropriation of money is, is opioids. But that's millions of dollars we're talking about. I mean, obviously, Alec Murdoch is not taking millions of dollars with opioids, but is he involved in a much bigger drug-pushing thing?

I mean, is, and who else is involved? If that's the case. Let's just say the drug thing's true. Now, the reason I would say, you know, if misappropriation, the misappropriation of funds went somewhere for something, something mischievous, something very cynical or not cynical, what's the word, sinister. And we talked about this on the last Murdoch podcast. You know, if you are misappropriating funds and then you have Maggie that filed a forensic audit of their finances and it was under to understand, I guess they were separated, even though this, strange if you look at maggie's profile you know she still posted pictures

of alec all the time with their sons and every event and all this stuff so it was weird well that's not really weird I don't think well it kind is I mean if they're separated and they're away from you know that's your children's father I know but they were still doing things together I know but they were still doing things together all the time because they're in the public too maybe

but either way I mean to try to say that your misappropriated funds over millions of dollars drug abuse millions of dollars I mean, were you the main drug dealer? I mean, what was really going on? And who else is involved?

Yeah. And I don't think it's, I don't think it's just feeding your own habit with that kind of money. I don't think so either. It's a way bigger thing than feeding an addiction. Yeah, you don't take millions of dollars and do anything. Now, the other thing is, you know, the attorneys came out and said that, you know, this guy, Curtis Eddie Smith, was taking advantage of him in a fragile state because of his wife and son's death. as far as the drugs go and the money and all this stuff.

But, you know, that doesn't make too much sense to me either because, you know, the reality is that no matter how much money are you paying for opioids. You can't possibly take that many opioids. And how's this guy taking advantage of him? He asked him to shoot him. Yeah. I wonder how much he got paid to do that. I've heard like $5,000. I don't know.

I mean, but what I would love to know is, is it. This dude got a lot of money from, you know, is this guy the guy that killed Paul and Maggie? I doubt it. I doubt it. Do you think it? Or do you think Alec did himself? I don't know if he did it himself, but I think he has something to do with it. And I don't think this dude is the one.

Yeah, I mean, it would be really dumb for Alec to hire this guy, the same guy. Yeah. I mean, that'd be stupid. But is that misappropriation of funds? did it go to whoever killed Paul and Maggie? That's the question. Because, you know, if you misappropriate funds, I'm sure, you know, we don't know what the life insurance policies on Paul and Maggie were.

You know, we know obviously now that Buster had a $10 million policy. So obviously you would think that Paul had a similar policy. Exactly. And so did Maggie. And so did Maggie. And before, I didn't really believe, like a lot of people were saying, you know, he might have done this for insurance. I'm like, why would he do that? He's rich. But now that everything is going around, okay, he was taking money from his law firm, he was doing this, he was doing all this bad stuff. Well, why would you put it past him? Well, there was a lot of money going somewhere. Yeah,

if he was going to, like, do an insurance policy against his own death for his son, why wouldn't he do that for his kid and wife? Like, kill them for their insurance policy. I mean, that totally, I believe it now like before i didn't i'm like why would a rich person do that well what i will say is it's just like man you know if you if your wife if your wife and son literally just got killed not long ago and you then think it's a bright idea to hire someone to try to kill you i mean like seriously think about that so you know was he really trying to be killed that day Yeah, that's a question, like we said. Because if he was,

then he didn't give a shit what was going to be the outcome of anything afterwards, you know, I guess. I mean, you know, I mean, if it's true what he's saying, he wanted Buster to get the money,

then he wouldn't really give a shit, you know, because he knows that he can't kill himself and get the money. Right. But then again, he could have just, you know, drove his car as fast as he possibly could

and hit a tree, you know, or, you know. But I guess if you, if they know, you committed suicide they don't get the money, right? No, yeah. And that's why he hired

this guy to do it. Yeah, but even still, man, that's just so you know, that had to take some planning, even though obviously it wasn't great planning. This guy should have went to the range a couple times before he tried this.

But, you know, but the thing is, it just shows Alec Murdoch's mind. It shows what he's capable of doing. Right. If he's capable of planning. Hiring. someone to kill him, to kill himself. Obviously, he's capable of hiring someone to kill his wife and his son.

Yeah, but he's still, you know, looking for those people. Well, the question is, too, like, if they were supposedly separating everything, then why did he even show up at the hunting lodge to find them? I mean, if they're separated, which is what everybody's saying, they've been separated, they've been separated. Yeah, she moved to Edisto, right? Okay, so number one, why was she at the hunting lodge? And number two, why did he show up there on, just so happens, 45 minutes to an hour

after they got murdered. Yeah, because no one knew, I guess, they were separated except for, like, maybe close friends. I don't know. Yeah, so why did he show up there? Yeah, so why would you? Because if you're separated, you don't want to see that person. No. No, I mean, that's the point.

You know, I mean, the whole thing doesn't make sense to me. That doesn't make sense to me just like this shooting. And he said, I just got back in the 911 call, which is kind of freaky to me. I don't know if anyone else's, like, pointed that out. I'm not saying I'm going back up there. There's a part where he goes back up to the kennels. But the first part of the 911 call, he said, I just got back. Meaning he was at the hunting lodge before, which could be a lie.

I don't know. And the 911 call, you made a good point last time we were listening to it. And you guys can all go check it out. But, you know, the 911 call, it does. When it dials the 911, you can hear that part. And then it connects his phone, even though the 911 operators have not said anything yet. but the line is alive at that point. And so he's making no noise.

You can hear the dogs in the background. You can hear the background noise. He's making no noise. He's not crying. He's not doing any of that stuff. As soon as the 911 dispatcher comes on, he starts crying. Or he starts, to me, I remember when the 911 call came out. I said it sounds fake.

Yeah, and at the time, I didn't believe it. I'm like, no, he wouldn't do that. No, I said it was not believing it at all. I said it sounds fake to me. I'm like, how? He's like squalling. Yeah, it sounds fake. And I think it still does.

He wasn't squalling. He was... He was high-pitched. He sounded like a woman. Hey, this is Alec Murdoch. Yeah. But you can do that. The point when he got kind of pissed off or frustrated is when she said,

Are you in a mobile home or a house? He's like, I'm in a house. Yeah. Like, it almost made him feel like, how dare you say I'm in a mobile home? You know? I'm sure. And another thing that a lot of people are. are saying is like when they take out the 911 operator's voice they hear him saying

damn it paul why did you get involved isn't that weird yeah it's almost like a play it's almost not it's not it's almost not like him saying it to himself like no he was saying it to 911 recording no he wasn't saying he was saying it before the recording he like it to me it was what do you mean obviously the recording was going no but he didn't say it to the operas He was saying it to himself and he was not being recorded. But he was being recorded. Yeah, but he didn't know that. Yes, he does know that.

He knows any time you call 911, it's an automatic recording. What I'm saying is... So maybe he was doing that on purpose. Yes, exactly. Oh, okay. That's my point. He was saying that as a front. As a ploy.

He was acting like he was saying it to himself, even though he knows it's going to be recorded. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, I got you. Yeah, he's not stupid. Well, I mean, he actually... No, he's not. He plays dumb, but he's not dumb.

Okay. well, what is it going on right now? Well, I mean, he, you know, I don't know. We don't, you know, the question is, I guess they effed up the shooting scene. And he had no choice but to say something. You know, when they found his knife that led to him, that's what screwed him probably. And why? And the helicopter coming before law enforcement.

Probably. And that probably, you know, the helicopter, it still doesn't even make sense how the helicopter was dispatched and on its before law enforcement ever arrived, you know? It doesn't make sense. Someone had to get that on the, you know, on the role. I don't know if that was because they were afraid he was going to be arrested because whatever was supposed to happen didn't. Because you remember, he calls his brother and his attorney first, and he probably called

him like, dude, you're not going to believe what happened. I just got grazed by a bullet, but I'm fine. What should I do? But he didn't say that, though. Well, I'm saying he could have said that to his attorney because they don't, he doesn't ever call 911 first. Yeah, well. He calls his brother and he calls his attorney first.

I think he called 911 Paul and Maggie, at least as far as we know. Well, maybe right after he called him. I don't know. But, you know, the question here is, is that, you know, is he's not dumb,

but I do think that when it didn't go the way, and the question is, which way was it supposed to go? Did he really, did he really want to be killed? Or did he want it to look like someone was trying to kill him. And both things are weird. But we can't really answer that question because we don't even know what the true injury was. That that report has been changed so much. It went from...

It went from superficial to entry and exit wound. It's when back and forth, the law enforcement report itself has been changed after the fact. That don't happen very often. Yeah. And why is that happening? Who do you blame for that? I don't know. But... I think I do. Well, we're not going to you know, allege anything. But what I'm saying is, well, then just say it. Who?

Well, I'm just saying, how do you change reports on a police report and say one thing and then change it 24 hours later and change it again? And the reason for that is because media coverage

got a hold of it and then they started getting reports and then after the fact they changed it to make it, which looks even worse, but they changed it because initially it said there was no visible injuries.

Okay? so you know and then they change it to superficial but then there's then there's a report that came out no he had an entry and exit wound it just doesn't make sense i don't know that i've ever heard like especially on a shooting case a helicopter being dispatched before law enforcement was ever even dispatch i mean because number one you can't get the fire department ems in there they have to stage i've been in the fire department for i was in the fire number 13 years you know any kind of shooting of anything, fire department and EMS have to stage somewhere outside of where the scene is.

Law enforcement has to come, secure the scene, and ensure that it's safe for fire department and EMS. So the fact that law enforcement wasn't even dispatched until like 15 minutes after the fact, then they had to get there, establish whether a scene was secure or not. Then EMS and fire department could come in. It doesn't make sense that from what we understand, the helicopter was already on its way. And someone got that on the roll. Yeah, and there was one person that was able to investigate or like ask him questions as he was going into the helicopter. Yeah, some law enforcement person.

Yeah, he did get to ask him questions. Well, they discussed something. Yeah, they discuss something. But do you not feel like that's fishy? Yeah, the whole thing's fishy. It is. It's completely crazy. Who sees that or who does that or, you know, I don't know.

So I'm not saying that. Well, look, when you have that much power, listen, number one, when you got that much power and influence in a small county, And not just that county, multiple counties, you're going to have a lot of good old buddy friends. Yeah. In every part of it, captains, lieutenants, sergeants, I mean, we don't know how corrupt that is. And, you know, on the other case we're talking about, which we're really invested in right now, more so than Murdox because we're actually, you know, kind of on the ground level. Yeah. this we're reporting on but or talking about and discussing our thoughts on this but but you know

corruption is a is a is a big thing and we're not saying anyone is corrupt but obviously they're like I said before there's not one corrupt person there's always you can't just have Alec is corrupt oh Alex's only one corrupt no that's not true and I and I think the corruption goes deep and I think it goes deep and usually corruption you know you can't have corruption like that unless you have people close to you that are also probably corrupt, and then it kind of spreads like a web of deceit. A wildfire. And it could go deep.

I mean, it could go to, I mean, we don't know how far. We don't know what levels. I've even read it goes to D.C. The corruption. Who knows? I mean, it could go at least, you know, for at the least judges and prosecutors and so on and so forth. I mean, and who knows? I mean, yes, Paul was indicted on the boat thing, but, you know, a lot of people believe

there's no way in hell he's even going to get anything for this. And he probably, you know, if we look at it, would he have, would anything have happened to Paul had he went to trial? Probably not. I mean, I don't know. He would have probably got a sweet boy deal, you know, if anything. Because, you know, they didn't really have proof that he was drunk besides people that were going to testify. But I never got to that. And testifying someone's drunk is tough because, you know, I mean, you are not a breathlizer.

You know, breathlizers and stuff like that are very. important. Yeah, and unfortunately, they didn't do that that night. That's why if you, you know, say you're an accident, even a, even a fender bender, right? And someone got hurt, right? Not killed, hurt. And the law enforcement thinks that you were drunk or you have had, you had been drinking. And you refuse a breathalyzer.

Well, you're going to jail, number one, immediately. Right. But also, before you go to jail, you're going to get your blood drawn to see exactly what your alcohol level was. I mean, they're not just going to be like, all right, see you, peace out. Well, we'll just, well, I will, don't worry. about it. We'll discuss this later. And then three years later he's indicted. But yet they

know there's no evidence on him because he didn't have a breathlis or he didn't have blood drawl from what we understand. It really wasn't even arrested, I don't think. No, I mean not. Pretty much. I mean, it was just like a special thing. Yeah. He got to get his picture done and not even go to jail. Yeah.

Yeah, it's look, I mean, there's, in my mind, I believe there's corruption. I believe this This whole thing is corrupt. And it just keeps getting crazier. The plot keeps thickening.

It does. And thinking about the boat accident, you know, there's people out there saying, well, he might not have been driving. I think at times, somebody else was trying to take the steering wheel

because he was acting freaking crazy before he hit the bridge. Like, if you read those kids, like, what are they called depositions or whatever? Depositions. Depositions. They were like he was,

like crazy. And guys, we do have breaking news right now on this case. According to attorneys, a warrant has been issued officially for Alec Murdoch's arrests. Wow. And Murdoch will turn himself in. And what is the warrant for? So attorneys for Alec Murdoch confirmed that he

will turn himself into law enforcement on Thursday. According to Murdoch's attorney, Jim Griffin, a warrant was issued Wednesday for Murdox arrest on a charge of conspiracy to commit insurance fraud. Griffin said that Murdoch plans to voluntary turn himself in. A bond hearing is set for 4 p.m. at the Hampton County Magistrict Court.

And that is what we're getting right now. So he does have an arrest warrant. He's going to turn himself in on Thursday. And then a bond hearing will be set for 4 p.m. that day. So he will be right back out. Yeah. So this is arrest a warrant for his attempted suicide. Well, no, it's for insurance fraud.

Yeah, insert. A little, little. Insert. God, why can't say that? Insurance fraud. Yeah. It's not for anything else. No.

No, but, you know, you know, you know, they're going to have them in there now. And we're going to see, you know, between the Eddie Smith guy and his shooter and him, hopefully law enforcement is going to do their job and make one of them break about something. If either of them have something to do with their either murders, you know, there should be, we should get some answers pretty soon, I would think. I'm just, you know, there's been a ton of stuff coming out about this. I'm just waiting for the news to break that he's arrested for murder or conspiracy or whatever.

I mean, I'm not saying he will be. Now, is it a chance that, like, there's a guy out there or two people out there right now? They're like, man, this is, this could not go better for us. Like, the ones that killed Paul and Maggie, right? Right. If it wasn't, yeah. Like, yeah, just keep doing this, Alec, because, I mean, you're really making yourself look like a more. Yeah, you're really helping our case. Like, they're never going to get to us.

they're looking at you now. Yeah, because honestly, I mean, think about it. Yeah. We've not heard one thing about any suspects about anybody that has to do with Paul and Maggie's death or murders. All eyes are on Alex. All eyes have always been on him. But what if that's another plot? What if that's another twist?

What? What's the twist? Maybe he's taking the blame and putting all the pressure on him to hide whoever else is out there. I mean, who knows? maybe it's another twist. But we've never once heard about another suspect. I mean, we've never heard about anybody they've looked at. Oh, but by the way, I did want to say this.

His attorney actually came out today and said that he is, he himself is investigating a possible suspect in the Paul and Maggie murder. Yeah, he did. Is that the Jim guy? I think it's Jim Griffin, but I'm not sure if that's the one. I'm pretty sure it's the one. But yeah, he said he himself is investigating a possible suspect in the Paul and Maggie murders, which is weird.

I mean, I don't even know what that means, but, you know, look, it would be easy to say, oh, well, we think this whole thing's out. And it might be. And it may not be. You know, I mean, really, he could have went crazy after Paul and Maggie got murdered. I don't know. Sounds less likely, especially since he just hired someone to try to kill him. I mean, that would seem like, well, if you're going to do that, then you'd probably hire

someone to kill your wife and kid. I mean, thinking about it. And then it was coming up on their, if they were actually separated, it was coming up not long, I think from now maybe. It was their year separation or maybe then. There was a lot of stuff going on. And I think Maggie was on. I think she was getting on the trail of him and misappropriation of funds. But we don't really truly know what she knew or didn't know about what was going on.

I don't know. I mean, at least for Maggie's sake, you know, Paul was. You know, he He was himself From what we hear But even still, I mean, you know No one deserves to die No one deserves to get murdered

I mean, but You know, a lot of people say I mean, he was never going to get charged And he was never, he was going to get away With everything all the time But still So was it really a low country murder Because of a previous death

Or was it a family thing That he took advantage of People thought someone would kill them Right. There was a great plot. Yeah. one of the two. But as we sit right now, Alec Murdole will be turning himself in the law enforcement tomorrow

and a... And again, the Smith guy has been arrested, let go, and re-arrested. So this guy's back in jail too. Yeah, so there will be a bond hearing set for 4 p.m. tomorrow at Hampton County Magistrate Court. I don't expect we will see

or hear too much news beyond that besides he will probably be immediately released. You know, I mean, on insurance fraud, his bond probably be set pretty low. They're not going to be able to hold him, you know, for that much money. So we're going to see. But it's, you know, they're probably not going to have a lot of time to discuss anything

with him. Obviously he's going to be lawyered up. I mean, you know. Obviously. His attorneys are going to know exactly what to do and what not to do, obviously. I mean, he's going to, you know. And so it's going to be interesting, man. It's just like you've got this, this DA slash prosecutor slash attorney.

and in all of his attorney buddies and friends and close people that is in this industry, they know how to do this stuff. So it's just going to be, regardless of whatever is truly the case and the facts, you're going to have basically an army of attorneys and prosecutors and people that, you know, regardless. They're going to, especially the people that think he has nothing to do with Paul and Maggie's death, right? So if these people really believe that, even under misappropriation of funds from a law firm is pretty crazy, especially millions of dollars. But we're going to see.

We're going to see how many people are going to be, it's going to be our attorneys against a state. And I think that's kind of what it has been this whole time. Well, it sounds like they're going to stay with him and help him, right? Because for a while, I felt like they're turning their back on him. Well, there's some that it will be. But there is this new attorney that popped up. I don't know if he's brand new.

And I don't even know who that is. I've never even heard his name before. Yeah, I don't know. He's probably hired recently, I've found a guess. but like I said we don't know how deep this goes and we're and will we ever know I don't know but this you know

I'm glad this case has got national news national headline it's not just national it's international now it's in the UK the UK sun dot UK and all that stuff's reporting it I mean there's there's news agencies in Australia reporting this I mean it's everywhere

this is like an international story now so there is a lot of pressure on this whole thing and I think it should be because, you know, if there is corruption that goes deeper, which I believe there probably is, I hope that someone finds that out. And I hope it gets brought to light.

Because I promise you, man, we know, everyone should know at this point, corruption runs very deep. I mean, look at our government right now. I mean, I don't care what freaking political affiliation you are. Our government is most corrupt right now I've ever seen, and ever in our country's history. And it's just allowing when you have a, you know, they always say, well, the leader leads, right?

But if the leader is corrupt, guess what? Everybody under him is going to be corrupt. And then so you have these local agencies and state agencies. The people that are willing to be corrupt are going to be corrupt because they feel like they have, you know, who's going to hold them accountable? I mean, our biggest leaders are corrupt. I mean, our government's corrupt. Our everything. So you're going to start seeing this more and more.

And I think I'll be very curious to see what happens with this. I don't think it's going to be just, I don't know, I expect to see something. My expectation is if I have to guess how this is going to play out, this is just a guess. I believe I'm going to see a headline with Alec Murdoch charged with the murders of Paul and Maggie. That's just me. Whether it be him personally did it or... Hired somebody to do it. Yeah, but one of the guns was theirs.

Yeah. And he is a hunter. They go hunting all the time. I mean, he knows how to shoot a gun. It's not like he's accustomed, you know, a strange to that gun. I mean, they went hunting all the time. And I'm kind of, well, I don't know what I am, but I just hate to speculate. But I would just doubt that he would do that.

I know. I just hate to speculate. I don't think that makes you kill. No, but if you're high, maybe meth. Yeah, but if you're high as shit, who knows? I don't know. I don't know. And that dude that got arrested, I think he was a meth.

dealer, right? Well, he is, yeah. But Alec could have been on meth. Yeah, maybe he's on meth and not just opioids. Well, either way, if Alec had anything to do with his murders, they're going to, trust me, they're going to use the drug thing as a, like, almost insanity plea or something. They would do something like that. Like you said, he's not dumb. He's smart.

He's building something. Yeah, hopefully. I don't know. Well, I'm not saying hopefully, but some people are like, this guy is a lawyer and he's so dumb. Like, how could he ever be a lawyer? I don't think he's dumb, though. He's not been arrested. I mean, he's about to be arrested on some minor ones.

Yeah, but I guess people are not seeing the smart side of him why he's doing the things he's doing. And we probably will, we may find out. We may never. If no one ever gets charged of this, we might see exactly how smart he was. I don't know. That's what's crazy about this. Yeah. It's going to, the story will definitely get bigger.

You know, we wanted to come on and talk about that. But right now, Alec Murdoch has an arrest warrant issued for him. He will be turning himself in tomorrow, September the 16th, 2021. And then I'm sure he has a bond hearing at 4 p.m. so I'm sure we will probably see him getting bonded out shortly after. But that's all we have for tonight, guys. Tomorrow night we are going to be talking about the Mark Hayes case, and we're going to have a special guest on tomorrow night,

which was in law enforcement during the time and was actually a running for sheriff. So we're going to have him on tomorrow. We're going to discuss some crazy new details on that case. You guys want to hear it. This case is very close to being solved. So be sure you tune in tomorrow Thursday night, probably around 7.30 p.m. But until then, guys, have a great night.